Rick Santorum’s Crazed Attack on Prenatal Screening

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Speaking to the Ohio Christian Alliance today, the GOP frontrunner for the presidential nomination, Rick Santorum, said that he’s opposed to requiring health insurance to cover prenatal screening.

How in the world can anyone be opposed to prenatal testing? Because, according to Santorum, it’s just another part of President Obama’s nefarious scheme to promote abortions and “cull the ranks of the disabled.”

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Campaigning in Ohio on Saturday, Rick Santorum displayed his culture-warrior side in full force, as he harshly attacked President Obama by suggesting the president wanted to see more disabled babies aborted and accusing him of projecting his values - which Santorum claimed were not rooted in the Bible - on the Catholic Church.

Santorum recalled his prominent role in the 1990s debates over the controversial procedure that critics call partial-birth abortion. He lambasted the president’s health care law requiring insurance policies to include free prenatal testing, “because free prenatal testing ends up in more abortions and therefore less care that has to be done because we cull the ranks of the disabled in our society.”

And yes, Santorum also attacked President Obama for not governing according to the Bible.

Earlier in the day, the former Pennsylvania senator charged that Obama’s agenda is “not about you … It’s about some phony ideal. Some phony theology. Not a theology based on the Bible.”

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490 comments
1 HappyWarrior  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:49:32pm

He's not supposed to govern according to the Bible, Rick you dumbass.

2 Wayne A. Schneider  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:51:00pm

So how would Rick Santorum and his wife have known that her fetus might kill her without prenatal screening?

3 erik_t  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:51:12pm

There's clearly an audience for this sort of talk. Three months ago I wouldn't have guessed.

So many curious little slimy critters have been living under the socon rock, and they're far more willing to crawl out into the light than I'd realized.

4 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:51:43pm

And prostate exams are just a conspiracy to rob you of your manhood.

5 jaunte  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:52:12pm

Transparent windshield on your car? Why don't you trust God's plan?

6 Lidane  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:52:59pm

re: #2 Wayne A. Schneider

So how would Rick Santorum and his wife have known that her fetus might kill her without prenatal screening?

God would have told them. Duh.

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7 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:54:25pm

This guy has gone off the deep end.

8 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:54:59pm
Earlier in the day, the former Pennsylvania senator charged that Obama’s agenda is “not about you … It’s about some phony ideal. Some phony theology. Not a theology based on the Bible.”

Santorum is campaigning for Obama now?

9 HappyWarrior  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:55:08pm

re: #7 PhillyPretzel

This guy has gone off the deep end.

He's been off the deep end.

10 jaunte  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:55:21pm

Santorum is so liberal, he even wants people with phony theology to vote for him.

11 engineer cat  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:55:31pm

could be that saint ricky is at his peak and about to slide

12 Tigger2005  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:55:35pm

re: #7 PhillyPretzel

This guy has gone off the deep end.

This guy is in free-fall.

13 God of Binders with Women  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:55:40pm

re: #7 PhillyPretzel

This guy has gone off the deep end.

Standard operating procedure for Google My Name.

14 erik_t  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:55:42pm

This man's advisors are literally the stupidest people on earth. How can you let him out in public?

Actually this seems to be a recurring theme with Republican candidates named 'Rick'.

15 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:56:09pm

re: #5 jaunte

Transparent windshield on your car? Why don't you trust God's plan?

Taking Viagra which your insurance paid for? Why don't you trust God's plan?

16 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:56:17pm

re: #7 PhillyPretzel

This guy has gone off the deep end.

With today's GOP I'm afraid he is only in the wading pool

17 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:56:21pm

I think from now on we should all refer to him as Sick Rantorum.

18 Lidane  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:56:35pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

He's been off the deep end.

And depending on the polls, he's either the front runner or tied with Romney as the front runner.

WTF GOP. Does voting for a Mormon really scare you that much that Torquemada Jr. is a better alternative?

19 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:57:30pm

Mouth breathing. Ignorant. Moron.

20 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:58:07pm

The issue he addresses is itself not the most telling thing about him, it is how he equates "reason" with "theology".

The former is what one uses to explain the unknown. The latter is what one uses to explain the known.

21 engineer cat  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:58:34pm

or that ricky's peak has less to do with him than the double plus un good ness of newt, mitt, luap, glop, and grzzt

22 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:58:37pm

re: #16 The Hoopster

I don't think the Republican Party is that much crazier than this guy on average.

But this is getting nuts. Are they trying to make Obama's ads for the general?

23 God of Binders with Women  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 12:59:46pm
“because free prenatal testing ends up in more abortions and therefore less care that has to be done because we cull the ranks of the disabled in our society.”

So paying for prenatal testing leads to less abortions?

24 Tigger2005  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:00:20pm

re: #14 erik_t

This man's advisors are literally the stupidest people on earth. How can you let him out in public?

Actually this seems to be a recurring theme with Republican candidates named 'Rick'.

Well, it certainly seems to be working...strictly with the base. It won't work in a general election campaign. Question is, could Rick make the short-attention-span populace forget his up-to-the-nomination insanity? Would he even have the ability to go all politician instead of preacher and present himself as a moderate? And if he does, will he lose the base? Or will they play along with the stealth-theocrat act?

25 erik_t  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:00:44pm

re: #23 Kid A

So paying for prenatal testing leads to less abortions?

Yes, because then you can't afford one. Free-market solution!

/

26 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:01:17pm

re: #23 Kid A
In his warped mind.

27 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:02:31pm

Santorum's plan for prenatal care: Trust in Jesus and cast out Satan.

28 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:03:20pm

I don't understand this wingnut mindset that thinks women only get abortions for the lulz.

29 God of Binders with Women  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:04:11pm
“because free prenatal testing ends up in more abortions and therefore less care that has to be done because we cull the ranks of the disabled in our society.”

Memo to poor women: Screw you!!!

30 celticdragon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:06:25pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

He's not supposed to govern according to the Bible, Rick you dumbass.

Christian revisionists don't see things that way. You see, all of the Founding Fathers were hardcore Calvanist theocrats.

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31 engineer cat  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:06:40pm

Newt Romnetorum Wins GOP Nomination

appalling chimaera promises to eat all liberals savagely and loyally serve the emperor pope of heartland america

32 God of Binders with Women  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:07:01pm
Santorum attacks Obama on prenatal screening

Somewhere, Obama is having a Scotch, laughing his ass off.

33 Interesting Times  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:07:45pm
34 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:08:13pm

re: #28 Look At My Grandbaby!

I don't understand this wingnut mindset that thinks women only get abortions for the lulz.

Well, the women don't do it for the lulz, because as we all know, women have no control over their minds and bodies.

It's the evil doctors, scientists, and libruls that are doing it for the lulz by manipulating the weaker sex into having abortions.
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35 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:08:53pm

Stop getting prenatal screenings because if God wants you to have a severely disabled child who will live in pain his whole life while you go bankrupt providing healthcare (because the GOP sure as fuck won't help), its all part of God's wonderful plan. Take responsibility for God's plan people.

36 docproto48  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:08:57pm

A few people will now know who I am but DAMMMIT as a physician who has practiced the last 25 years with a physical disability, no malpractice suits and no trouble with regulators etc. I TAKE VIOLENT OFFENSE AT SANTORUMS COMMENTS

37 celticdragon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:08:59pm

re: #29 Kid A

Memo to poor all women: Screw you!!! Get back in the kitchen beeyotchess and fix me a sammich!!!

Minor correction added.

38 Tigger2005  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:09:16pm

re: #32 Kid A

Here's the headline of this story:

Somewhere, President Obama is having a Scotch thinking about redecorating the Oval Office after he wins in November.

Obama's having his Scotch IN the Oval Office.

39 Tigger2005  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:10:43pm

The 18th century seems to be about where Santorum wants us to be. In his mind, everything went downhill from there.

40 Tigger2005  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:11:13pm

Actually, you might have to go back to the 17th century at least.

41 celticdragon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:11:20pm

re: #35 Kragar

Stop getting prenatal screenings because if God wants you to have a severely disabled child who will live in pain his whole life while you go bankrupt providing healthcare (because the GOP sure as fuck won't help), its all part of God's wonderful plan. Take responsibility for God's plan people.

Also remember:

Capitalism is supposed to have winners and losers, so if you go broke with a profoundly disabled child, then God probably hates you anyway and you deserved to be a loser.

42 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:11:46pm

Can we put Rick Santorum back in the box? Please? Please mommy? He's scaring me!

//

43 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:12:41pm

re: #42 Gus

Can we put Rick Santorum back in the box? Please? Please mommy? He's scaring me!

//

The GOP let him out of Pennsylvania, and can't get him back in...
/

44 docproto48  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:12:47pm

re: #39 Tigger2005

The 18th century seems to be about where Santorum wants us to be. In his mind, everything went downhill from there.

I'm sure he believes God speaks and only understands 1500s english

45 erik_t  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:12:49pm

re: #42 Gus

Can we put Rick Santorum back in the box? Please? Please mommy? He's scaring me!

//

Is 'stupid' a two-minute minor or a five-minute major?

46 Tigger2005  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:13:05pm

re: #42 Gus

Can we put Rick Santorum back in the box? Please? Please mommy? He's scaring me!

//

Bring out the creepy looking ventriloquist dummy instead, Mommy, the one whose eyes seem to follow you. He's much less scary!

47 jaunte  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:13:07pm

re: #42 Gus

He hasn't finished fighting the Thirty Years phony theology war yet.

48 Interesting Times  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:13:27pm
49 celticdragon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:13:51pm

re: #39 Tigger2005

The 18th century seems to be about where Santorum wants us to be. In his mind, everything went downhill from there.

True. Conservative Catholics of his mindset are utterly hostile to The Enlightenment.

I was astonished to talk to Catholics who believe that rational thought is what went wrong with western civilization.

50 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:13:55pm

re: #39 Tigger2005

The 18th century seems to be about where Santorum wants us to be. In his mind, everything went downhill from there.

Ever since the kids left the coal mines; ever since the women got the vote; ever since the blacks blahs started walking around wherever they felt like. One nightmare after the next.

51 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:14:09pm

re: #48 Interesting Times

What about ribs?

52 celticdragon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:14:58pm

re: #42 Gus

Can we put Rick Santorum back in the box? Please? Please mommy? He's scaring me!

//

He's like the evil jack-in-the-box from Poltergeist.

53 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:17:03pm

re: #51 Gus

What about ribs?

Sticky with a couple of slices of bread.

54 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:17:13pm

re: #52 celticdragon

He's like the evil jack-in-the-box from Poltergeist.

Theater of the macabre. All Santorum needs is someone playing the accordion in the background while he speaks.

55 jaunte  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:17:45pm

@FrankConniff
More Clueless Than Romney, More Creepy Than Gingrich,
More Crazy Than Paul - SANTORUM 2012!

56 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:17:49pm

re: #45 erik_t

Is 'stupid' a two-minute minor or a five-minute major?

Can I hope for a political career misconduct?

57 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:18:16pm

re: #54 Gus
An organ instead of an accordion

58 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:19:51pm

This is the 21st century? Could've fooled me.

59 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:20:23pm

re: #57 PhillyPretzel

An organ instead of an accordion

Anyone check to see if Lon Chaney's body is still in his grave. Ya never know we are talking Rick Santorum here.

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60 Tigger2005  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:20:41pm

re: #49 celticdragon

True. Conservative Catholics of his mindset are utterly hostile to The Enlightenment.

I was astonished to talk to Catholics who believe that rational thought is what went wrong with western civilization.

See...if we had just remained a bunch of devout Catholics under the control of Rome, God would have protected Europe forever against invasion as a white Catholic Christian paradise on Earth. And from this shining bastion of piety men in sandals would have gone forth to convert the heathen. We didn't need no steenking science!

61 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:21:17pm

re: #58 Slumbering Behemoth

This is the 21st century? Could've fooled me.

THATS IT! They're reversing the numbers! It all fits now!

62 God of Binders with Women  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:22:35pm

Why does Rick Santorum hate women?

63 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:23:15pm

Forget prenatal care, we need to stop teaching women how to read.
/

64 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:23:19pm

re: #61 Kragar

THATS IT! They're reversing the numbers! It all fits now!

This book was popular reading at my school:

[Link: books.google.com...]

65 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:23:22pm

Pennsylvania... Transylvania... Pennsylvania... Transylvania...

Hmmm.

66 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:23:33pm

OT Is anyone else have script running problems? Almost any button I hit in these threads and I get a script running message.

67 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:23:36pm

You *know* That Mittens' people are asking "How the hell is this happening? We've got all the money in the world!"

68 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:23:50pm

re: #63 Slumbering Behemoth

Forget prenatal care, we need to stop teaching women how to read.
/

Eureka! That's it!

69 celticdragon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:24:00pm

re: #60 Tigger2005

See...if we had just remained a bunch of devout Catholics under the control of Rome, God would have protected Europe forever against invasion as a white Catholic Christian paradise on Earth. And from this shining bastion of piety men in sandals would have gone forth to convert the heathen. We didn't need no steenking science!

I certainly do not want to paint with an over-large brush here. Most Catholics believe nothing of the sort. I have encountered some like Santorum who are inimical to modernity and enlightenment philosophy, however, and they are (very) dangerous if allowed near the controls and levers of power.

70 Interesting Times  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:24:49pm

re: #67 austin_blue

You *know* That Mittens' people are asking "How the hell is this happening? We've got all the money in the world!"

Proving that, while you can sell your soul for money, buying it back is not an option.

71 Lidane  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:24:53pm

re: #62 Kid A

Why does Rick Santorum hate women?

He doesn't hate women! The GOP is a pro-woman party!

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72 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:25:08pm

re: #63 Slumbering Behemoth
I am not giving up my books, especially my Science Fiction.

73 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:25:35pm

Think about it. Everything that Santorum talks about seems to revolve around death. I wonder where he got that from... hmmmm.

74 Coracle  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:26:22pm

The single difference between Santorum and a radical Islamist is the language of the book he wants to cram down everyone's throats.

75 nines09  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:26:29pm

I thought Rick was crazy, but boy oh boy,was I wrong. He's not crazy, he's freaking insane. The only thing more insane are the people buying into this. I hope he doesn't blow the nomination, I want him to win. I really want him to win.

76 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:26:38pm

re: #73 Gus

Think about it. Everything that Santorum talks about seems to revolve around death. I wonder where he got that from... hmmm.

Revised that.

77 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:26:52pm

re: #69 celticdragon

I certainly do not want to paint with an over-large brush here. Most Catholics believe nothing of the sort. I have encountered some like Santorum who are inimical to modernity and enlightenment philosophy, however, and they are (very) dangerous if allowed near the controls and levers of power.

You are correct, but they were the majority at my school. (Exception: We were the men in sandals, but "white" wasn't part of the formula. RC is for all shades and colors.)

78 nines09  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:27:36pm

re: #66 PhillyPretzel

You must be using IE. Go to Google Chrome and it goes away.

79 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:27:59pm

Milton Aloysius Santorum

80 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:28:37pm

re: #66 PhillyPretzel

OT Is anyone else have script running problems? Almost any button I hit in these threads and I get a script running message.

IE8 suckage.

81 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:28:58pm

Sorry. I just can't rationalize or process this nut anymore. I'm only left with ridicule which is all this nut deserves.

82 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:29:57pm

Rick Santorum denies questioning Obama's faith

Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum on Sunday denied questioning President Obama's Christian faith but said the president has an environmental belief "that elevates the Earth above man."

Santorum was quoted Saturday as telling an audience in Ohio that although he accepts the president’s Christianity, he believes Obama adheres to "some phony theology. Not a theology based on the Bible. A different theology."

Asked to explain on the CBS program "Face the Nation," Santorum framed the issue as a disagreement over global warming and how "radical environmentalists" care for the Earth.

Dick, if the earth goes, mankind goes with it, you dumb ignorant fuck.

