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Rachel Maddow on Yet Another Right Wing Fake Outrage

The President once said he wants America to become more generous - the horror!
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Would you believe that when I helped launch Pajamas Media, one of the goals was to create a site that would transcend left-right politics, promote environmentalism and science, and allow free discussion of ideas without ideological blinders?

I know, it’s almost impossible to believe, if you look at the pure right wing propaganda that PJ Media constantly churns out these days. The site has turned into World Net Daily Lite — another anti-science, anti-Obama mouthpiece for the Tea Party base, promoting conspiracy theories, climate change denial, and even creationism, and giving a voice to some of the worst liars and racists of the right, people like Robert Stacy McCain.

It’s disappointing to see it, but apparently the money was better on the loony side.

Rachel Maddow highlights one of the totally ridiculous fake outrages that erupted this week, and sure enough, PJ Media was right there helping push it out to the far right base, along with Jim “Dim” Hoft and the rest of the hate-obsessed wingnut blogosphere. Sad.

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277 comments

1 Kragar  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:36:00am

Surely this will lead to immediate calls for impeachment!!!

2 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:38:40am

How dare that Kenyan Muslim force us to be generous! If we want to give only to charities that discriminate against gays, single parents, and whatever other group we personally hate, that's our right!

3 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:40:41am

Love the inclusion of the George H.W. Bush speech. Excellent. Brilliant Maddow!

4 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:41:13am
Would you believe that when I helped launch Pajamas Media, one of the goals was to create a site that would transcend left-right politics, promote environmentalism and science, and allow free discussion of ideas without ideological blinders?

Just the kind of thing I was wondering about this morning! I know you've talked a little bit about it before but what went wrong? Was is an organic problem of certain personalities or cliques took over. Did the financial backers push for a partisan agenda?

5 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:45:51am

Did everybody get a Toyota ad in Spanish? Or is it because the last YouTube video I watched was in Spanish?

Santorums Revenge!

6 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:45:56am

GWB:

As our Founding Fathers worked to develop the framework of our Nation, Abigail Adams wrote to her husband: "I long to hear that you have declared an independency -- and by the way in the new Code of Laws which I suppose it will be necessary for you to make I desire you would Remember the Ladies, and be more generous and favorable to them than your ancestors." An early advocate of women's rights, a farm and financial manager, and the mother of an American President, John Quincy Adams, Abigail Adams is one of many American women who helped establish the strength and vitality of our Nation. During Women's History Month, we recognize the generations of American women whose important contributions continue to shape our Nation and enrich our society.

---

I also appreciate the prayers of many of my fellow Americans. Many times layman and leader alike says, Mr. President, we pray for you, and for that I'm most grateful. It does remind me that I think there's a great awakening in America; people are rediscovering the inspiration of faith in their lives, and the importance of faith in our society. Faith gives our lives dignity, and faith gives our lives direction. Faith makes our nation more just and more generous, and welcoming.

7 Kragar  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:49:49am

re: #5 wrenchwench

Santorums Revenge!

Sounds like a fetish porn series.

8 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:50:11am

re: #4 Killgore Trout

Just the kind of thing I was wondering about this morning! I know you've talked a little bit about it before but what went wrong? Was is an organic problem of certain personalities or cliques took over. Did the financial backers push for a partisan agenda?

I had already resigned before the hard right turn, but the direction was pretty clear even then. One by one, all the people who came in at the start were eliminated, and replaced with ideologues and toadies.

9 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:50:14am

"Kindler, gentler America?" PROOF POSITIVE! THE BUSHES HATE AMERICA!!! GODLESS RINO SHEEP IN WOLVE'S CLOTHING! Greed is good! Mean is God! Down with welfare slackers and science moochers!.....AARRGGH! HELP ME! I'm melttiiinngg!

10 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:51:10am

Going Rogue: An American Life
By Sarah Palin

History has shown us that when we empower ourselves to stand up together, we become an even more blessed and prosperous nation. And we become a more generous nation, too—a nation that has proved for more than two centuries its willingness to share its blessings with others.

11 jaunte  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:54:01am

re: #6 Gus

Why did Abigail Adams hate America?

12 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:55:03am

re: #11 jaunte

Why did Abigail Adams hate America?

Cause she was a damn Commie!
/

13 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:55:03am

re: #11 jaunte

Why did Abigail Adams hate America?

Here's the complete letter:

MARCH 31, 1776
ABIGAIL ADAMS TO JOHN ADAMS

"I long to hear that you have declared an independency. And, by the way, in the new code of laws which I suppose it will be necessary for you to make, I desire you would remember the ladies and be more generous and favorable to them than your ancestors.

"Do not put such unlimited power into the hands of the husbands.

"Remember, all men would be tyrants if they could. If particular care and attention is not paid to the ladies, we are determined to foment a rebellion, and will not hold ourselves bound by any laws in which we have no voice or representation.

"That your sex are naturally tyrannical is a truth so thoroughly established as to admit of no dispute; but such of you as wish to be happy willingly give up -- the harsh tide of master for the more tender and endearing one of friend.

"Why, then, not put it out of the power of the vicious and the lawless to use us with cruelty and indignity with impunity?

"Men of sense in all ages abhor those customs which treat us only as the (servants) of your sex; regard us then as being placed by Providence under your protection, and in imitation of the Supreme Being make use of that power only for our happiness."

14 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:55:31am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I had already resigned before the hard right turn, but the direction was pretty clear even then. One by one, all the people who came in at the start were eliminated, and replaced with ideologues and toadies.

Do you think it was an inevitably doomed project? I have a hard time imagining conservative and liberal bloggers all sharing the same space in today's hyper-partisan political environment. I applaud the goal but maybe it was too impractical.

15 jaunte  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:56:28am

re: #13 Gus

"Remember, all men would be tyrants if they could. If particular care and attention is not paid to the ladies, we are determined to foment a rebellion, and will not hold ourselves bound by any laws in which we have no voice or representation."

Something the present-day GOP forgot.

16 William of Orange  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:57:58am

Also worth watching is the Lewis Black interview that Maddow had after this segment.


Here's the link.

17 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:00:26am

TOWARD A MORE Generous Nation
December 25, 1988|Bruce Sievers | Bruce Sievers is the executive director of the Walter and Elise Haas Fund

SAN FRANCISCO — The "thousand points of light" invoked by Vice President George Bush during the 1988 campaign seemed to suggest an alternative to the heavy hand of government in meeting social needs--a multitude of charitable organizations and partnerships among nonprofits, businesses and the public sector.

There is something beguiling about the image of bright sources of energy, commitment and compassion scattered throughout our social landscape. Most Americans probably share President-elect Bush's enthusiasm for the idea of pluralistic voluntary service, fueled by altruistic contributions, as a way of helping our neighbors. We like the values of freedom, charity and decentralized power it represents. And we like the fact that it works, a symbol of the generous, can-do American spirit...

18 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:04:20am

re: #14 Killgore Trout

Do you think it was an inevitably doomed project? I have a hard time imagining conservative and liberal bloggers all sharing the same space in today's hyper-partisan political environment. I applaud the goal but maybe it was too impractical.

I don't think the backers ever intended to follow through on the plans.

At this point, though, I agree it's not going to happen. Partly as a result of the craziness spread by sites like PJ Media, the right wing has totally lost its mind.

19 Amory Blaine  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:04:34am

Rockin' In The Free World

20 darthstar  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:07:18am

Happy St. Patrick's Day to my Irish brethren. I've got my Jameson's (well, I've always got my Jameson's) and it's one of the rare days I can make corned beef and cabbage for my missus...though the deal on corned beef at the Fresh & Easy (part of Tesco) market in Pacifica (which we refer to as 'Flava-flav' for some reason) is pretty fuckin' good so I'm headed up today to get a couple more to store in the freezer...I think I'll use the pressure cooker tonight...makes for a quick & tender brisket.

Oh, and your complimentary joke at my people's expense.

21 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:07:33am

re: #18 Charles Johnson

I don't think the backers ever intended to follow through on the plans.

At this point, though, I agree it's not going to happen. Partly as a result of the craziness spread by sites like PJ Media, the right wing has totally lost its mind.

Lost it, or had all the bits taken out?
;)

22 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:09:09am

The Virtue of Generosity
DONALD DEMARCO

Generosity inspires gratitude, and gratitude inspires generosity. God is generous to us and our generosity, as St. Paul tells us, “gives proof of our gratitude towards God” (2 Cor. 9:11).

In gratitude we are human; in generosity we are divine: "You received without pay, give without pay" (Mt. 10:8).

An admirer of the great German composer, Johannes Brahms, left him 1,000 pounds in his will. Upon learning about the bequest, Brahms was deeply moved. "It touches me most deeply and intimately," he wrote to a friend. "All exterior honors are nothing in comparison." Then, in the very next sentence, he informed his friend that since he did not need the money, he was "enjoying it in the most agreeable manner, by taking pleasure in its distribution."

...

23 CuriousLurker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:09:22am

re: #14 Killgore Trout

FYI: Late response to you at the end of the last thread downstairs.

Going back to my usual analog Saturday now.

24 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:10:25am

Generosity: Virtue In Civil Society (Hardback) | Cato Institute Store

About the Book

It is often assumed that because the contemporary welfare state is generous, its critics must therefore lack generosity, as well as compassion. Tibor R. Machan, a distinguished moral philosopher, demonstrates why that is a mistaken notion. He places generosity among the human virtues and shows why virtue requires moral choice rather than coercion. He argues that generosity can only be cultivated in freedom because there is no virtue in a compulsory act. This book is a valuable contribution to an important and continuing debate.

25 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:12:32am

re: #23 CuriousLurker

FYI: Late response to you at the end of the last thread downstairs.

Going back to my usual analog Saturday now.

Thanks.

26 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:12:47am

There are many different interpretations of generosity. Many see it as static while most see it as virtue to attain or continually exceed our own standards. Generosity is a virtue and one that must be constantly worked on and maintained. To that end, a young Barrack Obama is reflecting upon a virtue pondered by civilized men for 1000s of years.

27 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:15:49am

Oh geez.

