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1 Gus  Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:13:20pm
2 engineer cat  Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:18:00pm

any resemblance of maxwell smart to ricky santorum is purely unintentional

3 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:31:54pm

For a terror-loving commie, Obama is sure tough on the Talib brethren:

US missile strike kills 6 people in NW Pakistan

4 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:38:48pm

Eek! Things are not so great for free speech in Ecuador. Their pipsqueak communard prez, Rafael Correa, sure is thin-skinned, and now their high court says he can jail opposition newspapermen for "libeling" him:

Ecuador court upholds pro-Correa libel verdict

— Ecuador's highest court upheld early Thurday a criminal libel verdict favoring President Rafael Correa, including three-year prison terms for three executives and a columnist of the opposition newspaper El Universo, and a total of $42 million in damages.
The defendants, joined by international press freedom and human rights groups, have called the case a blatant attempt by Correa to bankrupt the paper and part of a concerted campaign by Ecuador's populist president to stifle free speech and silence critics.
After a 13 1/2-hour final hearing, the three-judge panel of the National Court of Justice deliberated nearly two hours before ratifying the verdict, which was first handed down in July and ratified by an appeals court last month.

5 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:42:24pm

What an odd news day. I am still laughing to the point of tears over the Heartland Institute story.

"It's not a real policy, but anyone we find who got hold of it will be sent to prison."

OK, guys, which is it?

And Sarah? Oh, please jump in, you ill-read Caribou Barbie.

And Frothy Mix is busting Mittens' balls, without money or on-the-ground professional staff. Mr. Inevitable has got to be chewing his arm off in frustration.

Good times!

6 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:56:10pm

Watched the Rachel Maddow show earlier. Strange news indeed. It looks like Romney may not have won in Maine after all. There was apparently some serious hanky-panky in reporting some returns. 18 towns-worth were not included at all in the final tally, being registered as "zero," even though officials in those towns claim to have reported their results the night of the election. Some of those areas are believed to have gone heavily for Ron Paul. Romney's margin over Paul was less than 200 votes in the suspect results.
Something fishy in the state of Maine
Conspiracy-prone Paul-bots will go absolutely bug-eyed over this one.

7 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:57:44pm

re: #6 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

Watched the Rachel Maddow show earlier. Strange news indeed. It looks like Romney may not have won in Maine after all. There was apparently some serious hanky-panky in reporting some returns. 18 towns-worth were not included at all in the final tally, being registered as "zero," even though officials in those towns claim to have reported their results the night of the election. Some of those areas are believed to have gone heavily for Ron Paul. Romney's margin over Paul was less than 200 votes in the suspect results.
Something fishy in the state of Maine
Conspiracy-prone Paul-bots will go absolutely bug-eyed over this one.

Good! 9/11 was an inside job, after all.

//

8 Gus  Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:59:19pm
9 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 15, 2012 11:04:48pm

re: #7 austin_blue

Good! 9/11 was an inside job, after all.

//

Oddly, I haven't heard from any of the Paul-bots I know since this broke. They have either been abducted by black helicopters or they are too shocked at their good fortune to say anything. It's not every day that Rachel Maddow reports something that favors their guy. A rigged election is still an offense against democracy even if Satan is the victim (I think he last ran in Nevada).

10 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 15, 2012 11:12:15pm

Willard Romney has got to be feeling like the captain of the Titanic right now. He is on top of the world, all but crowned as the GOP nominee, then he loses three in a row to Foamy and might very well lose one to Ron Paul. It must be like going out with the prom queen only to have her ditch you in favor of a tryst at the Motel 6 with the class nerd.

11 Four More Tears  Wed, Feb 15, 2012 11:14:18pm

re: #9 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

Yeah, it is damn weird that they pick now to shut up.

12 Four More Tears  Wed, Feb 15, 2012 11:39:50pm

Finally got around to watching this week's Walking Dead. Love that they played Clutch in the end. :-)

13 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Feb 15, 2012 11:59:30pm

re: #9 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

Oddly, I haven't heard from any of the Paul-bots I know since this broke. They have either been abducted by black helicopters or they are too shocked at their good fortune to say anything. It's not every day that Rachel Maddow reports something that favors their guy. A rigged election is still an offense against democracy even if Satan is the victim (I think he last ran in Nevada).

they were all stoned ...

14 freetoken  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 12:02:39am
15 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 12:31:01am

Orbital, in the bagpipe style.

16 austin_blue  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 12:33:02am

Wow.

The drought this last year in Texas has stressed trees to an incredible degree. Ten minutes ago, a 60 foot post oak next door fell over. At least 50 years old. It took out half of the front porch of the house to the west, crushed a fence, and generally did a lot of mayhem.

Two feet in diameter, that's a lot of weight.

17 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 12:43:27am
18 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 12:56:36am

re: #10 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

Willard Romney has got to be feeling like the captain of the Titanic right now. He is on top of the world, all but crowned as the GOP nominee, then he loses three in a row to Foamy and might very well lose one to Ron Paul. It must be like going out with the prom queen only to have her ditch you in favor of a tryst at the Motel 6 with the class nerd.

As bad as he's feeling, imagine how the GOP leadership's feeling right now. Mittens was their boy, the guy they'd chosen to bear the flag this go around, and yet he's lost more primaries than he's won. Even now, Santorum's beating him 9% in Michigan and within ten points in Arizona, both states that were solidly in Romney's pocket a month ago. He has to come from behind and take both, or else he might as well start writing his concession speech.

19 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 1:00:42am

re: #18 Targetpractice

As bad as he's feeling, imagine how the GOP leadership's feeling right now. Mittens was their boy, the guy they'd chosen to bear the flag this go around, and yet he's lost more primaries than he's won. Even now, Santorum's beating him 9% in Michigan and within ten points in Arizona, both states that were solidly in Romney's pocket a month ago. He has to come from behind and take both, or else he might as well start writing his concession speech.

Even if Wilard pulls this out, there will be a feeling among a lot of the GOP base that he was foisted on them against their wishes, which means there will be a singular lack of enthusiasm for him on the campaign trail and at the polls

20 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 1:06:15am

re: #19 Ministry of Fairness and Balance

Even if Wilard pulls this out, there will be a feeling among a lot of the GOP base that he was foisted on them against their wishes, which means there will be a singular lack of enthusiasm for him on the campaign trail and at the polls

True enough, hence their recent stunts in Congress. Their plan of attack seems to be riling up the base with as many "outrages" as it takes to get them "energized" for the fight against Obama. Problem with this strategy? Their first foray, the battle against contraception, is more likely to piss off female Republicans than it is to get them to show up at the polls.

21 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 1:09:23am

re: #20 Targetpractice

True enough, hence their recent stunts in Congress. Their plan of attack seems to be riling up the base with as many "outrages" as it takes to get them "energized" for the fight against Obama. Problem with this strategy? Their first foray, the battle against contraception, is more likely to piss off female Republicans than it is to get them to show up at the polls.

There was that quote from Grover Norquist at the CPAC that they don't need a thinker, they just need someone to sign off on their policy.

22 Alexzander  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 1:13:26am

Evening folks. Keep me company as I begin a nightshift.

23 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 1:14:37am

re: #21 Ministry of Fairness and Balance

There was that quote from Grover Norquist at the CPAC that they don't need a thinker, they just need someone to sign off on their policy.

His statement, IIRC, went something like "Romney will do what he's told," which was his way of assuring the faithful that they don't have to worry about Mittens personal views, he'll sign whatever the Tea Party puts before him if he knows what's good for him.

Really, the signal being sent now seems to be that the Right has all but given up on winning the presidency and now is focused on winning Congress or at least maintaining their current numbers. Problem with that is that all the remaining candidates are different flavors of poison.

24 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 1:21:05am

Charles Pierce over at Esquire sums up the GOP race nicely:

This is a speech that should disqualify Santorum not only from any serious consideration as president of the United States, it should be enough to send him so far into the fringes of American politics that he'd have to dial 1 to contact Fred Karger. Within this speech, there are a couple of dozen potential attack ads for any candidate willing to run against Santorum on the Not Insane, Not A Dick platform. This is a speech that has presented Willard Romney with an entire school of very big fish in very small barrels. But he has put himself into a position where he cannot defend the actual science of global warming. He cannot plausibly defend the facts behind the history of the country. He cannot plausibly defend even in a pale and nervous fashion the privacy rights of 51 percent of the American population. But, because of the candidate he's made of himself, Romney cannot plausibly stand for reason, or even for sanity.

This is your democracy, America. Cherish it.

25 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 1:26:35am

re: #24 Lidane

Also, to follow Pierce's analogy that Romney is the Death Star to everyone else's Alderaan, it's worth noting that the Death Star got blown up twice. That's probably not a good sign for Mitt.

26 researchok  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 1:27:24am

Morning, all

27 researchok  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 1:28:24am

re: #17 Jimmah

Singer Shakira 'attacked' by sea lion

needs a page, really/

With the header, SPECIAL REPORT"
//

28 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 1:28:30am

re: #26 researchok

Morning, all

Morning, researchok.

29 researchok  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 1:33:36am

How's life, Tovarisch?

30 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 1:37:47am

re: #24 Lidane

Charles Pierce over at Esquire sums up the GOP race nicely:

The editorial itself is fraking hilarious, but the first comment is the cherry on top.

First it was Jack Ryan, otherwise known as the guy who WASN'T satisfied just getting to nail Seven of Nine, but had to try to get her to kink it up. Then it was Alan Keyes, who overachieved getting 10 percent of the vote. Then it was McCain/Palin, who campaigned like they didn't even KNOW they were in a paper bag. And now Santorum and Gingrich will either overtake Romney or damage him to the point of hilarity. The question is: Did Obama sell his soul or just 10 years of his life?

31 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 1:41:29am

re: #30 Targetpractice

The editorial itself is fraking hilarious, but the first comment is the cherry on top.

