Grammy Awards Open Thread
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Here’s an open thread to hang out and watch the Grammy Awards. There’s a live video feed here: GRAMMY Live.
736 comments
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:36:38pm |
Tonight will be a bummer of a show, I imagine.
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darthstar Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:37:58pm |
re: #1 Kragar
Foo Fighters better win.
Foo Fighters suck...but not as much as the Goo-Goo Dolls.
I'm actually still sad about Whitney...won't watch the Grammies.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:39:33pm |
re: #3 darthstar
Foo Fighters suck...but not as much as the Goo-Goo Dolls.
I'm actually still sad about Whitney...won't watch the Grammies.
I have no plans too actually watch.
And I'll be forced to destroy you over your FF comment.
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lawhawk Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:40:08pm |
The Mrs. has this on in the background. I'm surfin' the net and checking out info on my new camera. Caught the opening, and LL did a good job of paying tribute and moving things along. Tastefully done.
It's hard not to note Whitney's death - she was one of the biggest stars in music for 20 years, and I like the way that he wanted the crowd to celebrate her life and her music as the lasting tribute.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:44:24pm |
By the way, I heart Adele.
A pop star that's not a size 1. RAWR.
If I were single, and if she were desperate...
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Kragar Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:45:46pm |
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:46:13pm |
:Crosses Fingers:
Come on Taylor Swift, get at least one.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:47:23pm |
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lawhawk Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:47:36pm |
re: #8 Kragar
Dang.... should have meant that for Darth... and speaking of the FF
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:48:41pm |
Never realized how much their lead singer looks like Kevin Smith...
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:51:25pm |
One Percenters serving the interest of MegaCorporations! Ripping off the 99% with comic book movies, sequels and remakes! Who's got the pepper spray?
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Lidane Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:51:46pm |
I like the Foo Fighters. In fact, FF > Nirvana.
Also, live music on TV? Awesome.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:52:31pm |
re: #13 Killgore Trout
One Percenters serving the interest of MegaCorporations! Ripping off the 99% with comic book movies, sequels and remakes! Who's got the pepper spray?
oops, I thought it was the Oscars. Oh, well. Same crap in a different medium.
/I still want the pepper spray
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:54:30pm |
It's cute watching Target try to sell cds to us. Very quaint.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 5:59:51pm |
re: #18 Lidane
Hmm. Coldplay and Rihanna? Not sure about this.
He made me think they were going to be playing together. Thankfully they are not. It would be like putting mustard on ice cream, I think...
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Lidane Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:00:49pm |
Hah. My DVR just cut away from the Grammys to The Walking Dead.
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_RememberTonyC Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:01:09pm |
re: #18 Lidane
Hmm. Coldplay and Rihanna? Not sure about this.
She is in one of the songs on Coldplay's recent album
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:02:44pm |
New episode of The Walking Dead is on too...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:05:23pm |
re: #20 Lidane
Hah. My DVR just cut away from the Grammys to The Walking Dead.
Damn staight... been waiting for this for months.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:06:24pm |
re: #2 Long Nics are Looonnng
Tonight will be a bummer of a show, I imagine.
Cathartic, and with a tribute clip pulled together at the last screaming minute.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:06:25pm |
re: #24 Charles Johnson
New episode of The Walking Dead is on too...
The acting is top flight on this show.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:06:56pm |
re: #7 Long Nics are Looonnng
By the way, I heart Adele.
A pop star that's not a size 1. RAWR.
If I were single, and if she were desperate...
She is really pretty.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:07:43pm |
Ah. Willie Nelson doing Coldplay. Love this one.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:07:47pm |
Taylor Swift has gotten 2.
I am very pleased. Now, she needs to get album of the year in the Country group.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:08:44pm |
Hahaha:
I love Coldplay because they're like Radiohead without all the goddamned thinking.
— Michael Ian Black (@michaelianblack) February 13, 2012
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:08:49pm |
Hopefully within the next 25 years we'll be able to see Cold Play at the Super Bowl.
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lawhawk Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:09:54pm |
re: #15 Lidane
I like the Foo Fighters. In fact, FF > Nirvana.
Also, live music on TV? Awesome.
Always though that Grohl was underrated while in Nirvana, and now his career with the FF has gone on more than twice as long as Nirvana with even greater success (7 years from 1987-1994 versus 18 years; 1994-2012). Dude can rock.
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austin_blue Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:10:36pm |
Wow. That Chipotle Grill ad was aces. Oh, wait McDonald's owns it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:11:17pm |
re: #33 lawhawk
Grohl appears to be having fun. Makes me think he'll be around for a while.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:11:26pm |
Who ever had the highest sales of the nomines in category = winner.
No respect for the Grammys in any way shape or form.
Though I usually pity the poor unlucky person who gets the best new artist award. All too often it's a kiss of death...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:12:20pm |
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:12:24pm |
re: #15 Lidane
I like the Foo Fighters. In fact, FF > Nirvana.
Would that I had many more up dings to give.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:12:41pm |
What's hilarious about the Grammys is that the Recording Academy is literally across the street from me. I walk by them every time I go to the coffee shop near my house.
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_RememberTonyC Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:12:59pm |
re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist
She is really pretty.
I had a two hour drive on Thursday and listened to the CD of Adele's concert at Royal Albert Hall ... It was awesome.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:13:55pm |
re: #36 William Barnett-Lewis
Marc Cohn - Walking in Memphis
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:15:22pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:15:59pm |
re: #7 Long Nics are Looonnng
Keep it in your pants, stud. I already called dibs.
/
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:16:23pm |
re: #44 Look At My New Grandbaby!
New cover of an old song.
Never mind, he's the original artist, I was thinking of the Lonestar cover.
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lawhawk Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:16:35pm |
Ah... a stand against electronic crap and for good old fashioned rock and roll. He's after all, a garage band, from Seattle.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:16:40pm |
I'm being retro this evening. Listening to ELO songs via YouTube.
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lawhawk Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:17:14pm |
re: #46 Look At My New Grandbaby!
You have some Yogurt with that? /Dark Helmet
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Lidane Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:17:41pm |
re: #36 William Barnett-Lewis
Though I usually pity the poor unlucky person who gets the best new artist award. All too often it's a kiss of death...
Lately, yes. In the beginning, though, they had some decent choices:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
However, The Starland Vocal band beating Boston, A Taste of Honey beating Elvis Costello, Christopher Cross beating both The Pretenders and The Go-Go's, and Milli Vanilli winning at all invalidate the award.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:18:01pm |
re: #48 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
I'm being retro this evening. Listening to ELO songs via YouTube.
Yay.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:18:30pm |
If I were gay, I would totally be over Adam Levine.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:18:33pm |
re: #44 Look At My New Grandbaby!
Nah... that was his... Cher covered it, but he wrote it... performed it... won his Grammy... and poof! he's gone.
Beatles won the Best New Artist Grammy.
Looked it up. Best New Artist Grammy folks normally have very long successful careers.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:19:07pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:19:44pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:19:50pm |
re: #52 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow
If?
/NTTAWWT
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Lidane Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:20:17pm |
re: #52 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow
If I were gay, I would totally be over Adam Levine.
Hilariously, the gay men on my Twitter feed agree with you. XD
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:21:20pm |
re: #57 Lidane
Hilariously, the gay men on my Twitter feed agree with you. XD
Hey, I can totally admit that the guy is good-looking.
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:23:17pm |
re: #53 Long Nics are Looonnng
Nah... that was his... Cher covered it, but he wrote it... performed it... won his Grammy... and poof! he's gone.
I love that song.
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lawhawk Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:23:33pm |
re: #50 Lidane
There were some real competitive early years - 1963 had Robert Goulet win, and the losers? Peter Paul and Mary and the Four Seasons.
1966 - Tom Jones wins over Sunny and Cher and The Byrds
Class of 1970: CSN wins over Chicago and Led Zeppelin.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:24:29pm |
Okay y'all. This thing isn't on in my time zone for another hour and a half, so no spoilers.
///
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lawhawk Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:24:49pm |
re: #58 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow
The Mrs so totally goes gaga over Adam Levine... and Victor Cruz.... and Taye Diggs....
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_RememberTonyC Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:24:50pm |
I was hoping Foster the People would play Pumped Up Kicks ... Love that tune.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:25:04pm |
An Obama slogan from DKos comments: "Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive".
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:25:52pm |
re: #66 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)
An Obama slogan from DKos comments: "Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive".
Hasn't Biden been saying that for some time now?
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:26:05pm |
The Beach Boys look about a 100 years old.. They'll play at the Superbowl within a few years.
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lawhawk Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:27:20pm |
re: #64 chan
Mariah Carey and Toni Braxton were on the money... FWIW
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_RememberTonyC Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:27:45pm |
re: #68 The Hoopster
The Beach Boys look about a 100 years old.. They'll play at the Superbowl within a few years.
Yeah, but Mike Love's nephew Kevin can flat out ball!
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:28:53pm |
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:29:08pm |
re: #3 darthstar
Foo Fighters suck...but not as much as the Goo-Goo Dolls.
I'm actually still sad about Whitney...won't watch the Grammies.
Primus sucks!
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:29:20pm |
I see there's rioting in Greece over the austerity measures...
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:29:57pm |
re: #73 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow
I see there's rioting in Greece over the austerity measures...
All the money they're spending on the riots could probably pay off their debt.
//
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:31:16pm |
re: #74 Gus
All the money they're spending on the riots could probably pay off their debt.
//
Some clever wag should put out a newspaper headline there that Turkey has offered to buy a big chunk of the debt and foreclose on it. I bet that would generate a unifying push.
/
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:31:50pm |
re: #69 lawhawk
Toni Braxton... Now I wish I was watching. Love Toni Braxton.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:37:50pm |
The Walking Dead is the best series on TV right now.
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prairiefire Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:38:06pm |
re: #77 Long Nics are Looonnng
Toni Braxton... Now I wish I was watching. Love Toni Braxton.
She and her family have a reality show "Braxton Family Values." I've got one on the DVR, I haven't watched it yet.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:39:01pm |
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:39:48pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:41:40pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:42:34pm |
re: #85 Charles Johnson
Now you're just rubbing it in. Meanie.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:44:16pm |
re: #86 Gus
Netflix is incredibly tempting, but every time I hear of a great old/new series being streamed on there, they somehow decide to stop streaming it.
It's like they don't want my money.
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:44:20pm |
re: #87 Slumbering Behemoth
Now you're just rubbing it in. Meanie.
Now don't go running into the bathroom writing diabolical messages on the mirror in red lipstick.
//
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:44:26pm |
I could be watching Walking Dead, but Taylor Swift is singing to me right now.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:45:17pm |
I think she's looking for Kanye in the crowd so she can be prepared...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:45:34pm |
re: #92 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow
I could be watching Walking Dead, but Taylor Swift is singing to me right now.
Who's he?
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freetoken Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:46:16pm |
Just ate my first loquat of the season. A mild flavored (sort of apple-ish like a Golden Delicious) one.
Only problem is... it's not supposed to be the "season" yet.
I've never picked on this early - Feb 12th - before. The blooming for the loquat trees was mixed up this year, and a couple of my favorite trees in the neighborhood barely bloomed at all.
Weird.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:46:23pm |
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Kragar Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:47:28pm |
re: #93 Charles Johnson
And getting more intense.
You back East right now? Thought it didn't come on till 9?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:48:13pm |
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Kragar Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:49:30pm |
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:50:04pm |
Things I've learned from Twitter tonight: Jim Hoft is a Taylor Swift fan.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:50:37pm |
re: #96 freetoken
A local bee keeper lost more than half of his (herd? swarm?) due to the unseasonably warm weather.
The bees think there's food to be had, and spend all day trying to find food when there is none to be had instead of hibernating like they should be.
La Niña? AGW? Both?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:51:08pm |
re: #99 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow
t(t")
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:54:38pm |
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freetoken Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:55:50pm |
re: #103 Slumbering Behemoth
The trouble that some of the loquats had, I think, is that when they bloomed the bees were not around - too early. Or too late, as some loquats were still trying to bloom just a few weeks ago.
Probably La Nina related, but "seasons" in San Diego doesn't mean much, really. Some years the monsoon season will bring rain, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes the fall months will bring severe Santa Ana conditions (and associate fires), and sometimes they don't. In winter the rains come - except when they don't. Horticulture here is pretty much totally dependent upon human controlled watering.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:56:45pm |
I see that "Walking Dead" gets very good reviews at IMDB. Not seen the series at all as zombies aren't really my thing. But the reviews rave over it.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:57:30pm |
re: #108 freetoken
I see that "Walking Dead" gets very good reviews at IMDB. Not seen the series at all as zombies aren't really my thing. But the reviews rave over it.
It's not about the zombies.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:59:25pm |
re: #109 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow
It's not about the zombies.
Zombies get a bad rap. They're base-line consumers with obvious needs. Should be easy for an ad executive to come up with an effective marketing scheme for them.
And he can be sent to present it in person.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:59:49pm |
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:00:24pm |
Wow. I've rarely seen such a riveting show on TV. Incredible writing and acting.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:00:59pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:01:02pm |
re: #108 freetoken
I see that "Walking Dead" gets very good reviews at IMDB. Not seen the series at all as zombies aren't really my thing. But the reviews rave over it.
It's not so much a zombie show as it is a desperate measures taken by desperate people. Top shelf acting...
The zombies are cool, but they're not the story.
(I normally root for the Zombies... this show? I don't; most of the time)
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:01:04pm |
I'm not a fan of zombies. I like procedurals. My favorite shows are "Bones" "House" "NCIS Los Angeles" and this show "The finder" which is supposed to fill in for "Bones" while Emily Deschanel is on maternity leave.
I'm getting kind of bored with the "Alcatraz" show. "Time Traveling convict of the week." The cop chick somehow manages to let the bad guy grab her every freaking time! And then the fat guy has to save her.
I really want to see a police drama with a hot guy and a fat chick. There was Morgan and Garcia in "Criminal Minds" but then she lost weight.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:01:05pm |
WH post is on memeorandum FP.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:03:20pm |
re: #116 Look At My New Grandbaby!
We could put FBV in a dress. Would that work for you?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:03:33pm |
And this from the FN comments:
duointherain 4 hours ago
Just Wow... I did get here because there was a news story being written about these comments. Just... wow. If it's any consolation, lots of religious and low tech people come by the forums I hang out in. Not so many fiscal conservatives. They usually have better things to do. It's the ones that derive their self esteem from making other's feel bad that troll. So where does that leave me? I suppose I have a bit of a hero complex, wanting to defend people. You all make me worry about when this takes to the streets.. the Zombies almost...
show more
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:04:40pm |
And the most recent excuse:
busterbawlz 3 hours ago in reply to sidray
Those comments are also taken out of context.While I certainly would not offer that 'two wrongs DO make a right',
Goading, by Libtrolls DOES prompt unfortunate replies.
The Libtrolls are here for JUST THAT PURPOSE.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:05:52pm |
re: #120 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)
Is that like an evolved form of Libplants?
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:05:54pm |
re: #115 Long Nics are Looonnng
It's not so much a zombie show as it is a desperate measures taken by desperate people. Top shelf acting...
The zombies are cool, but they're not the story.
Zombies chasing two guys isn't especially interesting. One guy shooting the other in the leg to get away from those zombies so at least one of them can make it gets you thinking...
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:05:56pm |
re: #118 Slumbering Behemoth
We could put FBV in a dress. Would that work for you?
When I said "a hot guy" and "a fat chick" I didn't mean they should be one and the same person!
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:06:35pm |
Nothing against Adele, but I think I've heard this song way too much.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:06:41pm |
re: #122 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow
Zombies chasing two guys isn't especially interesting. One guy shooting the other in the leg to get away from those zombies so at least one of htem can make it gets you thinking...
*scribbles in the Survival Tips notebook*
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Bipartite Gnomenclature Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:06:57pm |
Don't mind me, I'm not watching TV tonight, I'm building a CentOS LAMP/CMS/Groupware server and grooving to Metheny's Orchestration.
Just logged on as 'root'.
Now turning off the firewall.
Groovy.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:07:13pm |
re: #123 Look At My New Grandbaby!
The studio is on a tight budget, you gotta work with me here.
/
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:07:45pm |
And of course that old racist neo-confederate RSMcCain had to chime in.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:09:45pm |
re: #128 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)
Lemme guess. Substituting "q"s for "g"s means it's not racist. And that was a liberal plant, anyway.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:10:19pm |
re: #128 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)
And of course that old racist neo-confederate RSMcCain had to chime in.
That's how he demonstrates how irrelevant I am.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:10:56pm |
I love it when racists try to convince us that the shit they say isn't racist.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:11:50pm |
re: #129 Slumbering Behemoth
Lemme guess. Substituting "q"s for "g"s means it's not racist. And that was a liberal plant, anyway.
Yes. He, of course, mentions KT's old stunt. Without mentioning that KT wasn't planting any comments, i.e. leaving them under pretense of being one of the conservatives. Rather, in almost each comment he quite explicitly stated his aim.
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:12:20pm |
re: #129 Slumbering Behemoth
Lemme guess. Substituting "q"s for "g"s means it's not racist. And that was a liberal plant, anyway.
Hilarious ain't it? If anyone was going to troll they wouldn't be so nuanced. These were thought out racist comments and they knew already to use the "q" spelling which something I never even though of. It's pathetic. They're like junkies that refuse to acknowledge they have an addiction problem.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:12:41pm |
re: #131 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow
I once lived near a guy who made no bones about it. "Fuck yeah I'm a racist".
As you can imagine, he wasn't a very happy guy.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:12:42pm |
re: #131 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow
I love it when racists try to convince us that the shit they say isn't racist.
They're only talking to each other -- nobody with more than two brain cells is buying what they're selling.
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:12:49pm |
re: #132 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)
Yes. He, of course, mentions KT's old stunt. Without mentioning that KT wasn't planting any comments, i.e. leaving them under pretense of being one of the conservatives. Rather, in almost each comment he quite explicitly stated his aim.
Yeah. RS McCain who thinks "porch monkey" isn't racist.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:12:53pm |
re: #124 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow
Nothing against Adele, but I think I've heard this song way too much.
Not me. Freakin' great song. Freakin' great singer.
Freakin' great.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:13:59pm |
re: #136 Gus
Yeah. RS McCain who thinks "porch monkey" isn't racist.
RS McCain who loves the American Renaissance so much he wrote an article about blacks for them.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:14:01pm |
re: #134 Slumbering Behemoth
I've known a few racists in my life. None were happy.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:14:28pm |
Aw, Lady Antebellum won Best Country Album.
Nothing against them, but TSwift is better.
How many of her songs from "Speak Now" charted on the Billboard 100?
ALL OF THEM!!
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_RememberTonyC Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:14:51pm |
re: #137 Long Nics are Looonnng
Not me. Freakin' great song. Freakin' great singer.
Freakin' great.
