No, Prof. Derrick Bell Did Not Visit the White House in 2010

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And today, the Heritage Foundation tries to jump on the breitbart.com bandwagon, with another BOMBSHELL post screaming that Derrick A. Bell Visited the White House Twice in 2010!!!

Just two little problems with this absurd attempt at “connecting the dots:” 1) it was a tour of the White House, not a meeting with the President, and 2) it wasn’t Harvard Law Prof. Derrick Bell, but someone with the same name.

Apart from that, BOMBSHELL!

Did Professor Derrick Bell Visit the White House?

There are two problems with the Heritage post. One: it excludes some details from the visitors’ logs. There are 28 columns on the publicly released records, the Heritage blog lists seven. The data they omit includes a description of what the visit was four: in this case, for both visits: TOURS. A White House tour – not MEETING or APPOINTMENT. Another data point: TOTAL PEOPLE. This is a reference to how many people were present for the tour, meeting or appointment – in this case 304 people and 282 people.

Check out the visitors’ logs HERE.

But Bell surely could have taken a tour or two and then met with President Obama, right? Sure, it’s possible – and I asked the White House about it. The answer from a White House official: this was not the same Derrick A. Bell. He one had a different birthday than the late law professor, whose birthday was November 6, 1930. That would seem to undermine the significance of this visit.

It’s difficult to understand why it should be even slightly controversial that a renowned Harvard academic, the first tenured black law professor in the history of the school, would visit the White House.

The true reason for this claim: it plays into right wing race-baiting memes and right wing “academic traitor” memes. The fact that it’s just false doesn’t stop these people from pushing it out there anyway; the right long ago stopped caring whether their smears contain any truth.

Prof. Bell is a perfect target for these cowardly snake oil salesmen, because he’s no longer alive to fight back.

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188 comments
1 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:37:46am
It’s difficult to understand why it should be even slightly controversial that a renowned Harvard academic, the first tenured black law professor in the history of the school, would visit the White House.

This.

2 Kragar  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:37:58am

2 people with the same name born on different dates? What are the odds?
/

3 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:39:23am

re: #1 Bulworth

Yeah. I wish he had. Obama meets with a lot of people who I don't particularly love every idea of, and some I downright think are bad, like Rick Warren.

So what?

4 erik_t  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:39:44am

I eagerly await Politifact's addition of a brand-new category for the run-up to the 2012 elections: Pants On Head.

5 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:40:23am

Heritage should stick with policy analysis. Not that it's much good at that either, though....

6 Simply Sarah  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:41:32am

re: #4 erik_t

I eagerly await Politifact's addition of a brand-new category for the run-up to the 2012 elections: Pants On Head.

Sure, but who fact checks the fact checkers?

7 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:43:27am

Isn't the reichwing accusing Bell (and by extension, Obama) of being politically incorrect? Of having "incorrect" political views? Although this is the defense uttered by most wingnuts when their views don't meet approval somewhere.

8 Simply Sarah  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:44:39am

Having tenure must be nice, huh?

Students Silently Protest Professor Who Defended Limbaugh, Ridiculed Fluke

Thirty University of Rochester students held a protest Wednesday afternoon in the classroom of an economics professor who had defended Rush Limbaugh’s verbal assault on Sandra Fluke and said the Georgetown student deserved to be mocked.

In a blog post, Professor Steven Landsburg said he essentially agreed with Limbaugh stance, writing, “Her position — which is what’s at issue here — deserves [no respect] whatsoever. It deserves to only be ridiculed, mocked and jeered. To treat it with respect would be a travesty.” He said he did not agree with Limbaugh’s use of the word of “slut” to describe Fluke, but said “prostitute” was mostly fair, while a “extortionist” was even better.
...

9 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:50:33am

re: #8 Simply Sarah

Guy sounds like a bit of a nutjob.

Good on them to do a dignified protest, too.

10 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:52:30am

Irony.

Meet Paul Weyrich: co-founder of the Heritage Foundation

As one of the key figures of the New Right, Weyrich positioned himself as a defender of traditionalist sociopolitical values of states' rights, dominionism, traditional marriage, heterocentrism, ethnic nationalism, anti-communism and class hierarchy, a staunch opponent of the New Left's attempts at integrating social progress and diversity into American politics. Consequently, many of his views were seen as controversial by Americans who were not on the political right.

• Paul Weyrich
• Radical
• Founder of the Heritage Foundation

Also see:

ADL Says Charge by Leading Conservative That Jews Killed Christ is Historically False and Deeply Offensive

Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director, issued the following statement:

Paul Weyrich’s statement that "Christ was crucified by the Jews" is appalling, historically false and deeply offensive. As a religious figure of national standing, he certainly knows that the accusation holding "the Jews" responsible for the death of Jesus is not true and has served as the basis and rationale for centuries of persecution of Jewish people around the world. He must know that the Catholic Church has emphatically repudiated the teaching of contempt, i.e., that Jews killed Jesus. He surely knows that such destructive myths stated as fact may well reinforce the bigotry of the ignorant and the uninformed, potentially leading to hateful anti-Semitic acts.

11 mr.fusion  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:58:27am

I've been saying a lot in the comment sections of these type of stories that "they are just imploding."

I think this is evidence that the implosion is complete. Now they are just in ruins

12 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:59:46am

People in glass houses.

13 A Mom Anon  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 10:59:52am

re: #10 Gus

Weyrich is also famous for a statement about voting,he wanted less people to vote,not more,because he knew that the larger the number the more the votes favored democratic candidates. If I remember correctly,the recording of that statement is on his Wikipedia page.

14 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:00:28am

re: #13 A Mom Anon

Weyrich is also famous for a statement about voting,he wanted less people to vote,not more,because he knew that the larger the number the more the votes favored democratic candidates. If I remember correctly,the recording of that statement is on his Wikipedia page.

Already Tweeted:

15 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:00:50am

re: #10 Gus

Irony.