83 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:30:12pm

re: #81 Gus

...snip I'm only left with ridicule which is all this nut deserves.

Not seeing a problem there.

84 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:31:08pm

re: #62 Kid A

Hey dude, check this out.

Looks like you got a little rent free headspace. Congrats.

85 Interesting Times  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:31:12pm

re: #82 Kragar

Rick Santorum denies questioning Obama's faith

Dick, if the earth goes, mankind goes with it, you dumb ignorant fuck.

No, because Teh Troo Believers™ will be raptured. Derp.

86 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:32:22pm

re: #81 Gus

Sorry. I just can't rationalize or process this nut anymore. I'm only left with ridicule which is all this nut deserves.

Agreed, but the fact is, it's working for him. That's the shocking bit.

Brokered convention, anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

87 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:33:42pm

re: #86 austin_blue

Agreed, but the fact is, it's working for him. That's the shocking bit.

Brokered convention, anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Youtube Video
88 erik_t  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:34:10pm

re: #56 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Can I hope for a political career misconduct?

Two minutes for embellishment: applicable outside of hockey.

Actually, that would be a pretty fantastic addition for the next three trillion GOP debates. I wouldn't have to mute the TV!

/

89 God of Binders with Women  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:34:13pm

re: #84 Slumbering Behemoth

Hey dude, check this out.

Looks like you got a little rent free headspace. Congrats.

That is awesome!!! Thanks so much for the notice. I left him this comment:

You can thank me some other time for all the traffic you received because of me. I’m the “liberal” that exposed your pea-brained logic for all the world to see.

Enjoy your Sunday!

-Kid A

90 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:34:59pm

re: #82 Kragar

Rick Santorum denies questioning Obama's faith

Dick, if the earth goes, mankind goes with it, you dumb ignorant fuck.

Oh, trust me, I think that is exactly his aim and desire; I wouldn't be shocked if Santorum and his fellow Dominionist RWNJs want the Earth to be reduced to a stripped, burned-out husk. Humanity scrambling and fighting for dwindling natural resources might bring about Armageddon (with its resulting Rapture) they so crave; it's enough to make my brain hurt.

91 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:35:05pm

re: #89 Kid A

*High Five*

92 jaunte  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:35:25pm

re: #81 Gus

Caution: this equipment also used to process nuts.

93 erik_t  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:35:57pm

re: #92 jaunte

Caution: this equipment also used to process nuts.

So you're saying I'm allergic to the Republican Party? Sounds about right.

94 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:36:52pm

re: #92 jaunte

Caution: this equipment also used to process nuts.

Warning: may contain one or more varieties of tree nuts.

95 Petero1818  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:37:13pm

Yes Rick, the incredible reduction in infant mortality rates is really a marker of how we have really gone wrong as a civilization. Obviously God would rather have 10% of all infants die at at childbirth.

96 jaunte  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:37:46pm

Related, via a William Gibson tweet:

[Link: www.thelocal.de...]
"'best English gift to German language'"

97 HappyWarrior  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:39:29pm

Has anyone ever told Rick he's kind of a downer? I mean people like him have been saying we're on the road to ruin for years now and guess what we persevere through it all.

98 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:40:39pm

re: #95 Petero1818

Yes Rick, the incredible reduction in infant mortality rates is really a marker of how we have really gone wrong as a civilization. Obviously God would rather have 10% of all infants die at at childbirth.

Not to mention the mothers. The Arthurian RPG I play in has childbirth tables for wives having children since it is a multi-generational game. It's deadly, and this represents the upper class having children.

99 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:41:37pm

Bill Maher: Rick Santorum ‘Thinks Life Begins At Erection’

100 Petero1818  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:42:41pm

re: #98 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Not to mention the mothers. The Arthurian RPG I play in has childbirth tables for wives having children since it is a multi-generational game. It's deadly, and this represents the upper class having children.

I would just assume that Rick actually doesn't give a fuck about women that are of course merely vessels for a fetus. But your point is duly noted.

101 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:43:03pm

re: #96 jaunte

Related, via a William Gibson tweet:

[Link: www.thelocal.de...]
"'best English gift to German language'"

It's much easier to pronounce than "Scheißesturm"

102 freetoken  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:43:37pm

Last night I go to sleep in the 21st century.

This morning I wake up in the 12th century.

What happened?

103 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:44:00pm

re: #102 freetoken

Last night I go to sleep in the 21st century.

This morning I wake up in the 12th century.

What happened?

Don't look at me...

104 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:44:39pm

re: #74 Coracle

The single difference between Santorum and a radical Islamist is the language of the book he wants to cram down everyone's throats.

True that. I guess I'll just repost what I posted on Thanos' page a little while ago:

What an unregenerate miscreant. Why not forgo all medical prenatal care and instead just fervently pray that everything will be okay? If that doesn't work, then they can always have someone come over and lay hands on women's bellies to cast out the "demons" that are causing problems.

The Islamists overseas must be cheering him on and laughing their asses off at us for having someone like him as the front-runner of a major political party.

105 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:44:44pm

re: #86 austin_blue

Agreed, but the fact is, it's working for him. That's the shocking bit.

Brokered convention, anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Considering the current abnormal state of the Republican Party I couldn't even guess if they would have a brokered convention. Otherwise, yes, right now about 42 percent of voting aged adults in America have their heads up their ass.

106 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:44:58pm

re: #102 freetoken

It's starting to get kind of depressing.

107 jaunte  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:45:15pm

re: #89 Kid A

I like the 'threat' at the end:

Liberals, you are trying to force everyone to view reality through your lens that views everything as potential hate. If you’re going to force us to view the world this way, then expect more entries similar to this. Only next time, expect me/us to mean it.

Next time I'll mean it!!1!!

108 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:45:49pm

re: #106 Slumbering Behemoth

It's starting to get kind of depressing.

Our only hope is salvation.

//

109 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:46:54pm

re: #108 Gus

Our only hope is salvation.

//

I'm thinking a 2.4×1032 Watt laser.

110 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:47:16pm

re: #107 jaunte

Here a comment he left on the very argle bargle KidA linked...

I pity the girls of liberal fathers. Their fathers tell them..

1. Honey you can’t have a gun to protect yourself against a rapist. You must conceive the rapists baby.

I had no idea that Rick Santorum was a "liberal father". Go figure.

111 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:48:11pm

re: #108 Gus

I thought it was Obi-Wan Kenobi. Man, we are so screwed.

112 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:50:45pm

re: #107 jaunte

I like the 'threat' at the end:

Next time I'll mean it!!1!!

Heh.

"I didn't mean to sound like a brain dead, logic impaired moron in that last piece of tortured reason that I wrote, but next time I will"!

113 God of Binders with Women  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:52:10pm

re: #112 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh.

"I didn't mean to sound like a brain dead, logic impaired moron in that last piece of tortured reason that I wrote, but next time I will"!

"And I'll have you tearing your hair out, strand by strand, damn it!! Oh, and I really, really mean it!!!"

114 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:52:30pm

Oh, and what the hell...

KidA's page that started it all, in case any of you missed it.

115 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:53:03pm

Here's Santorum from the same interview with Caffeinated Thoughts:

Just like we have certifying organizations that accredit a college, we'll have certifying organizations that will accredit conservative professors. If you are to be eligible for federal funds, you'll have to provide an equal number of conservative professors as liberal professors.

-Rick Santorum

Youtube Video
116 erik_t  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:54:27pm

re: #115 goddamnedfrank

Here's Santorum from the same interview with Caffeinated Thoughts:

[Video]

The federal government will accredit the political stances of your professors. But it'll do it small-ly.

117 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:54:43pm

re: #115 goddamnedfrank

FAIRNESS DOCTRINE!!!

118 A Mom Anon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:55:25pm

Oh FFS. Anyone who obviously hopes and wishes for the suffering of his/her fellow Americans has no business in government period. All of this horseshit is nothing more than that,a wish and want for people to hurt. It's all about the punishment with these ass berets. I have no idea how in the hell you can stand up and say you love America,but so blatantly and obviously hate the American people.

And yes,I take this personally. It's destroyed my family,my parents have missed their grandchildren's growing up because their church and their politics have demonized my family and I. I'm tired of turning on the radio here and hearing how liberals don't work or care for their kids,or love their country. Bullshit. I gave up a career to raise a child with autism and I have paid for that,big time.My husband worked his ass off so we could afford for me to be here full time,and lazy isn't us.Nor is dirty or smelly or un-American,I am sick of this crap. It's torn my marriage up,and I have seen my child bullied by children raised by so called christians,to the point he wished he was never born. Fuck these assholes with rusty farm implements. You don't hire people to run the government who hate it and hate the people they are supposed to govern. damn it this is fucking depressing.

Sorry for the rant.

119 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:56:44pm

re: #114 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh, and what the hell...

KidA's page that started it all, in case any of you missed it.

Heh, nutter.

120 Petero1818  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:57:17pm

So apparently, Rick who believes life begins at conception and perhaps even before, also believes that it is ok to be negligent towards that life and the life of the mother by not using available pre natal screening. This is the confused rationalization that results from dogmatic approach to single issue politics. It defies all rational though. It is only a matter of time before Rick argues that Doctors and all modern medicine should be banned because having doctors leads of course to some doctors performing abortions. Moreover, since the only real way to stop abortions is to stop pregnancy, and the only way to stop pregnancy is to stop intercourse, and lets face it, the only way to stop men from wanting to fuck women is to get rid of women, it follows that within a few months Rick will be calling for a ban on women living amongst us.

121 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:58:43pm

My brain is reaching its limit trying to process this socon bullshit.

122 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:00:15pm

re: #121 Somalia: Libertarian Paradise

My brain is reaching its limit trying to process this socon bullshit.

Mine blue-screened the other day trying to keep arguing the whole contraceptive business with a couple of wingnuts. I had to reboot with a few hours of MST3K.

123 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:00:48pm

re: #120 Petero1818

So apparently, Rick who believes life begins at conception and perhaps even before, also believes that it is ok to be negligent towards that life and the life of the mother by not using available pre natal screening.

Well, in fairness to Rick (gawd, I can't believe I just typed that), he's not against pre-natal screening, he's just against the idea of insurance companies paying for it.

124 jaunte  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:00:53pm

re: #121 Somalia: Libertarian Paradise

Handy guide:

Manorialism

was characterized by the vesting of legal and economic power in a Lord of the Manor, supported economically from his own direct landholding in a manor (sometimes called a fief), and from the obligatory contributions of a legally subject part of the peasant population under the jurisdiction of himself and his manorial court. These obligations could be payable in several ways, in labor (the French term corvée is conventionally applied), in kind, or, on rare occasions, in coin.

125 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:01:38pm

re: #122 Targetpractice

Mine blue-screened the other day trying to keep arguing the whole contraceptive business with a couple of wingnuts. I had to reboot with a few hours of MST3K.

Threshold makes more sense than what I'm hearing from Rick.

126 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:01:54pm

re: #123 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, in fairness to Rick (gawd, I can't believe I just typed that), he's not against pre-natal screening, he's just against the idea of insurance companies paying for it.

Correction, he's against the idea now that it's part of "Obamacare." Before that, I'm sure he didn't give a flying fuck.

127 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:02:09pm

re: #114 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh, and what the hell...

KidA's page that started it all, in case any of you missed it.

That creature needs to be kept far away from women.

128 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:03:01pm

I can't believe I just said that...
Wow.

129 Petero1818  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:03:35pm

re: #123 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, in fairness to Rick (gawd, I can't believe I just typed that), he's not against pre-natal screening, he's just against the idea of insurance companies paying for it.

In other words he is against pre-natal screening for anyone without enough money to pay for it with disposable income. I get it. But it doesn't change the fact that the way its rationalized is in fact absurd. He could not in any way make the argument that he supports pre natal screening, but does not support its inclusion in insurance plans.

130 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:04:34pm

re: #84 Slumbering Behemoth

Hey dude, check this out.

Looks like you got a little rent free headspace. Congrats.

Funny that he's so outraged and screaming about anti-Christian hate speech considering his paranoid views on Islam.

But, hey, what do you expect? After all, Christianity is the One True Religion™. Oh wait, that's Islam...no, hang on it's Judaism...or is it Hinduism? Zoroatrianism? Jainism? Paganism?

To repeat my profile quote for the umpteenth time:

The world is divided into people who think they are right.
—Anonymous

And this guy, like Santorum, knows he is right—he has proof right there in his holy book, and it's 100% confirmed by the belief he feels in his heart. Why do you people refuse to accept his internal reality as your own??

131 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:05:51pm

re: #124 jaunte

Handy guide:

Manorialism

Yep. Lord for your physical protection. Priest and church for your spiritual protection. And your job is to labor in your place in order to keep everyone well-fed and well-clothed. And the bosses get first choice.

132 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:06:12pm

re: #129 Petero1818

In other words he is against pre-natal screening for anyone without enough money to pay for it with disposable income. I get it. But it doesn't change the fact that the way its rationalized is in fact absurd. He could not in any way make the argument that he supports pre natal screening, but does not support its inclusion in insurance plans.

Rick basically endorses catastrophic health insurance being the norm, thinking that if all the insurance companies cover you for is major "unanticipated" costs, then premiums will be low and thus you can afford to pay for everything out of pocket with all that extra money in your pocket.

Let's all take a second to remember the last time that our insurance company lowered premiums for any reason. Couldn't remember one? Yeah, neither could I, but hey, if we have faith...

133 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:07:22pm

re: #130 CuriousLurker

But, hey, what do you expect? After all, Christianity is the One True Religion™. Oh wait, that's Islam...no, hang on it's Judaism...or is it Hinduism? Zoroatrianism? Jainism? Paganism?

If people want to worship me I won't stop 'em, I'm pretty awesome that way.

Just sayin'.

134 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:10:36pm

re: #133 goddamnedfrank

If people want to worship me I won't stop 'em, I'm pretty awesome that way.

Just sayin'.

goddamnedfrankism? Hmm, the Church of GDF...is has a certain ring to it. //

135 Petero1818  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:12:35pm

re: #133 goddamnedfrank

If people want to worship me I won't stop 'em, I'm pretty awesome that way.

Just sayin'.

I am in the market. What is your position on provision of birth control within insurance plans for any employees you may currently have or will have in the future.

136 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:13:27pm

re: #17 Look At My Grandbaby!

I think from now on we should all refer to him as Sick Rantorum.

Quite Concur.

137 jaunte  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:15:15pm

@DrLearnALot
#ObamaSlogan We live in your century.

138 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:17:12pm

I checked CNN before commenting here, and found a CNN writer's story confirmed the story on CBS. Unusually for me, I left a comment there:

Ah, Geeze! Santorum's just being stupid and fanatical here. In a no small number of cases, prenatal testing is needed. And damn it, but a woman should know if her baby is likely to have Downs Syndrome or other disabilities! Parents need to prepare themselves for what conditions like that mean for their family, if nothing else

(the bolding isn't on the CNN comment)
The comment is under my real name, but I felt it just had to be said.

139 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:17:42pm

re: #123 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, in fairness to Rick (gawd, I can't believe I just typed that), he's not against pre-natal screening, he's just against the idea of insurance companies paying for it.

I don't know about that - he's saying that prenatal testing leads to abortions. If that's true, it would happen whether insurance pays for it or not. Logically, Santorum has to be against all prenatal screenings, because they could lead to abortion.

Of course, he didn't arrive at this opinion logically, so trying to make logical sense of it is kind of pointless, I guess.

140 Lidane  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:18:40pm

Santorum Leads Romney Nationally By 8 Points

Gallup's daily tracking poll has Rick Santorum increasing his lead over Mitt Romney among Republican voters nationally. The latest numbers out Sunday show Santorum ahead of Romney 36% to 28%. That's a one-point increase for Santorum since Saturday.

141 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:19:07pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

I think what he meant to say was "If Obama's fer it, I'm again' it".

