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Video: Sandra Fluke’s Testimony That Drove the Right Wing Crazy

Let’s face it - they don’t even know what she said
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Right wingers are spewing a huge amount of venom at law student Sandra Fluke, but it’s quite evident from Rush Limbaugh’s statements and the nonsense all over the right wing blogs that most of these people have no idea what Fluke actually said.

Actually, that’s the generous analysis — it’s also likely that they do know what she said, but are deliberately lying about it.

So in the interest of accuracy, here’s the C-SPAN video of Sandra Fluke’s testimony to the House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee, on February 23, 2012. She actually begins speaking at about 15:20.

Here’s just one obvious example showing how the ranting wingnuts never read or watched her statement: notice that Fluke says she was past president of Law Students for Reproductive Justice. It’s the first thing she says, in fact, when she introduces herself.

But the right wing blogs are all screaming about this, and pretending it’s a deep dark secret they’ve discovered that totally discredits Ms Fluke.

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178 comments

1 aagcobb  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:16:20pm

This week it has become acceptable on the Right to call any woman who opposes their policies a slut. So, even though I'm a man, I say we are all sluts now. Shame the GOP by refusing to let them denigrate people with labels.

2 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:17:28pm

RWNJs: Masters of deception, ignorance, and cognitive dissonance.

3 mr.fusion  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:18:55pm

And of course there's a "Is Obama At With Christianity?" ad right underneath this story. Don't tell me the right isn't trying to use this as a wedge issue.

4 God of Binders with Women  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:20:48pm

Really
Unhinged
Spewing
Horseshit

5 Obdicut  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:20:58pm

It's very clear that the morons yammering about her being terrible and awful haven't actually watched this.

6 Gus  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:21:43pm

What RWNJs see while watching this:

Nancy Pelosi! Nancy Pelosi! Nancy Pelosi! Nancy Pelosi! Nancy Pelosi! Nancy Pelosi! Nancy Pelosi! Nancy Pelosi! Nancy Pelosi!

Hurr, hurr, ah derpity, derpy do!

7 erik_t  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:21:46pm

re: #3 mr.fusion

And of course there's a "Is Obama At With Christianity?" ad right underneath this story. Don't tell me the right isn't trying to use this as a wedge issue.

Counter-point: I get one for the Arpaio PAC!

Support Sheriff Joe's Efforts to Take Our Country Back!

/falls over laughing

8 God of Binders with Women  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:24:22pm

Mmph! Urr! Let us watch you having sex, slut!!! Pant! Pant!

Rush, you are a disgusting old man. Fuck off.

9 allegro  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:24:53pm

re: #7 erik_t

Counter-point: I get one for the Arpaio PAC!

/falls over laughing

I got one for Carbonite, one of the companies that pulled its advertising from Rush. Good on them.

10 Interesting Times  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:26:32pm

re: #9 allegro

I got one for Carbonite, one of the companies that pulled its advertising from Rush. Good on them.

Are you sure? This makes it sound like they haven't done so yet

11 bratwurst  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:27:34pm

I suggest anyone who wants to take a stand against misogyny on the public airwaves take a moment to drop an email or a Twitter message to ProFlowers.com

12 Obdicut  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:28:10pm

re: #10 Interesting Times

Are you sure? This makes it sound like they haven't done so yet

A lot of these companies are going to 'suspend' their advertising, then quietly creep back after the scandal dies down.

13 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:28:23pm

Here's a Google blog search for "Law Students for Reproductive Justice." Look how many of these wingnut fools are yelling their dim heads off about it, calling her a 'ringer' (and worse, of course).

[Link: www.google.com...]

She said it in her first sentence.

14 dragonfire1981  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:28:47pm

The GOP: Running furiously away from the truth since the 1980s.

15 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:30:03pm

re: #14 dragonfire1981

The GOP: Running furiously away from the truth since the 1960s.

FTFY.

There's a reason the two parties essentially switched sides during the 1960's. These people are still fighting the same culture wars they lost a long time ago.

16 allegro  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:30:12pm

re: #10 Interesting Times

Are you sure? This makes it sound like they haven't done so yet

Oops, I am confusing them with Citrix. Thanks for the correction.

17 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:30:35pm

Oops, forgot the link - here's the blog search:

[Link: www.google.com...]

18 dragonath  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:31:14pm

Rush's show seems like the last place a flower delivery company would want to advertise.

Maybe they're trying to cover up the smell

19 Gus  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:35:58pm

What the Republicans did to the House is disgusting. What they did with regards to Ms. Fluke testifying is disgusting. Republicans are no friends of freedom and liberty. They're certainly no friends to women.

20 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:41:36pm

re: #12 Obdicut

A lot of these companies are going to 'suspend' their advertising, then quietly creep back after the scandal dies down.

It's what they done in the past, acting "outraged" at Rush's comments/actions and their customers voicing "concern," then quietly returning to running ads on his show once the controversy has died down.

21 jaunte  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:41:50pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Jammie Wearing Fool: "While she is described as a “third year law student” they always fail to mention that she is also the past president of Law Students for Reproductive Justice. "

22 jaunte  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:42:54pm

Sandra Fluke:
“My name is Sandra Fluke, and I’m a third-year student at Georgetown Law School. I’m also a past-president of Georgetown Law Students for Reproductive Justice or LSRJ. And I’d like to acknowledge my fellow LSRJ members and allies and all of the student activists with us and thank them so much for being here today."

Second sentences are so hard to pay attention to.

23 Gus  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:43:46pm

re: #22 jaunte

Sandra Fluke:
“My name is Sandra Fluke, and I’m a third-year student at Georgetown Law School. I’m also a past-president of Georgetown Law Students for Reproductive Justice or LSRJ. And I’d like to acknowledge my fellow LSRJ members and allies and all of the student activists with us and thank them so much for being here today."

Second sentences are so hard to pay attention to.

They were still thinking about Nancy Pelosi!

//

24 Gus  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:45:16pm

OT

As you can see he's got a RWNJ derp storm to contend with as well.

