Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett has some helpful advice for women disturbed by the idea of a Republican-mandated ultrasound slut-shaming session: just lay back and “close your eyes.”
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:41:23pm |
“And instead of man and man, you’d be butt buddies.” Seriously who does this idiot think he’s fooling?
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jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:41:48pm |
I repeat, try that during your next colonoscopy and let me know how it turns out for you…..
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:41:50pm |
That’s what a rapist might say to his victim.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:44:34pm |
November’s gonna see the worst case of buyer’s remorse in electoral history.
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Simply Sarah Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:45:46pm |
Well, I must say I’m relieved to hear they won’t be going A Clockwork Orange on us. That makes it all better. Now excuse me, I need to go address this angry shaking I’ve developed.
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:45:57pm |
I can’t keep up with all the anti-abortion, anti-sex initiatives by our illustrious anti-government laboratories of democracy.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:46:27pm |
re: #5 Targetpractice
November’s gonna see the worst case of buyer’s remorse in electoral history.
I think there’s a lot of that in these states. I’m really hoping the Democrats run someone good here in Va in 2013 because I don’t want Bolling or especially Cuccinnelli anywhere near the governor’s mansion. McDonnell is bad enough.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:46:57pm |
“as long as it’s not INVASIVE?”
Is that really what he said?
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:47:13pm |
BTW, the Doonesbury series has been pretty good this week. Various RWNJ are getting massive butthurt over it.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:47:44pm |
re: #12 Bulworth
BTW, the Doonesbury series has been pretty good this week. Various RWNJ are getting massive butthurt over it.
If you’re getting butthurt over Doonesbury, you just may be a thin skinned RWNJ.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:48:07pm |
re: #4 Freeze Peach
That’s what a rapist might say to his victim.
Some mother used to say that to their daughters about their wedding night …
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Simply Sarah Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:48:50pm |
re: #14 ggt
Some mother used to say that to their daughters about their wedding night …
Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:50:08pm |
re: #15 Simply Sarah
Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
You could be making your grocery shopping list in your head or thinking of how much Jesus loves you for doing your marital duty… .
/gah
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Kragar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:51:20pm |
As previously stated, Corbett can go right ahead and fuck right off.
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Sionainn Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:51:39pm |
re: #11 ggt
“as long as it’s not INVASIVE?”
Is that really what he said?
Yes, that’s really what he said.
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Jolo5309 Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:52:53pm |
Just out of morbid curiosity, will these be videotaped for Rush to watch later? I mean it is taxpayer funded so perhaps Rush feels entitled to watch these as well…
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AlexRogan Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:53:09pm |
Governor Corbett, you might as well have also said, “You might as well just relax and enjoy it!”
Knuckledragging fucktard…
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Coracle Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:54:33pm |
He clearly looks uncomfortable discussing it. It’s a crying shame a woman reporter wasn’t asking him the question.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:55:11pm |
Question: If its not medically necessary, and women can just choose to ignore it, why mandate it? Without even addressing the attack on women, how does this lead to smaller government, reduce healthcare costs, or protect personal freedom and liberty that the GOP keeps telling us they uphold and protect?
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:55:33pm |
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Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:55:38pm |
As this post notes, he’s also lying about it being exterior and not interior. If the embryo is small enough— as in, during the most common times for women to seek abortions— then a transvaginal wand will be used.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:55:46pm |
He said “as long as it’s exterior and not interior”
I don’t think he’s talking about the intravaginal ultrasound. I could be wrong.
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:57:20pm |
Fortunately my home state of NJ has an all Dem legislature (I think) so governor bluster can’t ram any of these waronwomen bills down that state’s throat.
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BLUE POINT 09 Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:57:26pm |
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Kragar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:57:39pm |
re: #24 Obdicut
As this post notes, he’s also lying about it being exterior and not interior. If the embryo is small enough— as in, during the most common times for women to seek abortions— then a transvaginal wand will be used.
“You can choose any one you like as long as it meets these criteria.”
“That only leaves me with one choice.”
“Made up your mind I see.”
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BLUE POINT 09 Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:58:05pm |
re: #22 Kragar
Question: If its not medically necessary, and women can just choose to ignore it, why mandate it? Without even addressing the attack on women, how does this lead to smaller government, reduce healthcare costs, or protect personal freedom and liberty that the GOP keeps telling us they uphold and protect?
Stop making sense.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:58:31pm |
re: #24 Obdicut
As this post notes, he’s also lying about it being exterior and not interior. If the embryo is small enough— as in, during the most common times for women to seek abortions— then a transvaginal wand will be used.
So he talks about the exterior to answer the questions, but knows it will likely be interior.
That sounds pretty damn dishonest.
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palomino Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:58:47pm |
What a crock. As if a woman seeking an abortion doesn’t know that there’s a fetus growing inside her that would eventually turn into a baby. That’s why she wants the abortion in the first place.
If it’s just about “closing your eyes,” then the whole thing is a waste of time just meant to humiliate women.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:59:23pm |
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Coracle Thu, Mar 15, 2012 12:59:50pm |
re: #31 palomino
If it’s just about “closing your eyes,” then the whole thing is a waste of time just meant to humiliate women.
I don’t think they’re pretending otherwise at this point.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:04:07pm |
re: #31 palomino
What a crock. As if a woman seeking an abortion doesn’t know that there’s a fetus growing inside her that would eventually turn into a baby. That’s why she wants the abortion in the first place.
If it’s just about “closing your eyes,” then the whole thing is a waste of time just meant to humiliate women.
It’s the whole “informed consent” BS that they like to push, namely that the woman must be “informed” about what’s in her and made to dwell on it for 24-48 hours before she can be allowed to “consent” to going ahead with the procedure.
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gehazi Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:06:12pm |
re: #30 My Name is Muerte!
So he talks about the exterior to answer the questions, but knows it will likely be interior.
That sounds pretty damn dishonest.
