Jump to bottom

736 comments
1 Kragar  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:36:24pm

Foo Fighters better win.

2 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:36:38pm

Tonight will be a bummer of a show, I imagine.

3 darthstar  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:37:58pm

re: #1 Kragar

Foo Fighters better win.

Foo Fighters suck...but not as much as the Goo-Goo Dolls.

I'm actually still sad about Whitney...won't watch the Grammies.

4 Kragar  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:39:33pm

re: #3 darthstar

Foo Fighters suck...but not as much as the Goo-Goo Dolls.

I'm actually still sad about Whitney...won't watch the Grammies.

I have no plans too actually watch.

And I'll be forced to destroy you over your FF comment.

5 lawhawk  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:40:08pm

The Mrs. has this on in the background. I'm surfin' the net and checking out info on my new camera. Caught the opening, and LL did a good job of paying tribute and moving things along. Tastefully done.

It's hard not to note Whitney's death - she was one of the biggest stars in music for 20 years, and I like the way that he wanted the crowd to celebrate her life and her music as the lasting tribute.

6 lawhawk  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:40:59pm

re: #4 Kragar

Sucks for you; they've already won 4.

7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:44:24pm

By the way, I heart Adele.

A pop star that's not a size 1. RAWR.

If I were single, and if she were desperate...

8 Kragar  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:45:46pm

re: #6 lawhawk

Sucks for you; they've already won 4.

Why would it suck for me? I'm glad they won 4, hoping they win album of the year too.

9 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:46:13pm

:Crosses Fingers:

Come on Taylor Swift, get at least one.

10 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:47:23pm

re: #9 ProGunLiberal

:Crosses Fingers:

Come on Taylor Swift, get at least one.

Who's he?

11 lawhawk  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:47:36pm

re: #8 Kragar

Dang.... should have meant that for Darth... and speaking of the FF

12 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:48:41pm

Never realized how much their lead singer looks like Kevin Smith...

13 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:51:25pm

One Percenters serving the interest of MegaCorporations! Ripping off the 99% with comic book movies, sequels and remakes! Who's got the pepper spray?

14 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:51:39pm

I like Grohl.

15 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:51:46pm

I like the Foo Fighters. In fact, FF > Nirvana.

Also, live music on TV? Awesome.

16 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:52:31pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

One Percenters serving the interest of MegaCorporations! Ripping off the 99% with comic book movies, sequels and remakes! Who's got the pepper spray?

oops, I thought it was the Oscars. Oh, well. Same crap in a different medium.
/I still want the pepper spray

17 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:54:30pm

It's cute watching Target try to sell cds to us. Very quaint.

18 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:57:06pm

Hmm. Coldplay and Rihanna? Not sure about this.

19 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:59:51pm

re: #18 Lidane

Hmm. Coldplay and Rihanna? Not sure about this.

He made me think they were going to be playing together. Thankfully they are not. It would be like putting mustard on ice cream, I think...

20 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:00:49pm

Hah. My DVR just cut away from the Grammys to The Walking Dead.

21 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:00:58pm

Look! It's Mr.Paltrow!

22 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:01:09pm

re: #18 Lidane

Hmm. Coldplay and Rihanna? Not sure about this.

She is in one of the songs on Coldplay's recent album

23 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:01:42pm

Oh, okay. That's not so bad.

24 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:02:44pm

New episode of The Walking Dead is on too...

25 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:05:23pm

re: #20 Lidane

Hah. My DVR just cut away from the Grammys to The Walking Dead.

Damn staight... been waiting for this for months.

26 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:06:24pm

re: #2 Long Nics are Looonnng

Tonight will be a bummer of a show, I imagine.

Cathartic, and with a tribute clip pulled together at the last screaming minute.

27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:06:25pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

New episode of The Walking Dead is on too...

The acting is top flight on this show.

28 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:06:56pm

re: #7 Long Nics are Looonnng

By the way, I heart Adele.

A pop star that's not a size 1. RAWR.

If I were single, and if she were desperate...

She is really pretty.

29 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:07:43pm

Ah. Willie Nelson doing Coldplay. Love this one.

30 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:07:47pm

Taylor Swift has gotten 2.

I am very pleased. Now, she needs to get album of the year in the Country group.

31 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:08:44pm

Hahaha:

32 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:08:49pm

Hopefully within the next 25 years we'll be able to see Cold Play at the Super Bowl.

33 lawhawk  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:09:54pm

re: #15 Lidane

I like the Foo Fighters. In fact, FF > Nirvana.

Also, live music on TV? Awesome.

Always though that Grohl was underrated while in Nirvana, and now his career with the FF has gone on more than twice as long as Nirvana with even greater success (7 years from 1987-1994 versus 18 years; 1994-2012). Dude can rock.

34 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:10:36pm

Wow. That Chipotle Grill ad was aces. Oh, wait McDonald's owns it.

35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:11:17pm

re: #33 lawhawk

Grohl appears to be having fun. Makes me think he'll be around for a while.

36 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:11:26pm

Who ever had the highest sales of the nomines in category = winner.

No respect for the Grammys in any way shape or form.

Though I usually pity the poor unlucky person who gets the best new artist award. All too often it's a kiss of death...

37 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:12:04pm

Uh oh! Time for the airing of grievances!

//

38 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:12:20pm

re: #14 Gus

I like Grohl.

I thought that Probot thing he did was pretty innovative.

39 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:12:24pm

re: #15 Lidane

I like the Foo Fighters. In fact, FF > Nirvana.

Would that I had many more up dings to give.

40 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:12:41pm

What's hilarious about the Grammys is that the Recording Academy is literally across the street from me. I walk by them every time I go to the coffee shop near my house.

41 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:12:59pm

re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist

She is really pretty.

I had a two hour drive on Thursday and listened to the CD of Adele's concert at Royal Albert Hall ... It was awesome.

42 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:13:55pm

re: #36 William Barnett-Lewis

Marc Cohn - Walking in Memphis

43 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:13:58pm

I don't know who to root for...

44 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:15:22pm

re: #42 Long Nics are Looonnng

Marc Cohn - Walking in Memphis

New cover of an old song.

45 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:15:59pm

re: #7 Long Nics are Looonnng

Keep it in your pants, stud. I already called dibs.
/

46 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:16:23pm

re: #44 Look At My New Grandbaby!

New cover of an old song.

Never mind, he's the original artist, I was thinking of the Lonestar cover.

47 lawhawk  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:16:35pm

Ah... a stand against electronic crap and for good old fashioned rock and roll. He's after all, a garage band, from Seattle.

48 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:16:40pm

I'm being retro this evening. Listening to ELO songs via YouTube.

49 lawhawk  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:17:14pm

re: #46 Look At My New Grandbaby!

You have some Yogurt with that? /Dark Helmet

50 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:17:41pm

re: #36 William Barnett-Lewis

Though I usually pity the poor unlucky person who gets the best new artist award. All too often it's a kiss of death...

Lately, yes. In the beginning, though, they had some decent choices:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

However, The Starland Vocal band beating Boston, A Taste of Honey beating Elvis Costello, Christopher Cross beating both The Pretenders and The Go-Go's, and Milli Vanilli winning at all invalidate the award.

51 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:18:01pm

re: #48 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I'm being retro this evening. Listening to ELO songs via YouTube.

Yay.

52 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:18:30pm

If I were gay, I would totally be over Adam Levine.

53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:18:33pm

re: #44 Look At My New Grandbaby!

Nah... that was his... Cher covered it, but he wrote it... performed it... won his Grammy... and poof! he's gone.

Beatles won the Best New Artist Grammy.

Looked it up. Best New Artist Grammy folks normally have very long successful careers.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:19:07pm

re: #45 Slumbering Behemoth

Keep it in your pants, stud. I already called dibs.
/

I have pie.

55 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:19:44pm

re: #54 Long Nics are Looonnng

I have pie.

American Pie?

56 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:19:50pm

re: #52 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

If?
/NTTAWWT

57 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:20:17pm

re: #52 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

If I were gay, I would totally be over Adam Levine.

Hilariously, the gay men on my Twitter feed agree with you. XD

58 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:21:20pm

re: #57 Lidane

Hilariously, the gay men on my Twitter feed agree with you. XD

Hey, I can totally admit that the guy is good-looking.

59 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:23:17pm

re: #53 Long Nics are Looonnng

Nah... that was his... Cher covered it, but he wrote it... performed it... won his Grammy... and poof! he's gone.

I love that song.

60 lawhawk  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:23:33pm

re: #50 Lidane

There were some real competitive early years - 1963 had Robert Goulet win, and the losers? Peter Paul and Mary and the Four Seasons.

1966 - Tom Jones wins over Sunny and Cher and The Byrds

Class of 1970: CSN wins over Chicago and Led Zeppelin.

61 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:24:29pm

Okay y'all. This thing isn't on in my time zone for another hour and a half, so no spoilers.
///

62 lawhawk  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:24:49pm

re: #58 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

The Mrs so totally goes gaga over Adam Levine... and Victor Cruz.... and Taye Diggs....

63 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:24:50pm

I was hoping Foster the People would play Pumped Up Kicks ... Love that tune.

64 chandsolo  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:24:57pm

re: #33 lawhawk

1990-94. :P

65 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:24:58pm

OK. Off to go watch The Walking Dead now. BBL.

66 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:25:04pm

An Obama slogan from DKos comments: "Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive".

67 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:25:52pm

re: #66 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

An Obama slogan from DKos comments: "Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive".

Hasn't Biden been saying that for some time now?

68 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:26:05pm

The Beach Boys look about a 100 years old.. They'll play at the Superbowl within a few years.

69 lawhawk  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:27:20pm

re: #64 chan

Mariah Carey and Toni Braxton were on the money... FWIW

70 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:27:45pm

re: #68 The Hoopster

The Beach Boys look about a 100 years old.. They'll play at the Superbowl within a few years.

Yeah, but Mike Love's nephew Kevin can flat out ball!

71 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:28:53pm

re: #70 _RememberTonyC

Yeah, but Mike Love's nephew Kevin can flat out ball!

Yes he can!

72 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:29:08pm

re: #3 darthstar

Foo Fighters suck...but not as much as the Goo-Goo Dolls.

I'm actually still sad about Whitney...won't watch the Grammies.

Primus sucks!

73 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:29:20pm

I see there's rioting in Greece over the austerity measures...

74 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:29:57pm

re: #73 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

I see there's rioting in Greece over the austerity measures...

All the money they're spending on the riots could probably pay off their debt.

//

75 chandsolo  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:30:58pm

re: #69 lawhawk

Long live Chad Channing!

76 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:31:16pm

re: #74 Gus

All the money they're spending on the riots could probably pay off their debt.

//

Some clever wag should put out a newspaper headline there that Turkey has offered to buy a big chunk of the debt and foreclose on it. I bet that would generate a unifying push.
/

77 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:31:50pm

re: #69 lawhawk

Toni Braxton... Now I wish I was watching. Love Toni Braxton.

78 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:36:11pm

My live feed is all over the place.

79 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:37:50pm

The Walking Dead is the best series on TV right now.

80 prairiefire  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:38:06pm

re: #77 Long Nics are Looonnng

Toni Braxton... Now I wish I was watching. Love Toni Braxton.

She and her family have a reality show "Braxton Family Values." I've got one on the DVR, I haven't watched it yet.

81 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:39:01pm

re: #65 Lidane

re: #79 Charles Johnson

Yeah, I hate you both right now.
/nocablehere

82 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:39:48pm

re: #81 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #79 Charles Johnson

Yeah, I hate you both right now.
/nocablehere

cri moar

83 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:40:08pm

re: #81 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #79 Charles Johnson

Yeah, I hate you both right now.
/nocablehere

Have you heard about the new flushable toilets?

//

84 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:41:40pm

re: #82 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

f-f-fuck you :runs away crying:
/

re: #83 Gus

It's against my religion to pay a monthly bill for commercial television.

85 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:41:56pm

This episode is intense.

86 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:42:16pm

re: #84 Slumbering Behemoth

f-f-fuck you :runs away crying:
/

re: #83 Gus

It's against my religion to pay a monthly bill for commercial television.

Praise Gravel.

87 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:42:34pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Now you're just rubbing it in. Meanie.

88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:43:20pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Woman drivers.
//

89 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:43:35pm

re: #87 Slumbering Behemoth

Intense.

90 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:44:16pm

re: #86 Gus

Netflix is incredibly tempting, but every time I hear of a great old/new series being streamed on there, they somehow decide to stop streaming it.

It's like they don't want my money.

91 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:44:20pm

re: #87 Slumbering Behemoth

Now you're just rubbing it in. Meanie.

Now don't go running into the bathroom writing diabolical messages on the mirror in red lipstick.

//

92 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:44:26pm

I could be watching Walking Dead, but Taylor Swift is singing to me right now.

93 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:44:39pm

And getting more intense.

94 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:45:17pm

I think she's looking for Kanye in the crowd so she can be prepared...

95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:45:34pm

re: #92 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

I could be watching Walking Dead, but Taylor Swift is singing to me right now.

Who's he?

96 freetoken  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:46:16pm

Just ate my first loquat of the season. A mild flavored (sort of apple-ish like a Golden Delicious) one.

Only problem is... it's not supposed to be the "season" yet.

I've never picked on this early - Feb 12th - before. The blooming for the loquat trees was mixed up this year, and a couple of my favorite trees in the neighborhood barely bloomed at all.

Weird.

97 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:46:23pm

re: #91 Gus

re: #93 Charles Johnson

|[

98 Kragar  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:47:28pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

And getting more intense.

You back East right now? Thought it didn't come on till 9?

99 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:48:00pm

re: #97 Slumbering Behemoth

t('')t

100 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:48:13pm

re: #98 Kragar

You back East right now? Thought it didn't come on till 9?

Crystal ball, dumb-ass.

101 Kragar  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:49:30pm

re: #99 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

t('')t

(V)(;,,;)(V)

102 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:50:04pm

Things I've learned from Twitter tonight: Jim Hoft is a Taylor Swift fan.

103 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:50:37pm

re: #96 freetoken

A local bee keeper lost more than half of his (herd? swarm?) due to the unseasonably warm weather.

The bees think there's food to be had, and spend all day trying to find food when there is none to be had instead of hibernating like they should be.

La Niña? AGW? Both?

104 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:51:08pm

re: #99 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

t(t")

105 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:54:38pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

The Walking Dead is the best series on TV right now.

Ever watch Justified?

106 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:55:00pm

Katy Perry is killing it. Great show.

107 freetoken  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:55:50pm

re: #103 Slumbering Behemoth

The trouble that some of the loquats had, I think, is that when they bloomed the bees were not around - too early. Or too late, as some loquats were still trying to bloom just a few weeks ago.

Probably La Nina related, but "seasons" in San Diego doesn't mean much, really. Some years the monsoon season will bring rain, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes the fall months will bring severe Santa Ana conditions (and associate fires), and sometimes they don't. In winter the rains come - except when they don't. Horticulture here is pretty much totally dependent upon human controlled watering.

108 freetoken  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:56:45pm

I see that "Walking Dead" gets very good reviews at IMDB. Not seen the series at all as zombies aren't really my thing. But the reviews rave over it.

109 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:57:30pm

re: #108 freetoken

I see that "Walking Dead" gets very good reviews at IMDB. Not seen the series at all as zombies aren't really my thing. But the reviews rave over it.

It's not about the zombies.

110 Altermite  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:58:41pm

Whatever. Winter is still coming.

111 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:59:25pm

re: #109 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

It's not about the zombies.

Zombies get a bad rap. They're base-line consumers with obvious needs. Should be easy for an ad executive to come up with an effective marketing scheme for them.

And he can be sent to present it in person.

112 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:59:49pm

re: #110 Altermite

Whatever. Winter is still coming.

You're a Stark, aren't you?
;)

113 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:00:24pm

Wow. I've rarely seen such a riveting show on TV. Incredible writing and acting.

114 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:00:59pm

re: #110 Altermite

Whatever. Winter is still coming.

Next year, maybe.

115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:01:02pm

re: #108 freetoken

I see that "Walking Dead" gets very good reviews at IMDB. Not seen the series at all as zombies aren't really my thing. But the reviews rave over it.

It's not so much a zombie show as it is a desperate measures taken by desperate people. Top shelf acting...

The zombies are cool, but they're not the story.

(I normally root for the Zombies... this show? I don't; most of the time)

116 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:01:04pm

I'm not a fan of zombies. I like procedurals. My favorite shows are "Bones" "House" "NCIS Los Angeles" and this show "The finder" which is supposed to fill in for "Bones" while Emily Deschanel is on maternity leave.

I'm getting kind of bored with the "Alcatraz" show. "Time Traveling convict of the week." The cop chick somehow manages to let the bad guy grab her every freaking time! And then the fat guy has to save her.

I really want to see a police drama with a hot guy and a fat chick. There was Morgan and Garcia in "Criminal Minds" but then she lost weight.

117 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:01:05pm

WH post is on memeorandum FP.

118 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:03:20pm

re: #116 Look At My New Grandbaby!

We could put FBV in a dress. Would that work for you?

119 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:03:33pm

And this from the FN comments:

duointherain 4 hours ago
Just Wow... I did get here because there was a news story being written about these comments. Just... wow. If it's any consolation, lots of religious and low tech people come by the forums I hang out in. Not so many fiscal conservatives. They usually have better things to do. It's the ones that derive their self esteem from making other's feel bad that troll. So where does that leave me? I suppose I have a bit of a hero complex, wanting to defend people. You all make me worry about when this takes to the streets.. the Zombies almost...
show more

120 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:04:40pm

And the most recent excuse:

busterbawlz 3 hours ago in reply to sidray
Those comments are also taken out of context.

While I certainly would not offer that 'two wrongs DO make a right',

Goading, by Libtrolls DOES prompt unfortunate replies.

The Libtrolls are here for JUST THAT PURPOSE.

121 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:05:52pm

re: #120 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

Is that like an evolved form of Libplants?

122 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:05:54pm

re: #115 Long Nics are Looonnng

It's not so much a zombie show as it is a desperate measures taken by desperate people. Top shelf acting...

The zombies are cool, but they're not the story.

Zombies chasing two guys isn't especially interesting. One guy shooting the other in the leg to get away from those zombies so at least one of them can make it gets you thinking...

123 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:05:56pm

re: #118 Slumbering Behemoth

We could put FBV in a dress. Would that work for you?

When I said "a hot guy" and "a fat chick" I didn't mean they should be one and the same person!

124 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:06:35pm

Nothing against Adele, but I think I've heard this song way too much.

125 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:06:41pm

re: #122 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

Zombies chasing two guys isn't especially interesting. One guy shooting the other in the leg to get away from those zombies so at least one of htem can make it gets you thinking...

*scribbles in the Survival Tips notebook*

126 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:06:57pm

Don't mind me, I'm not watching TV tonight, I'm building a CentOS LAMP/CMS/Groupware server and grooving to Metheny's Orchestration.

Just logged on as 'root'.
Now turning off the firewall.

Groovy.

127 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:07:13pm

re: #123 Look At My New Grandbaby!

The studio is on a tight budget, you gotta work with me here.
/

128 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:07:45pm

And of course that old racist neo-confederate RSMcCain had to chime in.

129 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:09:45pm

re: #128 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

Lemme guess. Substituting "q"s for "g"s means it's not racist. And that was a liberal plant, anyway.

130 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:10:19pm

re: #128 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

And of course that old racist neo-confederate RSMcCain had to chime in.

That's how he demonstrates how irrelevant I am.

131 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:10:56pm

I love it when racists try to convince us that the shit they say isn't racist.

132 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:11:50pm

re: #129 Slumbering Behemoth

Lemme guess. Substituting "q"s for "g"s means it's not racist. And that was a liberal plant, anyway.

Yes. He, of course, mentions KT's old stunt. Without mentioning that KT wasn't planting any comments, i.e. leaving them under pretense of being one of the conservatives. Rather, in almost each comment he quite explicitly stated his aim.

133 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:12:20pm

re: #129 Slumbering Behemoth

Lemme guess. Substituting "q"s for "g"s means it's not racist. And that was a liberal plant, anyway.

Hilarious ain't it? If anyone was going to troll they wouldn't be so nuanced. These were thought out racist comments and they knew already to use the "q" spelling which something I never even though of. It's pathetic. They're like junkies that refuse to acknowledge they have an addiction problem.

134 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:12:41pm

re: #131 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

I once lived near a guy who made no bones about it. "Fuck yeah I'm a racist".

As you can imagine, he wasn't a very happy guy.

135 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:12:42pm

re: #131 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

I love it when racists try to convince us that the shit they say isn't racist.

They're only talking to each other -- nobody with more than two brain cells is buying what they're selling.

