GOP Primaries: Alabama and Mississippi

Clown car arrives in deep South

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The polls are just closing in Alabama and Mississippi, so here’s a thread to keep up on breaking news from “the most important race in our lifetime.” — Newt Gingrich

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engineer cat Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:06:19pm

most important race in our

“if you can’t live without me how come you’re not dead yet?”

b_sharp Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:06:54pm

Any race Newt is in is the “most important race in our lifetime.”

His head is sooo… BIG!!!

jaunte Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:10:02pm

“A mere forty years ago, beach volleyball was just beginning. No bureaucrat would have invented it, and that’s what freedom is all about.”
Deep thoughts, by Newt Gingrich

Kragar Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:10:07pm

Know what we need? Another debate!

And then at the convention, we can bring back the guys that were voted off the island.

b_sharp Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:12:43pm

re: #4 Kragar

Know what we need? Another debate!

And then at the convention, we can bring back the guys that were voted off the island.

Great idea for a reality show. Let’s put together a script and get some funding.

Kragar Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:14:49pm

And to keep us entertained …

Youtube Video

BongCrodny Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:17:28pm

I can’t wait to see who wins! The guy who’s running from his signature accomplishment, the guy who resigned in disgrace, or the guy who lost his last race by 18 percentage points!

Targetpractice Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:19:49pm

re: #7 BongCrodny

I can’t wait to see who wins! The guy who’s running from his signature accomplishment, the guy who resigned in disgrace, or the guy who lost his last race by 18 percentage points!

What happened, did the guy whose legislative career has seen not a single bill he’s written made law drop out while I wasn’t looking?

Stanghazi Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:20:11pm

re: #4 Kragar

Know what we need? Another debate!

And then at the convention, we can bring back the guys that were voted off the island.

Annnnd Sister Sarah, cause she’s obviously bummed she quit the race.

Decatur Deb Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:21:41pm

They posted the rules for Alabama ID at the polls. Seemed pretty reasonable, they would take about 20 forms of picture ID. I don’t remember if there was anything new, except the heavy posting.

Robert O. Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:22:13pm

See CNN exit polls here:

Alabama: [Link: www.cnn.com…]
Mississippi: [Link: www.cnn.com…]

It looks like Frothy is ahead in AL, while Romney is ahead in MS (!) Dammit! I want Frothy to win both states, knock out Gingrich, make this a one-on-one race so the circular firing squad can continue!!!

Stanghazi Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:22:38pm

The religious vote. How bout a good ole American vote?

This is freaky.

Stanghazi Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:23:41pm

8.17 pm. Big tent update: the black vote was 2 percent of the total, in states where the African-American population is 37 percent (MS) and 27 percent (AL).

BongCrodny Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:23:47pm

re: #8 Targetpractice

What happened, did the guy whose legislative career has seen not a single bill he’s written made law drop out while I wasn’t looking?

I’m only including the guys whose chances to win are > .0001%.

jaunte Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:24:29pm

Romney in Kirkwood, MO
Drill Baby Drill is the energy plan, and “we’re going to get rid of Planned Parenthood.”

BongCrodny Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:25:35pm

Convicts are going to be carrying the ballot boxes?

Cue the conspiracy theories.

rwmofo Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:27:04pm

I hear they let Biden out in public again. What could possibly go wrong?

“These guys don’t have a sense of the average folks out there,” Biden said according to the pool report, “They don’t know what it means to be middle class.”

87 guests paid a minimum of $10,000-per-couple to attend the dinner.

Ya have to go all the way back to Al Gore to find a VP this out of touch with reality.

Stanghazi Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:27:14pm

Mississippi’s concern for ballot security trumped by traditional desire for ritual humiliation of prisoners #values #balance

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) March 14, 2012

Robert O. Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:27:26pm

re: #13 Stanley Sea for a while, till someone screws up

I was just about to post the same thing. Beat me to it. :)

jaunte Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:27:47pm

re: #17 rwmofo

Your blood sugar must be low again. Have a sandwich.

BongCrodny Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:28:04pm

re: #17 rwmofo

I hear they let Biden out in public again. What could possibly go wrong?

“These guys don’t have a sense of the average folks out there,” Biden said according to the pool report, “They don’t know what it means to be middle class.”

