1 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:20:47pm

Um, did Willard (R)money actually show up at a press conference with Donald Chump to accept his endorsement? Was he actually on tv with the king of birthers? Seriously?

I think it's time to consider that Willard isn't terribly bright.

2 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:24:11pm

I failed at giving blood. I'm a failure. Iron.

One of my daughter's buddies was there, and she failed because her veins are too small.

I told her on Facebook we can be fail buddies.

Hopefully it makes her feel better; she was pretty bummed out.

My daughter is not giving blood because she has a competition tomorrow that will involved throwing sabers and rifles ten-fifteen feet in the air.

3 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:27:17pm

re: #2 EmmmieG

I'm an O- with high Iron Count. They like when I come in.

4 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:32:34pm

romney's qualifications for president

1. white guy

2. wears a suit

3. something about the Free Markup

4. profit!

5 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:34:06pm

re: #2 EmmmieG

I failed at giving blood. I'm a failure. Iron.

One of my daughter's buddies was there, and she failed because her veins are too small.

I told her on Facebook we can be fail buddies.

Hopefully it makes her feel better; she was pretty bummed out.

My daughter is not giving blood because she has a competition tomorrow that will involved throwing sabers and rifles ten-fifteen feet in the air.

I can't give blood cause I lived in Europe in the 80's and might drop dead of Mad Cow disease at any moment.

6 Sionainn  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:34:09pm

re: #2 EmmmieG

I failed at giving blood. I'm a failure. Iron.

One of my daughter's buddies was there, and she failed because her veins are too small.

I told her on Facebook we can be fail buddies.

Hopefully it makes her feel better; she was pretty bummed out.

My daughter is not giving blood because she has a competition tomorrow that will involved throwing sabers and rifles ten-fifteen feet in the air.

My husband is 0- and gets called all the time. The past three times he has gone in, they haven't been able to get any blood out of him.

7 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:37:36pm

re: #2 EmmmieG

They will not take mine because I took ant-malaria drugs prior to going over seas. Best I can do is donate for research purposes.

8 TedStriker  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:39:02pm

re: #6 Sionainn

My husband is 0- and gets called all the time. The past three times he has gone in, they haven't been able to get any blood out of him.

Because you got to him first, right?

///

9 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:39:43pm

re: #1 moderatelyradicalliberal

I think it's time to consider that Willard isn't terribly bright.

A lot of us have been considering that for a very long time.

10 Sionainn  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:40:17pm

re: #8 talon_262

Because you got to him first, right?

///

LOL. They actually tried to tell him that it was because the muscles in his arms weren't that strong...he's a rock climber.

11 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:45:30pm

This must be going viral. I just saw it via FB a short while ago before being posted here.

12 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:46:33pm

Ads are now inserted between posts???

13 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:49:24pm

re: #5 rwdflynavy

I can't give blood cause I lived in Europe in the 80's and might drop dead of Mad Cow disease at any moment.

My daughter lived in the UK 10 years ago so she is banned from giving blood.

14 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:51:18pm

Butthurt Report Form

Handy for the next Lizard who has a case of Persecution Complex (PC).

15 jamesfirecat  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:58:48pm

OT, but is it just me or has DF not posted anything in three days? That's really weird... I hope nothing happened to him...

16 nines09  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:00:46pm

At .25 seconds is the screamer.

17 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:03:54pm

re: #12 Naso Tang

Ads are now inserted between posts???

Eh, just scroll./

Srsly, I never notice ads, unless they interfere with control of the page itself.

18 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:13:31pm

Ugh, we could be getting close.
Leon Panetta 'believes Israel could attack Iran in the spring'

US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta believes there is a "strong possibility" that Israel will strike Iran's nuclear installations this spring, it was reported today.

19 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:14:21pm

re: #15 jamesfirecat

OT, but is it just me or has DF not posted anything in three days? That's really weird... I hope nothing happened to him...

He might just be taking a break or busy with other stuff.

20 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:14:25pm

re: #18 Killgore Trout

Well, there goes the element of surprise.
/

21 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:15:01pm

re: #20 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, there goes the element of surprise.
/

Nobody excpects the....Boom!

22 prairiefire  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:15:05pm

re: #5 rwdflynavy

I can't give blood cause I lived in Europe in the 80's and might drop dead of Mad Cow disease at any moment.

Me, too! I haven't started walking in circles, yet.

23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:15:28pm

re: #21 Killgore Trout

Big bada boom.

24 prairiefire  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:15:48pm

re: #15 jamesfirecat

OT, but is it just me or has DF not posted anything in three days? That's really weird... I hope nothing happened to him...

I think he's been around.

25 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:18:31pm

re: #23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Big bada boom.

It's really going to be a dangerous deal and there's sure to be a huge shit storm over this. I hope they get it right.

26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:19:59pm

Gingrich hired ACORN to collect signatures in VA.