136 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:12:49pm

re: #132 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

Yes. He, of course, mentions KT's old stunt. Without mentioning that KT wasn't planting any comments, i.e. leaving them under pretense of being one of the conservatives. Rather, in almost each comment he quite explicitly stated his aim.

Yeah. RS McCain who thinks "porch monkey" isn't racist.

137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:12:53pm

re: #124 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

Nothing against Adele, but I think I've heard this song way too much.

Not me. Freakin' great song. Freakin' great singer.

Freakin' great.

138 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:13:43pm

IOW a real troll would have gone all out.

139 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:13:59pm

re: #136 Gus

Yeah. RS McCain who thinks "porch monkey" isn't racist.

RS McCain who loves the American Renaissance so much he wrote an article about blacks for them.

140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:14:01pm

re: #134 Slumbering Behemoth

I've known a few racists in my life. None were happy.

141 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:14:07pm

They're nuts.

142 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:14:28pm

Aw, Lady Antebellum won Best Country Album.

Nothing against them, but TSwift is better.

How many of her songs from "Speak Now" charted on the Billboard 100?

ALL OF THEM!!

143 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:14:51pm

re: #137 Long Nics are Looonnng

Not me. Freakin' great song. Freakin' great singer.

Freakin' great.

And a very cool girl too!

144 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:15:14pm
Race and Teenage Pregnancy

The “crisis” is hardly the same for all races.

by Burke C. Dabney

[Link: www.amren.com...]

145 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:16:13pm

re: #144 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

Coincidence!

//

146 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:16:22pm

re: #144 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

White women would have to give birth to 13.5 percent more babies every year in order for the white population just to maintain its current size. Meanwhile, Hispanic and black fertility rates are 62 and 20 percent higher than the white rate, and ensure growing populations while the white population declines. One might well wonder about indiscriminate anti-natalist propaganda when some groups in the country are already below replacement-level fertility. The “success” of such propaganda only accelerates the decline of the white population. If crusaders against teenage motherhood were serious, they would concentrate on the black and Hispanic girls who account for more than half of teenage births. Targeting whites as part of a general campaign is yet another form of racial suicide. We should encourage whites to have children within marriage; instead they are encouraged only to use contraceptives, whether married or single.

147 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:16:44pm

re: #135 Charles Johnson

They're only talking to each other -- nobody with more than two brain cells is buying what they're selling.

Indeed. They seem to be ignoring the fact that comments like that go undeleted, unmoderated, and get many "Likes".

Shit, people who by these excuses couldn't get two brain cells together if they were two dogs in heat.

148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:17:36pm

re: #137 Long Nics are Looonnng

Not me. Freakin' great song. Freakin' great singer.

Freakin' great.

Adele's former boyfriend demanded a slice of the royalties from 21, after learning several of the tracks were inspired by their break-up. She told British newspaper The Sun, "For about a week he was calling and was deadly serious about it. Finally, I said, 'Well, you made my life hell, so I lived it and now I deserve it.' He really thought he'd had some input into the creative process by being a p---k. I'll give him this credit - he made me an adult and put me on the road that I'm traveling."
-From Songfacts.com

149 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:18:12pm

Just had to reboot.

Such mellow guitar work.

Get Adele to sing with Metheny's playing and you have bliss.

150 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:18:21pm

re: #148 Long Nics are Looonnng

European Socialism!

151 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:19:34pm

From Chairman McCain's Little Brown Book:

And so when we see an overreaction to this programme, with people urging a return to Jim Crow or even advocating the formation of separate racial nations, the first thing we must understand is that we're looking at a reaction that is not entirely illogical.

152 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:20:28pm

re: #151 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

Partly to protect blacks from white terrorism, partly to prevent interracial contact which could lead to incidents that might provoke such terrorism, CONSERVATIVE Southerners that is, the most eminent and most revered men in Dixie adopted the convenience of separate public accommodations for blacks and whites.

153 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:21:07pm

re: #152 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

What? What? I don't see any racism in that.

//

154 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:22:16pm

Oh, you made the top of Kos' rec list, too.

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

155 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:22:18pm

Here's why Robert Stacy McCain (aka Burke C. Dabney) is attacking me (again) tonight:

[Link: lgf.bz...]

Heading towards 4,000 clicks on our Twitter link. And that's only a fraction of the total.

156 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:23:05pm

re: #151 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

He's clearly not a Vulcan.

157 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:23:53pm

re: #148 Long Nics are Looonnng

Adele's former boyfriend demanded a slice of the royalties from 21, after learning several of the tracks were inspired by their break-up. She told British newspaper The Sun, "For about a week he was calling and was deadly serious about it. Finally, I said, 'Well, you made my life hell, so I lived it and now I deserve it.' He really thought he'd had some input into the creative process by being a p---k. I'll give him this credit - he made me an adult and put me on the road that I'm traveling."
-From Songfacts.com

My buddy John Hamlin produced the 60 Minutes segment on Adele tonight. He did a great job showing what a cool lady she is. Bravo John, Bravo Adele.

158 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:24:49pm

I've always thought humans were socialist by nature.

159 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:25:39pm

re: #152 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

So by the basic political and religious tenets of Americans in 1860, the existence of slavery should have been no evil, had it not been for the egalitarian phraseology of the Declaration of Independence. The Declaration, thus, is in direct conflict with the Constitution and Judeo-Christian scripture.

160 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:27:13pm

re: #159 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

Intolerable abuses of the powers created by Northern interests, and reflected by the rise of the Republican Party, as detailed in Georgia's explanation of its secession:

[...]

3. Northern states' attempts to nullify fugitive slave laws, thus seeking to deprive Southerners of their property without due process of law.

[...]

Secession in 1860-61 was meant to pre-empt the usurpation of power by the federal government. Look at the manifest abuses of federal power today, and one must conclude that the South was correct in seeing "all the consequences in the principle" -- the heinous imperial principle that the states are mere "districts" or "provinces" of the central government -- and very wisely did they seek to avoid "the consequences by denying the principle."

You can natter on about slavery and racism and treason and such all you want to, but on the main point, the adherents of Leviathan were wrong and the South was right. Smaller governments, having less power, are less abusive than large governments.

161 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:27:39pm

re: #160 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

WANTED for WAR CRIMES: Abraham Lincoln

* Violation of the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
* Unconstitutional suppression of civil liberties in Ohio and other states
* Suspension of the writ of habeas corpus
* Disbanding the legislature of Maryland
* Aggression against the Southern Confederacy

162 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:28:09pm

re: #161 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

Though most 19th-century white Americans, North and South, subscribed to racial theories that consigned blacks to an inferior status as "hewers of wood and drawers of water," it is incorrect to say that slavery was a system based upon racial hatred. Indeed, both white and black Southerners of the era have left us testimony to the cordial and affectionate relations which generally existed between the races in the Old South.

163 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:29:04pm

One of RS McCain's racist friends chimes in:

164 jaunte  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:29:43pm

re: #144 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

"Burke C. Dabney"
The perfect pseudonym to demonstrate that you're not a racist.

165 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:30:02pm

re: #162 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

The intent of ROOTS -- and your intent in endorsing Haley's fraud — seems to have been to say that those slaves who were happy were fools, and that all those who are not outraged by the historical fact of slavery are either fools or malefactors.

166 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:30:49pm

re: #165 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

I'm glad to see, Lynn, that you are a religious Jew. As far as I can tell, much of the anti-Semitism in America today is directed at the secular Jews who worship the Modern Trinity: Darwin, Marx and Freud.

167 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:31:23pm

Well, I hope I've made the point. /

168 jaunte  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:31:59pm

re: #162 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

Indeed, both white and black Southerners of the era have left us testimony to the cordial and affectionate relations which generally existed between the races in the Old South.

I'm sure everyone was free to speak their mind openly.

169 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:33:11pm

OT

Thought I would try out this posting name stuff. I'm using a riff from my post about numbers stations from a while back. The Wikipedia articles have received some updates since then, including recordings from The Lincolnshire Poacher and its eastern sister station, Cherry Ripe.

170 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:34:41pm

re: #164 jaunte

"Burke C. Dabney"
The perfect pseudonym to demonstrate that you're not a racist.

C stands for Calhoun. No joke.

171 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:34:48pm

I need to listen to new music. Never heard of Bon Iver.

172 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:36:38pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

One of RS McCain's racist friends chimes in:

Right. A racist talking to a racist defending racism. Makes sense. Here's a search for "blacks" at his website: blacks site:thoughtsandrantings.com

173 jaunte  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:37:05pm

re: #170 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

He's a serious fan of the Old South.

174 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:38:16pm

re: #172 Gus

Right. A racist talking to a racist defending racism. Makes sense. Here's a search for "blacks" at his website: blacks site:thoughtsandrantings.com

Leave the fish in the barrel alone!/

175 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:38:28pm

re: #173 Stacy McCain's Confederate Ball Gown

He's a serious fan of the Old South.

You think?

176 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:38:38pm

re: #140 Long Nics are Looonnng

I've known a few racists in my life. None were happy.

Well, not since 1964, anyway.

177 BongCrodny  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:39:21pm

re: #168 jaunte

Indeed, both white and black Southerners of the era have left us testimony to the cordial and affectionate relations which generally existed between the races in the Old South.

My brain hurts after reading that.

178 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:39:31pm

re: #172 Gus

Right. A racist talking to a racist defending racism. Makes sense. Here's a search for "blacks" at his website: blacks site:thoughtsandrantings.com

It might be this "Patrick:"

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

179 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:40:29pm

re: #108 freetoken

I see that "Walking Dead" gets very good reviews at IMDB. Not seen the series at all as zombies aren't really my thing. But the reviews rave over it.

The Walking Dead isn't really about the zombies. In fact, you don't see them that much. It's about the people living in the aftermath of a zombie apocalypse.

Great stuff.

180 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:40:30pm

re: #168 Stacy McCain's Confederate Ball Gown

I'm sure everyone was free to speak their mind openly.

No whippings and rapes withstanding.

181 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:40:54pm

heh. That DKos mention is probably going to generate a few more hatchlings.

And I see that Hunter over there has a nice article on Santorum being an unproven theory. All the creationist pseudo-logic and claims in a nice satirical ball.

182 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:42:03pm

re: #181 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

heh. That DKos mention is probably going to generate a few more hatchlings.

And I see that Hunter over there has a nice article on Santorum being an unproven theory. All the creationist pseudo-logic and claims in a nice satirical ball.

The thread was also quoted and credited on Crooks and Liars.

183 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:42:48pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

It might be this "Patrick:"

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

They're seething with rage.

184 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:42:49pm

re: #181 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

heh. That DKos mention is probably going to generate a few more hatchlings.

And I see that Hunter over there has a nice article on Santorum being an unproven theory. All the creationist pseudo-logic and claims in a nice satirical ball.

Do we get to eat the babies?

185 freetoken  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:43:37pm

re: #179 Lidane

The Walking Dead isn't really about the zombies. In fact, you don't see them that much. It's about the people living in the aftermath of a zombie apocalypse.

Thanks. Maybe I'll check it out.

186 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:43:43pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

It might be this "Patrick:"

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

My first thought too, but it's not him.

187 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:45:03pm

re: #185 freetoken

Thanks. Maybe I'll check it out.

I'm pretty sure the first season is on Netflix instant streaming. It's worth your time, no question.

188 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:45:31pm

re: #186 RSMcCain = sh-tstain

My first thought too, but it's not him.

Wait, I'm wrong.

189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:45:37pm

re: #187 Lidane

That's where I saw it.

190 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:46:10pm

re: #188 RSMcCain = sh-tstain

Was thrown off by his "I support Israel" sidebar, though this guy was a raving anti-neocon and antisemite in his Political Byline days.

191 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:48:27pm

re: #159 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)

My Standing Answer to Neo-Confederates:

192 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:49:47pm

re: #190 RSMcCain = sh-tstain

Was thrown off by his "I support Israel" sidebar, though this guy was a raving anti-neocon and antisemite in his Political Byline days.

Just so you know why at first I thought it wasn't this Pat:

[Link: frontpagemag.com...]

"Anti-Semitic Gutter Sludge Attacks Us As “Jew Ass Kissers”"

193 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:50:43pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

It might be this "Patrick:"

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

It's him:

patrick glock site:politicalbyline.com

[Link: politicalbyline.com...]

194 BongCrodny  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:51:58pm

re: #191 Dark_Falcon

My Standing Answer to Neo-Confederates:

[Video]

I see that YouTube has disabled comments for that song.

I'm guessing there was a lot of profanity involved.

195 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:52:32pm

re: #193 Fox News: Not Racist but for Racists

It's him:

patrick glock site:politicalbyline.com

[Link: politicalbyline.com...]

Yep, I thought I recognized that lunatic.

196 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:52:59pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

Yep, I thought I recognized that lunatic.

Here's another Twitter account of his.

[Link: twitter.com...]

197 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:53:55pm

re: #192 RSMcCain = sh-tstain

Screenshot of the post in question, entitled "The Feckless Far-Right: Exhibit ZS for Zionist Stupidity":

Image: zionist.png

But he is all like Israel-supporty now.

198 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:54:10pm

Nice friend you have their McCain!

199 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:57:58pm

re: #125 RSMcCain = sh-tstain

*scribbles in the Survival Tips notebook*

Here's some more ideas.

200 jaunte  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:58:11pm

Some idiots on twitter volunteering to be beaten by Chris Brown if that means they can meet him.

201 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:59:01pm

re: #194 BongCrodny

I see that YouTube has disabled comments for that song.

I'm guessing there was a lot of profanity involved.

Actually no, though there were insults thrown. The real reason Command Centre disabled comments for all Civil War related songs was that the comments were always basically refighting the war. So any civil war related song automatically drew in Neo-Confederates to praise it (if pro-South) or attack it (if pro-North) as well as Unionists who fought battles of words with the Neos. For the most part, the unionists were better behaved and more honest, but commentators both sides engaged in insult flinging. The Neo-Confederates did more and worse BS, but ComCen finally just got sick of it all and closed comments for such songs.

202 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:00:04pm

re: #131 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

I love it when racists try to convince us that the shit they say isn't racist.

They've evolved enough to realize that racism's bad...most of them...so they have to employ clever sophistry to insist that they're not being racist.

Like saying 'knickers' in their raps.

203 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:00:26pm

Hey all!

Paul McCartney needs to stay home;

Tony Bennett is a class act;

Jennifer Hudson's performance was beautiful;

Katie Perry is not Lady Gaga

and

will someone please explain Rihanna to me.

How is everyone?

204 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:00:32pm

re: #197 RSMcCain = sh-tstain

Here's McCain's take on that 2010 scandal:

[Link: theothermccain.com...]

A Short List . . .
. . . of Astoundingly Stupid Things No Conservative Blogger in His Right Mind Would Ever Even Think About Doing:
Publish posts conflating “neocons” and “Jews” in such a way as to provoke accusations of anti-Semitism.
Respond to such accusations by publishing deranged rants against Jews.
Get into hateful public pissing matches with Ace of Spades and other cuddly ewoks who never harmed a fly, at least if the fly usually voted Republican.
Personally attack Michelle Malkin. (Dude. WTF?)
Push that kind of act to such outrageous extremes that one Sunday morning I’m finally confonted with Twitter messages like this:

205 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:02:02pm

re: #199 Romantic Heretic

Sarge is the shit. But Caboose is my favorite.

206 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:02:02pm

re: #168 jaunte

I'm sure everyone was free to speak their mind openly.

They were.

What happened to a black person afterwards was a separate thing not related to racism at all. /

207 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:02:21pm

re: #203 ggt

will someone please explain Rihanna to me.

Marketing.

208 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:02:38pm

re: #158 SH1T My Conscience Says

I've always thought humans were socialist by nature.

I've always thought the opposite.

209 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:04:17pm

re: #204 RSMcCain = sh-tstain

Here's DetroitRight's AKA PaleoPat's AKA Charles Patrick Adkins' post that I guarantee wasn't planted by Charles Johnson ;)

For the Record….:
Bill Kristol is a JEW
Andrew BreitBart is a JEW
Pamela Geller is a JEW
Matt Drudge is a JEW
John Podhoretz is a JEW
The people I have listed, are the one’s who are shrieking the loudest about this Mosque; and yes, they are ALL JEWS. Does that make me an Anti-Semite? No. It does not. It makes me someone, who is aware of the facts —- That the Neo-Conservative JEWS are making this damned Mosque a political issue, instead of a local issue.
I can tolerate diversity of opinion, but damned dirty pool, I will not tolerate and I will expose these idiots for what they are and that are the lying scum that they are.
There is nothing I cannot STAND worse than Identity Politics of the LEFT and that is the Identity Politics and under-handed crap of the Zionist right!

210 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:05:44pm

re: #207 Lidane

Marketing.

I guess, she is very pretty and has a beautiful voice. I hope she get's to evolve in her talent as she grows older.

211 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:05:51pm

re: #209 RSMcCain = sh-tstain

I'm very glad this deranged SOB doesn't live near me.

212 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:06:01pm

re: #200 jaunte

Some idiots on twitter volunteering to be beaten by Chris Brown if that means they can meet him.

Why are you trying to inspire me to spit on the living room rug?

213 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:06:53pm

re: #205 Slumbering Behemoth

Sarge is the shit. But Caboose is my favorite.

"Yes. I am a gay robot."

214 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:07:04pm

I was rather amazed at the Beach Boys --50 years? I guess beach living is good for the body.

215 jaunte  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:07:42pm

re: #212 SanFranciscoZionist

I'll try to think of something funnier.

216 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:08:10pm

re: #212 SanFranciscoZionist

Why are you trying to inspire me to spit on the living room rug?

Why would you spit on your own rug?

217 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:11:23pm
218 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:11:30pm

re: #216 ggt

Taking the high road on this one. You're all welcome.

219 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:12:01pm

What is the USA's "country number" if you are trying to call here from another country?

220 jaunte  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:12:16pm

James Urbaniak @JamesUrbaniak re Nicki Minaj:
This is the "Total Eclipse of the Heart" video levels of forced weirdness.

221 freetoken  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:12:38pm

re: #219 ggt

AFAIK it's always been "1".

222 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:12:58pm

re: #221 freetoken

AFAIK it's always been "1".

ah!

223 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:13:11pm

re: #219 ggt

What is the USA's "country number" if you are trying to call here from another country?

We're number 1! We're number 1!

(Well, we are.)

224 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:14:41pm

My buddy Terry Lacona, of Austin City Limits, produced the last two Grammy shows. Thought he did a pretty good job of tap dancing given the changes that needed to be made today. Good job!

225 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:15:12pm

Some people are slowpokes:

I thought Little Green Footballs was a wingnut (1+ / 0-)
site. No?

226 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:15:26pm

re: #203 ggt

Hey all!

Paul McCartney needs to stay home;

Tony Bennett is a class act;

Jennifer Hudson's performance was beautiful;

Katie Perry is not Lady Gaga

and

will someone please explain Rihanna to me.

How is everyone?

listening to Iggy Pop, yourself?

227 freetoken  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:15:39pm

re: #222 ggt

However, every local phone company may require something else be dialed to get to an international service.

Sometimes I've seen it listed in two digits as 01, or in three digits as 001, and so on.

When I lived in Japan, to call the US using my cell phone service I had to dial three digits.

228 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:15:50pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

I'm very glad this deranged SOB doesn't live near me.

Chuck Adkins also made this.

DU reference.

229 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:16:06pm

re: #224 austin_blue

My buddy Terry Lacona, of Austin City Limits, produced the last two Grammy shows. Thought he did a pretty good job of tap dancing given the changes that needed to be made today. Good job!

Jimmy Cliff is on ASL right now. They're having a party (pre-recorded)... but damn, they're having a party.

230 BongCrodny  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:18:00pm

Wanna thank everyone for not spoiling "The Walking Dead."

I'm on the East Coast, and 11:00 just seems like a better time to watch it than 9:00. :-)

231 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:18:17pm

re: #226 windupbird is in the gravity well

232 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:18:50pm

re: #224 austin_blue

My buddy Terry Lacona, of Austin City Limits, produced the last two Grammy shows. Thought he did a pretty good job of tap dancing given the changes that needed to be made today. Good job!

I understand.. But I thought Jeniffer Hudson singing Whitney should have ended the show.. It was beautiful..It was kind of washed out by Chris Brown following it with a Rap/Pop song...Way to be in the moment producers...

233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:19:08pm

re: #220 Stacy McCain's Confederate Gray Teeth

James Urbaniak @JamesUrbaniak re Nicki Minaj:
This is the "Total Eclipse of the Heart" video levels of forced weirdness.

"Hey! That angel guy just felt me up!"
-Total Eclipse of the Heart, Literal Version

234 Kragar  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:19:14pm

re: #231 windupbird is in the gravity well

[Video]

Flight of the Conchords here

235 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:19:24pm

oh yeah, the grammys

236 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:19:50pm

re: #234 Kragar

they're so good at that shit. Fashion is danger!