25 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:45:56pm

re: #24 Gus

26 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:46:32pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

You're being bigoted to Breitbart's fans! //

27 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:46:50pm

re: #24 Gus

What did Frum say about that scumbag?

28 Kronocide  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:48:08pm

Are we actually regressing as a society, or has this relatively new platform (the internet) allowed us to confirm that we really haven't progressed at all?

29 Gus  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:48:22pm

re: #27 The Ineffable Name

What did Frum say about that scumbag?

Andrew Breitbart, 1969-2012
by David Frum

We live in a time of political and media demagoguery unparalleled since the 19th century. Many of our most important public figures have gained their influence and power by inciting and exploiting the ugliest of passions—by manipulating fears and prejudices—by serving up falsehoods as reported truth. In time these figures will one by one die. What are we to say of this cohort, this group, this generation? That their mothers loved them? That their families are bereaved? That their fans admired them and their employees treated generously by them? Public figures are inescapably judged by their public actions. When those public actions are poisonous, the obituary cannot be pleasant reading. -- David Frum

30 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:48:59pm

re: #22 jaunte

Second sentences are so hard to pay attention to.

That's because these RWNJ morons have been trained to think in bumper sticker slogans and talking points.

31 Gus  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:49:21pm

re: #29 Gus

[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

We live in a time of political and media demagoguery unparalleled since the 19th century. Many of our most important public figures have gained their influence and power by inciting and exploiting the ugliest of passions—by manipulating fears and prejudices—by serving up falsehoods as reported truth. In time these figures will one by one die. What are we to say of this cohort, this group, this generation? That their mothers loved them? That their families are bereaved? That their fans admired them and their employees treated generously by them? Public figures are inescapably judged by their public actions. When those public actions are poisonous, the obituary cannot be pleasant reading.

And:

And this is where it becomes difficult to honor the Roman injunction to speak no ill of the dead. It’s difficult for me to assess Breitbart’s impact upon American media and American politics as anything other than poisonous. -- David Frum

32 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:50:12pm

re: #29 Gus

*standing applause*

33 Gus  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:52:13pm

re: #32 The Ineffable Name

*standing applause*

How dare he slander Abraham Lincoln! Derp. //

34 Kronocide  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:52:30pm

I am not happy that Breitbart is dead and never wished him harm. I truly empathize for his family. But I am very happy for us all that his evil exploits have ceased.

35 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:55:05pm

re: #34 Kronocide

I am not happy that Breitbart is dead and never wished him harm. I truly empathize for his family. But I am very happy for us all that his evil exploits have ceased.

Yep. As one of the commenters under Frum's article said, next years would've likely brought us Big Science and Big Education.

36 M. Dubious  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:57:08pm

re: #35 The Ineffable Name

Yep. As one of the commenters under Frum's article said, next years would've likely brought us Big Science and Big Education.

Heh.

37 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:57:24pm

re: #29 Gus

I have a serious difference with Frum, though - he gives Breitbart a pass on racism, says it was purely a tool for him.

I think that's a ridiculous excuse. Breitbart is infamous for reasons that quite clearly can be traced to his manipulation of right wing race memes. It was one of his constant themes, repeated over and over.

He enabled and promoted racial grievance politics, and when I pointed out that his audience was reacting to that in exactly the way you'd expect, by spewing overtly racist comments, Breitbart's response was to attack me and claim that I was somehow involved with planting all those comments.

At what point would David Frum consider Breitbart a racist? At the very least, he was a seriously vicious race-baiter.

38 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:57:43pm

re: #36 M. Dubious

You still grieving? //

39 sattv4u2  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:58:43pm

re: #35 The Ineffable Name

Yep. As one of the commenters under Frum's article said, next years would've likely brought us Big Science and Big Education.

Stuck at work today

Maybe someone could bring me a Big Mac !!

( and while they're at it ,, Super Size the Fries.,, K!?!)

40 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:59:27pm

re: #39 sattv4u2

Stuck at work today

Maybe someone could bring me a Big Mac !!

( and while they're at it ,, Super Size the Fries.,, K!?!)

K. 2000$ for delivery and you're all set.

41 M. Dubious  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:59:42pm

re: #38 The Ineffable Name

You still grieving? //

Grieving is in the eye of the beholder. The question is, am I grieving to you?

42 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:00:16pm

re: #41 M. Dubious

Grieving is in the eye of the beholder. The question is, am I grieving to you?

Can't see ya. Come closer!

43 Gus  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:00:27pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

I have a serious difference with Frum, though - he gives Breitbart a pass on racism, says it was purely a tool for him.

I think that's a ridiculous excuse. Breitbart is infamous for reasons that quite clearly can be traced to his manipulation of right wing race memes. It was one of his constant themes, repeated over and over.

He enabled and promoted racial grievance politics, and when I pointed out that his audience was reacting to that in exactly the way you'd expect, by spewing overtly racist comments, Breitbart's response was to viciously attack me and claim that I was somehow involved with planting all those comments.

At what point would David Frum consider Breitbart a racist? At the very least, he was a seriously vicious race-baiter.

I agree. When I got to that section in Frum's piece I found myself shaking my head in disagreement. But the rest of the piece makes very good points. Especially if you consider Frum's position in the conservative environment. On the racist argument Ta-Nehisi Coates makes the case in On Making Yourself Right.

44 sattv4u2  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:00:55pm

re: #40 The Ineffable Name

K. 2000$ for delivery and you're all set.

$1.99 for the Mac
$1.59 for the fries

$1,996.42 for the gas!!

Ring the bell when you get to the door,, and for that price, it BETTER still be hot!!!

45 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:05:00pm
46 Renaissance_Man  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:06:04pm

re: #28 Kronocide

Are we actually regressing as a society, or has this relatively new platform (the internet) allowed us to confirm that we really haven't progressed at all?

As a species, we have failed the test of character the internet has afforded us. We have demonstrated that with anonymity and lack of consequences, we are deeply petty, shortsighted, and venal.

