Tech Note: Comments Now Show Your ‘Display Name’

Brave new comment world
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Our new feature of the day has to do with comments; when you post a comment, your username is shown on the top line. This is how it’s been at LGF for lo, these many years.

But now, you can actually change the name that shows up in your comment, by entering a new name for your “display name” in your Account Settings.

This means that anyone with an LGF account can now use almost any name they like when posting comments.

But you can still easily find out who’s really behind that display name; just hover your mouse over it for a second or two and their real username will pop up. The real username is also shown in the Profile dialog box, when you click a user’s icon.

Note that changing your display name will change what appears in all your comments; if you’ve posted a comment previously with a different display name, it will change when you change the name.

And just in case someone decides to abuse this feature and impersonate someone for less-than-groovy reasons, I’ve coded it so that I have a simple, one-click way to completely turn it off and show only real usernames again.

Have at it. And try not to get discombobulated.

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932 comments
1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:58:57pm

Ron Paul!

2 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:59:36pm

G'night

3 SpaceJesus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:00:06pm

another sign of creeping shariah

4 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:01:12pm

Okay lets see if this works. :)

5 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:01:31pm

My hover is too slow, or something.

6 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:03:09pm

re: #3 Pamela Geller

another sign of creeping shariah

I love and trust all Muslims.

7 SpaceJesus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:04:24pm

re: #6 Pam Geller

DIMMHI TRAITOR

8 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:04:30pm

This is totally freaky-deaky; now that I have a clue.

9 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:04:33pm

This is fun. We could have a costume party. or not

10 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:04:43pm

Evolution is a lie!

11 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:04:50pm

Or this

12 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:05:21pm

Ye shall all burn in damnation for all of eturnity!

13 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:05:28pm

Because of the way this works, if you post a comment that's a joke related to the display name, the joke may not make much sense when you change the display name.

The display name is a global setting - it applies to everything you've posted, even existing comments and Pages.

14 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:05:44pm

re: #11 HªhªhªLºl

Or this

Awesome. Was just thinking about that.

15 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:05:48pm

LOL!

16 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:06:15pm

this is cool.

17 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:06:18pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Because of the way this works, if you post a comment that's a joke related to the display name, the joke may not make much sense when you change the display name.

The display name is a global setting - it applies to everything you've posted, even existing comments and Pages.

Yeah. I thought about that. Just having fun for now. :) Don't want to ruin my reputation. :)

18 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:06:28pm

re: #9 SHAEF daughter

This is fun. We could have a costume party. or not

Mardi Gras Secret Drinking Thread.

19 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:06:57pm

There. Fixed.

20 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:07:03pm

re: #18 Decatur Deb

Mardi Gras Secret Drinking Thread.

Halloween Come As Your Favorite Lizard Thread

21 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:08:43pm

WOOT!

22 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:09:55pm

If you want your joke to survive, quote yourself.

23 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:10:40pm

There are two kinds of people in the world, my friend. Those who change their screen name, and those who go "Huh?"

24 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:10:41pm

re: #12 Young Earth Creationist

Ye shall all burn in damnation for all of eturnity!

re: #22 Raging Retread

If you want your joke to survive, quote yourself.

Good idea!

25 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:10:59pm

Fossils are of the debil!

26 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:11:20pm

re: #25 Young Earth Creationist

So YOU say...

27 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:11:21pm

Lets check this shit out.

28 prairiefire  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:11:53pm

Santorum's appeal to the religious right is working: [Link: crooksandliars.com...]

29 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:12:00pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Because of the way this works, if you post a comment that's a joke related to the display name, the joke may not make much sense when you change the display name.

The display name is a global setting - it applies to everything you've posted, even existing comments and Pages.

One could always quote themselves as whatever display name they wanted and, from what I've seen so far, it should stick in the quoted text, even if the display name is changed.

30 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:12:16pm

re: #26 Watch out for Mr. Stinky!

So YOU say...

Sez so right here in this book!

31 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:12:23pm

re: #29 We Are All Charles Johnson

Like so...

32 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:12:37pm

re: #29 We Are All Charles Johnson

One could always quote themselves as whatever display name they wanted and, from what I've seen so far, should stick in the quote, even if the display name is changed.

Yes, the name will stick in a quote.

33 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:12:45pm

re: #27 Kragar

Lets check this shit out.

34 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:12:48pm

re: #24 Young Earth Creationist

re: #22 Raging Retread

Good idea!

Course it's a good idea!

35 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:13:43pm

re: #29 We Are All Charles Johnson

One could always quote themselves as whatever display name they wanted and, from what I've seen so far, should stick in the quote, even if the display name is changed.

You're late dude.

36 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:13:44pm

And Bingo was his name-o.

37 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:14:00pm

re: #36 There was a farmer who had a dog,

And Bingo was his name-o.

B-I-N-G-O
B-I-N-G-O
B-I-N-G-O
And Bingo was his name-o.

38 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:14:18pm

Mittens is in third in Minnesota. Zero expectations, indeed.

39 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:14:26pm

"Where are the Snowdens of Yesteryear?"

40 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:14:33pm

(Gus is drunk, y'all)

41 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:14:52pm

re: #40 Ron Paul Ain't Winnin' Shit!

(Gus is drunk, y'all)

No! Not yet.

//

42 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:15:14pm

re: #37 There was a farmer who had a dog,

B-I-N-G-O
B-I-N-G-O
B-I-N-G-O
And Bingo was his name-o.

Clap clap clap clap clap!

43 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:15:37pm

re: #39 Agustín Cosme Damián de Iturbide y Aramburu

"Where are the Snowdens of Yesteryear?"

I didn't catch that.

44 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:15:40pm

re: #35 Raging Retread

You're late dude.

Eh, what else is new?

45 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:16:03pm

re: #42 Tuco Benedicto Pací­fico Juan Maria Ramirez

Clap clap clap clap clap!

Thank you. Thank you very, very, much.

46 Petero1818  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:16:40pm

What happens if we go back in a post and see ourselves as another screen name? And what happens if that other screen name notices us?

47 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:16:58pm

re: #42 Tuco Benedicto Pací­fico Juan Maria Ramirez

Clap clap clap clap clap!

Looks like Gus just got the clap.

48 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:17:01pm

Just to demonstrate what happens if I disable the feature, I just did that. Reload the page and you'll see only real usernames.

49 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:17:21pm

I'll change it to something more srs later, but I like this now.

(I hope it went through).

50 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:17:34pm

re: #48 Charles

Just to demonstrate what happens if I disable the feature, I just did that. Reload the page and you'll see only real usernames.

You scared me.

51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:17:38pm

What do non-registered folks see?

52 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:17:41pm

re: #46 Petero1818

What happens if we go back in a post and see ourselves as another screen name? And what happens if that other screen name notices us?

Have you been playing Portal again?

53 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:17:45pm

re: #48 Charles

Just to demonstrate what happens if I disable the feature, I just did that. Reload the page and you'll see only real usernames.

Awwww, man...

///

54 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:17:46pm

re: #48 Charles

Just to demonstrate what happens if I disable the feature, I just did that. Reload the page and you'll see only real usernames.

That's why self-quoting is essential!

//

55 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:18:04pm

re: #46 Petero1818

What happens if we go back in a post and see ourselves as another screen name? And what happens if that other screen name notices us?

Your annihilation should release enough energy to power Biloxi for a century or two.

56 darthstar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:18:19pm

I've already got a screen name...now I just look redundant when you click on my name.

57 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:18:24pm

re: #46 Petero1818

What happens if we go back in a post and see ourselves as another screen name? And what happens if that other screen name notices us?

It'd be a paradox, wouldn't it?

58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:18:27pm

re: #48 Charles

Just to demonstrate what happens if I disable the feature, I just did that. Reload the page and you'll see only real usernames.

I AM THOR! DON'T MAKE ME BRING THE HAMMER!

59 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:18:59pm

Damn it all. I want Space Jesus to go back as Pam. I was just drinking up some nerve!

//

60 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:19:03pm

re: #58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I AM THOR! DON'T MAKE ME BRING THE HAMMER!


I AM IRON MAN!!!

61 Petero1818  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:19:15pm

re: #57 talon_262

It'd be a paradox, wouldn't it?

I just hope we can save Buckbeak!

62 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:19:33pm

Hmm I want to see if this works.

63 darthstar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:19:35pm

I like that Santorum already has more votes in Missouri than Romney won in Nevada.

of course, Missouri doesn't count...neither does Minnesota. We'll see if Colorado means anything soon.

64 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:19:38pm

OK, now I'm turning dynamic display names back on...

65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:19:49pm

re: #60 talon_262


I AM IRON MAN!!!

DUH DUH DUHDUHDUH DUHDUHDUHDUHDUHDUHDUH DUH DUH DUH

66 Digital Display  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:19:56pm

Tonight you can sleep well.. I will never change my screen name for any reason..Even if the quote/post/screen name is pure genius... I promise you! mmmm. I could use Hoopster..Or Oklahomahoops..or..
did I promise? LOL
The only thing I wish we had on this awesome Blog is to self delete a post..
You know we can correct a post with a pencil icon..I say let's go to the ultimate post correct and have a delete icon

67 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:20:14pm

re: #7 Pamela Geller

DIMMHI TRAITOR

So. Come here often?

68 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:20:17pm

re: #62 PhillyPretzel
Ahh I see. We will try it again.

69 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:20:39pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

I am assuming that most people tonight are going to pay more attention to the shiny new toy than the caucuses.

70 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:20:42pm

re: #68 Georgia Tech Aunt
Yay it worked. Yippee!

71 Petero1818  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:21:11pm

re: #69 Dwarf Tossing Champion, 2011

Missouri.........

72 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:21:27pm

re: #67 Dwight Kurt Schrute III

So. Come here often?

Wanna see my beet farm?

73 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:21:42pm

re: #69 Dwarf Tossing Champion, 2011

I am assuming that most people tonight are going to pay more attention to the shiny new toy than the caucuses.

You must admit it's more amusing, and possibly as politically important as the couscous.

74 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:21:43pm

re: #69 Dwarf Tossing Champion, 2011

I am assuming that most people tonight are going to pay more attention to the shiny new toy than the caucuses.

To greater purpose.

75 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:21:59pm

Shut up Jim! You stay out of this.

76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:22:03pm

re: #66 HoosierHoops

Tonight you can sleep well.. I will never change my screen name for any reason..Even if the quote/post/screen name is pure genius... I promise you! mmm. I could use Hoopster..Or Oklahomahoops..or..
did I promise? LOL
The only thing I wish we had on this awesome Blog is to self delete a post..
You know we can correct a post with a pencil icon..I say let's go to the ultimate post correct and have a delete icon

I've used the pencil to self-delete a couple of times. Just have to do it within the time allotted.

77 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:22:05pm

re: #70 Georgia Tech Aunt

Yay it worked. Yippee!

Just make sure to check your palms for excess hair every once in a while.

78 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:22:54pm

re: #73 Occupy: LGF (Stabby)

You must admit it's more amusing, and possibly as politically important as the couscous.

The couscous only provide a handful of delegates orzo.

79 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:23:16pm

re: #77 Raging Retread

Just make sure to check your palms for excess hair every once in a while.

I hear too much self quoting can do that.

80 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:24:15pm

re: #78 Decatur Deb

The couscous only provide a handful of delegates orzo.

True, but Laup Nor is the people's gyro.

81 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:24:28pm

re: #79 Raging Retread

Just stop if you feel a little fuzzy.

82 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:24:56pm

Whew. All better now.

83 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:24:57pm

This could be fun, tailoring a screen name to each thread.

84 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:24:59pm

re: #80 Occupy: LGF (Stabby)

True, but Laup Nor is the people's gyro.

Yeah--they're schwarman to his rallies/

85 miclaine  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:25:06pm

i needs to recombobulate!

86 Kronocide  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:25:21pm

Novovirus, downding. Or 5.

87 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:25:37pm

re: #80 Occupy: LGF (Stabby)

Speaking of Luap Nor, why are so many of my friends here (many of them Muslim), who are usually quite sane, enamored with him? I'm missing something here.

88 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:25:58pm

Whew! That bee costume was hot. I have to come up with another.

89 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:26:15pm

re: #87 Dwarf Tossing Champion, 2011

Speaking of Luap Nor, why are so many of my friends here (many of them Muslim), who are usually quite sane, enamored with him? I'm missing something here.

Hookahs.

90 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:26:17pm

I'm hiding in Killgore's greenhouse amidst a large growth of kale with a can of pepper spray. Waiting for him to come home. Shhhh. Be very quiet.

91 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:26:25pm

re: #87 Dwarf Tossing Champion, 2011

Speaking of Luap Nor, why are so many of my friends here (many of them Muslim), who are usually quite sane, enamored with him? I'm missing something here.

Isolationist foreign policy is my bet.

92 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:26:27pm

re: #83 meat is murder

This could be fun, tailoring a screen name to each thread.

Yeah ... but remember, when you change the name it changes in all previous threads too.

93 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:26:56pm

re: #80 Occupy: LGF (Stabby)

True, but Laup Nor is the people's gyro.

Wait a minute. Are you talking about the sandwich or the Disney character whose last name is "Gearloose"?

94 erik_t  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:27:39pm

Strib lied to me. We went from 15% reporting to 4%. Frothy mix still with a huge lead, but obviously less meaningful now.

95 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:27:42pm

re: #90 Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse
Do I have to put my bee costume back on? /

96 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:27:49pm

re: #90 Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse

I'm hiding in Killgore's greenhouse amidst a large growth of kale with a can of pepper spray. Waiting for him to come home. Shhh. Be very quiet.

I pictured Elmer Fudd saying that.

97 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:27:53pm

re: #89 Decatur Deb

re: #91 Occupy: LGF (Stabby)

Do they even know what his Isolationism entails, or what exactly he wants? Because I get the feeling they are falling for shiny soundbytes.

I usually don't.

98 CuriousLurker  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:27:59pm

re: #87 Dwarf Tossing Champion, 2011

Speaking of Luap Nor, why are so many of my friends here (many of them Muslim), who are usually quite sane, enamored with him? I'm missing something here.

WRT Muslims, probably largely because of his of his desire for isolationism.

99 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:29:10pm

re: #93 Tuco Benedicto Pací­fico Juan Maria Ramirez

Wait a minute. Are you talking about the sandwich or the Disney character whose last name is "Gearloose"?

:)

Works either way, doesn't it?

100 Petero1818  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:29:21pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

Yeah ... but remember, when you change the name it changes in all previous threads too.

Or this.....

101 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:29:33pm

Woo! This should be fun.

102 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:29:48pm

re: #96 talon_262

I pictured Elmer Fudd saying that.

But the frog doesn't sing if anyone else is watching.

103 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:30:38pm

re: #98 CuriousLurker

Again though, I don't think they understand what his isolationism means.

I never fell for Paul. I thought he was an outdated kook when I was in High School. (Primaries started in my last semester of Senior Year. I was Pro-Obama.)

And why don't you have a new funny name. :P

104 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:31:14pm

re: #97 Dwarf Tossing Champion, 2011

re: #91 Occupy: LGF (Stabby)

Do they even know what his Isolationism entails, or what exactly he wants? Because I get the feeling they are falling for shiny soundbytes.

I usually don't.

They see Israel losing about 3bn per year, much of which goes into Foreign Military Sales contracts.

105 SpaceJesus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:31:24pm

i feel bi-polar now

106 SpaceJesus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:31:45pm

MUUSSLIIMMMSS

107 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:31:47pm

re: #95 PhillyPretzel

Do I have to put my bee costume back on? /

Had to think for a moment. Didn't know who you were talking too. ;)

108 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:32:20pm

re: #105 Pamela Geller

i feel bi-polar now

Or, maybe drunk?

109 kirkspencer  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:32:20pm

re: #103 Dwarf Tossing Champion, 2011

Again though, I don't think they understand what his isolationism means.

I never fell for Paul. I thought he was an outdated kook when I was in High School. (Primaries started in my last semester of Senior Year. I was Pro-Obama.)

Last kook I fell for was Ross Perot. Absentee ballot mailed in the day before his "black helicopter" collapse.

110 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:32:24pm

re: #105 Pamela Geller

i feel bi-polar now

Feel? FEEL!?

//

111 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:32:24pm

See, that's why a screen name like mine is awesome, because people will read the earlier posts and go "That makes no sense whatsoever....oh, riiight."

112 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:32:38pm

--------

113 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:32:43pm

re: #105 Pamela Geller

i feel bi-polar now

Every good tern deserves another.

114 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:32:47pm

I have now walked in Glenn Beck's shoes.

115 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:33:42pm

Wow. That's funny. You can't respond to "[deleted]".

116 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:33:47pm

re: #104 Decatur Deb

So, I guess they don't know about the aid for Haiti going away, or legitimately good work in help Africa disappearing, or any multitude of things that Paul would kill off.

117 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:34:05pm

re: #115 Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse

I disappeared myself.

118 erik_t  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:34:19pm

re: #115 Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse

Wow. That's funny. You can't respond to "[deleted]".

Someone is clearly a comp sci major. Anybody want to try null?

119 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:34:27pm

re: #114 Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse

I have now walked in Glenn Beck's shoes.

I hope you have a podiatrist appointment, VERY soon!

120 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:34:48pm

re: #117 no sarcasm, please ///

I disappeared myself.

Poof! Good job!

121 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:35:14pm

Let's try another one.

122 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:35:17pm

I am not a geek.

123 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:35:39pm

Word!

124 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:35:42pm

re: #122 James Tiberius Kirk

I am not a geek.

Yes. Yes you are.

125 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:36:06pm

re: #122 James Tiberius Kirk
The trekkies will love you.

126 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:36:12pm

re: #122 James Tiberius Kirk

I am not a geek.

Nor I.

127 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:36:30pm

re: #123 This user is blocked.

Word!

Too funny!

128 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:36:51pm

Fill in the blank.

129 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:36:57pm

re: #127 Godzilla

Too funny!

Mongo angry!

130 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:37:11pm

Now, to see who my home county in Colorado chooses in the Caucus.

Obviously, it is El Paso County.

131 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:37:49pm

Testing

132 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:38:16pm

I'm cured!

133 nines09  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:38:22pm

Trying this scooter out.

134 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:39:05pm

re: #132 jaunte

I'm cured!

No you're not, Hoopster.

135 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:39:13pm

Good lord. Santorum's winning all three states right now.

136 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:39:42pm

OK. I'm back now.

//

137 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:39:51pm

re: #135 I Am Not Spock

Good lord. Santorum's winning all three states right now.

This is good news for John McCain Mitt Romney.

138 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:40:10pm

Changed my name to something that is more true nowadays. I'm still fairly Pro-Gun. Just not to the stupid NRA level.

139 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:40:26pm

re: #125 PhillyPretzel

The trekkies will love you.

That's just the ponfar talking.

140 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:40:37pm

It's Rick Santorum's 15 minutes.

141 erik_t  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:40:56pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

It's Rick Santorum's 15 minutes.

FRO- THY MIX!
FRO- THY MIX!
FRO- THY MIX!
FRO- THY MIX!
FRO- THY MIX!

142 Artist  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:40:59pm

Hey, what's up?

143 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:41:15pm

re: #126 I Am Not Spock

Nor I.

You're being illogical.

144 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:41:23pm

Ha! I had a sneaking suspicion that Sanatorium would win Colorado.

145 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:42:22pm

re: #144 Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse
That is a good play on words. Sanatorium.

146 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:42:23pm

re: #143 NullHypothesis

You're being illogical.

Fascinating.

You seen a cat around here somewhere? I think I let him out by mistake.

//

147 nines09  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:42:29pm

re: #144 Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse

Ha! I had a sneaking suspicion that Sanatorium would win Colorado.

They have no idea who he is.

148 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:42:30pm

re: #135 BongCrodny

Good lord. Santorum's winning all three states right now.

Random fluctuation of the quantum state of the entire universe. Happens all the time. Please see my link (from a few days ago) to Sean Carroll's example of the ease of finding a "3 sigma" event.

149 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:42:34pm

re: #119 Godzilla

I hope you have a podiatrist appointment, VERY soon!

Getting the bambi cleared from between the toes?

150 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:42:36pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

It's Rick Santorum's 15 minutes.

This means nothing! You got that? Nothing!

151 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:43:11pm

re: #148 freetoken

Random fluctuation of the quantum state of the entire universe. Happens all the time. Please see my link (from a few days ago) to Sean Carroll's example of the ease of finding a "3 sigma" event.

You are not Freetoken! You lie! Who are you?

//

152 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:43:12pm

re: #139 Contains 17% Spartacus by Weight

That's just the ponfar talking.

Saving for future blackmail attempt.

153 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:43:30pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

It's Rick Santorum's 15 minutes.

So, he's finally become the ABR flavor of the week, huh?

Good luck with that, Rick, because it's still gonna be Mitt in the general.

154 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:43:44pm

re: #144 Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse

I'm curious if he will win my Home County. There are a lot of Mormons in COS. Two Mormon Churches (I don't know what the non-Temple buildings are called) in Briargate alone, with another north of the Mall.

On the other hand, huge number of Evangelical Churches and Organizations that could be friendly to Santorum.

155 erik_t  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:44:03pm

re: #153 talon_262

So, he's finally become the ABR flavor of the week, huh?

Good luck with that, Rick, because it's still gonna be Mitt in the general.

I find 538's argument for a vaguely dangerous Santorum to be rather compelling.

156 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:44:44pm

re: #144 Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse

Ha! I had a sneaking suspicion that Sanatorium would win Colorado.

157 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:44:55pm

re: #155 erik_t

I find 538's argument for a vaguely dangerous Santorum to be rather compelling.

Dangerous to Romney or to Obama?

158 nines09  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:45:00pm

The only question is who will be the VP nominee. Cut to the crazy or the insane? Decisions, decisions...

159 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:45:30pm

re: #154 ProGunLiberal

I'm curious if he will win my Home County. There are a lot of Mormons in COS. Two Mormon Churches (I don't know what the non-Temple buildings are called) in Briargate alone, with another north of the Mall).

On the other hand, huge number of Evangelical Churches and Organizations that could be friendly to Santorum.

That's actually good news that Santorum is winning in Colorado -- for Obama that is. It's opposite of a Purple State concept. If Colorado was a true Purple State it would go for Romney. Something is up here. I thought maybe Ron Paul would win.

161 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:46:45pm

The caucuses in Denver didn't open until 7:30 PM from what I heard. Really strange set-up that Republicans have here in Colorado.

162 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:47:17pm

re: #159 Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse

Don't get too excited now. The counties that have come in thus far small rural counties, well out of the way.

Let's wait until more results come in.

163 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:47:22pm

re: #158 Repeatedly Dropped On My Head As A Child

The only question is who will be the VP nominee. Cut to the crazy or the insane? Decisions, decisions...

Michelle Bachman!

164 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:47:57pm

re: #151 Gus 802

You are not Freetoken! You lie! Who are you?

Aw... shucks... you caught me.

165 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:48:28pm

Santorum declared the winner in Missouri! Yay!

166 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:48:29pm

re: #164 freetoken

Aw... shucks... you caught me.

Damn you! Soylent Green is people!

167 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:49:00pm

Nate Silver: College students love their smokes.

Ron Paul is leading the vote count so far in both Hennepin County and Ramsay County, home to Minneapolis and St. Paul, respectively - and to large numbers of college students. Mr. Paul looks to have decent chances of finishing ahead of Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich in Minnesota, where Rick Santorum has a lead so far. [Link: fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com...]

168 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:49:12pm

The question I have is why does Gus still come up as "Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse" in quoted comments, but not on the actual heading of his comments (via the Spy mode I'm using?)

169 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:49:13pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

Santorum declared the winner in Missouri! Yay!

Missouri is the sanctum Sanctorum.

170 nines09  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:49:23pm

re: #163 Godzilla

The labs are working on it right now. And I don't mean dogs. "Abby. Abby Normal".

