Sarah Palin's Word Salad of the Day: Apologizing for Limbaugh

Sarah Palin’s Word Salad of the Day: Apologizing for Limbaugh

“Never is that the same applied to the leftist radicals”

WingnutsMarch 2012 • Views: 31,247

Sarah Palin came out yesterday and denounced Rush Limbaugh’s disgusting misogynistic attacks on law student Sandra Fluke…

OK, you already know I’m kidding so I’ll just knock it off.

In reality, of course, Palin apologized and made excuses for Limbaugh with one of those deliciously incoherent word salads so beloved of the right wing.

“I think the definition of hypocrisy is for Rush Limbaugh to have been called out, forced to apologize and retract what it is that he said in exercising his First Amendment rights and never is that the same applied to the leftist radicals who say such horrible things about the handicapped, about women, about the defenseless.

“So I think that’s the definition of hypocrisy, and that’s my two cents for you.”

Meanwhile, the entire right wing has gone into full-throated “they did it too” deflection mode for Rush Limbaugh today. Infantile schoolyard politics, to defend the indefensible.

One example out of many: wingnut ranter William Jacobson has grandly announced the Carbonite Accountability Project, intended to shame the online backup company into advertising with Limbaugh again. He called on his voluminous audience to chime in with any “hypocritical” advertising decisions from Carbonite; so far he’s gotten one comment:

Your link to Focus page leads back to your original post.

They’re just beyond parody — have been for years now.

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123 comments

Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:37:47am

“the leftist radicals who”…

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:38:13am

Knew she would do this. She has no credibility at all to speak about offensive language after she got upset about what Rahm Emanuel saying retard in private but had condoned it when Limbaugh did the same thing because “he’s a clever satirist”.

anonymous gun expert Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:39:10am

I hate this women. I want to call her bad names. She represents everything that is wrong with our political process. She adds nothing to any discussion.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:39:13am

into advertising with Limbaugh again

Wouldn’t that be … awkward? For both sides.

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:40:41am

re: #3 Iwouldprefernotto

I hate this women. I want to call her bad names. She represents everything that is wrong with our political process. She adds nothing to any discussion.

I lost alot of respect for McCain after he made the pick. I was going to vote for Obama anyhow but I had wanted to like the Senator and Palin represents everything wrong with modern American conservatism: It’s mean, it’s nasty, it thinks it’s the great victim, it’s anti-intellectual, etc.

Bulworth Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:40:55am

leftist radicals who say such horrible things about the handicapped, about women, about the defenseless.

Such as…?

Obdicut Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:41:59am

re: #6 Bulworth

Such as Bill Maher, who is not really a ‘leftist’, and is defending Limbaugh, and Mike Malloy, who nobody really knows about.

Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:42:30am

Sarah, oh Sarah. How I wish you didn’t share my first name.

But really, how can you defend this? You know what it’s like to be the target of this. You know what it’s like for your (Admittedly much younger than Ms. Fluke) daughter to be the target of this.

It was wrong when you were attack for being a woman. For being a mother. For being the mother of a young child with some special needs like Trig. It was wrong when Bristol was attacked. And I defended all of you from that, because I knew it was wrong.

I’ll ask, even though I already know the answer: Why do you support Rush now? Why do you support the very kinds of unfair disgusting attacks you had to suffer through? Why is team (Is he even really on your team?) more important than righteousness? Than fairness? Than empathy? Why can’t you see this, Sarah?

Bulworth Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:42:48am

say such horrible things about the handicapped

I admit I’ve missed this feature of leftist radicalism. /

dragonfire1981 Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:44:33am

Creepy Joe Apraio ad popping up on LGF now:

Support Sherriff Joe’s efforts to take our country

Ummm…No.

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:44:43am

re: #9 Bulworth

I admit I’ve missed this feature of leftist radicalism. /

It’s more of her bullshit meme that she’s been pushing since she went on the national scene that left of center people hate the handicapped and think their mothers should have had abortions. It has no basis in fact whatsoever but Palin spouts it anyhow because she’s so full of shit I think she actually believes it. That one really pisses me off having Asperger’s myself and knowing how tight my grandfather was with his older sister who had Downs.

Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:45:05am

re: #10 dragonfire1981

Creepy Joe Apraio ad popping up on LGF now:

Support Sherriff Joe’s efforts to take our country

Ummm…No.

Well, he can’t have it. >:

Bulworth Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:45:16am

leftist radicals who say such horrible things about the handicapped, about women, about the defenseless

Now I’m confused. When leftists radicals stand up for the defenseless it’s usually called “political correctness”.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:45:28am

re: #10 dragonfire1981

Creepy Joe Apraio ad popping up on LGF now:

Support Sherriff Joe’s efforts to take our country

Ummm…No.