However, we, and I refer specifically to the US here, are also regressing as a society. The US is alone in this only because it is the only nation that has all-pervasive, completely enveloping media right now, and every nation will have to deal with some measure of it as the world progresses. But the saturation of Conservative cult media, and the bald-faced incitement of hatred and ignorance it endorses, has definitely regressed society as a whole. Hatred and bigotry that, if not expunged, had at least become completely socially unacceptable, is once again acceptable. Thirsting for the blood of your neighbours, calling for violence and rebellion - that's becoming okay again, as long as you hate liberals. It's amazing how much ethical progress a few short years of pervasive, agenda-driven media can undo.

47 Digital Display  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:06:32pm

re: #39 sattv4u2

Stuck at work today

Maybe someone could bring me a Big Mac !!

( and while they're at it ,, Super Size the Fries.,, K!?!)

How about a Salad? I picked up a Huge Salad at the Mont today..It is awesome

48 sattv4u2  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:12:23pm

re: #47 HoosierHoops

How about a Salad? I picked up a Huge Salad at the Mont today..It is awesome

A salad would be nice ,,, as long as it as a side to some grilled/ fried/ roasted meat of some variety!

49 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:13:52pm

OK, in the Q&A, she says she has a male partner and that she uses contraception.

Sslluuutspittle!!!1

///

50 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:15:28pm

re: #49 wrenchwench

(I don't like the color gamma of those huge tags.)

51 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:16:49pm

re: #49 wrenchwench

OK, in the Q&A, she says she has a male partner and that she uses contraception.

Sslluuutspittle!!!1

///

Now see, if human beings reproduced via asexual means, we could avoid this whole mess to begin with.

52 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:17:00pm

re: #50 The Ineffable Name

(I don't like the color gamma of those huge tags.)

What's a color gamma?

53 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:17:16pm

Oh, and good afternoon, Lizardim.

54 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:17:53pm

re: #52 wrenchwench

Probably it's just me, but bold black on white surrounded by red instantly causes unnecessary associations.

55 Obdicut  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:19:06pm

re: #54 The Ineffable Name

Yeah, it does make me instantly think something Fascist is on its way. That's weird. I had no idea those colors were so strongly associated in my mind.

56 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:20:13pm

Here's a fun one for ya:

College girl sues university because her roommate was having too much sex

Her argument is that the university's failure to separate her from her hedonist roommate caused her to go into a suicidal depression. Umm, how about just go out and get some for yourself and maybe you'd lighten up a bit?

57 sattv4u2  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:20:55pm

re: #55 Obdicut

Yeah, it does make me instantly think something Fascist is on its way. That's weird. I had no idea those colors were so strongly associated in my mind.

Yikes,,, the mind did go right there, didn't it!

58 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:22:19pm

re: #57 sattv4u2

You had this reaction too?

59 M. Dubious  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:23:36pm

re: #56 thedopefishlives

Here's a fun one for ya:

College girl sues university because her roommate was having too much sex

Her argument is that the university's failure to separate her from her hedonist roommate caused her to go into a suicidal depression. Umm, how about just go out and get some for yourself and maybe you'd lighten up a bit?

What is "too much"? What amount of sex would she have been comfortable with?

60 sattv4u2  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:23:49pm

re: #58 The Ineffable Name

You had this reaction too?

In a word ,, Ja !!

61 jaunte  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:24:02pm

re: #55 Obdicut

The twin diagonals, similar to ss runes, might also have something to do with it.

62 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:24:49pm

re: #61 jaunte

//!
///

63 Gus  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:24:51pm

Incoming!

A Statement from Rush
March 03, 2012

For over 20 years, I have illustrated the absurd with absurdity, three hours a day, five days a week. In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation. I did not mean a personal attack on Ms. Fluke.

I think it is absolutely absurd that during these very serious political times, we are discussing personal sexual recreational activities before members of Congress. I personally do not agree that American citizens should pay for these social activities. What happened to personal responsibility and accountability? Where do we draw the line? If this is accepted as the norm, what will follow? Will we be debating if taxpayers should pay for new sneakers for all students that are interested in running to keep fit?In my monologue, I posited that it is not our business whatsoever to know what is going on in anyone's bedroom nor do I think it is a topic that should reach a Presidential level.

My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices.

64 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:24:54pm

re: #43 Gus

I agree. When I got to that section in Frum's piece I found myself shaking my head in disagreement. But the rest of the piece makes very good points. Especially if you consider Frum's position in the conservative environment. On the racist argument Ta-Nehisi Coates makes the case in On Making Yourself Right.

That's a pretty good one.

It is wholly appropriate to be sorry that Andrew Breitbart died. But in the relevant business, it is right to be sorry for how he lived.

Which is sort of my feeling on the issue. A big part of Breitbart's gimmick was to elicit hate in others. He loved nothing more than for people to display hatred and ugliness. That was evident in his obsessive retweeting of all the insults hurled at him. That's why I think he probably would have love Matt Taibbi's ugly and classless obituary. I don't know if Breitbart was a hateful of bigoted person but I do know that a large part of his goal was to create a hateful and bigoted reaction from his adversaries. He died, like all of us will, as a fragile human being and I'm sympathetic to that. I will not react to his passing with hate and ugliness as he would want me to and I'm not going to become more like him now he's gone.

65 jaunte  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:25:51pm

re: #63 Gus

Perfect. "You didn't get it, but for form's sake, I'll apologize."

66 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:26:34pm

re: #63 Gus

See the advertisers stampede back.

Despite Limpaugh not apologizing for the substance of his words.

67 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:26:48pm

re: #63 Gus

Incoming!

A Statement from Rush
March 03, 2012

Meh, A hollow forced apology directed by management.

68 jaunte  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:27:42pm
"I think it is absolutely absurd that during these very serious political times, we are discussing personal sexual recreational activities before members of Congress. I personally do not agree that American citizens should pay for these social activities."

He's still pretending it's all about 'social activities.'

69 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:27:44pm
70 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:28:15pm

re: #54 The Ineffable Name

Probably it's just me, but bold black on white surrounded by red instantly causes unnecessary associations.

They were made and generously loaned by Curious Lurker, so there ya go.

