Rick Santorum Accuses Obama Administration of ‘Favoring Pornographers Over Children’

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Today on CNN, Rick Santorum repeated his bizarre attacks on the Obama administration, ranting crazily that the Justice Department favors pornographers over children and families. This deranged nonsense apparently plays well with the right wing base — either that, or Rick Santorum is simply not right in the head.

Santorum also accused President Obama of being an “appeaser of evil.” This is very sick stuff; I don’t think I’ve ever seen such twisted counter-factual arguments in a presidential campaign.

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110 comments
1 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 10:55:09am

Over children? So that's kind of an accusation of Obama supporting child pornographers? What the fuck?

2 Targetpractice  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 10:55:21am

So, the GOP has decided that pissing off women wasn't enough, they're now gonna piss off men by taking away their porn?

3 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 10:57:14am

The 'weak horse' that killed bin Laden.

4 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 10:57:56am

ap·pease [uh-peez]
verb (used with object), -peased, -peas·ing.

To kill, either by the use of covert operations commandos or munitions fired from unmanned aerial vehicles.

5 Stanghazi  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 10:58:27am

Santorum is crazy.

6 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 10:58:38am

NO PORN, MORE WAR!!!

7 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 10:58:44am

re: #1 Obdicut

Over children? So that's kind of an accusation of Obama supporting child pornographers? What the fuck?

No he's saying that pornography is dangerous and harmful to families and children. Since it's harmful it need to be censored.

8 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 10:59:43am

re: #6 jaunte

NO PORN, MORE WAR!!!

Sell those bumper stickers at your nearest tea party. You'll get rich!

9 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:00:00am

He's running against the tendencies of his base.

Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers

10 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:00:04am

Rick sounds like he is losing his voice. Humanity should be so fortunate.

11 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:00:37am

re: #7 Killgore Trout

No he's saying that pornography is dangerous and harmful to families and children. Since it's harmful it need to be censored.

Oh, okay. That's not nearly as bad, though still stupid.

If he doesn't like pornography, he's free to not consume it, organize boycotts of it, and highlight the people making a profit off of it. There's a lot about the porn industry that's shady as hell, and sunlight on it is fine. But active government censorship is stupid.

12 JAFO  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:01:41am

re: #9 jaunte

He's running against the tendencies of his base.

Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers

That's only because liberals know how to find free porn.

13 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:02:05am

re: #9 jaunte

Hee hee.

Church-goers bought less online porn on Sundays – a 1% increase in a postal code's religious attendance was associated with a 0.1% drop in subscriptions that day. However, expenditures on other days of the week brought them in line with the rest of the country, Edelman finds.

Keep the lord's day sacred, take your pants off the rest of the week.

14 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:03:37am

If you watch the video, you'll see that Santorum is claiming that the Obama Justice Department is deliberately not prosecuting pornography cases. He cites absolutely no evidence for the claim, of course.

15 Archangelus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:05:21am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

"what is this evidence thing you speak of?"
/

16 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:05:40am

Porn prosecution fuels debate

Social conservatives railed against the Clinton Administration for not prosecuting adult obscenity and were disappointed when few such cases were brought in the early years of the Bush Administration. Things perked up a bit in 2005 when Attorney General Alberto Gonzales set up an Obscenity Prosecution Task Force, which ultimately focused on prosecuting fetish, bestiality and so-called fringe porn.

Six months into the Obama Administration, the task force is still in business and is still headed by a former U.S. Attorney for Utah under President Ronald Reagan, Brent Ward.

“Ward is still around. This has been somewhat surprising to a lot of us,” Sirkin said.

Since Obama’s inauguration, prosecutors have pressed on with pending obscenity cases and accepted guilty pleas in one high-profile prosecution brought in Pittsburgh. However, there have been no announcements of new adult obscenity indictments, a trend that Justice Department officials declined to discuss, though they did note that federal prosecutions for child pornography have continued apace.

17 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:06:19am

re: #14 Charles Johnson
I could only watch part of it. I started to get sick. :(

18 Interesting Times  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:06:54am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

If you watch the video, you'll see that Santorum is claiming that the Obama Justice Department is deliberately not prosecuting pornography cases. He cites absolutely no evidence for the claim, of course.

"Evidence" has a well-known liberal bias. And if it contradicts the Bible, it's falsely-false-false-false.

19 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:10:09am

Seems like Santorum will be a turn-off to a lot of closet conservative porn-watchers.