Isn’t it possible that he is actually uncomfortable with the bill/posturing? Or is genuinely ignorant I suppose…
In addition, I do think the headline is a *bit* unfair to him, since he didn’t say “just close your eyes” in a “think of England” way, but in response to the question of “is making them watch going too far”?
Naturally, he responded with “I don’t know how you make anyone watch, okay, cause you just have to close your eyes.” True, and not much of a slut-shamer, who might indeed have ranted about Clockwork Orange style ultrasounds.
And I say this as a someone solidly against any such laws and completely opposed to the Right-Wing 19th century agenda. He may be passively/tacitly in support of the crazies, but this clip does not indicate anything more. That’s plenty bad, of course, but let’s measure our attacks in proportion?
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:07:39pm |
re: #34 Targetpractice
It’s the whole “informed consent” BS that they like to push, namely that the woman must be “informed” about what’s in her and made to dwell on it for 24-48 hours before she can be allowed to “consent” to going ahead with the procedure.
Had the women gone through the ‘Politically Correct’ instead of the ‘Conservatively Correct Planned Ignorance’ health classes while in school, she’s already know ‘what’s in her’.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:07:48pm |
re: #34 Targetpractice
It’s the whole “informed consent” BS that they like to push, namely that the woman must be “informed” about what’s in her and made to dwell on it for 24-48 hours before she can be allowed to “consent” to going ahead with the procedure.
Saw the informed consent argument being used to keep clinically dead people on life support indefinitely. The article said hospitals only wanted to pull the plug so they could harvest organs.
This was in the WSJ.
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jaunte Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:08:03pm |
Sure, the government can force you into an unnecessary and invasive medical procedure, but just pretend it isn’t happening.
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Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:08:25pm |
re: #35 gehazi
Except they’d have to close their eyes, in many cases, while a vaginal wand was inserted, so it really is in a ‘think of England’ way.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:08:50pm |
re: #35 gehazi
Isn’t it possible that he is actually uncomfortable with the bill/posturing? Or is genuinely ignorant I suppose…
In addition, I do think the headline is a *bit* unfair to him, since he didn’t say “just close your eyes” in a “think of England” way, but in response to the question of “is making them watch going too far”?
Naturally, he responded with “I don’t know how you make anyone watch, okay, cause you just have to close your eyes.”
And I say this as a someone solidly against any such laws and completely opposed to the Right-Wing 19th century agenda. He may be passively/tacitly in support of the crazies, but this clip does not indicate anything more. That’s plenty bad, of course, but let’s measure our attacks in proportion?
So, he doesn’t think people can be forced into undergoing these procedures, but his only advice to them is “close your eyes”?
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AlexRogan Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:09:45pm |
re: #31 palomino
What a crock. As if a woman seeking an abortion doesn’t know that there’s a fetus growing inside her that would eventually turn into a baby. That’s why she wants the abortion in the first place.
If it’s just about “closing your eyes,” then the whole thing is a waste of time just meant to humiliate women.
Oh, it’s not just about wasting time and humiliation, but about wasting money too. It’s as much about driving up the cost of the whole ball of wax to make abortions as cost-prohibitive as possible, for individuals and for orgs such as PP that eat a lot of the costs.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:09:48pm |
Remember the good old days when being forced to pay for unnecessary medical procedures was called fraud and malpractice?
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gehazi Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:09:51pm |
re: #39 Obdicut
In practice, yes. But he doesn’t appear to mean it in this way. I’ll grant that I know nothing about Gov. Corbett, but I’m trying to charitable to his actual words and inflections.
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:10:07pm |
Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett has some helpful advice for women disturbed by the idea of a Republican-mandated ultrasound slut-shaming session
Remember when a whole flock of super-patriotic, conservative Americans threated 2nd Amendment solutions at the mere prospect of universal health coverage? Good times. /
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:10:27pm |
What I just emailed to my congress critters:
Do you know how you score on Planned Parenthood’s scorecard? I do and vote accordingly.
Reproductive Choice is a human right, as basic as the right to Self Defense. Republican’s really need to grasp this concept.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:11:12pm |
re: #40 Targetpractice
So, he doesn’t think people can be forced into undergoing these procedures, but his only advice to them is “close your eyes”?
It looks to me like he’s divorced himself from the emotional manipulation and has focused on just the mechanics of the procedure. That smacks of self delusion more than anything else.
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gehazi Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:11:51pm |
re: #40 Targetpractice
So, he doesn’t think people can be forced into undergoing these procedures, but his only advice to them is “close your eyes”?
He isn’t responding to a question of whether they should be forced to have a wand shoved inside them, he’s responding to a question about being forced to watch the monitor.
That’s a weakness of the reporter’s question, if anything. Being forced to watch a monitor is small potatoes to having a wand shoved up in your vagina. (I presume.)
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:12:08pm |
re: #46 My Name is Muerte!
It looks to me like he’s divorced himself from the emotional manipulation and has focused on just the mechanics of the procedure. That smacks of self delusion more than anything else.
Sounds to me like a guy who’s focused on his election chances than his conscience. That he may personally oppose the bill, but is going along with it to polish his “social conservative” credentials.
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Jolo5309 Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:12:18pm |
re: #33 Coracle
I don’t think they’re pretending otherwise at this point.
It isn’t about humiliating women, it is about punishing them. If these women think they can go around having so much sex they need to buy extra contraceptives, then when they get pregnant can expel the fruits of our labours from themselves, they better be punished for not taking our sacred seed and liking it!
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:12:21pm |
Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett has some helpful advice for women disturbed by the idea of a Republican-mandated ultrasound slut-shaming session: just lay back and “close your eyes.”
Well, at least our new teabag overlords aren’t orchestrating a “government takeover of healthcare”. /
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gehazi Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:12:56pm |
re: #48 Targetpractice
I agree, which is what I was trying to argue above. Not that he shouldn’t be called to account for supporting the crazies.
