CNN’s Dana Loesch Attacks VP Joe Biden for a Typo in a Press Release

Loesch is going for the wingnut gold
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Raving wingnut CNN contributor Dana Loesch is really going for the Incredibly Stupid Post prize of the day with her latest ridiculous fake outrage: The New “Potatoe?” Biden to Visit “Road Island”.

The first sentence is definitely the funniest thing I’ve read today; Loesch thinks Dan Quayle is “an exceptionally bright man.” You can’t write inadvertent wingnut comedy like this.

Dan Quayle is actually an exceptionally bright man who had an unfortunate mishap at the chalkboard with an unnecessary vowel. Joe Biden, the fun Homer Simpson of the Obama Administration, has suffered far greater gaffes; the latest from the administration on his behalf. Two words: “Road Island.”

Here’s what she’s getting her loony audience worked up about: a White House press release that misspelled “Rhode Island” as “Road Island.” Yes, really. Does she think Biden wrote the press release himself?

Actually, I could stop at, “Does she think?”

In the infamous Dan Quayle “potatoe” incident, Quayle told a student that he had misspelled “potato” and needed to add an “e.” In this absurd wingnut nontroversy, some unknown staffer probably relied too much on spell check.

I’d say, “One of these things is not like the other,” but that would be quoting the Muppets, and as we all know, those diabolical puppets are brainwashing children to be socialists.

This is the kind of rubbish hacks like Loesch pump out every single day of the year.

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100 comments
1 Kragar  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:36:17pm

As I'm reading this, the perfect Lily Allen song came on Pandora

2 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:37:36pm

Actually, Dan Quayle is an "exceptionally bright man" when compared to the current crop of GOP candidates.

3 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:37:40pm

Anything to keep the "Outrage-O-Meter" of her audience well into the red.

4 Obdicut  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:39:04pm

I didn't think Quayle's fuckup was that big a deal. I did think him saying that his parents pressured him into politics and he'd rather be a golfer was a rather candid admission from someone seeking office. Bright or not bright, he just didn't seem to have any seriousness to him.

I also wish Biden would put a shirt on.

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

5 jaunte  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:40:50pm

U.S. Vice Presidents are famous for typing up press releases in Dana's Magical Imaginarium.

6 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:41:56pm

Loesch is also pushing the latest right wing talking point about the Virginia ultrasound law hard -- that the law does not mandate trans-vaginal ultrasound.

It's true that the bill does not specifically use that phrase. However, the vast majority of abortions happen in the first trimester, and the only kind of ultrasound that is performed in the first trimester is an invasive trans-vaginal ultrasound. When you mandate ultrasound procedures for all women who seek abortions, this means that the majority of them will be forced to undergo this GOP state rape.

She's deliberately misleading people again.

7 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:42:33pm

an unfortunate mishap at the chalkboard with an unnecessary vowel

and yet the nation of france manages to survive despite this debilitating condition

8 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:42:41pm

And while we're on the subject of Dana Loesch, allow me to present the following comment-win from the Wonkette thread on her ultrasound ugliness:

Gee, I hope they make a butt-plug with imaging capabilities so she can find her head.

9 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:43:45pm

So - Gleick admits to obtaining the Heartland documents, but not creating a "fake."

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

10 nines09  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:44:17pm

I keep reading she's a "contributor." Just what does she contribute? I could get real snarky here but I'll pass. She's a loon.

11 erik_t  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:45:04pm

Zero fucks given, Dana.

Wonder how many bucks per word she got for this exciting and world-changing piece of literature. As in, 'watch out, don't step in the dog literature'.

12 elisabeth  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:46:19pm

Heh ~ I heart Joe but someone needs to proofread the press releases better. (And I'll assume in the absence of any proof to the contrary that VP Biden does in fact know how to spell the State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations.")

13 jaunte  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:47:34pm

re: #10 Are You A Mike Huckabee Burned Down House?

I keep reading she's a "contributor." Just what does she contribute?

"The rattling of a stick in a swill bucket."