28 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:16:45am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I had already resigned before the hard right turn, but the direction was pretty clear even then. One by one, all the people who came in at the start were eliminated, and replaced with ideologues and toadies.

And yet, those righties are the ones who lash out at you for being The Betrayer. The way they act, one could think they are overcompensating for feelings of guilt.

29 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:19:17am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I had already resigned before the hard right turn, but the direction was pretty clear even then. One by one, all the people who came in at the start were eliminated, and replaced with ideologues and toadies.

Which is the one major advantage they have. They are after power pure and simple. It is very difficult for people who have other goals in mind to oppose them. The 'ideologues and toadies' can usually outflank the good guys because they have no limits on what they're willing to do in order to win power.

It's rather like a war where one side is wiling to use weapons of mass destruction and the other isn't. The extra firepower wins. Of course it leaves a wasteland behind but the winners are cool with that. As long as they have the power they don't care if the world burns.

30 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:20:37am

re: #20 darthstar

Happy St. Pat's day to you..This is a great weekend with March Madness going on and my new GF out of town.. Winston and I are in Basketball party mode here...Next weekend will be the big test..We are going away for the weekend.. This will be tough..Like the commercial with the guy at dinner with his GF watching his smartphone for scores..
Did you just watch the game? um..no..what are you talking about?
LOL

31 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:21:33am

I only ever seem to hear the Right spout off about "generosity" when it's to make one of two points: That America should be loved because we're "so giving," or that items like welfare are "forced generosity" and the Right thinks that wrong because they want to decide how much to give and who to give it to.

32 darthstar  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:23:29am

re: #30 HoosierHoops

Happy St. Pat's day to you..This is a great weekend with March Madness going on and my new GF out of town.. Winston and I are in Basketball party mode here...Next weekend will be the big test..We are going away for the weekend.. This will be tough..Like the commercial with the guy at dinner with his GF watching his smartphone for scores..
Did you just watch the game? um..no..what are you talking about?
LOL

Good to see things are working out for you...Not watching the games won't be an issue...trust me. And if you shout "Le Bron" during sex then you'll need more than an intervention.

33 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:26:03am

re: #31 Targetpractice

I only ever seem to hear the Right spout off about "generosity" when it's to make one of two points: That America should be loved because we're "so giving," or that items like welfare are "forced generosity" and the Right thinks that wrong because they want to decide how much to give and who to give it to.

Limbaugh said [I gotta try again to unsubscribe from his emails] that the Catholic Church turned Lefty because they mistook government spending for charity, when actually it's theft. He didn't use the word 'theft', I think he said 'appropriating' or something.

34 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:30:37am

re: #33 wrenchwench

Limbaugh said [I gotta try again to unsubscribe from his emails] that the Catholic Church turned Lefty because they mistook government spending for charity, when actually it's theft. He didn't use the word 'theft', I think he said 'appropriating' or something.

Yeah, that's another common theme I hear, that the government "steals" money from our paychecks to pay for dead-beats, when that same money would be "better spent" by the various charities.

35 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:35:15am

I predict the next outrageous outrage will be that

Anonymous high-level sources tell wingnutopia.com that Barry Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Charles Manson Noxema Genghis Adonis Osmosis Herbert Tapioca Camacho "Barack" Obama may have brazenly and unapologetically SIGHED in the very same hallowed Oval Office where St. Reagan never had an impure thought, thereby showing his complete and utter contempt for Real America

or something along that line.

36 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:36:16am

re: #35 Pope Ron Polyp XXXVII

I predict the next outrageous outrage will be that

or something along that line.

Awesome avatar is awesome.

37 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:37:30am

re: #35 Pope Ron Polyp XXXVII

I predict the next outrageous outrage will be that

or something along that line.

Perfect, except I'd strike the 'un' from 'unapologetically'.

38 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:38:48am

Obama's War On Women

39 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:39:28am

SAN DIEGO TEA PARTY LEADER ARRESTED FOR KIDNAPPING, RAPE

March 17, 2012 (Lemon Grove)—Lemon Grove resident Michael John Kobulnicky, 50, a leader in the San Diego Tea Party and former regional director of the Southern California Conservative Party, is under arrest for allegedly kidnapping and raping a local woman on Fiesta Island.

“He dragged her out of the car and sexually assaulted her pretty brutally,” San Diego Police Lt. Andra Brown told ECM news partner 10 News in late February, shortly after the February 25 assault occurred.

On his website, [Link: www.michaelkobulnickyusa.com,...] Kobulnicky lists his leadership roles as “currently the co-organizer and public relations representative for the San Diego Tea Party.”

...

According to his website, Kobulnicky supports Christian values, is a father of five sons, and is co-founder and president of the National Council of Americans, Inc, a nonprofit that helps youths.

...

40 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:40:05am
41 darthstar  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:40:50am

re: #39 Gus

SAN DIEGO TEA PARTY LEADER ARRESTED FOR KIDNAPPING, RAPE

Somehow, this is Occupy's fault.

42 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:40:51am

re: #39 Gus

Obviously a lieberal plant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

44 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:41:22am

re: #32 darthstar

Good to see things are working out for you...Not watching the games won't be an issue...trust me. And if you shout "Le Bron" during sex then you'll need more than an intervention.

She is awesome and the phrase the luckiest guy in the world is over used..But not this time..She likes sports and we now play golf about once a week..So far we are perfect for each other yet not once have we chatted about politics..I'm not sure if I'm Dating a red haired Ann Coulter but I get the feeling she doesn't care that much about politics...
Last Tuesday we went out to the Mont after work and as we sat outside with the full moon I so wanted to ask her..So did you vote today? It is the only subject we haven't broached..politics..

45 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:41:46am

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Obama's War On Women

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That may be the single dumbest political video I've ever seen.

Bill Maher uses sexist language, so Obama is waging a "war on women?" What. The. Fuck.

This is the kind of crapthink reversal bullshit that the right specializes in. And it doesn't fool anyone except other wingnuts. The only purpose of this kind of shit is to keep the base enraged.

46 Amory Blaine  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:43:05am
47 darthstar  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:44:08am
After Kobulnicky’s arrest, the San Diego Tea Party issued a statement indicating that Kobulnicky took leave the group in January for personal reasons and had not been in touch since then, the San Diego Union-Tribune reports. He has been removed from his position while the legal process runs its course, the statement said

We haven't seen him in weeks! But just in case he doesn't get convicted, we'll hold is spot for him.

48 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:44:51am

re: #45 Charles Johnson

That may be the single dumbest political video I've ever seen.

Bill Maher uses sexist language, so Obama is waging a "war on women?" What. The. Fuck.

This is the kind of crapthink reversal bullshit that the right specializes in. And it doesn't fool anyone except other wingnuts. The only purpose of this kind of shit is to keep the base enraged.

My guess is it's a web only production for right wing blogs. I doubt they're buying airtime on tv for that one.

49 Interesting Times  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:44:51am

re: #29 Romantic Heretic

It's rather like a war where one side is wiling to use weapons of mass destruction and the other isn't. The extra firepower wins. Of course it leaves a wasteland behind but the winners are cool with that. As long as they have the power they don't care if the world burns.

What's the most effective way to defeat such scorched-earth tactics? Serious question.

50 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:46:08am

re: #49 Interesting Times

What's the most effective way to defeat such scorched-earth tactics? Serious question.

Scorch the earth first before the other side does. That way it;ll really bum them out that they got nothing to burn.
/

51 darthstar  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:46:32am

re: #48 Killgore Trout

My guess is it's a web only production for right wing blogs. I doubt they're buying airtime on tv for that one.

They don't need to buy air time...they've got useful idiots who will promote it on the web for them.

52 jaunte  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:47:02am

The creator of energy drink Krathing Daeng (Red Bull) has died:
[Link: www.chron.com...]

53 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:47:21am

We have certainly been quite generous to financial institutions needing bailouts.

I don't know what the problem is.

54 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:48:53am
55 bratwurst  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:48:55am

re: #51 darthstar

They don't need to buy air time...they've got useful idiots who will promote it on the web for them.

Including a few right here.

56 Amory Blaine  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:49:30am

re: #53 Ojoe

It is puzzling.

57 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:50:41am

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Obama's War On Women

[Embedded content]

How did I know, before I even opened the video, that it was gonna be largely about Maher and his comments. It actually would have surprised me if they'd pointed out that Obama cannot legally order the SuperPAC to give back the money or have any control over what it does, but I guess that's what we've come to expect from the Right, capitalizing on the public's ignorance on subjects to drum up "outrages."

58 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:53:00am

re: #57 Targetpractice

Many people watch these super PAC commercials, and if you back up and look at the really big picture, the problem with politics is the credulity and pettiness of people in general.

59 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:53:08am

I've never seen Obama apologize to Maher like I've seen many a R do to Limbaugh.
Apples and starships.

60 Interesting Times  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:53:08am

Looks like the "Stop Kony 2012" account got hacked:

That tweet showed up in my feed previously as coming from them, and now the hacker's changed the Twitter account name.

61 dragonfire1981  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:53:28am
Would you believe that when I helped launch Pajamas Media, one of the goals was to create a site that would transcend left-right politics, promote environmentalism and science, and allow free discussion of ideas without ideological blinders?

I would say Charles you accomplished that goal...you just did by way of what LGF would eventually become. I would say since your split from the Right this site has become one of the best spots for political discussion on the web. Period.

What I love about LGF is that we don't shoot right wing ideas out of the box without due diligence here, we simply acts for facts and sources to back up whatever might be said.

If a right wing site posted a video of Obama saying he isn't really that fond of white people AND the video was unedited/uncut AND they had multiple, factual, verifiable sources, it would no doubt be a huge news story here.

The thing is most right wing "outrages" have no or little basis in fact, hence why those who show up here parroting them get sent packing quickly after us Lizards ask for decent sources and none are forthcoming.

62 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:54:39am

Or run policy by him first...

63 Amory Blaine  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:55:17am

Maher has paid a price for how he speaks also in the past, unlike Limbaugh.

64 Stanghazi  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:55:21am

re: #39 Gus

WTF is going on down here?