237 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:19:57pm

re: #230 BongCrodny

Wanna thank everyone for not spoiling "The Walking Dead."

I'm on the East Coast, and 11:00 just seems like a better time to watch it than 9:00. :-)

(They're like zombies. They're walking dead.)

238 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:20:18pm

re: #234 Kragar

also, casio synth guitar ftw

239 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:20:42pm

re: #228 Fox News: Not Racist but for Racists

Chuck Adkins also made this.

DU reference.

Proof: [Link: politicalbyline.com...]

240 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:20:57pm

So there's RS McCain's Twitter buddy.

Classic. Taken down in less than 30 minutes.

Try again McCain. You're still failing. Nice racist buddy ya' got there.

241 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:21:00pm

ADELE CLEANS UP.

242 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:21:31pm

re: #232 The Hoopster

I understand.. But I thought Jeniffer Hudson singing Whitney should have ended the show.. I was beautiful..It was kind of washed out by Chris Brown following it with a Rap/Pop song...Way to be in the moment producers...

Yeah, I'm pretty tired of Chris Brown and Rihanna.

243 Kragar  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:21:41pm

re: #236 windupbird is in the gravity well

they're so good at that shit. Fashion is danger!

Anyone who can write a song which has lyrics like this deserves awesomeness.

Look to your left, what a beautiful sight,
It's Paula, Paula Thompson, nee Paula Wright.
Look at her hair, it's still gorgeous, even now.
Flowing like the Womahonga River,
Which incidently, is to your right.
And it's the largest, in the area
In terms of volume.
Everybody, look at Paula, look at Paula Thompson
I always thought I'd marry Paula
But some things just don't work out that way
Well, that's the most important thing you'll learn on the tour today
That, and the fact there'll be a toliet break
At the information center near the manmade lake

244 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:21:46pm

re: #209 RSMcCain = sh-tstain

The vipers are fanging each other.

245 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:21:57pm

re: #239 RSMcCain = sh-tstain

Proof: [Link: politicalbyline.com...]

This freak has managed to piss-off just about everybody on all sides.

246 wee fury  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:23:20pm

Downton Abby was good.
I also like Adele.

247 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:23:56pm

Is it just me or were there a lot of not just normal and healthy, but seriously overweight people on stage tonite?

Is there any middle ground between emaciated or muscle bound or overweight?

Are there any normal people?

248 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:24:20pm

Why is Paul McCartney singing on stage?

249 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:24:47pm

re: #240 Fox News: Not Racist but for Racists

So there's RS McCain's Twitter buddy.

Classic. Taken down in less than 30 minutes.

Try again McCain. You're still failing. Nice racist buddy ya' got there.

250 jaunte  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:25:05pm

re: #247 ggt

The camera adds between 10 and 15 weirdness points.

251 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:25:23pm

re: #250 Stacy McCain's Confederate Gray Teeth

The camera adds between 10 and 15 weirdness points.

true

252 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:25:29pm

Now this is the end Terry wanted. Sir Paul sending us off.

253 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:26:56pm

re: #248 ggt

Why is Paul McCartney singing on stage?

Because he's considered a 'safe' way to end the evening, as opposed to Nicky Minaji whose video swipe at the Catholic Church annoyed me and is going to earn her some serious criticism.

254 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:26:58pm

re: #240 Fox News: Not Racist but for Racists

So there's RS McCain's Twitter buddy.

Classic. Taken down in less than 30 minutes.

Try again McCain. You're still failing. Nice racist buddy ya' got there.

To be fair, McCain condemned him in pretty strong terms in 2010. So unless there's evidence that he "forgave" him, he's not McCain's buddy anymore. I did not find him among Pat's readers.

255 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:27:18pm

Honestly, I didn't think it was that great of a show.

The performances were good, somehow it didn't flow --bad producing?

256 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:28:02pm

re: #253 Dark_Falcon

Because he's considered a 'safe' way to end the evening, as opposed to Nicky Minaji whose video swipe at the Catholic Church annoyed me and is going to earn her some serious criticism.

AFAI am concerned the Church can *&%!

I'm not happy with it right now.

257 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:29:47pm

They'll finish "And In The End".

258 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:30:29pm

I understand having Glenn Campbell on stage, he is doing good work right now.

There seemed the only the very old and the very young featured tonite.

Weird all around.

259 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:31:25pm

re: #258 ggt

I understand having Glenn Campbell on stage, he is doing good work right now.

There seemed the only the very old and the very young featured tonite.

Weird all around.

Everyone in between is vying for the next Superbowl halftime.

260 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:31:25pm

re: #253 Dark_Falcon

Because he's considered a 'safe' way to end the evening, as opposed to Nicky Minaji whose video swipe at the Catholic Church annoyed me and is going to earn her some serious criticism.

What about Paul's swipe at my ears?!?!

Yeah, I went there.

:)

261 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:31:59pm

re: #260 Varek Raith

What about Paul's swipe at my ears?!?!

Yeah, I went there.

:)

What, no Force Choke?

262 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:32:23pm

THe little girl on the bus singing Adele in the Target commercial was awesome. I could have listened to her sing the rest of the song.

263 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:32:35pm

re: #253 Dark_Falcon

Eh. The criticism I've seen of Nicki Minaj has nothing to do with the Church and everyone saying that she tried too hard to outdo Lady GaGa. I've seen people calling it this week's Lana Del Rey incident.

264 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:32:38pm

re: #258 ggt

I understand having Glenn Campbell on stage, he is doing good work right now.

There seemed the only the very old and the very young featured tonite.

Weird all around.

They had to rebuild the entire show in the12 hours after Whitney's death last night. Think about it. All in all, a good job.

265 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:32:41pm

re: #259 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Everyone in between is vying for the next Superbowl halftime.

Yeah, I noticed that.

266 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:32:42pm

Pat caused some conservative blogger to write:

Dreidelfuck you with a gefilte fish.

Now, that one is an instant classic.

267 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:33:03pm

re: #254 RSMcCain = sh-tstain

To be fair, McCain condemned him in pretty strong terms in 2010. So unless there's evidence that he "forgave" him, he's not McCain's buddy anymore. I did not find him among Pat's readers.

That's fine then. They're not buddies. They both have their own unique freakishness.

268 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:33:32pm

re: #264 austin_blue

They had to rebuild the entire show in the12 hours after Whitney's death last night. Think about it. All in all, a good job.

I know, it's all I could think about the whole time. I'm sure it was that way with the performers and staff as well.

269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:35:43pm

Final Rant before bedtime.

Anyone who purchased a Chris Brown album since he beat his girlfriend almost to death, is no friend of women.

270 Kragar  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:37:03pm

re: #269 Long Nics are Looonnng

Final Rant before bedtime.

Anyone who purchased a Chris Brown album since he beat his girlfriend almost to death, is no friend of women.

One can say that about many of the turds in the music industry.

271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:38:03pm

re: #270 Kragar

Then let's keep saying it until it makes some type of difference. When I saw that fucker on stage at a Grammy "rave", I wanted to see someone stomp a mudhole in his ass.

272 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:39:22pm

re: #269 Long Nics are Looonnng

Final Rant before bedtime.

Anyone who purchased a Chris Brown album since he beat his girlfriend almost to death, is no friend of women.

From what I understand, she punches back.

Strange pair.

273 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:41:33pm

re: #269 Long Nics are Looonnng

Final Rant before bedtime.

Anyone who purchased a Chris Brown album since he beat his girlfriend almost to death, is no friend of women.

I'm Not Okay With Chris Brown Performing at the Grammys and I'm Not Sure Why You Are

274 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:42:29pm

re: #272 ggt

Good for her, though that's anything but a fair fight.

275 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:43:21pm

re: #273 Lidane

Linky no worky.

Edit: Oops, never mind.

276 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:43:50pm

re: #275 Slumbering Behemoth

Linky no worky.

Try again. Their hamsters couldn't keep up.

277 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:44:18pm

re: #275 Slumbering Behemoth

Yeah. I just noticed that. It worked when I got it, then it didn't and now I've refreshed it and it works again. Weird.

278 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:44:27pm

Charles, a possible bug. When I'm trying to click on Mich-again's profile while in the Spy, I get this:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

279 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:44:35pm

re: #269 Long Nics are Looonnng

Final Rant before bedtime.

Anyone who purchased a Chris Brown album since he beat his girlfriend almost to death, is no friend of women.

I'm distant enough from pop music nowadays to have no idea who he his. Which makes me pretty sure I've never purchased any of his music.

280 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:45:44pm

re: #273 Lidane

Micheal Vick caught more shit for what he did. Not saying it's equivalent, I'm just saying that shit ain't right.

281 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:47:03pm

Whitney looking very 80's.

I had a pink fuzzy sweater too!

282 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:48:03pm

re: #280 Slumbering Behemoth

Micheal Vick caught more shit for what he did. Not saying it's equivalent, I'm just saying that shit ain't right.

Want to see something really shameful?

25 Extremely Upsetting Reactions To Chris Brown At The Grammys

283 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:49:43pm

re: #274 Slumbering Behemoth

Good for her, though that's anything but a fair fight.

No not at all, yet sometimes, I've noticied, it takes two.

Unless we see serial abuse from either party, I'm not sure I can make a judgement.

Alcohol, drugs and two of the wrong people together can make for bad, bad behavior. I say this because I've seen it for myself.

It's not my life, so I can't really say.

284 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:49:48pm

mainstream music industry is like mainstream politics, it's full of criminals and soulless garbage :D The occasional hero, but mostly garbage

285 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:50:53pm

re: #282 Lidane

Want to see something really shameful?

25 Extremely Upsetting Reactions To Chris Brown At The Grammys

stupid starfuckers are stupid.

286 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:51:07pm

lady gaga would qualify as a hero

287 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:51:13pm
288 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:51:19pm

re: #266 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

Pat caused some conservative blogger to write:

Now, that one is an instant classic.

Loves it! Prefect way to flip the anti-Semitic asshat the bird.

289 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:51:26pm

re: #281 ggt

Whitney looking very 80's.

I had a pink fuzzy sweater too!

I'm also pissed about Bobby Brown..My opinion is that he brought down Whitney

290 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:52:17pm

re: #282 Lidane

It's sad, but there really are people like that. People that are fine, and sometimes enjoy that sort of thing. Warped masochists.

It's depressing.

On the other hand, my respect for Jay-Z went up by a million points.

Jay-Z, one of Rihanna’s mentors, spoke up: “You have to have compassion for others. Just imagine it being your sister or mom and then think about how we should talk about that. I just think we should all support her.”

291 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:54:01pm

re: #282 Lidane

Want to see something really shameful?

25 Extremely Upsetting Reactions To Chris Brown At The Grammys

I am guessing that those young ladies have no idea what domestic violence feels like.

292 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:55:10pm

re: #289 The Hoopster

I'm also pissed about Bobby Brown..My opinion is that he brought down Whitney

I have the impression it was a mix of two mutually destructive personalities. If anything reinforcing the negatives in each other.

293 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:56:02pm

Have a great night all!

294 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:59:45pm

I'll never forget the day that my family told me that my newly-married sister was in an abusive situation. They had only suspected at first, and had tried to give her a way out of the marriage, but she had gone through with the wedding. (It would be another two years of encouragement by the family and assistance from my brother and sister-in-law before she just got fed up and walked out.)

I remember how I realized I had been taking for granted that I was safe in my own home. My father would never have hit us. My husband would not hit me.

Not all women are safe in their own homes. I won't ever forget that.

295 Mich-again  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:03:28pm

Foo Fighters rocked. I loved when Grohl talked about how the album was recorded in his garage and then went on to talk about how music isn't about what a computer can do but what's in here (points at heart) and what's in here (points at head). I've been into rock since the late 60's and Foo Fighters are right up there with the great bands from any era.

And it was really nice to see Adele sing again. I was a little worried how the recovery from throat surgery was going. She wasn't 100% but it was awesome. She needs to ditch the 4 shows a week touring schedule next time. No one can sing with that much power every other day for long.

296 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:04:59pm

I need to move away from music music for a moment to post something I've been meaning to mention:

A group of gun-banners called the "National Gun Victims Action Council" has called for a boycott of Starbucks on Valentine's Day, as Starbucks does not prohibit people holding a valid concealed carry permit from bringing their firearm into a Starbucks in areas where that is legal. In reply, a "Buycott" counter-plan is being promoted. The idea is to buy something from Starbucks on the 14th using $2 bills (2 for the 2nd Amendment and also because the reverse side of the bill contains a picture of the signing of the Declaration of Independence). I support the Buycott and urge my fellow lizards to join me on Tuesday in telling the gun-grabbers off!

297 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:08:43pm

re: #295 Mich-again

Foo Fighters rocked. I loved when Grohl talked about how the album was recorded in his garage and then went on to talk about how music isn't about what a computer can do but what's in here (points at heart) and what's in here (points at head). I've been into rock since the late 60's and Foo Fighters are right up there with the great bands from any era.

And it was really nice to see Adele sing again. I was a little worried how the recovery from throat surgery was going. She wasn't 100% but it was awesome. She needs to ditch the 4 shows a week touring schedule next time. No one can sing with that much power every other day for long.

She has the talent to be around a long time. She doesn't need to cash in while the hype's still strong.

298 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:10:09pm

re: #295 Mich-again

The Black Keys recorded their second LP in an abandoned rubber factory. Fancy shit not necessary.

299 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:13:02pm

re: #298 Slumbering Behemoth

The Black Keys recorded their second LP in an abandoned rubber factory. Fancy shit not necessary.

Good acoustics are. Talent is. Good writing is.

300 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:14:08pm

re: #296 Dark_Falcon

Much as I would like to...

1) I don't like their product.
2) I don't have any $2 bills.
3) I'm too cursedly frugal to buy brewed coffee when I can brew at home.

They'll have to be content with the fact that I support them in spirit, if not financially.

301 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:15:20pm

Hey, Dark?
You might find these AARs a fun read.
[Link: aurora2.pentarch.org...]

302 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:15:42pm

re: #299 Ooh, look, shiny...

I like their stripped down, lo-fi sound. It screams "punk rock" more than any modern punk that's being recorded.

303 Mich-again  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:17:26pm

re: #297 Ooh, look, shiny...

I don't think the 4 shows per week schedule was all her choice. I think it was her management looking to cash in as much as possible on their contract with her. The singer is the one person in the band that does best when they practice the least.

304 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:18:07pm

re: #300 Slumbering Behemoth

Much as I would like to...

1) I don't like their product.

Agreed. Their regular brewed coffee is terrible.

2) I don't have any $2 bills.

Same here, even though I used to have a customer at a restaurant I used to manage that would pay with everything in $2 bills. It was weird.

3) I'm too cursedly frugal to buy brewed coffee when I can brew at home.

That too. I'll also add this:

4) Ever since I bought a French press, I'm a convert. Regular brewed coffee doesn't taste right to me anymore.

305 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:21:07pm

re: #304 Lidane

Agreed. Their regular brewed coffee is terrible.

The only people who like Starbucks' coffee are the ones who buy that overly sugared, flavored crap. I don't.

I like my coffee like I like my women. Cold, green, and moldy.
/that's for you Walking Dead fans.

306 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:21:26pm

re: #304 Lidane

Agreed. Their regular brewed coffee is terrible.

Same here, even though I used to have a customer at a restaurant I used to manage that would pay with everything in $2 bills. It was weird.

That too. I'll also add this:

4) Ever since I bought a French press, I'm a convert. Regular brewed coffee doesn't taste right to me anymore.

They do sell hot chocolate.

307 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:22:15pm

Speaking of coffee...
*Runs off to make some*

308 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:26:17pm

re: #296 Dark_Falcon

Heh. In a country where it's okay to throw texters out of movie theatres, it's not okay to ask that gun carriers leave their pieces in the car.

309 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:26:36pm

re: #307 Varek Raith

Speaking of coffee...
*Runs off to make some*

No, don't! Putin's agents put polonium in there!

310 Mich-again  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:26:46pm

I'm gonna go to Starbucks and when I order i'm gonna pretend I have a gun in my vest pocket and order a frappe with a shot of vanilla and whipped cream and a cherry on top. ha

311 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:27:27pm

re: #309 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

No, don't! Putin's agents put polonium in there!

I should get drunk. Not feeling it yet.

//

312 Kronocide  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:28:41pm

re: #305 Slumbering Behemoth

The only people who like Starbucks' coffee are the ones who buy that overly sugared, flavored crap. I don't.

I like the convenience of a decent cup of joe. But when I stay home it's the press, sometimes with friend's coffee they grew or roasted.

But what I meant to say was the Black Keys are epic. Their Pandora station just kicks ass.

313 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:29:03pm

re: #300 Slumbering Behemoth

Much as I would like to...

1) I don't like their product.
2) I don't have any $2 bills.
3) I'm too cursedly frugal to buy brewed coffee when I can brew at home.

They'll have to be content with the fact that I support them in spirit, if not financially.

1. Try their breakfast sandwiches. They're quite good.

2. You can get them at the bank tomorrow.

3. Then don't get coffee. Starbucks sells other things. Get an orange juice.

314 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:29:15pm

re: #310 Mich-again

You'd have to be packing for real if you wanted me to make something like that and call it "coffee".
/

315 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:29:18pm

re: #311 Gus

I should get drunk. Not feeling it yet.

//

Some people are immune. They don't die, just grow tentacles.

Have you had any strange bumps lately?

//

316 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:31:15pm

re: #315 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

Some people are immune. They don't die, just grow tentacles.

Have you had any strange bumps lately?

//

Argh. Don't ask. I'm probably about 5 years behind everything.

317 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:31:29pm

re: #313 Dark_Falcon

Tell you what... you spend $4. $2 in my honor, and I'll get you back next time you're in town.

318 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:33:15pm

re: #313 Dark_Falcon

Music Reviewer on the Internet I watch was ticked that Lady Antebellum got the "Best Country Album" award.

Lady Antebellum is decent but every single song on "Speak Now" got onto the Billboard Top 100. Even those not released as singles.

Taylor Swift>Lady Antebellum

319 EdDantes  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:33:33pm

We are on a three hour delay here on the left coast, so I'm seeing the grammys after many of you. IMO most of the music sucked. The only thing that saved this broadcast was the Beach Boys. It is unlikely we will ever see Brian Wilson with the other surviving members of the best American rock group of all time. I knew some of the Beach Boys would be there but I never thought Brian would participate. Good vibrations.

320 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:34:22pm

re: #319 EdDantes

We are on a three hour delay here on the left coast, so I'm seeing the grammys after many of you. IMO most of the music sucked. The only thing that saved this broadcast was the Beach Boys. It is unlikely we will ever see Brian Wilson with the other surviving members of the best American rock group of all time. I knew some of the Beach Boys would be there but I never thought Brian would participate. Good vibrations.

I think I would characterize the Beach Boys as pop, not rock.

321 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:34:36pm

re: #318 ProGunLiberal

I get the impression that you're a fan of that Taylor Swift feller.
////

322 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:34:52pm

Whew. Between CPAC, the Whitney Houston/Fox News comments, the contraception craziness, the "knickers" rap video... brb gonna fill up the glass.

323 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:35:46pm

re: #322 Gus

If you need an excuse to drink, ur doin it rong.
///

324 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:35:50pm

re: #321 Slumbering Behemoth

I get the impression that you're a fan of that Taylor Swift feller.
///

Anyway, who's Taylor Swift? I guess I should look that up in wiki.

/I'm serious btw.

325 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:36:08pm

re: #321 Slumbering Behemoth

One of my Top 5.

The other 4 are Trans-Siberian Orchestra, Nightwish, Queen, and Bon Jovi.

326 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:36:12pm

re: #308 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

Heh. In a country where it's okay to throw texters out of movie theatres, it's not okay to ask that gun carriers leave their pieces in the car.

That's not it at all: The gun-banners I wrote about want Starbucks boycotted for not telling "gun carriers [to] leave their pieces in the car". That's not asking someone to do something, that's demanding someone stop someone else from doing something. That's a very different kettle of fish.

327 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:36:53pm

"is an American country pop singer-songwriter, musician and actress".

Oh-kay.

328 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:36:57pm

re: #324 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

Anyway, who's Taylor Swift? I guess I should look that up in wiki.

/I'm serious btw.

SMACK!

329 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:37:44pm

re: #325 ProGunLiberal

One of my Top 5.

The other 4 are Trans-Siberian Orchestra, Nightwish, Queen, and Bon Jovi.

What's the best of Nightwish?

330 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:38:15pm

re: #328 Dark_Falcon

SMACK!

I don't listen to country!

