Rick Santorum: The New Face of the GOP

A reactionary, anti-science religious fanatic is now the frontrunner
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The thing about Rick Santorum is that he’s genuine. He really believes that anti-science reactionary bullshit he spouts. He’s not just saying it to get elected, unlike Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich.

The reactionary Republican base senses this genuineness; they see Santorum as one of them. And this has now catapulted Santorum into the lead — 15 points ahead of Romney.

Riding a wave of momentum from his trio of victories on Tuesday Rick Santorum has opened up a wide lead in PPP’s newest national poll. He’s at 38% to 23% for Mitt Romney, 17% for Newt Gingrich, and 13% for Ron Paul.

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230 comments
1 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:11:13am

And he's one of the best at whining about being picked on, so I think that helps his chances for the GOP nomination, too.

2 erik_t  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:13:43am

I don't always choose a last great hope for my party, but when I do, I prefer that he (obviously he) be a relic of the Gingrich era who was beaten by double digits in his last election.

3 Olsonist  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:22:09am

Again, since this is a race where unfortunately not everyone can lose

it sucks to be Newt, (sad Callista),
it sucks to be Mitt, (kick Karl a few times and then write him another check),
if your name is Ron, well, you were never in it to win it anyways.

Rick, you're really important and America needs you.
No, we're not all laughing about your name.

4 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:24:40am

The election race would be more interesting if Santorum was the nominee.

5 Lidane  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:25:41am

The one silver lining in a Santorum nomination is that the wingnut base can't bitch about him not being conservative enough.

6 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:26:08am

re: #5 Lidane

The one silver lining in a Santorum nomination is that the wingnut base can't bitch about him not being conservative enough.

Oh, yes they can.

And yes, they do.

7 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:26:42am

The CPAC panel on "young conservatives" has only one person who's under 40.

8 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:27:22am

re: #6 freetoken

Oh, yes they can.

And yes, they do.

Too Catholic, too.

9 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:27:44am

re: #5 Lidane

Redstate was bitching about him being a tax-and-spender this morning.

10 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:27:52am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

These are really delusional people. They believe their own propaganda, which isn't very good to begin with.

11 Archangelus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:28:47am

It's as i've been saying for ages - even though most of them know he's probably their only realistic chance of winning, the GOP (which under Santorum should stand for Grotesque Oppressive Panderers) are desperate for ABR - Anyone But Romney...

12 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:28:51am

re: #5 Lidane

The one silver lining in a Santorum nomination is that the wingnut base can't bitch about him not being conservative enough.

I've been thinking the same thing, but it would seem I've underestimated the wingnuts once again.

13 erik_t  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:28:56am

re: #5 Lidane

The one silver lining in a Santorum nomination is that the wingnut base can't bitch about him not being conservative enough.

The GOP base can convince itself of anything. That Santorum is a RINO would not even be in the top ten of freeper newthink.

14 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:29:26am

BTW, almost the entire crowd there are creationists. No, I haven't interviewed every one there, but I'd bet anything I'm correct.

The ones there who aren't creationists know they have to market themselves in a way to still push all the right magickal-buttons that the creationists require.

15 aagcobb  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:29:46am

It will be fun watching the Romney attack machine destroy Frothy, because Romney gets dirty every time he has to sling mud. I've been watching the poll averages at RCP, and the President's approval ratings and lead over Romney have been opening up.

16 Archangelus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:30:00am

re: #5 Lidane

The one silver lining in a Santorum nomination is that the wingnut base can't bitch about him not being conservative enough.

Do not underestimate the power of the Derp Side...

/Vader

17 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:32:38am

A lot of voters prefer a candidate who sticks to a set of clearly defined principles, even if they do not agree with those principles. They see moral consistency as a virtue. And there are enough Republicans who buy into Santorum's core values to nominate him.

Dubya was also able to present himself as a man with a clear set of values, and it helped get him elected and re-elected.

And it is Romney's fatal flaw: he really projects the image of being guided by nothing other than political expediency.

18 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:32:47am

The unwillingness of the CPACers to have even one panel with a dissenting voice which would interact with the other speakers - not one interlocutor for any guest brought in - is the most obvious clue that these powwows are a shallow practice of self delusion.

These people don't even want quality propaganda.

19 nines09  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:33:17am

Rick proves there is no evolution. /

20 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:35:11am

"... bring it down to their level..."

Yeah, nothing quite like looking down on those young people you want to reach in order to convince them.

21 aagcobb  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:35:15am

I read a fun article on Slate that suggests the President deliberately punked the GOP on contraception to help himself with young women. Yesterday I heard Dr. King's granddaughter frothing at the mouth on Hannity that the President was "poisoning" black women with contraceptives. That should really help the GOP's appeal to women voters.

22 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:35:21am

Cnn.com headline: Female emotions worry Santorum.

In all fairness, though, don't most grown men spend a certain amount of time worrying about the emotions of one of female or another?

23 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:36:04am

Rep. Steve King At CPAC: Capitol Hill Janitors Are Like East German Secret Police

King compared the Capitol Hill janitors who replaced the lightbulbs in his office with lower-energy bulbs to the East German communist secret police, describing them as “Nancy [Pelosi]‘s Stasi troops,” and complained of a water-saving showerhead in his shower.

“I drilled it out and now my 12-minute shower is now a three-minute shower and I have nine minutes every day to beat up on the liberals,” he said to strong cheers and laughs from the highly partisan crowd.

24 aagcobb  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:36:14am

re: #22 Ooh, look, shiny...

Cnn.com headline: Female emotions worry Santorum.

In all fairness, though, don't most grown men spend a certain amount of time worrying about the emotions of one of female or another?

Lord knows that between my daughter, wife and mil I do.