142 A Mom Anon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:19:30pm

re: #132 Targetpractice

If he has his way and prenatal care isn't covered,there will be plenty of catastrophic care that needs covering. Its so much more cost effective to have good prenatal care than it is to have a 500K bill for a sick baby. Come on,how could you not know that?

You know,I wonder how many of these guys even know what an ovary or uterus is,where it is located and what those organs actually do. What a pap smear is,what estrogen or progesterone is/does. What happens during the menstrual cycle. Hell,I'd bet they don't even know how their own bodies actually work,let alone a woman's.

143 jaunte  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:21:12pm

peter manseau @petermanseau
Santorum accuses Obama of “a phony theology not based on the Bible." You know what else isn't based on the Bible? Religious freedom.

144 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:21:58pm

re: #141 Slumbering Behemoth

I think what he meant to say was "If Obama's fer it, I'm again' it".

And, by extension, "the *DONG* is near!"

145 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:22:02pm

re: #130 CuriousLurker

I like this bit...

LittleGreenFootballs.com is allowing a user to perpetuate hateful anti-Christian expression on their website.

Oh noes! :clings tin foil bible:

146 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:22:33pm

So instead of educating themselves about prenatal care the wingnuts in this matter, who are primarily men, are going to be educated by either what Santorum tells them or what they read on Hot Air or Free Republic or whatever other wingnut blog is out there. You can even learn quite a bit here about prenatal care from the March of Dimes. Not in between getting sound bites from fellow wingnuts in between slugs of whiskey.

"This is true right?" What kind of question is that for a so called journalist.

147 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:23:16pm

re: #142 A Mom Anon

Menstrual cramps that is a figment of your imagination.

148 The Yankee  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:23:41pm

Did Ron Paul win Maine, I heard that Maine might of change who won the state.

149 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:24:10pm

re: #123 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, in fairness to Rick (gawd, I can't believe I just typed that), he's not against pre-natal screening, he's just against the idea of insurance companies paying for it.

Right now. How many times have you heard researchok say that if a pathology goes untreated it will escalate? Extreme fundamentalism is not the sign of a healthy emotional state. I've lived with it, so I know.

150 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:25:16pm

re: #146 Gus

So instead of educating themselves about prenatal care the wingnuts in this matter, who are primarily men, are going to be educated by either what Santorum tells them or what they read on Hot Air or Free Republic or whatever other wingnut blog is out there. You can even learn quite a bit here about prenatal care from the March of Dimes. Not in between getting sound bite from fellow wingnuts in between slugs of whiskey.

"This is true right?" What kind of question is that for a so called journalist.

What you didn't see was Weigel's jaw dropping open from the stunning stupidity of Santorum's remarks.

I've objected and continue to object to making Rick Santorum's surname into a term from something nasty, but I will say that his remarks on prenatal care are in fact frothy shit.

151 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:25:28pm

re: #107 jaunte

I like the 'threat' at the end:

Next time I'll mean it!!1!!

I'll totally write to the Limbaugh Letter!

152 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:25:45pm

re: #148 The Yankee

Did Ron Paul win Maine, I heard that Maine might of change who won the state.

You heard wrong. Romney won, and that will not change.

153 BongCrodny  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:27:22pm

re: #151 windupbird is in the gravity well

I'll totally write to the Limbaugh Letter!

Will it be sternly worded?

154 Lidane  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:27:38pm

Haven't read this yet, but the headline caught my attention:

How Rick Santorum Ripped Off American Veterans

155 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:27:43pm

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

What you didn't see was Weigel's jaw dropping open from the stunning stupidity of Santorum's remarks.

I've objected and continue to object to making Rick Santorum's surname into a term from something nasty, but I will say that his remarks on prenatal care are in fact frothy shit.

I don't know I can't figure him out most of the time.

156 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:29:47pm

Building and burning strawmen faster than the speed of light must be some kind of super power...

admin says:
February 19, 2012 at 4:54 pm

So it’s pea-brained logic to say a woman has a right to own something that can stop a rapist?

It’s pea-brained logic to say a girl should be able to have access to a good school?

It’s pea-brained logic to tell a girl she isn’t an animal and can control all her instincts?

It’s pea-brained logic to say to a girl she is intrinsically valuable and has the right to exist?

See this is what liberals do everyone. They sit in their little snarky gangs together, calling conservatives stupid, illogical, and pea-brained. But they never actually spell out how the assertions made are pea-brained. They assume that stating something is pea-brained, makes it automatically pea-brained.

To me it’s pea-brained to tell a woman she can’t own the one thing that would stop a rapist. But hey, if you’re pro-rapist have at it.

157 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:31:29pm

re: #156 Slumbering Behemoth

Building and burning strawmen faster than the speed of light must be some kind of super power...

Clearly Mr. Admin fails to see the point. The only reason we call people like him pea-brains and don't provide any further details is simply due to the fact that they have have pea-sized brains.

//

158 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:31:32pm

KidA now lives in that dude's head, rent free. Well done.

159 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:32:54pm

re: #148 The Yankee

Did Ron Paul win Maine, I heard that Maine might of change who won the state.

If there was only a way to find out ,, a way to search via a device, perhaps, that would give real time and historic information on just about any subject/ question one would have !!!

hmmm,,,,,

///

160 jaunte  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:32:56pm

re: #156 Slumbering Behemoth

I don't think he really means it yet.

161 Lidane  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:33:21pm

re: #106 Slumbering Behemoth

It's starting to get kind of depressing.

Image: hopeless-gop.gif

162 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:34:14pm

re: #146 Gus

"This is true right?" What kind of question is that for a so called journalist.

Eh, it's Weigel. He can't go 5 seconds without being sarcastic. It's entertaining sometimes but it has a tendency to make you wonder if he's ever serious or if you're just missing the joke.

163 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:34:28pm

re: #154 Lidane

Haven't read this yet, but the headline caught my attention:

How Rick Santorum Ripped Off American Veterans

The article argues Rick Santorum used an amendment to 1999's Defense Authorization Act to require the Armed Forces Retirement Home sell a parcel of land to the neighboring Catholic University of America and the sale brought in less than the land value.

Such arguments are at times in error, so I'll need confirmation from a less biased source than Mother Jones to believe it.

164 ibob  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:34:34pm

This is absolutely crazy. Does Santorum not realise that antenatal testing also includes blood work( blood type--Rh factor), ultrasounds for both dating purposes and screening for abnormalities?

I don't miss the days of letting women go 3 weeks past the due date because we were not reasonably sure about how far along the patient was without early ultrasounds. I don't miss not knowing about twins, babies that are too small or too big, or birth defects that found only after the baby is born?

I do miss being able to tell parents "it's a boy" or "it's a girl" however.

165 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:34:36pm

re: #156 Slumbering Behemoth

Building and burning strawmen faster than the speed of light must be some kind of super power...

The man is a fucking idiot.

166 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:36:00pm

re: #156 Slumbering Behemoth

Building and burning strawmen faster than the speed of light must be some kind of super power...

But it is in my opinion an error to not allow a women the firearm needed to defend herself, if that is what the admin is referring to.

167 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:36:24pm

re: #154 Lidane

Haven't read this yet, but the headline caught my attention:

How Rick Santorum Ripped Off American Veterans

Catholic University: Hell of a land deal

Vets: Screwed, blued, and tattooed.

168 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:36:28pm

re: #142 A Mom Anon

If he has his way and prenatal care isn't covered,there will be plenty of catastrophic care that needs covering. Its so much more cost effective to have good prenatal care than it is to have a 500K bill for a sick baby. Come on,how could you not know that?

You know,I wonder how many of these guys even know what an ovary or uterus is,where it is located and what those organs actually do. What a pap smear is,what estrogen or progesterone is/does. What happens during the menstrual cycle. Hell,I'd bet they don't even know how their own bodies actually work,let alone a woman's.

As noted above, Rick's biggest deal against prenatal care is one I've heard time and again from "pro-lifers," that such care, particularly ultrasound, motivates women to abort children that might otherwise be born with physical problems or deformities, because they "deserve to live." That choosing which babies will and won't be born amounts to "eugenics."

169 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:36:47pm

re: #165 Kragar

The man is a fucking idiot.

Dear Gravel! I hope not. It could reproduce.

170 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:37:01pm

re: #156 Slumbering Behemoth

Building and burning strawmen faster than the speed of light must be some kind of super power...

I never quite figured out what he was referring to when he was saying "something that can stop a rapist" becuase there was too much derpitude. A gun? Are guns illegal now? And anyway a gun only work if you have enough time to realize what's happening, pull out the gun, and get off an accurate shot.

Then again, he could've been talking about a chastity belt. It wouldn't surprise me. I wonder if Santorum would be in favor of insurance covering those? I'll betcha $10K of Romney's money that he would.

171 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:37:18pm

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

But it is in my opinion an error to not allow a women the firearm needed to defend herself, if that is what the admin is referring to.

The new GOP refers to me as a Liberal, but I have no problem at all with women owning guns and using them in self defense.

WTF is this turd talking about?

172 blueraven  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:37:56pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

I don't know about that - he's saying that prenatal testing leads to abortions. If that's true, it would happen whether insurance pays for it or not. Logically, Santorum has to be against all prenatal screenings, because they could lead to abortion.

Of course, he didn't arrive at this opinion logically, so trying to make logical sense of it is kind of pointless, I guess.

He is clueless. My first pregnancy came about when I was almost 35. It was recommended that I have an amniocentesis to check for chromosome abnormality. I made the appointment, but a few days before the procedure I canceled. I just couldn't do it. I had waited a long time to get pregnant and figured it would be my last chance. Knowing that the procedure had a small percentage of causing miscarriage, I wasn't willing to risk it. My husband and I decided we could handle whatever came along.

My daughter was born perfect and a bit over two years later we had a perfect son. But with my son I did have the procedure as I was almost 38. The decisions are agonizing. I had a choice and that's the bottom line.

173 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:38:00pm

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

But it is in my opinion an error to not allow a women the firearm needed to defend herself, if that is what the admin is referring to.

Oh, I agree, but you're not seeing the big picture where this dork is concerned. Start here.

174 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:38:10pm

re: #168 Targetpractice

As noted above, Rick's biggest deal against prenatal care is one I've heard time and again from "pro-lifers," that such care, particularly ultrasound, motivates women to abort children that might otherwise be born with physical problems or deformities, because they "deserve to live." That choosing which babies will and won't be born amounts to "eugenics."

Then how do they argue for prenatal ultrasounds prior to abortions? Or does the illogic of their position escape them?

175 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:38:30pm

re: #170 CuriousLurker

I never quite figured out what he was referring to when he was saying "something that can stop a rapist" becuase there was too much derpitude. A gun? Are guns illegal now? And anyway a gun only work if you have enough time to realize what's happening, pull out the gun, and get off an accurate shot.

Then again, he could've been talking about a chastity belt. It wouldn't surprise me. I wonder if Santorum would be in favor of insurance covering those? I'll betcha $10K of Romney's money that he would.

Why not get these belts and require them to be put on males?

Since every sperm is now sacred a greater number will be saved if we control men rather than women.
//

176 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:39:48pm

re: #174 Dark_Falcon

Then how do they argue for prenatal ultrasounds prior to abortions? Or does the illogic of their position escape them?

Because what is "good" for women and the fetus is not the goal.

177 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:39:50pm

re: #175 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Why not get these belts and require them to be put on males?

Since every sperm is now sacred a greater number will be saved if we control men rather than women.
//

Now there's an idea!

178 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:40:04pm

re: #174 Dark_Falcon

Then how do they argue for prenatal ultrasounds prior to abortions? Or does the illogic of their position escape them?

They see it as a small concession to make if they can "shame" the woman into keeping the child.

179 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:40:13pm

re: #173 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh, I agree, but you're not seeing the big picture where this dork is concerned. Start here.

I see what he's trying to say, but I don't really want to engage that post. I'm not sure I could say what I want to say without saying it wrong and getting pounded.

180 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:41:40pm

re: #178 Targetpractice

They see it as a small concession to make if they can "shame" the woman into keeping the child.

Lord, what fools these wingnuts be!

181 jaunte  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:41:59pm

re: #154 Lidane

Here's the section of the 1999 Defense authorization bill that they're talking about:

SEC. 1043. CLARIFICATION OF LAND CONVEYANCE AUTHORITY, ARMED
FORCES RETIREMENT HOME.
Section 1053 of the National Defense Authorization Act for
Fiscal Year 1997 (Public Law 104–201; 110 Stat. 2650) is amended—
(1) in subsection (a), by striking out ‘‘may convey, by sale
or otherwise,’’ and inserting in lieu thereof ‘‘shall convey by
sale’’; and
(2) by striking out subsection (b) and inserting in lieu
thereof the following new subsection (b):
‘‘(b) MANNER, TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF DISPOSAL.—(1) The
sale under subsection (a) shall be made to a neighboring nonprofit
organization from whose extensive educational and charitable services
the public benefits and has benefited from for more than
100 years, or an entity or entities related to such organization,
and whose substantial investment in the neighborhood is consistent
with the continued existence and purpose of the Armed Forces
Retirement Home.
‘‘(2) As consideration for the real property conveyance under
subsection (a), the purchaser selected under paragraph (1) shall
pay to the United States an amount equal to the fair market
value of the real property at its highest and best economic use,
as determined by the Armed Forces Retirement Home Board, based
on an independent appraisal.’’.

182 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:42:05pm

re: #173 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh, I agree, but you're not seeing the big picture where this dork is concerned. Start here.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

183 Linden Arden  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:42:14pm

Prenatal screenings do lead to more abortions statistically. Doctors who are suspicious of serious abnormalities are more inclined to order them and when confirmed will properly advise on options.

This is a case where Santorum is factually correct and more repugnant because of it. He would prefer that nature take its sometimes disastrous course and jeopardize the health of the mother.

184 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:42:57pm

re: #183 Linden Arden

Prenatal screenings do lead to more abortions statistically. Doctors who are suspicious of serious abnormalities are more inclined to order them and when confirmed will properly advise on options.

This is a case where Santorum is factually correct and more repugnant because of it. He would prefer that nature take its sometimes disastrous course and jeopardize the health of the mother.

"God's will," dontchaknow?

//

185 Lidane  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:43:23pm

re: #174 Dark_Falcon

Then how do they argue for prenatal ultrasounds prior to abortions? Or does the illogic of their position escape them?

Don't you get it? Pre-natal screenings increase abortions, but if we shame the slut into keeping her baby via an invasive ultrasound before the abortion, we still win.

///

186 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:44:14pm

re: #184 Targetpractice

"God's will," dontchaknow?

//

Funny how often God's Will needs the GOP to help it out. I expected more from omnipotence.

187 blueraven  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:44:37pm

re: #183 Linden Arden

Prenatal screenings do lead to more abortions statistically. Doctors who are suspicious of serious abnormalities are more inclined to order them and when confirmed will properly advise on options.

This is a case where Santorum is factually correct and more repugnant because of it. He would prefer that nature take its sometimes disastrous course and jeopardize the health of the mother.

Yes, but often these pregnancies will not go full term anyway.

188 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:44:55pm

This dumb wingnut has now tweeted this link 5 or 6 times:

189 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:46:08pm

re: #185 Lidane

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Still stupid, if only by being utterly tone deaf. Romney should use Santorum's blunder and club him with it in states like Ohio and Illinois. I can't see this stance of Rick's playing well outside of the Deep South.

190 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:46:42pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

Talk about a berserk button...

191 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:47:21pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

This dumb wingnut has now tweeted this link 5 or 6 times:

LittleGreenFootballs.com is allowing a user to perpetuate hateful anti-Christian expression on their website.

Call the WHAA-mbulance.

192 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:47:44pm

re: #186 Kragar

Funny how often God's Will needs the GOP to help it out. I expected more from omnipotence.

"God's will" is largely why I gave up on religion. I refuse to believe that bad shit happens due to the will of a supposedly loving, benevolent diety.

