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Breitbart Brain Trust Completely Destroys Own Websites

Breitbart’s heirs: the C team
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At Breitbart.com, all the little mini-Breits are scurrying around today, still trying to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear and hype their absurdly stupid attacks on President Obama for introducing Prof. Derrick Bell at Harvard 21 years ago.

Oh wait, I forgot — Obama hugged Prof. Bell too. When two black men hug, the republic is in horrible danger.

The latest smear they’re trying to float: they’re calling Prof. Bell a “racialist,” which is, of course, the term that white nationalists often use to describe themselves. Classy! OBAMA: ‘Open Up Your Hearts and Your Minds’ to Racialist Prof.

But meanwhile, as they were preparing to unleash this mind-shattering BOMBSHELL on the world, and destroy Barack Obama’s chances of reelection, they actually did succeed in destroying something besides their reputation — their own website.

Check out what happens if you click on any link at Google to articles at Big Government, Big Journalism, or Big Peace.

Yes, it’s true. All the direct links to old articles at all the “Big” sites are broken. They all redirect to the front page of breitbart.com.

That means no one who’s searching for an article at one of their sites can get to it through Google or Yahoo or Bing or any other search engine. I wonder how long it will take the Breitbart brain trust to notice that their traffic to thousands and thousands of articles has suddenly completely stopped? (Probably not long, now that I’m posting this.)

It’s been this way all week. When they redesigned breitbart.com (and got rid of its news feed services), they apparently changed their URL schema without even thinking about what would happen to the millions of existing links out there, and completely hosed all of their search results.

And it’s not just search engines; all links to their old articles at all websites are broken. Links at blogs, news sites, places like Digg and Reddit and LGF — all broken.

And they haven’t even noticed yet.

These are the geniuses who are going to carry on Andrew Breitbart’s legacy.

UPDATE at 3/8/12 1:51:25 pm

Alexa’s statistics are not the most accurate, but their graph of biggovernment.com’s traffic shows what happens when you totally screw up all incoming links to old articles:

(via Symbolman.)

UPDATE at 3/8/12 2:17:08 pm

Quantcast verifies the precipitous dive:

UPDATE at 3/8/12 2:50:38 pm

The six-month graph from Alexa shows a dizzying drop:

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241 comments

1 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:00:50am

Give them enough Inter-rope...

2 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:02:59am

URGENT: .NET DEVELOPER

3 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:03:26am

I think the teabagGOP is trying for less than 5% of the African American vote this year. /

4 jamesfirecat  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:04:46am

///Keep fucking that chicken!

5 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:05:19am

"The Internet....it's a series of tubes..."

6 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:06:38am
Yes, it’s true. All the direct links to old articles at all the “Big” sites are broken. They all redirect to the front page of Breitbart.com.

LMAO—poetic justice! #faceplant

7 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:09:09am

Between this and the video derp with Bell, not only did they shoot themselves in the foot, but they reloaded and shot the other one for good measure.

8 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:13:29am

Les Incompetents.

9 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:13:54am

re: #7 Kragar
Just give them a little more time and they will have nothing left to shoot. /

10 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:14:00am

re: #8 HappyWarrior

Big Incompetents.

11 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:14:12am

Tee. Hee. Hee.

12 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:14:19am

The Breitbart Simpsons?

13 Simply Sarah  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:16:18am

I have to say that I'm impressed. It took them no time at all to muck everything up once Andrew was gone. I guess he really was that important. And I don't care if logic suggests these things are unrelated, I like to think they're tied directly together.

14 Coracle  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:16:23am

Edit note - Isn't the year of the vid '91? That'd make it 21 years ago, rather than 14.

15 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:16:36am

Steven Seagal, Joe Arpaio Deputies Sued For Reality Show Tank Raid

Jesus Llovera has filed a civil lawsuit against Seagal and members of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office SWAT team for a raid they conducted in March, 2011, based on allegations that Llovera was involved in cockfighting. Llovera filed a separate claim against Seagal and Arpaio’s deputies last fall.

Llovera, who previously pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor of being present at a cockfight, was suspected of raising roosters and chickens on his property to fight, a felony, and also a violation of his probation.

The Sheriff’s Office, which used “a tank, a bomb robot and 40 deputies,” according to the Arizona Republic, accidentally killed over 100 of Llovera’s roosters and his 11-month old dog during the course of the raid.

Several cameras were there to film the incident for the A&E program. Afterwards, producers tried to get Llovera to sign a release for the episode. He refused.

Llovera’s suit claims that the raid was conducted for the purposes of the show, and is part of a pattern of Arpaio “arresting and prosecuting individuals without probable cause solely for the selfish and improper purposes of achieving personal and political gain through publicity,” the Republic reports.

16 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:17:51am

"That means no one who’s searching for an article at one of their sites can get to it through Google."

And it isn't just Google. It is also Yahoo! and Bing as well. They have destroyed links to their articles in all the Search Engines.

17 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:18:17am
That means no one who’s searching for an article at one of their sites can get to it through Google. I wonder how long it will take the Breitbart brain trust to notice that their traffic to thousands and thousands of articles has suddenly completely stopped? (Probably not long, now that I’m posting this.)

Oh that. We meant for that to happen.

18 Tumulus11  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:18:36am

. The Breitbart team is working on a fix. Within hours all links will redirect to a Rick Astley video.

19 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:18:48am

re: #14 Coracle

Edit note - Isn't the year of the vid '91? That'd make it 21 years ago, rather than 14.

Thanks, I corrected it. I confused it with their other GIANT BOMBSHELL, the dreaded Alinsky play.

20 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:19:03am

re: #14 Coracle

Edit note - Isn't the year of the vid '91? That'd make it 21 years ago, rather than 14.

That's what's so sinister about Obama. /

21 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:19:26am

re: #16 Bubblehead II

"That means no one who’s searching for an article at one of their sites can get to it through Google."

And it isn't just Google. It is also Yahoo! and Bing as well. They have destroyed links to their articles in all the Search Engines.

It's not just the search engines, either. All links to their old articles at ALL sites are broken.

22 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:20:17am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Thanks, I corrected it. I confused it with their other GIANT BOMBSHELL, the dreaded Alinsky play.

CHARLES JOHNSON RETROACTIVELY EDITS POSTS

23 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:20:31am

re: #18 Tumulus11

. The Breitbart team is working on a fix. Within hours all links will redirect to a Rick Astley video.

They're hip...

24 Coracle  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:21:29am

Wait. He does something radical controversial every 7 years?! It's like Pon Farr. He's not just not an american citizen. He's not even HUMAN! He's a Vulcan-Socialist

25 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:21:53am

re: #15 Kragar

Steven Seagal, Joe Arpaio Deputies Sued For Reality Show Tank Raid

They thought there was a nirth certifikit in there.

26 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:22:04am

re: #22 Ministry of Fairness and Balance

CHARLES JOHNSON RETROACTIVELY EDITS POSTS

...

Charles Johnson retroactively destroys links at Little Green Footballs in an effort to throw past opinion down the MEMORY HOLE!!11ty

Derp.

Yeah. Could you imagine?

27 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:22:08am

re: #24 Coracle

And 7 + 7 + 14 = 2012!! //

28 S.D.  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:23:17am

"still trying to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear"?
That's really a great expression and very true here!

Did you guys see the Soledad O’Brien interview?
Highlights on Think Progress. She did a great job pointing out "Where's the scandal?"

The 'editor' fell back on his 'Main Steam Media' BS...

29 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:24:15am

re: #21 Charles Johnson

It's not just the search engines, either. All links to their old articles at ALL sites are broken.

I stand in complete awe at the gross incompetence on display over there.

Anybody want to takes odds on them not having a current backup of their sites before they started to muck around with them?

30 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:24:51am

I guess it's not too shocking that they're outraged over this video. I mean The Lorax is controversial in certain right wing circles as are The Muppets.

32 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:26:00am

re: #29 Bubblehead II

Oh, that would involve admitting a mistake. I don't think they can do that.

33 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:26:07am

re: #30 HappyWarrior

I guess it's not too shocking that they're outraged over this video. I mean The Lorax is controversial in certain right wing circles as are The Muppets.