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AlexRogan Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:13:21pm |
re: #50 Bulworth
Well, at least our new teabag overlords aren’t orchestrating a “government takeover of healthcare”. /
Oh no, they wouldn’t DREAM of that!
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:13:51pm |
re: #47 gehazi
He isn’t responding to a question of whether they should be forced to have a wand shoved inside them, he’s responding to a question about being forced to watch the monitor.
That’s a weakness of the reporter’s question, if anything. Being forced to watch a monitor is small potatoes to having a wand shoved up in your vagina. (I presume.)
The whole argument behind cramming wands up women is that they can be made to see what’s in there. The laws that have been proposed/passed so far make it a point that the doctor has to point out what he can see to the patient. If the patient can respond to all this by just closing her eyes, then what’s the frakin’ point of doing it in the first place?
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:13:54pm |
re: #49 Jolo5309
It isn’t about humiliating women, it is about punishing them. If these women think they can go around having so much sex they need to buy extra contraceptives, then when they get pregnant can expel the fruits of our labours from themselves, they better be punished for not taking our sacred seed and liking it!
‘Abortion is just another form of contraception.’
I’ve actually heard that stated.
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gehazi Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:15:03pm |
re: #53 Targetpractice
The whole argument behind cramming wands up women is that they can be made to see what’s in there. The laws that have been proposed/passed so far make it a point that the doctor has to point out what he can see to the patient. If the patient can respond to all this by just closing her eyes, then what’s the frakin’ point of doing it in the first place?
Which is exactly the kind of question the reporter should have followed up with. Or asked in the first place.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:15:45pm |
re: #55 gehazi
Which is exactly the kind of question the reported should have followed up with. Or asked in the first place.
And the failure to do so makes his response of “close your eyes” somewhat less stupid?
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:16:56pm |
re: #54 My Name is Muerte!
‘Abortion is just another form of contraception.’
I’ve actually heard that stated.
It is a form of birth control. So is infanticide, in that sense.
Sexual education and contraception are very good ways of avoiding the necessity of abortion, but those are also seen as evil by a lot of socons.
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AlexRogan Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:17:42pm |
re: #53 Targetpractice
The whole argument behind cramming wands up women is that they can be made to see what’s in there. The laws that have been proposed/passed so far make it a point that the doctor has to point out what he can see to the patient. If the patient can respond to all this by just closing her eyes, then what’s the frakin’ point of doing it in the first place?
Because they can, under the color of law, that’s why; it’s about control over others.
Also, see my previous post; it’s about about making it as cost-prohibitive as possible.
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gehazi Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:18:18pm |
re: #56 Targetpractice
And the failure to do so makes his response of “close your eyes” somewhat less stupid?
He’s a politician, he isn’t going to venture a real opinion about a controversial topic that his party is pushing without being pressured.
We need a media that is willing to push politicians, especially ones that passively allow the crazies to gain the reins of power. Make them justify those policies, point by point.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:19:53pm |
Seems to me if you were really anti-abortion, you would be backing better sex education and access to birth control so fewer women would need abortions, rather than hiding the truth and then punishing women who get pregnant.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:20:35pm |
re: #59 gehazi
He’s a politician, he isn’t going to venture a real opinion about a controversial topic that his party is pushing without being pressured.
We need a media that is willing to push politicians, especially ones that passively allow the crazies to gain the reins of power. Make them justify those policies, point by point.
Agreed, but until then, stupid utterances like this deserve to be lampooned.
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Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:22:46pm |
re: #43 gehazi
In practice, yes. But he doesn’t appear to mean it in this way. I’ll grant that I know nothing about Gov. Corbett, but I’m trying to charitable to his actual words and inflections.
I”m sorry, I really don’t get your point. His actual words are lying.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:23:20pm |
Mississippi Republicans Push to Mandate Transvaginal Ultrasounds, Renew Personhood Amendment Fight
The Mississippi House approved a bill that would require women seeking abortions to acknowledge when unborn children have detectable heartbeats, in some cases necessitating invasive transvaginal ultrasounds.
There is no provision in the House Bill 1196 exempting women who have been victims of rape or incest from the transvaginal ultrasound.
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Rep. Rita Martinson, R-Madison, rebutted Wooten’s statement, specifically addressing her description of the instrument.
“What do we think is used when an abortion is performed?” she asked. “What kind of device goes in and snatches a person from the womb, tears it out, and takes that beating heartbeat and kills it?”
While Hines and Wooten said the bill holds women responsible for an unwanted pregnancy while letting men off the hook, Martinson stressed it should be the woman’s responsibility.
“Sometimes it’s rape, but most of the time, it’s not,” she said. “We’re the ones who remove our pants, are we not?“We are the ones who allow ourselves to be vulnerable to a pregnancy,” she said.
BITCH.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:25:03pm |
re: #59 gehazi
I see your point. However let him defend himself. He is a voluntary member of the Caveman Party. He didn’t veto the law. He is a responsible party. So let him stand up and say that he didn’t mean it that way but another way.
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sizzzzlerz Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:25:23pm |
Any woman who continues to vote for any of these turds is either mentally deranged or is a fundie xtian talibanist. Even if it doesn’t affect you personally, I’m sure you’ve got daughters, granddaughters, nieces, etc.. By enabling these creeps, you’ve basically doomed them with the loss of control over their own bodies by a group of white, old, men.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:26:15pm |
re: #63 Kragar
Mississippi Republicans Push to Mandate Transvaginal Ultrasounds, Renew Personhood Amendment Fight
BITCH.
History has traditionally taken a rather dim view of collaborators.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:26:19pm |
re: #54 My Name is Muerte!
‘Abortion is just another form of contraception.’
I’ve actually heard that stated.
