Live Video: CPAC 2012, With Bonus White Nationalists

Presidential candidates lend their names to promote white supremacism
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As we noted yesterday, this year CPAC is hosting a panel discussion featuring an outright, unspinnable white nationalist race hater, Peter Brimelow. When the organizers were confronted about this disgusting development, they refused to renounce Brimelow:

The American Conservative Union is standing by its decision to permit a panel at CPAC that includes a leading white nationalist figure, Peter Brimelow.

“CPAC is proud to have more than 150 sponsors and exhibitors this year,” said spokeswoman Kristy Campbell in an email. “This panel was not organized by the ACU, and specific questions on the event, content or speakers should be directed to the sponsoring organization. Cosponsors and affiliated events do not necessarily represent the opinions of the American Conservative Union.”

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301 comments
1 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:12:48am

server not found. (or maybe it's just IE8)

2 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:13:53am

I am working from home today and could watch this but I just can't bring myself to do it. Don't get me wrong I like a good horror film but this one features real people.

3 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:14:26am

re: #2 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance


They're just talking about how Obama hates all religion.

5 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:14:57am

re: #3 Obdicut

They're just talking about how Obama hates all religion.

I thought he favored Islam, practiced a brand of radical Christianity. Christ what is it.

6 dragonfire1981  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:15:40am

I wonder how much of this stuff will be used against the GOP nominee by the Obama campaign when the time comes?

7 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:17:10am

re: #6 dragonfire1981

I wonder how much of this stuff will be used against the GOP nominee by the Obama campaign when the time comes?

i guarantee they will be taping every speech given by the ones running. I also bet their super pac and others will be doing the dirty work for them so Obama's hands look clean.

8 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:17:35am
“This panel was not organized by the ACU, and specific questions on the event, content or speakers should be directed to the sponsoring organization..."

Damn. Their own conference and they don't even control their own panels. See what librulism has done?! //

9 Petero1818  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:18:43am

re: #8 Bulworth

Damn. Their own conference and they don't even control their own panels. See what librulism has done?! //

The Panel was revealed to them by the Lord.

10 darthstar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:19:44am

These guys are so fucking pathetic.
"It's not as doomy or gloomy as that...Obama carried Virginia, North Carolina and Florida in 2008...he won't win any of those states in 2012..." (applause)...and why the hell would he lose all those states? Increased employment? Killing Osama? Ending the unliked War in Iraq?

11 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:19:50am

Did I just hear that no Democrat has been elected president ever? Delusional much? And Mitch McConnell thinks "conservatives are more fun." Really this is a bunch of old dudes whining about how things aren't the way they want it. If that's fun then so is eating paint.

12 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:20:52am
“CPAC is proud to have more than 150 sponsors and exhibitors this year,” said spokeswoman Kristy Campbell in an email.

So they're proud to have the white supremicists.

Also, too, anybody know where GOProud is this year?

13 Petero1818  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:20:56am

Now they are worried about wining the Presidency, the House, and the Senate, and not being able to change enough. Maybe they are putting the cart before the horse.

14 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:20:56am

re: #3 Obdicut

They're just talking about how Obama hates all religion.

Love to see somebody try to square that with the stupid secret Muslim thing. Or his 20+ years attending a church.

15 makeitstop  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:21:22am

Is that Erickson on the left?

What a condescending asshole he is. Does he support Gingrich? It would make sense that one imperious asshole would support another.

16 dell*nix  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:21:24am

I don't have enough meds on hand to listen to this trash.

17 Lidane  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:21:42am

re: #11 HappyWarrior

Really this is a bunch of old dudes whining about how things aren't the way they want it.

Welcome to the 2011-2012 GOP.

Once Barack Obama got elected these assholes started clutching their pearls about how awful things are and how oppressed the white Christian man is. Give me a fucking break.

18 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:21:46am

re: #8 Bulworth

Indeed. A lame excuse like that simply does not fly. These assholes have completely ruined the brand. Call me a moderate from now on. I want nothing to do with this.

19 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:21:58am

BTW I would rate this video as NSFW...

20 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:22:23am

Thought for a minute this morning that Twitter had upgraded me and I could embed tweets, but no.

So here's a link, and a paste:

@splcenter SPLC
RT @daveweigel: Stayed just long enough at multiculturalism event to make it into next SPLC watch list #CPAC2012

21 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:24:05am

In case anyone missed these from downstairs...

22 darthstar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:24:06am

re: #19 Daniel Ballard

BTW I would rate this as NSFW...

Not safe for wombats.

23 Petero1818  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:24:22am

Ah yes, the Democrats are the meanest toughest and most vicious political activists.

24 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:24:27am

re: #20 wrenchwench

Thought for a minute this morning that Twitter had upgraded me and I could embed tweets, but no.

So here's a link, and a paste:

Glad he finds this funny. Weigel is such a hopeless case.

25 Kragar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:24:51am

re: #21 Slumbering Behemoth

In case anyone missed these from downstairs...

Horseshit.

26 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:26:13am

re: #21 Slumbering Behemoth

In case anyone missed these from downstairs...

You! Morning SB. ;)

27 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:26:35am

They love Rick Santorum: "There is no Constitutional right to privacy."

28 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:26:43am

re: #21 Slumbering Behemoth

In case anyone missed these from downstairs...

Is that the minority outreach seminar?

29 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:27:14am

re: #27 jaunte

They love Rick Santorum: "There is no Constitutional right to privacy."

Less government!

Liberty!!


Freedom! /

30 darthstar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:28:07am

re: #27 jaunte

They love Rick Santorum: "There is no Constitutional right to privacy."

Except for their privacy when they're in office.

31 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:29:30am

So now CNN can boast that their boy Erick Erickson was in the same room as white nationalists.

32 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:29:50am

re: #26 Gus

You! Morning SB. ;)

Apparently that's what they call this time of day. I gotta be honest, I don't much like it.

33 Spocomptonite  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:30:14am

LOL the ad for judicial watch. Transparency, ha ha ha.

34 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:30:26am

The #CPACpanels hashtag is pretty hilarious on Twitter right now. My contributions:

35 Petero1818  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:31:59am

Steve King Boehner...

36 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:32:05am

Boehner up to speak. This should be rather...bland.

37 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:32:29am
Right Wing Watch @RightWingWatch
#CPAC crowd loves Michele Bachmann. Actual Republican voters did not. That pretty much tells you everything you need to know about #CPAC.

"Let's fly this thing straight into the ground!"

38 Kragar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:33:25am

This Year’s CPAC Straw Poll Won’t Be ‘Stacked’ By Ron Paul Supporters, Organizers Claim

Al Cardenas, chair of the American Conservative Union which sponsors CPAC, told me at his Thursday morning press avail that there’s no sign of a Paul ticket buy-out in 2012 (Paul isn’t even here; he sent his son, Sen. Rand Paul [R-KY], to speak on his behalf while he campaigns in Maine). That was how Paul won in 2011: his supporters bought up 1,000 or so tickets and brought in Paulites just to cast their vote.