Is it the same meaning as in “Support Arpaio’s effort to know our country”? /

Obdicut Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:45:53am

re: #11 HappyWarrior

She did get creepily attacked for having a retarded grandkid, including Sullivan’s conspiracy that it was really her kid, etc.

That was shitty, but i don’t know of any prominent ‘leftists’ who supported it.

Sullivan is not really a ‘leftist’.

lawhawk Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:46:21am

Where to start? How about with the First Amendment. She ignores the fact that this has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

Government isn’t involved here. For reference purposes - the First Amendment is a prohibition on the government’s ability to restrict speech.

It has nothing to do with Rush as a private citizen verbally attacking and defaming Sandra Fluke and the resulting anger from the public and corporations deciding to flee sponsorships over not wanting to be smeared.

As I noted in the dead thread, Rush has engaged in a pattern of action with Fluke - it wasn’t a one-off comment. That’s beyond what any of the counterexamples that were being proffered by Rush’s defenders.

And Rush has shown himself to be misogynistic in his attitudes on a regular basis. Just days before the Fluke flap, he went and called Danica Patrick “a woman driver” when she was asked about the contraception kerfuffle:

“She said, ‘I leave it up to the government to make good decisions for America.’ … What do you expect from a woman driver? I don’t know why everybody was so shocked,” Limbaugh said.

Mind you, I think Patrick was trying to avoid the issue and upsetting her fans, but Rush had to get the sexist digs in.

Stifford Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:46:40am

I guess even Mama Grizzlies are afraid of Rush’s wrath

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:47:06am

re: #15 Obdicut

She did get creepily attacked for having a retarded grandkid, including Sullivan’s conspiracy that it was really her kid, etc.

That was shitty, but i don’t know of any prominent ‘leftists’ who supported it.

Sullivan is not really a ‘leftist’.

Yeah, I defended her from that and you’re right Sullivan isn’t on the left at all. I believe he’s a huge Ron Paul fan right now.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:48:16am

re: #18 HappyWarrior

He’s all over the place and supports Paul and Romney in the R primaries, but Obama in the general. Still, he self-identifies as a conservative.

Bulworth Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:48:23am

“I think the definition of hypocrisy is for Rush Limbaugh to have been called out…”

So Limbo can never be “called out”?

Gus Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:48:47am

Great, now wingnut attorney, William A. Jacobson, gets in on the act. The clown show is expanding. P.T. Barnum would be proud.

wrenchwench Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:50:16am

forced to apologize and retract what it is that he said

He didn’t retract anything.

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:50:26am

re: #20 Bulworth

So Limbo can never be “called out”?

I guess not. She goddamn acts like Rush has been this gentile soul over the years. I don’t know what she listens to but she’s clearly hearing what she wants to hear if she thinks Limbaugh can’t be called out ever.

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:51:40am

re: #19 Saint Rush, Martyr of Lower Wingnuttia

He’s all over the place and supports Paul and Romney in the R primaries, but Obama in the general. Still, he self-identifies as a conservative.

He’s weird. Anyhow the conspiracy that Trig wasn’t really her son and actually Bristol’s was stupid. I should also point out that Obama as a candidate defended Bristol and pointed out that his mother was a teenage mom.

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Gus Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:52:04am

“So I think that’s the definition of hypocrisy, and that’s my two cents for you.”

Yes, that’s her two cents worth alright. Worth every penny. //

Eventual Carrion Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:52:29am

re: #8 Simply Sarah

[snip]

I’ll ask, even though I already know the answer: Why do you support Rush now? Why do you support the very kinds of unfair disgusting attacks you had to suffer through? Why is team (Is he even really on your team?) more important than righteousness? Than fairness? Than empathy? Why can’t you see this, Sarah?

Because that is where the money is.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:52:36am

Interesting. That guy - Mike Lester - who drew a cartoon of Obama as a pimp of Fluke as a slut is from Rome, GA, and in fact publishes cartoons in Rome News-Tribune. This is, of course, RS McCain’s home town and he wrote for the same newspaper in 1990s.

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:53:35am

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Knew she would do this. She has no credibility at all to speak about offensive language after she got upset about what Rahm Emanuel saying retard in private but had condoned it when Limbaugh did the same thing because “he’s a clever satirist”.

Well, this is the danger of condemining any Democrat/left/liberal type for saying anything. You KNOW that sooner or later, Limbaugh will do even worse on that score.

But Palin doesn’t care about the consistency much, so, OK.