25 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:37:53am

re: #22 Ooh, look, shiny...
True. But the ones who have learned "Yes dear..." is the first step on the road to harmony.

26 jhrhv  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:37:58am

Whatever happens I really hope none of the current republican contenders win the key to the WH from President Obama. There isn't one of them that I believe would do nearly as well of a job as he.

I can't even imagine what kind of damage a President Santorum would do to the U.S. and the rest of the world. When I think of Santorum as president my mind flashes to the scene in the movie The Dead Zone when Christopher Walken knew he had to shoot Martin Sheen to save the world from having a religious zealot president that gets a message from God to fire the nukes.

27 aagcobb  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:39:57am

re: #26 jhrhv

Whatever happens I really hope none of the current republican contenders win the key to the WH from President Obama. There isn't one of them that I believe would do nearly as well of a job as he.

I can't even imagine what kind of damage a President Santorum would do to the U.S. and the rest of the world. When I think of Santorum as president my mind flashes to the scene in the movie The Dead Zone when Christopher Walken knew he had to shoot Martin Sheen to save the world from having a religious zealot president that gets a message from God to fire the nukes.

Lets just hope the economic news continues to be good.

28 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:42:13am

re: #22 Ooh, look, shiny...

In all fairness, though, don't most grown men spend a certain amount of time worrying about the emotions of one of female or another?

No.

alternatively

29 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:42:49am

Colleges are "liberal" only because your views are amazingly atavistic.

30 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:42:55am

Delusional young conservative speaker thinks that all the new young voters registered since 2008 are theirs for the taking.

31 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:43:30am

re: #23 jaunte

How old is that dude? Nine?

32 sprezzatura  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:43:39am

re: #5 Lidane

The one silver lining in a Santorum nomination is that the wingnut base can't bitch about him not being conservative enough.

The other silver lining is that Obama will handily defeat Santorum in the general. Ricky is way too far to the right to get the center votes he'd need.

33 aagcobb  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:44:39am

re: #30 jaunte

Delusional young conservative speaker thinks that all the new young voters registered since 2008 are theirs for the taking.

Yep, the GOP's hysteria about contraception is just what young women are looking for politically./

34 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:47:04am

Maybe we should change the spelling of Santorum's name to sanitarium. /

35 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:48:14am
“I drilled it out and now my 12-minute shower is now a three-minute shower and I have nine minutes every day to beat up on the liberals,” he said to strong cheers and laughs from the highly partisan crowd.

Take that, librul shower head! Yay! I'm a waster!!

36 Lidane  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:49:28am

re: #23 jaunte

Rep. Steve King At CPAC: Capitol Hill Janitors Are Like East German Secret Police

This is why we should elect Newt. He'll take all those commie janitors and replace them with 8-year olds. They'll do what we tell them to do!

///

37 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:50:11am

re: #36 Lidane

They won't be able to reach our shower heads and lightbulbs!

38 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:50:43am

To CPAC current speaker (on youth): If your people were getting an "education" they would know that the question that the guy on the right just asked is a category error.

Comparing redistributing GPA to taxes is just stupid, and a category error.

39 Lidane  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:51:00am

re: #37 jaunte

They won't be able to reach our shower heads and lightbulbs!

That's what ladders are for. It builds character!

///

40 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:51:06am

The reports that Hamas may be softening seem premature.

Hamas 'will never recognise Israel': Gaza premier

"They want us to recognise the Israeli occupation and cease resistance but, as the representative of the Palestinan people and in the name of all the world's freedom seekers, I am announcing from Azadi Square in Tehran that we will never recognise Israel," Ismail Haniya said.

"The resistance will continue until all Palestinian land, including al-Quds (Jerusalem), has been liberated and all the refugees have returned," he said.

Report: Egypt seizes Gaza-bound anti-aircraft missiles

According to the Palestinian news agency, sappers began dismantling the missiles and several tons of TNT.

Sinai has seen a breakdown in security in recent weeks, with armed Bedouins kidnapping foreign tourists and attacking Egyptian security forces across the region.

On Friday three tourists from South Korea and their Egyptian guide were kidnapped on the way to St. Catherine's Monastery. Three Americans were kidnapped earlier in the day to negotiate the release of Bedouins imprisoned for weapons and drugs violations.

41 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:51:39am

These young conservatives are kind of sad, looking for more people their age that think like they do.

42 Stanghazi  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:51:41am

re: #22 Ooh, look, shiny...

Cnn.com headline: Female emotions worry Santorum.

In all fairness, though, don't most grown men spend a certain amount of time worrying about the emotions of one of female or another?

As we approach the great avoidance of the hallmark holiday VD.

43 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:53:01am

re: #23 jaunte

Rep. Steve King At CPAC: Capitol Hill Janitors Are Like East German Secret Police

Oh brother. The video is even worse.

Evil libruls are taking away your pooping liberties!!

44 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:54:28am

4 million years of evolution since coming down from the trees... and CPAC is the result.

45 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:55:01am

The beauty queen is speaking this afternoon. Is it just before the final straw poll by any chance?

46 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:56:36am

re: #44 ∳ ⌬ ≆ ♕

Some of us have more neanderthal genetic material than others.

47 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:57:59am

re: #46 Slumbering Behemoth

Some of us have more neanderthal genetic material than others.

STOP DISSING THE NEANDERTHALS

48 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:00:24pm

Coryn up there... Get ready for ...

VOTER ID!

49 palmerskiss  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:00:27pm

re: #45 ∳ ⌬ ≆ ♕

the final straw poll

the final straw pole that broke the elephants back?

50 aagcobb  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:01:49pm

re: #49 bella kat

the final straw pole that broke the elephants back?

I know luap nor didn't attend, did his cultists show up to make sure he wins the poll? Or will Santorum surge to a big win?