193 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:47:48pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

This dumb wingnut has now tweeted this link 5 or 6 times:

That blue and red background is migraine-inducing.

194 Lidane  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:47:53pm

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

Still stupid, if only by being utterly tone deaf. Romney should use Santorum's blunder and club him with it in states like Ohio and Illinois. I can't see this stance of Rick's playing well outside of the Deep South.

It doesn't play well anywhere. Find me a woman, liberal OR conservative, who would want to do away with prenatal care for pregnant women.

195 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:48:10pm

re: #183 Linden Arden

Prenatal screenings do lead to more abortions statistically. Doctors who are suspicious of serious abnormalities are more inclined to order them and when confirmed will properly advise on options.

This is a case where Santorum is factually correct and more repugnant because of it. He would prefer that nature take its sometimes disastrous course and jeopardize the health of the mother.

Prenatal diagnosis of coarctation of the aorta improves survival and reduces morbidity

Conclusions

Our retrospective review of a small number of cases of coarctation shows that an accurate diagnosis can be made antenatally. An early diagnosis may improve the preoperative condition of infants presenting for surgery and avoid the tragedy of death at home in undiagnosed cases of an eminently treatable condition.

196 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:48:36pm

Whoa, bad color contrast alert!

197 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:48:48pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

This dumb wingnut has now tweeted this link 5 or 6 times:

So we've gone to being accused of "Anti-Muslim hate speech" to "Anti-Christian hate speech."

I guess that counts as progress.

///

198 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:50:13pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

This dumb wingnut has now tweeted this link 5 or 6 times:

Is registration open? If so, we'd better prepare for an invasion.

BTW, when someone has a long nic, it's bumping the <li> for the "Report" button down to the next line (in FF).

199 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:50:38pm

re: #177 CuriousLurker

Now there's an idea!

No!

200 The Yankee  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:51:39pm

re: #171 Kragar

I don't care about any one owning a gun as long as they have no prior records or are insane. But I doubt it is very good at stopping most sexual assaults. Or most crimes in general. Because of the element of surprise that most criminals have on the victims I doubt that the victim would ever get a chance to get the gun.

Now a dog on the other hand is far more useful even a small one that can give you a warning.

201 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:52:17pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

This dumb wingnut has now tweeted this link 5 or 6 times:

Also, why to the shortened links automatically expand? I noticed that the last two times I used them. NBD, I was just wondering if it's something you built in to the system.

202 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:52:29pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

This dumb wingnut has now tweeted this link 5 or 6 times:

I wrote a lengthy rebuttal of one of his points here and it was just ignored.

203 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:52:33pm

It's not that clear cut. Prenatal screening and testing can go in either direction. If someone desires to carry with severe birth defects to term such testing and screening which increase survivability.

204 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:53:56pm

The IHS Minority AIDS Inititative (MAI)

The Indian Health Service (IHS) will implement up-to-date HIV screening CDC recommendations in pilot site(s) and continue to increase prenatal screening across the I/T/U system in addition to its “early warning” system of detecting rapid increases in the rate of HIV infection among prenatal and highest-risk American Indian and Alaska Native (AI/AN) populations. The implementation project will be the first of its kind across any Indian health system facility and attempt to integrate all aspects of the CDC recommendations to include the progressive stance of universal screening. As well, the current and ongoing funding continues to improve the prenatal screening rates in I/T/U and is seen as a critical screening and surveillance tool. Early in 2008, with existing MAI funding, there will also be national recommendations ‘published’ within the I/T/U system to address prenatal screening findings and outcomes from FY06-07 funding. This project is also a collaborative with CDC, utilizing CDC assigned personnel to assist with project implementation.

205 Lidane  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:54:16pm

In other news, the New York Sun has drowned in a sea of derp:

Sarah Palin for the World Bank?

Sarah Palin would make a more credible president of the World Bank than Mrs. Clinton. Laugh not. We understand that no one (leastwise, President Obama) is going to nominate her and she wouldn’t take the job, anyhow. But she’s a radical, pro-growth politician. She understands natural resources policy, she is a leader on energy policy, she knows fishing down to the ground (so to speak), and she came up through a fight against corruption. She is prepared to lead on sound money, as her demarche against the quantitative easing of the Federal Reserve — made before the other politicians woke up to the issue — shows. And feature the rock-star receptions she got in such places as Hong Kong and India. Sarah Palin is exactly the kind of spark-plug one would need at the World Bank — if one needed the World Bank at all.

206 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:54:20pm

Liberals, you are trying to force everyone to view reality through your lens that views everything as potential hate

Its like goldy or bronzy, but its made out of iron.

207 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:55:21pm

re: #204 Gus

The IHS Minority AIDS Inititative (MAI)

Those are just Injuns, not Real Americans!1 We should have wiped their Godless asses out when we had the chance!!1

208 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:55:38pm

re: #203 Gus

It's not that clear cut. Prenatal screening and testing can go in either direction. If someone desires to carry with severe birth defects to term such testing and screening which increase survivability.

There's a lot of tests and procedures that could convince women to pursue abortion that could likewise increase a child's chances of being born relatively healthy. That, ultimately, should be her choice and not the choice of some third party who thinks he's following the will of an "unknowable" diety.

209 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:56:14pm

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

But it is in my opinion an error to not allow a women the firearm needed to defend herself, if that is what the admin is referring to.

Who, pray tell, is denying women these firearms?

That's why it's a strawman. The dude is taking a very small minority view held by radical gun grabbers and assigning it to all pro choice position holders. He's falsely conflating the two positions in an absolutely brazen display of intellectual dishonesty.

210 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:57:10pm

re: #200 The Yankee

I don't care about any one owning a gun as long as they have no prior records or are insane. But I doubt it is very good at stopping most sexual assaults. Or most crimes in general. Because of the element of surprise that most criminals have on the victims I doubt that the victim would ever get a chance to get the gun.

Now a dog on the other hand is far more useful even a small one that can give you a warning.

Hell, even a cat. Sometimes the Chinese food delivery guys come to drop off menus late at night, which they fold & slide under everyone's doors. My elder cat hears it every time and goes on alert, then runs to investigate. (The other cat, being more cautious, follows from a distance, heh.)

211 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:57:17pm

I'll assume I made my point. Basically what Rick Santorum is presenting is a Ron Paul or Randian view of medicine. Perhaps even worse and something close to "see no evil, speak no evil, and hear no evil" and God will mysteriously guide your child to health and mortality. This is never the case. I conclude that being against prenatal screening or testing is not only an anti-science stance but it is anti-life for both the child and the mother.

212 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:58:53pm

re: #205 Lidane

In other news, the New York Sun has drowned in a sea of derp:

Sarah Palin for the World Bank?

I'm scrolling, prob a thread behind. And I see this. Holy shit. Great laugh, but stomach feels weird. Someone wrote that.

213 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:59:02pm

re: #205 Lidane

In other news, the New York Sun has drowned in a sea of derp:

Sarah Palin for the World Bank?

Doesn't matter that she's unqualified for the job or has less than a full term as a governor under her belt, by God, she can spew wonderfully sounding word salads from a teleprompter and that's more than enough to qualify for the job!

///

Anybody needs me, I'll be praying the Mayans were right about December.

214 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:59:18pm

re: #209 goddamnedfrank

Who, pray tell, is denying women these firearms?

That's why it's a strawman. The dude is taking a very small minority view held by radical gun grabbers and assigning it to all pro choice position holders. He's falsely conflating the two positions in an absolutely brazen display of intellectual dishonesty.

Likely true. I'm not going to defend him, since the piece was a DERP.

215 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 2:59:37pm

re: #210 CuriousLurker

Hell, even a cat. Sometimes the Chinese food delivery guys come to drop off menus late at night, which they fold & slide under everyone's doors. My elder cat hears it every time and goes on alert, then runs to investigate. (The other cat, being more cautious, follows from a distance, heh.)

You sure the guy is just dropping off menus ,,, or searching for cats!?!?!

//

just sayin'!!!!

216 jaunte  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:00:23pm

re: #205 Lidane

It's a bad sign when the editorialist has to say "laugh not."

217 aagcobb  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:00:24pm

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

But it is in my opinion an error to not allow a women the firearm needed to defend herself, if that is what the admin is referring to.

And we all know Obama sponsored that "Women are barred from owning firearms Act."/

218 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:00:46pm

re: #209 goddamnedfrank

Who, pray tell, is denying women these firearms?

That's why it's a strawman. The dude is taking a very small minority view held by radical gun grabbers and assigning it to all pro choice position holders. He's falsely conflating the two positions in an absolutely brazen display of intellectual dishonesty.

It's a horribly irresponsible idea to suggest to women that guns will prevent rape in all, or even most, cases. The opportunity to pull a gun for defence can be circumvented through the attacker being a bit sneakier and using misdirection. If women feel the gun makes them invulnerable to rape they're going to put themselves in situations where their real best weapon, their brain, is only half engaged.

219 The Yankee  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:01:31pm

re: #210 CuriousLurker

Hell, even a cat. Sometimes the Chinese food delivery guys come to drop off menus late at night, which they fold & slide under everyone's doors. My elder cat hears it every time and goes on alert, then runs to investigate. (The other cat, being more cautious, follows from a distance, heh.)

Yea and there are stories of cats saving the family by warning them of fire. I don't think a gun is any good with fires.

220 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:01:34pm

re: #205 Lidane

In other news, the New York Sun has drowned in a sea of derp:

Sarah Palin for the World Bank?

The stupid! It burns!

221 ibob  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:01:34pm

Prenatal care and antenatal testing are the reasons the majority of women in this country can expect to take home a healthy baby. Do any of the crazies expect most women and their families to go back back to the way it used to be with all the stillborns or neonatal deaths? Do they really want to go back to the days when one out of four women died from complications of pregnancy? It wouldn't take to go back there- just stop prenatal care and antenatal testing.

Sorry, about the rant. It is just that I see how close we still come to these things every week if it wasn't for modern obstetrics. I just don't usually tell patients that they or their babies would have died if they had lived less than a 100 years ago or lived in a third world country today.

222 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:01:49pm

re: #218 SH1T My Conscience Says

It's a horribly irresponsible idea to suggest to women that guns will prevent rape in all, or even most, cases. The opportunity to pull a gun for defence can be circumvented through the attacker being a bit sneakier and using misdirection. If women feel the gun makes them invulnerable to rape they're going to put themselves in situations where their real best weapon, their brain, is only half engaged.

The one size fits all argument. "All you need is a gun." See! Problem solved.

223 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:02:06pm

re: #215 sattv4u2

You sure the guy is juts dropping off menus ,,, or searching for cats!?!?!

//

just sayin'!!!

ZOMG, no wonder they're so wary! //

224 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:02:23pm

re: #217 SantorumSurging

And we all know Obama sponsored that "Women are barred from owning firearms Act."/

The NRA-types are all up in arms right now, having screaming fits at the thought that he might win reelection, because then he'll definitely come for all the guns. You know, like they've sworn he'll do every year he's been in office so far?

225 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:02:45pm

re: #223 CuriousLurker

ZOMG, no wonder they're so wary tasty! //

226 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:03:32pm

re: #205 Lidane

In other news, the New York Sun has drowned in a sea of derp:

Sarah Palin for the World Bank?

But. Wait. No. I thought that was satire. They're serious?

227 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:03:35pm

Haha, what a lunatic. Please let him clinch the nomination.

228 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:03:35pm

re: #224 Targetpractice

The NRA-types are all up in arms right now, having screaming fits at the thought that he might win reelection, because then he'll definitely come for all the guns. You know, like they've sworn he'll do every year he's been in office so far?

NRA President said flat out at CPAC that Obama didn't come for the guns in his first term to lull gun owners into a false sense of security.

229 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:04:20pm

re: #182 Gus

God, Guns, and Girlwomen!!!

230 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:04:54pm

re: #228 Kragar

NRA President said flat out at CPAC that Obama didn't come for the guns in his first term to lull gun owners into a false sense of security.

I'd have so much more respect for the NRA if they dropped the silly paranoia.
But, alas, it's what pays their bills.

231 Bunky Bunk  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:04:58pm

re: #114 Slumbering Behemoth

The fuck is a girlwoman? Is that kind of like a Dragonborn or something?

232 aagcobb  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:05:09pm

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

Still stupid, if only by being utterly tone deaf. Romney should use Santorum's blunder and club him with it in states like Ohio and Illinois. I can't see this stance of Rick's playing well outside of the Deep South.

He won't because he's terrified of offending the socons, even though they hate him anyway. He's still hoping to win them over so they will come out and vote in November.

233 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:05:13pm

re: #228 Kragar

NRA President said flat out at CPAC that Obama didn't come for the guns in his first term to lull gun owners into a false sense of security.

*headdesk*

234 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:05:27pm

Well, here's one Palin supporter:

Image: BFF128419669976177500.jpg

235 allegro  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:06:44pm

re: #114 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh, and what the hell...

KidA's page that started it all, in case any of you missed it.

Just for fun, I took some time to educate the young, misguided child as follows:

As a liberal woman, please allow me to educate you to realities since you seem quite taken with myths and… weirdness.

1. Can’t control yourself.
I control myself quite well, especially my fertility with effective birth control methods. I control my sexuality by having enjoyable, consensual sex with whom I desire at the time I desire it. I appreciate those liberal adults in my youth who taught me to be wise about my choices, knowledgeable about birth control, and responsible in the way I enjoy both. As an adult woman, I share that knowledge with young women so they, too, will have control in their lives.

2. Can’t protect yourself.
A gun is not the only protection available to a women, nor is it the best. Do you know that most rapes are committed by a man a woman knows, often a friend, date, or family member? Unless a woman is armed 24/7, a gun is not likely to offer protection. Martial arts do which is why as a liberal woman I would like to see every young woman trained in self defense.

3. No right to be born.
This is true. A many as half of all zygotes are spontaneously ejected from the uterus. Those that implant are there by the nurturing and yes, permission, of the women in whose bodies those zygotes draw support – at the expense of the women’s bodies. If a woman does not wish to give birth to a child, she need not offer you or anyone else any reason to terminate that pregnancy. It is none of your business. Children of mothers who chose to continue with their pregnancies know for a fact that they are wanted and loved.

4. Can’t choose your school.
This is just a stupid diversion to argue for taxes paying for your religious schools. You apparently are so fearful of children learning the facts of evolution, environmental stewardship, and thinking for themselves outside of “the bible sez so!” that you use this really bizarre argument as some kind of feminist issue. Ur doing it wrong.

5. Must join a union.
Another stupid, terribly convoluted argument that makes no sense whatsoever. You don’t want to join a union? Don’t. As for women AND men, unions have been and continue to be the reason we have a 40 hour work week, sick leave, maternity leave, healthcare… Oh, and women do spend money on other things than shoes. Your sexism is showing.

6. Destroying the family.
The highest rates of divorce are in red states, the most loudly Christian states. Did you know that? These are also the states with the highest rates of teenage pregnancy because with backwards attitudes like yours young people are not educated on responsible sex and birth control. The most stable marriage and families are among those adults who are college educated, you know, liberal who get married later.

7. Easy access to criminals.
What the hell? Now you’re just off the rails, not that you had a firm seating to begin with.

BTW, yes I am an animal, just like you are. Family: Animal, Class: Mammal, Genus and species: Homo sapiens. If you are not aware of this fact, perhaps some basic education in biology would serve you well.

You are welcome.

Awaiting moderation.

236 Lidane  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:07:17pm

re: #226 Gus

But. Wait. No. I thought that was satire. They're serious?

I'd like to believe it's satire, but no. It's real. OTOH, I refuse to believe that this comment is sincere:

To those who have bought in to idea that Sarah Palin is not smart, how do you account for her success at everything she attempts? Would a governor appoint her to be Chairman of the Alaska Oil & Gas Commission that controlled 20% of America's oil production if she were stupid? Would the electorate of a state kick out a sitting governor (former Senator) in a primary to elect a stupid person? Would a stupid person be able to defeat a two term former governor in the general election? Would a stupid person be able to campaign for and endorse twenty congressional candidates, helping 18 of them to win their elections?