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:56:09am

re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, this is the danger of condemining any Democrat/left/liberal type for saying anything. You KNOW that sooner or later, Limbaugh will do even worse on that score.

But Palin doesn’t care about the consistency much, so, OK.

That’s the problem I have with her. I mean if she had called out Limbaugh and Emanuel equally, I would give her the benefit of the doubt but she consistently shows that she’s willing to excuse right wingers acting like jerks to women, the disabled, and others and why she does I don’t know, maybe she’s afraid they will say nasty shit about her in return or she really does have that blatant a double standard. And honestly the whole Family Guy episode that she made out to be about attacking her son wasn’t attacking her son at all. I remember that episode very well. It was more an attack on people who fancy themselves psychics than kids with DS.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:56:24am

re: #28 Saint Rush, Martyr of Lower Wingnuttia

Oh.

[Link: romenews-tribune.com…]

Rome News-Tribune editorial cartoonist Mike Lester was jailed on misdemeanor charges of battery and interfering with a 911 call stemming from a domestic dispute late Thursday, reports stated.

According to reports from the Floyd County Jail:

Michael Eugene Lester, 54, of 301 E. Fifth Ave., was arrested at his home after reports stated he pushed a woman into a wall and broke the glass to his front door, causing a cut to her left elbow.

Reports stated Lester then took a cell phone from her when she said she was going to call the police.

Lester was arrested at 11:15 p.m. Thursday and was released on bail Friday.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:57:43am

Fucking creep.

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:58:38am

re: #11 HappyWarrior

It’s more of her bullshit meme that she’s been pushing since she went on the national scene that left of center people hate the handicapped and think their mothers should have had abortions. It has no basis in fact whatsoever but Palin spouts it anyhow because she’s so full of shit I think she actually believes it. That one really pisses me off having Asperger’s myself and knowing how tight my grandfather was with his older sister who had Downs.

The official word was that liberals HATED Palin for not having ended her last pregnancy.

There is, however, a significant lack of telling quotes by liberals of any even minor importance saying that. (Here, of course, we have the infamous AnneFrance.) It was just one of those things that was instinctively KNOWN.

Then, of course, we had the biology-defying Mr. Sullivan, who claimed, or sort of hinted, that Trig is Bristol’s son. Doesn’t know much about Down, our Mr. Sullivan.

prairiefire Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:59:01am

Speaking of Republican ladies, Mean Jean Schmidt is out:[Link: news.cincinnati.com…]

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 7, 2012 9:59:50am

re: #16 lawhawk

Where to start? How about with the First Amendment. She ignores the fact that this has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

Government isn’t involved here. For reference purposes - the First Amendment is a prohibition on the government’s ability to restrict speech.

It has nothing to do with Rush as a private citizen verbally attacking and defaming Sandra Fluke and the resulting anger from the public and corporations deciding to flee sponsorships over not wanting to be smeared.

As I noted in the dead thread, Rush has engaged in a pattern of action with Fluke - it wasn’t a one-off comment. That’s beyond what any of the counterexamples that were being proffered by Rush’s defenders.

And Rush has shown himself to be misogynistic in his attitudes on a regular basis. Just days before the Fluke flap, he went and called Danica Patrick “a woman driver” when she was asked about the contraception kerfuffle:

Mind you, I think Patrick was trying to avoid the issue and upsetting her fans, but Rush had to get the sexist digs in.

I think Danica Patrick should run him over.

Does that count as a call for violence?

I don’t think so. It’s just so hard for the ladies to steer while they’re putting their eye makeup on.

Gus Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:00:13am

I’m comfortable with my position on this as a center-left individual. I know I’ve shunned and objected to people making an issue about Trigger Palin and Sarah Palin’s personal life. I’ve opposed people making jokes about Anne Coulter “being a man.” I take a stand against those even on “my side.” Rush Limbaugh is wrong and there’s no amount of ideological rationalizations anyone can make about it.

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:01:42am

re: #24 HappyWarrior

He’s weird. Anyhow the conspiracy that Trig wasn’t really her son and actually Bristol’s was stupid. I should also point out that Obama as a candidate defended Bristol and pointed out that his mother was a teenage mom.

I thought that was very well done. Especially considering that the President knows as well as I do what would have been going on if Malia had been a few years older, and been pregnant during his campaign.

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:02:26am

re: #33 SanFranciscoZionist

The official word was that liberals HATED Palin for not having ended her last pregnancy.

There is, however, a significant lack of telling quotes by liberals of any even minor importance saying that. (Here, of course, we have the infamous AnneFrance.) It was just one of those things that was instinctively KNOWN.