87 guests paid a minimum of $10,000-per-couple to attend the dinner.

Ya have to go all the way back to Al Gore to find a VP this out of touch with reality.

Drive-by derp!

Henchman 25 Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:30:29pm

re: #17 rwmofo

Drive By Troll strikes again!

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:30:32pm

re: #17 rwmofo

I hear they let Biden out in public again. What could possibly go wrong?

“These guys don’t have a sense of the average folks out there,” Biden said according to the pool report, “They don’t know what it means to be middle class.”

87 guests paid a minimum of $10,000-per-couple to attend the dinner.

Ya have to go all the way back to Al Gore to find a VP this out of touch with reality.

You supported the view that Sandra Fluke is a promiscous woman. Care to apologize?

Killgore Trout Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:30:38pm

re: #20 jaunte

Your blood sugar must be low again. Have a sandwich.

Aw, C’mon. If you can’t laugh at Biden then who can you laugh at?

jaunte Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:30:59pm

Friendly fire incident:
AUDIO- Rick Santorum: Fox News “shilling” for Romney.
Kilmeade: “We’ve been requesting you for 3 months… gotten nothing.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:31:15pm

re: #24 Killgore Trout

It’s not about Biden. It’s about the troll.

jaunte Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:31:31pm

re: #24 Killgore Trout

I just think rw should stick around for a longer conversation.

jaunte Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:32:22pm

re: #24 Killgore Trout

My favorite Biden laugh is the Camaro photoshop.

BongCrodny Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:32:28pm

re: #23 Freeze Peach

You supported the view that Sandra Fluke is a promiscous woman. Care to apologize?

I doubt he’s even here.

Mofo usually only stops by just to pee in the punch bowl.

Stanghazi Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:32:57pm

The GOP race has officially bored the trolls. Bring on BIDEN!

lol

jaunte Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:33:15pm

re: #28 jaunte

Correction, TransAm: [Link: www.theonion.com…]

jaunte Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:35:10pm

I’ll have to cut out the HotPockets.
[Link: grist.org…]

Gus Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:35:25pm

Another tortuous Republican primary night. It’s second to watching these cavemen “debate” each other — invariably it turns into a chest beating and penis measuring contest. Man I can’t wait for this to be over with.

Killgore Trout Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:35:29pm

re: #30 Stanley Sea for a while, till someone screws up

The GOP race has officially bored the trolls. Bring on BIDEN!

lol

It will be fun to see who Biden gets to debate against. I’m looking forward to it. Obama-Mitt debates are going to be a snooze.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:36:58pm

re: #33 Gus

Another tortuous Republican primary night. It’s second to watching these cavemen “debate” each other — invariably it turns into a chest beating and penis measuring contest. Man I can’t wait for this to be over with.

Heh. I would post a link to a certain recent Oglaf at this point, but I dare not.

Obdicut Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:37:32pm

re: #35 Freeze Peach

Blood and fire!

wrenchwench Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:37:52pm

John Lee Hooker For President

Later, lizards.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:38:07pm

re: #36 Obdicut

The one with “why didn’t I think of it before” punchline.

Kragar Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:38:26pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

It will be fun to see who Biden gets to debate against. I’m looking forward to it. Obama-Mitt debates are going to be a snooze.

Biden challenges GOP VP nominee to go a few rounds at the bar after work: “I’ll drink his pansy ass under the table.”

Targetpractice Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:38:42pm

re: #33 Gus

Another tortuous Republican primary night. It’s second to watching these cavemen “debate” each other — invariably it turns into a chest beating and penis measuring contest. Man I can’t wait for this to be over with.

You kiddin’? This is some high quality entertainment. How often is it that primaries go this long without a clear winner? That the prospect of a brokered convention seems like a very real scenario instead of a hypothetical one? That the party’s “Least Wanted” actually are seen as potential names thrown into the hat at said convention?

I don’t think I have nearly enough popcorn for the rest of this circus.

Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:39:15pm

re: #33 Gus

Another tortuous Republican primary night. It’s second to watching these cavemen “debate” each other — invariably it turns into a chest beating and penis measuring contest. Man I can’t wait for this to be over with.

I’ve gotten the impression that the GOP is more penis beating and chest measuring than the other way ‘round.