331 EdDantes  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:39:05pm

re: #320 Ooh, look, shiny...

ok

332 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:39:18pm

re: #330 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

I don't listen to country!

I knew it, you are Putin!

/lame joke about broken english...

333 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:40:15pm

re: #332 Slumbering Behemoth

I knew it, you are Putin!

/lame joke about broken english...

Do you prefer hot tea or an umbrella?

334 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:40:32pm

Allison Krauss and Union Station won for bluegrass. Yeah, I know, only I care. I would have hated to go up against her. Chris Thile had an album, but I bet he knew he would lose to his old mentor.

This brings her to a total of 26 Grammys. That is not a typo.

335 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:40:48pm

re: #329 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

I can't decide between Dark Passion Play and Imaginarium album-wise. They are both Fantastic.

Song-wise, either Storytime from Imaginarium, or Seven Days to the Wolves from Dark Passion Play.

I like Anette better as the singer. Because I can understand the lyrics better.

336 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:43:01pm

re: #326 Dark_Falcon

That's not it at all: The gun-banners I wrote about want Starbucks boycotted for not telling "gun carriers [to] leave their pieces in the car". That's not asking someone to do something, that's demanding someone stop someone else from doing something. That's a very different kettle of fish.

What if the "gun banners" were simply asking Starbucks politely to ask customers to leave their firearms in their cars, rather than staging a boycott? Would you have a problem with that?

337 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:43:57pm

re: #326 Dark_Falcon

Hrm. Well okay, that is different.

338 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:44:05pm

re: #325 ProGunLiberal

One of my Top 5.

The other 4 are Trans-Siberian Orchestra, Nightwish, Queen, and Bon Jovi.

aka Savatage

339 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:45:31pm

re: #333 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

I demand execution by Ivana Humpalot!

340 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:46:14pm

re: #339 Slumbering Behemoth

I demand execution by Ivana Humpalot!

Image: 76d75654-5ab6-4807-98f1-4ed1f668daa6.jpg

341 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:46:18pm

I like maybe only 10 things by TSO, and most of them are classic covers, like the dance of the Mountain King. Otherwise it seems a bit monotonous.

342 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:46:30pm

re: #338 windupbird is in the gravity well

I am aware of that.

From them, my favorite album would have to be Nightcastle.

But my favorite song is "This is Who You Are" from Beethoven's Last Night.

343 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:47:56pm

re: #339 Slumbering Behemoth

I demand execution by Ivana Humpalot!

Sorry, reserved for British spies with bad teeth.

344 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:49:00pm

And, or you guys here who lived and liked the 70's and 80's, I have this.

345 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:50:36pm
346 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:51:00pm

re: #339 Slumbering Behemoth

We can send you a replacement though:

347 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:52:00pm

re: #336 palomino

What if the "gun banners" were simply asking Starbucks politely to ask customers to leave their firearms in their cars, rather than staging a boycott? Would you have a problem with that?

Why Starbucks instead of say McDonalds or Pinkberry? This is the part I don't quite get, why they're being singled out. In most states that issue them a legal concealed carry permit is presumed valid in such a non-alcohol serving public establishments unless the owner puts up signage specifically barring all weapons from the premises. Most chains aren't going to want to clutter up their storefronts with unnecessary signage, especially when the people supposedly carrying weapons are carrying them concealed and legally.

348 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:52:23pm

re: #336 palomino

What if the "gun banners" were simply asking Starbucks politely to ask customers to leave their firearms in their cars, rather than staging a boycott? Would you have a problem with that?

Not really, though I'd expect them to respect Starbucks' decision. And at first they did ask, and Starbucks politely told them 'no'. So then they issued a demand and mounted several protests, whereupon Starbucks made clear they did not take a position on guns but simply did not consider customers exercising concealed carry in their establishments. So then the gun-banners called for the boycott. So your scenario has in fact already happened and the result was escalation by the anti-gun crowd. They're sore about losing the Heller and MacDonald cases before the Supreme Court and so are seeking to push private businesses into not allowing guns. This is not some nasty action by the right-wing: It's a nasty action by the left-wing that is drawing a non-nasty right-wing response.

349 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:53:36pm

re: #343 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

Sorry, reserved for British spies with bad teeth.

The Baroness, then? Please?

350 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:53:59pm

re: #348 Dark_Falcon

Not really, though I'd expect them to respect Starbucks' decision. And at first they did ask, and Starbucks politely told them 'no'. So then they issued a demand and mounted several protests, whereupon Starbucks made clear they did not take a position on guns but simply did not consider customers exercising concealed carry in their establishments. So then the gun-banners called for the boycott. So your scenario has in fact already happened and the result was escalation by the anti-gun crowd. They're sore about losing the Heller and MacDonald cases before the Supreme Court and so are seeking to push private businesses into not allowing guns. This is not some nasty action by the right-wing: It's a nasty action by the left-wing that is drawing a non-nasty right-wing response.

And yet, I can't carry my lightsaber.
WTF???

351 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:54:19pm

re: #296 Dark_Falcon

I need to move away from music music for a moment to post something I've been meaning to mention:

A group of gun-banners called the "National Gun Victims Action Council" has called for a boycott of Starbucks on Valentine's Day, as Starbucks does not prohibit people holding a valid concealed carry permit from bringing their firearm into a Starbucks in areas where that is legal. In reply, a "Buycott" counter-plan is being promoted. The idea is to buy something from Starbucks on the 14th using $2 bills (2 for the 2nd Amendment and also because the reverse side of the bill contains a picture of the signing of the Declaration of Independence). I support the Buycott and urge my fellow lizards to join me on Tuesday in telling the gun-grabbers off!

OK. What's the deal. That site's almost, normal. Saw a couple of threads related to Obama (getting OBL and repealing the CC in parks) and didn't see any of the usual anti-Obama weirdness. As far as Starbucks allowing people with CC in places where CC is legal I think that's up to them. I mean, if it's legal it's not like they're doing anything unusual in their neighborhood. If they can legally decide not to allow it then that would be their option as well. It's not Starbuck's "fault" if people are allowed to enter stores with guns. That's just the way the laws are written.

352 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:55:12pm

re: #351 Gus

OK. What's the deal. That site's almost, normal. Saw a couple of threads related to Obama (getting OBL and repealing the CC in parks) and didn't see any of the usual anti-Obama weirdness. As far as Starbucks allowing people with CC in places where CC is legal I think that's up to them. I mean, if it's legal it's not like they're doing anything unusual in their neighborhood. If they can legally decide not to allow it then that would be their option as well. It's not Starbuck's "fault" if people are allowed to enter stores with guns. That's just the way the laws are written.

If they're gonna protest, they should protest the ones who passed the laws.
Not Starbucks.

353 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:55:34pm

re: #352 Varek Raith

If they're gonna protest, they should protest the ones who passed the laws.
Not Starbucks.

Right.

354 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:56:40pm

re: #352 Varek Raith

If they're gonna protest, they should protest the ones who passed the laws.
Not Starbucks.

And say you had a coffee shop in, I don't know. Gunnut, North Dakota or something. You think you'd be telling people, "sorry, no guns." Erm, uh. How long would your business last?

355 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:56:50pm

re: #350 Varek Raith

And yet, I can't carry my lightsaber.
WTF???

It's your own fault for that time you gutted the three Gammoreans in the Quiznos for insulting your ship.

Should have known better.

356 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:57:12pm

re: #348 Dark_Falcon

So then they issued a demand and mounted several protests, whereupon Starbucks made clear they did not take a position on guns but simply did not consider customers exercising concealed carry in their establishments. So then the gun-banners called for the boycott.

SBUX has a very good reason not to want to put up signs banning guns at the entrance to all their stores, it suggests the presence of firearms and plants the idea in the mind of the customer. You walk in, see that sign and the first thing you think is, "Shit, they must have a real problem with gun crime here, why else would they feel the need to put up such a sign." Suddenly the customer doesn't feel safe anymore and business drops off.

357 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:57:49pm

And again. Something I've said a billion times before. If some nut is going to go psycho it won't matter what the CC laws are. They're going to go psycho regardless.

358 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:57:57pm

re: #332 Slumbering Behemoth

I knew it, you are Putin!

/lame joke about broken english...

If he were Putin, he'd like this:

Seriously, Vladimir Putin is an ABBA fan.

359 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:58:15pm

re: #350 Varek Raith

And yet, I can't carry my lightsaber.
WTF???

You're an evil galactic overlord, or something, no? Who can stop you? That is, unless your father smelled of elderberries.

//

360 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:58:38pm

re: #346 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

A blind Vampiress with a sneeze fetish? Hmm... not my usual thing, but I can work with that. Deal.

361 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:59:02pm

OK, let's go hold up this bank!

Are you sure Joe? Guns aren't legal in this town.

Hmmm. You're right Tony. Let's go hold up a bank in a town where guns are legal!

//

362 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:00:20pm

re: #356 goddamnedfrank

SBUX has a very good reason not to want to put up signs banning guns at the entrance to all their stores, it suggests the presence of firearms and plants the idea in the mind of the customer. You walk in, see that sign and the first thing you think is, "Shit, they must have a real problem with gun crime here, why else would they feel the need to put up such a sign." Suddenly the customer doesn't feel safe anymore and business drops off.

Thank you for that, Frank. I had not thought of that. Though that could also be part of the point for the anti-gun people: To promote "scary gun" images. Anti-gun groups have done that in the past.

363 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:00:37pm

re: #359 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

You're an evil galactic overlord, or something, no? Who can stop you? That is, unless your father smelled of elderberries.

//

Consider you species extinct!

364 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:01:38pm

re: #348 Dark_Falcon

Not really, though I'd expect them to respect Starbucks' decision. And at first they did ask, and Starbucks politely told them 'no'. So then they issued a demand and mounted several protests, whereupon Starbucks made clear they did not take a position on guns but simply did not consider customers exercising concealed carry in their establishments. So then the gun-banners called for the boycott. So your scenario has in fact already happened and the result was escalation by the anti-gun crowd. They're sore about losing the Heller and MacDonald cases before the Supreme Court and so are seeking to push private businesses into not allowing guns. This is not some nasty action by the right-wing: It's a nasty action by the left-wing that is drawing a non-nasty right-wing response.

You may not agree with the "gun banners" concerns about open carry violence, but their actions are hardly "nasty." A one day boycott of Starbucks? Big deal. MBF fail.

It's certainly nothing like boycotting a store permanently because one of its spokespeople is a lesbian.

365 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:02:14pm

re: #350 Varek Raith

And yet, I can't carry my lightsaber.
WTF???

You're a known quantity, and not in a good way. No one wants you carrying a lightsaber anywhere, Sith.

366 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:02:20pm

re: #363 Varek Raith

Consider you species extinct!

Will 1 hour be enough, or shall I taunt you some more?

//

367 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:02:40pm

re: #364 palomino

You may not agree with the "gun banners" concerns about open carry violence, but their actions are hardly "nasty." A one day boycott of Starbucks? Big deal. MBF fail.

It's certainly nothing like boycotting a store permanently because one of its spokespeople is a lesbian.

Well that's not a big deal either. They're both right to a certain extent.

368 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:03:25pm

re: #351 Gus

OK. What's the deal. That site's almost, normal. Saw a couple of threads related to Obama (getting OBL and repealing the CC in parks) and didn't see any of the usual anti-Obama weirdness. As far as Starbucks allowing people with CC in places where CC is legal I think that's up to them. I mean, if it's legal it's not like they're doing anything unusual in their neighborhood. If they can legally decide not to allow it then that would be their option as well. It's not Starbuck's "fault" if people are allowed to enter stores with guns. That's just the way the laws are written.

It's Tactical is devoted to practical issues and is more interested in talking about gear than bashing Obama. It's not a political site, and it seeks to be seen as sane (which from my observation it is), an image it would lose if it spewed Bad Craziness.

369 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:03:55pm

Still. Tony Soprano isn't going to walk up to a Starbucks and after seeing a sign that says, NO GUNS, and turn around and tell the rest of his boys, "OK guys we better leave are pieces in the car.

//

370 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:04:45pm

So...
No howitzers at Starbucks?
:(

371 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:05:38pm

re: #347 goddamnedfrank

Why Starbucks instead of say McDonalds or Pinkberry? This is the part I don't quite get, why they're being singled out. In most states that issue them a legal concealed carry permit is presumed valid in such a non-alcohol serving public establishments unless the owner puts up signage specifically barring all weapons from the premises. Most chains aren't going to want to clutter up their storefronts with unnecessary signage, especially when the people supposedly carrying weapons are carrying them concealed and legally.

I agree it seems arbitrary. But if you think about the demo that likely frequents Starbucks, it's probably less pro-gun than McDonalds. Also, Starbucks now covers about 10% of the earth's surface, so you don't have to travel far. I used to live in a part of LA where there were 5 Starbucks within a one mile radius.

372 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:06:09pm

re: #364 palomino

You may not agree with the "gun banners" concerns about open carry violence, but their actions are hardly "nasty." A one day boycott of Starbucks? Big deal. MBF fail.

It's certainly nothing like boycotting a store permanently because one of its spokespeople is a lesbian.

You can't call an MBF fail while invoking an MBF. Okay, I guess you can, but those two things are not related.

373 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:07:20pm

re: #371 palomino

There are TWO Starbucks on campus, less than a half mile from each other.

Also, Taylor Swift is trending on Twitter.

374 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:08:14pm
375 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:08:17pm

re: #372 Slumbering Behemoth

You can't call an MBF fail while invoking an MBF. Okay, I guess you can, but those two things are not related.

I didn't invoke the MBF. DF did with his original post...see the last part.

376 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:09:46pm

re: #371 palomino

Also, Starbucks now covers about 10% of the earth's surface, so you don't have to travel far.

That's a conservative estimate. NSFW

377 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:09:51pm

re: #362 Dark_Falcon

Thank you for that, Frank. I had not thought of that. Though that could also be part of the point for the anti-gun people: To promote "scary gun" images. Anti-gun groups have done that in the past.

My ex wife used to work at the Astor Place Starbucks in Manhattan, one the busiest if not the busiest store in the entire chain. They had a real problem with junkies shooting up in the bathroom. What they didn't do was put up a sign saying "No hypodermic needles allowed." They were just really careful about cleaning the bathrooms and educated their employees to be on the lookout for suspicious behavior.

Even when a business is dealing with a legitimate issue (and CC permit holders in stores just isn't one) often the least productive course of action from a business standpoint is to make their customers mindful of it.

378 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:10:43pm

re: #367 Gus

Well that's not a big deal either. They're both right to a certain extent.

But one act of bigotry lasts a day. The other is planned to last forever, or at least until JCPenney goes back to pretending like lesbians don't exist, so that homophobes won't feel uncomfortable walking through a JCP.

379 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:10:46pm

re: #376 Slumbering Behemoth

That's a conservative estimate. NSFW

Your powers are weak old man.

380 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:11:36pm

re: #375 palomino

I didn't invoke the MBF. DF did with his original post...see the last part.

You MBFed by posing a right-wing protest against a left-wing protest.

381 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:12:25pm

re: #379 Varek Raith

They must be, 'cuz that went right over my head.

382 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:12:48pm

re: #381 Slumbering Behemoth

They must be, 'cuz that went right over my head.

My 374.

383 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:13:19pm

Not related to anything here: there's a fine, but real line between a MBF and a call for consistency. Sometimes the latter is branded as the former.

384 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:13:21pm

re: #378 palomino

But one act of bigotry lasts a day. The other is planned to last forever, or at least until JCPenney goes back to pretending like lesbians don't exist, so that homophobes won't feel uncomfortable walking through a JCP.

That site seemed pretty normal as far as gun sites are concerned. Didn't see any ad hominems or the usual wingnut talk.

385 Big Joe  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:13:31pm

We have 3 Starbucks within 1 block of each other, and a Peet's a block and a half away. Peet's is the crystal meth of coffee.

386 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:13:51pm

re: #374 Varek Raith

Starbucks.
[Link: comedians.jokes.com...]

Ha. I get your other post now. Never mind.
t("t)

387 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:15:21pm

re: #383 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

Well, if I fucked that up, I'd expect you to call me on it.

388 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:15:24pm

What are you going to put in your shrimp cocktails, jackass?!?!

389 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:16:15pm

re: #387 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, if I fucked that up, I'd expect you to call me on it.

As I said, not related, except for a mention of MBF. I'm sooo not reading the CC discussion ;)

390 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:17:37pm

Dr. Atomic won the "Opera" category. Meh.

But the real abomination is Eric Whitacre winning for Light & Gold (Choral). Maybe the Mayans were right about 2012.

391 Gus  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:17:54pm

You know. It wasn't like they said...

We must stop this Obama Marxist war against legal gun ownership and stop this left-wing moonbat hippie rapey-stabby organization from legally entering Starbucks with are guns. We thus call a buycott to stop the Tranzi progressives from taking away our gunzz! Chuckles and his Peronist ringleader Gus802 fail againz!!11ty

392 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:19:34pm

re: #380 Slumbering Behemoth

You MBFed by posing a right-wing protest against a left-wing protest.

When someone argues on cultural issues, as DF did, that there are really bad people on both sides, so don't blame the right any more than the left, I'm sorry, but a correction is in order. When he referred to "similar nastiness" on the right, I thought of JCP since it's by far the most high profile right-wing boycott in quite a while. And yet, the degree of nastiness is nowhere near equivalent. Asking someone to keep their gun in their car doesn't quite rise to the level of demonizing 15 million gay Americans.

393 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:20:38pm

re: #384 Gus

That site seemed pretty normal as far as gun sites are concerned. Didn't see any ad hominems or the usual wingnut talk.

You'd admit we're not talking about a very high bar here, right?

394 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:22:25pm

re: #392 palomino

I'm sorry, I see what you're talking about now. I skimmed right over that one.
Point = Palomino.

395 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:23:22pm

re: #394 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm sorry, I see what you're talking about now. I skimmed right over that one.
Point = Palomino.

Thanks man.

396 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:24:15pm

re: #393 palomino

Careful. There are plenty of lefty gun owners/enthusiasts out there. And in here.

397 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:25:01pm

(س("س Y U NO FUN?

398 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:25:04pm

re: #327 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

"is an American country pop singer-songwriter, musician and actress".

Oh-kay.

Pretty twenty-something pop singer.

Many of my students are fans. So is ProLifeLiberal, I believe.

399 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:26:23pm

re: #397 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

Y U NO PAY?

400 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:27:32pm

I made the mistake of buying a membership to the 2nd Amendment Foundation last year. There's a local kitchen table FFL here that gives a hefty discount on his fee to receive firearms from out of state if you have a membership to a gun rights organization and I thought what the hell. Now I get a hefty dose of crackpot right wing propaganda at least once a week, from either them, the NRA or some other goofball org wanting me to be very, very afraid that President Obama is going to confiscate mah shootin' irons. So fucking lame.

401 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:29:41pm

re: #375 palomino

I didn't invoke the MBF. DF did with his original post...see the last part.

My #296 contains no Magical Balance Fairy incantations.

402 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:29:46pm

re: #400 goddamnedfrank

I can't tell you the number of guns I have that were supposed to be taken away by Democratic POTUSes.

/Really, I can't. I don't have any.

403 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:30:17pm

re: #399 Slumbering Behemoth

Y U NO PAY?

I pay strictly in Rolling Stones.

404 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:31:21pm

re: #403 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

I pay strictly in Rolling Stones.

That's some big moola.

405 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:32:32pm

re: #396 Slumbering Behemoth

Careful. There are plenty of lefty gun owners/enthusiasts out there. And in here.

I'm not a "gun banner," as DF would call them. (Where did that term come from...it sounds Limbaugh-esque.) I grew up around guns, and most of the people in my family own firearms.

I may not be a "lifelong hunter" like Mitt Romney...But I know how to shoot. Many Texans would call me a pussy because I preferred trap and skeet shooting to actually killing stuff (just don't see the sport in it, hate bullfighting too).

Anyway I don't think there's anything wrong with background checks, waiting periods, etc...doesn't seem like an unconstitutional intrusion to make getting a gun as hard as getting a drivers license.

406 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:32:51pm

re: #404 Varek Raith

Sergey definitely comes from Old Money.

407 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:33:05pm

re: #401 Dark_Falcon

My #296 contains no Magical Balance Fairy incantations.

You're right, your MBF came later.

408 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:33:38pm

re: #402 Slumbering Behemoth

I can't tell you the number of guns I have that were supposed to be taken away by Democratic POTUSes.

/Really, I can't. I don't have any.

That's because they took them all, duh. If there were no Democrats everyone would have a couple of suitcase nukes and a 66 megajoule railgun for duck hunting.

409 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:33:41pm

re: #406 Slumbering Behemoth

Sergey definitely comes from Old Money.

Wait..isn't Sergey from the former Soviet Union? How can anyone there be old money?

