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Santorum: Satan Is Systematically Destroying America

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For Rick Santorum, this isn’t just a contest to win the office of the presidency — it’s an existential fight to the death with SATAN!

Santorum: Satan Is Systematically Destroying America.

This is not a political war at all. This is not a cultural war. This is a spiritual war. And the Father of Lies has his sights on what you would think the Father of Lies would have his sights on: a good, decent, powerful, influential country - the United States of America. If you were Satan, who would you attack in this day and age? There is no one else to go after other than the United States and that has been the case now for almost two hundred years, once America’s preeminence was sown by our great Founding Fathers.

He didn’t have much success in the early days. Our foundation was very strong, in fact, is very strong. But over time, that great, acidic quality of time corrodes even the strongest foundations. And Satan has done so by attacking the great institutions of America, using those great vices of pride, vanity, and sensuality as the root to attack all of the strong plants that has so deeply rooted in the American tradition.

He was successful. He attacks all of us and he attacks all of our institutions. The place where he was, in my mind, the most successful and first successful was in academia. He understood pride of smart people. He attacked them at their weakest, that they were, in fact, smarter than everybody else and could come up with something new and different. Pursue new truths, deny the existence of truth, play with it because they’re smart. And so academia, a long time ago, fell.

And you say “what could be the impact of academia falling?” Well, I would have the argument that the other structures that I’m going to talk about here had root of their destruction because of academia. Because what academia does is educate the elites in our society, educates the leaders in our society, particularly at the college level. And they were the first to fall.

And so what we saw this domino effect, once the colleges fell and those who were being education in our institutions, the next was the church. Now you’d say, ‘wait, the Catholic Church’? No. We all know that this country was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic but the Judeo-Christian ethic was a Protestant Judeo-Christian ethic, sure the Catholics had some influence, but this was a Protestant country and the Protestant ethic, mainstream, mainline Protestantism, and of course we look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it. So they attacked mainline Protestantism, they attacked the Church, and what better way to go after smart people who also believe they’re pious to use both vanity and pride to also go after the Church.

After that, you start destroying the Church and you start destroying academia, the culture is where their next success was and I need not even go into the state of the popular culture today. Whether its sensuality of vanity of the famous in America, they are peacocks on display and they have taken their poor behavior and made it fashionable. The corruption of culture, the corruption of manners, the corruption of decency is now on display whether it’s the NBA or whether it’s a rock concert or whether it’s on a movie set.

The fourth, and this was harder, now I know you’re going to challenge me on this one, but politics and government was the next to fall. You say, ‘you would think they would be the first to fall, as fallible as we are in politics,’ but people in political life get elected by ordinary folks from lots of places all over the country where the foundations of this country are still strong. So while we may certainly have had examples, the body politic held up fairly well up until the last couple of decades, but it is falling too.

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367 comments

1 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:24:56pm

Dear Rick,
Satan does not exist.
Yes, you heard me.
Satan. Is. A. Fairytale. Stop.

2 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:28:04pm

It's always doom and gloom with these guys. And really Rick? Satan?

3 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:28:29pm

Feels like the right time to listen to some Slayer.

4 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:28:33pm

"There is no one else to go after other than the United States and that has been the case now for almost two hundred years, once America’s preeminence was sown by our great Founding Fathers."

WHAT?!1! America *is* the land of Satan!1! It is the Holy Mother Russia that is being under attack from the unholy America, full of yucky marrying gays and abortions and moral decay and porn1!!! Only Holy Russia keeps the True Christian Orthodox Faith!!!1!

/Santorum's Russian clone.

5 erik_t  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:28:37pm

Dude's tripping balls. Total nutter.

6 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:28:53pm

Santorum's health plan: Cast out Satan!
Santorum's education plan: Cast out Satan!
Santorum's disaster plan: Cast out Satan!
Santorum's economic plan: Give private businesses huge tax breaks to cast out Satan!

7 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:29:16pm

Wait a minute. This must explain the "Megadeath" endorsement!

8 jaunte  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:29:21pm
"...people in political life get elected by ordinary folks from lots of places all over the country where the foundations of this country are still strong."

The Real, Non-Satanic America.

9 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:30:04pm

re: #3 Amory Blaine

Feels like the right time to listen to some Slayer.

Challenge accepted.

10 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:30:22pm

What I love is how he acts like things were just great in the past. Yeah, Rick, maybe you've forgotten what yours and mine Catholic forefathers went through. You know actually being treated like second class citizens because of our faith. Or worse the Black Americans who were enslaved in the name of Christianity.

11 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:31:43pm

Diablo!

12 jaunte  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:32:16pm

I can't remember which article of the Constitution covers Satan fightin'.

13 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:33:56pm

re: #12 jaunte

I can't remember which article of the Constitution covers Satan fightin'.

Article 10, right after Jesus beats Charles Darwin over the head with a bible proclaiming I AM THE LORD, MOTHERFUCKA.

14 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:34:09pm
15 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:34:09pm

re: #11 Gus

Diablo!

Now I can picture Santorum's Hispanic outreach plan.

"I am the gringo who will ...um, l fighto the Diablo."

16 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:34:29pm

re: #7 Gus

Wait a minute. This must explain the "Megadeath" endorsement!

I had to steal that one for a retweet.

17 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:35:19pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

I had to steal that one for a retweet.

That's cool. ;)

18 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:36:53pm

re: #12 jaunte

I can't remember which article of the Constitution covers Satan fightin'.

You forget that the Constitution itself is Satanic since it fails to mention God and that all worldly power, sparkliness, and sweetness of Mom's apple pie comes from him.

19 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:39:24pm

re: #6 Kragar

Santorum's health plan: Cast out Satan!
Santorum's education plan: Cast out Satan!
Santorum's disaster plan: Cast out Satan!
Santorum's economic plan: Give private businesses huge tax breaks to cast out Satan!

So, Rick has the endorsement of the Flyfishing lobby, does he?

20 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:39:39pm

re: #18 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

You forget that the Constitution itself is Satanic since it fails to mention God and that all worldly power, sparkliness, and sweetness of Mom's apple pie comes from him.

God gives our rights, so why does the Constitution even matter?
/Santorum logic engaged

21 Sionainn  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:40:39pm

From my friend, Gerry:

So this inspired me to rewrite the lyrics of Radiohead's Creep in honor of America's pope wannabe.

I give my kids fetuses
to play with all day
Can't marry who you want to
Only who I say
Because I'm so special
So sanctimoniously special
But I'm Rick Santorum
I'm a weirdo
Why the hell elect me president?
I should be pope.

I don't care who I hurt
I want to have control
I want to control your body
I want to control your soul
I want you to notice
That I'm always around
Especially in your bedroom
Because I'm so special

But I'm a creep
I'm Rick Santorum
What the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here

She's using birth control again
run her out of town
She's run, run, run run
Run

Whatever makes you happy
Whatever you want
Is something I'm against.
Pope wannabes are special
But I'm Rick Santorum
I'm a weirdo
Why the hell elect me president?
I should be pope
I should be pope.

22 nines09  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:40:49pm

Hmmmm. No mention of false prophets?

23 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:41:32pm

"Sandwich... In the woods... Golf course.. Betty Boops..." (YT comment.)

This guy above ^^^^^ destroying Murika.

24 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:41:33pm

re: #20 Kragar

God gives our rights, so why does the Constitution even matter?
/Santorum logic engaged

Because it defined the control structure for the chosen to rule over the others. And then it was corrupted by amendments to allows for women and underclasses to vote along with taking selection of senators from the backroom.

25 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:41:45pm

I love this line: "If you were Satan, who would you attack?"

26 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:41:56pm

re: #15 Kragar

Now I can picture Santorum's Hispanic outreach plan.

"I am the gringo who will ...um, l fighto the Diablo."

Este sábado! Ricardo Santorum en un combate de boxeo contra El Diablo! Sólamente en Sábado Gigante!

27 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:42:15pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

I love this line: "If you were Satan, who would you attack?"

Belgium.

28 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:42:48pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

I love this line: "If you were Satan, who would you attack?"

Luxembourg. Obviously.

29 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:44:38pm

Constitution Center continues it's Satanic attack on America...

[Link: itineraries.msnbc.msn.com...]

Toxic rock-and-roll from New Jersey erodes as the soul of America.
///

30 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:45:31pm

re: #29 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Constitution Center continues it's Satanic attack on America...

[Link: itineraries.msnbc.msn.com...]

Toxic rock-and-roll from New Jersey erodes as the soul of America.
///

So Satan is from New Jersey. That explains a lot.

31 jaunte  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:45:58pm
32 erik_t  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:46:21pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

I love this line: "If you were Satan, who would you attack?"

Fetuses. Duh.

33 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:47:44pm

re: #31 jaunte

Southern Baptist leader: If Obama mandate isn’t changed, Christians will go to jail

He's actually comparing this to what Dr. King and the Civil Rights protesters endured. Really Land? Lay off the pot, please. I swear the Christian Right has this collective fantasy of being tortured by ebil left wing secularists.
"Ha-ha we want to take away your religion puny Christian conservative."
I mean really it's pathetic.

34 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:48:26pm

Want to make God laugh?

Vote against Santorum.

35 dragonath  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:49:36pm

Oh boy, the university that Satorum delivered this at sounds like a real party. Anyway, I found this bit on Wikipedia to be the most interesting:

Ave Maria School of Law was founded in 1999, and for the first nine years of its existence was located in Ann Arbor, Michigan. The law school's beginnings lie in discussions between future Founding Dean Bernard Dobranski and Monaghan. The school currently has thirty-five professors including Robert Bork (former United States Supreme Court nominee rejected by the US Senate),[5] several visiting professors, and eight esteemed legal writing professors.[6] Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia assisted Ave Maria School of Law leadership in developing the school's curriculum, and in 1999 Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas delivered the school's first annual Ave Maria Lecture.[7]

36 shutdown  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:49:38pm

I've gone over all the pros and cons, and I have come down in favour of Satan over Santorum. Basically it boils down to Satan being much more fun.

37 Sionainn  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:50:19pm

re: #31 jaunte

Southern Baptist leader: If Obama mandate isn’t changed, Christians will go to jail

Go for it, dude. I won't be reading your letters from jail, however.

38 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:50:28pm

'Great acidic quality of time'.

I love that. How was it determined that time is acidic? How can we make time more basic? (I suggest adding a lot of baking soda. Baking soda fixes everything.)

39 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:51:02pm

Rick Santorum missed his calling as a writer for either The Onion or South Park.

40 Digital Display  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:51:09pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

I love this line: "If you were Satan, who would you attack?"

If I were Satan I'd nuke the Crossroads.. All these new kids keep going there learning how to play guitar.
It really has taken the fun out of cutting heads in Hell.
And Charlie Daniels.. I still have the Golden Fiddle here.. Who the f*ck did you think you were dealing with pal? I'm Satan damn it!
/

41 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:51:49pm

"He was successful. He attacks all of us and he attacks all of our institutions. The place where he was, in my mind, the most successful and first successful was in academia. He understood pride of smart people. He attacked them at their weakest, that they were, in fact, smarter than everybody else and could come up with something new and different. Pursue new truths, deny the existence of truth, play with it because they’re smart. And so academia, a long time ago, fell."

Boy, the Jesuits must love this guy.

Also, this gives some insight into why Santorum really doesn't let his intelligence show very much.

42 Archangelus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:51:58pm

Having to choose between Satan and Santorum, i'll go with Satan, thankyouverymuch - Better the tormenting evil figment of imagination than the tormenting evil moronic clown....