Combine that with being a successful author of a #1 bestseller, the producer of a hit TV series, a successful paid public speaker and political commentator. Her success for Alaska as governor was brought to a close after her VP campaign by phony democrat lawsuits and a political plan with roots in the White House to stop further achievements in Alaska. Alaskans should not be upset with Gov. Palin for resigning, but they should be irate at the national democrat party for stopping the cooperation that Gov. Palin had fostered between the parties in Alaska.

After Gov. Palin's term in Alaska, the state's credit rating was increased while other states were reduced. That couldn't be because she trimmed the budget, increased monies paid to the state by oil companies, reduced debt, and started a rainy day fund of billions of dollars, or that she pre-funded education one billion dollars? All due to one stupid governor?

Meanwhile our geniuses in Washington have increased our debt by 5 trillion dollars in the last three years. There is a lot that one "stupid" former governor could teach these geniuses.

I needed a good laugh today. That comment does it.

237 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:07:21pm

re: #228 Kragar

NRA President said flat out at CPAC that Obama didn't come for the guns in his first term to lull gun owners into a false sense of security.

Yeah, I saw a quote of that a few hours later. It's got the wingnuts screaming "Look at his history, he'll do it!"

238 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:08:44pm

My piece [Link: www.flickr.com...]

239 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:09:20pm

re: #232 SantorumSurging

He won't because he's terrified of offending the socons, even though they hate him anyway. He's still hoping to win them over so they will come out and vote in November.

The thing is that this wouldn't offend them that badly. And taking Santorum to the woodshed on this one would appeal to women who are socons, whatever they tell the pollster. And it would gain Romney the votes of the more moderate women he'll need to actually win the White House.

Mitt Romney should think it this way: "If the I am rejected by Republicans for favoring prenatal screening, then the 2012 GOP nomination is a poisoned chalice and I would not want it anyways."

240 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:10:06pm

re: #235 allegro

Just for fun, I took some time to educate the young, misguided child as follows:

Awaiting moderation.

That was perfect. I know it won't get through to the OP, but at least it might make other people who read it think.

241 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:10:08pm

re: #200 The Yankee

I don't care about any one owning a gun as long as they have no prior records or are insane. But I doubt it is very good at stopping most sexual assaults. Or most crimes in general. Because of the element of surprise that most criminals have on the victims I doubt that the victim would ever get a chance to get the gun.

Now a dog on the other hand is far more useful even a small one that can give you a warning.

Even with gun drawn and at the ready, there is still no guarantee that you're attacker won't be able to close the distance and fuck your shit up before you can squeeze off a round.

This is why law enforcement has a 21 foot rule for non-lethal deterrents, because a capable person in good shape can quickly close a distance of 20 feet and over take you before you can react in enough time to pull the trigger.

242 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:10:13pm

re: #235 allegro

Just for fun, I took some time to educate the young, misguided child as follows:

Awaiting moderation.

Ha! Nice pwn. Major! I can see the brain lock from here.

243 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:10:19pm

re: #238 PhillyPretzel

My piece [Link: www.flickr.com...]

My peace
Image: peace-button-pack.jpg

dddoooooooodddddd

244 William of Orange  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:11:08pm

I had to change my pants after watching the Daily Show last Friday!!


Jon promised he would no longer make any reference to the alternate meaning of Santorum's name. He has to bring him as a serious candidate.


....oh boy...
...let the fun begin! (Starts at 2'15")

Comedy Central Video

This is entrapment!!

245 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:11:21pm

re: #243 sattv4u2
Very nice collection.

246 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:11:52pm

re: #237 Targetpractice

Yeah, I saw a quote of that a few hours later. It's got the wingnuts screaming "Look at his history, he'll do it!"

Taqiyya!

247 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:12:08pm

re: #238 PhillyPretzel

My piece [Link: www.flickr.com...]


Glock Plasma Pistol.

248 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:13:03pm

re: #237 Targetpractice

Yeah, I saw a quote of that a few hours later. It's got the wingnuts screaming "Look at his history, he'll do it!"

His history in Illinois was distinctly anti-gun, that cannot be denied. That doesn't mean he'd try a gun grab, but it does suggest he might if he thought it would pass. But "suggest that he might" doesn't justify the kind of panic the NRA is throwing around.

249 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:13:14pm

re: #247 Somalia: Libertarian Paradise
Neat. Where can I get one? /

250 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:13:27pm

re: #214 Dark_Falcon

Likely true.

If there's one myth that I'd think LGF would have entirely dispelled for you it's that all liberals support strengthening gun control laws. I am for enforcing existing laws on straw sales, but have repeatedly argued against assault weapons laws and similar nonsensical regulations.

251 The Yankee  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:14:19pm

re: #241 Slumbering Behemoth

I have seen that video where a cop is trying to pull his/her gun out the holster. Even when they get one off they probably wont hit the attacker. And this is with A COP knowing that this is going to happen.

The only thing that I can say a gun is really good at protecting you against on a regular basis is wild animals. They tend to be dumb enough to let you get your gun before they attack.

252 Sionainn  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:14:26pm

re: #110 Slumbering Behemoth

Here a comment he left on the very argle bargle KidA linked...

I had no idea that Rick Santorum was a "liberal father". Go figure.

My liberal father would likely take his gun and go after someone who raped me.

253 Linden Arden  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:14:59pm

re: #244 William of Orange

I'm with Jon.

I don't want to see Santorum self-destruct just yet.

(Odds he will self-destruct = 100%)

254 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:15:01pm

re: #228 Kragar

NRA President said flat out at CPAC that Obama didn't come for the guns in his first term to lull gun owners into a false sense of security.

This idea is the close cousin to one I used to see put forth all.the.time during the peak of 9/11 Truthery: evidence that would seem to disprove the conspiracy theory is itself part of the conspiracy.

The short version goes like this:

Truther: "blah blah cruise missile blah blah controlled demolition blah blah WTC-7".

sane person: "Not only is that untrue, it's physically impossible. Here are several detailed sources that refute your claims."

Truther: "Ah-HAH, got you! Why would anyone bother to refute so-called 'physically impossible' claims unless they were covering up totally true truthfully true truth?!? INSIDE JAWB! NWO! WHARRGARBLEAcajboagaxfjeRONPAUL!"

etc

255 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:15:31pm

re: #249 PhillyPretzel

Neat. Where can I get one? /

Boneyard Fortress.

256 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:16:29pm

re: #249 PhillyPretzel

Neat. Where can I get one? /

Mick & Ralph's in New Vegas.

//

257 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:16:32pm

re: #254 Bishop Cornwallis Gobbletot

This idea is the close cousin to one I used to see put forth all.the.time during the peak of 9/11 Truthery: evidence that would seem to disprove the conspiracy theory is itself part of the conspiracy.

The short version goes like this:

Truther: "blah blah cruise missile blah blah controlled demolition blah blah WTC-7".

sane person: "Not only is that untrue, it's physically impossible. Here are several detailed sources that refute your claims."

Truther: "Ah-HAH, got you! Why would anyone bother to refute so-called 'physically impossible' claims unless they were covering up totally true truthfully true truth?!? INSIDE JAWB! NWO! WHARRGARBLEAcajboagaxfjeRONPAUL!"

etc

Allow me us illustrate my point using this chicken wire and a bottle of lighter fluid.

258 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:16:46pm

re: #235 allegro

So. Fucking. Awesome!

Awaiting moderation.

More than ten minutes later, and it's still not showing. I think you might be too much for poor little Admin's pea-brain to handle.

259 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:18:07pm

re: #250 goddamnedfrank

If there's one myth that I'd think LGF would have entirely dispelled for you it's that all liberals support strengthening gun control laws. I am for enforcing existing laws on straw sales, but have repeatedly argued against assault weapons laws and similar nonsensical regulations.

I'll agree that none of the liberals here are gun grabbers. And your positions on the subject, Frank, are generally similar to mine.

260 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:18:20pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

His history in Illinois was distinctly anti-gun, that cannot be denied. That doesn't mean he'd try a gun grab, but it does suggest he might if he thought it would pass. But "suggest that he might" doesn't justify the kind of panic the NRA is throwing around.

The man may support one if it had a realistic chance of getting through Congress, but I don't see him actively agitating for one anytime soon.

261 Lidane  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:18:34pm

re: #250 goddamnedfrank

If there's one myth that I'd think LGF would have entirely dispelled for you it's that all liberals support strengthening gun control laws. I am for enforcing existing laws on straw sales, but have repeatedly argued against assault weapons laws and similar nonsensical regulations.

On that note, I'm totally in favor of enforcing the laws we already have on the books, not in passing new ones.

The only gun control I would ask for is mandatory gun safety classes and time on a firing range before you get a license. You don't have any business owning a gun if you don't know the first thing about how to properly store, clean, and maintain it, and you sure as hell don't need a gun in your house if you don't know how to fire the damn thing. Oh, and keep guns the hell out of bars. I worked in a bar. The last thing a bunch of drunks need is firearms at the ready.

262 Bunky Bunk  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:18:56pm

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

Right, because gun control legislation specifically prevents women from owning firearms.

263 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:19:00pm

re: #258 Slumbering Behemoth

So. Fucking. Awesome!

More than ten minutes later, and it's still not showing. I think you might be too much for poor little Admin's pea-brain to handle.

Maybe Twajie and his Latin Queens will show up to defend him.

//

264 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:20:41pm

re: #254 Bishop Cornwallis Gobbletot

This idea is the close cousin to one I used to see put forth all.the.time during the peak of 9/11 Truthery: evidence that would seem to disprove the conspiracy theory is itself part of the conspiracy.

The short version goes like this:

Truther: "blah blah cruise missile blah blah controlled demolition blah blah WTC-7".

sane person: "Not only is that untrue, it's physically impossible. Here are several detailed sources that refute your claims."

Truther: "Ah-HAH, got you! Why would anyone bother to refute so-called 'physically impossible' claims unless they were covering up totally true truthfully true truth?!? INSIDE JAWB! NWO! WHARRGARBLEAcajboagaxfjeRONPAUL!"

etc

"Conspiracism is a symptom of a mind in flight from reality." - Jonathon Kay

265 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:20:58pm

re: #255 Somalia: Libertarian Paradise

re: #256 Targetpractice

I will wait for Her Grace Honor Harrington to give me one. I believe she has a pulser for sale.

266 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:21:01pm

re: #240 CuriousLurker

That was perfect. I know it won't get through to the OP, but at least it might make other people who read it think.

It's not likely to be published, 'admins' agenda will only allow posts that allow him to answer with his pat regurgitations.

267 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:21:04pm

re: #218 SH1T My Conscience Says

It's a horribly irresponsible idea to suggest to women that guns will prevent rape in all, or even most, cases. The opportunity to pull a gun for defence can be circumvented through the attacker being a bit sneakier and using misdirection. If women feel the gun makes them invulnerable to rape they're going to put themselves in situations where their real best weapon, their brain, is only half engaged.

Maybe the women should be more responsible and just pull the gun and blow the guy away at the first sexual advance. Otherwise, she was obviously asking for it!
/////

268 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:21:29pm

re: #263 Gus

"I'm a True Conservative, Christian, and Patriotic American. I also am a member of a violent, criminal street gang".

Mega-Derp.

269 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:21:54pm

re: #266 SH1T My Conscience Says

It's not likely to be published, 'admins' Mongo's agenda will only allow posts that allow him to answer with his pat regurgitations.

FTFY

270 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:22:08pm

re: #260 Targetpractice

The man may support one if it had a realistic chance of getting through Congress, but I don't see him actively agitating for one anytime soon.

My thoughts as well.

I've got some more things to say, but I'll need to say 'em later. Gotta help my dad with something. BBL

271 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:22:19pm

Mongo have no blog...
Mongo confused.

272 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:22:33pm

re: #247 Somalia: Libertarian Paradise


Glock Plasma Pistol.

Scimitar. Besides, he'd have to get past my genie first.

273 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:22:55pm

re: #271 Somalia: Libertarian Paradise

Mongo have no blog...
Mongo confused.

Mongo...only pawn in game of life.

274 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:23:05pm

re: #268 Slumbering Behemoth

"I'm a True Conservative, Christian, and Patriotic American. I also am a member of a violent, criminal street gang".

Mega-Derp.

Yeah. And you know how those violent criminal street gangs loooovvvve conservatives. Derpity dooo!

275 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:24:39pm

re: #272 CuriousLurker

Scimitar. Besides, he'd have to get past my genie first.

Katana, also Dremora Lord.

276 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:25:07pm

re: #274 Gus

I bet the puss hasn't even seen a fight.

That's one thing I did like about tfk, he would mock and shame internet tough guys like that.

277 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:26:04pm

LOL The loser is losing:

admin says:
February 19, 2012 at 6:21 pm

At this point I’m just enjoying seeing you liberals sitting there waiting for comment approval. After your lack of substantive replies, it’s my right to jerk you all around. It’s my muse for the moment scum bags.

278 allegro  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:27:36pm

re: #266 SH1T My Conscience Says

It's not likely to be published, 'admins' agenda will only allow posts that allow him to answer with his pat regurgitations.

He whined that no one was offering "substantive arguments" right? So I gave him some in quite a civil manner, I thought. We shall see, won't we?

279 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:27:49pm

re: #273 Targetpractice

Mongo...only pawn in game of life.

But if he gets to the last row he could turn into a queen.

Liberal Agenda!!!!

280 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:27:58pm

re: #277 Gus

LOL The loser is losing:

VIOLATION OF THE CONSTANTION!!!!

281 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:28:11pm

re: #262 Bunky Bunk

Right, because gun control legislation specifically prevents women from owning firearms.

There's an argument to be made that actually banning guns has a disproportionate effect on the physically weaker and most vulnerable members of society, regardless of gender.

An apocryphal quote but it fits:
"Abe Lincoln may have freed all men, but Sam Colt made them equal."

282 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:28:41pm

re: #235 allegro

admin says:
February 19, 2012 at 6:21 pm

At this point I’m just enjoying seeing you liberals sitting there waiting for comment approval. After your lack of substantive replies, it’s my right to jerk you all around. It’s my muse for the moment scum bags.

Oooh, he sure told you.

Heh, the poor little idiot doesn't realize he's just the wingnut flavor of the week, and that this will blow over soon and he can go back to getting zero attention and zero comments.

283 aagcobb  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:28:43pm

re: #224 Targetpractice

The NRA-types are all up in arms right now, having screaming fits at the thought that he might win reelection, because then he'll definitely come for all the guns. You know, like they've sworn he'll do every year he's been in office so far?

Obama's been the best thing that ever happened to firearms ownership, cause the wingnuts all rushed out to load up on guns and ammo when he was elected.

284 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:29:21pm

Geez. Some guy with pizzas I did not order. I answered the door from my safe room upstairs.

285 Bunky Bunk  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:29:57pm

re: #281 goddamnedfrank

Of course, but I think we can reasonably agree that distilling strict gun laws into "banning female gun ownership" is reductive.

286 engineer cat  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:30:10pm

Nearly half of private workforce employed by big companies

when the constitution was written, most americans were independent farmers

and we wonder where our freedoms went...

287 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:30:36pm

re: #284 PhillyPretzel

Geez. Some guy with pizzas I did not order. I answered the door from my safe room upstairs.

I'll have a coupla slices!

288 engineer cat  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:30:54pm

Why social media, mobile phones want your info

if ricky gets to be president, fetuses will be the only beings with any privacy rights...

289 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:31:32pm

re: #235 allegro

Just for fun, I took some time to educate the young, misguided child as follows:

Awaiting moderation.