//

71 DREd  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:30:10pm

Wow, I thought Rush never apologized. Nothing like losing sponsors to get a fat junkie to start singing another tune.

72 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:30:18pm

re: #68 jaunte

He's still pretending it's all about 'social activities.'

And he's still saying that she talked about her personal sex life in her testimony:

I think it is absolutely absurd that during these very serious political times, we are discussing personal sexual recreational activities before members of Congress.

She never did that, but he's still repeating the lie.

73 erik_t  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:31:00pm

re: #69 Lidane

TPM, that's not an apology. I was a kid not too long ago. I am well versed in the bullshit non-apology. That's, to be charitable, a 'public statement and retraction'.

74 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:31:11pm

re: #71 DREd

Wow, I thought Rush never apologized. Nothing like losing sponsors to get a fat junkie to start singing another tune.

He's not apologizing. It's a bullshit statement that still repeats his lie that she talked about her sex life in front of Congress.

75 Gus  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:32:43pm

Saturday afternoon apology dump.

76 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:32:46pm

re: #68 jaunte

He's still pretending it's all about 'social activities.'

Obnoxious, mean, nasty bastard missed the part about the woman who lost an ovary, the woman who has seizures without contraception, the woman who was told it would endanger her life if she didn't take contraceptive medication shortly after giving birth.

His information-free rant has not been properly apologized for, because he has not acknowledged that women's health matters, and that contraceptiive medicine is often not about preventing conception.

77 A Mom Anon  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:33:45pm

re: #63 Gus

Again with the taxpayers footing the bill for sex,it's crap. Insurance companies are picking up the tab or part of it for the pill,that's it. That little fact is being ignored and/or exaggerated throughout this whole insanity. Wingnuts made it up, since when is insurance a government program.

Also,Rush's little half assed apology must mean he's a tad worried. Poor thing,bless his heart.

78 allegro  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:35:45pm

re: #63 Gus

Incoming!

A Statement from Rush
March 03, 2012

But still repeating the lies.

79 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:37:50pm

I wonder how many advertisers will take that offensive masquerade of an apology as permission to resume their ads.

80 DREd  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:38:28pm

"In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation."

Does he mean to say analysis? Someone might be back at the hillbilly heroin.

81 allegro  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:38:43pm

re: #63 Gus

I did not mean a personal attack on Ms. Fluke.

The hell he didn't. Liar.

82 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:38:58pm

re: #79 wrenchwench

I wonder how many advertisers will take that offensive masquerade of an apology as permission to resume their ads.

Most, if not all of them. And if you call them on it, they'll shrug and go "That's the best we're going to get, no point in losing money trying to squeeze him for the impossible."

83 bratwurst  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:39:08pm
"My choice of words was not the best"

What exactly would Rush have to call a woman to merit stronger self-criticism than that?!?

84 erik_t  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:39:24pm

re: #81 allegro

The hell he didn't. Liar.

I called your mother a fat promiscuous pig, but you didn't have to take it so personally!

85 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:39:38pm

re: #81 allegro

The hell he didn't. Liar.

Personal responsibility? No, dunno wazzat.
/

86 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:39:49pm

re: #63 Gus

Incoming!

A Statement from Rush
March 03, 2012

For over 20 years, I have illustrated the absurd with absurdity, three hours a day, five days a week. In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation. I did not mean a personal attack on Ms. Fluke.

I think it is absolutely absurd that during these very serious political times, we are discussing personal sexual recreational activities before members of Congress. I personally do not agree that American citizens should pay for these social activities. What happened to personal responsibility and accountability? Where do we draw the line? If this is accepted as the norm, what will follow? Will we be debating if taxpayers should pay for new sneakers for all students that are interested in running to keep fit?In my monologue, I posited that it is not our business whatsoever to know what is going on in anyone's bedroom nor do I think it is a topic that should reach a Presidential level.

My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices.

Bullshit, Rush...you knew exactly what you were saying all those times you ran Ms. Fluke down and slandered her name and know exactly what you're saying now with the half-assed non-apology apology.

/it was only satire!

87 Tumulus11  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:39:55pm

'In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation.'

'My choice of words was not the best ...'

'I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices'.

. Rush apologizing for choosing the wrong synonym for 'whore' is not going to quell the firestorm

88 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:40:26pm

re: #63 Gus

Incoming!

A Statement from Rush
March 03, 2012

Translation: "I'm sorry you all don't agree with my words, now get back to advertising on my show, because I still think I was right from the beginning."

89 jaunte  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:40:30pm
90 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:40:47pm
91 allegro  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:41:10pm

re: #87 Tumulus11

'In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation.'

'My choice of words was not the best ...'

'I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices'.

. Rush apologizing for choosing the wrong synonym for 'whore' is not going to quell the firestorm

Indeed. I'm sorry that I'm being forced to apologize but I meant every word of it.

93 erik_t  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:42:20pm

re: #91 allegro

Indeed. I'm sorry that I'm being forced to apologize but I meant every word of it.

It's one step above 'I'm sorry your feelings were hurt', which even fourth-graders can see through every time.

94 jaunte  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:42:23pm
95 Jimmi the Grey  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:42:24pm

re: #63 Gus

Incoming!

A Statement from Rush
March 03, 2012

Now will he apologise for lying about the content of Ms Fluke's testimony?

96 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:43:29pm

re: #87 Tumulus11

'In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation.'

'My choice of words was not the best ...'

'I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices'.

. Rush apologizing for choosing the wrong synonym for 'whore' is not going to quell the firestorm

I'd almost swear he went with the same page out of the same playbook as Romney's "criticism" last night, whining that people are aggravated at the "choice of words" rather than the sentiment behind them.

But I'm not holding out hope that "forgiveness" will be withheld and his feet kept to the fire. Nobody expects better of Rush and are going to settle for this non-apology as the best they're going to get. SSDD.

97 jaunte  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:44:10pm

Rush Limbaugh’s Advertisers Facing Social Media Firestorm

So far, Sleep Number, The Sleep Train, Quicken Loans, Legal Zoom and Citrix have pulled ads from the program, and several others are considering following their lead.