51 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:04:05pm

Cornyn unable to name one GOP fiscal policy change since Bush era

“What does distinguish the Republican Party of today from the Republican Party under President Bush’s rule with regards to spending, which is where it got out of control — under Republican rule,” asked host David Gregory on NBC’s Meet The Press.

52 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:05:43pm

re: #51 jaunte

For MBF's sake, Obama's policy basically differs only in allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire...

53 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:06:51pm

Unironic DOMA plug from the party of Newt Gingrich.

54 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:09:08pm

Am I correct in saying Rasmussen polls are now unreliable? Because they say that Santorum is now more competitive against Obama than Romney.

55 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:09:46pm

Wow, that's a young Tea Party!/

56 aagcobb  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:10:24pm

re: #54 ProGunLiberal

Am I correct in saying Rasmussen polls are now unreliable? Because they say that Santorum is now more competitive against Obama than Romney.

He probably is at the moment. He hasn't been slimed by Romney yet.

57 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:11:57pm

re: #54 ProGunLiberal

Am I correct in saying Rasmussen polls are now unreliable? Because they say that Santorum is now more competitive against Obama than Romney.

RS is the shiny new toy that the Anybody-but-Mitt conservatives are admiring right now. He will not hold up to scrutiny.

58 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:12:44pm

re: #57 Keynesian Kenyan

Among the general population. The Republicans are so nutty now, I can see Santorum pulling this out.

59 aagcobb  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:16:28pm

re: #58 ProGunLiberal

Among the general population. The Republicans are so nutty now, I can see Santorum pulling this out.

Intrade has Frothy's chances of being the nominee up to 19% now.

60 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:16:34pm

Oooohhhh... Dana is up there. That means this ought to be ...

61 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:17:17pm

re: #59 SantorumSurging

They also predicted the day of the caucus that Romney had a 97% chance of winning.

62 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:17:20pm

"Enemy territory." What a yutz.

63 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:18:06pm

In the meantime, the vast majority of registered Republicans aren't aware there is such a thing as CPAC.

Seriously. They're all at their children's or grandchildren's basketball games this morning.

64 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:18:09pm

re: #62 jaunte

It's the revelation of their real thinking - juvenile tribalism.

65 aagcobb  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:18:42pm

re: #61 ProGunLiberal

They also predicted the day of the caucus that Romney had a 97% chance of winning.

Intrade just reflects the best guess of interested people. The GOP race has been so volatile, no-one really knows what's going to happen next.

66 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:19:00pm

Titled "Tea Party Movement vs. Occupy".

Where's KT when you need him?

67 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:20:01pm

They've stopping putting spaces in takebackthiscountry, it gets used so often.

68 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:20:03pm

re: #66 freetoken
He is probably in his garden or with his frogs. Or both.

69 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:20:34pm

re: #63 Ooh, look, shiny...

In the meantime, the vast majority of registered Republicans aren't aware there is such a thing as CPAC.

Seriously. They're all at their children's or grandchildren's basketball games this morning.

They've chosen wisely.

70 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:20:49pm

re: #65 SantorumSurging

Santorum is leading in Pennsylvania.

I think if Santorum get it, Obama has a real chance of 400+ in the Electoral College.

He's already running within 10 points in Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, South Carolina, and Georgia.

Hell, he's running within 10 in Texas. This could be Johnson v. Goldwater all over again.

71 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:21:39pm

Now speaking at CPAC: Amy Kremer, who said she saw nothing wrong with circulating a photoshop of Obama as a witch doctor with a bone in his nose.

72 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:21:47pm

re: #70 ProGunLiberal

Santorum is leading in Pennsylvania.

I think if Santorum get it, Obama has a real chance of 400+ in the Electoral College.

He's already running within 10 points in Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, South Carolina, and Georgia.

Hell, he's running within 10 in Texas. This could be Johnson v. Goldwater all over again.

I was thinking more Reagan v. Mondale myself.

74 elizajane  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:23:46pm

re: #8 wrenchwench

Too Catholic, too.

A mere 50 years ago it was very possible for a president to be "too Catholic." Republicans were very, very worried that the Pope would set the rules for America, back then. Now they are positively begging for it. It's bizarre as heck.

Only six years ago, Santorum lost his Senate seat in Pennsylvania by 18%. Now Republicans there want him to run for President? Have they NO memory at all?

75 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:24:05pm

Right Wing Watch @RightWingWatch
After saying that #OccupyWallStreet "is not worth our time," Amy Kremer at #CPAC goes on to exclusively talk about #OWS

76 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:25:23pm

re: #70 ProGunLiberal
Santorum is leading in Pennsylvania. That is to be expected he was PA's US Senator. The Party is endorsing Mitt.

77 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:25:48pm

A "paid patriot!"

78 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:26:21pm

Current speaker at CPAC:

Image: ZZ01B66484.jpg

79 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:26:38pm

re: #72 Targetpractice

Obama will not be able to pick up the Mormon Three in the West (Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming), the Deep South, or West Appalachian states under any circumstances. Alaska would still be Red too.

The highest Obama could plausibly get is a 452-86. That's the polling in Texas indicating a 7 point lead being the maximum Republican margin with Romney is true, and Santorum gets in.

There's a very good chance this election is a catastrophe for the Republicans. Also, if this happened, this would cause down-ballot wipeouts.

80 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:26:51pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson
Ugh.

81 Altermite  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:27:04pm

re: #76 La Salle Alumna

Santorum is leading in Pennsylvania. That is to be expected he was PA's US Senator. The Party is endorsing Mitt.

he got curbstomped in PA last time, in large part thanks to pa republicans. He doesn't have a positive history here.

82 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:27:35pm

re: #74 elizajane

Have they NO memory at all?