Well, if you play the video backwards it says "Kill Whitey". //

34 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:26:50am

re: #21 Charles Johnson

It's not just the search engines, either. All links to their old articles at ALL sites are broken.

I'm sitting here giggling, imagining the horror of realization hitting them, followed by sheer panic and lots of finger-pointing & bug-eyed, spittle-flecked recriminations.

Does that make me a bad person? //

35 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:27:29am

re: #31 Kragar

Apologetic Rush Limbaugh starts attacking another woman on his show, 2nd one this week

Rush will be telling all of us the truth in a few days that girls and women have cooties. What is this dude's problem with women?

36 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:27:40am

re: #34 CuriousLurker

Maybe that was a calculated move? Nah, I'm too kind./

37 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:28:29am

re: #34 CuriousLurker

I'm sitting here giggling, imagining the horror of realization hitting them, followed by sheer panic and lots of finger-pointing & bug-eyed, spittle-flecked recriminations.

Does that make me a bad person? //

Undoubtedly, they're being sabotaged by pro-Obama Chicago union thugs. //

38 Mattand  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:29:20am

Question: is it possible this is some sort of suicide mission on Brietbart.com's part? What I mean is, they're obviously invested in the Harvard video being the BOMBSHELL that will take down Obama. Is it possible they purposely are redirecting everything to that page in some attempt to Google bomb Obama?

I realize this theory falls apart once you have to move on from the Harvard video, but we ain't talking about a group of Einsteins here.

39 dragonfire1981  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:29:23am

Obama broke the links! It's a conspiracy!

40 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:30:35am

re: #31 Kragar

Apologetic Rush Limbaugh starts attacking another woman on his show, 2nd one this week

What Rush, you think if you spell it out, that it saves you from being accused of using the word?

I really am waiting for fat-ass to just throw caution truly to the wind and start dropping the f-bombs and c-words. Because he apparently doesn't think enough of his listeners to cut back on the misogyny for awhile.

41 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:30:56am

re: #34 CuriousLurker
No you are not a bad person. I am getting a good laugh over it.

42 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:31:17am

re: #38 mattand

Question: is it possible this is some sort of suicide mission on Brietbart.com's part? What I mean is, they're obviously invested in the Harvard video being the BOMBSHELL that will take down Obama. Is it possible they purposely are redirecting everything to that page in some attempt to Google bomb Obama?

I realize this theory falls apart once you have to move on from the Harvard video, but we ain't talking about a group of Einsteins here.

No, there are big banners for that.

43 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:31:32am

re: #40 Targetpractice

What Rush, you think if you spell it out, that it saves you from being accused of using the word?

I really am waiting for fat-ass to just throw caution truly to the wind and start dropping the f-bombs and c-words. Because he apparently doesn't think enough of his listeners to cut back on the misogyny for awhile.

Don't retreat, reload!

Double down and down another double cheeseburger!

44 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:32:10am

re: #31 Kragar

Apologetic Rush Limbaugh starts attacking another woman on his show, 2nd one this week

I'm concerned this will only intensify the boycott.

//

45 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:32:16am

re: #38 mattand

Question: is it possible this is some sort of suicide mission on Brietbart.com's part? What I mean is, they're obviously invested in the Harvard video being the BOMBSHELL that will take down Obama. Is it possible they purposely are redirecting everything to that page in some attempt to Google bomb Obama?

I realize this theory falls apart once you have to move on from the Harvard video, but we ain't talking about a group of Einsteins here.

I don't think so. Breitbart was holding on to the video to release later. They decided to release it after his death but the video by itself is dull and uninteresting without Andrew's showmanship and antics to hype it. He just can't be replaced.

46 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:32:44am

re: #38 mattand

Is it possible they purposely are redirecting everything to that page in some attempt to Google bomb Obama?

It would be a colossally stupid move on their part to risk pissing off Google.

47 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:33:23am

re: #44 Gus

I'm concerned this will only intensify the boycott.

//

I'm outraged!

48 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:33:46am

re: #43 Ministry of Fairness and Balance

Don't retreat, reload!

Double down and down another double cheeseburger!

49 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:33:56am

re: #34 CuriousLurker

Nah, probably everybody on the web with a sense of humor is having a laugh at their expense.

50 Interesting Times  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:34:02am

re: #46 CuriousLurker

It would be a colossally stupid (and therefore plausible) move on their part to risk pissing off Google.

Fixed.

51 Sionainn  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:34:08am

re: #23 Kragar

They're hip...

[Embedded content]

That was weird and neat, all rolled into one.

52 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:34:14am

re: #47 Killgore Trout

I'm outraged!

I'm outraged at your outrageous outrage

53 Mattand  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:34:38am

re: #46 CuriousLurker

It would be a colossally stupid move on their part to risk pissing off Google.

True. These are also the same people accusing PBS and Buzzfeed of releasing deceptively edited video without an ounce of irony in their statements.

54 simoom  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:35:32am

Did anyone catch Soledad O'Brien's (a Harvard alum herself) reaction to the Breitbart crap this morning?

[Link: cnn.com...]

It's basically WTF is this moronic BS!?

55 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:35:36am

re: #53 mattand

True. These are also the same people accusing PBS and Buzzfeed of releasing deceptively edited video without an ounce of irony in their statements.

Well when Breitbart died the pundits on Fox were crying about people speaking ill of the newly deceased.

56 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:36:52am

re: #50 Interesting Times

Fixed.

re: #53 mattand

True. These are also the same people accusing PBS and Buzzfeed of releasing deceptively edited video without an ounce of irony in their statements.

Can't argue with that. ;)

57 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:36:59am

re: #52 Kragar

I'm outraged at your outrageous outrage

Meh.
/ contrarian

58 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:37:13am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

Well when Breitbart died the pundits on Fox were crying about people speaking ill of the newly deceased.

Apparently Derrick Bell doesn't count since he's long deceased. Which of course means you can make shit up.

59 Mattand  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:37:52am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

Well when Breitbart died the pundits on Fox were crying about people speaking ill of the newly deceased.

My dog has a better memory than your average Fox News anchor, pundit, or viewer.

Drools less, too.

60 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:37:58am

re: #58 Gus

Apparently Derrick Bell doesn't count since he's long deceased. Which of course means you can make shit up.

Not too long since he passed away on October 5, 2011.

61 teresa  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:38:18am

Oh hahahahaha, if I could stop laughing I might have something coherent to say... buuuuuuut I can't.stop.laughing!

62 b_Snark  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:38:31am

I just took a look at the breitbartian video where Charles Ogletree claimed they 'hid' the part of the Bell/Obama videa where Obama praised (it sounded like a normal intro to me) Bell and then hugged him. Charles Ogletree said 'we hid it in 2008'. Any idea who 'we' might be? Was he being serious or flippant?

63 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:38:45am

re: #58 Gus

Apparently Derrick Bell doesn't count since he's long deceased. Which of course means you can make shit up.

Well if you're a black academic who advocates views that Fox's viewers are uncomfortable with then you're free game. But if you're a professional shit-stirrer like Andy was then criticism is verboten.

64 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:39:00am

re: #54 simoom

Did anyone catch Soledad O'Brien's (a Harvard alum herself) reaction to the Breitbart crap this morning?

[Link: cnn.com...]

It's basically WTF is this moronic BS!?

Pollak is such a tool.

65 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:39:02am

re: #57 Killgore Trout

Meh.
/ contrarian

"Contrarian" is too high and mighty a word for what you've been doing recently ;)

66 Interesting Times  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:39:55am

re: #58 Gus

Apparently Derrick Bell doesn't count since he's long deceased. Which of course means you can make shit up.

67 Mattand  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:41:06am

I'm half tempted to post something over there about their Google juice being busted, and telling them they oughta thank Charles for catching it.

That should be entertaining...

68 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:41:21am

I get a kick out of how they act like Obama's views in 1991 must be what his views are now. I mean take aside that there's nothing wrong with this video and add that to it. If we wanted to play that game, we'd point out time and time again that guys like Horowitz, Spencer, and others were actually communists at one point in their lives.

