Advertisers Bailing Out on Rush Limbaugh

Rush’s Rubicon
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In a career filled with ugliness of all kinds, Rush Limbaugh, de facto head of the right wing, may have finally crossed a line by saying something so blatantly repulsive and hateful that even his advertisers are bailing out.

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1 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:18:59am

Has he responded to a 'spokesman' for Boehner saying that his remarks were 'inappropriate' yet?

2 Kragar  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:19:02am

Rush's EIB network; Excrement is Broadcasting

3 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:19:13am

Wouldn't it be lovely if the pig had to issue an apology for a change?

4 celticdragon  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:19:54am

The perpetual right wing victim machine will swing into motion in 5..4..3..2...

Get ready for endless screaming over left wing hit jobs on Rush.

5 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:20:04am

I'll cheer when he loses them all...permanently.

6 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:20:17am

Of course Rush has been saying "feminazi" and other such vitriol for years. Not like anything said recently is new.

7 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:21:45am

Watch him and his supporters cry that his free speech is being violated.

8 Simply Sarah  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:22:25am

re: #6 Bulworth

Of course Rush has been saying "feminazi" and other such vitriol for years. Not like anything said recently is new.

Yep. Nothing new here. Just that this time people are paying attention and seem to care. If he'd stuck to calling her a feminazi, he'd probably not be in this position. People seem depressingly willing to tolerate and even cheer that term.

9 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:22:39am

re: #6 Bulworth

Of course Rush has been saying "feminazi" and other such vitriol for years. Not like anything said recently is new.

Well, when you choose to slur individual college students, that's a little different. That's what got Don Imus in hot water.

10 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:22:54am

Remember, the pig has an audience of 30 million people. For an advertiser, giving that up is no small thing.

11 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:23:36am

re: #8 Simply Sarah

Yep. Nothing new here. Just that this time people are paying attention and seem to care. If he'd stuck to calling her a feminazi, he'd probably not be in this position. People seem depressingly willing to tolerate and even cheer that term.

The term "feminazi" should be as odious as the N word.

12 calochortus  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:23:44am

And high time.

13 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:24:16am

re: #9 Youcan'ttouchthis

Well, when you choose to slur individual college students, that's a little different. That's what got Don Imus in hot water.

I think that's what gotten him in hot water this time. This isn't him attacking an abstract group but rather an individual and an individual that had wanted to testify on behalf of a friend who lost an ovary.Personally, I hope his career gets ruined because of this.

14 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:24:26am

Bedding industry: "Damnit Rush. We didn't mind all that other disgusting shit you said. But sexually active adults are some of our best customers!"

15 Simply Sarah  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:24:50am

re: #11 Bulworth

The term "feminazi" should be as odious as the N word.

While I'm not sure I'd go quite that far, it's pretty damn awful, yes.

16 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:25:47am

Feminazi is such a stupid term. Women seeking equality and respect are nothing like the Third Reich but Rush and the douchebag professor who popularized that term know this.

17 allegro  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:25:53am

My first thought is "Good for them!" my second is "What took them so damn long?"

18 calochortus  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:26:34am

Someone over FR is calling for an investigation of Sandra Fluke's bacgkground. This is getting amazingly ugly.

19 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:27:33am

re: #18 calochortus

Someone over FR is calling for an investigation of Sandra Fluke's bacgkground. This is getting amazingly ugly.

And these assholes complain about "big government", oh wait big government is terrible when it's done to expand health care and education but great for harassing a political opponent.

20 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:27:40am

"currently"
"suspend"

He will "apologize to those who may have been offended", or even better, he will be "sorry that you're offended" and they will resume advertising.

21 erik_t  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:27:40am

re: #18 calochortus

Someone over FR is calling for an investigation of Sandra Fluke's bacgkground. This is getting amazingly ugly.

Goddamned witch-hunt. Forward to the 17th Century!

22 calochortus  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:27:46am

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Feminazi is such a stupid term. Women seeking equality and respect are nothing like the Third Reich but Rush and the douchebag professor who popularized that term know this.

It is such a stupid term it is almost inoffensive. But no, people ought not use it.

23 jaunte  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:27:53am
24 Simply Sarah  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:27:58am

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Feminazi is such a stupid term. Women seeking equality and respect are nothing like the Third Reich but Rush and the douchebag professor who popularized that term know this.

Oh, you're being too politically correct. It's a perfect term for loud and angry women who don't know our place.
/

25 allegro  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:28:25am

re: #18 calochortus

Someone over FR is calling for an investigation of Sandra Fluke's bacgkground. This is getting amazingly ugly.

Though not unsurprisingly. These nasty bottom-feeding, scum-lickers are always looking to feast on tender flesh.

26 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:28:35am

re: #23 jaunte

He's getting pretty close to incitement.
Limbaugh Continues Hateful Assault On Sandra Fluke, Says She Needs To Have Less Sex

Maybe he should have less sex, that was a ton of Viagra he had on the trip to the D.R.

27 Simply Sarah  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:28:54am

re: #23 jaunte

He's getting pretty close to incitement.
Limbaugh Continues Hateful Assault On Sandra Fluke, Says She Needs To Have Less Sex

If you mean that it's getting pretty close to inciting me, then yes, it is.

28 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:30:06am

re: #15 Simply Sarah

While I'm not sure I'd go quite that far, it's pretty damn awful, yes.

It's also surprising how many self described "Christians" listen to Rush and think he's great, etc. I don't know many of that type of Christian anymore, thankfully, but it's baffling.

29 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:30:20am

Money is the only language Rush knows. Now they're talkin'.

30 Simply Sarah  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:30:59am

re: #18 calochortus

Someone over FR is calling for an investigation of Sandra Fluke's bacgkground. This is getting amazingly ugly.

Ah, the price a woman has to pay for speaking her mind/not falling in line.

31 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:31:02am

Methinks Rush didn't know Karma is a chick...
/

32 BenghaziHoops  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:31:47am

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Maybe he should have less sex, that was a ton of Viagra he had on the trip to the D.R.

Zing! Good observation.

33 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:33:04am

re: #32 HoosierHoops

Zing! Good observation.

Hey, if he's gonna judge Fluke's sex life, his should be openly up for scrutiny. So how many prostitutes last night Rush? The world wants to know you slut.

34 makeitstop  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:34:16am

re: #8 Simply Sarah

Yep. Nothing new here. Just that this time people are paying attention and seem to care. If he'd stuck to calling her a feminazi, he'd probably not be in this position. People seem depressingly willing to tolerate and even cheer that term.

I think the difference here is that his use of 'Feminazis' was general, applied to a subset of women.

This time, he singled out one woman - a law student, for God's sake - and directly called her a slut and a prostitute.

There's a big difference between the two situations. One is just an ugly generalization - the other is a direct, personal insult.

35 Interesting Times  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:34:20am
36 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:34:37am

Birth control leads to sex, just like umbrellas make it rain. So simple!

And Happy Texas Independence Day to all Lizardii!

37 Simply Sarah  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:35:46am

re: #33 HappyWarrior

Hey, if he's gonna judge Fluke's sex life, his should be openly up for scrutiny. So how many prostitutes last night Rush? The world wants to know you slut.

I can only speak for myself here, but I'd respectfully request that kind of talk be refrained from. To me, it's misogynistic and harmful even when directed against a misogynistic guy. I know I've said thing before, but I just wanted to state my mind.

38 BenghaziHoops  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:36:05am

re: #30 Simply Sarah

Ah, the price a woman has to pay for speaking her mind/not falling in line.

I think it's worse than that..Did she not report what had been told to her on Campus about BC cost? Did not her words get twisted?

39 Interesting Times  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:37:32am
40 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:37:34am

re: #37 Simply Sarah

I can only speak for myself here, but I'd respectfully request that kind of talk be refrained from. To me, it's misogynistic and harmful even when directed against a misogynistic guy. I know I've said thing before, but I just wanted to state my mind.

The second sentence, the third sentence, or both?

41 Tumulus11  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:38:58am
'Shortly before the student, Sandra Fluke, gave an interview on the cable network MSNBC today, Obama called her to tell her that her parents should be proud of her for speaking out for women.

After learning of the president's phone call during his radio show today, a day after he chided Fluke over her sex life, Limbaugh made a kissing noise with his lips and mocked Obama.

'That is so compassionate. What a great guy,' Limbaugh said. 'The president called her to make sure she's OK. What is she, 30 years old? Thirty years old, student at Georgetown Law who admits to having so much sex she can't afford it.'
// ABC News

. Rather than apologize, Rush doubles down on the ugly. Great pride and overconfidence will be his ruin.

42 Simply Sarah  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:39:09am

re: #40 wrenchwench

The second sentence, the third sentence, or both?

Well, both, although I guess the second is less about it being offensive to women and more about my feeling that it's offensive to sex workers.

43 calochortus  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:39:15am

Question: I saw a comment on a site which stated one could get contraceptive pills at Walmart for $5-$8 a month. If true, does anyone know if this is this a total price, or a co-pay?

44 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:40:18am

re: #37 Simply Sarah

I can only speak for myself here, but I'd respectfully request that kind of talk be refrained from. To me, it's misogynistic and harmful even when directed against a misogynistic guy. I know I've said thing before, but I just wanted to state my mind.