20 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:10:18am

August 2011:

Attorney General and DHS Secretary Announce Largest U.S. Prosecution of International Criminal Network Organized to Sexually Exploit Children

Members of Online Child Pornography Community Arrested on Five Continents
WASHINGTON – Attorney General Eric Holder and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano announced today the unsealing of three indictments and one complaint charging a total of 72 individuals for their participation in an international criminal network dedicated to the sexual abuse of children and the creation and dissemination of graphic images and videos of child sexual abuse throughout the world.

21 Stanghazi  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:10:33am

This election has gone back to the 70's. Idiots. Really, this is what concerns America?

22 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:11:14am

All I can think of is, not this shit again.

23 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:12:19am

re: #22 Gus

All I can think of is, not this shit again.

And yet it's bubbling to the surface once more.

24 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:12:25am

March 2011:
Department of Justice Reports Escalation of Child Pornography Cases

Child pornography cases in the U.S. court system are up 330 percent nationwide from 1999, with law enforcement officials vigorously pursuing convictions to reign in the growing production of online child porn. The FBI investigates 2,500 new cases a year, and Department of Justice is hiring new prosecutors to tackle the increasing workload. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, more child pornography cases are prosecuted than child sex abuse cases, a sharp reversal from a decade ago.

25 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:12:27am

Since Reno Vs. ACLU, I think the only porn that can really be prosecuted is on DVDs or printed materials anyway. That was a unanimous decision-- well, two dissented in part, but only in part.

26 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:13:11am

And of course now the wingnut dudes are all going to pretend they're not into porn. Even though at least 1/2 of their sites includes a heavy dose of eye candy. That's part of the wingnut cred in order to prove you're a manly man.

27 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:14:59am

It takes a lot these days to shock me in RW politics..But this? Really? It's like its 1972 again or something..
Rick..Just let it out..Tell us what you really think..What is your heart telling you? Tell us and don't hold back
/Shit Rick..Even Rove said all your SoCon issues were settled back in the 60's..Talk about being old school

28 Interesting Times  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:15:04am

I don't see "child pornography" as a subset of regular porn at all - it's child abuse that's been photographed/videoed.

29 nines09  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:16:12am

Rick Santorum is a vile petty creature. What he says does not concern me as much as the people who cheer him on. That the GO/TP embraces this totalitarian says all I need to know about them.

30 Lidane  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:16:47am

re: #21 March Madness, way better than politics!

This election has gone back to the 70's. Idiots. Really, this is what concerns America?

This is what concerns the retrograde troglodytes that make up the social conservative base in the GOP. They're still fighting culture wars that they lost decades ago.

31 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:17:05am

Santorum must be getting his 'facts' about pornography prosecutions from uninformed sources:

July 2011:

Prosecution of pornography purveyors is required for porn to be found illegal. But even that definition is hard to corral, since no new charges on pornography trafficking have been brought by the federal Justice Department in more than two years, according to Patrick Trueman, president of Morality in Media.
[Link: www.catholicherald.com...]

32 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:17:52am

re: #29 Krathing Daeng

The US has always been pretty censorship-heavy in regards to sex. The internet has really broken that down in a large way, but comparing US TV to European TV, we're still massively prudish compared to them in what we actually show.

33 Stanghazi  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:19:28am

re: #24 jaunte

March 2011:
Department of Justice Reports Escalation of Child Pornography Cases

You know what? Santorum isn't concerned with child porn, just regular porn. That pretty much says it all.

34 nines09  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:20:08am

re: #32 Obdicut

The US has always been pretty censorship-heavy in regards to sex. The internet has really broken that down in a large way, but comparing US TV to European TV, we're still massively prudish compared to them in what we actually show.

His porn summation as far as I'm concerned is all bull shit to begin with. It's his mindless pandering and outright non stop insults to intelligence that get me. That and the people who want him to be King.

35 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:20:49am

re: #33 March Madness, way better than politics!

He's not concerned with accuracy, either.

36 Archangelus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:20:56am

re: #21 March Madness, way better than politics!

This election has gone back to the 70's. Idiots. Really, this is what concerns America?

1440s, judging by some of the BS coming from some in the Republican party. And no, it really isn't....

37 Interesting Times  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:21:35am

re: #32 Obdicut

The US has always been pretty censorship-heavy in regards to sex. The internet has really broken that down in a large way, but comparing US TV to European TV, we're still massively prudish compared to them in what we actually show.