410 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:35:01pm

re: #408 goddamnedfrank

That's because they took them all, duh. If there were no Democrats everyone would have a couple of suitcase nukes and a 66 megajoule railgun for duck hunting.

I have a 1 exawatt laser.
For squirrel hunting.

411 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:35:12pm

re: #409 Ooh, look, shiny...

Wait..isn't Sergey from the former Soviet Union? How can anyone there be old money?

Hidden for 70 years...

412 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:35:49pm

re: #410 Varek Raith

I have a 1 exawatt laser.
For squirrel hunting.

How's the species elimination proceeding?

413 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:35:52pm

re: #405 palomino

I'd like to go hunting, just to learn the skills involved. Would totally suck balls if I got stranded somewhere remote. Unlikely, but I also have a Zombie Plan, so sue me.

I also agree that background checks are reasonable. Unreasonable ammo taxes are total ass, though.

414 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:36:39pm

From SANE people on Twitter: I didn't know they gave a #Grammy for punching your girlfriend. #chrisbrown!

415 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:37:18pm

re: #402 Slumbering Behemoth

I can't tell you the number of guns I have that were supposed to be taken away by Democratic POTUSes.

/Really, I can't. I don't have any.

Gun and ammo sales went through the roof after Obama's election, so powerful was the insane rhetoric that he was somehow going to singlehandedly confiscate everyone's firearms.

Here's an MBF for everyone: I didn't believe it when I constantly heard that W was trying to control every aspect of my life, and I sure as hell don't believe it now when it's said about Obama. Can anyone tell me how their life is being controlled in any way by Obama? And yet Beck thrives on repeating that mantra daily to people whose lives are the same now as 4 years ago.

416 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:37:43pm

re: #414 SanFranciscoZionist

Exactly what I want to hear.

Personally, I kinda wish somebody would deck that woman-beating pig.

417 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:37:46pm

re: #409 Ooh, look, shiny...

I just assumed. I mean, he's got a bank roll large enough to choke a whale.

418 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:38:42pm

re: #417 Slumbering Behemoth

I just assumed. I mean, he's got a bank roll large enough to choke a whale.

You... I...

Ѡ

419 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:38:50pm

re: #410 Varek Raith

I have a 1 exawatt laser.
For squirrel hunting.

I have a Vogon poet laureate that I use to shorten my wait time at the DMV.

420 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:39:21pm

re: #418 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

Why do I see a butt your response?

421 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:40:32pm

re: #415 palomino

Can anyone tell me how their life is being controlled in any way by Obama?

I'm no longer allowed to wear knickers in public?
/fuck that crowder bastard

422 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:41:28pm

re: #420 ProGunLiberal

Why do I see a butt your response?

He's got money coming out of the wazzooo. Poor bastard, have you seen the size of his currency?

423 Kragar  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:42:07pm

re: #421 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm no longer allowed to wear knickers in public?
/fuck that crowder bastard

I believe you spell Knickers niqqers nowadays.
/

424 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:43:58pm

Anyone know where I can find a breakdown of NATO forces by country?

425 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:44:23pm

re: #392 palomino

When someone argues on cultural issues, as DF did, that there are really bad people on both sides, so don't blame the right any more than the left, I'm sorry, but a correction is in order. When he referred to "similar nastiness" on the right, I thought of JCP since it's by far the most high profile right-wing boycott in quite a while. And yet, the degree of nastiness is nowhere near equivalent. Asking someone to keep their gun in their car doesn't quite rise to the level of demonizing 15 million gay Americans.

There's that phrasing again: "Asking someone to keep their gun in their car". That's NOT what this is about, for the second time. This is about an organization saying to Starbucks "We don't think you should allow concealed firearms in your stores" and after being repeatedly told "Thank you, but we've decided to keep our current policy" has decided to boycott Starbuck for refusing to require law-abiding CCW permit holders to not bring in their weapon. This is not about "asking", and that needs to be clear.

426 Kragar  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:44:24pm

re: #424 Varek Raith

Anyone know where I can find a breakdown of NATO forces by country?

[Link: www.nato.int...]

427 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:44:30pm

re: #424 Varek Raith

Anyone know where I can find a breakdown of NATO forces by country?

Too late, 1 hour has passed. You failed!

/

428 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:44:44pm

re: #414 SanFranciscoZionist

The perfect musical response to Chris Brown:

The F-Bomb for the Whole Family!!

429 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:45:00pm

re: #423 Kragar

Hey! Those were libtard trolls! What? What do you mean "why did you leave those comments standing"? What do you mean "What about all the "Likes"?

I... just... Look! Over there! a Liberal Plant!!!

430 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:47:02pm

What does the LED Backlight on a Monitor do?

431 Kragar  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:47:32pm

re: #430 ProGunLiberal

What does the LED Backlight on a Monitor do?

things

432 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:48:12pm

re: #431 Kragar

I'd appreciate more specific-ness.

433 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:48:17pm

re: #413 Slumbering Behemoth

I'd like to go hunting, just to learn the skills involved. Would totally suck balls if I got stranded somewhere remote. Unlikely, but I also have a Zombie Plan, so sue me.

I also agree that background checks are reasonable. Unreasonable ammo taxes are total ass, though.

I shot a squirrel when I was 10. Just one shot, it died almost immediately. But I'll never forget the bloodcurdling shriek the animal made just as it got hit. Decided I didn't want to ever hear that sound again. I just thought, "What the hell was the point of that?"

OTOH, if I lived up in the hills of Tennessee with Jed and Ellie Mae, killing varmints would make sense. It would be food and clothing, not just a selfish thrill.

434 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:49:14pm

re: #430 ProGunLiberal

What does the LED Backlight on a Monitor do?

LCD's do not produce light themselves like a CRT does.
Hence, the need for a backlight.

435 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:50:07pm

re: #434 Varek Raith

I see some LCD monitors without them.

Assume that those aren't worth looking at.

436 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:50:13pm

re: #430 ProGunLiberal

What does the LED Backlight on a Monitor do?

It slowly replaces your soul with an imperceptible, ethereal, radioactive substance.

On the down side? No soul.

On the up side? No eternal torment, and maybe Spider-Man powers. Porn hunting, Spider-Man powers.

437 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:50:40pm

re: #421 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm no longer allowed to wear knickers in public?
/fuck that crowder bastard

The guy thinks he's a right wing George Carlin/Jon Stewart. Maybe there's one out there, but it's not Crowder.

438 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:51:13pm

re: #430 ProGunLiberal

What does the LED Backlight on a Monitor do?

Just an alternative to cold cathodes. Another way to light up the screen. Thinner and more energy efficient.

439 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:54:00pm

I can't stand LCDs without lighting.
You can turn down the brightness in the monitor menu (usually).

440 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:54:58pm

re: #433 palomino

Killing animals for fun is not on my list of things to do. But if I did go hunting, it would be for a purpose. Either for balancing, or using that beast in a way that befits true hunting.

441 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:56:40pm

re: #440 Slumbering Behemoth

Killing animals for fun is not on my list of things to do. But if I did go hunting, it would be for a purpose. Either for balancing, or using that beast in a way that befits true hunting.

Look! A bunny!
FUS RO DAH!!!

442 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:56:42pm

re: #435 ProGunLiberal

I see some LCD monitors without them.

Assume that those aren't worth looking at.

Not neccessarily. LEDs generally cost more per inch. It's more noticeable the bigger you get.

Get your minds out of the gutter.

443 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:58:01pm

re: #442 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

Get your minds out of the gutter.

Stop being a boob, dick.

444 Kragar  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:00:43pm

re: #432 ProGunLiberal

I'd appreciate more specific-ness.

Sure, be ungrateful.
/

445 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:03:16pm

re: #425 Dark_Falcon

There's that phrasing again: "Asking someone to keep their gun in their car". That's NOT what this is about, for the second time. This is about an organization saying to Starbucks "We don't think you should allow concealed firearms in your stores" and after being repeatedly told "Thank you, but we've decided to keep our current policy" has decided to boycott Starbuck for refusing to require law-abiding CCW permit holders to not bring in their weapon. This is not about "asking", and that needs to be clear.

OK, the protesters are not "asking", they're "demanding", or they're "demanding that Starbucks demand...", except that they really are asking because they're in no position to demand anything of a private corp. So what you're really upset about is that they're asking impolitely, in the form of a one-day boycott.

And MY point is that a one-day boycott is nothing to get worked up over. It's a pretty mild form of democratic protest. It's hardly the "nastiness" that you described above.

446 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:07:21pm

re: #445 palomino

OK, the protesters are not "asking", they're "demanding", or they're "demanding that Starbucks demand...", except that they really are asking because they're in no position to demand anything of a private corp. So what you're really upset about is that they're asking impolitely, in the form of a one-day boycott.

And MY point is that a one-day boycott is nothing to get worked up over. It's a pretty mild form of democratic protest. It's hardly the "nastiness" that you described above.

I'm not worked up about it. I'm not going to rant or rave, I'm just going to make a counter-protest statement by buying from Starbucks on Tuesday with $2 bills. And that's all that is being proposed by me: No calls to "fight leftist oligarhy", just a call to stage an appropriate and non-confrontational counter protest.

447 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:07:40pm

re: #445 palomino

OK, the protesters are not "asking", they're "demanding", or they're "demanding that Starbucks demand...", except that they really are asking because they're in no position to demand anything of a private corp. So what you're really upset about is that they're asking impolitely, in the form of a one-day boycott.

And MY point is that a one-day boycott is nothing to get worked up over. It's a pretty mild form of democratic protest. It's hardly the "nastiness" that you described above.

It certainly doesn't rise to the level of the anti woman's rights, anti science and anti gay bigotry proudly displayed by the GOP. I just wish that the gun control advocates would realize how counter productive their shit is in the current environment and take a goddamned powder.

448 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:10:17pm

Starbucks would have to pay me to drink that "coffee."

449 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:10:21pm

re: #447 goddamnedfrank

It certainly doesn't rise to the level of the anti woman's rights, anti science and anti gay bigotry proudly displayed by the GOP. I just wish that the gun control advocates would realize how counter productive their shit is in the current environment and take a goddamned powder.

Again, thank you Frank. Said well and fairly. And with that I'm going to bed. Goodnight, all.

450 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:10:24pm

re: #440 Slumbering Behemoth

Killing animals for fun is not on my list of things to do. But if I did go hunting, it would be for a purpose. Either for balancing, or using that beast in a way that befits true hunting.

As long as there's a reason and you're not killing anything endangered, I'd be a total hypocrite to complain. Among other things, I eat meat and wear leather.

Had a friend in middle school whose family's house had a "safari room," filled with heads and other body parts (many used creatively to make furniture) of animals they bagged in Africa. Seemed really cool at the time.

35 years later the whole thing seems kinda grotesque, as most of those species (the elephants, rhinos, lions at least) are off limits due to their endangered status.

451 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:13:59pm

re: #446 Dark_Falcon

I'm not worked up about it. I'm not going to rant or rave, I'm just going to make a counter-protest statement by buying from Starbucks on Tuesday with $2 bills. And that's all that is being proposed by me: No calls to "fight leftist oligarhy", just a call to stage an appropriate and non-confrontational counter protest.

I haven't seen a 2-dollar bill in circulation in years. Are you actually gonna go to the bank and get 2-dollar bills specifically so you can stand in solidarity with the 8 or 9 Americans who, for whatever reason, want to take a gun into a Starbucks?

452 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:20:22pm

re: #447 goddamnedfrank

It certainly doesn't rise to the level of the anti woman's rights, anti science and anti gay bigotry proudly displayed by the GOP. I just wish that the gun control advocates would realize how counter productive their shit is in the current environment and take a goddamned powder.

Actually the gun control advocates (a fair term, as opposed to "gun banners") haven't been on the mainstream news radar much over the last few years. Partly because the left in Congress isn't really all that left; and partly because the Dems cut their losses on the issue; and partly because crime rates are down so much that gun proliferation is less of a concern. And partly etc. etc.

453 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:20:57pm

re: #446 Dark_Falcon

Up The Oligarhy!!!

No one appreciates the true genius of Glenn Beck anymore.
/

454 Lidane  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:24:43pm

re: #452 palomino

Partly because the left in Congress isn't really all that left; and partly because the Dems cut their losses on the issue; and partly because crime rates are down so much that gun proliferation is less of a concern. And partly etc. etc.

Exactly.

Gun control was a much bigger issue a long time ago. I can't remember the last time that the elected Dems got all hopped up on gun control laws. Most of the time, I hear arguments for enforcing the laws we have instead of adding new ones.

455 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:25:27pm

re: #450 palomino

Had a friend in middle school whose family's house had a "safari room," filled with heads and other body parts (many used creatively to make furniture) of animals they bagged in Africa. Seemed really cool at the time.

35 years later the whole thing seems kinda grotesque, as most of those species (the elephants, rhinos, lions at least) are off limits due to their endangered status.

I get where you're coming from, but hunters of ancient time would have done the same. No piece unused nor wasted.

456 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:29:35pm

re: #455 Slumbering Behemoth

I get where you're coming from, but hunters of ancient time would have done the same. No piece unused nor wasted.

Times change...I'm sure 100 years earlier, that same family would have owned slaves. Hell, mine might have too. I'd like to think that I could have morally transcended my geography and era, but you gotta be realistic.

457 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:33:13pm

re: #456 palomino

I'm thinking that if you're gonna hunt, it behooves you (no pun intended) to make use of everything you take. Hunting simply for the sake of trophies, though, is total bullshit.

458 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:34:42pm

re: #446 Dark_Falcon

I'm not worked up about it. I'm not going to rant or rave, I'm just going to make a counter-protest statement by buying from Starbucks on Tuesday with $2 bills. And that's all that is being proposed by me: No calls to "fight leftist oligarhy", just a call to stage an appropriate and non-confrontational counter protest.

Makes sense. You don't like boycott, you buycott.

459 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:40:49pm

Is it wrong that I still find Cyndi Lauper hawt?

You know what, forget you. If it's wrong, I don't wanna be right.

460 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:41:11pm

re: #457 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm thinking that if you're gonna hunt, it behooves you (no pun intended) to make use of everything you take. Hunting simply for the sake of trophies, though, is total bullshit.

Absolutely. And I think that sympathy for animals is a sign of human progress.

Sorry to blather on about Starbucks, but if one of your friends, let's call him Joe, came up to you and said, "Hey, man, I'm really pissed off because I can't take my gun into Starbucks," what would your response be?

Mine would be, "Dude, why the hell do you wanna take your gun into Starbucks?" What's the threat? The baristas with their piping hot coffee machines? The hyper-caffeinated soccer moms? The coffee mafia? I know it's all about the principle, but sometimes the details override the principle and we get into surreal territory.

461 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:42:13pm

re: #459 Slumbering Behemoth

Is it wrong that I still find Cyndi Lauper hawt?

You know what, forget you. If it's wrong, I don't wanna be right.

I'm gonna pretend like I didn't read this post.

462 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:43:32pm

re: #460 palomino

That's not exactly the argument though, at least as I read it. And there are at least a few professions where CC is not only acceptable, but pretty much expected.

463 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:44:31pm

re: #455 Slumbering Behemoth

I get where you're coming from, but hunters of ancient time would have done the same. No piece unused nor wasted.

Hunters of ancient times didn't know about extinction.

(According to a Cracked article, the reason North America has no native horses left is that they were DELICIOUS. Also, wild camels? DELICIOUS.)

464 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:44:33pm

re: #461 palomino

All discussion of CC and boycotts aside, NOW we have a fucking problem!!!
///

465 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:46:46pm

re: #462 Slumbering Behemoth

That's not exactly the argument though, at least as I read it. And there are at least a few professions where CC is not only acceptable, but pretty much expected.

If you gotta carry, you gotta carry...of course.

But for the average Joe the Plumber, why would it cross your mind to take a gun into Starbucks? Unless you carry a gun all the time everywhere you go, which I find kinda strange.

466 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:48:42pm

re: #465 palomino

If you gotta carry, you gotta carry...of course.

But for the average Joe the Plumber, why would it cross your mind to take a gun into Starbucks? Unless you carry a gun all the time everywhere you go, which I find kinda strange.

If you're legally carrying concealed, why does it matter whether you go into Starbucks or Peets?

467 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:49:19pm

re: #464 Slumbering Behemoth

All discussion of CC and boycotts aside, NOW we have a fucking problem!!!
///

I liked her back in the 80's, even that drippy song "Time after Time." But times have changed, and what used to be so cute is now maybe a little, or a lot, less so.

468 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:51:42pm

re: #465 palomino

Certain professions not related to law enforcement necessitate it. Body guards and diamond transporters come to mind.

I've no interest in denying them their second amendment rights, nor in denying them their right to over-pay for shitty coffee.

469 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:52:08pm

re: #466 SanFranciscoZionist

If you're legally carrying concealed, why does it matter whether you go into Starbucks or Peets?

It doesn't, unless Starbucks has a history of more violence than Peet's. I just find it kind of strange that a civilian would think, "Hey, I need to carry a firearm with me wherever I go, all hours of the day or night, including a coffee shop where the most dangerous thing is a burnt tongue from hot coffee."

470 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:53:04pm

re: #467 palomino

Oh for fuck's sake. That does it. I'm dumping salt on your lawn!
///

471 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:54:05pm

re: #469 palomino

It doesn't, unless Starbucks has a history of more violence than Peet's. I just find it kind of strange that a civilian would think, "Hey, I need to carry a firearm with me wherever I go, all hours of the day or night, including a coffee shop where the most dangerous thing is a burnt tongue from hot coffee."

I don't know. Some of those ladies get pretty jittery if their skinny half-caff latte doesn't work out.

472 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:54:09pm

re: #468 Slumbering Behemoth

Certain professions not related to law enforcement necessitate it. Body guards and diamond transporters come to mind.

I've no interest in denying them their second amendment rights, nor in denying them their right to over-pay for shitty coffee.

Sure, there are lots of jobs where you might be required to carry. I'm just trying to think of why a sane civilian would think to himself, "I'm going to Starbucks, better lock and load!"

473 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:54:45pm

re: #470 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh for fuck's sake. That does it. I'm dumping salt on your lawn!
///

It already looks like shit, you'd be wasting your time.

474 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:57:50pm

re: #472 palomino

Sure, there are lots of jobs where you might be required to carry. I'm just trying to think of why a sane civilian would think to himself, "I'm going to Starbucks, better lock and load!"

Well, the logical take would be that said folk don't "lock and load" just to go to Starbucks, but do so as part of their profession or daily routine.

And in some areas, there is more danger in bringing your laptop to a coffee shop than there is in bringing your side arm.

475 palomino  Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:59:20pm

re: #471 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't know. Some of those ladies get pretty jittery if their skinny half-caff latte doesn't work out.

That's why I can't stand those places. It's not the prices, it's everybody so hopped up--too hyper, too happy, too tense, laughing at everything.

Good night everybody. And please keep your guns at home if you go to Starbucks. Save the firearms for Burger King.

476 Altermite  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 12:01:04am

re: #469 palomino

It doesn't, unless Starbucks has a history of more violence than Peet's. I just find it kind of strange that a civilian would think, "Hey, I need to carry a firearm with me wherever I go, all hours of the day or night, including a coffee shop where the most dangerous thing is a burnt tongue from hot coffee."

If my tongue is burnt, I shoot it.

But in all honesty, I get DF's irritation. There might not be a need to carry a gun into a starbucks, but there also isn't much of a need for this sort of nonsense- its obviously mostly to inconvenience gun-owners. And it does seem to fly in the face of 2nd amendment issues at least a bit.

477 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 12:06:24am

Starbucks patrons just aren't smart enough nor responsible enough to be trusted with firearms.

There. I said it.
///

478 Lidane  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 12:07:20am

re: #472 palomino

Sure, there are lots of jobs where you might be required to carry. I'm just trying to think of why a sane civilian would think to himself, "I'm going to Starbucks, better lock and load!"

The only place I can think of offhand where I don't want guns around, concealed carry or not, is in a bar or club. Guns & alcohol don't mix, and clubs and bars are private property.

If I'm in a coffee shop, guns are the least of my worries. Usually, the pretentious hipsters talking about indie films or the two college girls loudly dissecting another girl's love life are enough.

479 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 12:20:35am

re: #478 Lidane

Usually, the pretentious hipsters talking about indie films or the two college girls loudly dissecting another girl's love life are enough.

B-b-b-but what if they are carrying firearms? Firearms that... You. Can't. See.

You are insufficiently paranoid about this issue.

480 freetoken  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 12:58:44am
481 Kragar  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 12:59:32am
482 dell*nix  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 1:09:06am

Wanda Jackson Candy Man

Enjoy

483 researchok  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 1:23:56am

Morning, all

484 researchok  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 1:29:57am

re: #480 freetoken

Favorited.