Okay, sure. You got it. I was mocking him though just to be clear. Sorry if I offended.

45 CarleeCork  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:40:26am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Remember, the pig has an audience of 30 million people. For an advertiser, giving that up is no small thing.

I didn't realize this country had that many brain-dead idiots.

46 Simply Sarah  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:40:51am

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Okay, sure. You got it. I was mocking him though just to be clear.

I know!

47 makeitstop  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:40:54am

re: #41 Tumulus11

. Rather than apologize, Rush doubles down on the ugly. Great pride and overconfidence will be his ruin.

Gotta hope so. I've been waiting for him to over-step for years.

He may be in Imus territory now.

48 Interesting Times  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:41:10am

re: #39 Interesting Times

Oh look, an atrociously written, grammar-mangling MBF:

[dobro slide]

49 jaunte  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:41:45am

re: #45 CarleeCork

We're in deep trouble. Half the country is below average.

50 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:42:00am

re: #46 Simply Sarah

I know!

Okay, fair enough. I'll just call him a jerk and hypocrite regarding his sex life instead of a slut. Serves the same purpose without being offensive.

51 calochortus  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:42:36am

re: #41 Tumulus11

. Rather than apologize, Rush doubles down on the ugly. Great pride and overconfidence will be his ruin.

One can hope.

How can all these people contend that one needs more contraceptive pills for more sexual activity with a straight face?

52 Simply Sarah  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:43:23am

re: #50 HappyWarrior

Okay, fair enough. I'll just call him a jerk and hypocrite regarding his sex life instead of a slut. Serves the same purpose without being offensive.

{{HappyWarrior}}

Thanks.

53 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:43:38am

re: #48 Interesting Times

Oh look, an atrociously written, grammar-mangling MBF:

[dobro slide]

I love the right's crying at the mean old lefties being mean to Breitbart. Have they forgotten what Breitbart did after Teddy Kennedy died? Not people like Breitbart mind you but Breitbart himself. I know two wrongs don't make a right but the right has no room to lecture anyone on decorum regarding Breitbart when he himself had no problem doing this tat all. And Kirsten doesn't represent the "left", she represents New York.

54 Gus  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:43:42am
55 What, me worry?  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:44:01am

re: #41 Tumulus11

. Rather than apologize, Rush doubles down on the ugly. Great pride and overconfidence will be his ruin.

Call me a skeptic, but this childish, nasty misogyny is only going to grow his fan base. I'm glad he's losing advertisers, but as long as he's still on the air, I'm not hopeful for any meaningful change.

Is it true that he broadcasts from his $34 million home? Oh, and I found his address yesterday. Google "Palm Beach County Property Appraiser". He's listed under RH Limbaugh. And that's a public record, btw.

At any rate, why is he still on the air?

56 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:44:10am

re: #52 Simply Sarah

{{HappyWarrior}}

Thanks.

Not a problem. I get a little passionate when upset.

57 allegro  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:44:17am

re: #51 calochortus

One can hope.

How can all these people contend that one needs more contraceptive pills for more sexual activity with a straight face?

The same way they lie about it being a demand for taxpayers to subsidize all that sex.

58 BongCrodny  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:44:29am

re: #48 Interesting Times

Oh look, an atrociously written, grammar-mangling MBF:

@SenGillibrand Senator, do you have any defense how members of your left wing have depicted @AndrewBreitbart

— adevin25 (@adevin25) March 2, 2012

[dobro slide]

There's a big difference between a private citizen and a public bomb-thrower.

59 kirkspencer  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:44:58am

re: #34 makeitstop

I think the difference here is that his use of 'Feminazis' was general, applied to a subset of women.

This time, he singled out one woman - a law student, for God's sake - and directly called her a slut and a prostitute.

There's a big difference between the two situations. One is just an ugly generalization - the other is a direct, personal insult.

The word that comes to mind is "defamation". And since she's not a public figure his defense of "humor" probably won't fly.

The counter-word is money. Rush can afford to pay his attorneys a lot more than Fluke can pay hers.

60 What, me worry?  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:45:09am

re: #43 calochortus

Question: I saw a comment on a site which stated one could get contraceptive pills at Walmart for $5-$8 a month. If true, does anyone know if this is this a total price, or a co-pay?

I would assume that's a copay or at least whatever that person's insurance doesn't cover.

I believe that Planned Parenthood said the average annual cost without insurance is $600.

61 allegro  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:45:37am

re: #55 Madge

Call me a skeptic, but this childish, nasty misogyny is only going to grow his fan base. I'm glad he's losing advertisers, but as long as he's still on the air, I'm not hopeful for any meaningful change.

Is it true that he broadcasts from his $34 million home? Oh, and I found his address yesterday. Google "Palm Beach County Property Appraiser". He's listed under RH Limbaugh. And that's a public record, btw.

At any rate, why is he still on the air?

Ask Romney. His company owns him.

62 kirkspencer  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:46:36am

re: #43 calochortus

Question: I saw a comment on a site which stated one could get contraceptive pills at Walmart for $5-$8 a month. If true, does anyone know if this is this a total price, or a co-pay?

$8 per month vicinity Chattanooga, total price.

63 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:46:50am

I think it's the fact he attacked an individual private citizen here. It's one thing to attack "liberals." Another to call an individual out like this. And he's only making it worse for how he appears to the average person by mocking her. Not saying his past statements on liberals, feminists, minorities, etc are right but it's alot easier to get away with attacking a group than an individual especially one that until a month ago was just an ordinary individual.

64 kirkspencer  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:47:56am

re: #62 kirkspencer

$8 per month vicinity Chattanooga, total price.

(Had to pick up my daughter's scrip both the last two months. we don't have insurance.)

65 What, me worry?  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:48:01am

re: #61 allegro

Ask Romney. His company owns him.

I saw that on the public record. Howard Sontag?

66 CarleeCork  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:49:54am

Didn't he called Chelsea Clinton the 'White House dog'?

68 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:50:27am

re: #63 HappyWarrior

I think it's the fact he attacked an individual private citizen here. It's one thing to attack "liberals." Another to call an individual out like this. And he's only making it worse for how he appears to the average person by mocking her. Not saying his past statements on liberals, feminists, minorities, etc are right but it's alot easier to get away with attacking a group than an individual especially one that until a month ago was just an ordinary individual.

I actually think it's bad enough to attack "liberals" or any other group in such a demeaning and vitriolic manner. But I take your point.

69 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:50:49am

re: #66 CarleeCork

Didn't he called Chelsea Clinton the 'White House dog'?

Oh that's Rush just being funny. //

70 Interesting Times  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:51:21am
71 calochortus  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:51:29am

re: #62 kirkspencer

Thanks, I've been out of the market for such things for a while.

72 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:51:56am

Cheers to Sandra Fluke for her intelligent response to Limbaugh's idiotic vitriol. I don't think this story would have grown such legs or got such attention without her doing so.

Recent comments by Rush Limbaugh do not align w/our values, so we made decision to immediately suspend all advertising on that program.

— Sleep Number Sara (@SleepNumberSara) March 2, 2012

Oh, I am loving my Sleep Number bed even more today. I had no idea that they advertised on Rush's show, but I am glad to hear they pulled out.

73 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:52:12am

re: #33 HappyWarrior

Hey, if he's gonna judge Fluke's sex life, his should be openly up for scrutiny. So how many prostitutes last night Rush? The world wants to know you slut.

Its different, he's not asking the taxpayers to subsidize his sex./

74 dr. luba  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:53:45am

re: #43 calochortus

Question: I saw a comment on a site which stated one could get contraceptive pills at Walmart for $5-$8 a month. If true, does anyone know if this is this a total price, or a co-pay?

There is a whole range of formulations--and prices--for BCPs. Some of the old generics probably are available for that price. Newer non-generics run $50 per month or more. Not everyone can take the older pills, and the newer ones are often better for treating many GYN conditions.

It's like saying that you can get a course of ampicillin at WalMart for $3, so what's the big deal with anitbiotic costs? If you have a bug that's resitant to ampicillin (and many are), you could end up spending several hundred dollars for a prescription if you don't have insurance.

75 iossarian  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:55:17am

re: #68 Bulworth

I actually think it's bad enough to attack "liberals" or any other group in such a demeaning and vitriolic manner. But I take your point.

I think that conservatives are idiots and I think Rush is a stupid bastard.

Does that make me a bad person?

76 jaunte  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:55:27am

Limbaugh copycats are proliferating:

toddstarnes ‏ @toddstarnes
The left seems to bristle at the term "slut." How about trollop? harlot? hussy? loose?

Unsurprisingly, Starnes is the host of Fox News & Commentary.

77 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:56:36am

re: #75 iossarian

I think that conservatives are idiots and I think Rush is a stupid bastard.

Does that make me a bad person?

Not in my book, no.

78 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:56:41am

re: #59 kirkspencer

The word that comes to mind is "defamation". And since she's not a public figure his defense of "humor" probably won't fly.

The counter-word is money. Rush can afford to pay his attorneys a lot more than Fluke can pay hers.

I would think there would be attorneys who would jump at the chance to sue Limbaugh for a contingency fee. However, I don't know that this technically qualifies as defamation or not.