43 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:52:18pm

The way Republicans are trying to take away a woman's right to control her own body is driving me berserk, considering all my close friends are ladies.

44 Sionainn  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:52:52pm

re: #38 SanFranciscoZionist

'Great acidic quality of time'.

I love that. How was it determined that time is acidic? How can we make time more basic? (I suggest adding a lot of baking soda. Baking soda fixes everything.)

...and duct tape.

45 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:53:02pm

re: #40 The Hoopster

Are you talking about the Restaurant in the Union?

Because I would object to that. I like their burgers. :(

46 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:53:03pm

re: #12 jaunte

I can't remember which article of the Constitution covers Satan fightin'.

Well, the First allows us the freedom to believe in Satan fightin', and the Second gives us the right to buy large guns for Satan fightin'...it's all in there, if you look at it just right.

47 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:53:06pm

re: #43 ProGunLiberal

The way Republicans are trying to take away a woman's right to control her own body is driving me berserk, considering all my close friends are ladies.

Fortunately the ladies can and do vote. But yeah I feel ya.

48 Locker  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:53:52pm

He'd have to be Satan's gay lover confidant (basically taking Saddam's place) in order know so much about his state of mind. Gotta love this kind of branding and dismissal though... just claim everything you disagree with is a plan of Satan not even worth considering as it's inherently evil.

Enabling sheeple will continue to drag us to the bottom like a boat anchor.

49 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:54:11pm

Waiting for the explanation on how this is taken out of context.

50 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:54:12pm

re: #35 dragonath

Oh boy, the university that Satorum delivered this at sounds like a real party. Anyway, I found this bit on Wikipedia to be the most interesting:

Ave Maria U is in the town of Ave Maria FL, founded by the Domino's guy and friends. It was famous for its attempt to outlaw sale of contraceptives within its jurisdiction. Contrary to rumor, "Ave Maria" is not Latin for "Branch Davidian".

51 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:54:29pm

When asked to comment, Satan responded. "Come on man, I'm the prince of darkness. If I wanted to destroy them, I'd cause massive hunger and destruction not secularization. Oh and I'd be destroying Azerbaijan. just because I like being ironic."

52 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:54:40pm

re: #26 Gus

Este sábado! Ricardo Santorum en un combate de boxeo contra El Diablo! Sólamente en Sábado Gigante!

How can he win, if the girls in bikinis keep coming out on stage?

53 Randall Gross  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:54:42pm
54 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:54:53pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

I love this line: "If you were Satan, who would you attack?"

WWSD?

55 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:55:19pm

Ok I've been a bit busy did he give this as a political speech at a political rally?

56 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:55:25pm

re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist

"...sinp
Boy, the Jesuits must love this guy.

Also, this gives some insight into why Santorum really doesn't let his intelligence show very much.

Quod non habet, non dat.

57 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:57:01pm

re: #55 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Ok I've been a bit busy did he give this as a political speech at a political rally?

Link has the background.

58 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:57:52pm

re: #51 HappyWarrior

When asked to comment, Satan responded. "Come on man, I'm the prince of darkness. If I wanted to destroy them, I'd cause massive hunger and destruction not secularization. Oh and I'd be destroying Azerbaijan. just because I like being ironic."

Didn't he need to ask for Sharon's permission first?

59 Digital Display  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:58:01pm

re: #45 ProGunLiberal

Are you talking about the Restaurant in the Union?

Because I would object to that. I like their burgers. :(

I was referencing the Movie Crossroads.. Isn't it a beautiful day today?
Hope you are well

60 shutdown  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:58:13pm

re: #56 Decatur Deb

Or, as they say: Everybody gives according to their means.

61 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:59:15pm

re: #60 Turnabout is Fair Play

Or, as they say: Everybody gives according to their means.

Sounds a little commie to me.

62 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:59:55pm

re: #56 Decatur Deb

Quod non habet, non dat.

I think he's got it...he just doesn't like to use it.

63 shutdown  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:01:26pm

re: #62 SanFranciscoZionist

I think he's got it...he just doesn't like to use it.

Thinking, for Ricky the "Truth" Santorum is a bit like the nuclear option. You know it is possible, but you also hope it never happens.

64 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:04:19pm
We all know that this country was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic but the Judeo-Christian ethic was a Protestant Judeo-Christian ethic, sure the Catholics had some influence, but this was a Protestant country and the Protestant ethic, mainstream, mainline Protestantism, and of course we look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it.

Did he consult any Judeos about this?

65 ReamWorks SKG  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:05:16pm

Belief in "Satan" is unique to Christianity. The personification of "Satan" is a Christian concept. You won't find Hindus or Buddhists talking about Satan in their literature. And while there is Satan in the Hebrew Bible, it's an "accuser" or challenger, and not a specific personification. The Wikipedia has this mostly right.

I know this is tangential to Sanatorium's point. But for those of us who are not Christian, it's hard to see "Satan" as a force external to Christianity when it's a part of it.

I wish he'd remove "Judeo-" from his "Judeo-Christian ethic" rhetoric.

66 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:05:58pm

re: #63 Turnabout is Fair Play

Thinking, for Ricky the "Truth" Santorum is a bit like the nuclear option. You know it is possible, but you also hope it never happens.

The mask slips once in a while. Mostly on foreign policy. He suddently starts talking like a clever, rational person.

67 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:06:49pm

We were pondering what the Iranians are thinking earlier this morning. I think this explains their motivation pretty well.
What would happen if Iran had the bomb?

analysts and diplomats note that Iran does have many reasons to develop at least a "breakout" capability – the ability to assemble a bomb quickly should it want to. Tehran has watched modern history unfold around it and no doubt has drawn its own conclusions. Acquiring nuclear weapons helped preserve regimes in North Korea and Pakistan, for instance. But in Iraq and Libya, two nonnuclear countries, Saddam Hussein and Muammar Qaddafi were deposed. The Iranian media, in fact, tut-tutted last year that Mr. Qaddafi's fatal error was relinquishing his secret nuclear weapons program in 2004.

"If I was an Iranian national security planner, I would want nuclear weapons," Bruce Riedel, a 30-year veteran of the CIA now at the Brookings Institution in Washington, said in January.

I don't agree with everything in the article but I think it's a reasonably fair and honest look at the situation. Well worth reading the whole thing.

68 shutdown  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:07:35pm

Whenever Santorum opens his mouth, it reminds me of the scene in Bruce Almighty when Jim Carrey causes Steve Carrell to speak in tongues.

69 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:08:18pm

Just asked the Wife to read this screed, without knowing who spoke it. She made it about halfway through before She just shook her head and stated that whoever spoke this was nuts. I then scrolled the screen up so Santorums face name was visible and said, Behold, Rick Santorum, the man who wants to be the next President of the United States. She again, just shook her head and as she was leaving the room, I stated, now you know why I am voting for Obama. She just looked at me and said, yeah.

70 Tigger2005  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:08:23pm

The thing is, on one level I can agree with a few of the things Rick says here. There's nothing wrong with suggesting that people could be more responsible, more humble, exercise more self-control, that Hollywood could offer us more positive role models. I am not a fan of moral relativism, there ARE things that are just wrong, and so on. But the way Rick presents it, it is not just a matter of conflicting opinions that are hashed out in the messy give and take of democracy, it is spiritual warfare that brooks no compromise. It is a dangerous and destructive attitude.

71 BongCrodny  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:10:28pm

Rick Santorum was born May 10, 1958.

The Number 1 song on May 10, 1958 was "Witch Doctor."

Just sayin'.

72 Tigger2005  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:11:24pm

I think Iran has wanted the bomb since 1979.


re: #67 Killgore Trout

We were pondering what the Iranians are thinking earlier this morning. I think this explains their motivation pretty well.
What would happen if Iran had the bomb?


I don't agree with everything in the article but I think it's a reasonably fair and honest look at the situation. Well worth reading the whole thing.

73 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:11:35pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

Do you agree with this particular part? I think earlier you argued that Iran is not a rational actor, unlike USSR, so comparison would be incorrect. (Sorry if I'm confusing something.)

Analysts say Iran is not an irrational, suicidal actor that can't be deterred. Nor do they believe it is determined to destroy Israel at all costs. A recent Israeli think tank simulation of "the day after" an Iranian nuclear test came to the same conclusion: that nuclear annihilation will not automatically result.

74 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:13:29pm

Here is the Ave Maria FL website/real estate link. For giggles check out the couple dozen photos of the 2012 BBQ FESTIVAL. I know Black-counting is in poor taste, but damn--a Florida BBQ Festival.

[Link: www.avemaria.com...]

75 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:14:51pm

re: #8 jaunte

The Real, Non-Satanic America.

I'm pretty sure I fall into the NOT Real American™ Satanic category. Y'know, being a stealth jihadi moon god worshiper and all that. //

76 Tigger2005  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:15:01pm

I think there's one other thing you have to consider. Does it matter if Iran is a rational actor or not? A nuclear arms race in one of the most unstable regions of the world can bring about a general nuclear conflagaration almost by default. The fact is, the more countries that have the bomb, the greater the likelihood that something will happen. It could start completely by accident. A radar signal misinterpreted.

re: #73 e_e

Do you agree with this particular part? I think earlier you argued that Iran is not a rational actor, unlike USSR, so comparison would be incorrect. (Sorry if I'm confusing something.)

77 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:15:03pm

Man I tell you what that Satan sure is a miracle worker. I mean look at how far we've gone since "America’s preeminence was sown by our great Founding Fathers." We got rid of slavery. Reduced hunger and poverty and living condition for the poor. Removed Jim Crow laws; women's suffrage; Civil Rights Act of 1964; etc. The spectacular climb in mortality for almost all Americans. Victory against the Axis powers during World War 2. Putting men on the moon not once but on numerous occasions. Huge advances in modern medicine. All because of people who were "very smart." Yeah, Satan sure is a miracle worker.

78 shutdown  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:15:28pm

re: #73 e_e

nuclear annihilation will not automatically result.

Well, I certainly feel better. How about you?
/

79 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:15:40pm

re: #75 CuriousLurker

I'm pretty sure I fall into the NOT Real American™ Satanic category. Y'know, being a stealth jihadi moon god worshiper and all that. //

Welcome to the seance, here's your black light and your copy of Black Sabbath's Paranoid on vinyl

80 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:17:03pm

re: #75 CuriousLurker

I'm pretty sure I fall into the NOT Real American™ Satanic category. Y'know, being a stealth jihadi http://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy&hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&=&q=moon god&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1 worshiper and all that. //

Why is my bit.ly link expanding like that? That's the 2nd time that's happened.

81 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:17:08pm

re: #78 Turnabout is Fair Play

Well, I certainly feel better. How about you?
/

Meh, my puny low intellect doesn't cope with this, so I got nothing.

82 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:17:36pm

re: #76 Tigger2005

To be honest, I'm more afraid of the backlash to Iran getting the Nuke, specifically, Saudi Arabia deciding they want the Nuke.

I'd prefer if no one in the Middle East had the Nuke.

83 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:18:13pm

re: #70 Tigger2005

The thing is, on one level I can agree with a few of the things Rick says here. There's nothing wrong with suggesting that people could be more responsible, more humble, exercise more self-control, that Hollywood could offer us more positive role models. I am not a fan of moral relativism, there ARE things that are just wrong, and so on. But the way Rick presents it, it is not just a matter of conflicting opinions that are hashed out in the messy give and take of democracy, it is spiritual warfare that brooks no compromise. It is a dangerous and destructive attitude.