171 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:49:41pm

re: #168 freetoken

The question I have is why does Gus still come up as "Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse" in quoted comments, but not on the actual heading of his comments (via the Spy mode I'm using?)

Spy is immune.

172 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:49:54pm

Too funny. Santorum making a showing tonight. Seriously. Republicans are all over the place this year. Even with Romney as the anointed one.

173 Petero1818  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:50:00pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

Santorum declared the winner in Missouri! Yay!

And we all now that as Missouri goes, so goes ....I don't know maybe Mississippi? /

174 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:50:32pm

The Spy is running in Palantir mode.

175 erik_t  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:50:40pm

re: #167 Octo Pied

Nate Silver: College students love their smokes.

Minnesota might actually not re-illegalize pot, so they've got that going for them...

176 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:50:41pm

re: #168 freetoken

The question I have is why does Gus still come up as "Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse" in quoted comments, but not on the actual heading of his comments (via the Spy mode I'm using?)

Quoted comments are stored in the database as a block of text. The info on the top line is generated dynamically whenever the comments are loaded.

177 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:51:33pm

What's up bitches? Really, I'm feeling withdrawals.

WTF Mormon Man? WTF 2 Catholic Mans? Why aren't I your one and only.

I can bring em. All the misinformed and pissed off.

Why not me?

178 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:51:41pm

re: #167 Octo Pied

I can say that is relatively common here at OU too.

I facepalm at my fellow college students. They are quickly falling for soundbytes, and not doing independent research into Paul history, positions, or what his policies would do to the US.

179 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:52:26pm

Thank you Charles for another great tool and good night to my fellow Lizards.

180 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:52:39pm

re: #177 Sarah Palin

What's up bitches? Really, I'm feeling withdrawals.

WTF Mormon Man? WTF 2 Catholic Mans? Why aren't I your one and only.

I can bring em. All the misinformed and pissed off.

Why not me?

When in doubt, play creepy Garbage songs.
:)

181 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:52:51pm

re: #172 Gus 802

Too funny. Santorum making a showing tonight. Seriously. Republicans are all over the place this year. Even with Romney as the anointed one.

Sticking with leguminous analogies:

Romney:Tofu :: Santorum:Natto

Natto is an acquired taste.

182 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:52:57pm

How much fun is Dan Savage having right now


wish list: newt gets out of the race, endorses Santorum, shitfest continues to the convention

183 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:53:10pm

re: #178 ProGunLiberal

I can say that is relatively common here at OU too.

I facepalm at my fellow college students. They are quickly falling for soundbytes, and not doing independent research into Paul history, positions, or what his policies would do to the US.

Start posting links to the newsletters!

184 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:53:35pm

re: #177 Sarah Palin

What's up bitches? Really, I'm feeling withdrawals.

WTF Mormon Man? WTF 2 Catholic Mans? Why aren't I your one and only.

I can bring em. All the misinformed and pissed off.

Why not me?

Y'know, if you'd endorsed me, this whole thing would be over now.

185 erik_t  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:53:58pm

re: #180 Occupy: LGF (Stabby)

[Video]When in doubt, play creepy Garbage songs.
:)

Growing up in (western) OR and going to school in central AZ, I can't really explain the degree to which 'I'm only happy when it rains' resonated with me.

But, you know, I was.

186 nines09  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:54:24pm

What did we learn tonight? Neat little app (Thanks Charles) and The Clown Car Rolls On!
G'nite all.

187 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:54:31pm

re: #184 Mitt Romney

Y'know, if you'd endorsed me, this whole thing would be over now.

But Newt promised the Flying Moose Rocket Suit!
(GINGRICH!)

188 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:54:41pm

re: #183 Occupy: LGF (Stabby)

I'm guessing links to LGF? :P

189 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:55:09pm

You know what? I cannot believe Todd's snow mobile show didn't get picked up.

FUCK

I still have to rehearse, rehearse and more rehearse these stupid Fox News cameos. It SUCKS.

190 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:55:13pm

re: #185 erik_t

Growing up in OR and going to school in central AZ, I can't really explain the degree to which 'I'm only happy when it rains' resonated with me.

But, you know, I was.

My parents lived in Bend for a while. I can see that.

191 erik_t  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:55:44pm

re: #190 Occupy: LGF (Stabby)

My parents lived in Bend for a while. I can see that.

As if Bend gets rain. Ha! I say, Ha!

192 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:56:04pm

re: #190 Occupy: LGF (Stabby)

My parents lived in Bend for a while. I can see that.

deschutes brewery in bend is mighty

193 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:56:26pm

Well, I won't change anything. I"ve been paging that way anyway and my user name makes my identity pretty easy to find any way.

194 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:56:40pm

re: #177 Sarah Palin

What's up bitches? Really, I'm feeling withdrawals.

WTF Mormon Man? WTF 2 Catholic Mans? Why aren't I your one and only.

I can bring em. All the misinformed and pissed off.

Why not me?

It's your shoes. They're ugly.

195 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:57:30pm

I'd like to announce that as of tonight, I'm changing my religion to Roman Catholic.

196 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:58:00pm

re: #177 Sarah Palin

What's up bitches? Really, I'm feeling withdrawals.

WTF Mormon Man? WTF 2 Catholic Mans? Why aren't I your one and only.

I can bring em. All the misinformed and pissed off.

Why not me?

You have a crippling case of lacking-a-penis. Since the GOP heeds the words of Zardoz, wangless means ineligible to rule.

197 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:58:27pm

By the way, the main reason I spent time to code this 'display name' feature was to address an issue that comes up constantly - when someone wants to change their username. You still can't actually change your primary registered username, but you can now ensure that the name that shows up on your comments and Pages is the name you want.

198 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:58:36pm

I'm going to have fun with this for a while. Yes, I'm easily amused.

;)

199 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:58:40pm

what's this i hear about the peasants celebrating santorumnalia tonite??

200 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:58:57pm

re: #194 NullHypothesis

It's your shoes. They're ugly.

Oh the fine line of fuck me, vs. conservative c tease.,

201 wee fury  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:59:08pm

Why?
I don't understand why this would be a good thing -- or a bad thing.

202 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:59:17pm

re: #196 Contains 17% Spartacus by Weight

You have a crippling case of lacking-a-penis. Since the GOP heeds the words of Zardoz, wangless means ineligible to rule.

So the 1% is setting themselves up for immortality and isolating themselves in a green house... like Killgore's. Hey, wait a minute!!!

203 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:59:23pm

re: #198 Jazzy Ponytail
Hilarity ensues...

204 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:59:37pm

re: #195 Mitt Romney

I'd like to announce that as of tonight, I'm changing my religion to Roman Catholic.

They still won't think you're Christian.

205 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:59:42pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

Unfortunately, for the next 24 hours, it will be people playing with the new feature to do things such as....

re: #195 Mitt Romney

I'd like to announce that as of tonight, I'm changing my religion to Roman Catholic.

206 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:00:13pm

re: #189 Sarah Palin

You know what? I cannot believe Todd's snow mobile show didn't get picked up.

FUCK

I still have to rehearse, rehearse and more rehearse these stupid Fox News cameos. It SUCKS.

Chin up, there's always more suckers born.

207 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:00:56pm
208 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:01:05pm

Colorado has fallen for Rick Santorum, big time. We're down the rabbit hole, people.

209 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:01:20pm

re: #205 ProGunLiberal

Unfortunately, for the next 24 hours, it will be people playing with the new feature to do things such as...

re: #195 Mitt Romney

Hey, what can we say? We're an easily amused lot...

210 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:01:45pm

re: #207 Gus 802

Oh yeah.

I'm Only Happy When it Rains

Which incidentally is the current state of the weather here in San Diego county.

211 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:01:46pm

re: #206 NullHypothesis

Chin up, there's always more suckers born.

Are you kidding me? I've hired a really cool SarahLover for real cheap. She will figure out my next grift. Easy Peasy,

212 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:02:06pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

Colorado has fallen for Rick Santorum, big time. We're down the rabbit hole, people.

Santorum is surging...

213 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:02:08pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

Colorado has fallen for Rick Santorum, big time. We're down the rabbit hole, people.

The GOP part at least. But come the general do they come out for Mitt?

214 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:02:33pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

Colorado has fallen for Rick Santorum, big time. We're down the rabbit hole, people.

NO BIRTH CONTROL!

(me and my kin stand behind that one)

and away we go.

215 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:02:56pm

re: #200 Sarah Palin

Oh the fine line of fuck me, vs. conservative c tease.,

Too much 'fuck you too' style.

216 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:03:00pm

re: #212 talon_262

I just had to vomit.

////

Seriously that makes me queasy.

217 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:03:00pm

re: #210 freetoken

Which incidentally is the current state of the weather here in San Diego county.

traffic for 1.5 today

218 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:03:06pm

re: #209 talon_262

Hey, what can we say? We're an easily amused lot...

Criminals Lizards are a superstitious supercillious lot....

219 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:03:08pm

re: #208 Charles

Two words: Colorado Springs.

Well, he has support in the rest of the state too, but for some reason years ago Colorado Springs was anointed as some magickal ground for magickal thinking, and it's never been the same since then.

220 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:03:31pm

re: #213 Occupy: LGF (Stabby)

The GOP part at least. But come the general do they come out for Mitt?

With diminished enthusiasm, even if a few more fortunes are spent.

221 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:03:48pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

Colorado has fallen for Rick Santorum, big time. We're down the rabbit hole, people.

When I left Denver last Spring and got into other parts of Colorado it was like being in another country.

222 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:03:49pm

Missouri's pointless primary has been called for the Frothy One apparently.

223 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:04:10pm

re: #211 Sarah Palin

Are you kidding me? I've hired a really cool SarahLover for real cheap. She will figure out my next grift. Easy Peasy,

They're a dime a dozen, babe.

224 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:05:02pm

I hope the eventual ticket stays Santorum-free.

225 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:05:08pm

re: #222 Jazzy Ponytail

[Link: nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com...]

226 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:05:12pm

re: #216 ProGunLiberal

I just had to vomit.

///

Seriously that makes me queasy.

The fact that Santorum could be and is being considered as a serious contender for the GOP presidential nom should make anyone sick, but I digress...

227 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:05:31pm

Hahaha!
GO RICK!
/

228 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:05:36pm

re: #219 freetoken

You can say that again.

Again, living there for over 10 years, I have a bit of experience with the place. Not much of it good.

However, El Paso County has not come in yet. At least, not to CNN.com

229 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:05:57pm

Colorado Springs Rickrolls America.

230 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:06:20pm

re: #226 talon_262

The fact that Santorum could be and is being considered as a serious contender for the GOP presidential nom should make anyone sick, but I digress...

He's a REAL conservative, unlike the Mormon flip-flopper, the crazy old man, and the philandering jerk.

///

231 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:06:25pm

re: #229 SentenceBeforeTheVerdict

Colorado Springs Rickrolls America.

Home of Amendment 2.

232 Petero1818  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:06:27pm

re: #226 talon_262

The fact that Santorum could be and is being considered as a serious contender for the GOP presidential nom should make anyone sick, but I digress...

As opposed to Gingrich, Paul, Bachmann, Perry and Cain?

233 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:06:39pm

And Mitt's even been trying real, real hard to play the Christian Victimization card in CO:


Romney says Obama infringing upon religious rights

Mitt Romney accused President Barack Obama of infringing upon Americans’ religious rights in a fiery address to more than 2,500 supporters Monday in Colorado.

“The Creator gave every human being his rights,” Romney told the audience, to sustained cheers. “I’m just distressed as I watch our president try and infringe upon our rights.”

In recent weeks the GOP frontrunner has signaled he would attack the president over the charge his administration has rolled back the rights of religious individuals and institutions. Romney went further at his Monday rally and publicly detailed specific examples of Obama’s “violation of conscience.”

Romney cited a new policy from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services that requires some religious institutions, including schools and hospitals, to provide coverage of birth control to their employees.

No matter how hard he tries, Romney just won't be able to convince the religious right that he is one of them.

234 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:07:49pm

no more of this hallucinating under a false fur

obey, ye hairless ape beings, or woe betide your precious draperies bwahahahaha

235 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:07:49pm

re: #229 jaunte

Colorado Springs Rickrolls America.

America's televangelical closet.

236 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:08:07pm

re: #231 Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse

And a whole lot of other dumbfuckery.

Fun Fact: A few years ago, I learned that alot of the Homeless in Colorado Springs are gay kids who were kicked out of their homes by their parents when they found out.

Christian (TM) Love at its finest.

////spit

237 Mocking Jay  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:08:10pm

Ah, if only brookly red had been able to hang on for just a few more months...

238 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:08:13pm

War mongering neocons step up to the plate.
'Your days are numbered,' U.S. official tells al-Assad

As violence raged in Syria, U.S. officials made clear Tuesday that the United States has lost patience with President Bashar al-Assad.
"Your days are numbered," U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice said in comments directed at the Syrian leader. "It is time and past time for you to transfer power responsibly and peacefully."
Her remarks came as two senior administration officials told CNN that, while the U.S. focus remains on exerting diplomatic and economic pressure on Damascus, the Pentagon and U.S. Central Command have begun a preliminary internal review of U.S. military capabilities in order to prepare options in the event that President Obama calls for them.

Wingnut troll! Activate the drum circle!

239 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:08:14pm

re: #229 SentenceBeforeTheVerdict

Colorado Springs Rickrolls America.

Someone told the GOP that Rick's mom was watching the game tonight, so they gave him one for the season.

240 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:08:16pm

re: #224 SentenceBeforeTheVerdict

I hope the eventual ticket stays Santorum-free.

I hope most things stay Santorum-free.

241 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:10:32pm

re: #238 Killgore Trout

War mongering neocons step up to the plate.
'Your days are numbered,' U.S. official tells al-Assad

Wingnut troll! Activate the drum circle!

Who are you?

242 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:10:41pm

santi
santorum
santibus
insanum
insantibus

243 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:11:19pm

This name stuff is fun and confusing. The hover ID is fine, but the same doesn't work for a quoted post which means one has to backtrack to be be sure one knows who is in the conversation. This could get embarrassing at times.

244 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:11:55pm

re: #223 NullHypothesis

They're a dime a dozen, babe.

Where did Sarah go?

245 SpaceJesus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:11:59pm

Is that 1% coming from just Colorado Springs

246 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:12:06pm

re: #238 Killgore Trout

War mongering neocons step up to the plate.
'Your days are numbered,' U.S. official tells al-Assad

Wingnut troll! Activate the drum circle!

And Assad asks Syria...

247 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:13:21pm

re: #226 talon_262

The fact that Santorum could be and is being considered as a serious contender for the GOP presidential nom should make anyone sick, but I digress...

The anti birth control candidate. I love him.

But Newt the bomb throwing hypocrite....he fits me fine.

248 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:13:28pm

re: #241 NullHypothesis

Who are you?


"I hardly know, sir. I've changed so many times since this morning."
249 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:13:54pm
250 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:14:09pm

re: #245 Pamela Geller

No.

It is coming from rural counties in the state. 2 mountain counties, 3 in the South-East of the State, and the one in the Northeast corner.

251 Atlas Fails  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:15:08pm

re: #247 Sarah Palin

The anti birth control candidate. I love him.

But Newt the bomb throwing hypocrite...he fits me fine.

Which anti-birth control candidate?

252 Mocking Jay  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:15:10pm

Oh yeah, this new feature is gonna be fun.

253 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:16:22pm

re: #252 WhoLetTheDogsOutOfTheKennelOnTopOfTheCar?

Oh yeah, this new feature is gonna be fun.

Oh, that's bad.

254 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:16:31pm

re: #245 Pamela Geller

Is that 1% coming from just Colorado Springs

If you lived in the Springs you'd pray to God a lot too. It's a sad place.

255 SpaceJesus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:16:53pm

A Santorum nomination has almost as much comedy as a Paul. Go get em Rick, you crazy Theocrat piece of crap.

256 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:16:56pm

It was a long hard drive home from work today. But I made it.

Australia, outside my window now. oooh

257 Artist  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:17:41pm

re: #251 Atlas Fails

All of them.

258 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:17:44pm

re: #256 Sarah Palin

It was a long hard drive home from work today. But I made it.

Australia, outside my window now. oooh

I can see Olympus Mons.

259 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:17:46pm

re: #254 Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse

Because of Budget Cuts, half of the Streetlights in the city are not on anymore.

There are little facts that I am likely to share from my experiences there.

260 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:17:50pm

Colorado Springs! Slowly I turned...

Back in '81, my buddy Zak and I traveled cross country. Those days being somewhat more, um, hippiesque, we financed the trip by selling weed and hash at various cities along the way west.

There was this big Frisbee tournament going on in Colorado Springs as we were passing through, and we thought it seemed like a great place to move some product and enjoy a day in the sun. (We had less than a half-pound combined; we weren't exactly Cheech and Chong here.)

We split up, to do our respective marketing. We were supposed to meet up around 5:00 or so, when the event was coming to a close.

5:00, 6:00, 7:00, 8:00, no Zak. Couldn't begin to think what had happened to him.

Finally, about 9:00 or so, I see this ragged figure in the distance; as he drew nearer, I could see him limping. It was Zak, and it looked like he went three rounds with a grizzly bear.

It should be noted that earlier in the day, I had overheard two Air Force guys talking; at the time I paid it no attention, but one of them had said "If I catch that little fuck I'm gonna kill him."

So, yeah. What had happened was Zak was in the Port-a-John line with one of the Air Force guys' buddies, and the guy inside was taking an exceptionally long time to conduct his business.

The guy's friend said, "Hey, I know this guy, let's play a joke on him. Let's tip over the Port-a-John. Of course, Zak, being somewhat of a weasel himself, went wholeheartedly for the joke.

As the guy burst out of the tipped-over outhouse, Zak's co-conspirator pointed at him and yelled "HE DID IT!"

...and proceeded to join the other guy in beating the living tar out of him.

261 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:18:08pm

re: #255 Pamela Geller

A Santorum nomination has almost as much comedy as a Paul. Go get em, Rick you crazy Theocrat piece of crap.

Pamela, you surprise me.

262 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:18:20pm

re: #255 Pamela Geller

A Santorum nomination has almost as much comedy as a Paul. Go get em, Rick you crazy Theocrat piece of crap.

Anything that gets us a brokered convention in Tampa. I'd actually subject myself to the RNC if that happened. Heh.

263 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:19:10pm

re: #258 Varek Raith

I can see Olympus Mons.

You are lucky! Is there a stuffed toy?

264 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:19:12pm

re: #256 Sarah Palin

It was a long hard drive home from work today. But I made it.

Australia, outside my window now. oooh

That's not Austria?

265 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:19:19pm
266 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:19:49pm

re: #255 SpaceJesus

A Santorum nomination has almost as much comedy as a Paul. Go get em, Rick you crazy Theocrat piece of crap.

I don't think it is possible for Santorum to end up with enough delegates to win, though I expect him to be a VP candidate.

However, given he won Iowa, probably wins Missouri, and may even win Minnesota, he has a claim that at least in the upper Mississippi valley he (Santorum) really is preferred by the activist base in the GOP.

267 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:19:56pm

Immature lol@cnn headline
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

268 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:20:56pm

re: #264 NullHypothesis

That's not Austria?

nope, there's a reef. And hunky boys. Not Austria. No.

269 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:20:57pm

re: #260 BongCrodny

Oh, don't remind me. A close friend who goes to CSU had a boyfriend from the Air Force Academy. A jackass who said nasty things about Muslims during the Park51 stuff.

Then, he broke her heart in August. Guy went straight to Harvard Grad School from Air Force, getting an immediate deferment for it.

270 SpaceJesus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:20:59pm

لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله

271 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:21:37pm

Let's see:

-Unemployment is down
-Komen's VP has resigned
-Proposition 8 has been ruled unconstitutional
-And now, the laughably unelectable "Frothy" is stealing the show and thumping Mitt Romney dead

So much good news in so little time! :-D

272 Atlas Fails  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:21:58pm

Am I a bad person for my new display name?

273 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:22:52pm

More voices than usual in my head. Time to give them a warm drink and off to bed.

274 Mocking Jay  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:23:00pm

re: #272 Rick Perry sez: How is babby formed???

No, that's not what makes you a bad person.

275 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:23:19pm

re: #270 Pamela Geller

لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله

oooh, oooh, what do I do?

276 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:23:36pm

re: #275 Sarah Palin

oooh, oooh, what do I do?

TEQUILA!

277 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:23:55pm

re: #272 Rick Perry sez: How is babby formed???

No, you are not.

Romney now leads in CO.

One Denver-Metro county came in, and Castle Rock's county as well. 33% of Arapahoe, and 50% of Douglas

278 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:23:57pm

re: #258 Varek Raith

I can see Olympus Mons.

I've seen Mons Publica a few times.

279 SpaceJesus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:24:11pm

re: #275 Sarah Palin


sup mama grizzly

280 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:24:36pm

re: #277 ProGunLiberal

However, it is only a 2 vote lead.

281 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:24:38pm

lol The minority party has spoken tonight.

282 erik_t  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:25:30pm

@LOLGOP is going to get carpal tunnel.

283 Atlas Fails  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:25:38pm

re: #281 Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse

lol The anti-minority party has spoken tonight.

FIFY

284 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:25:50pm

re: #279 Pamela Geller

sup mama grizzly

Hot and pissed FOR AMERICA.

all you'll ever want.

285 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:25:55pm

re: #277 ProGunLiberal

No, you are not.

Romney now leads in CO.

One Denver-Metro county came in, and Castle Rock's county as well. 33% of Arapahoe, and 50% of Douglas

Where are you getting your results from? I'm still stuck at 1% at MSNBZZZzzz.

286 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:26:32pm

The GOP. Doesn't get women's votes. Doesn't get the Jewish vote. Doesn't get the black vote. Doesn't get the Hispanic vote. Doesn't get the educated vote. Doesn't get the environmentalist vote. Doesn't get the atheist vote. Doesn't get the Muslim vote.

They're lost baby!

287 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:26:52pm

Hmm... okay. CNN just refreshed and I see Romney is now ahead by 2 votes in CO. Nevertheless, at "11% precincts reporting", the total number of votes are 359+357+166+84 = 966 in a state with 5 million people. And we thought it was depressed turnout in NV. ROFLMAO!

288 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:26:58pm

re: #276 Kragar

TEQUILA!

You're welcome:

289 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:27:36pm

re: #205 ProGunLiberal

Now, I'll admit, that's a nic I could consider swiping :D Ah, I'll just go to the VFW gun show tomorrow instead. LOL!

290 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:27:57pm

re: #285 BongCrodny

CNN

re: #287 Robert O.

It is hilariously horrific. :D

291 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:27:58pm

re: #232 insert topical thread related name here ________

As opposed to Gingrich, Paul, Bachmann, Perry and Cain?

One of many this time around.

292 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:28:51pm

re: #265 Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse

Garbage - Special

[Video]

Crimson Skies stuff.

293 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:29:15pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

Colorado has fallen for Rick Santorum, big time. We're down the rabbit hole, people.

I'd be interested in knowing the turnout - actual as well as what they expected. If like Nevada, this could be a very dangerous trend for the GOP.

294 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:29:17pm

re: #290 ProGunLiberal

CNN

re: #287 Robert O.

It is hilariously horrific. :D

Ha! CNN's headline is "Show me Santorum."

I kinda hope that was on purpose.

295 Mocking Jay  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:29:27pm

This is excellent news for John McCain.

296 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:30:26pm

Obama wins again! Woot!

297 Atlas Fails  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:30:40pm

re: #287 Robert O.

Hmm... okay. CNN just refreshed and I see Romney is now ahead by 2 votes in CO. Nevertheless, at "11% precincts reporting", the total number of votes are 359+357+166+84 = 966 in a state with 5 million people. And we thought it was depressed turnout in NV. ROFLMAO!