14 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:48:54pm

OK, this is pretty cool - the originator of the term "Godwin" has retweeted my Rick Santorum post:

15 Renaissance_Man  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:52:13pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Loesch is also pushing the latest right wing talking point about the Virginia ultrasound law hard -- that the law does not mandate trans-vaginal ultrasound.

It's true that the bill does not specifically use that phrase. However, the vast majority of abortions happen in the first trimester, and the only kind of ultrasound that is performed in the first trimester is an invasive trans-vaginal ultrasound. When you mandate ultrasound procedures for all women who seek abortions, this means that the majority of them will be forced to undergo this GOP state rape.

She's deliberately misleading people again.

Actually, that's not specifically true either. Most prenatal ultrasounds, even in the first trimester, are typical external ultrasounds. These are more than enough to see things like fetal heartbeat and so on, which is all that's generally needed.

TVUS is used for very specific things, such as measuring exact cervical thickness or for very specific prenatal testing where precise measurements are needed. You wouldn't use TVUS in pregnancy on any sort of routine basis because of the increased infective risk.

I don't particularly care if the law mandates TVUS or not. The point of the law is to shame women, and the very principle of forcing an unnecessary medical procedure, imposing direct, heavy-handed state interference in the physician-patient relationship, is repugnant. To do so for no medical benefit and solely out of a desire to shame women is evil. And it doesn't matter if the unnecessary procedure is invasive or not.

16 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:54:16pm

Dana Loesch = professional troll

17 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:54:21pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Loesch is also pushing the latest right wing talking point about the Virginia ultrasound law hard -- that the law does not mandate trans-vaginal ultrasound.

It's true that the bill does not specifically use that phrase. However, the vast majority of abortions happen in the first trimester, and the only kind of ultrasound that is performed in the first trimester is an invasive trans-vaginal ultrasound. When you mandate ultrasound procedures for all women who seek abortions, this means that the majority of them will be forced to undergo this GOP state rape.

She's deliberately misleading people again.

Yep, which is why such bills will go hand-in-hand with the "heartbeat" ones, as you can mandate that abortions must happen so early in the pregnancy that the trans-vaginal ultrasound is the only option.

That's the name of the game: if they can't make it illegal, they'll make it virtually impossible to obtain.

18 celticdragon  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:54:47pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

OK, this is pretty cool - the originator of the term "Godwin" has retweeted my Rick Santorum post:

[Video]

You see, he wasn't comparing Obama to Hitler at all...

He was comparing Obama to Generalissmo Franco...or maybe Charles de Gaul...

Yeah, that must be it.
//

19 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:54:50pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Loesch is also pushing the latest right wing talking point about the Virginia ultrasound law hard -- that the law does not mandate trans-vaginal ultrasound.

It's true that the bill does not specifically use that phrase. However, the vast majority of abortions happen in the first trimester, and the only kind of ultrasound that is performed in the first trimester is an invasive trans-vaginal ultrasound. When you mandate ultrasound procedures for all women who seek abortions, this means that the majority of them will be forced to undergo this GOP state rape.

She's deliberately misleading people again.

Here is the bill:

Abortion; informed consent. Requires that, as a component of informed consent to an abortion, to determine gestation age, every pregnant female shall undergo ultrasound imaging and be given an opportunity to view the ultrasound image of her fetus prior to the abortion. The medical professional performing the ultrasound must obtain written certification from the woman that the opportunity was offered and whether the woman availed herself of the opportunity to see the ultrasound image or hear the fetal heartbeat. A copy of the ultrasound and the written certification shall be maintained in the woman's medical records at the facility where the abortion is to be performed. This bill incorporates SB 279 (Smith).

[Link: leg1.state.va.us...]

That bill also says that it passed both the House and Senate so I'm assuming it's already law. I thought I read the House walked out today, but here it says it passed.

At any rate, it certainly mandates the ultrasound. It doesn't mandate viewing the pictures, but this Slate article says:

What’s more, a provision of the law that has received almost no media attention would ensure that a certification by the doctor that the patient either did or didn’t “avail herself of the opportunity” to view the ultrasound or listen to the fetal heartbeat will go into the woman’s medical record. Whether she wants it there or not. I guess they were all out of scarlet letters in Richmond.

Would a woman know she had the right to deny seeing these pictures if she didn't ask?