What you think people were more humble and had better self-control back when the KKK was popular, Jim Crow laws, and during the time of slavery? This idea that this is some kind of new phenomenon is like the 50s stereotypes revolving around "Father Knows Best." If we could get a time machine and plant ourself in say, the Bowery during the days of Tammany Hall. Then compare how Americans were "back in the good old days" to today. People are downright civilized compared to the mythical days of old.

84 Four More Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:19:31pm

...wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.

85 Talking Point Detective  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:19:47pm

In case Sergey's around.

Just to let you know, I've been trying to get registered over at DeSmog so I can rip into the dopes who seem to think you're a denier. But I seem to be stuck in their registration process.

Dopes like that only make the situation worse than it is.

86 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:21:54pm

re: #85 Talking Point Detective

In case Sergey's around.

Just to let you know, I've been trying to get registered over at DeSmog so I can rip into the dopes who seem to think you're a denier. But I seem to be stuck in their registration process.

Dopes like that only make the situation worse than it is.

Well, I already explained the situation there. For some reason I couldn't log in for some time, though. Hopefully just server glitches. In any case, a "defense from outside" by itself is hardly effective. What is to stop anyone from concluding that you're a HI shill? ;)

87 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:22:17pm

People weren't as rude! Right. They just had the occasional lynching and public hangings is all.

*Amongst a billion other things.

88 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:23:02pm

re: #87 Gus

People weren't as rude! Right. They just had the occasional lynching and public hangings is all.

*Amongst a billion other things.

But Southern gentlemen... and belles... and gone with the wind...

89 Tigger2005  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:24:20pm

I'm not comparing today with any particular time in the past. Just saying that in general there's nothing wrong with promoting responsibility, humility, self-control, etc. Of course, Rick is anything BUT responsible, humble, or in possession of self-control.


re: #83 Gus

What you think people were more humble and had better self-control back when the KKK was popular, Jim Crow laws, and during the time of slavery? This idea that this is some kind of new phenomenon is like the 50s stereotypes revolving around "Father Knows Best." If we could get a time machine and plant ourself in say, the Bowery during the days of Tammany Hall. Then compare how Americans were "back in the good old days" to today. People are downright civilized compared to the mythical days of old.

90 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:24:50pm

Also, the legendary chivalry!

91 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:25:32pm

re: #89 Tigger2005

I'm not comparing today with any particular time in the past. Just saying that in general there's nothing wrong with promoting responsibility, humility, self-control, etc. Of course, Rick is anything BUT responsible, humble, or in possession of self-control.

Right. So I would simply add that that's been a goal with humankind since the dawn of our species. Before there were even gods or devils.

92 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:25:53pm

re: #31 jaunte

Southern Baptist leader: If Obama mandate isn’t changed, Christians will go to jail

Pfft. He's aiming small. Torquemada Jr. swears up and down that Obama is leading the way to Christians being beheaded in the town square.

93 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:26:02pm

re: #90 e_e

Also, the legendary chivalry!

Right. Go out for a walk an get your head chopped off by some nut on a horse. Good times.

94 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:26:35pm

re: #93 Gus

Right. Go out for a walk an get your head chopped off by some nut on a horse. Good times.

I'm not a nut.
:P

95 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:26:36pm

Ah the good ol' days.

96 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:26:47pm

re: #93 Gus

Right. Go out for a walk an get your head chopped off by some nut on a horse. Good times.

But it's a Christian nut! On a Christian horse! Today even the horses are Islamist :(

97 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:27:11pm

re: #73 e_e

Do you agree with this particular part? I think earlier you argued that Iran is not a rational actor, unlike USSR, so comparison would be incorrect. (Sorry if I'm confusing something.)

I think the article downplays that a bit. There is a religious angle here. The regime isn't suicidal now but they could easily become so. If things change and the religious zealots see and end times prophecy coming they could decide to unleash hell.
A couple other issues the article doesn't discuss: Islamic religious support for suicide bombings originated in Iran during the war with Iraq. There is religious support for killing yourself to kill others. Also Iran is now the world's leading supporter of international terrorism. This opens the possibility of giving their terror proxies (hamas, Hezbollah) materials they otherwise wouldn't have access to such as radioactive material for dirty bombs. They would feel more free to do things like this if they had a nuclear deterrent at home.
A nuclear Iran would also complicate Israeli decisions to take action in Gaza and Lebanon. With nuclear armed Iranian protectors Hamas and Hezbollah would certainly feel safer to escalate conflicts.
It would be a mess.

98 darthstar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:28:36pm
If you were Satan, who would you attack in this day and age?

Ooh...I love hypotheticals...let's see...If I was Satan, I'd start with drug cartels, the Taliban, and inner city gangs, because the paranoid white people who call themselves Christians in the US would be blind-sided by the move and suddenly they'd find themselves conflicted as they would be grateful for my work and want to thank me.

99 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:31:14pm

re: #6 Kragar

Santorum's health plan: Cast out Satan! (laying on of hands, payer, exorcism)
Santorum's education plan: Cast out Satan! (burn the evil secular books)
Santorum's disaster plan: Cast out Satan! Punishment from God, you must've done something to deserve it.
Santorum's economic plan: Give private businesses huge tax breaks to cast out Satan!

FTFY /only half

100 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:31:16pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

Thanks.
BTW, when you have a free minute, please take a look at this: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

101 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:32:46pm

This again.
Ok, Iran's nukes would be pretty low yield, large and unwieldy. They would likely be able to produce a handful a year.
Said use of nukes would have dire consequences for Iran.

102 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:33:03pm

re: #96 e_e

But it's a Christian nut! On a Christian horse! Today even the horses are Islamist :(

Fine Arab chargers coming to your emotional rescue?
;)

103 Robert O.  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:33:03pm

FFS!! Send him to Iran already. He would find great company, and would make a great Ayatollah.

104 simoom  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:33:11pm

Wow, there's this dark haired woman on Fox Business who just said something about "hypocritical" "bailout boy Obama" who's out "pimping" for his SuperPAC. Was kind of jaw dropping.

105 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:33:48pm

re: #104 simoom

Wow, there's this dark haired woman on Fox Business who just said something about hypocritical "bailout boy Obama" who's out "pimping" for his SuperPAC. Was kind of jaw dropping.

Librul plant!

//

106 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:34:15pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

It's always doom and gloom with these guys. And really Rick? Satan?

Yes, they can't seem to consider anything except in the context of an enemy of one sort or another, including each other. This is how countries like Iran (potentially rich and seriously threatened by nobody) maintain power.

107 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:34:37pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

Another factor that could derationalize Iran is domestic. The Iranian regime is oppressive and there's brewing domestic pressure. The mullah's grip on power is not going to last. As a last grasp to retain power at home could cause them to instigate international conflicts with usual demons of Israel, the US or Europe to save a failing regime at home.

109 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:35:25pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

I think the article downplays that a bit. There is a religious angle here. The regime isn't suicidal now but they could easily become so. ...snip.

President Santorum would be the National Command Authority head for 5,113 nuclear warheds.

110 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:36:09pm

lol christian TV [Link: unicornbooty.com...]

The granddaughter of Trinity Broadcasting Network’s Paul and Jan Crouch has accused the world’s largest Christian broadcaster of unlawfully distributing charitable assets worth more than $50 million to the company’s directors.
The charges are leveled in a federal lawsuit filed by Crouch granddaughter Brittany Koper last week against her former lawyers, who also do legal work for TBN.
“Observers have often wondered how the Crouches can afford multiple mansions on both coasts, a $50 million jet and chauffeurs,” said Tymothy MacLeod, Koper’s attorney. “And finally, with the CFO coming forward, we have answers to those questions.”

111 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:36:10pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

In that case, we should resist all attempts that they will throw at us to make us respond.

112 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:36:36pm

re: #109 Decatur Deb

President Santorum would be the National Command Authority head for 5,113 nuclear warheds.

That's reason alone to keep him the hell out of the White House.

It's the same reason that otherwise conservative and/or Republican people either voted Obama or stayed home in 2008. They didn't want to put Caribou Barbie a heartbeat away from the nuke codes.

113 Robert O.  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:37:39pm

I mean, I am reading this:

This is not a political war at all. This is not a cultural war. This is a spiritual war.

Rick, the word you are thinking of here is Jihad.....

114 darthstar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:37:50pm

re: #105 Gus

Librul plant!

//

THIS is a liberal plant.

115 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:38:32pm

re: #100 e_e

Thanks.
BTW, when you have a free minute, please take a look at this: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

That's Ok. I understand that lefties have a different version of Iraq war history. There's nothing I can do about that and debating it here would just be upsetting to the community. I'm pretty tired with swimming against the current.

116 Robert O.  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:38:33pm

re: #109 Decatur Deb

President Santorum would be the National Command Authority head for 5,113 nuclear warheds.

Scary isn't it....

117 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:39:25pm

re: #109 Decatur Deb

President Santorum would be the National Command Authority head for 5,113 nuclear warheds.

I'll be glad to hold onto them for you.

118 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:40:23pm

re: #117 Varek Raith

I'll be glad to hold onto them for you.

What does this button do?

//

119 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:40:27pm

re: #109 Decatur Deb

President Santorum would be the National Command Authority head for 5,113 nuclear warheds.

I don't see much chance of him getting anywhere near the nomination much less the presidency.

120 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:40:30pm

Rick? Has any one ever told you that you are a simple minded dickwad?

Then allow me.

121 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:41:43pm

re: #119 Killgore Trout

I don't see much chance of him getting anywhere near the nomination much less the presidency.

Intrade gives him one chance in four for the nomination. If he gets it, St Michael can take over from there.

122 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:41:46pm

re: #109 Decatur Deb

President Santorum would be the National Command Authority head for 5,113 nuclear warheds.

If you're looking for me you'll find me with my head in the oven.

123 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:42:10pm

re: #119 Killgore Trout

I see a path for him based on Polling.

124 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:43:54pm

re: #118 Gus

What does this button do?

//

This button flushes the toilet.
That one erases existence.
I think.

125 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:43:57pm

re: #115 Killgore Trout

That's Ok. I understand that lefties have a different version of Iraq war history. There's nothing I can do about that and debating it here would just be upsetting to the community. I'm pretty tired with swimming against the current.

Well, it's OK to say that - when you have written a sourced comment.

As it happens, you wrote your own interpretation of Saddam/Al-Qaeda connections without linking to any sources (and suggesting I engaged in historical revisionism).

I replied with a link to a non-partisan govt report which analyzed the alleged connections, and with a link to a news item which showed that the specific claim about asylum was a speculation (and the aforementioned report doesn't support it either).

You may disagree with my interpretations, but you have neither addressed them, nor provided sources for your own interpretations.

Just for the record.

126 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:44:02pm

re: #123 ProGunLiberal

I see a path for him based on Polling.

Maybe but he hasn't been the flavor of the month yet. Once he gets some time in the spotlight and voters get to know him his support will drop off pretty quickly.

127 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:44:58pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

Let's hope not. I want to see the Republicans wrecked in this election.

128 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:45:40pm

re: #119 Killgore Trout

I don't see much chance of him getting anywhere near the nomination much less the presidency.

Rasmussen:

Ohio GOP Primary: Santorum 42%, Romney 24%

Right now, he's the front-runner. Mitt is determined to lose in Michigan. Yeah, Torquemada Jr.'s not on some ballots in the primaries, but with the way things are going for Mitt, that might not even matter.

129 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:45:57pm

re: #115 Killgore Trout

That's Ok. I understand that lefties have a different version of Iraq war history. There's nothing I can do about that and debating it here would just be upsetting to the community. I'm pretty tired with swimming against the current.

It's not 'lefty' to say that Saddam and Bin Laden never worked together. It's reality. And the numerous times that the Bush admin tried to draw a connection between Saddam an Al Queda was reprehensible in the extreme.