John Stewart had a hilarious bit on this a while back, describing how violence (and graphic descriptions of sexual violence) are A-OK in US prime time, while showing a nipple is ZOMGoutrageous.

38 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:22:51am

C'mon, Ricky. Establish an exploratory committee for porn, write a report. The Meese Report is a tad bit outdated now. The public needs a new hit that is dirtier than what it is supposed to fight against.

39 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:23:50am

re: #37 Interesting Times

The classic is that it's easier to get a scene with a women being stabbed in the breast past the censors than it is a scene with a breast getting fondled.

And it's always easier to get rape than consensual sex on screen.

We're weird. Let's not get weirder.

40 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:24:49am

BTW:

The following people comprised the commission (nicknamed The Meese Commission):
Henry E. Hudson, chairman.
Diane D. Cusack
Park Elliott Dietz
James Dobson
Father Bruce Ritter
Frederick Schauer
Deanne Tilton-Durfee
Judith Becker
Ellen Levine

About Ritter:

A report prepared for Covenant House by Kroll and Associates and the law firm of Cravath, Swaine & Moore cited 15 cases of reported sexual contacts between Ritter and people sheltered at Covenant House or working there as volunteer counselors in what was called the Faith Community. The report did not specifically say all were men, but those who have come forward publicly with allegations about sexual activities have all been men. "The cumulative evidence discovered by Kroll in the course of its investigation that Father Ritter engaged in sexual activities with certain residents and made sexual advances toward certain members of the Faith Community is extensive," said the report, whose preparation was supervised by Robert J. McGuire, a former New York City Police Commissioner and now senior managing director of Kroll.[6]

41 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:24:58am

re: #35 jaunte

He's not concerned with accuracy, either.

Accuracy is for snobs.

//

42 Stanghazi  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:26:07am

I'm still cracking up that in this new wonderful age of the immediate information, our elections have regressed to birth control and porn.

The possibilities lost.

This is just a joke. And to see the American's playing along in this age of info, very disheartening.

43 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:28:52am

Pornography - Bill Hicks

Youtube Video
44 Targetpractice  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:29:43am

re: #42 March Madness, way better than politics!

I'm still cracking up that in this new wonderful age of the immediate information, our elections have regressed to birth control and porn.

The possibilities lost.

This is just a joke. And to see the American's playing along in this age of info, very disheartening.

Think it's more a case that, in this new age of instant information, the mask on the far-right's social agenda is being peeled back to reveal the Puritan beneath.

45 Stanghazi  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:29:43am

Pam Spaulding ‏ @pamspaulding

"Re-Nig" bumper sticker shop back online - minus the Re-Nig sticker. [Link: www.stumpysstickers.com...]

Ooh, they must have received some calls.

46 Achilles Tang  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:31:31am

I could only stand to listen to half of that, but since when is pornography illegal in this country? By mentioning harm to children, is he suggesting he means child pornography, which is normally dealt with locally in any case?

47 Ming  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:31:39am

I agree with the sentiments expressed in the comments here: disgust at Santorum's current line of attack. Nevertheless, while I dislike Santorum's viewpoints, I agree with something that Andrew Sullivan recently wrote, that Santorum is at least being clear (or relatively clear) about his positions. If the election is Obama versus Santorum, it will be a straightforward choice.

In contrast, if Romney is the nominee, no one now can possibly predict what positions he'll take in the general election, what issues he'll focus on, how he'll express his opinions. I have no doubt that this is precisely why many Republicans prefer Romney: they know he'll say whatever it takes to beat Obama.

I'm not saying Santorum is especially honest. This is a guy who rails against an out-of-control medical malpractice system, while his wife won a $500,000 lawsuit against her chiropractor because she "felt bad" after a back alignment. (The reward was ultimately reduced to $175,000.) But compared with Romney, there would be RELATIVELY more honesty in an Obama / Santorum matchup.

48 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:31:44am

re: #45 March Madness, way better than politics!

You think? // lol

49 bratwurst  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:32:06am
50 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:32:48am

re: #45 March Madness, way better than politics!

Pam Spaulding ‏ @pamspaulding

"Re-Nig" bumper sticker shop back online - minus the Re-Nig sticker. [Link: www.stumpysstickers.com...]

Ooh, they must have received some calls.

Any second now we'll get a lecture about being hypocrites about censoring these bumper stickers while opposing censorship for pornography.