79 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:56:50am

I was looking for a list of Limbaugh's advertisers, but the ones I found were out of date. This company is all over his website.

80 makeitstop  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:57:38am

re: #59 kirkspencer

The word that comes to mind is "defamation". And since she's not a public figure his defense of "humor" probably won't fly.

The counter-word is money. Rush can afford to pay his attorneys a lot more than Fluke can pay hers.

There's got to be some way that Georgetown Law could help this woman's defense. Class project, maybe? :)

81 BongCrodny  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:59:54am

re: #79 wrenchwench

I was looking for a list of Limbaugh's advertisers, but the ones I found were out of date. This company is all over his website.

I know a couple guys who swear by their product; one said it saved his work more than once.

From what I've read, however, Carbonite's CEO is a big-time wingnut. They're not going to go anywhere.

82 Sionainn  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:59:59am

re: #75 iossarian

I think that conservatives are idiots and I think Rush is a stupid bastard.

Does that make me a bad person?

I don't think all conservatives are idiots. We've got conservative lizards who are completely rational, intelligent people.

84 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:01:01pm

re: #81 BongCrodny

I know a couple guys who swear by their product; one said it saved his work more than once.

From what I've read, however, Carbonite's CEO is a big-time wingnut. They're not going to go anywhere.

Even wingnuts respond to lost dollars. They don't need Rush as much as he needs them.

85 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:01:17pm

re: #76 jaunte

Limbaugh copycats are proliferating:

toddstarnes ‏ @toddstarnes
The left seems to bristle at the term "slut." How about trollop? harlot? hussy? loose?

Unsurprisingly, Starnes is the host of Fox News & Commentary.

How about "none of the above, so fuck off and stop treating women like an inferior subspecies."

86 jaunte  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:02:18pm

re: #85 thedopefishlives

Looks like it's going to be Fox policy to support Limbaugh:
[Link: twitter.com...]

87 iossarian  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:02:57pm

re: #82 Sionainn

I don't think all conservatives are idiots. We've got conservative lizards who are completely rational, intelligent people.

By "conservative" I meant "someone who is planning to vote Republican in 2012".

And I will expand my definition of "idiot" to include people who are rational and intelligent but think it's OK to vote for the clown show of racists, homophobes, sexists and plutocrats that make up the current GOP.

88 makeitstop  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:02:59pm

re: #78 Youcan'ttouchthis

I would think there would be attorneys who would jump at the chance to sue Limbaugh for a contingency fee. However, I don't know that this technically qualifies as defamation or not.

I think he's definitely edging up to the line here - and every time he opens his mouth to defame her again, he would seem to get closer to an actionable offense.

Isn't that what happened to Breitbart in the Sherrod case? He just kept yapping until Sherrod had enough to go after him with?

89 Coracle  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:03:13pm

Two advertisers overboard aren't going to have enough of an impact.

90 BongCrodny  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:03:36pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

Even wingnuts respond to lost dollars. They don't need Rush as much as he needs them.

Hope you're right. Some wingnuts, however, just double down.

91 Locker  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:03:55pm

re: #89 Coracle

Two advertisers overboard aren't going to have enough of an impact.

Everything counts.

92 Sionainn  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:04:06pm

re: #86 jaunte

Looks like it's going to be Fox policy to support Limbaugh:
[Link: twitter.com...]

The comments at this Fox story are parroting Limbaugh.

93 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:04:16pm

re: #89 Coracle

Two advertisers overboard aren't going to have enough of an impact.

We'll have to see if the reaction grows, like it did against Imus, or if it blows over.

94 makeitstop  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:04:27pm

re: #90 BongCrodny

Hope you're right. Some wingnuts, however, just double down.

Yeah, let's remember that nothing is more important to a wingnut than 'pissing liberals off.'
/

95 kirkspencer  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:04:49pm

re: #78 Youcan'ttouchthis

I would think there would be attorneys who would jump at the chance to sue Limbaugh for a contingency fee. However, I don't know that this technically qualifies as defamation or not.

In Florida (where he is, if I recall, based) it's a crime:

836.04 Defamation.—Whoever speaks of and concerning any woman, married or unmarried, falsely and maliciously imputing to her a want of chastity, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

That's criminal of up to $1000 and jail of up to one year. The punishments also do not prohibit civil suit for damages from defamation.

96 Coracle  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:04:57pm

re: #91 Locker

I agree. But the heavier hitters need to pull out, too.

97 Sionainn  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:05:05pm

re: #87 iossarian

By "conservative" I meant "someone who is planning to vote Republican in 2012".

And I will expand my definition of "idiot" to include people who are rational and intelligent but think it's OK to vote for the clown show of racists, homophobes, sexists and plutocrats that make up the current GOP.

I don't think that anyone who would vote for the current GOP could be considered "rational" or "intelligent."

98 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:05:14pm

re: #86 jaunte

Looks like it's going to be Fox policy to support Limbaugh:
[Link: twitter.com...]

I'd say "screw 'em", but they don't believe in birth control or in non-procreative sex.

99 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:05:16pm

re: #88 makeitstop

I think he's definitely edging up to the line here - and every time he opens his mouth to defame her again, he would seem to get closer to an actionable offense.

Isn't that what happened to Breitbart in the Sherrod case? He just kept yapping until Sherrod had enough to go after him with?

I think so.

100 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:05:16pm

re: #88 makeitstop

I think he's definitely edging up to the line here - and every time he opens his mouth to defame her again, he would seem to get closer to an actionable offense.

Isn't that what happened to Breitbart in the Sherrod case? He just kept yapping until Sherrod had enough to go after him with?

Sherrod lost her job. I don't think it's illegal to say nasty things about someone. I'd go after Rush's money more directly, rather than keeping the lawyers he has on retainer busy. Call more of his advertisers. Get radio stations to drop his show.

101 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:05:40pm

re: #79 wrenchwench

I was looking for a list of Limbaugh's advertisers, but the ones I found were out of date. This company is all over his website.

That settles it. He really is related to Jabba.

102 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:05:46pm

re: #68 Bulworth

I actually think it's bad enough to attack "liberals" or any other group in such a demeaning and vitriolic manner. But I take your point.

Oh believe me I hate what he's said about liberals in the past but yeah I just think what I said regarding attacking the individual person against a group is more damaging in the court of public opinion. If I had my way, Limbaugh would be seen universally as the jerk who thought it was fun to call 13 year old Chelsea Clinton a dog.

103 Four More Tears  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:06:03pm

Moar plz.

Yes, I'm talking to you, LifeLock.

104 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:06:06pm

re: #96 Coracle

I agree. But the heavier hitters need to pull out, too.

Sleep Number has been on his show a long time.

105 Sionainn  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:06:42pm

re: #100 wrenchwench

Sherrod lost her job. I don't think it's illegal to say nasty things about someone. I'd go after Rush's money more directly, rather than keeping the lawyers he has on retainer busy. Call more of his advertisers. Get radio stations to drop his show.

I think you are right. The person being defamed has to prove damages.

106 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:07:31pm

re: #103 The Right Height

Moar plz.

Yes, I'm talking to you, LifeLock.

Louder, please.

107 Renaissance_Man  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:07:39pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

Even wingnuts respond to lost dollars. They don't need Rush as much as he needs them.

I think not. Actually, I think Conservativists need him more than they need air.

His popularity has never been about the typical capitalistic relationship of customer and provider, or even fan and entertainer. Modern American Conservatism is about identity. These are cultists now - people who need, desperately, to identify as part of a particular group. They need the actualisation of identifying as a Conservative - someone who hates liberals and things liberals like - and they need the lynchpins of that identification, like Rush and FOX, more than they need things like jobs, health care, and dignity. Because they'd rather do without any of those things than hate liberals a little less.

108 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:07:57pm

re: #100 wrenchwench

Sherrod lost her job. I don't think it's illegal to say nasty things about someone. I'd go after Rush's money more directly, rather than keeping the lawyers he has on retainer busy. Call more of his advertisers. Get radio stations to drop his show.

Its defamation if its false. At the moment, he's calling her a slut based on his opinion that women who use birth control are sluts, which is highly offensive but not actionable.

109 CarleeCork  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:09:09pm

re: #105 Sionainn

I think you are right. The person being defamed has to prove damages.

What happens if she gets threats?

110 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:09:55pm

re: #107 Renaissance_Man

I think not. Actually, I think Conservativists need him more than they need air.

His popularity has never been about the typical capitalistic relationship of customer and provider, or even fan and entertainer. Modern American Conservatism is about identity. These are cultists now - people who need, desperately, to identify as part of a particular group. They need the actualisation of identifying as a Conservative - someone who hates liberals and things liberals like - and they need the lynchpins of that identification, like Rush and FOX, more than they need things like jobs, health care, and dignity. Because they'd rather do without any of those things than hate liberals a little less.

That applies mostly to his listener base, and maybe to a few of his advertisers, but not most of them. Even tribal conservatives will turn on each other over money. Especially over money.

111 Coracle  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:10:37pm

Here's a list of advertisers on Limbaugh's show. Copied from that commie Kos.

Pro Flowers, Domino's Pizza, Lending Tree, Life Quotes, e-Harmony, OnStar, Hotwire, CARBONITE, Select Comfort, The Neptune Society of Northern California, Oreck Corporation, Mid-West Life Insurance Co. Tennessee, AutoZone Inc., Mission Pharmacal (Citrical), LegalZoom, Blue-Emu, Citrix Online (GoToMyPC), and American Forces Network.