I'm reading more of this guy right now and laughing my ass off. He has a glorious post about Sarah Palin getting nominated at a brokered convention and he starts with this:

I'm telling you, Jesus and I are not good enough friends for Him to bless me with a brokered Republican convention, much less one pitting The Smart One against Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods.

The comments are great, too.

32 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 1:50:05am

re: #29 researchok

How's life, Tovarisch?

We're all happy and satisfied in the Motherland thanks to Dear Leader Putin and Dear Leader Jr. Medvedev.

33 researchok  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:01:41am

re: #32 All

We're all happy and satisfied in the Motherland thanks to Dear Leader Putin and Dear Leader Jr. Medvedev.

I was told you could be found here, but I couldn't pick you out.

34 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:04:01am

re: #33 researchok

I was told you could be found here, but I couldn't pick you out.

I saw several of those posters on sale at the Lenin Museum in Tampere, Finland the other week.

[Link: www.lenin.fi...]

Inspiring place.

35 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:05:28am

re: #33 researchok

I was told you could be found here, but I couldn't pick you out.

That is us, yes.

36 researchok  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:05:45am

re: #34 Ministry of Fairness and Balance

I don't know if I'd use the word 'inspiring' to describe Lenin...

37 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:07:08am

re: #33 researchok

[Link: www.allposters.com...]

38 researchok  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:08:44am

re: #37 All

Powerful.

Unbreakable.

I especially like the suits.

39 researchok  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:10:45am

Later. all

40 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:16:41am

re: #36 researchok

I don't know if I'd use the word 'inspiring' to describe Lenin...

I found it inspiring in that the Finns do not take it too damn seriously. All the signs leading to the museum show Lenin with a raised arm, pointing the way, and among the souveniers on offer was a Lenin bust with a Leningrad Cowboys coiff.

41 Steve  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:33:53am

Broke out the old 'Bloom County' books, blew off the dust and started reading:

"It always will happen around about three
When the dark and the quiet
Wrap thick 'round me...

While my mind is all sludgy,
Totally smudgy-fudgy...

My role in the cosmos
will start t' seem fuzzy.

In ten zillion miles
of empty space and time,

Where does Ronald-Ann fit
with her pigtails and rhymes?

Why, in ten billion years
of things evolutionizing
There's been just six years of me!
(It's so disillusionizing...)

so around about dawn,
feeling as puny as can be...

I'll turn on Morton Downey,
And watch folks even punier then me.

42 EdDantes  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:17:12am

re: #36 researchok

Lenin was fine until he met Yoko.

43 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:25:47am

Good Morning Honcos!

44 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:26:17am

re: #42 EdDantes

Lenin was fine until he met Yoko.

45 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:26:57am

re: #42 EdDantes

Lenin was fine until he met Yoko.

If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow.

46 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:36:46am

I GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS!!!

47 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:41:39am

re: #46 Ministry of Fairness and Balance

I GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS!!!

Warum?

48 EdDantes  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:44:03am

I got the white album for Christmas when I was 13. I had the poster and photos on the wall and played the hell out the album everyday. Then I bought it on eight track 4 years later. Then cassette. Then CD...?

49 EdDantes  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:46:46am

re: #47 e_e

Warum?

It's a Beatles white album reference, Spoken by Ringo on the Helter Skelter cut.

50 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:47:31am

re: #49 EdDantes

Yeah, I looked it up.

51 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:50:28am

re: #49 EdDantes

It's a Beatles white album reference, Spoken by Ringo on the Helter Skelter cut.

I always thought that was John...

52 EdDantes  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:56:30am

re: #51 Ministry of Fairness and Balance

I always thought that was John...

I thought it was John for over 30 years until I heard from an authoritative source it was Ringo.

53 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:57:58am

re: #52 EdDantes

I thought it was John for over 30 years until I heard from an authoritative source it was Ringo.

Man, to me that was always John's ultimate pholoshophical statement on life, art and music. I will have to go back correct it in all my quotes now...

54 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:58:56am

re: #53 Ministry of Fairness and Balance

Man, to me that was always John's ultimate pholoshophical statement on life, art and music. I will have to go back correct it in all my quotes now...

Paul would have said it, but he was dead.

55 EdDantes  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:00:56am

re: #54 Decatur Deb

Paul would have said it, but he was dead.

The Walrus was Paul.

56 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:02:53am

re: #55 EdDantes

The Walrus was Paul.

I could be the walrus, I could be a fascist anarchist. It still wouldn't change the fact that I don't own a car.

57 EdDantes  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:07:07am

re: #56 Son You got a panty on your head.

Indeed, Ferris.

58 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:07:51am

Cluster migraines freaking suck.

59 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:10:49am

re: #58 Obdicut

Cluster migraines freaking suck.

There are drugs. You should see a medical person.

60 Flounder  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:20:45am

re: #58 Obdicut
I promise not to type in caps/
Hope you feel better bro.

61 RogueOne  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:45:51am

Is it really necessary to "fact-check" tv dramas?

'Glee' says the Census Bureau projects the majority of Americans will use Spanish by 2030
[Link: www.politifact.com...]

Spoiler: Ricky Martin=Pants on Fire!

62 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:49:40am

re: #55 EdDantes

The Walrus was Paul.

He had blisters on his flippers.

63 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:49:44am

re: #59 Decatur Deb

There are drugs. You should see a medical person.

I get them infrequently, and I've never found a medication that's not more dehabilitating than the cure, except for, well, natural herbal remedies.

Anyway, they're over now, I'm just in the tired, drawn-out phase afterwards.

One of my cats sometimes gets ready to mercy-kill me when I'm sick. He crouches nearby, looking at me, ready to bite me in the back of the neck if it comes to that.

64 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:51:07am

re: #58 Obdicut

Cluster migraines freaking suck.

You get them too?
Sorry man.

65 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:54:17am

re: #63 Obdicut

I get them infrequently, and I've never found a medication that's not more dehabilitating than the cure, except for, well, natural herbal remedies.

Anyway, they're over now, I'm just in the tired, drawn-out phase afterwards.

One of my cats sometimes gets ready to mercy-kill me when I'm sick. He crouches nearby, looking at me, ready to bite me in the back of the neck if it comes to that.

Sort of yanking your chain--your wife is a med student, no?

66 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:56:05am

[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]

Long story short: Drunk off-duty cop sees two hispanic brothers trying to stop a drunk dude from attacking a woman, the cop wades in, starts hitting people, and finally shoots both brothers, killing one of them. The cops don't let the dying man's wife stay in the ambulance with him, so she's not there when he dies. Unless there's a version of the story that's wildly different that the police will present, this is just fucking awful.

The kicker:

The family says Coronado was following "conflicting city policies" when he shot the brothers, "one policy requiring him to carry a firearm and intervene in all conflicts, and another policy prohibiting him from carrying his firearm and intervening after drinking."

67 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:56:27am

re: #65 Decatur Deb

Sort of yanking your chain--your wife is a med student, no?

Yep. Well, MD/PhD. In for the long haul.

68 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:59:47am

re: #58 Obdicut

Cluster migraines freaking suck.

Arthritis suck too. Thank G-D for vicodin.

69 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:00:06am
Once again the forces of virtue have triumphed over the forces of rottenness.
— Maxwell Smart

Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.
-Dark Helmet:

70 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:01:08am

Heh. And of course:

[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]

A black man claims Chicago police beat and arrested him for filming officers with his cell phone, but a white man recording the same scene was politely asked to put his camera away - and the plaintiff says he has it all on camera.

In Gillett's case, he says that one day in August 2011, he had finished work in downtown Chicago when he saw a disturbance involving Chicago police officers.

Gillett, a 29-year-old union steel worker, says he "gathered with other onlookers and began filming the scene with his cellular telephone."

"As plaintiff was recording, defendant Sergeant Thompson approached a Caucasian male who was also video recording the police activity and politely asked him to stop filming. This interaction was recorded by plaintiff's cellular phone.

"Shortly thereafter, defendant Thompson approached plaintiff (who is black) and physically assaulted him, grabbed his phone, swore at him, pulled and dragged him to the hood of a police care, kneed and kicked him, and then handcuffed him.

"Defendant officers searched the person and clothes of plaintiff.

"The entire incident was recorded on plaintiff's cellular telephone."

His attorney Hamilton told Courthouse News: "You see the same police officer walk up to a white guy filming on a cell phone - the same officer - approach the guy and say, 'Put the video down.' The white guy actually has a video camera. The officer gives him the thumbs up and walks away.

"My client got this on film. Thirty seconds later, my client takes the white guy's place, and the cop basically tackles him, swears at him, etc. And of course, my client is black. It's a very clear example of how the police treat people completely differently because of the way they look."

In his complaint, Gillett says he "was brought back to the police station, where defendant officers charged plaintiff with resisting arrest, a Class A misdemeanor for which he faced a possible one-year jail sentence.

Classic. Arresting a guy for resisting arrest. Cops never get tired of the irony of that one.

71 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:02:05am

re: #66 Obdicut

OK. This is the kind of shit Gus was talking about yesterday. Shot because they're Hispanics, basically?

72 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:04:59am

re: #71 e_e

OK. This is the kind of shit Gus was talking about yesterday. Shot because they're Hispanics, basically?

I doubt it, since I think the officer was Hispanic himself. More shot because the cop didn't have the sense to realize that he was drunk, and the city didn't have a clear policy about locking away your firearm when you're a cop who's drunk, and had a policy that an off-duty cop needed to intervene in any fight.

Assuming the story, as given by the plaintiffs, is true, but since it involves a lot of witnesses I doubt they'd be fabricating anything at this point.

73 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:06:44am
74 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:09:27am

re: #72 Obdicut

OK, I stand corrected. You mentioned their ethnicity, so I thought it had something to do with it.