Unfortunately, I’ve known at least 2 women who did use it as such. 5 and 6 abortions respectively. College Graduates.
why, youth, drugs, alcohol and willful stupidity and men who didn’t give a shit, inability to take a pill every day.
needless to say, there were some undiagnosed issues. Needless to say those fetuses were spared, IMHO, a horrible life.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:28:20pm |
re: #65 sizzzzlerz
Any woman who continues to vote for any of these turds is either mentally deranged or is a fundie xtian talibanist. Even if it doesn’t affect you personally, I’m sure you’ve got daughters, granddaughters, nieces, etc.. By enabling these creeps, you’ve basically doomed them with the loss of control over their own bodies by a group of white, old, men.
These women have no concept of real life.
I have one family member who regularly works for the Pro-Life movement, since retirement has made it her vocation. The idea of having sex with anyone but her husband is so absurd to her she can’t imagine or even see reality.
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gehazi Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:28:52pm |
re: #62 Obdicut
I”m sorry, I really don’t get your point. His actual words are lying.
I feel like this was mostly hashed out after that comment, but his actual words: “I don’t know how you *make* someone watch [the monitor], you can just close your eyes.” aren’t false. Disingenuous, lazy, and side-stepping? Yes. But not a lie.
I feel that’s an important distinction to make, in a political landscape of lie upon lie. I don’t defend him, don’t like his words, don’t like his support for this bill; but can’t we be precise in what we accuse him of?
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:29:01pm |
re: #60 Kragar
Seems to me if you were really anti-abortion, you would be backing better sex education and access to birth control so fewer women would need abortions, rather than hiding the truth and then punishing women who get pregnant.
No, becasue these people are against sex outside marriage. Period.
And they are not against Planned Parenthood with capital letters, they are against the very concept of planning parenthood in the first place.
That is why those who stray from the straight an narrow must be shamed and punished.
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Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:30:34pm |
re: #69 gehazi
I feel like this was mostly hashed out after that comment, but his actual words: “I don’t know how you *make* someone watch [the monitor], you can just close your eyes.” aren’t false. Disingenuous, lazy, and side-stepping? Yes. But not a lie.
The lie comes immediately after those:
I’m not making anybody watch, OK. Because you just have to close your eyes. As long as it’s on the exterior and not the interior.
But it’s not on the exterior and not on the interior. So you can’t just close your eyes.
And also, the bill requires the fetus to be described. So you can’t just close your eyes.
So yes, he is lying.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:31:14pm |
re: #70 Ministry of Fairness and Balance
No, becasue these people are against sex outside marriage. Period.
And they are not against Planned parenthood with capital letters, they are against the very concept of planning parenthood in the first place.
That is why those who stray from the straight an narrow must be shamed and punished.
To them, planning parenthood means GETTING MARRIED. No concept that even married women can severely damage their health and the health of the fetus if they do not space their pregnancies.
A baby a year will kill a women.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:31:34pm |
I see the wingnuts are running around in frantic circles again, about a 1990 interview with Obama in which he says, “Hopefully, more and more people will begin to feel their story is somehow part of this larger story of how we’re going to reshape America in a way that is less mean-spirited and more generous.”
For the life of me, I can’t figure out why that’s supposed to be so disgusting and outrageous. Is it because Obama suggested America was not perfect in every way just as it was?
How does that make sense? How screwed up does your thinking have to be when a simple, positive statement about making things better is cause for hateful ranting?
— Capt. Rhetorical
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Shvaughn Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:31:47pm |
re: #67 ggt
Unfortunately, I’ve known at least 2 women who did use it as such. 5 and 6 abortions respectively. College Graduates.
Nothing’s wrong with that. Seriously. It’s not society’s place to judge.
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lgffan Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:31:52pm |
Kind of like Indiana University’s Bob Knight talking about rape victims several years ago - “lay back and enjoy it” - IIRC
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engineer cat Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:32:02pm |
“Our goal first is to keep Romney well below 1,000,” Gingrich spokesman R.C. Hammond said an hour before Gingrich addressed a small crowd of disappointed supporters gathered at the Wynfrey Hotel. “It doesn’t have to be 1,000, or 1,050 — it has to be below 1,100.” If Gingrich succeeds, Hammond continued, “This will be the first time in our party in modern politics that we’re going to go to the convention floor.”
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“The reason I keep citing Leonard Wood is because in 1920, Wood goes into the convention as the frontrunner,” Gingrich said. “[Warren G.] Harding goes in as the guy who’s in sixth place, and at the end of ten ballots, Harding is the nominee and Wood is gone.” More than 90 years later, that’s the scenario Gingrich sees as his own path to victory.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:32:49pm |
re: #72 ggt
To them, planning parenthood means GETTING MARRIED. No concept that even married women can severely damage their health and the health of the fetus if they do not space their pregnancies.
A baby a year will kill a women.
Yep, and they believe that contraception in a marriage means just not having sex. That even in marriage, sex is purely for reproductive purposes, and having it for pleasure going against the whole idea of marriage in the first place.
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leftynyc Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:32:53pm |
re: #66 Targetpractice
History has traditionally taken a rather dim view of collaborators.
But when put to a vote Mississippi voted down a “personhood amendment” with 55% voting against. IN MISSISSIPPI.
I hope women across the country strike back so hard in November the pukes will still be hurting in 2016.
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erik_t Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:33:23pm |
re: #73 Charles Johnson
For the life of me, I can’t figure out why that’s supposed to be so disgusting and outrageous.
I quoted this part so I can find it easily for use tomorrow. And Monday. And Tuesday.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:33:49pm |
Oh, Mitt, you poor misguided fool, can your OS not adapt?
Romney wants GOP voters to be more rational
The Mitt Romney campaign would like Republican voters to stop and think like Mitt Romney for a moment: rationally and without getting overly emotional about things. Have voters seriously contemplated the chaos that Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich are promising at the Republican convention in Tampa? These two upstarts are planning a messy delegate fight, full of anger and recriminations, under the bright lights of the Tampa Bay Times Forum and in primetime. The GOP convention is supposed to be four days of purposeful choreography highlighting the array of Republican wonders and Barack Obama’s many shortcomings. What people will see instead is a food fight. Stop it now, before it’s too late!