Then, of course, we had the biology-defying Mr. Sullivan, who claimed, or sort of hinted, that Trig is Bristol’s son. Doesn’t know much about Down, our Mr. Sullivan.

Yeah the Down conspiracy sounded stupid to me because I know a little about Downs being common in children whose mothers are older. This was the case with my grandfather’s sister. She was the 9th child and he was the 10th I believe. Hell I had no problem with her being a mother at an older age. My kid brother is fourteen years younger than me and my Mom was around in her early 40’s like Sarah was with Trig when she had him. The biggest problem with Sarah Palin is Sarah Palin. She makes everything about her. Take when Congresswoman Giffords was shot, she was criticized for her rhetoric and she claims the criticism is a “blood libel.” Words can’t even express how over the top that was.

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:04:37am

re: #37 SanFranciscoZionist

I thought that was very well done. Especially considering that the President knows as well as I do what would have been going on if Malia had been a few years older, and been pregnant during his campaign.

It really was and you’re right if Malia had been pregnant, they would have been all over her and the aforementioned Limbaugh would be leading the way.

Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:04:41am

re: #36 Gus

I’m comfortable with my position on this as a center-left individual. I know I’ve shunned and objected to people making an issue about Trigger Palin and Sarah Palin’s personal life. I’ve opposed people making jokes about Anne Coulter “being a man.” I take a stand against those even on “my side.” Rush Limbaugh is wrong and there’s no amount of ideological rationalizations anyone can make about it.

And this is how it should be and, to a degree, how it used to be. Now, I know the past wasn’t exactly a shining example of tolerance, but at least it seemed in politics people could and would criticize one of their own, especially when it was just an asshole talk show host.

Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:05:37am

re: #39 HappyWarrior

It really was and you’re right if Malia had been pregnant, they would have been all over her and the aforementioned Limbaugh would be leading the way.

I’m not sure I want to even think about what that would be like. Just vaguely considering it makes me feel ill.

Kragar Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:06:03am

I think the definition …

Comedy ensues

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:07:01am

re: #41 Simply Sarah

I’m not sure I want to even think about what that would be like. Just vaguely considering it makes me feel ill.

Yeah I don’t either. We saw how nasty Mike Huckabee was to Natalie Portman and claimed she was glamorizing being an unwed mother.

Gus Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:07:21am

BIAB

JeffM70 Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:07:30am

“So I think that’s the definition of hypocrisy, and that’s my two cents for you.”

Sarah’s two cents isn’t worth half that.

ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:07:52am

re: #34 prairiefire

And so is that self-aggrandizing little shit Kucinich. That makes me happy.

Renaissance_Man Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:10:19am

I still find it a little hard to believe that, now in the 21st century, a hate-based cult that has no principles except glorifying the idea of being the biggest, bullying douchebag you can be wields such massive political power in the largest political entity in history.

I mean, humans are humans. We’re always going to give unwarranted respect and power to arseholes. Everyone does. But we usually expect them to contribute something, anything, other than just being a douche. But not here. Conservativism expects nothing more than bullying, sneering, and selfishness for their own sakes.

It is hard for me to get over the idea that the national media continues to treat this movement like something adults should consider. It is even harder for me to believe that voters continue to treat it like a legitimate philosophy. And it’s absolutely mindblowing that a philosophy no more sophisticated than the unrestrained id of an eight year old boy may well shape the future of the human race.

Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:11:09am

re: #45 JeffM70

“So I think that’s the definition of hypocrisy, and that’s my two cents for you.”

Sarah’s two cents is worth half that.

I disagree. It’s worth two cents less than anyone else’s two cents.

Interesting Times Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:12:25am

I haven’t heard one Rush Limbaugh show he shouldn’t apologize for.
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) March 7, 2012

iossarian Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:13:43am

re: #47 Renaissance_Man

Congratulations for describing the overwhelming majority of human history in three succinct paragraphs.

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:15:27am

re: #49 Interesting Times

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The guy can’t even be bearable when it comes to sports, that’s how sad his schtick is.

Bulworth Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:15:36am

All I know is, the reichwing is always the victim. /

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:16:20am

re: #52 Bulworth

All I know is, the reichwing is always the victim. /

and there’s always a kabal of leftists plotting to make the right look bad.

Kragar Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:16:29am

Ultrasound Bills Take Language From Anti-Abortion Group

Mandatory ultrasound bills — including a recent one in Virginia — are popping up in legislatures around the country. Americans United for Life, an anti-abortion group, wrote what is called a model bill, “The Woman’s Ultrasound Right to Know Act,” and appears to be responsible for at least some of the language showing up in subsequent bills being offered in state capitols. The Sunlight Foundation, which uses technology to promote government transparency, used SuperFastMatch, an automated textual analysis, to locate similar language between the model bill and 13 bills that have popped up around the country. The findings indicate that the AUL model bill’s language is present in a number of these bills.