Let's hope not.

83 aagcobb  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:29:35pm

re: #74 elizajane

A mere 50 years ago it was very possible for a president to be "too Catholic." Republicans were very, very worried that the Pope would set the rules for America, back then. Now they are positively begging for it. It's bizarre as heck.

Only six years ago, Santorum lost his Senate seat in Pennsylvania by 18%. Now Republicans there want him to run for President? Have they NO memory at all?

Keep in mind that the only reason Frothy has a chance is because the frontrunner is an extraordinarily weak candidate. If the economic recovery continues to gain strength, Romney has nothing to run on.

84 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:29:51pm

Too much whiiiiiining.

85 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:30:57pm

Also, this year could be the last for the 50 star flag. Puerto Rico may very well decide in a Referendum to join the Union.

: The first question will ask voters whether they prefer the status quo or a change in status, while the second questions asks whether voters would prefer independence, statehood or free association in the case of a status change.

This could a year that things really shift.

86 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:31:27pm

Wow, she's outdoing KT.

87 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:32:11pm

re: #85 ProGunLiberal

They've never voted positively for statehood in the past.

88 labman57  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:32:20pm

Most Americans can only tolerate a limited amount of inane and irrational commentary from our candidates for national office. With a self-proclaimed theocrat such as Santorum, we would be inundated with a daily barrage of sanctimonious and socially regressive religious doctrine-driven societal intolerance, comic book-level analyses of complex issues, routine reminders of his unabashed scientific illiteracy, and delusional tripe based on unbridled ignorance of the topics being discussed.

89 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:32:26pm

re: #86 freetoken

Wow, she's outdoing KT.

Dana Loesch is a truly hateful person -- spiteful, vindictive and mean. A conservative star.

90 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:32:30pm

Obama is a Big Media conspiracy!

91 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:33:08pm

Dana Loesch says the Occupy movement is a conspiracy by George Soros.

92 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:33:14pm

re: #85 ProGunLiberal
Hmm. A 51 state flag. That would be an interesting field/canton.

93 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:34:07pm

"There was never a racist act at any one of these Tea Party..."

Um...

94 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:34:22pm

They seem to be running against OWS.

95 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:35:04pm

re: #94 jaunte

They seem to be running against OWS.

Enemy du jour.

96 Dante41  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:35:13pm

Say, anyone catch Santorum accusing the president of treason on Thursday?

Link

97 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:36:25pm

re: #87 freetoken

True. However, the Statehood Party has a staggering majority in the House and Senate of the Island, and all island-wide offices are held by the PNP, the Statehood Party.

Also, talking to a few Puerto Ricans, they said it could be very, very close. Their is a much better chance now than in the past.

Of course, it would have English AND Spanish as official languages.

98 engineer cat  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:36:49pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

Now speaking at CPAC: Amy Kremer, who said she saw nothing wrong with circulating a photoshop of Obama as a witch doctor with a bone in his nose.

there were larouchites in front of the local supermarket with a card table with big posters of obama with a hitler mustache

i'm afraid i lost my temper and tore off one of those posters and tore it up

99 aagcobb  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:37:11pm

re: #85 ProGunLiberal

Also, this year could be the last for the 50 star flag. Puerto Rico may very well decide in a Referendum to join the Union.

This could a year that things really shift.

I have to think the GOP would be overwhelmingly opposed to allowing a hispanic state into the union.

100 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:37:22pm

re: #87 freetoken

They've never voted positively for statehood in the past.

I don't understand all the issues, but if they want to join, we'll leave the light on. Suits me.

101 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:37:27pm

re: #97 ProGunLiberal

Of course, it would have English AND Spanish as official languages.

Oh, that would stir up CPAC for sure.

102 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:38:51pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

Now speaking at CPAC: Amy Kremer, who said she saw nothing wrong with circulating a photoshop of Obama as a witch doctor with a bone in his nose.

And that is the point: he is not being dissembling about it - he truly does not see anything wrong in it at all.

103 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:38:55pm

re: #99 SantorumSurging

I can see some conservative superpacs funding the Puerto Rican separatist movement.

104 aagcobb  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:39:18pm

re: #101 freetoken

Oh, that would stir up CPAC for sure.

Exactly. Can someone get Newt to say that P.R. should be required to immerse its students in English so they don't just speak a ghetto language?

105 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:39:38pm

re: #98 engineer cat

there were larouchites in front of the local supermarket with a card table with big posters of obama with a hitler mustache

i'm afraid i lost my temper and tore off one of those posters and tore it up

The LaRouchies are probably used to that by now.

God, they are smug and sure of themselves for people who are so pathetically wrong on every front. Like Ron Paul people, and Gilad Atzmon.

106 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:40:08pm

They're still mad we didn't let the auto companies fail.

107 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:40:34pm

Idiot admits he bought a house at the top of the bubble... and then thinks that somehow legitimizes his Tea Partyisms.

108 aagcobb  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:41:01pm

re: #106 jaunte

They're still mad we didn't let the auto companies fail.

That should really help them win Michigan and Ohio. "You should all be unemployed!"

109 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:41:15pm

re: #106 jaunte

They're still mad we didn't let the auto companies fail.

and still mad about that veiled Clint Eastwood pro-Obama Superbowl ad...

110 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:41:53pm

Damn those people with their hybrid cars and iPhones.

111 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:43:59pm

CPAC panelist: "There is no African American, there's only an American." Big round of applause.

112 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:44:34pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Does he even admit that there are avoid White Nationalists at the conference?

113 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:44:57pm

In other news, the 5 top managers at The Sun (another London NewsCorp tab), have all been arrested, along with a police officer, a military officer, and a Ministry of Defense employee.

Hahahahaha!!