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:34:24pm |
re: #73 Charles Johnson
“Hopefully, more and more people will begin to feel their story is somehow part of this larger story of how we’re going to reshape America
in a way that is less mean-spirited and more generousinto a secularist, Islamist Socialist hell for white people“
Can’t you read code?
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erik_t Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:34:42pm |
re: #80 Kragar
Oh, Mitt, you poor misguided fool, can your OS not adapt?
Has Romneybot met his userbase?
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Shvaughn Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:34:46pm |
re: #73 Charles Johnson
I see the wingnuts are running around in frantic circles again, about a 1990 interview with Obama in which he says, “Hopefully, more and more people will begin to feel their story is somehow part of this larger story of how we’re going to reshape America in a way that is less mean-spirited and more generous.”
For the life of me, I can’t figure out why that’s supposed to be so disgusting and outrageous.
They are afraid of Hope and Change.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:34:54pm |
re: #74 Shvaughn
Nothing’s wrong with that. Seriously. It’s not society’s place to judge.
Actually, it’s not healthy, and IMHO irresponsible. We are talking about life. I am a mother so I do understand the emotions involved. I lost track of one of my friends, but I know the other had a lot of emotional clean-up to do once she straightened herself out. She had a lot of guilt about the multiple abortions. Made recovery that much more difficult for her.
Contraception is the best choice.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:35:08pm |
re: #80 Kragar
Oh, Mitt, you poor misguided fool, can your OS not adapt?
He wants the GOP to be more rational? Pandering to the less rational parts of the party doesn’t make it more rational, Mitt despite what you want to believe.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:35:12pm |
re: #76 engineer cat
“Our goal first is to keep Romney well below 1,000,” Gingrich spokesman R.C. Hammond said an hour before Gingrich addressed a small crowd of disappointed supporters gathered at the Wynfrey Hotel. “It doesn’t have to be 1,000, or 1,050 — it has to be below 1,100.” If Gingrich succeeds, Hammond continued, “This will be the first time in our party in modern politics that we’re going to go to the convention floor.”
…
“The reason I keep citing Leonard Wood is because in 1920, Wood goes into the convention as the frontrunner,” Gingrich said. “[Warren G.] Harding goes in as the guy who’s in sixth place, and at the end of ten ballots, Harding is the nominee and Wood is gone.” More than 90 years later, that’s the scenario Gingrich sees as his own path to victory.
Yep, that’s his dream at this point, that no matter how badly his ass gets whipped in the primaries, that a brokered convention means he’s still got a chance at the brass ring. It’s no doubt why Paul is still in it as well, as he feels that his success in the straw polls means he can convince enough of those delegates to put him on the ticket.
It truly is the most dysfunctional primary season I have ever witnessed.
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gehazi Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:35:23pm |
re: #71 Obdicut
This feels like pointless semantical jousting. He’s misrepresenting the nature of the bill, and should have been called on such by the reporter but is careful to speak in conditionals and not in specific terms of the bill, probably so that he can claim his exact words were not false.
I’ll call it deceptive as hell, but not outright false. If you want to call that a lie, fine.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:35:27pm |
re: #77 Targetpractice
Yep, and they believe that contraception in a marriage means just not having sex. That even in marriage, sex is purely for reproductive purposes, and having it for pleasure going against the whole idea of marriage in the first place.
B, b, but I thought the whole reason men got married is so they could have sex legally and morally?
/gah
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Kragar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:35:46pm |
re: #82 erik_t
Has Romneybot met his userbase?
“Mitt, you do realize you’re dealing with teabaggers and evangelicals, right?”
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Shvaughn Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:36:01pm |
re: #84 ggt
Actually, it’s not healthy, and IMHO irresponsible.
It’s one easy step from “this person has had too many abortions” to Republican-style slut shaming. How many abortions are too many?
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gehazi Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:37:01pm |
re: #85 HappyWarrior
He wants the GOP to be more rational? Pandering to the less rational parts of the party doesn’t make it more rational, Mitt despite what you want to believe.
It sounds like the kind of press release that is more likely to backfire among the conservative base and media.
I’ll show him rational!1!
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:37:32pm |
re: #67 ggt
Unfortunately, I’ve known at least 2 women who did use it as such. 5 and 6 abortions respectively. College Graduates.
That was also the case in Soviet Russia. Do not know how things have changed since.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:38:15pm |
re: #73 Charles Johnson
I see the wingnuts are running around in frantic circles again, about a 1990 interview with Obama in which he says, “Hopefully, more and more people will begin to feel their story is somehow part of this larger story of how we’re going to reshape America in a way that is less mean-spirited and more generous.”
For the life of me, I can’t figure out why that’s supposed to be so disgusting and outrageous. Is it because Obama suggested America was not perfect in every way just as it was?
How does that make sense? How screwed up does your thinking have to be when a simple, positive statement about making things better is cause for hateful ranting?
— Capt. Rhetorical
Always outraged about something. Remember these are people who claim it’s left wing indoctrination to teach kids less than savory parts of our history. It is what is and we can and have learned from our mistakes but we have a ways to go unfortunately.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:38:20pm |
re: #4 Freeze Peach
That’s what a rapist might say to his victim.
Texas Candidate’s Comment About Rape Causes a Furor (March 1990)
The Republican gubernatorial nominee apologized today for an off-the-cuff remark suggesting that some victims of rape should ”relax and enjoy it.”
The candidate, Clayton Williams, had initially played down the remark as being a joke.
Mr. Williams made the remark on Saturday while preparing for a cattle roundup at his West Texas ranch. He compared the cold, foggy weather spoiling the event to a rape, telling ranch hands, campaign workers and reporters around a campfire, ”If it’s inevitable, just relax and enjoy it.”
Later on Saturday, Mr. Williams said it was merely a joke and apologized ”if anyone’s offended.”
”That’s not a Republican women’s club that we were having this morning,” he said. ”It’s a working cow camp, a tough world where you can get kicked in the testicles if you’re not careful.”