75 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:09:31am

And in good news, this guy is actually doing some time:

[Link: www.fox5sandiego.com...]

One of the women he assaulted is a friend of a friend.

A former San Diego police officer accused of trying to elicit sex from seven women he pulled over in the Gaslamp District was convicted of eight felony counts and four misdemeanors Thursday.

Jurors found Anthony Arevalos, 41, guilty of multiple counts of asking for a bribe, and assault and battery by a police officer.

However, Arevalos was acquitted of other serious charges, including sexual battery by restraint charges, and while he was found guilty of false imprisonment, those counts were reduced to misdemeanors.

He should have been found guilty on the other charges as well, but at least he's actually getting prison time.


And I'd like to conclude with the note that most cops work a thankless job, dealing with boring, annoying, tiresome crap, and that they enact the political will of the DA and their superiors. I'm not trying to weave an anti-cop narrative; I think cops would benefit from being more proactive about getting rid of the bad elements in their midst.

I am absolutely sure other cops knew about Arevalos pulling this scam on women.

76 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:10:42am

re: #73 Varek Raith

Mitt Romney: I Would Have Rescued Detroit, Too!
...

If not for you meddling kids?

77 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:11:15am

re: #74 e_e

OK, I stand corrected. You mentioned their ethnicity, so I thought it had something to do with it.

Oh, I think it does factor into it, I just don't think the cop was out to shoot him a Hispanic guy. I think that the level of perceived threat is still affected, even if you're of the same race.

78 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:12:12am

re: #73 Varek Raith

Mitt Romney: I Would Have Rescued Detroit, Too!
...

Poor Mitt can't get no lovin'. The realists at Intrade still have him at 7:3 to get the nomination.

79 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:13:28am

re: #73 Varek Raith

Mitt Romney: I Would Have Rescued Detroit, Too!
...

It's getting to be crunch time for Mittens. Michigan and Arizona are fast approaching, both assumed as recently as a month ago to be Romney's for the taking, and he's now trailing Santorum by 9 in the former and only ahead by 7 in the latter. If he doesn't work some magic and pull off solid wins in both, he's finished.

80 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:14:43am

re: #79 Targetpractice

If the Maine caucus results boil up and become A Thing that could be really bad for him. I'm assuming it's Paulbot exaggeration at the moment but who knows.

81 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:17:51am

re: #79 Targetpractice

Much rather have the President face Santorum, but then I think an eagle could drop a clam on Obama's head and...

82 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:18:00am
83 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:18:07am

re: #80 Obdicut

If the Maine caucus results boil up and become A Thing that could be really bad for him. I'm assuming it's Paulbot exaggeration at the moment but who knows.

If it does turn out that he lost to Paul, and subsequently loses in Michigan to Santorum, I'm not really sure how Romney can revive his campaign. The only thing he's had going for him so far has been the "inevitability" of his nomination, that the party was always going to settle on him in the end. He loses that, there's really nothing left for him.

84 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:20:19am

re: #83 Targetpractice

Hillary all over again. I was always chuckling a bit when people were assuring that Romney is the inevitable nominee. He may as well become one, but nothing is inevitable anymore.

85 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:24:31am

re: #84 e_e

Hillary all over again. I was always chuckling a bit when people were assuring that Romney is the inevitable nominee. He may as well become one, but nothing is inevitable anymore.

I still somewhat believe that he will ultimately be the nominee, but not as sure as I was even a month ago. It was sort of predictable that, as the list of "Not Romneys" thinned out, there would be migration from those who jumped ship to those who were still in the race. But the move from Newt to Santorum seems to have been timed just right to serve as a spoiler in primaries that Romney would have to win to be seen as "viable."

86 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:25:17am

Morning Lizardim.

88 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:27:00am

Who's the second guy on the right?

89 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:28:18am

re: #88 e_e

Who's the second guy on the right?

That's former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty.

90 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:29:30am

Upchuck Norris chooses Newt over "Romney supporter" Santorum.

[Link: www.wnd.com...]

91 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:30:53am

re: #89 thedopefishlives

That's former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty.

Damn, he's almost unrecognizable here - well at least to me.

92 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:31:32am

re: #87 e_e

heh

Image: newt_TeamNewt_RG.jpg

Where's his rock star? Gotta have a rock star.

93 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:32:07am

re: #89 thedopefishlives

That's former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty.

Nope, looked it up. It's Michael Reagan.

94 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:32:19am

re: #92 Decatur Deb

Where's his rock star? Gotta have a rock star.

He's the rock star.

95 RogueOne  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:32:33am

re: #89 thedopefishlives

That's former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty.

That's not pawlenty is it? I thought he endorsed Romney?

96 RogueOne  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:33:13am

Speaking of Pawlenty, I bet he feels like an idiot for dropping out.

97 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:33:39am

Oh, this is good.

98 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:33:55am

First Iowa, now Maine.
WTH is going on, GOP???

99 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:34:01am

re: #94 e_e

He's the rock star.

He's done the groupies, but he's never properly trashed an hotel suite.

100 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:34:15am

re: #97 e_e

If Romney's smart, he'll use it.

101 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:35:00am

re: #96 RogueOne

Speaking of Pawlenty, I bet he feels like an idiot for dropping out.

Hey, it's not late yet! *wink wink* *starbursts*

102 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:35:07am

re: #96 RogueOne

Speaking of Pawlenty, I bet he feels like an idiot for dropping out.

Actually, I think if there's anybody right now who's kicking themselves, it's Huckabee. He'd have all this sewn up right now, gearing up for the general election.

103 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:40:29am

re: #93 e_e

Nope, looked it up. It's Michael Reagan.

Hmm. It looked enough like him. But again, I'm a transplant and I don't know him very well.

104 EdDantes  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:42:26am

re: #97 e_e

They are politicians. Don't hold their words against them. Their words are meaningless.

105 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:43:37am

Oldie but goodie. This was #1 in the charts in 1885.

106 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:44:58am

re: #104 EdDantes

They are politicians. Don't hold their words against them. Their words are meaningless.

Yeah, I know. But holding their words against them is fair, politically. Also, someone like Santorum is supposedly this totally sincere, if wacky, guy who doesn't shy away from extreme views for the sake of truth, etc. etc.

107 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:45:56am

re: #56 Son You got a panty on your head.

I could be the walrus, I could be a fascist anarchist. It still wouldn't change the fact that I don't own a car.

Baby you can drive my car

PS: beep beep beep beep yea

108 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:46:35am

And who can forget this hit from 1881? Forefather of all electronic music, surely.

109 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:46:54am

re: #66 Obdicut

[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]

:

The family says Coronado was following "conflicting city policies" when he shot the brothers, "one policy requiring him to carry a firearm and intervene in all conflicts, and another policy prohibiting him from carrying his firearm and intervening after drinking."

There is no conflict in that: drugs and guns do not mix, even in the hands of a policeman

110 EdDantes  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:49:24am

re: #107 RayFerd

From the Yesterday and Today album.

111 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:52:07am

Daytime stuff--BBL

112 EdDantes  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:53:05am

re: #105 e_e

I rate it an 85: It's got a good beat but you can't dance to it.

113 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:53:40am

re: #112 EdDantes

I rate it an 85: It's got a good beat but you can't dance to it.

brrrrr!

114 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:58:46am

Morning Lizards. I was debating on wether to go to this, but have decided not to. Going to be way to many kids there.

Beth Pendergrass, spokeswoman for the Twin Falls School District, said some Twin Falls High teachers might bring their classes to the auditorium for Paul’s speech. An opt-out form for those classes was sent home for parents to sign.

Other students wanting to attend have to bring a written note to school today from their parent.

And here is a interesting tidbit that I bet RP just loves.

Seventeen-year-olds will be able to vote in Idaho’s first Republican Party presidential caucus, as long as they’ll turn 18 before the November presidential election.

115 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:59:39am

re: #114 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards. I was debating on wether to go to this, but have decided not to. Going to be way to many kids there.

Beth Pendergrass, spokeswoman for the Twin Falls School District, said some Twin Falls High teachers might bring their classes to the auditorium for Paul’s speech. An opt-out form for those classes was sent home for parents to sign.

Other students wanting to attend have to bring a written note to school today from their parent.

And here is a interesting tidbit that I bet RP just loves.

Seventeen-year-olds will be able to vote in Idaho’s first Republican Party presidential caucus, as long as they’ll turn 18 before the November presidential election.

Because the young and impressionable, or the old and senile, are about the only voters that Luap Nor can attract. That right there should say something.

116 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:06:19am

re: #114 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards. I was debating on wether to go to this, but have decided not to. Going to be way to many kids there.

Beth Pendergrass, spokeswoman for the Twin Falls School District, said some Twin Falls High teachers might bring their classes to the auditorium for Paul’s speech. An opt-out form for those classes was sent home for parents to sign.

Other students wanting to attend have to bring a written note to school today from their parent.

And here is a interesting tidbit that I bet RP just loves.

Seventeen-year-olds will be able to vote in Idaho’s first Republican Party presidential caucus, as long as they’ll turn 18 before the November presidential election.

I'm sorry, but if the teachers want to attend, then call in sick or dead, but don't make kids have to choose between sitting through a rant from Crazy Uncle Ron or doing book work in a deserted classroom.

117 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:06:47am

re: #115 thedopefishlives

Yep. I will laugh my ass off if Paul manages to take Idaho.

118 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:14:57am

Morning all!

Meerkittehs!

how is everyone?

119 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:18:43am

re: #118 ggt

Doing good. But you link is broke.

120 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:19:03am

re: #109 Ministry of Fairness and Balance

The family says Coronado was following "conflicting city policies" when he shot the brothers, "one policy requiring him to carry a firearm and intervene in all conflicts, and another policy prohibiting him from carrying his firearm and intervening after drinking."