Cardenas said that he hasn’t seen signs that any other are trying to buy the vote either. CPAC organizers have also instituted new balloting procedures they say will boost turnout, which has generally been pretty low. This year, attendees can vote with their phones and iPads, instead of just through paper ballots.

“No one’s stacking the deck this year,” Cardenas said. “It’s a wide-open process. I don’t think any of [the candidates] want to be caught with a perception that they’re trying to stack the deck and then lose the straw ballot. … The outcome will be far less predictable.”

39 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:33:54am

"Entitlement's saved" and "Paul Ryan" don't go in the same sentence without the words "by privatization" are in there somewhere.

40 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:34:06am

Market-based reforms! Do tell.

41 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:34:34am

Reagan! DRINK!

42 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:35:45am

@MattLaslo
Poor Mr. Speaker just got introduced at #cpac as Rep. Steve King of Iowa. Must feel good to be so well known...

43 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:35:52am

re: #40 jaunte

Market-based reforms! Do tell.

Involves a wonder innovation called the "individual mandate" and...oh wait. //

44 Kragar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:37:15am

re: #43 Bulworth

Involves a wonder innovation called the "individual mandate" and...oh wait. //

These people are strictly anti- man dates.

45 Petero1818  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:37:45am

Boehner is boring. He is only moderately crazy and too jaded by reality. Bring on the nutters.

46 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:38:28am

re: #45 Petero1818

Boehner is boring. He is only moderately crazy and too jaded by reality. Bring on the nutters.

Sounds like he's trying to play to the crowd, who've got their religious fervor on.

47 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:41:13am

CPAC crowd concerned over religious freedom and the threat of creeping sharia.

48 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:44:42am

re: #15 makeitstop

Is that Erickson on the left?

What a condescending asshole he is. Does he support Gingrich? It would make sense that one imperious asshole would support another.

Conservative pipeline design. Pile assholes on top of each other so that the derp can safely flow through for a long distance.
//

49 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:44:52am

Boehner is really firing up the crowd.... zzzz.. zzz..

50 Kragar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:46:37am

Santorum: Obama Has Put America On ‘The Path’ Of Executing Religious People By Decapitation

SANTORUM: They are taking faith and crushing it. Why? Why? When you marginalize faith in America, when you remove the pillar of God-given rights, then what’s left is the French Revolution. What’s left is the government that gives you right, what’s left are no unalienable rights, what’s left is a government that will tell you who you are, what you’ll do and when you’ll do it. What’s left in France became the guillotine. Ladies and gentlemen, we’re a long way from that, but if we do and follow the path of President Obama and his overt hostility to faith in America, then we are headed down that road.

51 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:48:57am

Hmm. Alternate Theory.

CPAC is purposefully over the top in order to irritate the Democratic oysters into producing more pearls. Thus more available for the GOP to clutch after Obama wins (though this is only a facade since the free market for pearls has performed better.)
/

52 Sionainn  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:49:33am

I remember awhile back on LGF some people came up with some great words that basically meant "Christian Taliban." I can't remember what they were though. Can anyone help me out here?

53 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:49:57am

Charles,

Thanks for the recent round of upgrades to the site. A few observations/comments:

Any way to toggle the video in this thread (and others) so that they wont automagically run unless we want them to?

Also, any way that users can refresh the links on the sidebar without having to reload the page?

Again, thanks a bunch for all you do!

54 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:50:14am

re: #50 Kragar

He really sounds insane.

55 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:50:33am

This is goddamn disgusting. Such open racism. So many lies.

56 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:51:42am

re: #50 Kragar

Santorum: Obama Has Put America On ‘The Path’ Of Executing Religious People By Decapitation

Dear Rick,

Wrong lesson. Part of why the French Revolution happened is that the 1% ignored a bunch of warning signs that the 99% were sending. And since the Church was supportive of the status quo oligarchy a bunch of clerics got the chop as well.

57 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:51:47am

re: #52 Sionainn

I remember awhile back on LGF some people came up with some great words that basically meant "Christian Taliban." I can't remember what they were though. Can anyone help me out here?

Talibangelists?

Republicans?

58 iossarian  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:52:04am

Hear that, Republicans?

It's the sound of your fig leaves being whisked away by the chill breeze of hatred.

59 sagehen  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:52:49am

re: #52 Sionainn

I remember awhile back on LGF some people came up with some great words that basically meant "Christian Taliban." I can't remember what they were though. Can anyone help me out here?

Talibangelical.

61 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:53:58am

Respecting "individual freedoms and personal liberties" is a constant problem for conservative leaders.

62 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:54:07am

re: #52 Sionainn

I remember awhile back on LGF some people came up with some great words that basically meant "Christian Taliban." I can't remember what they were though. Can anyone help me out here?

I go with "Evangeliban."

63 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:54:14am

re: #50 Kragar

Santorum: Obama Has Put America On ‘The Path’ Of Executing Religious People By Decapitation

I'll wager he meant it the other way around. Revolution, followed by the decapitation of our disposed leaders.

64 Kragar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:54:50am

re: #62 Targetpractice

I go with "Evangeliban."

I'll stick with the old "Evil fuckers" stand by.

65 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:55:10am

I tuned in just in time for some jackass to proclaim how committed conservatives are to individual liberties.

Sorry, jackass. The people you're addressing are not conservatives. They're revolutionaries. And their commitment to individual liberty is about as deep and firm as Josef Stalin's.

66 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:55:16am

Get the maple syrup!

67 bratwurst  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:55:20am

Is Boehner more ineffectual as a speaker or as a Speaker?

68 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:55:29am

He couldn't remember Reagan's name for a second.

69 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:55:58am

re: #52 Sionainn

I remember awhile back on LGF some people came up with some great words that basically meant "Christian Taliban." I can't remember what they were though. Can anyone help me out here?

Talibaptists?

70 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:56:14am

re: #53 lawhawk

Charles,

Thanks for the recent round of upgrades to the site. A few observations/comments:

Any way to toggle the video in this thread (and others) so that they wont automagically run unless we want them to?

Also, any way that users can refresh the links on the sidebar without having to reload the page?

Again, thanks a bunch for all you do!

I do try to have the videos not autostart, but this one doesn't have that option.

Reloading the Pages in the right sidebar is actually on the to-do list already.

71 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:56:25am

re: #68 jaunte

He couldn't remember Reagan's name for a second.

Infidel. Execute him!

/Santorum oh wait... /

72 Sionainn  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:56:31am

re: #57 wrenchwench

re: #59 sagehen

re: #62 Targetpractice

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel

Thanks!

73 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:56:53am

Rick Perry introduced like a rock star to adoring screams. This is not a parody, this just actually happened. What the fuck. That dude lost. He lost really bad. His approval rating in his own state dropped like a stone because they felt he embarrassed them. Why is he being treated like he achieved something?

In US faux-conservative land, there are no losers, as long as you're conservative enough it doesn't matter that you couldn't beat Ron Paul's numbers.

74 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:57:49am

They keep bringing up Reagan and I will be drunk before long.