//

51 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:34:44am

Ahhh. P0rn.. I recall the wild early days of the Internet..Before the Web..Just old school BBS's, IRC's and the *net channels and I was running DOS 3.3 or something with a 4 color monitor.. And you could download a picture of a Naked girl and it would take 10 minutes and go one slow line at a time till finally you had a grainy pic of a nekked girl.. For a young guy..That was cool stuff..You could try to print it from a Dot Matrix printer but it just never looked right..Everybody knows p0rn helped drive advancements in Technology and gaming a close 2nd.. :)
/

52 Archangelus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:36:31am

“In the information society, nobody thinks. We expected to banish paper, but we actually banished thought.” - Santorum is living proof that Crichton was right...

53 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:37:50am

Internet? I'm shocked there's porn in this establishment!

54 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:48:38am
Youtube Video
55 BongCrodny  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:49:15am

What's frightening to me isn't that Santorum is spouting this stuff; it's that somewhere around 40% of this country is going "Uh-huh, okay, that makes sense."

56 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:50:04am

re: #54 Varek Raith

[Embedded content]

Skip to 2:45
Damn. How do I link a vid with a specific start time?

57 Lidane  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:51:28am
Youtube Video
58 Four More Tears  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:52:43am

re: #54 Varek Raith

Showing Spyhunter really brings me back.

59 Stanghazi  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:53:04am

re: #56 Varek Raith

Skip to 2:45
Damn. How do I link a vid with a specific start time?

Watched. Hahaha

60 Four More Tears  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 11:59:36am

So I'm in Gamestop the other day and I see the box for Assassin's Creed 3. At first I did a double take. It takes place during the American Revolution. Seems like a bold move. Interesting, though. It makes me think of that Mel Gibson movie, The Patriot.

61 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:03:46pm

We're driving to Toronto on Wednesday. What classical music should I download for my listening entertainment?

62 Stanghazi  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:06:36pm

re: #61 Learned Mother of Zion

We're driving to Toronto on Wednesday. What classical music should I download for my listening entertainment?

I am absolutely no help. Have a good drive!

63 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:06:40pm

Downloaded Brahms Complete Symphonies for $3.29

64 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:07:26pm

re: #63 Learned Mother of Zion
That sounds good. Enjoy the music and the trip.

65 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:08:08pm

re: #61 Learned Mother of Zion

We're driving to Toronto on Wednesday. What classical music should I download for my listening entertainment?

Original instruments version of Beethoven symphonies. Very cool stuff.

66 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:08:46pm

re: #63 Learned Mother of Zion

Downloaded Brahms Complete Symphonies for $3.29

Good choice.

67 engineer cat  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:08:51pm

Rick Santorum Accuses Obama Administration of ‘Favoring Pornographers Over Children’

and to think that this guys seems like the best campaigner and the smartest of the current gop candidates

32 years after the reagan campaign released the new gop monster it's finally died and blundering around like a zombie

68 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:09:52pm
Youtube Video
re: #56 Varek Raith

Skip to 2:45
Damn. How do I link a vid with a specific start time?

Just add "&start=xxx" to the end of the URL, where 'xxx' is the number of seconds from the start of the clip.

69 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:10:21pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Original instruments version of Beethoven symphonies. Very cool stuff.

I already have the complete Beethoven symphonies by the London Symphony orchestra. I have some Bach and Telemann albums of original instruments, Beethoven is kinda modern--is there really a big difference?

70 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:10:49pm

Next download: should I get the Wagner or the Copland?

71 engineer cat  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:11:04pm

re: #61 Learned Mother of Zion

We're driving to Toronto on Wednesday. What classical music should I download for my listening entertainment?

English Music for Viols

3 hours of the most gorgeous baroque string music for my money

try listening to some of the sample tracks on the page and see if you like it...

72 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:11:17pm

Santorum bitching about "radical theocracies" puts way too much strain on my irony-meter.

And for a second there, I thought he was gonna spit.

73 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:11:38pm

re: #70 Learned Mother of Zion

Copland. Wagner can be a bit of a downer.

74 Surabaya Stew  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:13:12pm

re: #70 Learned Mother of Zion

Next download: should I get the Wagner or the Copland?

Copland for driving, happy and hopeful.

Wagner is for providing excitment; the last thing one needs while driving!

Just my 2 cents....

75 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:13:19pm

re: #69 Learned Mother of Zion

I already have the complete Beethoven symphonies by the London Symphony orchestra. I have some Bach and Telemann albums of original instruments, Beethoven is kinda modern--is there really a big difference?