And a very cool girl too!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:15:14pm |
Race and Teenage PregnancyThe “crisis” is hardly the same for all races.
by Burke C. Dabney
[Link: www.amren.com...]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:16:22pm |
re: #144 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)
White women would have to give birth to 13.5 percent more babies every year in order for the white population just to maintain its current size. Meanwhile, Hispanic and black fertility rates are 62 and 20 percent higher than the white rate, and ensure growing populations while the white population declines. One might well wonder about indiscriminate anti-natalist propaganda when some groups in the country are already below replacement-level fertility. The “success” of such propaganda only accelerates the decline of the white population. If crusaders against teenage motherhood were serious, they would concentrate on the black and Hispanic girls who account for more than half of teenage births. Targeting whites as part of a general campaign is yet another form of racial suicide. We should encourage whites to have children within marriage; instead they are encouraged only to use contraceptives, whether married or single.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:16:44pm |
re: #135 Charles Johnson
They're only talking to each other -- nobody with more than two brain cells is buying what they're selling.
Indeed. They seem to be ignoring the fact that comments like that go undeleted, unmoderated, and get many "Likes".
Shit, people who by these excuses couldn't get two brain cells together if they were two dogs in heat.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:17:36pm |
re: #137 Long Nics are Looonnng
Not me. Freakin' great song. Freakin' great singer.
Freakin' great.
Adele's former boyfriend demanded a slice of the royalties from 21, after learning several of the tracks were inspired by their break-up. She told British newspaper The Sun, "For about a week he was calling and was deadly serious about it. Finally, I said, 'Well, you made my life hell, so I lived it and now I deserve it.' He really thought he'd had some input into the creative process by being a p---k. I'll give him this credit - he made me an adult and put me on the road that I'm traveling."
-From Songfacts.com
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Bipartite Gnomenclature Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:18:12pm |
Just had to reboot.
Such mellow guitar work.
Get Adele to sing with Metheny's playing and you have bliss.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:18:21pm |
re: #148 Long Nics are Looonnng
European Socialism!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:19:34pm |
From Chairman McCain's Little Brown Book:
And so when we see an overreaction to this programme, with people urging a return to Jim Crow or even advocating the formation of separate racial nations, the first thing we must understand is that we're looking at a reaction that is not entirely illogical.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:20:28pm |
re: #151 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)
Partly to protect blacks from white terrorism, partly to prevent interracial contact which could lead to incidents that might provoke such terrorism, CONSERVATIVE Southerners that is, the most eminent and most revered men in Dixie adopted the convenience of separate public accommodations for blacks and whites.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:22:16pm |
Oh, you made the top of Kos' rec list, too.
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:22:18pm |
Here's why Robert Stacy McCain (aka Burke C. Dabney) is attacking me (again) tonight:
[Link: lgf.bz...]
Heading towards 4,000 clicks on our Twitter link. And that's only a fraction of the total.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:23:05pm |
re: #151 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)
He's clearly not a Vulcan.
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_RememberTonyC Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:23:53pm |
re: #148 Long Nics are Looonnng
Adele's former boyfriend demanded a slice of the royalties from 21, after learning several of the tracks were inspired by their break-up. She told British newspaper The Sun, "For about a week he was calling and was deadly serious about it. Finally, I said, 'Well, you made my life hell, so I lived it and now I deserve it.' He really thought he'd had some input into the creative process by being a p---k. I'll give him this credit - he made me an adult and put me on the road that I'm traveling."
-From Songfacts.com
My buddy John Hamlin produced the 60 Minutes segment on Adele tonight. He did a great job showing what a cool lady she is. Bravo John, Bravo Adele.
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Bipartite Gnomenclature Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:24:49pm |
I've always thought humans were socialist by nature.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:25:39pm |
re: #152 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)
So by the basic political and religious tenets of Americans in 1860, the existence of slavery should have been no evil, had it not been for the egalitarian phraseology of the Declaration of Independence. The Declaration, thus, is in direct conflict with the Constitution and Judeo-Christian scripture.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:27:13pm |
re: #159 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)
Intolerable abuses of the powers created by Northern interests, and reflected by the rise of the Republican Party, as detailed in Georgia's explanation of its secession:
[...]
3. Northern states' attempts to nullify fugitive slave laws, thus seeking to deprive Southerners of their property without due process of law.
[...]
Secession in 1860-61 was meant to pre-empt the usurpation of power by the federal government. Look at the manifest abuses of federal power today, and one must conclude that the South was correct in seeing "all the consequences in the principle" -- the heinous imperial principle that the states are mere "districts" or "provinces" of the central government -- and very wisely did they seek to avoid "the consequences by denying the principle."
You can natter on about slavery and racism and treason and such all you want to, but on the main point, the adherents of Leviathan were wrong and the South was right. Smaller governments, having less power, are less abusive than large governments.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:27:39pm |
re: #160 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)
WANTED for WAR CRIMES: Abraham Lincoln
* Violation of the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
* Unconstitutional suppression of civil liberties in Ohio and other states
* Suspension of the writ of habeas corpus
* Disbanding the legislature of Maryland
* Aggression against the Southern Confederacy
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:28:09pm |
re: #161 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)
Though most 19th-century white Americans, North and South, subscribed to racial theories that consigned blacks to an inferior status as "hewers of wood and drawers of water," it is incorrect to say that slavery was a system based upon racial hatred. Indeed, both white and black Southerners of the era have left us testimony to the cordial and affectionate relations which generally existed between the races in the Old South.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:29:04pm |
One of RS McCain's racist friends chimes in:
@rsmccain I think he planted them myself. #LGF he's that fucking ate up.
— Patrick (@DetroitRight) February 13, 2012
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jaunte Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:29:43pm |
re: #144 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)
"Burke C. Dabney"
The perfect pseudonym to demonstrate that you're not a racist.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:30:02pm |
re: #162 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)
The intent of ROOTS -- and your intent in endorsing Haley's fraud — seems to have been to say that those slaves who were happy were fools, and that all those who are not outraged by the historical fact of slavery are either fools or malefactors.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:30:49pm |
re: #165 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)
I'm glad to see, Lynn, that you are a religious Jew. As far as I can tell, much of the anti-Semitism in America today is directed at the secular Jews who worship the Modern Trinity: Darwin, Marx and Freud.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:31:23pm |
Well, I hope I've made the point. /
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jaunte Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:31:59pm |
re: #162 ლ(*ڡ*ლ)
Indeed, both white and black Southerners of the era have left us testimony to the cordial and affectionate relations which generally existed between the races in the Old South.
I'm sure everyone was free to speak their mind openly.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:33:11pm |
OT
Thought I would try out this posting name stuff. I'm using a riff from my post about numbers stations from a while back. The Wikipedia articles have received some updates since then, including recordings from The Lincolnshire Poacher and its eastern sister station, Cherry Ripe.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:34:41pm |
re: #164 jaunte
"Burke C. Dabney"
The perfect pseudonym to demonstrate that you're not a racist.
C stands for Calhoun. No joke.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:34:48pm |
I need to listen to new music. Never heard of Bon Iver.
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:36:38pm |
re: #163 Charles Johnson
One of RS McCain's racist friends chimes in:
Right. A racist talking to a racist defending racism. Makes sense. Here's a search for "blacks" at his website: blacks site:thoughtsandrantings.com
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:38:16pm |
re: #172 Gus
Right. A racist talking to a racist defending racism. Makes sense. Here's a search for "blacks" at his website: blacks site:thoughtsandrantings.com
Leave the fish in the barrel alone!/
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:38:28pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:38:38pm |
re: #140 Long Nics are Looonnng
I've known a few racists in my life. None were happy.
Well, not since 1964, anyway.
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BongCrodny Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:39:21pm |
re: #168 jaunte
Indeed, both white and black Southerners of the era have left us testimony to the cordial and affectionate relations which generally existed between the races in the Old South.
My brain hurts after reading that.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:39:31pm |
re: #172 Gus
Right. A racist talking to a racist defending racism. Makes sense. Here's a search for "blacks" at his website: blacks site:thoughtsandrantings.com
It might be this "Patrick:"
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Lidane Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:40:29pm |
re: #108 freetoken
I see that "Walking Dead" gets very good reviews at IMDB. Not seen the series at all as zombies aren't really my thing. But the reviews rave over it.
The Walking Dead isn't really about the zombies. In fact, you don't see them that much. It's about the people living in the aftermath of a zombie apocalypse.
Great stuff.
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Bipartite Gnomenclature Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:40:30pm |
re: #168 Stacy McCain's Confederate Ball Gown
I'm sure everyone was free to speak their mind openly.
No whippings and rapes withstanding.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:40:54pm |
heh. That DKos mention is probably going to generate a few more hatchlings.
And I see that Hunter over there has a nice article on Santorum being an unproven theory. All the creationist pseudo-logic and claims in a nice satirical ball.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:42:03pm |
re: #181 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
heh. That DKos mention is probably going to generate a few more hatchlings.
And I see that Hunter over there has a nice article on Santorum being an unproven theory. All the creationist pseudo-logic and claims in a nice satirical ball.
The thread was also quoted and credited on Crooks and Liars.
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:42:48pm |
re: #178 Charles Johnson
It might be this "Patrick:"
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
They're seething with rage.
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Bipartite Gnomenclature Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:42:49pm |
re: #181 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
heh. That DKos mention is probably going to generate a few more hatchlings.
And I see that Hunter over there has a nice article on Santorum being an unproven theory. All the creationist pseudo-logic and claims in a nice satirical ball.
Do we get to eat the babies?
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freetoken Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:43:37pm |
re: #179 Lidane
The Walking Dead isn't really about the zombies. In fact, you don't see them that much. It's about the people living in the aftermath of a zombie apocalypse.
Thanks. Maybe I'll check it out.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:43:43pm |
re: #178 Charles Johnson
It might be this "Patrick:"
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
My first thought too, but it's not him.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:45:03pm |
re: #185 freetoken
Thanks. Maybe I'll check it out.
I'm pretty sure the first season is on Netflix instant streaming. It's worth your time, no question.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:45:31pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:46:10pm |
re: #188 RSMcCain = sh-tstain
Was thrown off by his "I support Israel" sidebar, though this guy was a raving anti-neocon and antisemite in his Political Byline days.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:48:27pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:49:47pm |
re: #190 RSMcCain = sh-tstain
Was thrown off by his "I support Israel" sidebar, though this guy was a raving anti-neocon and antisemite in his Political Byline days.
Just so you know why at first I thought it wasn't this Pat:
[Link: frontpagemag.com...]
"Anti-Semitic Gutter Sludge Attacks Us As “Jew Ass Kissers”"
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:50:43pm |
re: #178 Charles Johnson
It might be this "Patrick:"
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
It's him:
patrick glock site:politicalbyline.com
[Link: politicalbyline.com...]
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BongCrodny Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:51:58pm |
re: #191 Dark_Falcon
My Standing Answer to Neo-Confederates:
[Video]
I see that YouTube has disabled comments for that song.
I'm guessing there was a lot of profanity involved.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:52:32pm |
re: #193 Fox News: Not Racist but for Racists
It's him:
patrick glock site:politicalbyline.com
[Link: politicalbyline.com...]
Yep, I thought I recognized that lunatic.
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:52:59pm |
re: #195 Charles Johnson
Yep, I thought I recognized that lunatic.
Here's another Twitter account of his.
[Link: twitter.com...]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:53:55pm |
re: #192 RSMcCain = sh-tstain
Screenshot of the post in question, entitled "The Feckless Far-Right: Exhibit ZS for Zionist Stupidity":
But he is all like Israel-supporty now.
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Romantic Heretic Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:57:58pm |
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jaunte Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:58:11pm |
Some idiots on twitter volunteering to be beaten by Chris Brown if that means they can meet him.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 7:59:01pm |
re: #194 BongCrodny
I see that YouTube has disabled comments for that song.
I'm guessing there was a lot of profanity involved.
Actually no, though there were insults thrown. The real reason Command Centre disabled comments for all Civil War related songs was that the comments were always basically refighting the war. So any civil war related song automatically drew in Neo-Confederates to praise it (if pro-South) or attack it (if pro-North) as well as Unionists who fought battles of words with the Neos. For the most part, the unionists were better behaved and more honest, but commentators both sides engaged in insult flinging. The Neo-Confederates did more and worse BS, but ComCen finally just got sick of it all and closed comments for such songs.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:00:04pm |
re: #131 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow
I love it when racists try to convince us that the shit they say isn't racist.
They've evolved enough to realize that racism's bad...most of them...so they have to employ clever sophistry to insist that they're not being racist.
Like saying 'knickers' in their raps.
| 203 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:00:26pm |
Hey all!
Paul McCartney needs to stay home;
Tony Bennett is a class act;
Jennifer Hudson's performance was beautiful;
Katie Perry is not Lady Gaga
and
will someone please explain Rihanna to me.
How is everyone?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:00:32pm |
re: #197 RSMcCain = sh-tstain
Here's McCain's take on that 2010 scandal:
[Link: theothermccain.com...]
A Short List . . .
. . . of Astoundingly Stupid Things No Conservative Blogger in His Right Mind Would Ever Even Think About Doing:
Publish posts conflating “neocons” and “Jews” in such a way as to provoke accusations of anti-Semitism.
Respond to such accusations by publishing deranged rants against Jews.
Get into hateful public pissing matches with Ace of Spades and other cuddly ewoks who never harmed a fly, at least if the fly usually voted Republican.
Personally attack Michelle Malkin. (Dude. WTF?)
Push that kind of act to such outrageous extremes that one Sunday morning I’m finally confonted with Twitter messages like this:
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:02:02pm |
re: #199 Romantic Heretic
Sarge is the shit. But Caboose is my favorite.
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Romantic Heretic Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:02:02pm |
re: #168 jaunte
I'm sure everyone was free to speak their mind openly.
They were.
What happened to a black person afterwards was a separate thing not related to racism at all. /
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:02:38pm |
re: #158 SH1T My Conscience Says
I've always thought humans were socialist by nature.
I've always thought the opposite.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:04:17pm |
re: #204 RSMcCain = sh-tstain
Here's DetroitRight's AKA PaleoPat's AKA Charles Patrick Adkins' post that I guarantee wasn't planted by Charles Johnson ;)
For the Record….:
Bill Kristol is a JEW
Andrew BreitBart is a JEW
Pamela Geller is a JEW
Matt Drudge is a JEW
John Podhoretz is a JEW
The people I have listed, are the one’s who are shrieking the loudest about this Mosque; and yes, they are ALL JEWS. Does that make me an Anti-Semite? No. It does not. It makes me someone, who is aware of the facts —- That the Neo-Conservative JEWS are making this damned Mosque a political issue, instead of a local issue.
I can tolerate diversity of opinion, but damned dirty pool, I will not tolerate and I will expose these idiots for what they are and that are the lying scum that they are.
There is nothing I cannot STAND worse than Identity Politics of the LEFT and that is the Identity Politics and under-handed crap of the Zionist right!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:05:44pm |
re: #207 Lidane
Marketing.
I guess, she is very pretty and has a beautiful voice. I hope she get's to evolve in her talent as she grows older.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:05:51pm |
re: #209 RSMcCain = sh-tstain
I'm very glad this deranged SOB doesn't live near me.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:06:01pm |
re: #200 jaunte
Some idiots on twitter volunteering to be beaten by Chris Brown if that means they can meet him.
Why are you trying to inspire me to spit on the living room rug?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:06:53pm |
re: #205 Slumbering Behemoth
Sarge is the shit. But Caboose is my favorite.
"Yes. I am a gay robot."
| 214 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:07:04pm |
I was rather amazed at the Beach Boys --50 years? I guess beach living is good for the body.
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jaunte Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:07:42pm |
re: #212 SanFranciscoZionist
I'll try to think of something funnier.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:08:10pm |
re: #212 SanFranciscoZionist
Why are you trying to inspire me to spit on the living room rug?
Why would you spit on your own rug?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:11:23pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:11:30pm |
re: #216 ggt
Taking the high road on this one. You're all welcome.
| 219 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:12:01pm |
What is the USA's "country number" if you are trying to call here from another country?
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jaunte Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:12:16pm |
James Urbaniak @JamesUrbaniak re Nicki Minaj:
This is the "Total Eclipse of the Heart" video levels of forced weirdness.
| 222 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:12:58pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:13:11pm |
re: #219 ggt
What is the USA's "country number" if you are trying to call here from another country?
We're number 1! We're number 1!
(Well, we are.)
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austin_blue Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:14:41pm |
My buddy Terry Lacona, of Austin City Limits, produced the last two Grammy shows. Thought he did a pretty good job of tap dancing given the changes that needed to be made today. Good job!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:15:12pm |
Some people are slowpokes:
I thought Little Green Footballs was a wingnut (1+ / 0-)
site. No?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:15:26pm |
re: #203 ggt
Hey all!
Paul McCartney needs to stay home;
Tony Bennett is a class act;
Jennifer Hudson's performance was beautiful;
Katie Perry is not Lady Gaga
and
will someone please explain Rihanna to me.
How is everyone?
listening to Iggy Pop, yourself?
| 227 |
freetoken Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:15:39pm |
re: #222 ggt
However, every local phone company may require something else be dialed to get to an international service.
Sometimes I've seen it listed in two digits as 01, or in three digits as 001, and so on.
When I lived in Japan, to call the US using my cell phone service I had to dial three digits.
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:15:50pm |
re: #211 Charles Johnson
I'm very glad this deranged SOB doesn't live near me.
Chuck Adkins also made this.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:16:06pm |
re: #224 austin_blue
My buddy Terry Lacona, of Austin City Limits, produced the last two Grammy shows. Thought he did a pretty good job of tap dancing given the changes that needed to be made today. Good job!
Jimmy Cliff is on ASL right now. They're having a party (pre-recorded)... but damn, they're having a party.
| 230 |
BongCrodny Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:18:00pm |
Wanna thank everyone for not spoiling "The Walking Dead."
I'm on the East Coast, and 11:00 just seems like a better time to watch it than 9:00. :-)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:18:17pm |
re: #226 windupbird is in the gravity well
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:18:50pm |
re: #224 austin_blue
My buddy Terry Lacona, of Austin City Limits, produced the last two Grammy shows. Thought he did a pretty good job of tap dancing given the changes that needed to be made today. Good job!
I understand.. But I thought Jeniffer Hudson singing Whitney should have ended the show.. It was beautiful..It was kind of washed out by Chris Brown following it with a Rap/Pop song...Way to be in the moment producers...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:19:08pm |
re: #220 Stacy McCain's Confederate Gray Teeth
James Urbaniak @JamesUrbaniak re Nicki Minaj:
This is the "Total Eclipse of the Heart" video levels of forced weirdness.
"Hey! That angel guy just felt me up!"
-Total Eclipse of the Heart, Literal Version
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Kragar Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:19:14pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:19:50pm |
re: #234 Kragar
they're so good at that shit. Fashion is danger!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:19:57pm |
re: #230 BongCrodny
Wanna thank everyone for not spoiling "The Walking Dead."