Virginia requires candidates to collect 10,000 signatures, with at least 400 from each of the congressional districts.

Gingrich’s campaign told state officials it had submitted 11,050 signatures. But a Richmond area firm hired to collect them turned in 1,500 signatures that appeared to be signed by the same person.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:21:23pm

re: #25 Killgore Trout

The Middle East might get dangerous?

28 TedStriker  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:22:31pm

re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gingrich hired ACORN to collect signatures in VA.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Shit like this couldn't happen to a nicer fuckhead.

29 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:23:53pm

re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The Middle East might get dangerous?

Now that I think about it maybe it won't be that huge. They took out that Syrian reactor a few years ago and nobody even remembers. They took out Saddam's reactor and it's a minor footnote in history. Maybe nobody will mind.

30 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:32:29pm

re: #23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mul-teee-pass? /Leeloo

31 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:32:50pm

re: #29 Killgore Trout

An addition though:

This would actually help the regime in Tehran. The dissidents would be framed as siding with Israel.

Considering conditions in Iran, I still say that we should let the government inevitably splinter.

32 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:36:39pm

re: #30 lawhawk

Mul-teee-pass? /Leeloo

hee ^_^

33 Kragar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:37:32pm

Wait one fucking minute!

Are you trying to imply Santorum didn't say "I'm crazy and I'm right", because thats the only honest believable thing I've ever heard him say.

34 Petero1818  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:39:13pm

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Now that I think about it maybe it won't be that huge. They took out that Syrian reactor a few years ago and nobody even remembers. They took out Saddam's reactor and it's a minor footnote in history. Maybe nobody will mind.

Iran is a very different situation. Iran has taken great steps to divide its nuke infrastructure in a series of different places many of which are deep underground in reinforced bunkers. Most israeli watchers have indicated that they are not even certain that they know where all the facilities are and that an attack that successfully destroyed all their targets might not even be sufficient to stop or delay the program sufficiently.
My feeling is that what is really going on here is that the US is building support around the world for tougher and continued sanctions and is using the threat of a possible Israeli attack to bring the Russians and Chinese on side.
Most inside Israel do not believe this would be a good idea.

35 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:40:34pm

The kind of information released by Leon Panetta today isn't done for mere informational purposes. It was clearly intended to add more pressure to the Iranian in current and future talks. This was calculated statement which may or may not prove to come to fruition. The intent is to add pressure.

36 austin_blue  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:42:11pm

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Now that I think about it maybe it won't be that huge. They took out that Syrian reactor a few years ago and nobody even remembers. They took out Saddam's reactor and it's a minor footnote in history. Maybe nobody will mind.

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Now that I think about it maybe it won't be that huge. They took out that Syrian reactor a few years ago and nobody even remembers. They took out Saddam's reactor and it's a minor footnote in history. Maybe nobody will mind.

Neither had been fueled, though. And those were just reactors. You start ejecting 80% pure into the atmosphere and, depending on winds, you could kill a whole shitpot of people. Including Russians, Afghanis, &c. Poisoning oil fields is not in our best interest. Maybe we should just sell Isreal Florida and get them out of that hell hole.

37 Petero1818  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:44:11pm

re: #36 austin_blue

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Neither had been fueled, though. And those were just reactors. You start ejecting 80% pure into the atmosphere and, depending on winds, you could kill a whole shitpot of people. Including Russians, Afghanis, &c. Poisoning oil fields is not in our best interest. Maybe we should just sell Isreal Florida and get them out of that hell hole.

We already own Florida. Thanks though.///

38 jamesfirecat  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:48:32pm

re: #36 austin_blue

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Neither had been fueled, though. And those were just reactors. You start ejecting 80% pure into the atmosphere and, depending on winds, you could kill a whole shitpot of people. Including Russians, Afghanis, &c. Poisoning oil fields is not in our best interest. Maybe we should just sell Isreal Florida and get them out of that hell hole.

////You can tell that god has a sense of humor because he lead the Jews to the one spot in the Middle East with no oil.

39 freetoken  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:49:15pm

re: #36 austin_blue

Maybe we should just sell Isreal Florida and get them out of that hell hole.

Florida? You mean, that state that will be greatly under water in future centuries as sea level rises? That Florida?

40 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:49:58pm

re: #5 rwdflynavy

I can't give blood cause I lived in Europe in the 80's and might drop dead of Mad Cow disease at any moment.

Same here, wife and three of the kids. Our meat at the Vicenza commissary
came from England via Germany.

41 jamesfirecat  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:50:35pm

re: #39 freetoken

Florida? You mean, that state that will be greatly under water in future centuries as sea level rises? That Florida?

///Well then they can build an ark to deal with it, wouldn't be the first time....

42 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:52:15pm

re: #39 freetoken

Florida? You mean, that state that will be greatly under water in future centuries as sea level rises? That Florida?