Changed my display name once more for when Romney is inevitably nominated. Rick Perry is sooo November.

298 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:30:50pm

re: #294 BongCrodny

Ha! CNN's headline is "Show me Santorum."

I kinda hope that was on purpose.

I saw it a few minutes ago and immediately went LOL :-)

299 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:30:51pm

re: #294 BongCrodny

Ha! CNN's headline is "Show me Santorum."

I kinda hope that was on purpose.

Missouri is the Show Me State. So yeah, they meant it.

They just didn't think it through. Haha.

300 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:31:22pm

This means Romney can't hold swing states!

301 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:31:38pm

Colorado is coming out alot slower than Minnesota.

I think Colorado is doing dumps of large amounts, while Minnesota is doing it as the results come in.

302 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:31:51pm
303 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:32:26pm

Hey, Kragar?
I'm thinking of getting into WH40k.
Any good web sources before I decide?

304 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:32:57pm

Santorum just won Minnesota, CNN Projects.

305 Mocking Jay  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:33:11pm

re: #303 Tyranid Hive Tyrant

Hey, Kragar?
I'm thinking of getting into WH40k.
Any good web sources before I decide?

I'd start with Jobs.com to find a way to pay for it all.

306 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:33:25pm

This has to be a pretty bad night for Romney even if he ekes out a narrow victory in Colorado (with very low turnout). Look at the map in Missouri! Santorum has won *every* county. The "front runner" is being beaten by 30% by Santorum in both Missouri and Minnesota.

307 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:33:29pm

Mmkay, I just added some code to break up long strings of uninterrupted text in the display name, to keep things from overflowing and getting messy. The boundary is 32 characters.

308 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:33:51pm

re: #305 WhoLetTheDogsOutOfTheKennelOnTop OfTheCar?

I start with Jobs.com to find a way to pay for it all.

I'm doing well now.
:P

309 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:34:32pm

re: #307 Charles Johnson

No more Welsh name tests, then.

310 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:35:02pm

re: #306 Robert O.

The MO contest thought is "non-binding", is it not? Therefore, the upper echelon of the party in MO can make sure Romney gets some delegates, no doubt.

311 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:35:51pm

re: #306 Robert O.

However, so much of the state hasn't come in, I don't think we can say one way or the other.

Especially the heart of the Republican Party in Colorado, Colorado Springs. I think if COS goes to Santorum, so does the state.

312 prairiefire  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:35:53pm

re: #219 freetoken

Two words: Colorado Springs.

Well, he has support in the rest of the state too, but for some reason years ago Colorado Springs was anointed as some magickal ground for magickal thinking, and it's never been the same since then.

I think it started with Alistair Crowley.

313 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:36:40pm

re: #286 Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse

But all those sensible Scandinavians in MN, with above average children, voting for Santorum!

314 SpaceJesus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:36:52pm

32. The same number of buildings blown up by Muhammed right after he authored the Qu'ran. Ugh!

315 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:37:27pm

And, speaking of creationist, here is today's facepalm:

Who’s calling creationism backward?

Those who favor the scientific explanation to the origins of the universe owe 90 percent of the American people an apology. For weeks in The Star they have unfairly labeled creationists “out-of-date,” “anti-intellectual” and “uneducated.” However, if science has given a definitive answer to the origins of the universe, why do 90 percent of the American public still practice religion and find religious answers plausible?

Why are we afraid of religious answers? In his Feb. 7 My View, Duane S. Nickell, president of the Hoosier Science Teachers Association, wants us to believe that an answer like “God made it” to the question of “why is grass green” is an uneducated, anti-intellectual answer. However, if the child asks, “Where did the molecules come from to make grass green or the sky blue?” the evolutionist would have to answer “Purely by chance.” Can science tell me what chance looks like? Now who sounds uneducated and anti-intellectual?

Let’s not be afraid of religious answers for the classroom. When thousands of scientists over the past 30 years have moved forward (backward?) to a theory of intelligent design, it seems creationism is not as anti-intellectual and uneducated as we think.

Rev. E. Paul Albrecht

Indianapolis

Ok, I give...

316 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:37:51pm

Looks like Brent Bozell (among others) thinks that the birth control issue will be a winner for Republicans.

"Should the Catholic Church be driven out of providing charitable services in the District of Columbia because it won't give in to secular bigotry? Should the Catholic Church find itself discriminated against by the Obama administration on key delivery of services because of the bias and the bigotry of the administration?"
[Link: www.creators.com...]

317 Mocking Jay  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:38:19pm

re: #315 freetoken

Science gave a definitive answer to the origin of the universe and I missed it???

318 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:38:51pm

re: #310 freetoken

The MO contest thought is "non-binding", is it not? Therefore, the upper echelon of the party in MO can make sure Romney gets some delegates, no doubt.

I am not sure how "binding" MN and CO are either. But it is clear a *lot* of Republican hate Romney. I had expected Romney to at least win the cities (i.e., areas that usually go Democrat) of Minneapolis/St Paul, Kansas City and St Louis. But it appears the Twin Cities metro is split between Ron Paul and Santorum, while the Santorum has everything in MO.

We still have to wait for the data dump on CO. I am guessing Boulder might go to Ron Paul. Colorado Springs will be Santorum. And Romney probably has Denver. If Romney fails to win Denver big (which is Democrat area anyway), then he is in huge trouble. Santorum is probably sweeping all the rural areas.

319 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:39:30pm

re: #316 jaunte

Looks like Brent Bozell (among others) thinks that the birth control issue will be a winner for Republicans.

So Bozell is a weapons-grade moron. Good to know.

Outlawing birth control is not a winning issue, no matter how the wingnuts and religious fanatics want to try and make it one.

320 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:39:37pm
Can science tell me what chance looks like? Now who sounds uneducated and anti-intellectual?

Blue-eyed White Jesus approves of this sentiment.

321 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:39:40pm

Test.

322 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:39:52pm

re: #317 JasonA

I'm puzzling over why he'd go to an "evolutionist" to answer the question as to why the sky is blue, unless he's admitting that every person with an understanding of optics by consequence has to be an "evolutionist".

323 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:39:57pm

re: #315 freetoken

And, speaking of creationist, here is today's facepalm:

Who’s calling creationism backward?

Ok, I give...

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324 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:40:01pm

re: #265 Occupy Killgore Trout's Greenhouse

Garbage - Special

[Video]

BoB: Aces High. (Since we have an aircraft theme going)

325 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:41:10pm

re: #314 Pamela Geller

32. The same number of buildings blown up by Muhammed right after he authored the Qu'ran. Ugh!

LOL, SJ...

326 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:41:33pm

re: #315 freetoken

However, if the child asks, “Where did the molecules come from to make grass green or the sky blue?” the evolutionist would have to answer “Purely by chance."

It's a plausible story for reverends who didn't take physics.

327 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:41:33pm

re: #322 freetoken

I'm puzzling over why he'd go to an "evolutionist" to answer the question as to why the sky is blue, unless he's admitting that every person with an understanding of optics by consequence has to be an "evolutionist".

Maybe he's super-pedantic and is really asking why the human eye perceives certain wavelengths, e.g., why not infrared?

Or not.

328 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:42:03pm

re: #323 Luther is pissed off

Turtles, Turtles, Turtles,...

All the way down.

329 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:42:13pm

re: #318 Robert O.

Newt Gingrich won a single county thus far.

Really though, Santorum only needs to run up votes against Romney.

Also, Fort Collins will go for Paul. Fort Collins is home to Colorado State, and some of my closest friends.

FOCO is a much nicer place than COS. If I have to stay in FOCO my whole life, it would be near paradise.

330 Interesting Times  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:43:04pm

Well, I finally got upgraded by Twitter to the new look. I can haz tweet-embedding capabilities now?

331 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:44:12pm

re: #329 ProGunLiberal

As for Pueblo, I'm not familiar enough with that city to say. It is a Blue City though.

My Look at it-

Denver-Romney
Boulder- Paul
Ft. Collins- Paul
Colorado Springs- Santorum
Pueblo-?
Rural Areas-Santorum

332 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:44:26pm

re: #307 Charles Johnson

Mmkay, I just added some code to break up long strings of uninterrupted text in the display name, to keep things from overflowing and getting messy. The boundary is 32 characters.

Wouldn't it be more controllable to allow a display name to stay only with the posts made under it, rather than change all? If a display name is made to be relevant to a post, and one changes to something else then the point is lost.

333 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:45:09pm

I expect Gingrich and Paul to suddenly start focusing their attacks on Santorum.

334 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:46:11pm

re: #333 BongCrodny

I expect Gingrich and Paul to suddenly start focusing their attacks on Santorum.

Paul maybe. Newt's ego won't let him go after anyone but Mitt Romney.

335 Mocking Jay  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:46:25pm

re: #333 BongCrodny

I expect Gingrich and Paul to suddenly start focusing their attacks on Santorum.

I don't think Gingrich is going to make a serious attempt to attack anyone not named Mitt Romney.

336 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:46:30pm

re: #333 BongCrodny

I expect Gingrich and Paul to suddenly start focusing their attacks on Santorum.

Except they can't touch the most obvious one, of being an ignorant theocrat.

337 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:46:50pm

Colorado's vote reporting sucks massive donkey cajones.

338 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:47:48pm

re: #316 jaunte

Looks like Brent Bozell (among others) thinks that the birth control issue will be a winner for Republicans.

And the regular American Public (not me or my peeps) say WTF. Out of touch. Loser proposition. Good fucking luck idiot men.

339 Mocking Jay  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:48:40pm

Santorum on the podium.

340 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:48:53pm

re: #336 Luther is pissed off

Except they can't touch the most obvious one, of being an ignorant theocrat.

On the contrary, I suspect we'll see a dive to be more Santorum-like from the other candidates re/ social conservatism.

OTOH, there's probably angles of attack relating to Santorum's money handling.

341 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:49:00pm

re: #339 WhoLetTheDogsOutOfTheKennelOnTop OfTheCar?

Santorum on the podium.

Call a janitor.

342 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:49:37pm

WTF Colorado? Y U report so slow? Right now they've got 11% reporting and Mitt Romney is ahead by 2 votes:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

343 Mocking Jay  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:49:39pm

re: #341 Kragar

Call a janitor.

It's past their bedtime.

344 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:49:51pm

re: #336 Naso Tang

Except they can't touch the most obvious one, of being an ignorant theocrat.

THEY can't, but their superPACs (with which they don't coordinate in any way, wink wink) can touch it as much as they want.

345 Mocking Jay  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:50:06pm

re: #342 Jazzy Ponytail

Yeah, been like that for a while now.

346 SpaceJesus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:50:11pm

Which is more embarrassing for the GOP tonight?

That Santorum is going to win Minnesota, or that Paul is placing 2nd there?

347 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:50:26pm

re: #343 WhoLetTheDogsOutOfTheKennelOnTop OfTheCar?

It's past their bedtime.

Lazy little bastard. He should be working overtime. It builds character!

348 Mocking Jay  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:50:31pm

re: #346 Pamela Geller

Which is more embarrassing for the GOP tonight?

That Santorum is going to win Minnesota, or that Paul is placing 2nd there?

Yes.

349 jamesfirecat  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:50:35pm

You know, it's really depressing how this entire Komen thing came up, and seems to be falling apart during a period when the Daily Show and Colbert Report haven't been able to do a signle episode....

350 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:50:49pm

re: #343 WhoLetTheDogsOutOfTheKennelOnTop OfTheCar?

That's gonna smell in the morning.

re: #342 Jazzy Ponytail

I know. I think they are trying to release county results, or at least large portions of counties.

351 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:51:14pm

re: #346 Pamela Geller

Which is more embarrassing for the GOP tonight?

That Santorum is going to win Minnesota, or that Paul is placing 2nd there?

Faulty premise. The GOP is incapable of being embarrassed.

352 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:51:26pm

re: #329 ProGunLiberal

Newt Gingrich won a single county thus far.

Really though, Santorum only needs to run up votes against Romney.

Also, Fort Collins will go for Paul. Fort Collins is home to Colorado State, and some of my closest friends.

FOCO is a much nicer place than COS. If I have to stay in FOCO my whole life, it would be near paradise.

I have been to Colorado twice. The last time I was there, I went hiking 10,000 ft up Rocky Mountain National Park in January, and I stayed in Fort Collins :-)

Anyway, if I had to pick a part of Colorado to live, it would have to be Boulder, because that's where the Technology jobs are. Plus there is a very good university, in one of the more highly educated areas in the US. The proximity to the outdoors is a real bonus.

For the ultimate paradise, I will have to go back to the last country I lived in prior to the US. Try southwestern New Zealand (use Google Images on Queenstown, Te Anau, Wanaka, Milford Sound, Fjordland National Park). Now, that's truly heaven on earth if you have already earned your money and looking for the perfect location to relax and retire.

353 Atlas Fails  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:51:48pm

re: #327 negativ

Maybe he's super-pedantic and is really asking why the human eye perceives certain wavelengths, e.g., why not infrared?

Or not.

Yes, but notice how a banana fits perfectly in your hand!

354 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:51:58pm

re: #346 Pamela Geller

Which is more embarrassing for the GOP tonight?

That Santorum is going to win Minnesota, or that Paul is placing 2nd there?

Trick question. Newt Gringrich is a sucking void of shame that makes other sources indetectable.

355 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:53:05pm

re: #352 Robert O.

CSU isn't a bad university either, and the town has a fair amount of tech presence.

Team FOCO!

356 Mocking Jay  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:53:17pm

Obama's the one who thinks he knows better how we should live our lives, Rick?

357 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:55:10pm

re: #349 jamesfirecat

You know, it's really depressing how this entire Komen thing came up, and seems to be falling apart during a period when the Daily Show and Colbert Report haven't been able to do a signle episode...

I call it one of the biggest news stories of the year. Women charity defunds women.

The biggest corporate fuck up ever.

358 erik_t  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:56:23pm

Local media has called Minnesota for Frothy Mix.

Jesus.

359 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:57:02pm

Last thing America needs is another Republican in the White House. And another useless war with 10,000s killed for no good reason. The GOP is like the Pavlov's dog of ideology. We made that mistake twice with GWB and the fake Iraq War. We can't repeat that mistake again. That's one of the reasons we're deep in the hole right now.

360 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:57:32pm

Sorry about that last post.

Check out this awesome book?

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

361 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:57:33pm

Tim Pawlenty's endorsement sure carried a lot of weight, didn't it?

Hee hee hee hee hee.

362 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 7:58:08pm

re: #356 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

Obama's the one who thinks he knows better how we should live our lives, Rick?

Rick is just passing along the commandments of Zardoz.

Anyway, he's not taking away anything from "real" people: just women, non-Christians, and foreigners.

363 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:00:29pm

@thinkprogress
Man behind Santorum's right shoulder now is Foster Friess, the billionaire behind his Super PAC pic.twitter.com/JVuulBgZ

364 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:01:41pm

Somebody needs to kick Colorado in the ass. They are not reporting, and haven't in 20+ minutes.

365 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:02:36pm

Foster Friess:

- Friess was instrumental in pouring money into the political campaign of presidential hopeful Rick Santorum in 2012 by way of a Super PAC called the "Red White and Blue Fund" he told NBC News. He also donated $250,000 to Santorum's failed re-election campaign in 2006, and at least that amount to the Republican Governors' Association.[4] In the wake of the New Hampshire Republican primary, 2012, and before the South Carolina primary, Friess told Politico that he was "putting together a challenge grant to encourage other wealthy donors to give to the Red, White and Blue Fund, ... he said [the fund] received a $1 million check" the day after the New Hampshire vote.[5]

-Freiss reportedly has put more than $3M into conservative commentator Tucker Carlson's The Daily Caller website.[4]

-He was acknowledged at the privately held Koch seminar in June 2011 in Vail, Colorado for donating at least $1 million to Koch-related causes.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

366 erik_t  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:03:05pm

re: #361 BongCrodny

Tim Pawlenty's endorsement sure carried a lot of weight, didn't it?

Hee hee hee hee hee.

One could reasonably expect TIm Pawlenty's endorsement to carry strong inverse weight in Minnesota.

367 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:03:41pm

Hey all!

Ok, I was going to ask if anyone uses the Timeline on facebook, but I don't think I can handle too much change at once.

How is everyone?

368 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:04:03pm

re: #367 ggt

Hey all!

Ok, I was going to ask if anyone uses the Timeline on facebook, but I don't think I can handle too much change at once.

How is everyone?

RAWR!

369 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:04:52pm

re: #368 Tyranid Hive Tyrant

RAWR!

You don't fool me!

I interpret your RAWR as a meow!

:0

370 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:04:54pm

re: #363 jaunte

Wanna-be Shadow-President. That's what these billionaires (Friess, Koch, Adelson, etc.) are.

371 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:06:03pm

Laws that billionaires don't like are just 'goofy!'

Friess called the FEC rules “goofy government regulations” but said he’s not worried about being targeted by a coordination complaint, explaining he neither knows “what the [Santorum] campaign is doing” nor tells Santorum “what I’m doing or what I’m thinking” about the super PAC. Nor is he worried about scrutiny from Santorum opponents, he said, proclaiming “so far, I’m getting a big kick out of” the attention brought by his donations to the pro-Santorum super PAC. [Link: www.politico.com...]

372 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:06:22pm

Obligatory Cuteness for the evening.

373 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:06:24pm

re: #367 ggt

Hey all!

Ok, I was going to ask if anyone uses the Timeline on facebook, but I don't think I can handle too much change at once.

How is everyone?

Everyone uses the Timeline feature on Facebook. FB pushed it to all users, IIRC. I'm still tweaking mine.

374 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:07:11pm

re: #373 Jazzy Ponytail

Everyone uses the Timeline feature on Facebook. FB pushed it to all users, IIRC. I'm still tweaking mine.

so, you are telling me I need to keep up with the Joneses?

375 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:07:41pm

re: #367 ggt

I use it. It is just fine.

376 Charleston Chew  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:09:27pm

Santorum takes Minnesota and Missouri? How'd he get so popular all of a sudden?

377 Mocking Jay  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:09:59pm

re: #370 freetoken

Wanna-be Shadow-President. That's what these billionaires (Friess, Koch, Adelson, etc.) are.

You forgot Soros!

378 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:10:39pm

Oh, come the fuck on Colorado!!

Missouri is at 98%, Minnesota is at 45%.

Meanwhile you have been stuck at 11% for about 35-40 minutes!!!!

379 The Optimist  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:10:40pm

Back to basics. Let's see what name appears.

380 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:11:05pm

re: #367 ggt

Hey all!

Ok, I was going to ask if anyone uses the Timeline on facebook, but I don't think I can handle too much change at once.

How is everyone?

Fighting the MAN (cause the cat told me to!)

381 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:11:06pm

re: #376 Charleston Chew

Santorum takes Minnesota and Missouri? How'd he get so popular all of a sudden?

He didn't. The base just hates Mitt and Newt wasn't on the ballot in Missouri, IIRC.

382 fizzlogic  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:11:21pm

Cool, I finally have a display name that matches my avatar.

383 The Optimist  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:11:55pm

cool, One day I can be Fidel, then Raoul, then Hugo, then Amendinajad, then back to Venezuela Lover.

384 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:12:11pm

re: #380 Occupy: LGF (Stabby)

Fighting the MAN (cause the cat told me to!)

It's good you obey your cat, the consequences of not doing so are drastic.

385 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:12:24pm

Signing off peeps. Whales to kill. See ya later!

386 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:12:56pm

Santorum just said this gem:

Santorum to Obama: "You better start listening to the voice of the people." [Link: t.co...] #CNNElections" - @cnnbrk

Guess he hasn't heard that the nation likes Birth Control. We don't want a Theocracy here, Frothy.

387 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:13:08pm

re: #384 ggt

It's good you obey your cat, the consequences of not doing so are drastic.

My current avatar quote is not quite a joke.

388 Charleston Chew  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:13:44pm

re: #376 Charleston Chew

Santorum takes Minnesota and Missouri? How'd he get so popular all of a sudden?

Nate Silver has the answer:

As we mentioned a moment ago, Rick Santorum has spent considerably more time in Minnesota, Colorado and Missouri than his Republican rivals. He had also been very active in Iowa, something that may have helped him to close strongly there.

But is there systematic evidence that candidates who more time in a state tend to beat their polls?

I looked at the results through the first five early voting states this year, comparing a candidate's actual percentage of the vote versus their polling-based forecast. I then added another variable which represented the share of appearances that the candidate had made in the state in the last 30 days of the campaign, according to the Washington Post's candidate tracker.

There is some modest evidence for the theory that candidate appearances can help a candidate to beat his polls. The coefficient for the appearances variable is positive and verges on being statistically significant. Candidates who spent more time in a state tend to get the benefit of the doubt on election night, perhaps giving them an advantage of 2 to 4 percentage points above and beyond any benefit that is already reflected in the polls. The effect isn't huge, but I'm inclined to think there is something there - I've also found this variable to be useful when conducting such analyses in the past, such as on the 2008 Democratic primaries.

The most recent example is Ron Paul, who made more appearances in Nevada than the other candidates and who beat his polling forecast by about 4 points there. Meanwhile, candidates who pull out of a state early in an effort to lower expectations an sometimes take some additional punishment from voters.

- Nate Silver

[Link: fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com...]

389 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:14:21pm

ThinkProgress @thinkprogress

UPDATE: Romney did not just lose Minnesota, he's going to finish 3rd. With 50% in, he's trailing Santorum by 30, Paul by 10

390 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:14:39pm

There better be more results from Colorado by 1030.

391 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:15:19pm

re: #386 ProGunLiberal

Santorum just said this gem:

Guess he hasn't heard that the nation likes Birth Control. We don't want a Theocracy here, Frothy.

@AriBerman
55 % of Americans support Obama admin policy on healthcare & contraceptives, including 58 % of Catholics
[Link: www.slate.com...]

392 simoom  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:18:34pm

[Link: nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com...]

Conservative and centrist congressional Democrats are joining the chorus of voices urging President Barack Obama to reverse or modify a decision made by Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius to not exempt health insurance plans sponsored by religious-affiliated employers from the requirement to provide contraception as part of their basic benefit package.

...

Sen. Bob Casey, D- Pa., said Tuesday morning he hadn’t yet gotten a response to his letter to Obama asking him to reverse Sebelius’s decision, but “it’s something I’m sure we’ll be having further discussions with the administration about,” he said,

...

“It’s a question of whether or not we’re going to allow -- as we should -- an institution that has a religious mission to make decisions that are consistent with their faith tradition,” Casey said. “Unfortunately what this does is impose upon them rules that I don’t think we should impose upon an institution that has a faith mission.”

Casey said he wants to preserve women’s access to contraception. “There’s a way to do this, and not run afoul of the religious freedoms that I think an institution should be able to exercise,” he said. “I think we can get this balance right … It means working out a compromise that makes sense to everybody.”

...

Another Democratic senator up for re-election this November, Sen. Claire McCaskill of Missouri said Tuesday afternoon, she didn’t know if the administration would change its position.

“I think they are going to look at various options. I haven’t talked to anyone in the administration about this … about whether or not there’s a way to find something similar to what they’ve done in Hawaii where there’s a rider” -- an add-on to an insurance policy -- and “the costs are so de minimis that it doesn’t in any way punish the women who want to access birth control.”

She added, “I’m hopeful they can work out a situation with riders, like they have in Hawaii, that might work out in these instances. Keep in mind there are a lot of Catholic hospitals and universities that are dealing with this right now and have been for a number of years.”

She said those opposed abortion “need to quit putting barriers” to women’s access to birth control. “We should be trying very hard to give women universal access to birth control” without them having to pay for it themselves.

...

Another Democratic Senate candidate, Rep. Joe Donnelly, D- Ind., who also voted for the Affordable Care Act, said he was “puzzled” by the Sebelius decision. “I’ve sent my position to the White House.”