Meet Paul Weyrich: co-founder of the Heritage Foundation

• Paul Weyrich
• Radical
• Founder of the Heritage Foundation

Also see:

ADL Says Charge by Leading Conservative That Jews Killed Christ is Historically False and Deeply Offensive

I think Paul Weyrich passed away several years ago.

16 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:03:00am

These people are getting their bombs from the same place Charlie Brown gets his Halloween candy.

"I got a rock."

17 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:03:40am

re: #15 Learned Mother of Zion

I think Paul Weyrich passed away several years ago.

And Derrick Bell last year.

18 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:03:51am

And even if it was him visiting, it wasn't like he was a gay prostitute posing as a reporter that signed in and stayed the night.

19 Kragar  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:04:46am

re: #16 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

These people are getting their bombs from the same place Charlie Brown gets his Halloween candy.

"I got a rock."

20 Big Steve  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:06:39am

Well those of us in Houston may remember Derek Bell who as a professional baseball player in the 90's for the Houston Astro's. Played right field and but was a bit of a jerk in the locker room.

21 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:06:48am

re: #10 Gus

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

22 Four More Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:07:29am

These freakouts are getting even more painful to watch.

23 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:08:34am

re: #21 Creeping Diversity

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

Yes. What right wing radicalism?

24 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:14:34am

Nice re-Tweet here:

25 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:15:48am

re: #24 Gus

Nice re-Tweet here:

La la la, I can't hear you

26 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:15:59am

That being David Axelrod. :)

27 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:19:04am

Another bad day for the right-wing.

Drink!

28 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:20:22am

re: #27 Gus

Another bad day for the right-wing.

Drink!

I'll drink to that!

29 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:21:59am

re: #28 iceweasel

I'll drink to that!

The sun rose this morning. Drink!

Awe. Poor old sourpuss Mitt Romney: Romney On Jobs Report: 'This President Has Not Succeeded, This President Has Failed'

30 leftynyc  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:22:03am

When the administration was asked about Mr. Bell's visits, they wisely said "no comment". Obviously hoping the righties would work themselves into quite the lather before the truth came out. That would have been fun.

31 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:23:28am

re: #29 Gus

The sun rose this morning. Drink!

Awe. Poor old sourpuss Mitt Romney: Romney On Jobs Report: 'This President Has Not Succeeded, This President Has Failed'

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Poor Mittens. Poor, poor Mittens.

32 zora  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:24:15am

re: #4 erik_t

I eagerly await Politifact's addition of a brand-new category for the run-up to the 2012 elections: Pants On Head.

more like sheets on head.

33 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:25:20am

re: #31 iceweasel

Poor Mittens. Poor, poor Mittens.

He's driving down the highway going 90 miles per hour with a dog strapped to the roof.

34 Interesting Times  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:29:42am

re: #28 iceweasel

re: #29 Gus

Heh. If you check my Twitter mentions following Soledad O'Brien's retweet of my message, looks like I got a mini-version of what you and especially Charles have to deal with when the poo-flinging monkey squad gets the breit-bat signal ;)

35 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:31:30am

re: #34 Interesting Times

re: #29 Gus

Heh. If you check my Twitter mentions following Soledad O'Brien's retweet of my message, looks like I got a mini-version of what you and especially Charles have to deal with when the poo-flinging monkey squad gets the breit-bat signal ;)

"breit-brat" might be more appropriate.

But I'm just a sock puppet commenter on an irrelevant blog. :p

36 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:32:07am

re: #20 Big Steve

Well those of us in Houston may remember Derek Bell who as a professional baseball player in the 90's for the Houston Astro's. Played right field and but was a bit of a jerk in the locker room.

The Killer Bees, yes.

37 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:33:01am

Even if he was invited, it wouldn't be a big deal. And you're exactly right, they're attacking him because he can't defend himself. Slimy bastards.

38 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:33:10am

re: #34 Interesting Times

re: #29 Gus

Heh. If you check my Twitter mentions following Soledad O'Brien's retweet of my message, looks like I got a mini-version of what you and especially Charles have to deal with when the poo-flinging monkey squad gets the breit-bat signal ;)

Oh yeah. I got a swarm the other night. Almost got ugly. If you're curious you can see all of the Tweet sent to you here. Once the page is open click on "all." Which is to the right of Tweets Top / All. It's the same old idiots. They can't mind their own business and are always heckling.

39 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:34:13am

re: #29 Gus

You can almost hear him telling himself that if he repeats it enough it will have to be true.

40 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:35:32am

re: #39 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

You can almost hear him telling himself that if he repeats it enough it will have to be true.

"Can't sleep, clown will eat me".
"Can't sleep, clown will eat me".
"Can't sleep, clown will eat me".
"Can't sleep, clown will eat me".

41 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:38:19am

re: #20 Big Steve

Totally killed a fantasy baseball team on more than one occasion. /

42 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:38:52am

re: #34 Interesting Times

re: #29 Gus

Heh. If you check my Twitter mentions following Soledad O'Brien's retweet of my message, looks like I got a mini-version of what you and especially Charles have to deal with when the poo-flinging monkey squad gets the breit-bat signal ;)

heh:

You used word 'wanks' in 2 tweets. Here in America, we aren't offended by silly words made up by insignificant foreigners.

How cute. If only you were a foreigner you could be ignored. //

43 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:39:23am

You can search using either "to:username" or "from:username" on Twitter. Should be self explanatory. Username being your log in name and not your "name."

Using Obama as an example you have:

to:barackobama

and

from:barackobama

44 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:41:19am

Dinner! Back later. :)

45 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:41:30am

re: #42 iceweasel

heh:

How cute. If only you were a foreigner you could be ignored. //

You're missing the fun. There's this weird "Breitbart army" out there now. Get really strange sometimes. But, I manage to keep my Tweet feed wingnut free.

46 Randall Gross  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:41:42am

Drive by with a couple of reminders:
Sunday is Spring Forward day, St Patrick's day is 8 days away.

47 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:43:58am

re: #40 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I had that shirt...