Obdicut Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:39:20pm

re: #38 Freeze Peach

Oh, you made me think of the all-gay barbarians.

BongCrodny Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:39:23pm

re: #35 Freeze Peach

Heh. I would post a link to a certain recent Oglaf at this point, but I dare not.

I know which one you’re talking about!

austin_blue Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:39:27pm

re: #31 jaunte

Correction, TransAm: [Link: www.theonion.com…]

What a regular guy!

But he needs a Ratt t-shirt.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:39:36pm

re: #36 Obdicut

Make that “I can’t believe we’ve been making them fight this whole time”. ;)

Gus Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:41:03pm

re: #17 rwmofo

I hear they let Biden out in public again. What could possibly go wrong?

“These guys don’t have a sense of the average folks out there,” Biden said according to the pool report, “They don’t know what it means to be middle class.”

87 guests paid a minimum of $10,000-per-couple to attend the dinner.

Ya have to go all the way back to Al Gore to find a VP this out of touch with reality.

Shocking! Right. Let’s see. So should Biden instead have said nothing or “speak up” about more tax cuts for the super rich and left the minimum at $10,000 or should have he spoken up as he did and reduced the minimum to say 100 bucks? Maybe next time the White House should consult with you.

So who’s your choice for VP for the Republicans this year? Joe da’ Plumber?

Killgore Trout Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:41:33pm

re: #39 Kragar

Biden challenges GOP VP nominee to go a few rounds at the bar after work: “I’ll drink his pansy ass under the table.”

I want Charlie Rose to moderate the beer pong match.

Girth Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:41:36pm

re: #41 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I’ve gotten the impression that the GOP is more penis beating and chest measuring than the other way ‘round.

And the beatings will continue until morale improves.

SpaceJesus Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:41:41pm

I firmly believe that the “(possibly) leader of the civilizing forces” will prevail in these contests

Targetpractice Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:43:49pm

re: #49 SpaceJesus

I firmly believe that the “(possibly) leader of the civilizing forces” will prevail in these contests

Should be hilarious if he does.

JAFO Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:46:10pm

Mississippi has Gingrich leading now.

BongCrodny Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:47:10pm

re: #45 Freeze Peach

Make that “I can’t believe we’ve been making them fight this whole time”. ;)

Oh, my bad. Given the primaries, I thought you were talking about the one with the goat fucker.

SpaceJesus Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:47:16pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

depends on how “anti-moon” Hawaii is

The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:47:48pm

Newt is right.

The executive branch is dangerously close to black men hugging. That how Nat Turner’s massacre started.

Kragar Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:48:06pm

re: #51 Ghost of Tom Joad

Mississippi has Gingrich leading now.

The third wife thing finally gives him an edge!

SpaceJesus Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:49:08pm

America’s elected war criminal and resident king idiot has something to say about today’s upbeat stock market report

[Link: thinkprogress.org…]

The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:50:01pm

re: #55 Kragar

The third wife thing finally gives him an edge!

Marrying a Hypnotoad has advantages.

Shiplord Kirel Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:50:03pm

I understand that then VP Richard Nixon attended a speech by Kruschev during Nixon’s 1958 visit to Moscow, and even shook the commie kingpin’s hand afterward.
Imagine if today’s GOP activists had been around in 1968. They would no doubt assume from the 1958 encounter that Nixon was a secret Red, plotting with the unions and the fluoride industry to communize America. They would probably have gone with George Romney, oddly enough.

Robert O. Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:51:08pm

re: #55 Kragar

The third wife thing finally gives him an edge!

The three-way is a real frothy mess for Republican officials. It is difficult to tell who is going to come from behind and who is currently on top.

Gus Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:51:23pm

America

Targetpractice Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:52:10pm

re: #56 SpaceJesus

America’s elected war criminal and resident king idiot has something to say about today’s upbeat stock market report

[Link: thinkprogress.org…]

I’ve noticed that’s one of those that always gets floated in an election year. Either the market is falling/contracting due to investors taking money out of the market due to fears of a Democrat winning the presidency or becoming bullish due to the prediction of a “business-friendly” Republican getting elected.