65 darthstar  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:55:28am

re: #59 Varek Raith

I've never seen Obama apologize to Maher like I've seen many a R do to Limbaugh.
Apples and starships.

Bill Maher is the Rev. Wright of 2012...until they can find someone else who might make a good poster child for the evils of the black guy who happens to be President.

66 Amory Blaine  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:55:58am

re: #63 Amory Blaine

Ooops I forgot about the football gig. My bad.

67 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:56:34am

re: #63 Amory Blaine

Maher has paid a price for how he speaks also in the past, unlike Limbaugh.

Yep, it's why he's on HBO these days, because it's the only place he can talk as he likes without worrying that the advertisers will boycott him in response to howls of outrage.

68 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:56:46am

Shit
Piss
Fuck
****
Cocksucker
Motherfucker
Tits

George Carlin. 1972. Had this Limbaugh thing been going on then these same wingers would have used George Carlin as their magical balance fairy.

69 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:57:33am

re: #68 Gus

Shit
Piss
Fuck
****
Cocksucker
Motherfucker
Tits

George Carlin. 1972. Had this Limbaugh thing been going on then these same wingers would have used George Carlin as their magical balance fairy.

They wouldn't know whom they were fucking with if they did.
XD

70 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:57:59am

re: #68 Gus

Why tits should be on the list I cannot figure.

71 Amory Blaine  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:58:49am

re: #70 Ojoe

They should be on every list. At the top.

72 jaunte  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:58:49am

re: #70 Ojoe

Fear of women has been around for some time.

73 darthstar  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:59:20am

re: #70 Ojoe

Why tits should be on the list I cannot figure.

re: #71 Amory Blaine

They should be on every list. At the top.

That's exactly what I was about to say. Yay tits!

74 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 11:59:23am

re: #72 jaunte

Fear of women has been around for some time.

Their loss.
...
BOOBIES!

75 Kragar  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:00:01pm

re: #68 Gus

Shit
Piss
Fuck
****
Cocksucker
Motherfucker
Tits

George Carlin. 1972. Had this Limbaugh thing been going on then these same wingers would have used George Carlin as their magical balance fairy.

NSFW

76 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:00:19pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Obama's War On Women

[Embedded content]

Stupid video.

77 bratwurst  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:00:32pm

Ready to be horrified?

The Washington Post reports that Richard Land, a longtime leader of the Southern Baptist Convention, suggests Romney could win over recalcitrant conservatives by picking:

Santorum as attorney general, Gingrich as ambassador to the United Nations and John Bolton as secretary of state.

78 Interesting Times  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:01:16pm

re: #77 bratwurst

Ready to be horrified?

The Washington Post reports that Richard Land, a longtime leader of the Southern Baptist Convention, suggests Romney could win over recalcitrant conservatives by picking:

Santorum as attorney general, Gingrich as ambassador to the United Nations and John Bolton as secretary of state.

And Pam Geller as press secretary.

79 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:01:31pm

re: #77 bratwurst

Ready to be horrified?

The Washington Post reports that Richard Land, a longtime leader of the Southern Baptist Convention, suggests Romney could win over recalcitrant conservatives by picking:

Santorum as attorney general, Gingrich as ambassador to the United Nations and John Bolton as secretary of state.

Laughing...too hard....can't...breathe...*thud*

80 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:01:53pm

I nominate Harpo Marx for ambassador to the UN.

BBL

81 dragonfire1981  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:02:42pm

re: #77 bratwurst

Ready to be horrified?

The Washington Post reports that Richard Land, a longtime leader of the Southern Baptist Convention, suggests Romney could win over recalcitrant conservatives by picking:

Santorum as attorney general, Gingrich as ambassador to the United Nations and John Bolton as secretary of state.

I actually thought of a complete nightmare scenario where Romney wins the nomination and is actually STUPID enough to choose Sarah Palin as a running mate. Yes, REALLY.

82 Amory Blaine  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:02:54pm

John Bolton plays Lorax in the Broadway musical.

83 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:04:20pm

re: #77 bratwurst

Ready to be horrified?

The Washington Post reports that Richard Land, a longtime leader of the Southern Baptist Convention, suggests Romney could win over recalcitrant conservatives by picking:

Santorum as attorney general, Gingrich as ambassador to the United Nations and John Bolton as secretary of state.

I would prefer three people randomly selected from the Las Vegas phone directory. That way, we would have at least some chance of having a decent human being in one of these offices.

84 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:04:42pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Obama's War On Women

[Embedded content]

You can't possibly believe that crap...
Can you?

85 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:06:13pm

re: #75 Kragar

NSFW

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George Carlins 200 - Dirty Words

NSFW ;)

86 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:07:29pm

re: #84 Varek Raith

You can't possibly believe that crap...
Can you?

I don't. Just another example of faux outrage. There's a lot of it about.

87 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:08:01pm

re: #77 bratwurst

Ready to be horrified?

The Washington Post reports that Richard Land, a longtime leader of the Southern Baptist Convention, suggests Romney could win over recalcitrant conservatives by picking:

Santorum as attorney general, Gingrich as ambassador to the United Nations and John Bolton as secretary of state.

Seriously, who else on this "dream team"?

Sarah Palin as Secretary of Energy?
Donald Trump as Secretary of the Treasury?
Alan West as Secretary of Defense?
Charles Koch as Secretary of the Interior?
Scott Walker as Secretary of Labor?
Rick Scott as Secretary of Health and Human Services?

88 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:08:40pm

re: #86 Killgore Trout

I don't. Just another example of faux outrage. There's a lot of it about.

For sure. Especially the faux outrage about Occupy Wall Street.

89 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:10:15pm

re: #88 Gus

For sure. Especially the faux outrage about Occupy Wall Street.

Fart Free Zone.

90 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:11:31pm

re: #77 bratwurst

Ready to be horrified?

The Washington Post reports that Richard Land, a longtime leader of the Southern Baptist Convention, suggests Romney could win over recalcitrant conservatives by picking:

Santorum as attorney general, Gingrich as ambassador to the United Nations and John Bolton as secretary of state.

This is predicated on Romney actually being the conservative candidate they were looking for?

91 Shvaughn  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:11:56pm

re: #88 Gus

For sure. Especially the faux outrage about Occupy Wall Street.

Now you're just picking on him.

92 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:12:29pm

re: #91 Shvaughn

Now you're just picking on him.

What do you mean? How?

//

93 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:12:44pm

re: #88 Gus

For sure. Especially the faux outrage about Occupy Wall Street.

Exactly. Just like it's an outrageous outrage that a Tea Partier got arrested for rape. It's sad when people only care about a rape because of the political leanings of the rapist.

94 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:13:00pm

Beating the bishop???

Lol.

95 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:14:41pm

re: #32 darthstar

Good to see things are working out for you...Not watching the games won't be an issue...trust me. And if you shout "Le Bron" during sex then you'll need more than an intervention.

Thought that was "Kobe!"

/I blame Dave Chappelle

96 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:15:04pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

Seriously, who else on this "dream team"?

Sarah Palin as Secretary of Energy?
Donald Trump as Secretary of the Treasury?
Alan West as Secretary of Defense?
Charles Koch as Secretary of the Interior?
Scott Walker as Secretary of Labor?
Rick Scott as Secretary of Health and Human Services?

Rick Perry as Secretary of Not Doing Shit

97 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:16:05pm

It's also the same issue with Maher and Limbaugh. Sure they aren't perfectly analogous but the one key difference determining the outrage is their political affiliation. Nobody really gives a shit about "elevating the discourse" or free speech issues. It's all just phony partisan outrage.

98 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:16:25pm

re: #96 Pope Ron Polyp XXXVII

Rick Perry as Secretary of Not Doing Shit

Secretary of Christian Education and Personal Grooming.

99 allegro  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:18:49pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

It's also the same issue with Maher and Limbaugh. Sure they aren't perfectly analogous but the one key difference determining the outrage is their political affiliation. Nobody really gives a shit about "elevating the discourse" or free speech issues. It's all just phony partisan outrage.

They aren't even remotely analogous.

100 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:18:57pm

re: #94 Varek Raith

Beating the bishop???

Lol.

Yodeling in the valley!

101 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:22:45pm

re: #93 Killgore Trout

Exactly. Just like it's an outrageous outrage that a Tea Partier got arrested for rape. It's sad when people only care about a rape because of the political leanings of the rapist.

Really?

102 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:23:27pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

It's also the same issue with Maher and Limbaugh. Sure they aren't perfectly analogous but the one key difference determining the outrage is their political affiliation. Nobody really gives a shit about "elevating the discourse" or free speech issues. It's all just phony partisan outrage.

Perhaps because nobody sees it as a "free speech issue" except for those trying to cover for Limbaugh.

103 Lidane  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:24:33pm

re: #93 Killgore Trout

It's sad when people only care about a rape because of the political leanings of the rapist.

Your lack of self-awareness in even saying this is hilarious, given your obsession with OWS.

104 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:26:00pm

re: #99 allegro

They aren't even remotely analogous.

Of course not. I know how the system works.

105 engineer cat  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:27:58pm

he hates you

must have been certified as a Potent Wingnut Meme by frank luntz since even pope ricky was pushing it hard a few weeks back

106 allegro  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:28:07pm

re: #104 Killgore Trout

Of course not. I know how the system works.

?

107 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:28:32pm

re: #103 Lidane

Your lack of self-awareness in even saying this is hilarious, given your obsession with OWS.

Yet I seem to be the only one with the ability to condemn something as universally reprehensible as rape regardless of the political affiliation of the rapist.

108 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:30:35pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Yet I seem to be the only one with the ability to condemn something as universally reprehensible as rape regardless of the political affiliation of the rapist.

I either heard a Bronx cheer or a whole roomful of people laughing.

109 engineer cat  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:30:59pm

he hates you

and somebody please ask the Magical Balance Fairy for me when have democratic politicians ever gone around saying things like this?

110 Achilles Tang  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:33:20pm

re: #10 Gus

Going Rogue: An American Life
By Sarah Palin

History has shown us that when we empower ourselves to stand up together, we become an even more blessed and prosperous nation.