Asked if some people might be offended, Mr. Williams said: ”I’m not going to give you a serious answer. It wasn’t a serious deal. It wasn’t a serious statement.”
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gehazi Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:38:43pm |
re: #84 ggt
Actually, it’s not healthy, and IMHO irresponsible. We are talking about life. I am a mother so I do understand the emotions involved. I lost track of one of my friends, but I know the other had a lot of emotional clean-up to do once she straightened herself out. She had a lot of guilt about the multiple abortions. Made recovery that much more difficult for her.
Contraception is the best choice.
Whether it’s “not healthy” or not, plenty of unhealthy things are perfectly legal. Like Twilight.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:38:57pm |
re: #90 Shvaughn
It’s one easy step from “this person has had too many abortions” to Republican-style slut shaming. How many abortions are too many?
Well, we’d have to call a psychologist in for that one. It would vary with the individual.
I’ve talked with several women about their experiences. It seems to be a time factor. I knew a couple that had one abortion as a young women and then had an oops pregnancy and abortion in their late 40’s. They didn’t seem to harbor any guilt, some regret, but no real psychological damage.
It’s the serial abortions that seem to add to psychic pain for the woman.
The only answer I have is Education and Contraception. It is an Individiual Choice.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:38:58pm |
re: #80 Kragar
Oh, Mitt, you poor misguided fool, can your OS not adapt?
Translation: “Drop out, you assholes, so I still have some money left this fall to fight Obama with!”
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Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:39:00pm |
re: #87 gehazi
This feels like pointless semantical jousting.
Well, that’s nice.
He’s misrepresenting the nature of the bill, and should have been called on such by the reporter but is careful to speak in conditionals and not in specific terms of the bill, probably so that he can claim his exact words were not false.
Who cares?
I’ll call it deceptive as hell, but not outright false. If you want to call that a lie, fine.
Yes, I call things that are intentionally deceptive lies. It doesn’t matter if it’s literally true. If you ask someone “Did you see who took my wallet?” and they say “No, I didn’t” because they had their eyes covered, but they know who took it, they’re lying. They know what you mean. It’s actually worse than just a flat-out lie in my book.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:39:52pm |
Romney: Love me, please, I’ll be your best friend, I’ll even lower your taxes.
The man is a walking desperation machine.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:40:07pm |
re: #80 Kragar
Oh, Mitt, you poor misguided fool, can your OS not adapt?
Why does he want them to quit the GOP?
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:40:19pm |
re: #95 gehazi
Whether it’s “not healthy” or not, plenty of unhealthy things are perfectly legal. Like Twilight.
exactly.
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Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:40:26pm |
re: #84 ggt
I don’t think anyone’s arguing that it’s not, but that it’s really none of anyone else’s business, except those who love and care for her, of course.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:40:33pm |
re: #94 Pope Ron Polyp XXXVII
Yeah, because when weather spoils an event, a good natured rape joke always brightens everybody up.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:41:17pm |
re: #100 Ministry of Fairness and Balance
Why does he want them to quit the GOP?
That’s kinda the irony of it all, that the rational folks already abandoned the party years ago. The only ones left are the loons, and they’re spoiling for a fight at the convention.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:42:17pm |
I cannot wait for Obama to beat Romney and end his misery. Maybe then Mitt will find out that being president isn’t everything and he can stop being a patronizing ass.
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gehazi Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:42:38pm |
re: #100 Ministry of Fairness and Balance
It could be a plea for help.
Romney to GOP: “I wish I knew how to quit you!”
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:44:02pm |
re: #102 Obdicut
I don’t think anyone’s arguing that it’s not, but that it’s really none of anyone else’s business, except those who love and care for her, of course.
I’ve actually had people tell me that women don’t get multiple abortions. I am constantly using it as an argument for Comprehensive Sex Eduction and accessible contraception. THAT, think he can legislate. Separation of Church and State my ass.
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jaunte Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:44:17pm |
re: #94 Pope Ron Polyp XXXVII
Clayton Williams’ Cow Camp Etiquette.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:44:57pm |
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Kragar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:45:49pm |
re: #106 gehazi
It could be a plea for help.
Romney to GOP: “I wish I knew how to quit you!”
Romney: “GOP has run into an unexpected error; code 0xe1302; abort, retry, fail?”
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Kragar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:46:35pm |
re: #109 ggt
Rule #1: “Close your Eyes”
Rule 2: Do not talk about Cow Camp Etiquette.
I forget what 3 was.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:48:18pm |
re: #83 Shvaughn
They are afraid of Hope and Change.
Bob Hope and Bing Change in “On the Road to Prosperity”?
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:48:26pm |
re: #112 Kragar
Rule 2: Do not talk about Cow Camp Etiquette.
I forget what 3 was.
Drink lots of alcohol so you will not remember
… and will be compliant?
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darthstar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:52:00pm |
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:56:48pm |
| 118 |
engineer cat Thu, Mar 15, 2012 1:57:42pm |
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:00:10pm |
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Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:11:11pm |
re: #119 Bulworth
There will be a correction in a while, and then the GOP will get to sagely talk about how Obama is dooming us.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:13:30pm |
OT: A new competitor for the daily Captain Obvious award:
Experts Say Attack On Iran Could Mean $6 Per Gallon Gasoline
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:16:22pm |
From Chaucer to Limbaugh: The history of ‘slut’
More than 500 years before Rush Limbaugh called Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke a “slut,” Geoffrey Chaucer used a form of the word to describe an “untidy man” in “The Canterbury Tales.” “Why is thy lord so sluttish, I thee pray, And is of power better clothes to bey,” he wrote in the 14th century poem.