114 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:45:00pm

re: #83 SantorumSurging

Keep in mind that the only reason Frothy has a chance is because the frontrunner is an extraordinarily weak candidate. If the economic recovery continues to gain strength, Romney has nothing to run on.

I believe he said as much in an interview recently, that he's really got nothing to run on if the economic uptick continues. His campaign's gotta wake up every morning, checking the news, hoping that the EU collapses or China "calls in" our debt so that he'll have a new disaster to ride back to the top.

115 dragonfire1981  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:45:04pm

Despite the apparent demographic at CPAC, I can confirm there are many young conservatives out there. I have a lot of friends on Facebook who are my age (late 20s) who are constantly posting far right stuff: Attacks on planned parenthood, the Yes on 26 movement, attacks on Obama, even the Onion "abortionplex" story they thought was real.

Now I am sure being in the South has something to do with this but make no mistake: there's a whole group of (mostly Christian it seems) young people who are buying all this stuff from Beck, Limbaugh and the GOP.

116 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:45:14pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Nice to have a house fantasist on the panel.

117 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:45:19pm

re: #92 La Salle Alumna

The United States Army Institute of Heraldry has a plan all laid out.

Here is that one.

However there are two alternatives being talked about.

One that harkens back to the Betsy Ross Flag The PNP has made noises about wanting this design.

And One that harkens back to the Original 13-Star Flag

118 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:45:45pm

The overwhelmingly white audience loves it when the token black conservatives bash their own race.

119 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:46:46pm

Why is Herman Cain absent from the CPAC?

120 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:47:21pm

re: #119 Keynesian Kenyan

Why is Herman Cain absent from the CPAC?

They probably told him NEIN NEIN NEIN...

/

121 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:47:22pm

re: #119 Keynesian Kenyan

Why is Herman Cain absent from the CPAC?

There are 9
9
9
reasons no doubt.

122 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:47:34pm

re: #119 Keynesian Kenyan

Why is Herman Cain absent from the CPAC?

Too Librul. He actually supports an income tax.

123 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:47:36pm

re: #117 ProGunLiberal
Those are some very good ideas.

124 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:48:09pm

Look at those fangs.

125 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:48:10pm

re: #119 Keynesian Kenyan

Oh, sorry. We ordered a large pizza. They said it's on the way...

126 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:51:20pm

re: #123 La Salle Alumna

I expect the first one to be the one to be used. Unless Congress decides it wants to do something special.

127 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:51:36pm

Amy Kremer quoting Hillel
*puke*

128 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:51:36pm

re: #119 Keynesian Kenyan

Why is Herman Cain absent from the CPAC?

Coulda swore I saw him up at the podium on the live feed yesterday.

129 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:51:48pm

re: #126 ProGunLiberal
Me too.

130 aagcobb  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:52:07pm

re: #115 dragonfire1981

Despite the apparent demographic at CPAC, I can confirm there are many young conservatives out there. I have a lot of friends on Facebook who are my age (late 20s) who are constantly posting far right stuff: Attacks on planned parenthood, the Yes on 26 movement, attacks on Obama, even the Onion "abortionplex" story they thought was real.

Now I am sure being in the South has something to do with this but make no mistake: there's a whole group of (mostly Christian it seems) young people who are buying all this stuff from Beck, Limbaugh and the GOP.

The Fundies have created an entire alternative culture and educational system to ensure their kiddies grow up brainwashed. Still a minority though.

131 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:52:09pm

re: #125 Daniel Ballard

Oh, sorry. We ordered a large pizza. They said it's on the way...

the extra-large 27" pizza, or as they call it now at Godfathers, the "nine+nine+nine".

132 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:52:49pm

From the raising of the voices in shouting, I take it these people haven't had their hit of Anger-induced adrenaline for the hour yet.

133 dragonfire1981  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:53:08pm

re: #121 freetoken

There are 9
9
9
reasons no doubt.

And each of them has breasts.

134 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:57:16pm

re: #133 dragonfire1981

And each of them has breasts.

Did somebody say "breasts"?!?

135 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 12:59:42pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

The overwhelmingly white audience loves it when the token black conservatives bash their own race.

It's Stockholm Syndrome, in a very sad and twisted way.

136 engineer cat  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:00:04pm

re: #127 jaunte

Amy Kremer quoting Hillel
*puke*

i'm amazed to find many conservative commentators dissing the whole concept of co-operation and working together

it seems that our christian heritage informs us that the lord means us to live our lives as a war of all against all

137 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:00:45pm

Norquist: "The left is not made up of friends and allies, it is made up of competing parasites."

138 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:02:34pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Norquist: "The left is not made up of friends and allies, it is made up of competing parasites."

Some powerful projection going on there.

139 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:03:27pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson
That tent is getting very small.

140 allegro  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:03:43pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Norquist: "The left is not made up of friends and allies, it is made up of competing parasites."

But Obama is divisive. Mmmhmm

141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:03:44pm
142 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:04:14pm

re: #86 freetoken

Wow, she's outdoing KT.

I have no idea what they wingnuts are saying but I was right about OWS. Liberals should shun the violent radical protests, they are doing more harm than good.

143 erik_t  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:04:39pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Norquist: "The left is not made up of friends and allies, it is made up of competing parasites."

...from the guy who wants to pay zero taxes.

144 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:05:32pm

re: #142 Killgore Trout

I was right about OWS.

No.

145 engineer cat  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:05:55pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Norquist: "The left is not made up of friends and allies, it is made up of competing parasites."

when will he get around to saying "our enemies are little worms"?

hate fest is hateful

146 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:06:15pm

The crisis in Syria is spilling over into Lebanon:

Clashes between pro- and anti-Syria gunmen in a northern Lebanese city left two people dead and 12 wounded Saturday in the latest skirmish between Lebanese factions over the crisis in neighboring Syria, security officials said.