This first sentence is even more telling about her cognitive dissonance. Where does "stand up together" fit with GOP philosophy? Perhaps she meant, "when we job creators (self defined) stand up together".

111 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:33:43pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Yet I seem to be the only one with the ability to condemn something as universally reprehensible as rape regardless of the political affiliation of the rapist.

This shit got old months ago, KT. Our refusal to join you on your crusade against OWS is not itself an approval of the dead horse you kept whaling at long after the rest of us stopped giving a shit.

112 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:34:25pm

re: #93 Killgore Trout

Exactly. Just like it's an outrageous outrage that a Tea Partier got arrested for rape. It's sad when people only care about a rape because of the political leanings of the rapist.

Image: irony-meter-exploded.jpg

113 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:36:18pm

re: #110 Blue Spot Vlamingii Tang

This first sentence is even more telling about her cognitive dissonance. Where does "stand up together" fit with GOP philosophy? Perhaps she meant, "when we job creators (self defined) stand up together".

What Sarah Palin said:

"When we empower ourselves and work together as a collective we become an even more blessed, prosperous and generous nation."

//

114 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:36:51pm

re: #113 Gus

What Sarah Palin said:

"When we empower ourselves and work together as a collective we become an even more blessed, prosperous and generous nation."

//

Word Salad of Borg.

115 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:36:56pm

re: #112 Varek Raith

Image: irony-meter-exploded.jpg

I thought I smelled gas.

116 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:38:59pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Come on man, that's way beneath you.
You know damn well you never would've posted those stories if 'OWS' wasn't in the headline.
Proof being that you stopped once OWS died.
;)

117 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:39:28pm

re: #93 Killgore Trout

Exactly. Just like it's an outrageous outrage that a Tea Partier got arrested for rape. It's sad when people only care about a rape because of the political leanings of the rapist.

re: #103 Lidane

Your lack of self-awareness in even saying this is hilarious, given your obsession with OWS.

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Yet I seem to be the only one with the ability to condemn something as universally reprehensible as rape regardless of the political affiliation of the rapist.

Bullshit, KT...it's been pretty damn transparent to most everyone here that the ONLY reason that you brought up ANY reports of criminal activity at Occupy events (or that were done by anyone even remotely associated with Occupy) was to beat people over the head with it.

Whenever someone points out that shit happens in large groups or organizations, no matter the political affiliations involved, you made it clear that this was apparently an affliction that only affects "left-wing" Occupy and no one else. When given an example that RWNJs are not immune, you do your best Baghdad Bob impression.

118 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:40:28pm

re: #117 talon_262

re: #103 Lidane

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Bullshit, KT...it's been pretty damn transparent to most everyone here that the ONLY reason that you brought up ANY reports of criminal activity at Occupy events (or that were done by anyone even remotely associated with Occupy) was to beat people over the head with it.

Whenever someone points out that shit happens in large groups or organizations, no matter the political affiliations involved, you made it clear that this was apparently an affliction that only affects "left-wing" Occupy and no one else. When given an example that RWNJs are not immune, you do your best Baghdad Bob impression.

"Our initial assessment is that they will all die"

119 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:41:32pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Yet I seem to be the only one with the ability to condemn something as universally reprehensible as rape regardless of the political affiliation of the rapist.

Killgore. I've heard more "rapey/staby" stories from you within the political context of OWS then I have fingers on my hands. Suddenly when it's reported that a Tea Party member has been arrested for rape/kidnapping you turn around and say, in effect, "all you people just bring up these rape stories because of the political side of the perpetrator."

120 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:42:44pm

KT!

STOP DESTROYING MY IRONY METERS!

THEY AIN'T CHEAP!!!

121 engineer cat  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:44:37pm

Synchronization of Entity Bean

the heartrending story of a sensitive young java component and her tragic encounter with a charming but heartless high volume server process

122 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:44:49pm

Feliz Dia de San Patricio

123 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:45:35pm

re: #119 Gus

Killgore. I've heard more "rapey/staby" stories from you within the political context of OWS then I have fingers on my hand. Suddenly when it's reported that a Tea Party member has been arrested for rape/kidnapping you turn around and say, in effect, "all you people just bring up these rape stories because of the political side of the perpetrator."

Yeah, that's pretty much it in a nutshell.

124 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:46:58pm

re: #119 Gus

Killgore. I've heard more "rapey/staby" stories from you within the political context of OWS then I have fingers on my hands. Suddenly when it's reported that a Tea Party member has been arrested for rape/kidnapping you turn around and say, in effect, "all you people just bring up these rape stories because of the political side of the perpetrator."

Yes, because it's obvious selective outrage. I kept on the OWS thing because security issues and violence in the camps was a serious and endemic problem and a sign that it was an unhealthy and careless political movement. Just like I pounded the Tea Party for violent rhetoric and radicalism.
What became glaringly obvious was that people only cared about the nasty elements of the other movement. When their side had problems they needed to be defended no matter how reprehensible.

125 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:49:34pm

re: #124 Killgore Trout

Yes, because it's obvious selective outrage. I kept on the OWS thing because security issues and violence in the camps was a serious and endemic problem and a sign that it was an unhealthy and careless political movement. Just like I pounded the Tea Party for violent rhetoric and radicalism.
What became glaringly obvious was that people only cared about the nasty elements of the other movement. When their side had problems they needed to be defended no matter how reprehensible.

4/10 for effort.

126 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:50:21pm

My selective outrage hypothesis can stand up to the scientific method and predict future results. The next outrage that sweeps the political landscape (be it a rape or someone is called a ****) I can tell who is going to be outraged and who is going to make excuses simply by looking at the political affiliation of of the perpetrator. It's the only piece of information needed.

127 Shvaughn  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:51:56pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

My selective outrage hypothesis can stand up to the scientific method and predict future results. The next outrage that sweeps the political landscape (be it a rape or someone is called a ****) I can tell who is going to be outraged and who is going to make excuses simply by looking at the political affiliation of of the perpetrator. It's the only piece of information needed.

I can tell you who is going to be outraged next time there's an OWS outrage.

128 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:54:21pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

My selective outrage hypothesis can stand up to the scientific method and predict future results. The next outrage that sweeps the political landscape (be it a rape or someone is called a ****) I can tell who is going to be outraged and who is going to make excuses simply by looking at the political affiliation of of the perpetrator. It's the only piece of information needed.

Trust fund Marxists?

129 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:55:29pm

Celebrating the pepper spraying of old ladies?
Of people who did nothing wrong?
Accusing any who support OWS of supporting rape?


It's the only piece of information needed.

130 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:56:19pm

re: #127 Shvaughn

I can tell you who is going to be outraged next time there's an OWS outrage.

Yes, because I have the ability to universally condemn things like rape or political violence regardless of the political affiliation of the perpetrators.
Just like I can universally support free speech regardless of the speaker. I think it's a shame that more people can't do the same.

131 Lidane  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:57:26pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Yes. Because you're the perfect, morally pure arbiter of all that is good and right in the world. You're the one who has perfect principles in every way, and the rest of us can't compete.

You've got a lot of nerve to suggest that people here don't condemn rape.

132 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:57:45pm

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Yes, because I have the ability to universally condemn things like rape or political violence regardless of the political affiliation of the perpetrators.
Just like I can universally support free speech regardless of the speaker. I think it's a shame that more people can't do the same.

Personally, I consider it a shame that you either A) can't lie worth a damn or B) truly believe your own bullshit.

133 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:58:14pm

Lol.
Like we don't see through the charade.
XD

134 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:58:30pm

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Yes, because I have the ability to universally condemn things like rape or political violence regardless of the political affiliation of the perpetrators.
Just like I can universally support free speech regardless of the speaker. I think it's a shame that more people can't do the same.

You have rather high opinion of yourself. That's quite admirable. We should as strive to be as perfect as you so clearly state.

//

135 TheSwedish  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:59:07pm

"Would you believe that when I helped launch Pajamas Media, one of the goals was to create a site that would transcend left-right politics, promote environmentalism and science, and allow free discussion of ideas without ideological blinders?"

Mr. Johnson, you must have some serious dirt on Roger Simon & Co. Write a memoir! He did.

136 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:59:25pm

Fuck Maher.
Fuck Limbaugh.
Fuck OWS.
Fuck TP.

PERFECTION.

137 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:59:47pm

re: #136 Varek Raith

Fuck Maher.
Fuck Limbaugh.
Fuck OWS.
Fuck TP.

PERFECTION.

What's on TV man?

//

138 Shvaughn  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:59:53pm

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Yes, because I have the ability to universally condemn things like rape or political violence regardless of the political affiliation of the perpetrators.
Just like I can universally support free speech regardless of the speaker. I think it's a shame that more people can't do the same.

*giggle*

139 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:00:13pm

re: #138 Shvaughn

*giggle*

[Snort.]

140 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:00:21pm

re: #137 Gus

What's on TV man?

//

Not Bear Grylls.
*rimshot*

141 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:01:31pm

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Yes, because I have the ability to universally condemn things like rape or political violence regardless of the political affiliation of the perpetrators.
Just like I can universally support free speech regardless of the speaker. I think it's a shame that more people can't do the same.

And it's so nice that you state that you can do all this and insinuate that most of us can't or won't.

Ass.

142 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:03:47pm

re: #141 talon_262

re: #130 Killgore Trout

And it's so nice that you state that you can do all this and insinuate that most of us can't or won't.

Ass.

And he wonders why he gets crap
...Wait, no, he knows perfectly well why.
It's all fun and games until someone busts out a superlaser.
PEW!

143 bratwurst  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:04:49pm

re: #131 Lidane

Yes. Because you're the perfect, morally pure arbiter of all that is good and right in the world. You're the one who has perfect principles in every way, and the rest of us can't compete.

You've got a lot of nerve to suggest that people here don't condemn rape.

More than that, he accused me by name of being in favor of rape and anti-police violence for daring to downding his obnoxious hectoring on the topic of OWS. The funny thing is that I actually agree more than not with his point of view on protests in general and OWS in particular...I just find the condescending Cassandra act to be extremely boring.