48 Interesting Times  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:47:31am

re: #42 iceweasel

How cute. If only you were a foreigner you could be ignored. //

Well, I am Canadian, but Rick Perry calls our tarsands a "domestic" oil supply. Do I count as a foreigner or not? /

49 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:48:04am

Hilarious.

Click the image in the link for the larger version.

50 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:50:59am

b_sharp's Page about Prof. Ogletree is on the rise at Reddit: [Link: www.reddit.com...]

51 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:51:11am

re: #46 Randall Gross

Drive by with a couple of reminders:
Sunday is Spring Forward day, St Patrick's day is 8 days away.

Does Irish Spring Day fall in between?

52 zora  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:57:45am

re: #50 Charles Johnson

b_sharp's Page about Prof. Ogletree is on the rise at Reddit: [Link: www.reddit.com...]

from the comments:

I was waiting for the moment when Obama took off his mask and revealed himself to be one of those Lizard people. That probably would have gotten more traction than this nonsense.

53 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:02:53pm
54 Kragar  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:05:31pm
55 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:06:47pm

re: #2 Kragar

2 people with the same name born on different dates? What are the odds?
/

Well, if their name is Ysobelle-Marie Featheringhay-de Klerk, then lower than if their name is Derrick Bell.

56 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:08:56pm

Meanwhile, the geniuses at Breitbart.com are apparently not going to do anything about those millions of broken links!

All existing links on all websites prior to this week are broken. I'm just floored that they don't seem to think this is a problem.

57 Kragar  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:09:28pm

I really fucking hate his man.

Fischer: It's 'Ridiculous' to Think Mockery & Condemnation Cause Gay Kids to Commit Suicide

Fischer loved that line of reasoning, adding that it was "just ridiculous on its face" to think that being mocked, ridiculed, and condemned would lead gay kids to commit suicide. After all, Fischer said, the AFA is "relentlessly hammered, condemned, criticized, [and] judged" every single day and nobody there is tempted to end their life just because they are being ridiculed:

A petty evil fucking bastard.

58 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:10:06pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, the geniuses at Breitbart.com are apparently not going to do anything about those millions of broken links!

All existing links on all websites prior to this week are broken. I'm just floored that they don't seem to think this is a problem.

BTW. I remember listening to an old radio interview with Obama back in 2008. Is that the Buzzfeed 1994 interview I saw mentioned? If so that's old news as well.

59 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:11:29pm

re: #58 Gus

BTW. I remember listening to an old radio interview with Obama back in 2008. Is that the Buzzfeed 1994 interview I saw mentioned? If so that's old news as well.

That might have been a 2001 interview on WBEZ that I'm thinking about.

60 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:13:25pm

It's up.

61 BongCrodny  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:13:35pm

re: #10 Gus

sociopolitical

At first glance, I read this as "sociopathic."

I'm probably not too far off the mark.

62 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:14:02pm

re: #57 Kragar

I really fucking hate his man.

Fischer: It's 'Ridiculous' to Think Mockery & Condemnation Cause Gay Kids to Commit Suicide

A petty evil fucking bastard.

Because isolated children behave EXACTLY like large groups of adults who have been accepted all their lives. //

63 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:15:15pm

re: #57 Kragar

I really fucking hate his man.

Fischer: It's 'Ridiculous' to Think Mockery & Condemnation Cause Gay Kids to Commit Suicide


A petty evil fucking bastard.

He also appears to understand the difference between deserved and undeserved ridicule, but not that the consequences thereof might be different.

64 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:18:43pm

re: #60 Gus

It's up.

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I uploaded a transcript: LOST INTERVIEW FROM 1994 WITH YOUNG BARACK OBAMA

65 zora  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:18:47pm

CNN Guest On Breitbart Tape: ‘The Most Scandalous Thing Is Obama Was Still Rocking Afro In 1990′

ha!

[Link: www.mediaite.com...]

66 Kragar  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:20:01pm
67 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:20:39pm

re: #57 Kragar

I really fucking hate his man.

Fischer: It's 'Ridiculous' to Think Mockery & Condemnation Cause Gay Kids to Commit Suicide

A petty evil fucking bastard.

Also, vile, despicable and smarmy.

68 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:21:30pm

re: #66 Kragar

You can get more for stealing a car.

69 BongCrodny  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:25:32pm
70 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:25:37pm

Dopey Dan Riehl is spewing hate at me again:

71 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:27:19pm

re: #66 Kragar

Defraud investors of $80 million? 18 months in jail.

Yeah, thats fair.
/

Sell an Oz of weed to your buddy, 5 years. Yep, about right.

72 Kragar  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:28:24pm

re: #68 Obdicut

You can get more for stealing a car.

Mississippi Woman Sentenced To 3-Yrs In Prison For Feeding Family

A Mississippi Mother of two teenagers got sentenced last week to three years in prison for lying on her food stamp application.

Anita McLemore, 47, will serve more time in federal prison for lying than a group of people recently sentenced in a multimillion-dollar mortgage fraud scheme with two years in federal prison.

McLemore, who pleaded guilty in July to one count of submitting a false claim to the U.S. Department of Agriculture Temporary Assistance and Food Stamps program, lied about not being convicted of a felony.

Here’s why: thanks to a federal ban on food stamps for people with felony drug convictions, people like McLemore are out of luck when it comes to getting assistance with putting food on their tables. Though states can opt out of the ban, those that don’t (like Mississippi) deny food stamps even to individuals who have already served their sentences or overcome previous addictions.

73 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:29:51pm

Oh, look what I found on Wikipedia:

In May 2009, it was discovered that President Barack Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, "who died in 1995, was baptized posthumously into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day [sic] Saints last year during her son's campaign. The White House declined to comment Tuesday [May 5, 2009]." The June 4, 2008 baptism was performed in the Provo Utah Temple, and a week later the ritual of endowment was performed on behalf of Dunham. LDS Church spokesman Scott Trotter confirmed that someone did perform a proxy baptism for Dunham, but said it was "counter to [LDS] Church policy for a church member to submit names for baptism for persons to whom they are not related."