Meh... Reading the tea leaves here it feels like we're possibly headed toward some sort of modification where the free contraception is still provided, but as a gov't addon rider? I really wonder if such a thing is even possible without additional legislation though. Oh, and I predict even after such a change the USCCB would still be pissed & ranting.

393 Mocking Jay  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:18:37pm

so tired of hearing Ron Paul speak...

394 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:19:11pm

re: #388 Charleston Chew

Nate Silver has the answer:

[Link: fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com...]

Another theory could be that primary states outside the South will favor the establishment candidate Romney (and for the South itself, the establishment is Gingrich). In Caucus states, you have to actually make an effort to spend time to vote. The lukewarm Romney supporters stay home, while the Paul and Santorum supporters turn out.

We could also see a "regional" pattern, with Gingrich winning the South, Santorum winning the Mid-West and other social conservative states outside the South. Romney wins in the states where there are more "economic conservatives" than "social conservatives", and he also wins the states where he has natural advantages (NV, UT, MI). Ron Paul does well in his particular demographic, but gets only 10% to 25% everywhere he goes, and ends up winning nothing.

395 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:19:16pm

re: #349 jamesfirecat

You know, it's really depressing how this entire Komen thing came up, and seems to be falling apart during a period when the Daily Show and Colbert Report haven't been able to do a signle episode...

It's depressing because my family has given much support to Komen the past few years; then they go political like this. Depressing is the word.

396 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:19:17pm

We're talking about a state where the Republicans think that "God" intervenes in football games.

397 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:20:46pm

I'm sure the wingnuts will find a reason to be outraged:

398 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:21:39pm

Colorado just updated (26% reporting) and now Frothy is ahead.

399 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:22:29pm

Yeah, whatev.
Image: 20120131.jpg

400 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:23:04pm

A few thoughts.

Re: Birth Control. So if we extend the right to Christian Scientists that the Conservatives want to extend to Catholics, then by default, any company can claim that it's against their religious tenants to let people get medical treatment, therefore they won't include any medical treatment to their insurance policies.

Second, I didn't realize that the new requirements forced Catholics to take birth control pills against their will... Oh wait, it doesn't. The corporation doesn't have religion, people do. (Despite the best efforts to claim that Corperations are People).

401 Charleston Chew  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:23:35pm

re: #397 Jazzy Ponytail

I'm shocked to discover that Sonia Manzano (Maria) is still on Sesame Street. She's been on that show for over 40 years.

402 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:23:57pm

Two Words: "Brokered Convention".

403 Kronocide  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:26:10pm

re: #398 Robert O.

Colorado just updated (26% reporting) and now Frothy is ahead.

The Froth always rises to the top.

404 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:26:27pm

re: #402 bloodstar

Two Words: "Brokered Convention".

We should be so lucky. That would be worth watching.

405 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:26:33pm

Speaking of billionaires and those inconvenient laws:

Adelson Casino Empire Investigated for Mob Ties, Prostitution

The Securities and Exchange Commission and Department of Justice have been investigating allegations of ties between Sheldon Adelson’s Macau casino and Chinese organized crime rings and prostitution for the past year. ABC News reports a former Sands Casino executive has charged that the Asian business operation relied on the Chinese triads which organized junkets for “high roller” gamblers and prostitution to service their “other” needs. It reports that on the same day Adelson arrived for a major business meeting at the Chinese enclave 100 prostitutes were arrested within the hotel. The charges are being investigated under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which governs crimes like corporate bribery.

Sex slaves for the GOP!

406 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:27:56pm

re: #405 jaunte

Speaking of billionaires and those inconvenient laws:

Adelson Casino Empire Investigated for Mob Ties, Prostitution

Sex slaves for the GOP!

And no birth control pills or contraception for them, either!

///

407 Petero1818  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:27:58pm

re: #404 Jazzy Ponytail

We should be so lucky. That would be worth watching.

Doing it Canadian style!

408 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:28:23pm
409 JamesWI  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:28:33pm

Rick Santorum......LOL.

I think that about covers it for the night.

410 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:29:28pm

re: #402 bloodstar

Two Words: "Brokered Convention".

This is becoming more likely after tonight. If Romney's rivals can pick up states and delegates regularly when the vote is outside Romney's comfort zone, and the establishment lack the muscle to get him an absolute majority in delegates, someone is going to play kingmaker. There is no reason for any of Romney's rivals to drop out now. Yes - I still expect Romney to win the largest share of the vote and be the nominee, but someone could wind up with quite a bit of influence in Tampa.

411 simoom  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:30:10pm

re: #400 bloodstar

Yeah, it's kind of to be amazing to be demanding religious exemptions for your massive, essentially secular business, where have tens (hundreds?) of thousands of employees of every faith. I think the stat I saw in recent articles was that Catholic healthcare businesses account for 1/6 of the healthcare provided in the country.

412 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:32:17pm

re: #408 Killgore Trout

It's a game of inches.

413 Petero1818  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:33:33pm

re: #404 Jazzy Ponytail

We should be so lucky. That would be worth watching.

Drill Baby Drill!

414 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:33:34pm

re: #409 JamesWI

Rick Santorum...LOL.

I think that about covers it for the night.

Hard to believe but it's true. This really is a backwards country. Tried to explain to people last summer. But if you go out on a road trip you'd see how backwards we really are.

415 Charleston Chew  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:33:45pm

re: #410 Robert O.

This is becoming more likely after tonight. If Romney's rivals can pick up states and delegates regularly when the vote is outside Romney's comfort zone, and the establishment lack the muscle to get him an absolute majority in delegates, someone is going to play kingmaker. There is no reason for any of Romney's rivals to drop out now. Yes - I still expect Romney to win the largest share of the vote and be the nominee, but someone could wind up with quite a bit of influence in Tampa.

Santorum in the no. 2 spot on a Romney ticket maybe?

416 Petero1818  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:35:59pm

re: #415 Charleston Chew

Santorum in the no. 2 spot on a Romney ticket maybe?

Only if he comes in to the thing in 3rd or 4th. If he is second he could win with newt or Paul's delegates.

417 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:36:19pm

re: #415 Charleston Chew

Santorum in the no. 2 spot on a Romney ticket maybe?

Definitely. If he does, he could become the "male Sarah Palin" doing for Romney what she did for McCain.

418 Petero1818  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:37:33pm

re: #417 Robert O.

Definitely. If he does, he could become the "male Sarah Palin" doing for Romney what she did for McCain.

By that you mean helping him lose by scaring independents.

419 darthstar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:43:28pm

You want to know what Mitt Romney is doing right now?

Bradying.

420 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:43:41pm

Home county still hasn't come in.

Nate Silver said that if Romney could win the Denver Metro by some amount, he would be able to to carry the state.

Romney is losing Adams by 10%.

421 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:44:37pm

lets try this

422 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:44:46pm

awesome

423 darthstar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:45:12pm

re: #421 Listen To Monster Magnet

lets try this

nice nic.

424 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:46:46pm

re: #413 insert topical thread related name here ________

Drill Baby Drill!

We are currently producing more oil than we have in many years. It must be Obama's fault.

425 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:46:49pm

re: #423 darthstar

nice nic.

i built a cage around the sun

426 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:48:46pm

re: #425 Listen To Monster Magnet

i built a cage around the sun today

I like Larry Niven and Dyson too.

427 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:49:49pm

From Five Thirty-Eight:

A FiveThirtyEight reader, Matthew H., stepped into the shoes of a Romney campaign strategist, and made this prediction:

For the next few primaries (Arizona, Michigan and Super Tuesday), Romney is going to take no chances on relaxing his attack. And he is going to spend lots of money to advertise. I guess Romney figured that these contests were relatively low-profile and low-impact, and that even if he slipped a little, it wouldn't matter. But he isn't just slipping a little, he is getting his entire narrative of "nevability" taken apart in three geographically diverse, and important states...two of which he won in 2008.

So I expect the next few weeks to see strong negative attacks on Santorum, and Gingrich, across Arizona, Michigan and many of the Super Tuesday states...and since it cost over 10 million to advertise in Florida for a week, how much money and goodwill is Romney going to have to spend to get back to "inevability" in Michigan and Ohio?
If that prediction holds true, the Romney campaign will have plenty of time before the next contests to hammer away at its rivals. Arizona and Michigan hold their primaries on Feb. 28.

- Micah Cohen

Yep. I agree that is what Romney will do. He has to dump money now to stem the haemorrhage and get back to "inevitability" a.s.a.p.

Now that Santorum is rising again (wink, wink), be sure to log into your Google Plus account and "+1" the top result in Google search.

428 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:50:23pm

Arapahoe County is now 67% in.

And only 189 votes for a population of 572k. WTH is going on?

429 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:51:46pm

Oh Charles,
Re: the new nickname feature, would it make sense to include a timer that limits nickname updates to once a week or something similar?

For better or worse, I tend to lurk a lot, and when I surf comments, I like reading in a flow, stopping to hover is very mildly annoying.

It's not a big deal, but I figure I'd give some feedback.

430 Petero1818  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:52:29pm

re: #428 ProGunLiberal

Arapahoe County is now 67% in.

And only 189 votes for a population of 572k. WTH is going on?

It could be that Obama's war on Christians has them scared to come out of their foxholes.

431 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:53:01pm

re: #419 darthstar

You want to know what Mitt Romney is doing right now?

Bradying.

Am I showing my age if I tell you my first thought was this?

432 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:53:21pm

Nate Silver:

Although indications are that turnout is down in the Denver suburbs, where Mr. Romney runs strongly, the same is not true in outlying areas of the state, where he is losing by a wide margin to Rick Santorum.

Some 16 counties outside of the Denver area had reported all of their results as of 11:40 P.M. In total, there were 1,512 votes in those counties, up slightly from 1,480 in 2008.

Still seems like low turnout.

433 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:53:49pm

re: #426 Red Sea Desjardini Tang

I like Larry Niven and Dyson too.

Totally impractical and probably impossible.

434 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:53:55pm

re: #428 ProGunLiberal

To give you all an idea how fucked up that is, Kit Carson County, at the Central portion of the Border with Kansas, has 100% counted. It has 212 votes.

Kit Carson County has a population of 8,011.

435 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:54:18pm

re: #432 jaunte

Low is the understatement of the year.

436 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:54:58pm

Turnout is depressed.

437 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:55:23pm

Nate Silver has now mentioned turnout is low in the counties Romney win, and high in the areas he does not. This confirms commonsense that people who vote Romney are lukewarm in their conviction, but people who vote against Romney are not. The only state where turnout is higher in 2012 than 2008 is South Carolina, where Gingrich came from behind to win.

All in all, good news for Democrats.

438 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:55:36pm

re: #433 ggt

Totally impractical and probably impossible.

Make up your mind. One or the other.

439 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:56:37pm

re: #437 Robert O.

I personally think the results will look like this:

1st-Santorum
2nd-Romney
3rd-Paul
4th-Gingrich

440 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:59:00pm

re: #438 Red Sea Desjardini Tang

Make up your mind. One or the other.

No, I think as it is written it is correct.

:0

441 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:59:50pm

re: #433 ggt

Totally impractical and probably impossible.

The one I built says otherwise.
:P

442 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:59:59pm

re: #439 ProGunLiberal

I personally think the results will look like this:

1st-Santorum
2nd-Romney
3rd-Paul
4th-Gingrich

That is my guess too.

I am wondering how much does the Mormon population spill from Utah into western Colorado. That could be the difference between Romney winning or losing the state.

443 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:00:51pm

re: #441 Tyranid Hive Tyrant

The one I built says otherwise.
:P

Well, it would be easier if the inhabitants were undead.

444 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:01:32pm

re: #442 Robert O.

Don't think it will be enough.

Wondering how my Republican Friend I have talked about alot recently on here has voted in that Caucus. She's up in Larimer.

445 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:03:44pm

re: #444 ProGunLiberal

More results just popped in. It looks like there is some bleed-over from Utah into Western Colorado. But not enough to save compensate for the relatively more populated East.

Counties in question are: Eagle and Routt

446 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:05:14pm

@thinkprogress
Maybe its not such a good idea to say you aren't concerned about poor people.

Nahh, that's not it.

447 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:07:13pm

re: #446 jaunte

@thinkprogress
Maybe its not such a good idea to say you aren't concerned about poor people.

Nahh, that's not it.

DAMN ACORN!

448 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:08:06pm

re: #444 ProGunLiberal

Can Lib-Con Relationships work?

449 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:08:34pm

re: #448 ProGunLiberal

Can Lib-Con Relationships work?

Yep.

450 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:09:18pm

Hannity: Bin Laden Strike "Wouldn't Have Happened" If Obama "Had His Way"
Good thing Obama wasn't PotUS when that went down.
Wait a sec...

451 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:11:16pm

re: #450 Varek Raith

I like Obama being the Slaughterer of Terrorists.

The only thing he isn't doing that could make him more fearsome to those fuckers is what the Ottoman Sultan did to the King of the First Saudi State.

452 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:11:49pm

re: #450 Varek Raith

Hannity: Bin Laden Strike "Wouldn't Have Happened" If Obama "Had His Way"
Good thing Obama wasn't PotUS when that went down.
Wait a sec...

Because Barack Obama wasn't laughing and busting Trump's balls at the WHCD knowing that the raid was going to happen.

453 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:12:34pm

re: #440 ggt

No, I think as it is written it is correct.

:0

Not impractical nor impossible. You need to think only of a micron thick cage for the most part.

Whether it is the most practical solution for a given need is however a valid question.

Newt might disagree.

454 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:13:53pm

re: #453 Red Sea Desjardini Tang

Not impractical nor impossible. You need to think only of a micron thick cage for the most part.

Whether it is the most practical solution for a given need is however a valid question.

Newt might disagree.

Put some jump engines on it and jump it into hyperspace!
Why?
Because I can!

455 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:14:49pm

It's midnight and time to go, but I bet the stalkers are spending a lot more time figuring out what is being said by who tonight.

456 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:15:12pm

re: #455 Red Sea Desjardini Tang

It's midnight and time to go, but I bet the stalkers are spending a lot more time figuring out what is being said by who tonight.

Right you are, Killgore.

457 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:15:53pm

re: #455 Red Sea Desjardini Tang

I made it rather easy for their little minds. In my case at least.

458 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:16:07pm

re: #454 Varek Raith

Put some jump engines on it and jump it into hyperspace!
Why?
Because I can!

Amen.

459 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:19:38pm

BREAKING: Military Coup Ousts Maldives Climate Hawk Mohamed Nasheed

The first democratically elected leader of a 100-percent Muslim country, President Mohamed Nasheed has been ousted in a military coup by supporters of the 30-year dictator Maumoon Gayoom. President Nasheed, who has led democratic reforms and mobilized his island nation about the existential threat of climate change, is now under house arrest by security forces loyal to Gayoom."

460 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:22:29pm

re: #459 Varek Raith

I did a page on that yesterday. The Vice-President has taken over.

461 Kronocide  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:22:36pm

re: #450 Varek Raith

What did Shawn Vannity say? Derp?

462 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:24:50pm

All the counties that have come in thus far are at 100%, save two-Arapahoe and Douglas.

463 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:25:26pm

re: #460 ProGunLiberal

I did a page on that yesterday. The Vice-President has taken over.

Ah, I'm so far behind on world news today.

464 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:27:01pm

re: #463 Varek Raith

It happened about 1am Today (Hasn't become Wednesday for me yet).

465 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:28:17pm

Romney is back out in front by about 2%.

Douglas and Boulder are the culprits.

466 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:32:01pm

re: #465 ProGunLiberal

Denver is also in with Romney.

Denver is at 100%, with Romney having 1311 votes out of 3,259 votes.
Douglas is at 100%, with Romney having 2725 votes out of 5,825 votes.
Boulder is at 0% (I think glitch), with Romney having out of 1,106 out of 2,938 votes

467 Charleston Chew  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:34:33pm

In every state, Romney seems to be doing best in the counties that the President will probably win in the fall.

468 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:36:13pm

re: #467 Charleston Chew

By that logic, we get Arizona.

Wouldn't mind it.

469 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:36:37pm

Seen on FB:

Are you prepared to survive a nuclear disaster? I have a vial of Potassium Iodide, which will help protect the thyroid. In Japan, there were still kids playing outside within 25 km. When big business owns the nuclear plants, there is incentive to cover up potential risks/exposure.

Guess who they plan to vote for?

470 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:37:43pm

re: #469 Jazzy Ponytail

Ron Paul, right?

471 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:38:55pm

re: #400 bloodstar

A few thoughts.

Re: Birth Control. So if we extend the right to Christian Scientists that the Conservatives want to extend to Catholics, then by default, any company can claim that it's against their religious tenants to let people get medical treatment, therefore they won't include any medical treatment to their insurance policies.

Second, I didn't realize that the new requirements forced Catholics to take birth control pills against their will... Oh wait, it doesn't. The corporation doesn't have religion, people do. (Despite the best efforts to claim that Corperations are People).

Do Christian Science agencies offer health insurance at all?

472 dragonath  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:39:08pm

re: #467 Charleston Chew

I was thinking tonight election map might look a little like this.

According to 538, Frothy is getting something like 60% in Colorado Springs.

473 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:39:58pm

re: #471 SanFranciscoZionist

Do Christian Science agencies offer health insurance at all?

What a good question!

There you go thinking again.

:0

474 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:40:33pm

re: #434 ProGunLiberal

To give you all an idea how fucked up that is, Kit Carson County, at the Central portion of the Border with Kansas, has 100% counted. It has 212 votes.

Kit Carson County has a population of 8,011.

Are all the rest of them Democrats?

475 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:40:58pm

re: #436 jaunte

Turnout is depressed.

I don't think a person moves to Kit Carson County to be bothered with politics.

476 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:41:13pm

re: #470 ProGunLiberal

Ron Paul, right?

Oh yeah. What's hilarious is that Ron Paul is probably one of the biggest corporate whores out there and the Paulbots I know keep talking about the evils of corporatism and how big businesses like Google trample freedom. Cognitive dissonance, they haz it.

477 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:42:13pm

Romney extended his lead a little more: Arapahoe has completely come in:

Romney got 2,959 votes out of 6,580.

Boulder is still weird.

478 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:42:28pm

re: #471 SanFranciscoZionist

No, it's all mind over matter, there. Pray on it.

479 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:42:28pm

re: #467 Charleston Chew

In every state, Romney seems to be doing best in the counties that the President will probably win in the fall.

if romney wins the nomination, where is the claim that "conservative' - read "wingnut" - values are the Values of the Majority of True Americans?

oh, and by the way: pffftskkkkrrrrqqq!

480 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:43:42pm

re: #470 ProGunLiberal

Ron Paul, right?

Sorry I'm in late. You here what happened in the Maldives today?

481 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:43:54pm

re: #469 Jazzy Ponytail

Seen on FB:

Guess who they plan to vote for?

You can also poison yourself with the stuff if you don't know what you're doing.

Morons.

482 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:44:47pm

re: #475 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't think a person moves to Kit Carson County to be bothered with politics.

As always, there are enthusiastic hobbyists:

The purpose and objectives of this organization shall be to encouraged and foster the activities of the Republican Party by organizing to elect Republican candidates to offices at the county, state, and national levels.
[Link: www.kitcarsoncountygop.org...]

483 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:44:56pm

re: #480 Dark_Falcon

Yep, I paged it real early this morning. Was about to go to bed when it popped up on Twitter.

So, I delayed sleep for a while, and wrote a page. Interested?

484 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:45:22pm

re: #477 ProGunLiberal

Romney extended his lead a little more: Arapahoe has completely come in:

Romney got 2,959 votes out of 6,580.

Boulder is still weird.

Is Arpahoe near Utah? Because I do know that Colorado has a small but notable Mormon population.

485 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:45:22pm

This is good news for John McCain Mitt Romney:

PPP: Kasich Would Lose A Do-Over In Ohio By Twenty

486 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:46:44pm

re: #482 jaunte

As always, there are enthusiastic hobbyists:

Yes, but do we know that's not one lady and a couple of people from the grocery store who signed up to be nice?

487 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:47:24pm

re: #484 Dark_Falcon

No, it's part of the Denver Metro.

Boulder is showing a vote count that would seem to be correct relative its size, but also says 0% in. Something dun fucked up.

488 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:47:30pm

re: #481 Kragar

You can also poison yourself with the stuff if you don't know what you're doing.

Morons.

Automatic Darwin Award winner?

489 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:48:26pm

Romney's lead has dwindled to less than 250 votes, as rural areas pop in. El Paso still MIA.

490 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:48:45pm

re: #484 Dark_Falcon

[Link: www.lonewolf-electric.com...]

491 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:49:16pm

So I went to buy some food on the way home, and the lead has changed.

Depending on how far Romney gets in the surrounding area around Denver (nearly all counted now), the lead might change again when Colorado Springs come in - still nothing from there.

492 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:49:33pm

Santorum is back in the lead.

493 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:50:22pm

re: #483 ProGunLiberal

Yep, I paged it real early this morning. Was about to go to bed when it popped up on Twitter.

So, I delayed sleep for a while, and wrote a page. Interested?

Nah. I already read the story on CNN. Sad, though that the Salafists were able to hound a good man from office that easily. And the former president of those islands will soon find he's made a devil's bargain, allying with those scum.

494 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:50:30pm

re: #491 Robert O.

Colorado Springs will be Mormons vs. Evangelicals. There are a large number of both in the city.

495 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:50:51pm

CNN has Romney down by 75 votes in CO:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

EDIT: Now he's up by 133

496 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:51:54pm

What is in Jefferson County? Is it still suburban, or is that already in the Rockies? I remember driving down the I-70 into Denver and saw all the downhill warning signs "you're not done yet".

497 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:52:20pm

re: #495 Jazzy Ponytail

And back up again. Pitkin County is the cause.

498 Charleston Chew  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:52:54pm

re: #485 Jazzy Ponytail

This is good news for John McCain Mitt Romney:

PPP: Kasich Would Lose A Do-Over In Ohio By Twenty

The fact that Strickland was the incumbent makes it all the more sad that Ohio dumped him because of a temporary mood swing. Kasich is a political home-wrecker.

499 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:53:12pm

re: #496 Robert O.

Suburban, population over 500k.

500 erik_t  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:53:25pm

I'm mid-20s and still too old for this vote-by-individual-vote primary shit.

Good night, everybody, and may all kinds of absurd badness happen overnight, so that the morning might be entertaining.

501 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:54:28pm

Okay...Jefferson's total is up, so my question is answered :-)

Romney's lead is only ~130. Colorado Springs and some very conservative regions in the southwest still outstanding, against Fort Collins. I think Frothy will overtake him.

502 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:54:56pm

re: #499 ProGunLiberal

And it went for Romney by just 200 votes.

I think Santorum gets my Home State. The chances are high Santorum get El Paso, which will end it.

503 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:56:35pm

re: #501 Robert O.

The reason Colorado has gone blue recently is the Blue Cities are able to outmatch the Conservative ones.

The Democrats hold Denver, Pueblo, Fort Collins, and Boulder.

The Republicans hold Colorado Springs, Greeley, and Grand Junction.

Game, set, match.

504 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:56:54pm
505 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:57:18pm

Romney only beat Santorum by an average of ~10% in the Denver metro. His margin is below that in Boulder. And those are the most liberal areas most favorable to him.

506 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:57:53pm

Romney's lead is now 129 votes, per CNN.

507 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:59:10pm

Crazy cat.

508 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:59:26pm
509 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:59:37pm

re: #507 Varek Raith

Crazy cat.

Becareful!

510 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:00:32pm

re: #509 ggt

Becareful!

She's running around like a maniac.
The older one's like, meh.

511 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:01:40pm

santogasmus!

512 dragonath  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:02:44pm

CNN just projected Santorum the winner...