There is no conflict in that: drugs and guns do not mix, even in the hands of a policeman

Absotarutily!

121 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:21:11am

re: #92 Decatur Deb

Where's his rock star? Gotta have a rock star.

Is that Callista with brown hair on the end?

and

Who needs a rock star when you have Chuck Norris?

122 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:21:56am

re: #119 Bubblehead II

Doing good. But you link is broke.

It's morning, I'm sorry.
Meerkittehs.

In nomine Pasta, et Fettucini, et Spiritu Ziti

123 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:27:49am

Greece is an economic and social tinderbox.

[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

Seems to me this could be a good time for Israel to look for trade opportunities with Greece that could help both economies and also foster some closer relations. As Bob Levin says, trade is the most important sign of good relations.

124 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:43:22am

Later Lizards, Stuff to do today.

125 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:49:31am

Where is everyone?

126 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:51:12am

re: #125 ggt

Workin' to pay the cat food bill.

127 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:52:52am

Good morning lizards!

I just got gas at Kroger...3.06/gal.

128 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:53:01am

The Spirit of the Republican Party Addresses the Base:

"Now, look, y'all; I know Santorum is one of us and warms the cockles of any bigot's heart; and Ron Paul lets you give the finger to them Jews and blacks, but we have to face facts. Either one of them would get an epic beat-down if he won the nomination and tried to go against the Kenyan usurper. You've had your fun, so it's time to sober up, get back to work and put Willard Mitt in the White House so we can chip away at socialism, shariah law, loose women, and the minimum wage from there."

129 Talking Point Detective  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:55:37am

I'm hoping that lizard brain-power can be put to helping to deconstruct the "fake" document claims about the Heartland documents.

If the one document is a "fake," it does make sense to be as far out in front of that as possible.

Here's a post from WUWT? that pretty well-summarizes the current state of the "fake" document perspective.

[Link: wattsupwiththat.com...]

130 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:59:38am

Ron Paul and Mister Rogers: Separated at birth?

What do politics and children’s television have in common?

The simplicity of a sweater.

Have you noted that GOP candidate Ron Paul bears a striking resemblance to legendary children’s television icon Mister Rogers?

For nearly forty years, television show Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood captivated millions of children with its educational and social principles and the super-smooth transition from work clothes to the trademark sweater, all while singing the theme song, which asks the viewer “would you be my neighbor?”

131 darthstar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:11:54am

First time Jobless Claims fell again...now at their lowest since March of 2008. For those who may have forgotten, Barack Obama wasn't President yet in March of 2008 and all the economic woes of this country were still Bill Clinton's fault.

132 darthstar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:21:19am

re: #127 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

I just got gas at Kroger...3.06/gal.

That's a buck less than I pay.

133 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:23:42am

re: #132 darthstar

That's a buck less than I pay.

It's 3.26 on the sign. When you scan your Kroger card you save 20 cents. The rest of the gas stations around here are at 3.39.

134 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:23:46am

re: #132 darthstar

That's a buck less than I pay.

About 50 cents less than here in the wild north country. Though thanks to a local promotion, I managed to snag a $0.20/gal coupon which I used to great effect when I refueled The Mrs. Fishmobile yesterday.

135 Interesting Times  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:23:53am

Are we on the subject of gas prices? Three GOP Senators are trying to make them go much, much higher so John Boehner's investments make more money. They're also jeopardizing US National Security and emboldening Iran in the process:

In other words, unless the president approves Keystone, he cannot sell our emergency oil — even if Iran causes an oil supply disruption in the Strait of Hormuz, a hurricane or other disaster disables oil production or refining facilities, or any other type of event causes gasoline prices to soar above $4 per gallon. If any of these events happen, middle class Americans would pay significantly higher gasoline pump prices, giving billions of dollars more to big oil companies that made record profits last year.

136 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:25:04am

re: #126 Obdicut

Workin' to pay the cat food bill.

Wise, very wise.

137 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:33:14am

re: #135 Interesting Times

Are we on the subject of gas prices? Three GOP Senators are trying to make them go much, much higher so John Boehner's investments make more money. They're also jeopardizing US National Security and emboldening Iran in the process:

They really think that they can get away with this brinksmanship and still lay the blame for it at Obama's Door. he has quietly drawn a line in the sand and they are gonna get creamed if they do not stop acting like idjits.

139 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:35:10am

re: #135 Interesting Times

Are we on the subject of gas prices? Three GOP Senators are trying to make them go much, much higher so John Boehner's investments make more money. They're also jeopardizing US National Security and emboldening Iran in the process:

So we got oil prices already rising due to speculation and the GOP wants to fuel it by holding the SPR hostage unless their lobbyists get their pipeline approved, giving Iran an even greater edge than it previously had to fuck with our economy by blockading oil shipments?

Yeah, I'd say it's about time to start questioning their patriotism.

140 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:36:25am

re: #139 Targetpractice

So we got oil prices already rising due to speculation and the GOP wants to fuel it by holding the SPR hostage unless their lobbyists get their pipeline approved, giving Iran an even greater edge than it previously had to fuck with our economy by blockading oil shipments?

Yeah, I'd say it's about time to start questioning their patriotism.

That time has long since past. Questioning their patriotism? Hell, at this point, I'm questioning their damn humanity.

141 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:36:47am
142 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:37:00am

Sex offender registers Occupy Portland camp as address

PORTLAND, Ore. – A sex offender who registered his address with police as the Occupy Portland camp downtown is concerning some protesters who are camping there.

Raymond Allen Curtis registered the campsite at Lownsdale Square as his address with police last week. Curtis is from California.

“I think he should be outta here because there’s a lot of kids around here,” said protester Ravin James.

Ugh.

143 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:40:17am

re: #141 Lidane

What a racist piece of shit.

144 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:41:03am

re: #129 Talking Point Detective

I'm hoping that lizard brain-power can be put to helping to deconstruct the "fake" document claims about the Heartland documents.

If the one document is a "fake," it does make sense to be as far out in front of that as possible.

Here's a post from WUWT? that pretty well-summarizes the current state of the "fake" document perspective.

[Link: wattsupwiththat.com...]

I discuss some of the details in comments at desmogblog:

[Link: www.desmogblog.com...]

WUWT wrongly - I think - asserts that metadata has been deleted. Metadata is intact. The PDF was created by native EPSON scanning software. So that's not an argument for fakery.

However, I'm afraid we may have a repeat of the Rathergate. Sad, if so.

145 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:42:21am

re: #144 e_e

It's so unnecessary too, since pretty much everything in the reputed fraud is contained elsewhere.

They're only claiming the one doc was faked, right?

146 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:43:38am

Morning.

147 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:44:12am

Unbelievable. Chris Christie is actually having to push back against people who don't like the fact that he lowered the flags to half-staff as a tribute to Whitney Houston:

NJ gov strongly defends lowering flags for Houston

Gov. Chris Christie has strongly defended his decision to have flags flown at half-staff Saturday for Whitney Houston despite receiving emails and other messages disparaging the singer and criticizing him.
The Republican governor said Wednesday that he rejects complaints that Houston "forfeited the good things that she did" because of her struggles with substance abuse.

"What I would say to everybody is there but for the grace of God go I," he said.

148 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:44:39am

re: #142 NJDhockeyfan

Sex offender registers Occupy Portland camp as address

Ugh.

An isolated incident!
/

149 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:45:08am

Bad enough we have Occupy Wall Street to contend with. Now we've gotta deal with Brazil!

//

150 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:45:36am

re: #142 NJDhockeyfan

Sex offender registers Occupy Portland camp as address

Ugh.

I know, what kind of scumbag uses a false address for gain?

Maybe Ricky boy

151 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:46:00am

re: #142 NJDhockeyfan

Sex offender registers Occupy Portland camp as address

Ugh.

So a sexual predator from out of state was caught using an Occupy camp as his address and it's a reflection of the Occupy camp how, exactly?

153 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:46:12am

re: #145 Obdicut

It's so unnecessary too, since pretty much everything in the reputed fraud is contained elsewhere.

They're only claiming the one doc us faked, right?

Yes, and they're coy about other docs, saying that their president has to check them out yet (he's traveling), so they're not excluding they may have been altered.

"Fake but accurate" is a cliche laughing off the fact that the substance of the TANG memos was more or less correct. Of course, the memos became the story, not their substance. This may have been such a false flag operation by third-party deniers.

I'm not saying that the document is a fake, btw. But people sure as heck should not be running with it until it is authenticated.

154 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:46:43am

re: #135 Interesting Times

Are we on the subject of gas prices? Three GOP Senators are trying to make them go much, much higher so John Boehner's investments make more money. They're also jeopardizing US National Security and emboldening Iran in the process:

Gas prices wouldn't be so high if BP and Exxon executives didn't pay themselves such obscene bonuses from their obscene profits.

155 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:46:52am

re: #153 e_e

I agree. Everything should be in the 'we're checking it out' mode.

156 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:47:03am

Hey' It's a quarter to nine. Home come we're not invading Iran yet? And where's the latest news from Gaza? Come on. We should have boat loads of this by now.

157 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:47:07am

Last night, I drew an analogy between McCarthyism and the current mentality of the Republican base. Our friend Target Practice pointed out that certain influential GOP trend-setters have actually made a sustained effort to rehabilitate McCarthy in recent years, which is certainly not coincidence.

This analogy is common in certain circles, but I think the situation today may actually be much worse than in the 50s.
The original McCarthyism was narrowly focused on a monolithic enemy, the "communist conspiracy," a crude caricature of the actual communist threat in those days. Today's neo-McCarthyites have a broad array of causes to which they can apply the drunken senator's depraved methodology: Reproductive rights, gay rights, the Muslim community, and the education system are each the target of their own particular brand of McCarthyism. There are many other target niches as well, allowing McCarthyite methods and philosophy to be applied across a broad front. McCarthyism is not a specific ideology, except that its ultimate goal is always conformity and control. It is, rather, a method, a mindset for conducting and subverting public discourse to meet the ends of power.