75 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:57:59am

I don't know what's more annoying, CPAC or the "Weird Mom Dermatologists Hate Her!" ads on Huffpo.

76 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:58:06am
SANTORUM: They are taking faith and crushing it. Why? Why? When you marginalize faith in America, when you remove the pillar of God-given rights, then what’s left is the French Revolution. What’s left is the government that gives you right, what’s left are no unalienable rights, what’s left is a government that will tell you who you are, what you’ll do and when you’ll do it. What’s left in France became the guillotine. Ladies and gentlemen, we’re a long way from that, but if we do and follow the path of President Obama and his overt hostility to faith in America, then we are headed down that road.

Oh, you mean the kind of government that doesn't respect the Right to Privacy, right? As$hole.

77 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:58:15am

re: #73 Obdicut

No, the only thing that matters is that you're opposed to the Democrats, and Obama in specific. Everything else is window dressing.

78 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:58:41am

Washington meddling!

79 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:58:50am

Creeping Sharia? I'm more concerned with creepy creeping Christian Theocracy. How about we compare a woman denied an abortion, who dies as a result and honor killings? Is that too harsh?

80 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:58:56am

Shadowy black-robed cabal!

81 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:59:41am

Unplanned parentage, Yay!

82 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 10:59:42am

Remind me again why Perry got his ass voted off the island so early? Oh right, because he's great with prepared speeches, but absolute shit in debates. *rolls eyes*

83 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:00:00am

re: #77 lawhawk

No, the only thing that matters is that you're opposed to the Democrats, and Obama in specific. Everything else is window dressing.

The completely racist anti-obama video, with scenes of black people rioting, showing Kenya, and using "anti-colonial" like it's a negative-- that was amazingly over the top. Completely blatant racism. And this is where Mitt Romney, supposed moderate, is having no trouble getting up and speaking.

No matter how low I set my expectations for the GOP they find a lower moral gutter to crawl into.

84 jamesfirecat  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:00:13am

re: #82 Targetpractice

Remind me again why Perry got his ass voted off the island so early? Oh right, because he's great with prepared speeches, but absolute shit in debates. *rolls eyes*

And he ran out of money and.... uh.... um... I know there was a third one...... EPA?

85 Kragar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:00:35am

re: #80 jaunte

Shadowy black-robed cabal!

THATS MY BAND!

86 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:01:14am

"True 10th Amendment Patriots!"

87 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:01:20am

re: #50 Kragar

Santorum: Obama Has Put America On ‘The Path’ Of Executing Religious People By Decapitation

If anybody resembles the Jacobins, it's these loons.

88 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:01:22am

10th Amendment Patriots, secede with Texas!

89 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:01:33am

re: #75 Look At My New Grandbaby!

I don't know what's more annoying, CPAC or the "Weird Mom Dermatologists Hate Her!" ads on Huffpo.

You do realize that's part of marketing.

They found that annoying ads are more effective than ones you like.

Seriously.

90 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:01:51am

"Liberals Ate My Baby: The Imminent Threat of Human Fetus Food Products" #CPACPanels

91 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:02:04am

"Religious Freedom: Why Muslims Shouldn't Have It" #CPACPanels

92 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:02:12am

"Who Do Liberals Think They're Fooling With This 'Science' Hooey?" #CPACPanels

93 Kragar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:02:54am

re: #86 jaunte

"True 10th Amendment Patriots!"

STATES RIGHTS!

"We're legalizing gay marriage in the state."

WE NEED A FEDERAL MARRIAGE LAW!

94 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:02:57am

War on faith!

95 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:03:48am

"War on Faith," specifically any that doesn't fit the Religious Right's very narrow interpretation of the Christian faith. The rest, well, that's government's role to crack down on them.

/

96 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:03:58am

Role... goal... soul... mole?

97 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:04:07am

Strong military, to defend against the war on faith!

98 Kragar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:04:26am

re: #94 wrenchwench

War on faith!

Other faiths given the freedom to worship as they choose is oppression.

99 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:05:01am

re: #98 Kragar

Other faiths given the freedom to worship as they choose is oppression.

We must get government off the backs of Christians...and onto the war against shariah!!

//

100 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:05:27am

re: #83 Obdicut

No matter how low I set my expectations for the GOP they find a lower moral gutter to crawl into.

To quote Cyrus the Virus, "I place them somewhere between pond slime and that white stuff that collects on the corner of your mouth when you sleep."

101 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:05:51am

Oddly enough, Perry has used Government to remove risk from his own real-estate investments.

102 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:06:01am

Pretty small applause for breaking up the cabal on Wall Street....

103 Kragar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:07:48am

After Report, Islamophobic Group Scrubs Quote Legitimizing Anti-Muslim Norwegian Mass Murderer

On Tuesday, ThinkProgress reported on the discovery by Demographics United that the Islamophobic filmmakers at the Clarion Fund sent an e-mail newsletter promoting a quote from a reader that attempted to legitimate the views of anti-Muslim Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik.

In the 1,500-page manifesto he wrote before slaughtering 77 people, Breivik, who appeared in court this week, recommended a Clarion Film for “further study” about Islam. The reader in the newsletter, whom Clarion claimed was writing from Norway, both whitewashed Breivik’s worldview — falsely suggesting his opposition was only to “Islamist terrorism” rather than to the religion Islam in general — and seemed to claim that a new report from Norway’s security agencies vindicated the mass-killer’s views.

As of yesterday, the comment by the “reader in Norway” no longer appeared on the Clarion site, [Link: www.radicalislam.org....] The entire newsletter, which used to be available on the web by clicking on a link in the e-mail, now takes viewers to a Clarion page that reads: “The requested page could not be found” (pictured above right). Reached on his cellphone, Clarion official Alex Traiman declined to comment to repeated questions about the newsletter and its disappearance from the web.

104 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:08:50am

A smaller, humbler federal government...that uses its powers to stifle rights of those who don't pass the religious litmus test.

//

105 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:08:57am

"It's about restoring power to the [right] American people."

106 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:09:29am

Take this country back...to the 18th century!

//

107 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:09:33am

Well Rick just pissed off the 1 percenters with that tirade.

108 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:09:34am

Aggie Cheerleader.

109 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:10:06am

re: #27 jaunte

They love Rick Santorum: "There is no Constitutional right to privacy."

He might be right that the word doesn't show up in there (and neither does the word/name "god", but has that ever made a difference to him). But it does say at one point:

Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Sounds like my privacy cannot be infringed upon without a very good reason.

110 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:10:53am

re: #109 RayFerd

He might be right that the word doesn't show up in there (and neither does the word/name "god", but has that ever made a difference to him). But it does say at one point:

Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Sounds like my privacy cannot be infringed upon without a very good reason.

But conservatives are for less government... //

111 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:11:04am

"When you show up one of our volunteers will tick you off."

They ticked me off a long time ago...

112 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:11:28am

I turned the video off. I didn't listen to Perry before, why would I start now?

113 Kragar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:11:29am

re: #111 wrenchwench

"When you show up one of our volunteers will tick you off."

They ticked me off a long time ago...

ZING!

114 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:11:36am

Seriously? Is that who I think it is?