144 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:05:45pm

Julian Assange to run for Australian Senate

Lol.
Oh, shit, I can't make fun of this douche as he's on my 'team'.
DAMMIT!
No, he's still a douche.

145 Lidane  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:07:17pm

re: #141 talon_262

re: #130 Killgore Trout

And it's so nice that you state that you can do all this and insinuate that most of us can't or won't.

Oh, but of course. Because he's smarter and better than everyone else here, don'tcha know.

Honestly, I wish he'd finally GBCW and get his internet martyr card already. I'm tired of the faux morality and passive-aggressive superiority complex.

146 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:08:26pm

re: #145 Lidane

Oh, but of course. Because he's smarter and better than everyone else here, don'tcha know.

Honestly, I wish he'd finally GBCW and get his internet martyr card already. I'm tired of the faux morality and passive-aggressive superiority complex.

Especially seeing as I'm the GODLIKE BEING OF AWESOMESAUCE, not KT.

147 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:08:31pm

re: #144 Varek Raith

Julian Assange to run for Australian Senate

Lol.
Oh, shit, I can't make fun of this douche as he's on my 'team'.
DAMMIT!
No, he's still a douche.

Waitaminute, isn't Assange still under house arrest in the UK? How is he going to even attempt this and is he even eligible to run?

If he does run, I hope Assange gets the tar beat out of him, the arrogant cockbag.

148 Lidane  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:08:58pm

re: #144 Varek Raith

Julian Assange to run for Australian Senate

Lol.
Oh, shit, I can't make fun of this douche as he's on my 'team'.
DAMMIT!
No, he's still a douche.

A douche, a sociopath, and more than a little bit shady.

149 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:09:26pm

re: #147 talon_262

Waitaminute, isn't Assange still under house arrest in the UK? How is he going to even attempt this and is he even eligible to run?

If he does run, I hope Assange gets the tar beat out of him, the arrogant cockbag.

I'll check once I'm done laughing.
XD

150 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:10:23pm

Assange/? 2012!

151 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:10:26pm

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Yes, because I have the ability to universally condemn things like rape or political violence regardless of the political affiliation of the perpetrators.
Just like I can universally support free speech regardless of the speaker. I think it's a shame that more people can't do the same.

Remember when you laughed at those girls who were pepper sprayed and lied about them, calling them marxists with trust funds? There were just exercising their right to free speech, the NYPD internal investigation condemned the use of force against them, and you not only cheered the violence because you hated their perceived politics, but did it in a way that was utterly lacking in personal integrity.

152 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:10:35pm

re: #144 Varek Raith

Julian Assange to run for Australian Senate

Lol.
Oh, shit, I can't make fun of this douche as he's on my 'team'.
DAMMIT!
No, he's still a douche.

...

All you lefties are going to jump to the defense of Assange. I knew that LGF was going left but I never thought it would go this far left. Yet, I was the one that has always been consistent in apply equal blame regardless of political affiliation and stood out amongst all you against Assange!

153 jaunte  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:10:39pm

re: #144 Varek Raith

The group, which facilitates the anonymous leaking of secret information, said it discovered it is possible for Assange to run while living in England under house arrest.

International Man of Unintentional Comedy

154 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:11:13pm

re: #153 jaunte

International Man of Unintentional Comedy

ROFL.

155 Sionainn  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:11:30pm

re: #83 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

I would prefer three people randomly selected from the Las Vegas phone directory. That way, we would have at least some chance of having a decent human being in one of these offices.

Unfortunately, I have an unlisted number.

156 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:11:44pm

re: #145 Lidane

Oh, but of course. Because he's smarter and better than everyone else here, don'tcha know.

Honestly, I wish he'd finally GBCW and get his internet martyr card already. I'm tired of the faux morality and passive-aggressive superiority complex.

I don't want KT to flounce, but I wish he'd gotten a damn grip over this Occupy obsession of his.

157 Sionainn  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:12:42pm

re: #83 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

I would prefer three people randomly selected from the Las Vegas phone directory. That way, we would have at least some chance of having a decent human being in one of these offices.

Have you ever actually met people from Las Vegas? I wouldn't take those odds. ///

158 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:12:51pm

re: #156 talon_262

I don't want KT to flounce, but I wish he'd gotten a damn grip over this Occupy obsession of his.

Indeed.
Would someone please think of the frogs?!

159 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:13:35pm

re: #145 Lidane

Oh, but of course. Because he's smarter and better than everyone else here, don'tcha know.

Honestly, I wish he'd finally GBCW and get his internet martyr card already. I'm tired of the faux morality and passive-aggressive superiority complex.

It shouldn't be that outrageous to universally condemn rape or political violence.

160 Shvaughn  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:13:39pm

The site selling "Don't Re-Nig" bumper stickers got shut down (possibly temporarily) by some guys on Facebook.

An outrageous outrage? A sure sign that the Left doesn't respect freedom of speech? It's the only piece of information needed.

161 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:14:17pm

re: #160 Shvaughn

The site selling "Don't Re-Nig" bumper stickers got shut down (possibly temporarily) by some guys on Facebook.

An outrageous outrage? A sure sign that the Left doesn't respect freedom of speech? It's the only piece of information needed.

Yikes, that was for real???
:/

162 Sionainn  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:15:49pm

re: #108 Gus

I either heard a Bronx cheer or a whole roomful of people laughing.

My reaction was "WTF, dude?!?"

I'm having a very hard time reconciling the current Killgore with the one who used to post here. I used to enjoy his posts very much.

163 Lidane  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:17:35pm

re: #156 talon_262

I don't want KT to flounce, but I wish he'd gotten a damn grip over this Occupy obsession of his.

Honestly, I don't give a damn anymore. Let him flounce. Let him leave. All he ever does is post passive-aggressive bullshit about how we're all inferior to his perfect morals and his idealized view of the world.

Posting that people here can't or won't condemn rape is the last straw as far as I'm concerned. Let him flounce and let the stalkers have him if they want. I'm done.

164 erik_t  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:18:29pm

There's nothing I love more than bringing up LGF and finding an exciting new take on OWS/free-speech/outrageous-outrage etc etc etc, complete with hypocritical navel-gazing from the usual suspects.

Probably a sign from above that I should get back to the couch and watch more basketball.

165 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:18:40pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

It shouldn't be that outrageous to universally condemn rape or political violence.

Then why in the fuck do you think that our refusal to join in your little crusade against OWS means we approve of rape and violence?

166 allegro  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:18:57pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

It shouldn't be that outrageous to universally condemn rape or political violence.

I guess feeling superior to a strawman is better than nothing.

167 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:18:59pm

re: #162 Sionainn

My reaction was "WTF, dude?!?"

I'm having a very hard time reconciling the current Killgore with the one who used to post here. I used to enjoy his posts very much.

I'm the same person I've always been. I've changed a bit but not much. I've always opposed radicalism, terrorism, religious fundamentalism, supported free speech, etc. I haven't changed.

168 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:20:38pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Yet I seem to be the only one with the ability to condemn something as universally reprehensible as rape regardless of the political affiliation of the rapist.

For you mere physical proximity to a protest (as long as it's a liberal protest) is all you need to determine someone's political affiliation. Your methodology is incredibly lazy, inherently dishonest, and utterly lacking in integrity. That's the reason people are laughing at you.

The only free speech that seems to matter to you is that of established media pundits. You laughed when unarmed, unthreatening women on the sidewalk were pepper sprayed for no reason and condemn the average person who dares to inform advertisers how their sponsorships will impact his or her buying habits.

169 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:21:40pm

re: #165 Targetpractice

Then why in the fuck do you think that our refusal to join in your little crusade against OWS means we approve of rape and violence?

It's the "you're either with us or against us" syndrome. Most of us didn't completely disavow Occupy and every argument they were trying to make, so that meant we assented to every thing that went wrong with the different Occupys, even criminal activity.

Fuck that.

170 Sionainn  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:22:21pm

re: #167 Killgore Trout

I'm the same person I've always been. I've changed a bit but not much. I've always opposed radicalism, terrorism, religious fundamentalism, supported free speech, etc. I haven't changed.

Oh, yes, you have, you really, really have.

171 Lidane  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:22:34pm

re: #168 goddamnedfrank

It doesn't matter anymore, frank. Let KT live in his delusional bubble of being the perfect moral arbiter for everyone else. It's what keeps his passive-aggressive bullshit going.

172 engineer cat  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:22:58pm

well, not i'm not necessarily against radicals

george washington was a radical

173 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:23:23pm

I pirated some software in the past.
Therefore, you are all pirates.

174 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:23:42pm

re: #173 Varek Raith

I pirated some software in the past.
Therefore, you are all pirates.

Argh.

175 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:24:45pm

re: #171 Lidane

It doesn't matter anymore, frank. Let KT live in his delusional bubble of being the perfect moral arbiter for everyone else. It's what keeps his passive-aggressive bullshit going.

Perhaps you can tell me why it's ok to post about a rape now that a Tea Partier is involved instead of an Occupier. You won;t convinced me but I'd ;like to know how you think it's now different because of the change in political affiliation.

176 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:25:08pm

re: #173 Varek Raith

I pirated some software in the past.
Therefore, you are all pirates.

...
That sounded cooler than I thought It'd be.
:P

177 Interesting Times  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:25:09pm

re: #167 Killgore Trout

I'm the same person I've always been. I've changed a bit but not much. I've always opposed radicalism, terrorism, religious fundamentalism, supported free speech, etc. I haven't changed.

Once upon a time, you posted incredibly well-researched and factual pieces, like the Reuters knife-cropped-out flotilla photo. Your OWS research, in comparison, is of Fox-News caliber.

178 Amory Blaine  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:27:14pm

Apple’s New iPad Already Jailbroken

Just hours after the new Apple iPad (I’ll be referring to it as “the new iPad” throughout this article, not iPad 3) was released, it was jailbroken in three (how appropriate!) separate ways. This means that hackers have already found and exploited security holes to run custom code on the new iPad running iOS 5.1.

Dev-Team’s iPhone hacker MuscleNerd posted a few pictures on Twitter showing the new iPad running the Cydia Store for jailbroken devices and a terminal app, both of which cannot run on an iOS device unless it’s been jailbroken.