It's all pretty horrifying.

20 nines09  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:55:27pm

re: #13 jaunte

"The rattling of a stick in a swill bucket."

As smart as a box of rocks?

21 Kragar  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:55:58pm

re: #18 celticdragon

You see, he wasn't comparing Obama to Hitler at all...

He was comparing Obama to Generalissmo Franco...or maybe Charles de Gaul...

Yeah, that must be it.
//

SANTORUM IS WARNING US ABOUT THE POPE!

22 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:57:28pm

re: #15 Renaissance_Man

Actually, that's not specifically true either. Most prenatal ultrasounds, even in the first trimester, are typical external ultrasounds. These are more than enough to see things like fetal heartbeat and so on, which is all that's generally needed.

I've been researching this, and that's not what I'm reading. For example: Early Ultrasound Results and Miscarriage.

In the first trimester, doctors usually use a transvaginal rather than abdominal ultrasound to gather information about the pregnancy. The transvaginal ultrasound provides the most accurate information in early pregnancy, given that the early developing gestational sac and fetal pole are extremely tiny at this point and a vaginal ultrasound can get closer to the developing pregnancy.

23 BongCrodny  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:57:48pm

re: #19 marjoriemoon

The medical professional performing the ultrasound must obtain written certification from the woman that the opportunity was offered and whether the woman availed herself of the opportunity to see the ultrasound image or hear the fetal heartbeat.

"I have here a list of women who did not even want to see their own child in the womb..."

24 jaunte  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:58:50pm

re: #19 marjoriemoon

I guess if the woman is blind, someone volunteers to give a dramatic reading.

25 celticdragon  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:59:17pm

re: #20 Are You A Mike Huckabee Burned Down House?

As smart as a box of rocks?

More like rock hammers.

Rocks are actually pretty effing cool when you look at thin sections of them under polarized light.

26 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 5:59:47pm

re: #4 Obdicut

I didn't think Quayle's fuckup was that big a deal. I did think him saying that his parents pressured him into politics and he'd rather be a golfer was a rather candid admission from someone seeking office. Bright or not bright, he just didn't seem to have any seriousness to him.

I also wish Biden would put a shirt on.

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

Quayle had an odd sense of humor that didn't always communicate very well.

27 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:01:06pm

re: #10 Are You A Mike Huckabee Burned Down House?

I keep reading she's a "contributor." Just what does she contribute? I could get real snarky here but I'll pass. She's a loon.

Believe it or not (I was rather shocked), she was on This Week Without Christianne Amanpour, But With George Stephanopolous not yesterday, but the week prior. Arianna Huffington was also on the panel. My perception of it was that Arianna handed her her ass on the contraception issue. You can watch it here.

Roundtable: Culture Wars Return?
George Will, Matthew Dowd, Arianna Huffington, and Dana Loesch.

I think they had Uncle Ron as the opener. This is the roundtable part, like 30 mins.

28 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:01:16pm

All through the Affordable Care Act fight, what did we hear? "We don't want the government between you and your doctor!"

Even now, as they bang the "Repeal" drum daily, what do they say? "The government shouldn't be between you and your doctor!"

And yet, what does the GOP do when it comes to abortion? Puts government between you and your doctor, because it "knows better."

The GOP and Romney are made for each other.

29 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:01:55pm

re: #26 SanFranciscoZionist

Quayle had an odd sense of humor that didn't always communicate very well.

Also, an inability to spell 'potato', which was exploited to great effect by the Idaho delegation at the 1992 DNC.

30 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:02:57pm

When Dan Quayle was VP, I used to follow him pretty closely because he constantly said outrageously stupid things that made me laugh. Sorry, but no one will ever be able to convince me that he was "exceptionally bright" -- he was a complete moron, chosen for the position because of his looks and nothing more.

31 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:03:56pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

When Dan Quayle was VP, I used to follow him pretty closely because he constantly said outrageously stupid things. Sorry, but no one will ever be able to convince me that he was "exceptionally bright" -- he was a complete moron, chosen for the position because of his looks and nothing more.

His nomination was in keeping with the tradition: Look at your Pres nominee and then find a potential VP that's pretty much his opposite in every way.