How about Idaho, then?

43 austin_blue  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:53:13pm

re: #37 Petero1818

We already own Florida. Thanks though.///

Come on over! The weather's fine! Nice beaches! And you won't be surrounded by people who want to see you choke on your own blood!

(Well, except for Georgia, Alabama, the Panhandle and Ocala...)

No, really! Welcome to America!

44 Stanghazi  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:56:09pm

Oh boy

45 austin_blue  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:56:15pm

re: #39 freetoken

Florida? You mean, that state that will be greatly under water in future centuries as sea level rises? That Florida?

Meh, plenty of time to deal with that.

46 Stanghazi  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:57:51pm

re: #45 austin_blue

Meh, plenty of time to deal with that.

The concerned peeps will be long gone.

47 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:04:35pm

This is one way Obama is Fundraising:

Joe Biden Can Koozie

If I can get that with one of Biden more Gaffe-y quotes, I'll buy it.

48 jaunte  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:06:50pm

Lake Vostok, Antartica: Russian scientists have been radio silent for 5 days

Because the lake is under kilometres of frozen ice, it has been untouched by todays technology and hence, the hands of man. The contents of this secret under-the-ice lake, have not seen the light of day for more than 20 million years. Because of this long period of pure isolation, it is believed that the water inside Lake Vostok could contain new, never-before-seen lifeforms, and unique geochemical processes.

...
Also currently in Antarctica: President of Iceland, Ólafur Ragnar Grímsson, Al Gore, director James Cameron, abillionaires Richard Branson and Ted Turner, and lots of scientists.

49 jamesfirecat  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:07:24pm

re: #47 ProLifeLiberal

This is one way Obama is Fundraising:

Let me guess, this is your post modern way of saying he isn't fundraising?

50 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:07:44pm

re: #47 ProLifeLiberal

Something screwed up when I tried to put a link there.

51 freetoken  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:07:55pm

Shockingly, the head of the IN state House expresses some sense:

Creationism bill may not get Indiana House vote

A Senate-approved plan allowing public schools to teach creationism probably will not be voted on by the Republican-controlled House.

House Speaker Brian Bosma, R-Indianapolis, said he has not made a final determination on whether Senate Bill 89 will get a hearing and vote, but said he believes the General Assembly should not mandate what's taught in science classrooms.

"Delving into an issue that the United States Supreme Court has, on at least on one occasion, said is not compliant with the Constitution may be a side issue and someplace we don't need to go," Bosma said. "Parents, families have a choice on where their children go to school; it's an increasing choice now due to the legislation we passed last year."

[...]

52 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:08:41pm

Try it again:

Joe Biden Can Koozie

Worked! If they can get one with one of Biden's Gaffe-y quotes, I'll buy it.

53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:09:01pm

re: #47 ProLifeLiberal

This is one way Obama is Fundraising:

He's got a freakin' billion dollars rolling around in the trunk of his car. I think he'll be okay.

54 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:10:36pm

re: #51 freetoken

Bosma said. "Parents, families have a choice on where their children go to school; it's an increasing choice now due to the legislation we passed last year."

We need to fix that. We don't need institutions undermining the US, and I see these Theocratic Evangelicals doing just that.

We need Scandinavian/German Type controls on schooling.

55 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:11:21pm

re: #51 freetoken

"it's an increasing choice now due to the legislation we passed last year."

Did they pass some voucher bullshit?

56 Coracle  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:12:46pm

re: #48 jaunte

Lake Vostok, Antartica: Russian scientists have been radio silent for 5 days

"We found something..."

57 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:13:24pm

re: #56 Coracle

"We found something..."

A lake of vodka...

//

58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:13:25pm

re: #52 ProLifeLiberal

Try it again:

Joe Biden Can Koozie

For my job, I go into homes. President Obama has some serious merchandise in 90% of the African American people's houses that I go to. This morning, there was a lovely "Obama praying" etched mirror.

I don't know who gets the money for this... but someone's making an absolute shitload of money on Obama merchandise.

59 freetoken  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:13:44pm

Don McLeroy rewriting history:

McLeroy: Texas' evolution teaching meets science standards
Don McLeroy, Special Contributor

The big story concerning the release of the Fordham Institute's "State of the State Science Standards 2012" is not the overall grade that Texas received but that the controversial high school evolution standards were described as "exemplary."

[...]

However, concerning the high school biology standards that were the focus of the controversy three years ago, the report states: "There are no concessions to ‘controversies' or ‘alternative theories.' In fact, the high school biology course is exemplary in its choice and presentation of topics, including its thorough consideration of biological evolution."

Back in 2009, the controversy over evolution focused only on the high school course. The State Board of Education did not change, delete or add any evolution standards in the earlier grades. Those standards were adopted exactly as the review committees had written them. If they are weak, then all involved, including the board, share responsibility.