Keep it going.

98 allegro  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:44:30pm

re: #95 Jimmi the Grey

Now will he apologise for lying about the content of Ms Fluke's testimony?

He repeated all of those lies in his "apology." So... no.

99 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:44:42pm

re: #95 Jimmi the Grey

Now will he apologise for lying about the content of Ms Fluke's testimony?

Of course not. His fake apology just rehashes all the lies he's been telling about her testimony all week. He's basically saying he's not sorry for calling her a whore and a slut, he just would have phrased it different. And he's sorry you're offended by his word choices.

Fuck him and fuck anyone who defends him or who minimizes what he says into an OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE ZOMG. That's not an apology.

100 erik_t  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:45:04pm

re: #97 jaunte

Rush Limbaugh’s Advertisers Facing Social Media Firestorm

Keep it going.

Unfortunately, the vast majority have 'suspended' advertising. Which means now they have their pathetic opening to bring it right back.

101 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:45:07pm

re: #87 Tumulus11

'In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation.'

'My choice of words was not the best ...'

'I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices'.

. Rush apologizing for choosing the wrong synonym for 'whore' is not going to quell the firestorm

Note how that line of BS from Rush echoes what Mitt said when asked about the whole brouhaha.

Rush isn't sorry about what he said, he's only sorry that he's getting shit about it from people other than his usual sparring partners (liberals).

102 jaunte  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:46:31pm

Word choices:
"I won't buy any product or service advertised on Rush Limbaugh's program."

103 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:46:42pm

From the same website containing the non-apology:

RUSH: Folks, if you ask 'em -- if you ask 'em -- the Washington, DC, Department of Health will send you free condoms and lube. The DC Department of Health free condoms and lube if you just ask 'em for it! So, Ms. Fluke and the rest of you feminazis, here's the deal: If we are going to pay for your contraceptives and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it. And I'll tell you what it is. We want you to post the videos online so we can all watch.

That's not a "choice of words" problem there.

104 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:46:59pm

[Link: twitter.com...]

105 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:47:41pm

re: #99 Lidane

Of course not. His fake apology just rehashes all the lies he's been telling about her testimony all week. He's basically saying he's not sorry for calling her a whore and a slut, he just would have phrased it different. And he's sorry you're offended by his word choices.

Fuck him and fuck anyone who defends him or who minimizes what he says into an OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE ZOMG. That's not an apology.

Yep, he's not sorry he called her a slut or a prostitute, he's just sorry that people responded negatively to such words. The meaning behind them? He still believes it and will continue to do so knowing that nobody's gonna yank him off the air. That putrid pile of shit will be at the microphone until the day that his "fans" and critics alike stop paying him the time of day.

106 elizajane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:47:45pm

"My choice of words was not the best"? So now he's stealing lines from Mitt Romney. Can Rush really have sunk so low?

Very interesting argument happening at Althouse: Anne A. has decided to totally go against Rush and the whole Republican party on this one (even going so far as to imply that it could make her vote for Obama) and her readership is having convulsions. And she is responding over and over on the comment thread to everything they throw at her.

[Link: althouse.blogspot.com...]

107 aagcobb  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:48:35pm

re: #56 thedopefishlives

Here's a fun one for ya:

College girl sues university because her roommate was having too much sex

Her argument is that the university's failure to separate her from her hedonist roommate caused her to go into a suicidal depression. Umm, how about just go out and get some for yourself and maybe you'd lighten up a bit?

A college student shouldn't have to put up with that.

108 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:49:33pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Embedding doesn't work without # it seems.

109 Jimmi the Grey  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:50:12pm

re: #100 erik_t

Unfortunately, the vast majority have 'suspended' advertising. Which means now they have their pathetic opening to bring it right back.

Well, maybe when those companies notice that folks have still suspended purchasing their products they can re reevaluate.

110 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:50:24pm

re: #108 The Ineffable Name

Embedding doesn't work without # it seems.

No - just a small glitch, now fixed.

111 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:51:09pm
112 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:51:42pm

re: #103 wrenchwench

From the same website containing the non-apology:

That's not a "choice of words" problem there.

Later that same page:

RUSH: Where did he get it checked? Probably Media Matters. Of course, it's not what I said. He's forgetting the way this whole thing happened. A woman goes up to congressional committee and says: I'm having sex so damn much, I'm going broke. What the heck is going on here? This is why I tell you, it's "phony soldiers" times ten. And it's not true. Maria Cantwell, Senator from Washington, MSNBC Live this morning. The anchor said, "Rush Limbaugh yesterday squarely aimed his words at Sandra Fluke questioning her virtue..." I'm not questioning her virtue. I know what her virtue is. She's having so much sex that she's going broke! There's no question about her virtue. "Rush Limbaugh yesterday squarely aimed his words at Sandra Fluke, questioning her virtue, doing so in a pretty rude manner on the airwaves. How do you feel about her character, her virtue being questioned, and is she being treated like a political football between the parties?"

Her "virtue" is not in question. Her virtue being questioned? Who is this anchor? Thomas Roberts. Thomas, do you have any question about her virtue? Is it still an open question to you? Anyways, Maria Cantwell, here's what she said.

Choice of words, indeed.

113 aagcobb  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:51:50pm

re: #72 Lidane

And he's still saying that she talked about her personal sex life in her testimony:

She never did that, but he's still repeating the lie.

Pig should apologize for his apology.

114 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:51:56pm

re: #111 Lidane

Limbaugh is a sick, twisted pervert.

115 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:52:15pm

re: #106 elizajane

Fascinating.

116 erik_t  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:52:18pm

re: #112 wrenchwench

Later that same page:

Choice of words, indeed.

Well, he didn't say how many words.

/

117 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:52:26pm

re: #111 Lidane

Well to Rush, that probably is humorous. Tis a very disgusting, slope-browed form of misogynist humor that should have been dead decades ago, but humor none the less.