Hands down, a top ten selection.

There are re recordings and there are re recordings.

This is right up there.

TY

486 AK-47%  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 2:56:57am

re: #477 Slumbering Behemoth

Starbucks patrons just aren't smart enough nor responsible enough to be trusted with firearms.

There. I said it.
///

guns and espresso is a dangerous combination

487 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:29:07am

Good Morning Honcos!

Starbucks simply abides by the local gun laws. Why is this a controversy?

Also, Hannibal (the elephant dude, not Lecter) was a loser. If I was wrong he would be named Hannibal Italius and Scipio would only have peanut butter named after him. Discuss.
//

488 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:38:05am

re: #487 Boy, You got a panty on your head.

Good Morning Honcos!

Starbucks simply abides by the local gun laws. Why is this a controversy?

Also, Hannibal (the elephant dude, not Lecter) was a loser. If I was wrong he would be named Hannibal Italius and Scipio would only have peanut butter named after him. Discuss.
//

You should be punic'ed for that.

489 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:39:24am

re: #488 Decatur Deb

You should be punic'ed for that.

If you did, it would be a Phyrric victory at best.
//

490 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:40:22am

re: #489 Boy, You got a panty on your head.

If you did, it would be a Phyrric victory at best.
//

Always go for the jurgathine.

491 AK-47%  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:40:35am

I cannae help meself!

492 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:42:39am

I like Sergey's new screen name. :)

493 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:44:01am

The only thing is that a gefilte fish is kind of squishy, so maybe he should change his screen name to Gefiltef**k Racists With A Dreidel

494 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:48:01am

re: #459 Slumbering Behemoth

Is it wrong that I still find Cyndi Lauper hawt?

You know what, forget you. If it's wrong, I don't wanna be right.

Very much liked CL--probably the last pop star I did like. We could have gone with her, but the kids gave their souls to Madonna.

495 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:53:54am

Off to class. Enjoy the day Lizards!

496 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:55:40am

Got to dress out and open the hoophouse before it cooks all the veggies. It held at 33f against an ambient temp of 23 last night. BBL

497 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:19:57am

Morning Lizardim. Supposed to be another mild day here in the wild north country. The sheriff has closed off vehicle access to the lake because the ice is so unstable. I wish the weather would just make up its mind already.

498 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:21:41am

re: #493 Look At My New Grandbaby!

The only thing is that a gefilte fish is kind of squishy, so maybe he should change his screen name to Gefiltef**k Racists With A Dreidel

First of all, it's not my phrase.
Second, I'm not a sadist ;)

499 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:29:17am

re: #498 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

First of all, it's not my phrase.
Second, I'm not a sadist ;)

Who made up that phrase?

500 Obdicut  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:29:57am

re: #487 Boy, You got a panty on your head.

There's no controversy, there's just people who want Starbucks to change their policy. Unless you believe in the absolute right of a person to carry a weapon into a privately-owned business, then it's just between Starbucks and their customers.

And Hannibal was great, but also fucked up a lot.

501 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:33:46am

re: #499 Look At My New Grandbaby!

Who made up that phrase?

Some conservative blogger in response to "Paleopat" AKA Patrick/Chuck Adkins. I don't remember the name, but am sure it's googlable.

502 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:34:40am

re: #499 Look At My New Grandbaby!

Who made up that phrase?

Here it is:

[Link: www.google.com...]

503 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:36:07am

re: #502 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

Here it is:

[Link: www.google.com...]

I'm at work, is that SFW?

504 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:37:26am

re: #503 Look At My New Grandbaby!

I'm at work, is that SFW?

There's "dreidelfuck" as part of the google search, but otherwise you will just see the results.

505 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:38:06am

re: #503 Look At My New Grandbaby!

Are you allowed to use Tor at work?

506 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:43:06am

I read (all?) most of the gun-ban posts in this thread this morning. Thought I'd do some research and answer a couple of hanging questions.

Why Starbucks? Luck of the draw. The organization is small (less than $25,000 income or assets according to their most recent form 990). They wrote to several Big Name companies that are at least superficially liberal, or which have the stereotype of mostly liberal customers. They asked all of them to ban CCW. All said no.

Why at all? a) They want gun ownership to be significantly restricted. b) Because they, or at least the named members, have all lost someone to a shooting incident and think if gun carrying is reduced there will be fewer such deaths in the future.

In both cases above, they're following the path demonstrated by MADD (Mothers against Drunk Driving), which has been somewhat successful (though not as successful as they might wish). Will it work? dunno. The main objective at this point is attention. While the counterdemonstration will probably prevent Starbucks from agreeing, it increases the organization's visibility. Either result is, at this time, a win for the National Gun Victim's (sic) Action Council.

507 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:44:30am

re: #505 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

Are you allowed to use Tor at work?

I am stuck using IE8, does that answer your question? I was using Firefox and the security admin requested that I should remove it because it's not "approved" software.

508 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:48:05am

re: #507 Look At My New Grandbaby!

I am stuck using IE8, does that answer your question? I was using Firefox and the security admin requested that I should remove it because it's not "approved" software.

Wait, what? I'm in a bit of disbelief here; a SECURITY admin told you to stop using Firefox and switch to IE?

That guy/girl needs to go.

509 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:48:44am

re: #508 thedopefishlives

Wait, what? I'm in a bit of disbelief here; a SECURITY admin told you to stop using Firefox and switch to IE?

That guy/girl needs to go.

I know, isn't that Teh Suck?

510 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:48:49am

re: #507 Look At My New Grandbaby!

I am stuck using IE8, does that answer your question? I was using Firefox and the security admin requested that I should remove it because it's not "approved" software.

Ya, that sucks. Are you allowed USB drives? Because you can use Tor bundle without installation.

511 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:49:39am
512 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:50:22am

re: #508 thedopefishlives

Wait, what? I'm in a bit of disbelief here; a SECURITY admin told you to stop using Firefox and switch to IE?

That guy/girl needs to go.

At least it's not IE6 *shudder*

513 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:51:01am

re: #509 Look At My New Grandbaby!

I know, isn't that Teh Suck?

Not just Teh Suck, it's also stupid. I would trust pretty much any browser in the market over IE as far as security concerns go. I understand the concept of "approved" software and all, but seriously, Internet Exploder has a long and storied history of being the weakest link.

514 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:52:12am

re: #512 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

At least it's not IE6 *shudder*

I kid you not, the IT department here at the company I'm contracted to was using IE6 up until last year. They offered an "option" of a Firefox install... version 3.5.

515 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:54:15am

re: #513 thedopefishlives

Not just Teh Suck, it's also stupid. I would trust pretty much any browser in the market over IE as far as security concerns go. I understand the concept of "approved" software and all, but seriously, Internet Exploder has a long and storied history of being the weakest link.

You know what I hate the most about IE8? You can't use Adblock! That means if I go to a site like Huffpo, I have to see all those horrible "weird trick" scam ads!

Who clicks on this shit? They all use the same ad copy, it's all the same scam. FTC shuts one down, and 100 more take its place USING THE SAME FRICKEN KEYWORDS.

I HATE THEM and I'm not even a Dermatologist.

516 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:57:38am

re: #513 thedopefishlives

Not just Teh Suck, it's also stupid. I would trust pretty much any browser in the market over IE as far as security concerns go. I understand the concept of "approved" software and all, but seriously, Internet Exploder has a long and storied history of being the weakest link.

Actually, while past versions of IE have had (and earned) the weakest link rep, I've been fairly impressed with IE8.

In addition, there are some programs your company may be using that work best (or even only) with IE8.

Finally, by insisting everyone within the company use IE8 for work, the company knows that any web-based material will show consistently for everyone and doesn't have to do the extra hours of ensuring multi-browser compatibility.

517 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:58:55am

re: #516 kirkspencer

Actually, while past versions of IE have had (and earned) the weakest link rep, I've been fairly impressed with IE8.

In addition, there are some programs your company may be using that work best (or even only) with IE8.

Finally, by insisting everyone within the company use IE8 for work, the company knows that any web-based material will show consistently for everyone and doesn't have to do the extra hours of ensuring multi-browser compatibility.

Like I said, I understand the idea of having an approved browser. And I agree that IE8 is light-years ahead of *shudder* IE6 or the marginally-improved IE7. I still don't trust it and I probably never will. Internet Explorer being a core integrated feature of the Windows operating system is just asking for trouble.

518 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:59:59am

Real men use browsers homemade with VB.

519 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:01:04am

re: #518 Varek Raith

Real men use browsers homemade with VB.

You real man?

520 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:01:38am

re: #518 Varek Raith

Real men use browsers homemade with VB.

For our data communications class, we had to write a client and server for any one of four protocols: HTTP, FTP, SMTP, or IRC. I only wish the instructor had actually tried to attack them. I can imagine the hilarity that would ensue.

521 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:01:54am

re: #519 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

You real man?

Negative.

522 Obdicut  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:14:42am

re: #521 Varek Raith

Negative.

Meat popsicle?

524 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:23:42am

re: #521 Varek Raith

Negative.

Why you no real man? You no like sport?

//

525 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:25:32am
526 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:27:25am

re: #525 Gus

Glom.

Image: cpac-daytwo-27.jpg

I think I threw up a little in my mouth.

527 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:28:08am

re: #526 thedopefishlives

I think I threw up a little in my mouth.

I almost did that before... no wait that was because of the whisky.

528 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:28:26am

re: #525 Gus

Glom.

Image: cpac-daytwo-27.jpg

Why did they wrap themselves in the Soviet flag?

529 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:29:05am

re: #528 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

Why did they wrap themselves in the Soviet flag?

That was my first thought. Then I figured it was their moms' shawls. Or something.

530 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:32:11am

re: #528 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

Why did they wrap themselves in the Soviet flag?

I have a page up with their web manifesto.

531 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:32:20am

re: #528 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

Why did they wrap themselves in the Soviet flag?

It was the only thing they had lying around the basement to warm themselves with.

532 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:33:54am

re: #530 Decatur Deb

I have a page up with their web manifesto.

Yeah. They're an odd bunch.

533 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:35:01am

Lincolnshire Poacher, did you see Shropshire Slasher around? //

534 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:37:38am

Crack is whack.

535 darthstar  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:37:44am

re: #102 Charles Johnson

Things I've learned from Twitter tonight: Jim Hoft is a Taylor Swift fan.

I'm sure he's just another freakish stalker and not an actual fan...in other words, you probably don't want to see the shrine in his basement.

536 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:37:54am

re: #533 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

Lincolnshire Poacher, did you see Shropshire Slasher around? //

I spied him heading for your house.

537 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:39:13am

re: #534 Gus

Crack is whack.

[Link: andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com...]

538 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:39:53am

re: #536 The Lincolnshire Poacher

I spied him heading for your house.

Don't forget the Chianti and the surgical saw.

539 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:40:01am

re: #537 Gus

[Link: andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com...]

I'm not sure if I want to sully my computer by clicking it.

540 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:41:06am

Morning all!

How goes it?

541 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:42:57am

re: #540 ggt

Terror Attacks on Two Isreali Embassies thus far.

542 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:48:35am

It's budget week. Or the beginning therein.

Good times.

543 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:49:32am

re: #400 goddamnedfrank

I made the mistake of buying a membership to the 2nd Amendment Foundation last year. There's a local kitchen table FFL here that gives a hefty discount on his fee to receive firearms from out of state if you have a membership to a gun rights organization and I thought what the hell. Now I get a hefty dose of crackpot right wing propaganda at least once a week, from either them, the NRA or some other goofball org wanting me to be very, very afraid that President Obama is going to confiscate mah shootin' irons. So fucking lame.

While I agree with your statement about the propaganda, the administration isn't helping the situation too much.

544 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:50:23am
545 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:53:26am

re: #534 Gus

Crack is whack.

Marijuana is "there, you wanna?"...

546 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:53:47am

re: #472 palomino

Sure, there are lots of jobs where you might be required to carry. I'm just trying to think of why a sane civilian would think to himself, "I'm going to Starbucks, better lock and load!"

Ever been to Detroit?

547 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:54:37am

re: #544 Gus

The end of the world is neigh!

Valentine's Day 'wedding' for ram and deer at China zoo

So... gonna make a "Damn!"

548 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:56:33am

May make a page, but here's a drive-by bit of news that may interest a few. DoD is making more positions open to women.

The "co-location" rule is being eliminated, and some battalion level positions in direct combat ground units (in already authorized specialties) are being authorized.

The first only affects enlisted Army personnel. The latter affects enlisted and officers in the army, navy, and marine corps.

DoD News release.
DoD Full Report.

549 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:56:49am

So, I finally got to sit down at the computer with my first cuppa and the dogs wanted to go out.

Now I can hear Brat Puppy in the other room destroying something that could be a soft toy or a pillow cushion.

I haven't had 2 sips of coffee yet.

550 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:57:30am

re: #541 ProGunLiberal

Terror Attacks on Two Isreali Embassies thus far.

What countries?

551 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:58:54am
552 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:02:14am
553 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:02:43am

Hezbollah has always dabbled with the idea of international terrorism but I think this is a new step for them. It also greatly complicates things with Lebanon because they are part of the government there. Not good.

554 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:06:13am

Gather the war council! We are at war.

//

555 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:07:45am

re: #543 ggt

While I agree with your statement about the propaganda, the administration isn't helping the situation too much.

It's a conspiracy, I tells you. Through Soros-controlled banking fronts, SEIU has secretly invested its retirement and political slush funds in companies that make and import scary black guns. On cue, their patron, Obama, has only to mumble a few words about "assault weapons ban" and there is a huge consumer run on the guns and their various accessories. Sales, prices, and stock values skyrocket, at which point SEIU cashes out and pays Soros his commission, with plenty left over for Obama's re-election. Gullible consumers are left holding the bag, but they're mostly Republicans anyway.

556 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:08:40am

re: #555 The Lincolnshire Poacher

It's a conspiracy, I tells you. Through Soros-controlled banking fronts, SEIU has secretly invested its retirement and political slush funds in companies that make and import scary black guns. On cue, their patron, Obama, has only to mumble a few words about "assault weapons ban" and there is a huge consumer run on the guns and their various accessories. Sales, prices, and stock values skyrocket, at which point SEIU cashes out and pays Soros his commission, with plenty left over for Obama's re-election. Gullible consumers are left holding the bag, but they're mostly Republicans anyway.

I know, first they say they want an inch then before you know it, they have a mile. . . .

:0

557 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:10:59am

Good morning lizards!

What did I miss this weekend?

558 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:11:35am

re: #556 ggt

I know, first they say they want an inch then before you know it, they have a mile. . . .

:0

They can have our guns when they pry some cold, hard cash out of their fingers and hand it over......

559 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:12:26am

re: #557 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

What did I miss this weekend?

Me.
/

560 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:16:27am

re: #557 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

What did I miss this weekend?

I'm guessing you missed high speed-internet.

561 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:17:13am

re: #560 Long Nics are Looonnng

I'm guessing you missed high speed-internet.

Yes. Dial-up sucks.

562 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:20:20am
563 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:20:36am

re: #559 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

Me.
/

Yes, but my aim is improving./

564 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:20:48am

I saw videos this morning in the news of Greece. What a mess.

Greeks clean up after 45 buildings burnt

Firefighters have been dousing smouldering buildings and clean-up crews are sweeping rubble from the streets of central Athens after a night of rioting.

At least 45 buildings were burnt on Sunday night, including one of the capital's oldest restored cinemas. Dozens of stores and cafes were smashed and looted.

The rioting began on Sunday afternoon, ahead of a historic vote in parliament on yet more austerity measures. MPs approved the bill by 199 votes to 74, to the relief of investors who pushed the Athens stock index up 5 per cent on Monday.

The stench of tear gas still hung in the air on Monday morning, choking passers-by. More than 120 people were hurt in the rioting, which also broke out in other Greek cities.

Authorities said 68 police needed medical care after being injured by petrol bombs, rocks and other objects hurled at them. At least 70 protesters were hospitalised.

Police arrested at least 67 people. In several cases they had to escort fire crews to burning buildings after protesters prevented access.

565 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:21:14am

Oh, I wish I was in the land of cotton
Old time they are not forgotten
Look away, look away
Look away, Dixie Land

Derp

566 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:22:48am

re: #564 NJDhockeyfan

I saw videos this morning in the news of Greece. What a mess.

Greeks clean up after 45 buildings burnt

I really don't understand. Why riot?

567 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:22:58am

re: #551 Killgore Trout

Israel says bombs target embassies in India, Georgia

An interesting observation: both attacks were sticky-bomb car attacks.

Which just happens to be what someone, usually alleged to be Israel, was using on Iranian scientists.

So while I'm more supportive of Israel than Iran, the moral high ground on which they stand is dwarfed by anthills.

568 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:23:41am

re: #567 kirkspencer

An interesting observation: both attacks were sticky-bomb car attacks.

Which just happens to be what someone, usually alleged to be Israel, was using on Iranian scientists.

So while I'm more supportive of Israel than Iran, the moral high ground on which they stand is dwarfed by anthills.

Attack!

//

569 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:23:51am

re: #565 Gus

Oh, I wish I was in the land of cotton
Old time they are not forgotten
Look away, look away
Look away, Dixie Land

Derp

Elvis!

570 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:25:18am

re: #564 NJDhockeyfan

I saw videos this morning in the news of Greece. What a mess.

Greeks clean up after 45 buildings burnt

Is this a Mediterranean Male thing?

571 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:26:49am

re: #570 ggt

Is this a Mediterranean Male thing?

They had a seriously lethal Left/Right civil war a generation ago. Old times die hard.

572 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:26:52am

re: #563 thedopefishlives

Yes, but my aim is improving./

573 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:27:22am

re: #570 ggt

Is this a Mediterranean Male thing?

If you think Murikans won't tear some shit up....

(Well, you know they will)

574 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:30:57am
575 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:32:01am

re: #567 kirkspencer

An interesting observation: both attacks were sticky-bomb car attacks.

Which just happens to be what someone, usually alleged to be Israel, was using on Iranian scientists.

So while I'm more supportive of Israel than Iran, the moral high ground on which they stand is dwarfed by anthills.

Not really. Israel killed a scientist in Iran who was working on a nuclear bomb for military purposes. The Israeli diplomat in India was a civilian and probably just randomly selected as a target of opportunity.

576 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:32:12am

re: #574 Varek Raith

Business Groups Shut Down Anti-Islamic Bill In Virginia

Haha!

Or, alternatively, they could simply abandon their anti-Islamic crusade altogether, and devote their attention solving problems that actually exist

My sentiments exactly.

577 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:34:18am

re: #573 Long Nics are Looonnng

If you think Murikans won't tear some shit up...

(Well, you know they will)

To celebrate a World Series win.

578 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:35:03am

I'm outta here.

Have a great day all!

579 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:37:20am

re: #575 Killgore Trout

The attacks coincide with the 4th anniversary of the death of Hizbullah leader Imad Mughniyeh (in a bombing that is invariably linked to Israel). So, it isn't a stretch to think that this was the work of Iran, or Hizbullah, or a proxy working on their behalf.

It's a way to show Israel that they're not beyond using any and all tactics to go after Israelis abroad.

It's also not the first terror attack against Israelis/Jews in India; the Mumbai attacks included an element that specifically targeted Jews at the Chabad House.

Still, the Israelis diplomatic corps have been alerted to the possibility of attacks coinciding with the Mughniyeh anniversary, which is probably why the attack was thwarted in Georgia. More here.

580 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:37:45am

Think I need a new heater. Spring will be a much better alternative though.

581 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:38:00am

FEMEN v. Gazprom (warning, if you need one for boobs):

[Link: femen.livejournal.com...]

582 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:38:53am

re: #577 Decatur Deb

To celebrate a World Series win.

Oh, the reasons are many...

Sun coming up? Sun going down? World Series Win? World Series loss? Hunger? Sated? Free stuff? Expensive stuff? Cheap stuff?

583 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:39:07am

re: #575 Killgore Trout

Not really. Israel killed a scientist in Iran who was working on a nuclear bomb for military purposes. The Israeli diplomat in India was a civilian and probably just randomly selected as a target of opportunity.

So sticky bomb == sticky bomb equivalence doesn't exist. Gotcha.

584 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:41:14am

Remote control could have been used to trigger car blast: police

Gupta said the woman from Israeli Embassy, who sustained injuries in the blast, was stable.
...
"Talyesshoba (42), the wife of Israeli Defence Attache, was on her way to pick up her two children from American Embassy school when the incident took place," he said.

According to the version provided by one of the eye-witnesses who was injured, Gupta said a motorcyclist stuck something on the rear of the the car and after that there was fire in the car.

The target of the attack was a diplomat's wife on the way to pick up her children. Hardly the moral equivalent of a scientist working on a nuclear weapon.