69 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:41:37am

4 years ago, I was a solid Republican and would have laughed at you if you told me I would ever be anything else. In the aftermath of the 2008 election, with the total lack on any real ideas coming from the GOP or the right, and their insistence on following the Tea Party birther, xenophobic bandwagon, it made me take a good long look at what they stood for and lead me to the conclusion that I wanted nothing to do with them. This descent into madness by a major political party is not something I would ever have dreamed of seeing in my lifetime.

70 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:41:48am

Look, AB was a media huckster. He saw the "coverup" as another story that would produce the maximum amount of hype for the content, but, in the end, would have only been preaching the choir and served as confirmation of the preconceived notions held by all those who despise Obama.

Which, of course, means major airplay on Fox.

71 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:41:52am

re: #57 Killgore Trout

Meh.
/ contrarian

No, I'm not.

72 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:43:27am

re: #71 Kragar

No, I'm not.

No, you are.

73 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:44:01am

re: #69 Kragar

In my pessimistic mode, I see this as a sign of the overall decline of the level of basic education in our country: Basic science. Basic civics. Basic logic. Basic literacy.

All sorely lacking and lead to a massive decline in our ability to elect leaders who will govern us to our mutual benefit.

74 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:44:29am

re: #72 Creeping Diversity

No, you are.

I disagree.

75 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:44:38am

re: #73 Ministry of Fairness and Balance

Aaron Burr nearly got elected president, and he was a horrendous cockbag.

76 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:44:40am

re: #54 simoom

Did anyone catch Soledad O'Brien's (a Harvard alum herself) reaction to the Breitbart crap this morning?

[Link: cnn.com...]

It's basically WTF is this moronic BS!?

Thanks for providing the link.

What a load.

77 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:45:17am

re: #74 Kragar

I disagree.

I'm not sure.

78 Mattand  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:45:40am

re: #69 Kragar

4 years ago, I was a solid Republican and would have laughed at you if you told me I would ever be anything else. In the aftermath of the 2008 election, with the total lack on any real ideas coming from the GOP or the right, and their insistence on following the Tea Party birther, xenophobic bandwagon, it made me take a good long look at what they stood for and lead me to the conclusion that I wanted nothing to do with them. This descent into madness by a major political party is not something I would ever have dreamed of seeing in my lifetime.

I generally vote Democratic and would be classified as liberal, but to be honest, the Republicans' sojourn into Crazy Town worries me a lot. Mainly because I'm under no illusion that the Dems are the be-all and end-all for solving our country's problems.

We're in this together, and we're handicapped as it is by a two party system. When one of those parties decides that the country needs to become a theocracy, with many civil right rolled back to, say, 1703, that's a problem.

79 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:46:16am

It's interesting listening to Joel Pollak. He's working backwards with regards to Obama and this alleged "relationship" with Derrick Bell. At this rate then anyone that had any sort of relationship with Derrick Bell is a radical. Of course these people have a low threshold for radicalism. If we go back and note the radicalism of David Horowitz for example who was completely immersed in what they would call radicalism. It's a but like watching "wingnut theory" at work.

80 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:46:19am

re: #75 Obdicut

Aaron Burr nearly got elected president, and he was a horrendous cockbag.

That ws hundreds of years ago when we were still a fledgling republic just being carved out of the wilderness. I am talking about a period after we had become the world's leading superpower.

81 Sionainn  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:47:14am

re: #54 simoom

Did anyone catch Soledad O'Brien's (a Harvard alum herself) reaction to the Breitbart crap this morning?

[Link: cnn.com...]

It's basically WTF is this moronic BS!?

I wish all reporters would treat bozos this way. The world would be a better place if they did.

82 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:48:14am

re: #54 simoom

Did anyone catch Soledad O'Brien's (a Harvard alum herself) reaction to the Breitbart crap this morning?

[Link: cnn.com...]

It's basically WTF is this moronic BS!?

I trust the man when he says "Don't believe me."

83 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:48:20am

Obama is a vastly more known quantity than he was in 2008. 2008 tricks won't work, wingnuts.

84 Sionainn  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:48:35am

re: #62 Tundra Boy

I just took a look at the breitbartian video where Charles Ogletree claimed they 'hid' the part of the Bell/Obama videa where Obama praised (it sounded like a normal intro to me) Bell and then hugged him. Charles Ogletree said 'we hid it in 2008'. Any idea who 'we' might be? Was he being serious or flippant?

He was chuckling when he said it, so I think he was joking.

85 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:49:32am

re: #83 Creeping Diversity

Obama is a vastly more known quantity than he was in 2008. 2008 tricks won't work, wingnuts.

Not only that but beyond 2008 since we're looking at a video tape from 1991. Ask yourself, where were you in 1991 and what were your beliefs then?

86 jamesfirecat  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:50:07am

re: #85 Gus

Not only that but beyond 2008 since we're looking at a video tape from 1991. Ask yourself, where were you in 1991 and what were your beliefs then?

I was two years old.... so yeah.

87 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:50:44am

David Horowitz:

The Horowitz family broke with the American Communist Party after the publication of Nikita Khrushchev's Secret Speech in 1956. According to Horowitz,

"The publication of the Khrushchev Report was probably the greatest blow struck against the Soviet Empire during the Cold War. When my parents and their friends opened the morning Times and read its text, their world collapsed -- and along with it their will to struggle. If the document was true, almost everything they had said and believed was false. Their secret mission had led them into waters so deep that its tide had overwhelmed them, taking with it the very meaning of their lives."[8]

Beginning in the early 1960s, Horowitz lived in London as an employee of the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation.[9] Regarding himself as a serious Marxist intellectual, Horowitz was disturbed when, in 1966, Ralph Schoenman persuaded Bertrand Russell to convene a war crimes tribunal to judge American involvement in the Vietnam War.[10] According to Horowitz, the tribunal's judges, who included Isaac Deutscher, Jean-Paul Sartre, Stokely Carmichael, Simone de Beauvoir, James Baldwin, and Vladimir Dedijer, soon degenerated into a feuding rabble.[11] See Russell Tribunal.

During his time in London, Horowitz was also a close friend of Deutscher, of whom he published a biography in 1971.[12][13]

Horowitz then wrote The Free World Colossus: A Critique of American Foreign Policy in the Cold War. In January 1968, Horowitz returned to the United States and became editor of the New Left magazine, Ramparts.

During the early 1970s, Horowitz developed a close friendship with Black Panther Party founder Huey P. Newton. In Horowitz's subsequent writings, Newton is depicted as equal parts gangster, terrorist, intellectual, and media celebrity.

As part of their work together, Horowitz helped raised money for Newton and assisted with the running of a school for the children of Party members. He further recommended that Newton hire a bookkeeper, Betty Van Patter, who was then working for Ramparts. In December 1974, Van Patter's murdered body was found floating in San Francisco Harbor.[14] Horowitz, who was certain that the Panthers were responsible, had his suspicions confirmed by several Party members. He has cited that experience as the catalyst which led him to reject Marxism completely.

88 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:50:50am

re: #85 Gus

Yes, and Obama went almost unscathed through the 24/7 Wright thing. I mean, how stupid can they be?

89 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:51:15am

re: #84 Sionainn

He was chuckling when he said it, so I think he was joking.

Here's the full video of Prof. Ogletree's speech, and yes, he was very obviously joking. They pulled about three seconds out of a half hour talk. More lies and misrepresentations from the mini-Breits.

[Link: dubois.fas.harvard.edu...]

90 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:51:19am

re: #83 Creeping Diversity

Obama is a vastly more known quantity than he was in 2008. 2008 tricks won't work, wingnuts.

They barely worked in 2008. They worked so well against Kerry in 2004 because he had absolutely nothing likeable or charming about him. The muck stuck.

So they tried the same approach with Obama in 2008, overlooking the fact that most people, save for the extreme bigoted right, rather liked the guy, even if they did not agree with his politics.

And it backfired to the point that the poo they were flinging bounced back and stuck to them.

91 Alexzander  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:52:48am

I really love how the bombshell video had been online thanks to PBS for three years.
Too perfect a story really.

92 simoom  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:52:54am

re: #62 Tundra Boy

Was he being serious or flippant?