118 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:52:35pm

re: #105 Targetpractice

Yep, he's not sorry he called her a slut or a prostitute, he's just sorry that people responded negatively to such words. The meaning behind them? He still believes it and will continue to do so knowing that nobody's gonna yank him off the air. That putrid pile of shit will be at the microphone until the day that his "fans" and critics alike stop paying him the time of day.

It'll take either Rush keeling over or the "dead girl/live boy" thing to get him off the air with Premiere/ClearChannel; they have too much invested in him and he makes them too much money for them to give him the boot a lá Imus.

119 Obdicut  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:53:11pm

re: #112 wrenchwench

In a way, Rush is actually letting Romney twist with this apology. He apologized in a way that aligns him with Romney.

How about an apology for lying, Rush? I mean, I know it'd take five years to get through 'em all, but they're more important than 'word choice'.

120 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:53:23pm

This is how the Republican Party gets off the hook for not distancing themselves from Rush. Rush "apologizes" instead, a very rare occurrence for him.

I wonder what Boehner said to him?

121 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:53:40pm

re: #113 Weareallslutsnow

Pig should apologize for his apology.

Why bother? His idiot followers will defend him no matter what, his advertisers lack the balls to truly ditch him, and he's not going to get fired.

He got to spend three days calling a woman a slut, and a whore, and demanding a sex tape from her, and lying about her testimony, and he gets away with it.

122 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:53:56pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

This is how the Republican Party gets off the hook for not distancing themselves from Rush. Rush "apologizes" instead, a very rare occurrence for him.

I wonder what Boehner said to him?

"If you don't apologize, I may have to cry on live TV. You don't want to watch me cry, do you Rush?"

123 jaunte  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:54:09pm

@EricBoehlert
shorter Limbaugh: I am sorry I started losing advertisers and Clear Channel was telling me I was about to lose dozens more; #coward

124 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:54:27pm
126 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:55:47pm

re: #124 Lidane

We need Jimmah here to give Rush a proper Scottish dressing-down.

127 jaunte  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:56:07pm

@DLoesch
#SleepNumber is free to participate in the fascistic witch hunt of broadcast diversity, just as I am free not to purchase their crappy beds.

Dlerp.

128 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:56:23pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

I wonder what Boehner said to him?

"Please issue a non-apology apology so we can pretend you regret what you said. Once it dies down, we'll go back to letting you run the Republican party."

129 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:56:39pm

re: #106 elizajane

A clueless commenter:

Good lord, Maher calls Palin the "c" word often loud and seriously and the Left ignores it, Limbaugh mocks MOCKS Flukes embarrassing "testimony" that contraception for some must be paid for by others and ZOMG the sky has fallen!

Yes, because God knows Bill Maher is the leader of the Democratic party.

130 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:57:00pm

re: #24 Gus

OT

[Embedded content]As you can see he's got a RWNJ derp storm to contend with as well.

After what he said about Breitbart that isn't a surprise.

131 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:57:40pm

re: #125 Gus

Click here to view a word cloud of Limbaugh's nonapology.

The biggest one there is what still get me about the non-apology, the bit about "personal responsibility." Show of hands, who thinks Rush Limbaugh is an excellent example of personal responsibilty? Nobody? Yeah, that's what I thought.

132 erik_t  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:57:42pm

re: #127 jaunte

@DLoesch
#SleepNumber is free to participate in the fascistic witch hunt of broadcast diversity, just as I am free not to purchase their crappy beds.

Dlerp.

'Fascistic'?

How is free market formed?

133 Gus  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:57:46pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

After what he said about Breitbart that isn't a surprise.

Truth hurts sometimes.

134 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:58:10pm

re: #115 The Ineffable Name

Fascinating.

Image: SpockFascinating.jpg

135 jaunte  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:58:55pm

re: #132 erik_t

Sorry can't answer, I'm still savoring the complex aroma of "fascistic witch hunt of broadcast diversity."

136 Gus  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:59:11pm

re: #131 Targetpractice

The biggest one there is what still get me about the non-apology, the bit about "personal responsibility." Show of hands, who thinks Rush Limbaugh is an excellent example of personal responsibilty? Nobody? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Here's a 10 word version which narrows it down even more.

Image: limbaugh_nonapology_word_cloud_II.jpeg

137 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:59:11pm

re: #128 Lidane

"Please issue a non-apology apology so we can pretend you regret what you said. Once it dies down, we'll go back to letting you run the Republican party."

"Damnit Rush, just issue some bullshit 'apology' so we can get back to convincing the rubes that we're fighting this all out over 'religious freedom!'"

138 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:59:58pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

After what he said about Breitbart that isn't a surprise.

Is there anything good to say about Breitbart except that he might have been a good family-man?

139 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:00:32pm

re: #135 jaunte

Sorry can't answer, I'm still savoring the complex aroma of "fascistic witch hunt of broadcast diversity."

Tastes like wingnut tears...sweet, yet bitter.

140 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:01:03pm

re: #129 The Ineffable Name

A clueless commenter:

Yes, because God knows Bill Maher is the leader of the Democratic party.

Rush isn't the leader of the GOP, either. And Bill Maher is often ugly and hostile, but he does not outright lie like Rush does.

Neither man is right, but Rush is worse by far. That's my way of criticizing both while leaving the Magical Balance Fairy in Fairyland.

141 erik_t  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:01:23pm

re: #138 The Ineffable Name

Is there anything good to say about Breitbart except that he might have been a good family-man?

Nothing that couldn't be called 'damning by extraordinarily faint praise'.

142 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:01:30pm
143 Obdicut  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:01:56pm

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

Rush isn't the leader of the GOP, either. And Bill Maher is often ugly and hostile, but he does not outright lie like Rush does.

Neither man is right, but Rush is worse by far. That's my way of criticizing both while leaving the Magical Balance Fairy in Fairyland.

Rush is much, much, much, much, much more of a power in the GOP than Maher is a power in the Democrats. You can include that.

144 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:02:55pm

re: #138 The Ineffable Name

Is there anything good to say about Breitbart except that he might have been a good family-man?

That's pretty much Breitbart in a nutshell...for such a high-profile person, his legacy is pure shit.

145 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:03:04pm

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

Rush isn't the leader of the GOP, either.