Where did you buy your sense of completely fatuous patronization of others, by the way? It'd totally make my hipster costume.

130 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:46:27pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

Maybe but he hasn't been the flavor of the month yet. Once he gets some time in the spotlight and voters get to know him his support will drop off pretty quickly.

Then process of elimination makes Rep. Paul the Anybody But Romney. That's much better.

131 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:49:42pm

re: #125 e_e


Your sources said the same thing I said. There may be now audio recording of the meetings but Bin Laden was "almost certainly" (I beleive that was the term used in your link) offered asylum by Saddam. I seem to recall there are actual quotes from Saddam's public statements in news stories from the time . If it's important to you then you can look for them.

132 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:51:43pm

re: #129 Obdicut

It's not 'lefty' to say that Saddam and Bin Laden never worked together. It's reality.

That's what I said this morning.

Where did you buy your sense of completely fatuous patronization of others, by the way? It'd totally make my hipster costume.

I knew that people would find this discussion upsetting.

133 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:52:12pm

re: #131 Killgore Trout

Your sources said the same thing I said. There may be now audio recording of the meetings but Bin Laden was "almost certainly" (I beleive that was the term used in your link) offered asylum by Saddam. I seem to recall there are actual quotes from Saddam's public statements in news stories from the time . If it's important to you then you can look for them.

"Almost certainly" = speculation. There was also "they cannot be certain what was discussed".

The later intelligence committee report doesn't support these old speculations.

134 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:53:40pm

re: #133 e_e

KT is REALLY going of the deep-end now.

He is saying spew from Fux Noise that was discredited YEARS ago.

135 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:58:41pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

That's what I said this morning.

Sure. While someone warning against revisionist history when other people talked about it. I never said you were consistent.

I knew that people would find this discussion upsetting.

Killgore, this whole "i'm above it all" attitude does get very tiring. I'm not sure why you think this is a point in your favor. You say dumb shit, get called on it, and then say you're not going to talk about it anymore to spare other peoples' feelings. If you really wanted to not 'upset' people, you wouldn't say the dumb shit in the first place. If you really wanted a discussion, you'd actually follow through.

It's fine being a contrarion, but being a sulky contrarian is just sad.

136 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:58:43pm

Lol.
Rererererere-hashing the reasoning for the Iraq war.
Been there, done that.

137 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:00:56pm

re: #135 Obdicut

Sure. While someone warning against revisionist history when other people talked about it. I never said you were consistent.

Killgore, this whole "i'm above it all" attitude does get very tiring. I'm not sure why you think this is a point in your favor. You say dumb shit, get called on it, and then say you're not going to talk about it anymore to spare other peoples' feelings. If you really wanted to not 'upset' people, you wouldn't say the dumb shit in the first place. If you really wanted a discussion, you'd actually follow through.

It's fine being a contrarion, but being a sulky contrarian is just sad.

I think he's trying to justify his support of the Iraq war.
Facts be damned.

138 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:01:42pm

re: #136 Varek Raith

Lol.
Rererererere-hashing the reasoning for the Iraq war.
Been there, done that.

Who really won the Tet Offensive?

139 erik_t  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:01:57pm

Iraq and Al-Q now? Santorum isn't the only one who wants to turn back the clock, apparently. LOL.

140 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:03:18pm

Some lovely individual just linked to the Whitney Houston post from the forum at this site:

[Link: %6E%69%67%67ermania.net&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8...]

It's a Google cache link. NSFW. A very offensive site.

I closed registration for now.

141 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:03:47pm

re: #131 Killgore Trout

Your sources said the same thing I said. There may be now audio recording of the meetings but Bin Laden was "almost certainly" (I beleive that was the term used in your link) offered asylum by Saddam. I seem to recall there are actual quotes from Saddam's public statements in news stories from the time . If it's important to you then you can look for them.

There is no way on God's green earth Saddam would offer asylum to bin Laden, nor would bin Laden accept it if it was offered.

As the head of a secular state strongly influenced by Communism Saddam was one of the people bin Laden was trying to get rid of! Everything that bin Laden has done was to overthrow regimes such as Saddam's. As an Islamist he believed that the only way to make the Arab world great again was to destroy the secular states that ruled it and replace them with an Islamic empire.

You need only look at who the first powerful victim of the Islamists was to see how this would be the case.

142 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:07:00pm
143 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:07:19pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Some lovely individual just linked to the Whitney Houston post from the forum at this site:

[Link: %6E%69%67%67ermania.net&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8...]

It's a Google cache link. NSFW. A very offensive site.

I closed registration for now.

Leftist false-flag. There were no mis-spellings on that page.

144 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:07:20pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Disgusting doesn't even come close to describing that place and I didn't go further than the first page.

145 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:07:26pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

That's not just NSFW. It's Not Safe For Life.

What a bunch of retrograde bullshit.

146 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:07:50pm

re: #138 Decatur Deb

Who really won the Tet Offensive?

An American officer and a North Vietnamese officer met after the war.

"You know." said the American officer, "you never beat us on the battlefield."

"That is true," the North Vietnamese officer, "but it is also irrelevant."

147 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:08:01pm
148 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:08:25pm

re: #144 Bubblehead II

Disgusting doesn't even come close to describing that place and I didn't go further than the first page.

I didn't even click the link. I moused over it and read the site name and that was enough. I'm not looking at that, even if it is just a cache.

149 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:08:31pm

re: #142 Gus

Thank Allah!

150 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:08:41pm

re: #142 Gus

Speaking of racists:

My days as a political analyst at MSNBC have come to an end. -- Pat Buchanan

It's dripping:

They are saying that a respected publisher, St. Martin’s, colluded with me to produce a racist, homophobic, anti-Semitic book, and CNN, Fox News, C-SPAN, Fox Business News, and the 150 radio shows on which I appeared failed to detect its evil and helped to promote a moral atrocity.

If my book is racist and anti-Semitic, how did Sean Hannity, Erin Burnett, Judge Andrew Napolitano, Megyn Kelly, Lou Dobbs, and Ralph Nader miss that? How did Charles Payne, African-American host on Fox radio, who has interviewed me three times, fail to detect its racism? How did Michael Medved miss its anti-Semitism?

In a 2009 cover story in the Atlantic, “The End of White America?” from which my chapter title was taken, professor Hua Hsu revels in the passing of America’s white majority. At Portland State, President Clinton got a huge ovation when he told students that white Americans will be a minority in 2050. Is this writer alone forbidden to broach the subject?

That homosexual acts are unnatural and immoral has been doctrine in the Catholic Church for 2,000 years. Is it now hate speech to restate traditional Catholic beliefs?

151 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:09:35pm

re: #150 Gus

It's dripping:

TL;DR version;
WHAAAAAAAAAAAA

152 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:09:37pm

re: #141 Romantic Heretic

There is no way on God's green earth Saddam would offer asylum to bin Laden, nor would bin Laden accept it if it was offered.

Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda link allegations timeline

14 January
ABC News reports that a few months after the embassy bombings in Africa, and the U.S. retaliation against Sudan and Afghanistan, bin Laden "reaches out to his friends in Iraq and Sudan." The report states
ABC News has learned that in December, an Iraqi intelligence chief, named Farouk Hijazi, now Iraq's ambassador to Turkey, made a secret trip to Afghanistan to meet with bin Laden. Three intelligence agencies tell ABC News they cannot be certain what was discussed, but almost certainly, they say, bin Laden has been told he would be welcome in Baghdad.[66]
This story is repeated by CNN on 13 February. The article reports that "Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has offered asylum to bin Laden, who openly supports Iraq against the Western powers."[67]

It was widely reported by reliable news agencies at the time. There was an offer but it wasn't accepted.

153 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:10:03pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

That's what I said this morning.

Here's what you said:

Be careful of revisionist history. Although a working relationship never materialized there were contacts and proposals for collaborative projects between Al qaeda and Saddam. Saddam even offered Bin Laden asylum if the Taliban threw him out.

This was in reply to

Are these the same sources that whispered about Saddam-Al-Qaeda connections, by any chance?

There is nothing "revisionist" in that last comment. The Senate intelligence review states that Saddam distrusted al-Qaeda, refused all requests for operational and material assistance, issued a general order that Iraq should not deal with al-Qaeda. The report states that there is no postwar info that Saddam attempted to facilitate a relationship with bin Laden. The report states that there was only 1 meeting between al-Qaeda and Hussein's regime, while in 2 cases Saddam rebuffed the attempts to meet. That's the whole of 3 communication attempts, as is stated in the report. In the one meeting that did happen Saddam rejected Bin Laden's requests for office in Iraq, mines and training, but considered broadcasting anti-Saudi speeches, altho there is no evidence that any speeches were ever broadcast. You may say that formally this sole meeting means a "connection", but it would be a rather pathetic stance. Then there is a US-Taliban connection too, since there were reports of meetings.
In other words, in context of the discussion my comment was spot-on, while your attempted correction was misleading and revisionist.

154 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:11:04pm

re: #153 e_e

Here's what you said:

This was in reply to

There is nothing "revisionist" in that last comment. The Senate intelligence review states that Saddam distrusted al-Qaeda, refused all requests for operational and material assistance, issued a general order that Iraq should not deal with al-Qaeda. The report states that there is no postwar info that Saddam attempted to facilitate a relationship with bin Laden. The report states that there was only 1 meeting between al-Qaeda and Hussein's regime, while in 2 cases Saddam rebuffed the attempts to meet. That's the whole of 3 communication attempts, as is stated in the report. In the one meeting that did happen Saddam rejected Bin Laden's requests for office in Iraq, mines and training, but considered broadcasting anti-Saudi speeches, altho there is no evidence that any speeches were ever broadcast. You may say that formally this sole meeting means a "connection", but it would be a rather pathetic stance. The there is a US-Taliban connection too, since there were reports of meetings.
In other words, in context of the discussion my comment was spot-on, while your attempted correction was misleading and revisionist.

Yeah, but, wikipedia!

155 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:11:53pm

re: #152 Killgore Trout

Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda link allegations timeline

It was widely reported by reliable news agencies at the time. There was an offer but it wasn't accepted.

Just because it was reported does not make it true.

157 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:14:00pm

re: #155 e_e

Just because it was reported does not make it true.

A news report from January 14, 1999.

158 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:14:41pm

re: #156 Kragar

Of course he says that, Fischer is an Un-American Prick.

159 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:14:47pm

What's all this mind reading of two dead degenerates going to achieve? Either one would have done any of the alleged things, if expedient at the time.

Yes it's true that GWB made claims that were not backed by evidence. We all know that part.

160 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:14:55pm

I can get everything right about my homemade pizza other than getting the goddamn dough to form a rough circle. This current one looks like a Gary Larson amoeba.

161 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:15:07pm

re: #157 Varek Raith

A news report from January 14, 1999.

That says "almost certainly" and "they cannot be certain what was discussed".

162 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:15:18pm

re: #155 e_e

Just because it was reported does not make it true.

We are basically saying the same thing so there's no need to argue about it. There were contacts but no operational relationship developed. Mostly from bin Laden's objections but not for lack of Iraq's overtures. The wiki article seems fairly accurate. It's an interesting refresher.

163 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:15:24pm

re: #155 e_e

Just because it was reported does not make it true.

See also: Weapons of Mass Destruction, yellow cake, being greeted as liberators, etc.

164 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:15:32pm

We raided their entire intel agency during and after the war.
We found nothing.

165 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:16:06pm

re: #148 Lidane

I didn't even click the link. I moused over it and read the site name and that was enough. I'm not looking at that, even if it is just a cache.

