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Reactions to ‘Fox News Commenters Spew Racism at Whitney Houston’

Lots of denial from the right, of course
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Here’s a great post at Balloon Juice by “Soonergrunt,” reacting to our post yesterday about Fox News commenters and their ugly racism: Why We Fight.

This is Why We Fight. This is the nature of the opposition. I live amongst these people here in what they proudly refer to as “the buckle of the bible belt” and I’m here to tell you that John’s post of last week was right on the money. You need to read their sites—Fox News, Free Republic, lucianne.com, Michelle Malkin’s site, and others. See what they say to each other when they think they aren’t being watched. The palpable hatred and violent fantasies will make you sick, but you need to know what they want, and you need to keep seeing it in their own words. It’s one thing to say “we read them so you don’t have to” but it’s entirely another to make you all see that you do, in fact, need to. In a few days after this thread is dead, some conservatives will post here claiming that it’s all projection and fantasy, just like they did with John’s post last week. None of that will change a thing. If you’ve ever wondered why I dump shit all over the sorry-assed conservatrolls we have here, it’s because there is no fundamental difference between them and the people quoted above. Their world is the world that our little trolls would make, and people such as they deserve only contempt.

Lest you or anyone accuse me of nutpicking, I am specifically calling out the commenters on those sites. But I’ll note that there’s a reason that racists and bigots frequent sites like Michelle Malkin’s site (which is actually pretty ironic) and Freeperland and Fox.

If you love this country, you need to know and you need to fight for it. If you want a better future for your children, you need to know and you need to fight for it.

Well said. This is why I post these excerpts; not because I enjoy reading this ugly garbage, but because it needs to be exposed. One reason why it’s gotten so incredibly horrifying to read comments at right wing sites is because nobody holds these people accountable. In some cases, site owners are just tolerating this sickening racial hatred, but in many others they’re absolutely doing their best to incite it.

Meanwhile, I received at least a dozen tweets and emails from right wingers claiming that I had faked the post, because they couldn’t see any comments on that Fox News thread.

I know it won’t make even a tiny dent in the right’s armor of denial, but here are a couple of screenshots showing that yes … there are comments for that article. Since the Fox News site uses Javascript to display the comments, it’s possible that people who can’t see them are using incompatible browsers or some sort of extension that’s blocking them.

When you click the link circled above, you get to this page:

Notice that the page now contains a total of 4370 comments. The last time I checked it yesterday, there were over 5100. That means that since I exposed these ugly comments yesterday, Fox News administrators have deleted at least 800 of them — and in fact, you can see one that’s been deleted right there at the bottom of the screenshot, on the very first page.

This is far from the first time Fox News has hosted a deluge of outright racism, by the way:

Fox News Commenters Respond to Common Story With Deluge of Racism and Hate
Update: Four Hours Later, Fox News Commenters Still Spewing Racism
Fox News Commenters Cheer for Serbian War Criminal
Fox Nation on ‘Fast and Furious’: A Deluge of Death Threats and Racism
Fox News Commenters Respond to Somalia Story With Deluge of Racism
Fox News Audience Spews Racial Slurs at Morgan Freeman
Fox News Commenters Spew Racial Slurs at President Obama (Again)
Fox News Commenters Spew Overt Racism at Wyclef Jean and Haitians

Of course, there are some right wingers who would have you believe that all of those comments were planted — either by me, or by “leftists” working in concert — to make them look bad. For example, at the site of racist blogger Robert Stacy McCain: An Idiot Obsessed With Commenters.

After spewing insults at me, calling my post an “increasingly desperate effort to simulate relevance,” and insinuating that I planted all the comments, McCain writes:

As to the attitudes reflected in the comments cited by LGF: Lots of white people in pop music – e.g., Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones, Janis Joplin, Keith Moon of The Who, John Bonham of Led Zeppelin – have died as a consequence of substance abuse. Anecdotal examples are not proof of an ethnic trait, and even if statistical evidence demonstrates a correlation between a behavioral trait and an ethnic group, we should be cautious about asserting any particular axis of causality.

The Irish have a reputation for alcoholism, and perhaps deservedly so. But it is very difficult to say, for example, that stupid Micks are prone to drunkenness (a) because they’re Micks or (b) because they’re stupid.

Furthermore, while it might be observed that Ireland has produced a lot of stupid drunks but precious few nuclear physicists, if we generalize too broadly from that example, stupid drunken Micks might take exception to our observations about the correlation between the stupidity and drunkenness of his type. And then some smelly ignorant Paddy O’Sheeney at the end of the bar will likely give us a demonstration of the tendency toward brutish violence for which that damned race of wretched drunkards are so universally notorious.

Therefore, I urge you to refrain from expressing offensive ethnic stereotypes about the Irish. However, you can insult the Frogs without fear, as the French are most famous for the cowardice of their men and the promiscuity of their women.

What an excellent way to prove that you’re not a racist — by posting several paragraphs full of nasty, bigoted slurs.

UPDATE at 2/13/12 12:22:58 pm

And now: Update: Fox News Makes Racist Comment Thread Disappear.

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148 comments

1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:52:51am

Excellent.

2 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:55:24am

Sooo. Fox can delete comments. Who'da thunk it?

3 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:56:10am

Sooo...RS McCain proves that he can be an equal-opportunity bigot.