I'm on the East Coast, and 11:00 just seems like a better time to watch it than 9:00. :-)
(They're like zombies. They're walking dead.)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:20:18pm |
re: #234 Kragar
also, casio synth guitar ftw
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:20:42pm |
re: #228 Fox News: Not Racist but for Racists
Chuck Adkins also made this.
Proof: [Link: politicalbyline.com...]
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:20:57pm |
So there's RS McCain's Twitter buddy.
Classic. Taken down in less than 30 minutes.
Try again McCain. You're still failing. Nice racist buddy ya' got there.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:21:31pm |
re: #232 The Hoopster
I understand.. But I thought Jeniffer Hudson singing Whitney should have ended the show.. I was beautiful..It was kind of washed out by Chris Brown following it with a Rap/Pop song...Way to be in the moment producers...
Yeah, I'm pretty tired of Chris Brown and Rihanna.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:21:41pm |
re: #236 windupbird is in the gravity well
they're so good at that shit. Fashion is danger!
Anyone who can write a song which has lyrics like this deserves awesomeness.
Look to your left, what a beautiful sight,
It's Paula, Paula Thompson, nee Paula Wright.
Look at her hair, it's still gorgeous, even now.
Flowing like the Womahonga River,
Which incidently, is to your right.
And it's the largest, in the area
In terms of volume.
Everybody, look at Paula, look at Paula Thompson
I always thought I'd marry Paula
But some things just don't work out that way
Well, that's the most important thing you'll learn on the tour today
That, and the fact there'll be a toliet break
At the information center near the manmade lake
| 244 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:21:46pm |
re: #209 RSMcCain = sh-tstain
The vipers are fanging each other.
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:21:57pm |
re: #239 RSMcCain = sh-tstain
Proof: [Link: politicalbyline.com...]
This freak has managed to piss-off just about everybody on all sides.
| 247 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:23:56pm |
Is it just me or were there a lot of not just normal and healthy, but seriously overweight people on stage tonite?
Is there any middle ground between emaciated or muscle bound or overweight?
Are there any normal people?
| 248 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:24:20pm |
Why is Paul McCartney singing on stage?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:24:47pm |
re: #240 Fox News: Not Racist but for Racists
So there's RS McCain's Twitter buddy.
Classic. Taken down in less than 30 minutes.
Try again McCain. You're still failing. Nice racist buddy ya' got there.
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jaunte Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:25:05pm |
re: #247 ggt
The camera adds between 10 and 15 weirdness points.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:25:23pm |
re: #250 Stacy McCain's Confederate Gray Teeth
The camera adds between 10 and 15 weirdness points.
true
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austin_blue Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:25:29pm |
Now this is the end Terry wanted. Sir Paul sending us off.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:26:56pm |
re: #248 ggt
Why is Paul McCartney singing on stage?
Because he's considered a 'safe' way to end the evening, as opposed to Nicky Minaji whose video swipe at the Catholic Church annoyed me and is going to earn her some serious criticism.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:26:58pm |
re: #240 Fox News: Not Racist but for Racists
So there's RS McCain's Twitter buddy.
Classic. Taken down in less than 30 minutes.
Try again McCain. You're still failing. Nice racist buddy ya' got there.
To be fair, McCain condemned him in pretty strong terms in 2010. So unless there's evidence that he "forgave" him, he's not McCain's buddy anymore. I did not find him among Pat's readers.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:27:18pm |
Honestly, I didn't think it was that great of a show.
The performances were good, somehow it didn't flow --bad producing?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:28:02pm |
re: #253 Dark_Falcon
Because he's considered a 'safe' way to end the evening, as opposed to Nicky Minaji whose video swipe at the Catholic Church annoyed me and is going to earn her some serious criticism.
AFAI am concerned the Church can *&%!
I'm not happy with it right now.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:30:29pm |
I understand having Glenn Campbell on stage, he is doing good work right now.
There seemed the only the very old and the very young featured tonite.
Weird all around.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:31:25pm |
re: #258 ggt
I understand having Glenn Campbell on stage, he is doing good work right now.
There seemed the only the very old and the very young featured tonite.
Weird all around.
Everyone in between is vying for the next Superbowl halftime.
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Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:31:25pm |
re: #253 Dark_Falcon
Because he's considered a 'safe' way to end the evening, as opposed to Nicky Minaji whose video swipe at the Catholic Church annoyed me and is going to earn her some serious criticism.
What about Paul's swipe at my ears?!?!
Yeah, I went there.
:)
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:31:59pm |
re: #260 Varek Raith
What about Paul's swipe at my ears?!?!
Yeah, I went there.
:)
What, no Force Choke?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:32:23pm |
THe little girl on the bus singing Adele in the Target commercial was awesome. I could have listened to her sing the rest of the song.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:32:35pm |
re: #253 Dark_Falcon
Eh. The criticism I've seen of Nicki Minaj has nothing to do with the Church and everyone saying that she tried too hard to outdo Lady GaGa. I've seen people calling it this week's Lana Del Rey incident.
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austin_blue Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:32:38pm |
re: #258 ggt
I understand having Glenn Campbell on stage, he is doing good work right now.
There seemed the only the very old and the very young featured tonite.
Weird all around.
They had to rebuild the entire show in the12 hours after Whitney's death last night. Think about it. All in all, a good job.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:32:41pm |
re: #259 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Everyone in between is vying for the next Superbowl halftime.
Yeah, I noticed that.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:32:42pm |
Pat caused some conservative blogger to write:
Dreidelfuck you with a gefilte fish.
Now, that one is an instant classic.
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:33:03pm |
re: #254 RSMcCain = sh-tstain
To be fair, McCain condemned him in pretty strong terms in 2010. So unless there's evidence that he "forgave" him, he's not McCain's buddy anymore. I did not find him among Pat's readers.
That's fine then. They're not buddies. They both have their own unique freakishness.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:33:32pm |
re: #264 austin_blue
They had to rebuild the entire show in the12 hours after Whitney's death last night. Think about it. All in all, a good job.
I know, it's all I could think about the whole time. I'm sure it was that way with the performers and staff as well.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:35:43pm |
Final Rant before bedtime.
Anyone who purchased a Chris Brown album since he beat his girlfriend almost to death, is no friend of women.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:37:03pm |
re: #269 Long Nics are Looonnng
Final Rant before bedtime.
Anyone who purchased a Chris Brown album since he beat his girlfriend almost to death, is no friend of women.
One can say that about many of the turds in the music industry.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:38:03pm |
re: #270 Kragar
Then let's keep saying it until it makes some type of difference. When I saw that fucker on stage at a Grammy "rave", I wanted to see someone stomp a mudhole in his ass.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:39:22pm |
re: #269 Long Nics are Looonnng
Final Rant before bedtime.
Anyone who purchased a Chris Brown album since he beat his girlfriend almost to death, is no friend of women.
From what I understand, she punches back.
Strange pair.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:41:33pm |
re: #269 Long Nics are Looonnng
Final Rant before bedtime.
Anyone who purchased a Chris Brown album since he beat his girlfriend almost to death, is no friend of women.
I'm Not Okay With Chris Brown Performing at the Grammys and I'm Not Sure Why You Are
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:42:29pm |
re: #272 ggt
Good for her, though that's anything but a fair fight.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:43:21pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:43:50pm |
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Lidane Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:44:18pm |
re: #275 Slumbering Behemoth
Yeah. I just noticed that. It worked when I got it, then it didn't and now I've refreshed it and it works again. Weird.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:44:27pm |
Charles, a possible bug. When I'm trying to click on Mich-again's profile while in the Spy, I get this:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:44:35pm |
re: #269 Long Nics are Looonnng
Final Rant before bedtime.
Anyone who purchased a Chris Brown album since he beat his girlfriend almost to death, is no friend of women.
I'm distant enough from pop music nowadays to have no idea who he his. Which makes me pretty sure I've never purchased any of his music.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:45:44pm |
re: #273 Lidane
Micheal Vick caught more shit for what he did. Not saying it's equivalent, I'm just saying that shit ain't right.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:47:03pm |
I had a pink fuzzy sweater too!
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Lidane Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:48:03pm |
re: #280 Slumbering Behemoth
Micheal Vick caught more shit for what he did. Not saying it's equivalent, I'm just saying that shit ain't right.
Want to see something really shameful?
25 Extremely Upsetting Reactions To Chris Brown At The Grammys
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:49:43pm |
re: #274 Slumbering Behemoth
Good for her, though that's anything but a fair fight.
No not at all, yet sometimes, I've noticied, it takes two.
Unless we see serial abuse from either party, I'm not sure I can make a judgement.
Alcohol, drugs and two of the wrong people together can make for bad, bad behavior. I say this because I've seen it for myself.
It's not my life, so I can't really say.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:49:48pm |
mainstream music industry is like mainstream politics, it's full of criminals and soulless garbage :D The occasional hero, but mostly garbage
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:50:53pm |
re: #282 Lidane
Want to see something really shameful?
25 Extremely Upsetting Reactions To Chris Brown At The Grammys
stupid starfuckers are stupid.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:51:07pm |
lady gaga would qualify as a hero
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:51:19pm |
re: #266 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
Pat caused some conservative blogger to write:
Now, that one is an instant classic.
Loves it! Prefect way to flip the anti-Semitic asshat the bird.
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:51:26pm |
re: #281 ggt
I had a pink fuzzy sweater too!
I'm also pissed about Bobby Brown..My opinion is that he brought down Whitney
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:52:17pm |
re: #282 Lidane
It's sad, but there really are people like that. People that are fine, and sometimes enjoy that sort of thing. Warped masochists.
It's depressing.
On the other hand, my respect for Jay-Z went up by a million points.
Jay-Z, one of Rihanna’s mentors, spoke up: “You have to have compassion for others. Just imagine it being your sister or mom and then think about how we should talk about that. I just think we should all support her.”
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:54:01pm |
re: #282 Lidane
Want to see something really shameful?
25 Extremely Upsetting Reactions To Chris Brown At The Grammys
I am guessing that those young ladies have no idea what domestic violence feels like.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:55:10pm |
re: #289 The Hoopster
I'm also pissed about Bobby Brown..My opinion is that he brought down Whitney
I have the impression it was a mix of two mutually destructive personalities. If anything reinforcing the negatives in each other.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 12, 2012 8:59:45pm |
I'll never forget the day that my family told me that my newly-married sister was in an abusive situation. They had only suspected at first, and had tried to give her a way out of the marriage, but she had gone through with the wedding. (It would be another two years of encouragement by the family and assistance from my brother and sister-in-law before she just got fed up and walked out.)
I remember how I realized I had been taking for granted that I was safe in my own home. My father would never have hit us. My husband would not hit me.
Not all women are safe in their own homes. I won't ever forget that.
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Mich-again Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:03:28pm |
Foo Fighters rocked. I loved when Grohl talked about how the album was recorded in his garage and then went on to talk about how music isn't about what a computer can do but what's in here (points at heart) and what's in here (points at head). I've been into rock since the late 60's and Foo Fighters are right up there with the great bands from any era.
And it was really nice to see Adele sing again. I was a little worried how the recovery from throat surgery was going. She wasn't 100% but it was awesome. She needs to ditch the 4 shows a week touring schedule next time. No one can sing with that much power every other day for long.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:04:59pm |
I need to move away from music music for a moment to post something I've been meaning to mention:
A group of gun-banners called the "National Gun Victims Action Council" has called for a boycott of Starbucks on Valentine's Day, as Starbucks does not prohibit people holding a valid concealed carry permit from bringing their firearm into a Starbucks in areas where that is legal. In reply, a "Buycott" counter-plan is being promoted. The idea is to buy something from Starbucks on the 14th using $2 bills (2 for the 2nd Amendment and also because the reverse side of the bill contains a picture of the signing of the Declaration of Independence). I support the Buycott and urge my fellow lizards to join me on Tuesday in telling the gun-grabbers off!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:08:43pm |
re: #295 Mich-again
Foo Fighters rocked. I loved when Grohl talked about how the album was recorded in his garage and then went on to talk about how music isn't about what a computer can do but what's in here (points at heart) and what's in here (points at head). I've been into rock since the late 60's and Foo Fighters are right up there with the great bands from any era.
And it was really nice to see Adele sing again. I was a little worried how the recovery from throat surgery was going. She wasn't 100% but it was awesome. She needs to ditch the 4 shows a week touring schedule next time. No one can sing with that much power every other day for long.
She has the talent to be around a long time. She doesn't need to cash in while the hype's still strong.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:10:09pm |
re: #295 Mich-again
The Black Keys recorded their second LP in an abandoned rubber factory. Fancy shit not necessary.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:13:02pm |
re: #298 Slumbering Behemoth
The Black Keys recorded their second LP in an abandoned rubber factory. Fancy shit not necessary.
Good acoustics are. Talent is. Good writing is.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:14:08pm |
re: #296 Dark_Falcon
Much as I would like to...
1) I don't like their product.
2) I don't have any $2 bills.
3) I'm too cursedly frugal to buy brewed coffee when I can brew at home.
They'll have to be content with the fact that I support them in spirit, if not financially.
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Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:15:20pm |
Hey, Dark?
You might find these AARs a fun read.
[Link: aurora2.pentarch.org...]
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:15:42pm |
re: #299 Ooh, look, shiny...
I like their stripped down, lo-fi sound. It screams "punk rock" more than any modern punk that's being recorded.
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Mich-again Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:17:26pm |
re: #297 Ooh, look, shiny...
I don't think the 4 shows per week schedule was all her choice. I think it was her management looking to cash in as much as possible on their contract with her. The singer is the one person in the band that does best when they practice the least.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:18:07pm |
re: #300 Slumbering Behemoth
Much as I would like to...
1) I don't like their product.
Agreed. Their regular brewed coffee is terrible.
2) I don't have any $2 bills.
Same here, even though I used to have a customer at a restaurant I used to manage that would pay with everything in $2 bills. It was weird.
3) I'm too cursedly frugal to buy brewed coffee when I can brew at home.
That too. I'll also add this:
4) Ever since I bought a French press, I'm a convert. Regular brewed coffee doesn't taste right to me anymore.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:21:07pm |
re: #304 Lidane
Agreed. Their regular brewed coffee is terrible.
The only people who like Starbucks' coffee are the ones who buy that overly sugared, flavored crap. I don't.
I like my coffee like I like my women. Cold, green, and moldy.
/that's for you Walking Dead fans.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:21:26pm |
re: #304 Lidane
Agreed. Their regular brewed coffee is terrible.
Same here, even though I used to have a customer at a restaurant I used to manage that would pay with everything in $2 bills. It was weird.
That too. I'll also add this:
4) Ever since I bought a French press, I'm a convert. Regular brewed coffee doesn't taste right to me anymore.
They do sell hot chocolate.
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Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:22:15pm |
Speaking of coffee...
*Runs off to make some*
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:26:17pm |
re: #296 Dark_Falcon
Heh. In a country where it's okay to throw texters out of movie theatres, it's not okay to ask that gun carriers leave their pieces in the car.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:26:36pm |
re: #307 Varek Raith
Speaking of coffee...
*Runs off to make some*
No, don't! Putin's agents put polonium in there!
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Mich-again Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:26:46pm |
I'm gonna go to Starbucks and when I order i'm gonna pretend I have a gun in my vest pocket and order a frappe with a shot of vanilla and whipped cream and a cherry on top. ha
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:27:27pm |
re: #309 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
No, don't! Putin's agents put polonium in there!
I should get drunk. Not feeling it yet.
//
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Kronocide Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:28:41pm |
re: #305 Slumbering Behemoth
The only people who like Starbucks' coffee are the ones who buy that overly sugared, flavored crap. I don't.
I like the convenience of a decent cup of joe. But when I stay home it's the press, sometimes with friend's coffee they grew or roasted.
But what I meant to say was the Black Keys are epic. Their Pandora station just kicks ass.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:29:03pm |
re: #300 Slumbering Behemoth
Much as I would like to...
1) I don't like their product.
2) I don't have any $2 bills.
3) I'm too cursedly frugal to buy brewed coffee when I can brew at home.They'll have to be content with the fact that I support them in spirit, if not financially.
1. Try their breakfast sandwiches. They're quite good.
2. You can get them at the bank tomorrow.
3. Then don't get coffee. Starbucks sells other things. Get an orange juice.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:29:15pm |
re: #310 Mich-again
You'd have to be packing for real if you wanted me to make something like that and call it "coffee".
/
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:29:18pm |
re: #311 Gus
I should get drunk. Not feeling it yet.
//
Some people are immune. They don't die, just grow tentacles.
Have you had any strange bumps lately?
//
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:31:15pm |
re: #315 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
Some people are immune. They don't die, just grow tentacles.
Have you had any strange bumps lately?
//
Argh. Don't ask. I'm probably about 5 years behind everything.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:31:29pm |
re: #313 Dark_Falcon
Tell you what... you spend $4. $2 in my honor, and I'll get you back next time you're in town.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:33:15pm |
re: #313 Dark_Falcon
Music Reviewer on the Internet I watch was ticked that Lady Antebellum got the "Best Country Album" award.
Lady Antebellum is decent but every single song on "Speak Now" got onto the Billboard Top 100. Even those not released as singles.
Taylor Swift>Lady Antebellum
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EdDantes Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:33:33pm |
We are on a three hour delay here on the left coast, so I'm seeing the grammys after many of you. IMO most of the music sucked. The only thing that saved this broadcast was the Beach Boys. It is unlikely we will ever see Brian Wilson with the other surviving members of the best American rock group of all time. I knew some of the Beach Boys would be there but I never thought Brian would participate. Good vibrations.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:34:22pm |
re: #319 EdDantes
We are on a three hour delay here on the left coast, so I'm seeing the grammys after many of you. IMO most of the music sucked. The only thing that saved this broadcast was the Beach Boys. It is unlikely we will ever see Brian Wilson with the other surviving members of the best American rock group of all time. I knew some of the Beach Boys would be there but I never thought Brian would participate. Good vibrations.
I think I would characterize the Beach Boys as pop, not rock.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:34:36pm |
re: #318 ProGunLiberal
I get the impression that you're a fan of that Taylor Swift feller.
////
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:34:52pm |
Whew. Between CPAC, the Whitney Houston/Fox News comments, the contraception craziness, the "knickers" rap video... brb gonna fill up the glass.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:35:46pm |
re: #322 Gus
If you need an excuse to drink, ur doin it rong.
///
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:35:50pm |
re: #321 Slumbering Behemoth
I get the impression that you're a fan of that Taylor Swift feller.
///
Anyway, who's Taylor Swift? I guess I should look that up in wiki.
/I'm serious btw.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:36:08pm |
re: #321 Slumbering Behemoth
One of my Top 5.
The other 4 are Trans-Siberian Orchestra, Nightwish, Queen, and Bon Jovi.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:36:12pm |
re: #308 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow
Heh. In a country where it's okay to throw texters out of movie theatres, it's not okay to ask that gun carriers leave their pieces in the car.