Domino's would be a big get, but I wouldn't count on it.

112 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:11:02pm

re: #111 Coracle

Here's a list of advertisers on Limbaugh's show. Copied from that commie Kos.

Pro Flowers, Domino's Pizza, Lending Tree, Life Quotes, e-Harmony, OnStar, Hotwire, CARBONITE, Select Comfort, The Neptune Society of Northern California, Oreck Corporation, Mid-West Life Insurance Co. Tennessee, AutoZone Inc., Mission Pharmacal (Citrical), LegalZoom, Blue-Emu, Citrix Online (GoToMyPC), and American Forces Network.

Domino's would be a big get, but I wouldn't count on it.

Is that the list from 2007?

113 Sionainn  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:11:29pm

re: #109 CarleeCork

What happens if she gets threats?

Of course, I'm no lawyer, but I think then she could take action against the people threatening her. I don't think that would still be actionable against Rush since he didn't tell them to go threaten her.

114 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:11:54pm

re: #111 Coracle

Here's a list of advertisers on Limbaugh's show. Copied from that commie Kos.

Pro Flowers, Domino's Pizza, Lending Tree, Life Quotes, e-Harmony, OnStar, Hotwire, CARBONITE, Select Comfort, The Neptune Society of Northern California, Oreck Corporation, Mid-West Life Insurance Co. Tennessee, AutoZone Inc., Mission Pharmacal (Citrical), LegalZoom, Blue-Emu, Citrix Online (GoToMyPC), and American Forces Network.

Domino's would be a big get, but I wouldn't count on it.

No wonder Han Solo isn't a fan of Rush Limbaugh.

115 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:12:53pm

They may not be acting, but they're listening.

116 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:13:04pm

re: #105 Sionainn

I think you are right. The person being defamed has to prove damages.

Not if its libelous per se, meaning that the utterance is clearly damaging on its face. For example, Rush said that she should make sex tapes and share them since taxpayers are subsidizing her sex, which is just his opinion. If he had said she is having so much sex because she is a porn star and is making sex tapes, then that is defamatory on its face and actionable without having to prove damages.

117 Renaissance_Man  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:13:29pm

re: #110 wrenchwench

That applies mostly to his listener base, and maybe to a few of his advertisers, but not most of them. Even tribal conservatives will turn on each other over money. Especially over money.

Rick Scott, Scott Walker, and Nikki Haley have rejected federal funds for health care, rail, and the like, out of no other principle than hating liberals. This directly translates to, among other things, lost jobs and money, some of which would have gone directly to tribal Conservativists. I guarantee that the number of tribal Conservativists voting for them has not changed a jot over these actions.

118 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:14:06pm

I would think with a slander or libel case, it would have to be documented he destroyed her reputation in some way such as the comments denying her a job or something. Don't get me wrong, I feel terrible for her but I don't know how she'd legally be able to sue him. I'd be just as happy if he lost his reputation and his friends in the Republican Party ran away from him and he became an outcast.

119 kirkspencer  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:14:12pm

re: #105 Sionainn

I think you are right. The person being defamed has to prove damages.

No. All that has to be shown is that she was defamed. Some cases are trickier than others, both in the "is this defamation" and in the various defenses (public person target and satire being examples).

One of the categories of defamation per se is imputation of serious sexual misconduct. All that's required to "prove" it is to prove the defendant had published the defamation to a third party.

Rush's sole "legitimate" defense here is his eternal "it's just satire" defense. I say legitimate because the various counterattacks (nuisance countersuits, nuisance paperwork, etc.) available to deep pockets are also in his reach.

120 dragonath  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:15:08pm

This is a stupid theory, but does anyone think that the contraception issue this past month was the last straw for Olympia Snowe? After all, she was the only Republican who broke with the party on the Blunt amendment.

121 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:15:28pm

re: #120 Beware the Green Dragon!

This is a stupid theory, but does anyone think that the contraception issue this past month was the last straw for Olympia Snowe? After all, she was the only Republican who broke with the party on the Blunt amendment.

It's very possible.

122 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:15:37pm

re: #117 Renaissance_Man

Rick Scott, Scott Walker, and Nikki Haley have rejected federal funds for health care, rail, and the like, out of no other principle than hating liberals. This directly translates to, among other things, lost jobs and money, some of which would have gone directly to tribal Conservativists. I guarantee that the number of tribal Conservativists voting for them has not changed a jot over these actions.

Targeting politicians is a whole different thing from targeting someone like Limbaugh. One thing at a time.

123 Four More Tears  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:15:54pm

re: #106 wrenchwench

I deserved that.

124 Lidane  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:16:31pm
125 iossarian  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:17:26pm

re: #124 Lidane


I always liked that Santorum guy.

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126 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:17:58pm

re: #120 Beware the Green Dragon!

This is a stupid theory, but does anyone think that the contraception issue this past month was the last straw for Olympia Snowe? After all, she was the only Republican who broke with the party on the Blunt amendment.

Here is why she said she's leaving.

127 Four More Tears  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:18:07pm

re: #124 Lidane

MittBot has yet to compute all variables... likely to produce wrong answer before coming to proper conclusion ...

128 erik_t  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:18:21pm

re: #124 Lidane

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Which side of Romney's mouth was asked for comment?

129 Lidane  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:18:25pm

re: #125 iossarian

Heh. I'm pretty sure my opinion about Torquemada Jr. is well known.

I just think it's hilarious that Rush went too far even for Frothy.

130 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:18:25pm

re: #124 Lidane

Leadership a la Mitt. And as much as I despise Santorum good for him calling it out and not being an indecisive coward like Romney is.

131 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:18:43pm

I've never understood the presence of Limbaugh's daily hatefest on Armed Forces Radio.

132 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:19:17pm

re: #124 Lidane

RINO!

133 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:19:21pm

re: #131 Bulworth

I've never understood the presence of Limbaugh's daily hatefest on Armed Forces Radio.

Especially after the phony soldiers comment.

134 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:21:09pm

Wow, this is pretty bad for Romney.

135 iossarian  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:22:21pm

re: #129 Lidane

Heh. I'm pretty sure my opinion about Torquemada Jr. is well known.

I just think it's hilarious that Rush went too far even for Frothy.

No, I know that! I was just joking because I hate the skeezy bastard's guts.

Still, good on him for calling out the GOP leadership.

136 Alexzander  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:22:26pm

re: #134 Obdicut

Wow, this is pretty bad for Romney.

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Is this a new story? I'd love to see Romney get derailed for real.

137 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:23:12pm
.@MSNBC about to cover "Twitter campaign to boycott @rushlimbaugh." Hello, hello, Rush sponsors? Are you listening? #p2 #stoprush

I always find it surprising how eager people are to silence the opposition. I personally support Rush's right to free speech as long as people want to listen to him. My boycott only extends to just not listening to his program.

138 BongCrodny  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:23:45pm

re: #134 Obdicut

Wow, this is pretty bad for Romney.

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No, no, -- that's some other Mitt.

139 iossarian  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:24:01pm

re: #134 Obdicut

Wow, this is pretty bad for Romney.

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That looks massive. Flip-flopping on policy is one thing. This is an outright lie.

140 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:24:36pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

I always find it surprising how eager people are to silence the opposition. I personally support Rush's right to free speech as long as people want to listen to him. My boycott only extends to just not listening to his program.

Can you explain how people calling for a boycott are doing anything to Rush's free speech rights, boyo?

141 Alexzander  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:24:44pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

I always find it surprising how eager people are to silence the opposition. I personally support Rush's right to free speech as long as people want to listen to him. My boycott only extends to just not listening to his program.

Are boycotts not part of the free market?
[colbert]Shouldn't we let the markets decide?[/colbert]

142 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:25:03pm
143 iossarian  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:25:12pm

re: #140 Obdicut

Can you explain how people calling for a boycott are doing anything to Rush's free speech rights, boyo?

LIBERAL ACTIVITY DETECTED, MUST OPPOSE

144 What, me worry?  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:25:16pm

re: #100 wrenchwench

Sherrod lost her job. I don't think it's illegal to say nasty things about someone. I'd go after Rush's money more directly, rather than keeping the lawyers he has on retainer busy. Call more of his advertisers. Get radio stations to drop his show.

It is if you can prove damages, which is defamation.

145 allegro  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:25:28pm

re: #116 Youcan'ttouchthis

Not if its libelous per se, meaning that the utterance is clearly damaging on its face. For example, Rush said that she should make sex tapes and share them since taxpayers are subsidizing her sex, which is just his opinion. If he had said she is having so much sex because she is a porn star and is making sex tapes, then that is defamatory on its face and actionable without having to prove damages.

I would think that as a law student being accused on a national radio show of being a prostitute who is "demanding to be paid for sex" could easily be argued as damaging to her future legal career.

146 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:25:54pm

re: #134 Obdicut

Wow, this is pretty bad for Romney.

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hypocritius maximus.