4 darthstar  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:56:31am

This isn't a surprise. Fox traditionally lets their fan base of bigots and assholes have their fun until someone complains, then they get a couple of interns to scroll through deleting everything with "n 1gg 3r" or whatever other creative spelling they can find(imagine how rewarding THAT job must be) and then deny anything ever happened.

I'd love to interview someone whose job it is to wade through Fox comments deleting things they have been told might be offensive.

5 freetoken  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:57:08am

re: #2 Long Nics are Looonnng

I asserted yesterday that the Fox moderators eventually delete offending comments, after they've been allowed to stew on-line long enough to send the messages.

6 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:58:59am

I don't remember what Fox commenters had to say when Amy Winehouse passed away last summer. I found the article announcing her death, but all the comments had been purged.

7 freetoken  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 9:59:05am

re: #4 darthstar

Any large corporation eventually wants to rewrite its history to look as favorable as possible, and in this case it means Fox eventually gets around to doing some token moderating. But for all his billions of dollars, Rupert Murdoch will not hire a full time moderator/editors for his Fox website.

8 darthstar  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:03:05am

re: #2 Long Nics are Looonnng

Sooo. Fox can delete comments. Who'da thunk it?

I'll bet they could write a filter to automatically delete those comments as they're posted, if they were concerned about that.

9 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:03:10am

Reading that trash from R.S. McCain (aka Burke Calhoun Dabney). I'm just shaking my head. How can people be so unbelievably ignorant.

10 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:04:38am

"RS McCain: posting racist crap on the Internet since 1996"

11 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:06:32am

They're white conservative bigots. There's nothing to prove -- we have been saying this about these people's behavior for generations. Have people thought we were lying all this time?

12 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:07:25am

Wingnut tweets:

13 Lidane  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:09:01am

re: #11 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

They're white conservative bigots. There's nothing to prove -- we have been saying this about these people's behavior for generations. Have people thought we were lying all this time?

It's just a bunch of overly sensitive libtards playing the PC race card. Nothing to see here.

///

14 wrenchwench  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:10:40am
What can we say about Charles Johnson’s increasingly desperate efforts to simulate relevance?

Thus begins thread #65,789 about LGF, and every comment (but one) is about Charles, his irrelevance, and 'how I got banned'.

15 jaunte  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:12:43am
17 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:14:17am

OK--all this is close enough to hatemail. Tip jar hit on the way.

18 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:14:23am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Wingnut tweets:

[Video]

Tell him to prove it otherwise. In the mean time I have several screen captures and have already posted the link to the profile of the most cretinous of the commentators showing that he's a) a regular Fox News commentators b) has over 3,000 comments at Fox News alone and c) is a racist that has posted numerous form of the n-word at Fox News not limited to Whitney Houston.

19 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:14:32am

No way it can be faked, or that the comments (all hundreds of them) were planted.

This has happened too many times to count to say that it's merely faked, and the outrageous outrage by RS McCain and others claiming that there's no racism there - all while writing offensively racist statements shows that these revelations and exposure of the hate are hitting home.

They can't get around the fact that it keeps happening at Fox Nation and other News Corp sites to be coincidence, faked, or planted.

It also raises the question that they can moderate (or better moderate) the sites - but don't (or wont) until someone raises a stink and then they get someone to go through and clear out offensive comments.

20 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:15:57am

On Luap Nor's FB Page right now.

Added...

Sorry. Not Ron's FB page. It's "Don't forget about Ron" FB page.

Too late. We've forgotten

21 wrenchwench  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:17:10am

re: #16 Charles Johnson

'Charles Johnson' site:theothermccain.com - Google Search

Whoops, I thought I was exaggerating...

22 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:17:45am

re: #16 Charles Johnson

'Charles Johnson' site:theothermccain.com - Google Search

Touching the Google cache trigger brings the McCain page up as an image, but trying to read it in cache gives a repeated 404 error.

23 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:18:20am

re: #16 Charles Johnson

'Charles Johnson' site:theothermccain.com - Google Search

You live in his head. I hope his head fridge contains all your favorite beverages.

24 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:19:11am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Wingnut tweets:

[Video]

Check out "Keith Goody's" profile pic.

[Link: twitter.com...]

25 Lidane  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:20:20am

re: #20 Long Nics are Looonnng

On Luap Nor's FB Page right now.

It bugs me how naive a lot of his supporters are. They're convinced that the only racist dirt on Luap Nor is writing by other people. Never mind that he published it and that he cultivated ties with the racists -- he didn't write any of the crap in his newsletters so therefore he's not racist. It's practically an article of faith.

26 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:25:46am

Wingnut trash is being wingnut trash. I expected nothing more than ignorant arrogance.

27 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:25:52am

re: #17 Decatur Deb

OK--all this is close enough to hatemail. Tip jar hit on the way.

Muchas gracias.

28 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:28:31am

re: #26 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR

Wingnut trash is being wingnut trash. I expected nothing more than ignorant arrogance.

RayFerd's comment at the end of the original Houston/Fox News racism thread is well worth reading. The anecdote he relays captures that attitude perfectly, along with a good heaping dose of projection and "waaaah, I'm the real victim" mentality.

29 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:30:03am

OT but since they're all part of the same wingnut species. Get this, Dana Loesch of all people tells Liz Glover to "act like a lady." What a trip.

CPAC Attack: Liz Glover Confronts Andrew Breitbart And Dana Loesch Over GOProud Ban

30 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:30:19am

Keep piling on all that Irrelevance Charles. You're over the target.