158 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:48:32am

re: #156 Gus - Right Wing Conservative and Gargoyle

You imp! Or gargoyle.

/don't mind, luv ya ;)

159 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:48:44am

re: #156 Gus - Right Wing Conservative and Gargoyle

Hey' It's a quarter to nine. Home come we're not invading Iran yet? And where's the latest news from Gaza? Come on. We should have boat loads of this by now.

We're still figuring out a strategery to get around those damned F-14's.

160 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:48:54am
161 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:49:02am

re: #158 e_e

You imp! Or gargoyle.

/don't mind, luv ya ;)

Skoal?

//

162 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:49:55am

re: #161 Gus - Right Wing Conservative and Gargoyle

Skoal?

//

Za zdorovje!/

163 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:50:08am

re: #153 e_e

Yes, and they're coy about other docs, saying that their president has to check them out yet (he's traveling), so they're not excluding they may have been altered.

"Fake but accurate" is a cliche laughing off the fact that the substance of the TANG memos was more or less correct. Of course, the memos became the story, not their substance. This may have been such a false flag operation by third-party deniers.

I'm not saying that the document is a fake, btw. But people sure as heck should not be running with it until it is authenticated.

And who is in a position to authenticate them, the same people that want you to believe they are fake?

I also have the best health care remedy in the world, take my word for it and buy it, only $1000.00 a bottle.

165 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:51:25am

re: #160 NJDhockeyfan

Amy Kaplan would agree.

Ugh, This shit never changes.

166 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:51:51am

re: #163 RayFerd

Both at desmogblog and here I offered a possible authentication route through DKIM signatures.

167 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:52:30am

To wit:

I would like to give an advise for checking the authenticity of the PDF in question.

This method should work if the person used a major public email service like Google or Yahoo.

The person who has the original email should download it with some client like Outlook or Thunderbird (but not The Bat, which has a buggy export) and post it as an .eml file - with headers and all.

The crucial part of the email is the DKIM signature. It is added by all major servers and it verifies not only the body of the email, but also the attachments and the main headers. There are several online DKIM verification forms, so verifying should not be a problem. If it passes verification, then it was indeed sent out from HI.

168 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:54:01am

re: #165 Killgore Trout

Ugh, This shit never changes.

Yeah. In EVERY classroom.

Uh huh. Nice Fox News title.

169 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:55:15am

Shit. Shit never changes. /Fallout 7.

170 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:55:57am

re: #164 Killgore Trout

Man With Bombs Arrested as Kansas Anti-Immigrant Hearing Opens

Wow.

Saleh said the explosives were made with household materials and designed to spray shrapnel. He said the bombs were live, “actual explosives.”

The case and its possible connection to immigration recalled the arrest and eventual guilty plea of Jeffrey Harbin, a well-known neo-Nazi arrested in January 2011 near the Arizona-Mexico border. He was carrying 12 homemade grenade-like devices fitted with ball bearings, which were meant to “maximize human carnage,” as a prosecutor put it at the time. Details of Harbin’s plans were never made public.

I'm glad they're catching these guys, but shit, eventually one of them is going to get through.

171 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:57:41am

re: #156 Gus - Right Wing Conservative and Gargoyle

Hey' It's a quarter to nine. Home come we're not invading Iran yet? And where's the latest news from Gaza? Come on. We should have boat loads of this by now.

Now that you mention it, the rockets keep coming...
Israel strikes Gaza targets

The attacks early Thursday morning were in response to four rockets fired on southern Israel Wednesday night, according to a statement from the Israel Defense Forces spokesman.

The Air Force pilots reported direct hits on the targets. The targets were a Hamas training center in eastern Gaza and an Islamic Jihad training center in central Gaza, the Palestinian Ma'an news service reported. Six people were injured in the strikes, according to the report.

Haniya was in Iran just a few days ago vowing to continue his suicidal mission to destroy Israel.

172 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:58:07am

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Now that you mention it, the rockets keep coming...
Israel strikes Gaza targets

Haniya was in Iran just a few days ago vowing to continue his suicidal mission to destroy Israel.

Jawa mon.

173 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:58:29am

re: #170 Obdicut

Wow.

I'm glad they're catching these guys, but shit, eventually one of them is going to get through.

No shit. What goes through someone's mind that makes them want to kill innocent people?

174 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:59:27am

re: #164 Killgore Trout

Man With Bombs Arrested as Kansas Anti-Immigrant Hearing Opens

From the link:

The man’s truck had a specialty Florida license plate that is only issued to qualified U.S. military paratroopers. The AP said it also had a Special Forces sticker on its bumper and a sticker on its back window saying, “Does my American flag offend you? Call 1 800 LEAVE THE USA.”

Saleh said the explosives were made with household materials and designed to spray shrapnel. He said the bombs were live, “actual explosives.”

Yikes! It's unlikely that anyone but a real paratrooper could get those plates and also unlikely that a real para would claim SF affiliation if he doesn't have it. If this was an actual SF guy and not a flake, the bombs would be properly designed and built, and could have caused huge casualties. We could be seeing a big step up in the fieldcraft and operational competence of right-wing terrorism.

175 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:59:43am

Patrick Saleh? Relative of that Yemeni guy? Obviously a crypto-Shariist.

176 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 7:59:47am

re: #170 Obdicut

Wow.

I'm glad they're catching these guys, but shit, eventually one of them is going to get through.

We've been really lucky with terrorism lately. A lot of failed plots, FBI stings, poorly made bombs, etc. Our luck will run out eventually.

177 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:00:13am

re: #173 NJDhockeyfan

In this case, apparently "I really hate immigrants".

Dude was apparently a vet, there may be PTSD or other mental health issues. Or he might have been targeted for recruitment by neo-Nazis or other extremists after leaving the military, as was warned about in that Homeland Security report that got all the idiots so angry.

178 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:00:33am

re: #175 e_e

Patrick Saleh? Relative of that Yemeni guy? Obviously a crypto-Shariist.

Obama done it.

//

179 Talking Point Detective  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:01:42am

re: #144 e_e

I discuss some of the details in comments at desmogblog:

[Link: www.desmogblog.com...]

WUWT wrongly - I think - asserts that metadata has been deleted. Metadata is intact. The PDF was created by native EPSON scanning software. So that's not an argument for fakery.

However, I'm afraid we may have a repeat of the Rathergate. Sad, if so.

Thanks.

181 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:03:37am

re: #176 Killgore Trout

We've been really lucky with terrorism lately. A lot of failed plots, FBI stings, poorly made bombs, etc. Our luck will run out eventually.

While that is true, that still doesn't deter me from my stated goal of refusing to be properly terrified by these bastards.

182 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:06:23am

re: #180 Lidane

Denial-gate is gaining traction:

Microsoft Disavows Heartland Institute’s Climate Denial, Says Contributions Just ‘Free Software Licenses’

Good to know. Regardless of whether they're dissembling here, it is at least not popular to say that you support these twits.

183 Talking Point Detective  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:07:13am

re: #144 e_e

re: #144 e_e


I see that Sergey's on it. I'll wait to see if he comes to some kind of a conclusion before I feel confident one way or the other. He knows his shit.

184 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:07:29am

I suck. How do I change my nic? I wasn't here for that thread.
Morning Honcos.

185 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:07:52am

Terrorist family squabble...

Al Qaeda cell leader killed in family dispute

Sanaa, Yemen (CNN) -- Hundreds of Yemeni security forces deployed to the southwestern city of Rada Thursday after the leader of an al Qaeda-linked cell was killed by his older brother, sparking retaliatory attacks that also left the brother dead, security officials in the province told CNN.

Tareq al-Thahab headed a cell of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) that recently took over Rada, in al-Baitha province, and declared it an Islamic emirate.

Three provincial security officials said he was killed by his brother, Hizam al-Thahab, who was apparently angry about the murders Wednesday of the regional head of the national election committee and four other officials accompanying him -- killings in which he believed his brother may have been involved. Hizam al-Thabab reportedly feared that the assassinations of the elections officials would bring reprisal killings against the powerful al-Thahab tribe.

Tribal sources told CNN that Tareq al-Thahab was killed inside a mosque where he and four followers were seeking shelter.

The defense ministry and the governor of al-Baitha confirmed his death.

186 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:08:01am

re: #184 Cannadian Club Akbar

I suck. How do I change my nic? I wasn't here for that thread.
Morning Honcos.

Go to your account settings and you'll see it under Display Name.

187 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:08:05am

Have a great day all!

188 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:08:28am

re: #182 e_e

Good to know. Regardless of whether they're dissembling here, it is at least not popular to say that you support these twits.

Non-profits! Love it. Welcome to Murica.

189 Interesting Times  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:10:28am

re: #182 e_e

Good to know. Regardless of whether they're dissembling here, it is at least not popular to say that you support these twits.

If the Strategy document really is fake, why haven't they already proved it? Is the delay because they're scrambling for a way to fake such "proof"? Hey, I'm just asking questions... :P

190 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:11:15am

re: #177 Obdicut

In this case, apparently "I really hate immigrants".

Dude was apparently a vet, there may be PTSD or other mental health issues. Or he might have been targeted for recruitment by neo-Nazis or other extremists after leaving the military, as was warned about in that Homeland Security report that got all the idiots so angry.

Lone wolf (or false flag, take your pick) whose planned actions have absolutely nothing to do with the current political climate in the United States.*

* - Unless said person is claiming to be following the instructions of Obama or Osama Bin Laden.
///

191 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:11:25am

re: #186 thedopefishlives

Go to your account settings and you'll see it under Display Name.

OK. Did. Name no worky with password.