You are not missing anything. I have a tendency to don the hazmat suit and wade around in the muck from time to time, but that place looks to be even to toxic for me.

166 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:17:04pm

TN State Senator worries children might find out gay people exist

Sen. Stacey Campfield’s “Don’t Say Gay” bill made it out of a House subcommittee today, banning discussion of all but “natural human reproduction science” before the ninth grade in public schools.

Before the House education subcommittee acted, chairman Joey Hensley scored bonus points by admonishing all Tennessee parents not to let their children watch “Modern Family” on television because they might discover there are homosexuals in the world.

167 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:17:07pm

re: #163 Lidane

See also: Weapons of Mass Destruction, yellow cake, being greeted as liberators, etc.

See: avenge the failure of my father, GHWB, Desert Storm.

168 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:17:24pm

re: #71 BongCrodny

Rick Santorum was born May 10, 1958.

The Number 1 song on May 10, 1958 was "Witch Doctor."

Just sayin'.

Ooh ee ooh ah ah
Ting tang walla walla bing bang!

169 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:17:29pm

re: #164 Varek Raith

We raided their entire intel agency during and after the war.
We found nothing.

Damn, they were good.
/

170 SmithCommaJohn  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:17:54pm
171 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:18:35pm

re: #160 Obdicut

I can get everything right about my homemade pizza other than getting the goddamn dough to form a rough circle. This current one looks like a Gary Larson amoeba.

You know what works really well for mini pizzas? Those sandwich rounds in the bread aisle at the store. A tablespoon of pizza sauce, some pepperoni, and shredded cheese, then toss them in a 375 degree oven for 10 minutes and voila!

Quick, easy, and painless.

172 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:18:37pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

I love this line: "If you were Satan, who would you attack?"

Gays. Women who want final say and control over their own bodies. Atheists. I could go on.
/

173 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:19:14pm

More Pat Bukkkanan blather:

The modus operandi of these thought police at Color of Change and ADL is to brand as racists and anti-Semites any writer who dares to venture outside the narrow corral in which they seek to confine debate. All the while prattling about their love of dissent and devotion to the First Amendment, they seek systematically to silence and censor dissent.

Without a hearing, they smear and stigmatize as racist, homophobic, or anti-Semitic any who contradict what George Orwell once called their “smelly little orthodoxies.” They then demand that the heretic recant, grovel, apologize, and pledge to go forth and sin no more.

Defy them, and they will go after the network where you work, the newspapers that carry your column, the conventions that invite you to speak. If all else fails, they go after the advertisers.

I know these blacklisters. They operate behind closed doors, with phone calls, mailed threats, and off-the-record meetings. They work in the dark because, as Al Smith said, nothing un-American can live in the sunlight.

174 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:19:54pm

re: #160 Obdicut

I can get everything right about my homemade pizza other than getting the goddamn dough to form a rough circle. This current one looks like a Gary Larson amoeba.

Do you have a potter's wheel?

175 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:21:01pm

re: #174 Decatur Deb

Do you have a potter's wheel?

Oddly enough, no. I have an old-school record player, will that help?

176 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:21:04pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

I love this line: "If you were Satan, who would you attack?"

No, wait. I've changed my mind. Primus. I would attack Primus. Because they suck.

177 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:21:27pm
If you were Satan, who would you attack?

Goldman Sachs, AIG, Wall Street in general. Why?

178 Big Joe Ghazi  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:22:25pm

re: #175 Obdicut

Oddly enough, no. I have an old-school record player, will that help?

Only if it can do 78 RPM.

179 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:22:39pm

re: #162 Killgore Trout

We are basically saying the same thing so there's no need to argue about it. There were contacts but no operational relationship developed. Mostly from bin Laden's objections but not for lack of Iraq's overtures. The wiki article seems fairly accurate. It's an interesting refresher.

If we were saying the same thing, you wouldn't have chimed in with your "revisionist history" comment.

Remember, we were discussing a comment by NJDH about reports from anon sources:

Al Qaeda is getting a little help from their friends.

Iran helping al Qaeda plot attack on West, intelligence sources say

To which I replied:

Are these the same sources that whispered about Saddam-Al-Qaeda connections, by any chance?

Obviously, everything is connected to everything, and we can always find a chain of connections. But context matters, and in the context of the discussion it is all too clear that there were no such kinds of connections between Al-Qaeda and Saddam.

180 BongCrodny  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:23:51pm

re: #168 Look At My New Grandbaby!

Ooh ee ooh ah ah
Ting tang walla walla bing bang!

Sadly, that makes more sense than anything Santorum is saying.

181 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:24:12pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

I love this line: "If you were Satan, who would you attack?"

The "Weird Trick" Mom!

Oh wait, that IS Satan.

182 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:24:22pm

re: #177 Lidane

Goldman Sachs, AIG, Wall Street in general. Why?

[Video]

Plus, if you were Satan, you wouldn't want the competition.

183 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:25:31pm

re: #124 Varek Raith

This button flushes the toilet.
That one erases existence.
I think.

Who did you set to guard the button?
:)

184 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:26:28pm

re: #148 Lidane

I didn't even click the link. I moused over it and read the site name and that was enough. I'm not looking at that, even if it is just a cache.

Agreed. Ick.

185 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:27:01pm

re: #124 Varek Raith

This button flushes the toilet.
That one erases existence.
I think.

Yes, but what do the three seashells do?

186 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:27:25pm

re: #184 William Barnett-Lewis

Agreed. Ick.

Good call. I looked.

187 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:27:30pm

re: #183 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

[Video]Who did you set to guard the button?
:)

188 SmithCommaJohn  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:27:31pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

I love this line: "If you were Satan, who would you attack?"

Probably Satan worshipers. Just for laughs. He is Satan, after all. What did they expect?

189 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:28:06pm

re: #185 e_e

Yes, but what do the three seashells do?

DELUMINATE

190 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:28:28pm

re: #182 Kragar

Plus, if you were Satan, you wouldn't want the competition.

Well yeah. He's pissed they took his job. ;)

191 erik_t  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:28:44pm

re: #160 Obdicut

I can get everything right about my homemade pizza other than getting the goddamn dough to form a rough circle. This current one looks like a Gary Larson amoeba.

The key is circumferential rolling and hand-stretching. You can't just roll radially and get anything even approaching round.

Of course, it's also wise to fold over the edge to form a thicker edge crust, vaguely like a pie. This hides indiscretions on the order of 1/2".

192 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:29:18pm

re: #160 Obdicut

I can get everything right about my homemade pizza other than getting the goddamn dough to form a rough circle. This current one looks like a Gary Larson amoeba.

Label all the toppings as the appropriate organelles and make a biology presentation out of it.

193 BongCrodny  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:30:44pm

If I were Satan, I'd attack the guy who stocks the candy machine in the laundromat next to my apartment.

Because if I get just one more fucking candy bar with an expiration date of May 2011, there's gonna be holy hell to pay.

194 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:31:56pm

re: #193 BongCrodny

If I were Satan, I'd attack the guy who stocks the candy machine in the laundromat next to my apartment.

Because if I get just one more fucking candy bar with an expiration date of May 2011, there's gonna be holy hell to pay.

That sounds like an option Peter Cook would take.

195 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:32:21pm

If I were Satan, I would troll Rick.

196 steve_davis  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:32:51pm

re: #35 dragonath

Oh boy, the university that Satorum delivered this at sounds like a real party. Anyway, I found this bit on Wikipedia to be the most interesting:

As I recall, Ave Maria doesn't even rate a pulse on the Law School Predicter site. It's somewhere in the "fighting for ABA accreditation" range.

197 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:34:03pm

re: #191 erik_t

Tossing the dough is the only way to go. Any other method is Satanic in origin.

198 BongCrodny  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:34:11pm

The truth behind the Van Halen brown M&M's story:

Melts in your mouth, not in your Van

199 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:34:22pm

My wife is now drinking straight out of a Bombay Sapphire bottle.

I'm fairly sure it's just water in there.

Fairly sure.

200 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:34:28pm

re: #195 Varek Raith

If I were Satan, I would troll Rick.

Satan would likely move on to another planet.

//

201 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:34:41pm

If I were Satan, I'd have lunch every day with Ronald Reagan, because that guy's funny

202 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:35:05pm

re: #201 windupbird is in the gravity well

If I were Satan, I'd have lunch every day with Ronald Reagan, because that guy's funny

You'll burn in hell for that comment!

//

203 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:35:28pm

re: #201 windupbird is in the gravity well

If I were Satan, I'd have lunch every day with Ronald Reagan, because that guy's funny

"Tell me the trickle down one again!"

204 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:36:00pm

re: #203 Kragar

"Tell me the trickle down one again!"

"And then the one about how a union boss got a reputation as a union buster!"

205 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:36:22pm

re: #201 windupbird is in the gravity well

Careful. He has a temper.

206 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:36:29pm

If I were Satan I'd have lunch with Sarah Palin and convince her she was Presidential material.

207 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:36:44pm

re: #206 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

If I were Satan I'd have lunch with Sarah Palin and convince her she was Presidential material.

DICK!

208 jaunte  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:38:22pm

re: #206 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

"I think that months from now, if that’s the case, then, you know, all bets are off as to who it will be willing to offer themselves up in the name of service to their country. I would — I would do whatever I could to help."

209 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:39:11pm

re: #208 jaunte

"I think that months from now, if that’s the case, then, you know, all bets are off as to who it will be willing to offer themselves up in the name of service to their country. I would — I would do whatever I could to help."

*wink wink* *nudge nudge*

210 jaunte  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:40:50pm

A GOP nightmare scenario
Santorum wins the primaries and caucuses,
but Romney wins the delegates.

211 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:40:57pm

How The GOP Went Back To The 1950s In Just One Day

Very neatly, and on three separate fronts, conservatives in America turned the clock back to the 1950s with their rhetoric about women’s rights Thursday, according to women in politics on both sides of the aisle. This could be a big problem for the GOP when the calendar reaches November.

Continues.

212 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:41:03pm

And a few hours later dinner with Michelle Bachmann and convince her as well.

213 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:41:24pm

Just saw a guy in Star Wars running a smuggler run by me named Jaq'Sparo

DAMN IT! Why didn't I think of that?

214 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:42:28pm

re: #206 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

If I were Satan I'd have lunch with Sarah Palin and convince her she was Presidential material.

I doubt she needs any convincing. She seems to have a pretty big ego. On second thought, it's a lot of hard work & stress for 4 whole years, and they pay's not that great, so, yeah, maybe she would need convincing.

215 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:42:43pm
216 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:42:45pm

re: #179 e_e

To which I replied:

Are these the same sources that whispered about Saddam-Al-Qaeda connections, by any chance?

Obviously, everything is connected to everything, and we can always find a chain of connections. But context matters, and in the context of the discussion it is all too clear that there were no such kinds of connections between Al-Qaeda and Saddam.

My objection was to the "connections". There were actually quite a few well documented connections although no working collaborative relationship. To say there were no connections is not historically or factually correct.

217 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:43:29pm

re: #210 jaunte

A GOP nightmare scenario
Santorum wins the primaries and caucuses,
but Romney wins the delegates.

At this point, I think the entire primary season is a GOP nightmare scenario.

218 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:44:32pm

re: #191 erik_t

The key is circumferential rolling and hand-stretching. You can't just roll radially and get anything even approaching round.

Of course, it's also wise to fold over the edge to form a thicker edge crust, vaguely like a pie. This hides indiscretions on the order of 1/2".

I just say heck with it and use a rectangular cake pan ;)

219 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:44:32pm

re: #210 jaunte

A GOP nightmare scenario
Santorum wins the primaries and caucuses,
but Romney wins the delegates.