Interestingly, in the section where the conservatives did take an active role and added the evolution-challenging amendments, Fordham describes the standards as exemplary. It states, "the standards handle the subject straightforwardly."

Thus, their report vindicates the board's religious conservatives. While most of the credit for the standards is thanks to the review committees that wrote the majority of the section, the point here is that the board amendments added rigor to the standards.

[...]

Um, no Don, the report does not do that.

What McLeroy ignores is that he and the other religious conservatives were checkmated by the big uproar, and thus they weren't able to do all that they wished.

Sigh...

60 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:15:02pm

re: #34 Petero1818

My feeling is that what is really going on here is that the US is building support around the world for tougher and continued sanctions and is using the threat of a possible Israeli attack to bring the Russians and Chinese on side.

That's a very strong possibility. Pannetta is not speaking off the cuff or unintentionally leaking something. His statement serves a purpose, whatever that may be.

61 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:17:21pm

re: #48 jaunte

Lake Vostok, Antartica: Russian scientists have been radio silent for 5 days

...
Also currently in Antarctica: President of Iceland, Ólafur Ragnar Grímsson, Al Gore, and lots of scientists, plus director James Cameron, and billionaires Richard Branson and Ted Turner.

Any reporters of a sniper in a helicopter firing at a dog?

//

62 austin_blue  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:18:24pm

re: #59 freetoken

Don McLeroy rewriting history:

McLeroy: Texas' evolution teaching meets science standards
Don McLeroy, Special Contributor

Um, no Don, the report does not do that.

What McLeroy ignores is that he and the other religious conservatives were checkmated by the big uproar, and thus they weren't able to do all that they wished.

Sigh...

Ah, the Devout Dentist speaks out. Wonder what he thinks about MRSA. Did God tweak it so it couldn't be touched by whole classes of antibiotics?

Maybe God is just testing our faith by killing us.....

63 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:18:25pm

re: #58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

For my job, I go into homes.

You should really start asking permission 1st!

64 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:18:55pm

re: #36 austin_blue

Neither had been fueled, though. And those were just reactors. You start ejecting 80% pure into the atmosphere and, depending on winds, you could kill a whole shitpot of people. Including Russians, Afghanis, &c. Poisoning oil fields is not in our best interest. Maybe we should just sell Isreal Florida and get them out of that hell hole.

There are ways to attack a reactor without forcing it to melt down. Hit the cooling system and force them to shut it down. Underground enrichment facilities don't really need to be completely destroyed. Just create enough of a ruckus with the access tunnels and make them spend the next 2 years trying to tunnel back in.

65 austin_blue  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:20:27pm

re: #60 Killgore Trout

That's a very strong possibility. Pannetta is not speaking off the cuff or unintentionally leaking something. His statement serves a purpose, whatever that may be.

They watered down the verbiage in the UN GA today to make it more palatable to the Russkies ("In your survival kit you will find...").

66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:20:37pm

re: #63 sattv4u2

For my job, I go into homes.

You should really start asking permission 1st!

Cat burglar.

67 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:20:48pm

re: #56 Coracle

"We found something..."

Youtube Video
68 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:21:54pm

Okaley Doakaley

SO ,, our IT dept just sent a notice that our e-mail system will be down for a while for upgrades/ updates

At the end of their e-mail notice, they say they'l (wait for it) send an e-mail that alls clear!!

69 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:22:34pm

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cat burglar.

Wouldn't it be more profitable stealing TV's, jewelery, and things like that rather than cats??

70 austin_blue  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:23:19pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

There are ways to attack a reactor without forcing it to melt down. Hit the cooling system and force them to shut it down. Underground enrichment facilities don't really need to be completely destroyed. Just create enough of a ruckus with the access tunnels and make them spend the next 2 years trying to tunnel back in.

It's a valid point. You do it and take the weight if it's a FAIL.

;-)

Not me, boyo. I want to see how really squeezing their nuts works, first.

71 freetoken  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:23:20pm

Here is something a bit close to the truth about the Fordham evaluation, also from the Austin Statesman:


'C' in science not enough for our kids

[...]

In rating Texas' science curriculum, Thomas B. Fordham Institute researchers gave it a "C." Incredibly, that bit of mediocre news was considered good. At least the science curriculum didn't suffer the blistering that the social science standards got when Fordham researchers evaluated them last year or repeat the "F" science standards got in 2005.

Fordham is a Washington, D.C., think tank dedicated to raising the country's educational standards. The think tank leans conservative but prides itself on its independence. Their reports are well-written, well-regarded and recommended reading for business recruiters and policy wonks alike.

Reading through the evaluation of Texas science curriculum standards is a mini-education all its own.

Institute evaluators opened with a compliment: "Texas has produced a set of science standards with areas of strength — including a particularly well-done sequence for earth and space science ... "

That was the molasses. Then came the medicine: " ... but also with weaknesses that cannot be overlooked. These include a tendency across nearly all disciplines to pay lip service to critical content with vague statements, and, somewhat less often, the presence of material that's well below grade level."