513 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:02:46pm

re: #511 engineer psychotic feline

santogasmus!

Er...
No.

514 makeitstop  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:03:23pm

Wow! Mittens got his face shoved in it tonight.

When Santorum wins 2 out of 3 and ties you in the third, it doesn't matter how much money you've got. Your campaign has massive problems, ones that maybe money can't fix.

515 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:03:25pm

Santorum projected to win Colorado. Clean Sweep.

Gingrich, drop out. Allow Santorum to take your supporters.

516 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:04:27pm

Heading for a 1964-style blowout.

517 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:04:33pm

Wow. ThinkProgress got it right in their Twitter hashtags. Mitt got rickrolled tonight.

518 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:04:39pm

you haz herded it first here on see a nun

519 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:06:12pm
520 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:06:41pm

re: #498 Charleston Chew

The fact that Strickland was the incumbent makes it all the more sad that Ohio dumped him because of a temporary mood swing. Kasich is a political home-wrecker.

People in Ohio were pissed with Obama and didn't like his health care law. Kasich made the mistake of assuming he had a wider mandate than he did. He does still have time to change voter's minds, and he'd better focus on that. My suggestion, work to grow small businesses. Manufacturing firms may be leery of Ohio while the star of the unions seems ascendant.

521 SpaceJesus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:09:12pm

hahaha Santorum sweep

522 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:09:12pm

This is Mitt Romney tonight:

523 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:09:30pm

Santorum wins by 5 percent in Colorado for a clean sweep. Romney has been holding on as the grudging candidate and by nuking the opposition with massive spending.

Romney may recover, but if Romney was a battleship, then I'd name him the Hood at this point.

524 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:09:34pm

CNN is projecting Frothy to win.

I have to say that before tonight, I did NOT seeing Romney losing 3 out of 3 coming. I had assumed that however unenthusiastic the GOP was with him, "beating Obama" still counts, and that after Florida and Nevada, the issue was settled. Social Conservatives may want Gingrich to drop out now, but I doubt Gingrich will do anything other than go out in flames and burn down the building with him.

525 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:09:52pm

re: #521 Pamela Geller

"ooga booga blarg islam derp derp boop"

Well done.

526 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:10:09pm

the significance of it is that no boddy showed up tonite to be a republican

527 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:10:21pm

re: #515 ProGunLiberal

Santorum projected to win Colorado. Clean Sweep.

Gingrich, drop out. Allow Santorum to take your supporters.

With Gingrich's ego?? Not a chance. But its still better than Newt winning, since Santorum is a (much) better man than Newt and would be a better president.

528 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:10:49pm

re: #520 Dark_Falcon

Without Obama's Health-Care law, I never would have Health Insurance.

Asperger's Syndrome is a "Pre-Existing Condition." Not to mention my family history is a horror story health-wise.

Also, Unions are important in making sure exploitation doesn't happen. If you want to see what a place with no unions looks like, go to China.

529 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:12:04pm

re: #527 Dark_Falcon

Santorum is a Christian Salafist.

To take from the very intelligent Foreign Minister of the UAE, Gingrich is corrupt, but Santorum is evil.

530 Charleston Chew  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:12:40pm

re: #522 Jazzy Ponytail

This is Mitt Romney tonight:

[Video]

No, this is:

531 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:14:08pm

re: #527 Dark_Falcon

Santorum is a (much) better man than Newt and would be a better president.

You're kidding, right? Newt's a philandering asshole and a spiteful man that his fellow DC insiders hate with the fire of a thousand suns, but Santorum is a full-on religious fanatic and means it.

I'd rather see the GOP in DC have to put up with Newt's shit than ever put that nutjob Santorum anywhere near the nuke codes.

532 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:16:01pm

re: #531 Jazzy Ponytail

Exactly. Santorum is the equivalent of the Al-Nour Party in Egypt (which had a parliamentary incident today), or the more hardline mullahs in Iran.

Except, in the Iranian case, they still allow for Birth Control.

533 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:18:09pm

re: #531 Jazzy Ponytail

You're kidding, right? Newt's a philandering asshole and a spiteful man that his fellow DC insiders hate with the fire of a thousand suns, but Santorum is a full-on religious fanatic and means it.

I'd rather see the GOP in DC have to put up with Newt's shit than ever put that nutjob Santorum anywhere near the nuke codes.

Maybe it's just that I'm a child of the 90s. I hate Newt with a passion.

I'd rather have a religious fanatic than a religious fanatic who's also a mean hypocrite.

534 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:18:25pm

re: #523 bloodstar

Santorum wins by 5 percent in Colorado for a clean sweep. Romney has been holding on as the grudging candidate and by nuking the opposition with massive spending.

Romney may recover, but if Romney was a battleship, then I'd name him the Hood at this point.

HMS Hood was a battlecruiser, not a battleship. And Mitt Romney's candidacy does not have Hood's serious design flaws, his money giving him enough staying power that he cannot be knocked out with one hit. The only fair comparison between the two would be to note that both Mitt Romney and HMS Hood had as their father a man with some flaws, but each father a brilliant man in his field.

535 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:18:32pm

Santorum surged all over the map.

536 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:19:04pm

re: #532 ProGunLiberal

Exactly. Santorum is the equivalent of the Al-Nour Party in Egypt (which had a parliamentary incident today), or the more hardline mullahs in Iran.

Except, in the Iranian case, they still allow for Birth Control.

be that as it may, and i don't disagree, i still think rick is, unaccountably, the smartest person in the gop race

537 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:20:01pm

re: #533 SanFranciscoZionist

Thing is, Gingrich wouldn't go as far as Santorum.

538 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:20:26pm

re: #533 SanFranciscoZionist

Maybe it's just that I'm a child of the 90s. I hate Newt with a passion.

I'd rather have a religious fanatic than a religious fanatic who's also a mean hypocrite.

I can't stand either of them. I'd rather eat glass than see Gingrich or Santorum in the White House. I'll still take the narcissistic asshole former Speaker over the sincere religious fanatic that would set women back 5000 years.

539 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:21:21pm

re: #536 engineer psychotic feline

be that as it may, and i don't disagree, i still think rick is, unaccountably, the smartest person in the gop race

Oh, he's bright.

Once in a while, usually when talking about foreign policy, the mask drops, and you see how smart he is.

He mostly hides it, because it's not what he thinks is important about himself. What he values about himself is being a true believer.

540 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:21:36pm

Last County is my home county. I'll be staying up until it pops in.

Santorum without it leads by 3%.

541 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:21:43pm

re: #528 ProGunLiberal

Also, Unions are important in making sure exploitation doesn't happen. If you want to see what a place with no unions looks like, go to China.

I've not said unions aren't needed, I'm saying that larger manufacturers will not be likely to want to add jobs in a state where the unions are very strong at the moment (due probable increased labor costs). It was analysis, not moral commentary.

542 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:22:10pm

It is all in now. Santorum wins quite convincingly by 5%.

543 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:22:25pm

re: #540 ProGunLiberal

And it just came in.

Went for Santorum 47-31. My city is frothy shit.

544 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:22:32pm

It's a LONG time to November, folks..

545 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:23:32pm

re: #537 ProGunLiberal

Thing is, Gingrich wouldn't go as far as Santorum.

I think he'd go just as far, maybe further, on things that the president actually has some more control over.

And their Supreme Court picks would be neck and neck.

Thanks be to God, neither of them will be President.

546 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:24:08pm

re: #545 SanFranciscoZionist

Huh, didn't think of it that way.

547 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:24:37pm

"i am not now, nor have i ever been, married to a dog"

548 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:25:18pm

Look at the vote totals in each county and it reveals a lot of information. El Paso has by far the largest number of votes. Yet, according to Wikipedia, the population there is barely greater than Denver and Arapahoe. Everywhere that has high turnout votes AGAINST Romney.

549 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:26:08pm

re: #545 SanFranciscoZionist

Thanks be to God, neither of them will be President.

Don't tell that to all the far right blogs tonight... they're going ecstatic over the ABR victory.

550 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:27:34pm

After this, what are the chances of a brokered convention? The next primaries aren't for another three weeks. That's a long time for the socon base to rally people behind Santorum now that he's swept Romney.

551 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:28:08pm

re: #543 ProGunLiberal

And it just came in.

Went for Santorum 47-31. My city is frothy shit.

Can we please drop that sick meme, BTW. It's one thing to hate Rick Santorum, but to attack his last name goes after not just him but also everyone in his entire family, including siblings and cousins.

How would you feel if you were a kid in school and bullies were calling you "crappy froth boy" based on insults slung at your uncle.

552 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:28:41pm

re: #549 freetoken

Don't tell that to all the far right blogs tonight... they're going ecstatic over the ABR victory.

I'd feel bad for them, except...no.

I do sometimes feel bad for the crazy Ron Paul kids. I don't think they know their guy is doomed like the dodo.

553 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:28:58pm

re: #548 Robert O.

Look at the vote totals in each county and it reveals a lot of information. El Paso has by far the largest number of votes. Yet, according to Wikipedia, the population there is barely greater than Denver and Arapahoe. Everywhere that has high turnout votes AGAINST Romney.

Ah yes, Colorado Springs, Theocracy central.

Colorado has demonstrated well tonight that the GOP "base" really is centered around the religious right, something known by the likes of Rove et. al. but something which they try to pretend (in public) isn't true. The GOP operatives want to sell the idea that the GOP represents all people, but the numbers tell a different story.

554 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:29:05pm

re: #551 Dark_Falcon

Given Rick Santorum's bigotry and Neanderthal attitudes about women and gays, I say keep using the meme at will.

555 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:29:48pm

re: #550 Jazzy Ponytail

After this, what are the chances of a brokered convention? The next primaries aren't for another three weeks. That's a long time for the socon base to rally people behind Santorum now that he's swept Romney.

No chance. Gingrich would never agree to it. If it goes to the convention, he'll fight tooth and nail to win the nomination. The man's eho knows no bounds.

556 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:31:25pm

re: #555 Dark_Falcon

No chance. Gingrich would never agree to it. If it goes to the convention, he'll fight tooth and nail to win the nomination. The man's eho knows no bounds.

Nuke em from the moon Newt.

557 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:32:33pm

Here's the latest map according to Wikipedia:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I see a huge spread of Santorum :) green across the middle of the country, a solid bloc of Gingrich purple in the south, and three patches of Romney centered around Massachusetts, south Florida and Mormon country. Romney does not look quite so inevitable after tonight.

558 Tigger2005  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:33:11pm

Wow. Just when I thought Republicans might have found in themselves the discipline to vote for the one candidate, Romney, who has a chance against Obama in the general election, they turn en masse to the next flavor of the day, the most primitive, hairy, beetle-browed candidate still in the running. Do they really even know what the heck they want?

559 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:33:39pm

The next "debate" is only in 14 days, and it will likely be the first one in which Rick Santorum gets one of the two middle positions on stage (and Newt isn't going to like that.)

Oh, and the Reagan library debate for March 5th has been cancelled, which leaves only the one on March 1 (in Georgia) for Newt to make his last Hail Mary attack on the leaders. Then comes Super Tuesday, after which the fat lady should have sung (for the second time).

560 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:33:56pm

re: #558 Tigger2005

Do they really even know what the heck they want?

Yes. They want someone who isn't Mitt Romney.

561 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:34:20pm

re: #554 Jazzy Ponytail

Given Rick Santorum's bigotry and Neanderthal attitudes about women and gays, I say keep using the meme at will.

And why should people who have no control over Rick Santorum's actions be subject to such mockery. He has two siblings and at least one of them has children as well. And those people (as well as Rick's own children) attacked by this meme for actions not their own. That sir, is shitty.

562 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:34:59pm

Night all!

563 Robert O.  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:37:11pm

Can anyone imagine Santorum sitting at a table talking foreign policy with Vladimir Putin? I hate to think what such an encounter would look like. There goes an Obama ad.

564 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:39:27pm

re: #558 Tigger2005

Do they really even know what the heck they want?

they want somebody who makes an ugly, angry sound but who isn't a breathtakingly hypocritical, unspeakable little prick

565 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:42:45pm

re: #563 Robert O.

Can anyone imagine Santorum sitting at a table talking foreign policy with Vladimir Putin? I hate to think what such an encounter would look like. There goes an Obama ad.

Why would that be so bad? Santorum was fairly good on foreign policy as a senator, and he's shown the ability to compromise when needed on such issues.

Rick Santorum meeting Valdimir Putin is no a scenario that worries me.

566 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:47:57pm

re: #565 Dark_Falcon

I can't believe you're trying to rationalize a Santorum presidency. He's a theocrat nutjob who'd set women back 5000 years and appoint atavistic judges that would make Clarence Thomas look like an actual legal thinker. WTF.

567 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:48:14pm

And I'm too weary to go on. Good night to all.

568 JamesWI  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:50:33pm

re: #561 Dark_Falcon

And why should people who have no control over Rick Santorum's actions be subject to such mockery. He has two siblings and at least one of them has children as well. And those people (as well as Rick's own children) attacked by this meme for actions not their own. That sir, is shitty.

Oh no, they have to put up with "Your name is a synonym for 'frothy shit'" jokes.

Meanwhile, Santorum wants to make an entire segment of the population second-class citizens. But let's forget about that and think about the real horror that is poop jokes!

569 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:02:47pm
570 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:03:56pm

re: #568 JamesWI

Meanwhile, Santorum wants to make an entire segment of the population second-class citizens

well he has a well deserved reputation for his unacceptable and jesuitical positions on gay issues, but i wonder what other positions of his are as offensive

i mean besides the boilerplate lying republican rhetoric about "president obama believes"

because, the thing is, i think if he took over and won the nomination he would be a much more effective candidate than romney or gingrich

571 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:08:02pm

re: #570 engineer dog

because, the thing is, i think if he took over and won the nomination he would be a much more effective candidate than romney or gingrich

With at least two groups: (1) religious right traditionalists, and (2) blue collar white folk in the Rust Belt and Appalachia, i.e., the "Reagan Democrats."

I wonder why it took so long for the GOP to find their only legitimate right-wing candidate. I suppose it's a testimony to how far out on the limb the Tea Partying GOP had become that they spent so much time enthralled by Paul/Cain/Bachmann/Perry/Gingrich, all of which are media starlets with not a chance of being Presidential.

572 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:11:28pm

Believe it or not, NRO writer Robert Costa wants Romney to double down... on his Mormon heritage via his father:

Curious George

Costa missed the memo where Mormonism is akin to Satanism.

573 JamesWI  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:13:48pm

re: #570 engineer psychotic feline

well he has a well deserved reputation for his unacceptable and jesuitical positions on gay issues, but i wonder what other positions of his are as offensive

i mean besides the boilerplate lying republican rhetoric about "president obama believes"

because, the thing is, i think if he took over and won the nomination he would be a much more effective candidate than romney or gingrich

In terms of what the crazy wing-nut base wants, he would probably be a more effective candidate. In terms of actually having a chance of winning the election, not even close (though it's not looking like any of them will have a chance, by the look of things).

- Rabidly anti-gay.
- Pushes for creationism in schools
- Hates birth control
- Wants to go to war with pretty much the entire Middle East
- Loves earmarks
- Viewed as corrupt by pretty much every watchdog during his Senate days.

That is not the resume of a man who will attract the moderate votes necessary to have a chance in the general election.

574 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:14:46pm

re: #571 freetoken

With at least two groups: (1) religious right traditionalists, and (2) blue collar white folk in the Rust Belt and Appalachia, i.e., the "Reagan Democrats."

I wonder why it took so long for the GOP to find their only legitimate right-wing candidate. I suppose it's a testimony to how far out on the limb the Tea Partying GOP had become that they spent so much time enthralled by Paul/Cain/Bachmann/Perry/Gingrich, all of which are media starlets with not a chance of being Presidential.

because he is so nerdly - proudly, self-declaring nerdly

and if he takes the lead, he will have the chance to turn this to good advantage. but also i think his effectiveness will help him generally, not just with groups that are inclined to like him

575 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:16:09pm

re: #573 JamesWI

In terms of what the crazy wing-nut base wants, he would probably be a more effective candidate. In terms of actually having a chance of winning the election, not even close (though it's not looking like any of them will have a chance, by the look of things).

- Rabidly anti-gay.
- Pushes for creationism in schools
- Hates birth control
- Wants to go to war with pretty much the entire Middle East
- Loves earmarks
- Viewed as corrupt by pretty much every watchdog during his Senate days.

That is not the resume of a man who will attract the moderate votes necessary to have a chance in the general election.

aha, there we go - i knew there had to be other weaknesses

576 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:32:29pm

re: #575 engineer psychotic feline

aha, there we go - i knew there had to be other weaknesses

I, for one, wish Santorum the best of luck in his campaign for the GOP nomination.

He can look back at it as the high point someday.

577 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:36:42pm

re: #576 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The only problem (for you, me, and the rest of the world) I foresee with Santorum being the nominee is that it would shift the "window" in the general election farther to the right. And with President Obama already being an awkward mix of centrist and technocrat (no, he's really not the hard leftist Marxist that the wingnuts about which the wingnuts fantasize) I'm afraid important forward looking policy positions would be neutralized in the fray.

578 freetoken  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:40:04pm

And, given our society's vested interest in deception and lying to itself, we need someone in the Bully Pulpit who will hammer away at the truth.

Example of said deceptive speak:


New energy supplies may rock orthodox auto beliefs

Everything can be just hunky dory if Americans are just allowed to have their automobile lusts fulfilled.

579 boredtechindenver  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:49:04pm
580 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:51:18pm

re: #579 boredtechindenver

Wet Wipes?

Hydrocolonics.

581 freetoken  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 12:33:22am
582 Kragar  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 12:33:56am

The WSJ has really become shitty.

Planned Parenthood's Hostages

583 researchok  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 1:41:46am

Morning, all

584 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:02:12am

re: #582 Kragar

The WSJ has really become shitty.

Planned Parenthood's Hostages

If the Komen Foundation chooses not to support PP, that is their decision. If people choose not to support the KF, then that is their decision.

The debate shows how emotionally and ideologically laden this issue is in America.

585 researchok  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:05:19am

re: #584 ralphieboy

In my opinion, Komen made a bad decision tying breast cancer to abortion.

They are now paying the price for that decision.

586 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:07:01am

re: #584 ralphieboy

It showed Komen's breathtaking ignorance of their supporters, thinking that they could pull this shit and get away with it. Hell, I'm surprised that woman ever got hired-- they must have been used to not being very heavily scrutinized.

587 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:08:01am

re: #586 A Pie In a Cake In a PIe

Hiring a conservative firebrand without scrutinizing her record closely and then suffering an embarassing setback as a result...why does that sound familiar?

588 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:12:36am

re: #587 ralphieboy

That they proceeded even after high-level resignations in protests is also a little baffling. Those should have been clear signs of the shitstorm they were walking into.

589 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:17:54am

Oh gee, did I miss all the fun?

590 researchok  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:19:46am

re: #589 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

da

591 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:20:14am

So, did Santorum win more state primaries than Romney now? I didn't keep the count.

592 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:21:37am

I wonder if freepers - who officially endorsed Newt - will now change the allegiance.

593 researchok  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:21:58am

re: #591 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

Yes...Colorado, Missouri, Minnesota

594 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:22:04am

re: #591 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

So, did Santorum win more state primaries than Romney now? I didn't keep the count.

Yes, but he won non-binding primaries. From one perspective, Santorum has no more delegates today than he had a week ago. The media story, however, will be huge, and it'll have a big effect at CPAC. I think it's all going to come down to CPAC.

595 freetoken  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:22:37am
596 researchok  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:22:54am

re: #592 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

Too much intellectual exertion.

597 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:25:15am

Image: 2012-02-08_042319.png

I wish LGF had a tag for preformatted text.

598 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:26:27am

re: #593 researchok

Yes...Colorado, Missouri, Minnesota

Iowa.

599 researchok  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:27:09am

re: #595 freetoken

Another time, another place...

Good choice.

600 researchok  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:27:39am

re: #598 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

Too many vowels.

//

601 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:27:54am

re: #597 negativ

Romney made a huge fucking mistake telling people to watch Colorado.

602 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:30:01am

re: #597 negativ

Image: 2012-02-08_042319.png

I wish LGF had a tag for preformatted text.

Search/replace spaces with nbsp and use the code tag.

Like                  this

603 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:32:45am

   Я протянул ему паспорт и поставил чемодан на белый барьер. Та-
моженник бегло перелистал страницы длинными осторожными пальцами.
На  нем  был  белый мундир с серебряными пуговицами и серебряными
шнурами на плечах.  Он отложил паспорт и коснулся кончиком пальца
чемодана.

604 freetoken  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:33:08am

re: #599 researchok

Ya never know what the magic jukebox will serve up next.


Tiger-lilies love the dandelions,
In the golden afternoon...
....
You can learn a lot from the flowers,
Especially in the month of June.

605 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:48:52am

re: #602 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

I didn't know there was a code tag.

and after messing with it, I'm glad I didn't know. (sub   != fun)

and what's the syntax for escaping control characters?

don't answer that

606 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:54:37am

pity my horrible state when being dejobbed and proceeding with a heart and intestines filled with misery to this den of doom

I wonder if he ended up getting rejobulated? I'd hire him to do nothing but draft official correspondence and policy documents.

607 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 3:23:35am

Good Morning Honcos!

608 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 3:24:20am

re: #606 negativ

pity my horrible state when being dejobbed and proceeding with a heart and intestines filled with misery to this den of doom

I wonder if he ended up getting rejobulated? I'd hire him to do nothing but draft official correspondence and policy documents.

ninety lears later he would have a job writing texts to spam mails...

609 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 3:57:17am

I have some "Paulian" friends who claim he is running number 2 in national polls.

Paul supporters flee from reality.

610 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 3:58:17am

re: #609 Ron Paul Ain't Winnin' Shit!

I have some "Paulian" friends who claim he is running number 2 in national polls.

If they are computerized polls, then the Paulbots are always ahead.

611 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:02:57am

hey it works

612 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:07:00am

So far?...

ROMNEY 1,182,886
GINGRICH 838,102
SANTORUM 568,723
PAUL 335,951

613 RogueOne  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:09:11am

re: #608 ralphieboy

ninety lears later he would have a job writing texts to spam mails...

Spam, bacon, sausage, and spam for me please

614 RogueOne  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:09:41am

re: #611 windupbird is in the gravity well

hey it works

Why yes it does!

615 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:10:20am

re: #614 M. Python

forsooth! The internetron!

616 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:14:22am

Doesn't appear to be enough money in the European Union to bail Greece out. Looks like everything they did a year ago was simply forestalling the inevitable.

Their system appears to be unsustainable.

617 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:15:09am

re: #613 M. Python

Spam, bacon, sausage, and spam for me please

I'll have the same, but hold the bacon and sausage!

618 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:16:27am

re: #616 Ron Paul Ain't Winnin' Shit!

They allowed a culture of tax-dodging to sit side by side with a system of overspending. That dog won't hunt, monsignor.

619 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:17:50am

re: #616 Ron Paul Ain't Winnin' Shit!

Doesn't appear to be enough money in the European Union to bail Greece out. Looks like everything they did a year ago was simply forestalling the inevitable.

Their system appears to be unsustainable.

There is enough money, but not the political will to pump money into an economy that will not undertake the necessary reforms to avoid a repeat.

They are already talking about ditching Greece, which they did try to put off, but that was contingent on Greece behaving in a fiscally responsible manner, which now looks impossible.

But if they actually do chuck Greece under the Euro-bus, it might inspire some of the other borderline states to clean up their act...

620 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:20:26am

re: #609 Ron Paul Ain't Winnin' Shit!

I have some "Paulian" friends who claim he is running number 2 in national polls.

Paul supporters flee from reality.