Decatur Deb Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:52:42pm

re: #56 SpaceJesus

America’s elected war criminal and resident king idiot has something to say about today’s upbeat stock market report

[Link: thinkprogress.org…]

Winnah in the comments:

“Allen West, proof that the KKK is becoming more diverse.
The World laughs at our ignorance.”

Kragar Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:53:43pm

re: #59 Robert O.

The three-way is a real frothy mess for Republican officials. It is difficult to tell who is going to come from behind and who is currently on top.

Way too much imagery there.

The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:54:18pm

re: #56 SpaceJesus

America’s elected war criminal and resident king idiot has something to say about today’s upbeat stock market report

[Link: thinkprogress.org…]

Time/space causality is a liberal plot. The Invisible Hand of Free Market Jesus transcends the fourth dimension.

Shiplord Kirel Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:54:53pm

re: #59 Robert O.

The three-way is a real frothy mess for Republican officials. It is difficult to tell who is going to come from behind and who is currently on top.

As long as their insurance company isn’t forced to pay for the condoms, I don’t care!

SpaceJesus Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:54:57pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

I wonder how many thousands of points the market would tumble if West were running and out-polling Obama right now

jaunte Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:56:15pm

re: #56 SpaceJesus

CAVUTO: Wait a minute, you think that this is built on a Republican either capturing the White House or Republicans capturing the Senate? … That might or might not be a stretch, but it is out there as a factor.

Cavuto, you card.

Killgore Trout Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:56:38pm

re: #60 Gus

America

Youtube Video

Targetpractice Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:57:01pm

re: #66 SpaceJesus

I wonder how many thousands of points the market would tumble if West were running and out-polling Obama right now

If West were running and out-polling Obama, then I’d be looking for the exits right about now.

BongCrodny Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:57:11pm

The past tense of “put” is “put,” but apparently the past tense of “input” is “inputted.”

Kid A Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:59:50pm

re: #65 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

As long as their insurance company isn’t forced to pay for the condoms, I don’t care!

These frothy Republicans are having so much sex, I’m surprised they can walk!!!

The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:00:01pm

re: #70 BongCrodny

The past tense of “put” is “put,” but apparently the past tense of “input” is “inputted.”

English: fucking over grammatical elegance since Chaucer.

Stanghazi Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:00:29pm

re: #59 Robert O.

The three-way is a real frothy mess for Republican officials. It is difficult to tell who is going to come from behind and who is currently on top.

And then they will revert to missionary Sister Sarah.

Kragar Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:00:29pm

re: #67 jaunte

Cavuto, you card.

I think the magical invisible unicorn farts might also be a factor.

Obdicut Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:02:27pm

re: #60 Gus

America

More America:

Youtube Video

The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:03:06pm

re: #66 SpaceJesus

I wonder how many thousands of points the market would tumble if West were running and out-polling Obama right now

Invest in waterboarding paraphernalia and private prisons.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:03:20pm

re: #75 Obdicut

And more:

Youtube Video

But fuck O’Reilly.

jaunte Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:04:30pm

We need a system where somehow voters communicate directly to Nate Silver and he just tells us who won.
— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) March 14, 2012

Obdicut Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:05:02pm

re: #77 Freeze Peach

All the Brad Neely stuff is just fucking genius.

America: Status.

Youtube Video

Achilles Tang Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:06:43pm

re: #3 jaunte

“A mere forty years ago, beach volleyball was just beginning. No bureaucrat would have invented it, and that’s what freedom is all about.”
Deep thoughts, by Newt Gingrich

“A mere 42 years ago American men landed on the moon. No private enterprise would have invented the possibility, and that’s what efficient bureaucracy is all about.”

Deep thoughts, by Me.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:07:21pm

Then of course there’s always MM:

Youtube Video

Charles Johnson Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:07:23pm

Mitt Romney: “Planned Parenthood, we’re going to get rid of that.”

Obdicut Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:08:46pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Mitt Romney: “Planned Parenthood, we’re going to get rid of that.”

Small government is all about destroying nonprofits that help people get access to healthcare.

Girth Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:08:54pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Mitt Romney: Planned Parenthood, we’re going to get rid of that.

It will be very interesting in November to see how big Obama carries female voters.

Targetpractice Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:08:57pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Mitt Romney: “Planned Parenthood, we’re going to get rid of that.”