All the responses are denial and doubling down. Not once have I seen a moment of consideration and introspection.

31 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:32:08am

re: #28 Interesting Times

RayFerd's comment at the end of the original Houston/Fox News racism thread is well worth reading. The anecdote he relays captures that attitude perfectly, along with a good heaping dose of projection and "waaah, I'm the real victim" mentality.

Indeed.

32 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:33:33am

re: #23 Look At My New Grandbaby!

You live in his head. I hope his head fridge contains all your favorite beverages.

Actually, it isn't really me in his head -- it's a simulacrum that he constructed himself.

I don't think I could handle the smell in there.

33 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:35:02am

Outrage Alert:
I voted for Obama because he was black

Samuel Jackson

34 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:35:59am

re: #29 Gus

OT but since they're all part of the same wingnut species. Get this, Dana Loesch of all people tells Liz Glover to "act like a lady." What a trip.

Far from the only female wingnut behaving like a misogynist douche. Check out pro-rape comments from Fox scumdit Liz Trotta:

35 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:36:03am

re: #33 Kronocide

Outrage Alert:
I voted for Obama because he was black

Samuel Jackson

Fox News comments gotta be a hoot.

36 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:36:39am

re: #34 Interesting Times

Far from the only female wingnut behaving like a misogynist douche. Check out pro-rape comments from Fox scumdit Liz Trotta:

I'm watching now.

37 Achilles Tang  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:36:56am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Actually, it isn't really me in his head -- it's a simulacrum that he constructed himself.

What could be called an overloaded instantiated, private, class method?

(been brushing up on my JAVA. This OOP stuff really fits well to many things)

38 jaunte  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:37:36am

re: #29 Gus

Breitbart and Loesch both really trying to avoid the GOProud ban topic.

39 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:37:51am

re: #35 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR

Fox News comments gotta be a hoot.

Minions prepare!

40 The Yankee  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:38:02am

You know what Fox could do to fix this to some degree. Make it so that your comments are linked to your Facebook account. If you are proud of what you wrote then let people know who you really are.

41 jaunte  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:39:04am

re: #40 The Yankee

I would bet someone at Fox has made the decision that un-moderated comments will give them more eyeballs/better ratings.

42 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:39:25am

re: #34 Interesting Times

Far from the only female wingnut behaving like a misogynist douche. Check out pro-rape comments from Fox scumdit Liz Trotta:

My head is already spinning. Damn, these right winger are getting crazier by the second. It's becoming mainstream. They've become brazen.

43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:40:00am

re: #33 Kronocide

He uses the N word more than a Fox.com commenter.

44 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:40:05am

re: #39 Kronocide

Minions prepare!

Holdcha horsies.

Fox Nation: "Comments for this page are closed"

Seems they learned their lesson.

45 Kragar  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:40:55am

I have no clue as to what RSM was trying to say or the point he was trying to make.

46 jaunte  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:41:27am

re: #45 Kragar

He's a professional writer!

47 AK-47%  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:42:06am

Half of those posters will inisit that it is just "satire" or "humor" and complain aobut how leftist liberals are humorless.

The other half will insist that some of their best friends are black and complain that liberals are effete snobs who life in gentrified neighborhoods without minorities.

48 Lidane  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:42:08am

Political strategery!

49 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:43:00am

re: #48 Lidane

Political strategery!

The GOP's blowing off its foot with a howitzer. November's gonna be sad to watch.

50 Kragar  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:43:08am

re: #46 jaunte

He's a professional writer!

Right.

51 Lidane  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:44:17am

re: #49 Targetpractice

The GOP's blowing off its foot with a howitzer. November's gonna be sad to watch.

Just wait until they get to another debt ceiling debate.

52 jaunte  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:45:15am

re: #48 Lidane

Heh. Greg Sargent hints that Romney will flip flop on this, too:

I continue to believe that Romney will have plenty of time to reintroduce himself to these voters on his own terms, if and when he becomes the nominee.

53 Kragar  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:45:39am

Beisner: EPA Promoting 'The Lorax' Violates the Separation of Church and State

Calvin Beisner, the founder of the Cornwall Alliance, has become the Religious Right's favorite "expert" in fighting any environmental effort and a regular guest on Bryan Fischer's radio program, despite the fact that his scientific credentials appear to be limited to possessing a Ph.D. in Scottish History.

Beisner is now complaining that the Environmental Protection Agency is one of many partners involved in promoting the upcoming film "The Lorax" and that, by doing so, the agency is in "violation of the separation of church and state" because Beisner believes that environmentalism is a religion:

Image: memes-fry-can-never-tell.jpg

54 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:45:51am

But freepers do not disappoint:

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

I stopped watching and listening to Samuel L. Jackson because he’s black.

5 posted on 13 февраля 2012 г. 12:48:01 by onona (Dicky Betts is one ramblin man !)

Jackson is an Afrofascist; simple as that..

13 posted on 13 февраля 2012 г. 13:24:43 by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)

With all the [bleeps], it makes one wonder why the rest of the population cannot refer to that demographic in the same manner.

Oh, that's right....we're supposed to be PC. We's can'ts b' callin' a [bleep] a [bleep].
16 posted on 13 февраля 2012 г. 13:38:06 by Sarajevo (Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental)

That does it. From now on I’m only voting for white candidates.

Enough is enough.

25 posted on 13 февраля 2012 г. 14:33:11 by A_Former_Democrat (MERRY CHRISTMAS to the ACLU)

No need to bleep the N-Word.