You should re-post this on Kid A's page.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

290 Bunky Bunk  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:31:49pm

re: #282 Slumbering Behemoth

Isn't he the same tool that tried to imply that "liberals" hated free speech and an open discussion of ideas? Congratulations Admin, you are now King of the world's smallest hill.

291 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:31:52pm

re: #288 engineer cat

Why social media, mobile phones want your info

if ricky gets to be president, fetuses will be the only beings with any privacy rights...

I always laugh when a site asks me for my personal info so they can keep it secure for me.

292 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:32:10pm

re: #286 engineer cat

Nearly half of private workforce employed by big companies

when the constitution was written, most americans were independant farmers

and we wonder where our freedoms went...

Along with the Feds grabbing ownership of most of the land. Just look at the percentage of the United States owned by the government now as compared to 1783!*
//
* - Yes, there's some monstrous logical fallacy stuff loose here. :)

293 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:32:54pm

re: #284 PhillyPretzel

Geez. Some guy with pizzas I did not order. I answered the door from my safe room upstairs.

I bet it's covered in pineapple, too.

294 The Yankee  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:33:24pm

I think the main reason why the Pro-lifers and NRA are stressing is because if Obama is re-elected he will probably appoint some one else to the supreme court.

Maybe Hillary Clinton.

295 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:34:26pm

re: #284 PhillyPretzel

Geez. Some guy with pizzas I did not order. I answered the door from my safe room upstairs.

Darn, now you reminded me that I'm hungry. Gonna go scrounge up some something to eat. BBL

296 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:34:30pm

re: #293 Bishop Cornwallis Gobbletot
LOL. We have cheese steak pizzas in Philly no pineapple.

297 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:34:59pm

re: #294 The Yankee

Maybe Hillary Clinton.

Well, if he wants wingnuts to go extinct in a massive, world wide, splodey head event, he should do that.

298 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:35:00pm

BBL

299 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:36:03pm

re: #298 Gus

LIES!!!

300 The Yankee  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:36:40pm

re: #296 PhillyPretzel

LOL. We have cheese steak pizzas in Philly no pineapple.

What is your favorite place to get a cheese steak in Philly.
My favorite place to grab a slice is SoHo pizza on Market street nearer to 3rd street and Market. But that is mostly cause I am in philly late and they are open. I don't like Geno's or Pat's.

301 Bunky Bunk  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:37:57pm

re: #297 Slumbering Behemoth

I was thinking about what a lame-duck Obama administration could do in 2016/7 and I have to imagine that getting them to derp themselves to death would be at the top of the list. Assuming of course that Biden stays on as VP into a second term and the 2016 Democratic nominee comes from outside of the administration.

302 Bunky Bunk  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:38:29pm

re: #300 The Yankee

Jim's! Mmm...I'm hungry.

303 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:39:15pm

re: #300 The Yankee
I am sorry I really can't make any suggestions. I usually make my steak sandwiches with onions and mushrooms.

304 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:39:18pm

re: #301 Bunky Bunk

Suicide by derp. Nice.

305 aagcobb  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:40:07pm

re: #294 The Yankee

I think the main reason why the Pro-lifers and NRA are stressing is because if Obama is re-elected he will probably appoint some one else to the supreme court.

Maybe Hillary Clinton.

He should appoint someone younger, so he/she can stay on the Court a few decades.

306 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:43:28pm

re: #300 The Yankee

What is your favorite place to get a cheese steak in Philly.
My favorite place to grab a slice is SoHo pizza on Market street nearer to 3rd street and Market. But that is mostly cause I am in philly late and they are open. I don't like Geno's or Pat's.

Mine's a deli called "Pastrami and Things" on 18th between Market and Chestnut. More a matter of convenience with it being close to work than being the "best" cheese steak in Philly.

307 God of Binders with Women  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:44:01pm

re: #289 Gus

You should re-post this on Kid A's page.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Please do!

308 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:44:17pm

re: #235 allegro

Just for fun, I took some time to educate the young, misguided child as follows:

Awaiting moderation.

That's a good reply...to bad it'll be flushed over there.

309 The Yankee  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:44:28pm

re: #302 Bunky Bunk

re: #303 PhillyPretzel

There is a new place on South Street, I believe called S.O.S, which is damn good. And there is a joint that sells nothing but ice cream that is on a corner some where on front street in Old City. Might of always been there but I first noticed it when I seen a line of about 20-30 people waiting to get some.

310 allegro  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:44:35pm

re: #307 Kid A

Please do!

I did!

311 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:45:19pm

re: #307 Kid A

Again, dude, kudos on you're new, rent free digs.

Too bad it's really tiny.

312 God of Binders with Women  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:45:28pm

re: #235 allegro

That was so well done, I just had to thank you for adding to my experience of discovering that clown and reporting it here.

313 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:46:15pm

re: #309 The Yankee

re: #303 PhillyPretzel

There is a new place on South Street, I believe called S.O.S, which is damn good. And there is a joint that sells nothing but ice cream that is on a corner some where on front street in Old City. Might of always been there but I first noticed it when I seen a line of about 20-30 people waiting to get some.

Is the ice cream any good?

314 God of Binders with Women  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:46:24pm

re: #311 Slumbering Behemoth

Again, dude, kudos on you're new, rent free digs.

It's pretty empty here. And a little dark, too. I think the walls could use a ladies touch.

315 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:46:24pm

re: #310 allegro

I did!

I'm only updinging that because I couldn't upding your other comment to eleventy.

316 allegro  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:46:37pm

re: #308 talon_262

That's a good reply...to bad it'll be flushed over there.

I expect it will. We'll learn how much he wants "substantive arguments" that he so frequently decries a lack of. I'm happy to discuss them if he's man enough to go there.

317 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:50:03pm

re: #316 allegro

He's not. His "Liberal Assault" post has the highest number of comments out of any of his posts, topping out at a staggering 14 comments. Over two thirds of which are comments by him.

He's not even remotely interested in hearing substantive arguments. He is only interested in basking in the glow of his own strawman arguments.

318 God of Binders with Women  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:50:38pm

re: #317 Slumbering Behemoth

One day, that assclown is going to thank me for his new-found "fame."

319 God of Binders with Women  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:51:14pm

re: #316 allegro

As a liberal woman, please allow me to educate you to realities since you seem quite taken with myths and… weirdness.

Bravo on the pause before weirdness. I laughed my ass off.

320 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:51:34pm

*Adds Kid A to list of people not to piss off*

321 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:51:43pm

re: #318 Kid A

If anything, it gave us something to laugh at for a couple of days.

322 The Yankee  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:52:21pm

re: #313 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

No clue, me and lactose are not friendly, when I do meet up with it I generally avoid social situations lol. But it is hard to make bad ice cream.

There is one other places I have been dying to go but I am usually in Philly way to late to go there. It is this European Fries place. It has a sign up in that is a bunch of fries in a cone shape funnel. Love me some Eurpean style fries with euro mayo and ketchup..

323 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:55:16pm

Alright, I'm off to the recyclers (I recycle because I'm a conservative ), then to take the proceeds to the liquor store (I drink because of the giant number of theocratic, far right reactionaries who call themselves "conservative").

BBL

324 allegro  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:58:12pm

My, my. After whining that he gets no "substantive arguments" the young wizard has this to say on the thread I initially posted my comment to (after my comment was there and in moderation):

Sorry libbies, you lost your right to be heard. Too much insulting tainted the waters. You have no right to post. My blog. My say. I’m aborting any more posts. You don’t have the right to be heard. It’s my decision.

I also posted it to the more current thread. Not there neither though he did allow another post that he thinks he cleverly parried. Apparently he isn't adult enough to answer civil, substantive arguments after all. Gee, I am so surprised.

325 God of Binders with Women  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 3:58:37pm

I posted this on Mensa's page.

Since when did liberals (or anyone else for that matter) ever say that women have no intrinsic value or no right to exist? And as far as good schools go, it's so-called conservatives that are gutting funding for education in every which way. We can debate, but you're so caught it up in this ideological finger pointing and setting on fire every one of your straw men, that I don't think it's possible.

326 God of Binders with Women  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:00:47pm

WTF??? "Liberals Tell Women They Must be Raped."

[Link: www.conservativesnetwork.com...]

327 allegro  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:03:57pm

re: #325 Kid A

I posted this on Mensa's page.

Gosh, he posted your comment but not mine. I am emotionally scarred, I tells ya.

328 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:05:06pm

OT: Charles if you are trying out some new function like making the list of people in the room linkable to their profiles. I like the idea but it is kicking me off this thread. Then again I have IE8.

329 prairiefire  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:06:32pm

re: #327 allegro

Gosh, he posted your comment but not mine. I am emotionally scarred, I tells ya.

Maybe he's a sexist./

330 Kronocide  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:11:42pm

Robert Stacy McBigot is linking Diary of Derp about Heartland:

Robert Stacy McCain @rsmccain
Did Little Green Footballs LIBEL the Heartland Institute? diaryofdaedalus.com/2012/02/19/cha… GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY! @jlakely

331 docproto48  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:16:56pm

re: #115 goddamnedfrank

Here's Santorum from the same interview with Caffeinated Thoughts:

[Video]

Who gets to determine what a conservative professor is and what a liberal professor is???
Have you considered professors are some of the brightest minds in everything....and he considers them liberal? Sounds like a conspiracy to me.

has anyone noticed the spell checker tries to change Santorum to sanitorium??

332 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:17:22pm

re: #324 allegro

My, my. After whining that he gets no "substantive arguments" the young wizard has this to say on the thread I initially posted my comment to (after my comment was there and in moderation):

I also posted it to the more current thread. Not there neither though he did allow another post that he thinks he cleverly parried. Apparently he isn't adult enough to answer civil, substantive arguments after all. Gee, I am so surprised.

Surprise, surprise...when faced with dogged opposition, this intellectually dishonest coward pulls the "I'm taking my ball home, so I automatically win!" card.

/how does "DERP DERP DERP" sound in an echo chamber?

333 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:19:09pm

re: #331 docproto48
Yes I have. I think the spell checker is on to something. ::: cue the Twilight Zone theme :::

334 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:20:29pm

re: #324 allegro

My, my. After whining that he gets no "substantive arguments" the young wizard has this to say on the thread I initially posted my comment to (after my comment was there and in moderation):

I also posted it to the more current thread. Not there neither though he did allow another post that he thinks he cleverly parried. Apparently he isn't adult enough to answer civil, substantive arguments after all. Gee, I am so surprised.

Too rational. Too credible. Hard to dispute, therefore it must be blocked.

335 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:21:00pm

The Heartland Institute are lying scumbags.
Bring on the libel suit, punks.

336 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:21:08pm

You're feeding an insignificant troll. Best thing that ever happened to it. I'm just sayin'. ;)

337 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:26:54pm

re: #336 Your ad could be here.

You're feeding an insignificant troll. Best thing that ever happened to it. I'm just sayin'. ;)

Yeah, best not to feed it anymore. Trying to rationalize with it won't work.

338 docproto48  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:27:34pm

re: #333 PhillyPretzel

Yes I have. I think the spell checker is on to something. ::: cue the Twilight Zone theme :::

I think from now on I'll let the checker have its way!

339 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:30:22pm

re: #324 allegro

Aw, poor gomer. This is probably the most exciting weekend he's had in years.

340 Obdicut  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:30:59pm

If the GOP sinks into enough of a debacle this election season, it may actually be open to reform. I'd really love to see the Sanatorum-type theocrats and the Paul Ryan-style capitalist-anarchists segue off into the Constitution Party or the Conservative Party or some other catchall for cranks and unreconstructed paleocons.

Then the GOP might actually be composed of people who actually want the government to succeed at what it does, and want to temper its powers and responsibilities with personal liberties and scientific inquiry.

341 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:32:13pm

Wanna see a much more "visceral" sicko?

[Link: bobstruth.blogspot.com...]

I've never decided, though, whether this whole blog is some dark parody.

342 allegro  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:32:22pm

re: #339 Slumbering Behemoth

Aw, poor gomer. This is probably the most exciting weekend he's had in years.

Heh, no doubt. Now that he thinks he has a winning ticket and POWER over libruls there's just no telling the heights he can achieve. Poor sap.

343 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:33:10pm

re: #341 Your ad could be here.

Wanna see a much more "visceral" sicko?

[Link: bobstruth.blogspot.com...]

I've never decided, though, whether this whole blog is some dark parody.

O_o

344 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:34:27pm

re: #340 Obdicut

What is the chance of brokered convention, you think? I could see a scenario where neither Santorum or Romney get the needed delegates for the nomination.

Also, do you think that the Constitution Party might be able to siphon off enough votes to really scuttle the Republicans? They might be nominating a former Republican Representative, one who bashed Keith Ellison back in 2006 for swearing over the Quran.

345 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:34:37pm

re: #339 Slumbering Behemoth

Aw, poor gomer. This is probably the most exciting weekend he's had in years.

Heh, these days when I here the name Gomer I no longer think of Gomer Pyle, I think of Louis Gomert. *grimace*

346 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:35:18pm

re: #341 Your ad could be here.

Wanna see a much more "visceral" sicko?

[Link: bobstruth.blogspot.com...]

I've never decided, though, whether this whole blog is some dark parody.

It's, uh, supposed to be "satire," you know, like that "woman in the neck brace" video we were talking about last week.

It's not funny.

347 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:36:17pm

re: #341 Your ad could be here.

I.. just...

Has ANY female EVER been hurt by rape?

When Bob's mother was growing up the advice or rape that women of Bob's grandmother's generation gave them was "If rape is inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it." Feminists have decried this age-old female advice. It perpetuates ancient female knowledge that sex is a normal body activity that can be enjoyable, even if it wasn't her idea.

I mean...

re: #341 Your ad could be here.

I've never decided, though, whether this whole blog is some dark parody.

Dear Gravel, I hope it is.

348 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:36:24pm

re: #346 Look At My Grandbaby!

You know this blog?

349 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:37:09pm

re: #345 CuriousLurker

I go off of spelling, so no problem. However, speaking of idiots and the military, I saw this on Cracked:

The 5 Craziest War Stories (All Happened on the Same Ship)

This calls for a Hollywood Movie. In the style of Tropic Thunder.

350 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:37:42pm

re: #346 Look At My Grandbaby!

It's, uh, supposed to be "satire," you know, like that "woman in the neck brace" video we were talking about last week.

It's not funny.

Holy shit.

351 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:38:02pm

re: #342 allegro

Heh, no doubt. Now that he thinks he has a winning ticket and POWER over libruls there's just no telling the heights he can achieve. Poor sap.

There is something sad yet entertaining playing with a mind unable to logically understand his own straw constructs.

352 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:38:36pm

re: #345 CuriousLurker
Since I have doctors in my family this is what gomer means to me.
Get
Out of
My
Emergency
Room

353 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:38:43pm

re: #348 Your ad could be here.

You know this blog?

Never saw it before. Never want to see it again.

354 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:39:39pm

re: #352 PhillyPretzel

Since I have doctors in my family this is what gomer means to me.
Get
Out of
My
Emergency
Room

That's referring to junkies who fake life-threatening emergencies in order to score some morphine or vicodin?

355 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:40:08pm

re: #352 PhillyPretzel

Since I have doctors in my family this is what gomer means to me.
Get
Out of
My
Emergency
Room

LOL!

356 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:40:17pm

re: #353 Look At My Grandbaby!

OK. I just don't know if it's indeed satire or not. I've written about it at HC in 2006 because he also engaged in Holocaust denial. Haven't visited it since then and was surprised that it was even alive until recently. Maybe not satire, after all. Which is kinda sad.

357 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:41:45pm

re: #354 Look At My Grandbaby!
Those folks too. I was told it was for hypochondriacs.

358 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:42:16pm

re: #349 ProGunLiberal

I go off of spelling, so no problem. However, speaking of idiots and the military, I saw this on Cracked:

The 5 Craziest War Stories (All Happened on the Same Ship)

This calls for a Hollywood Movie. In the style of Tropic Thunder.