179 Lidane  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:27:36pm

re: #175 Killgore Trout

I don't care about what you want, KT. Even if I posted an answer, you'd just twist my words in your usual passive-aggressive way and turn yourself into a martyr. Again.

I'm done. Think what you want. Post whatever the hell you want. Once you said that people here wouldn't or couldn't condemn rape, I was over it. You can post here or leave for all I care. Maybe the stalkers will take you in. You should fit right in over there.

180 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:28:07pm

re: #177 Interesting Times

Once upon a time, you posted incredibly well-researched and factual pieces, like the Reuters knife-cropped-out flotilla photo. Your OWS research, in comparison, is of Fox-News caliber.

It was about the same as my look into the tea party. I looked into the organizers and participating groups. I looked at the signs and listened to the speeches.
I think the days of stories like the knife cropping incident, doctored reuters photo, throbbing memo, etc are gone. We really don;t cover that kind of thing here anymore so it's unlikely we're going to turn up those kinds of stories.

181 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:29:17pm

re: #179 Lidane

I don't care about what you want, KT. Even if I posted an answer, you'd just twist my words in your usual passive-aggressive way and turn yourself into a martyr. Again.

I'm done. Think what you want. Post whatever the hell you want. Once you said that people here wouldn't or couldn't condemn rape, I was over it. You can post here or leave for all I care. Maybe the stalkers will take you in. You should fit right in over there.

I don't think they'd have me. The blog was originally called "Killgore free footballs" because they were pissed about my Tea Party coverage.

182 Shvaughn  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:32:45pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

Hey, KT, I've been wondering something for a while now.

Why is your name misspelled?

183 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:34:43pm

re: #175 Killgore Trout

Perhaps you can tell me why it's ok to post about a rape now that a Tea Partier is involved instead of an Occupier. You won;t convinced me but I'd ;like to know how you think it's now different because of the change in political affiliation.

C'mon Trout, you aren't stupid, you didn't miss this part:

Lemon Grove resident Michael John Kobulnicky, 50, a leader in the San Diego Tea Party and former regional director of the Southern California Conservative Party, is under arrest for allegedly kidnapping and raping a local woman on Fiesta Island.

To my recollection you never once linked to a story purporting to show a rape by any of the OWS organizers or officers. The few instances were perpetrated by hangers on or street people who were camping in mere proximity to the protests. Mere physical proximity doesn't describe someone's political affiliation, no matter how much you want it to. On the other hand the double crime of kidnapping and rape by a Tea Party leader and former regional director is notable precisely because we can determine the man's political affiliation with a high degree of certainty.

184 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:35:59pm

re: #182 Shvaughn

Hey, KT, I've been wondering something for a while now.

Why is your name misspelled?

They give you a spare "l" in lieu of a mint on your pillow at the Tralfamadore Hilton.

185 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:36:00pm

re: #182 Shvaughn

Hey, KT, I've been wondering something for a while now.

Why is your name misspelled?

In the days of limited opportunities to register on LGF it was a big fucking deal to catch an open registration. You had to act quick before the door shut again. There were a lot of misspelled nics from that era. Brookly Red, Opnion, etc.

186 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:36:12pm

OMG! I just got a phone call from an old buddy of mine.. He is in OKC doing a job for awhile. We are heading to the Riverwind Casino here in Norman Monday.. Life brings so any surprises...

187 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:37:01pm

re: #185 Killgore Trout

In the days of limited opportunities to register on LGF it was a big fucking deal to catch an open registration. You had to act quick before the door shut again. There were a lot of misspelled nics from that era. Brookly Red, Opnion, etc.

Midwestgak..LOL

188 Interesting Times  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:37:16pm

re: #183 goddamnedfrank

On the other hand the double crime of kidnapping and rape by a Tea Party leader and former regional director is notable precisely because we can determine the man's political affiliation with a high degree of certainty.

Also notable because the Tea Party and, by extension, the GOP, has been pushing extremely sexist, retrograde, and anti-woman policies.

189 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:37:36pm

re: #185 Killgore Trout

In the days of limited opportunities to register on LGF it was a big fucking deal to catch an open registration. You had to act quick before the door shut again. There were a lot of misspelled nics from that era. Brookly Red, Opnion, etc.

Vice President Biden, is that you?

/

190 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:37:43pm

re: #183 goddamnedfrank

C'mon Trout, you aren't stupid, you didn't miss this part:

To my recollection you never once linked to a story purporting to show a rape by any of the OWS organizers or officers. The few instances were perpetrated by hangers on or street people who were camping in mere proximity to the protests. Mere physical proximity doesn't describe someone's political affiliation, no matter how much you want it to. On the other hand the double crime of kidnapping and rape by a Tea Party leader and former regional director is notable precisely because we can determine the man's political affiliation with a high degree of certainty.

Ok, thanks for the honest answer. To be accurate of of the first Occupy rapes in New York was from one of the organizers who worked in the camp kitchen.

191 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:38:06pm

re: #187 HoosierHoops

Midwestgak..LOL

Heh

192 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:38:35pm

re: #183 goddamnedfrank

C'mon Trout, you aren't stupid, you didn't miss this part:

To my recollection you never once linked to a story purporting to show a rape by any of the OWS organizers or officers. The few instances were perpetrated by hangers on or street people who were camping in mere proximity to the protests. Mere physical proximity doesn't describe someone's political affiliation, no matter how much you want it to. On the other hand the double crime of kidnapping and rape by a Tea Party leader and former regional director is notable precisely because we can determine the man's political affiliation with a high degree of certainty.

Oh, he's branched out from simply close proximity. Remember the guy who murdered his parents, whose motivations were OWS-related because the second to last article mentioned he'd had an argument with his parents about his hanging around the camp?

193 bratwurst  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:39:59pm

re: #188 Interesting Times

Also notable because the Tea Party and, by extension, the GOP, has been pushing extremely sexist, retrograde, and anti-woman policies.

But remember...Bill Maher being an asshole on stage and having a filthy mouth is JUST AS BAD as the growing amount of anti-woman legislation being discussed or already on the books around this country.

194 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:42:11pm

I invoke the magical imbalance fairy, because there really is no equality.

I'm with Buster Kilrain, in "Killer Angels;" "I'll be treated as I deserve."

I.e. no better and no worse.

"Kilrain rubbed his nose, brooding. Then he said, “The truth is, Colonel, that there’s no divine spark, bless you. There’s many a man alive no more value than a dead dog. Believe me, when you’ve seen them hang each other. Equality? Christ in Heaven. What I’m fighting for is the right to prove I’m a better man than many. Where have you seen this divine spark in operation, Colonel? Where have you noted this magnificent equality? The Great White Joker in the Sky dooms us all to stupidity or poverty from birth. No two things on earth are equal or have an equal chance, not a leaf nor a tree. There’s many a man worse than me, and some better, but I don’t think race or country matters a damn. What matters is justice. ‘Tis why I’m here. I’ll be treated as I deserve, not as my father deserved. I’m Kilrain, and I God-damn all gentlemen. I don’t know who me father was and I don’t give a damn. There’s only one aristocracy, and that’s right here–” he tapped his white skull with a thick finger–”and you Colonel laddie, are a member of it and don’t even know it. You are damned good at everything I’ve seen you do, a lovely soldier, an honest man, and you got a good heart on you too, which is rare in clever men. Strange thing, I’m not a clever man meself, but I know it when I run across it. The strange and marvelous thing about you, Colonel darlin’, is that you believe in mankind, even preachers, whereas when you’ve got my great experience of the world you will have learned that good men are rare, much rarer than you think. Ah,” he raised his hands, smiling, “don’t you worry about ministers. The more you kill, the more you do the world a service.”

195 Interesting Times  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:42:28pm

re: #193 bratwurst

But remember...Bill Maher being an asshole on stage and having a filthy mouth is JUST AS BAD as the growing amount of anti-woman legislation being discussed or already on the books around this country.

Heh, I was just about to follow up with words to that effect :) Howard Stern is another celebrity who's said extremely disgusting things about women on his show, yet he supports abortion rights (leading one Women's mag to name him "most unlikely feminist") and he defended Ellen DeGeneres when she was attacked by some homophobic group.

So, to paraphrase the illustrious Ann Coulter, our sexists are so much better than their sexists :P

196 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:42:48pm

re: #190 Killgore Trout

Ok, thanks for the honest answer. To be accurate of of the first Occupy rapes in New York was from one of the organizers who worked in the camp kitchen.

Got a link?

197 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:45:16pm

re: #190 Killgore Trout

Ok, thanks for the honest answer. To be accurate of of the first Occupy rapes in New York was from one of the organizers who worked in the camp kitchen.

Tonye Iketubosin did work in the kitchen. However he wasn't an organizer, the Occupy Wall Street encampment had been in place for five weeks before he showed up, a week later he was arrested.

Again, I don't think you're stupid. You know this stuff, you're just dishonest enough to only tell half the story.

198 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:46:04pm

re: #192 Targetpractice

Oh, he's branched out from simply close proximity. Remember the guy who murdered his parents, whose motivations were OWS-related because the second to last article mentioned he'd had an argument with his parents about his hanging around the camp?

Yes, also another one of the first Occupy rapes was an underaged girl in DC. Judging from the interview I think she was also mentally handicapped. Another case in Connecticut ( I think) where and underaged girl was taken from the camp and found being prostituted in a whore house nearby. It was part of the unsupervised free for all atmosphere of the camps that made them a dangerous place, especially for children.

200 Lidane  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:49:11pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

Sounds like you have a real talent for making friends.

Surely there's a place out there somewhere that can actually handle your unshakable moral purity and your passive-aggressive knowledge of all that is good and right in the world while everyone else trembles at your feet like the inferiors they supposedly are.

201 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:49:27pm

The Daily Fail.
Awesome.

202 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:50:36pm

re: #201 Varek Raith

The Daily Fail.
Awesome.

It's a well documented story. You can google it for yourself.

203 Talking Point Detective  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:50:53pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Yet I seem to be the only one with the ability to condemn something as universally reprehensible as rape regardless of the political affiliation of the rapist.