In such a scenario, one of two things happens: A brokered convention or a forced "unity ticket." Neither is something the GOP really wants to contemplate at this point.

220 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:44:36pm

Derp!

221 jaunte  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:45:08pm

re: #211 Gus

Friess’ comment was astonishing in two ways. First, it derailed the entire contraception debate that Republicans have been desperate to keep about “religious freedom” rather than make it about, well, who does or does not keep her knees together.

Revealing, but not astonishing.

222 jaunte  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:45:37pm

re: #220 Gus

That should be interesting.

223 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:45:55pm

re: #220 Gus

Derp!

AKA "IT WAS FUNNY, YOU DOPES!"

Saw the video, it spoke for itself

224 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:46:10pm

re: #220 Gus

Translation;

Watch MSNBC 10pmET tonight as I join @Lawrence O'Donnell to get clobbered on my aspirin joke...

225 Lidane  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:46:25pm

re: #220 Gus

I've seen a bunch of RWNJ's try to explain away his comment as a joke and saying that liberals just don't have a sense of humor.

Fuck that. He meant it and he showed how ignorant and backwards the modern GOP is behaving towards women. An all-male panel to talk about contraception followed by that aspirin nonsense? I can't imagine why people aren't laughing. =P

226 jamesfirecat  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:46:35pm

What is this... I don't even....

227 BongCrodny  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:47:01pm

re: #220 Gus

Watch MSNBC 10pmET tonight as I join @Lawrence O'Donnell to set the record straight on my aspirin joke...
— Foster Friess (@FosterFriess) February 17, 2012

He might be an idiot, but he makes good ice cream!

228 austin_blue  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:47:16pm

"Do you worship Satan?"

"No, but I sure as hell *respect* Him!

229 terraincognita  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:47:32pm

The problem is that Santorum is a serious candidate to become President of the United States. What is going on with this country? Listen to him. He is not that far away from Bryan Fischer, the real anti-Christ.

230 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:48:07pm

If I were Satan, I wouldn't be dorking around with the small stuff. I'd go straight into maximizing the suffering.

I'd be doing the math for the drug dealer on the corner on how much more he could make if he started selling that teenage runaway as well as crack.

I'd be whispering into that traveling businessman's ear (the married one, the father) that his wife will never find out what happens out of town, knowing that even if she doesn't, this marriage will never be what it would have been.

I'd spend some time lovingly convinced that woman with clinical depression that this world would be better off without her. It wouldn't; her family will actually suffer for years over this, but the mentally ill don't process these things correctly.

I'd make sure that someone failed to notice the sex offender moving in next to the family. I'd make sure that that mom and that dad gambled away the last of their self-esteem as well as the rent.

No penny ante stuff for me.

231 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:48:40pm

re: #216 Killgore Trout

My objection was to the "connections". There were actually quite a few well documented connections although no working collaborative relationship. The say there were no connections is not historically or factually correct.

Then you took my comment out of context of the discussion. Because in context it was clear what connections were meant. That is all.

Oh, and if we are such strict constructionists, there are Obama-Taliban connections too:

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Marc Grossman held the talks with Taliban representatives late last month in Qatar, where a team of Taliban diplomats is based ahead of the opening of a political office there to host negotiations between America, the insurgents and the Afghan government.

“I can confirm that Mr Grossman met with the Taliban representatives in Qatar. When the president (Mr Karzai) was in Rome, Grossman came over to his residence and briefed him about his meetings with the Taliban,” said the senior official, who asked to remain anonymous.

Representatives from the former Taliban regime assembled in Qatar last month, with the aim of opening the official office later this year “to come to an understanding with other nations”.

232 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:48:56pm

Derp II

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233 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:49:37pm

re: #230 No. Just, no.

If I were Satan, I wouldn't be dorking around with the small stuff. I'd go straight into maximizing the suffering.

I'd be doing the math for the drug dealer on the corner on how much more he could make if he started selling that teenage runaway as well as crack.

I'd be whispering into that traveling businessman's ear (the married one, the father) that his wife will never find out what happens out of town, knowing that even if she doesn't, this marriage will never be what it would have been.

I'd spend some time lovingly convinced that woman with clinical depression that this world would be better off without her. It wouldn't; her family will actually suffer for years over this, but the mentally ill don't process these things correctly.

I'd make sure that someone failed to notice the sex offender moving in next to the family. I'd make sure that that mom and that dad gambled away the last of their self-esteem as well as the rent.

No penny ante stuff for me.

How about walking down the street making all the parking meters immediately expire regardless of the time left on them?

234 BongCrodny  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:49:53pm

re: #225 Lidane

I've seen a bunch of RWNJ's try to explain away his comment as a joke and saying that liberals just don't have a sense of humor.

There's a thousand comedians over the years from Groucho Marx to Jim Gaffigan over whom I've laughed myself into a near heart attack.

I'll confess to having no sense of humor toward stuff that's just not funny.

235 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:49:57pm

re: #230 No. Just, no.

That is indeed how Satan works. Not with the big, fancy stuff; but with the day to day subtle corruption of individuals.

236 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:50:20pm

re: #235 Romantic Heretic

That is indeed how Satan works. Not with the big, fancy stuff; but with the day to day subtle corruption of individuals.

BORING!

237 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:50:38pm

re: #233 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

How about walking down the street making all the parking meters immediately expire regardless of the time left on them?

That's up there with making sure you run out of ink when you're already running late to the meeting.

238 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:50:43pm

re: #225 Lidane

I've seen a bunch of RWNJ's try to explain away his comment as a joke and saying that liberals just don't have a sense of humor.

Fuck that. He meant it and he showed how ignorant and backwards the modern GOP is behaving towards women. An all-male panel to talk about contraception followed by that aspirin nonsense? I can't imagine why people aren't laughing. =P

Man's a product of his generation, those dinosaurs who grew up in the 50s and so think women being treated as barely intelligent house pets is the way of things.

239 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:51:11pm

re: #230 No. Just, no.

If I were Satan, I wouldn't be dorking around with the small stuff. I'd go straight into maximizing the suffering.

I'd be doing the math for the drug dealer on the corner on how much more he could make if he started selling that teenage runaway as well as crack.

I'd be whispering into that traveling businessman's ear (the married one, the father) that his wife will never find out what happens out of town, knowing that even if she doesn't, this marriage will never be what it would have been.

I'd spend some time lovingly convinced that woman with clinical depression that this world would be better off without her. It wouldn't; her family will actually suffer for years over this, but the mentally ill don't process these things correctly.

I'd make sure that someone failed to notice the sex offender moving in next to the family. I'd make sure that that mom and that dad gambled away the last of their self-esteem as well as the rent.

No penny ante stuff for me.

You're no fun.
/

240 jaunte  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:51:24pm

re: #235 Romantic Heretic

He does usually take a hand in the Superbowl halftime.

241 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:52:19pm

re: #235 Romantic Heretic

That is indeed how Satan works. Not with the big, fancy stuff; but with the day to day subtle corruption of individuals.

Hey, you should have warned about the spoilers before you revealed the Needful Things plot!//

242 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:52:32pm

re: #236 Varek Raith

BORING!

Which is what makes it so effective.

243 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:52:51pm

re: #232 Gus

Derp II

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Registered since: Feb 16, 2012 at 12:02 pm
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I think that was its goal. And to fill the Bottom Comments slot.

244 What, me worry?  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:53:31pm

So according to Santorum, college kids and the Protestants are driving our society to hell. He left out dudes who wear sweater vests. I mean, come on. Really...

245 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:53:53pm

re: #241 e_e

Hey, you should have warned about the spoilers before you revealed the Needful Things plot!//

Actually, I was revealing the Something Wicked This Way Comes plot.

246 austin_blue  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:54:03pm

If I were Satan, I would design urban highway systems to achieve maximum gridlock.

Oh, wait...

Hmmm...

247 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:54:35pm

re: #245 Romantic Heretic

Actually, I was revealing the something Wicked This Way Comes plot.

Like he said...

248 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:54:39pm

re: #236 Varek Raith

BORING!

That's right. You'd go big with convincing Lucas to make more Star Wars sequels. And B&B to control Star Trek again. Just generate those TV-inflicted Dark Side points wholesale.

249 What, me worry?  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:55:28pm

I ♥ the edit feature.

250 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:55:30pm

re: #248 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

That's right. You'd go big with convincing Lucas to make more Star Wars sequels. And B&B to control Star Trek again. Just generate those TV-inflicted Dark Side points wholesale.

MUHAHAHAHA!

251 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:55:50pm

re: #220 Gus

Friess needs to go to hell and go fuck himself.

252 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:55:59pm

re: #249 marjoriemoon

I ♥ the edit feature.

I covet your little heart.

253 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:56:05pm

re: #245 Romantic Heretic

Actually, I was revealing the something Wicked This Way Comes plot.

Wait. You actually revealed the plot of The Man that Corrupted Hadleyburg.

254 aagcobb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:56:07pm

re: #210 jaunte

A GOP nightmare scenario
Santorum wins the primaries and caucuses,
but Romney wins the delegates.

I think a bigger nightmare scenario for the GOP is Frothy winning the primaries and the delegates and getting the nomination. I heard him on Hannity this afternoon, and he said he personally opposed contraceptives because they cause unintended pregnancies!

255 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:56:35pm

re: #250 Varek Raith

MUHAHAHAHA!

But another Ewok Christmas special would be a dead giveaway. Part of the plan has been to convince everyone that you don't exist.

256 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:56:46pm

re: #252 No. Just, no.

I covet your little heart.

257 BongCrodny  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:56:50pm

re: #248 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

That's right. You'd go big with convincing Lucas to make more Star Wars sequels. And B&B to control Star Trek again. Just generate those TV-inflicted Dark Side points wholesale.

Some of us believe that Satan was very influential in developing The Star Wars Holiday Special.

258 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:57:15pm

re: #256 Varek Raith


Right, can't format a post like that.
Whoops

259 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:57:36pm

re: #248 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

That's right. You'd go big with convincing Lucas to make more Star Wars sequels. And B&B to control Star Trek again. Just generate those TV-inflicted Dark Side points wholesale.

Not just no, but HELL NO!

260 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:58:09pm

re: #244 marjoriemoon

So according to Santorum, college kids and the Protestants are driving our society to hell. He left out dudes who were sweater vests. I mean, come on. Really...

That he qualifies it as "mainstream Protestants" is an indicator of who he's pitching to. Scary nutty....

261 What, me worry?  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:58:23pm

re: #252 No. Just, no.

I covet your little heart.

I covet your coveting.

(Alt + keypad 3)

262 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:58:24pm

I tell you what. So if all of this is a result of "Satan's handiwork" he sure is a boring guy. I mean seriously? I think I could come up with some seriously demonic shit than this.

//

263 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:58:40pm

Also, as Satan, I will give Uwe Boll the movie rights to all videogame franchises.

264 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:58:46pm

re: #257 BongCrodny

Some of us believe that Satan was very influential in developing The Star Wars Holiday Special.

It backfired. Jesus loves Wookies.

265 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:59:06pm

re: #260 The Ghost of a Flea

That he qualifies it as "mainstream Protestants" is an indicator of who he's pitching to. Scary nutty...

Remember that if Santorum gets the nom and loses it will be because he is not Protestant enough.

266 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:59:29pm

re: #263 Varek Raith

Also, as Satan, I will give Uwe Boll the movie rights to all videogame franchises.

You monster!

267 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:59:36pm

re: #263 Varek Raith

Also, as Satan, I will give Uwe Boll the movie rights to all videogame franchises.