585 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:42:24am

re: #570 ggt

Is this a Mediterranean Male thing?

Some. And some of it is monstrous unemployment that's perceived as and possibly is being further increased by demands of foreign controllers.

I've seen some back-of-the-envelope analyses that compare what's happening in Greece (and to a lesser extent all the eurozone peripherals) to the effects of the Treaty of Versailles on Germany. Not sure if that'll stand to a full analysis, but there's enough similarity to make it worth me taking time to look.

586 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:42:29am

re: #583 kirkspencer

So sticky bomb == sticky bomb equivalence doesn't exist. Gotcha.

No moral equivalence. The method may be similar but the targets are completely different.

587 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:42:36am

Just saw an AARP insurance commercial.

They actually said, "Save up to thousands of dollars per year".

How on earth can you put that in a commercial?

588 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:45:52am

re: #581 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

FEMEN v. Gazprom (warning, if you need one for boobs):

[Link: femen.livejournal.com...]

Image: TVWATCH4-popup.jpg

589 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:45:56am

re: #583 kirkspencer

The messages may be the same (stop doing what you're doing), but the choice of targets is different. In the case of those targeting Iranian scientists and officials, the targets are chosen to stop Iran's nuclear program. In the case of today's attacks against Israeli diplomats, the targets were chosen because they're Israeli diplomats.

Now, everyone believes that Israel is behind the attacks on Iran's nuclear scientists, Imad Mugniyeh, and even the Stuxnet attacks against Iran's nuclear enrichment program, but there's no actual proof of that. There's just lots of circumstantial evidence pointing in that direction. Israel has an interest in seeing the nuclear program halted and Hizbullah terror masters killed, but they're not the only ones. The US and Saudis also have interests in seeing the nuclear program slowed.

Israel for its part is blaming Iran for the attacks on its diplomats, and that's probably the strongest indication that they were behind the other attacks - they recognize the tit-for-tat nature of the ongoing conflict against Israel and Israel's efforts to maintain its security. Expect to see more tit-for-tat attacks along these lines. Not enough to rise to the level of open warfare, but just enough to keep markets roiled and people on their toes.

590 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:46:08am

re: #587 Long Nics are Looonnng

Just saw an AARP insurance commercial.

They actually said, "Save up to thousands of dollars per year".

How on earth can you put that in a commercial?

That may be on the high end but it's not unreasonable. I looked at the pricing schedule from my insurance company. I pay about $500 for my insurance. Once you hit 65 it costs somewhere around $800-900 a month to by your own insurance. It's insane.

591 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:47:03am

Deja vu.

SNAFU

Yawn.

592 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:47:53am
593 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:47:55am

Can't we all just get along?

*gunshot*

Apparently not.

594 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:48:18am

re: #591 Gus

Deja vu.

SNAFU

Yawn.

Gulf War 3, coming soon to a reality near you!

595 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:48:25am

re: #590 Killgore Trout

Oh, I'm sure you can save money and all that.

But how do you put, "Save up to thousands of dollars per year".

Sounds like an infomercial, "If you're anything like me, you probably spend fifty thousand dollars a year on paper towels..."

596 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:49:01am

re: #594 Varek Raith

Gulf War 3, coming soon to a reality near you!

Don't worry. After THAT war we'll all live happily ever after.

Again.

Zzzzzzzz.

It's. Not. Working.

597 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:50:08am

re: #586 Killgore Trout

No moral equivalence. The method may be similar but the targets are completely different.

See, I've this problem with that. It's trending to the same sort of reasoning that says it's ok to use waterboarding and other torture because the victims are terrorists.

If the sticky-bomb attack is wrong, it's wrong.

598 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:51:39am

There was probably a second sticky bomber.

//

599 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:52:10am

re: #597 kirkspencer

See, I've this problem with that. It's trending to the same sort of reasoning that says it's ok to use waterboarding and other torture because the victims are terrorists.

If the sticky-bomb attack is wrong, it's wrong.

It is wrong. The question is that of a lesser evil.

600 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:52:35am

re: #598 Gus

On the grassy knoll? /

601 Obdicut  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:52:39am

xre: #597 kirkspencer

See, I've this problem with that. It's trending to the same sort of reasoning that says it's ok to use waterboarding and other torture because the victims are terrorists.

If the sticky-bomb attack is wrong, it's wrong.

The method of attack really doesn't matter much. It's nothing like waterboarding. Would it be better if the guy just got shot in the face?

602 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:53:17am

Yep, North Korea is kicking ass with its' nuclear arsenal

Wait...
No they aren't.

603 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:53:38am

Iran preparing 'suicide boats' in case of Strait of Hormuz conflict, U.S. official says

Iran has built up its naval forces in the Gulf and prepared boats that could be used in suicide attacks, but the U.S. Navy can prevent it from blocking the Strait of Hormuz, the commander of U.S. naval forces in the region said on Sunday.

Iran has made a series of threats in recent weeks to disrupt shipping in the Gulf or strike U.S. forces in retaliation if its oil trade is shut down by sanctions, or if its disputed nuclear program comes under attack.

"They have increased the number of submarines ... they increased the number of fast attack craft," Vice Admiral Mark Fox told reporters. "Some of the small boats have been outfitted with a large warhead that could be used as a suicide explosive device. The Iranians have a large mine inventory."

604 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:54:03am

re: #598 Gus

There was probably a second sticky bomber.

//

Even if I thought that? I wouldn't "Post-It (tm)".

605 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:55:01am

re: #603 NJDhockeyfan

More Iranian sailors for us to fish out of the water.

606 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:55:20am

re: #600 lawhawk

On the grassy knoll? /

Yep. Otherwise, I'll wait for the full report. Second guessing all of this reminds me of a bunch of guys at Airliners dot net trying to come up with a cause of the latest crash. It's a waste of time and energy. And, since we can't very well effect any change it just adds to ones frustrations. The USA has a country to run here. Bad enough we've been diverted into this contraception, gay marriage, abortion bullshit by the GOP. The GOP who by the way will take advantage of today's events and more or less blame Obama for everything per usual.

SNAFU

607 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:57:17am

re: #602 Varek Raith

Yep, North Korea is kicking ass with its' nuclear arsenal

Wait...
No they aren't.

But the Northern Korean leadership is not rabid and foaming at the mouth! Unlike Iranian leaders, they're rational actors!/

608 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:59:26am

re: #607 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish

But the Northern Korean leadership is not rabid and foaming at the mouth! Unlike Iranian leaders, they're rational actors!/

Fuck you Hans Brix!

609 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:00:29am

re: #608 Varek Raith

Fuck you Hans Brix!

I'm so ronery.

610 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:00:35am

re: #603 NJDhockeyfan

Iran preparing 'suicide boats' in case of Strait of Hormuz conflict, U.S. official says

Oh, no, I'm quaking in my baby seal patent leather boots.

611 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:01:13am

re: #610 thedopefishlives

Oh, no, I'm quaking in my baby seal patent leather boots.

Mmmmm. Sexy. Patent leather always shines up!

//

612 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:02:30am
613 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:03:13am

re: #610 thedopefishlives

Oh, no, I'm quaking in my baby seal patent leather boots.

The "Not So Smart" Bomb?

614 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:03:53am

re: #612 Gus

And so it begins!

Watch Live: Obama Speaks On 2013 Budget

Alternate site:

[Link: www.whitehouse.gov...]

615 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:06:03am

Oh yeah. Dinnerjacket will be making a speech too. Or did he already?

616 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:07:25am

Pagers?

//

617 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:07:31am

I'm sorry, GOP. I refuse to live in fear of creeping sharia, or of godless hoodlums having consequence-free sex, or of illegal immigrants taking our jorbs, or of North Korea, or of Iran, or of terrorist bastards. I'm an American, goddamnit, and that means I shouldn't have to be afraid of anything, inside our borders or out. I know that makes me a Big Bad Librul (tm), but I don't care. OOGA BOOGA.

618 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:08:40am

Sure got quiet in there.

619 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:09:50am

Norther Virginia Community College

[Link: livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

620 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:10:09am

That's not "real Virginia."

//

621 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:10:45am

re: #619 Gus

Norther Virginia Community College

[Link: livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

Hey, I went there.

622 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:11:19am

re: #621 Varek Raith

Hey, I went there.

That's where Obama's going to speak about budget.

And he's up.

623 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:11:40am

re: #620 Gus

That's not "real Virginia."

//

Northern Korean Virginia!

624 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:12:50am

re: #617 thedopefishlives

Sorry for the rant, I just get so sick of the way everybody tries to push the latest scare like it's something we should be terrified of. I'm not afraid to die, and if my time comes, my time comes. Until such time, I'm going to have fun and completely NOT FUCKING CARE about the next potential world-ends-tomorrow scenario. Let's do something about the problems we do have (like global warming), and for everything else, well, isn't that what we pay our diplomats and government representatives for?

625 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:12:54am

re: #623 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR

Northern Korean Virginia!

Marxist-Crony-Capitalists!

626 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:13:23am

re: #625 Gus

Marxist-Crony-Capitalists!

Statist-Nazi-Anarchists!

627 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:13:27am

re: #617 thedopefishlives

I'm sorry, GOP. I refuse to live in fear of creeping sharia, or of godless hoodlums having consequence-free sex, or of illegal immigrants taking our jorbs, or of North Korea, or of Iran, or of terrorist bastards. I'm an American, goddamnit, and that means I shouldn't have to be afraid of anything, inside our borders or out. I know that makes me a Big Bad Librul (tm), but I don't care. OOGA BOOGA.

Iran is not really a conservative-liberal issue. It is a real world problem and Obama is probably going to have to make decision how to handle this, possibly within the next year.

628 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:13:30am

He's at the Annandale campus.

629 BongCrodny  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:13:34am

re: #623 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR

Northern Korean Virginia!

Yankee Virginia!

630 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:13:58am

re: #445 palomino

And MY point is that a one-day boycott is nothing to get worked up over. It's a pretty mild form of democratic protest. It's hardly the "nastiness" that you described above.

Seriously. Perspective, pls.

Although I think it's hiliarious what the rwnj right considers outrage. They should have to live for a day as a dhimmi'd second-classer under their preferred states rights regimes, that'll give them something to bellyache about.

631 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:15:04am

I heard you must sacrifice a Virginian at Walpurgis Nacht, and Stan grants you three wishes.

632 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:15:12am

re: #629 BongCrodny

Yankee Virginia!

Isn't that where they build Migs?

//

633 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:16:59am

re: #632 Gus

Isn't that where they build Migs?

//

Sukhois.

634 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:17:24am

re: #624 thedopefishlives

Sorry for the rant, I just get so sick of the way everybody tries to push the latest scare like it's something we should be terrified of. I'm not afraid to die, and if my time comes, my time comes. Until such time, I'm going to have fun and completely NOT FUCKING CARE about the next potential world-ends-tomorrow scenario.

Aww, now where's the fun in that?

The rightwing is defined almost solely by their self-loathing fear of all others. Why anyone chooses to live like that when they don't have to is beyond me, but hey, better them than me.

635 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:17:28am

No drama!

636 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:18:08am

re: #635 Gus

No drama!

Way!.. Uh I mean Drama!

637 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:18:13am

re: #635 Gus

No drama!

That'll be tough. I mean, the Speaker is a crying drama queen.

638 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:18:52am

re: #634 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Aww, now where's the fun in that?

The rightwing is defined almost solely by their self-loathing fear of all others. Why anyone chooses to live like that when they don't have to is beyond me, but hey, better them than me.

I don't get it either. There's so much more to life than cowering in a corner, afraid that everyone and everything is out to get you.

639 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:22:31am

All the wingers just got brain freeze. Obama's now talking about education and TEACHERS!!11ty

640 allegro  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:24:33am

re: #634 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Aww, now where's the fun in that?

The rightwing is defined almost solely by their self-loathing fear of all others. Why anyone chooses to live like that when they don't have to is beyond me, but hey, better them than me.

Interesting the way you worded that. It reminded me of Marcotte's post this morning...

While Romney basically can't lose, barring some kind of weird delegate wrangling that I suppose is always possible but seems unlikely, the knocks he's taking are leaving him in poor fighting condition to take on the general election against Obama. A huge part of the problem is that Romney is just a shitty candidate, something that got forgotten when he was looking good next to the slate of cranks and kooks that challenged him in the primary. But I think a larger part of the problem is that hating Romney has become a stand-in for conservative self-loathing and the current right wing mania for purity.

That was one of those comments that made me go "Hmmm." There's a lot packed into that bolded sentence.

641 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:25:50am

"Can't find American workers with the right skills"

Yeah, companies can't find American workers with the right skills WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR CHINESE WAGES.

642 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:28:55am

Dem lawmaker: Obama budget is a 'nervous breakdown on paper'

Congressional Black Caucus Chairman Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) expressed concern President Obama's budget would go too far to rein in government spending in the midst of an economic recovery, calling the forthcoming proposal a 'nervous breakdown on paper.'

"This budget is a nervous breakdown on paper," said Cleaver during an interview on CNN's Starting Point Monday morning. "We're still in a recession, we're still struggling. Unemployment is still too high," he said.

643 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:29:51am

Btw, I'd like to give another shout-out to the awesome Charles: Sometime between Friday and today, the LGF Spy now allows you to mouse over the display name and reveal the lizard beneath the mask. Thank you for working so hard to make all these nifty features. The LGF Blog Engine is truly a technical marvel.

644 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:31:35am

re: #643 thedopefishlives

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

:P

645 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:31:54am

re: #642 NJDhockeyfan

Dem lawmaker: Obama budget is a 'nervous breakdown on paper'

Zzzzzzz.

During the course of the Democratic Presidential Primary, Cleaver endorsed Hillary Rodham Clinton.[2] Cleaver claimed that African American superdelegates who supported Clinton were subjected to harassment, threatened with primary opponents and called “Uncle Tom.” He said they were told, “You’re not black if you’re not supporting Barack Obama. … It's ugly.”[3] On March 30, 2008, he was interviewed on The Sunday Edition on CBC Radio and said he realized he was on the losing team: "Even though I don't expect the Kansas City Chiefs to beat the Indianapolis Colts, I cheer for the Kansas City Chiefs." [4] According to BlackMissouri.com.,[5] U.S. Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois asked Cleaver, “If it comes down to the last day and you’re the only superdelegate? … Do you want to go down in history as the one to prevent a black from winning the White House?" “I told him I’d think about it," Cleaver explained. Cleaver said during the course of the primary he'd be shocked if Obama wasn't the next President but made it clear he still supported Clinton until she suspended her bid.

646 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:32:34am

re: #642 NJDhockeyfan

Dem lawmaker: Obama budget is a 'nervous breakdown on paper'

I can't get too excited about Obama's budget proposal. It's not going to pass anyways. Republicans will force a stalemate until the very last moment and then pass a bare minimum, stop gap measure at the last second. Nothing's going to change in the foreseeable future.

647 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:33:19am

re: #646 Killgore Trout

I can't get too excited about Obama's budget proposal. It's not going to pass anyways. Republicans will force a stalemate until the very last moment and then pass a bare minimum, stop gap measure at the last second. Nothing's going to change in the foreseeable future.

Occupy Wall Street!

648 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:35:26am

re: #647 Gus

Occupy Wall Street!

They'll be back in the spring. They'll probably revert to an antiwar movement. I don't think that helps anybody aside from the Iranian regime.

649 RogueOne  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:35:26am

re: #646 Killgore Trout

Reid said a couple weeks ago that he's not going to bring a budget up this year.

Reid: This year's budget is done
[Link: thehill.com...]

650 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:35:53am

re: #648 Killgore Trout

They'll be back in the spring. They'll probably revert to an antiwar movement. I don't think that helps anybody aside from the Iranian regime.

So have you decided to vote for Santorum or Romney?

651 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:37:31am

re: #649 RogueOne

Reid said a couple weeks ago that he's not going to bring a budget up this year.

Reid: This year's budget is done
[Link: thehill.com...]

Yeah, it seems like a waste of time. Everybody knows how it's going to turn out.

652 Lidane  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:38:03am

*sigh*

Who Is Paul McCartney?!

Ugh. Morons. Google and Wikipedia exist for a reason.

653 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:38:38am

MWW Lite

654 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:39:03am

Hey Stanley. You do know who the Speaker is right?

655 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:39:12am

re: #650 Gus

So have you decided to vote for Santorum or Romney?

I'll consider Mitt but it's doubtful I'll vote for him. I think Obama's doing a fine job and I don't see Mitt doing any better.

656 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:39:47am

re: #652 Lidane

*sigh*

Who Is Paul McCartney?!

Ugh. Morons. Google and Wikipedia exist for a reason.

WTF is google?!?!?!

657 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:40:12am

re: #656 Varek Raith

WTF is google?!?!?!

Altavista exists for a reason.

658 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:40:41am

re: #657 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR

Altavista exists for a reason.

Lycos or gtfo.

659 RogueOne  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:40:46am

re: #651 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it seems like a waste of time. Everybody knows how it's going to turn out.

I think you're right but:

1. He's legally required to submit a budget (I think) so he has to do it
2. It's a political document for the election campaign.

660 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:41:16am

re: #658 Varek Raith

Lycos or gtfo.

Only Rambler.

661 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:41:21am

I guess the Obama supporters are still sleeping.

662 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:42:02am

re: #661 Gus

I guess the Obama supporters are still sleeping.

RAH RAH!

/

663 RogueOne  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:42:05am

re: #661 Gus

I guess the Obama supporters are still sleeping.

Well....we know they aren't at work!////

664 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:42:12am

re: #659 RogueOne

I think you're right but:

1. He's legally required to submit a budget (I think) so he has to do it
2. It's a political document for the election campaign.

Agreed.

665 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:42:14am

Heh, like the GOP would ever, ever allow any budget Obama puts up to go for a vote.

666 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:42:58am

re: #660 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR

Only Rambler.

Dogpile.

667 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:43:12am

re: #665 Varek Raith

Heh, like the GOP would ever, ever allow any budget Obama puts up to go for a vote.

Yet it's Obama's fault. Right. I'm sure if Obama didn't bring up a budget that would satisfy the wingnuts and neocon pseudo-liberals.

668 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:43:20am

re: #666 thedopefishlives

Dogpile.

eww

669 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:43:43am

re: #652 Lidane


Thanks for 25 ladies who'd like to have Chris Brown beat them up, by the way. A terrible thing, that.

670 RogueOne  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:44:32am

re: #665 Varek Raith

Heh, like the GOP would ever, ever allow any budget Obama puts up to go for a vote.

How man dems in the senate? They only need 51:

Fact Checker:
Jack Lew’s misleading claim about the Senate’s failure to pass a budget resolution
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

(Spoiler Alert: 4 Pinocchios)

671 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:44:59am

re: #662 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR

RAH RAH!

/

I don't know. The bipolar nature is a little taxing at times.

672 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:46:05am

re: #671 Gus

I don't know. The bipolar nature is a little taxing at times.

Do you want Obama supporters to stand up to the KT menace? ;)

673 Lidane  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:46:19am

Cue the Shrieking Harpy:

[Link: hamptonroads.com...]

One bill, HB825 from Republican Del. Bob Marshall of Prince William County, would have prohibited judges and state administrators from using any legal code established outside the United States to make decisions. It was one of two proposals this year to address that issue.

Muslim advocates condemned the effort, calling it a thinly veiled attack on Shariah law, their religious tenets. Members of other religious communities joined in, including the Jewish Community Federation, saying the ban also would infringe on their rights, especially to settle certain family matters, such as wills and divorces, according to their faith.

Nonetheless, the House Courts of Justice Committee approved the bill 10-6 and sent it to the full House for consideration.

But when legislators started hearing from business groups concerned about how the proposal could affect their dealings abroad and foreign companies located here, they sent the bill back to committee.

674 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:47:12am

re: #659 RogueOne

I think you're right but:

1. He's legally required to submit a budget (I think) so he has to do it
2. It's a political document for the election campaign.

That's a pretty big "but" right there. He has to submit a budget. He can also use this budget that the GOP drama queens like Boehner will block and us it as a campaign strategy.

*Anyone that was listening will know that Obama said that we need to pass this budget without "drama."

675 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:48:34am

re: #674 Gus

That's a pretty big "but" right there. He has to submit a budget. He can also use this budget that the GOP drama queens like Boehner will block and us it as a campaign strategy.

*Anyone that was listening will know that Obama said that we need to pass this budget without "drama."

Be nice to my but, I'm sensitive about it.

676 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:49:17am

Do I smell a controversy? //

677 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:49:48am

re: #673 Lidane
Um.

One bill, HB825 from Republican Del. Bob Marshall of Prince William County, would have prohibited judges and state administrators from using any legal code established outside the United States to make decisions. It was one of two proposals this year to address that issue.