147 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:07:41pm

re: #146 ProGunLiberal
This is not good. The Middle East has always been a hot spot and now at days it is more than ever. :(

148 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:08:17pm

Grover must be talking about his own prom date.

149 allegro  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:08:54pm

re: #142 Killgore Trout

I have no idea what they wingnuts are saying but I was right about OWS.

Clearly not. The 99% message came through loud and clear. It has changed the dialogue entirely and that message will be played through the election and beyond. It was quite successful in that regard.

150 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:09:55pm

re: #147 La Salle Alumna

At this point, we need to start talking about an occupation of the Northern Levant region. I think both nations will go down. And to stop ethnic cleansing, a major occupation will have to take place.

Realistically, the only nations that have the resources for it are the NATO nations. I guess Jordan and the North African Arab states can be pulled in too.

151 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:10:32pm

When the wolf finally eats the boy, does that mean the boy was right about there being a wolf all along?

152 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:11:15pm

"Put the trial lawyers in plastic bags and drop them in the river..."

Oh, yeah, how civil they are.

153 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:11:19pm

re: #142 Killgore Trout

I have no idea what they wingnuts are saying but I was right about OWS..

Except for all the things you were wrong about.

154 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:12:14pm

Now he's bragging about politically re-districting in favor of the GOP.

155 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:12:14pm

re: #150 ProGunLiberal

At this point, we need to start talking about an occupation of the Northern Levant region. I think both nations will go down. And to stop ethnic cleansing, a major occupation will have to take place.

Realistically, the only nations that have the resources for it are the NATO nations. I guess Jordan and the North African Arab states can be pulled in too.

I don't think any Americans are up for an occupation of anywhere other than home right now. Maybe if we weren't coming off of two long wars right now.

156 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:12:50pm

re: #150 ProGunLiberal

At this point, we need to start talking about an occupation of the Northern Levant region

Okay, let's talk about that:

Terrible fucking idea.

157 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:14:01pm

re: #155 Ooh, look, shiny...

If we bring up plausible ethnic cleansing and mutual mass murder between groups, we might be able to change that. Also, if we have the support of more nations than we did in Iraq.

It would have to be NATO+Jordan+North Africa.

158 Gus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:14:30pm

Mongo lost connection. Mongo jump in Mongomobile go food shopping. Mongo like food.

159 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:15:19pm

re: #157 ProGunLiberal

North Africa who? Libya? Egypt? Sudan? Morocco?

160 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:15:25pm

re: #158 Gus

Me just pawn in game of Soros.

161 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:15:25pm

re: #158 Gus
LOL

162 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:15:35pm

re: #158 Gus

Mongo lost connection. Mongo jump in Mongomobile go food shopping. Mongo like food.

Mongo share!

//

163 Gus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:16:16pm

re: #162 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

Mongo share!

//

Mongo no share. Mongo just make sandwich disappear.

164 Gus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:16:47pm

So is today the last day for CPECKER?

165 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:16:49pm

re: #163 Gus

Mongo no share. Mongo just make sandwich disappear.

Mongo capitalist pig!!

/

166 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:16:53pm

re: #163 Gus

As long as it wasn't beans.

167 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:16:56pm

re: #163 Gus

Mongo no share. Mongo just make sandwich disappear.

then Mongo make sandwich reappear out of nose...

168 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:17:12pm

Norquist: "Winning!"

169 Gus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:18:04pm

If C-CRAP don't end soon... I'll be "in hospital" before Monday morning!

//

170 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:18:41pm

Norquist has a new low in standards for Presidents: working digits.

171 engineer cat  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:19:24pm

i've been worried about santorum's surge because i see him as a smarter and less compromised candidate than the newt and the mitt. but it seems i've been looking at rick with the wrong set of eyes

freepers:

Move over, Dukakis! Make way for Mondale!
----
This would be funny - Newt and Mitt so taken with their hatred for each other that they thought they could ignore Santorum - except that once vetted, Santorum will prove to be a shamefully weak candidate.

We are in trouble.
----
You are right, we are in trouble. For the life of me, I just can't get excited about Santorum, and people I've talked to feel the same way. He is a good conservative, but so is my Dad - and I can't see him as the president either.

This is not going to end well.
---
I agree with weak, only because he’s an inexperienced fighter of evil. Romney will compromise with this evil, Santorum will be defeated by this evil and the only one left is Newt who fought this evil, knows where it comes from amd knows how to send it back where it came from.
---
Santorum’s defeat of Romney’s severe inevitability is just great...for now. But Santorum doesn’t have the style to carry it through to victory in November. We need a real powerhouse to win. We need a brokered convention to nominate a real winner (and it’s not Jeb Bush.)
---
My main goal is to stop Romney, and Santorum appears to be the only one that can do that.
---
Santorum is the person at the bottom of everyone’s list of acceptable candidates.

He doesn’t stink but doesn’t smell very good either. He’s a career politician who lost his seat in a landslide defeat to one of the dumbest senators in congress today.

And unlike Newt, he’s an establishment candidate who endorsed Specter (who voted for Obamacare), and Romney in the primary of ‘08. He’s on record saying he’s against the tea party.

Santorum vs. Obama will be painful to watch. I hope there’s a better solution.

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

i forgots to "think" like a wingnut! Smart Are Bad! Be More Mean! I Hate Teh Tricksy "Nice" And "Reasonable" I Do I Do!

172 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:19:43pm

FRANCE!
GREECE!
CHICAGO!!!

173 Gus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:19:47pm

re: #170 jaunte

Norquist has a new low in standards for Presidents: working digits.

What's he doing there? I thought this wasn't a Republican event.