Damn, that crew makes Paul Watson's look like a professional force...

359 allegro  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:42:28pm

re: #356 Your ad could be here.

OK. I just don't know if it's indeed satire or not. I've written about it at HC in 2006 because he also engaged in Holocaust denial. Haven't visited it since then and was surprised that it was even alive until recently. Maybe not satire, after all. Which is kinda sad.

"Sad" is not the word that came to my mind. Venal, evil, violent, hateful... those did come to mind and that was just the first paragraph. I did not venture much further.

360 Meitantei  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:44:58pm

re: #283 SantorumSurging

A friend of mine works at a gun store. He likes to thank Obama because if it wasn't for him, business wouldn't have been booming and he never would have been promoted. Boosting the economy, one job at a time.

361 Obdicut  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:45:58pm

re: #344 ProGunLiberal

What is the chance of brokered convention, you think?

No clue. Check 538.

Also, do you think that the Constitution Party might be able to siphon off enough votes to really scuttle the Republicans?

No. The current GOP is radical anyway. Even if Romney is the nominee, he's not going to be able to swing back to the middle too much in the general without demotivating the base. The GOP is stuck on crazy. So what's the appeal of the Constitution party this go round?

What I'm hoping is that they lose badly and fracture. If Romney is the nominee and loses, the paleocons and religious-right whackos may say that the GOP will never run a 'true' conservative and so abandon it. If Santorum gets the nomination and loses-- loses very badly-- the anarcho-capitalists will blame the religious-right types and may drive them out or drive themselves out.

This is all just fantasy. We'll see if the wall is too high.

362 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:47:01pm

re: #358 Somalia: Libertarian Paradise

It's like the ship was crewed by the Keystone Cops.

I stand by the statement that this should be made into a movie. I would watch the shit out of that movie. Again, should be done in Tropic Thunder style.

363 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:48:44pm

re: #362 ProGunLiberal

It's like the ship was crewed by the Keystone Cops.

I stand by the statement that this should be made into a movie. I would watch the shit out of that movie. Again, should be done in Tropic Thunder style.

Totally.

#5. Wrecked a Friendly Ship Just Pulling Out of Port
#4. Nearly Blew Up the President's Boat With a Depth Charge ...
#3. ... Then Accidentally Launched a Torpedo at the President's Boat
#2. While in Exile, Fired a Shell at a Base Commander's House
#1. Finally Sank in the Most Embarrassing Way Possible

You can't make that shit up!
XD

364 Obdicut  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:49:59pm

re: #352 PhillyPretzel

Since I have doctors in my family this is what gomer means to me.
Get
Out of
My
Emergency
Room

I like this one from the UK: NFN, meaning "Normal For Norfolk", meaning appearing to have an altered mental state but actually just rather dim and aggressively ignorant-- and possibly inbred.

365 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:50:33pm

re: #363 Somalia: Libertarian Paradise

The only possible title would be

"This is absolutely a True Story."

366 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:51:38pm

re: #341 Your ad could be here.

Wanna see a much more "visceral" sicko?

[Link: bobstruth.blogspot.com...]

I've never decided, though, whether this whole blog is some dark parody.

I came this close to putting my fist through the monitor. Scumbag.

367 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:52:47pm

re: #365 ProGunLiberal

The only possible title would be

"This is absolutely a True Story."

Lol, second comment at cracked,

How the hell isn't there a movie about this ship?

368 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:53:31pm

re: #365 ProGunLiberal

Some guys on Cracked had some good comments. The second one is replying to the first:

Obviously the bottle didn't break when that ship was christened.

then

the gunnery crew probably drank it before it had the chance.

369 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:55:33pm

re: #349 ProGunLiberal

I go off of spelling, so no problem. However, speaking of idiots and the military, I saw this on Cracked:

The 5 Craziest War Stories (All Happened on the Same Ship)

This calls for a Hollywood Movie. In the style of Tropic Thunder.

Seriously, if you need a good laugh, read this.

370 Robert O.  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:56:08pm

Have these right-wing Neanderthals got around to repealing women's suffrage yet? Or am I thinking too far ahead...

371 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:57:47pm

re: #370 Robert O.

Have these right-wing Neanderthals got around to repealing women's suffrage yet? Or am I thinking too far ahead...

It's on the ToDo list. Have patience.

372 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 4:59:43pm

re: #370 Robert O.

Since Freetoken isn't here....

STOP DENIGRATING NEANDERTHALS!!!
/

373 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:03:32pm

re: #372 Slumbering Behemoth

Since Freetoken isn't here...

STOP DENIGRATING NEANDERTHALS!!!
/

Relatives?

Sorry.
There is some speculation sapiens red hair is from neanderthal DNA.

My mother and her sister had red hair.

374 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:04:00pm

My Butt-Hurt sense is tingling...

Atheists to Reward RI Teen with $40K for Prayer Banner's Removal?

375 allegro  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:04:23pm

re: #373 SH1T My Conscience Says

Relatives?

Sorry.
There is some speculation sapiens red hair is from neanderthal DNA.

My mother and her sister had red hair.

So did I so shut up. :P

376 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:06:03pm

re: #375 allegro

So did I so shut up. :P

I'm so red-headed without having red hair, my freckles have freckles.

377 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:07:24pm

re: #359 allegro

"Sad" is not the word that came to my mind. Venal, evil, violent, hateful... those did come to mind and that was just the first paragraph. I did not venture much further.

I think you're right. I just looked at his Twitter page and noticed that not only does he send out his tweets with the #ocra (Organized Conservative Resistance Alliance) hashtag, but he also lists his phone number, which is in Western Washington state. IOW, we're talking white nationalist territory here.

378 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:07:58pm

Ricky Gervais Says It's 'Child Abuse' to Tell Children Gays Will Go to Hell

***SPOILER ALERT***

It totally is.

379 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:09:10pm

re: #377 CuriousLurker

Fucking Seattle residents!
/kidding

380 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:09:21pm

re: #335 Somalia: Libertarian Paradise

The Heartland Institute are lying scumbags.
Bring on the libel suit, punks.

It's all political theater, an effort by Heartland and their allies to get critics (such as Charles/LGF) to back down under threat of lawsuits. Lawsuits that, IMO, will never be filed because that would open them up to pretrial discovery; they'll never go for that, with all of the hinky shit they pull.

381 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:09:43pm

Wow, the wingnuts are attacking me in force on Twitter today. Why are they so worked up?

It might have something to do with this: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Notice the Twitter counter: 1369 and still climbing. It's like a butthurt bomb in the shallow end of the wingnut pool.

382 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:10:12pm

re: #349 ProGunLiberal

I go off of spelling, so no problem. However, speaking of idiots and the military, I saw this on Cracked:

The 5 Craziest War Stories (All Happened on the Same Ship)

This calls for a Hollywood Movie. In the style of Tropic Thunder.

Sounds like an inspiration for McHale's Navy...

383 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:10:37pm

Since we're on a freak binge, I noticed that a prominent Aussie idjit John Jay Ray, who likes to accuse "the Left" of antisemitism and was one of the first to claim that the Nazis were "Leftists" has made this update to his sidebar:

[Link: dissectleft.blogspot.com...]

Leftists call their hatred of Israel "Anti-Zionism" but Zionists are only a small minority in Israel

Some of the Leftist hatred of Israel is motivated by old-fashioned antisemitism (beliefs in Jewish "control" etc.) but most of it is just the regular Leftist hatred of success in others. And because the societies they inhabit do not give them the vast amount of recognition that their large but weak egos need, some of the most virulent haters of Israel and America live in those countries. So the hatred is the product of pathologically high self-esteem.

Conservatives, on the other hand could be antisemitic on entirely rational grounds: Namely, the overwhelming Leftism of the Diaspora Jewish population as a whole. Because they judge the individual, however, only a tiny minority of conservative-oriented people make such general judgments. The longer Jews continue on their "stiff-necked" course, however, the more that is in danger of changing. The children of Israel have been a stiff necked people since the days of Moses, however, so they will no doubt continue to vote with their emotions rather than their reason.

Fortunately for America, though, liberal Jews there are rapidly dying out through intermarriage and failure to reproduce. And the quite poisonous liberal Jews of Israel are not much better off. Judaism is slowly returning to Orthodoxy and the Orthodox tend to be conservative.

384 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:10:48pm

By the way, the Heartland Institute did not say anything about "libel" in their email. The wingnuts just made this up out of nothing.

385 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:11:53pm

re: #369 Somalia: Libertarian Paradise

Seriously, if you need a good laugh, read this.

For a wacky Internet humor site, Cracked.com has some of the best historical articles! Way better than the Alien History Channel.

386 Obdicut  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:13:35pm

re: #383 Your ad could be here.

Fucking insane.

Because they judge the individual, however, only a tiny minority of conservative-oriented people make such general judgments.

Ah, good, so we won't see any generalization about Jews coming from...

The longer Jews continue on their "stiff-necked" course, however, the more that is in danger of changing. The children of Israel have been a stiff necked people since the days of Moses, however, so they will no doubt continue to vote with their emotions rather than their reason.

Never mind.

387 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:13:55pm

re: #379 Slumbering Behemoth

Fucking Seattle residents!
/kidding

Heh. Seriously though, his tweets go out all day long in a steady mantra of hatred towards liberals. Completely unhinged.

388 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:14:01pm

re: #384 Charles Johnson

By the way, the Heartland Institute did not say anything about "libel" in their email. The wingnuts just made this up out of nothing.

Since they claim that the strategy PDF is not their property, how can they force anyone to remove it?

389 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:14:23pm

re: #383 Your ad could be here.

Since we're on a freak binge, I noticed that a prominent Aussie idjit John Jay Ray, who likes to accuse "the Left" of antisemitism and was one of the first to claim that the Nazis were "Leftists" has made this update to his sidebar:

*face palm*

390 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:15:05pm

re: #383 Your ad could be here.

Since we're on a freak binge, I noticed that a prominent Aussie idjit John Jay Ray, who likes to accuse "the Left" of antisemitism and was one of the first to claim that the Nazis were "Leftists" has made this update to his sidebar:

Impressive pile of bull shit.

391 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:15:38pm

I don't get the "sandwich board" thing they are hyperventilating over. Must have missed it. What is that all about?

392 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:16:28pm

re: #386 Obdicut

Dr. Ray of course has a dubious honor of having his own sub-chapter in this book: [Link: www.ferris.edu...]

393 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:16:54pm

I decided to look at the polling right now for the general.

Things look bad for Republicans. How bad you ask?

Obama is leading by some amount with a number of states that, combined, represent 341 electoral votes.

I don't think it is impossible for Obama to get 411 Electoral Votes. Hell, he's running within 7% of even the strongest opponents in TX.

394 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:16:55pm

re: #391 Look At My Grandbaby!

I don't get the "sandwich board" thing they are hyperventilating over. Must have missed it. What is that all about?

Its called they're misinterpreting a minor details and working up a frothy lather to disregard the actual claims.

395 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:17:20pm

re: #383 Your ad could be here.

Since we're on a freak binge, I noticed that a prominent Aussie idjit John Jay Ray, who likes to accuse "the Left" of antisemitism and was one of the first to claim that the Nazis were "Leftists" has made this update to his sidebar:

Fortunately for America, though, liberal Jews there are rapidly dying out through intermarriage and failure to reproduce. And the quite poisonous liberal Jews of Israel are not much better off. Judaism is slowly returning to Orthodoxy and the Orthodox tend to be conservative.

This guy would be quite surprised to meet me and my family.

396 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:19:05pm

re: #388 Your ad could be here.

Since they claim that the strategy PDF is not their property, how can they force anyone to remove it?

They can demand people stop linking it to them, which means either removing it from an article about them or remove mention of them from an article about the pdf.

397 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:19:25pm

re: #395 Look At My Grandbaby!

This guy would be quite surprised to meet me and my family.

I'd be quite surprised to meet you and your family. We'd have to meet in a stadium or something.
;)

398 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:19:28pm

re: #391 Look At My Grandbaby!

I don't get the "sandwich board" thing they are hyperventilating over. Must have missed it. What is that all about?

It's about this: Fact Checking Breitbart's Camp Followers - the Sandwich Board Assumption.

Another deliberately dishonest fake outrage, intended to smear me and distract people from the real issues.

399 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:20:36pm

re: #391 Look At My Grandbaby!

I don't get the "sandwich board" thing they are hyperventilating over. Must have missed it. What is that all about?

Cardboard bread. Human sandwich filling.
Nothing more.

400 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:23:33pm

re: #398 Charles Johnson

It's about this: Fact Checking Breitbart's Camp Followers - the Sandwich Board Assumption.

Another deliberately dishonest fake outrage, intended to smear me and distract people from the real issues.

They also ignore that Anthony Cumia, who took that pic of Coulter, is the one who said it was her looking at the Wiener pic which he later stole. Tell Breitbart to take his issues up with O&A. They'd love to fight with him about it.

402 Obdicut  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:28:16pm

re: #395 Look At My Grandbaby!

This guy would be quite surprised to meet me and my family.

He's also one of those creeps who knows enough about Jews to be really nasty about them. I mean, using 'stiff-necked' as an insult (as it's the only descriptor given to the Israelites in the Torah-- shows that bizarre mix of fascination with Jews and loathing for them.

403 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:29:30pm

Going forward, I will be referring to this candidate as Inquisitor Santorum.

404 Obdicut  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:29:39pm

re: #401 Slumbering Behemoth

PeTA strikes yet another brain-dead, tone deaf chord.

Yeah, if Sea World is slavery, then we ought to be arresting most animals for rape, and predators for murder.

Buncha chowderheads.

405 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:29:44pm

re: #402 Obdicut

He's also one of those creeps who knows enough about Jews to be really nasty about them. I mean, using 'stiff-necked' as an insult (as it's the only descriptor given to the Israelites in the Torah-- shows that bizarre mix of fascination with Jews and loathing for them.

I've never heard that one before. What's it in reference to?

406 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:29:47pm

re: #401 Slumbering Behemoth

PeTA strikes yet another brain-dead, tone deaf chord.

Great continuation of the freaks theme!

407 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:30:28pm

re: #400 KT Smells like Roses and Rainbows

They also ignore that Anthony Cumia, who took that pic of Coulter, is the one who said it was her looking at the Wiener pic which he later stole. Tell Breitbart to take his issues up with O&A. They'd love to fight with him about it.

Lee Stranahan actually started a page at Kickstarter to solicit donations for a film titled "The Decline and Fall of Little Green Footballs."

[Link: www.kickstarter.com...]

Total scam. I hope none of those people who signed up ever actually gave him money for this bogus project.

Actually, I hope they did - it would serve them right.

408 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:30:57pm

re: #402 Obdicut

But don't you know, he actually loves'em!

My (Gentile) opinion of antisemitism: The Jews are the best we've got so killing them is killing us.

Kinda inconsistent.

409 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:31:48pm

re: #408 Your ad could be here.

But don't you know, he actually loves'em!

Kinda inconsistent.

WTF does that even mean?

410 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:32:26pm

re: #407 Charles Johnson

I don't think irrelevant means what they think it means.

411 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:33:18pm

re: #409 Kragar

It's the Breivik logic. Jews are the best, but liberal Jews are the worst.
---
Unsurprisingly, this guy has attacked LGF on numerous occassions.

412 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:33:48pm

re: #410 Oppressed White Male

I think you didn't mean to downding that ;)

413 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:34:21pm

re: #410 Oppressed White Male

I don't think irrelevant means what they think it means.

You done downdinged Charles.

414 Obdicut  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:34:36pm

re: #405 CuriousLurker

I've never heard that one before. What's it in reference to?

The exact meaning of it is, of course, under heavy debate, but after Aaron fashions the golden calf God gets wicked pissed, and says that he's seen this people and they're stiff-necked. Later Moses says, yes, they're stiff-necked, but asks god to still forgive them and come among them and accept them as his people.