32 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:06:01pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

OK, this is pretty cool - the originator of the term "Godwin" has retweeted my Rick Santorum post:

Sweet! Paul Begala is no chopped liver either!

33 compound_Idaho  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:06:30pm

re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist

I am surprised Idaho even had a delegation to the DNC. I think you made that up. \

34 allegro  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:08:26pm

Wasn't Quayle chosen to get the women's vote? Cuz everyone knows women only vote for a guy's looks. Too stupid and flighty to pay attention to icky policy stuff.

35 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:08:58pm

re: #33 compound_Idaho

I am surprised Idaho even had a delegation to the DNC. I think you made that up.

"Here in Idaho...where we know how to spell potato..."

(Loud laughter from the audience.)

36 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:09:05pm

re: #9 Talking Point Detective

So - Gleick admits to obtaining the Heartland documents, but not creating a "fake."

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

The plot thickens. Sergey's "Rathergate" theory, i.e. that the "strategy" doc was a denier trick, makes sense if you suppose the anonymous snail-mailer of said doc hoped it would be released by Gleick immediately, all by its lonesome, so it could be righteously refuted as the Rathergate memo was. If that was indeed the strategy of the stragegy memo-mailer, he/she didn't count on Gleick soliciting additional authentic Heartland documents.

37 Renaissance_Man  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:09:56pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

I've been researching this, and that's not what I'm reading. For example: Early Ultrasound Results and Miscarriage.

That is indeed what that says, but I'm not too sure about its accuracy. The ACOG (American College of OB/GYN) Best Practice guidelines, which is the definitive statement from the certifying board, states:

'Scanning in the first trimester may be performed either transabdominally or transvaginally. If a transabdominal examination is not definitive,
a transvaginal scan or transperineal scan should be performed whenever possible.'

I don't know if there are practices out there that routinely perform first trimester TVUS. I would think it unlikely, mostly because women hate TVUS and nobody's really interested in having your patients hate you. From personal experience, I've worked in 3 or 4 OB clinics and in half a dozen emergency rooms, and done about fifty or so first trimester US, none of which have been TV. There's never been any reason to do one.

38 ProMayaLiberal  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:10:06pm

Out of curiosity from looking at Jeff Master's Blog, I looked at FEMA Emergency Declarations after Hurricane Katrina.

4 States were direct injured. (Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana)

42 Other states had emergency declarations as a result of the evacuation.

The only states that were not put under Emergency Declaration were Wyoming, Vermont, Hawaii, and Alaska.

39 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:10:30pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

I've been researching this, and that's not what I'm reading. For example: Early Ultrasound Results and Miscarriage.

Well I can see where it would have a benefit. You do want to know the fetus is within the first trimester. There have been errors and in the larger, medical scope of things, the more info you can have the better.

I am actually more objectionable to the mandatory bit of it, but on the other hand, if your doctor is concerned you may be over 3 months, it wouldn't be bad to have the procedure.

What I vehemently reject are viewing the pictures or using the information in any way aside from determining length of gestation.

40 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:11:28pm

re: #23 BongCrodny

"I have here a list of women who did not even want to see their own child in the womb..."

It's so bizarre. What in the world does this information mean for a woman's HEALTH? It means nothing.

41 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:12:18pm

re: #39 marjoriemoon

The bottom line on these forced ultrasound laws is simple -- whether trans-vaginal or not, the intent is to shame and humiliate women out of choosing abortions. It's just disgusting, on any level.

42 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:14:00pm

And the idea that the government is going to step in and MANDATE a medical procedure, whether necessary or not, is just repellent.

The Republican Party is really crossing the line with this one, and it's going to hurt them.

43 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:14:16pm

re: #34 allegro

Wasn't Quayle chosen to get the women's vote? Cuz everyone knows women only vote for a guy's looks. Too stupid and flighty to pay attention to icky policy stuff.

Looks always help, man or woman.

44 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:14:37pm

re: #40 marjoriemoon

It's so bizarre. What in the world does this information mean for a woman's HEALTH? It means nothing.

The assumption, at least the least creepy assumption, is that more women will decide to continue the pregnancy if they can be made to see the fetal development.