74 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:30:08pm

re: #66 Kragar

Defraud investors of $80 million? 18 months in jail.

Yeah, thats fair.
/

Crime doesn't pay.

Run company bankrupt, lose a lot of people's money. Get a bonus!
[Link: bottomline.msnbc.msn.com...]

This is the way to do it.

75 efuseakay  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:30:46pm

LOL @ this over at dslreports in the "Red Room"...

So 0bama is Vehemently ANTI-WHITE, ANTI SEMITIC, and an undeniable RACIST.
Avid supporter of Black Liberation Theology???
Rabid Rev. Jeremiah Wright fanatic??.
0bama, hate's white people, AND he hates Jew's.

Documentary as a Communist Derrick Bell huger.

Absolutely the most disgusting a human being could ever be.

PBS affiliate WGBH-Boston helped cover it up, more reasons to De-fund PBS and NPR.

This is Breitbart, "Vetting Part I ".

The info is already on hand, watch out for 0bama, Vetting part II, and 0bama, Vetting part III.

It's over!!

November 6, 2012

God bless you Andrew Breitbart!!!

Come November, give us Newt Gingrich or Ron Paul, the only 2 real Conservatives in the race!!!!

I was booted from the RR several months ago for being one of the few voices of reason in there. I don't miss it.

76 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:32:48pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

You ripped off a Freeper? Buckhead? He created the throbbing memo? Wow. That's not quite how I recalled things...

My recollection (and it's backed by the Wiki to boot) is that Buckhead (the Freeper) found the problems, and you figured out a way to visualize proof that it was MSFT with default settings that created the memo, not any typewriter contemporaneous with the time period as what CBS' Rather and Mapes claimed in the TANG story.

77 Big Steve  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:37:48pm

re: #76 lawhawk

You ripped off a Freeper? Buckhead? He created the throbbing memo? Wow. That's not quite how I recalled things...

My recollection (and it's backed by the Wiki to boot) is that Buckhead (the Freeper) found the problems, and you figured out a way to visualize proof that it was MSFT with default settings that created the memo, not any typewriter contemporaneous with the time period as what CBS' Rather and Mapes claimed in the TANG story.

Having been around LGF during that, Charles NEVER .....repeat....NEVER....claimed sole scooping rights on the Dan Rather debacle

78 SteelGHAZI  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:41:31pm

re: #77 Big Steve

Silly lizard, facts do not enter the equation. That would make too much sense.

79 erik_t  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:43:33pm

re: #75 efuseakay

LOL @ this over at dslreports in the "Red Room"...

I was booted from the RR several months ago for being one of the few voices of reason in there. I don't miss it.

My preferred method of cover-up is also to host things on the internet without password or paywall.

Derp.

80 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:44:41pm

re: #76 lawhawk

You ripped off a Freeper? Buckhead? He created the throbbing memo? Wow. That's not quite how I recalled things...

My recollection (and it's backed by the Wiki to boot) is that Buckhead (the Freeper) found the problems, and you figured out a way to visualize proof that it was MSFT with default settings that created the memo, not any typewriter contemporaneous with the time period as what CBS' Rather and Mapes claimed in the TANG story.

And by the way, I gave credit to Buckhead and linked to his post at Free Republic: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

81 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:47:36pm

Desperate times call for desperate measures. The right wing is an a desperate time. Thus it's easily said that desperate fools leads to desperate measures.

82 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:49:34pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Visualization was the key part. After that the burden of proof was solely on the defenders of the memos. While some comment somewhere describing something could just be dismissed as anonymous babbling.

I say that as someone who was skeptical of the forgery claim for some time during those events.

83 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:49:48pm

re: #79 erik_t

My preferred method of cover-up is also to host things on the internet without password or paywall.

Derp.

That's the worst. Very sinister. Typical Obama Chicago union thuggery. //

84 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:50:25pm

The "Derrick Bell visited the White House" bologna is officially DOA. Yet another fail from these desperate fools. It's like watching a WWI dogfight and seeing one fabric-covered biplane fall from the sky with a trailing plume of black smoke -- one right after the other.

85 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:50:44pm

Government for sale now more than ever:

[Link: www.slate.com...]

86 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:52:18pm

My reply to Dopey Dan:

87 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:53:21pm

re: #84 Gus

The "Derrick Bell visited the White House" bologna is officially DOA. Yet another fail from these desperate fools. It's like watching a WWI dogfight and seeing one fabric-covered biplane fall from the sky with a trailing plume of black smoke -- one right after the other.

Yelling "Curse you Lizard Baron!" as they go down?
;)

88 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:54:12pm

re: #87 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Yelling "Curse you Lizard Baron!" as they go down?
;)

Yep. Even "Dastardly Dan" is on the scene.

Player piano playing in the background.

89 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:54:18pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

He'll respond with an allegation of child molestation, I bet.

That's how he rolls.

90 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:54:27pm

Notice that Riehl is trying to say Prof. Ogletree was totally serious when he said they hid the dreaded hug video.

This was actually planned to be the big followup to the first bombshell, in the Breitbart style.

91 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:55:17pm

re: #89 Obdicut

Maybe it was a trap for him.

92 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:56:31pm

BREAKING NEWS!

93 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:56:37pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Notice that Riehl is trying to say Prof. Ogletree was totally serious when he said they hid the dreaded hug video.

This was actually planned to be the big followup to the first bombshell, in the Breitbart style.

And since the video was apparently available through PBS, this was supposed to make sense because why?

94 Kragar  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:56:40pm
95 Kragar  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:02:52pm

First amateur video of Challenger shuttle explosion revealed

The newly released video, taken by Jeffrey Ault, and licensed from Ault by the Huffington Post, offers a closer and more intimate view of the tragedy than have other video reports previously released by the news media. Ault was part of a live audience gathered to watch the Challenger take off from the Kennedy Space Center, less than 10 miles from the launch site. He shot the video on his Super 8 home video camera, and it sat for 26 years in a box in his house.