I’m beginning to agree with earlier sentiments that the GOP’s War on Women may be the thing that ends up losing this election for them.

jaunte Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:09:27pm

Sarah Posner:
5 Reasons Why the GOP Push to Defund Planned Parenthood Won’t Go Away

1. The Republican Party’s religious right base has been led to believe for years that “defunding Planned Parenthood” is a principal goal of a Republican Congressional takeover.
2. The Tea Party and social conservatives are not separate parts of the Republican leadership, Republican majority, or the Republican base.
3. Republicans and anti-choice activists are unabashed about lying about Planned Parenthood.
4. Defunding Planned Parenthood satisfies the anti-choice base, but also a more religiously radical part of the base.
5. With much of the anti-choice legislative activity taking place at the state level, Republican presidential candidates will need a federal issue to make a centerpiece of their campaigns.

Kragar Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:09:46pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Mitt Romney: “Planned Parenthood, we’re going to get rid of that.”

What war on women?

Anyone other US Affiliates of international NGO Romney wants to do away with?

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:10:33pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Mitt Romney: Planned Parenthood, we’re going to get rid of that.

But, you see, Romney is a reasonable, rational, moderate Republican.

Obdicut Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:10:59pm

re: #87 Kragar

To be fair, in context, he’s talking about government funding for the programs . Still fucking stupid.

The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:11:12pm

re: #74 Kragar

I think the magical invisible unicorn farts might also be a factor.

Magicial invisible unicorn farts are really more a factor in particle physics and thermodynamics.

FemNaziBitch Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:11:18pm

meerkittehs!

Achilles Tang Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:11:22pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Mitt Romney: “Planned Parenthood, we’re going to get rid of that.”

He’s going to fire them (that)?//

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:11:30pm

re: #81 Freeze Peach

Then of course there’s always MM:

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BTW, a lyric from this song fits: “We don’t like to kill our unborn, we need them to grow up and fight our wars”.

Obdicut Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:11:31pm

re: #88 Freeze Peach

But, you see, Romney is a reasonable, rational, moderate Republican.

That’s why he’s couching this election in gibberingly religious terms.

Gus Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:12:14pm

re: #88 Freeze Peach

But, you see, Romney is a reasonable, rational, moderate Republican.

Seriously. If you compare Romney to Obama there really isn’t much difference between the two.

aagcobb Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:12:16pm

America

Youtube Video

The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:12:55pm

re: #81 Freeze Peach

Then of course there’s always MM:

[Embedded content]

And Allen Ginsburg.

Update: Recited by the poet, with music by Tom Waits

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:13:00pm

re: #95 Gus

Seriously. If you compare Romney to Obama there really isn’t much difference between the two.

//

I hear some Lizards will be looking into Romney too. Let’s wait for their verdict.

Achilles Tang Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:13:26pm

Where’s Carla? This is right up his/her alley.

100

Kragar Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:13:36pm

re: #89 Obdicut

To be fair, in context, he’s talking about government funding for the programs . Still fucking stupid.

I’m waiting for them to talk about pulling out of the UN, thats always good for a laugh.

101

Varek Raith Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:13:51pm

re: #98 Freeze Peach

I hear some Lizards will be looking into Romney too. Let’s wait for their verdict.

//

I am.
I think he’s a good choice to cut my lawn.

102

Gus Tue, Mar 13, 2012 6:14:31pm

re: #96 Weareallslutsnow

America

[Embedded content]

The Teeth Mother Naked at Last
by Robert Bly

” Massive engines lift beautifully from the deck.
Wings appear over the trees, wings with eight hundred rivets.

Engines burning a thousand gallons of gasoline a minute sweep over the huts with dirt floors.
The chickens feel the new fear deep in the pits of their beaks.
Buddha with Padma Sambhava.

Meanwhile, out on the China Sea,
immense gray bodies are floating,
born in Roanoke,
the ocean on both sides expanding, “buoyed on the dense marine.”

Helicopters flutter overhead. The death-
bee is coming. Super Sabres
like knots of neurotic energy sweep
around and return.
This is Hamilton?s triumph.
This is the advantage of a centralized bank.
B-52s come from Guam. All the teachers
die in flames. The hopes of Tolstoy fall asleep in the ant heap.
Do not ask for mercy…”