That's not it at all: The gun-banners I wrote about want Starbucks boycotted for not telling "gun carriers [to] leave their pieces in the car". That's not asking someone to do something, that's demanding someone stop someone else from doing something. That's a very different kettle of fish.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:36:53pm |
"is an American country pop singer-songwriter, musician and actress".
Oh-kay.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:36:57pm |
re: #324 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
Anyway, who's Taylor Swift? I guess I should look that up in wiki.
/I'm serious btw.
SMACK!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:37:44pm |
re: #325 ProGunLiberal
One of my Top 5.
The other 4 are Trans-Siberian Orchestra, Nightwish, Queen, and Bon Jovi.
What's the best of Nightwish?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:38:15pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:39:18pm |
re: #330 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
I don't listen to country!
I knew it, you are Putin!
/lame joke about broken english...
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:40:15pm |
re: #332 Slumbering Behemoth
I knew it, you are Putin!
/lame joke about broken english...
Do you prefer hot tea or an umbrella?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:40:32pm |
Allison Krauss and Union Station won for bluegrass. Yeah, I know, only I care. I would have hated to go up against her. Chris Thile had an album, but I bet he knew he would lose to his old mentor.
This brings her to a total of 26 Grammys. That is not a typo.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:40:48pm |
re: #329 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
I can't decide between Dark Passion Play and Imaginarium album-wise. They are both Fantastic.
Song-wise, either Storytime from Imaginarium, or Seven Days to the Wolves from Dark Passion Play.
I like Anette better as the singer. Because I can understand the lyrics better.
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:43:01pm |
re: #326 Dark_Falcon
That's not it at all: The gun-banners I wrote about want Starbucks boycotted for not telling "gun carriers [to] leave their pieces in the car". That's not asking someone to do something, that's demanding someone stop someone else from doing something. That's a very different kettle of fish.
What if the "gun banners" were simply asking Starbucks politely to ask customers to leave their firearms in their cars, rather than staging a boycott? Would you have a problem with that?
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:43:57pm |
re: #326 Dark_Falcon
Hrm. Well okay, that is different.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:44:05pm |
re: #325 ProGunLiberal
One of my Top 5.
The other 4 are Trans-Siberian Orchestra, Nightwish, Queen, and Bon Jovi.
aka Savatage
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:45:31pm |
re: #333 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
I demand execution by Ivana Humpalot!
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Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:46:14pm |
re: #339 Slumbering Behemoth
I demand execution by Ivana Humpalot!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:46:18pm |
I like maybe only 10 things by TSO, and most of them are classic covers, like the dance of the Mountain King. Otherwise it seems a bit monotonous.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:46:30pm |
re: #338 windupbird is in the gravity well
I am aware of that.
From them, my favorite album would have to be Nightcastle.
But my favorite song is "This is Who You Are" from Beethoven's Last Night.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:47:56pm |
re: #339 Slumbering Behemoth
I demand execution by Ivana Humpalot!
Sorry, reserved for British spies with bad teeth.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:49:00pm |
And, or you guys here who lived and liked the 70's and 80's, I have this.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:51:00pm |
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:52:00pm |
re: #336 palomino
What if the "gun banners" were simply asking Starbucks politely to ask customers to leave their firearms in their cars, rather than staging a boycott? Would you have a problem with that?
Why Starbucks instead of say McDonalds or Pinkberry? This is the part I don't quite get, why they're being singled out. In most states that issue them a legal concealed carry permit is presumed valid in such a non-alcohol serving public establishments unless the owner puts up signage specifically barring all weapons from the premises. Most chains aren't going to want to clutter up their storefronts with unnecessary signage, especially when the people supposedly carrying weapons are carrying them concealed and legally.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:52:23pm |
re: #336 palomino
What if the "gun banners" were simply asking Starbucks politely to ask customers to leave their firearms in their cars, rather than staging a boycott? Would you have a problem with that?
Not really, though I'd expect them to respect Starbucks' decision. And at first they did ask, and Starbucks politely told them 'no'. So then they issued a demand and mounted several protests, whereupon Starbucks made clear they did not take a position on guns but simply did not consider customers exercising concealed carry in their establishments. So then the gun-banners called for the boycott. So your scenario has in fact already happened and the result was escalation by the anti-gun crowd. They're sore about losing the Heller and MacDonald cases before the Supreme Court and so are seeking to push private businesses into not allowing guns. This is not some nasty action by the right-wing: It's a nasty action by the left-wing that is drawing a non-nasty right-wing response.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:53:36pm |
re: #343 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
Sorry, reserved for British spies with bad teeth.
The Baroness, then? Please?
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Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:53:59pm |
re: #348 Dark_Falcon
Not really, though I'd expect them to respect Starbucks' decision. And at first they did ask, and Starbucks politely told them 'no'. So then they issued a demand and mounted several protests, whereupon Starbucks made clear they did not take a position on guns but simply did not consider customers exercising concealed carry in their establishments. So then the gun-banners called for the boycott. So your scenario has in fact already happened and the result was escalation by the anti-gun crowd. They're sore about losing the Heller and MacDonald cases before the Supreme Court and so are seeking to push private businesses into not allowing guns. This is not some nasty action by the right-wing: It's a nasty action by the left-wing that is drawing a non-nasty right-wing response.
And yet, I can't carry my lightsaber.
WTF???
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:54:19pm |
re: #296 Dark_Falcon
I need to move away from music music for a moment to post something I've been meaning to mention:
A group of gun-banners called the "National Gun Victims Action Council" has called for a boycott of Starbucks on Valentine's Day, as Starbucks does not prohibit people holding a valid concealed carry permit from bringing their firearm into a Starbucks in areas where that is legal. In reply, a "Buycott" counter-plan is being promoted. The idea is to buy something from Starbucks on the 14th using $2 bills (2 for the 2nd Amendment and also because the reverse side of the bill contains a picture of the signing of the Declaration of Independence). I support the Buycott and urge my fellow lizards to join me on Tuesday in telling the gun-grabbers off!
OK. What's the deal. That site's almost, normal. Saw a couple of threads related to Obama (getting OBL and repealing the CC in parks) and didn't see any of the usual anti-Obama weirdness. As far as Starbucks allowing people with CC in places where CC is legal I think that's up to them. I mean, if it's legal it's not like they're doing anything unusual in their neighborhood. If they can legally decide not to allow it then that would be their option as well. It's not Starbuck's "fault" if people are allowed to enter stores with guns. That's just the way the laws are written.
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Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:55:12pm |
re: #351 Gus
OK. What's the deal. That site's almost, normal. Saw a couple of threads related to Obama (getting OBL and repealing the CC in parks) and didn't see any of the usual anti-Obama weirdness. As far as Starbucks allowing people with CC in places where CC is legal I think that's up to them. I mean, if it's legal it's not like they're doing anything unusual in their neighborhood. If they can legally decide not to allow it then that would be their option as well. It's not Starbuck's "fault" if people are allowed to enter stores with guns. That's just the way the laws are written.
If they're gonna protest, they should protest the ones who passed the laws.
Not Starbucks.
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:55:34pm |
re: #352 Varek Raith
If they're gonna protest, they should protest the ones who passed the laws.
Not Starbucks.
Right.
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:56:40pm |
re: #352 Varek Raith
If they're gonna protest, they should protest the ones who passed the laws.
Not Starbucks.
And say you had a coffee shop in, I don't know. Gunnut, North Dakota or something. You think you'd be telling people, "sorry, no guns." Erm, uh. How long would your business last?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:56:50pm |
re: #350 Varek Raith
And yet, I can't carry my lightsaber.
WTF???
It's your own fault for that time you gutted the three Gammoreans in the Quiznos for insulting your ship.
Should have known better.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:57:12pm |
re: #348 Dark_Falcon
So then they issued a demand and mounted several protests, whereupon Starbucks made clear they did not take a position on guns but simply did not consider customers exercising concealed carry in their establishments. So then the gun-banners called for the boycott.
SBUX has a very good reason not to want to put up signs banning guns at the entrance to all their stores, it suggests the presence of firearms and plants the idea in the mind of the customer. You walk in, see that sign and the first thing you think is, "Shit, they must have a real problem with gun crime here, why else would they feel the need to put up such a sign." Suddenly the customer doesn't feel safe anymore and business drops off.
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:57:49pm |
And again. Something I've said a billion times before. If some nut is going to go psycho it won't matter what the CC laws are. They're going to go psycho regardless.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:57:57pm |
re: #332 Slumbering Behemoth
I knew it, you are Putin!
/lame joke about broken english...
If he were Putin, he'd like this:
Seriously, Vladimir Putin is an ABBA fan.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:58:15pm |
re: #350 Varek Raith
And yet, I can't carry my lightsaber.
WTF???
You're an evil galactic overlord, or something, no? Who can stop you? That is, unless your father smelled of elderberries.
//
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:58:38pm |
re: #346 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
A blind Vampiress with a sneeze fetish? Hmm... not my usual thing, but I can work with that. Deal.
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 9:59:02pm |
OK, let's go hold up this bank!
Are you sure Joe? Guns aren't legal in this town.
Hmmm. You're right Tony. Let's go hold up a bank in a town where guns are legal!
//
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:00:20pm |
re: #356 goddamnedfrank
SBUX has a very good reason not to want to put up signs banning guns at the entrance to all their stores, it suggests the presence of firearms and plants the idea in the mind of the customer. You walk in, see that sign and the first thing you think is, "Shit, they must have a real problem with gun crime here, why else would they feel the need to put up such a sign." Suddenly the customer doesn't feel safe anymore and business drops off.
Thank you for that, Frank. I had not thought of that. Though that could also be part of the point for the anti-gun people: To promote "scary gun" images. Anti-gun groups have done that in the past.
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Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:00:37pm |
re: #359 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
You're an evil galactic overlord, or something, no? Who can stop you? That is, unless your father smelled of elderberries.
//
Consider you species extinct!
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:01:38pm |
re: #348 Dark_Falcon
Not really, though I'd expect them to respect Starbucks' decision. And at first they did ask, and Starbucks politely told them 'no'. So then they issued a demand and mounted several protests, whereupon Starbucks made clear they did not take a position on guns but simply did not consider customers exercising concealed carry in their establishments. So then the gun-banners called for the boycott. So your scenario has in fact already happened and the result was escalation by the anti-gun crowd. They're sore about losing the Heller and MacDonald cases before the Supreme Court and so are seeking to push private businesses into not allowing guns. This is not some nasty action by the right-wing: It's a nasty action by the left-wing that is drawing a non-nasty right-wing response.
You may not agree with the "gun banners" concerns about open carry violence, but their actions are hardly "nasty." A one day boycott of Starbucks? Big deal. MBF fail.
It's certainly nothing like boycotting a store permanently because one of its spokespeople is a lesbian.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:02:14pm |
re: #350 Varek Raith
And yet, I can't carry my lightsaber.
WTF???
You're a known quantity, and not in a good way. No one wants you carrying a lightsaber anywhere, Sith.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:02:20pm |
re: #363 Varek Raith
Consider you species extinct!
Will 1 hour be enough, or shall I taunt you some more?
//
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:02:40pm |
re: #364 palomino
You may not agree with the "gun banners" concerns about open carry violence, but their actions are hardly "nasty." A one day boycott of Starbucks? Big deal. MBF fail.
It's certainly nothing like boycotting a store permanently because one of its spokespeople is a lesbian.
Well that's not a big deal either. They're both right to a certain extent.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:03:25pm |
re: #351 Gus
OK. What's the deal. That site's almost, normal. Saw a couple of threads related to Obama (getting OBL and repealing the CC in parks) and didn't see any of the usual anti-Obama weirdness. As far as Starbucks allowing people with CC in places where CC is legal I think that's up to them. I mean, if it's legal it's not like they're doing anything unusual in their neighborhood. If they can legally decide not to allow it then that would be their option as well. It's not Starbuck's "fault" if people are allowed to enter stores with guns. That's just the way the laws are written.
It's Tactical is devoted to practical issues and is more interested in talking about gear than bashing Obama. It's not a political site, and it seeks to be seen as sane (which from my observation it is), an image it would lose if it spewed Bad Craziness.
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:03:55pm |
Still. Tony Soprano isn't going to walk up to a Starbucks and after seeing a sign that says, NO GUNS, and turn around and tell the rest of his boys, "OK guys we better leave are pieces in the car.
//
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:05:38pm |
re: #347 goddamnedfrank
Why Starbucks instead of say McDonalds or Pinkberry? This is the part I don't quite get, why they're being singled out. In most states that issue them a legal concealed carry permit is presumed valid in such a non-alcohol serving public establishments unless the owner puts up signage specifically barring all weapons from the premises. Most chains aren't going to want to clutter up their storefronts with unnecessary signage, especially when the people supposedly carrying weapons are carrying them concealed and legally.
I agree it seems arbitrary. But if you think about the demo that likely frequents Starbucks, it's probably less pro-gun than McDonalds. Also, Starbucks now covers about 10% of the earth's surface, so you don't have to travel far. I used to live in a part of LA where there were 5 Starbucks within a one mile radius.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:06:09pm |
re: #364 palomino
You may not agree with the "gun banners" concerns about open carry violence, but their actions are hardly "nasty." A one day boycott of Starbucks? Big deal. MBF fail.
It's certainly nothing like boycotting a store permanently because one of its spokespeople is a lesbian.
You can't call an MBF fail while invoking an MBF. Okay, I guess you can, but those two things are not related.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:07:20pm |
re: #371 palomino
There are TWO Starbucks on campus, less than a half mile from each other.
Also, Taylor Swift is trending on Twitter.
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:08:17pm |
re: #372 Slumbering Behemoth
You can't call an MBF fail while invoking an MBF. Okay, I guess you can, but those two things are not related.
I didn't invoke the MBF. DF did with his original post...see the last part.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:09:46pm |
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:09:51pm |
re: #362 Dark_Falcon
Thank you for that, Frank. I had not thought of that. Though that could also be part of the point for the anti-gun people: To promote "scary gun" images. Anti-gun groups have done that in the past.
My ex wife used to work at the Astor Place Starbucks in Manhattan, one the busiest if not the busiest store in the entire chain. They had a real problem with junkies shooting up in the bathroom. What they didn't do was put up a sign saying "No hypodermic needles allowed." They were just really careful about cleaning the bathrooms and educated their employees to be on the lookout for suspicious behavior.
Even when a business is dealing with a legitimate issue (and CC permit holders in stores just isn't one) often the least productive course of action from a business standpoint is to make their customers mindful of it.
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:10:43pm |
re: #367 Gus
Well that's not a big deal either. They're both right to a certain extent.
But one act of bigotry lasts a day. The other is planned to last forever, or at least until JCPenney goes back to pretending like lesbians don't exist, so that homophobes won't feel uncomfortable walking through a JCP.
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Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:10:46pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:11:36pm |
re: #375 palomino
I didn't invoke the MBF. DF did with his original post...see the last part.
You MBFed by posing a right-wing protest against a left-wing protest.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:12:25pm |
re: #379 Varek Raith
They must be, 'cuz that went right over my head.
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Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:12:48pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:13:19pm |
Not related to anything here: there's a fine, but real line between a MBF and a call for consistency. Sometimes the latter is branded as the former.
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Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:13:21pm |
re: #378 palomino
But one act of bigotry lasts a day. The other is planned to last forever, or at least until JCPenney goes back to pretending like lesbians don't exist, so that homophobes won't feel uncomfortable walking through a JCP.
That site seemed pretty normal as far as gun sites are concerned. Didn't see any ad hominems or the usual wingnut talk.
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Big Joe Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:13:31pm |
We have 3 Starbucks within 1 block of each other, and a Peet's a block and a half away. Peet's is the crystal meth of coffee.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:13:51pm |
re: #374 Varek Raith
Starbucks.
[Link: comedians.jokes.com...]
Ha. I get your other post now. Never mind.
t("t)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:15:21pm |
re: #383 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
Well, if I fucked that up, I'd expect you to call me on it.
| 388 |
Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:15:24pm |
What are you going to put in your shrimp cocktails, jackass?!?!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:16:15pm |
re: #387 Slumbering Behemoth
Well, if I fucked that up, I'd expect you to call me on it.
As I said, not related, except for a mention of MBF. I'm sooo not reading the CC discussion ;)
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ReamWorks SKG Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:17:37pm |
Dr. Atomic won the "Opera" category. Meh.
But the real abomination is Eric Whitacre winning for Light & Gold (Choral). Maybe the Mayans were right about 2012.
| 391 |
Gus Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:17:54pm |
You know. It wasn't like they said...
We must stop this Obama Marxist war against legal gun ownership and stop this left-wing moonbat hippie rapey-stabby organization from legally entering Starbucks with are guns. We thus call a buycott to stop the Tranzi progressives from taking away our gunzz! Chuckles and his Peronist ringleader Gus802 fail againz!!11ty
| 392 |
palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:19:34pm |
re: #380 Slumbering Behemoth
You MBFed by posing a right-wing protest against a left-wing protest.
When someone argues on cultural issues, as DF did, that there are really bad people on both sides, so don't blame the right any more than the left, I'm sorry, but a correction is in order. When he referred to "similar nastiness" on the right, I thought of JCP since it's by far the most high profile right-wing boycott in quite a while. And yet, the degree of nastiness is nowhere near equivalent. Asking someone to keep their gun in their car doesn't quite rise to the level of demonizing 15 million gay Americans.
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:20:38pm |
re: #384 Gus
That site seemed pretty normal as far as gun sites are concerned. Didn't see any ad hominems or the usual wingnut talk.
You'd admit we're not talking about a very high bar here, right?
| 394 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:22:25pm |
re: #392 palomino
I'm sorry, I see what you're talking about now. I skimmed right over that one.
Point = Palomino.
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:23:22pm |
re: #394 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm sorry, I see what you're talking about now. I skimmed right over that one.
Point = Palomino.
Thanks man.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:24:15pm |
re: #393 palomino
Careful. There are plenty of lefty gun owners/enthusiasts out there. And in here.
| 397 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:25:01pm |
(س("س Y U NO FUN?
| 398 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:25:04pm |
re: #327 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
"is an American country pop singer-songwriter, musician and actress".
Oh-kay.
Pretty twenty-something pop singer.
Many of my students are fans. So is ProLifeLiberal, I believe.
| 399 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:26:23pm |
re: #397 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
Y U NO PAY?
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:27:32pm |
I made the mistake of buying a membership to the 2nd Amendment Foundation last year. There's a local kitchen table FFL here that gives a hefty discount on his fee to receive firearms from out of state if you have a membership to a gun rights organization and I thought what the hell. Now I get a hefty dose of crackpot right wing propaganda at least once a week, from either them, the NRA or some other goofball org wanting me to be very, very afraid that President Obama is going to confiscate mah shootin' irons. So fucking lame.
| 401 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:29:41pm |
re: #375 palomino
I didn't invoke the MBF. DF did with his original post...see the last part.