…
According to what linguist Lisa Sutherland told the BBC, the noun “slut” was first used in 1402 by Thomas Hoccleve, in much the same way Chaucer used the related adjective. In his “The Letter of Cupid,” Hoccleve refers to “the foulest slutte in al a town.”In the ensuing centuries, the word came to refer to a lowly kitchen maid – in other words, a synonym for wench. The famous diarist Samuel Pepys notes in 1664 of one of his servant women: “Our little girl Susan is a most admirable slut, and pleases us mightily.” By the 18th century, “slut’s pennies” had become a term to denote the hard dough in poorly-kneaded bread.
Today, the term is uniformly negative, employed to shame women as “bold hussies” in possession of “loose character,” according to the Oxford English Dictionary. Since at least the dawn of modernity, the slew of definitions it has had generally describe women who are “impudent” or “brazen” — simply put, women of loose morals and sexual excess.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:19:12pm |
re: #121 Targetpractice
OT: A new competitor for the daily Captain Obvious award:
Experts Say Attack On Iran Could Mean $6 Per Gallon Gasoline
“The key of course would be the Iranian response,” said Guy Caruso, a senior adviser with the nonpartisan Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Caruso said the “most likely” scenario is an attack against Israel by Hezbollah from bases in Lebanon, which he estimates would have “relatively little” impact on oil prices, perhaps $5-$10 per barrel.
Sabotage against oil facilities in Iraq or Saudi Arabia is a lower probability but would have a bigger effect, said Caruso, who headed the independent federal Energy Information Administration during the George W. Bush administration.
Caruso estimated that such sabotage would send crude oil prices up by $10-$20 per barrel, with a corresponding increase in gasoline prices of 25-50 cents per gallon in the short term.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:20:22pm |
re: #122 Killgore Trout
“Our little girl Susan is a most admirable slut, and pleases us mightily.”
Aww, that’s sweet.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:20:28pm |
re: #123 Killgore Trout
regardless, it will be Obama’s fault
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:21:29pm |
re: #125 Ministry of Fairness and Balance
regardless, it will be Obama’s fault
Indeed. My guess is he’d like to delay any military action until after the election but I’m not sure if the timetable will allow for that.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:25:00pm |
re: #122 Killgore Trout
Aside from the historical definition, a lot of columnists are discussing the modern meaning of the term. Until the sexual revolution of the 60’s, it was generally applied to any girl who had sex outside of marriage.
Then it loosened up to only describe those who had sex outside of a “steady” long-term relationship.
Nowadays, it simply serves to describe one’s disapproval of a woman’s level of sexual activity. It is entirely subjective, and that is what makes it so easy to apply wherever one finds it useful.
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Sionainn Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:27:07pm |
re: #42 Kragar
Remember the good old days when being forced to pay for unnecessary medical procedures was called fraud and malpractice?
You are on a roll today.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:27:22pm |
re: #123 Killgore Trout
Yeah, and the war with Iraq will only take a few months and cost a few hundred million, all paid back by Iraq.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:27:51pm |
re: #126 Killgore Trout
Indeed. My guess is he’d like to delay any military action until after the election but I’m not sure if the timetable will allow for that.
Military action will have a disastrous effect on a lot of things, not just oil prices. Look at the xenophobid and Islamophobic sentiments seething below the surface of American society.
If we find ourselves at war with a Muslim country, the terror threat level will peak, the xeno/Islamophobia level will peak and if there is a major act of terrorist retaliation that can be traced to Muslims, there will be lynch mobs out on the streets…I cannot bear to think about what it could start to look like
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erik_t Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:29:04pm |
re: #129 Targetpractice
Yeah, and the war with Iraq will only take a few months and cost a few hundred million, all paid back by Iraq.
Truly the most pants-on-head idiotic claim out of a huge family of idiotic claims.
Who the hell ever paid to be invaded?
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allegro Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:30:55pm |
re: #131 erik_t
Truly the most pants-on-head idiotic claim out of a huge family of idiotic claims.
Who the hell ever paid to be invaded?
I think we were s’posed to pillage for it. Or something.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:31:38pm |
re: #131 erik_t
Truly the most pants-on-head idiotic claim out of a huge family of idiotic claims.
Who the hell ever paid to be invaded?
It was PC for “spoils of war.”
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jaunte Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:34:20pm |
BREAKING: Zero Casualties Reported in #Obama’s War On Religion: “The Way I Live & Worship Has Been Completely Unaffected,” Says One Citizen
— Everybody Needs It (@TheDailyEdge) March 15, 2012
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Kragar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:34:23pm |
I demand one of these at once!
Silence Gun: Strange weapon of the future immediately quiets you, whether you like it or not
a strange and unsettling new gun being developed by Japanese researchers shoots sound waves in an effort to disrupt and silence anyone who dares speak out of turn.
The gun operates based on the concept of delayed auditory feedback. An attached microphone picks up the sound being made by the target and plays it back 0.2 seconds later. The effect is incredibly confusing to the human brain, making it all but impossible to talk or hold a conversation. The device doesn’t cause the person it’s being used on any physical harm — it simply messes with their head.
When the human brain hears its own speech perfectly in sync during normal speech, it easily processes the input and allows you to largely ignore the sound of your own voice. However, by offsetting the response just a bit, the brain hears your mouth speaking as well as the strange echo effect produced by the gun. This unusual combination is confusing enough to effectively shut down the part of your brain responsible for managing speech, and you fall immediately silent.
The first versions of the weapon — if we can even call it that — were dependent on a separate PC to process the input and relay it back to the speaker. However, the second prototype (pictured above) does away with the need for additional hardware and includes all the necessary processing bits within its casing, making it easily portable.
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Sionainn Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:38:00pm |
re: #90 Shvaughn
It’s one easy step from “this person has had too many abortions” to Republican-style slut shaming. How many abortions are too many?
I don’t think so. I can personally think that someone having multiple abortions is being irresponsible (which I do), but I’m not going around trying to shame anyone or make abortions difficult to get. I spend my time fighting to keep abortion safe and legal, and fighting to ensure easy access to education and contraception for all our young people.