One of the top stories on Yahoo was about Paul remarking last night on how the primaries showed that Romney's coronation is not nigh. He and I will have to differ on the overall message, he thinking it means there's a chance that somebody else could take the nomination, while I think it means Romney's in deep shit when it comes to winning these same states come November.

621 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:20:29am

re: #619 ralphieboy

Greece has a perfectly good argument that austerity bullshit is, indeed, bullshit. But they haven't done anything meaningful to address the rampant tax fraud there, either. And without trust in the governments ability to raise revenue via taxation, bonds aren't worth much.

622 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:23:18am

re: #621 Obdicut

Greece has a perfectly good argument that austerity bullshit is, indeed, bullshit. But they haven't done anything meaningful to address the rampant tax fraud there, either. And without trust in the governments ability to raise revenue via taxation, bonds aren't worth much.

The counter-argument is that without substantial reforms, Greece will remain a bottomless pit.

623 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:25:29am

re: #622 ralphieboy

The counter-argument is that without substantial reforms, Greece will remain a bottomless pit.

Sure. But with substantial austerity reform and without addressing the tax-dodging, it will too. The amount of their deficit is pretty exactly equal to the amount of tax-dodging.

It'd be far better for them to seriously clean house on corruption and tax-dodging then insist on more and more austerity measures.

624 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:27:55am

re: #623 Obdicut

There is enough money in the pockets of tax cheats in Greece right now to totally bail them out? I had no idea that was the problem.

Hell, round the fuckers up!

625 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:29:43am

re: #623 Obdicut

Sure. But with substantial austerity reform and without addressing the tax-dodging, it will too. The amount of their deficit is pretty exactly equal to the amount of tax-dodging.

It'd be far better for them to seriously clean house on corruption and tax-dodging then insist on more and more austerity measures.

I'm not sure if the law is the same today, but it used to be in
Greece that you didn't have to pay tax on your house while it was under construction. Greeks would just leave rebar sticking out the top and claim it was still being constructed. Saw this all around Crete. Unintended consequences and all that.

626 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:30:59am

re: #624 Ron Paul Ain't Winnin' Shit!

There is enough money in the pockets of tax cheats in Greece right now to totally bail them out? I had no idea that was the problem.

Hell, round the fuckers up!

Well, it's also that the government officials responsible for taxation are wildly corrupt. The whole system has been fucked to the hilt and treated like a grab-bag-- part of why the EU is so unwilling to bail them out.

They never should have been allowed into the EU with the amount of corruption they had.

[Link: www.newyorker.com...]

627 RogueOne  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:33:25am

Wasn't part of the greek bailout deal based on the condition that greece raise its taxes? Raise taxes and cut the public sector spending (which almost doubled during the last decade)?

628 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:33:58am

re: #625 FBV loves Cake!!

I think that was probably an intended consequence.

the tax courts typically took seven to ten years to resolve a case. As of last February, they had a backlog of three hundred thousand cases.

629 RogueOne  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:34:11am

BTW, I like how the avatar and name changes take effect immediately instead of having to dump the cache and reload.

630 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:34:46am

re: #627 RogueOne

Wasn't part of the greek bailout deal based on the condition that greece raise its taxes? Raise taxes and cut the public sector spending (which almost doubled during the last decade)?

It's not about raising taxes, it's about enforcing the tax law. You can raise them all you want, but if you have corrupt tax officials, but without a working system it won't work.

631 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:35:27am

re: #625 FBV loves Cake!!
Speaking of unintended consequences, the lack of closets in European homes is based on tax avoidance. Closets were counted as another room for tax purposes. Ta Da, wardrobes!!

632 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:39:42am

re: #631 FBV loves Cake!!

Speaking of unintended consequences, the lack of closets in European homes is based on tax avoidance. Closets were counted as another room for tax purposes. Ta Da, wardrobes!!

Tricksy, those Euro-peons. In Italy houses are taxed at different rates when finished and when 'under construction'. Houses in our town had been under construction since Palladio.

633 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:41:56am

re: #630 Obdicut

18.8% unemployment. Suicides up 40%, murder and violent crime up over 100%.

I'm sure they're glad they got the Olympics.

634 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:44:02am

re: #633 Ron Paul Ain't Winnin' Shit!

The IRS may be a pain in the goddamn ass, enforcing a creaky, loophole-ridden tax code that bewilders the fuck out of people, but at least you can't bribe them.

635 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:44:34am

We really don't value enough the lack of corruption in our government. We're so damn spoiled.

636 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:46:25am

re: #635 Obdicut

We really don't value enough the lack of corruption in our government. We're so damn spoiled.

On the non-elected side of our public sector? I agree.

637 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:47:19am

re: #635 Obdicut

We really don't value enough the lack of corruption in our government. We're so damn spoiled.

Our neighbor was an Italian tax lawyer. He told me his job was to keep his clients from being convicted for the third time. It apparently gets serious then.

638 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:49:18am
639 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:57:03am

OTOH, Italy depends on a stiff value-added tax, and has a separate armed police force to enforce it rigidly (Guardia di Finanza). They are universally said to be SOBs, but I never heard of corruption. Whatever works.

640 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:57:16am

re: #638 Ron Paul Ain't Winnin' Shit!

The people of Wisconsin are seriously fucked up.

Eat cheese or die!!!

641 RogueOne  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:57:26am

Video: Two Occupy Flint protesters arrested for carrying weapons
[Link: www.mlive.com...]

Members of the group of protesters, who stay at a camp on King and 1st streets, said the two people were arrested for carrying blades over three inches in length.

poring over legal texts inside a stove-heated tent at the group's base camp, members said Monday evening they believe the two men were lawfully carrying the knives even though a city ordinance prohibits carrying blades more than three inches long.
.....
He said that until Monday, police never questioned the group about carrying weapons.

"Up until this point, police have protected our rights," said Jason-Michael, who openly carries a pistol at his side. "I carry a sidearm lawfully and dutifully every day."

The two men had not returned to camp Monday night and members believed they were still in police custody.

You can openly carry a gun but not a 3" knife......

642 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:58:14am

re: #641 RogueOne

Just a matter of Second Amendment remedies at work...

643 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:58:30am

re: #639 Decatur Deb

OTOH, Italy depends on a stiff value-added tax, and has a separate armed police force to enforce it rigidly (Guardia di Finanza). They are universally said to be SOBs, but I never heard of corruption. Whatever works.

Kinda like the Carabinieri (national police). They are considered very legit. Local police, not so much.

644 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:58:40am

re: #641 RogueOne

Video: Two Occupy Flint protesters arrested for carrying weapons
[Link: www.mlive.com...]

You can openly carry a gun but not a 3" knife...

Because the National Sword Association is a bunch of wusses.

645 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 4:59:40am

Man that was some mandate last night from Colorado. 0.50 percent of the state population swept him into victory!

Mandate!

//

646 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:02:21am

re: #643 FBV loves Cake!!

Kinda like the Carabinieri (national police). They are considered very legit. Local police, not so much.

Sort of legit. Most of our command's bases were tucked inside Carabinieri 'bases' like a sausage inside its skin. They knew how to work our system. One key is that Carabinieri are never stationed anywhere near their home towns. It would be hard for a local boy to survive and stay clean around Naples.

647 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:04:06am

Karen Handel looks like "somebody's ex-wife."

648 RogueOne  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:04:08am

re: #644 Decatur Deb

Because the National Sword Association is a bunch of wusses.

I don't know that I've actually thought about it but I wonder when "the right to bear arms" became "the right to bear guns"? Why is a 3" knife not considered an armament?

649 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:08:27am

re: #648 RogueOne

I don't know that I've actually thought about it but I wonder when "the right to bear arms" became "the right to bear guns"? Why is a 3" knife not considered an armament?

Guess a bayonet is only protected when it's fixed to a Garand.

650 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:08:48am

re: #649 Decatur Deb

Guess a bayonet is only protected when it's fixed to a Garand.

No, that's an assault rifle, silly.

651 RogueOne  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:12:46am

Someone in detroit is confused:

Sikh house of worship in Sterling Heights vandalized with anti-Muslim graffiti
[Link: www.freep.com...]

A Sikh house of worship in Sterling Heights under construction was vandalized with what appears to be anti-Muslim graffiti.

The Sikh building, known as a gurdwara, was defaced sometime between Sunday evening and Monday morning, a Sikh advocacy group said today. Some of the graffiti reads: “Don’t Builed” and “Mohmed,” which seems to refer to Islam’s prophet, Mohammed. The graffiti also included a Christian cross, a pistol, and the letters R and A. It’s unclear what the letters refer to.

Confused and they can't spell.

652 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:12:58am

re: #641 RogueOne

Video: Two Occupy Flint protesters arrested for carrying weapons
[Link: www.mlive.com...]

You can openly carry a gun but not a 3" knife...

When I first saw the story I didn't think much of it but those aren't pocket knives. It's absurd to claim that they were there to provide "security". What kind of security involves stabbing people? Idiots.

653 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:15:21am

re: #652 Killgore Trout

When I first saw the story I didn't think much of it but those aren't pocket knives. It's absurd to claim that they were there to provide "security". What kind of security involves stabbing people? Idiots.

Stabby Security. Perhaps the OWS people were Sikhs. First Amendment and Second Amendment, baby.

654 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:15:36am

re: #651 RogueOne

Someone in detroit is confused:

Sikh house of worship in Sterling Heights vandalized with anti-Muslim graffiti
[Link: www.freep.com...]

Confused and they can't spell.

That's sad when they can't even spell the F word.

655 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:15:41am

Yeah. Because some guy carrying a 3" knife is so unusual.

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656 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:15:42am

Morning Lizardim from the bitterly cold wild north country. We had a beautiful cloudless night in the light of the full(ish) moon, which, of course, meant the drive to work this morning would be particularly ... interesting. Oh well, I survived it and here I am for another go-round.

657 RogueOne  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:17:21am

re: #652 Killgore Trout

Calling them "security" is a bit of a stretch but I'm not fond of the state telling people what length of knife is allowable to carry. As long as they aren't swinging it around threatening people who cares if it's 3" or 4"?

And, if you've never been to flint, anyone walking around downtown that isn't armed is almost asking for it.....

658 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:18:47am

The ladies in my congregation got together and made a beautiful bridal shower for my daughter last night! She got a lovely gift from...Debbie Schlussel's mother, who was also one of the hostesses of the event.

659 RogueOne  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:20:05am

re: #658 Vicious Babushka

Did I see something about you having another grandbaby? Has anyone told you you guys would make great catholics?/////

660 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:20:47am

Off to class. Stay scaly lizards!

661 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:21:52am

re: #657 RogueOne

Calling them "security" is a bit of a stretch but I'm not fond of the state telling people what length of knife is allowable to carry. As long as they aren't swinging it around threatening people who cares if it's 3" or 4"?

And, if you've never been to flint, anyone walking around downtown that isn't armed is almost asking for it...

Over zealous cops meets dumb civilians with Guy Fawkes masks make for an interesting combination. It's like trying to get a philosophy out of watching a COPS episode. Not exactly a great question of this modern life considering that one Josh Powell just axed his two sons before blowing himself up in their home. A couple of weirdos with a 3" knife that most contractors carry on an every day basis. No doubt it's the local law enforcement there at work. Think about all of the armed protests in other parts of the country.

662 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:24:03am

re: #661 Gus

Watch the video. Those weren't utility knives, the blades look 10-12 inches.

663 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:25:12am

re: #659 RogueOne

Did I see something about you having another grandbaby? Has anyone told you you guys would make great catholics?///

I am so far beyond mere Catholics!

664 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:25:43am

The dangers of parliamentary boredom

Three government ministers in the southern Indian state of Karnataka have resigned after being accused of watching a pornographic video during an assembly meeting.

The ruling right-wing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), which rules Karnataka, ordered the three to step down after local television aired footage on Tuesday of the men watching the allegedly pornographic video while other politicians were debating legislation.

665 RogueOne  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:27:09am

re: #661 Gus

Isn't that the 2nd person to do that crap in WA in the last couple of months? I wonder if that's where Powell got the idea.

666 RogueOne  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:28:14am

666 get! Been waiting for this, time to hit the road. Enjoy the day people!

667 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:30:06am

re: #662 Killgore Trout

Watch the video. Those weren't utility knives, the blades look 10-12 inches.

They seemed very cooperative. Of course this happens every day on the streets. This was like a cake walk for all involved. Nothing much further to say about it really.

668 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:31:56am

re: #665 RogueOne

Isn't that the 2nd person to do that crap in WA in the last couple of months? I wonder if that's where Powell got the idea.

Really? Second? I know there was that one Tea Party guy that shot up his ex-wife's hair salon in California.

669 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:41:32am

Just one little nitpick about this fabulous new feature. Whenever I click on a link I get this Windows error message:

Stop running this script?
A script on this page is causing this browser to run slowly.
If it continues to run, your computer might become unresponsive.

Why yes I am using IE8!

670 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:44:46am

I wake up and find that Santorum won all three states last night. Inevitable Mitt doesn't look so inevitable anymore.

671 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:49:40am

re: #670 HappyWarrior

I wake up and find that Santorum won all three states last night. Inevitable Mitt doesn't look so inevitable anymore.

All this does is make a second Obama term inevitable.

672 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:50:14am

re: #671 Vicious Babushka

All this does is make a second Obama term inevitable.

Yep, for sure.

673 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:50:41am

re: #664 negativ

I saw that! Considering how scummy the BJP are, this makes me very, very happy.

674 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:50:46am

re: #670 HappyWarrior

I wake up and find that Santorum won all three states last night. Inevitable Mitt doesn't look so inevitable anymore.

Think a lot of it has to do with Mitt's strategy to win the nomination, namely the utter lack of any past the initial states. He probably figured he'd clinch two out of the first three, thus securing his dominance, and then just coast the rest of the way.

675 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:51:40am

re: #645 Gus

Man that was some mandate last night from Colorado. 0.50 percent of the state population swept him into victory!

Mandate!

//

Mandate? Reads like a gay dating site. Santorum, what have you been up to?!//

676 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:52:54am

re: #675 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

Mandate? Reads like a gay dating site. Santorum, what have you been up to?!//

Wait a minute. Man-date? I thought it was just a luggage/travel assistance service.

//

677 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:54:37am

re: #645 Gus

Man that was some mandate last night from Colorado. 0.50 percent of the state population swept him into victory!

Mandate!

//

It's still more a matter of psychology than absolute numbers, and Mitt has never had the psychological edge in this contest.

It will also guarantee Santorum more media attention and contributions, which will make for even more entertainment value for everyone watching.

678 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:54:39am

re: #674 Targetpractice

Think a lot of it has to do with Mitt's strategy to win the nomination, namely the utterly lack of any past the initial states. He probably figured he'd clinch two out of the first three, thus securing his dominance, and then just coast the rest of the way.

I think so too. I also think this will force Romney to pander even more to the far right.

679 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:55:42am
AlArabiya_Eng Al Arabiya English
#BreakingNews: Syrian army is using nail bombs against some of the areas it is shelling in Homs: correspondent

:'(

Turkey, just violate the UN Charter.

680 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:57:33am

re: #678 HappyWarrior

I think so too. I also think this will force Romney to pander even more to the far right.

Agreed. The longer the whole debacle is drawn out, the more he has to tilt, and ultimately the harder it will be for him to make that mad dash to the center in time for the general. If this goes past Super Tuesday, or worse, to the convention, then he's venturing into dangerous waters.

Though, at this point, with an improving economy, what he's going to run on in the general is an utter mystery. Promising "change," after the GOP mocked it endlessly in '08, doesn't sound like such a wonderful prospect. But social issues are likely to hurt, rather than help, the GOP in this day and age.

681 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:58:19am

Heh. We should make a "word" day sometime. Rename all of us using a single nickname for the day (or, a thread).

682 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:58:33am

re: #677 ralphieboy

It's still more a matter of psychology than absolute numbers, and Mitt has never had the psychological edge in this contest.

It will also guarantee Santorum more media attention and contributions, which will make for even more entertainment value for everyone watching.

I was thinking it could have been either a "not a Mormon" or "not Romney" vote last night. Don't really want to figure it out though. Santorum won rather handily in Missouri regardless of the numbers. So this is what the Republican Party has become in some states. Rick Santorum the failed bible thumper from Pennsylvania. The creationists-creationist.

Welcome to America.

683 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 5:59:17am

re: #681 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

Heh. We should make a "word" day sometime. Rename all of us using a single nickname for the day (or, a thread).

Can we duplicate names? Let me test...

684 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:00:43am

re: #683 Gus

Can we duplicate names? Let me test...

Nope.

Your changes could not be submitted for the following reasons:

* Display name already in use

685 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:03:27am

re: #682 Gus

I was thinking it could have been either a "not a Mormon" or "not Romney" vote last night. Don't really want to figure it out though. Santorum won rather handily in Missouri regardless of the numbers. So this is what the Republican Party has become in some states. Rick Santorum the failed bible thumper from Pennsylvania. The creationists-creationist.

Welcome to America.

A lot of people do appreciate someone who has (or at least convincingly presents) an image of adhering to a set of clearly defined principles, even if the voters themselves do not fully agree with those principles.

It is seen as a sign of character, and character is still an important factor in politics.

That is a lot of what got Bush elected in 2000 and 2004. And it is what Romney has failed to present from the get-go.

686 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:03:32am

re: #684 Gus

Foiled again!

/Well, there are workarounds, but people won't bother.

687 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:04:46am

re: #679 ProGunLiberal

:'(

Turkey, just violate the UN Charter.

After translations, "nail bombs" probably means "flechette rounds".

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

688 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:05:39am

I wonder...

689 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:05:42am

Coffee's just not doing it for me this morning. Blech. Maybe it's time for a new morning drink.

690 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:06:14am

re: #688 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

I wonder...

Wonder, wonder, who,
Who wrote the book of love...

//

691 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:06:59am

re: #685 ralphieboy

A lot of people do appreciate someone who has (or at least convincingly presents) an image of adhering to a set of clearly defined principles, even if the voters themselves do not fully agree with those principles.

...snip

Torquemada/Savonarola 2012.

692 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:07:32am

Something like that...

693 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:08:27am

re: #691 Decatur Deb

Torquemada/Savonarola 2012.

I'd prefer a new edition of the Spanish Inquisition than to ever let a woman in my life!

694 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:10:54am

re: #688 想要一個 翻譯

I wonder...

Nope.

695 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:11:03am

I'm beat. Sick and tired of Winter. These short days and freezing cold mornings. I can't wait for Spring. I wish to be healthy and "wealthy" again some day before the final curtain call.

696 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:11:41am

re: #691 Decatur Deb

Torquemada/Savonarola 2012.

"Torquemada - do not beg him for mercy. Torquemada - do not ask him for forgiveness. Let's face it - you can't Torquemada anything!"

697 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:12:56am

One thing that bugs me about the new feature is that it does not apply in Spy mode.

698 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:14:26am

re: #697 thedopefishlives

One thing that bugs me about the new feature is that it does not apply in Spy mode.

It was originally going to, but Spy was too valuable as a sanity check in last night's costume party.

699 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:15:24am

re: #698 Decatur Deb

It was originally going to, but Spy was too valuable as a sanity check in last night's costume party.

Why? What happened?

//

700 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:16:45am

re: #699 Gus

Why? What happened?

//

We just lost track of each other because we were shape-shifting so rapidly. That's why Charles added the unplanned hover-over feature as well.

701 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:17:23am

re: #700 Decatur Deb

We just lost track of each other because we were shape-shifting so rapidly. That's why Charles added the unplanned hover-over feature as well.

Yeah. But the hover only works if there's a link on there no?

702 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:17:28am

Morning Lizards.

703 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:18:19am

re: #701 Gus

Yeah. But the hover only works if there's a link on there no?

Nah. If I hover over your 'Gus', I see 'Gus 802'.

704 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:19:01am

re: #703 Decatur Deb

Nah. If I hover over your 'Gus', I see 'Gus 802'.

I know. I get that as well. But when I hover over yours I don't see anything.

705 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:19:58am

Unless it's null if it's set on default or "no name."

706 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:20:36am

re: #704 Gus

I know. I get that as well. But when I hover over yours I don't see anything.

I'm not shape-shifted. Was 'Psuedononymous' for a while last night. I don't think the recreational uses of the feature were forseen.

707 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:21:09am

re: #706 Decatur Deb

I'm not shape-shifted. Was 'Psuedononymous' for a while last night. I don't think the recreational uses of the feature were forseen.

Yep. Try it again and now you'll see nothing over my name.

708 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:22:23am

re: #706 Decatur Deb

I'm not shape-shifted. Was 'Psuedononymous' for a while last night. I don't think the recreational uses of the feature were forseen.

I think they very much were. ;)

709 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:22:33am

OK, back to the previous.

710 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:22:41am

re: #708 想要一個 翻譯

I think they very much were. ;)

Hmm. Suddenly...

711 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:23:18am

re: #707 Gus 802

Yep. Try it again and now you'll see nothing over my name.

I think someone else might be able to use 'Gus 802' as long as you were shifted away from it--not sure.

712 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:24:08am

re: #700 Decatur Deb

We just lost track of each other because we were shape-shifting so rapidly. That's why Charles added the unplanned hover-over feature as well.

Aha. Well, I would be okay with it working in Spy mode if it also supported the hover-over feature. Thing is, I lurk on LGF exclusively in Spy mode, so I miss out on some of the fun features.

713 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:24:32am

re: #711 Decatur Deb

I think someone else might be able to use 'Gus 802' as long as you were shifted away from it--not sure.

Yep. If they used it to goof off for 15 minutes that would be OK. Otherwise it wouldn't be tolerated. Unlike the assholes who run Twitter.

714 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:25:17am

re: #712 thedopefishlives

Aha. Well, I would be okay with it working in Spy mode if it also supported the hover-over feature. Thing is, I lurk on LGF exclusively in Spy mode, so I miss out on some of the fun features.

Yeah--I thought hover-over made it too easy, but it saves a lot of tabbing.

715 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:25:33am

Maybe that can be coded in. That you can create a name but it can't be either a) a name currently in use or b) a current member name.

716 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:26:10am

So in essence "Gus 802" gets locked in regardless of what current name I'm using.

717 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:28:17am

re: #716 Gus

So in essence "Gus 802" gets locked in regardless of what current name I'm using.

Dunno--I thought someone had swapped for deviltry last night.

718 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:28:41am

Morning all!

How is it going so far?

719 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:29:49am

re: #715 Gus

Maybe that can be coded in. That you can create a name but it can't be either a) a name currently in use or b) a current member name.

Have you tried another's name? Maybe it's already coded in?

720 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:29:52am

re: #718 ggt

Morning all!

How is it going so far?

Who are you? Papers, please.

721 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:30:41am

re: #719 Влад
80;ми

Oops, seems like a bug.

722 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:31:35am

Bleh. It's like freaking Fargo out there.

723 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:31:38am

test

724 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:31:54am

Maybe I should rent a wood chipper.

//

725 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:32:58am

re: #722 Gus

Bleh. It's like freaking Fargo out there.

Slow, deliberate commonplace speech?

726 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:34:27am

re: #725 Decatur Deb

Slow, deliberate commonplace speech?

Snow everywhere. Ice on the side streets. 13 degrees. But that? Sometimes it seems that way. Plus when you're over 45 in a place full of 20 somethings it's like being persona non-grata.

727 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:34:28am

re: #724 Gus

Maybe I should rent a wood chipper.

//

You absolutely should. It could save your life.

728 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:35:15am

re: #687 Decatur Deb

That is still a special sort of awful.

729 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:35:35am

re: #727 Vladimir Lenin

You absolutely should. It could save your life.

[Video]

You OK?!

//

730 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:35:40am

re: #726 Gus

Snow everywhere. Ice on the side streets. 13 degrees. But that? Sometimes it seems that way. Plus when you're over 45 in a place full of 20 somethings it's like being persona non-grata.

Quit whining--I've had to wear gloves twice this winter.