115 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:12:28am

Maybe Kirk will give them some anti-Darwinist talk.

116 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:12:31am

He's wearing a Santorum sweater vest. Does that constitute an endorsement?

117 M. Dubious  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:13:03am

KIRK CAMERON! HE LOVES CHILDREN!

118 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:13:20am

Is that Kirk "Crocoduck" Cameron?

119 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:13:32am

re: #109 RayFerd

Moreover, that it asks for particulars of the thing to searched for and seized actually is a stronger right to privacy than we currently have.

120 Kragar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:13:45am

Kirk fucking Cameron? Are you fucking kidding me?

121 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:13:55am

re: #118 Charles Johnson

Is that Kirk "Crocoduck" Cameron?

Yep! To boldly go where CPAC has never gone before.

122 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:14:42am

The Crocoduck itself is giving a breakout seminar on irreducible Behe.

123 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:14:57am

re: #120 Kragar

Kirk fucking Cameron? Are you fucking kidding me?

Those exact words were just about to fly off my fingertips.

Unbelievable.

124 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:15:03am

Whoa...

125 M. Dubious  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:15:23am

Kirk Cameron brings perspective because he has six kids!

126 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:16:10am

Stick a fork in this crapfest.

127 M. Dubious  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:16:30am

Teachers won't read what's on the money because they're afraid of breaking the law!

128 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:16:37am

Kirk! Ray Comfort has the fruit!

129 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:16:45am

*sigh* Well, there went my childhood, back under the treads of the bus.

130 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:16:53am

Cameron: "When something's wrong with a fruit, you don't fix the fruit..."

I'm not touching that one.

131 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:17:07am

re: #125 M. Dubious

Kirk Cameron brings perspective because he has six kids!

I have more kids than Kirk Cameron so he can suck my shorts. (figuratively speaking that is, I do not want him anywhere near my shorts!)

132 Kragar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:17:10am

6 Beloved TV Shows (That Traumatized Cast Members For Life)

The Show:

80s middle-class family learns to live and love and finds Leonardo DiCaprio living in a dumpster.

But Behind The Scenes...

Teen heartthrob Kirk Cameron learns to love Jesus and finds sin in all of his costars.

133 Sionainn  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:17:12am

I'm concerned that I'm going to do serious damage to myself with the eye rolling I'm doing.

134 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:17:15am

re: #125 M. Dubious

why couldn't he have gone the way of otheer child stars from the 80's? drug addled and in the tabloids.

135 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:17:15am

re: #128 jaunte

Kirk! Ray Comfort has the fruit!

I'm sure the Crocoduck is enjoying a nice banana split with extra whipped cream right now.

136 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:18:03am

The bicycles are calling me....

137 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:18:09am

"We've forgotten our valley yous."

138 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:18:33am

Wow, total fetishization of the founding fathers -- "if I could go back and talk to them, they'd tell us what's wrong and how to fix it!"

139 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:18:59am

I think I'll go back to listening to Gotye's Somebody that I used to Know.

A few more dozen times.

140 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:18:59am

re: #124 Charles Johnson

Whoa...

I wish I could say I was surprised but everything I've seen about Steve King, yep.

141 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:19:13am

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Wow, total fetishization of the founding fathers -- "if I could go back and talk to them, they'd tell us what's wrong and how to fix it!"

I thought the CPAC crew already knew what's wrong..../

142 M. Dubious  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:19:14am

Out of the wildernes the people fixed the greatest country on earth and I wish my name was Marty McFly but I did the next best thing and bought a ticket to England! Funny costumes with beltbuckets on their shoes!

143 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:19:32am

"Kirk, you've got to kill the rest of the Wampanoag."

144 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:19:45am

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Wow, total fetishization of the founding fathers -- "if I could go back and talk to them, they'd tell us what's wrong and how to fix it!"

They think the Founding Fathers will tell them to go back and unfree the slaves.

145 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:20:24am

re: #144 Look At My New Grandbaby!

They think the Founding Fathers will tell them to go back and unfree the slaves.

Not Washington, Jefferson, Adams, or Franklin. They'd dance a jig. Or a minuet. Whatever.

146 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:20:27am

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Wow, total fetishization of the founding fathers -- "if I could go back and talk to them, they'd tell us what's wrong and how to fix it!"

It's you, dude. You're what's wrong.

- Founding Father

147 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:21:05am

re: #124 Charles Johnson

Whoa...

This is the politician, not the writer, correct?

148 M. Dubious  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:21:13am

The boat's rocket fuel was so powerful!

149 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:21:18am

Kirk must have seen National Treasure recently.

150 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:21:20am

What a trip this whole thing has become. CPAC has managed to go further to the right.

151 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:21:35am

It's pathetic how these guys think they're the heirs of the founders. Pretty sure the founders would have a problem with you trying to force your religious beliefs on the rest of us and your anti science beliefs would make Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin sooooooo happy.

152 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:22:04am

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Wow, total fetishization of the founding fathers -- "if I could go back and talk to them, they'd tell us what's wrong and how to fix it!"

Well first, they'd tell Cameron that religion was not the focus of this new republic, that they'd actually kept religion out of the Constitution so as not to repeat the situation that existed in England with the Church and State being effectively one, and that no religion has the right to tell all people of this nation what they can and can't do based upon a narrow reading of religious doctrine.

153 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:22:15am

"Some anti-faith organization"

154 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:22:20am

I also wonder what the Founding Fathers would think of our Military Industrial Complex....

155 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:22:20am

re: #147 Ooh, look, shiny...

This is the politician, not the writer, correct?

Yeah the Congressman from Iowa, the writer is a big time Democratic contributor and support who wouldn't be caught dead at this circle jerk.

156 Charleston Chew  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:22:21am

re: #148 M. Dubious

The boat's rocket fuel was so powerful!

Quiet! He's telling me where the map to the rocket fuel is!

157 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:22:32am

re: #150 Gus

Overton Screen Door!!!

158 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:23:12am

Was that Jim Gaffigan?

159 M. Dubious  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:23:29am

Does Kirk Cameron know he's rooting for a Mormon?

160 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:23:33am

re: #149 jaunte

Kirk must have seen National Treasure recently.

If Benjamin Franklin Gates ever shows up, I'm sticking to him like glue just for the grins. I couldn't figure out why in II, the president didn't say, "Fine, have what you want, but take me with you. It will beat giving the SOTU."

161 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:23:38am

re: #154 Bulworth

I also wonder what the Founding Fathers would think of our Military Industrial Complex...

Likely would point out that we're not meant to have a permanently standing Army, that the Navy's job is to handle piracy and ensure international commerce, and would be agog at the idea of air power.

162 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:23:45am

This film trailer is freaking hilarious. Good grief.

163 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:23:48am

What if the Founding Fathers didn't tell CPAC what they wanted to hear?

164 M. Dubious  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:23:55am

re: #156 Charleston Chew

Quiet! He's telling me where the map to the rocket fuel is!

They left a paper trail!