Sure he is. None of the actual "leadership" of the party had the balls to truly call him out on what he said. They all tried to play some delicate dance about how the other side was bad too, or that it was all a misunderstanding, or that he's just an entertainer.

Rush has the GOP "leadership" by the balls. They know it. He knows it. It's why he can say what he wants with impunity and get away with it.

146 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:03:41pm

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

Not only that, but Maher is anti-science in his own way.

147 erik_t  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:04:11pm

re: #145 Lidane

Equally to the point, every recent example of straight-up criticism of Rush by an elected GOP official has been rapidly walked back in far more apologetic terms than Rush used in this case.

148 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:04:23pm

The Most Influential Conservative

NEW YORK – By a wide margin, Americans consider Rush Limbaugh the nation’s most influential conservative voice.

Those are the results of a poll conducted by “60 Minutes” and Vanity Fair magazine and issued Sunday. The radio host was picked by 26 percent of those who responded, followed by Fox News Channel’s Glenn Beck at 11 percent. Actual politicians — former Vice President Dick Cheney and former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin — were the choice of 10 percent each.

149 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:04:30pm

re: #124 Lidane

Bit more extreme than I remember out of Mr. Black. But I haven't followed his career in recent years. At times during the 1990's MTV's comedy show The State (which had Michael Ian Black as part of its cast) was on near to or at the same times as Rush's show on late-night TV. The State was always funnier and less nasty.

150 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:05:07pm

re: #145 Lidane

Sure he is. None of the actual "leadership" of the party had the balls to truly call him out on what he said. They all tried to play some delicate dance about how the other side was bad too, or that it was all a misunderstanding, or that he's just an entertainer.

Rush has the GOP "leadership" by the balls. They know it. He knows it. It's why he can say what he wants with impunity and get away with it.

And they'll now try to use this non-apology to demand the subject be dropped, because they really don't want to fight this out much longer. They've already been getting their tails kicked in the fight over contraception, but having Rush screaming "slut!" and "prostitute!" was throwing rocket fuel on the fire.

151 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:05:55pm

re: #54 The Ineffable Name

Probably it's just me, but bold black on white surrounded by red instantly causes unnecessary associations.

re: Image: sarc_tags_extra_large.png

Let's adapt it. Rational Global Armchair Snarker's Party? We could even adopt a version of the Death's Head symbol, but with a trollface instead of a skull.

152 jaunte  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:06:07pm
153 b_sharp  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:06:31pm

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

Rush isn't the leader of the GOP, either. And Bill Maher is often ugly and hostile, but he does not outright lie like Rush does.

Neither man is right, but Rush is worse by far. That's my way of criticizing both while leaving the Magical Balance Fairy in Fairyland.

Bill Maher is an idiot comedian who does not speak for anyone but Bill Maher. Rush Limbaugh has been considered by the right as a spokesman for their views for a while. Bill Maher appeals to the flake extreme of the left, Rush appeals to the mainstream right.

Their positions are not comparable, so the influence their words exert is also not comparable.

154 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:06:46pm

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

Rush isn't the leader of the GOP, either.

Oh please. Surely, I'm using it half-jokingly, but then there's this:

[Link: thehill.com...]
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
[Link: www.politico.com...]
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]
[Link: www.salon.com...]

And Bill Maher is often ugly and hostile, but he does not outright lie like Rush does.

Did you miss the point? Maher is no one to the Democrats.

That's my way of criticizing both while leaving the Magical Balance Fairy in Fairyland.

You've just indirectly engaged in MBF through incorrect criticism.

155 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:06:57pm

re: #146 ProGunLiberal

Not only that, but Maher is anti-science in his own way.

True. Bill Maher is an anti-vaxxer. But the thing to remember is that Maher catches a decent amount of fire from the left for his anti-vaxxer notions, whereas Rush can all AGW a myth and none on the dare say "boo" to him.

156 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:07:37pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

I was thinking more of his utzball PETA support, but there's that too.

157 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:08:30pm

re: #154 The Ineffable Name

Did you miss the point? Maher is no one to the Democrats.

You've just indirectly engaged in MBF through incorrect criticism.

No, I have not. You may think me wrong if you wish, but I clearly did not attempt to 'balance' the two.

158 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:09:17pm

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

Bit more extreme than I remember out of Mr. Black.

Call it the Limbaugh effect. He didn't mean to call Limbaugh a fuck-o. It was a "poor word choice". And he didn't mean to tell him to go suck a fat cock. He was just trying to be humorous and satirical.

///

159 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:09:47pm

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

No, I have not. You may think me wrong if you wish, but I clearly did not attempt to 'balance' the two.

OK, sorry, got overheated for a moment there.

Still, the point is: Rush Limbaugh is one of the informal leaders of the GOP.

Bill Maher is nothing to Democrats, and is not a Democrat himself.

160 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:11:00pm

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

Rush isn't the leader of the GOP, either. And Bill Maher is often ugly and hostile, but he does not outright lie like Rush does.

Neither man is right, but Rush is worse by far. That's my way of criticizing both while leaving the Magical Balance Fairy in Fairyland.

Bullshit, Dark, and you know it. Rush has vastly more pull and juice with the Republicans than any of his contemporaries who are or lean Democratic.

He really is the defacto leader of the GOP nowadays, with power and influence that Maher can only dream of.

161 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:13:08pm

Damn, Ann Althouse is indeed reasonable in that thread. Shocka.

You have a blind spot. This isn't about welfare. This is about health insurance. A person, rich or poor, buys health insurance. They pay for it and they are entitled to the coverage they bought. This is a debate about what coverage should be required.

And by the way, students paying a lot of money for tuition and room and board and the required health insurance plan are in a very tight situation, going deeper and deeper into debt and facing a tough job market. Their arguments for the insurance to cover the things they use make plenty of sense. You don't have to be persuaded, but your joking about fat girls isn't persuasive!

162 Interesting Times  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:15:56pm

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

No, I have not. You may think me wrong if you wish, but I clearly did not attempt to 'balance' the two.