I'm guessing it was just a joke, based on the lecture audience's reaction, though the clip is cut so short (intentionally, I imagine) on both ends that it makes it harder to tell. Ignoring Ogletree example specifically though, I'd be shocked if it wasn't actually the case that a number of the President's former college friends and professional acquaintances received a barrage of media inquiries during the 2008 election and were politically astute enough to understand the potential consequences of providing lots of seemingly bland information to RW-muckrakers.

If introducing and hugging a prominent & respected professor is enough to transfer responsibility for all his past and future writings, any minor details of the President's college life, for example a seminar he attended, someone he tutored, or people in a study group, opens further Pandora's Boxes for smears by association.

93 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:53:56am

re: #62 Tundra Boy

I just took a look at the breitbartian video where Charles Ogletree claimed they 'hid' the part of the Bell/Obama videa where Obama praised (it sounded like a normal intro to me) Bell and then hugged him. Charles Ogletree said 'we hid it in 2008'. Any idea who 'we' might be? Was he being serious or flippant?

I'm sure this would make more sense if only there were two or three chalkboards available.

'Glenn Beck': Who Is Charles Ogletree?

[...]

The old Black Panthers and the New Black Panthers call for that. He was part of this. OK, or at least he edited to the newspaper. I'm sure he was uninvolved other than that.

This past May — this is where it gets interesting — Ogletree received an award from the Ella Baker Center for Social Justice. Ella Baker, where have I heard that before? Oh, yes. Yes, that's right. That's right. Ella Baker — who started that? Van Jones. Also, the Black Liberation Army. Black Liberation Army. Black liberation — oh, black liberation theology — that's right. That's Jeremiah Wright theology.

The Black Liberation Army — there was a violent shoot-out of the Black Panthers in the 1970s and they stormed a police station and opened fire, killing a San Francisco area cop. The case was eventually dropped after they were allegedly tortured during the investigation.

In 2005, suspects were arrested after refusing to answer grand jury questions about the case. Coming to their defense, Danny Glover and Charles Ogletree. Finally, Charles Ogletree has a few powerful friends, including Michelle and Barack Obama. Here he is:

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

FIRST LADY MICHELLE OBAMA: And then there is my friend and former law school professor, Charles Ogletree, product of the Merced Public Schools.

(APPLAUSE)

Now, he is an example of how you can bring your skills back. His ambitions took him far away from home, but he has never forgotten where he came from.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BECK: OK. He taught both of the Obamas at Harvard. He says he advised them and then continues to advise them now, saying, quote, "They have not hesitated to call me over the past 20-plus years as needed."

Now, I wonder if Obama called during the Henry Gates debacle. You remember that, right? Where Obama said the police acted stupidly before he knew any of the facts. Gates' lawyer? Charles Ogletree. Gosh.

Go read it all. Stop laughing!11

94 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:54:33am

re: #92 simoom

If introducing and hugging a prominent & respected professor is enough to transfer responsibility for all his past and future writings, any minor details of the President's college life, for example a seminar he attended, someone he tutored, or people in a study group, opens further Pandora's Boxes for smears by association.

Those boxes have not just been opened, they have been smashed to bits and the contents scattered throughout the room

95 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:55:09am

re: #93 wrenchwench

I'm sure this would make more sense if only there were two or three chalkboards available.


Go read it all. Stop laughing!11

Bring back Glenn Beck!

96 allegro  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:57:02am

re: #93 wrenchwench

I'm sure this would make more sense if only there were two or three chalkboards available.

Go read it all. Stop laughing!11

Translation: Obama is BLACK!

97 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:57:37am
98 Lidane  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:58:05am

re: #85 Gus

Not only that but beyond 2008 since we're looking at a video tape from 1991. Ask yourself, where were you in 1991 and what were your beliefs then?

I can answer that. I was graduating from high school in 1991 and my only beliefs at the time were about getting the hell away from high school and starting college. Heh.

99 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:58:23am
100 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:58:32am

re: #77 Creeping Diversity

I'm not sure.

Moderate!

101 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:58:36am

Bell worked with Thurgood Marshall.

Is Thurgood Marshall now a 'racialist' too?

Seems like the main qualities for that title are being a black person who doesn't think everything is peachy-keen for black people in the US.

102 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:58:42am

The next Big Government bombshell.

"A black man once committed a crime in the same state Obama lived in, why did the President remain silent?"

103 Lidane  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:59:51am

re: #91 Emmanuel Levinas

I really love how the bombshell video had been online thanks to PBS for three years.
Too perfect a story really.

That's the funniest part of all this nonsense.

The wingnuts are running around screaming ZOMG BOMBSHELL while the folks at PBS just quietly point out that they've had the full video online for over three years now, and that anyone can go look at it any time.

104 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:59:56am

And their links are still broken...

105 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:59:57am

re: #102 Kragar

Why isn't the DOJ investigating this crime? Can you say race-based coverup?

106 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:00:11am

re: #100 Killgore Trout

Moderate!

And a pretty extreme one at that!/

107 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:00:12am
MALKIN: And one of the singular accomplishments and I said this last week, and I will continue to say it as we go through this election of Andrew Breitbart and the team that has survived him and is now thriving, is the fact that they refuse to cede, c-e-d-e, the narrative to the left. And it is about time that we vet the pres. That is now a very popular hash tag on twitter and launched a new company called twitchy.com. And I think in a way, it's in the same spirit of Andrew Breitbart, of continuing to forge a revolutionary space, in new media to push back at the warped media. And look, this is a guy whose associations with people who believed in liberation theology, as you expose during the 2008 election cycle, Sean, and who embraced someone who believe in the radical extreme theory, called critical race theory, which blamed white people for everyone's guilt, which is poisonously anti-Semitic has never been scrutinized, by reporters who will send an entire armies down to Texas, to go literally turn over rocks to try and smear.

She's been listening to too much Palin...

108 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:01:16am

re: #107 wrenchwench

The Michelle "good thing Japs were interned" Malkin?

109 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:01:25am

re: #101 Obdicut

Bell worked with Thurgood Marshall.

Is Thurgood Marshall now a 'racialist' too?

Seems like the main qualities for that title are being a black person who doesn't think everything is peachy-keen for black people in the US.

I'm pretty sure they seriously think so.

It's funny, but still kinda scary.

110 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:01:48am
111 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:02:31am

re: #108 Creeping Diversity

The Michelle "good thing Japs were interned" Malkin?

Who I just claimed in the last thread was not worth reading, and here I quote her...

What's wrong with me?!?

112 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:02:44am

re: #107 wrenchwench

She's been listening to too much Palin...

What a garbles mess. But sure, please, go to Texas and dig....

113 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:02:47am

re: #107 wrenchwench

One of the things critical race theory does is point out that what Jews have gotten in the way of civil rights they've fought and struggled for. The main thesis-- though this is a massive oversimplification-- is that the white political establishment never willingly cedes power or grants rights to minorities except when it's in its own vested best interest. I don't think it's absolutely correct, but it's certainly correct more often than I'd like.

114 allegro  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:02:57am

re: #107 wrenchwench

She's been listening to too much Palin...

twitchy.com... sounds about right to describe the "thriving" mini-Breit team.

115 SteelGHAZI  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:03:00am

re: #85 Gus

I believe I was just starting Kindergarten then..

116 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:04:20am

re: #113 Obdicut

TBH, what I've read very superficially about that theory I didn't quite like. But then again, proponents are entitled to these opinions.

117 Lidane  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:04:52am

re: #108 Creeping Diversity

The Michelle "good thing Japs were interned" Malkin?

The fact that she defended internment still blows my mind. WTF.

I'd love to see George Takei knock her down a few pegs over that.

118 b_Snark  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:05:05am

re: #84 Sionainn

He was chuckling when he said it, so I think he was joking.

I'd be interested in seeing the rest of his talk, just to make sure the breitbartians haven't edited the clip dishonestly.

119 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:05:18am

re: #112 Bulworth

What a garbles mess. But sure, please, go to Texas and dig...

I think she meant the media will turn over rocks in Texas to find out what a racist Rick Perry is, but are trying to cover up the EXTREME RACIALISM OF HARVARD LAW PROFESSORS...

120 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:05:24am

Check this out: apparently the mini-Breits actually did this on purpose.

121 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:05:38am

re: #117 Lidane

The fact that she defended internment still blows my mind. WTF.