165 Kragar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:24:18am

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Wow, total fetishization of the founding fathers -- "if I could go back and talk to them, they'd tell us what's wrong and how to fix it!"

"First thing, but down the Bible and try reading a few other books."

166 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:24:28am

re: #162 Charles Johnson

This film trailer is freaking hilarious. Good grief.

What movie is this?

167 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:24:30am

re: #164 M. Dubious

They left a paper trail!

Then they'd be anti American liberals or worse Marxists.

168 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:24:38am

Nice shot of Cameron "thinking hard."

169 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:24:46am

re: #151 HappyWarrior

It's pathetic how these guys think they're the heirs of the founders. Pretty sure the founders would have a problem with you trying to force your religious beliefs on the rest of us and your anti science beliefs would make Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin sooo happy.

There were no large international corporations back then, the very concept of the multinational was alien to them.

And the notion of granting them legal personhood would have been abhorrent.

170 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:24:54am

re: #163 Bulworth

What if the Founding Fathers didn't tell CPAC what they wanted to hear?

FINO!
Founders In Name Only!

171 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:25:04am

re: #168 jaunte

Nice shot of Cameron "thinking hard."

Without a beard nor a pipe!

172 Charleston Chew  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:25:10am

Why hasn't Kirk Cameron left me behind yet? I was looking forward to being rid of him.

173 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:25:15am

Conservatives love that Trajan font.

174 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:25:18am

re: #163 Bulworth

What if the Founding Fathers didn't tell CPAC what they wanted to hear?

They would be summarily dismissed as the CPAC people went further back in time consulting such luminaries as Attila the Hun and Ghengis Khan.

175 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:25:25am

Really this is what I love about the right. Act like liberals rely too much on celebrities and then get Kirk Cameron to talk about American history.

176 jaunte  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:26:01am

Little House on the Land of the Free Families

177 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:26:03am

"Monumental."

The film is Kirk Cameron taking a tour of Washington DC's monuments, while musing about how fucked up America is, and how the only way to save it is to "go back."

178 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:26:07am

re: #174 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

They would be summarily dismissed as the CPAC people went further back in time consulting such luminaries as Attila the Hun and Ghengis Khan.

Genghis Khan was pretty liberal by CPAC standards.

179 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:26:08am

So CPAC is pimping a Kirk Cameron movie? What fucking planet is this?

180 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:26:25am

re: #161 Targetpractice

Likely would point out that we're not meant to have a permanently standing Army, that the Navy's job is to handle piracy and ensure international commerce, and would be agog at the idea of air power.

Most of them would love to get a chance to fly a Predator around.

And we could get Franklin some treatment for his gout.

181 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:26:48am

re: #179 Slumbering Behemoth

So CPAC is pimping a Kirk Cameron movie? What fucking planet is this?

Earth.

I think. Hang on let me check...

182 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:26:49am

re: #178 Contains 17% Spartacus by Weight

Genghis Khan was pretty liberal by CPAC standards.

This is true. I hear the Mongols were pretty progressive for their time on women's issues. Ergo buncha Femongols.

183 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:27:00am

re: #177 Charles Johnson

"Monumental."

The film is Kirk Cameron taking a tour of Washington DC"s monuments, while musing about how fucked up America is, and how the only way to save it is to "go back."

You mean like witch hunts and fines for people who do not attend church without overriding reasons of health?

184 Charleston Chew  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:27:00am

re: #173 jaunte

Conservatives love that Trajan font.

So do the movies:

Image: trajan-movie-font.jpg

185 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:27:12am

Wow, they're not even pretending to hide the ugly or the crazy anymore.

LOL, they're rewriting history based on the claim that it's been rewritten. Amazing. Scary. The Truth™... The Right World View™... White. Male-dominated. Christian.

186 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:27:19am

I'm gonna be very disappointed if Kirk doesn't mention the Crocoduck.

Oh well, there he goes. I has a sad.

187 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:27:44am

Which celebrity is next?

188 Charleston Chew  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:27:46am

I'm can't be more sincere...

...tickets on sale now.

189 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:28:11am

re: #182 HappyWarrior

This is true. I hear the Mongols were pretty progressive for their time on women's issues. Ergo buncha Femongols.

Also freedom of religion.

190 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:28:12am

re: #187 Bulworth

Which celebrity is next?

Probably another has been. And you know Toby Keith's music is playing there. Was reading an article today about candidates' choices in music, Romney in particular and Romney's had some interesting choices.

191 Charleston Chew  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:28:17am

This isn't a political conference. It's a trade show.

192 M. Dubious  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:28:26am

Kirk was awful.

I have great hopes for the next guy!

193 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:28:36am

CREEPING SHARIAH!!!!!!!!

194 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:28:49am

Speak of the devil. This is Clifford D. May which I mentioned yesterday regarding that hit piece in JPost.

195 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:29:08am

re: #193 CuriousLurker

CREEPING SHARIAH!!!

Exactly.

196 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:29:22am

re: #169 ralphieboy

There were no large international corporations back then, the very concept of the multinational was alien to them.

And the notion of granting them legal personhood would have been abhorrent.

They had some idea, with the East India Trading Company being one of the reasons why the Revolution began in the first place. So to hear that such companies, who used their power and influence to press governments into levying oppressive taxes on the locals, now are being worshiped by one half of the very government they were creating, would be shocking.

197 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:29:56am

Go back? Left behind?

Who cares what Cameron has to say. He's an ignorant blowhard whose worldview is so skewed by his religious blinders that he has no idea just how good he's got it.

Besides, I'm still pissed at Kirk Cameron for the firing of Julie McCullough from Growing Pains.

198 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:30:18am

Holy smokes.

199 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:30:30am

It really is nothing but white males.

200 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:30:54am

Saudi Arabia = good.

201 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:31:07am

re: #177 Charles Johnson

"Monumental."

The film is Kirk Cameron taking a tour of Washington DC's monuments, while musing about how fucked up America is, and how the only way to save it is to "go back."

The monuments conspicuously based on Greco-Roman pagan temples, plus the occasional Egyptian obelisk?

The lack of awareness is palpable.

202 Olsonist  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:31:12am

re: #199 Gus

A sausage festival?

No, Saudi Arabia not good.

203 Charleston Chew  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:31:18am

re: #178 Contains 17% Spartacus by Weight

Genghis Khan was pretty liberal by CPAC standards.

Khan promoted religious tolerance.

204 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:31:26am

The mask slips, catholic church lawyer reveals that it's not about freedom of religion, it's really about contraception in general

205 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:31:40am

"Middle East monarchies have a good deal of legitimacy"

Heck yes, nothing that cannot be solved by going back to feudalism.

206 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:31:43am

We want to help the Saudis.

207 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:32:02am

re: #201 The Ghost of a Flea

And the overt and hidden Masonry symbolism?

208 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:32:07am

re: #203 Charleston Chew

then they'd go even further back.

209 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:32:16am

re: #199 Gus

It really is nothing but white males.

I presume the panel that included someone from the Frederick Douglass Society will cover token reps for various minorities.