"I was hoping to see an event that I would remember for the rest of my life," Ault told the Huffington Post in an email. "I did. Just not the way I would have liked to. Unfortunately, it became one of those long lasting memories for all the wrong reasons."

96 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:07:25pm

OT:
Right wing bugging out over fact that LED bulb that won $10 million L contest is going on sale. Oh, except the WaPo and Malkin and others are instead calling it a government subsidized green bulb and are focusing on the price of the bulb as being higher than others currently available.

97 zora  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:09:26pm

re: #73 ProGunLiberal

Oh, look what I found on Wikipedia:

i can't bring myself to care about posthumous baptisms. who gets hurt? i don't think it's any different from catholics praying for the dead or evangelicals praying that the living to find salvation.

98 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:10:06pm

Derrick Bell’s widow: Unaware of second hug between prez and prof

“I think there is no there there... And I think that it’s pathetic and desperate on their part that they would think that this was such a bombshell. It’s typical in one sense: It’s the radical right wing making a mountain out of a molehill with distortion and misinformation.”
-- Janet Bell (Widow to Derrick Bell)

99 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:12:45pm

re: #96 lawhawk

OT:
Right wing bugging out over fact that LED bulb that won $10 million L contest is going on sale. Oh, except the WaPo and Malkin and others are instead calling it a government subsidized green bulb and are focusing on the price of the bulb as being higher than others currently available.

Heh.
I love this kind of silliness.
The curly bulbs I use cost more in the short term but last far longer than an incandescent. So, it's cheaper.

100 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:14:11pm

re: #96 lawhawk

OT:
Right wing bugging out over fact that LED bulb that won $10 million L contest is going on sale. Oh, except the WaPo and Malkin and others are instead calling it a government subsidized green bulb and are focusing on the price of the bulb as being higher than others currently available.

It's like a daily nervous breakdown with these guys.

101 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:14:47pm

re: #100 Gus

It's like a daily nervous breakdown with these guys.

Adreniline junkies?

102 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:15:06pm

re: #101 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Adreniline junkies?

Something.

103 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:16:13pm

re: #99 Varek Raith

Heh.
I love this kind of silliness.
The curly bulbs I use cost more in the short term but last far longer than an incandescent. So, it's cheaper.

Not to mention the savings on the electric bill and significantly lower heat output.

104 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:16:19pm

re: #99 Varek Raith

To recap:
Incandescents are cheap to purchase, but have higher operating costs because they are ridiculously inefficient.
CFLs are now slightly more expensive than comparable incandescents, but have low operating costs and longer life - making the breakeven point just a couple of months of normal usage.
LEDs are significantly more expensive than CFLs but promise even better efficiency and longer life (especially in harsher conditions - outdoors, dimming, etc) that would take their toll on CFL. Breakeven is a couple of years based on current prices.

Within a few years, the LED will drop in price significantly and breakeven will fall to the same range as CFLs - with much better light and controlling (for dimmers, which are a problem with many CFLs unless specifically built for dimmers).

Oh, and I have CFLs exclusively in the lawhawk lair - except for those on dimmers or in certain exterior locations - and the cost savings is quite significant.

105 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:17:48pm

re: #102 Gus

Green Dragon/Obama Commie 2012!

106 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:18:01pm

Remember how stupidly expensive RAM was?
Or LED tvs?
Or hard drives?
Sheesh.

107 erik_t  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:18:55pm

These data cannot be computed by programming of Romneybot.

'Well, I have some suggestions for the president and for the producer. First of all, talk to the 24 million Americans who are out of work or underemployed in this country.'
...
Romney later expanded on the ways that regulations are curtailing not only oil production, but also job creation in coastal states like Mississippi.
...
After his event, Romney declined to answer reporters’ questions about the Friday’s jobs report.

108 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:19:02pm

re: #103 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Not to mention the savings on the electric bill and significantly lower heat output.

Big time savings. That and I don't remember having to change a bulb in almost a year. They last forever.

109 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:19:10pm

re: #104 lawhawk

Also with LEDs you'll get much closer in color to natural sunlight than with CFLs. Not a big deal unless you like to oil paint or whatever indoors.

110 Four More Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:19:46pm

Kansas GOP Wants to Tax Women for Abortion and Lie to Them [updated]

Kansas wants to do all that Arizona did and more. They want to make them buy "abortion insurance." And they want to collect state sales tax on abortions.

Fucking insane.

111 simoom  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:19:56pm

re: #64 Gus

I uploaded a transcript: LOST INTERVIEW FROM 1994 WITH YOUNG BARACK OBAMA

Thanks for parsing out the transcript, the video was getting hammered so that made it instead a quick read.

112 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:19:59pm

re: #106 Varek Raith

I remember the days upgrading a TRS-80 Mod 3 from 16k to 48k cost $200!

For $200 now? I could get a Kindle Fire - color screen and enough memory to store hundreds of books plus surf the net, etc. as a mobile device.

Heck, my phone has more computing power than all of my early computers combined.

113 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:20:00pm

There goes another biplane!

114 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:20:59pm

re: #109 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Color intensity is a big issue - we're conditioned to like the warm yellow light from fire/incandescents, so lights that have more blue (white) look harsh. They've gotten better with CFLs and they're doing the same with LEDs.

115 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:21:26pm

re: #108 Gus

Big time savings. That and I don't remember having to change a bulb in almost a year. They last forever.

When CFLs became more affordable, I replaced all my incandescents with them. Big dip in the electric bill. Similarly, another dip in the bill when replacing my CRTs with flat screen LCDs/LEDs.

116 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:21:40pm

Right wing smear!

BLAM!

Right wing smear!

BLAM!

Down they go like ducks in a row.

//

117 Four More Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:23:31pm

re: #115 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

When CFLs became more affordable, I replaced all my incandescents with them. Big dip in the electric bill. Similarly, another dip in the bill when replacing my CRTs with flat screen LCDs/LEDs.

LED TVs are the shiznit for energy efficiency.