147 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:26:17pm

Wait, if that's a current list of advertisers, and that includes the following:

Pro Flowers, Domino's Pizza, Lending Tree, Life Quotes, e-Harmony, OnStar, Hotwire, CARBONITE, Select Comfort, The Neptune Society of Northern California, Oreck Corporation, Mid-West Life Insurance Co. Tennessee, AutoZone Inc., Mission Pharmacal (Citrical), LegalZoom, Blue-Emu, Citrix Online (GoToMyPC), and American Forces Network.

... that means that Rush is getting taxpayer dollars courtesy of OnStar (a GM subsidiary).

148 erik_t  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:26:22pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

I always find it surprising how eager people are to silence the opposition. I personally support Rush's right to free speech as long as people want to listen to him. My boycott only extends to just not listening to his program.

Even if this were about curtailing of free speech, which it emphatically is not, transmission over federally-regulated radio frequencies is one of many longstanding and well-accepted limitations to the doctrine of freedom of speech in our legal code.

149 iossarian  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:26:32pm

I have nothing against silencing Limbaugh.

If I were standing next to him with a crate of cream buns, you wouldn't hear anything out of him for at least 15 minutes.

150 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:26:43pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

I always find it surprising how eager people are to silence the opposition. I personally support Rush's right to free speech as long as people want to listen to him. My boycott only extends to just not listening to his program.

Its not about silencing the political opposition. its about not supporting a sleazebag. Its not like there aren't a gazillion other conservative radio talk shows.

151 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:26:47pm

re: #141 PEANUT BUTTER

Are boycotts not part of the free market?
[colbert]Shouldn't we let the markets decide?[/colbert]

They are. But I solve the problem by not listening to his program. I'm not interested in preventing other people from listening to his program if they want to. It's none of my business.

152 Lidane  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:27:00pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

I always find it surprising how eager people are to silence the opposition. I personally support Rush's right to free speech as long as people want to listen to him. My boycott only extends to just not listening to his program.

Your concern is noted.

However, people calling for a sponsor boycott =/= infringing Rush's free speech rights, unless you've got an illiterate interpretation of the First Amendment.

153 Spocomptonite  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:27:30pm

re: #4 celticdragon

The perpetual right wing victim machine will swing into motion in 5..4..3..2...

Get ready for endless screaming over left wing hit jobs on Rush.

The funny thing is, his "rights" or "free speech" aren't being restricted at all. The only thing changing is how much other people decide to pay him. Victim my ass, he only has himself to blame.

154 Coracle  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:27:31pm

re: #112 wrenchwench

I don't know the vintage of the list, unfortunately.

155 Sionainn  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:27:42pm

re: #119 kirkspencer

No. All that has to be shown is that she was defamed. Some cases are trickier than others, both in the "is this defamation" and in the various defenses (public person target and satire being examples).

One of the categories of defamation per se is imputation of serious sexual misconduct. All that's required to "prove" it is to prove the defendant had published the defamation to a third party.

Rush's sole "legitimate" defense here is his eternal "it's just satire" defense. I say legitimate because the various counterattacks (nuisance countersuits, nuisance paperwork, etc.) available to deep pockets are also in his reach.

Well, I get my legal information from Handel on the Law where Bill Handel gives you "marginal legal advice." ;-)

156 Simply Sarah  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:27:46pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

I always find it surprising how eager people are to silence the opposition. I personally support Rush's right to free speech as long as people want to listen to him. My boycott only extends to just not listening to his program.

Yeah, he has free speech. No one is saying he can't say whatever (Although he's pushing some legal boundaries). Just...speech has consequences. You want to spew misogyny and hate and such all over the place? Well then you deal with the PR push back.

157 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:27:48pm

re: #151 Killgore Trout

They are. But I solve the problem by not listening to his program. I'm not interested in preventing other people from listening to his program if they want to. It's none of my business.

Again: how is anyone interfering with his free speech rights? Aren't they, rather, exercising their own by complaining about what he said?

You know free speech doesn't include the right to have a radio show, or the right to have advertisers ignore the stupid shit you say, right?

158 Kragar  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:27:49pm

re: #149 iossarian

I have nothing against silencing Limbaugh.

If I were standing next to him with a crate of cream buns, you wouldn't hear anything out of him for at least 15 minutes.

Rush and creamed buns? There is a viagra joke there somewhere.

159 BongCrodny  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:27:50pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

I always find it surprising how eager people are to silence the opposition. I personally support Rush's right to free speech as long as people want to listen to him. My boycott only extends to just not listening to his program.

If you took Rush Limbaugh off the radio, he'd still have the same free speech rights as anybody else.

160 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:28:15pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

I always find it surprising how eager people are to silence the opposition. I personally support Rush's right to free speech as long as people want to listen to him. My boycott only extends to just not listening to his program.

"Silence the opposition"? Please. Free speech includes calling his advertisers. I'm not grabbing his microphone.

161 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:29:05pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

It's not the government silencing him by any stretch. It's a segment of the public deciding that they've had enough of him and are putting pressure on his sponsors to drop their advertising money elsewhere. What happens to Rush as a result may be that he loses radio stations or compensation, but he's still free to spout off his noisome nonsense.

162 iossarian  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:29:09pm

re: #158 Kragar

Rush and creamed buns? There is a viagra joke there somewhere.

ewlol

163 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:29:18pm

re: #149 iossarian

I have nothing against silencing Limbaugh.

If I were standing next to him with a crate of cream buns, you wouldn't hear anything out of him for at least 15 minutes.

You'd have to move fast to throw them before he ate them, I expect. Of course either way would silence him for a while.

164 jaunte  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:29:22pm

Interfering with the flow of his income is the only criticism Limbaugh understands.

165 BongCrodny  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:29:41pm

re: #161 lawhawk

It's not the government silencing him by any stretch. It's a segment of the public deciding that they've had enough of him and are putting pressure on his sponsors to drop their advertising money elsewhere. What happens to Rush as a result may be that he loses radio stations or compensation, but he's still free to spout off his noisome nonsense.

This.

166 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:29:52pm

re: #105 Sionainn

I think you are right. The person being defamed has to prove damages.

Personal reputation nationally damaged

167 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:30:04pm

re: #151 Killgore Trout

They are. But I solve the problem by not listening to his program. I'm not interested in preventing other people from listening to his program if they want to. It's none of my business.

Would it change your mind if he was telling thirty million people your daughter was a slut and a prostitute?

168 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:30:17pm

re: #152 Lidane

Your concern is noted.

However, people calling for a sponsor boycott =/= infringing Rush's free speech rights, unless you've got an illiterate interpretation of the First Amendment.

I'm not suggesting his Constitutional rights are being violated but I'm not a supporter of most advertiser boycotts or getting people fired for controversial speech. I wouldn't support attempts against Glenn Beck or Larry Flint either.

169 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:30:18pm

The Religious Right calls for boycotts of shit all the time, usually for terminally stupid reasons. They're not violating anyone's free speech rights by doing so either. They're just displaying what their values are.

170 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:30:24pm

re: #164 jaunte

Interfering with the flow of his income is the only criticism Limbaugh understands.

Bingo.

171 iossarian  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:30:25pm

re: #163 Mercurial

You'd have to move fast to throw them before he ate them, I expect. Of course either way would silence him for a while.

Oh, I envisaged myself feeding them to him. Possibly wearing medieval plate armor gauntlets so as to keep all my phalanges intact.

But I like the idea of throwing them into his mouth, Donkey Kong style.

172 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:30:47pm

re: #158 Kragar

Rush and creamed buns? There is a viagra joke there somewhere.

Ya know what? If I'm having nightmares tonight, YOU'RE HAVING NIGHTMARES TONIGHT!!!

173 iossarian  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:31:36pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

I'm not suggesting his Constitutional rights are being violated but I'm not a supporter of most advertiser boycotts or getting people fired for controversial speech. I wouldn't support attempts against Glenn Beck or Larry Flint either.

That's amusing, because Limbaugh and his like (the late Andrew Breitbart very much included) are quite keen on the idea of people being fired for controversial speech.

174 Lidane  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:32:22pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

I'm not suggesting his Constitutional rights are being violated but I'm not a supporter of most advertiser boycotts or getting people fired for controversial speech. I wouldn't support attempts against Glenn Beck or Larry Flint either.

So basically, you don't think that consumers should have the right to influence the market.

What's the problem with people saying they're going to boycott advertisers who support shows they disagree with? Free market, and all that.

175 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:33:05pm

re: #108 Youcan'ttouchthis

Its defamation if its false. At the moment, he's calling her a slut based on his opinion that women who use birth control are sluts, which is highly offensive but not actionable.

He's probably lucky it's not 1850. Statements like this then would probably have gotten him called out by some of Ms. Fluke's male relatives. Especially if she was of descent from a landed southern family.
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176 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:33:48pm

re: #169 Obdicut

The Religious Right calls for boycotts of shit all the time, usually for terminally stupid reasons. They're not violating anyone's free speech rights by doing so either. They're just displaying what their values are.

Yes, they do. That's why I don't support such efforts from either side. It's all to easy to get a comedian, commentator or pundit fired. Big companies are easily spooked and over the past few decades we've degraded the amount of free speech being broadcast. The conversation is becoming increasingly narrow and timid.

177 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:34:11pm

re: #172 Slumbering Behemoth

Ya know what? If I'm having nightmares tonight, YOU'RE HAVING NIGHTMARES TONIGHT!!!