210 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:32:18am

re: #205 ralphieboy

"Middle East monarchies have a good deal of legitimacy"

Heck yes, nothing that cannot be solved by going back to feudalism.

Bring back the king!

211 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:32:29am

re: #206 CuriousLurker

We want to help the Saudis.

Abrams is a slime ball.

212 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:32:38am

re: #201 The Ghost of a Flea

The monuments conspicuously based on Greco-Roman pagan temples, plus the occasional Egyptian obelisk?

The lack of awareness is palpable.

Yes, those monuments.

213 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:33:14am

Axis of Evil!

214 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:33:30am

re: #205 ralphieboy

"Middle East monarchies have a good deal of legitimacy"

Heck yes, nothing that cannot be solved by going back to feudalism.

Oh, said legitimacy based upon France and Britain (for the most part) setting them up after World War I?

215 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:33:47am

By the way, it was three years ago today that I wrote this: Why I Parted Ways With the Right.

216 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:34:29am

re: #215 Charles Johnson

By the way, it was three years ago today that I wrote this: Why I Parted Ways With the Right.

The best decision you ever made in your life.

217 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:34:45am

re: #215 Charles Johnson

By the way, it was three years ago today that I wrote this: Why I Parted Ways With the Right.

A day that will live in infamy...

218 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:35:08am

re: #214 Dept of the Current Danger

Oh, said legitimacy based upon France and Britain (for the most part) setting them up after World War I?

Yep. Seriously do these clowns have any common sense? You can't go around talking about how you love freedom and then apologize for absolute monarchies which is what pretty much all the middle eastern ones are especially Saudi Arabia.

219 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:35:30am

re: #215 Charles Johnson

By the way, it was three years ago today that I wrote this: Why I Parted Ways With the Right.

Sláinte

220 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:35:56am

re: #207 lawhawk

And the overt and hidden Masonry symbolism?

That too.

Are Masons officially in the no-no book from Cameron-style fundamentalists?

221 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:36:22am

Who are these men?

222 Olsonist  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:36:48am

re: #215 Charles Johnson

Charles, you might be wrong on that: Mon Nov 30, 2009. I remember because I signed up pretty soon afterwards.

223 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:37:07am

Muslims are EVIL...

224 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:37:28am

Eminem and 50 Cent? The fuck?

Fuck it. I'm outta this nut-fest. Gonna go squash some zombies. Later Lizards.

225 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:37:45am

re: #221 Ooh, look, shiny...

Who are these men?

One is Elliott Abrams.

226 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:37:55am

Islam is BAD... The only good Muslims are the ones who don't practice Islam.

227 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:38:00am

re: #224 Slumbering Behemoth

what about Eminem and 50 cent?

228 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:38:26am

re: #205 ralphieboy

Middle East monarchies? Which ones would that be?

Jordan, whose regime came to the throne because of the Brits backing him as Emir of Transjordan (Abdullah, his son Talal (who abdicated to his grandson King Hussein, and is currently ruled by Hussein's son Abdullah II)?

Must be Saudi Arabia, which was founded by Ibn Saud, and who realized the folly of a confrontation with the Brits and remains in the hands of the Saudi clan?

229 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:38:33am

re: #226 CuriousLurker

Islam is BAD... The only good Muslims are the ones who don't practice Islam.

They're all Pamela Geller.

230 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:39:37am

If they're bitching about Emimem and 50 Cent then they're just showing how out of touch they are. Ooh rap music. Shit man. My ten year old brother and sixty year old dad are known to enjoy Emimem from time to time.

231 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:39:58am

re: #220 The Ghost of a Flea

That too.

Are Masons officially in the no-no book from Cameron-style fundamentalists?

Can't be. A bunch of the Founders were Masons. There's even a Masonic Memorial to George Washington in Alexandria. (Another Egyptian obelisk thing - go figure.)

232 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:40:23am

Our goal is a Global Christian Caliphate!

233 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:41:01am

re: #221 Ooh, look, shiny...

Who are these men?

Debate: Is the “Arab Spring” Good or Bad for America? – Marriott Ballroom*
The Honorable Jim Gilmore, President and Chief Executive Officer, Free Congress Foundation
and Former Governor of Virginia, Former Member, Congressional Homeland Security
Commission (1999-2003)
The Honorable Zalmay Khalilzad, President, Gryphon Partners, Former U.S. Permanent
Representative to the UN, Former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, and Former U.S. Ambassador
to Afghanistan
The Honorable Elliott Abrams, Senior Fellow for Middle Eastern Studies, Council on Foreign
Relations
David French, Senior Counsel, American Center for Law & Justice
Moderator: Cliff May, President, Foundation for the Defense of Democracies

234 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:41:11am

You guys are suffering through that protofascist babblefest? My condolences.

235 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:42:01am

re: #234 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

You guys are suffering through that protofascist babblefest? My condolences.

not suffering here, laughing is more like it.

236 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:42:07am

It's blocked here. Thank the Ford.

237 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:42:41am

My feed just went kaput.

238 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:42:48am

re: #233 Gus

Debate: Is the “Arab Spring” Good or Bad for America? – Marriott Ballroom*
The Honorable Jim Gilmore, President and Chief Executive Officer, Free Congress Foundation
and Former Governor of Virginia, Former Member, Congressional Homeland Security
Commission (1999-2003)
The Honorable Zalmay Khalilzad, President, Gryphon Partners, Former U.S. Permanent
Representative to the UN, Former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, and Former U.S. Ambassador
to Afghanistan
The Honorable Elliott Abrams, Senior Fellow for Middle Eastern Studies, Council on Foreign
Relations
David French, Senior Counsel, American Center for Law & Justice
Moderator: Cliff May, President, Foundation for the Defense of Democracies

What on earth is Khalizad, a Muslim man doing with a bunch of kooks who want to make his religion illegal. And Jim Gilmore lol. This is the same guy who got his ass handed to him when he tried to run for Senate here. His whole campaign for governor 14 years ago was just based on his opposition to the car tax. It was even lamer than his run for president four years ago.

239 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:42:55am

re: #234 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

You guys are suffering through that protofascist babblefest? My condolences.

If these asshats win the presidency, can I come live with you in Russia?

240 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:42:57am

re: #234 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

You guys are suffering through that protofascist babblefest? My condolences.

I'm just heckling from the Peanut Gallery on the historical fantasy-land being relayed by the others. Cordon Sanitaire' to maintain my sanity and purity of essence.

241 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:43:28am

re: #235 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

not suffering here, laughing is more like it.

How many pres. candidates are there?
No laffing matter.

242 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:44:18am

re: #239 CuriousLurker

If these asshats win the presidency, can I come live with you in Russia?

They would still be preferrable to what we have, sorry.

243 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:44:25am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

What on earth is Khalizad, a Muslim man doing with a bunch of kooks who want to make his religion illegal. And Jim Gilmore lol. This is the same guy who got his ass handed to him when he tried to run for Senate here. His whole campaign for governor 14 years ago was just based on his opposition to the car tax. It was even lamer than his run for president four years ago.

Basically we're looking at a bunch of Bushites on this panel.