On the other hand, Fordham evaluators heaped praised on the state's approach to climate change. "To its credit, Texas also dispassionately and unapologetically introduces students to global warming, a political hot potato in many places."

On the equally polarizing question of evolution, the raters were troubled that Texas students from kindergarten through fifth grade get minimal exposure to evolution. "The middle school standards are marginally better but still problematic. For example, seventh-graders should learn that:

" ‘Populations and species demonstrate variation and inherit many of their unique traits through gradual processes over many generations.' Unfortunately, this is simply wrong. Traits are inherited directly at each generation; there's nothing gradual about it. Students are then asked to explain variation within a population or species by examining external features that enhance survival. Such examinations will yield no explanation of variation."

You might recall that the science standards were the subject of intense debate in 2009 as members of the State Board of Education made the topic a landing zone in the culture wars.

Don McLeroy, then chairman of the 15-member panel, and the ultra-conservatives he led pushed standards that critics said were tantamount to teaching creationism.

"Somebody's got to stand up to experts," McLeroy said then. Revisions were handled hurriedly. They were often hand-written and shoved under board members' doors with little time for reflection. Academic experts in the subject areas appointed by the board were all too often ignored.

After all the sound and the fury, not much changed in the curriculum standards. The disputed language was not adopted. [IOW, McLeroy failed to accomplish what he wanted, though as seen in the previous post he claims credit for doing something.]

"The state's current high school biology standards handle the subject straightforwardly," the institute evaluators wrote. "There are no concessions to ‘controversies' or ‘alternative theories.' In fact, the high school biology course is exemplary in its choice and presentation of topics, including its thorough consideration of biological evolution." Nonetheless, the lack of preparation before high school makes it "hard to see how Texas students will be able to handle this course," the evaluators wrote. [...]

72 Kragar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:23:30pm

re: #48 jaunte

Lake Vostok, Antartica: Russian scientists have been radio silent for 5 days

...
Also currently in Antarctica: President of Iceland, Ólafur Ragnar Grímsson, Al Gore, director James Cameron, abillionaires Richard Branson and Ted Turner, and lots of scientists.

Hastur, Cthulhu, other assorted Great Old Ones...

73 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:24:34pm

Puns like this should be a crime.

74 austin_blue  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:24:53pm

re: #68 sattv4u2

Okaley Doakaley

SO ,, our IT dept just sent a notice that our e-mail system will be down for a while for upgrades/ updates

At the end of their e-mail notice, they say they'l (wait for it) send an e-mail that alls clear!!

But...but...won't the mail server be back up by then?

75 austin_blue  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:26:26pm

re: #71 freetoken

Here is something a bit close to the truth about the Fordham evaluation, also from the Austin Statesman:

'C' in science not enough for our kids

Sometimes our local Fishwrap actually researches a story. Yea!

76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:27:35pm

re: #69 sattv4u2

Wouldn't it be more profitable stealing TV's, jewelery, and things like that rather than cats??

Obama swag. I've got tons of it!

77 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:27:55pm

Is that story about Russian Scientists and Lake Vostok for real? It isn't being covered very much.

78 austin_blue  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:29:52pm

re: #71 freetoken

Here is something a bit close to the truth about the Fordham evaluation, also from the Austin Statesman:

'C' in science not enough for our kids

"Somebody's got to stand up to experts," McLeroy said then.

I'm sorry, but that is just a classical creationist line.

So many maroons, such a big state.

79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:34:11pm

re: #60 Killgore Trout

That's a very strong possibility. Pannetta is not speaking off the cuff or unintentionally leaking something. His statement serves a purpose, whatever that may be.

Other than Biden... these guys don't just say things.

80 Kragar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:35:08pm

re: #77 ProLifeLiberal

Is that story about Russian Scientists and Lake Vostok for real? It isn't being covered very much.

Too sciencey. Needs to have a drunk heiress involved to make the news.

81 freetoken  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:36:28pm

re: #78 austin_blue

So many maroons, such a big state.

Everything's bigger in Texas.

82 freetoken  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:37:25pm

In case anyone is interested, here is the Fordham commentary on their just released study:

The sorry state of state science standards

83 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:37:29pm

Off to Finland for a chilly weekend.

BBL

84 kirkspencer  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:38:04pm

re: #77 ProLifeLiberal

Is that story about Russian Scientists and Lake Vostok for real? It isn't being covered very much.

Yes, it's real. As Kragar says, it's too sciencey. Or rather it has been. The recent radio silence (yes, real) on top of the various Lake Vostok Conspiracy stuff (just use google on those three words) means that

a) well known "legit" news organizations are going to be extremely cautious;
b) fringe news organizations are going nuts.

given FoxNews is covering this rather intensely... I guess I'll let you draw your own conclusions.