My #296 contains no Magical Balance Fairy incantations.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:29:46pm |
re: #400 goddamnedfrank
I can't tell you the number of guns I have that were supposed to be taken away by Democratic POTUSes.
/Really, I can't. I don't have any.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:30:17pm |
| 404 |
Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:31:21pm |
re: #403 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
I pay strictly in Rolling Stones.
That's some big moola.
| 405 |
palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:32:32pm |
re: #396 Slumbering Behemoth
Careful. There are plenty of lefty gun owners/enthusiasts out there. And in here.
I'm not a "gun banner," as DF would call them. (Where did that term come from...it sounds Limbaugh-esque.) I grew up around guns, and most of the people in my family own firearms.
I may not be a "lifelong hunter" like Mitt Romney...But I know how to shoot. Many Texans would call me a pussy because I preferred trap and skeet shooting to actually killing stuff (just don't see the sport in it, hate bullfighting too).
Anyway I don't think there's anything wrong with background checks, waiting periods, etc...doesn't seem like an unconstitutional intrusion to make getting a gun as hard as getting a drivers license.
| 406 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:32:51pm |
re: #404 Varek Raith
Sergey definitely comes from Old Money.
| 407 |
palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:33:05pm |
re: #401 Dark_Falcon
My #296 contains no Magical Balance Fairy incantations.
You're right, your MBF came later.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:33:38pm |
re: #402 Slumbering Behemoth
I can't tell you the number of guns I have that were supposed to be taken away by Democratic POTUSes.
/Really, I can't. I don't have any.
That's because they took them all, duh. If there were no Democrats everyone would have a couple of suitcase nukes and a 66 megajoule railgun for duck hunting.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:33:41pm |
re: #406 Slumbering Behemoth
Sergey definitely comes from Old Money.
Wait..isn't Sergey from the former Soviet Union? How can anyone there be old money?
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Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:35:01pm |
re: #408 goddamnedfrank
That's because they took them all, duh. If there were no Democrats everyone would have a couple of suitcase nukes and a 66 megajoule railgun for duck hunting.
I have a 1 exawatt laser.
For squirrel hunting.
| 411 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:35:12pm |
re: #409 Ooh, look, shiny...
Wait..isn't Sergey from the former Soviet Union? How can anyone there be old money?
Hidden for 70 years...
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:35:49pm |
re: #410 Varek Raith
I have a 1 exawatt laser.
For squirrel hunting.
How's the species elimination proceeding?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:35:52pm |
re: #405 palomino
I'd like to go hunting, just to learn the skills involved. Would totally suck balls if I got stranded somewhere remote. Unlikely, but I also have a Zombie Plan, so sue me.
I also agree that background checks are reasonable. Unreasonable ammo taxes are total ass, though.
| 414 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:36:39pm |
From SANE people on Twitter: I didn't know they gave a #Grammy for punching your girlfriend. #chrisbrown!
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:37:18pm |
re: #402 Slumbering Behemoth
I can't tell you the number of guns I have that were supposed to be taken away by Democratic POTUSes.
/Really, I can't. I don't have any.
Gun and ammo sales went through the roof after Obama's election, so powerful was the insane rhetoric that he was somehow going to singlehandedly confiscate everyone's firearms.
Here's an MBF for everyone: I didn't believe it when I constantly heard that W was trying to control every aspect of my life, and I sure as hell don't believe it now when it's said about Obama. Can anyone tell me how their life is being controlled in any way by Obama? And yet Beck thrives on repeating that mantra daily to people whose lives are the same now as 4 years ago.
| 416 |
ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:37:43pm |
re: #414 SanFranciscoZionist
Exactly what I want to hear.
Personally, I kinda wish somebody would deck that woman-beating pig.
| 417 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:37:46pm |
re: #409 Ooh, look, shiny...
I just assumed. I mean, he's got a bank roll large enough to choke a whale.
| 418 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:38:42pm |
re: #417 Slumbering Behemoth
I just assumed. I mean, he's got a bank roll large enough to choke a whale.
You... I...
Ѡ
| 419 |
goddamnedfrank Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:38:50pm |
re: #410 Varek Raith
I have a 1 exawatt laser.
For squirrel hunting.
I have a Vogon poet laureate that I use to shorten my wait time at the DMV.
| 420 |
ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:39:21pm |
re: #418 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
Why do I see a butt your response?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:40:32pm |
re: #415 palomino
Can anyone tell me how their life is being controlled in any way by Obama?
I'm no longer allowed to wear knickers in public?
/fuck that crowder bastard
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:41:28pm |
re: #420 ProGunLiberal
Why do I see a butt your response?
He's got money coming out of the wazzooo. Poor bastard, have you seen the size of his currency?
| 423 |
Kragar Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:42:07pm |
re: #421 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm no longer allowed to wear knickers in public?
/fuck that crowder bastard
I believe you spell Knickers niqqers nowadays.
/
| 424 |
Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:43:58pm |
Anyone know where I can find a breakdown of NATO forces by country?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:44:23pm |
re: #392 palomino
When someone argues on cultural issues, as DF did, that there are really bad people on both sides, so don't blame the right any more than the left, I'm sorry, but a correction is in order. When he referred to "similar nastiness" on the right, I thought of JCP since it's by far the most high profile right-wing boycott in quite a while. And yet, the degree of nastiness is nowhere near equivalent. Asking someone to keep their gun in their car doesn't quite rise to the level of demonizing 15 million gay Americans.
There's that phrasing again: "Asking someone to keep their gun in their car". That's NOT what this is about, for the second time. This is about an organization saying to Starbucks "We don't think you should allow concealed firearms in your stores" and after being repeatedly told "Thank you, but we've decided to keep our current policy" has decided to boycott Starbuck for refusing to require law-abiding CCW permit holders to not bring in their weapon. This is not about "asking", and that needs to be clear.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:44:24pm |
re: #424 Varek Raith
Anyone know where I can find a breakdown of NATO forces by country?
[Link: www.nato.int...]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:44:30pm |
re: #424 Varek Raith
Anyone know where I can find a breakdown of NATO forces by country?
Too late, 1 hour has passed. You failed!
/
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:44:44pm |
re: #414 SanFranciscoZionist
The perfect musical response to Chris Brown:
The F-Bomb for the Whole Family!!
| 429 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:45:00pm |
re: #423 Kragar
Hey! Those were libtard trolls! What? What do you mean "why did you leave those comments standing"? What do you mean "What about all the "Likes"?
I... just... Look! Over there! a Liberal Plant!!!
| 430 |
ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:47:02pm |
What does the LED Backlight on a Monitor do?
| 431 |
Kragar Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:47:32pm |
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:48:12pm |
re: #431 Kragar
I'd appreciate more specific-ness.
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:48:17pm |
re: #413 Slumbering Behemoth
I'd like to go hunting, just to learn the skills involved. Would totally suck balls if I got stranded somewhere remote. Unlikely, but I also have a Zombie Plan, so sue me.
I also agree that background checks are reasonable. Unreasonable ammo taxes are total ass, though.
I shot a squirrel when I was 10. Just one shot, it died almost immediately. But I'll never forget the bloodcurdling shriek the animal made just as it got hit. Decided I didn't want to ever hear that sound again. I just thought, "What the hell was the point of that?"
OTOH, if I lived up in the hills of Tennessee with Jed and Ellie Mae, killing varmints would make sense. It would be food and clothing, not just a selfish thrill.
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Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:49:14pm |
re: #430 ProGunLiberal
What does the LED Backlight on a Monitor do?
LCD's do not produce light themselves like a CRT does.
Hence, the need for a backlight.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:50:07pm |
re: #434 Varek Raith
I see some LCD monitors without them.
Assume that those aren't worth looking at.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:50:13pm |
re: #430 ProGunLiberal
What does the LED Backlight on a Monitor do?
It slowly replaces your soul with an imperceptible, ethereal, radioactive substance.
On the down side? No soul.
On the up side? No eternal torment, and maybe Spider-Man powers. Porn hunting, Spider-Man powers.
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:50:40pm |
re: #421 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm no longer allowed to wear knickers in public?
/fuck that crowder bastard
The guy thinks he's a right wing George Carlin/Jon Stewart. Maybe there's one out there, but it's not Crowder.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:51:13pm |
re: #430 ProGunLiberal
What does the LED Backlight on a Monitor do?
Just an alternative to cold cathodes. Another way to light up the screen. Thinner and more energy efficient.
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Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:54:00pm |
I can't stand LCDs without lighting.
You can turn down the brightness in the monitor menu (usually).
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:54:58pm |
re: #433 palomino
Killing animals for fun is not on my list of things to do. But if I did go hunting, it would be for a purpose. Either for balancing, or using that beast in a way that befits true hunting.
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Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:56:40pm |
re: #440 Slumbering Behemoth
Killing animals for fun is not on my list of things to do. But if I did go hunting, it would be for a purpose. Either for balancing, or using that beast in a way that befits true hunting.
Look! A bunny!
FUS RO DAH!!!
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:56:42pm |
re: #435 ProGunLiberal
I see some LCD monitors without them.
Assume that those aren't worth looking at.
Not neccessarily. LEDs generally cost more per inch. It's more noticeable the bigger you get.
Get your minds out of the gutter.
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Varek Raith Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:58:01pm |
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Kragar Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:00:43pm |
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:03:16pm |
re: #425 Dark_Falcon
There's that phrasing again: "Asking someone to keep their gun in their car". That's NOT what this is about, for the second time. This is about an organization saying to Starbucks "We don't think you should allow concealed firearms in your stores" and after being repeatedly told "Thank you, but we've decided to keep our current policy" has decided to boycott Starbuck for refusing to require law-abiding CCW permit holders to not bring in their weapon. This is not about "asking", and that needs to be clear.
OK, the protesters are not "asking", they're "demanding", or they're "demanding that Starbucks demand...", except that they really are asking because they're in no position to demand anything of a private corp. So what you're really upset about is that they're asking impolitely, in the form of a one-day boycott.
And MY point is that a one-day boycott is nothing to get worked up over. It's a pretty mild form of democratic protest. It's hardly the "nastiness" that you described above.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:07:21pm |
re: #445 palomino
OK, the protesters are not "asking", they're "demanding", or they're "demanding that Starbucks demand...", except that they really are asking because they're in no position to demand anything of a private corp. So what you're really upset about is that they're asking impolitely, in the form of a one-day boycott.
And MY point is that a one-day boycott is nothing to get worked up over. It's a pretty mild form of democratic protest. It's hardly the "nastiness" that you described above.
I'm not worked up about it. I'm not going to rant or rave, I'm just going to make a counter-protest statement by buying from Starbucks on Tuesday with $2 bills. And that's all that is being proposed by me: No calls to "fight leftist oligarhy", just a call to stage an appropriate and non-confrontational counter protest.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:07:40pm |
re: #445 palomino
OK, the protesters are not "asking", they're "demanding", or they're "demanding that Starbucks demand...", except that they really are asking because they're in no position to demand anything of a private corp. So what you're really upset about is that they're asking impolitely, in the form of a one-day boycott.
And MY point is that a one-day boycott is nothing to get worked up over. It's a pretty mild form of democratic protest. It's hardly the "nastiness" that you described above.
It certainly doesn't rise to the level of the anti woman's rights, anti science and anti gay bigotry proudly displayed by the GOP. I just wish that the gun control advocates would realize how counter productive their shit is in the current environment and take a goddamned powder.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:10:17pm |
Starbucks would have to pay me to drink that "coffee."
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:10:21pm |
re: #447 goddamnedfrank
It certainly doesn't rise to the level of the anti woman's rights, anti science and anti gay bigotry proudly displayed by the GOP. I just wish that the gun control advocates would realize how counter productive their shit is in the current environment and take a goddamned powder.
Again, thank you Frank. Said well and fairly. And with that I'm going to bed. Goodnight, all.
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:10:24pm |
re: #440 Slumbering Behemoth
Killing animals for fun is not on my list of things to do. But if I did go hunting, it would be for a purpose. Either for balancing, or using that beast in a way that befits true hunting.
As long as there's a reason and you're not killing anything endangered, I'd be a total hypocrite to complain. Among other things, I eat meat and wear leather.
Had a friend in middle school whose family's house had a "safari room," filled with heads and other body parts (many used creatively to make furniture) of animals they bagged in Africa. Seemed really cool at the time.
35 years later the whole thing seems kinda grotesque, as most of those species (the elephants, rhinos, lions at least) are off limits due to their endangered status.
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:13:59pm |
re: #446 Dark_Falcon
I'm not worked up about it. I'm not going to rant or rave, I'm just going to make a counter-protest statement by buying from Starbucks on Tuesday with $2 bills. And that's all that is being proposed by me: No calls to "fight leftist oligarhy", just a call to stage an appropriate and non-confrontational counter protest.
I haven't seen a 2-dollar bill in circulation in years. Are you actually gonna go to the bank and get 2-dollar bills specifically so you can stand in solidarity with the 8 or 9 Americans who, for whatever reason, want to take a gun into a Starbucks?
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:20:22pm |
re: #447 goddamnedfrank
It certainly doesn't rise to the level of the anti woman's rights, anti science and anti gay bigotry proudly displayed by the GOP. I just wish that the gun control advocates would realize how counter productive their shit is in the current environment and take a goddamned powder.
Actually the gun control advocates (a fair term, as opposed to "gun banners") haven't been on the mainstream news radar much over the last few years. Partly because the left in Congress isn't really all that left; and partly because the Dems cut their losses on the issue; and partly because crime rates are down so much that gun proliferation is less of a concern. And partly etc. etc.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:20:57pm |
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Lidane Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:24:43pm |
re: #452 palomino
Partly because the left in Congress isn't really all that left; and partly because the Dems cut their losses on the issue; and partly because crime rates are down so much that gun proliferation is less of a concern. And partly etc. etc.
Exactly.
Gun control was a much bigger issue a long time ago. I can't remember the last time that the elected Dems got all hopped up on gun control laws. Most of the time, I hear arguments for enforcing the laws we have instead of adding new ones.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:25:27pm |
re: #450 palomino
Had a friend in middle school whose family's house had a "safari room," filled with heads and other body parts (many used creatively to make furniture) of animals they bagged in Africa. Seemed really cool at the time.
35 years later the whole thing seems kinda grotesque, as most of those species (the elephants, rhinos, lions at least) are off limits due to their endangered status.
I get where you're coming from, but hunters of ancient time would have done the same. No piece unused nor wasted.
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:29:35pm |
re: #455 Slumbering Behemoth
I get where you're coming from, but hunters of ancient time would have done the same. No piece unused nor wasted.
Times change...I'm sure 100 years earlier, that same family would have owned slaves. Hell, mine might have too. I'd like to think that I could have morally transcended my geography and era, but you gotta be realistic.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:33:13pm |
re: #456 palomino
I'm thinking that if you're gonna hunt, it behooves you (no pun intended) to make use of everything you take. Hunting simply for the sake of trophies, though, is total bullshit.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:34:42pm |
re: #446 Dark_Falcon
I'm not worked up about it. I'm not going to rant or rave, I'm just going to make a counter-protest statement by buying from Starbucks on Tuesday with $2 bills. And that's all that is being proposed by me: No calls to "fight leftist oligarhy", just a call to stage an appropriate and non-confrontational counter protest.
Makes sense. You don't like boycott, you buycott.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:40:49pm |
Is it wrong that I still find Cyndi Lauper hawt?
You know what, forget you. If it's wrong, I don't wanna be right.
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:41:11pm |
re: #457 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm thinking that if you're gonna hunt, it behooves you (no pun intended) to make use of everything you take. Hunting simply for the sake of trophies, though, is total bullshit.
Absolutely. And I think that sympathy for animals is a sign of human progress.
Sorry to blather on about Starbucks, but if one of your friends, let's call him Joe, came up to you and said, "Hey, man, I'm really pissed off because I can't take my gun into Starbucks," what would your response be?
Mine would be, "Dude, why the hell do you wanna take your gun into Starbucks?" What's the threat? The baristas with their piping hot coffee machines? The hyper-caffeinated soccer moms? The coffee mafia? I know it's all about the principle, but sometimes the details override the principle and we get into surreal territory.
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:42:13pm |
re: #459 Slumbering Behemoth
Is it wrong that I still find Cyndi Lauper hawt?
You know what, forget you. If it's wrong, I don't wanna be right.
I'm gonna pretend like I didn't read this post.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:43:32pm |
re: #460 palomino
That's not exactly the argument though, at least as I read it. And there are at least a few professions where CC is not only acceptable, but pretty much expected.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:44:31pm |
re: #455 Slumbering Behemoth
I get where you're coming from, but hunters of ancient time would have done the same. No piece unused nor wasted.
Hunters of ancient times didn't know about extinction.
(According to a Cracked article, the reason North America has no native horses left is that they were DELICIOUS. Also, wild camels? DELICIOUS.)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:44:33pm |
re: #461 palomino
All discussion of CC and boycotts aside, NOW we have a fucking problem!!!
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:46:46pm |
re: #462 Slumbering Behemoth
That's not exactly the argument though, at least as I read it. And there are at least a few professions where CC is not only acceptable, but pretty much expected.
If you gotta carry, you gotta carry...of course.
But for the average Joe the Plumber, why would it cross your mind to take a gun into Starbucks? Unless you carry a gun all the time everywhere you go, which I find kinda strange.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:48:42pm |
re: #465 palomino
If you gotta carry, you gotta carry...of course.
But for the average Joe the Plumber, why would it cross your mind to take a gun into Starbucks? Unless you carry a gun all the time everywhere you go, which I find kinda strange.
If you're legally carrying concealed, why does it matter whether you go into Starbucks or Peets?
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:49:19pm |
re: #464 Slumbering Behemoth
All discussion of CC and boycotts aside, NOW we have a fucking problem!!!
///
I liked her back in the 80's, even that drippy song "Time after Time." But times have changed, and what used to be so cute is now maybe a little, or a lot, less so.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:51:42pm |
re: #465 palomino
Certain professions not related to law enforcement necessitate it. Body guards and diamond transporters come to mind.
I've no interest in denying them their second amendment rights, nor in denying them their right to over-pay for shitty coffee.
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:52:08pm |
re: #466 SanFranciscoZionist
If you're legally carrying concealed, why does it matter whether you go into Starbucks or Peets?
It doesn't, unless Starbucks has a history of more violence than Peet's. I just find it kind of strange that a civilian would think, "Hey, I need to carry a firearm with me wherever I go, all hours of the day or night, including a coffee shop where the most dangerous thing is a burnt tongue from hot coffee."
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:53:04pm |
re: #467 palomino
Oh for fuck's sake. That does it. I'm dumping salt on your lawn!
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:54:05pm |
re: #469 palomino
It doesn't, unless Starbucks has a history of more violence than Peet's. I just find it kind of strange that a civilian would think, "Hey, I need to carry a firearm with me wherever I go, all hours of the day or night, including a coffee shop where the most dangerous thing is a burnt tongue from hot coffee."