I would watch Skyrim just for kicks.

268 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:59:57pm

re: #263 Varek Raith

Also, as Satan, I will give Uwe Boll the movie rights to all videogame franchises.

That is a horrifying thought. Excuse me while I change my trousers.

269 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:00:49pm

re: #265 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Remember that if Santorum gets the nom and loses it will be because he is not Protestant enough.

I think he protestant too much already.

270 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:01:03pm

Okay, different hypothetical...

If you were the Easter Bunny...

271 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:01:18pm

re: #263 Varek Raith

Also, as Satan, I will give Uwe Boll the movie rights to all videogame franchises.

YOU BASTARD!

272 BongCrodny  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:01:25pm

re: #255 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

But another Ewok Christmas special would be a dead giveaway. Part of the plan has been to convince everyone that you don't exist.

"Beaten to the punch by 15 seconds" upding.

273 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:01:44pm

re: #270 Slumbering Behemoth

Okay, different hypothetical...

If you were the Easter Bunny...

Bite off the head of an Englishman.

274 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:01:48pm

re: #250 Varek Raith

MUHAHAHAHA!

Here, this is for you. You can paste it into your posts.

275 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:02:19pm

re: #270 Slumbering Behemoth

Okay, different hypothetical...

If you were the Easter Bunny...

Have sex like a bunny of course.

//

276 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:03:01pm

If I were Rick Santorum.. er.. I mean Satan...

277 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:03:08pm

re: #273 Varek Raith

Bite off the head of an Englishman.

Giant marshmallow Frank Perdues for all the children.

278 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:03:25pm

re: #276 Slumbering Behemoth

If I were Rick Santorum.. er.. I mean Satan...

I'd burn the sweater to begin with.

279 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:03:27pm

re: #273 Varek Raith

Bite off the head of an Englishman.

Fee-fi-fo-fum...

280 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:03:49pm
281 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:04:16pm

re: #276 Slumbering Behemoth

If I were Rick Santorum.. er.. I mean Satan...

Wait! Wait! Got another one. What would you do if you were a Canadian!

//

282 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:04:20pm

re: #278 Targetpractice

I'd burn the sweater to begin with.

No. Sweater vests are the armor of Satan.

283 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:04:58pm

re: #282 Slumbering Behemoth

No. Sweater vests are the armor of Satan.

Figured Satan is gay.

284 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:05:21pm

re: #281 Gus

Wait! Wait! Got another one. What would you do if you were a Canadian!

//

I'd sneak across the border into The States and mug an American for his job.

285 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:05:33pm

re: #275 Gus

Have sex like a bunny of course.

//

Image: PBF069-Not_Today_Little_One.jpg
or
Image: PBF077-Bunny_Pit.jpg
?

286 jaunte  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:06:27pm

re: #280 Charles Johnson

Good points.

Evidently the right of conscience for doctors who oppose abortion are a matter of grave national concern. The ethical and professional obligations of physicians who would merely like to perform their jobs without physically violating their own patients are, however, immaterial.
Don’t even bother asking whether this law would have passed had it involved physically penetrating a man instead of a woman without consent.
[Link: www.slate.com...]

287 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:06:36pm

re: #281 Gus

Wait! Wait! Got another one. What would you do if you were a Canadian!

//

Secret underground labs for the development of the Poutine Bomb. And then tell those annoying Americans to "take off!".

288 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:06:55pm

re: #281 Gus

Wait! Wait! Got another one. What would you do if you were a Canadian!

//

Trick question. Canadians only think about how to serve their master, Satan, better.

289 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:07:38pm

re: #288 The Ghost of a Flea

Trick question. Canadians only think about how to serve their master, Satan Stephen Harper, better.

FTFY

//

290 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:07:58pm

♥♥♥♥

That took me a bit. I have to push the two and then let up. Only then does the little heart appear.

Now, as for the Canadian question: I'd sneak across the border and fill up on real bacon.

291 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:08:28pm

re: #283 Varek Raith

Figured Satan is gay.

You didn't know?

292 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:08:37pm

Evening Lizardim. So are we going to see a resurgence of mail concerning Stan?

293 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:09:03pm

re: #285 e_e

Kyle Kinane - Bunnies

*Language Warning*

294 What, me worry?  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:09:13pm

re: #286 jaunte

Good points.

I was eyeballing the side story, "How to Get Mormons to Put You On the "Do-Not-Baptize" List." And can I do it from my cell phone?

295 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:10:13pm

re: #292 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim. So are we going to see a resurgence of mail concerning Stan?

If Satan is out destroying America, there's a cabal of necromancers who owe me a refund.

296 What, me worry?  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:10:35pm

re: #290 No. Just, no.

♥♥♥♥

That took me a bit. I have to push the two and then let up. Only then does the little heart appear.

Now, as for the Canadian question: I'd sneak across the border and fill up on real bacon.

I'm sorry. I should have said. Hold the alt down. Push the 3, then let go of the 3. Then let go of the alt.

297 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:10:37pm

re: #294 marjoriemoon

I was eyeballing the side story, "How to Get Mormons to Put You On the "Do-Not-Baptize" List." And can I do it from my cell phone?

If that happens to me, I will accept.
Then troll them for eternity in heaven.
:P

298 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:11:02pm

Note to GOP
The President need not concern him or herself with my or my friends sex lives. After all there is a country to run ya know...

299 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:12:20pm

re: #298 Antipasta Loving Antipartisan

Note to GOP
The President need not concern him or herself with my or my friends sex lives. After all there is a country to run ya know...

Apparently they've stopped running for President and are now running for Messiah.

300 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:12:41pm

Alright, so Stan is systematically destroying America. I have only one question for you, Mr. Santorum: How's your fiddle?

Johnny for President 2012!

301 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:13:22pm

re: #299 Targetpractice

Apparently they've stopped running for President and are now running for Messiah.

No thanks. We've already got-a one.

302 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:13:28pm

re: #299 Targetpractice

Apparently they've stopped running for President and are now running for Messiah Tyrant.

FTFY

303 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:14:02pm

re: #302 The Ghost of a Flea

FTFY

So this is how the Terran Empire came to be. Makes so much sense now.

//

304 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:14:18pm

re: #299 Targetpractice

Apparently they've stopped running for President and are now running for Messiah.

"ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND DESPAIR!" - Newt Gingrich

305 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:14:57pm

re: #303 Targetpractice

So this is how the Terran Empire came to be. Makes so much sense now.

//

Don't blame the Emperor, he was a militant secularist.

306 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:15:20pm

If you were Santa, who would you attack?

307 Kragar  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:15:44pm

re: #306 Slumbering Behemoth

If you were Santa, who would you attack?

Easter Island.

308 What, me worry?  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:15:45pm

re: #298 Antipasta Loving Antipartisan

Note to GOP
The President need not concern him or herself with my or my friends sex lives. After all there is a country to run ya know...

Yeaa.... but I heard the President sing Al Green and honey... I was greatly moved! He went from the geeky, skinny guy to "I'll do just about anything if you keep singing."

309 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:16:04pm

re: #306 Slumbering Behemoth

If you were Santa, who would you attack?

Santa Cruz

310 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:16:39pm

re: #299 Targetpractice

Apparently they've stopped running for President and are now running for Messiah.

Insta-favorite.

311 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:17:57pm

re: #309 Gus

I used to attack the Boardwalk every weekend. My chief weapon was double-fisted drinking. And cat calling. My two chief weapons were...

312 kirkspencer  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:18:00pm

re: #291 Kragar

You didn't know?

[Video]

I prefer

313 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:18:34pm

re: #307 Kragar

Easter Island.

The moai know what they did....

314 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:20:09pm

re: #243 wrenchwench

I think that was its goal. And to fill the Bottom Comments slot.

And fill the bottom comments slot it did!
A win for all!

315 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:20:43pm

re: #314 Floral Giraffe

And fill the bottom comments slot it did!
A win for all!

Aw, man, I missed the troll? BAH HUMBUG, I say!

316 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:20:59pm

Seriously, I look at Obama and I look at the GOP candidates and that age ol' election question comes to mine: "Would you have a beer with this guy?"

Obama, I'd have no problem with. He seems like the kinda guy who would not look out of place at a sports bar, knocking back a couple while watching his favorite team on the big screen.

Newt makes me think of the sleazeball who shows up at the bar, acting like he's God's gift to women, and walking out with some drunk floozy at last call because he convinced her that she'll be Wife #4.

Romney looks like he'd be uncomfortable stepping foot in a bar, let alone drinking a beer. Not the "den of ill repute" uncomfortable, but the "I'm surrounded by poor people!" sort of uncomfortable.

Santorum looks like he'd march into the bar in robes, preaching to the "wicked" about how they should turn away from their "sinful ways" and embrace God as their true savior...and promptly getting handed his ass before being thrown out the door.

And Crazy Uncle Ron...looks like the kinda guy who'd just bore people to death by trying to turn every conversation into yet another rant against the Fed. "Yes Ron, we know you hate the Fed, we've known for the last three hours."

317 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:22:26pm

re: #316 Targetpractice

Seriously, I look at Obama and I look at the GOP candidates and that age ol' election question comes to mine: "Would you have a beer with this guy?"

Obama, I'd have no problem with. He seems like the kinda guy who would not look out of place at a sports bar, knocking back a couple while watching his favorite team on the big screen.

Newt makes me think of the sleazeball who shows up at the bar, acting like he's God's gift to women, and walking out with some drunk floozy at last call because he convinced her that she'll be Wife #4.

Romney looks like he'd be uncomfortable stepping foot in a bar, let alone drinking a beer. Not the "den of ill repute" uncomfortable, but the "I'm surrounded by poor people!" sort of uncomfortable.

Santorum looks like he'd march into the bar in robes, preaching to the "wicked" about how they should turn away from their "sinful ways" and embrace God as their true savior...and promptly getting handed his ass before being thrown out the door.

And Crazy Uncle Ron...looks like the kinda guy who'd just bore people to death by trying to turn every conversation into yet another rant against the Fed. "Yes Ron, we know you hate the Fed, we've known for the last three hours."

Yeah, but *hic* there's this res*hic*erve... And a *hic* whole pile o gold *passes out*

318 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:22:31pm

Pat Buchanan got canned from MSNBC.

[Link: www.theamericanconservative.com...]

319 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:24:00pm

re: #318 Conservative Moonbat

Pat Buchanan got canned from MSNBC.

[Link: www.theamericanconservative.com...]

Outrageous outrage!!!1!1one

Derp.

320 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:24:00pm

re: #318 Conservative Moonbat

Pat Buchanan got canned from MSNBC.

[Link: www.theamericanconservative.com...]

They finally shit-canned him?

321 Gus  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:24:38pm
322 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:25:16pm

re: #283 Varek Raith

Figured Satan is gay.

Everyone dreams, Satan can dream too!

323 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:26:00pm

re: #318 Conservative Moonbat

"After 10 enjoyable years, I am departing, after an incessant clamor from the left that to permit me continued access to the microphones of MSNBC would be an outrage against decency, and dangerous."

I don't know how to tell you this Pat, but I'm not from "the left", and I've been sick of you're shit for a lot longer than most of the young folk from "the left". Fuck off, and goodbye.

324 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:26:41pm

re: #316 Targetpractice

Romney wouldn't drink beer anyway. He's a Mormon.

325 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:29:30pm

re: #324 e_e

Romney wouldn't drink beer anyway. He's a Mormon.

At this point, I'm not sure even he really believes he is anymore, the way he keeps weaving and dodging around it to avoid the scarlet "M" on his lapel.