//

174 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:19:50pm

re: #159 Obdicut

Morocco, Libya, Tunisia.

We would need boots on the ground.

Morocco's Army, Gendarmerie, and Royal Guard are 211k strong. Tunisia has a combined 39k between National Guard and the Army. Libya has Thousands and Thousands of Paramilitary Freedom Fighters, many of whom the Libyan Government wants trained into a proper military. A NATO occupation force in Syria could train them while both are doing occupation.

Honestly, I just want to prevent a massive humanitarian tragedy at any cost.

175 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:20:36pm

And Libyans are now trickling into Syria.

DamascusTweets FREEDOM
#Libya opens up the door for those who want to fight & help #Syria'ns. More then 600 voulntered & they're getting in syria through turkey.

176 Gus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:20:50pm

CPAC is a non-partisan gather of conservative from across the country and the world!

[Hahahahahaha!]

//

177 recusancy  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:21:41pm

re: #151 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

When the wolf finally eats the boy, does that mean the boy was right about there being a wolf all along?

Very well put

178 Kronocide  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:21:43pm

The video of daddy shooting his daughter's laptop is garnering more idiotic comments about parenting and 'society going downhill because we won't let parent's parent' and other derpy errata.

Insanity.

179 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:22:50pm

MoonieTimes president talking about the founding of the MoonieTimes... without mentioning the head Moonie Himself.

180 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:23:39pm

re: #175 ProGunLiberal

And Libyans are now trickling into Syria.

Interesting. They are going to need a hell of a lot more than 600. The Libyans just barely got the job done in Libya, I'm not sure how much they can help the Syrians.

181 Gus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:23:39pm

Chicago has long been the butt of conservative cliches. But you know what? When cities competed to attract the Boeing HQ Chicago won. Chicago is also the home of a huge financial center including many other corporate headquarters. So in reality a lot of "smart money" is centered in Chicago. Once again we're seeing the right wing use the Chicago cliches as red-meat for their ignorant constituencies.

182 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:23:45pm

The Media is Corporations!

183 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:23:54pm

re: #174 ProGunLiberal

Morocco, Libya, Tunisia.

What are you smoking that you think Libya is in any position to commit troops in another country right now? Or Tunisia?

Honestly, I just want to prevent a massive humanitarian tragedy at any cost.

What about the cost being that you'd cause several massive humanitarian tragedies?

184 erik_t  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:23:59pm

re: #174 ProGunLiberal

Honestly, I just want to prevent a massive humanitarian tragedy at any cost.

'Any' is potentially a very, very big cost. Very.

185 Gus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:24:27pm

CPAC: the stupid it burns.

186 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:24:29pm
I agree with weak, only because he’s an inexperienced fighter of evil. Romney will compromise with this evil, Santorum will be defeated by this evil and the only one left is Newt who fought this evil, knows where it comes from amd knows how to send it back where it came from.

HA! I bet this dude is fun at a party.

187 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:24:32pm

re: #182 jaunte

The Media is Corporations!

They're people! (like Soylent Green)

188 Gus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:25:01pm

Somewhere in all of this is a Twain limerick.

189 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:25:03pm

This is one long advert for the MoonieTimes.

And the crowd probably wouldn't notice.

190 Gus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:25:18pm

If you took all the assholes in the world and put them in one room...

191 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:25:19pm

re: #181 Gus

Chicago was the easiest city to live in I found, for a working dude. Housing is pretty cheap, other costs are pretty low, crap jobs are relatively easy to find and decent jobs actually exist.

192 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:25:45pm

Drumroll please....

193 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:25:50pm

I wonder if the Washington Times editor arrested last night for assaulting a police officer is out yet.

194 Gus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:26:20pm

re: #193 jaunte

I wonder if the Washington Times editor arrested last night for assaulting a police officer is out yet.

Was he pepper sprayed?

195 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:26:24pm

re: #171 engineer cat

"[Santorum] is a good conservative, but so is my Dad - and I can't see him as the president either.

This is not going to end well."

Sums it up well. Must be the sweater jacket that creates that impression...

196 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:26:51pm

re: #194 Gus

She; I don't think so.

197 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:27:03pm

re: #177 recusancy

Very well put

Thanks.

I acknowledge that OWS turned into a POS.
But to say it was extremist from the start is to rewrite history, IMO.

198 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:27:33pm

re: #184 erik_t

I know. But let's put it another way.

If Syria and Lebanon implode, it would make both Israel and Jordan much less secure. Hell, the entire region of the Levant (and Turkey) would become less secure.

re: #183 Obdicut

In the case of Libya, you could use it to get some of the more restive militias out of the nation, and to be trained by us. Tunisia is not having any huge issues right now.

199 Gus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:27:41pm

Check. A check, 1, 2, 3...

200 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:27:50pm

Crowd just wants to hate on Obama.

201 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:27:55pm

Teleprompter joke.

202 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:28:13pm

re: #199 Mongo Think CPAC Dumb

Check. A check, 1, 2, 3...

It's in the mail!

203 Gus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:28:22pm

re: #200 freetoken

Crowd just wants to hate on Obama.

That thing has been a non-stop hate fest. Never seen anything like it.

204 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:28:26pm

This is quite incredible. If this bumbling lunatic actually wins the nomination, the result will be electoral Armageddon for the GOP, the most one-sided election in US history.

205 freetoken  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:29:00pm

re: #204 Shiplord Kirel

This is quite incredible. If this bumbling lunatic actually wins the nomination, the result will be electoral Armageddon for the GOP, the most one-sided election in US history.

We can only hope.

Well, we can probably do more...

206 Gus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:30:01pm

re: #204 Shiplord Kirel

This is quite incredible. If this bumbling lunatic actually wins the nomination, the result will be electoral Armageddon for the GOP, the most one-sided election in US history.