I'll see your three-headed cobra and raise you!

[Link: www.flixya.com...]

178 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:34:31pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

I'm not suggesting his Constitutional rights are being violated but I'm not a supporter of most advertiser boycotts or getting people fired for controversial speech. I wouldn't support attempts against Glenn Beck or Larry Flint either.

Then why did you mention his "right to free speech"?

179 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:35:15pm

re: #174 Lidane

So basically, you don't think that consumers should have the right to influence the market.

What's the problem with people saying they're going to boycott advertisers who support shows they disagree with? Free market, and all that.

Then don't listen to his show. I don't.

180 Four More Tears  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:35:32pm

Mitt Romney caught lying.

Later I shall be posting pictures suggesting that the sky is, in fact, blue.

181 What, me worry?  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:35:53pm

What gets to me are the multitude of Patriots (read "Republican" because Democrats can't possible be Patriots, you know...) who rail against decency in the public square and how our society is going to hell in a handbasket because our discourse has hit rock bottom. Yet these very people are usually the ones who support scum like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh. It's not about our lack of civility in society. It's about hearing what you want to hear. So yea, cry me a freakin river.

If we want civility in our society, we're going to have to figure out how to get our message across without calling people sluts.

182 Four More Tears  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:36:34pm

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Yes, they do. That's why I don't support such efforts from either side. It's all to easy to get a comedian, commentator or pundit fired. Big companies are easily spooked and over the past few decades we've degraded the amount of free speech being broadcast. The conversation is becoming increasingly narrow and timid.

Bullshit. No one is taking away anyone's choices. Pure bullshit.

183 jaunte  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:36:57pm

30 million people are listening to this:

Limbaugh has claimed Democrats "hate this country" (i.e. "What's good for Al Qaeda is good for the Democratic Party in this country today"); denigrated members of the U.S. Armed Forces, calling military men and women who criticized the war in Iraq and advocated withdrawal "phony soldiers"; toasted photos of the prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib as "good old American pornography"; suggested actor Michael J. Fox faked symptoms of his life-threatening illness while taping a pro-stem-cell-research commercial; called Sen. Barack Obama a "Halfrican American"; and announced Obama and Osama bin Laden are "on the same page."[Link: mediamatters.org...]

Probably the cause of some of our 'no compromise' political problems lately.

184 makeitstop  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:37:01pm

re: #131 Bulworth

I've never understood the presence of Limbaugh's daily hatefest on Armed Forces Radio.

Money probably changes hands somewhere.

Like Ailes getting bus stations and airport terminals to leave Fox News on 24/7. People thought he was nuts for laying out money to do that, but it paid dividends.

And no doubt Rush has kissed asses at AFR. A little schmoozing goes a long way.

185 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:37:39pm

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Yes, they do. That's why I don't support such efforts from either side. It's all to easy to get a comedian, commentator or pundit fired. Big companies are easily spooked and over the past few decades we've degraded the amount of free speech being broadcast. The conversation is becoming increasingly narrow and timid.

Really? What planet are you living on? In mine Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, Stewart, Colbert, Maddow, etc. say pretty much anything they want.

186 Sionainn  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:37:56pm

re: #142 Obdicut

Paged it.

Romney caught it a huge, huge lie about federal funding for his Olympics

I'm not seeing your link on that page.

187 Lidane  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:38:10pm

re: #179 Killgore Trout

Then don't listen to his show. I don't.

I have more respect for my brain and my blood pressure than to listen to Rush.

I still think people have the right to boycott advertisers and shows they don't agree with, even if I think their reasons are fail. The morons boycotting Archie comics and Ellen and JC Penney have the right to boycott, just like the folks going after Rush for defaming Sandra Fluke.

188 allegro  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:38:58pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

I'm not suggesting his Constitutional rights are being violated but I'm not a supporter of most advertiser boycotts or getting people fired for controversial speech. I wouldn't support attempts against Glenn Beck or Larry Flint either.

So you support the free speech of Limbaugh, Beck, and Flint but criticize the free speech of those who express their dislike of those guys? Because that's exactly what you're doing.

It is certainly your right to do so. And my right to suggest that I reject your arguments as highly hypocritical.

189 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:39:16pm

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Yes, they do. That's why I don't support such efforts from either side.

I thought it was because his free speech rights were getting violated? Or was that just not intended to be a factual statement?

190 makeitstop  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:40:05pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

I always find it surprising how eager people are to silence the opposition.

Who's silencing anyone? That's an absurd accusation - right there on a par with 'They're taking away his First Amendment rights!!1'

If he wants to be a misogynist hack and insult women wholesale, let them take a bite out of his checkbook for doing so.

Let the market decide. What a Socialist notion. //

191 erik_t  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:40:21pm

re: #187 Lidane

I have more respect for my brain and my blood pressure than to listen to Rush.

I still think people have the right to boycott advertisers and shows they don't agree with, even if I think their reasons are fail. The morons boycotting Archie comics and Ellen and JC Penney have the right to boycott, just like the folks going after Rush for defaming Sandra Fluke.

Don't be silly. You are required to spend money on all advertisers to support every radio douchebag's apparent freedom to broadcast.

THE INVISIBLE HAND HAS SPOKEN.

192 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:40:29pm

There used to be a bumper sticker/slogan Rush's acolytes used to promote: Rush is Right. Mercifully I haven't seen it in several years.

193 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:40:31pm

re: #180 The Right Height

Mitt Romney caught lying.

[Embedded content]Later I shall be posting pictures suggesting that the sky is, in fact, blue.

Mitt Romney flip flops? You don't say? Isn't this just another example of him flip flopping?

194 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:40:42pm

President Obama calls Georgetown student Fluke

Oh noes! The Moose-lim Keen-yan Atheist President-In-Name-Only has compared a poor Catholic girl to a parasite...
(clutches pearls)

(Reads article)
Oh. Never mind. She dared flaunt the Mighty Rush and is getting liberal support.
//////

195 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:40:45pm

re: #186 Sionainn

I'm not seeing your link on that page.

Hopefully working now.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

196 Four More Tears  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:41:21pm

Boo fucking hoo. A boycott will result in a loss of revenue for Clear Channel. I'm supposed to give two shits because...? What, are they going to fire Rush? No. So what's the problem again?

197 jaunte  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:41:36pm

Robot Music Interlude:
[Link: www.scientificamerican.com...]

Nine palm-sized flying robots work together to play a keyboard, drums, maracas, a cymbal and a "couch guitar" made by stretching guitar strings over a wooden couch frame:

198 Four More Tears  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:42:00pm

re: #193 Youcan'ttouchthis

Mitt Romney flip flops? You don't say? Isn't this just another example of him flip flopping?

Not flip-flopping. Lying. Completely and utterly lying.

199 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:42:11pm

re: #129 Lidane

Heh. I'm pretty sure my opinion about Torquemada Jr. is well known.

I just think it's hilarious that Rush went too far even for Frothy.

Not surprising. Defending the "honor" of such an unmarried woman is important in the "God. Nation, Family" dogma of his Falangist thinking. I'd have been more surprised if he hadn't. Mittens is probably too worried about what Rush The Hutt would say about him while Torquemada is like Honey Badger.

200 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:42:59pm

re: #194 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

President Obama calls Georgetown student Fluke

Oh noes! The Moose-lim Keen-yan Atheist President-In-Name-Only has compared a poor Catholic girl to a parasite...
(clutches pearls)

(Reads article)
Oh. Never mind. She dared flaunt the Mighty Rush and is getting liberal support.
///

Clever boots! Sweet catch!

201 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:43:20pm

re: #198 The Right Height

Not flip-flopping. Lying. Completely and utterly lying.

That's not exactly new either.

202 Lidane  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:43:53pm

ZOMG! The president of Georgetown is trying to silence Limbaugh by defending one of his students! Eleventy!

203 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:45:15pm

re: #202 Lidane

[/wingnut]ZOMG! The president of Georgetown is trying to silence Limbaugh by defending one of his students! Eleventy![/wingnut]

[Link: www.scribd.com...]

It wouldn't shock me if the President of GT was attacked for this. They're willing to attack anyone who doesn't share their view.

204 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:45:19pm

I'm shocked... shocked that Syria's regime wont let the Red Cross into Bab Amr (the neighborhood in Homs) that Assad's goons shelled for more than a month. / (there aren't enough of those in the world)

The Syrian authorities on Friday blocked without explanation an officially sanctioned Red Cross convoy laden with food and medical supplies from entering a devastated neighborhood in the central city of Homs, one day after the army overwhelmed the main rebel stronghold there following a brutal monthlong siege.

No doubt Assad doesn't want anyone to see and document what really happened there - at least until after they've had a chance to go and clear(n) things up.

205 iossarian  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:45:33pm

I think this new Romney thing is on a different level. All his other flip-flops have been of the "I used to think X, now I think Y" variety - potentially damaging but ultimately you could reconcile yourself to them if you really wanted to.

This, on the other hand, is him saying "I did X" in private, and then "I never did X, and people who did X are really bad people" in public.

As much as everything else should have already sunk him, I think this one goes all the way to 11.

206 Lidane  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:45:34pm

re: #198 The Right Height

Not flip-flopping. Lying. Completely and utterly lying.