326 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:29:52pm

re: #324 e_e

Romney wouldn't drink beer anyway. He's a Mormon.

He'd have a Shirley Temple.

327 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:29:57pm

re: #324 e_e

He could drink near-beer, or O'Douls, though I've never figured out why anyone would.

328 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:30:35pm

re: #327 Obdicut

He could drink near-beer, or O'Douls, though I've never figured out why anyone would.

That's still 1% or 2% ABV so I don't think he could.

329 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:30:36pm

re: #325 Targetpractice

At this point, I'm not sure even he really believes he is anymore, the way he keeps weaving and dodging around it to avoid the scarlet "M" on his lapel.

I highly doubt it. He was a Stake President.

330 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:31:12pm

re: #327 Obdicut

He could drink near-beer, or O'Douls, though I've never figured out why anyone would.

Alcohol-free beer is the first step towards a blow-up woman.

331 Big Joe Ghazi  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:31:18pm

Romney ‘Delighted’ GM is Profitable, Credits Managed Bankruptcy

Hours after General Motors announced that it earned its highest profit in its storied history last year, Mitt Romney said he is “delighted” at its success and took credit for the managed bankruptcy that helped to rescue the struggling corporation, saying he “recommended [it] from the very beginning.”

Hoo boy.

332 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:31:29pm

re: #316 Targetpractice

And Crazy Uncle Ron...looks like the kinda guy who'd just bore people to death by trying to turn every conversation into yet another rant against the Fed. "Yes Ron, we know you hate the Fed, we've known for the last three hours."

Fixed it. I pasted the wrong version in there.

333 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:31:45pm

re: #331 I'd rather be sailing

Romney ‘Delighted’ GM is Profitable, Credits Managed Bankruptcy

Hoo boy.

"I was for the bankruptcy before I was against it."

334 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:31:51pm

re: #331 I'd rather be sailing

Romney ‘Delighted’ GM is Profitable, Credits Managed Bankruptcy

Hoo boy.

Uhm, no Mittens, they're not gonna buy that one. Try again.

335 What, me worry?  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:33:21pm

re: #323 Slumbering Behemoth

I don't know how to tell you this Pat, but I'm not from "the left", and I've been sick of you're shit for a lot longer than most of the young folk from "the left". Fuck off, and goodbye.

Wonder where he'll end up!

336 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:34:01pm

re: #335 marjoriemoon

Wonder where he'll end up!

Well, I did hear that Napolitano's old time slot just opened...

337 aagcobb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:34:20pm

Sad news for baseball fans, Gary Carter has passed.

338 What, me worry?  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:35:26pm

re: #337 SantorumSurging

Sad news for baseball fans, Gary Carter has passed.

I saw that on the Twitter! Gah! So young. Very very sad.

339 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:35:58pm

I just saw this awesome comment on TPM:

The War On Contraception will be an "electoral winner in states with heavy Catholic populations?" Hahaha! Here in heavily Catholic Massachusetts, it's going over like a fart in church. We Catholics here love our birth control and our gay marriage and our universal health care. Gay marriage, it turns out, hasn't ushered in an era of man-on-dog sex. The Catholic Church, on the other hand, has ushered in an era of priest-on-child sex, so you'll need to forgive us for not blindly accepting their advice on how to have sex correctly.

340 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:36:21pm

re: #335 marjoriemoon

Some place like Vdare, no doubt.

341 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:36:45pm

re: #339 ProGunLiberal

I just saw this awesome comment on TPM:

That one's gonna leave a mark.

342 recusancy  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:37:06pm

re: #115 Killgore Trout

That's Ok. I understand that lefties have a different version of Iraq war history. There's nothing I can do about that and debating it here would just be upsetting to the community. I'm pretty tired with swimming against the current.

No you're not. You love it.

343 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:37:17pm

re: #340 Slumbering Behemoth

Some place like Vdare, no doubt.

He was already there.

344 What, me worry?  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:37:38pm

re: #340 Slumbering Behemoth

Some place like Vdare, no doubt.

I always thought he'd be more at home at Fox.

345 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:38:10pm

re: #341 Targetpractice

This current Pope is a massive tool. I liked JPII alot, and I was sad (as a 15 year old who was lost Relgiously) that he died.

Benedict on the other hand....

346 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:38:36pm

re: #343 wrenchwench

I was trying to be sarcastic. I failed.

347 What, me worry?  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:38:51pm

re: #339 ProGunLiberal

I just saw this awesome comment on TPM:

Oh... well, that's precious!

348 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:39:13pm

re: #346 Slumbering Behemoth

I was trying to be sarcastic. I failed.

I blame Pat.

349 aagcobb  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:40:01pm

re: #316 Targetpractice

Seriously, I look at Obama and I look at the GOP candidates and that age ol' election question comes to mine: "Would you have a beer with this guy?"

Obama, I'd have no problem with. He seems like the kinda guy who would not look out of place at a sports bar, knocking back a couple while watching his favorite team on the big screen.

Newt makes me think of the sleazeball who shows up at the bar, acting like he's God's gift to women, and walking out with some drunk floozy at last call because he convinced her that she'll be Wife #4.

Romney looks like he'd be uncomfortable stepping foot in a bar, let alone drinking a beer. Not the "den of ill repute" uncomfortable, but the "I'm surrounded by poor people!" sort of uncomfortable.

Santorum looks like he'd march into the bar in robes, preaching to the "wicked" about how they should turn away from their "sinful ways" and embrace God as their true savior...and promptly getting handed his ass before being thrown out the door.

And Crazy Uncle Ron...looks like the kinda guy who'd just bore people to death by trying to turn every conversation into yet another rant against the Fed. "Yes Ron, we know you hate the Fed, we've known for the last three hours."

Now Huckabee is the guy you'd jam with. In a way I'm glad he didn't run this year, because he's way more likeable than any of the candidates the GOP is left with.

350 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:40:22pm

re: #337 SantorumSurging

Sad news for baseball fans, Gary Carter has passed.

Never liked him due to some of his statements (and being a Pirates fan). But the Parker-Carter play in the one all-star game that was also part of the TWIB intro for years is etched in my memory.

351 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:40:41pm

re: #338 marjoriemoon

I saw that on the Twitter! Gah! So young. Very very sad.

Brain cancer sucks.

352 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:41:22pm

re: #344 marjoriemoon

I always thought he'd be more at home at Fox.

I presumed he'd slip back to the netherworld until someone said "Turner Diaries" three times while staring into a mirror in a darkened room.

353 What, me worry?  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:43:30pm

re: #352 The Ghost of a Flea

I presumed he'd slip back to the netherworld until someone said "Turner Diaries" three times while staring into a mirror in a darkened room.

lol Pretty much the same thing, no?

354 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 5:44:20pm

re: #349 SantorumSurging

Now Huckabee is the guy you'd jam with. In a way I'm glad he didn't run this year, because he's way more likeable than any of the candidates the GOP is left with.

I think Huck stayed out of this because he knows that, no matter how it plays out, even a GOP win means taking responsibility for a faltering recovery for 4 years. It's a major gamble that could have stratospheric payoffs, but failure would mean virtually killing the GOP as a viable political party.

355 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:02:44pm

re: #83 Gus

What you think people were more humble and had better self-control back when the KKK was popular, Jim Crow laws, and during the time of slavery? This idea that this is some kind of new phenomenon is like the 50s stereotypes revolving around "Father Knows Best." If we could get a time machine and plant ourself in say, the Bowery during the days of Tammany Hall. Then compare how Americans were "back in the good old days" to today. People are downright civilized compared to the mythical days of old.

To get the feel for what America was like only about 150 years ago, one only has to watch films like The Gangs of New York; I know it's but a movie, but Scorsese got a lot of facts right.

The "good old days" got down right brutal sometimes.

356 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:03:01pm

re: #280 Charles Johnson

LGF Irrelevance Watch -- linked at Slate: Virginia Ultrasound Law: Women Who Want an Abortion Will Be Forcibly Penetrated for No Medical Reason.

I get it now. I get why the people who hate you are so furious lately. Certain people feel like they "made" LGF, that without them it (and you) were nothing. When you broke with them it was important that you suffer an ignominious fate, that LGF exist in limbo—irrelevant, but still alive so they could heap their scorn upon it, you, and everything & everyone connected to you.

Things were slow for a few years, but you kept plugging along, knowing that you'd made the right decision, consequences be damned. Things have been picking back up lately. LGF is getting noticed a lot. This cannot be tolerated.

It can't be tolerated because it means that they can no longer claim credit for your success. You're robbing them and they don't like it one bit.

I want to hear the whole story one day. The story of how a guy who loved music & webdev had his life changed by the events of 9/11...how he walked down a path with people he thought he liked, people who were once friends, and one day realized he was in a dark place with bad company. How did he feel? What thoughts went through his head?

It couldn't have been easy. Everyone who's old enough to have had a dysfunctional relationship or two knows that they're still hard to walk away from. Because they're familiar, oddly comfortable. I'm sure not all the people who left him or who he left were bad people, but they were not longer compatible, so something had to give.

How is is possible that this guy whose world was so shaken by 9/11, whose web site was filled with rage towards Muslims, ended up promoting an essay by a Muslim to the front page of his site on the 10th anniversary of 9/11?1 It must be a fascinating story, if one were to sit down and read or listen to it all in one go.

Will you tell it to us one day, Charles?

Okay, I've let my mind wander wayyyy off of what I originally wanted to say, and I'm posting this at the tail end of a dying thread, so I'll shut up now, heh.

1. It only dawned on me a couple of weeks ago how significant it was that my page was promoted to the front of LGF that day. It sort of shocked me that it took me that long to notice.

357 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:04:43pm

re: #109 Decatur Deb

President Santorum would be the National Command Authority head for 5,113 nuclear warheds.

Two words: Greg Stillson

358 docproto48  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:12:07pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

What I love is how he acts like things were just great in the past. Yeah, Rick, maybe you've forgotten what yours and mine Catholic forefathers went through. You know actually being treated like second class citizens because of our faith. Or worse the Black Americans who were enslaved in the name of Christianity.

Or worse yet, the systematic slaughter of native Americans (dare I say genocide) because they were "savages"

359 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:13:41pm

Who knew the GOP would endorse what amounts to a Taliban inspired sense of Theocracy?!

360 chandsolo  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:14:07pm

re: #330 e_e

Alcohol-free beer is the first step towards a blow-up woman.

Stealing this!

361 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:15:11pm

re: #360 chan

Stealing this!

Not mine, so you're welcome.

362 chandsolo  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:16:20pm

re: #361 e_e

EH, it's not like my twitter is ever original.

363 Petero1818  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 6:41:55pm

You know Ratzinger is not a young man, and his health is not that good. Someone might want to suggest to Santorum that he might be better suited to the Papacy than the Presidency. Just sayin.

364 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:01:46pm

re: #82 ProGunLiberal

To be honest, I'm more afraid of the backlash to Iran getting the Nuke, specifically, Saudi Arabia deciding they want the Nuke.

I'd prefer if no one in the Middle East had the Nuke.

Genies, bottles...

Of course, when it comes to Iran, I suspect that the Saudis think they don't need one of their own.

365 krypto  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 8:04:33pm

How interesting! So according to Santorum Satan attacks smart people.

That explains Santorum's immunity to Satan's power.

366 Flavia  Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:42:58pm

Actually, Santorum may have a point. Can you think of a better sign that Satan is systematically destroying American than for someone like Santorum to be seriously considered by anyone as President?

367 RIRedinPA  Fri, Feb 17, 2012 5:39:37am

Well, according to scripture the Beast will be arrayed in purple and scarlet...kind of like this...

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