And there's some pretty creepy undertones there, so when I say 'least creepy', I mean this is less creepy than "We just want to harass people who are planning to have abortions."

45 erik_t  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:15:08pm

re: #43 marjoriemoon

Looks always help, man or woman.

Chris Christie is intrigued and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

46 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:15:50pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

And the idea that the government is going to step in and MANDATE a medical procedure, whether necessary or not, is just repellent.

The Republican Party is really crossing the line with this one, and it's going to hurt them.

Yes, absolutely.

47 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:16:19pm
48 Renaissance_Man  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:18:39pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

The bottom line on these forced ultrasound laws is simple -- whether trans-vaginal or not, the intent is to shame and humiliate women out of choosing abortions. It's just disgusting, on any level.

re: #42 Charles Johnson

And the idea that the government is going to step in and MANDATE a medical procedure, whether necessary or not, is just repellent.

The Republican Party is really crossing the line with this one, and it's going to hurt them.

Precisely. That's the truly disgusting part of this law.

Splitting hairs over forcing a regular ultrasound versus an invasive one is like arguing over what colour shackles you should enslave with. The point is, it's tremendous governmental overreach, and not for a benevolent purpose. It's done only with harm in mind.

49 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:21:17pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

And the idea that the government is going to step in and MANDATE a medical procedure, whether necessary or not, is just repellent.

The Republican Party is really crossing the line with this one, and it's going to hurt them.

I think that the GOP is pushing this shit is proof that all the "outrage" over the Affordable Care Act is bullshit. They don't have a problem with "big government," they just want to be the ones calling the shots.

50 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:22:02pm

Sorry for the OT, but HOLY SHIT!

Dead for 32,000 Years, an Arctic Plant Is Revived

Living plants have been generated from the fruit of a little arctic flower, the narrow-leafed campion, that died 32,000 years ago, a team of Russian scientists reports. The fruit was stored by an arctic ground squirrel in its burrow on the tundra of northeastern Siberia and lay permanently frozen until excavated by scientists a few years ago.

This would be the oldest plant by far that has ever been grown from ancient tissue. The present record is held by a date palm grown from a seed some 2,000 years old that was recovered from the ancient fortress of Masada in Israel.
---
The new report is by a team led by Svetlana Yashina and David Gilichinsky of the Russian Academy of Sciences research center at Pushchino, near Moscow, and appears in Tuesday’s issue of The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America.

I was trying to think of something clever to write here, but I am just going to quote Lizard "Imp_62" from this page, as it sums up my concerns perfectly...

So, so cool. A science fiction future gets closer with every one of these developments. But I am always given pause to wonder where our educational system will position our students - at the top or at the bottom of the new economic food chain.

51 jaunte  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:22:34pm

re: #50 Slumbering Behemoth

Ancient Squirrel!

52 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:23:04pm

re: #51 jaunte

Ancient Squirrel!

And moose?

//

53 jaunte  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:24:40pm

The Republican party would raise holy hell about a mandatory weigh-in, if it affected them.

54 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:25:57pm

re: #44 SanFranciscoZionist

The assumption, at least the least creepy assumption, is that more women will decide to continue the pregnancy if they can be made to see the fetal development.

And there's some pretty creepy undertones there, so when I say 'least creepy', I mean this is less creepy than "We just want to harass people who are planning to have abortions."

Well, that's it. Isn't it in Kansas? Before a woman can have an abortion at Planned Parenthood, she has to sit through 3 days of religious right indoctrination, including viewing photos of fetuses.

They can't overturn Roe v Wade, so this is what they do.

I'm very happy for the wad of cash ($4 million?) that Planned Parenthood got the other week. They really need the money for lawyers.

55 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:25:57pm

re: #51 jaunte

Discovered by Russians, no less.

I didn't see the names "Boris" or "Natasha" mentioned, but I am suspicious.

56 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:28:19pm

re: #45 erik_t

Chris Christie is intrigued and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

I'm thinking what the opposition must have looked like!

Seriously, good-lookin is always an asset. It's not a necessity.

57 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:30:24pm

re: #25 celticdragon

More like rock hammers.