It's ok, a Black Man said it.

It's a quote, print what the Black Man said about Obamah.
34 posted on 13 февраля 2012 г. 16:16:15 by TexasCajun

Blacks are more racist than Whites.

~ Larry Elder, "The Ten Things You Can't Say In America"
52 posted on 13 февраля 2012 г. 18:43:21 by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)

55 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:46:34am

Another day on planet....

Hang on. Let me check what planet we're on and I'll get back with ya'.

//

57 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:47:35am

re: #44 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR

Holdcha horsies.

Fox Nation: "Comments for this page are closed"

Seems they learned their lesson.

Somebody at Fox News is probably pretty pissed off at me today.

58 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:47:59am

re: #2 Long Nics are Looonnng

Sooo. Fox can delete comments. Who'da thunk it?

I reported some of them suckers three times!

59 Kragar  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:48:28am

re: #57 Charles Johnson

I imagine that somebody at Fox News is probably pretty pissed off at me today.

How does it feel to be irrelevant?
/

60 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:48:47am

re: #3 Look At My New Grandbaby!

Sooo...RS McCain proves that he can be an equal-opportunity bigot.

Can someone explain to this dumb Mick exactly what the sophisticated, or merely sophistic, point of that rant on the drunk Irish was supposed to be?

61 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:49:13am

re: #44 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR

Holdcha horsies.

Fox Nation: "Comments for this page are closed"

Seems they learned their lesson.

Link?

62 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:49:15am

re: #59 Kragar

How does it feel to be irrelevant?
/

ALL YOUR IRRELEVANTS ARE BELONG TO US

63 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:49:40am

re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist

Can someone explain to this dumb Mick exactly what the sophisticated, or merely sophistic, point of that rant on the drunk Irish was supposed to be?

Durr hurr, white people are the REAL victims of racism!1!!!

64 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:49:44am

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

OK then I’ll vote against Obama because he is black. And because as a semi-Kenyan foreigner he wants to destroy the United States that I know and make it into a dictator ruled socialist dump....like the ones they have in Venezuela, Kenya, Africa and Europe

4 posted on 11 февраля 2012 г. 20:13:13 by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)

I think he voted for him becasue Samuel Jackson is ignorant...and a [bleep]... and scary.

9 posted on 11 февраля 2012 г. 20:15:22 by hattend (Jesus wants me to make churches pay for abortions. - Barack Obama)

Jackson only exposed a well known but NEVER mentioned fact; most black people are RACIST! You can not get a 96% consensus on ANYTHING yet that’s the percentage of blacks that voted for Obama, for the same reason I’m sure, that SLJ did. If anyone has any other theories I’m all ears.

18 posted on 11 февраля 2012 г. 20:17:59 by 762X51

And our first “Black” president led us into slavery. So what does that say sir? Steriotype is as steriotype does.

My news for this fool is that Obama is neither black or American. He is a half arab Muslim illegal immigrant.

28 posted on 11 февраля 2012 г. 20:28:12 by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)

Jackson should be black listed. I will never, ever pay a red cent to see anything he's in. He's a racist POS.
42 posted on 11 февраля 2012 г. 20:39:08 by liberalh8ter (Obama - The United Nation's first U.S. Presidential Candidate)

No surprise here...just like other blacks.

44 posted on 11 февраля 2012 г. 20:40:46 by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)

etc. etc.

65 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:49:53am

Facebook traffic is huge today: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

The link must have been posted there by someone with a lot of followers.

66 Achilles Tang  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:50:12am

re: #53 Kragar

Beisner: EPA Promoting 'The Lorax' Violates the Separation of Church and State

Separation of church and state? WTF is that?//

67 The Yankee  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:51:01am

re: #48 Lidane

Political strategery!

It is sad that no politician can admit openly that sex is a powerful drive and is just as legit a drive as hunger and the drive to survive. If it wasn't such as powerful drive our population would of never went passed 1 billion people because of tragedies like the Potato Famine and WWI. Getting pregnant during those times could of only happen because of an intense drive that reason and logic can not control.

68 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:51:04am

re: #61 Gus

Sorry, closed. Google with site:

69 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:51:40am

re: #25 Lidane

It bugs me how naive a lot of his supporters are. They're convinced that the only racist dirt on Luap Nor is writing by other people. Never mind that he published it and that he cultivated ties with the racists -- he didn't write any of the crap in his newsletters so therefore he's not racist. It's practically an article of faith.

I had a brief discussion with couple of Paulpeople on ABL, and they kept doing that thing they do about 'research'. I asked where I might 'research' Ron Paul, since they appeared to think that Google was a bad source. I was referred to:

1. Ron Paul's site

and 2. YouTube, where there are many videos of Ron Paul saying stuff.

The newsletters are not a good source, because Ron Paul says he didn't write them.

Anything written by, or alleged to be written by someone who's not Ron Paul isn't 'research', it's 'falling for lies and propaganda'.

I think a lot of them are very, very young.

70 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:52:15am

re: #29 Gus

OT but since they're all part of the same wingnut species. Get this, Dana Loesch of all people tells Liz Glover to "act like a lady." What a trip.

CPAC Attack: Liz Glover Confronts Andrew Breitbart And Dana Loesch Over GOProud Ban

There's a ladylike way to 'drop trou' and piss on corpses?

71 Obdicut  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:52:54am

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

There's a ladylike way to 'drop trou' and piss on corpses?