Some scholars see the stiff-neckedness as a reason being given for god to be lenient, others see it as a "despite the fact they're stiff-necked, please still forgive them and accept them", others see it is both positive and negative-- God is saying the Jews are a pain in the ass and hard to get through to, but obviously that means once he does they'd be obstinant about their new faith, too.

Some others see stiff-necked as an attribute applying to all of humanity, not just Jews.

It's the only real descriptor given of Jews (assuming it is of Jews and not of all people) in the Torah.

415 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:35:22pm

re: #412 Your ad could be here.

I think you didn't mean to downding that ;)

These buttons are pretty close together for tablet use!

416 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:35:45pm

re: #406 Your ad could be here.

Great continuation of the freaks theme!

Hey, it takes one to know one.

/Wait, wha... fuck!

417 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:35:53pm

re: #415 Oppressed White Male

These buttons are pretty close together for tablet use!

Do they oppress you?//

418 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:38:29pm

re: #417 Your ad could be here.

Do they oppress you?//

I am still just a rat in a cage. :'(

419 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:39:03pm

re: #414 Obdicut

The exact meaning of it is, of course, under heavy debate, but after Aaron fashions the golden calf and God gets wicked pissed, and says that he's seen this people and they're stiff-necked. Later Moses says, yes, they're stiff-necked, but asks god to still forgive them and come among them and forgive them.

Some scholars see the stiff-neckedness as a reason being given for god to be lenient, others see it as a "despite the fact they're stiff-necked, please still forgive them and accept them", others see it is both positive and negative-- God is saying the Jews are a pain in the ass and hard to get through to, but obviously that means once he does they'd be obstinant about their new faith, too.

Some others see stiff-necked as an attribute applying to all of humanity, not just Jews.

It's the only real descriptor given of Jews (assuming it is of Jews and not of all people) in the Torah.

So basically it means proud, as in stubborn/unbending, like when Emiliano Zapata said, "It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." Right?

420 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:39:27pm

re: #401 Slumbering Behemoth

PeTA strikes yet another brain-dead, tone deaf chord.

I {heart} Wyatt Cenac!

421 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:40:34pm

re: #402 Obdicut

He's also one of those creeps who knows enough about Jews to be really nasty about them. I mean, using 'stiff-necked' as an insult (as it's the only descriptor given to the Israelites in the Torah-- shows that bizarre mix of fascination with Jews and loathing for them.

"Stiff-necked" means stubborn and proud. It's not an insult.

422 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:40:35pm

re: #417 Your ad could be here.

Do they oppress you?//

Also, any suggestion that my fat fingers might be to blame will be seen as a violation of my... something.

423 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:41:00pm

re: #419 CuriousLurker

So basically it means proud, as in stubborn/unbending, like when Emiliano Zapata said, "It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." Right?

Reminds me of one of my favorite exchanges in Catch 22:

Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
Capt. Nately: How do you know?
Old man in whorehouse: Because I am 107-years-old. How old are you?
Capt. Nately: I'll be 20 in January.
Old man in whorehouse: If you live.

424 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:41:08pm

re: #414 Obdicut

re: #419 CuriousLurker

So basically it means proud, as in stubborn/unbending, like when Emiliano Zapata said, "It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." Right?

And I assume in the sense that jerk was using it, it means Jews think they're better than everyone else and are above the rules, no?

426 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:41:43pm

re: #419 CuriousLurker

So basically it means proud, as in stubborn/unbending, like when Emiliano Zapata said, "It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." Right?

That's what I said before I said it. :)

427 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:42:00pm

re: #423 goddamnedfrank

Reminds me of one of my favorite exchanges in Catch 22:

Hahahaha!

428 Obdicut  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:43:00pm

re: #419 CuriousLurker

So basically it means proud, as in stubborn/unbending, like when Emiliano Zapata said, "It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." Right?

Well, that's one interpretation, but it could also just mean 'mired in tradition' or 'not open to new ideas' or 'unwilling to change based on evidence'. There's a lot of debate. It probably doesn't mean proud and independent, since the description is being given after the Jews, frightened by God (and Moses's) absence, get Aaron to create the calf as the emblem of a deity they can worship-- not a very independent-minded thing to do. I think it's more likely a descriptor that the the Jews are traditional, and come from a polytheistic tradition and so adjusting to a monotheistic (or at least, if not believing only in one god only giving worship to one god) religion is going to be difficult. But-- and this is my preferred interpretation-- it also means once they have converted, they'll be quite steadfast in their new faith.

429 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:43:13pm

re: #424 CuriousLurker

re: #419 CuriousLurker

And I assume in the sense that jerk was using it, it means Jews think they're better than everyone else and are above the rules, no?

No, he meant they're stubborn in being on the left, voting "with their emotions".

430 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:43:42pm

re: #425 Somalia: Libertarian Paradise

Fox's Trotta Defends Remarks On Women In Military, Claims Pentagon Spreads "Dishonest Fairy Tales About Female Heroism"
Derp.

You'd have to go to Vietnam to find someone who thinks less of our troops than this woman does.

431 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:43:51pm

re: #428 Obdicut

re: #429 Your ad could be here.

Okay, got it. Thanks!

432 Interesting Times  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:44:17pm
433 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:44:35pm

re: #383 Your ad could be here.

Since we're on a freak binge, I noticed that a prominent Aussie idjit John Jay Ray, who likes to accuse "the Left" of antisemitism and was one of the first to claim that the Nazis were "Leftists" has made this update to his sidebar:

Damn. That's some evil shit right there.

434 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:44:42pm

re: #429 Your ad could be here.

Fer cryin' out loud, STOP CHANGING YOU NIC!!!

435 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:44:45pm

re: #419 CuriousLurker

So basically it means proud, as in stubborn/unbending, like when Emiliano Zapata said, "It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." Right?

You're gonna make me link that Neurosis song.

436 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:45:01pm

re: #429 Your ad could be here.

No, he meant they're stubborn in being on the left, voting "with their emotions".

There seems to be a disconnect in the minds of some on the right about what is and is not emotional.

437 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:45:19pm

re: #434 CuriousLurker

Fer cryin' out loud, STOP CHANGING YOU NIC!!!

NO U

438 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:45:29pm

re: #424 CuriousLurker

re: #419 CuriousLurker

And I assume in the sense that jerk was using it, it means Jews think they're better than everyone else and are above the rules, no?

I don't know what sense the jerk was using it, but anti-Semites think that "Jews think they're better than everyone else and are above the rules" you know, like they can read our cunning, devious, brilliant minds.

Even if they could read our minds, it would be totally way above their reading comprehension level.

I'm also lately seeing a lot of anti-Semitic memes on Israeli news sites, in which the "Haredim" are what "Jews" are to anti-Semites. It's creepy, scary, and annoying as fuck.

439 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:45:53pm

re: #432 Interesting Times

I missed that. WTF was that about?

440 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:45:59pm

re: #433 Gus

Damn. That's some evil shit right there.

Search his blogs for lgf, get a chuckle. He got really butthurt in 2007 when Charles began kicking the fascist butts.

441 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:46:22pm

re: #439 Slumbering Behemoth

I missed that. WTF was that about?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

442 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:46:57pm

re: #440 Your ad could be here.

Search his blogs for lgf, get a chuckle. He got really butthurt in 2007 when Charles began kicking the fascist butts.

I remember that loser. Just another post-911 weirdo and dictator wannabe.

443 Obdicut  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:47:24pm

re: #421 Look At My Grandbaby!

"Stiff-necked" means stubborn and proud. It's not an insult.

Well, I think there, as usual, is a healthy debate about what it means-- and whether God and Moses mean the same thing when they say it, too.

It comes up one more time, I think, only, when they're about to fight the Caanites and Moses reminds them of it in a pep-talk, that they're doing this for their ancestors and they had a covenant with God and God would be on their side in the battle because he'd agreed to it long ago, in that deal with Moses.

444 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:47:46pm

re: #434 CuriousLurker

Fer cryin' out loud, STOP CHANGING YOU NIC!!!

What for? :)

445 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:48:36pm

re: #438 Look At My Grandbaby!

I don't know what sense the jerk was using it, but anti-Semites think that "Jews think they're better than everyone else and are above the rules" you know, like they can read our cunning, devious, brilliant minds.

Yeah, that exactly why I brought up that part, because I've heard it before.

Even if they could read our minds, it would be totally way above their reading comprehension level.

I'm also lately seeing a lot of anti-Semitic memes on Israeli news sites, in which the "Haredim" are what "Jews" are to anti-Semites. t's creepy, scary, and annoying as fuck.

Ugh. That is creepy.

446 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:50:13pm

re: #437 Somalia: Libertarian Paradise

NO U

I actually like yours. It makes me smile. ;)

447 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:50:13pm

re: #439 Slumbering Behemoth

I missed that. WTF was that about?

Hoekstra campaign started writing ESPN headlines...

448 Lidane  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:51:43pm

re: #425 Somalia: Libertarian Paradise

Fox's Trotta Defends Remarks On Women In Military, Claims Pentagon Spreads "Dishonest Fairy Tales About Female Heroism"
Derp.

I'll bet there are plenty of women that are currently deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan who would love to discuss this with Liz Trotta while shoving their boots up her ass. =P

449 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:52:39pm

re: #441 Somalia: Libertarian Paradise

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Ah, thanks. I thought the slur was spelled ending with a 'c' rather than a 'k'.

Anyway, here's some related SNL...

450 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:52:45pm

re: #441 Somalia: Libertarian Paradise

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

W? T? F? *shakes head, throws hands in air*

451 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:53:34pm

Wasn't Limboob once fired from ESPN for racism?

452 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:54:07pm

re: #451 Your ad could be here.

Wasn't Limboob once fired from ESPN for racism?

The "bone through the nose" thing?

453 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:54:40pm

re: #452 Gus

I don't remember.

454 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:55:37pm

The NFL is desperate for a black quarterback to do well...

455 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:55:38pm

Ah. Horse's mouth:

[Link: espn.go.com...]

456 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:55:48pm

re: #453 Your ad could be here.

I don't remember.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

457 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:56:34pm

re: #451 Your ad could be here.

Wasn't Limboob once fired from ESPN for racism?

Rush Limbaugh 2003 ESPN Comments on Donovan McNabb (COMPLETE w/ TRANSCRIPT)

Youtube Video
458 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:56:37pm

re: #451 Your ad could be here.

Wasn't Limboob once fired from ESPN for racism?

Yes..I saw it that Sunday Morning years ago.. A few years ago Rush Wanted to invest as an owner in the SL Rams. Nobody in the NFL would allow it..Turned down his damn money.

459 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:56:45pm

What right wing racism?

Gawd these people are a trip.

460 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:56:45pm

re: #454 Oppressed White Male

The NFL is desperate for a black quarterback to do well...

Right, I remember that now.

461 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:56:54pm

re: #454 Oppressed White Male
I think that was it.

462 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:57:58pm

Yes, the bone-through-the-nose thing was a completely unrelated racist comment...

463 labman57  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:58:47pm

Santorum appears to believe that the Biblical "Forbidden Tree of Knowledge" is a metaphor for scientific literacy and preventative health care. Prenatal testing is simply an example of taking a bite of the apple -- a sin to be sure.

464 Lidane  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:59:36pm

This is awesome. I love George Takei:

[Link: www.allegiancemusical.com...]

465 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 5:59:44pm

re: #463 labman57

Santorum appears to believe that the Biblical "Forbidden Tree of Knowledge" is a metaphor for scientific literacy and preventative health care. Prenatal testing is simply an example of taking a bite of the apple -- a sin to be sure.

Can I get another apple?
No, two?

466 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:00:37pm

re: #462 Oppressed White Male

Yes, the bone-through-the-nose thing was a completely unrelated racist comment...

In which he said "take that bone out of your nose and call me back". This was reported by Newsday and he acknowledged it according to Snopes.

467 Kragar  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:00:58pm

re: #463 labman57

Santorum appears to believe that the Biblical "Forbidden Tree of Knowledge" is a metaphor for scientific literacy and preventative health care. Prenatal testing is simply an example of taking a bite of the apple -- a sin to be sure.

I fucking love apples.

468 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:01:09pm

re: #463 labman57

Santorum appears to believe that the Biblical "Forbidden Tree of Knowledge" is a metaphor for scientific literacy and preventative health care. Prenatal testing is simply an example of taking a bite of the apple -- a sin to be sure.

Inquisitor Santorum thinks there's no need for families to prepare themselves for special needs children.

Hey, didn't Sarah Palin have herself one of those pre-natal screenings?

469 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:02:25pm

re: #465 Somalia: Libertarian Paradise

Can I get another apple?
No, two?

Yes. Take three. Coz the forbidden fruit is a fig anyway.//

470 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:04:42pm

Ha! Washington Times.

Obama is America's Lenin

More dumb Confederate analogies.

471 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:04:52pm

re: #464 Lidane

This is awesome. I love George Takei:

[Link: www.allegiancemusical.com...]

Wow, I never knew that about him.

472 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:05:42pm

re: #470 Gus

They misspelled "Lennon".
/kidding

473 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:06:32pm

Ugh. BIAB

474 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:06:52pm

re: #470 Gus

Ha! Washington Times.

Obama is America's Lenin

More dumb Confederate analogies.

Vladimir Ilyich Obama, nice to meet you!

475 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:07:01pm

re: #467 Kragar

Just small enough for you to fit your.. aw fuck it, never mind.

476 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:10:16pm

re: #464 Lidane

This is awesome. I love George Takei:

[Link: www.allegiancemusical.com...]

Apology musical tour!1!

477 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:13:50pm

Right Wing Watch seems to have gone tits up.

478 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:18:16pm

re: #477 Slumbering Behemoth

No, wait, there it is. Several time outs, now taking forever to load.

479 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:18:30pm

re: #477 Slumbering Behemoth

Right Wing Watch seems to have gone tits up.

You have a way with the words, don't you? :D

480 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:20:23pm

re: #479 Your ad could be here.

I could use "nuts up" if you prefer.
:P

481 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:21:25pm

re: #480 Slumbering Behemoth

I could use "nuts up" if you prefer.
:P

That's... a strange position to be in. //

482 Mocking Jay  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:21:55pm

re: #480 Slumbering Behemoth

I could use "nuts up" if you prefer.
:P

I don't bend that way.

483 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:22:02pm

re: #480 Slumbering Behemoth

I could use "nuts up" if you prefer.
:P

I sleep on my side!

484 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:22:50pm

re: #482 I Am Jack's Medulla Oblongata

You will when you join The Choir Invisible.

485 Gus  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:23:19pm

re: #480 Slumbering Behemoth

I could use "nuts up" if you prefer.
:P

Sort of like ice cold pool water.

//

486 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:24:49pm

re: #485 Gus

I WAS IN THE POOL!!!

487 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:52:23pm

re: #479 Your ad could be here.

You have a way with the words, don't you? :D

Sergey, It comes from this:

[Link: images.search.yahoo.com...]

When you go "Tits up", you are upside down. Bad thing.

488 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 19, 2012 6:55:22pm

re: #487 austin_blue

Sergey, It comes from this:

[Link: images.search.yahoo.com...]

When you go "Tits up", you are upside down. Bad thing.

I learned something today!

489 Neo_  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 8:30:43am

What Progressives should stay up nights thinking about is once they make the test for certain medical procedures and drugs up to the federal government, all it will take is an anti-abortion President to shut it all down. Roe v Wade will mean nothing once the government is already involved in the choice abrogating any claim of privacy.

490 carlaschluge  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 8:51:33am

Hey Rick. Prenatal screening encourages abortion?! Pretty big jump in logic there. How about prenatal screening enabling early medical treatment before birth? How about prenatal screening preparing new parents for a challenged baby before its born? How about letting parents make a very personal and informed decision about their, and possibly their child's, future?

At this rate, President Obama just needs to sit back and enjoy his popcorn while the economy improves and the Republicans lose the independent voters!


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