244 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:44:49am

re: #230 HappyWarrior

If they're bitching about Emimem and 50 Cent then they're just showing how out of touch they are. Ooh rap music. Shit man. My ten year old brother and sixty year old dad are known to enjoy Emimem from time to time.

They just referenced them, no criticism.

245 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:45:22am

re: #243 Gus

Basically we're looking at a bunch of Bushites on this panel.

Sounds that way. Still can't believe Jim Gilmore's trying to stay relevant. It's so pathetic after what happened to him the last two times he sought office.

246 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:45:24am

Well. Either their feed stopped or something is wrong on my end.

247 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:45:30am

re: #243 Gus

Basically we're looking at a bunch of Bushites on this panel.

That's not a panel. It's the circled wagons of what is moderates for this event.

248 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:45:45am

re: #242 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

It is kind of funny remembering that you're actually living under a dystopic government. We really are spoiled.

And we're fucking it up by being spoiled.

249 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:46:09am

re: #243 Gus

Basically we're looking at a bunch of Bushites on this panel.

Bu-shites.

250 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:47:54am

re: #242 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

They would still be preferrable to what we have, sorry.

For you maybe, you're a white guy. For me, not so much. //

251 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:48:36am

re: #222 Olsonist

Yikes, you're right, false alarm. I was looking at the wrong page.

252 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:49:12am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

What on earth is Khalizad, a Muslim man doing with a bunch of kooks who want to make his religion illegal.

Good for business maybe?

Presently, Khalilzad serves as the President of Khalilzad Associates, LLC an "international advisory firm that serves clients at the nexus of commerce and public policies, helping global businesses navigate the most promising and challenging international markets." [6] Khalilzad Associates and its parent company Gryphon Capital Partners counts among its clients international and US companies, which are primarily interested in doing business in Iraq and Afghanistan. According to Khalilzad, these include companies in the sectors of energy, construction, education, and infrastructure

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

253 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:50:08am

re: #248 Obdicut

Strictly speaking, for me Putin et al. are ideologically more preferrable to this bunch of theofascists. I could lay out here why this is so. The problem is not the ideology itself, rather the fact that these jerks can be democratically replaced, while Pu et al. cannot be.

254 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:50:14am

re: #252 CuriousLurker

Good for business maybe?

Ah the allmighty dollar. Seriously though. Just don't get these people at all.

255 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:51:14am

re: #253 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

Strictly speaking, for me Putin et al. are ideologically more preferrable to this bunch of theofascists. I could lay out here why this is so. The problem is not the ideology itself, rather the fact that these jerks can be democratically replaced, while Pu et al. cannot be.

This is true. Honestly, I think another thing Americans take for granted is the peaceful transition of power. As someone who lives near the capital, I am grateful for that.

256 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:51:25am

re: #250 CuriousLurker

For you maybe, you're a white guy. For me, not so much. //

Well, all the more why current Russia is not the best idea.

257 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:52:55am

Everything at this CPAC fest seems to be based on anger, negativity and fear. It's as though they view everything, every single little thing that doesn't fit their world view as a cancer. These people are true ideologues.

258 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:53:56am

re: #257 Gus

Everything at this CPAC fest seems to be based on anger, negativity and fear. It's as though they view everything, every single little thing that doesn't fit their world view as a cancer. These people are true ideologues.

Opposing ideologies are to be rooted out or at least shouted down, they are not to be compromised with to any extent.

259 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:54:14am

Gotta get back to work. Later, lizards.

260 darthstar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:55:45am

re: #215 Charles Johnson

By the way, it was three years ago today that I wrote this: Why I Parted Ways With the Right.

11/30/09...And two days later I joined. See what happens now?

261 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:55:52am

re: #257 Gus

Everything at this CPAC fest seems to be based on anger, negativity and fear. It's as though they view everything, every single little thing that doesn't fit their world view as a cancer. These people are true ideologues.

American Exceptionalism! /

262 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:56:09am

Signing off here, enough bloggage today. Let me know when and how CPAC has solved all of America's problems so I can adjust my lifestyle accordingly...

263 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:56:52am

re: #260 darthstar

I know - already spotted that. Had several pages open and looked at the date on the wrong one...

264 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:56:57am

re: #260 darthstar

Did you join upon seeing the manifesto?

265 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:57:57am

For those of you seeking sanity. Here's a reasonable view on the Arab Spring.

Roger Cohen on Egypt
The Op-Ed columnist Roger Cohen discusses the unrest in Egypt and argues that it does not dash the promise of the Arab Spring.

266 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:00:16pm

re: #163 Bulworth

What if the Founding Fathers didn't tell CPAC what they wanted to hear?

They would ignore it, just like they do that Jesus character.

267 Lidane  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:01:55pm

re: #257 Gus

It's as though they view everything, every single little thing that doesn't fit their world view as a cancer.

That's because they do.

Gay sex is icky (except for the fake lesbians in porn!) so gay marriage is a cancer. Every language other than English sucks, so we need to make English the official language. There are too many brown people, so let's build a border fence and/or deport anyone who speaks Spanish. White people are becoming a minority, so we have to ban birth control and abortion to increase breeding rates. Etc.

268 darthstar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:02:18pm

re: #263 Charles Johnson

I know - already spotted that. Had several pages open and looked at the date on the wrong one...

No worries.

re: #264 Al-Qatil min al-Akadhib

Did you join upon seeing the manifesto?

I'd been lurking for a couple of weeks after some of my friends on dKos said Charles was being less of a wingnut than people thought he was...decided to see for myself rather than make assumptions. Then there was open registration and now you're stuck with me.

269 Interesting Times  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:03:47pm
270 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:04:27pm

re: #169 ralphieboy

There were no large international corporations back then, the very concept of the multinational was alien to them.

And the notion of granting them legal personhood would have been abhorrent.

But there was, the East India Company. A privately owned (by very wealthy men) company that got special treatment from the government to help them keep a monopoly. Had their own army/navy, and pretty much did what the fuck they wanted.

But unlike today, when they got preferential treatment over us colonists the shit hit the fan.

271 Olsonist  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:05:15pm

re: #267 Lidane

... There are too many brown people, so let's build a border fence and/or deport anyone who speaks Spanish. ...

We already did the deportation thing once to brown American citizens.

The Mexican Repatriation refers to a mass migration that took place between 1929 and 1939, when as many as 500,000 people of Mexican descent were forced or pressured to leave the US. The event, carried out by American authorities, took place without due process. Some 35,000 were deported, amongst many hundreds of thousands of other immigrants who were deported during this period. The Immigration and Naturalization Service targeted Mexicans because of "the proximity of the Mexican border, the physical distinctiveness of mestizos, and easily identifiable barrios."

272 Gus  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:06:35pm

An oldie but goodie.

Reince Priebus, Chairman of the RNC

Remove the vowels and you get Rnc Prbs.

Put it together and you get: RNC PR BS

273 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:08:00pm

re: #270 RayFerd

But there was, the East India Company. A privately owned (by very wealthy men) company that got special treatment from the government to help them keep a monopoly. Had their own army/navy, and pretty much did what the fuck they wanted.