It's called the "Queen Victoria Swoop-and-Curtsey".

72 Lidane  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:53:03am
73 jaunte  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:53:12am

re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist

Can someone explain to this dumb Mick exactly what the sophisticated, or merely sophistic, point of that rant on the drunk Irish was supposed to be?

Diversion, popping of smoke, dragging the red herring...

74 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:53:36am

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

There's a ladylike way to 'drop trou' and piss on corpses?

You've got a lot to learn! //

75 BongCrodny  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:53:42am

re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist

I think a lot of them are very, very young.

And have never heard of Occam's Razor

76 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:53:50am

re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist

Can someone explain to this dumb Mick exactly what the sophisticated, or merely sophistic, point of that rant on the drunk Irish was supposed to be?

It means he knows it's politically incorrect to use a "drunken Native Americans" stereotype but the Irish are fair game, cause their white ya know.

Although during the 19th century, Irish were actually considered to be a separate race.

And considering RSM's name, he can also use the excuse "But I'm Irish myself!"

77 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:54:08am

re: #73 jaunte

Diversion, popping of smoke, dragging the red herring...

I think he smokes red herring. Like bong hits of the stuff.

78 The Yankee  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:54:28am

Is there any one from Russia here I have a question that has been bothering me for the past few years?

79 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:55:08am

re: #78 The Yankee

Is there any one from Russia here I have a question that has been bothering me for the past few years?

No.

/

Yes.

80 Achilles Tang  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:55:17am

re: #78 The Yankee

Is there any one from Russia here I have a question that has been bothering me for the past few years?

Try Sergey, if you can find him.

81 jaunte  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:55:40am

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

'Upping her game', St. Louis style

82 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:55:41am

re: #80 Red Sea Desjardini Tang

Try Sergey, if you can find him.

He's so ronery.

83 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:55:44am

re: #57 Charles Johnson

Somebody at Fox News is probably pretty pissed off at me today.

One of these fine days, they're just going to have to get better comment moderation going on. They can afford it.

It won't make everyone who comments there a nice person, but at least they can get rid of all the creatively-spelled racial slurs.

(The bitter whining about Obama on threads not even vaguely related to the President, OTOH, we probably can't do anything about.)

84 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:56:10am

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

There's a ladylike way to 'drop trou' and piss on corpses?

Exactly. Amongst other things that come out of her mouth.

85 Kragar  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:56:36am

re: #76 Look At My New Grandbaby!

It means he knows it's politically incorrect to use a "drunken Native Americans" stereotype but the Irish are fair game, cause their white ya know.

Although during the 19th century, Irish were actually considered to be a separate race.

And considering RSM's name, he can also use the excuse "But I'm Irish myself!"

RSM was in a movie once...

86 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:56:45am

re: #78 The Yankee

Is there any one from Russia here I have a question that has been bothering me for the past few years?

Ask away.

87 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:56:48am

re: #63 Interesting Times

Because, of course, it was black people who came up with the stereotype of the drunken, thick Irish...

88 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:57:48am

re: #83 SanFranciscoZionist

One of these fine days, they're just going to have to get better comment moderation going on. They can afford it.

They won't do it. I believe they have a deliberate policy to allow these kinds of comments. On Fox Nation, they go even farther and encourage them with blatantly race-baiting posts.

89 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:57:50am

re: #87 SanFranciscoZionist

Because, of course, it was black people who came up with the stereotype of the drunken, thick Irish...

I thought it was the "Know Nothings"
//

90 Kragar  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:58:22am
91 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:58:24am

re: #71 Obdicut

It's called the "Queen Victoria Swoop-and-Curtsey".

Well, legend does have it that the kilt pin was innovated by Queen Victoria, to help out a young Scots guardsman whose kilt was blowing up in front of Her Majesty.

92 jaunte  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:58:40am

re: #88 Charles Johnson

Niche marketing.

93 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:59:13am

re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, legend does have it that the kilt pin was innovated by Queen Victoria, to help out a young Scots guardsman whose kilt was blowing up in front of Her Majesty.

Would that have been "Mr. Brown"?

94 Lidane  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 10:59:31am

re: #90 Kragar

Pew: Santorum Passes Romney Nationally

This is good news for John McCain Mitt Romney!

95 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:00:15am

Neocon wingnut fearmonger Israel Firsters!
Clinton condemns 'cowardly' attacks on Israel embassies

96 makeitstop  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:00:35am

re: #90 Kragar

Pew: Santorum Passes Romney Nationally

Is 'Pew' the polling outfit or an editorial comment?
/

97 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:00:42am

re: #88 Charles Johnson

They won't do it. I believe they have a deliberate policy to allow these kinds of comments. On Fox Nation, they go even farther and encourage them with blatantly race-baiting posts.

Check this out.

Only three but enough to drive Andrew crazy.

98 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:01:07am

re: #96 makeitstop

Is 'Pew' thew polling outfit or an editorial comment?
/

Pepe Le Pew.

99 Kragar  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:01:10am

Republican Women Senators Breaking Ranks With Party, Come Out In Favor Of Obama Contraception Rule

Sens. Olympia Snowe (ME) and Susan Collins (ME) — both of whom have sponsored legislation requiring insurers to offer contraception benefits in all health plans — are in favor of the new compromise, which would allow religiously affiliated colleges, universities, and hospitals to avoid providing birth control. Their employees will still receive contraception coverage at no additional cost sharing directly from the insurer:

100 BongCrodny  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:01:19am

re: #90 Kragar

Pew: Santorum Passes Romney Nationally

"Pew" is right.

