Jonathan Coulton: Sticking It to Myself

I’m the man now, and I’m sticking it to myself

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In honor of the shiny-faced mini-Breits at breitbart.com, who’ve provided us with a hilarious week’s worth of wingnut fake outrages, capped off by breaking all existing links on all sites to all their previous articles, here’s Jonathan Coulton and Phil Hernandez with “Sticking It To Myself.”

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104 comments

Bubblehead II Thu, Mar 8, 2012 3:44:18pm

What is even more hilarious, is that having taken down their own sites through total stupidity, they have doubled down by refusing to restore them using backups to return them to their previous condition until they figure out how to properly make the changes they wanted in the first place.

You guys were doing backups?

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 8, 2012 3:48:47pm

re: #1 Bubblehead II

Maybe they've just gone all stealthy!!

Shhhhh!!!!!!!

Targetpractice Thu, Mar 8, 2012 3:49:22pm

re: #1 Bubblehead II

What is even more hilarious, is that having taken down their own sites through total stupidity, they have doubled down by refusing to restore them using backups to return them to their previous condition until they figure out how to properly make the changes they wanted in the first place.

You guys were doing backups?

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

So, instead of restoring from backups and then making the changes when they figure out what went wrong, they're just going to leave things fucked up until they feel they've figured it out.

It's actually sad to think that Andy was the only thing keeping this "brain trust" running.

Charles Johnson Thu, Mar 8, 2012 3:51:37pm

re: #1 Bubblehead II

What is even more hilarious, is that having taken down their own sites through total stupidity, they have doubled down by refusing to restore them using backups to return them to their previous condition until they figure out how to properly make the changes they wanted in the first place.

You guys were doing backups?

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

They don't even have to do that much. All the content's still there. It should be just a matter of setting up some simple 301 Redirect mapping.

Targetpractice Thu, Mar 8, 2012 3:55:16pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

They don't even have to do that much. All the content's still there. It should be just a matter of setting up some simple 301 Redirect mapping.

That's assuming that these morons have the mental bandwidth to accomplish that without totally cocking it up.

Bubblehead II Thu, Mar 8, 2012 3:55:38pm

re: #2 sattv4u2

Could be. Because Charles posted a Tweet from someone that they knew this was going to happen. Why knowing this would occur and then going ahead and doing it boggles the mind.

Charles Johnson Thu, Mar 8, 2012 3:56:34pm

Hey @DLoesch and @joelpollak - in case you need a few tips: 301 Redirect - How to create Redirects is.gd/vyQZuO
— Charles Johnson (@Lizardoid) March 8, 2012

sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 8, 2012 3:58:37pm

re: #6 Bubblehead II

Could be. Because Charles posted a Tweet from someone that they knew this was going to happen. Why knowing this would occur and then going ahead and doing it boggles the mind.

I have long ago given up trying to figure what motivates others. I see the end result and more often than not just say "heh"! and move on to things that are of import to me and mine!

BongCrodny Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:00:22pm

Pam Dawber is 60.

I am *so* old.

Bubblehead II Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:09:03pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

They don't even have to do that much. All the content's still there. It should be just a matter of setting up some simple 301 Redirect mapping.

Will have to research that. I am not a web guru. My experience with running a Board has been limited to the the dial-up world of BBSing. I always made a weekly back up and anytime I made a software/hardware change to the setup just because, Shit Happens.

Perhaps it is different now a days.

/// Which way to the Tar Pits?

b_sharp Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:09:35pm

re: #10 Bubblehead II

Will have to research that. I am not a web guru. My experience with running a Board has been limited to the the dial-up world of BBSing. I always made a weekly back up and anytime I made a software/hardware change to the setup just because, Shit Happens.

Perhaps it is different now a days.

/// Which way to the Tar Pits?

Look down.

Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:10:32pm

re: #3 Targetpractice

So, instead of restoring from backups and then making the changes when they figure out what went wrong, they're just going to leave things fucked up until they feel they've figured it out.

It's actually sad to think that Andy was the only thing keeping this "brain trust" running.

Well, if O'Keeffe was his ace reporter, you can imagine what his code monkeys are like.

Bubblehead II Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:10:59pm

re: #11 Tundra Boy

Look down.

SHIT!