(We pay for it in August.)

731 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:35:47am

re: #726 Gus

Shut up old man, and drink your Ensure.
/

732 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:37:08am

re: #729 Gus

You OK?!

//

- Sure, just a bit all over the place.

733 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:37:38am

re: #732 Vladimir Lenin

- Sure, just a bit all over the place.

Very good.

734 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:37:48am

re: #722 Gus 802

Bleh. It's like freaking Fargo out there.

Hey now, I've heard good things about Fargo from the two people I know that've been there.

735 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:38:13am

re: #726 Gus

Snow everywhere. Ice on the side streets. 13 degrees. But that? Sometimes it seems that way. Plus when you're over 45 in a place full of 20 somethings it's like being persona non-grata.

I feel for you. The past few winters have really worn me down too. Luckily my greenhouse has really helped. When it's cold, windy and miserable out I can go out, fiddle with my plants and get some "outdoors" time, It really helps.

736 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:38:14am

re: #720 Decatur Deb

Who are you? Papers, please.

Papers? I ain't got no stinkin' papers.

737 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:38:16am

re: #734 thedopefishlives

Hey now, I've heard good things about Fargo from the two people I know that've been there.

No way. Havana is much nicer.

738 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:38:37am

re: #728 ProGunLiberal

That is still a special sort of awful.

Think of that when you embrace warfare. There was once a version for a 16" naval gun.

739 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:40:11am

re: #733 Fidel Castro

Very good.

Hope to meet you soon.

740 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:40:39am

re: #739 Vladimir Lenin

Hope to meet you soon.

Yes comrade. Someday we shall be vindicated!

741 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:41:09am

Anyone see Augusto lately?

742 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:41:34am

re: #740 Fidel Castro

Yes comrade. Someday we shall be vindicated!

Veni, vidi, vici!

743 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:41:49am

re: #739 Vladimir Lenin

Hope to meet you soon.

Not gonna happen. There is a rumor that Fidel is to rejoin the Church when the pope visits in March. Perhaps he'll endorse Santorum.

744 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:41:58am

re: #741 Fidel Castro

Anyone see Augusto lately?

He's in the next ... room.

745 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:43:14am

re: #738 Decatur Deb

Think of that when you embrace warfare. There was once a version for a 16" naval gun.

Wasn't much they didn't figure out a way to modify into a 16" shell. Even had a 16" nuclear shell at one time.

746 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:44:41am

re: #745 Targetpractice

Wasn't much they didn't figure out a way to modify into a 16" shell. Even had a 16" nuclear shell at one time.

My command had custody of a lot of 8 inch.

747 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:45:07am

Me and Iosif have this plan to escape from here. All we need is drop of blood on my mummy - and some fresh flesh for the regeneration. The capitalist cenobites won't be able to catch us!

748 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:46:19am

re: #738 Decatur Deb

Think of that when you embrace warfare. There was once a version for a 16" naval gun.

The Japanese had a special "honeycomb" anti-aircraft shell for their 16" battleship guns. They actually had them loaded on the Yamato during her final fateful cruise. Imagine the balls on those pilots when they lined up for their attack run and those massive cannons let loose a torrent of flak at them.

749 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:47:59am

re: #738 Decatur Deb

Think of that when you embrace warfare. There was once a version for a 16" naval gun.

Nothing says "Get off my lawn" like having your own 16" coastal gun.

(crap. Image upload doesn't work from here in the office. I have a nice photo of a 16" gun taken at Aberdeen. :( )

750 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:50:45am

I see more sleep in my future.

751 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:51:13am

re: #749 oaktree

Nothing says "Get off my lawn" like having your own 16" coastal gun.

(crap. Image upload doesn't work from here in the office. I have a nice photo of a 16" gun taken at Aberdeen. :( )

Couple parts of Aberdeen were under our lab. We built couple of these, but I don't think they were ever fielded.

Image: 220px-Demonstration_cluster_bomb.jpg

(Wiki is mis-labeled. It's a warhead, not a bomb.)

752 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:51:28am

re: #750 Gus

I see more sleep in my future.

I see some dinners in my future.

753 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:51:36am

re: #749 oaktree

Nothing says "Get off my lawn" like having your own 16" coastal gun.

(crap. Image upload doesn't work from here in the office. I have a nice photo of a 16" gun taken at Aberdeen. :( )

[Link: www.criticalpast.com...]

754 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:51:53am

re: #749 oaktree

Nothing says "Get off my lawn" like having your own 16" coastal gun.

(crap. Image upload doesn't work from here in the office. I have a nice photo of a 16" gun taken at Aberdeen. :( )

Arizona's aft 14" batteries were mounted on the island of Oahu as coastal defense batteries. Welcome to Hawaii, motherfuckers.

755 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:53:54am

re: #751 Decatur Deb

Couple parts of Aberdeen were under our lab. We built couple of these, but I don't think they were ever fielded.

Image: 220px-Demonstration_cluster_bomb.jpg

Sign that I've spent too much time on Wikipedia: I look at that picture and immediately recognize it as a Sarin gas warhead off an old Honest John missile.

756 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:56:03am

re: #755 Targetpractice

Sign that I've spent too much time on Wikipedia: I look at that picture and immediately recognize it as a Sarin gas warhead off an old Honest John missile.

Our version was HE. The Chemical Systems Lab would have done the Sarin version. I had to leave a blood sample before visiting those guys--they creeped me out, frankly.

757 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:56:10am

re: #748 thedopefishlives

The Japanese had a special "honeycomb" anti-aircraft shell for their 16" battleship guns. They actually had them loaded on the Yamato during her final fateful cruise. Imagine the balls on those pilots when they lined up for their attack run and those massive cannons let loose a torrent of flak at them.

I believe they had those and used them during Leyte Gulf. The overall impression is that they were not very effective and put undue wear on the barrel rifling as well.

=== Wikikpedia ===
Sanshiki (anti-aircraft)The term Beehive may also refer to Sanshiki, San-Shiki or sanshikidan (lit. "type 3") ammunition, a combined shrapnel and incendiary round for anti-aircraft use, used by the Imperial Japanese Navy in World War II. The shell was designed for several gun calibers, including the 18-inch (460 mm) guns of the Yamato class battleships.

The 460 mm (18 in) round weighed 2,998 lb and was filled with 900 incendiary tubes and 600 steel stays. The round was equipped with a delay fuze set before firing, that exploded the round at the set altitude; on explosion, the steel shrapnels and the incendiary tubes were ejected in a 20-degree cone forward. The shell itself exploded immediately afterwards due to its burst charge, further increasing the amount of shrapnel. The incendiary tubes ignited about a half-second later and burned for five seconds with 16-feet long flames.[4] Each of the incendiary tubes was a 90 mm long, 25 mm diameter hollow steel cylinder, filled with rubber thermite (phosphorus, vulcanized rubber, natural rubber, stearic acid, sulphur and barium nitrate) and ignited through holes on both sides. The rounds were similar to conventional shells, except their wood-filled ogive and several layers of assembled fragments.

The blast of the main guns turned out to disrupt the fire of the smaller antiaircraft guns, so the 460 mm rounds were not successful. The copper drive bands of the rounds were poorly machined, and constant rapid fire was damaging the gun rifling.[5]

The 406 mm (16 in) round contained 1,200 incendiary tubes and on explosion burst into 2,527 fragments. By contrast a 460 mm round burst into 2,846 fragments.

The 203 mm (8 in) round weighed 125.86 kg and contained 255 incendiary tubes and a 2 kg burst charge in its base. It used the 91 Shiki delay fuze. Its maximum altitude was 10,000 m and it was reached after 55 seconds of flight. The burst charge scattered the shrapnel in a 12 degree cone. The maximum effective distance from the shell burst was about 1,000 meters, where the fragments reached dispersion diameter of 100 meters.

A 127 mm (5 in) round contained 66 incendiary tubes and had a 10 degree dispersion angle with dispersion diameter of 54 meters.
===

758 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:57:33am

re: #756 Decatur Deb

Our version was HE. The Chemical Systems Lab would have done the Sarin version. I had to leave a blood sample before visiting those guys--they creeped me out, frankly.

The "been couped up way too long" kinda creepy?

759 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:57:39am

re: #757 oaktree

I believe they had those and used them during Leyte Gulf. The overall impression is that they were not very effective and put undue wear on the barrel rifling as well.

I never said they worked, but knowing they had them and flying into it nonetheless - that takes gravitas on a colossal scale.

760 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 6:58:25am

re: #758 Targetpractice

The "been couped up way too long" kinda creepy?

"Way too fond of our work" creepy.

762 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:01:44am

re: #759 thedopefishlives

I never said they worked, but knowing they had them and flying into it nonetheless - that takes gravitas on a colossal scale.

The US aircrew probably had little idea what they were beyond some sort of firework-like AAA weapon. And if they saw the main guns firing at them they might not have thought it effective.

763 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:02:17am

re: #758 Targetpractice

Ah--you got some real-world benefit of the 'display' name feature. I remember you thought your nic was cumbersome.

764 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:02:39am

Well here is a Product of Idaho that I wasn't aware of.

Ooh La La! The Caviar Next Door

Shouldn't be surprised with the number of Fish farms in the area, but I am.

765 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:03:40am

re: #759 thedopefishlives

I never said they worked, but knowing they had them and flying into it nonetheless - that takes gravitas on a colossal scale.

Then again I read ACW history and wonder at the discipline of men willing to stand in lines a couple hundred yards apart and exchange volleys of rifle fire for an extended period of time. Iron (or Stonewall) Brigade indeed.

766 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:04:51am

Daytime stuff--BBL

767 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:05:37am

re: #763 Decatur Deb

Ah--you got some real-world benefit of the 'display' name feature. I remember you thought your nic was cumbersome.

Most definitely. I did a little victory dance, but forgot to turn on my webcam.

/

768 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:07:20am

Notice one thing: last year lots of the flatearthers protested that they don't deny the global warming, only the AGW. Remember all the accusations of stramannery? Where is all this now? They're back to "the world is not warming" hurr hurr derp derp.

769 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:07:27am

apple support is so cool!

770 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:08:10am

re: #749 oaktree

Nothing says "Get off my lawn" like having your own 16" coastal gun.

(crap. Image upload doesn't work from here in the office. I have a nice photo of a 16" gun taken at Aberdeen. :( )

Can anyone but Clint Eastwood do that?

771 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:09:35am

re: #768 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

Notice one thing: last year lots of the flatearthers protested that they don't deny the global warming, only the AGW. Remember all the accusations is stramannery? Where is all this now? They're back to "the world is not warming" hurr hurr derp derp.

Saw a wingnut on another board actually pull that in real time. Started the thread by claiming that nobody on the Right is denying that global warming is happening...then less than ten posts later, proceeded to push the "no warming in 15 years" meme.

772 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:09:54am

re: #765 oaktree

Then again I read ACW history and wonder at the discipline of men willing to stand in lines a couple hundred yards apart and exchange volleys of rifle fire for an extended period of time. Iron (or Stonewall) Brigade indeed.

The charge of the 1st Minnesota at Gettysburg is one that still amazes me. 262 men - the smallest regiment in the Union Army - against a full brigade with momentum. 215 became casualties July 2nd, 1863, the largest percentage of loss for a single army unit in a single engagement in American military history.

773 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:12:18am

re: #772 thedopefishlives

The charge of the 1st Minnesota at Gettysburg is one that still amazes me. 262 men - the smallest regiment in the Union Army - against a full brigade with momentum. 215 became casualties July 2nd, 1863, the largest percentage of loss for a single army unit in a single engagement in American military history.

And Hancock tossed them in there knowing they'd get shredded, but needing the time to get more regiments in line to repel the attack. And the regiment's men pretty much knew they were being sacrificed as well.

774 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:13:24am

re: #773 oaktree

And Hancock tossed them in there knowing they'd get shredded, but needing the time to get more regiments in line to repel the attack. And the regiment's men pretty much knew they were being sacrificed as well.

The Minnesota Historical Society has the regimental colors, as well as that of the 28th Virginia, whose flag they captured the next day (and won 2 Medals of Honor in the process). Apparently, in the 1990's, Virginia threatened to sue the society for return of the flag, but were smacked down.

775 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:14:54am

Charles, if you're reading, do you think it is possible to implement the optional "dispname footprint" for comments? I.e. having a checkbox in each comment-posting box that, if checked, will indicate to the engine to imprint the current variation of the dispname into the comment?

776 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:15:00am

Have a great day all!

777 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:15:18am

re: #770 ggt

Can anyone but Clint Eastwood do that?

Gregory Peck could have!

778 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:17:08am

re: #774 thedopefishlives

The Minnesota Historical Society has the regimental colors, as well as that of the 28th Virginia, whose flag they captured the next day (and won 2 Medals of Honor in the process). Apparently, in the 1990's, Virginia threatened to sue the society for return of the flag, but were smacked down.

I think it was Coddington that wrote that the main thing with Pickett's Charge wasn't that it was repelled, but by how few Union tropps it was repelled by.

And I was always taken by the initiative of the Vermont Brigade commander (Stannard?) in realizing he was on the flank of the assault at that stage and wheeling out in order to fire enfilade on it.

779 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:18:30am

re: #778 oaktree

I think it was Coddington that wrote that the main thing with Pickett's Charge wasn't that it was repelled, but by how few Union tropps it was repelled by.

And I was always taken by the initiative of the Vermont Brigade commander (Stannard?) in realizing he was on the flank of the assault at that stage and wheeling out in order to fire enfilade on it.

That was a spectacular maneuver, well-executed and under extreme conditions. The discipline that some of these units displayed is astounding. Especially when contrasted with the commonly-noted lack of firing discipline, the psychological causes of which formed the foundation of modern basic training.

780 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:18:37am

re: #777 Gus

Gregory Peck could have!

Why did the chicken cross the road?

-To see Gregory Peck!

781 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:20:20am

re: #778 oaktree

I think it was Coddington that wrote that the main thing with Pickett's Charge wasn't that it was repelled, but by how few Union tropps it was repelled by.

And I was always taken by the initiative of the Vermont Brigade commander (Stannard?) in realizing he was on the flank of the assault at that stage and wheeling out in order to fire enfilade on it.

He was copping a riff from the 20th Maine's similar manoeuver on Little Round Top the day before, one that saved the entire Union left flank.

782 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:22:32am

I always enjoy reading some of the finer details of war history. It's astounding to find how many little war trophies are still retained by the victors. Some get returned, some are locked away in vaults, and some are proudly put on display.

783 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:23:09am

re: #779 thedopefishlives

That was a spectacular maneuver, well-executed and under extreme conditions. The discipline that some of these units displayed is astounding. Especially when contrasted with the commonly-noted lack of firing discipline, the psychological causes of which formed the foundation of modern basic training.

Well, Gettysburg was pretty much the last hurrah of the McClellan-era AoP. Lots of casualties there, enlistments running out, units shifted west and a pile of necessary consolidations. A lot of green troops added in and along with terrain and being on the offensive you then get the bludgeon AoP of the Overland Campaign.

784 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:26:21am

re: #782 thedopefishlives

I always enjoy reading some of the finer details of war history. It's astounding to find how many little war trophies are still retained by the victors. Some get returned, some are locked away in vaults, and some are proudly put on display.

I still remember the chill that went down my spine when I saw the remains of Gary Power's U2 spy plane on display at the Soviet Armed Forces Museum in Moscow...

785 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:26:27am

re: #781 ralphieboy

He was copping a riff from the 20th Maine's similar manoeuver on Little Round Top the day before, one that saved the entire Union left flank.

Lots of folks saved the Union bacon on the 2nd day. One of Coddington's thesis was that the Union Army was well served at various times by all levels of their command structure during that battle. At that this is part of why they won rather than the traditional storyit being mainly Lee and the CSA fumbling it away.

786 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:28:55am

Never worry about finding a parking space again!

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

787 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:29:53am

re: #784 ralphieboy

I still remember the chil that went down my spine when I saw the remains of Gary Power's U2 spy plane on display at the Soviet Armed Forces Museum in Moscow...

Interestingly enough, the Civil War was interrupted by a handful of skirmishes and pitched battles between the Dakota Indians and the settlers of the newly incorporated State of Minnesota. President Lincoln intervened personally and commuted the sentences of the majority of the imprisoned Dakota warriors, but 38 were left to be executed, the single largest public execution in American history. And the state kept the scalp of the ringleader until 1971.

788 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:30:48am

re: #785 oaktree

Lots of folks saved the Union bacon on the 2nd day. One of Coddington's thesis was that the Union Army was well served at various times by all levels of their command structure during that battle. At that this is part of why they won rather than the traditional storyit being mainly Lee and the CSA fumbling it away.

There was a famous quote from General Pickett when asked who was responsible for the Confederate defeat at Gettysgburg: "I think the Federals had a lot to do with it."

789 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:35:53am

re: #788 ralphieboy

There was a famous quote from General Pickett when asked who was responsible for the Confederate defeat at Gettysgburg: "I think the Federals had a lot to do with it."

I saw the battlefield this past June (Five Forks) that Pickett was missing from due to an ill-timed shad bake with some of his fellow commanders.

790 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:49:25am

re: #782 thedopefishlives

I always enjoy reading some of the finer details of war history. It's astounding to find how many little war trophies are still retained by the victors. Some get returned, some are locked away in vaults, and some are proudly put on display.

Regimental colors are a big thing, especially for that military time period. Salisbury Cathedral has (had?) regimental colors in various states of repair hanging in it. I presume they belonged to the local regiments from the area. I also saw a few French Imperial eagles in Apsley House (Wellington's house in London that is now essentially a museum.)

791 erik_t  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:53:13am

Tim Pawlenty's hangover this morning (afternoon?) could literally kill a man.

792 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:54:15am

re: #791 erik_t

Tim Pawlenty's hangover this morning (afternoon?) could literally kill a man.

Tim Pawlenty died of a hangover?

793 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:54:38am

I'm the invisible man
Incredible how you can

794 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:55:21am

re: #791 erik_t

Tim Pawlenty's hangover this morning (afternoon?) could literally kill a man.

In the sense that he could've been teh won?

795 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:56:52am

re: #793 ·

I'm the invisible man
Incredible how you can

Seems very... one-dimensional.

796 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:58:09am

re: #795 oaktree

Seems very... one-dimensional.

___________

^This is 1D.

I'm 0D.

797 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:58:33am

re: #565 Dark_Falcon

Why would that be so bad? Santorum was fairly good on foreign policy as a senator, and he's shown the ability to compromise when needed on such issues.

Rick Santorum meeting Valdimir Putin is no a scenario that worries me.

Santorum is a lying, tax payer cheating scumbag. He is a disingenuous lout as is his wife. Fuck them.

798 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:58:50am

Butthurt story of the day.

Air Force Removes ‘God’ From Logo

The comments are typical of the putrid minds of Fox News and wingnuts.

801 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:03:23am

re: #798 Gus

Butthurt story of the day.

Air Force Removes ‘God’ From Logo

The comments are typical of the putrid minds of Fox News and wingnuts.

This was the motto in Latin:

“Doing God’s Work with Other People’s Money”

Which is pretty lame and kind of strange if you ask me. Even if you believe in God. So they changed it to “Doing Miracles with Other People’s Money” which is still kind of goofy because miracles are based on chance and not reproducible in a laboratory environment. In any case I never even heard of this office, "Rapid Capabilities Office."

Winger-Americans will one again respond like the knuckle dragging primitives that they are.

802 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:05:06am

тест

803 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:05:28am

тест 2

804 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:06:00am

re: #801 Gus

This was the motto in Latin:

“Doing God’s Work with Other People’s Money”

Which is pretty lame and kind of strange if you ask me. Even if you believe in God. So they changed it to “Doing Miracles with Other People’s Money” which is still kind of goofy because miracles are based on chance and not reproducible in a laboratory environment. In any case I never even heard of this office, "Rapid Capabilities Office."

Winger-Americans will one again respond like the knuckle dragging primitives that they are.

"Peace Through Superior Stupidity" translates as "China Eats Our Lunch"?
/

805 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:06:40am

тест 3

806 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:07:43am

тест 4

807 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:08:22am

With that last one I managed to vanish, but only in the added comments. If I reload the page, I see the ASCII code. Kinda bug.

808 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:08:30am

re: #806

тест 4

тестICLES!

//

809 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:08:48am

re: #806

In Russia, bomb counts you?

810 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:10:19am

re: #799 ·

[Video]

That inspired me to put up my Valentine avatar.

811 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:11:37am

re: #810 wenchwrench

My wife's med school scheduled the practical female genital exam for Valentine's day.

812 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:12:07am

re: #809 Obdicut

In Russia, bomb counts you?

In Russia, never cut the red wire to disarm bomb!!!

813 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:12:44am

re: #812 ralphieboy

In Russia, never cut the red wire to disarm bomb!!!

Eh, the bomb won't work anyway. It's Russia.

814 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:14:45am

re: #813 .

Eh, the bomb won't work anyway. It's Russia.

We'll meet again, don't know how, don't know when...
(it worked in at least one movie.)

815 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:14:54am

re: #811 Obdicut

My wife's med school scheduled the practical female genital exam for Valentine's day.

Lovely! When's the men's? I can't even think of a funny answer. I'm sure the lizards can help.

816 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:15:15am

re: #813 .

Eh, the bomb won't work anyway. It's Russia.

Where are you going to find a suitcase to put bomb in?

817 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:15:22am

re: #813 .

Eh, the bomb won't work anyway. It's Russia.

Not true - we blow up Czars all the time!!!

818 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:16:01am

re: #810 wenchwrench

That inspired me to put up my Valentine avatar.

Indicator of a prickly personality. And it repels Aztec priests!

819 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:16:28am

re: #811 Obdicut

My wife's med school scheduled the practical female genital exam for Valentine's day.

I majored in labia minora...

820 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:16:36am

re: #818 oaktree

Indicator of a prickly personality. And it repels Aztec priests!

Works better than the Thing injection?

821 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:17:04am

re: #815 wenchwrench

The mens already happened, actually. Nothing special, except that, during the prostate portion, one of her classmates got very excited and whooped when she found it. She actually said "Bam, there it is", which is probably unprofessional.

822 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:17:52am

re: #816 Vicious Babushka

Where are you going to find a suitcase to put bomb in?

Paint it green and disguise it as a cabbage

823 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:18:01am

re: #821 Obdicut

The mens already happened, actually. Nothing special, except that, during the prostate portion, one of her classmates got very excited and whooped when she found it. She actually said "Bam, there it is", which is probably unprofessional.

Unprofessional, maybe, but if I was having a prostate exam and my doctor said that, I'd laugh.

824 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:18:51am

re: #821 Obdicut

The mens already happened, actually. Nothing special, except that, during the prostate portion, one of her classmates got very excited and whooped when she found it. She actually said "Bam, there it is", which is probably unprofessional.

Only if she burst into song at the same time:

825 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:20:56am

re: #811 Obdicut

Proctology practical exam scheduled for April 17, 2012 (tax day)?

826 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:24:51am

2012: the Wild West with high tech gadgets.

828 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:29:00am

re: #821 Obdicut

But during the prostrate exam, is the doctor supposed to have both hands on your shoulders?

829 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:29:41am

re: #828 Tommy

It's funny because it's about the butt.

830 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:31:22am

re: #829 Obdicut

It's funny because it's about the butt.

Butt of the jokes?

/sorry

831 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:37:46am

re: #829 Obdicut

But did you put a boogie in the butt? or a tree? /eddie murphy

832 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:37:52am

re: #815 wenchwrench

Lovely! When's the men's? I can't even think of a funny answer. I'm sure the lizards can help.

Proctober.

833 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:41:44am

re: #829 Obdicut

It's funny because it's about the butt.

If it is painful, there will be butthurt.

834 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:44:21am

Meanwhile, in Europe and Africa...