But unlike today, when they got preferential treatment over us colonists the shit hit the fan.

Privateers! They cornered the market on mermaid's tears. Their legacy is the Starbucks logo!
//

274 Lidane  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:08:40pm

re: #271 Olsonist

We already did the deportation thing once to brown American citizens.

Yeah. And now we have a bunch of "small government fiscal conservatives" who want the government to deport millions of people. Figure that out.

275 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:09:44pm

re: #271 Olsonist

We already did the deportation thing once to brown American citizens.

Twice.

276 Lidane  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:10:36pm

How soon before someone at CPAC says that JC Penney doesn't have the right to decide who represents their values because Ellen is gay?

JC Penney CEO: ‘Ellen Represents The Values Of Our Company’

277 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:10:50pm

re: #196 Targetpractice

They had some idea, with the East India Trading Company being one of the reasons why the Revolution began in the first place. So to hear that such companies, who used their power and influence to press governments into levying oppressive taxes on the locals, now are being worshiped by one half of the very government they were creating, would be shocking.

Damn, I just replied in almost the exact same way :-)

278 darthstar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:11:58pm

Who says the IRS doesn't have a heart?

IRS Letter
Leaving this in new window mode so it can be zoomed for easier reading.

279 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:15:01pm

Farkalanche!

[Link: www.fark.com...]

With bonus photoshop of me in front of a Nazi flag, from the stalker blog.

280 recusancy  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:15:39pm

ED Kain has a good post about current conservative culture:

Why conservatives can’t do pop culture very well

Fits in well with what you're seeing at CPAC.

282 Thorzdad  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:22:13pm

Man, these people scare the bejeesus out of me. Can you imagine how far off the ledge they're going to drive if (when?) Obama is re-elected? And if the R's actually lose seats in the House and Senate?

My god, CPAC2013 will make this thing look like a new-age love-fest.

283 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:22:56pm

re: #281 Lidane


PPP: Obama Statistically Tied With Romney, Santorum In NC

Obama got a 6.5% democratic bump in 2008 over 2004, so he is actually holding ground on where he was in the election when he won the state in a squeaker against McCain, where the Libertarian votes arguably cost Mccain the state it was that close (0.5%).

284 darthstar  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:25:23pm

Holy crap! Bristol Palin has been featured on that exclusive web-site, Craigslist.

Please join Bristol Palin and her ghostwriter Nancy French in a special book signing!

We're welcoming folks of all ages to join Bristol as she promotes her best selling memoir "Not Afraid Of Life - My Journey So Far".

The first 100 people to RSVP will receive a free autographed book by Bristol herself.

Apparently, living off of mom's grift isn't going to work...she's giving up realityTV and speaking out for abstinence as a single mom(Fuck it, girls! Dicks are great!) and is back to working as a receptionist in Alaska. That's good. I was hoping she'd find her own life.

285 Lidane  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:25:26pm

re: #282 Thorzdad

Can you imagine how far off the ledge they're going to drive if (when?) Obama is re-elected?

I'm expecting an uptick in "lone wolves" after Election Day, to be completely blunt.

286 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:26:14pm

"Synonyms For the N-Word You Can Still Get Away With" #CPACPanels

287 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:26:42pm

re: #282 Thorzdad

Man, these people scare the bejeesus out of me. Can you imagine how far off the ledge they're going to drive if (when?) Obama is re-elected? And if the R's actually lose seats in the House and Senate?

My god, CPAC2013 will make this thing look like a new-age love-fest.

ACORN!!elevnty

288 Charleston Chew  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:34:07pm

So conservatives now communicate exclusively via fake action-movie trailers?

289 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:36:31pm

re: #273 Look At My New Grandbaby!

Privateers! They cornered the market on mermaid's tears. Their legacy is the Starbucks logo!
//

I want to know who that Mark dude was who all these guys got their letters from. Appears you couldn't be in the group unless he'd written to them.
;)
//

290 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:42:50pm

Hi Everyone.
So i was at the gym last night and the area i usually am on the Elliptical was being mopped so i went to the other side of the gym and that is where they have Fox news on. It is basically the 700 Club. Very odd to watch. I didn't find it funny like i thought i would, i found it more than alarming.
I don't remember everything exactly but they had a big banner on the bottom that said, THE FIGHT FOR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM or something similar, with a grainy faded pic of Obama next to it.
The night seemed to be devoted to how Christians do not, or will soon not have religious freedom in this country. They seem to be confusing religious freedom with religious control.

291 Charleston Chew  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:45:08pm

re: #288 Charleston Chew

So conservatives now communicate exclusively via fake action-movie trailers?

I suspect this video may have been the start of the trend (from Jan, 2011). Are there early examples?

Youtube Video
292 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 1:05:02pm

...

293 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 1:08:56pm

re: #163 Bulworth

What if the Founding Fathers didn't tell CPAC what they wanted to hear?

They'd declare them traitors and write them out of the history books.

294 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 1:17:58pm

re: #279 Charles Johnson

Farkalanche!

[Link: www.fark.com...]

With bonus photoshop of me in front of a Nazi flag, from the stalker blog.

Guess Fark doesn't know Politico dubbed this a Progressive Blog.

295 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 1:22:23pm

re: #294 Decatur Deb

Guess Fark doesn't know Politico dubbed this a Progressive Blog.

Progressives are Nazis!!!11!

296 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 2:24:37pm

re: #106 Targetpractice

Take this country back...to the 18th century!

//

We weren't this afraid and closed-minded in the eighteenth century. That was back when 'Enlightenment' wasn't a cuss word.

297 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 2:25:47pm

re: #127 M. Dubious

Teachers won't read what's on the money because they're afraid of breaking the law!

"This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private"?

298 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 2:26:42pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

Cameron: "When something's wrong with a fruit, you don't fix the fruit..."

I'm not touching that one.

Cameron, nothing is wrong with the fruits. They are as God made them. So are you, although I have to remind myself of that from time to time.

299 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 2:28:59pm

re: #189 The Ghost of a Flea

Also freedom of religion.

This is true. The Mongols were quite relaxed about religion. They were pretty relaxed about everything except someone else wanting shit the Mongols wanted, or being rude to Mongols.

300 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 2:29:28pm

re: #298 SanFranciscoZionist

Cameron, nothing is wrong with the fruits. They are as God made them. So are you, although I have to remind myself of that from time to time.

Since most fruits were human-cultivated and bred for better tendencies, it's a really weird thing for creationists to reference. Reflects the depth of their ignorance.

301 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Feb 9, 2012 2:37:39pm

re: #300 Obdicut

Since most fruits were human-cultivated and bred for better tendencies, it's a really weird thing for creationists to reference. Reflects the depth of their ignorance.

The undomesticated versions of a lot of food plants are pretty amazing to compare to the current varietes: teosinte versus corn, wild chiles--about the size of dime--versus the several thousand cultivated varieties--et cetera. Relative to Mr. Cameron's own daft arguments about intelligent design, it's pretty astounding to contrast a wild banana species to any of the domesticated varieties.


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