85 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:39:55pm

re: #84 kirkspencer

Ah, I see.

86 freetoken  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:43:25pm

My own personal view is that the Fordham study itself is flawed, as it carries forward uncritically a very serious flaw behind the whole approach of state "standards" for specific subjects.

That is, bright, curious, and world changing children are not the product of a "standards" process. They just aren't.

Indeed, I am highly skeptical of the current push on STEM and related educational standards - I believe the push is a compensation mechanism by those who feel insecure for one reason or another.

All children are born curious about the world around them. Just let each one find their own path. Few will take the path to become researchers, mainly because it is long and not as well rewarding ($) as many other professions. Others may have the interest but the opportunity escaped them due to family problems.

For whatever reason, only a small slice of any population will make a significant contribution to knowledge about the universe around us, and maybe that is the only way our society can function.

87 Kragar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:45:16pm

re: #84 kirkspencer

Yes, it's real. As Kragar says, it's too sciencey. Or rather it has been. The recent radio silence (yes, real) on top of the various Lake Vostok Conspiracy stuff (just use google on those three words) means that

a) well known "legit" news organizations are going to be extremely cautious;
b) fringe news organizations are going nuts.

given FoxNews is covering this rather intensely... I guess I'll let you draw your own conclusions.

Did the Russians never read "Phantoms"?
/

88 austin_blue  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:46:01pm

re: #86 freetoken

My own personal view is that the Fordham study itself is flawed, as it carries forward uncritically a very serious flaw behind the whole approach of state "standards" for specific subjects.

That is, bright, curious, and world changing children are not the product of a "standards" process. They just aren't.

Indeed, I am highly skeptical of the current push on STEM and related educational standards - I believe the push is a compensation mechanism by those who feel insecure for one reason or another.

All children are born curious about the world around them. Just let each one find their own path. Few will take the path to become researchers, mainly because it is long and not as well rewarding ($) as many other professions. Others may have the interest but the opportunity escaped them due to family problems.

For whatever reason, only a small slice of any population will make a significant contribution to knowledge about the universe around us, and maybe that is the only way our society can function.

STEM

Standardized Testing Evaluation Methods?

89 Olsonist  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:46:08pm

My dog Newt has totally got this Nevada situation covered. He's going to dump Callista, who it turns out has an incurable late stage form of prostate cancer, and marry a teenage Mormon girl. Mark my words, Newt will win Nevada in a walk.

Newt. Because in your heart you know he's right.

90 freetoken  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:46:26pm

re: #88 austin_blue

Science, Technology, Engineering, Mathematics.

91 austin_blue  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:48:01pm

re: #90 freetoken

Science, Technology, Engineering, Mathematics.

Ah, thanks.

92 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:50:16pm

re: #73 ProLifeLiberal

Puns like this should be a crime.

What about this pun?

[Link: imgur.com...]

93 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:51:12pm

re: #92 EmmmieG

That might deserve a Death Sentence.

///

94 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:01:00pm

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons ((I'm seriously thinking of getting an efficiency/ studio apt real close to work ,, spending my work nights there and my off days/ nights at home) ((it's almost not worth driving home just to catch a few hours zzzs and turning right back)))

95 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:04:01pm

re: #1 moderatelyradicalliberal

Um, did Willard (R)money actually show up at a press conference with Donald Chump to accept his endorsement? Was he actually on tv with the king of birthers? Seriously?

I think it's time to consider that Willard isn't terribly bright.

of course not, he's an idiot who had everything handed to him

He's a prettier W. Bush, he's another guy from a powerful family who never had to work, never had to be intellectually challenged

96 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:05:07pm

re: #92 EmmmieG

What about this pun?

[Link: imgur.com...]

The meta-joke is that all the music pun comments on the "Baroque Obama" picture reference mostly Classical and Romantic-era composers.

not sure if ignorant or just trolling...

97 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:06:03pm

re: #96 negativ

The meta-joke is that all the music pun comments on the "Baroque Obama" picture reference mostly Classical and Romantic-era composers.

not sure if ignorant or just trolling...

Probably just using names of classical/Romantic composers because that's what people know.

98 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:07:05pm

re: #58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

For my job, I go into homes. President Obama has some serious merchandise in 90% of the African American people's houses that I go to. This morning, there was a lovely "Obama praying" etched mirror.

I don't know who gets the money for this... but someone's making an absolute shitload of money on Obama merchandise.

much like someone was making an absolute shitload on 9/11 hyperpatriotism gear in the wake of 9/11

This is America, we merchandise shit

99 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:07:30pm

re: #94 sattv4u2

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons ((I'm seriously thinking of getting an efficiency/ studio apt real close to work ,, spending my work nights there and my off days/ nights at home) ((it's almost not worth driving home just to catch a few hours zzzs and turning right back)))

I would be so totally burned out if I had to work your hours.