Kragar Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:17:28pm

Rush Limbaugh’s Show Airs Over 5 Minutes Of Dead Air As Ad Boycott Continues

Targetpractice Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:17:42pm

Well, assuming The Blaze is being honest here, it seems that Limbaugh is fiddling as his show burns:

The Blaze: LIMBAUGH REJECTS COMPANY THAT SUSPENDED ADS FROM SHOW OVER FLUKE REMARKS

So a company tries to come back after only suspending its ads, but Rush's ego will not allow him to welcome them back into the fold.

darthstar Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:19:08pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

They don't even have to do that much. All the content's still there. It should be just a matter of setting up some simple 301 Redirect mapping.

I'm just glad they're giving Breitbart's memory the respect it deserves.

Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:20:05pm

Arrr mateys! Happy Purim!

Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:22:29pm

re: #17 Learned Mother of Zion

Arrr mateys! Happy Purim!

How often does Purim fall on 'Talk Like a Pirate' Day?

b_sharp Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:22:42pm

If anybody wants to see the videos from my page, you'll have to go to the LGF pages to view them. For some reason they don't show up on the regular pages.

Bubblehead II Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:22:46pm

re: #17 Learned Mother of Zion

Arrr mateys! Happy Purim!

Evening Alouette.

bubba zanetti Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:23:50pm

I'll just leave this here:

[Link: defendrush.org...]

b_sharp Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:24:49pm

re: #21 bubba zanetti

I'll just leave this here:

[Link: defendrush.org...]

I was about to tell you the mop is in the closet.

Gus Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:25:03pm

Still not seeing the videos here: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Kragar Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:25:38pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

Well, assuming The Blaze is being honest here, it seems that Limbaugh is fiddling as his show burns:

The Blaze: LIMBAUGH REJECTS COMPANY THAT SUSPENDED ADS FROM SHOW OVER FLUKE REMARKS

So a company tries to come back after only suspending its ads, but Rush's ego will not allow him to welcome them back into the fold.

Why would a company that decided to leave Rush return so soon while the news is still fresh?

Obdicut Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:25:59pm

re: #23 Gus

Yep, I'm not either. I was having some problems with linking videos the other day, too.

darthstar Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:26:24pm

re: #21 bubba zanetti

I'll just leave this here:

[Link: defendrush.org...]

Well played.

Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:29:02pm

re: #24 Kragar

Why would a company that decided to leave Rush return so soon while the news is still fresh?

Because these outrageous outrages don't last very long. In few weeks all the telephone spammers will be off in pursuit of the next shiny object. These ad deals take a while so by starting now they were planing for ads to start up again in a few weeks.

Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:31:11pm

Defending Limbaugh's Right to His Despicable Speech

We liberals are supposed to be arch-supporters of First Amendment free expression -- the right of anyone, anywhere, to say anything he or she wants, at any time. That is America. If you don't like the speech, then counter it with more speech. Duke it out -- with words.

But when I hear liberal commentators calling for boycotting any business that advertises on the Limbaugh show, or calling on radio stations carrying the show to cancel it, I start to get nervous -- as a First Amendment liberal, that is.

I remember my dad telling me stories about the danger of Joe McCarthy in the 1950s -- when Sen. McCarthy would cause actors to be blacklisted, and executives to be fired, and boycotts of businesses to be organized, because he had labeled someone a "pinko" or, worse, a "liberal."

I remember the Tea Party shouters who wouldn't let their members of Congress speak about President Obama's healthcare plan, who shouted others down, prevented debate and discussion because they disagreed with the president's and liberal Democratic ideas.

I remember students at liberal universities shouting down conservative speakers with whom they disagreed -- taking over the podium and blocking controversial conservatives from speaking on campuses.

I remember seeing my friend, John Mackey, who wrote a column in the Wall Street Journal opposing President Obama's national health insurance legislation, as a thoughtful libertarian whose company, Whole Foods, pays for its employees' health insurance and is one of the most progressive companies in the nation -- and I remember liberals trying to organize a boycott of his stores because Mackey chose to exercise his First Amendment rights.

And I remember wondering at the time, how does it help the workers at Whole Foods, whom liberals are supposed to care about, by boycotting the stores because the CEO happens to express an opinion?

I worry about thought police, ideas police, people who decide they don't like your opinion and rather than making a counterargument and fighting it out in the "marketplace of ideas" -- as liberals have long believed the First Amendment is all about -- they try to get you fired, or boycott your business, or boycott those who do business with you, or those who do business with those who do business with you, etc.

makeitstop Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:32:21pm

re: #24 Kragar

Why would a company that decided to leave Rush return so soon while the news is still fresh?