Are people around here supporting rapes and stabbings again?

Thank God you're around to ferret them out.

204 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:52:30pm

re: #203 Talking Point Detective

Are people around here supporting rapes and stabbings again?

Thank God you're around to ferret them out.

You're welcome.

205 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:52:33pm

re: #202 Killgore Trout

It's a well documented story. You can google it for yourself.

And yet you linked to a tabloid.
Why?

206 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:53:22pm

re: #205 Varek Raith

And yet you linked to a tabloid.
Why?

It was the first result from google.
/or maybe there's some other nefarious reason

207 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:53:36pm

re: #199 Killgore Trout

Occupy Wall Street's 'serial rapist': Kitchen worker charged with sex abuse and quizzed over 'several attacks' at New York camp

Oh yeah, that one. That dude was no OWS "organizer", he glommed on because he saw an opportunity to prey on others; I'm glad they caught his ass.

Thanks for playing, but better luck next time.

208 Talking Point Detective  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:54:24pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

It's also the same issue with Maher and Limbaugh. Sure they aren't perfectly analogous but the one key difference determining the outrage is their political affiliation. Nobody really gives a shit about "elevating the discourse" or free speech issues. It's all just phony partisan outrage.

I agree that there is much selective partisan outrage, but your broad-brush guilt-by-association tactics certainly lower the discourse - and that's true whether we're talking about OWS or the Tea Party.

209 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:56:03pm

Lots of sirens.

210 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:56:17pm

re: #208 Talking Point Detective

I agree that there is much selective partisan outrage, but your broad-brush guilt-by-association tactics certainly lower the discourse - and that's true whether we're talking about OWS or the Tea Party.

Some people just can't separate the message from the people putting the message out...or messages from other messages.

Judge each on their own merits and faults.

211 Stanghazi  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:56:49pm

Fuck the killgore show, again. Charles I think is steppingion again with a savior thread. This is a narcissist show.

212 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:57:10pm

re: #208 Talking Point Detective

I agree that there is much selective partisan outrage, but your broad-brush guilt-by-association tactics certainly lower the discourse - and that's true whether we're talking about OWS or the Tea Party.

Well, I guess I could just tell a bunch of Santorum jokes. Those are nice.
I'm just kidding. I don't see any reason to ignore radicals or violent actions by anybody. Not the Tea Party or OWS.

213 Talking Point Detective  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:57:34pm

re: #204 Killgore Trout

You're welcome.

The problem there is that I was being sarcastic, and no doubt you are being serious.

Your really think that someone here would dismiss a rape or stabbing because of the partisan affiliation, don't you.

Sorry, but your agenda is causing delusions.

214 CuriousLurker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:57:44pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

Nobody really gives a shit about "elevating the discourse" or free speech issues. It's all just phony partisan outrage.

"Nobody" is a lot of people (and would include you). You have no way of knowing that for sure.

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Yet I seem to be the only one with the ability to condemn something as universally reprehensible as rape regardless of the political affiliation of the rapist.

That's a fucked up thing to say, and it's untrue. You know what's annoying? That you talk down to us, as if you're the only responsible adult and the rest of us are just a bunch of spoiled children throwing tantrums. "Do as I say, not as I do!"

It's insulting & disrespectful and I can't for the life of me understand why you keep doing it. You're not going to convince anyone to rethink their position by insulting or taunting them, so what's the point in doing it? Does showing your contempt for us elevate the discourse?

Those are rhetorical questions, so don't bother answering. I'm going down to the store to buy some smokes, then I'm going to break out my art supplies and forget about this political bullshit for the rest of the afternoon.

215 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:58:29pm

re: #213 Talking Point Detective

The problem there is that I was being sarcastic, and no doubt you are being serious.

I was being sarcastic. Now you're serious.

216 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:58:49pm

There were some bad people at civil rights rallies in the 60s too.

217 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:59:31pm

re: #214 CuriousLurker

Have a nice painting jihad!

218 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 1:59:57pm

There are bad people on the internet.

219 Talking Point Detective  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:00:40pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

Well, I guess I could just tell a bunch of Santorum jokes. Those are nice.
I'm just kidding. I don't see any reason to ignore radicals or violent actions by anybody. Not the Tea Party or OWS.

The problem isn't that you think that those types of things shouldn't be ignored. The problem is that you have deluded yourself into thinking that anyone else believes differently from you in that regard.

220 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:00:46pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Now you're just trolling.

221 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:02:25pm

All you have to do is apply KT's treatment of OWS to the Civil Rights era protests.
Behold, as it all falls apart.

222 Talking Point Detective  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:03:33pm

re: #221 Varek Raith

All you have to do is apply KT's treatment of OWS to the Civil Rights era protests.
Behold, as it all falls apart.

Actually - plenty of people did. It was an explicit tactic.

223 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:05:24pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

I couldn't tell if you were trying to be an ass or not with that reply to C_L, but it felt like you were. If so, get over yourself, because it wasn't cool at all.

224 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:07:00pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Have a nice painting jihad!

Seriously?

225 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:07:37pm

It's ok to hate hippies KT.
Just stop letting that cloud your judgement. You never broad brushed the TP like you have OWS. You even attacked those who would normally agree with you. The reason many didn't was because your obvious glee at cops pepper spraying trust fund Marxists.
Please stop playing us for fools.

:)
Passive aggressive smiley.

226 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:08:04pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Have a nice painting jihad!

If you're trying to shred whatever little good will might remain here, you're doing a grand job of it.

227 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:08:36pm

Performance art.
Hi Herman!

228 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:09:06pm

Gay couple interrupts Rick Santorum's speech in Arlington Heights, IL

Rick Santorum supporters were enraged as two male hecklers interrupted the Republican hopeful’s rally at Christian Liberty Academy in Arlington Heights, Illinois by kissing each other. The incensed crowd erupted in boos, as security guards quickly surrounded the instigators and ushered them out of the assembly before it got ugly. The aggravated attendees were thrown into a frenzy and began screaming “U-S-A! U-S-A!” in the protesters’ faces.

229 Shvaughn  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:10:35pm

re: #228 Gus

More gay couples should stage kiss-in protests.

230 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:10:45pm
231 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:10:51pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Have a nice painting jihad!

Damn dude. Under different circumstances that might have been, funny. That was out of line in this case. You're not even following your own advice that you so freely and frequently pass about.

232 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:12:09pm

I'm sorry.
What were we tal...
OMG HOT CHICKS KISSING!

...
What?
/

233 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:13:56pm

re: #224 SanFranciscoZionist

re: #226 Targetpractice

re: #231 Gus

I was afraid that I was about the only one who had an issue with KT's reply to C_L; it doesn't make me glad to see that I wasn't.

234 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:14:49pm

re: #233 talon_262

re: #226 Targetpractice

re: #231 Gus

I was afraid that I wasn't the only one who had an issue with KT's reply to C_L; it doesn't make me glad to see that I wasn't.

When CL comes back and sees that. Well...

235 engineer cat  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:15:04pm

San Diego Tea Party Leader arrested for kidnapping, rape

March 17, 2012 (Lemon Grove)—Lemon Grove resident Michael John Kobulnicky, 50, a leader in the San Diego Tea Party and former regional director of the Southern California Conservative Party, is under arrest for allegedly kidnapping and raping a local woman on Fiesta Island.

“He dragged her out of the car and sexually assaulted her pretty brutally,” San Diego Police Lt. Andra Brown told ECM news partner 10 News in late February, shortly after the February 25 assault occurred.

236 Stanghazi  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:15:13pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Have a nice painting jihad!

Wow. Is this IT? How far does KT get to go?

237 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:15:20pm

re: #234 Gus

When CL comes back and sees that. Well...

Plenty of room in the bunker.

238 chandsolo  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:15:45pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Go Cheney yourself!

239 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:16:04pm

re: #234 Gus

When CL comes back and sees that. Well...

Whoops...corrected my post.

240 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:17:04pm

Hopefully my awesome humor will lighten things up a bit.

241 Gus  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:17:49pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Have a nice painting jihad!

I have a suggestion. Apologize to CL when you see her.

242 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:18:12pm

re: #33 wrenchwench

Limbaugh said [I gotta try again to unsubscribe from his emails] that the Catholic Church turned Lefty because they mistook government spending for charity, when actually it's theft. He didn't use the word 'theft', I think he said 'appropriating' or something.

Yes, clearly the Catholic Church didn't get the nuances of policy and theology, areas they have very little understanding of. It took Limbaugh to clarify things for them.

Seriously, I will acknowledge that the Church has done dumbshit kneejerk stuff, but in this case, their stance is a well-thought-out, entirely theologically consistent approach. Just because it happens to be something Limbaugh is against doesn't mean that they 'mistook' anything.

243 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:19:18pm

Uh oh.
SFZ is moving down the thread.
TAKE COVER!

244 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:21:14pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

That may be the single dumbest political video I've ever seen.

Bill Maher uses sexist language, so Obama is waging a "war on women?" What. The. Fuck.

This is the kind of crapthink reversal bullshit that the right specializes in. And it doesn't fool anyone except other wingnuts. The only purpose of this kind of shit is to keep the base enraged.

Look, let's make it a two-fer. Both Maher and Limbaugh can be kicked in the ass. I have no objections whatsoever. I will not try to save Bill Maher. I promise.

245 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:21:17pm

re: #236 March Madness, way better than politics!

Wow. Is this IT? How far does KT get to go?

What KT said, in a lighter context, isn't necessarily a big deal, as a common translation of "jihad" is "struggle". However, in the context of C_L's post that KT posted his reply to (and the running squabble in this thread with other posters), it makes him look like a jackass.

246 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:24:30pm

re: #83 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

I would prefer three people randomly selected from the Las Vegas phone directory. That way, we would have at least some chance of having a decent human being in one of these offices.

Now I'm envisioning one of the girls from the Mustang Ranch, in the U.S. seat at the United Nations, adjusting her name tage over her cleavage and looking very serious. I expect she'd do a great job. Being a prostitute is all about reading people, and figuring out how to get something out of them without getting hurt. Diplomacy, similar.