Rocks are actually pretty effing cool when you look at thin sections of them under polarized light.

"look at me, ma - i'm igneous!!"

58 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:30:59pm

Bill Clinton? Women became interested in politics for the first time because he was so hot.

59 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:33:19pm
Dan Quayle is actually an exceptionally bright man who had an unfortunate mishap at the chalkboard with an unnecessary vowel.

Izzat so, Dana? The following is a list of statements that can be attributed to Dan, from Snopes...

"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child."

"Welcome to President Bush, Mrs. Bush, and my fellow astronauts."

"Mars is essentially in the same orbit . . . Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe."

"What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is."

"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century."

"I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy - but that could change."

"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is 'to be prepared.'"

"Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things."

"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."

"The future will be better tomorrow."

"We're going to have the best-educated American people in the world."

"People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history."

"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."

"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe."

"I am not part of the problem. I am a Republican."

"I love California, I practically grew up in Phoenix."

"When I have been asked during these last weeks who caused the riots and the killing in L.A., my answer has been direct and simple: Who is to blame for the riots? The rioters are to blame. Who is to blame for the killings? The killers are to blame."

"Illegitimacy is something we should talk about in terms of not having it."

"We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur."

"For NASA, space is still a high priority."

"Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children."

"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."

60 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:34:31pm

re: #57 engineer cat

"look at me, ma - i'm igneous!!"

Not a quality you should take for granite.

61 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:35:43pm

re: #58 marjoriemoon

Bill Clinton? Women became interested in politics for the first time because he was so hot.

Soccer moms carried the Day for Bill.. It's surprising no one courts that demographic anymore.

62 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:37:41pm

re: #61 Slumdog Millionaire

Soccer moms carried the Day for Bill.. It's surprising no one courts that demographic anymore.

Oh honey, the GOP is playing with fire. I don't get it really. Women (black, white doesn't matter) vote at higher percentages than men. Our numbers are 10-20% higher. Why in the world would you purposefully piss off this demographic? I mean, works for me. I'm a Democrat.

63 Girth  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:38:49pm

re: #60 Slumbering Behemoth

Not a quality you should take for granite.

I'd like to echo that sediment.

64 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:39:41pm

re: #62 marjoriemoon

Oh honey, the GOP is playing with fire. I don't get it really. Women (black, white doesn't matter) vote at higher percentages than men. Our numbers are 10-20% higher. Why in the world would you purposefully piss off this demographic? I mean, works for me. I'm a Democrat.

Because they've got their Stepford Wives at their sides, telling them with glassy-eyed stares that it's actually "pro-woman" to slowly dismantle all the advances in equality of the last 50 years, because "equality" is an illusion and women were so much better when they were little more than glorified house pets.

65 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:40:06pm

re: #62 marjoriemoon

Oh honey, the GOP is playing with fire. I don't get it really. Women (black, white doesn't matter) vote at higher percentages than men. Our numbers are 10-20% higher. Why in the world would you purposefully piss off this demographic? I mean, works for me. I'm a Democrat.

It's not gonna piss off the entire demographic, just democrats and maybe some independents. I'm sure republican/wingnut women think they're better/smarter than the rest of that demographic.

66 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:40:16pm

re: #60 Slumbering Behemoth
Hmm. Rock puns. I am not taking anything for granite. Not unless you have diamonds, emeralds, rubies and/or sapphires.

67 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:41:05pm

re: #63 Girth

I'd like to echo that sediment.

A consensus is crystallizing here.

68 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:42:18pm

re: #50 Slumbering Behemoth

Sorry for the OT, but HOLY SHIT!

Dead for 32,000 Years, an Arctic Plant Is Revived

"The fruit was stored by an arctic ground squirrel in its burrow on the tundra of northeastern Siberia and lay permanently frozen until excavated by scientists a few years ago."

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69 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:42:29pm

re: #67 Slumbering Behemoth

A consensus is crystallizing here.

What are you fracking trying to say?

70 Kragar  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:42:31pm

re: #66 PhillyPretzel

Hmm. Rock puns. I am not taking anything for granite. Not unless you have diamonds, emeralds, rubies and/or sapphires.