Local boycott, maybe. The company in question is based in California, so maybe they got a few phone calls from angry dittoheads (yeah, I'm being redundant there).

b_sharp Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:32:33pm

re: #23 Gus

Still not seeing the videos here: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Can you see them if you go to the LGF pages?

Targetpractice Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:32:54pm

re: #24 Kragar

Why would a company that decided to leave Rush return so soon while the news is still fresh?

A blog over at the LA Times is reporting the same thing, so while I've got the 24-Rule ticking on this, I'm giving it some credibility. If true, then Rush has just switched to a howitzer for the purposes of blowing off his feet.

Gus Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:33:26pm

re: #30 Tundra Boy

Can you see them if you go to the LGF pages?

Yes.

sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:34:18pm

re: #24 Kragar

Why would a company that decided to leave Rush return so soon while the news is still fresh?

(speculation)

Maybe said company(s) received more calls complaining about the ad drops than they got about where the ads had been

Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:35:55pm

Let the trials begin!
Gloria Allred Champions Limbaugh Prosecution

The celebrity attorney advocates prosecuting the controversial talk show host under Florida law

Amory Blaine Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:36:10pm

That chart shows a drop in traffic at the end of every month. I wonder why.

Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:36:15pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

He has every right to speak his piece, and to take his hits. Civility to the civil.

makeitstop Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:36:51pm

Looks like it's gonna be one of those nights. I'm out.

Have a good evening, Lizards.

Gus Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:36:54pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Let the trials begin!
Gloria Allred Champions Limbaugh Prosecution

Yawn.

Targetpractice Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:36:57pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Defending Limbaugh's Right to His Despicable Speech

He's free to spew his bullshit all he likes. That doesn't mean he's entitled to a microphone to do so.

sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:37:46pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Let the trials begin!
Gloria Allred Champions Limbaugh Prosecution

HOLD THE WEDDIN'

Gloria,,, I thought you were knee deep in bringing Herman Cain to justice!

Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:39:30pm

re: #40 sattv4u2

HOLD THE WEDDIN'

Gloria,,, I thought you were knee deep in bringing Herman Cain to justice!

Mr. Cain has fallen to Priority 999.

Obdicut Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:39:34pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

It's amazing how so many people convince themselves this is a free speech issue.

allegro Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:40:52pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

He's free to spew his bullshit all he likes. That doesn't mean he's entitled to a microphone to do so.

And when we all get our own equivalent microphones to argue our ideas in the marketplace that will be great. In the meantime, our dollars and rights to speak up to those who pay to keep the hateful rhetoric on the air are the only "marketplace of ideas" we have to work with.

Freedom of speech does work both ways.

sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:41:57pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

Mr. Cain has fallen to Priority 999.

Is that what you call importantly watching this movie three times???

[Link: tvtropes.org...]

Obdicut Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:42:15pm

re: #43 allegro

It's also funny how many people think freedom of speech doesn't come with any responsibilities to it, that propaganda isn't effective, and that if society tolerated all forms of hate speech we'd be better off.

It's a really obviously lunatic position, but some people manage to sucker themselves into it. It's a lot like modern libertarianism.

Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:42:36pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Defending Limbaugh's Right to His Despicable Speech

Do you believe Rush v Fluke is a first amendment issue Kilgore?

goddamnedfrank Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:43:33pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Defending Limbaugh's Right to His Despicable Speech

Yay, yet another idiot incapable of discerning the difference between government action and private action, or that the First Amendment applies to the former. McCarthy was a member of Congress using his office to destroy private citizens. The people boycotting Limbaugh's advertisers are private individuals exercising their own freedom of speech and assembly, and aren't trampling on anybody else's rights in doing so.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:43:43pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

duke it out with words! You know, like 'cut her clit out" and "I hope this bitch gets raped"

give me a fucking break free speech

Obdicut Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:43:47pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

The CEO of Whole Foods is not a 'thoughtful libertarian'. His article attacking HCR was chock full of the standard right-wing lies about it.

Gus Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:44:27pm

re: #47 goddamnedfrank

Yay, yet another idiot incapable of discerning the difference between government action and private action, or that the First Amendment applies to the former. McCarthy was a member of Congress using his office to destroy private citizens. The people boycotting Limbaugh's advertisers are private individuals exercising their own freedom of speech and assembly, and aren't trampling on anybody else's rights in doing so.

Dudes defending dudes.

Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:44:42pm

Ha. Just got a pre-primary call from a Rasmussen pollster. There are going to be some outliers in that Alabama tabulation.

sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:45:40pm

re: #51 Decatur Deb

Ha. Just got a pre-primary call from a Rasmussen pollster. There are going to be some outliers in that Alabama tabulation.

They were just happy to find a resident with a telephone!!!
///

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:45:50pm

re: #50 Gus

Dudes defending dudes.

and privilege defending privilege

wrenchwench Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:46:10pm

re: #51 Decatur Deb

Ha. Just got a pre-primary call from a Rasmussen pollster. There are going to be some outliers in that Alabama tabulation.

As long as there aren't out-and-out liars.

Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:46:46pm

re: #52 sattv4u2

They were just happy to find a resident with a telephone!!!
///

And knew all the numbers up to '6'.

sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:47:46pm

re: #55 Decatur Deb

And knew all the numbers up to '6'.

9, if you do a headstand!

Bubblehead II Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:48:00pm

Night Lizards.

sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:48:19pm

re: #57 Bubblehead II

Night Lizards.

Stay safe

Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:48:31pm

re: #46 ozbloke

Do you believe Rush v Fluke is a first amendment issue Kilgore?

Probably not in the Constitutional sense. I seriously doubt a criminal court would convict him.

Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:49:32pm

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Probably not in the Constitutional sense. I seriously doubt a criminal court would convict him.

Then why would you selectively edit your link to open with a fallacy?

Targetpractice Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:50:15pm

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Probably not in the Constitutional sense. I seriously doubt a criminal court would convict him.

Which means absolutely nothing, as defamation of character charges are hashed out in civil courts.

Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:50:37pm

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Probably not in the Constitutional sense. I seriously doubt a criminal court would convict him.

There might be a libel case or possibly defamation case for civil action but I don;t have the legal expertise to offer an opinion on that.

Gus Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:51:10pm

re: #57 Bubblehead II

Night Lizards.

Day Lizards!

Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:51:23pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

Which means absolutely nothing, as defamation of character charges are hashed out in civil courts.

Alred is asking for a criminal court trial in Florida.

Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:52:40pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

Alred is asking for a criminal court trial in Florida.

Then she's stretching a quirk in a bad law. Or just grandstanding.

Targetpractice Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:53:05pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

Alred is asking for a criminal court trial in Florida.

Good for her. Meanwhile, the post you responded to wasn't over your link to her case, it was to the snively-shit at HuffPo singing "Kumbaya."

Assuming Fluke could show damages, Rush could find himself in court for slander and/or defamation of character.

wrenchwench Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:54:03pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

Alred is asking for a criminal court trial in Florida.

That's not what your link says.

The relevant statute reads in part: "Defamation - Whoever speaks of and concerning any woman, married or unmarried, falsely and maliciously imputing to her a want of chastity, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree."

Misdemeanors don't go to criminal court, and none is mentioned there.

Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:54:37pm

re: #65 Decatur Deb

Then she's stretching a quirk in a bad law. Or just grandstanding.

Probably grandstanding. I seriously doubt the courts would hear the case. However there is the case of the Girls Gone Wild guy who was convicted of violating community standards somewhere (I think it was in Florida). He's still in jail because he mailed video there.

wrenchwench Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:54:49pm

re: #65 Decatur Deb

Then she's stretching a quirk in a bad law. Or just grandstanding.

Or being misrepresented.

Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:56:05pm

re: #68 Killgore Trout

Probably grandstanding. I seriously doubt the courts would hear the case. However there is the case of the Girls Gone Wild guy who was convicted of violating community standards somewhere (I think it was in Florida). He's still in jail because he mailed video there.

I think his big problem was sloppiness with the ages of some of his drunken starlets.

sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:56:24pm

re: #68 Killgore Trout

Probably grandstanding. I seriously doubt the courts would hear the case. However there is the case of the Girls Gone Wild guy who was convicted of violating community standards somewhere (I think it was in Florida). He's still in jail because he mailed video there.

It was either Panama City Beach Fla or Myrtle Beach SC iirc

goddamnedfrank Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:57:19pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

There might be a libel case or possibly defamation case for civil action but I don;t have the legal expertise to offer an opinion on that.

Calling someone a prostitute is a very specific accusation of criminality. Limbaugh could argue that he was speaking figuratively though and it's doubtful such a civil case would go far.

re: #67 wrenchwench

That's not what your link says.