Muslim advocates condemned the effort, calling it a thinly veiled attack on Shariah law, their religious tenets. Members of other religious communities joined in, including the Jewish Community Federation, saying the ban also would infringe on their rights, especially to settle certain family matters, such as wills and divorces, according to their faith.

Nonetheless, the House Courts of Justice Committee approved the bill 10-6 and sent it to the full House for consideration.

But when legislators started hearing from business groups concerned about how the proposal could affect their dealings abroad and foreign companies located here, they sent the bill back to committee.

Doesn't say anything about private citizens using faith-based arbitration, just elected officials acting in government capacity.

678 Lidane  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:50:35am

LGF Irrelevance Watch: Charles gets quoted over at Balloon Juice --

Why We Fight

679 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:50:44am

re: #676 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR

Do I smell a controversy? //

I thought we already had a full moon.

//

680 RogueOne  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:51:23am

re: #674 Gus

I was only agreeing with Killgore that this is a waste of time but the president is required to submit it anyway.

681 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:52:23am

re: #676 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR

Do I smell a controversy? //

No, I just left the gas on the stove. FIRE IN THE HOLE!

682 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:52:43am

re: #679 Gus

I thought we already had a full moon.

//

Now, don't be cheeky!//

683 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:53:21am

re: #642 NJDhockeyfan

A budget is a compromise document to start with, and heading into an election year, it's a compromised document too. Not all that surprising that those on the left are finding things to complain about. Just as surely, the GOP will complain that it doesn't go far enough. The budget attempts to do lots of things for lots of groups, but as this Rep. shows, he's not going to please everyone.

The tax portion, which includes tax cuts for corporations and a hike on millionaires will be spun into incomprehensibility.

Yet, there's lots of good stuff in there if you're concerned about infrastructure improvement and jobs:

JUMPSTART JOB CREATION

More than $350 billion in short-term measures for job growth starting in 2012, including many planks of the American Jobs Act that we continue to call on Congress to enact plus some new job creation initiatives. They include:
Extension of the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance benefits for rest of 2012.

An upfront investment of $50 billion from the surface transportation reauthorization bill for roads, rails, and runways to create thousands of quality jobs in the short term.

Continuing to allow businesses to write-off the full amount of new investments.

$30 billion to modernize at least 35,000 schools and $30 billion to help states and localities retain and hire teachers and first responders.

Project Rebuild, a series of policies to help connect Americans looking for work in distressed communities with the work needed to re-purpose residential and commercial properties, creating jobs and stabilizing neighborhoods.

A new tax credit for this year focused on small businesses and that gives businesses that add jobs and wages a tax cut equal to 10 percent of wages added up to $500,000.

Investing in transportation is key, and I can think of at least a dozen projects in the NYC metro area that could use the funding (though that $50 billion could be sunk into one or two projects in NYC alone - such as a fully funded full-route 2d Avenue Subway to Hanover Square plus the Gateway Hudson Tunnel and/or 7 Line Extension to Secaucus). $50 billion could also repair/replace hundreds of deficient bridges across the country, improve rail corridors, and improve air traffic systems as well.

The tax credits add complexity, but would help small businesses if they have to show that they're keeping those workers employed.

I have my doubt about the school construction program. If that finds the light of day in the actual budget, I'd be surprised, but if the NJ example is any indication, the money will end up helping only a fraction of the schools that it claims to be able to help with the $30 billion.

Back in the early 2000s, New Jersey's School Construction Corporation (SCC) was supposed to upgrade, revamp, and build new schools around the state. The initial estimates for work done turned out to be a fraction of what the actual costs would be, so the number of schools were scaled back and yet the prices continued ballooning. In total, only a fraction of the schools that needed work got work done, and the SCC had to be replaced with another entity because of corruption and an inability to control costs. I fear the same thing on the national scale.

684 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:53:41am

re: #680 RogueOne

I was only agreeing with Killgore that this is a waste of time but the president is required to submit it anyway.

And I'm adding that it will help illustrate to the American people what a bunch of obstructionist assholes the Republican Party has become.

685 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:00:04am

Highest Syrian authorities complicit in killings - UN says

New York - The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights said Monday that the onslaught in Syria has continued with the complicity of government authorities 'at the highest level.'

Navi Pillay told a special session of the UN General Assembly in New York that crimes against humanity have been committed over the past 11 months of unrest. She said her office in Geneva had stopped counting the dead because of lack of access to Syria.

Pillay said more than 5,400 people had been killed by December and more than 10,000 people have been injured while an estimated 18,000 people have been detained.

686 RogueOne  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:01:33am

re: #684 Gus

And I'm adding that it will help illustrate to the American people what a bunch of obstructionist assholes the Republican Party has become.

Isn't it hard to argue that the repubs are obstructing the budget if the dems won't even bring one up for a vote?

Luckily (////), McConnell just wants to help:

McConnell to offer Obama's budget
[Link: www.politico.com...]

688 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:03:35am

re: #685 NJDhockeyfan

Highest Syrian authorities complicit in killings - UN says

I don't see any chance of UN peacekeepers on the ground. Nobody is going to volunteer troops and it would be a mess. NATO might give the rebels support and aircover but I'm not sure they're that interested in participating.

689 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:07:58am

re: #688 Killgore Trout

This time we have admitted Al Qaeda Iraq involvement with the rebels. What a mess.

690 RogueOne  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:13:05am

re: #688 Killgore Trout

I don't see any chance of UN peacekeepers on the ground. Nobody is going to volunteer troops and it would be a mess. NATO might give the rebels support and aircover but I'm not sure they're that interested in participating.

I don't know. If it's a joint Arab League/UN mission they'll probably have quite a few arab participants that would love to be on the ground helping the rebels, if only to stick a finger in Irans eye.

691 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:14:12am

re: #689 Daniel Ballard

This time we have admitted Al Qaeda Iraq involvement with the rebels. What a mess.

The whole Arab Spring is looking like a giant mess. The security situation in Egypt continues to deteriorate. There were more kidnappings and a tourist got killed this weekend. Libya doesn't look like it going to end up as a bastion of freedom and peace. It really looks like there are no good fixes for the region. It's either dictators which we can bribe into being peaceful or hives of terrorist activity. Not much realistic hope of something in between.

692 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:16:03am

The Arab Spring has just begun. Give it time. Don't listen to the naysayers that want to see a return to business as usual.

693 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:16:08am

re: #690 RogueOne

I don't know. If it's a joint Arab League/UN mission they'll probably have quite a few arab participants that would love to be on the ground helping the rebels, if only to stick a finger in Irans eye.

I suppose if Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan wanted to send troops they could make it happen.

694 RogueOne  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:17:16am

re: #691 Killgore Trout

There were a couple brutal videos that came out of Libya this last week. It's pretty ugly right now.

695 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:17:54am

Round and round and round it goes, where it stops nobody knows.

696 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:17:56am

The Bush doctrine. Hey! Where's Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld? And Cheney. I think I see him here somewhere.

697 RogueOne  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:18:10am

re: #693 Killgore Trout

Don't forget Saudi Arabia. They would love to see Assad get the boot.

698 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:19:40am

re: #697 RogueOne

Don't forget Saudi Arabia. They would love to see Assad get the boot.

I thought about the Suadis but they generally don't volunteer troops for stuff. Maybe a few token platoons but not much more than that. I don't know why that is.

699 Lidane  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:20:34am

Basset Hound Gets Texas High-School Diploma

What has your dog done lately? Sleep, eat and, if you’re lucky, bring you your slippers? Well, Molly the Basset Hound just earned her high-school diploma. Not obedience school, but an actual high-school diploma. It’s enough to make your shih tzu roll over and play dead.

But before your pup winds up in the doghouse, Houston’s KHOU.com reports that while the feat remains impressive, the Texas pup earned her credentials through a so-called diploma mill. A Texas law that prevents discrimination against home-schooled students is allegedly being used to make a quick buck on the backs of students looking for a shortcut to a diploma. For a few hundred dollars and the answers to some simple online questions, these predominantly online institutions bill themselves as private schools and issue a high-school diploma to seemingly anyone willing to pay. To test the limits of this, the investigative team at KHOU signed up their photographer’s dog, Molly.

700 RogueOne  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:21:08am

re: #692 Gus

The Arab Spring has just begun. Give it time. Don't listen to the naysayers that want to see a return to business as usual.

I still have hope but I wouldn't want to be in either Libya or Egypt right now.

Honestly I always thought there was a good chance these would end badly but throwing out their dictators was/is an important first step. When/If they have to do it again they'll remember what it took.

701 freetoken  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:21:59am

re: #692 Gus

The Arab Spring has just begun. Give it time. Don't listen to the naysayers that want to see a return to business as usual.

I for one do not believe we can foresee where all of this is heading, no matter how brilliant our analyses. Human societies have an element of chaos and sometimes the strangest things happen.

Our own society, as stable and relatively peaceful that it seems, only became that way after centuries of sectarian and nationalist European warfare, followed by a couple of centuries of colonialism which was brutal at times, followed by a revolutionary and then civil war (which set a benchmark for advanced technological brutality up to that time in history.)

702 BongCrodny  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:22:15am

DailyKos: Santorum takes big lead in Michigan

Santorum's net favorability: +44. Romney's? +10. Gingrich is -9 and Paul is -19.

Santorum with a +44 net favorability?

I know he's the latest flavor of the month, but +44?

What the heck do they see in this guy?

703 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:22:39am

re: #702 BongCrodny

DailyKos: Santorum takes big lead in Michigan

Santorum with a +44 net favorability?

I know he's the latest flavor of the month, but +44?

What the heck do they see in this guy?

Not Romney.

704 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:22:49am

[Link: www.thesun.co.uk...]

Witch-hunt has put us behind ex-Soviet states on Press freedom

THE Sun is not a "swamp" that needs draining.
Nor are those other great News International titles, The Times and The Sunday Times.

Yet in what would at any other time cause uproar in Parliament and among civil liberty and human rights campaigners, its journalists are being treated like members of an organised crime gang.

HALP! WE'RE BEING REPRESSED WAAAAH! WAAAAAAH!!!

705 Lidane  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:23:33am

re: #702 BongCrodny

What the heck do they see in this guy?

He's not Mitt Romney.

706 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:23:34am

Newsflash. Egypt is still under a military dictatorship.

707 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:23:42am

re: #704 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR

[Link: www.thesun.co.uk...]

Now with more iron!

708 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:24:44am

Man Convicted for Presidential Assassination Plot

An Uzbek man pleaded guilty on Friday for plotting to kill President Barack Obama, according a statement from the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Northern Alabama.

Ulugbek Kodirov, who was illegally living in Birmingham, Ala., admitted guilty on weapons and terrorist charges in the assassination plot, the statement reads.

Court evidence showed that Kodirov believed he was in a plot to kill the president for an Islamist militant group based in Uzbekistan, a landlocked Central Asian county, the statement says. He faces as many as 30 years in prison and a $750,000 fine after pleading guilty.

“Kodirov was apprehended during an undercover operation in which he was attempting to obtain weapons and explosives,” U.S. Attorney Joyce White Vance stated, adding that Muslim community members in Birmingham were “instrumental in helping law enforcement shut down this threat.”

Kodirov was arrested in July at a motel in Alabama after he obtained an automatic machine gun and four hand grenades from an undercover FBI agent.

709 aagcobb  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:26:10am

re: #702 BongCrodny

DailyKos: Santorum takes big lead in Michigan

Santorum with a +44 net favorability?

I know he's the latest flavor of the month, but +44?

What the heck do they see in this guy?

Themselves. Romney is an obvious fake (that "severe conservative" line at CPAC went over like a lead balloon), but Santorum really believes AGW is a marxist plot, gays are evil and the Flintstones is a documentary. Romney just can't fake sincerity, while Santorum is sincere.

710 RogueOne  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:26:12am

re: #702 BongCrodny

I'm having a really hard time buying that poll. PPP points out the dem/ind voters (who are allowed to vote in the repub primary)prefer santorum by a huge margin which inflates the santorum number but not by much.

I don't live in MI but I spend a lot of time there. I've seen Romney signs all over the western half of the state for 6 months now.

711 The Left  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:27:56am

re: #709 SantorumSurging

Themselves. Romney is an obvious fake (that "severe conservative" line at CPAC went over like a lead balloon), but Santorum really believes AGW is a marxist plot, gays are evil and the Flintstones is a documentary. Romney just can't fake sincerity, while Santorum is sincere.

Did you see the Krugman column about that line? I thought it was pretty good.

712 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:28:11am

I'm just glad that the State Department is on these things and not left to some guy on the internet with an opinion.

713 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:28:37am

re: #712 Gus

I'm just glad that the State Department is on these things and not left to some guy on the internet with an opinion.

We should totally bomb Canada.

714 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:28:40am

re: #712 Gus

I'm just glad that the State Department is on these things and not left to some guy on the internet with an opinion.

Democratic State Department.

715 aagcobb  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:28:56am

re: #711 Ms. MacIceweasel

Did you see the Krugman column about that line? I thought it was pretty good.

Yes; I agree the GOP is reaping what it has sowed.

716 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:28:57am

re: #713 Varek Raith

We should totally bomb Canada.

Promises, promises.

717 RogueOne  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:29:05am

re: #712 Gus

I'm just glad that the State Department is on these things and not left to some guy on the internet with an opinion.

I keep sending them my phone number but no one ever calls.

718 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:29:50am
719 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:30:22am

re: #718 Varek Raith

Blame Canada.

720 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:31:14am

re: #718 Varek Raith

[Video]

721 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:32:11am

Oooh, Canna-daaa...

722 RogueOne  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:32:43am

Last time I made fun of Canada I was in trouble for days....I'm telling on you guys.

723 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:33:34am

re: #722 RogueOne

Last time I made fun of Canada I was in trouble for days...I'm telling on you guys.

What was that all aboot?

724 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:34:19am
725 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:34:26am

re: #723 Look At My New Grandbaby!

What was that all aboot?

Ugg...

726 RogueOne  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:38:15am

I saw this story in a few places yesterday. If you haven't read it by now....:

Me, APD, and 'Babysitting While White,' Part Deux
[Link: gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com...]

A few years back Grits posed the question, "Is babysitting while white reasonable suspicion for police questioning?" after my granddaughter and I were detained and questioned at length in my neighborhood on suspicion of some nefarious deed (it was never quite clear what). In that incident, the police were pretty clear I was stopped solely because Ty, like her mother (who came to live with my wife and me when she was a child) is black, while I'm an almost stereotypical looking white Texas redneck. At the time, Grits was amazed that three squad cars were dispatched to question me for walking down the street with a child of a different race, detaining me for no good reason and scaring the bejeezus out of then-two-year old Ty.

727 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:40:32am

Emails Disclose Galloway’s Syrian Support

Recently disclosed emails demonstrate that one of the few public figures to stand by Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad during his brutal repression of anti-government protesters relied on Assad’s help for his signature project.

728 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:42:25am
729 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:47:44am

Haniyeh: No compromise, only armed resistance

Only arms and no compromise should be used in dealing with the "Zionist regime, the Iranian news agency ISNA quoted Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh as saying Monday.

The "Gun is our only response to Zionist regime [sic]. In time, we have come to understand that we can obtain our goals only through fighting and armed resistance and no compromise should be made with the enemy," Haniyeh said.

The "Path of resistance continues and if we make any compromise, it is for resistance and obtaining Palestinians' rights," he continued.

730 jaunte  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:50:34am

re: #726 RogueOne

That sounds familiar. My wife and son have been stopped by the Houston police several times for no apparent reason other than being different colors, in the same car.

731 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:50:53am

re: #729 NJDhockeyfan

Haniyeh: No compromise, only armed resistance

Water is wet.
Pope is Catholic
Bears shit in the woods.

732 jaunte  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:52:01am

Judicial benches in Texas left sitting empty

A Republican effort to stall President Barack Obama's judicial nominees in the Senate as a protest to the recess appointment of a consumer watchdog has left Texas with five vacancies on federal benches.

That could grow to as many as seven vacancies by the end of the year, with pending retirements. That's more than any other state except New York.

Senate Democrats and liberal groups are putting pressure on the state's two Republican U.S. senators, Kay Bailey Hutchison and John Cornyn to break with the Republican opposition and push for a vote on two Texas judicial nominees waiting confirmation.

733 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:53:46am

re: #726 RogueOne

Absurd.

White couples adopting/acquiring/collecting Black children while white is so common these days, it's a cliché. Not so for the color-reverse. If there were some kind of history of states, governments, and other institutions targeting whites as innately criminal, the point would make sense, but it doesn't.

734 prairiefire  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:54:10am

re: #730 jaunte

How annoying! I have only been asked by people what country I got my children from. I say "Myloins."

735 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:54:55am

re: #727 NJDhockeyfan

Emails Disclose Galloway’s Syrian Support

Nice catch. I'm not surprised to learn it, at all. Galloway is a truly vile individual.

736 RogueOne  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:55:54am

re: #730 jaunte

That sounds familiar. My wife and son have been stopped by the Houston police several times for no apparent reason other than being different colors, in the same car.

I saw this story in 4 different places yesterday and someone in one of the threads posted this story:

It's about 10 minutes long but it's a really interesting story from Richard Price who happened to be on a ride-a-long with the police when they pull a guy over for the same thing, not being the same color as the kid.


This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2016-01-01 10:29 am PST
LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds Tweet

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Donate with
PayPal
Square Cash Shop at amazon
as an LGF Associate!
Recent PagesClick to refresh
US, China Agree to Cooperate on Climate Crisis With Urgency After seeing too many of these agreements in my lifetime that produced little change, my comment is that words are good but actions are better. SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — The United States and China, the world’s two biggest ...
Thanos
23 hours, 59 minutes ago
Views: 124 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 5 •
#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 210411The pumps are pumping along. Like they always should have.They go on when the sun comes out, they go off in the clouds and at night.We barely pay attention to their functioning and now can focus on the sight and ...
Dangerman
5 days, 17 hours ago
Views: 393 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 3
Tweets: 0 •
AFI - Dulcería (Official Music Video) "Dulcería" comes from AFI’s new album, Bodies, out June 11. Available for preorder everywhere now: riserecords.lnk.to ​ Directed by Adam Mason, produced by Elizabeth Mason LYRICSI saw sugar there, dancing in the sweet air. When my eyes began to ...
Thanos
1 week ago
Views: 526 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 8 •
The Shaolin Afronauts - Winds Across Gayanamede (Live at Adelaide Festival Centre) Recorded 21 January 2012 at Adelaide Festival Centre, Adelaide, Australia. Winds Across Gayanamede is taken from the second album from The Shaolin Afronauts; Quest Under Capricorn. The album drops 16 July on vinyl, CD and digital download via Freestyle ...
Thanos
1 week ago
Views: 469 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 4 •
#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 210404Did you spend all week thinking about solar power and pumps? We didn't either.A week of flawless electrics and hydraulics.The first few days we went out to check on it like hourly.Now we don't even think about itThe proof of ...
Dangerman
1 week, 5 days ago
Views: 817 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 7
Tweets: 0 •
Springsteen - “Prove It All Night” Live at Cleveland Agora, 1978This is so perfect.
Secret ANTIFA Operative
2 weeks, 1 day ago
Views: 958 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 3
Tweets: 3 •
Foster the People - Lamb’s Wool (Official Music Video) Official animated music video for Foster The People's single 'Lamb's Wool' off of their most recent EP 'In The Darkest Of Nights, Let The Birds Sing'. Listen to 'Lamb's Wool' here: stem.ffm.to Listen to 'Lamb's Wool (with Poolside)' here: ...
Thanos
2 weeks, 1 day ago
Views: 915 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Tweets: 2 •
Talk Talk - It’s My Life (Live at Montreux 1986) Live at Montreux 1986 is a concert video release by the British synth pop band Talk Talk of a concert at 1986 Montreux Jazz Festival in Switzerland. The show was part of a tour that started in April 1986 ...
Thanos
2 weeks, 1 day ago
Views: 942 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Tweets: 2 •
KALEO - Skinny [OFFICIAL LYRIC VIDEO] Music and Lyrics by JJ Julius SonNew song “Skinny" available now: kaleo.lnk.toFrom the upcoming album Surface Sounds out 4/23: kaleo.lnk.to What makes you feel good?What makes you angry inside? Why don’t you love me?You want to fuck me or ...
Thanos
2 weeks, 3 days ago
Views: 995 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 3 •
Hania Rani - Live From Studio S2 Listen to 'Live from Studio S2': hania-rani.lnk.to The full live set video was premiered on the evening before the annual Piano Day worldwide celebrations (March 29th). The motivation to make the recording of the live performances which became the ...
Thanos
2 weeks, 3 days ago
Views: 1,048 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 2 •