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:17:31am

re: #54 Kragar

Ultrasound Bills Take Language From Anti-Abortion Group

It’s too bad we just had our state elections because I’d love to vote these guys out and I have one of the more crazy state senators that got in too but this is exactly why they’re doing this now. To expand on this. We’ll have house of delegates elections in 2013 but even if it’s a very Democratic year, you still won’t see the Republican majority go away there: It’s practically 2:!. The senate is more even and unfortunately has a couple of anti abortion Democrats that support these kind of measures.

Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:18:56am

re: #54 Kragar

Ultrasound Bills Take Language From Anti-Abortion Group

Yep. Many of the anti-abortion/anti-women bills going around lately are based off of model legislation or platforms from these kinds of groups. They’re doing a good job pushing their positions and make it ‘easy’ for lawmakers by giving them what is essentially a pre-made law.

SpaceJesus Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:19:31am

Uh oh

[Link: money.cnn.com…]

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:20:41am

re: #57 SpaceJesus

Uh oh

[Link: money.cnn.com…]

But Obama ruined the economy!

Kragar Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:22:23am

re: #57 SpaceJesus

Uh oh

[Link: money.cnn.com…]

Has Fox explained how those numbers are imaginary yet?

elizajane Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:24:16am

re: #59 Kragar

Has Fox explained how those numbers are imaginary yet?

It’s fewer jobs than were added in January! This proves that the economy is slowing down! Obama is destroying our country!
See, it’s easy.

Bulworth Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:27:13am

re: #57 SpaceJesus

Uh oh

[Link: money.cnn.com…]

Well, Money magazine appears to be a subsidiary of CNN, which is a network that hates Republicans and other real Americans, so whatever numbers it reports are obviously BS. //

Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:28:44am

re: #59 Kragar

Has Fox explained how those numbers are imaginary yet?

Yes. They multiplied them by the square root of -1 on the sly.
(/geek)

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:29:32am

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t either. We saw how nasty Mike Huckabee was to Natalie Portman and claimed she was glamorizing being an unwed mother.

The person I’m still angry at, as I say constantly, is Bill O’Reilly. He was a jerk when Britney Spears’ little sister got pregnant. Seventeen, with her high school sweetheart, they decided to keep the baby and get married.

O’Reilly said it was her parents’ fault.

When Bristol Palin was going through exactly the same thing, shortly thereafter, it was a ‘private matter’.

Shvaughn Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:29:51am

re: #13 Bulworth

Now I’m confused. When leftists radicals stand up for the defenseless it’s usually called “political correctness”.

“The defenseless” is an anti-choice dogwhistle.

Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:30:57am

re: #64 Shvaughn

“The defenseless” is an anti-choice dogwhistle.

Unless you’re talking about a fetus or a really bad football team.
/

Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:31:43am

re: #64 Shvaughn

“The defenseless” is an anti-choice dogwhistle.

Also see: Innocent, helpless

sunnygal Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:32:06am

re: #34 prairiefire

Unfortunately, the winner in the primary was endorsed by the area Tea Party. Let’s just hope he’s more civil and not such a wing-nut.

Kragar Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:32:45am

Jean Schmidt Loses House Seat In Major GOP Primary Upset

Obdicut Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:34:45am

re: #68 Kragar

Wow. That hellacious jerk had someone come at her from the right?

This is the woman who called Murtha a coward.

SpaceJesus Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:39:54am

re: #61 Bulworth

Indeed. Which company makes tin foil, I want to invest in them atm.

Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:40:10am

Oh, FFS. This cannot end well.

Utah Legislature Votes To Make Sex Ed Optional

The Utah legislature passed a bill (HB 363) yesterday that makes teaching sex education optional for schools and prohibits any instruction about homosexuality or the use of contraception. Parents will now have to opt their children in to such classes as opposed to having the option to opt-out, and the classes can only teach abstinence.

…

Obdicut Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:42:50am

re: #71 Simply Sarah

The class will be replaced by one involving sticking your hands over your ears and refusing to look at reality.

iossarian Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:43:39am

re: #72 Obdicut

The class will be replaced by one involving sticking your hands over your ears and refusing to look at reality.

“There are no homosexuals in Utah.”

erik_t Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:43:54am

re: #71 Simply Sarah

Oh, FFS. This cannot end well.

Utah Legislature Votes To Make Sex Ed Optional

Opt-in!?