101 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:01:25am

re: #88 Charles Johnson

They won't do it. I believe they have a deliberate policy to allow these kinds of comments. On Fox Nation, they go even farther and encourage them with blatantly race-baiting posts.

Well, in that case, there are going to be scandalettes like this, and they're just gonna have to get used to it.

My God, these folks are whiny. Is it so hard to admit that there are a bunch of racists in the comments at Fox News?

(I did check Yahoo for balance. Often, they are quite bad, but the Whitney threads over there were very respectful.)

102 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:02:20am

re: #101 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, in that case, there are going to be scandalettes like this, and they're just gonna have to get used to it.

My God, these folks are whiny. Is it so hard to admit that there are a bunch of racists in the comments at Fox News?

(I did check Yahoo for balance. Often, they are quite bad, but the Whitney threads over there were very respectful.)

Yahoo comments are just as bad as Fox.

103 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:02:35am

re: #93 Look At My New Grandbaby!

Would that have been "Mr. Brown"?

Just some fella on parade. Accidentally flashing the Queen is, I suppose, either exciting or mortifying, and he was going with the second option.

104 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:02:36am

re: #97 Gus

Check this out.

Only three but enough to drive Andrew crazy.

Heh. There are 4 more cases of the singular form.

105 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:03:13am

re: #104 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR

Heh. There are 4 more cases of the singular form.

Yep. Was just doing that.

106 The Yankee  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:03:31am

re: #86 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR

Ask away.

Two totally different questions.

1. The Apartment Building Bombings of Sept. of 1999, do most of the people of your country consider that to be an Red Flag operation because of some of the details of bombing. Like one of the members of Parliament mentioning it before it happen. Or is it widely excepted that Chechnya did it?

2. Last how bad is the Neo Nazi problem in Slavic countries. I hear it is pretty bad in Russia where the cops pretty much don't care or side with the Nazis. I am a black guy debating on visiting St. Peterburge one of these days. I know it is going to be risky either way but i been in risky areas of my country and other countries.

Thanks in advice sorry to change topics.

107 Lidane  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:03:31am
108 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:03:43am

BRB Screen shot time.

109 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:04:01am

re: #103 SanFranciscoZionist

Just some fella on parade. Accidentally flashing the Queen is, I suppose, either exciting or mortifying, and he was going with the second option.

I asked because the Queen would have been either excited or mortified, but considering she is alleged to have had an affair with one of her Scots guards, probably the former option.

110 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:05:05am

re: #97 Gus

Check this out.

Only three but enough to drive Andrew crazy.

Oh, if you use other variants, it gets quite interesting over there.

111 Kragar  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:05:35am

re: #109 Look At My New Grandbaby!

I asked because the Queen would have been either excited or mortified, but considering she is alleged to have had an affair with one of her Scots guards, probably the former option.

Picturing Madeline Kahn.

"No, no, no, yes, no, no, YES, no, no, yes, yes, no"

112 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:06:47am

re: #111 Kragar

Picturing Madeline Kahn.

"No, no, no, yes, no, no, YES, no, no, yes, yes, no"

I was thinking more of that scene from "History of the World," where Gregory Hines is pretending to be a eunuch.

113 BongCrodny  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:07:07am

re: #97 Gus

Check this out.

Only three but enough to drive Andrew crazy.

Another slur that Charles cited to showed 19 results.

Not gonna use it, but it's one of the racist epithets in the original story.

114 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:08:26am

re: #66 Red Sea Desjardini Tang

Separation of church and state? WTF is that?//

I hate Dr. Seuss. You have to raise 4 Green Eggs and Ham addicts to hate Dr Seuss like I do.

115 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:09:05am

re: #114 Decatur Deb

I hate Dr. Seuss. You have to raise 4 Green Eggs and Ham addicts to hate Dr Seuss like I do.

I bet that I hate the Beranstain Bears more than you hate Dr. Seuss.

116 jamesfirecat  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:10:44am

re: #112 Look At My New Grandbaby!

I was thinking more of that scene from "History of the World," where Gregory Hines is pretending to be a eunuch.

That man is dead!

117 jaunte  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:11:11am

re: #97 Gus

Check this out.

Only three but enough to drive Andrew crazy.

More results for this:
[Link: www.google.com...]

118 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:11:19am

re: #115 Look At My New Grandbaby!

I bet that I hate the Beranstain Bears more than you hate Dr. Seuss.

Not if you divide the hatred proportionally among our number of kids.

119 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:11:25am

re: #114 Decatur Deb

I hate Dr. Seuss. You have to raise 4 Green Eggs and Ham addicts to hate Dr Seuss like I do.

Fox in socks, at least once a day for two long years. Because it's funny to hear Daddy stumble over the breezy trees through which three free fleas flew.

120 Achilles Tang  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:14:40am

re: #96 makeitstop

Is 'Pew' the polling outfit or an editorial comment?
/

For years I thought it was the "few", on NPR.

121 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:14:44am

re: #118 Decatur Deb

Not if you divide the hatred proportionally among our number of kids.

There is no possible way for anyone to hate any other children's book with the unbounded rage that I hate the Beranstain Bears.

122 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:14:57am

re: #97 Gus

Check this out.

Only three but enough to drive Andrew crazy.