118 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:24:13pm

re: #115 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

When CFLs became more affordable, I replaced all my incandescents with them. Big dip in the electric bill. Similarly, another dip in the bill when replacing my CRTs with flat screen LCDs/LEDs.

Also, much less heat output after getting rid of my CRTs. Might not sound important, but when summer days get to be around 110 degrees, you fucking notice.

119 erik_t  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:24:36pm

re: #114 lawhawk

Color intensity is a big issue - we're conditioned to like the warm yellow light from fire/incandescents, so lights that have more blue (white) look harsh. They've gotten better with CFLs and they're doing the same with LEDs.

It's more than that. Part of the unnatural quality of fluorescent light is the narrow-band nature of the white light. Rather than being a nice wide blackbody band (like, you know, a real blackbody like the sun or a filament), non-thermal lights tend to make up their white from a smaller set of individually-intense frequencies.

Relevant reading.

This is quite apart from the color temperature of the light, which is much more related to personal preference. I, for instance, cannot fucking stand the yellow-shifted 'soft white' bulbs, preferring the apparently-harsh bluer sort.

120 erik_t  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:25:41pm

re: #118 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Also, much less heat output after getting rid of my CRTs. Might not sound important, but when summer days get to be around 110 degrees, you fucking notice.

On the other hand, I can no longer warm up a slice of leftover pizza on top of my monitor at work.

Sad face.

121 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:25:55pm

re: #119 erik_t

It's more than that. Part of the unnatural quality of fluorescent light is the narrow-band nature of the white light. Rather than being a nice wide blackbody band (like, you know, a real blackbody like the sun or a filament), non-thermal lights tend to make up their white from a smaller set of individually-intense frequencies.

Relevant reading.

This is quite apart from the color temperature of the light, which is much more related to personal preference. I, for instance, cannot fucking stand the yellow-shifted 'soft white' bulbs, preferring the apparently-harsh bluer sort.

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122 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:26:54pm
123 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:27:41pm

Time and time again it's basically the same Obama. Nothing new or revealing. No radicalism. Just Obama being his usual self.

124 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:28:14pm

GET BIG GOV'T HANDS OFF MY LIGHT BULBS!!!!

What's that you say? Safe and legal abortions? Shut up bitch, stop being such a slut!
///

125 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:28:20pm

re: #123 Gus

Time and time again it's basically the same Obama. Nothing new or revealing. No radicalism. Just Obama being his usual self.

OUTRAGEOUS

126 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:29:38pm

re: #123 Gus

Aww, but they try so hard. Can't you just let 'em have this one?
/

127 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:30:53pm

re: #64 Gus

I uploaded a transcript: LOST INTERVIEW FROM 1994 WITH YOUNG BARACK OBAMA

From there:

We were involved in range of things. We worked on setting up job training programs in the community, we set up counseling programs to get them into college.

Snobbb!!1 Even then!!

128 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:31:54pm

re: #124 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

GET BIG GOV'T HANDS OFF MY LIGHT BULBS!!!

IN UR HOUSE SAVING U MONEY

129 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:32:28pm

Secret militias on the rise.
Just 149 in 2008
Now? Nearly 1,300. [fixed numbers]

Most prominent group to grow? Sovereign Citizen militias - estimated to be some 300,000 strong nationwide.

130 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:32:48pm

re: #126 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Aww, but they try so hard. Can't you just let 'em have this one?
/

Leave the Breitbartians alone!

131 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:32:51pm

re: #128 Varek Raith

IN UR HOUSE SAVING U MONEY

I CAN HAZ MOAR ELECTRONS IF I WANTZ THEM!

132 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:33:13pm

re: #127 wrenchwench

From there:

More:

You know, I think there is the old story, when America is sick, black folks have pneumonia.

Critical Race Theory is racist!

133 zora  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:33:43pm

re: #123 Gus

Time and time again it's basically the same blackety black Obama. Nothing new or revealing. No radicalism. Just Obama being his usual self.

this is their problem.

135 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:38:06pm

re: #124 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

GET BIG GOV'T HANDS OFF MY LIGHT BULBS!!!

It sounds funny, sure. But this is what basically fills up an entire hour or more of Mark Levin's show whenever the subject comes up.

136 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:38:52pm

re: #134 Gus

THIS IS WHAT I SEE WHEN I LOOK AT GOVERNMENT LIGHT BULBS!!11TY

With all those extra filaments I would have swore that Marx was an incandescent!

137 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:39:09pm

re: #135 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

It sounds funny, sure. But this is what basically fills up an entire hour or more of Mark Levin's show whenever the subject comes up.

re: #134 Gus

THIS IS WHAT I SEE WHEN I LOOK AT GOVERNMENT LIGHT BULBS!!11TY

Oh yeah, and that too. Without a hint of irony. RW talk radio is loony toons.

138 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:39:39pm

re: #10 Gus

Irony.

Meet Paul Weyrich: co-founder of the Heritage Foundation

• Paul Weyrich
• Radical
• Founder of the Heritage Foundation

I've got a book, Holy Terror. It must be thirty years old by now. It mentioned Mr. Weyrich as one of the most important people on the Right at the time, and what a danger he and his cronies posed to the U.S.

It's why none of what's happened over the last decade or so has surprised me.

139 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:41:37pm

re: #138 Romantic Heretic

It's become a radically fundamentalist religious movement dependent on lies and superstition.

140 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:44:25pm

Allred to FL prosecutors - prosecute Limbaugh for defamation under obscure FL law that makes it a crime to question a woman's chastity.

Gloria Allred, the famed celebrity lawyer, sent a letter to the Palm Beach County Attorney's Office on Thursday saying prosecutors should consider a charge under an 1883 law making it a misdemeanor to question a woman's chastity.

"He has personally targeted her and vilified her, and he should have to bear the consequences of his extremely outrageous, tasteless and damaging conduct," Allred said in a phone interview Friday.

Limbaugh had no immediate comment on the letter and didn't address it in the opening hour of his radio show Friday.

Denise Nieman, the county attorney, said she forwarded the letter to the state attorney's office, which handles criminal matters. The state attorney's office had no immediate comment.