I don't know. Some of those ladies get pretty jittery if their skinny half-caff latte doesn't work out.
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:54:09pm |
re: #468 Slumbering Behemoth
Certain professions not related to law enforcement necessitate it. Body guards and diamond transporters come to mind.
I've no interest in denying them their second amendment rights, nor in denying them their right to over-pay for shitty coffee.
Sure, there are lots of jobs where you might be required to carry. I'm just trying to think of why a sane civilian would think to himself, "I'm going to Starbucks, better lock and load!"
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:54:45pm |
re: #470 Slumbering Behemoth
Oh for fuck's sake. That does it. I'm dumping salt on your lawn!
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It already looks like shit, you'd be wasting your time.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:57:50pm |
re: #472 palomino
Sure, there are lots of jobs where you might be required to carry. I'm just trying to think of why a sane civilian would think to himself, "I'm going to Starbucks, better lock and load!"
Well, the logical take would be that said folk don't "lock and load" just to go to Starbucks, but do so as part of their profession or daily routine.
And in some areas, there is more danger in bringing your laptop to a coffee shop than there is in bringing your side arm.
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palomino Sun, Feb 12, 2012 11:59:20pm |
re: #471 SanFranciscoZionist
I don't know. Some of those ladies get pretty jittery if their skinny half-caff latte doesn't work out.
That's why I can't stand those places. It's not the prices, it's everybody so hopped up--too hyper, too happy, too tense, laughing at everything.
Good night everybody. And please keep your guns at home if you go to Starbucks. Save the firearms for Burger King.
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Altermite Mon, Feb 13, 2012 12:01:04am |
re: #469 palomino
It doesn't, unless Starbucks has a history of more violence than Peet's. I just find it kind of strange that a civilian would think, "Hey, I need to carry a firearm with me wherever I go, all hours of the day or night, including a coffee shop where the most dangerous thing is a burnt tongue from hot coffee."
If my tongue is burnt, I shoot it.
But in all honesty, I get DF's irritation. There might not be a need to carry a gun into a starbucks, but there also isn't much of a need for this sort of nonsense- its obviously mostly to inconvenience gun-owners. And it does seem to fly in the face of 2nd amendment issues at least a bit.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Feb 13, 2012 12:06:24am |
Starbucks patrons just aren't smart enough nor responsible enough to be trusted with firearms.
There. I said it.
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Lidane Mon, Feb 13, 2012 12:07:20am |
re: #472 palomino
Sure, there are lots of jobs where you might be required to carry. I'm just trying to think of why a sane civilian would think to himself, "I'm going to Starbucks, better lock and load!"
The only place I can think of offhand where I don't want guns around, concealed carry or not, is in a bar or club. Guns & alcohol don't mix, and clubs and bars are private property.
If I'm in a coffee shop, guns are the least of my worries. Usually, the pretentious hipsters talking about indie films or the two college girls loudly dissecting another girl's love life are enough.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Feb 13, 2012 12:20:35am |
re: #478 Lidane
Usually, the pretentious hipsters talking about indie films or the two college girls loudly dissecting another girl's love life are enough.
B-b-b-but what if they are carrying firearms? Firearms that... You. Can't. See.
You are insufficiently paranoid about this issue.
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researchok Mon, Feb 13, 2012 1:29:57am |
re: #480 freetoken
Favorited.
Hands down, a top ten selection.
There are re recordings and there are re recordings.
This is right up there.
TY
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 2:20:26am |
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AK-47% Mon, Feb 13, 2012 2:56:57am |
re: #477 Slumbering Behemoth
Starbucks patrons just aren't smart enough nor responsible enough to be trusted with firearms.
There. I said it.
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guns and espresso is a dangerous combination
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:29:07am |
Good Morning Honcos!
Starbucks simply abides by the local gun laws. Why is this a controversy?
Also, Hannibal (the elephant dude, not Lecter) was a loser. If I was wrong he would be named Hannibal Italius and Scipio would only have peanut butter named after him. Discuss.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:38:05am |
re: #487 Boy, You got a panty on your head.
Good Morning Honcos!
Starbucks simply abides by the local gun laws. Why is this a controversy?
Also, Hannibal (the elephant dude, not Lecter) was a loser. If I was wrong he would be named Hannibal Italius and Scipio would only have peanut butter named after him. Discuss.
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You should be punic'ed for that.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:39:24am |
re: #488 Decatur Deb
You should be punic'ed for that.
If you did, it would be a Phyrric victory at best.
//
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:40:22am |
re: #489 Boy, You got a panty on your head.
If you did, it would be a Phyrric victory at best.
//
Always go for the jurgathine.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:44:01am |
The only thing is that a gefilte fish is kind of squishy, so maybe he should change his screen name to Gefiltef**k Racists With A Dreidel
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:48:01am |
re: #459 Slumbering Behemoth
Is it wrong that I still find Cyndi Lauper hawt?
You know what, forget you. If it's wrong, I don't wanna be right.
Very much liked CL--probably the last pop star I did like. We could have gone with her, but the kids gave their souls to Madonna.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:53:54am |
Off to class. Enjoy the day Lizards!
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 13, 2012 4:55:40am |
Got to dress out and open the hoophouse before it cooks all the veggies. It held at 33f against an ambient temp of 23 last night. BBL
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:19:57am |
Morning Lizardim. Supposed to be another mild day here in the wild north country. The sheriff has closed off vehicle access to the lake because the ice is so unstable. I wish the weather would just make up its mind already.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:21:41am |
re: #493 Look At My New Grandbaby!
The only thing is that a gefilte fish is kind of squishy, so maybe he should change his screen name to Gefiltef**k Racists With A Dreidel
First of all, it's not my phrase.
Second, I'm not a sadist ;)
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:29:17am |
re: #498 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
First of all, it's not my phrase.
Second, I'm not a sadist ;)
Who made up that phrase?
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Obdicut Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:29:57am |
re: #487 Boy, You got a panty on your head.
There's no controversy, there's just people who want Starbucks to change their policy. Unless you believe in the absolute right of a person to carry a weapon into a privately-owned business, then it's just between Starbucks and their customers.
And Hannibal was great, but also fucked up a lot.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:33:46am |
re: #499 Look At My New Grandbaby!
Who made up that phrase?
Some conservative blogger in response to "Paleopat" AKA Patrick/Chuck Adkins. I don't remember the name, but am sure it's googlable.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:34:40am |
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:36:07am |
re: #502 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
Here it is:
[Link: www.google.com...]
I'm at work, is that SFW?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:37:26am |
re: #503 Look At My New Grandbaby!
I'm at work, is that SFW?
There's "dreidelfuck" as part of the google search, but otherwise you will just see the results.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:38:06am |
re: #503 Look At My New Grandbaby!
Are you allowed to use Tor at work?
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kirkspencer Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:43:06am |
I read (all?) most of the gun-ban posts in this thread this morning. Thought I'd do some research and answer a couple of hanging questions.
Why Starbucks? Luck of the draw. The organization is small (less than $25,000 income or assets according to their most recent form 990). They wrote to several Big Name companies that are at least superficially liberal, or which have the stereotype of mostly liberal customers. They asked all of them to ban CCW. All said no.
Why at all? a) They want gun ownership to be significantly restricted. b) Because they, or at least the named members, have all lost someone to a shooting incident and think if gun carrying is reduced there will be fewer such deaths in the future.
In both cases above, they're following the path demonstrated by MADD (Mothers against Drunk Driving), which has been somewhat successful (though not as successful as they might wish). Will it work? dunno. The main objective at this point is attention. While the counterdemonstration will probably prevent Starbucks from agreeing, it increases the organization's visibility. Either result is, at this time, a win for the National Gun Victim's (sic) Action Council.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:44:30am |
re: #505 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
Are you allowed to use Tor at work?
I am stuck using IE8, does that answer your question? I was using Firefox and the security admin requested that I should remove it because it's not "approved" software.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:48:05am |
re: #507 Look At My New Grandbaby!
I am stuck using IE8, does that answer your question? I was using Firefox and the security admin requested that I should remove it because it's not "approved" software.
Wait, what? I'm in a bit of disbelief here; a SECURITY admin told you to stop using Firefox and switch to IE?
That guy/girl needs to go.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:48:44am |
re: #508 thedopefishlives
Wait, what? I'm in a bit of disbelief here; a SECURITY admin told you to stop using Firefox and switch to IE?
That guy/girl needs to go.
I know, isn't that Teh Suck?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:48:49am |
re: #507 Look At My New Grandbaby!
I am stuck using IE8, does that answer your question? I was using Firefox and the security admin requested that I should remove it because it's not "approved" software.
Ya, that sucks. Are you allowed USB drives? Because you can use Tor bundle without installation.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:49:39am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:50:22am |
re: #508 thedopefishlives
Wait, what? I'm in a bit of disbelief here; a SECURITY admin told you to stop using Firefox and switch to IE?
That guy/girl needs to go.
At least it's not IE6 *shudder*
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:51:01am |
re: #509 Look At My New Grandbaby!
I know, isn't that Teh Suck?
Not just Teh Suck, it's also stupid. I would trust pretty much any browser in the market over IE as far as security concerns go. I understand the concept of "approved" software and all, but seriously, Internet Exploder has a long and storied history of being the weakest link.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:52:12am |
re: #512 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
At least it's not IE6 *shudder*
I kid you not, the IT department here at the company I'm contracted to was using IE6 up until last year. They offered an "option" of a Firefox install... version 3.5.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:54:15am |
re: #513 thedopefishlives
Not just Teh Suck, it's also stupid. I would trust pretty much any browser in the market over IE as far as security concerns go. I understand the concept of "approved" software and all, but seriously, Internet Exploder has a long and storied history of being the weakest link.
You know what I hate the most about IE8? You can't use Adblock! That means if I go to a site like Huffpo, I have to see all those horrible "weird trick" scam ads!
Who clicks on this shit? They all use the same ad copy, it's all the same scam. FTC shuts one down, and 100 more take its place USING THE SAME FRICKEN KEYWORDS.
I HATE THEM and I'm not even a Dermatologist.
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kirkspencer Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:57:38am |
re: #513 thedopefishlives
Not just Teh Suck, it's also stupid. I would trust pretty much any browser in the market over IE as far as security concerns go. I understand the concept of "approved" software and all, but seriously, Internet Exploder has a long and storied history of being the weakest link.
Actually, while past versions of IE have had (and earned) the weakest link rep, I've been fairly impressed with IE8.
In addition, there are some programs your company may be using that work best (or even only) with IE8.
Finally, by insisting everyone within the company use IE8 for work, the company knows that any web-based material will show consistently for everyone and doesn't have to do the extra hours of ensuring multi-browser compatibility.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 5:58:55am |
re: #516 kirkspencer
Actually, while past versions of IE have had (and earned) the weakest link rep, I've been fairly impressed with IE8.
In addition, there are some programs your company may be using that work best (or even only) with IE8.
Finally, by insisting everyone within the company use IE8 for work, the company knows that any web-based material will show consistently for everyone and doesn't have to do the extra hours of ensuring multi-browser compatibility.
Like I said, I understand the idea of having an approved browser. And I agree that IE8 is light-years ahead of *shudder* IE6 or the marginally-improved IE7. I still don't trust it and I probably never will. Internet Explorer being a core integrated feature of the Windows operating system is just asking for trouble.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:01:04am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:01:38am |
re: #518 Varek Raith
Real men use browsers homemade with VB.
For our data communications class, we had to write a client and server for any one of four protocols: HTTP, FTP, SMTP, or IRC. I only wish the instructor had actually tried to attack them. I can imagine the hilarity that would ensue.
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Varek Raith Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:01:54am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:15:38am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:27:25am |
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:28:08am |
re: #526 thedopefishlives
I think I threw up a little in my mouth.
I almost did that before... no wait that was because of the whisky.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:28:26am |
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:29:05am |
re: #528 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
Why did they wrap themselves in the Soviet flag?
That was my first thought. Then I figured it was their moms' shawls. Or something.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:32:11am |
re: #528 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
Why did they wrap themselves in the Soviet flag?
I have a page up with their web manifesto.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:32:20am |
re: #528 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
Why did they wrap themselves in the Soviet flag?
It was the only thing they had lying around the basement to warm themselves with.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:35:01am |
Lincolnshire Poacher, did you see Shropshire Slasher around? //
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darthstar Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:37:44am |
re: #102 Charles Johnson
Things I've learned from Twitter tonight: Jim Hoft is a Taylor Swift fan.
I'm sure he's just another freakish stalker and not an actual fan...in other words, you probably don't want to see the shrine in his basement.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:37:54am |
re: #533 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
Lincolnshire Poacher, did you see Shropshire Slasher around? //
I spied him heading for your house.
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:39:53am |
re: #536 The Lincolnshire Poacher
I spied him heading for your house.
Don't forget the Chianti and the surgical saw.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:40:01am |
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:42:57am |
re: #540 ggt
Terror Attacks on Two Isreali Embassies thus far.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:49:32am |
re: #400 goddamnedfrank
I made the mistake of buying a membership to the 2nd Amendment Foundation last year. There's a local kitchen table FFL here that gives a hefty discount on his fee to receive firearms from out of state if you have a membership to a gun rights organization and I thought what the hell. Now I get a hefty dose of crackpot right wing propaganda at least once a week, from either them, the NRA or some other goofball org wanting me to be very, very afraid that President Obama is going to confiscate mah shootin' irons. So fucking lame.
While I agree with your statement about the propaganda, the administration isn't helping the situation too much.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:53:26am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:53:47am |
re: #472 palomino
Sure, there are lots of jobs where you might be required to carry. I'm just trying to think of why a sane civilian would think to himself, "I'm going to Starbucks, better lock and load!"
Ever been to Detroit?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:54:37am |
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kirkspencer Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:56:33am |
May make a page, but here's a drive-by bit of news that may interest a few. DoD is making more positions open to women.
The "co-location" rule is being eliminated, and some battalion level positions in direct combat ground units (in already authorized specialties) are being authorized.
The first only affects enlisted Army personnel. The latter affects enlisted and officers in the army, navy, and marine corps.
DoD News release.
DoD Full Report.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:56:49am |
So, I finally got to sit down at the computer with my first cuppa and the dogs wanted to go out.
Now I can hear Brat Puppy in the other room destroying something that could be a soft toy or a pillow cushion.
I haven't had 2 sips of coffee yet.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:57:30am |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 13, 2012 6:58:54am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:02:14am |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:02:43am |
Hezbollah has always dabbled with the idea of international terrorism but I think this is a new step for them. It also greatly complicates things with Lebanon because they are part of the government there. Not good.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:07:45am |
re: #543 ggt
While I agree with your statement about the propaganda, the administration isn't helping the situation too much.
It's a conspiracy, I tells you. Through Soros-controlled banking fronts, SEIU has secretly invested its retirement and political slush funds in companies that make and import scary black guns. On cue, their patron, Obama, has only to mumble a few words about "assault weapons ban" and there is a huge consumer run on the guns and their various accessories. Sales, prices, and stock values skyrocket, at which point SEIU cashes out and pays Soros his commission, with plenty left over for Obama's re-election. Gullible consumers are left holding the bag, but they're mostly Republicans anyway.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:08:40am |
re: #555 The Lincolnshire Poacher
It's a conspiracy, I tells you. Through Soros-controlled banking fronts, SEIU has secretly invested its retirement and political slush funds in companies that make and import scary black guns. On cue, their patron, Obama, has only to mumble a few words about "assault weapons ban" and there is a huge consumer run on the guns and their various accessories. Sales, prices, and stock values skyrocket, at which point SEIU cashes out and pays Soros his commission, with plenty left over for Obama's re-election. Gullible consumers are left holding the bag, but they're mostly Republicans anyway.
I know, first they say they want an inch then before you know it, they have a mile. . . .
:0
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:10:59am |
Good morning lizards!
What did I miss this weekend?
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:11:35am |
re: #556 ggt
I know, first they say they want an inch then before you know it, they have a mile. . . .
:0
They can have our guns when they pry some cold, hard cash out of their fingers and hand it over......
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:12:26am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:16:27am |
re: #557 NJDhockeyfan
Good morning lizards!
What did I miss this weekend?
I'm guessing you missed high speed-internet.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:17:13am |
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:20:20am |
Anti-environmental RR activist say EPA promoting "The Lorax" movie is a violation of the separation of church & state: bit.ly/xzvZpv
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) February 13, 2012
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:20:36am |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:20:48am |
I saw videos this morning in the news of Greece. What a mess.
Greeks clean up after 45 buildings burnt
Firefighters have been dousing smouldering buildings and clean-up crews are sweeping rubble from the streets of central Athens after a night of rioting.
At least 45 buildings were burnt on Sunday night, including one of the capital's oldest restored cinemas. Dozens of stores and cafes were smashed and looted.
The rioting began on Sunday afternoon, ahead of a historic vote in parliament on yet more austerity measures. MPs approved the bill by 199 votes to 74, to the relief of investors who pushed the Athens stock index up 5 per cent on Monday.
The stench of tear gas still hung in the air on Monday morning, choking passers-by. More than 120 people were hurt in the rioting, which also broke out in other Greek cities.
Authorities said 68 police needed medical care after being injured by petrol bombs, rocks and other objects hurled at them. At least 70 protesters were hospitalised.
Police arrested at least 67 people. In several cases they had to escort fire crews to burning buildings after protesters prevented access.
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:21:14am |
Oh, I wish I was in the land of cotton
Old time they are not forgotten
Look away, look away
Look away, Dixie Land
Derp
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:22:48am |
re: #564 NJDhockeyfan
I saw videos this morning in the news of Greece. What a mess.
I really don't understand. Why riot?
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kirkspencer Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:22:58am |
re: #551 Killgore Trout
An interesting observation: both attacks were sticky-bomb car attacks.
Which just happens to be what someone, usually alleged to be Israel, was using on Iranian scientists.
So while I'm more supportive of Israel than Iran, the moral high ground on which they stand is dwarfed by anthills.
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:23:41am |
re: #567 kirkspencer
An interesting observation: both attacks were sticky-bomb car attacks.
Which just happens to be what someone, usually alleged to be Israel, was using on Iranian scientists.
So while I'm more supportive of Israel than Iran, the moral high ground on which they stand is dwarfed by anthills.
Attack!
//
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:23:51am |
re: #565 Gus
Oh, I wish I was in the land of cotton
Old time they are not forgotten
Look away, look away
Look away, Dixie LandDerp
Elvis!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:25:18am |
re: #564 NJDhockeyfan
I saw videos this morning in the news of Greece. What a mess.
Is this a Mediterranean Male thing?
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:26:49am |
re: #570 ggt
Is this a Mediterranean Male thing?
They had a seriously lethal Left/Right civil war a generation ago. Old times die hard.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:26:52am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:27:22am |
re: #570 ggt
Is this a Mediterranean Male thing?
If you think Murikans won't tear some shit up....