That's how they misspell "knickers". They're still looking for rhymes for "drear" and "stitch".

123 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:15:47am

re: #119 kirkspencer

Ha! OMG, I've managed to forget it! FINALLY, mwu-hahahahah.....

except my wife, looking over my shoulder, says "you forgot. here, it's..." sigh.

Through three cheese trees three free fleas flew.
While these fleas flew, freezy breeze blew.
Freezy breeze made these three trees freeze.
Freezy trees made these trees' cheese freeze.
That's what made these three free fleas sneeze.

124 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:15:49am

re: #117 jaunte

More results for this:
[Link: www.google.com...]

What the?

125 The Yankee  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:16:29am

Know what would make a nice paradox, if Fox news responds to Charles, with samples from Charles article. And then to have the comments to the article write racial charge stuff again.

126 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:16:46am

re: #123 kirkspencer

Ha! OMG, I've managed to forget it! FINALLY, mwu-hahahahah...

except my wife, looking over my shoulder, says "you forgot. here, it's..." sigh.

Radio stations probably make newscasters audition by reading that book.

127 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:17:01am

re: #124 Gus

What the?

Apparently Charles and Killgore and...oh, they also like to blame Hoops...and a whole lot of people from the HuffPo have been commenting at Breitbart's site.

That's the only explanation.

128 Mocking Jay  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:18:04am

So I see the comment button is gone on the Whitney story...

129 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:20:15am

re: #128 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

So I see the comment button is gone on the Whitney story...

That seems common. They get rid of the comment threads. When I tried to look at some threads following Amy Winehouse's death, for comparison purposes, nada.

130 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:20:16am

re: #128 A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

So I see the comment button is gone on the Whitney story...

Yes, it looks like it's gone for real now. They've made them disappear.

131 Mocking Jay  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:20:40am

Go, Jersey. Make Christie veto that sucker.

132 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:21:10am

re: #124 Gus

What the?

I've never even heard of that one before.
[Link: www.urbandictionary.com...]

133 Mocking Jay  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:21:31am

re: #130 Charles Johnson

Yes, it looks like it's gone for real now. They've made them disappear.

All of that hard work you put into planting those comments... poof.

134 jaunte  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:21:45am

re: #132 Killgore Trout

I read it in one of the Fox comments yesterday.

135 Mocking Jay  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:23:42am

re: #134 jaunte

I read it in one of the Fox comments yesterday.

Just one?

136 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:23:56am

re: #132 Killgore Trout

I've never even heard of that one before.
[Link: www.urbandictionary.com...]

Well they're not talking about a beverage. It's obviously #5 in context.

137 Mocking Jay  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:24:20am

re: #136 Gus

Well they're not talking about a beverage. It's obviously #5 in context.

They're just pants.

138 jaunte  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:24:56am

re: #136 Gus

Just a silly Yorkshireman.

139 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:27:11am

re: #34 Interesting Times

Far from the only female wingnut behaving like a misogynist douche. Check out pro-rape comments from Fox scumdit Liz Trotta:

Yep. They should stay home, not going out in public (except covered) and with a male relative as escort. Have they no decency? And we should defend our country against Sharia law.

140 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:29:06am

re: #106 The Yankee

Two totally different questions.

1. The Apartment Building Bombings of Sept. of 1999, do most of the people of your country consider that to be an Red Flag operation because of some of the details of bombing. Like one of the members of Parliament mentioning it before it happen. Or is it widely excepted that Chechnya did it?

2. Last how bad is the Neo Nazi problem in Slavic countries. I hear it is pretty bad in Russia where the cops pretty much don't care or side with the Nazis. I am a black guy debating on visiting St. Peterburge one of these days. I know it is going to be risky either way but i been in risky areas of my country and other countries.

Thanks in advice sorry to change topics.

1. I don't know the current opinion.

In 2002, right after Berezovsky's conspiracy film was shown on one of the federal channels there was a poll, the results are at [Link: www.levada.ru...]

6% thought the bombings were organized by secret services, 37% thought it was neither proven, nor could it be excluded. 38% Thought that the possibility of secret services involvement can be excluded. 19% could not answer.

Seleznyov did not actually mention the massive Volgodonsk bombing beforehand. He did refer to an "explosion of a house" in Volgodonsk, but this rather obviously referred to a smaller explosion that did happen on that day, even though Seleznyov's description wasn't quite accurate. The argument that it referred to the explosion 3 days later doesn't actually make sense, if you think the whole scenario through.

Also, AFAIC, there isn't actual credible evidence that FSB performed the bombings. No more than there is evidence that CIA was the culprit behind 9/11.

2. The problem is pretty bad. You should certainly be wary of skinheads, even when you visit the "Northern capital". It doesn't mean you will be attacked in daylight in the center of the city, however you should avoid dates like Nov. 4 and other days when nationalists march, as well as massive sports events, esp. soccer.

141 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:29:24am

re: #28 Interesting Times

RayFerd's comment at the end of the original Houston/Fox News racism thread is well worth reading. The anecdote he relays captures that attitude perfectly, along with a good heaping dose of projection and "waaah, I'm the real victim" mentality.

Thanks for the shout out PS.

142 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:32:50am

re: #122 Decatur Deb

That's how they misspell "knickers". They're still looking for rhymes for "drear" and "stitch".

Knickers and britches. That's all they're talking about.

143 Gus  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:32:56am

This is a dump of the Google search text.