247 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:25:49pm

re: #224 SanFranciscoZionist

Seriously?

We have exchanged similar good willed comments before. Although her post to me was very angry I responded with the same good will and cheer I always have with her. I like her regardless of how she feels about me. I was just wishing her a nice day of painting with a little humor. It's nothing outrageous.

248 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:26:00pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

It's also the same issue with Maher and Limbaugh. Sure they aren't perfectly analogous but the one key difference determining the outrage is their political affiliation. Nobody really gives a shit about "elevating the discourse" or free speech issues. It's all just phony partisan outrage.

This is sort of true. It doesn't balance out the fact that Limbaugh has crossed a whole new line in the last couple of weeks, but you have a certain point there.

249 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:26:36pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Yet I seem to be the only one with the ability to condemn something as universally reprehensible as rape regardless of the political affiliation of the rapist.

So, nu, condemn.

250 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:27:44pm

re: #144 Varek Raith

Julian Assange to run for Australian Senate

Lol.
Oh, shit, I can't make fun of this douche as he's on my 'team'.
DAMMIT!
No, he's still a douche.

Mock freely. Julian Assange is on no one's team but his own.

251 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:30:17pm

Image: funny-gifs-darth-vader-in-portland.gif

All your arguments are belong to me.

252 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:31:01pm

re: #230 Varek Raith

Image: Kissx-large.jpg

Giggity!

How do you interrupt a speech by kissing?

253 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:33:24pm

re: #245 talon_262

What KT said, in a lighter context, isn't necessarily a big deal, as a common translation of "jihad" is "struggle". However, in the context of C_L's post that KT posted his reply to, it makes him look like a jackass.

"Have a nice painting struggle"?

No.

I would have accepted "Enjoy your weekend."

"Jihad" is not a neutral word in English, not aimed at a Muslim correspondent who is upset with you.

254 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:34:01pm

re: #247 Killgore Trout

We have exchanged similar good willed comments before. Although her post to me was very angry I responded with the same good will and cheer I always have with her. I like her regardless of how she feels about me. I was just wishing her a nice day of paining with a little humor. It's nothing outrageous.

I'll let her decide if she feels the same way. I did not.

255 engineer cat  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:36:51pm

re: #252 SanFranciscoZionist

How do you interrupt a speech by kissing?

it was distracting the angels and seraphs making the PA system work

256 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:40:14pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Christ on a crutch KT, that's way the fuck out of line.

257 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:41:26pm

re: #254 SanFranciscoZionist

I'll let her decide if she feels the same way. I did not.

I wished her a happy coffee jihad the other day, I also told her recently that she was pretty patriotic for a muslim, she responded with a taquiya quip. All in good humor and from a place of love.
Don't get distracted be the hate and anger in this thread. It's not from me.

258 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:42:16pm
259 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:46:12pm

re: #253 SanFranciscoZionist

"Have a nice painting struggle"?

No.

I would have accepted "Enjoy your weekend."

"Jihad" is not a neutral word in English, not aimed at a Muslim correspondent who is upset with you.

If what KT said to C_L was in the context of a lighter conversation, I'd scratch my head about it, but I wouldn't think that he was trying to hurt her or piss her off, because it might be some sort of in-joke between them or something.

As the matter stands, however, with the course of the thread and the fact that C_L was a bit pissed with KT, I'd say that KT came off like a complete jackass in his reply to her, even if he didn't intend it.

Words have consequences.

260 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:54:50pm

re: #259 talon_262

If what KT said to C_L was in the context of a lighter conversation, I'd scratch my head about it, but I wouldn't think that he was trying to hurt her or piss her off, because it might some sort of in-joke between them or something.

As the matter stands, however, with the course of the thread and the fact that C_L was a bit pissed with KT, I'd say that KT came off like a complete jackass in his reply to her, even if he didn't intend it.

Words have consequences.

Since this seems to be an effort to create another in an endless series of outrageous outrages and ascribe motivations to me that I don't have Here's my conversation with CL from about two days ago.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
There was no malice intended or implied on my part. Just fury from angry idiots try to create a controversy where none exists.

261 Interesting Times  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:55:58pm

re: #247 Killgore Trout

We have exchanged similar good willed comments before. Although her post to me was very angry I responded with the same good will and cheer I always have with her.

Nice passive-aggressive attempt to portray her as raging and out-of-control while you're so epically "zen" in comparison. I would've expected this level of douchebaggery from Walter. What do you expect to accomplish by acting like him? o_O

262 chandsolo  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 2:56:50pm

re: #260 Killgore Trout

You really are a shithead.

263 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 3:01:54pm

re: #260 Killgore Trout

Since this seems to be an effort to create another in an endless series of outrageous outrages and ascribe motivations to be that I don;t have Here's my conversation with CL from about two days ago.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
There was no malice intended or implied on my part. Just fury from angry idiots try to create a controversy where none exists.

Given how combative you've been throughout the thread and how C_L was not happy with some of the things you said (and kept her reply very civil, BTW), how did you think people were going to take your "jihad" comment back to her?

Did you think about it at all?

264 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 3:11:57pm

re: #259 talon_262

Words have consequences.

Situations like this are why I'm wary of people dealing out the consequences of other's words. Manufacture an outrageous outrage out of thin air targeting someone with you disagree with politically and start demanding consequences be paid for something that's completely made up. No doubt Charles in getting plenty of comment reports about the outrageous outrage. Probably even emails demanding I be banned (which could happen).

265 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 3:12:54pm

re: #263 talon_262

Did you think about it at all?

No, I saw her anger and responded with good cheer and humor.

266 Lidane  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 3:18:43pm

re: #252 SanFranciscoZionist

How do you interrupt a speech by kissing?

By getting all the sexually repressed people in the audience all hot and bothered. Suddenly, they might realize that the guy they're listening to is No Fun, and that's bad. Heh.

267 TedStriker  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 3:22:18pm

re: #264 Killgore Trout

Situations like this are why I'm wary of people dealing out the consequences of other's words. Manufacture an outrageous outrage out of thin air targeting someone with you disagree with politically and start demanding consequences be paid for something that's completely made up. No doubt Charles in getting plenty of comment reports about the outrageous outrage. Probably even emails demanding I be banned (which could happen).

That wasn't the "consequences" I was speaking of, KT. Besides, Charles is no dummy. We're all here at his pleasure, but I seriously doubt you've hit "BAN ME!" territory.

The "consequences" I spoke of was other Lizards tuning you out when your obsessions get the better of you and you're not making any damn sense.

268 Obdicut  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 3:26:29pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

It shouldn't be that outrageous to universally condemn rape or political violence.

Then why didn't you condemn the use of pepper spray on the non-violent protesters? Why instead did you celebrate it?

Inquiring minds want to know.

269 Jimmah  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 4:01:17pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

It's also the same issue with Maher and Limbaugh. Sure they aren't perfectly analogous but the one key difference determining the outrage is their political affiliation. Nobody really gives a shit about "elevating the discourse" or free speech issues. It's all just phony partisan outrage.

On the rare occasions when self-proclaimed 'liberals' go an a misogynistic rampage right here on LGF, they get their asses handed to them. This is not a partisan issue. Please stop projecting this sort of bullshit onto us.

270 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 4:21:13pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Have a nice painting jihad!

Oh look, the real Killgore speaks

271 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 4:29:30pm

re: #269 1ceweasel

On the rare occasions when self-proclaimed 'liberals' go an a misogynistic rampage right here on LGF, they get their asses handed to them. This is not a partisan issue. Please stop projecting this sort of bullshit onto us.

You ain't just whistlin' 'Dixie', Ice. Killgore, you seriously best back off.

272 Jimmah  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 4:36:27pm

re: #270 windupbird is in the gravity well

Oh look, the real Killgore speaks

Given that he said recently that he has not changed his views in the time he has been here, we can assume that he still feels that modern American men are 'disgustingly emasculated' as per a comment of his from a while back. Also various (jaw droppingly) odd comments about women, particlularly in movies etc ("Busty McBigTits"?). Personally I think this might have a lot to do with his reluctance to criticise Limbaugh for his recent behaviour.

273 simoom  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 5:05:11pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

It actually would have surprised me if they'd pointed out that Obama cannot legally order the SuperPAC to give back the money or have any control over what it does, ...

The other thing is if the media gets away from the false equivalence to Limbaugh, and is really going to apply a new rule to both sides by policing SuperPAC donors for having said or done objectionable things, it's going to effect the Right far more than the Left. Their SuperPACs are far larger & much better financed by a small number of donors & a number of those donors have said & done some pretty outrageous things.

274 sunnygal  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 7:09:02pm

re: #6 Gus

GWB:

---

No one seems to quote John's response to Abigail's "remember the ladies..." He wrote, "As to your extraordinary code of laws, I cannot but laugh...Depend on it, we know better than to repeal our masculine systems...and rather than give up this, which would completely subject us to the despotism of the petticoat, I hope General Washington and all our brave herose would fight."

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

275 Flavia  Sat, Mar 17, 2012 9:33:32pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Have a nice painting jihad!

EXCUSE ME? WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SUPPOSED TO MEAN??
Never mind, don't tell me - I guarantee you I will refuse to believe you could have meant anything excusable by it.

276 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:47:03am

re: #180 Killgore Trout

It was about the same as my look into the tea party.

If true, then, I'm sorry to say, your look at the Tea Party was close to worthless.

277 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:54:39am

re: #126 Killgore Trout

My selective outrage hypothesis can stand up to the scientific method and predict future results. The next outrage that sweeps the political landscape (be it a rape or someone is called a ****) I can tell who is going to be outraged and who is going to make excuses simply by looking at the political affiliation of of the perpetrator. It's the only piece of information needed.

Well, just don't pretend that you're a neutral observer. You're making assumptions about the equivalence of the liberal left and the conservative right ideological complexes. As in: they're both basically benign, and when there is extremism on both sides, it's equal and deserves equal focus.

However, that's begging the question. It can be argued, for example, that a social conservative agenda presents far more danger to a nation thus meriting more attention to its extremist variations. You may disagree with this, but let's not pretend that the full equivalence position is the default and unbiased one.


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