(Well, you know they will)
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Varek Raith Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:30:57am |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:32:01am |
re: #567 kirkspencer
An interesting observation: both attacks were sticky-bomb car attacks.
Which just happens to be what someone, usually alleged to be Israel, was using on Iranian scientists.
So while I'm more supportive of Israel than Iran, the moral high ground on which they stand is dwarfed by anthills.
Not really. Israel killed a scientist in Iran who was working on a nuclear bomb for military purposes. The Israeli diplomat in India was a civilian and probably just randomly selected as a target of opportunity.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:32:12am |
re: #574 Varek Raith
Business Groups Shut Down Anti-Islamic Bill In Virginia
Haha!
Or, alternatively, they could simply abandon their anti-Islamic crusade altogether, and devote their attention solving problems that actually exist
My sentiments exactly.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:34:18am |
re: #573 Long Nics are Looonnng
If you think Murikans won't tear some shit up...
(Well, you know they will)
To celebrate a World Series win.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:35:03am |
I'm outta here.
Have a great day all!
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lawhawk Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:37:20am |
re: #575 Killgore Trout
The attacks coincide with the 4th anniversary of the death of Hizbullah leader Imad Mughniyeh (in a bombing that is invariably linked to Israel). So, it isn't a stretch to think that this was the work of Iran, or Hizbullah, or a proxy working on their behalf.
It's a way to show Israel that they're not beyond using any and all tactics to go after Israelis abroad.
It's also not the first terror attack against Israelis/Jews in India; the Mumbai attacks included an element that specifically targeted Jews at the Chabad House.
Still, the Israelis diplomatic corps have been alerted to the possibility of attacks coinciding with the Mughniyeh anniversary, which is probably why the attack was thwarted in Georgia. More here.
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:37:45am |
Think I need a new heater. Spring will be a much better alternative though.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:38:00am |
FEMEN v. Gazprom (warning, if you need one for boobs):
[Link: femen.livejournal.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:38:53am |
re: #577 Decatur Deb
To celebrate a World Series win.
Oh, the reasons are many...
Sun coming up? Sun going down? World Series Win? World Series loss? Hunger? Sated? Free stuff? Expensive stuff? Cheap stuff?
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kirkspencer Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:39:07am |
re: #575 Killgore Trout
Not really. Israel killed a scientist in Iran who was working on a nuclear bomb for military purposes. The Israeli diplomat in India was a civilian and probably just randomly selected as a target of opportunity.
So sticky bomb == sticky bomb equivalence doesn't exist. Gotcha.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:41:14am |
Remote control could have been used to trigger car blast: police
Gupta said the woman from Israeli Embassy, who sustained injuries in the blast, was stable.
...
"Talyesshoba (42), the wife of Israeli Defence Attache, was on her way to pick up her two children from American Embassy school when the incident took place," he said.According to the version provided by one of the eye-witnesses who was injured, Gupta said a motorcyclist stuck something on the rear of the the car and after that there was fire in the car.
The target of the attack was a diplomat's wife on the way to pick up her children. Hardly the moral equivalent of a scientist working on a nuclear weapon.
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kirkspencer Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:42:24am |
re: #570 ggt
Is this a Mediterranean Male thing?
Some. And some of it is monstrous unemployment that's perceived as and possibly is being further increased by demands of foreign controllers.
I've seen some back-of-the-envelope analyses that compare what's happening in Greece (and to a lesser extent all the eurozone peripherals) to the effects of the Treaty of Versailles on Germany. Not sure if that'll stand to a full analysis, but there's enough similarity to make it worth me taking time to look.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:42:29am |
re: #583 kirkspencer
So sticky bomb == sticky bomb equivalence doesn't exist. Gotcha.
No moral equivalence. The method may be similar but the targets are completely different.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:42:36am |
Just saw an AARP insurance commercial.
They actually said, "Save up to thousands of dollars per year".
How on earth can you put that in a commercial?
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:45:52am |
re: #581 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
FEMEN v. Gazprom (warning, if you need one for boobs):
[Link: femen.livejournal.com...]
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lawhawk Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:45:56am |
re: #583 kirkspencer
The messages may be the same (stop doing what you're doing), but the choice of targets is different. In the case of those targeting Iranian scientists and officials, the targets are chosen to stop Iran's nuclear program. In the case of today's attacks against Israeli diplomats, the targets were chosen because they're Israeli diplomats.
Now, everyone believes that Israel is behind the attacks on Iran's nuclear scientists, Imad Mugniyeh, and even the Stuxnet attacks against Iran's nuclear enrichment program, but there's no actual proof of that. There's just lots of circumstantial evidence pointing in that direction. Israel has an interest in seeing the nuclear program halted and Hizbullah terror masters killed, but they're not the only ones. The US and Saudis also have interests in seeing the nuclear program slowed.
Israel for its part is blaming Iran for the attacks on its diplomats, and that's probably the strongest indication that they were behind the other attacks - they recognize the tit-for-tat nature of the ongoing conflict against Israel and Israel's efforts to maintain its security. Expect to see more tit-for-tat attacks along these lines. Not enough to rise to the level of open warfare, but just enough to keep markets roiled and people on their toes.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:46:08am |
re: #587 Long Nics are Looonnng
Just saw an AARP insurance commercial.
They actually said, "Save up to thousands of dollars per year".
How on earth can you put that in a commercial?
That may be on the high end but it's not unreasonable. I looked at the pricing schedule from my insurance company. I pay about $500 for my insurance. Once you hit 65 it costs somewhere around $800-900 a month to by your own insurance. It's insane.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:47:55am |
Can't we all just get along?
*gunshot*
Apparently not.
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Varek Raith Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:48:18am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:48:25am |
re: #590 Killgore Trout
Oh, I'm sure you can save money and all that.
But how do you put, "Save up to thousands of dollars per year".
Sounds like an infomercial, "If you're anything like me, you probably spend fifty thousand dollars a year on paper towels..."
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:49:01am |
re: #594 Varek Raith
Gulf War 3, coming soon to a reality near you!
Don't worry. After THAT war we'll all live happily ever after.
Again.
Zzzzzzzz.
It's. Not. Working.
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kirkspencer Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:50:08am |
re: #586 Killgore Trout
No moral equivalence. The method may be similar but the targets are completely different.
See, I've this problem with that. It's trending to the same sort of reasoning that says it's ok to use waterboarding and other torture because the victims are terrorists.
If the sticky-bomb attack is wrong, it's wrong.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:52:10am |
re: #597 kirkspencer
See, I've this problem with that. It's trending to the same sort of reasoning that says it's ok to use waterboarding and other torture because the victims are terrorists.
If the sticky-bomb attack is wrong, it's wrong.
It is wrong. The question is that of a lesser evil.
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Obdicut Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:52:39am |
xre: #597 kirkspencer
See, I've this problem with that. It's trending to the same sort of reasoning that says it's ok to use waterboarding and other torture because the victims are terrorists.
If the sticky-bomb attack is wrong, it's wrong.
The method of attack really doesn't matter much. It's nothing like waterboarding. Would it be better if the guy just got shot in the face?
| 602 |
Varek Raith Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:53:17am |
Yep, North Korea is kicking ass with its' nuclear arsenal
Wait...
No they aren't.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:53:38am |
Iran preparing 'suicide boats' in case of Strait of Hormuz conflict, U.S. official says
Iran has built up its naval forces in the Gulf and prepared boats that could be used in suicide attacks, but the U.S. Navy can prevent it from blocking the Strait of Hormuz, the commander of U.S. naval forces in the region said on Sunday.
Iran has made a series of threats in recent weeks to disrupt shipping in the Gulf or strike U.S. forces in retaliation if its oil trade is shut down by sanctions, or if its disputed nuclear program comes under attack.
"They have increased the number of submarines ... they increased the number of fast attack craft," Vice Admiral Mark Fox told reporters. "Some of the small boats have been outfitted with a large warhead that could be used as a suicide explosive device. The Iranians have a large mine inventory."
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:54:03am |
re: #598 Gus
There was probably a second sticky bomber.
//
Even if I thought that? I wouldn't "Post-It (tm)".
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:55:01am |
re: #603 NJDhockeyfan
More Iranian sailors for us to fish out of the water.
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:55:20am |
re: #600 lawhawk
On the grassy knoll? /
Yep. Otherwise, I'll wait for the full report. Second guessing all of this reminds me of a bunch of guys at Airliners dot net trying to come up with a cause of the latest crash. It's a waste of time and energy. And, since we can't very well effect any change it just adds to ones frustrations. The USA has a country to run here. Bad enough we've been diverted into this contraception, gay marriage, abortion bullshit by the GOP. The GOP who by the way will take advantage of today's events and more or less blame Obama for everything per usual.
SNAFU
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:57:17am |
re: #602 Varek Raith
Yep, North Korea is kicking ass with its' nuclear arsenal
Wait...
No they aren't.
But the Northern Korean leadership is not rabid and foaming at the mouth! Unlike Iranian leaders, they're rational actors!/
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Varek Raith Mon, Feb 13, 2012 7:59:26am |
re: #607 Dreidelf*** racists with a gefilte fish
But the Northern Korean leadership is not rabid and foaming at the mouth! Unlike Iranian leaders, they're rational actors!/
Fuck you Hans Brix!
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:00:35am |
re: #603 NJDhockeyfan
Iran preparing 'suicide boats' in case of Strait of Hormuz conflict, U.S. official says
Oh, no, I'm quaking in my baby seal patent leather boots.
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:01:13am |
re: #610 thedopefishlives
Oh, no, I'm quaking in my baby seal patent leather boots.
Mmmmm. Sexy. Patent leather always shines up!
//
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:03:13am |
re: #610 thedopefishlives
Oh, no, I'm quaking in my baby seal patent leather boots.
The "Not So Smart" Bomb?
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:03:53am |
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:06:03am |
Oh yeah. Dinnerjacket will be making a speech too. Or did he already?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:07:31am |
I'm sorry, GOP. I refuse to live in fear of creeping sharia, or of godless hoodlums having consequence-free sex, or of illegal immigrants taking our jorbs, or of North Korea, or of Iran, or of terrorist bastards. I'm an American, goddamnit, and that means I shouldn't have to be afraid of anything, inside our borders or out. I know that makes me a Big Bad Librul (tm), but I don't care. OOGA BOOGA.
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Varek Raith Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:10:45am |
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:11:19am |
re: #621 Varek Raith
Hey, I went there.
That's where Obama's going to speak about budget.
And he's up.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:11:40am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:12:50am |
re: #617 thedopefishlives
Sorry for the rant, I just get so sick of the way everybody tries to push the latest scare like it's something we should be terrified of. I'm not afraid to die, and if my time comes, my time comes. Until such time, I'm going to have fun and completely NOT FUCKING CARE about the next potential world-ends-tomorrow scenario. Let's do something about the problems we do have (like global warming), and for everything else, well, isn't that what we pay our diplomats and government representatives for?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:13:23am |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:13:27am |
re: #617 thedopefishlives
I'm sorry, GOP. I refuse to live in fear of creeping sharia, or of godless hoodlums having consequence-free sex, or of illegal immigrants taking our jorbs, or of North Korea, or of Iran, or of terrorist bastards. I'm an American, goddamnit, and that means I shouldn't have to be afraid of anything, inside our borders or out. I know that makes me a Big Bad Librul (tm), but I don't care. OOGA BOOGA.
Iran is not really a conservative-liberal issue. It is a real world problem and Obama is probably going to have to make decision how to handle this, possibly within the next year.
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BongCrodny Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:13:34am |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:13:58am |
re: #445 palomino
And MY point is that a one-day boycott is nothing to get worked up over. It's a pretty mild form of democratic protest. It's hardly the "nastiness" that you described above.
Seriously. Perspective, pls.
Although I think it's hiliarious what the rwnj right considers outrage. They should have to live for a day as a dhimmi'd second-classer under their preferred states rights regimes, that'll give them something to bellyache about.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:15:04am |
I heard you must sacrifice a Virginian at Walpurgis Nacht, and Stan grants you three wishes.
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Varek Raith Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:16:59am |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:17:24am |
re: #624 thedopefishlives
Sorry for the rant, I just get so sick of the way everybody tries to push the latest scare like it's something we should be terrified of. I'm not afraid to die, and if my time comes, my time comes. Until such time, I'm going to have fun and completely NOT FUCKING CARE about the next potential world-ends-tomorrow scenario.
Aww, now where's the fun in that?
The rightwing is defined almost solely by their self-loathing fear of all others. Why anyone chooses to live like that when they don't have to is beyond me, but hey, better them than me.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:18:08am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:18:52am |
re: #634 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Aww, now where's the fun in that?
The rightwing is defined almost solely by their self-loathing fear of all others. Why anyone chooses to live like that when they don't have to is beyond me, but hey, better them than me.
I don't get it either. There's so much more to life than cowering in a corner, afraid that everyone and everything is out to get you.
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:22:31am |
All the wingers just got brain freeze. Obama's now talking about education and TEACHERS!!11ty
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allegro Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:24:33am |
re: #634 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Aww, now where's the fun in that?
The rightwing is defined almost solely by their self-loathing fear of all others. Why anyone chooses to live like that when they don't have to is beyond me, but hey, better them than me.
Interesting the way you worded that. It reminded me of Marcotte's post this morning...
While Romney basically can't lose, barring some kind of weird delegate wrangling that I suppose is always possible but seems unlikely, the knocks he's taking are leaving him in poor fighting condition to take on the general election against Obama. A huge part of the problem is that Romney is just a shitty candidate, something that got forgotten when he was looking good next to the slate of cranks and kooks that challenged him in the primary. But I think a larger part of the problem is that hating Romney has become a stand-in for conservative self-loathing and the current right wing mania for purity.
That was one of those comments that made me go "Hmmm." There's a lot packed into that bolded sentence.
| 641 |
Sheila Broflovski Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:25:50am |
"Can't find American workers with the right skills"
Yeah, companies can't find American workers with the right skills WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR CHINESE WAGES.
| 642 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:28:55am |
Dem lawmaker: Obama budget is a 'nervous breakdown on paper'
Congressional Black Caucus Chairman Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) expressed concern President Obama's budget would go too far to rein in government spending in the midst of an economic recovery, calling the forthcoming proposal a 'nervous breakdown on paper.'
"This budget is a nervous breakdown on paper," said Cleaver during an interview on CNN's Starting Point Monday morning. "We're still in a recession, we're still struggling. Unemployment is still too high," he said.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:29:51am |
Btw, I'd like to give another shout-out to the awesome Charles: Sometime between Friday and today, the LGF Spy now allows you to mouse over the display name and reveal the lizard beneath the mask. Thank you for working so hard to make all these nifty features. The LGF Blog Engine is truly a technical marvel.
| 644 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:31:35am |
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:31:54am |
re: #642 NJDhockeyfan
Dem lawmaker: Obama budget is a 'nervous breakdown on paper'
Zzzzzzz.
During the course of the Democratic Presidential Primary, Cleaver endorsed Hillary Rodham Clinton.[2] Cleaver claimed that African American superdelegates who supported Clinton were subjected to harassment, threatened with primary opponents and called “Uncle Tom.” He said they were told, “You’re not black if you’re not supporting Barack Obama. … It's ugly.”[3] On March 30, 2008, he was interviewed on The Sunday Edition on CBC Radio and said he realized he was on the losing team: "Even though I don't expect the Kansas City Chiefs to beat the Indianapolis Colts, I cheer for the Kansas City Chiefs." [4] According to BlackMissouri.com.,[5] U.S. Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois asked Cleaver, “If it comes down to the last day and you’re the only superdelegate? … Do you want to go down in history as the one to prevent a black from winning the White House?" “I told him I’d think about it," Cleaver explained. Cleaver said during the course of the primary he'd be shocked if Obama wasn't the next President but made it clear he still supported Clinton until she suspended her bid.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:32:34am |
re: #642 NJDhockeyfan
Dem lawmaker: Obama budget is a 'nervous breakdown on paper'
I can't get too excited about Obama's budget proposal. It's not going to pass anyways. Republicans will force a stalemate until the very last moment and then pass a bare minimum, stop gap measure at the last second. Nothing's going to change in the foreseeable future.
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:33:19am |
re: #646 Killgore Trout
I can't get too excited about Obama's budget proposal. It's not going to pass anyways. Republicans will force a stalemate until the very last moment and then pass a bare minimum, stop gap measure at the last second. Nothing's going to change in the foreseeable future.
Occupy Wall Street!
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Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:35:26am |
re: #647 Gus
Occupy Wall Street!
They'll be back in the spring. They'll probably revert to an antiwar movement. I don't think that helps anybody aside from the Iranian regime.
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:35:26am |
re: #646 Killgore Trout
Reid said a couple weeks ago that he's not going to bring a budget up this year.
Reid: This year's budget is done
[Link: thehill.com...]
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:35:53am |
re: #648 Killgore Trout
They'll be back in the spring. They'll probably revert to an antiwar movement. I don't think that helps anybody aside from the Iranian regime.
So have you decided to vote for Santorum or Romney?
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Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:37:31am |
re: #649 RogueOne
Reid said a couple weeks ago that he's not going to bring a budget up this year.
Reid: This year's budget is done
[Link: thehill.com...]
Yeah, it seems like a waste of time. Everybody knows how it's going to turn out.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:39:12am |
re: #650 Gus
So have you decided to vote for Santorum or Romney?
I'll consider Mitt but it's doubtful I'll vote for him. I think Obama's doing a fine job and I don't see Mitt doing any better.
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Varek Raith Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:39:47am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:40:12am |
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Varek Raith Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:40:41am |
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:40:46am |
re: #651 Killgore Trout
Yeah, it seems like a waste of time. Everybody knows how it's going to turn out.
I think you're right but:
1. He's legally required to submit a budget (I think) so he has to do it
2. It's a political document for the election campaign.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:41:16am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:42:02am |
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:42:05am |
re: #661 Gus
I guess the Obama supporters are still sleeping.
Well....we know they aren't at work!////
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Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:42:12am |
re: #659 RogueOne
I think you're right but:
1. He's legally required to submit a budget (I think) so he has to do it
2. It's a political document for the election campaign.
Agreed.
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Varek Raith Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:42:14am |
Heh, like the GOP would ever, ever allow any budget Obama puts up to go for a vote.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:42:58am |
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:43:12am |
re: #665 Varek Raith
Heh, like the GOP would ever, ever allow any budget Obama puts up to go for a vote.
Yet it's Obama's fault. Right. I'm sure if Obama didn't bring up a budget that would satisfy the wingnuts and neocon pseudo-liberals.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:43:20am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:43:43am |
re: #652 Lidane
Thanks for 25 ladies who'd like to have Chris Brown beat them up, by the way. A terrible thing, that.
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:44:32am |
re: #665 Varek Raith
Heh, like the GOP would ever, ever allow any budget Obama puts up to go for a vote.