What do you think of Boehner consulting with Limbaugh on matters of national policy, like the debt ceiling debate Sergey linked to?

163 b_sharp  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:16:01pm

re: #158 Lidane

Call it the Limbaugh effect. He didn't mean to call Limbaugh a fuck-o. It was a "poor word choice". And he didn't mean to tell him to go suck a fat cock. He was just trying to be humorous and satirical.

///

Fluke said nothing to deserve the reaction she got from Limbaugh. On the other hand, Limbaugh, because of the reaction he had to Fluke, deserves to be denigrated incisively.

Limbaugh walked up and without provocation punched Fluke in the face. Limbaugh has shown more than once he only respects severe retribution as a deterrent, so it is fitting he gets punched in the face and kicked in the balls. Figuratively speaking of course.

164 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:17:05pm

And finally I've seen a real person who has been banned by google:

Mike said...
Frankly I'm a little confused here. I listen to El Rushbo on occasion; a little Blowhard, whether it be Limbaugh or O'Reilly goes a long way.

Did Limbaugh use the words "slut" and "prostitute" or did he simply say this woman had sex three times a day and she wants us to pay for it?

Certainly the testimony of Ms. Fluke was a bit of a drama queen act. She had fellow female students at Georgetown Law (tuition $45,000 a year) who had to give up sex for three years because they couldn't pay for three years of birth control (which works out to about a grand a year).

I don't know (because I didn't hear--turn that stuff off pretty quick) whether Limbaugh used the words slut and prostitute or whether those people who got the vapors about it simply connected the words "sex" and "pay for it".

165 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:17:49pm

re: #151 Pope Ron Polyp XXXVII

re: Image: sarc_tags_extra_large.png

Let's adapt it. Rational Global Armchair Snarker's Party? We could even adopt a version of the Death's Head symbol, but with a trollface instead of a skull.

I'm sorry, but no. The Death's Head, Nazi swastika, and SS runes are too tainted by history for any repurposing, even edited.

166 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:18:03pm

re: #161 The Ineffable Name

Damn, Ann Althouse is indeed reasonable in that thread. Shocka.

And that's what has been lost in all the bitching about the "cost to taxpayers" and such, that the mandate that has caused so much Republican pearl-clutching is for one purpose: to make comprehensive insurance exactly that. If you're paying the money for something that is being sold as "comprehensive," then when bits and pieces are lopped off for whatever reason, it ceases to be "comprehensive."

167 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:18:05pm

re: #159 The Ineffable Name

OK, sorry, got overheated for a moment there.

Still, the point is: Rush Limbaugh is one of the informal leaders of the GOP.

Bill Maher is nothing to Democrats, and is not a Democrat himself.

I really don't agree, though he is a very influential figure. But Rush is also almost impossible to oppose for Republican politicians, due to the fact that he has more access, via his radio program, than Republicans in Congress do to the Congress critters constituents.

168 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:18:15pm

re: #163 b_sharp

Fluke said nothing to deserve the reaction she got from Limbaugh.

Of COURSE she did! She's a woman who went before Congress and talked about birth control and ladyparts! We can't allow that! It's not part of Real America.

Why do you hate America?

///

169 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:19:12pm

re: #165 talon_262

I'm sorry, but no. The Death's Head, Nazi swastika, and SS runes are too tainted by history for any repurposing, even edited.

Quite Concur.

170 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:19:25pm

re: #151 Pope Ron Polyp XXXVII

That joke is right there with the Scholls joke.

171 Lidane  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:19:39pm

re: #167 Dark_Falcon

But Rush is also almost impossible to oppose for Republican politicians, due to the fact that he has more access, via his radio program, than Republicans in Congress do to the Congress critters constituents.

That makes him the de facto leader of the GOP, Dark. If elected politicians can't oppose him, then he runs the show.

172 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:20:58pm

re: #167 Dark_Falcon

Formal head of the GOP apologized to Rush, DF.

Rush is also almost impossible to oppose for Republican politicians, due to the fact that he has more access, via his radio program, than Republicans in Congress do to the Congress critters constituents.

That makes him one of informal GOP leaders. I don't see how this can be disputed.

173 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:22:22pm

re: #75 Gus

Saturday afternoon apology dump.

Gotta do it while the news is slow!

174 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:22:42pm

re: #167 Dark_Falcon

I really don't agree, though he is a very influential figure. But Rush is also almost impossible to oppose for Republican politicians, due to the fact that he has more access, via his radio program, than Republicans in Congress do to the Congress critters constituents.

You've just confirmed what we've all been arguing with you about: Rush is so powerful and has enough juice in the modern GOP, no one in the party dares oppose him on anything, lest they want to see their career dissipation light go into overdrive.

That, more than anything, says that Rush holds the keys to the GOP kingdom.

175 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:30:06pm

re: #171 Lidane

That makes him the de facto leader of the GOP, Dark. If elected politicians can't oppose him, then he runs the show.

Not even the RNC leadership can butt heads with Rush and come out unscathed. AFAIK, Rinsed Prius has kept his head down in regards to Rush, but didn't Steele say a thing or two about Rush that he had to backpedal on?

176 Jimmi the Grey  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:33:12pm

re: #171 Lidane

That makes him the de facto leader of the GOP, Dark. If elected politicians can't oppose him, then he runs the show.

To be fair, it could also be interpreted as meaning the leadership of the GOP is so weak and spineless as to not even be able to refute a shockjock.

177 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:35:08pm

re: #176 Jimmi the Grey

To be fair, it could also be interpreted as meaning the leadership of the GOP is so weak and spineless as to not even be able to refute a shockjock.

The shockjock, Jimmi. There's none other. They sure are spineless, and that doesn't refute the "informal leader" claim, quite the contrary. The weaker the formal leaders are...

178 Jimmi the Grey  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:40:25pm

re: #177 The Ineffable Name

The shockjock, Jimmi. There's none other. They sure are spineless, and that doesn't refute the "informal leader" claim, quite the contrary. The weaker the formal leaders are...

Yeah, i know, just making clear the implications of what is being asserted by denying that he isn't der(p) leader.


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