On the 31 January, heavy snow blanketed Istanbul, covering the Blue Mosque. 102 flights were cancelled at Ataturk International Airport.

I want pics of the snowed over Blue Mosque.

Algeria – The north of the country awoke to a blanket of snow. The average temperature at this particular time of year being 9 °C (48 °F).

Same story in Libya. I can't imagine the North African states are dealing with this well.

835 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:45:58am

re: #834 ProGunLiberal

Meanwhile, in Europe and Africa...


I want pics of the snowed over Blue Mosque.


Same story in Libya. I can't imagine the North African states are dealing with this well.

Israeli Chemical attack. Airborne dispersal of crystalline dihydrogen monoxide.
//

836 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:46:06am

re: #834 ProGunLiberal

By your command:
[Link: www.cncworld.tv...]

837 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:50:09am

re: #836 lawhawk

The pictures are beautiful. Guarantee Istanbul is more beautiful than any place in Greece right now, though that would be true anyways.

The kid in the second picture looks so damn happy. :D

838 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:51:49am

re: #828 Tommy

But during the prostrate exam, is the doctor supposed to have both hands on your shoulders?

I don't know about prostrate exams, but when I get a prostate exam I'm careful make sure the Doc is fully clothed and one arms length away from my butt.

839 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:56:06am

re: #796 .

___

^This is 1D.

I'm 0D.

Are you in your period period?

840 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:56:16am

How does the saying go, "Never bring a knife to a gunfight"
Anywhere except in upstate NY
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]

841 Petero1818  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:56:35am

I am sure most have seen this, but I find it quite hysterical

Image: tumblr_lysrbvwSrJ1qmzxy4o1_400.gif

842 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:59:44am

Let him with a free hand, cast the first stone.
-Dennis Miller

843 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:00:04am

re: #839 NullHypothesis

Are you in your period period?

He is a man of pause.

844 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:00:31am

re: #821 Obdicut

The mens already happened, actually. Nothing special, except that, during the prostate portion, one of her classmates got very excited and whooped when she found it. She actually said "Bam, there it is", which is probably unprofessional.

She'd be fun to make whoopee with.

845 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:02:36am

re: #843 wenchwrench

He is a man of pause.

And we're supposed to bear with him, I assume?

846 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:04:31am

re: #845 NullHypothesis

And we're supposed to bear with him, I assume?

That would be the man of paws.

847 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:05:00am

My friend has his wife write messages with a sharpie on his bum for the Doctor when he has his physicals. Last time it was, "Put it here, big boy." with an arrow.

848 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:07:21am

re: #847 Ron Paul Ain't Winnin' Shit!

My friend has his wife write messages with a sharpie on his bum for the Doctor when he has his physicals. Last time it was, "Put it here, big boy." with an arrow.

How about "Just say no to crack"?

849 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:09:59am

re: #846 wrenchwench

That would be the man of paws.

Dammit, leaf my shitty puns alone!

850 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:10:46am

Looks like TPM may have spiked another "Israel Firster" posting.
“Israel Firster” Coined By Brandeis University Founder in 1960

It's the second result of this google search: [Link: www.google.com...]

It would be a positive development if the TPM editors stopped allowing posts like this but the larger problem is that they're employing these people in the first place.
The article was cross posted here. No indication of who wrote it.

851 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:11:53am

re: #849 NullHypothesis

Dammit, leaf my shitty puns alone!

In the woods?

852 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:12:38am

I have to hit the road and go to another customer an hour away. I'll be thinking of each and every one of you and missing you terribly during that endless trip.

Fare thee well scaly ones.

853 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:14:18am

re: #850 Killgore Trout

Looks like TPM may have spiked another "Israel Firster" posting.
“Israel Firster” Coined By Brandeis University Founder in 1960

It's the second result of this google search: [Link: www.google.com...]

It would be a positive development if the TPM editors stopped allowing posts like this but the larger problem is that they're employing these people in the first place.
The article was cross posted here. No indication of who wrote it.

Oops. My bad. They are still allowing "Israel Firster" posts. Here's the TPM article: "Israel Firster" Coined By Brandeis University Founder in 1960

854 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:15:43am

re: #850 Killgore Trout

Actually it originated from this Mondoweiss:

Leading Zionist historian was first to say ‘Israel Firster’– in 1960

Are you suggesting we quash the free exchange of ideas and instead accept a form of decree not allowing people to analyze their own political discourse?

855 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:15:52am

re: #853 Killgore Trout

Oops. My bad. They are still allowing "Israel Firster" posts. Here's the TPM article: "Israel Firster" Coined By Brandeis University Founder in 1960

And?

856 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:17:53am

Sounds like black listing to me. Worthy of Augusto Pinochet's Chile.

857 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:19:49am

Of course I didn't read Mondoweiss's dociere nor Philip Weiss's. Perhaps he's on the "prohibited reading list" as well which now puts me on the blacklist.

858 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:22:04am

re: #854 Gus

Actually it originated from this Mondoweiss:

Leading Zionist historian was first to say ‘Israel Firster’– in 1960

Are you suggesting we quash the free exchange of ideas and instead accept a form of decree not allowing people to analyze their own political discourse?

Hmm, interesting. Well, that does dispose of the "it was used by neo-Nazis" argument. However, the problem with the term remains since it is used so non-discriminately. Like "dual loyalty", "Israel-firster" can be true in individual cases (see: Jonathan Pollard; Sheldon Adelson; Carolyn Glick). But it is now thrown against supporters of Israel as a group.

859 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:22:45am

re: #854 Gus

Actually it originated from this Mondoweiss:

Leading Zionist historian was first to say ‘Israel Firster’– in 1960

Are you suggesting we quash the free exchange of ideas and instead accept a form of decree not allowing people to analyze their own political discourse?

Mondoweiss is a rabid hate site similar to Stormfront or the Council of Conservative Citizens. Referring to Weiss as a "courageous journalist" would be like praising Pat Buchanan for his brave racial statements.
I'm not advocating he be silenced and I took the same position with Glenn Beck. However, I choose not to get my news from sources that allow that kind of divisive hate against fellow Americans. It's a personal choice and I'm not telling anyone else what to do or say.

860 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:22:55am

re: #858 .

Hmm, interesting. Well, that does dispose of the "it was used by neo-Nazis" argument. However, the problem with the term remains since it is used so non-discriminately. Like "dual loyalty", "Israel-firster" can be true in individual cases (see: Jonathan Pollard; Sheldon Adelson; Carolyn Glick). But it is now thrown against supporters of Israel as a group.

I'm not arguing the phrase. I'm arguing about a free exchange of ideas. If people don't read they won't learn.

861 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:23:24am

re: #859 Killgore Trout

Mondoweiss is a rabid hate site similar to Stormfront or the Council of Conservative Citizens. Referring to Weiss as a "courageous journalist" would be like praising Pat Buchanan for his brave racial statements.
I'm not advocating he be silenced and I took the same position with Glenn Beck. However, I choose not to get my news from sources that allow that kind of divisive hate against fellow Americans. It's a personal choice and I'm not telling anyone else what to do or say.

Seriously? Like Stormfront? This I did not know. Do you have a link for that?

862 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:24:29am

The point is that Killgore's trying to demonize Talking Points Memo.

863 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:24:52am

re: #861 Gus

Stormfront is an exaggeration. However, you get to see antisemitic cartoons there, now and then, like the "Zionist Octopus" cartoon during the flotilla incident.

864 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:25:45am

re: #858 .

Hmm, interesting. Well, that does dispose of the "it was used by neo-Nazis" argument. However, the problem with the term remains since it is used so non-discriminately. Like "dual loyalty", "Israel-firster" can be true in individual cases (see: Jonathan Pollard; Sheldon Adelson; Carolyn Glick). But it is now thrown against supporters of Israel as a group.

MondoWeiss isn't really a trustworthy source. They may be technically correct or the term may even predate their claim. However, the term gained popularity among neonazis and hate groups. It's not really important who actually invented the term first it still has the same connotations.

865 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:25:56am

Never mind. I can see I hit the LGF wall.

866 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:27:05am

Assimilate or get out. The other alternative is silence.

Not exactly the way true freethinkers act. Killgore is still in his Michelle Malkin stage.,

867 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:27:39am

re: #863 .

Stormfront is an exaggeration. However, you get to see antisemitic cartoons there, now and then, like the "Zionist Octopus" cartoon during the flotilla incident.

Well stormfront is an open forum so it is a bit different. Mondowiess is more like the Council of Conservative Citizens or Pat Buchanan's site. I think those are fair comparisons.

868 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:27:45am

re: #857 Gus

Of course I didn't read Mondoweiss's dociere nor Philip Weiss's. Perhaps he's on the "prohibited reading list" as well which now puts me on the blacklist.

Of course you may continue to read and cite Mondoweiss the same as you may continue to read and cite Pamela Geller.

869 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:27:53am

And since I don't want to get ganged up on the way thing usually happen here I am done.

870 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:27:59am

re: #866 Gus

Assimilate or get out. The other alternative is silence.

C'mon. I think nobody stops anyone here (except Charles).

871 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:28:33am

re: #868 Vicious Babushka

Of course you may continue to read and cite Mondoweiss the same as you may continue to read and cite Pamela Geller.

Fine. Then we should ban Talking Points Memo by default.

872 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:29:42am

re: #871 Gus

Fine. Then we should ban Talking Points Memo by default.

You know very well nobody is banning TPM.

873 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:30:58am

re: #872 .

You know very well nobody is banning TPM.

I'm done. I don't even use the God damned phrase myself.

874 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:31:45am

re: #871 Gus

Fine. Then we should ban Talking Points Memo by default.

Where did Talking Points Memo get this information? Independently by themselves or did they rely on Mondoweiss?

Any individual article that appears at any individual site is only as good as the sources that it uses. A site that already has a reputation for crap has less credibility than a site that is known for honest investigation.

That said, a site that is generally reliable does not automatically validate information that it may receive from, say, Breitbart or Pam Geller.

875 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:33:05am

re: #873 Gus

I'm done. I don't even use the God damned phrase myself.

I haven't seen it used here anywhere. I don't see what's the big deal. What just happened was an exchange of opinions, and that was fine, no?

876 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:34:35am

KT expressed his, Gus expressed his. What's the prob?

877 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:35:03am

re: #876 .

KT expressed his, Gus expressed his. What's the prob?

I'll do some breathing exercises.

878 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:37:12am

re: #877 Gus

I'll do some breathing exercises.

That's always good for the health.

879 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:37:17am

Even the White House has denounced it.
White House troubled by ‘anti-Semitic think tank'

The media firestorm unleashed by allegedly anti- Semitic bloggers at a prominent think tank affiliated with the US Democratic Party resulted Thursday in a White House Jewish affairs official terming the situation at the Center for American Progress to be “troubling.”

According to a Washington Post online article on Thursday, Jarrod Bernstein, the new White House liaison with the Jewish community, told Rabbi Abraham Cooper, the associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, that what was unfolding at CAP was “troubling,” and, “that [the attitude toward Israel at the think tank] is not this administration.”

It is a troubling attitude and it's not outrageous to be offended by it.

880 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:38:08am

re: #869 Gus

And since I don't want to get ganged up on the way thing usually happen here I am done.

All right I went to TPM to see the article for myself, what I saw was one asshole (MJ Rosenberg) calling another asshole (Phillip Weiss) a "courageous journalist."

MJ Rosenberg and Phillip Weiss are both well known for their ferocious anti-Zionist views. While they may, on occasion, make a truthful statement, some third-party validation should be required.

881 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:39:54am

re: #880 Vicious Babushka

Yep. Not a big deal.

882 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:41:23am

re: #880 Vicious Babushka

All right I went to TPM to see the article for myself, what I saw was one asshole (MJ Rosenberg) calling another asshole (Phillip Weiss) a "courageous journalist."

MJ Rosenberg and Phillip Weiss are both well known for their ferocious anti-Zionist views. While they may, on occasion, make a truthful statement, some third-party validation should be required.

I would also add that TPM's coverage of issues in general is pretty good. But mainstreaming this kind of thing is dangerous and potentially toxic. It's a personal choice for me to not give them my traffic. Think Progress has a much larger problem.

883 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:42:00am

re: #879 Killgore Trout

A deceptive headline, if there ever was one.

884 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:42:07am

re: #879 Killgore Trout

Even the White House has denounced it.
White House troubled by ‘anti-Semitic think tank'

It is a troubling attitude and it's not outrageous to be offended by it.

Just a note. Benjamin Weinthal is a member of Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

885 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:42:17am

re: #883 .

A deceptive headline, if there ever was one.

See below.

886 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:42:33am

re: #879 Killgore Trout

Even the White House has denounced it.
White House troubled by ‘anti-Semitic think tank'

It is a troubling attitude and it's not outrageous to be offended by it.

Well, imagine that there is not a lock-step ideological party line. Imagine that there are differing opinions on issues, sometimes vastly differeing opinions on issues and it is the job of the Administration to develop policies in light of all these opinions...

Nah.

I will stick to shouting, carrying crudely worded signs and denouncing anyone who disagrees with me as anti-American Socilist Kenyan Muslim secularists.


/

887 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:42:43am

re: #884 Gus

Just a note. Benjamin Weinthal is a member of Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

...

FDD is one of several hawkish pressure groups founded in the wake of 9/11 that helped build support for the U.S. military intervention in Iraq and other “war on terror” policies. Similar groups included the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, the Committee on the Present Danger (which FDD later took over), and Americans for Victory over Terrorism. Shortly after its founding, FDD quickly developed into a prominent member of the group of neoconservative-aligned think tanks and advocacy groups—including the American Enterprise Institute and the Hudson Institute—that were influential in shaping the early foreign policy priorities of the George W. Bush administration.

888 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:43:37am

In "White House troubled by ‘anti-Semitic think tank'", ‘anti-Semitic think tank' is in quotes, indicating that the WH called CAP that.

889 Charleston Chew  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:43:58am

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890 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:44:29am

More on FDD from the same link:

During the Obama Era

After the election of President Barack Obama, FDD became a prominent opponent of the administration, pressuring for more aggressive action against Iran and criticizing efforts to negotiate with “enemy” states. FDD figures like Reuel Marc Gerecht and Michael Ledeen have been among the more vociferous hawks calling for U.S. military intervention in Iran and elsewhere, arguing that religious militants must be “defeated.”[4] FDD president Clifford May has charged the Obama administration with being “feckless” in everything from its response to WikiLeaks to its defense of Israel.[5]

In early December 2010, FDD hosted its annual forum on the theme of “Countering the Iranian threat.” The conference’s keynote speaker was then-newly elected Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL), who argued that President Obama should reach out to exiled members of the Iranian opposition Green Movement, increase aid to Iranian democracy groups, and make Iranian political prisoners "household names throughout America" like President Ronald Reagan did with Soviet detainees in the 1980s.[6]

A fundraising dinner linked to the forum became a matter of controversy when it was revealed that FDD held the dinner at the residence of the Pakistani ambassador without notifying the Pakistan embassy of its link to the forum and the theme. Although FDD disputed the connection between the fundraising effort and the dinner, the dinner was listed as one of the conference events on the FDD website.[7] According to the Inter Press Service (IPS), “The [Pakistani] embassy was unaware even that the conference was occurring, let alone that it featured FDD scholars and fellows who advocate for ‘ratcheting up’ sanctions and pressure, U.S. support for regime change, and even Israeli or U.S. military strikes against Pakistan's ally Iran. ‘Pakistan and Iran are brotherly countries and neighboring countries, brotherly Muslim countries,’ Imran Gardezi, a spokesperson for the Pakistani embassy, told IPS. ‘Anything against Iran is unthinkable for us.’”[8] IPS reported that the Pakistan ambassador, Husain Haqqani, and May are old friends, and that Haqqani is a former fellow at another neocon organization, the Hudson Institute.[9]

891 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:45:11am

re: #890 Gus

I like the "two can play that game" game ;)

892 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:45:17am

Gotcha!

//

893 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:45:58am

re: #891 Sergey Romanov

I like the "two can play that game" game ;)

Hey! Quit reading my mind.

Sorry I got a little bent out of shape before.

894 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:46:27am

I'm tweaking the display name feature to avoid some of the problems that have turned up - rules for the display name are now the same as for usernames. Sergey, that means your '.' name is a no-go. Display names must be at least 4 characters long.

895 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:48:01am

And. I don't even read Mondoweiss nor MJ. Last thing I was reading was Boehner's stupid comments on the contraception nonsense.

896 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:48:29am

re: #894 Charles Johnson

I'm tweaking the display name feature to avoid some of the problems that have turned up - rules for the display name are now the same as for usernames. Sergey, that means your '.' name is a no-go. Display names must be at least 4 characters long.

4? What about...Gus? Bob, Jim, Sue, Tim... ;)

897 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:49:57am

re: #894 Charles Johnson

I'm tweaking the display name feature to avoid some of the problems that have turned up - rules for the display name are now the same as for usernames. Sergey, that means your '.' name is a no-go. Display names must be at least 4 characters long.

Heh, no prob.

Couple of issues I noticed.

1. Output of the dynamically added comments differs from the comments that are displayed after page reload. In the former cases Unicode is displayed OK, in the second as a bunch of numerical codes.

2. In any case, the 6 symbols without spaces limit seems to be at work in the dispname field, i.e. those unicode symbols/codes break down in the middle.

3. Is it possible to increase the letter limit for Unicode dispnames in the account settings?

898 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:50:04am

re: #895 Gus

And. I don't even read Mondoweiss nor MJ. Last thing I was reading was Boehner's stupid comments on the contraception nonsense.

The meme "A Jewish person said it, so it can't be anti-Semitic!" is not valid when quoting asshats like Modoweiss, MJ Rosenberg, and Neturei Karta.

899 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:50:12am

re: #896 Gus

Oops. ;)

900 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:50:20am

re: #877 Gus

I'll do some breathing exercises.

I'm thinking of Herve Villechaize in Airplane... someone said to take a little breather...

Can't find it on video... so? I'm linking directly into your imagination.

901 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:50:57am

re: #896 Gus

Gussy will work, no?

902 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:51:23am

re: #901 Tommy

Gussy will work, no?

Maybe Gustafer.

//

903 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:51:52am

re: #902 Gus

Maybe Gustafer.

//

Gustav. Or Gustav V, whichever you like.

904 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:52:14am

re: #896 Gus

4? What about...Gus? Bob, Jim, Sue, Tim... ;)

OK -- I adjusted it to 3 characters.

905 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:52:32am

re: #904 Charles Johnson

OK -- I adjusted it to 3 characters.

Awesome. Thanks.

906 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:53:23am

re: #904 Charles Johnson

OK -- I adjusted it to 3 characters.

So, Obama's dog is not welcome here?!?!?!

//

907 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:53:39am

re: #898 Vicious Babushka

The meme "A Jewish person said it, so it can't be anti-Semitic!" is not valid when quoting asshats like Modoweiss, MJ Rosenberg, and Neturei Karta.

Understood. Like I said I wasn't defending the use. I was just pointing out that it came from elsewhere. Frankly, I think I failed at my defense of TPM and probably should have just kept my hands in my pockets.

908 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:54:57am

re: #897 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

When your avatar is small? Looks like Betty Boop. Nice hooters.

909 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:55:04am

re: #906 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

So, Obama's dog is not welcome here?!?!?!

//

Nor Ms. Derek.

//

910 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:57:55am

re: #909 Gus

or Mr. Coholic

911 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:58:00am

I do have another question though. Since when is the Center for American Progress an "anti-semitic think tank?"

912 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:58:20am

re: #842 Ron Paul Ain't Winnin' Shit!

Let him with a free hand, cast the first stone.
-Dennis Miller

re: #908 Ron Paul Ain't Winnin' Shit!

When your avatar is small? Looks like Betty Boop. Nice hooters.

Hmm.

/

913 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:59:10am

re: #911 Gus

I do have another question though. Since when is the Center for American Progress an "anti-semitic think tank?"

Since various right-wing figures decided to dispose of it in a simple way.

914 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:59:26am

re: #904 Charles Johnson

Whenever I click on a link I get this popup window:

Stop running this script?
A script on this page is causing this browser to run slowly.
If it continues to run, your computer might become unresponsive.

Why yes, I am using IE8, sadly.

915 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:00:14am

тест

916 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:00:26am

re: #894 Charles Johnson

Sergey, that means your '.' name is a no-go.

Oppression!!!

re: #904 Charles Johnson

OK -- I adjusted it to 3 characters.

Favoritism!!!

//

917 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:01:10am

//

918 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:01:25am

re: #917 Влад
80;ми

Not very large.

919 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:02:25am

re: #917 Влад
80;ми

//

I thought wingnuts didn't get sarc.

920 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:03:48am

OK. That article at the JPost is a load of crap. Might as well have been written by Newt Gingrich. It's falsely trying to draw the White House and Democrats into the controversy.

921 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:04:05am

re: #914 Vicious Babushka

It's because IE8 is absolutely horrible at handling large pages like this one.

922 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:04:48am

re: #920 Gus

Lots of stuff at JPost is pretty partisan.

923 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:07:00am

re: #920 Gus

OK. That article at the JPost is a load of crap. Might as well have been written by Newt Gingrich. It's falsely trying to draw the White House and Democrats into the controversy.

The statement from the whitehouse is accurate. It's easily verifiable. It's a shitty thing to say, doesn't lead to a productive conversation. Defending it only perpetuates the problem and doesn't do Obama or the left in general any favors.

924 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:07:16am

re: #922 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

Lot's of stuff at JPost is pretty partisan.

Not to mention that their website has become more and more unreadable, due to crappy web design. I think they are making their main portal look hideous just in order to entice users inside the paywall, although I have a suspicion that their paywall portal is probably also hideous, just without the "Mom's Weird Trick" ads.

925 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:08:18am

re: #924 Vicious Babushka

That's their little Weird Trick.

926 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:08:50am

re: #923 Killgore Trout

The statement from the whitehouse is accurate. It's easily verifiable. It's a shitty thing to say, doesn't lead to a productive conversation. Defending it only perpetuates the problem and doesn't do Obama or the left in general any favors.

Perhaps the WH statement is true but the rest is basically a smear or hit piece on CAP, Think Progress, etc. It's a right-wing piece.

927 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:12:42am

"Committee on the Present Danger". That's downright Orwellian.

928 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:13:24am

Here's a much better report:

Center for American Progress, group tied to Obama, under fire from Israel advocates

The Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank closely aligned with the White House, is embroiled in a dispute with several Jewish organizations over charges that some center staffers have publicly used language that could be construed as anti-Israel or even anti-Semitic.

The controversy could add to divisions over Middle East policy among groups that are key political allies of President Obama, potentially complicating the president’s reelection outreach to some Jewish voters, just as he seeks to assure them of his commitment to Israel’s security amid fears of an Iran nuclear threat.

Officials at CAP, which publishes research and writing on many subjects, said the “inappropriate” language came only in personal tweets — not on CAP’s Web site or its ThinkProgress blog. The tweets were deleted, and the authors apologized.

Continues.

929 Gus  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:17:04am

Sorry about that "Michelle Malkin stage" comment KT. You know how I get.

930 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:19:17am

re: #928 Gus

Here's the Whitehouse statement...

Cooper conveyed his concerns about CAP during a White House meeting last week with Obama’s newly appointed Jewish community liaison, Jarrod Bernstein, who told Cooper that the situation at CAP was “troubling” and not reflective of “this administration.”

Also note that TP fired one of the guys for using the "Israel Firster" thing in personal tweets. TPM is still allowing M.J. Rosenberg to post it right on their website. I think it's a poor editorial decision but at least we know where he stands.

931 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:20:07am

re: #929 Gus

Sorry about that "Michelle Malkin stage" comment KT. You know how I get.

No worries. My already thick scales have toughened up considerably over the past few months.

932 Max  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 2:38:20pm

Nice new feature.


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