In other words, his lips were moving. =P

207 Lidane  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:47:13pm
208 DeepBlue  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:47:58pm

re: #176 Killgore Trout

The conversation is becoming increasingly narrow and timid.

Yes, it's getting so you can't call someone a prostitute or a slut without advertisers & sponsors leaving your show. /sarc

209 Four More Tears  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:48:01pm

How dare we try to use the free market to economically harm a radio station that allows a man to call a woman speaking her conscience a slut. How dare we?!?

210 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:48:05pm

re: #207 Lidane

Heh indeed.

211 erik_t  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:48:16pm

re: #205 iossarian

As much as everything else should have already sunk him, I think this one goes all the way to 11.

Just as Obama goes to bed every night thanking his lucky stars that his potential opposition is so repugnant, so does Romney give continual thanks that he is pitted against the likes of Frothy Mix and Newt.

Is he really sinkable by anything but dead girl/live boy?

212 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:48:21pm

re: #185 Youcan'ttouchthis

Really? What planet are you living on? In mine Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, Stewart, Colbert, Maddow, etc. say pretty much anything they want.

Brilliant social commentary like All in the Family could never be made today. Same with most of the Mel Brooks movies. Comedians like Tracy Morgan have to walk on eggshells to keep their high paying TV jobs because somebody might see him on stage and take offense. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, AFA, Catholic League, etc have all been eroding the quality of social commentary. Big corporations won't take risks and continue to offer up more bland and dull shows to accommodate the most easily offended and sensitive audiences.

213 Kragar  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:48:55pm

Keep it up assholes

GOP Rep: ‘One Of The Points Of Providing Health Care For Women’ Is ‘Having Babies Born’

when Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius explained the economics of expanding access to birth control to Rep. Tim Murphy (R-PA) at a House Energy and Commerce Committee on Thursday, the Congressman was shocked:

MURPHY: So you’re saying by not having babies born, we’re going to save money on health care?

SEBELIUS: Providing contraception as a critical preventive health benefit for women and for their children reduces health care.

MURPHY: Not having babies born is a critical benefit? This is absolutely amazing to me.

In an interview with Fox News about his confrontation with Sebelius, Murphy disagreed with Sebelius’ assessment:

MURPHY: When Secretary Sebelius said that basically pregnancy is an expense, that means that by not having to pay for prenatal care and not having to pay for labor and delivery or the pediatric costs of raising a child, they figured they could save a lot of money. And it really baffled me how we were going to expect to pay for health care by not having babies. I thought that was one of the points of providing health care for women. And quite frankly it doesn’t make sense financially.

Yes, you moron. Providing birth control suddenly means that no children will ever be born again, and all taxpayers will vanish off the face of the earth. You've nailed it. Well done.
/

214 Sionainn  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:49:43pm

re: #195 Obdicut

Hopefully working now.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

It works now. Thanks. I'm going to share your page.

215 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:50:18pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

Brilliant social commentary like All in the Family could never be made today. Same with most of the Mel Brooks movies. Comedians like Tracy Morgan have to walk on eggshells to keep their high paying TV jobs because somebody might see him on stage and take offense. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, AFA, Catholic League, etc have all been eroding the quality of social commentary. Big corporations won't take risks and continue to offer up more bland and dull shows to accommodate the most easily offended and sensitive audiences.

I agree with what you're saying but the problem here is Limbaugh went after an individual, a private citizen at that. I think that's what has sparked the outrage against him since the woman he attacked could have been anyone or someone we knew. There's a difference between attacking groups like he usually does which is lame but more meh than calling a single woman a slut. And this isn't social commentary. This is Limbaugh being a bully to a specific individual because he doesn't like what she believes in. People have the right to boycott him for that.

216 CriticalDragon1177  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:50:24pm

Charles Johnson

Rush's unwillingness to apologies for what he said is won't help him. I wonder if he will take back what he said with most, if not all of his advertisers pulling out. I used to be a big fan of Rush. I'm not anymore.

217 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:50:50pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

Brilliant social commentary like All in the Family could never be made today.

Yep. Chapelle Show never got made, for example. Oh wait.

Same with most of the Mel Brooks movies.

Such as?

Comedians like Tracy Morgan have to walk on eggshells to keep their high paying TV jobs because somebody might see him on stage and take offense.

Do you think it's seeing him on stage, or his homophobic rants that are the problem? You know Morgan didn't claim he was joking, right?

Big corporations won't take risks and continue to offer up more bland and dull shows to accommodate the most easily offended and sensitive audiences.

You realize we're talking about Limbaugh calling a girl a slut, right? Not about brilliant social commentary? Or did you lose the thread of the conversation at the same time you thought this was a first amendment case?

218 Lidane  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:51:32pm

re: #213 Kragar

Keep it up assholes

GOP Rep: ‘One Of The Points Of Providing Health Care For Women’ Is ‘Having Babies Born’

Because, of course, a woman's sole purpose in life is being an incubator and pumping out kids. What a tool.

Barack Obama really was blessed with the dumbest enemies on the planet. Between the birther morons and the people who keep opening their pie holes and offending women with their misogyny and idiocy about birth control and sex, Team Obama couldn't have planned it any better.

219 Four More Tears  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:51:41pm

re: #213 Kragar

Keep it up assholes

GOP Rep: ‘One Of The Points Of Providing Health Care For Women’ Is ‘Having Babies Born’

Yes, you moron. Providing birth control suddenly means that no children will ever be born again, and all taxpayers will vanish off the face of the earth. You've nailed it. Well done.
/

Bravo.

*clap*

*clap*

*clap*

220 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:52:23pm

re: #218 Lidane

Because, of course, a woman's sole purpose in life is being an incubator and pumping out kids. What a tool.

Barack Obama really was blessed with the dumbest enemies on the planet. Between the birther morons and the people who keep opening their pie holes and offending women with their misogyny and idiocy about birth control and sex, Team Obama couldn't have planned it any better.

Except if they're on "welfare" and having any extra kiddies is an attempt to spunge more off the system. /

221 Kragar  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:53:07pm

re: #218 Lidane

Because, of course, a woman's sole purpose in life is being an incubator and pumping out kids. What a tool.

Barack Obama really was blessed with the dumbest enemies on the planet. Between the birther morons and the people who keep opening their pie holes and offending women with their misogyny and idiocy about birth control and sex, Team Obama couldn't have planned it any better.

The current GOP is a Communist plot to get Obama re-elected. Its the only logical conclusion.

222 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:53:26pm

re: #221 Kragar

The current GOP is a Communist plot to get Obama re-elected. Its the only logical conclusion.

Please don't give the JBS ideas.
Thanks, me.

223 What, me worry?  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:53:39pm

Regarding "silencing the opposition"

How about a little support for Sandra Fluke who gets up in front of Congress to speak her mind and gets shouted down, called a prostitute and a slut, by some oversized bully with a microphone. Why aren't we supporting HER right to free speech?

Sorry, I don't buy any pity parties for Rush.

224 Kragar  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:53:42pm

re: #220 Bulworth

Except if they're on "welfare" and having any extra kiddies is an attempt to spunge more off the system. /

Sponge*

225 Lidane  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:54:20pm

re: #217 Obdicut

You realize we're talking about Limbaugh calling a girl a slut, right? Not about brilliant social commentary? Or did you lose the thread of the conversation at the same time you thought this was a first amendment case?

Calling her a slut, demanding she post a sex tape, etc. Real brilliant social commentary.

How dare anyone try to silence that brilliance by contacting Rush's advertisers. How DARE they! What, do they think we have a free market or some shit? You're going to listen to Rush and like it, you overly sensitive, PC assholes. =P

226 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:54:29pm

re: #196 The Right Height

Boo fucking hoo. A boycott will result in a loss of revenue for Clear Channel. I'm supposed to give two shits because...? What, are they going to fire Rush? No. So what's the problem again?

Might impact Mitt Romney's income? (Bain Capital owns Clear Channel).

227 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:54:52pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

Brilliant social commentary like All in the Family could never be made today. Same with most of the Mel Brooks movies. Comedians like Tracy Morgan have to walk on eggshells to keep their high paying TV jobs because somebody might see him on stage and take offense. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, AFA, Catholic League, etc have all been eroding the quality of social commentary. Big corporations won't take risks and continue to offer up more bland and dull shows to accommodate the most easily offended and sensitive audiences.

I don't have a TV. IIRC, you don't have a TV. When All in the Family was on, there were only 3 networks. Now there are dozens of cable channels. From what I've seen here, John Stewart is way ahead of All in the Family for social commentary.

228 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:55:03pm

re: #159 BongCrodny

If you took Rush Limbaugh off the radio, he'd still have the same free speech rights as anybody else.

Yep, just wouldn't have the huge megaphone of the PUBLIC AIRWAVES to do it from.

229 What, me worry?  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:55:27pm

re: #223 Madge

Regarding "silencing the opposition"

How about a little support for Sandra Fluke who gets up in front of Congress to speak her mind and gets shouted down, called a prostitute and a slut, by some oversized bully with a microphone. Why aren't we supporting HER right to free speech?

Sorry, I don't buy any pity parties for Rush.

Because THIS IS EXACTLY what Rush wants to do. Silence US. Don't you suppose that young women are not going to stick their necks out if they think they're going to be taunted like this?