How man dems in the senate? They only need 51:
Fact Checker:
Jack Lew’s misleading claim about the Senate’s failure to pass a budget resolution
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
(Spoiler Alert: 4 Pinocchios)
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:44:59am |
re: #662 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR
RAH RAH!
/
I don't know. The bipolar nature is a little taxing at times.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:46:05am |
re: #671 Gus
I don't know. The bipolar nature is a little taxing at times.
Do you want Obama supporters to stand up to the KT menace? ;)
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Lidane Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:46:19am |
Cue the Shrieking Harpy:
[Link: hamptonroads.com...]
One bill, HB825 from Republican Del. Bob Marshall of Prince William County, would have prohibited judges and state administrators from using any legal code established outside the United States to make decisions. It was one of two proposals this year to address that issue.
Muslim advocates condemned the effort, calling it a thinly veiled attack on Shariah law, their religious tenets. Members of other religious communities joined in, including the Jewish Community Federation, saying the ban also would infringe on their rights, especially to settle certain family matters, such as wills and divorces, according to their faith.
Nonetheless, the House Courts of Justice Committee approved the bill 10-6 and sent it to the full House for consideration.
But when legislators started hearing from business groups concerned about how the proposal could affect their dealings abroad and foreign companies located here, they sent the bill back to committee.
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:47:12am |
re: #659 RogueOne
I think you're right but:
1. He's legally required to submit a budget (I think) so he has to do it
2. It's a political document for the election campaign.
That's a pretty big "but" right there. He has to submit a budget. He can also use this budget that the GOP drama queens like Boehner will block and us it as a campaign strategy.
*Anyone that was listening will know that Obama said that we need to pass this budget without "drama."
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:48:34am |
re: #674 Gus
That's a pretty big "but" right there. He has to submit a budget. He can also use this budget that the GOP drama queens like Boehner will block and us it as a campaign strategy.
*Anyone that was listening will know that Obama said that we need to pass this budget without "drama."
Be nice to my but, I'm sensitive about it.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:49:17am |
Do I smell a controversy? //
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:49:48am |
re: #673 Lidane
Um.
One bill, HB825 from Republican Del. Bob Marshall of Prince William County, would have prohibited judges and state administrators from using any legal code established outside the United States to make decisions. It was one of two proposals this year to address that issue.
Muslim advocates condemned the effort, calling it a thinly veiled attack on Shariah law, their religious tenets. Members of other religious communities joined in, including the Jewish Community Federation, saying the ban also would infringe on their rights, especially to settle certain family matters, such as wills and divorces, according to their faith.
Nonetheless, the House Courts of Justice Committee approved the bill 10-6 and sent it to the full House for consideration.
But when legislators started hearing from business groups concerned about how the proposal could affect their dealings abroad and foreign companies located here, they sent the bill back to committee.
Doesn't say anything about private citizens using faith-based arbitration, just elected officials acting in government capacity.
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Lidane Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:50:35am |
LGF Irrelevance Watch: Charles gets quoted over at Balloon Juice --
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:50:44am |
re: #676 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR
Do I smell a controversy? //
I thought we already had a full moon.
//
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:51:23am |
re: #674 Gus
I was only agreeing with Killgore that this is a waste of time but the president is required to submit it anyway.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:52:23am |
re: #676 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR
Do I smell a controversy? //
No, I just left the gas on the stove. FIRE IN THE HOLE!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:52:43am |
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lawhawk Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:53:21am |
re: #642 NJDhockeyfan
A budget is a compromise document to start with, and heading into an election year, it's a compromised document too. Not all that surprising that those on the left are finding things to complain about. Just as surely, the GOP will complain that it doesn't go far enough. The budget attempts to do lots of things for lots of groups, but as this Rep. shows, he's not going to please everyone.
The tax portion, which includes tax cuts for corporations and a hike on millionaires will be spun into incomprehensibility.
Yet, there's lots of good stuff in there if you're concerned about infrastructure improvement and jobs:
JUMPSTART JOB CREATION
More than $350 billion in short-term measures for job growth starting in 2012, including many planks of the American Jobs Act that we continue to call on Congress to enact plus some new job creation initiatives. They include:
Extension of the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance benefits for rest of 2012.
An upfront investment of $50 billion from the surface transportation reauthorization bill for roads, rails, and runways to create thousands of quality jobs in the short term.
Continuing to allow businesses to write-off the full amount of new investments.
$30 billion to modernize at least 35,000 schools and $30 billion to help states and localities retain and hire teachers and first responders.
Project Rebuild, a series of policies to help connect Americans looking for work in distressed communities with the work needed to re-purpose residential and commercial properties, creating jobs and stabilizing neighborhoods.
A new tax credit for this year focused on small businesses and that gives businesses that add jobs and wages a tax cut equal to 10 percent of wages added up to $500,000.
Investing in transportation is key, and I can think of at least a dozen projects in the NYC metro area that could use the funding (though that $50 billion could be sunk into one or two projects in NYC alone - such as a fully funded full-route 2d Avenue Subway to Hanover Square plus the Gateway Hudson Tunnel and/or 7 Line Extension to Secaucus). $50 billion could also repair/replace hundreds of deficient bridges across the country, improve rail corridors, and improve air traffic systems as well.
The tax credits add complexity, but would help small businesses if they have to show that they're keeping those workers employed.
I have my doubt about the school construction program. If that finds the light of day in the actual budget, I'd be surprised, but if the NJ example is any indication, the money will end up helping only a fraction of the schools that it claims to be able to help with the $30 billion.
Back in the early 2000s, New Jersey's School Construction Corporation (SCC) was supposed to upgrade, revamp, and build new schools around the state. The initial estimates for work done turned out to be a fraction of what the actual costs would be, so the number of schools were scaled back and yet the prices continued ballooning. In total, only a fraction of the schools that needed work got work done, and the SCC had to be replaced with another entity because of corruption and an inability to control costs. I fear the same thing on the national scale.
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Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 8:53:41am |
re: #680 RogueOne
I was only agreeing with Killgore that this is a waste of time but the president is required to submit it anyway.
And I'm adding that it will help illustrate to the American people what a bunch of obstructionist assholes the Republican Party has become.
| 685 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:00:04am |
Highest Syrian authorities complicit in killings - UN says
New York - The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights said Monday that the onslaught in Syria has continued with the complicity of government authorities 'at the highest level.'
Navi Pillay told a special session of the UN General Assembly in New York that crimes against humanity have been committed over the past 11 months of unrest. She said her office in Geneva had stopped counting the dead because of lack of access to Syria.
Pillay said more than 5,400 people had been killed by December and more than 10,000 people have been injured while an estimated 18,000 people have been detained.
| 686 |
RogueOne Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:01:33am |
re: #684 Gus
And I'm adding that it will help illustrate to the American people what a bunch of obstructionist assholes the Republican Party has become.
Isn't it hard to argue that the repubs are obstructing the budget if the dems won't even bring one up for a vote?
Luckily (////), McConnell just wants to help:
McConnell to offer Obama's budget
[Link: www.politico.com...]
| 687 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:01:41am |
| 688 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:03:35am |
re: #685 NJDhockeyfan
I don't see any chance of UN peacekeepers on the ground. Nobody is going to volunteer troops and it would be a mess. NATO might give the rebels support and aircover but I'm not sure they're that interested in participating.
| 689 |
Daniel Ballard Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:07:58am |
re: #688 Killgore Trout
This time we have admitted Al Qaeda Iraq involvement with the rebels. What a mess.
| 690 |
RogueOne Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:13:05am |
re: #688 Killgore Trout
I don't see any chance of UN peacekeepers on the ground. Nobody is going to volunteer troops and it would be a mess. NATO might give the rebels support and aircover but I'm not sure they're that interested in participating.
I don't know. If it's a joint Arab League/UN mission they'll probably have quite a few arab participants that would love to be on the ground helping the rebels, if only to stick a finger in Irans eye.
| 691 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:14:12am |
re: #689 Daniel Ballard
This time we have admitted Al Qaeda Iraq involvement with the rebels. What a mess.
The whole Arab Spring is looking like a giant mess. The security situation in Egypt continues to deteriorate. There were more kidnappings and a tourist got killed this weekend. Libya doesn't look like it going to end up as a bastion of freedom and peace. It really looks like there are no good fixes for the region. It's either dictators which we can bribe into being peaceful or hives of terrorist activity. Not much realistic hope of something in between.
| 692 |
Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:16:03am |
The Arab Spring has just begun. Give it time. Don't listen to the naysayers that want to see a return to business as usual.
| 693 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:16:08am |
re: #690 RogueOne
I don't know. If it's a joint Arab League/UN mission they'll probably have quite a few arab participants that would love to be on the ground helping the rebels, if only to stick a finger in Irans eye.
I suppose if Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan wanted to send troops they could make it happen.
| 694 |
RogueOne Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:17:16am |
re: #691 Killgore Trout
There were a couple brutal videos that came out of Libya this last week. It's pretty ugly right now.
| 695 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:17:54am |
Round and round and round it goes, where it stops nobody knows.
| 696 |
Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:17:56am |
The Bush doctrine. Hey! Where's Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld? And Cheney. I think I see him here somewhere.
| 697 |
RogueOne Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:18:10am |
re: #693 Killgore Trout
Don't forget Saudi Arabia. They would love to see Assad get the boot.
| 698 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:19:40am |
re: #697 RogueOne
Don't forget Saudi Arabia. They would love to see Assad get the boot.
I thought about the Suadis but they generally don't volunteer troops for stuff. Maybe a few token platoons but not much more than that. I don't know why that is.
| 699 |
Lidane Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:20:34am |
Basset Hound Gets Texas High-School Diploma
What has your dog done lately? Sleep, eat and, if you’re lucky, bring you your slippers? Well, Molly the Basset Hound just earned her high-school diploma. Not obedience school, but an actual high-school diploma. It’s enough to make your shih tzu roll over and play dead.
But before your pup winds up in the doghouse, Houston’s KHOU.com reports that while the feat remains impressive, the Texas pup earned her credentials through a so-called diploma mill. A Texas law that prevents discrimination against home-schooled students is allegedly being used to make a quick buck on the backs of students looking for a shortcut to a diploma. For a few hundred dollars and the answers to some simple online questions, these predominantly online institutions bill themselves as private schools and issue a high-school diploma to seemingly anyone willing to pay. To test the limits of this, the investigative team at KHOU signed up their photographer’s dog, Molly.
| 700 |
RogueOne Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:21:08am |
re: #692 Gus
The Arab Spring has just begun. Give it time. Don't listen to the naysayers that want to see a return to business as usual.
I still have hope but I wouldn't want to be in either Libya or Egypt right now.
Honestly I always thought there was a good chance these would end badly but throwing out their dictators was/is an important first step. When/If they have to do it again they'll remember what it took.
| 701 |
freetoken Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:21:59am |
re: #692 Gus
The Arab Spring has just begun. Give it time. Don't listen to the naysayers that want to see a return to business as usual.
I for one do not believe we can foresee where all of this is heading, no matter how brilliant our analyses. Human societies have an element of chaos and sometimes the strangest things happen.
Our own society, as stable and relatively peaceful that it seems, only became that way after centuries of sectarian and nationalist European warfare, followed by a couple of centuries of colonialism which was brutal at times, followed by a revolutionary and then civil war (which set a benchmark for advanced technological brutality up to that time in history.)
| 702 |
BongCrodny Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:22:15am |
DailyKos: Santorum takes big lead in Michigan
Santorum's net favorability: +44. Romney's? +10. Gingrich is -9 and Paul is -19.
Santorum with a +44 net favorability?
I know he's the latest flavor of the month, but +44?
What the heck do they see in this guy?
| 703 |
Varek Raith Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:22:39am |
re: #702 BongCrodny
DailyKos: Santorum takes big lead in Michigan
Santorum with a +44 net favorability?
I know he's the latest flavor of the month, but +44?
What the heck do they see in this guy?
Not Romney.
| 704 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:22:49am |
[Link: www.thesun.co.uk...]
Witch-hunt has put us behind ex-Soviet states on Press freedom
THE Sun is not a "swamp" that needs draining.
Nor are those other great News International titles, The Times and The Sunday Times.Yet in what would at any other time cause uproar in Parliament and among civil liberty and human rights campaigners, its journalists are being treated like members of an organised crime gang.
HALP! WE'RE BEING REPRESSED WAAAAH! WAAAAAAH!!!
| 707 |
Varek Raith Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:23:42am |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:24:44am |
Man Convicted for Presidential Assassination Plot
An Uzbek man pleaded guilty on Friday for plotting to kill President Barack Obama, according a statement from the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Northern Alabama.
Ulugbek Kodirov, who was illegally living in Birmingham, Ala., admitted guilty on weapons and terrorist charges in the assassination plot, the statement reads.
Court evidence showed that Kodirov believed he was in a plot to kill the president for an Islamist militant group based in Uzbekistan, a landlocked Central Asian county, the statement says. He faces as many as 30 years in prison and a $750,000 fine after pleading guilty.
“Kodirov was apprehended during an undercover operation in which he was attempting to obtain weapons and explosives,” U.S. Attorney Joyce White Vance stated, adding that Muslim community members in Birmingham were “instrumental in helping law enforcement shut down this threat.”
Kodirov was arrested in July at a motel in Alabama after he obtained an automatic machine gun and four hand grenades from an undercover FBI agent.
| 709 |
aagcobb Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:26:10am |
re: #702 BongCrodny
DailyKos: Santorum takes big lead in Michigan
Santorum with a +44 net favorability?
I know he's the latest flavor of the month, but +44?
What the heck do they see in this guy?
Themselves. Romney is an obvious fake (that "severe conservative" line at CPAC went over like a lead balloon), but Santorum really believes AGW is a marxist plot, gays are evil and the Flintstones is a documentary. Romney just can't fake sincerity, while Santorum is sincere.
| 710 |
RogueOne Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:26:12am |
re: #702 BongCrodny
I'm having a really hard time buying that poll. PPP points out the dem/ind voters (who are allowed to vote in the repub primary)prefer santorum by a huge margin which inflates the santorum number but not by much.
I don't live in MI but I spend a lot of time there. I've seen Romney signs all over the western half of the state for 6 months now.
| 711 |
The Left Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:27:56am |
re: #709 SantorumSurging
Themselves. Romney is an obvious fake (that "severe conservative" line at CPAC went over like a lead balloon), but Santorum really believes AGW is a marxist plot, gays are evil and the Flintstones is a documentary. Romney just can't fake sincerity, while Santorum is sincere.
Did you see the Krugman column about that line? I thought it was pretty good.
| 712 |
Gus Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:28:11am |
I'm just glad that the State Department is on these things and not left to some guy on the internet with an opinion.
| 713 |
Varek Raith Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:28:37am |
re: #712 Gus
I'm just glad that the State Department is on these things and not left to some guy on the internet with an opinion.
We should totally bomb Canada.
| 714 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:28:40am |
re: #712 Gus
I'm just glad that the State Department is on these things and not left to some guy on the internet with an opinion.
Democratic State Department.
| 715 |
aagcobb Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:28:56am |
re: #711 Ms. MacIceweasel
Did you see the Krugman column about that line? I thought it was pretty good.
Yes; I agree the GOP is reaping what it has sowed.
| 716 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:28:57am |
| 717 |
RogueOne Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:29:05am |
re: #712 Gus
I'm just glad that the State Department is on these things and not left to some guy on the internet with an opinion.
I keep sending them my phone number but no one ever calls.
| 719 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:30:22am |
re: #718 Varek Raith
Blame Canada.
| 720 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:31:14am |
| 721 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:32:11am |
Oooh, Canna-daaa...
| 722 |
RogueOne Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:32:43am |
Last time I made fun of Canada I was in trouble for days....I'm telling on you guys.
| 723 |
Sheila Broflovski Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:33:34am |
re: #722 RogueOne
Last time I made fun of Canada I was in trouble for days...I'm telling on you guys.
What was that all aboot?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:34:26am |
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:38:15am |
I saw this story in a few places yesterday. If you haven't read it by now....:
Me, APD, and 'Babysitting While White,' Part Deux
[Link: gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com...]
A few years back Grits posed the question, "Is babysitting while white reasonable suspicion for police questioning?" after my granddaughter and I were detained and questioned at length in my neighborhood on suspicion of some nefarious deed (it was never quite clear what). In that incident, the police were pretty clear I was stopped solely because Ty, like her mother (who came to live with my wife and me when she was a child) is black, while I'm an almost stereotypical looking white Texas redneck. At the time, Grits was amazed that three squad cars were dispatched to question me for walking down the street with a child of a different race, detaining me for no good reason and scaring the bejeezus out of then-two-year old Ty.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:40:32am |
Emails Disclose Galloway’s Syrian Support
Recently disclosed emails demonstrate that one of the few public figures to stand by Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad during his brutal repression of anti-government protesters relied on Assad’s help for his signature project.
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Varek Raith Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:42:25am |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:47:44am |
Haniyeh: No compromise, only armed resistance
Only arms and no compromise should be used in dealing with the "Zionist regime, the Iranian news agency ISNA quoted Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh as saying Monday.
The "Gun is our only response to Zionist regime [sic]. In time, we have come to understand that we can obtain our goals only through fighting and armed resistance and no compromise should be made with the enemy," Haniyeh said.
The "Path of resistance continues and if we make any compromise, it is for resistance and obtaining Palestinians' rights," he continued.
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jaunte Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:50:34am |
re: #726 RogueOne
That sounds familiar. My wife and son have been stopped by the Houston police several times for no apparent reason other than being different colors, in the same car.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:50:53am |
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jaunte Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:52:01am |
Judicial benches in Texas left sitting empty
A Republican effort to stall President Barack Obama's judicial nominees in the Senate as a protest to the recess appointment of a consumer watchdog has left Texas with five vacancies on federal benches.
That could grow to as many as seven vacancies by the end of the year, with pending retirements. That's more than any other state except New York.
Senate Democrats and liberal groups are putting pressure on the state's two Republican U.S. senators, Kay Bailey Hutchison and John Cornyn to break with the Republican opposition and push for a vote on two Texas judicial nominees waiting confirmation.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:53:46am |
re: #726 RogueOne
Absurd.
White couples adopting/acquiring/collecting Black children while white is so common these days, it's a cliché. Not so for the color-reverse. If there were some kind of history of states, governments, and other institutions targeting whites as innately criminal, the point would make sense, but it doesn't.
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prairiefire Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:54:10am |
re: #730 jaunte
How annoying! I have only been asked by people what country I got my children from. I say "Myloins."
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:54:55am |
re: #727 NJDhockeyfan
Nice catch. I'm not surprised to learn it, at all. Galloway is a truly vile individual.
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:55:54am |
re: #730 jaunte
That sounds familiar. My wife and son have been stopped by the Houston police several times for no apparent reason other than being different colors, in the same car.
I saw this story in 4 different places yesterday and someone in one of the threads posted this story:
It's about 10 minutes long but it's a really interesting story from Richard Price who happened to be on a ride-a-long with the police when they pull a guy over for the same thing, not being the same color as the kid.
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