Breitbart.tv » 911 Audio: Child Star Gary Coleman Rushed to ...
tv.breitbart.com/911-audio-child-star-gary-coleman-rushed-hospital-...
Jun 2, 2010 – She is defective by definition if she married a nig-nog. That and the whole gum-to-teeth ratio thing. PhoneBill June 2nd, 2010 - 11:08 pm ...

Breitbart.tv » Thousand Celebrate DC Snowfall With Epic Snowball ...
tv.breitbart.com/thousand-celebrate-dc-snowfall-with-epic-snowball-f...
Feb 7, 2010 – Where is the uppity nig-nog affirmative-action cop pulling out his gun – angry because snow is White. Buford T Justice February 7th, 2010 ...

Breitbart.tv » Exclusive Pictures Chronicle Impact of Tiger Woods ...
tv.breitbart.com/exclusive-pictures-chronicle-impact-of-tiger-woods-...
Nov 28, 2009 – Too bad the ching-chong, nig-nog didn't die. We are all sick of hearing about him because he is “black.” Roger B. November 29th, 2009 - 12:10 ...

Breitbart.tv » Cops Cite Utah Teens for Rapping Order at McDonald's
tv.breitbart.com/cops-cite-utah-teens-for-rapping-order-at-mcdonalds/
Oct 31, 2009 – Terry October 31st, 2009 - 12:21 pm. Those innocent kids! Riiiiiight. They already have the nig-nog mentality. Chances are they were asses and ...

Breitbart.tv » Awkward: Barbara Walters Presses Food Network's ...
tv.breitbart.com/awkward-barbara-walters-presses-food-networks-pa...
Sep 26, 2009 – Why is that White woman talking like a nig nog? Those are cupcakes, not muffins. American Dude September 27th, 2009 - 12:10 am ...

Breitbart.tv » Report: Tiger Woods' Injuries Caused by Jealous Wife
tv.breitbart.com/report-tiger-woods-injuries-caused-by-jealous-wife/
Nov 28, 2009 – What do you expect from a nig-nog? dibro November 29th, 2009 - 12:13 am. Honey Moon Must be Over. Do the tea leaves reveal a new reality ...

Tommy Thayer - Topics - Breitbart.com
topics.breitbart.com/Tommy+Thayer/
8 posts - Apr 30, 2011
... [Link: t.co...] via @grooveshark. Twitter: @Zz_Alec_zZ. Hey Nignogs I'm on tommy Thayer's website :-) [Link: t.co...] Twitter: @ ...
Breitbart.tv » How Did Obama Know About 'Fast And Furious' Before ...
tv.breitbart.com/how-did-obama-know-about-fast-and-furious-befor...
Oct 13, 2011 – NIGNOGS. KusoJiJi October 13th, 2011 - 5:20 pm. Obama and Holder are a pair that can't beat Ace high. As an American citizen I hope ...

Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » Daily Gut: The Death of Awareness
bighollywood.breitbart.com/.../daily-gut-raising-awareness-about-aw...
Jul 20, 2009 – Wth the myriad issues now threatening to derail this Republic and set us on a course to being Europe or some other nig-nog nation now would ...

Breitbart.tv » Group Alleges Racially-Motivated Election Night ...
tv.breitbart.com/group-alleges-racially-motivated-election-night-attac...
Nov 22, 2008 – so typical. the nignogs are lining up to get their reparations as directed by the NAACP and N.O.I.. its always about race with blacks so I think its ...

144 The Yankee  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:37:16am

re: #140 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR

Thanks for the report. It seems that wiki's English article on this seems to have a prejudice toward the Red Flag Theory.

I might contact you in the future. I am going to THE Ukraine in the near future. See how it goes there. I am probably going to be attacked just for calling it THE Ukraine, lol. I am just going to be real careful and not go out at night or look any one in the eye.

145 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:39:05am

re: #144 The Yankee

You're always welcome.

It is of course better if you have acquaintances to guide you around SPb. (I was born there, BTW).

146 The Yankee  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:41:23am

re: #145 I'm Ronery Dear Reader, Hear Me ROR

Yea there is a woman, and there is a friends family that lives out there. This will be the father East in Europe I have ever been. And i am going to more then one country. If things get too rough for me in Ukraine I will just have to cut it short and go to a more friendlier country. Which will probably be west of Germany.

147 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:42:37am

re: #146 The Yankee

Yea there is a woman, and there is a friends family that lives out there. This will be the father East in Europe I have ever been. And i am going to more then one country. If things get too rough for me in Ukraine I will just have to cut it short and go to a more friendlier country. Which will probably be west of Germany.

Good luck in your travel!

148 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:55:33am

re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist

I had a brief discussion with couple of Paulpeople on ABL, and they kept doing that thing they do about 'research'. I asked where I might 'research' Ron Paul, since they appeared to think that Google was a bad source. I was referred to:

1. Ron Paul's site

and 2. YouTube, where there are many videos of Ron Paul saying stuff.

The newsletters are not a good source, because Ron Paul says he didn't write them.

Anything written by, or alleged to be written by someone who's not Ron Paul isn't 'research', it's 'falling for lies and propaganda'.

I think a lot of them are very, very young.

I think my questions would be:

1. Ron P. does HTML, JavaScript, CSS and the like or does someone else write that for him?

2. He records himself and posts it on YouTube, or does someone else do that?

If he didn't do those things himself, wouldn't that still be 'falling for lies and propaganda' that he just put his name on?


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