I'm just going to sit back and marble.

71 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:42:32pm

re: #66 PhillyPretzel

Pipe down, greedy stoner.
/

72 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:43:27pm

re: #63 Girth

I'd like to echo that sediment.

You have to admit it looks gneiss though.

73 Big Steve  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:44:00pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

I've been researching this, and that's not what I'm reading. For example: Early Ultrasound Results and Miscarriage.

Has something changed on this in the last 20 years. When both my kids were conceived we had ultrasounds in the first trimester and both were the non-invasive type with the KY jelly and the probe on the belly type. But again this was 20 years ago so maybe it has changed.

74 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:44:47pm

re: #69 Slumdog Millionaire

What are you fracking trying to say?

Watch the language. You sound like a swashbuckling pyrite.

75 jaunte  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:45:00pm

re: #70 Kragar

Sometimes loess is moraine.

76 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:46:13pm

re: #75 jaunte

Sometimes loess is moraine.

A boulder statement was never made.

77 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:46:26pm

re: #74 Slumbering Behemoth
No. You watch your language you volcanic lava.

78 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:46:27pm

re: #64 Targetpractice

Because they've got their Stepford Wives at their sides, telling them with glassy-eyed stares that it's actually "pro-woman" to slowly dismantle all the advances in equality of the last 50 years, because "equality" is an illusion and women were so much better when they were little more than glorified house pets.

It's SO CRAZY. It's just not going to happen. We're not going to stand by and let it happen. And I guarantee someone(s) is going to fight the Virginia law. It can't stand.

Governor Skeletor Scott (FL), relying on false conclusions, decided that people collecting welfare needed to be drug tested. Unfortunately for him, it's unconstitutional and can't be enforced.
[Link: floridaindependent.com...]

79 Girth  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:48:08pm

re: #77 PhillyPretzel

No. You watch your language you volcanic lava.

Honey badger don't give a schist.

80 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:48:38pm

re: #65 Slumbering Behemoth

It's not gonna piss off the entire demographic, just democrats and maybe some independents. I'm sure republican/wingnut women think they're better/smarter than the rest of that demographic.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Women have come too far to be stuffed back in the box. And I know a lot of Republican women who this pisses off a great deal. Will they vote Obama? It's very possible.

81 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:50:03pm

re: #78 marjoriemoon

It's SO CRAZY. It's just not going to happen. We're not going to stand by and let it happen. And I guarantee someone(s) is going to fight the Virginia law. It can't stand.

Governor Skeletor Scott (FL), relying on false conclusions, decided that people collecting welfare needed to be drug tested. Unfortunately for him, it's unconstitutional and can't be enforced.
[Link: floridaindependent.com...]

Unfortunately, I don't think there's a means for women to challenge this law as patients, as I'm not aware of anything saying that preconditions to obtaining an abortion can't be applied. We're very likely going to have to wait until one or more doctors refuse to obey this law, likely losing their practices in the process, for there to be a real chance that it'll be overturned.

But, then again, that's really part of the intent of laws like this: getting it to the Supreme Court, with the hopes of finally overturned Roe v. Wade and letting them return to outright bans.

82 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:50:31pm

re: #77 PhillyPretzel

No. You watch your language you volcanic lava.

I shall exercise some magmanimity and ignore that insult.

83 compound_Idaho  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:51:34pm

re: #82 Slumbering Behemoth

I shale shall exercise some magmanimity and ignore that insult.

84 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:54:40pm

re: #82 Slumbering Behemoth
You are an alabaster. /

85 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:57:09pm

re: #83 compound_Idaho

Excellent, my good sir. I shall chalk that one up to your keen perception.

86 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:58:16pm

re: #81 Targetpractice

Unfortunately, I don't think there's a means for women to challenge this law as patients, as I'm not aware of anything saying that preconditions to obtaining an abortion can't be applied. We're very likely going to have to wait until one or more doctors refuse to obey this law, likely losing their practices in the process, for there to be a real chance that it'll be overturned.

But, then again, that's really part of the intent of laws like this: getting it to the Supreme Court, with the hopes of finally overturned Roe v. Wade and letting them return to outright bans.