Fucking nutters.

Sionainn Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:44:29am

re: #17 Stifford

I guess even Mama Grizzlies are afraid of Rush’s wrath

She likes him because when she first came on the scene, Rush was going on and on about what a “babe” she was.

Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:44:32am

re: #74 erik_t

Opt-in!?

Fucking nutters.

Opt-in and even then it won’t discuss contraception or homosexuality.

nines09 Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:45:42am

When I read anywhere that Sarah The Grifter said this or said that, all I can here is change dropping into a jar somewhere. That the GOP/TP thinks her “contributions” are useful just reinforces my belief that they are grasping at straws. Defending Rush. That’s a good one.

Kragar Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:46:44am

Rush Limbaugh: Sponsors are like French fries

“You drench them in garlic and olive oil and eat them till you’re sick!”

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:47:58am

re: #63 SanFranciscoZionist

The person I’m still angry at, as I say constantly, is Bill O’Reilly. He was a jerk when Britney Spears’ little sister got pregnant. Seventeen, with her high school sweetheart, they decided to keep the baby and get married.

O’Reilly said it was her parents’ fault.

When Bristol Palin was going through exactly the same thing, shortly thereafter, it was a ‘private matter’.

Typical of a guy like O’Reilly. Honest I don’t really care. I probably do agree with conservatives that it’s better for a girl to be in a committed relationship if she’s pregnant but I wouldn’t call her a slut or anything like that either.

Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:48:05am

re: #77 This just in…..

When I read anywhere that Sarah The Grifter said this or said that, all I can here is change dropping into a jar somewhere. That the GOP/TP thinks her “contributions” are useful just reinforces my belief that they are grasping at straws. Defending Rush. That’s a good one.

THE GREAT AND POWERFUL RUSH needs not the aid and sympathy of this hanger-on and wannabe replacement. Though we’ll accept tapes from her.
//

Kragar Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:49:08am

re: #71 Simply Sarah

Oh, FFS. This cannot end well.

Utah Legislature Votes To Make Sex Ed Optional

The kids would learn more watching porn on the internet.

Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:49:33am

re: #81 Kragar

The kids would learn more watching porn on the internet.

They’re going to.

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:50:58am

re: #79 HappyWarrior

Typical of a guy like O’Reilly. Honest I don’t really care. I probably do agree with conservatives that it’s better for a girl to be in a committed relationship if she’s pregnant but I wouldn’t call her a slut or anything like that either.

Oh, I’d prefer everyone to be grown-up, already settled, and to have planned the pregnancy…but life happens, and, here’s the thing, it happens to everyone.

You can’t go ‘round making one pregnant young woman an exemplar of her parents’ bad parenting, and another an exemplar of good family values and a committment to life.

Not unless you’re Bill O’Reilly, of course.

Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:51:07am

re: #82 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

They’re going to.

I sure as hell hope not. Porn is basically anti-informative on how real relationships and real sex works. “Uh, what? First off I’m pretty sure she can’t much feel or enjoy that. Second, that position must be ungodly uncomfortable.”

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:51:16am

re: #75 Sionainn

She likes him because when she first came on the scene, Rush was going on and on about what a “babe” she was.

Believe the nickname was “Governor Babe.” I got a kick out of that while the Democrats who criticized her on the issues were accused of being sexist and hating “strong conservative women.” Seemed like the only thing Rush liked about her was that he found her attractive and she spouted what he wanted to hear. I don’t find her unattractive but the way the right wing guys I knew oogled over her was pretty silly. Tina Fey is cuter and funnier anyhow.

HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:52:00am

re: #83 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, I’d prefer everyone to be grown-up, already settled, and to have planned the pregnancy…but life happens, and, here’s the thing, it happens to everyone.

You can’t go ‘round making one pregnant young woman an exemplar of her parents’ bad parenting, and another an exemplar of good family values and a committment to life.

Not unless you’re Bill O’Reilly, of course.

Yep.

Jalal bin Smokin? Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:52:09am

re: #81 Kragar

The kids would learn more watching porn on the internet.

Utah IS the largest consumer of internet pr0n.

Kragar Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:53:14am

re: #84 Simply Sarah

I sure as hell hope not. Porn is basically anti-informative on how real relationships and real sex works. “Uh, what? First off I’m pretty sure she can’t much feel or enjoy that. Second, that position must be ungodly uncomfortable.”

They would at least see a condom, which is more than the class would do for them.

Kragar Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:53:45am

re: #87 Ghost of Tom Joad

Utah IS the largest consumer of internet pr0n.

Unpossible, I don’t live there.
/

Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:54:47am

re: #88 Kragar

They would at least see a condom, which is more than the class would do for them.