I'd love to see George Takei knock her down a few pegs over that.

She was laying a road for internment of Arabs and Muslims.

122 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:06:03am
123 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:06:29am

re: #120 Charles Johnson

Check this out: apparently the mini-Breits actually did this on purpose.

I've got mini-people around here who make big messes on purpose, too.

Their excuse is that they're pretty young.

124 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:06:35am

re: #121 Creeping Diversity

She was laying a road for internment of Arabs and Muslims.

But don't call THEM fascists. ;)

125 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:06:43am

re: #120 Charles Johnson

I think that means they wanted the "new engine" and with that there was no option but to have broken links.

126 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:06:52am

re: #118 Tundra Boy

I'd be interested in seeing the rest of his talk, just to make sure the breitbartians haven't edited the clip dishonestly.

See #89

127 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:07:04am

re: #120 Charles Johnson

Check this out: apparently the mini-Breits actually did this on purpose.

@Lizardoid One of the junior Breitbarts told me "there was no option -- the whole site structure changed radically." #webmalpractice

— Rogers Cadenhead (@rcade) March 8, 2012

Radicals!!1!

128 erik_t  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:07:15am

re: #120 Charles Johnson

Check this out: apparently the mini-Breits actually did this on purpose.

My carpet at home was kinda crummy and dusty. Unfortunately there was no option - I had to burn the place down.

129 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:07:49am

re: #125 Creeping Diversity

I think that means they wanted the "new engine" and with that there was no option but to have broken links.

There is always an option. No decent web designer would ever even think of simply breaking millions of existing links.

130 Lidane  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:08:01am

re: #113 Obdicut

The main thesis-- though this is a massive oversimplification-- is that the white political establishment never willingly cedes power or grants rights to minorities except when its in its own vested best interest.

There's a lot of truth to that. Slavery and Jim Crow laws would never have ended on their own had the decision been left to the majority. Same goes for minorities and women getting the vote.

I'm not saying I agree with all of it, but that's because I don't fully understand it yet. Wikipedia and the bits of reading I've done so far aren't enough. But yeah, I can see it.

131 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:08:06am

re: #116 Creeping Diversity

There's a lot of aspects I think are unworkable, like an insistence that moving beyond racial prejudice is not practically possible, and that the best we can do is establish political, social, and economic safeguards to counteract racial privilege. I think there's a practical middle-ground to be had.

But as a critique, it's very, very relevant, and a lot of the critiques of the way that civil rights have progressed are very apt; only when a group itself has gained actual political power has that group made large strides.

132 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:08:39am

re: #131 Obdicut

There's a lot of aspects I think are unworkable, like an insistence that moving beyond racial prejudice is not practically possible, and that the best we can do is establish political, social, and economic safeguards to counteract racial privilege. I think there's a practical middle-ground to be had.

But as a critique, it's very, very relevant, and a lot of the critiques of the way that civil rights have progressed are very apt; only when a group itself has gained actual political power has that group made large strides.

I read the wiki article on CRT last night.
Went completely over my head.
:/

133 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:08:54am

re: #120 Charles Johnson

That's... I mean, I'm not a web guru, but how hard is it to redirect an incoming link? Even if you did them by hand, it's just a bunch of typing.

134 Lidane  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:09:04am

re: #121 Creeping Diversity

She was laying a road for internment of Arabs and Muslims.

Arab and Muslim Americans, yes. By defending the fact that we interned Japanese Americans. It was nauseating.

135 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:09:47am

In fact, here is the back cover: "I am not advocating rounding up all Arabs or Muslims and tossing them into camps."

[Link: books.google.ru...]

That she had to make such a disclaimer is the most illuminating thing about her book.

136 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:09:48am

DIY Home Bacon Smoker

137 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:10:07am

re: #130 Lidane

On the other hand, slavery did end because of the actions of a largely white population. Bell would say it was in the best interests of the North, but I'd say that's an oversimplification; hell, the end of slavery was also in the best interests of the south.

Ironically, Critical Race Theory pitfalls to the same problem that libertarianism does; people usually don't recognize their own best self-interest anyway.

138 erik_t  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:10:31am

re: #133 Obdicut

That's... I mean, I'm not a web guru, but how hard is it to redirect an incoming link? Even if you did them by hand, it's just a bunch of typing.

Presumably you had some coherent directory structure beforehand and you will have some coherent directory structure afterward; mapping between the two should be dead simple to do dynamically and automatically.

139 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:11:18am

re: #138 erik_t

Well yeah, but I meant worst-case scenario, you could still just type up a big list of the old and the new and hand-match them. Oh well. Laziness abounds.

140 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:11:19am

re: #133 Obdicut

That's... I mean, I'm not a web guru, but how hard is it to redirect an incoming link? Even if you did them by hand, it's just a bunch of typing.

obama site:biggovernment.com

About 115,000 results (0.12 seconds)

A whole lot of typing.

(you don't fix that by hand)

141 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:11:26am

re: #138 erik_t

Presumably you had some coherent directory structure beforehand and you will have some coherent directory structure afterward; mapping between the two should be dead simple to do dynamically and automatically.

Well, they thought nuking it from orbit was the way to go.
XD

142 Interesting Times  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:11:28am

re: #129 Charles Johnson

There is always an option. No decent web designer would ever even think of simply breaking millions of existing links.

Fucking 301 redirects, how do they work?

143 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:11:53am

re: #142 Interesting Times

Fucking 301 redirects, how do they work?

Aliens.

144 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:12:20am

re: #141 Varek Raith

Well, they thought nuking it from orbit was the way to go.
XD

NUKING IT FROM ORBIT IS ALWAYS THE WAY TO GO!

145 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:12:23am

re: #138 erik_t

Presumably you had some coherent directory structure beforehand and you will have some coherent directory structure afterward; mapping between the two should be dead simple to do dynamically and automatically.

People with coherent directory structures are obviously snobs. //

146 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:13:05am

re: #135 Creeping Diversity

In fact, here is the back cover: "I am not advocating rounding up all Arabs or Muslims and tossing them into camps."

[Link: books.google.ru...]

That she had to make such a disclaimer is the most illuminating thing about her book.

Critical word, there.

147 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:13:22am

Hilarious Tweet from biggovt:

Derrick Bell: Liberal Whites Are Oppressors: It's been established that Barack Obama counseled his fellow Harvar...

Really? These kinds of opinions are new and shocking to them? These people claim to be political "wonks" and they're surprised when they read that a black intellectual says things like "liberal whites are oppressors"?

If that's even what he said of course. But those kinds of theories and/or opinions are now almost as old as dirt.

They really need to get out more.

148 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:13:33am

re: #140 Kragar

Well, it's not plan A, but if you had been that much of an idiot to let your DB go into wrack and ruin that you couldn't automate it, you'd need to assemble it into some sort of order anyway.

149 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:13:42am

re: #135 Creeping Diversity

In fact, here is the back cover: "I am not advocating rounding up all Arabs or Muslims and tossing them into camps."

[Link: books.google.ru...]

That she had to make such a disclaimer is the most illuminating thing about her book.

And also, again, the book is called In Defense of Internment (not even "the Internment"). Which title belies the disclaimer.

150 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:14:05am

re: #146 Decatur Deb

Critical word, there.

Yes, she would spare Joseph Farah.

151 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:14:10am
152 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:14:36am

It's like a right-wing train wreck in slow motion. Started in 2008.

153 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:14:48am

re: #151 Gus

Fucking lunatic.

154 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:15:12am

re: #148 Obdicut

Well, it's not plan A, but if you had been that much of an idiot to let your DB go into wrack and ruin that you couldn't automate it, you'd need to assemble it into some sort of order anyway.

I would think one could script a solution that would alter all the URLs with out the need to individually go in an manually change each one.

155 Lidane  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:15:13am

re: #137 Obdicut

Like I said, I can kind of see it in theory, since I've read little bits and pieces about critical race theory, but I don't have a full grasp on it yet. Wikipedia and some online articles aren't enough.

So far, it seems to make sense and I can understand his point. I just need to read more.

156 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:15:22am

re: #147 Gus

Hilarious Tweet from biggovt:

Really? These kinds of opinions are new and shocking to them? These people claim to be political "wonks" and they're surprised when they read that a black intellectual says things like "liberal whites are oppressors"?