Misdemeanors don't go to criminal court, and none is mentioned there.

Misdemeanors are handled in criminal court. The Florida law is unconstitutional because it violates the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment in making it a crime to impugn the reputations of women but not men.

sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:57:42pm

re: #71 sattv4u2

It was either Panama City Beach Fla or Myrtle Beach SC iirc

80% sure now that I think about it

Gus Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:57:55pm

- Chapter 836 - 2011 Florida Statutes - The Florida Senate

836.04 Defamation.—Whoever speaks of and concerning any woman, married or unmarried, falsely and maliciously imputing to her a want of chastity, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

wrenchwench Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:58:38pm

re: #72 goddamnedfrank

Misdemeanors are handled in criminal court. The Florida law is unconstitutional because it violates the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment in making it a crime to impugn the reputation of women but not men.

Thanks for the correction.

I thought the law sounded rather antiquated.

sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:58:52pm

re: #74 Gus

punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
???
Max 5 figure fine ,,,,, community service!?!?

Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:59:42pm

re: #73 sattv4u2

80% sure now that I think about it

Yup. Hurricane bait. (Daughter 2 had to find insurance brokers for all the condos in one of those damn hi-rises.)

Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 8, 2012 4:59:59pm

re: #67 wrenchwench

That's not what your link says.

Misdemeanors don't go to criminal court, and none is mentioned there.

I think they do go to criminal court.

Misdemeanor Trial Process

A misdemeanor trial may be conducted as a "bench trial" where the judge alone will hear and decide the outcome in the case, or a jury trial, where a person's guilt or innocence is decided by a jury of 12. It is a constitutional right to be judged by a jury of one's peers, although the actual ethnic and gender make-up of the panel may not really be the same as the defendant. A jury is made up of people in a certain geographic area relative to the courthouse. The courthouse where the case is heard is in the same geographic area where the crime was committed.

A misdemeanor is still a crime and the criminal courts handle them. Civil courts are for lawsuits, divorces, etc.

Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:00:06pm

re: #76 sattv4u2

punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
???
Max 5 figure fine ,,, community service!?!?

Worse that that, made to listen to 24 hours of Rush playback.
One can only hope.

Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:00:22pm

re: #76 sattv4u2

punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
???
Max 5 figure fine ,,, community service!?!?

Three days in the stocks.

Gus Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:00:27pm

re: #76 sattv4u2

punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
???
Max 5 figure fine ,,, community service!?!?

775.082 - Penalties applicability of sentencing structures mandatory minimum sentences for certain reoffenders previously released from prison. - 2011 Florida Statutes - The Florida Senate

(4) A person who has been convicted of a designated misdemeanor may be sentenced as follows:
(a) For a misdemeanor of the first degree, by a definite term of imprisonment not exceeding 1 year;

Four More Tears Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:00:38pm

re: #74 Gus

- Chapter 836 - 2011 Florida Statutes - The Florida Senate

836.04 Defamation.—Whoever speaks of and concerning any woman, married or unmarried, falsely and maliciously imputing to her a want of chastity, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

I wonder when that law was last enforced...

Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:00:57pm

re: #72 goddamnedfrank

Misdemeanors are handled in criminal court. The Florida law is unconstitutional because it violates the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment in making it a crime to impugn the reputation of women but not men.

Interesting.

Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:01:15pm

re: #82 Meh.

I wonder when that law was last enforced...

Andrew Jackson's wife, for a guess.

Gus Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:02:09pm

re: #82 Meh.

I wonder when that law was last enforced...

Got me.

sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:02:17pm

re: #84 Decatur Deb

Andrew Jackson's wife, for a guess.

Captian Jack Sparrow!!

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

Gus Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:06:12pm

You can read through this:

Sex, lies and a manila envelope
Lewd photos mailed to a local official set off a political brouhaha

Excerpts:

In early April, someone mailed envelopes to a handful of local public officials. In each was a set of five grainy pictures of two naked women kissing, fondling and having oral sex. Each envelope included a simple cover sheet consisting of the handwritten initials “M.L.” and the handwritten name “Belinda Ortiz.”

Though Ortiz is the Republican Party of Florida’s Hispanic outreach director and a perennial candidate for local political office, she wasn’t one of the recipients of the envelopes. But her contacts at the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce were on the mailing list. And when Ortiz saw the pictures, she was understandably upset.