Maybe. I’ve heard that lately there has been a bit of a pushback by some porn companies against them, for some reason.

Obdicut Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:55:02am

re: #84 Simply Sarah

A lot of people have real, bad sex, too.

Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:55:56am

re: #91 Obdicut

A lot of people have real, bad sex, too.

True! But porn hasn’t helped with people assuming what they see must be ‘right’, rather than “We want something that looks good (?) on film.”

Kragar Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:56:15am

re: #91 Obdicut

A lot of people have real, bad sex, too.

“Are you okay?”
“Yeah. Why?”
“You moved.”

Renaissance_Man Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:58:20am

re: #82 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

They’re going to.

They already do.

Kragar Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:58:58am

I think this video fits the discussion (and amazingly, its SFW)

Youtube Video

Obdicut Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:00:26am

re: #90 Simply Sarah

Oh, and you should watch the movie Antonia’s Line, if you haven’t already.

Obdicut Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:00:46am

re: #92 Simply Sarah

True! But porn hasn’t helped with people assuming what they see must be ‘right’, rather than “We want something that looks good (?) on film.”

What reference did people have before porn, that you feel was superior?

Blizard Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:01:03am

Oops…RL does it again!

“…What is it with all of these young single white women, overeducated — doesn’t mean intelligent…”

[Link: www.theatlanticwire.com…]

Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:02:19am

re: #97 Obdicut

What reference did people have before porn, that you feel was superior?

Well, in a way I think having no reference is superior, since then you try things out to find what works best. Awkward, to be sure, but at least it leaves open finding something works for both people.

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Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:03:16am

re: #96 Obdicut

Oh, and you should watch the movie Antonia’s Line, if you haven’t already.

I’ll look into it!

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Obdicut Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:03:44am

re: #99 Simply Sarah

Well, in a way I think having no reference is superior, since then you try things out to find what works best.

Your latter premise isn’t true, though. Normally, one partner is more experienced than the other, and they tend to be the leader. Often, this is in a coercive and/or abusive fashion.

Awkward, to be sure, but at least it leaves open finding something works for both people.

If you assume an ideal circumstance, but those same ideal people would watch porn and understand it’s acting, and not try to emulate it.

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Kragar Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:03:57am

re: #97 Obdicut

What reference did people have before porn, that you feel was superior?

Kama Sutra.

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Obdicut Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:05:12am

re: #102 Kragar

Kama Sutra.

Our Bodies, Ourselves!

Being raised in a very repressive household, that was one of the few resources I managed to nab that explained sexuality to me at all.

It’s for girls. Which actually makes it ideal for boys to learn from.

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Kragar Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:05:21am

re: #101 Obdicut

If you assume an ideal circumstance, but those same ideal people would watch porn and understand it’s acting, and not try to emulate it.

YOU MEAN ITS NOT REAL?!
/

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Renaissance_Man Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:06:35am

re: #99 Simply Sarah

Well, in a way I think having no reference is superior, since then you try things out to find what works best. Awkward, to be sure, but at least it leaves open finding something works for both people.

Before porn, we had gossip, bawdy songs, indelicate lower classes, and one room houses where you could just look if you woke up in the middle of the night.

Ah, the good old days.

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Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:07:17am

re: #101 Obdicut

Your latter premise isn’t true, though. Normally, one partner is more experienced than the other, and they tend to be the leader. Often, this is in a coercive and/or abusive fashion.

If you assume an ideal circumstance, but those same ideal people would watch porn and understand it’s acting, and not try to emulate it.

Granted, but it’s going to be coercive and/or abusive with and without porn. If anything, that just shows the need for better sex education so that’s less likely to happen.

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Renaissance_Man Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:07:37am

re: #104 Kragar

YOU MEAN ITS NOT REAL?!
/

If you have an Australian accent, it can be.

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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:08:20am

re: #105 Renaissance_Man

Before porn, we had gossip, bawdy songs, indelicate lower classes, and one room houses where you could just look if you woke up in the middle of the night.

Ah, the good old days.

Shakespeare?

109

Kragar Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:08:31am

re: #107 Renaissance_Man

If you have an Australian accent, it can be.

I turn Scottish when drunk, close enough?

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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:08:40am

re: #97 Obdicut

What reference did people have before porn, that you feel was superior?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
:)

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Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:08:53am

re: #103 Obdicut

Our Bodies, Ourselves!

Being raised in a very repressive household, that was one of the few resources I managed to nab that explained sexuality to me at all.

It’s for girls. Which actually makes it ideal for boys to learn from.