If that's even what he said of course. But those kinds of theories and/or opinions are now almost as old as dirt.

They really need to get out more.

I think this is the equivalent of freaking out over a former member of MEChA being elected to something.

157 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:16:08am

re: #113 Obdicut

Given that white people pretty much had run of the planet for most of the 19th and 20th centuries, it is not wrong to apportion them a fair share of the blame for all the ugly shit that happened...

158 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:16:39am

re: #151 Gus

Tell him to head to tornado country and start quoting that shit.

159 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:16:45am

re: #153 Creeping Diversity

Fucking lunatic.

Sez so in the Bible!

It's OUTRAGEOUS! that anyone thinks otherwise.

Derp.

160 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:17:30am

re: #158 Kragar

Tell him to head to tornado country and start quoting that shit.

The dolt is from tornado country.

161 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:17:39am
163 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:18:24am

re: #151 Gus

The Bible also doesn't mention dinosaurs. Is he one of those loonies that says that the fossils are just here to "test us"?

164 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:18:42am

re: #160 Decatur Deb

The dolt is from tornado country.

I'd call the man a tool, except tools serve a purpose.

165 b_Snark  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:19:21am

re: #136 Killgore Trout

DIY Home Bacon Smoker

[Embedded content]

I smoked bacon once, but I didn't inhale.

166 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:19:30am

re: #163 Targetpractice

The Bible also doesn't mention dinosaurs. Is he one of those loonies that says that the fossils are just here to "test us"?

Dinosaurs Mentioned in the Bible and We Now Know the Purpose of Their Existence

167 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:19:48am

re: #163 Targetpractice

The Bible also doesn't mention dinosaurs. Is he one of those loonies that says that the fossils are just here to "test us"?

Bacteria is the greatest hoax foisted upon man!

168 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:20:14am

re: #164 Kragar

I'd call the man a tool, except tools serve a purpose.

And Wrenchwench would smoke your ass. She has a thing about tools.

169 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:20:49am

re: #156 wrenchwench

I think this is the equivalent of freaking out over a former member of MEChA being elected to something.

It's from sooper-genius Dan "There's Black People on this Subway!" Riehl. You know the one that sends perverted Tweets to Charles. A real professional.

Ironic though isn't it? Where have we heard that "liberal whites are oppressors" of black people before? Oh I know. That comes from, wait for it, conservatives!

170 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:21:03am

re: #165 Tundra Boy

I smoked bacon once, but I didn't inhale.

10 yard penalty.

171 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:21:25am

Heh, here's the Yahoo headline about the Breitbart "bombshell":

'Bombshell' video of Obama falls flat

So not only does Andy go to his grave as reviled as ever, but his last hurrah is a dud.

172 neilk  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:21:48am

Was Breitbart doing the web stuff himself or something?

173 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:22:20am

re: #171 Targetpractice

Commie Kenyan killed him for nothing? :(

/

174 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:23:09am

re: #54 simoom

Did anyone catch Soledad O'Brien's (a Harvard alum herself) reaction to the Breitbart crap this morning?

[Link: cnn.com...]

It's basically WTF is this moronic BS!?

I now love Soledad. What a great clip. Wish more were like her.

175 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:26:57am

Only thing funnier than the Breitbart headline is the one Yahoo! has for our favorite Crazy Uncle:

Ron Paul's pointless Internet presidency

And it comes accompanied by the perfect picture.

176 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:27:04am

re: #173 Creeping Diversity

Commie Kenyan killed him for nothing? :(

/

He used his Moozlamic Raygunz!

//

177 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:28:48am

Republican Lawmaker Now Supports Obama, Says GOP Presidential Candidates ‘Would Take Women Back Decades’

New York Assemblyman Teresa Sayward (R), who is retiring after serving a decade in Albany, told the New York political program Capital Tonight that she does not support any of her party’s presidential candidates, because of their stances on women.

She also took an apparent shot at Republicans’ opposition to President Obama’s birth control mandate, saying, “It’s disheartening for me to see our party move away from what it was always about and that is to stay out of people’s lives, let them live their lives, don’t impose their religion on anybody else.”

Asked which Republican candidate she supports, Sayward replied:

SAYWARD: I do not have a favorite in the presidential race, if I had to vote today, I’d vote for Obama.

INTERVIEW: Really?

SAYWARD: Absolutely… Because I really, truly think that the candidates that are out there today for the Republican side would take women back decades.”

178 Lidane  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:29:09am

ZOMG RINO!

179 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:29:35am

re: #177 Kragar

Lots of retiring Republicans support Obama. Few have the guts to say it while they're in office.

180 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:30:03am

re: #179 Obdicut

Lots of retiring Republicans support Obama. Few have the guts to say it while they're in office.

You noticed that to?

181 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:30:57am

re: #179 Obdicut

Lots of retiring Republicans support Obama. Few have the guts to say it while they're in office.

I also notice that a lot of those retiring are generally the "moderates" who are being threatened with, if not currently facing, primary challenges from Tea Party candidates.

182 Interesting Times  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:31:04am

re: #174 Iwouldprefernotto

I now love Soledad. What a great clip. Wish more were like her.

Soledad's Celebrity Jeopardy score

Wolf Blitzer's Celebrity Jeopardy score

183 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:31:24am

re: #138 erik_t

Presumably you had some coherent directory structure beforehand and you will have some coherent directory structure afterward; mapping between the two should be dead simple to do dynamically and automatically.

Yep. This is not rocket surgery.

I just checked the old vs. new link schema, and it would be embarrassingly simple to set up redirects. I have to think that at some point they'll realize they're losing a hell of a lot of traffic and get someone to do it.

184 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:31:51am

A collection of articles about the CRT can be previewed at Google Books:

Critical race theory: the cutting edge

The first article is by Bell. There's at least one article tackling the question of antisemitism.

185 simoom  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:32:03am

The RW blogosphere is furiously digging through video archives for anything that mentions Derrick Bell. PJMedia thinks they've found their next "bombshell" in 4-seconds of a 1988 sit-in news video clip:

[Link: openvault.wgbh.org...]

J. Christian Adams@PJMedia:

I found that Barack might not be the only Obama on the tapes.

In May 1988, Harvard Law students, borrowing from Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals, and foreshadowing the Occupy movement of 2011, occupied the Harvard Law School’s dean’s office. The students were supporting Professor Derrick Bell’s demand that the law school hire professors on the basis of race.

One of the students “dressed in black” and occupying the dean’s office appears to be Michelle Obama (Harvard Law ’88). Here is a link to the grainy video. (lower right at about ten seconds in, wearing white Keds)

...

It is important to note that I had the opportunity to review all of the original Betamax videotapes in Boston where the video quality was significantly higher than the internet version. While there is some chance this is not Michelle trespassing and “occupying” the dean’s office for racial hiring preferences, the Betamax video version leaves very little doubt it is her. Perhaps someone in the mainstream media will ask the East Wing if Michelle Obama participated in a trespassing occupation of the Harvard Law School dean’s office to demand race-based hiring of professors.

BTW, what's with the bizarre quotation marks around “dressed in black” in the above blockquote?

Anyway, this is yet another example of all things old being new again. I have no idea if that's actually a young Michelle Obama in the video, but it wouldn't actually be news if it was. There were a number of articles from the 2008 campaign that already covered that ground, for example:
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

Michelle Obama was never much interested in calling attention to herself. As an undergrad at Princeton in the 1980s, she was interested in social change, but didn't run for student government. Instead, she spent her free time running a literacy program for kids from the local neighborhoods. At Harvard Law, she took part in demonstrations demanding more minority students and professors. Yet unlike another more prominent Harvard Law student who would later take up the cause, she was not one to hold forth with high-flown oratory about the need for diversity. "When [Barack Obama] spoke, people got quiet and listened," recalls Prof. Randall Kennedy. "Michelle had a more modest, quieter, lower profile." Barack won election as president of the Law Review. Michelle put her energy into a less glamorous pursuit: recruiting black undergrads to Harvard Law from other schools. For her, politics wasn't so much about being inspirational as it was being practical—about getting something specific done, says Charles Ogletree, one of her professors. "She was not trying to get ahead."