192 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:12:22am

re: #189 Interesting Times

If the Strategy document really is fake, why haven't they already proved it? Is the delay because they're scrambling for a way to fake such "proof"? Hey, I'm just asking questions... :P

Funny you should use that phrase, because speaking of the Twoofers, they are all atwitter over new evidence that shows that half of the 9/11 pilots were assigned to their aircraft at the last minute. What exactly this proves, they have yet to state, but it OBVIOUSLY means something nefarious was afoot, amirite?

193 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:12:26am

re: #189 Interesting Times

If the Strategy document really is fake, why haven't they already proved it? Is the delay because they're scrambling for a way to fake such "proof"? Hey, I'm just asking questions... :P

How should they prove it?

194 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:12:38am

re: #191 Cannadian Club Akbar

OK. Did. Name no worky with password.

Holy crap!! I am 6 karma points away from 31,00. Pony up you fuckers!!!
//half

195 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:12:53am

re: #182 e_e

Good to know. Regardless of whether they're dissembling here, it is at least not popular to say that you support these twits.

Doesn't matter what MS actually gave them. It just allowed the Heartland Institute to offset funds over into their denial schemes.
;)
Sauce for goose is sauce for gander.
//

196 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:13:52am

#VaginalInquisition

Brought to you by the Republican Party.

197 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:14:21am

re: #194 Cannadian Club Akbar

Umm, 31,000. I am stoopid.

198 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:15:23am

There. Much better.

199 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:15:40am

re: #196 Gus - Mercy Buckets

#VaginalInquisition

Brought to you by the Republican Party.

I meant to bring this up in that thread, but it's probably been said already - honestly, this is probably the closest any of these uptight holier-than-thous will ever get to a woman's private parts.

200 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:16:43am

re: #199 thedopefishlives

And then I immediately have to take that back, because based on the number of sex scandals that seem to pervade the Republican Party, they are more than familiar with female genitalia.

201 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:17:20am

re: #200 thedopefishlives

And then I immediately have to take that back, because based on the number of sex scandals that seem to pervade the Republican Party, they are more than familiar with female genitalia.

That remains to be sorted out.

//

202 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:17:38am

re: #201 ☭ Gus - Mercy Buckets ☭

That remains to be sorted out.

//

The point is well taken.

203 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:17:39am

re: #181 thedopefishlives

While that is true, that still doesn't deter me from my stated goal of refusing to be properly terrified by these bastards.

The Feds are doing a great job domestically and Obama's made great use of drones internationally. Al Qaeda is pretty much gone as an international entity. The only internationally active terrorists these days are Iran and Hezbollah and they suck at it. The worst injury in the failed attacks this week was the dickhead who blew off his own legs.

204 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:18:43am

Heh.

205 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:19:25am

re: #204 Osama Bin Drinking

Heh.

Aha, you figured it out at last. Congratulations and welcome to the Secret Identity Club.

206 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:20:22am

re: #139 Targetpractice

So we got oil prices already rising due to speculation and the GOP wants to fuel it by holding the SPR hostage unless their lobbyists get their pipeline approved, giving Iran an even greater edge than it previously had to fuck with our economy by blockading oil shipments?

Yeah, I'd say it's about time to start questioning their patriotism.

They know that people - especially those with tight budgets already - will be heavily affected by spikes in gas prices, and the GOP strategy will be to blame Obama for "not doing more to increase domestic (i.e. Canadian) supplies of oil".

207 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:20:33am

re: #205 thedopefishlives

Aha, you figured it out at last. Congratulations and welcome to the Secret Identity Club.

Good to be here, considering my actual name is CCA.
/

208 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:21:18am
209 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:21:30am

I wonder if this is a good analogy for the contraceptives brouhaha: if some religious group thinks that transfusion of blood is sinful and prohibited, should they pay for it as a part of health insurance for their employees?

210 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:21:38am

re: #203 Killgore Trout

The Feds are doing a great job domestically and Obama's made great use of drones internationally. Al Qaeda is pretty much gone as an international entity. The only internationally active terrorists these days are Iran and Hezbollah and they suck at it. The worst injury in the failed attacks this week was the dickhead who blew off his own legs.

Al Qaeda is getting a little help from their friends.

Iran helping al Qaeda plot attack on West, intelligence sources say

211 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:22:28am

re: #209 e_e

I wonder if this is a good analogy for the contraceptives brouhaha: if some religious group thinks that transfusion of blood is sinful and prohibited, should they pay for it as a part of health insurance for their employees?

That is the very case with Jehovah's Witnesses, yes.

And what if a lunch counter suddenly develops a religious reason not to serve blacks?

212 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:23:31am

re: #166 e_e

Both at desmogblog and here I offered a possible authentication route through DKIM signatures.

I looked a little at that mechanism. Seems that the routing server has to have that option activated and there is some question as to if it can be spoofed after the fact.

213 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:23:49am

re: #211 Ministry of Fairness and Balance

That is the very case with Jehovah's Witnesses, yes.

And what if a lunch counter suddenly develops a religious reason not to serve blacks?

Or to having female doctors?

214 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:24:20am

re: #209 e_e

I wonder if this is a good analogy for the contraceptives brouhaha: if some religious group thinks that transfusion of blood is sinful and prohibited, should they pay for it as a part of health insurance for their employees?

Needs moar butter.

Actually, that's a good analogy, and if the religious group in question had the Republican Party by the short hairs the way the fundie Christians do, it's one we'd be dealing with in real life.

215 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:25:50am

re: #212 RayFerd

I looked a little at that mechanism. Seems that the routing server has to have that option activated and there is some question as to if it can be spoofed after the fact.

Sure, the option must be activated, which is why I said "possible". As for spoofed after the fact, IIRC this only pertains to additional fake "from:" headers and such spoofing is only useful for sending spam. We, on the other hand, can check for any additional headers if we have the .eml.

216 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:26:12am

Florida executes man 32 years after St. Petersburg murder

Problem?
The guys DNA results were lost (or whatever)

Problem?
He had murdered before, in 1966 in his native Greenport, N.Y., where he raped and strangled a 77-year-old widow. He broke almost every rib in her body and left teeth marks in one of her breasts. He spent only eight years in prison before being paroled.
Rape? Murder? 8 years? We're good.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

217 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:27:03am

re: #214 wrenchwench

Needs moar butter.

But maybe not everything is like it appears? /

Actually, that's a good analogy, and if the religious group in question had the Republican Party by the short hairs the way the fundie Christians do, it's one we'd be dealing with in real life.

Yep.

218 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:27:22am

Palestinian pupils killed in West Bank school bus crash

At least eight Palestinian children and a teacher have been killed in a collision between a school bus and a lorry in the West Bank.

The bus was carrying children as young as four on their way to Ramallah, just north of Jerusalem.

The vehicle overturned on impact and burst into flames. More than 30 children were injured, and there are fears the death toll may rise.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has declared three days of mourning.

219 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:27:34am

re: #210 NJDhockeyfan

Al Qaeda is getting a little help from their friends.

Iran helping al Qaeda plot attack on West, intelligence sources say

That wouldn't surprise me but I think Zawahiri's leadership of Al Qaeda has been a contributing factor to their decline. They had a golden opportunity with the underwear bomber and could even be bothered to build him a functioning bomb. Very sloppy.

220 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:28:09am

re: #210 NJDhockeyfan

Al Qaeda is getting a little help from their friends.

Iran helping al Qaeda plot attack on West, intelligence sources say

Are these the same sources that whispered about Saddam-Al-Qaeda connections, by any chance?

221 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:28:38am

re: #203 Killgore Trout

The Feds are doing a great job domestically and Obama's made great use of drones internationally. Al Qaeda is pretty much gone as an international entity. The only internationally active terrorists these days are Iran and Hezbollah and they suck at it. The worst injury in the failed attacks this week was the dickhead who blew off his own legs.

Yea, who thought Mossad or their lackeys could be that incompetent.
//

(Or to drill down a level, how did they find/train an operative that was fanatical enough to blow off his own legs as a false flag op.)
...
(Next level down - look how Mossad set up a guy and then remote detonated the stuff to blow his legs off so that an actual Israeli did not get hurt...)
///
(Brain bleach! I don't need to go down that rabbit hole.)

222 Interesting Times  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:29:02am

re: #214 wrenchwench

On a lighter note, this made me think of some of your posts:

Tiny lizards found in Madagascar

"It is possible that the big island of Madagascar has produced the general group of dwarf chameleons and the very small island has produced the tiny species," he told BBC Nature.

tiny_chameleons_photo1

tiny_chameleons_photo2

223 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:29:34am

re: #221 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Wow, you're pretty good at speaking dumbass. Do they offer night classes or something?

224 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:29:34am

Man. I could use some Freedom Fries™ right about now.

225 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:30:14am

re: #215 e_e

Sure, the option must be activated, which is why I said "possible". As for spoofed after the fact, IIRC this only pertains to additional fake "from:" headers and such spoofing is only useful for sending spam. We, on the other hand, can check for any additional headers if we have the .eml.

Guess they can try that route of authentication if available. If not available then does that fall back on the "trust us" question?

226 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:30:17am

re: #224 ☭ Gus - Mercy Buckets ☭

Man. I could use some Freedom Fries™ right about now.

And Freedom Cola with them?

227 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:31:04am

re: #226 e_e

And Freedom Cola with them?

Or a nice cold glass of rotten milk.

//

228 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:31:05am

re: #225 RayFerd

Guess they can try that route of authentication if available. If not available then does that fall back on the "trust us" question?

I'll be skeptical. I'm not forcing anyone.

229 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:32:05am

re: #226 e_e

And Freedom Cola with them?

I was gonna say a Freedom Cocktail and the fact that you should see the tits on this chick serving it, but I thought it would be wrong.
/not

230 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:32:33am

re: #223 thedopefishlives

Wow, you're pretty good at speaking dumbass. Do they offer night classes or something?