Heh. Dumb/obsolete laws serve purpose after all.

141 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:45:20pm

WOOP WOOP! MUST CREDIT DRUDGE!

BREITBART BOMBSHELL TAPE SHOWS OBAMA ASSOCIATED WITH BLACK PEOPLE!

DEVELOPING....

142 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:45:23pm

re: #140 lawhawk

Apparently someone got prosecuted for it back in 2009.

143 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:46:00pm

re: #140 lawhawk

Allred to FL prosecutors - prosecute Limbaugh for defamation under obscure FL law that makes it a crime to question a woman's chastity.


Heh. Dumb/obsolete laws serve purpose after all.

And here comes the cause under which the nuts can rally around Rush.

144 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:47:53pm

re: #135 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

It sounds funny, sure. But this is what basically fills up an entire hour or more of Mark Levin's show whenever the subject comes up.

They don't even make incandescent light bulbs in this country anymore. Which means if they want incandescent bulbs they'll have to get some made in Communist China! Plus, since incandescents use more energy they're increasing our dependence on foreign oil thus helping to support terrorists!

//

145 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:48:43pm

re: #141 iceweasel

WOOP WOOP! MUST CREDIT DRUDGE!

BREITBART BOMBSHELL TAPE SHOWS OBAMA ASSOCIATED WITH BLACK PEOPLE!

DEVELOPING...

This is not about race!

No! Wait...

146 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:51:08pm

re: #110 Meh.

Kansas GOP Wants to Tax Women for Abortion and Lie to Them [updated]

Kansas wants to do all that Arizona did and more. They want to make them buy "abortion insurance." And they want to collect state sales tax on abortions.

Fucking insane.

Did you page that? you should, imho.

147 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:52:27pm

re: #140 lawhawk

I'm of 2 minds on this, for obvious reasons...

148 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:53:09pm

Jimmah's keyboard is out of action, so he'll just be posting the odd youtube video by way of comment.

149 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:53:46pm

re: #148 iceweasel

Jimmah's keyboard is out of action, so he'll just be posting the odd youtube video by way of comment.

Did you also send him to the kitchen to make another curry?

150 Mich-again  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:54:07pm

Here is a word from work that fits the thread. Metamerism. Its the quality that makes some objects change colors under different light sources. Like if your car looks green in the sunlight but it looks brown under mercury vapor lights in the parking lot.

151 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:54:09pm

re: #147 Creeping Diversity

I'm of 2 minds on this, for obvious reasons...

I'm concerned that this boycott has become a distraction to other larger issues!

//

152 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:54:34pm

re: #140 lawhawk

Allred to FL prosecutors - prosecute Limbaugh for defamation under obscure FL law that makes it a crime to question a woman's chastity.

Heh. Dumb/obsolete laws serve purpose after all.

That made me laugh like an evil scientist.

153 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:55:31pm

re: #148 iceweasel

Jimmah's keyboard is out of action, so he'll just be posting the odd youtube video by way of comment.

Was it a case of internet-induced rage? /

154 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:56:04pm

re: #153 Creeping Diversity

Was it a case of internet-induced rage? /

Caber-tossing accident.

156 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:57:42pm

Poor Rush.

//

157 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:58:39pm

A check would have been nice, though. :)

158 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:59:14pm

re: #157 Learned Mother of Zion

A check would have been nice, though. :)

You needed to have invited Soros to get one of those.
;)

159 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:59:26pm

re: #140 lawhawk

Allred to FL prosecutors - prosecute Limbaugh for defamation under obscure FL law that makes it a crime to question a woman's chastity.

Heh. Dumb/obsolete laws serve purpose after all.

Does this means that under Florida law all women are considered chaste until proven slutty by a court of law?

160 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:00:25pm

re: #158 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

You needed to have invited Soros to get one of those.
;)

We did invite him! He didn't even send back the pre-stamped return card.

Mitt romney, Newt gingrich and Rick Santorum WERE NOT invited!

161 simoom  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:01:47pm

CNN's Carol Costello introducing a brief panel discussion on huggate:
[Link: videos.mediaite.com...]

Carol Costello: A supposedly scandalous video, through the late Andrew Brietbart, shows Barack Obama as a Harvard student, embracing a professor considered to be a Socialist.

ಠ_ಠ

162 b_snark  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:01:48pm

re: #57 Kragar

I really fucking hate his man.

Fischer: It's 'Ridiculous' to Think Mockery & Condemnation Cause Gay Kids to Commit Suicide

A petty evil fucking bastard.

He's not too good at that thinking thing is he?

163 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:02:51pm

re: #160 Learned Mother of Zion

We did invite him! He didn't even send back the pre-stamped return card.

Mitt romney, Newt gingrich and Rick Santorum WERE NOT invited!

You invited both Soros and Obama? Impressive. Pity Soros didn't reply, I would have figured better care being taken of his agents.

164 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:03:49pm

re: #163 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

You invited both Soros and Obama? Impressive. Pity Soros didn't reply, I would have figured better care being taken of his agents.

My son actually knows Soros.

165 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:05:00pm

re: #161 simoom

CNN's Carol Costello introducing a brief panel discussion on huggate:
[Link: videos.mediaite.com...]


ಠ_ಠ

CNN isn't still talking about this, are they? Ignoring the minibreitbarts would be the best policy.

166 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:05:48pm

re: #164 Learned Mother of Zion

My son actually knows Soros.

Doubly disappointing then. :(

167 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:05:48pm

re: #57 Kragar

I really fucking hate his man.

Fischer: It's 'Ridiculous' to Think Mockery & Condemnation Cause Gay Kids to Commit Suicide

A petty evil fucking bastard.

Yay! AFA is not gay!

Lots of non-gay kids commit suicide over bullying, too. Being gay just makes up a particular subset of bullied kids.

168 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:06:50pm

re: #161 simoom

CNN's Carol Costello introducing a brief panel discussion on huggate:
[Link: videos.mediaite.com...]