186 Randall Gross  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:33:47am

Does their comment per article count seem down, or do they normally average that few comments?

187 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:34:17am

"for Michelle Obama was not trying to get ahead"

you see? MICHELLE OBAMA HATES SUCCESS!!!

/

188 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:34:25am

re: #184 Creeping Diversity

Heh. That's a pretty excellent takedown of a lot of antisemitic stereotypes.

189 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:35:27am

re: #185 simoom

The RW blogosphere is furiously digging through video archives for anything that mentions Derrick Bell. PJMedia thinks they've found their next "bombshell" in 4-seconds of a 1988 sit-in news video clip:

[Link: openvault.wgbh.org...]

J. Christian Adams@PJMedia:

BTW, what's with the bizarre quotation marks around “dressed in black” in the above blockquote?

Anyway, this is yet another example of all things old being new again. I have no idea if that's actually a young Michelle Obama in the video, but it wouldn't actually be news if it was. There were a number of articles from the 2008 campaign that already covered that ground, for example:
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

What a feeble grasp of history they have.

190 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:35:50am

re: #185 simoom

The RW blogosphere is furiously digging through video archives for anything that mentions Derrick Bell. PJMedia thinks they've found their next "bombshell" in 4-seconds of a 1988 sit-in news video clip:
[Link: openvault.wgbh.org...]
J. Christian Adams@PJMedia:

BTW, what's with the bizarre quotation marks around “dressed in black” in the above blockquote?

Anyway, this is yet another example of all things old being new again. I have no idea if that's actually a young Michelle Obama in the video, but it wouldn't actually be news if it was. There were a number of articles from the 2008 campaign that already covered that ground, for example:
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

You have got to be kidding.

191 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:36:30am

GOP strategist: Focus on economy can win back Latino, women voters

Yeah, cutting their services in the name of debt reduction and raising their taxes while you give companies tax breaks will completely distract them from the oppressive laws you've been attacking them with. Good call.

192 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:37:18am

I gotta fix a bike. I'll be back for more laughs in a bit.

193 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:39:13am

I'm also kind of gobsmacked, by the way, that Breitbart's acolytes have tossed out all the news feeds that used to be the main purpose of Breitbart.com. That had to be a big moneymaker -- Drudge Report constantly linked to news articles at Breitbart.com, and that's good for millions of page views.

They're just tossing all that away.

194 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:39:35am

re: #191 Kragar

GOP strategist: Focus on economy can win back Latino, women voters

Yeah, cutting their services in the name of debt reduction and raising their taxes while you give companies tax breaks will completely distract them from the oppressive laws you've been attacking them with. Good call.

“An awful lot of the discussion on immigration involves tone,” Ayres said. “You cannot come across as someone who doesn’t care about the concerns of Latinos. There’s not unanimity among Hispanics about what should be done about immigration, but there is certainly unanimity that they don’t want someone who acts like they don’t care about the votes and support of Latinos.”

He just described GOP minority policy in a nutshell.

195 simoom  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:40:14am

re: #190 Charles Johnson

You have got to be kidding.

Dim Hoft is on the case too:
[Link: www.thegatewaypundit.com...]

Go Figure… Michelle Obama Was an #Occupier For Racial Justice While at Harvard

Well, what do you know?
Who would have thought that when we elected Obama we got two agitators in one! In fact Michelle Obama was a young #occupier for racial justice while at Harvard, too… Just like Barack.

196 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:40:45am

re: #193 Charles Johnson

I'm also kind of gobsmacked, by the way, that Breitbart's acolytes have tossed out all the news feeds that used to be the main purpose of Breitbart.com. That had to be a big moneymaker -- Drudge Report constantly linked to news articles at Breitbart.com, and that's good for millions of page views.

They're just tossing all that away.

Breitbart was in it for the money, they're in it for the cause.

197 Alexzander  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:40:54am

re: #186 Randall Gross

Does their comment per article count seem down, or do they normally average that few comments?

I think some of the recent departures have slowed things down a tad. Or at the very least, things tend to speed up immediately before a departure as the topics of discussion tend to be more controversial/emotional.

198 iossarian  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:41:25am

re: #194 Ministry of Fairness and Balance

“An awful lot of the discussion on immigration involves tone,” Ayres said. “You cannot come across as someone who doesn’t care about the concerns of Latinos. There’s not unanimity among Hispanics about what should be done about immigration, but there is certainly unanimity that they don’t want someone who acts like they don’t care about the votes and support of Latinos.”

He just described GOP minority policy in a nutshell.

"Don't actually do anything for anyone else, but make it look like you might one day if the circumstances allowed."

199 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:42:15am

re: #195 simoom

I'd like to see Hoft or any of these other assholes asked "And what were the general conditions that blacks were protesting back in those days?"

200 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:42:19am

re: #196 Kragar

Breitbart was in it for the money, they're in it for the cause.

That is the sign of a successful leader: he can get you to believe in his "cause" while you are turning him a tidy profit at the same time.

201 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:42:40am

re: #196 Kragar

Breitbart was in it for the money, they're in it for the cause.

That's probably a pretty accurate observation.

202 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:43:08am

re: #198 iossarian

"Don't actually do anything for anyone else, but make it look like you might one day if the circumstances allowed."

I thought their policy was "If we get them back in their proper place we don't have to worry about their votes anyways."

203 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:43:10am

re: #195 simoom

Dim Hoft is on the case too:
[Link: www.thegatewaypundit.com...]

Ha! Again they're working backwards. Now they're trying to attach "Occupy Wall Street" to something she did decades ago! But hey here's how it works. Michelle Obama was an "#occupier." OWS = Occupy AIPAC = anti-Semites! Therefore, Michelle Obama is an anti-Semite!

Derp.

204 iossarian  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:43:50am

re: #202 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I thought their policy was "If we get them back in their proper place we don't have to worry about their votes anyways."

Sh! Don't give it away!

Also, compassionate conservatism.

205 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:43:53am

re: #196 Kragar

Breitbart was in it for the money, they're in it for the cause.

Yeah, but Breitbart was a true believer too. He just wasn't quite as stupid as these mooks.

206 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:44:15am

re: #199 Obdicut

I'd like to see Hoft or any of these other assholes asked "And what were the general conditions that blacks were protesting back in those days?"

That's the thing too. I can work backwards too. The Breitbart camp, Hoft, Riehl, etc? Well, I can put them in the George Wallace camp of yesteryear.

207 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:45:55am

re: #205 Charles Johnson

Yeah, but Breitbart was a true believer too. He just wasn't quite as stupid as these mooks.

One can be a believer, but still realized the purpose of a business is to conduct business. His followers think the goal is to preach the word of Breitbart now.

208 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:46:26am

re: #196 Kragar

Even the cause needs money. To willingly throw that all away? Dumb. Stupendously dumb.

But if they're not going to redirect, how about sending some of that traffic my way (or Charles' for that matter). That's got to mean some serious coin to someone.

209 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:47:02am

re: #207 Kragar

Consult the book of armaments, and bring me the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch. /

210 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:48:41am

re: #209 lawhawk

Consult the book of armaments, and bring me the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch. /

I can't. The link doesn't work anymore.

211 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:49:05am

re: #191 Kragar

GOP strategist: Focus on economy can win back Latino, women voters

Yeah, cutting their services in the name of debt reduction and raising their taxes while you give companies tax breaks will completely distract them from the oppressive laws you've been attacking them with. Good call.

Yeah, just like they were so focused on jobs back in '10.

You know, before they actually got elected and then spent the last year trying to cram all sorts of social BS down our throats. Let's ask Bob McDonnell how many jobs will be created by cramming wands up women to shame them for seeking an abortion.

212 Kragar  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:50:50am

re: #211 Targetpractice

Yeah, just like they were so focused on jobs back in '10.

You know, before they actually got elected and then spent the last year trying to cram all sorts of social BS down our throats. Let's ask Bob McDonnell how many jobs will be created by cramming wands up women to shame them for seeking an abortion.

I hear the manufacturing of ultrasound equipment is going to be a booming business.

213 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:53:47am

re: #207 Kragar

One can be a believer, but still realized the purpose of a business is to conduct business. His followers think the goal is to preach the word of Breitbart now.