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Sionainn Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:39:50pm |
re: #94 Pope Ron Polyp XXXVII
Texas Candidate’s Comment About Rape Causes a Furor (March 1990)
Who in their right mind would even think something like that is funny?
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jaunte Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:40:29pm |
Here’s what happens when people like Donald Trump raise children:
davidmixner.com
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carlaschluge Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:41:57pm |
re: #137 Sionainn
Ross Perot would think that was funny.
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LWNJ Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:43:58pm |
re: #135 Kragar
I demand one of these at once!
Silence Gun: Strange weapon of the future immediately quiets you, whether you like it or not
I heard about that on wait-wait-don’t-tell-me this weekend. I want one too. But I wonder, once they’re in general circulation, how long it will take us all to adjust to it.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:44:38pm |
re: #130 Ministry of Fairness and Balance
there will be lynch mobs out on the streets…I cannot bear to think about what it could start to look like
uhhh….let’s not get hysterical about this.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:44:56pm |
re: #141 Mercurial
I heard about that on wait-wait-don’t-tell-me this weekend. I want one too. But I wonder, once they’re in general circulation, how long it will take us all to adjust to it.
Mount it on a lapel pin and it could be useful in a debate.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:46:20pm |
re: #135 Kragar
I demand one of these at once!
Silence Gun: Strange weapon of the future immediately quiets you, whether you like it or not
Wish we’d had one of those for the GOP debates, activated the moment the candidate went over their allotted time.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:46:38pm |
re: #126 Killgore Trout
Indeed. My guess is he’d like to delay any military action until after the election but I’m not sure if the timetable will allow for that.
My guess is President Obama would like to avoid military action altogether. The only people stroking their dicks over invading Iran are the ones who have been begging for war with Iran since the beginning.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:46:57pm |
re: #145 darthstar
My guess is President Obama would like to avoid military action altogether. The only people stroking their dicks over invading Iran are the ones who have been begging for war with Iran since the beginning.
And Rick Santorum.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:47:59pm |
re: #142 Killgore Trout
uhhh…let’s not get hysterical about this.
lynch mobs might be overdoing it, but I fear that the latent xenophobia and Islamophobia will provoke acts of retaliation directed against anything these extremists perceive as a threat. And when it comes to anything associated with Islam, their threeshohold is very low.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:48:26pm |
re: #142 Killgore Trout
Are you seeing what is going on in the nation?
Oh right, I remember now. To you the only problem are the tiny number of loony-leftists.
We cannot afford a war with Iran. Our military is exhausted, Iran is a whole lot larger and better equipped than either Iraq or Afghanistan. Just keep the sanctions. The government is having issues, just let the government slide.
And how would we pay for such a war, exactly?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:49:04pm |
re: #145 darthstar
My guess is President Obama would like to avoid military action altogether. The only people stroking their dicks over invading Iran are the ones who have been begging for war with Iran since the beginning.
I’m sure he would but he’s probably aware that diplomacy and sanctions aren’t going to work. To bomb or not to bomb. That is the question.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:50:08pm |
re: #149 Killgore Trout
I’m sure he would but he’s probably aware that diplomacy and sanctions aren’t going to work. To bomb or not to bomb. That is the question.
Not to bomb. Nothing that would come out of it would make us any safer.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:51:37pm |
re: #149 Killgore Trout
I’m sure he would but he’s probably aware that diplomacy and sanctions aren’t going to work. To bomb or not to bomb. That is the question.
Bullshit. Iran hasn’t done anything to provoke an invasion(besides getting up Israel’s ass with some unfriendly rhetoric). In fact, they’ve never, in modern times, initiated an assault on any of their neighbors. The war with Iraq? Saddam Hussein initiated that.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:53:52pm |
re: #150 Targetpractice
Not to bomb. Nothing that would come out of it would make us any safer.
If we bomb, the Republicans can use it in the election: stop the angry black guy from invading other countries.
If we don’t bomb, the Republicans can use it in the election: stop the appeasing black guy from letting our enemies fuck our daughters in the ass.
Either way, it’s fodder for the assholes.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:56:21pm |
re: #94 Pope Ron Polyp XXXVII
Texas Candidate’s Comment About Rape Causes a Furor (March 1990)
I swear I didn’t know about this case when I wrote this.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 15, 2012 2:57:16pm |
re: #152 darthstar
If we bomb, the Republicans can use it in the election: stop the angry black guy from invading other countries.
If we don’t bomb, the Republicans can use it in the election: stop the appeasing black guy from letting our enemies fuck our daughters in the ass.
Either way, it’s fodder for the assholes.
It’s a given that the GOP plays the warmonger in an election year, it’s become their bread and butter. But we’re not talking the regional pariah or basketcase, we’re talking one of the big players. And we’re not looking at a gutted military or a rag-tag militia, we’re talking one of the most powerful and modern militaries in the region. A war with Iran would be long, bloody, and ultimately futile as it would simply galvanize the Iranian people into believing that Iran needs nukes for its protection.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 15, 2012 3:00:26pm |
re: #154 Targetpractice
A war with Iran would be long, bloody, and ultimately futile as it would simply galvanize the Iranian people into believing that Iran needs nukes for its protection.
Yep. The only reason Bush invaded Iraq on his own was because he knew that they were incapable of fighting back…they surrendered all the way to Baghdad and then the eight year guerilla war started.
Iran would fight back…casualties on both sides would be in the tens of thousands. It’s a lose-lose.
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SidewaysQuark Thu, Mar 15, 2012 4:02:03pm |
re: #148 ProGunLiberal
Are you seeing what is going on in the nation?
Oh right, I remember now. To you the only problem are the tiny number of loony-leftists.
We cannot afford a war with Iran. Our military is exhausted, Iran is a whole lot larger and better equipped than either Iraq or Afghanistan. Just keep the sanctions. The government is having issues, just let the government slide.
And how would we pay for such a war, exactly?
We can afford the hell out of a war of Iran, just not an occupation.
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