100 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:08:42pm

any other of the lizard engineering community around?

bran' new engineer war story hot offa the presses...

101 steve_davis  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:09:54pm

re: #1 moderatelyradicalliberal

Um, did Willard (R)money actually show up at a press conference with Donald Chump to accept his endorsement? Was he actually on tv with the king of birthers? Seriously?

I think it's time to consider that Willard isn't terribly bright.

Did you see Mitt's wife, standing off to the side, wondering who Mitt would have to **** in order to have time stop and for the Time Rangers to recreate the day so that Newt could be the one getting the endorsement?

102 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:11:35pm

re: #100 engineer dog

any other of the lizard engineering community around?

bran' new engineer war story hot offa the presses...

Does it involve a guillotine or being chained at the bottom of the sea?

103 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:11:47pm

re: #58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

For my job, I go into homes. President Obama has some serious merchandise in 90% of the African American people's houses that I go to. This morning, there was a lovely "Obama praying" etched mirror.

I don't know who gets the money for this... but someone's making an absolute shitload of money on Obama merchandise.

Did you ever see any of this Susan G. Komen shit in any people's houses?

104 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:13:22pm

re: #102 Gus 802

Does it involve a guillotine or being chained at the bottom of the sea?

those are all in chapter 4

the humor in my story is entirely of the nerdaceous variety

105 Olsonist  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:13:31pm

re: #100 engineer dog

EECS from UC Berkeley.

106 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:13:34pm

re: #98 WindUpBird

much like someone was making an absolute shitload on 9/11 hyperpatriotism gear in the wake of 9/11

This is America, we merchandise shit

Freedom grease and purple mountain double chocolateaid.

//

107 steve_davis  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:14:37pm

re: #2 EmmmieG

I failed at giving blood. I'm a failure. Iron.

One of my daughter's buddies was there, and she failed because her veins are too small.

I told her on Facebook we can be fail buddies.

Hopefully it makes her feel better; she was pretty bummed out.

My daughter is not giving blood because she has a competition tomorrow that will involved throwing sabers and rifles ten-fifteen feet in the air.

Don't feel bad. I've given blood once in my life and spent half-an-hour having EMS personnel trying to keep me from going into shock. Something about being 6 feet tall and weighing 120 pounds at the time. If a vampire ever got hold of me, he'd probably take me home and spend six months trying to fatten me up and then marry me off. He'd go from Tortured Undead Night Walker to Concerned Jewish Matchmaker, completely losing the whole plot thread of his existence.

108 danhenry1  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:16:46pm

is anyone watching donald with greta. looks like she is choking on this, Almost like Ann Romney telling him to 'get away from me', but he likes Hillary. Thank you Donald.

109 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:17:41pm

I just realized that I own a pair of pink pajamas and some pink underwear, and some pink bedding. But I totally did not buy it to Cure Cancer!

110 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:18:27pm

re: #98 WindUpBird

much like someone was making an absolute shitload on 9/11 hyperpatriotism gear in the wake of 9/11

This is America, we merchandise shit

[Link: www.infowarsshop.com...]

Don't miss out on the $60 "coconut shell charcoal"-filtered shower head.

111 prairiefire  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:18:44pm

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Now that I think about it maybe it won't be that huge. They took out that Syrian reactor a few years ago and nobody even remembers. They took out Saddam's reactor and it's a minor footnote in history. Maybe nobody will mind.

I think the power of the World Market is stronger. Instability and everybody gets pissed at the higher prices. It gums up the works.

112 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:19:20pm

re: #107 steve_davis

Don't feel bad. I've given blood once in my life and spent half-an-hour having EMS personnel trying to keep me from going into shock. Something about being 6 feet tall and weighing 120 pounds at the time. If a vampire ever got hold of me, he'd probably take me home and spend six months trying to fatten me up and then marry me off. He'd go from Tortured Undead Night Walker to Concerned Jewish Matchmaker, completely losing the whole plot thread of his existence.

I have no problems whatsoever if I can get past the iron test. That they have tracked, I have given, so far, 1 gallon, 2 quarts, and a pint. I'm aiming at 2 gallons before the end of 2012.

113 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:19:45pm

re: #109 Alouette

I just realized that I own a pair of pink pajamas and some pink underwear, and some pink bedding. But I totally did not buy it to Cure Cancer!

I own pink pajamas, too, but I'm pretty sure that Komen did not get a slice.

114 allegro  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:19:58pm

re: #109 Alouette

I just realized that I own a pair of pink pajamas and some pink underwear, and some pink bedding. But I totally did not buy it to Cure Cancer!

I think pale pink is quite lovely but that shit is right outa the Pepto Bismal bottle. Nauseating pink.

115 allegro  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:20:36pm

re: #114 allegro

I think pale pink is quite lovely but that shit is right outa the Pepto Bismal bottle. Nauseating pink.