Unless they can make a case that laws like this are meant to open a "side door" to abolish Roe v Wade. That women are specifically being targeted (they are) to prevent or undermine their own choices.

87 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 7:00:07pm

re: #84 PhillyPretzel

You are an alabaster. /

Your choice of words is utterly wrong, sir. Learn to picrite ones.

88 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 7:01:57pm

re: #87 Slumbering Behemoth
Word pyrite. You are taking all of the good ones. /

89 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 7:02:55pm

re: #59 Slumbering Behemoth

Izzat so, Dana? The following is a list of statements that can be attributed to Dan, from Snopes...

ROFL! What more do you want from Dana, the Rappin Hip Hop Sex Queen.

90 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 7:03:46pm

re: #88 PhillyPretzel

I basalt my puns on taking the good ones.

91 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 7:04:56pm

re: #90 Slumbering Behemoth
I have no time to clean your slate.

92 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 7:05:03pm

re: #89 marjoriemoon

ROFL! What more do you want from Dana, the Rappin Hip Hop Sex Queen.

An admission that she's in favor of using big gov't intrusion to violate the constitutional rights of American women.

93 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 7:05:43pm

Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

94 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 7:09:24pm

re: #92 Slumbering Behemoth

An admission that she's in favor of using big gov't intrusion to violate the constitutional rights of American women.

Please. She thinks Quayle was a genius! (She's not all that bright.)

95 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 7:09:28pm

re: #91 PhillyPretzel

I have no time to clean your slate.

If you simply aplite a little more thought to your positions, you might not be so admontite in holding to them.

96 Achilles Tang  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 7:12:56pm

re: #67 Slumbering Behemoth

A consensus is crystallizing here.

That's about as weighty as a snowflake.

97 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 7:13:11pm

re: #59 Slumbering Behemoth

Izzat so, Dana? The following is a list of statements that can be attributed to Dan, from Snopes...

"Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things."

I cannot argue with this.

98 Achilles Tang  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 7:13:48pm

Shit. Why always a new thread just when I come back to puns?

99 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 7:19:45pm

re: #59 Slumbering Behemoth

Izzat so, Dana? The following is a list of statements that can be attributed to Dan, from Snopes...

OK, my favorite Quayle joke--touching now that two of the people in it are gone:

George H.W. Bush, Dan Quayle, Pope John Paul II and the Lubavitcher Rebbe are on their way back from a peace conference, sharing a plane. As they talk, the pilot runs in and tells them, "This plane is on fire, and we're going to crash. Everyone needs to evacuate. However, I'm sorry to say that there are only four parachutes, and I'm taking one. Good luck, gentlemen."

He jumps out of the plane.

Dan Quayle jumps to his feet and says, "George Bush is the greatest president America ever had! He's a war hero! He will choose to go down with the plane! So I have to survive to succeed him!" He also jumps.

Bush leaps to his feet and says, "Hate to do this to you, but if I die, and that idiot lives, he's POTUS. Can't let that happen. Gotta jump."

He also jumps from the plane.

The Pope and the Rebbe look at one another in silence. Finally, the Pope says, "Menachem Mendel, let's be practical. You have no heir. If you die, your Chasidim will be left with no one to lead them. If I die, the College of Cardinals will pick another Pope. You should take the last parachute."

"I appreciate your generosity, Karol," says the Rebbe, "But we're both going to jump out of this plane with parachutes on."

"How?"

"Mr. Quayle jumped with my tallis bag."

100 ibob  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 8:47:51pm

re: #37 Renaissance_Man


As usual, I am late to the discussion. I have been in the Ob/Gyn field long enough that I remember when ultrasounds were performed like a regular X-ray- static picture only. Almost all of our first trimester ultrasounds are performed with the transvaginal probe since the pictures are so much better than the abdominal ultrasounds. Also, ultrasounds are usually not needed for first trimester terminations if the woman's dates match the exam size. Keep in mind, an elective abortion is nothing more than a suction D&C which the exact same procedure required for a spontaneous abortion(miscarriage). Obstetricians do tend to be fairly good at dating an early pregnancy by the size of the uterus on a pelvic exam making an ultrasound not usually required for an early termination.


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