ಠ_ಠ

"Are you now or have you ever been hugged by a member of the Socialist Party of the United States?"

Derp.

169 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:07:24pm

re: #166 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Doubly disappointing then. :(

Yeah well, we only invited him hoping to get a check. What the heck, can't hurt, right?

I told my daughter's in-laws they should invite the Queen (they are Brits) but I don't think they did. It would have been totally cool to get a card from the White House AND Buckingham Palace.

170 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:09:25pm

re: #165 Bulworth

CNN isn't still talking about this, are they? Ignoring the minibreitbarts would be the best policy.

I noticed that the folks at newsmax are not running the hug-gate story at all, I expected they would be splashing it all over their headlines.

171 b_snark  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:09:42pm

re: #99 Varek Raith

Heh.
I love this kind of silliness.
The curly bulbs I use cost more in the short term but last far longer than an incandescent. So, it's cheaper.

You shouldn't use logic, it confuses them.

172 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:09:42pm

re: #140 lawhawk

Allred to FL prosecutors - prosecute Limbaugh for defamation under obscure FL law that makes it a crime to question a woman's chastity.

Heh. Dumb/obsolete laws serve purpose after all.

Gloria Alred must be some special kind of stupid.

She cited a state law that says, "Whoever speaks of and concerning any woman, married or unmarried, falsely and maliciously imputing to her a want of chastity, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree.

Ignoring the obvious constitutional issues with the law, I don't thing that Sandra Fluke has maintained any pretense of chastity, she's stated that she's in a monogamous relationship. So while there's no question to the maliciousness of the attacks the test fails the "falely" clause. In any event the idea of the State digging into Fluke's sex life in order to find grounds for the charge, and then putting her up for cross examination by Limbaugh's lawyers is an incredibly disturbing prospect.

Limbaugh will also claim, plausibly, that he was speaking figuratively when he called her a prostitute, so normal defamation laws probably wouldn't fair well even if Fluke chooses to pursue him in civil court.

I want to see Rush hurt over this, and the advertising damage is something at least, but what Alred is proposing is incredibly poorly thought out.

173 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:10:09pm

re: #149 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Did you also send him to the kitchen to make another curry?

I did, earlier this evening. It was pretty tasty!

174 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:11:49pm
175 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:14:04pm

These are not new revelations, but they're in a good, compact, quotable form:

Yeah so I support the Serbs who were fighting Islamic scum. I support Pinochet who killed Marxist scum like you. He also turned Chile into a modern nation and proved Latin countries can be well run. Something you racists on the Left deny. That’s why your ilk supports Chavez and Castro because they prove your racial theories about Latin inferiority. Franco saved Spain from Communists and your ilk are still butt hurt over that. I will never apologize for my admiration of people who took on Islam or Marxism. I also supported the AUC in Colombia who put the FARC in their place.

-- Daedalus aka Rodan aka Rick Martinez

176 Ayeless in Ghazi  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:16:58pm

re: #175 Creeping Diversity

These are not new revelations, but they're in a good, compact, quotable form:

-- Daedalus aka Rodan aka Rick Martinez

Sounds like a continuation of the Anders Breivik manifesto.

177 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:21:50pm

re: #176 Jimmah

Sounds like a continuation of the Anders Breivik manifesto.

I hope he's just an internet warrior, like most of them. He might hurt innocent people, tho.

178 Origuy  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:22:47pm
I told my daughter's in-laws they should invite the Queen (they are Brits) but I don't think they did.

You don't want to do that. She brings her own bottle of Scotch and gets totally pissed at the reception.

179 Gus  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:26:20pm

re: #175 Creeping Diversity

These are not new revelations, but they're in a good, compact, quotable form:

-- Daedalus aka Rodan aka Rick Martinez

Image: 38223_NpAdvHover.jpg

180 Ayeless in Ghazi  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:28:09pm

re: #177 Creeping Diversity

I hope he's just an internet warrior, like most of them. He might hurt innocent people, tho.

'Rodan' clearly has very similar fantasies to Breivik - killing muslims, killing liberals (or 'marxists' as they would both describe them). Let's hope that, unlike Breivik, he doesn't have access to firearms.

181 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:29:39pm

re: #180 Jimmah

Recipe for a disaster:

1. Shit for brains.

2. Booze.

3. Firearms.

183 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:44:39pm

Damn, I was just about to change my nic to Jimmah and start posting for him, but we found batteries for his keyboard.

184 Ayeless in Ghazi  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:47:07pm

re: #182 Gus

Here we see Francisco Franco cheerfully greeting Adolph Hitler.

He's only not a fan of Hitler because he got beaten.

185 Ayeless in Ghazi  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:47:48pm

re: #183 iceweasel

Damn, I was just about to change my nic to Jimmah and start posting for him, but we found batteries for his keyboard.

YAAY no more dashing across to the other end of the room to post anymore :)

186 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:52:55pm

re: #185 Jimmah

YAAY no more dashing across to the other end of the room to post anymore :)

but I was going to change my nic to Jimmah!

187 b_snark  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 2:53:19pm

re: #183 iceweasel

Damn, I was just about to change my nic to Jimmah and start posting for him, but we found batteries for his keyboard.

Run out of gerbils, or did their wheel break?

188 BeenHereAwhile  Fri, Mar 9, 2012 3:24:35pm

re: #104 lawhawk

To recap:
Incandescents are cheap to purchase, but have higher operating costs because they are ridiculously inefficient.

LEDs are significantly more expensive than CFLs but promise even better efficiency and longer life (especially in harsher conditions - outdoors, dimming, etc) that would take their toll on CFL. Breakeven is a couple of years based on current prices.

LEDs don't produce the "desired" 3200K color temperature very well, thus not all the reluctance to using LEDs is due to politics.

Within a few years, the LED will drop in price significantly and breakeven will fall to the same range as CFLs - with much better light and controlling (for dimmers, which are a problem with many CFLs unless specifically built for dimmers).

Dimmers for LED exist, but I suspect the method used for dimming may shorten life of the LED.

YMMV


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