Oops, I meant the Koman stuff not your pink PJs and undies.

116 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:20:40pm

re: #89 Olsonist

My dog Newt has totally got this Nevada situation covered. He's going to dump Callista, who it turns out has an incurable late stage form of prostate cancer, and marry a teenage Mormon girl. Mark my words, Newt will win Nevada in a walk.

Newt. Because in your heart you know he's right.

I would like to see him find a nice Muslim woman and then convert and head to Mecca. The exploding heads would make it seem like the 4th of July.

117 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:21:55pm

re: #105 Olsonist

EECS from UC Berkeley.

you have hereby volunteered as victim

this happened jest now

WARNING - ONLY MAKES SENSE TO NERDS

so this feller call me up from texas, n he sez ah got this program here runs the videos on mah sign, an i wud like to hook up a GPS to it so's the videos change laik when i go into another county, see?

me "hmmm - so, do you have the source code?"

him "thah whut?"

so, here follows a lecture on the difference between source code - what he ain't got - and object code (machine code, executable, .exe) - what he do got

see, he thut that you could jest reprogram that .exe poor feller, so i had to set him straight

him "so, ok, yer sayin i got to get aholt of this here source code, or else ah'm hosed - raight?"

"you got it"

118 prairiefire  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:22:32pm

re: #112 EmmmieG

How are your Vit. D levels? Apparently most people are deficient.

119 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:25:46pm

re: #118 prairiefire

How are your Vit. D levels? Apparently most people are deficient.

Oh, yeah, I was supposed to be working on that.

Along with just about every other vitamin or mineral.

120 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:28:08pm

The snow has begun.

121 Olsonist  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:30:35pm

re: #117 engineer dog

Tell me, please tell me, you *didn't* try to tell him about Open Source? He's from Texas and there would have been a lot of cleanup involved.

I think the earliest open source was the SPICE circuit emulator from, ahem, my alma mater, the University of California at Berkeley.

122 freetoken  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:30:54pm

re: #120 Gus 802

The snow has begun.

So has the End, but no one has noticed.

123 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:31:49pm

re: #122 freetoken

So has the End, but no one has noticed.

Hey man. 'Ere. ;)

Youtube Video
124 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:34:40pm

re: #121 Olsonist

Tell me, please tell me, you *didn't* try to tell him about Open Source? He's from Texas and there would have been a lot of cleanup involved.

I think the earliest open source was the SPICE circuit emulator from, ahem, my alma mater, the University of California at Berkeley.

doan wanna twist this feller's brain with enny of this here commie open source stuff nao

125 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:36:39pm

I can say after all of these years of being in the USA. The West is the best. Still.

126 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:37:35pm

The massive landscape forms. Geology. Big skies.

127 Coracle  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:41:29pm

re: #67 negativ

[Video]

Bingo!

128 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:43:52pm

OMFG! So much for the Green Party!

[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

129 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:44:22pm

Too late. I squished mah brainz already. It's the evening after all.

130 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:45:09pm

re: #128 wlewisiii

OMFG! So much for the Green Party!

[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

I wouldn't even take a sewing class from her.

//

131 prairiefire  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:45:23pm

re: #126 Gus 802

The massive landscape forms. Geology. Big skies.

I live on top of hundreds of millions of years old rolling waves. No large dinosaur has ever been discovered in this frozen ocean and they never will be.
The dust is a bitch, though. It's like sweeping up pebbles.

132 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:46:23pm

re: #131 prairiefire

I live on top of hundreds of millions of years old rolling waves. No large dinosaur has ever been discovered in this frozen ocean and they never will.
The dust is a bitch, though. It's like sweeping up pebbles.

Yep. I hate grit in the teeth.

133 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:09:54pm

re: #131 prairiefire

I live on top of hundreds of millions of years old rolling waves. No large dinosaur has ever been discovered in this frozen ocean and they never will be.
The dust is a bitch, though. It's like sweeping up pebbles.

Round here it's brachiopods. And fossilized shark's teeth in a few locales as well.

134 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:24:45pm

re: #40 Decatur Deb

Same here, wife and three of the kids. Our meat at the Vicenza commissary
came from England via Germany.

Because they have no cows in Italy?

135 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:26:29pm

re: #58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

For my job, I go into homes. President Obama has some serious merchandise in 90% of the African American people's houses that I go to. This morning, there was a lovely "Obama praying" etched mirror.

I don't know who gets the money for this... but someone's making an absolute shitload of money on Obama merchandise.

Well, I think it's a bunch of diffrerent companies.

136 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:25:54pm

re: #116 oaktree

I would like to see him find a nice Muslim woman and then convert and head to Mecca. The exploding heads would make it seem like the 4th of July.

Seriously: Would they turn on him, or would they do a complete 180 on Islam and manage to convince themselves it was cool?


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