“The woman photographed is NOT me,” she says in a sworn April 9 statement to the Orlando Police Department, “as I do not wear my hair curly, do not wear acrylic nails, do not have breast implants and am not in as good of shape as the woman in the photos. For the record, I have never taken or allowed pornographic photos to be taken of me.”

and

On Aug. 4, after dropping all four counts of defamation by publication, the state attorney’s office brought four other counts of defamation – for violating state statute 836.04, “Whomever speaks of and concerning any woman, married or unmarried, falsely and maliciously imputing to her a want of chastity, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree” – and one far-reaching count of cyberstalking Ortiz between January 2007 and May 2009.

Florida statute 836.04 was enacted in 1883. The law, according to public defender Melissa Vickers, who assisted public defender Joseph Knape on this case, is not used much. In 1894, Holmes County resident Marion Burnham was convicted of defaming Lula Burnham by accusing her of having sex with her brother, Addie Hewett, prior to her marriage. An 1896 ruling by the Florida Supreme Court reversed the charges based on lack of evidence. Ten years later, the Supreme Court upheld charges against R.B. Stutts for slandering an unmarried woman; in that case, the court found that slander did not require that a defamatory insult be heard by a third person.

“When I read that statute, and I picture what the legislative intent behind it was, I would picture people in a public place chastising her, calling her something unpleasant,” says Joseph Knape. “The hardest thing is having a jury follow the law when they themselves can’t say that they probably haven’t violated the law. I’m sure that most of us have.”

sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:06:18pm

re: #81 Gus

For a misdemeanor of the first degree, by a definite term of imprisonment not exceeding 1 year;

So it goes to trail, he gets convicted, sentencing 3 months later
Judgment,,, 60 days, suspended

Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:09:27pm

re: #87 Gus

The famous "I Should Look So Good" defense.

Obdicut Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:10:48pm

re: #89 Decatur Deb

I'm surprised to see the statute used so recently.

Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:11:59pm

re: #90 Obdicut

I'm surprised to see the statute used so recently.

Reminds me of a (Foxworthy?) joke about climbing a water tower to defend his sister's honor.

Four More Tears Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:12:24pm

Whatever happens, I'm pretty sure I don't want to see Rush go to jail. Way too much martyr potential there.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:12:49pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

What do you think about Alan Dershowitz's anti-Rosenberg/anti-MM campaign?

Gus Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:14:05pm

We now begin the liturgical dance piece with acrobatics.

Four More Tears Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:15:30pm

re: #94 Gus

We now begin the liturgical dance piece with acrobatics.

o.O

Gus Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:16:04pm

re: #95 Meh.

o.O

It's got a lot of back-flips and back-bends.

Targetpractice Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:16:10pm

re: #92 Meh.

Whatever happens, I'm pretty sure I don't want to see Rush go to jail. Way too much martyr potential there.

I've said before that seeing him removed from the air is not my goal, only seeing him humbled before his listeners and made to take responsibility for his words and actions.

Varek Raith Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:16:37pm

Responsibility is for the birds.

sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:17:18pm

re: #94 Gus

We now begin the liturgical dance piece with acrobatics.

Youtube Video

100

Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:17:50pm

re: #97 Targetpractice

I've said before that seeing him removed from the air is not my goal, only seeing him humbled before his listeners and made to take responsibility for his words and actions.

Don't even want him dropped from the taxpayer-supported Armed Forces Network. That should be left to the preferences of the troops.

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Four More Tears Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:22:07pm

re: #100 Decatur Deb

Don't even want him dropped from the taxpayer-supported Armed Forces Network. That should be left to the preferences of the troops.

I agree with that much. Is there something in place to actually determine what they want to listen to?

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Kragar Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:38:14pm

re: #94 Gus

We now begin the liturgical dance piece with acrobatics.

Youtube Video

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Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 8, 2012 5:40:33pm

re: #101 Meh.

I agree with that much. Is there something in place to actually determine what they want to listen to?

There are annual military family surveys, but the chiefs don't have to follow them. They pretty much try to keep the troops and families happy, especially in areas w/o English language broadcasting.

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jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 8, 2012 9:19:42pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Defending Limbaugh's Right to His Despicable Speech

THE FIRST AMENDEMNT IS NOT A RIGHT TO HAVE A NATIONAL PLATFORM FROM WHICH TO VOICE YOUR BELIEFS STOP INSINUATING (OR POSTING WORKS BELONGING TO THOSE WHO THINK) IT IS!

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