That would be awesome.

207 jaunte  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:30:39pm

Seriously? They're doing a presentation on a Straw Poll?

208 Gus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:30:42pm

Uh oh. My watcher is reading over my comments. Mongo not like. Mongo ding down.

209 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:31:26pm

re: #204 Shiplord Kirel

No, because roughly 80-90 electoral votes would still go to the Republicans. It's more likely we would get a Eisenhower-Stevenson result. About 452-86.

210 Gus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:31:30pm

ThomasLite. 99 percent dinger. 1 percent commentator. Hey Thomas!

211 Kronocide  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:31:47pm

re: #190 Mongo Think CPAC Dumb

If you took all the assholes in the world and put them in one room... big tent... it would be a big state in the middle of the US currently in a drought

212 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:33:00pm

re: #189 freetoken

This is one long advert for the MoonieTimes.

And the crowd probably wouldn't notice.

They're rubes. Fluff their self-regard and give them an "other" to look down on and they'll buy in every time.

213 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:33:04pm

re: #198 ProGunLiberal

In the case of Libya, you could use it to get some of the more restive militias out of the nation, and to be trained by us. Tunisia is not having any huge issues right now.

This seems like fantasy on your part and bears no relationship to what is actually achievable.

The chance of getting the restive Islamic militias out of LIbya to be trained by the West is negligible. Why do you think they'd let themselves be trained by us? And why do you think the US should once again start training highly-motivated Islamic guerrilla fighters? That has a rather mixed history.

214 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:34:44pm

re: #213 Obdicut

Putting it that way, I see your point.

However. Morocco and Tunisia should be able to help out.

215 Kronocide  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:35:24pm

re: #200 freetoken

Crowd just wants to hate on Obama.

This is pretty much a Two Days Hate with sporadic Attempted Humor.

216 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:35:42pm

re: #214 ProGunLiberal

Why would they be accepted by anyone in the area as peacekeepers? Why wouldn't they just be violently resisted?

What is the plan, exactly? We go in there and shoot all the bad people?

217 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:36:56pm

re: #216 Obdicut

Plan is the same as Bosnia and Kosovo. Prevent every side from killing each other.

Just on a much, much larger scale.

218 erik_t  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:37:53pm

re: #217 ProGunLiberal

Plan is the same as Bosnia and Kosovo. Prevent every side from killing each other.

Just on a much, much larger scale.

Mix the most troublesome and problematic parts of Bosnia and Iraq. This sounds like a brilliant plan.

219 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:38:48pm

re: #217 ProGunLiberal

So, war, basically, is your plan.

220 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:42:29pm

re: #219 Obdicut

My big concern he is an avoidance of atrocities.

However, I'm hoping that Assad just collapses, and that after that, something can be pushed through the UN.

If an intervention has to happen, I prefer it being primarily Turkish.

221 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:44:26pm

re: #220 ProGunLiberal

My big concern he is an avoidance of atrocities.

That seems to blind you to all other concerns, in a very strange way.

222 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:51:45pm

re: #221 Obdicut

There must be something we can do.

223 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:54:02pm

re: #197 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

Thanks.

I acknowledge that OWS turned into a POS.
But to say it was radical from the start is to rewrite history, IMO.

Seconded.

Also, for someone to say that THE key message of OWS (that the 1%'ers have screwed and continue to screw over everyone else) is somehow rendered meaningless or invalid because of the bad behavior of a relative few is dishonest and disingenuous.

224 fizzlogic  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:54:26pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

That's rich coming from a parasite of OPM.

I still don't know why he never went to prison funneling money for Abramoff.

225 erik_t  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:56:49pm

re: #222 ProGunLiberal

There must be something we can do.

No there doesn't. The world doesn't work like that, where if you wish hard enough for a solution to a problem then a solution will appear.

226 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 1:59:05pm

re: #222 ProGunLiberal

There must be something we can do.

Sometimes there isn't. There usually isn't. All over the world right now, murderers are murdering, rapists are raping, tyrants are executing citizens, assholes are beating their wives, etc. We can make incremental progress against this, but anytime you find yourself thinking there can be one big sweeping solution to any problem, you're usually wrong.

I"m sorry to be a downer, and it's great to want the big solution, but not to believe it exists simply because you want it to while ignoring the costs of that 'solution.'

227 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 2:18:55pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

Dana Loesch says the Occupy movement is a conspiracy by George Soros.

The Occupy Movement has already been discredited by the more ardent right-wing minded Zionists of which I am only marginally affiliated with because of mutual friends. The mere presence of a few anti-Israel signs is enough for some people to dismiss OWS entirely. The name 'Soros' is casually dropped in online discussion.

228 Lidane  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 2:20:14pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

Dana Loesch says the Occupy movement is a conspiracy by George Soros.

According to the Freepers, so is Mitt Romney.

229 labman57  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 7:36:16pm

Most Americans can only tolerate a limited amount of inane and irrational commentary from our candidates for national office. With a holier-than-thou theocrat such as Santorum, we would be inundated with a daily barrage of sanctimonious and socially regressive religious doctrine-driven societal intolerance, comic book-level analyses of complex issues, routine reminders of his unabashed scientific illiteracy, and delusional tripe based on unbridled ignorance of the topics being discussed.

230 hellosnackbar  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:48:22am

re#labman 57,
I do hope you're right labman.
The very thought of some creationist believing scientific illiterate being appointed to the world's most important job is nauseatingly awful.
Although I'm not an Obama fan; he's definitely preferable to the low calibre
competitors from the GOP.
What confounds me is why within the whole of the USA a more suitable candidate seemingly cannot be found?
Hopefully the GOP will revive and free itself from the ultra right head cases
who seem to reside there today!


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