I think the Breibart dynasty if you well was a based around a cult of personality. That being Andrew Breitbart. With his passing we're going to see a lot of poor imitations being thrown to the media which was once the sole domain of Andrew himself. We saw such and example this morning with Mr. Pollak who mealy mouthed performance on CNN was no match to the past performance of Andrew -- for better or for worse. Expect a lot of cheap imitations.

214 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:54:50am

re: #211 Targetpractice

Yeah, just like they were so focused on jobs back in '10.

You know, before they actually got elected and then spent the last year trying to cram all sorts of social BS down our throats. Let's ask Bob McDonnell how many jobs will be created by cramming wands up women to shame them for seeking an abortion.

Santorum certainly follows that line of thinking: he sees our economic decline rooted in the demise of the "traditional" family.

215 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:55:33am

re: #214 Ministry of Fairness and Balance

Santorum certainly follows that line of thinking: he sees our economic decline rooted in the demise of the "traditional" family.

Indeed, the man's solution to so many people in poverty is to promote marriage as a "solution."

216 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:58:04am

That's it.

I am going to create my own news network.

LNN.

Lawhawk news network.
We're laying down the law on news and commentary on daily events.
Bump music? Stuck in the Middle - because there's nothing but clowns on the left and jokers on the right.

Who's with me? /blutarsky

217 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 11:58:24am

Intelligence Report, Spring 2012, Issue Number: 145
The 'Patriot' Movement Explodes

The radical right grew explosively in 2011, the third such dramatic expansion in as many years. The growth was fueled by superheated fears generated by economic dislocation, a proliferation of demonizing conspiracy theories, the changing racial makeup of America, and the prospect of four more years under a black president who many on the far right view as an enemy to their country.

The number of hate groups counted by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) last year reached a total of 1,018, up slightly from the year before but continuing a trend of significant growth that is now more than a decade old. The truly stunning growth came in the antigovernment “Patriot” movement — conspiracy-minded groups that see the federal government as their primary enemy.

The Patriot movement first emerged in 1994, a response to what was seen as violent government repression of dissident groups at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, in 1992 and near Waco, Texas, in 1993, along with anger at gun control and the Democratic Clinton Administration in general. It peaked in 1996, a year after the Oklahoma City bombing, with 858 groups, then began to fade. By the turn of the millennium, the Patriot movement was reduced to fewer than 150 relatively inactive groups...

218 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:01:38pm

re: #217 Gus

Including actual states endorsing militias.

219 Flounder  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:03:22pm

I have to run for the day, but this Breitbart website fiasco should remind all of us that one day we may not be here, hopefully not for a long while. A lot of mom and pop businesses don't survive passing on to their heirs. We all should have an updated last will, (control freaks can write their own obits) and if you own a business, you should assure some sort of leadership change if the worse happens. Charles, if something should (god forbid) happen to you, will LGF go on?
I certainly hope so.

220 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:05:04pm

And another thing! Used to be a trend to be a "radical" in college. Beer, smoke dope, sex, study, go to protests, join some radical groups, and get your degree. Then once you graduate you straighten up your act and start a career. In fact this is still a trend with most students. Whether they be on the left or the right. While there are fewer right wing radicals in college they're still there. If this is an example of Obama's radicalism it's certainly not surprising and isn't even close to extremism of any sorts.

221 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:06:26pm
222 b_Snark  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:06:28pm

If anyone is interested, I listened to the Ogletree lecture and I was right, the Breitbartians did edit the video to misrepresent what Ogletree was saying.

He was joking about a group of colleagues who looked much younger in the video being upset he found that particular segment after 'they', the colleagues worried about their aging, kept it hidden in 2008. It had nothing to do with hiding damning evidence of Obama having a relationship with Bell.
BTW, Obama never had any classes with Bell, according to Ogletree, so Obama may have made the introduction as a function of his position at the school (speculation on my part).

224 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:09:22pm

re: #223 Gus

Here he is again on the upper-left.

Using wingnut logic: Norm Coleman = anti-war protestor = communist hippie = North Vietnam sympathizer = Jane Fonda!

In which I shrug.

225 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:10:55pm

re: #217 Gus

It's only a matter of time before America has another OKC or a Utoya occur.

re: #218 Obdicut

And I wouldn't be surprised if one of those militias do it.

226 Gus  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:11:45pm
227 b_Snark  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:13:06pm

Can anybody download the quicktime video of the Ogletree lecture for me? Nothing I've tried works.

[Link: dubois.fas.harvard.edu...]

228 Lidane  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:15:32pm

re: #226 Gus

Of course they did. It's okay when you're a Republican.

229 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:16:04pm

re: #227 Tundra Boy

Can anybody download the quicktime video of the Ogletree lecture for me? Nothing I've tried works.

[Link: dubois.fas.harvard.edu...]

Right click on "click to play" -> Download linked file as ...

230 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:16:35pm

And here's part of why I don't want to go back to COS:

And Colorado Springs in January turned off about a third of its streetlights and put the police helicopters up for sale, the Denver Post reported.

Last I saw at the beginning of the recession, the crime rate between COS and DEN were about equal. I wouldn't be surprised if COS now has more crime than DEN.

231 Lidane  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:19:19pm
232 b_Snark  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:23:01pm

re: #229 goddamnedfrank

Right click on "click to play" -> Download linked file as ...

My popup says nothing about downloading the linked file.

233 dragonfire1981  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:24:03pm

re: #217 Gus

The swelling of the Patriot movement since that time has been astounding. From 149 groups in 2008, the number of Patriot organizations skyrocketed to 512 in 2009, shot up again in 2010 to 824, and then, last year, jumped to 1,274. That works out to a staggering 755% growth in the three years ending last Dec. 31. Last year’s total was more than 400 groups higher than the prior all-time high, in 1996.

Are there a lot more racists in this country than I thought there were?

234 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:27:19pm

re: #233 dragonfire1981

Yep.

235 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:30:32pm

re: #233 dragonfire1981

The swelling of the Patriot movement since that time has been astounding. From 149 groups in 2008, the number of Patriot organizations skyrocketed to 512 in 2009, shot up again in 2010 to 824, and then, last year, jumped to 1,274. That works out to a staggering 755% growth in the three years ending last Dec. 31. Last year’s total was more than 400 groups higher than the prior all-time high, in 1996.

Are there a lot more racists in this country than I thought there were?

Probably a booming business in photocopying supplies, internet servers, and USB drives for the various groups to organize and send out their talking points. Probably good markets in a few other areas as a result as well.

236 simoom  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:32:54pm

re: #232 Tundra Boy

My popup says nothing about downloading the linked file.

What happens if you click the link directly?

[Link: s3.amazonaws.com...]

237 b_Snark  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:38:00pm

re: #236 simoom

What happens if you click the link directly?

[Link: s3.amazonaws.com...]

It allows me to save it. D'oh.

I'm downloading it on linux using wget right now as well.

238 makeitstop  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 12:41:32pm

re: #207 Kragar

One can be a believer, but still realized the purpose of a business is to conduct business. His followers think the goal is to preach the word of Breitbart now.

Jogging suits and Nikes for everyone!
/

239 sagehen  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 1:15:02pm

re: #191 Kragar

GOP strategist: Focus on economy can win back Latino, women voters

Yeah, cutting their services in the name of debt reduction and raising their taxes while you give companies tax breaks will completely distract them from the oppressive laws you've been attacking them with. Good call.

As the occasionally wise Grover Norquist pointed out, you can't win votes by telling people you're going to deport their mothers.

240 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 1:33:11pm

re: #195 simoom

Dim Hoft is on the case too:
[Link: www.thegatewaypundit.com...]

Go Figure… Michelle Obama Was an #Occupier For Racial Justice While at Harvard

Well, what do you know?
Who would have thought that when we elected Obama we got two agitators in one! In fact Michelle Obama was a young #occupier for racial justice while at Harvard, too… Just like Barack.

Can't have agitators in public office, where would the country be then? Oh that's right, our founding fathers were agitators for equal justice. We wouldn't have a fucking country without agitators.

See: Declaration of Independence for those radical agitators manifesto.

241 William of Orange  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 1:51:56pm

The google cache still gives some results.


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