It's easier to turn off logic/reality circuits in your brain than to activate one that apparently don't exist.

(Similar to the TOS "Mirror, Mirror" thing. Easier for the civilized person to disguise themselves temporarily as a barbarian than vice versa.)

231 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:32:42am

re: #220 e_e

Are these the same sources that whispered about Saddam-Al-Qaeda connections, by any chance?

Be careful of revisionist history. Although a working relationship never materialized there were contacts and proposals for collaborative projects between Al qaeda and Saddam. Saddam even offered Bin Laden asylum if the Taliban threw him out.

232 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:32:43am

re: #222 Interesting Times

On a lighter note, this made me think of some of your posts:

Tiny lizards found in Madagascar

tiny_chameleons_photo1

tiny_chameleons_photo2

Cold-blooded scaly reptiles can be so cuddly looking!

233 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:33:18am

re: #228 e_e

I'll be skeptical. I'm not forcing anyone.

Commie!

//

234 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:34:11am

re: #203 Killgore Trout

The Feds are doing a great job domestically and Obama's made great use of drones internationally. Al Qaeda is pretty much gone as an international entity. The only internationally active terrorists these days are Iran and Hezbollah and they suck at it. The worst injury in the failed attacks this week was the dickhead who blew off his own legs.

Their strategy for the latest attacks was to pay some free-lance flakes 150 grand to carry them out, with predictable results. The mullahcrats are swine but they appear to be entirely innocent of clandestine operational competence.

235 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:34:13am

re: #210 NJDhockeyfan

Al Qaeda is getting a little help from their friends.

Iran helping al Qaeda plot attack on West, intelligence sources say

Murky waters there. If true, adequate reason to strike in Iran ourselves. If not, just war BS war drums beating away.

236 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:34:16am

re: #231 Killgore Trout

Be careful of revisionist history. Although a working relationship never materialized there were contacts and proposals for collaborative projects between Al qaeda and Saddam.

So, yeah, they never worked together, and the way that Bush and Cheney sold the connection was reprehensible as hell.

237 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:35:14am

re: #231 Killgore Trout

Be careful of revisionist history. Although a working relationship never materialized there were contacts and proposals for collaborative projects between Al qaeda and Saddam. Saddam even offered Bin Laden asylum if the Taliban threw him out.

Also remember Saddam had names of every person in his land. They were buried with them. Remember the ID's found? If he says he didn't know Zakawi was there, I'll call bullshit.

238 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:36:15am

re: #234 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

Their strategy for the latest attacks was to pay some free-lance flakes 150 grand to carry them out, with predictable results. The mullahcrats are swine but they appear to be entirely innocent of clandestine competence.

Is it confirmed that they were freelancers? Last I saw a few days ago is Indian authorities were speculating that the attackers were trained commandos.

239 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:36:26am

re: #237 Osama Bin Drinking

My spelling really sucks.

240 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:37:02am

I love getting paid a days wage for two hours work.
What's up wasetlanders???

241 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:37:44am

re: #238 Killgore Trout

Is it confirmed that they were freelancers? Last I saw a few days ago is Indian authorities were speculating that the attackers were trained commandos.

Iran prolly won't try to hide who they are. Dinnerjacket wants the end to come. I hope he dies.

242 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:38:04am
243 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:38:17am

re: #235 Daniel Ballard

Murky waters there. If true, adequate reason to strike in Iran ourselves. If not, just war BS war drums beating away.

It's the NYPost....

244 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:38:23am

re: #240 Varek Raith

I love getting paid a days wage for two hours work.
What's up wasetlanders???

Lead up to another internet dude invasion.

245 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:38:45am

re: #240 Varek Raith

I love getting paid a days wage for two hours work.
What's up wasetlanders???

Enjoying the new domestic internet connection here. (Via Pittsburgh and not San Paolo.)

Off to lunch and then taking the new network engineer to a nearby facility to do a tour of the network set-up there.

Bye bye.

246 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:38:51am

re: #240 Varek Raith

I love getting paid a days wage for two hours work.
What's up wasetlanders???

I love working part time and doing a days wage!! WOOT!!
//I wish I were kidding.

247 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:38:55am

re: #244 ☭ Lev Davidovich Bronshtein ☭

Lead up to another internet dude invasion.

Heh, commie!

248 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:39:18am

re: #247 Varek Raith

Heh, commie!

The "h" is silent.

//

249 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:39:26am

re: #213 Obdicut

Or to having female doctors?

Or to have male doctors treat female patients?

250 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:39:33am

It's like I don't even know you people anymore.:(

251 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:40:35am

re: #228 e_e

I'll be skeptical. I'm not forcing anyone.

Always be skeptical. I'm so jaded that I would still be skeptical if they said they were authenticated or unauthenticated. Just can't win with me I guess.

252 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:40:38am

re: #250 Osama Bin Drinking

I like it even though I stopped using it myself.

253 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:40:43am

Here's a good question:

Because really, a bunch of men deciding what a woman's health care should look like makes total sense.

254 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:40:48am

re: #249 Ministry of Fairness and Balance

Or to have male doctors treat female patients?

It is is a sad day when an OB/GYN can't make love to his patients.
(W)
Heh

255 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:41:22am

re: #230 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

It's easier to turn off logic/reality circuits in your brain than to activate one that apparently don't exist.

(Similar to the TOS "Mirror, Mirror" thing. Easier for the civilized person to disguise themselves temporarily as a barbarian than vice versa.)

Yeah, believe me, I understand. I get to listen to wingnut-speak on a regular basis, so I'm a fairly proficient translator myself.

256 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:42:12am

re: #252 Obdicut

I like it even though I stopped using it myself.

I'm gonna stop. No one gets my humor without me being me.

257 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:43:03am

re: #252 Obdicut

I like it even though I stopped using it myself.

I'll use it again when it's no longer cool to do so.
:P

258 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:44:09am

re: #238 Killgore Trout

Is it confirmed that they were freelancers? Last I saw a few days ago is Indian authorities were speculating that the attackers were trained commandos.

Oops, that was the thwarted January attempt in Azerbaijan. The MO in the other cases looks very similar, with sticky bombs made locally but to the same design.

259 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:45:19am

Check. Jesus saves but Phil Espisito scores on the rebound.

260 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:45:25am

re: #231 Killgore Trout

Be careful of revisionist history. Although a working relationship never materialized there were contacts and proposals for collaborative projects between Al qaeda and Saddam. Saddam even offered Bin Laden asylum if the Taliban threw him out.

[Link: intelligence.senate.gov...]

See page 105.

As for alleged asylum:

[Link: www.reasons-for-war-with-iraq.info...]

(and yes, I checked this source against some others)

ABC News has learned that in December [1998], an Iraqi intelligence chief, named Farouk Hijazi, now Iraq's ambassador to Turkey, made a secret trip to Afghanistan to meet with bin Laden. Three intelligence agencies tell ABC News they cannot be certain what was discussed, but almost certainly, they say, bin Laden has been told he would be welcome in Baghdad.

Got more?

261 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:45:41am
262 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:46:27am

re: #261 ☭ Lev Davidovich Bronshtein ☭

Image: AlyVyS2CMAE9c1X.png

263 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:47:07am

Dems should hold a hearing on Religious Freedom in America and have only atheists.
/

264 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:47:10am

re: #256 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm gonna stop. No one gets my humor without me being me.

Try 'Canadian Club Akbar'.

265 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:47:40am

OK. Hot dog guy next door makes his own jalapeno relish. Awesome. BBIAB.

266 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:48:02am

re: #262 ☭ Lev Davidovich Bronshtein ☭

Parasite image. I.e. not working.

267 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:48:05am

re: #264 wrenchwench

Try 'Canadian Club Akbar'.

Try "shutty!!!"
///

268 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:48:14am

re: #263 Varek Raith

Dems should hold a hearing on Religious Freedom in America and have only atheists.
/

GOP fail.

269 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:48:39am

re: #266 e_e

Parasite image. I.e. not working.

Try going through #261.

270 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:49:08am

[Link: twitter.com...]

271 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:49:30am

re: #261 ☭ Lev Davidovich Bronshtein ☭

House GOP holding hearing on birth control coverage with ZERO women on panel!

They're too emotional about the issue. Hormones, you know.

272 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:50:29am

I swear if another cop thinks I'm homeless because I'm sitting on a very nice water front, I might say a swear word.:)
(not likely)

273 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:50:31am

re: #269 ☭ Lev Davidovich Bronshtein ☭

Try going through #261.

It just got Paged.

274 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:51:18am

re: #273 wrenchwench

It just got Paged.

Saw that. Let Marjorie know about using the quoted text button.

275 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:51:38am

re: #271 wrenchwench

They're too emotional about the issue. Hormones, you know.

Maybe they could get the "just right amount of rape" lady from Fox news.
//

276 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:52:11am

re: #241 Cannadian Club Akbar

Iran prolly won't try to hide who they are. Dinnerjacket wants the end to come. I hope he dies.

It's hard to tell what the hell the Iranians are thinking. They seem hell bent on going through with this regardless of the consequences. There's certainly no diplomatic solution and they seem willing to endure any sanctions no matter how painful. I think it all boils down to allowing them the bomb or destroying their program with force. I have no idea what they best decision is.

277 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:53:23am

re: #259 Cannadian Club Akbar

Check. Jesus saves but Phil Espisito scores on the rebound.

Jesus saves. Everyone else rolls d20 for damage.

278 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:54:50am

re: #274 ☭ Lev Davidovich Bronshtein ☭

Saw that. Let Marjorie know about using the quoted text button.

Is that, 'I will let Marjorie know...' or 'You should let Marjorie know..' ?

279 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:55:01am

Republicans have become very adept at shooting themselves in the foot.

280 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:55:31am

re: #278 wrenchwench

Is that, 'I will let Marjorie know...' or 'You should let Marjorie know..' ?