I agree it’s ideal for boys and men. If there’s one thing we’ve had demonstrated in the last week, it’s that many men don’t really understand much/anything about the women’s bodies.

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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:08:56am

Wait a second.

In the good old days, the majority of kids lived on farms.

With, you know, animals.

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Obdicut Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:08:56am

re: #106 Simply Sarah

Granted, but it’s going to be coercive and/or abusive with and without porn. If anything, that just shows the need for better sex education so that’s less likely to happen.

Sure. The answer is ‘better sex ed’, not ‘no porn’. If there was better sex ed, there’d probably be less porn, partially because people would be bangin’ more, partially because there’d be fewer women who’s sexuality had gotten fucked up and made them vulnerable to exploitation, and partially because they’d find the unrealisticness of it less attractive.

That being said, I still love Susie Bright, who was very sweet to me when I was 16.

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Renaissance_Man Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:09:04am

re: #109 Kragar

I turn Scottish when drunk, close enough?

Not for me, but odds are you aren’t my type.

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Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:11:09am

re: #113 Obdicut

Sure. The answer is ‘better sex ed’, not ‘no porn’. If there was better sex ed, there’d probably be less porn, partially because people would be bangin’ more, partially because there’d be fewer women who’s sexuality had gotten fucked up and made them vulnerable to exploitation, and partially because they’d find the unrealisticness of it less attractive.

That being said, I still love Susie Bright, who was very sweet to me when I was 16.

Of course, I think that part of what makes up ‘better sex ed’, at least for older students, would probably benefit from including stuff that would be considered porn by some.

116

Kragar Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:12:05am

re: #115 Simply Sarah

Of course, I think that part of what makes up ‘better sex ed’, at least for older students, would probably benefit from including stuff that would be considered porn by some.

You mean discussing birth control before a congressional panel?

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Renaissance_Man Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:12:47am

re: #115 Simply Sarah

Of course, I think that part of what makes up ‘better sex ed’, at least for older students, would probably benefit from including stuff that would be considered porn by some.

So you do want to teach kids how to fist. You liberals are all the same.

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Simply Sarah Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:13:24am

re: #117 Renaissance_Man

So you do want to teach kids how to fist. You liberals are all the same.

I just want to make sure they know how to do it right, dammit!

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Professional Poo Flinger Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:21:47am

re: #111 Simply Sarah

I agree it’s ideal for boys and men. If there’s one thing we’ve had demonstrated in the last week, it’s that many men don’t really understand much/anything about the women’s bodies.

You’re quite right, I’m still looking for the button.

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MtnWoman Wed, Mar 7, 2012 1:30:30pm

The Right is always quick to invoke the First Amendment, Free Speech whenever they get called on something outrageous.

However, despite they’re constant yelling about the Constitution, they don’t understand what it says.

The First Amendment does not protect anyone from me - I can ridicule what you say all I want. It protects all of us from government interference.

And on the sponsors pulling out, isn’t this the Free Market at work that they so revere?

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MtnWoman Wed, Mar 7, 2012 1:35:20pm

re: #120 MtnWoman

Oops, I was on the wrong thread.

But on this issue. I’ve always been a single parent. My daughter was born in 1969 when single parenthood was still frowned upon.

My daughter was never in trouble of any kind - no drugs, no alcohol, no police. She graduated from Boston University and has gone back to school and almost completed her Master’s Degree.

I bet there are far more problems in these 2-parent, Father Knows Best families like this guys.

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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 7, 2012 2:30:50pm

re: #112 To hold my temper, most of the time.

Wait a second.

In the good old days, the majority of kids lived on farms.

With, you know, animals.

Prior to the sexual revolution, farm animals only mated behind closed doors with the lights out, and slept in separate stalls.

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krypto Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:28:58pm

I noticed that there was a lot of gloating on many rightwing blogs yesterday that Carbonite’s stock had allegedly dropped by some 12% after they pulled out of sponsoring Limbaugh’s program (it was down only 8.7% when I checked to see if the 12% part was true — it clearly wasn’t). This they claimed was caused by the strong reaction of Carbonite shareholders in support of Rush Limbaugh.

(See for instance [Link: www.sodahead.com…] )

Obviously that claim was sheer invention. The Dow Jones had dropped by more than 200 points that day, and just about every stock was down by a lot — and the Limbaugh righties had simply picked out the one stock that had the largest one day drop among the 32 or more who abandoned Limbaugh. In fact, Carbonite stock seems to have shown a progressive decline over the last 12 months. As far as common sense and anything noticeable seems to suggest, their stock price had nothing to do with Limbaugh.

And of course, Carbonite stock was up by 3% today on a more modest Dow Jones increase.

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