230 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:56:01pm

re: #223 Madge

Regarding "silencing the opposition"

How about a little support for Sandra Fluke who gets up in front of Congress to speak her mind and gets shouted down, called a prostitute and a slut, by some oversized bully with a microphone. Why aren't we supporting HER right to free speech?

Sorry, I don't buy any pity parties for Rush.

This and a bully is precisely what he is and always will be.

231 Four More Tears  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:56:10pm

re: #226 wrenchwench

Might impact Mitt Romney's income? (Bain Capital owns Clear Channel).

No, if it gets to that point all they need to do is layoff workers, gut the pensions, take on debt in CC's name, then declare bankruptcy and liquidate...

232 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:56:26pm

re: #216 CriticalDragon1177

Charles Johnson

Rush's unwillingness to apologies for what he said is won't help him. I wonder if he will take back what he said with most, if not all of his advertisers pulling out. I used to be a big fan of Rush. I'm not anymore.

See, listeners can get better!

233 Kragar  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:56:27pm

Pelosi: GOP Favors Government Intrusion On Individual Liberty Only When It Comes to Matters of Sex

In an interview with the Washington Post this morning, Pelosi went after the Republicans’ tendency to “favor government intrusion on individual liberty only when it comes to matters of sex.” “They don’t believe in a government role except when it comes to women exercising her conscience on an issue like that,” she said. “People who choose to marry and find comfort with each other — they decide that government should step in there. But clean air, clean water, food safety, public safety, public education, public health, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security — they want to end the government role.”

234 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:56:44pm

re: #223 Madge

Regarding "silencing the opposition"

How about a little support for Sandra Fluke who gets up in front of Congress to speak her mind and gets shouted down, called a prostitute and a slut, by some oversized bully with a microphone. Why aren't we supporting HER right to free speech?

Sorry, I don't buy any pity parties for Rush.

I fully support her. She comes out of this situation looking great, Rush looks like a massive classless asshole. Don't fuck it up by trying to silence him. Let him talk.

235 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:56:47pm

re: #227 wrenchwench

Some of Colbert and Stewart bits on race have been cringingly great.

Like this one:

Managing to stick up for Orthodox Jews while happily mocking them, too.

236 Lidane  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:57:23pm

re: #223 Madge

How about a little support for Sandra Fluke who gets up in front of Congress to speak her mind and gets shouted down, called a prostitute and a slut, by some oversized bully with a microphone. Why aren't we supporting HER right to free speech?

Didn't you know? The only people who have a right to free speech are overpaid conservative radio hosts. After all, their rights are the ones being violated by people daring to boycott advertisers.

///

237 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:58:44pm

re: #234 Killgore Trout

I fully support her. She comes out of this situation looking great, Rush looks like a massive classless asshole. Don't fuck it up by trying to silence him. Let him talk.

So this would be your third reason?

So first was that this is a first amendment issue-- which is just obviously not true, as anyone with a basic understanding of the first amendment knows.

Then it's that over-sensitivity narrows the discourse-- which presumes something that isn't true, that we have any sort of narrowing or PC going on.

Now it's that Rush is just covering himself in shame so we should 'let him talk'.

Any of these your actual opinion?

238 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:59:12pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

I'm not suggesting his Constitutional rights are being violated but I'm not a supporter of most advertiser boycotts or getting people fired for controversial speech. I wouldn't support attempts against Glenn Beck or Larry Flint either.

I don't recall speaking out against the firings of Helen Thomas or Pat Buchanan.

239 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:59:29pm

re: #234 Killgore Trout

I fully support her. She comes out of this situation looking great, Rush looks like a massive classless asshole. Don't fuck it up by trying to silence him. Let him talk.

So you're saying give him more rope to hang himself with? I agree with that but he's said equally shitty stuff in the past.

240 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:59:52pm

re: #237 Obdicut

Any of these your actual opinion?

uhh....no.

241 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 1:00:57pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

So you're saying give him more rope to hang himself with? I agree with that but he's said equally shitty stuff in the past.

Agreed. He has such a long history of racist comments he was blocked from partial ownership of an NFL team. He's a notorious dick.

242 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 1:01:09pm

re: #240 Killgore Trout

uhh...no.

Then why are you firing them off, one after the other? Just seeing what sticks?

Why'd you bring up 'free speech' if you don't think this is a free speech issue, for example?

243 What, me worry?  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 1:04:11pm

re: #234 Killgore Trout

I fully support her. She comes out of this situation looking great, Rush looks like a massive classless asshole. Don't fuck it up by trying to silence him. Let him talk.

If we're going to raise the discourse in society, and I actually agree it could use some raising, than cut him off at the knees. MAKE HIM deal with the issues the way SHE dealt with the issues.

And no, we don't get to call names. I realize it's not illegal to call names, but it's the reason our mothers told us not to do it. It's called living in a society.

244 jaunte  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 1:04:23pm

Limbaugh quotes vs. Fluke quotes:
Image: anim_8e7ac259-796d-a954-4530-e3a98a59b4b6.gif

245 What, me worry?  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 1:09:24pm

What if he called a Black person a N*. Does he get to do that too? How about a Jew a Kike or an Italian a Wop. Oh no, but slut is perfectly fine. Free speech and all.

I'm getting my broom and calling shenanigans.

246 What, me worry?  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 1:09:37pm

re: #244 jaunte

Limbaugh quotes vs. Fluke quotes:
Image: anim_8e7ac259-796d-a954-4530-e3a98a59b4b6.gif

Awesome. Did you make that?

247 jaunte  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 1:10:39pm

re: #246 Madge

No, I picked it up from an Eric Boehlert tweet.

248 zora  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 1:12:52pm

re: #202 Lidane

[Link: www.scribd.com...]

from the link:

In recent days, a law student of Georgetown, Sandra Fluke, offered her testimony regarding the proposed regulationsby the Department of Health and Human Services before a group of members of Congress. She was respectful,sincere, and spoke with conviction. She provided a model of civil discourse. This expression of conscience was inthe tradition of the deepest values we share as a people. One need not agree with her substantive position to supporther right to respectful free expression. And yet, some of those who disagreed with her position including RushLimbaugh and commentators throughout the blogosphere and in various other media channels responded with behavior that can only be described as misogynistic, vitriolic, and a misrepresentation of the position of our student.

249 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 1:13:26pm

re: #245 Madge

What if he called a Black person a N*. Does he get to do that too? How about a Jew a Kike or an Italian a Wop. Oh no, but slut is perfectly fine. Free speech and all.

I'm getting my broom and calling shenanigans.

That's why I think this is different from his other crap. Honestly, I really hope this is the final straw for him but I doubt it is because he's made a career out of this but I am hoping that this gets enough people angry for his advertisers to drop him. He wants to say that shit, that's his right but it's getting old and has been for some time.

250 Four More Tears  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 1:20:28pm

re: #245 Madge

What if he called a Black person a N*. Does he get to do that too? How about a Jew a Kike or an Italian a Wop. Oh no, but slut is perfectly fine. Free speech and all.

I'm getting my broom and calling shenanigans.

Witch!

/

251 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 1:46:24pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

Well, OK. Ever heard of Boondocks?

252 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 1:50:14pm

And really. South Park.

253 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 3:05:42pm

Can someone tell me when "free speech" became synonymous with not having to face any consequences for what you say? Rush is free to say whatever he wants. He is not entitled to keep radio sponsors forever if he says something they find distasteful.

254 Origuy  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 3:11:59pm

Another of Limbaugh's advertisers, Quicken Loans, just posted on their Facebook page that they are "suspending" advertising on his radio show.
Most of the comments have been positive, although there are a few who have gotten the most recent talking points about Fluke being a law student and an activist, not a "co-ed". Like that makes a difference.

255 Egregious Philbin  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 7:21:19pm

So, Limbaugh, the 4 times married community college dropout who hustled prescription drugs has an issue with: A woman, sex, a college and drugs.

Yep, it projection-a-palooza!

256 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 7:27:05pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

I always find it surprising how eager people are to silence the opposition. I personally support Rush's right to free speech as long as people want to listen to him. My boycott only extends to just not listening to his program.

you are just too fucking funny with your troll job

257 Ben G. Hazi  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 8:06:17pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

Brilliant social commentary like All in the Family could never be made today. Same with most of the Mel Brooks movies. Comedians like Tracy Morgan have to walk on eggshells to keep their high paying TV jobs because somebody might see him on stage and take offense. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, AFA, Catholic League, etc have all been eroding the quality of social commentary. Big corporations won't take risks and continue to offer up more bland and dull shows to accommodate the most easily offended and sensitive audiences.

BS on the Tracy Morgan crap; he was here in Nashville doing a show when he did that cringeworthy "joke" that if he had a gay son, he'd pull out a knife and stab him. Fucking hilarious, ain't it? The rest of your examples are mostly BS too, but I'll let you keep that fantasy.

HURR DURR DERP

258 labman57  Fri, Mar 2, 2012 8:58:05pm

Interesting contrast in ideologies can be seen in boycott petitions.

Conservatives call for boycotts against companies and broadcasts that promote compassion, whereas progressives champion boycotts against companies and broadcasts that espouse intolerance.


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