Anyone. ;) No telling this morning. Mah brain hurtz.

281 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:56:08am

re: #279 ☭ Lev Davidovich Bronshtein ☭

Republicans have become very adept at shooting themselves in the foot.

There's shooting yourself in the foot...
Then there's intentionally stepping on a land mine.
;)

282 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:56:38am

I thought Issa was too busy with the 'Fast and Furious' thing to deal with silly women's issues. Oh, wait. It's a Religious Liberty Issue, there's always time for that.

283 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:56:39am

re: #281 Varek Raith

There's shooting yourself in the foot...
Then there's intentionally stepping on a land mine.
;)

And when stepping doesn't work, try jumping up and down on it a little.

284 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:59:53am

re: #278 wrenchwench

Is that, 'I will let Marjorie know...' or 'You should let Marjorie know..' ?

I don't want to say it on the page itself. You know. Just some first comment "complaining" about not using the quote feature. :)

285 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:00:29am

re: #282 wrenchwench

I thought Issa was too busy with the 'Fast and Furious' thing to deal with silly women's issues. Oh, wait. It's a Religious Liberty Issue, there's always time for that.

I think they got as far as they could without implicating Republicans.

286 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:01:09am

re: #283 Son You got a panty on your head.

And when stepping doesn't work, try jumping up and down on it a little.

Take my +1 hammer.

287 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:02:27am

re: #283 Son You got a panty on your head.

And when stepping doesn't work, try jumping up and down on it a little.

The GOP are taking lessons from the master of fail:

288 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:02:53am

I didn't read about the prison fire in Honduras because I thought it would give me nightmares. Instead, it kept me awake last night. So I just read about it, to place it in the realm of reality instead of imagination. *shudder*

Didn't help that there was a suicide at the local county lockup on the same night. Or, as the stupid news outlet put it, "An apparent attempted suicide". And the county manager said he considered it a 'personnel matter'. I still might call him.

289 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:04:36am
290 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:06:22am

Heh:

293 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:10:58am

re: #292 Gus

Robert Stacy McCain on Date Rape: ‘You Buy the Ticket, You Take the Ride’

I wonder how many... uh... let's stop right here.

294 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:11:12am

re: #292 Gus

Robert Stacy McCain on Date Rape: ‘You Buy the Ticket, You Take the Ride’

Wow. That's right alongside Liz Trotta's bullshit in the offensive department.

So women are just supposed to expect rape if we go on a date now? WTF.

295 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:13:30am
296 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:14:47am

Filed under WTF.

Yep. Same people always whining about the imaginary "race card" no less.

Go figure.

297 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:15:03am

re: #292 Gus

Robert Stacy McCain on Date Rape: ‘You Buy the Ticket, You Take the Ride’

It's been over a year since that article, and I still don't understand how RS McCain could be so pigheaded. But then, he's a white supremacist, racist, sexist douchebag, so he probably doesn't go on very many dates or understand how normal people interact sexually.

298 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:15:38am

re: #294 Lidane

Wow. That's right alongside Liz Trotta's bullshit in the offensive department.

So women are just supposed to expect rape if we go on a date now? WTF.

What are women supposed to expect unless they go out in public fully veiled, accompanied by thier father, husband or a male guardian?

299 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:15:45am

re: #297 thedopefishlives

He seems to like negative attention.

300 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:16:05am

re: #299 Obdicut

He seems to like negative attention.

Well, him and Ann Coulter have something in common then, don't they.

301 simoom  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:18:16am

re: #261 Gus

DSCC
@dscc

House GOP holding hearing on birth control coverage with ZERO women on panel!

More on the Issa sausage-fest:

ABCNews: Rep. Darrell Issa Bars Minority Witness, a Woman, on Contraception

“Where are the women?” the minority Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., asked early in the hearing.

She criticized the Republican committee chairman, Rep. Darrel Issa, for wanting to “roll back the fundamental rights of women to a time when the government thought what happens in the bedroom is their business.”
“We will not be forced back to that primitive era,” she said.

...

Fluke would have talked about a classmate who lost an ovary because of a syndrome that causes ovarian cysts. Georgetown, which is affiliated with the Catholic Church, does not insure birth control, which is also used to treat the syndrome.

...

Among the witnesses invited by Issa to attend the hearing was a representative of the Catholic bishops, who oppose the Obama administration “accommodation” on birth-control coverage. Joining them are many other men of other religions. Not invited, complained Democrats, were representatives from the Catholic Health Association, which is run by a woman and actually runs the Catholic hospitals, nor Catholic Charities, both of which said Friday they supported the president’s plan.

Ranking committee member Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., wanted to invite third-year Georgetown Law Center student Sandra Fluke to testify, telling Issa it was important to have at least one woman at the witness table because the issue involved health repercussions for women.

...

Cummings, the ranking Democrat, and Maloney asked Issa to reconsider and let Fluke testify, noting she was in the audience, when the hearing got underway Thursday.

Rep. Cummings accused Issa of creating “conspiracy hearing” and stacking the witness list by refusing to allow women “commits a massive injustice by trying to pretend that the views of millions of women across the country are meaningless.”

302 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:19:08am

Ya know I would suggest that Stacy McCain, Trotta, etc who are suggesting you get what you expect are more men hating than the feminists they bitch about. I mean really, it's like they think rape is just part of being a guy. It's not. Rape is for cowardly dickbags.

303 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:19:19am

re: #301 simoom

Rep. Cummings accused Issa of creating “conspiracy hearing” and stacking the witness list by refusing to allow women “commits a massive injustice by trying to pretend that the views of millions of women across the country are meaningless.”

That's just the point. To the GOP, women's opinions are meaningless.

304 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:19:28am

Ha! I'm not the only one making comparisons between Rick Santorum and Torquemada. Author Garry Wills agrees:

Rick Santorum is a nice smiley fanatic. He does not believe in evolution or global warming or women in the workplace. He equates gay sex with bestiality (Rick “Man on Dog” Santorum). He equates contraception with the guillotine. Only a brain-dead party could think him a worthy presidential candidate. Yet he is praised by television pundits, night and day, for being “sincere” and “standing by what he believes.” He is the principled alternative to the evil Moderation of Mitt Romney and the evil Evil of Newt Gingrich. He is presented as a model Catholic. Torquemada was, in that sense, a model Catholic. Messrs. Boehner and McConnell call him a martyr to religious freedom. A young priest I saw on television, modeling himself on his hero Santorum, said, “I would rather die than give up my church’s principles.” What we are seeing is not a defense of undying principle but a stampede toward a temporarily exploitable lunacy.

305 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:21:25am

re: #260 e_e

I would like some acknowledgment of this comment from KT, in any form, if possible. I would not have continued otherwise, but accusations of "revisionist history" were thrown around.

306 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:21:48am

re: #301 simoom

More on the Issa sausage-fest:

ABCNews: Rep. Darrell Issa Bars Minority Witness, a Woman, on Contraception

Sausage fest! Winning. Yeah, it's almost like the Catholic Church where you have a bunch of celibate men -- of indeterminate sexual orientation -- deciding the destiny of womens' bodies.

307 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:22:54am

re: #304 Lidane

Ha! I'm not the only one making comparisons between Rick Santorum and Torquemada Author Garry Wills agrees:

Santorum cares about the church's principles?
Is that when he sounds more like Ayn Rand than Jesus Christ on the plight of the poor?
Or when he makes a special exemption for himself when he got his wife an abortion.
You'd think that the Santorums' experience would make Rick more sensitive to the reality of abortion but no he's being a bigger than ever dick.

308 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:23:08am

PSA
Little Caesar's makes decent wings.

309 simoom  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:23:30am

re: #301 simoom

More on the Issa sausage-fest:

[Link: livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

Democratic women on the committee have largely stayed out of the hearing room to protest the lack of women and countering points of view on the panel.

Image: bishops-issa-hearing-2-cropped-proto-custom_24.jpg

310 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:23:43am

Mitt Romney is really trying hard to lose in Michigan:

311 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:24:29am
312 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:24:45am

re: #308 Varek Raith

PSA
Little Caesar's makes decent wings.

I may have to suggest that to the Mrs. Fish. She's always on the lookout for a pizza place that makes wings worth eating.

313 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:24:55am

re: #311 Gus

I think I'm about to hurl.

That's that milk you drank earlier.

314 Simply Sarah  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:25:53am

re: #304 Lidane

Ha! I'm not the only one making comparisons between Rick Santorum and Torquemada Author Garry Wills agrees:

Yes, he's "sincere". Sincere about being ultra homophobic, misogynist (And, I'm sure, a few other -phobic and -ists), Christian-only. Yeah, he stands by what he believes, but what he believes treats the majority of the population as, at best, second class citizens and in many ways more towards being subhuman.

315 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:26:01am

"I guess I'm not one of the cool people here on LGF"

A little butthurt goes a long way it seems.

All the way to the stalker blog.

316 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:26:27am

Alabama casino boss apologizes for exposure bonus

MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — A casino developer who has pleaded guilty to offering bribes to legislators testified Wednesday he was joking when he proposed having his female lobbyist expose her breasts to a state senator for his vote for a pro-gambling bill.

On Tuesday and Wednesday, jurors in Alabama's gambling corruption trial heard a wiretapped phone call between Country Crossing developer Ronnie Gilley and one of his male lobbyists. During the call, Gilley proposed a $50,000 bonus for casino lobbyist Jennifer Pouncy if she would expose her breasts to then-Sen. Jim Preuitt and let him touch her to secure his vote.

Gilley said he never asked her to do that. He apologized for the remark.

"It was a very distasteful joke," he said.

317 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:41:11am

Good luck on your return, fucknut. Yeah, you know who you are.

318 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:52:43am

re: #317 Jimmah

Did w return, or something? ;)

319 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:53:26am

I need to change my name to Klaatu Barata Nikto.


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