Not really big. The differences are kind of subtle but I find the original instruments recording fascinating. The strings are mushier, and the horns are crunchier. Also the enterpretation will probably be different that what you're used to hearing. Tempo stay a bit steadier than what your used to.

76 engineer cat  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:13:44pm

re: #63 Learned Mother of Zion

Downloaded Brahms Complete Symphonies for $3.29

also, bach violin concertos are great - very upbeat and positive to keep you awake and in a good mood

i like it in the double concerto where they really get going and it kinda leaves the realm of violin playing and becomes some hot fiddlin'

77 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:14:18pm

re: #60 Meh.

I'm not entirely sold on the setting, but they have yet to disappoint with this series. Though I haven't played "Revelations" yet, so that one could have sucked donkey balls for all I know.

78 Four More Tears  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:18:28pm

re: #77 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

I'm not entirely sold on the setting, but they have yet to disappoint with this series. Though I haven't played "Revelations" yet, so that one could have sucked donkey balls for all I know.

I like the setting, but I'm not sold on it being in an Assassin's Creed game. It feels off. We shall see, though. Right now I'm contemplating whether or not to leave my house to snatch up ME3...

79 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:18:41pm

re: #70 Learned Mother of Zion

Next download: should I get the Wagner or the Copland?

I can't do that stuff on road trips..It puts me to sleep..I figure I'll drive off the road into a Hooters at 90 mph and kill 2 horny men..
I like high energy stuff..I'll start the trip with Calling all Angels by Train turned up to 9 and start from there..I'll do whole sets of songs I like to sing with..

80 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:23:42pm

re: #61 Learned Mother of Zion

We're driving to Toronto on Wednesday. What classical music should I download for my listening entertainment?

Bach. Schweigt stille, plaudert nicht (Be still, stop chattering) (aka The Coffee Cantata) set in a coffee shop is fun. The 6 Brandenburgs are always good because of their sheer diversity. The Goldberg Variations.

Haydn. Some of his early symphonies are quite good and rarely heard these days. Any of his string quartets. (if I ever get a time machine, I'm heading to Vienna back then ...

First Violin: Haydn
Second Violin: Baron Dittersdorf
Violoncello: Vanhal
Viola: Mozart.)

I've been on a Faure kick of late too.

81 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:24:50pm

re: #70 Learned Mother of Zion

Next download: should I get the Wagner or the Copland?

Copland!

82 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:28:50pm

re: #80 William Barnett-Lewis

Already on my playlist:
Bach (Brandenburgs, violin concertos)
Beethoven (complete symphonies)
William Boyce (English Baroque composer)
Mozart symphonies 25-41
Haydn symphonies (a whole bunch, 4CDs worth)
Handel fireworks/water music
Brahms complete symphonies (just downloaded)
Telemann on original instruments (except some tracks r live recordings, you hear applause & people coughing)

That's way more than it's possible to listen to on a short trip to Toronto. On the way to NYC and back we played the complete Beethoven cycle about 6 times.

83 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:30:31pm

re: #80 William Barnett-Lewis

Bach. Schweigt stille, plaudert nicht (Be still, stop chattering) (aka The Coffee Cantata) set in a coffee shop is fun. The 6 Brandenburgs are always good because of their sheer diversity. The Goldberg Variations.

Haydn. Some of his early symphonies are quite good and rarely heard these days. Any of his string quartets. (if I ever get a time machine, I'm heading to Vienna back then ...

First Violin: Haydn
Second Violin: Baron Dittersdorf
Violoncello: Vanhal
Viola: Mozart.)

I've been on a Faure kick of late too.

Was Haydn a mentor of Mozart or a contemporary? Their works sound very similar. Also, Beethoven symphonies 1-2 sound very Mozarty.

84 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:33:08pm

re: #78 Meh.

I like the setting, but I'm not sold on it being in an Assassin's Creed game. It feels off. We shall see, though. Right now I'm contemplating whether or not to leave my house to snatch up ME3...

I'm waiting for the "Super Awesome, Xtreme, Kitchen Sink, Gold Edition" that bundles all three games for just $19.99.
/

85 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:34:31pm

re: #82 Learned Mother of Zion

Already on my playlist:
Bach (Brandenburgs, violin concertos)
Beethoven (complete symphonies)
William Boyce (English Baroque composer)
Mozart symphonies 25-41
Haydn symphonies (a whole bunch, 4CDs worth)
Handel fireworks/water music
Brahms complete symphonies (just downloaded)
Telemann on original instruments (except some tracks r live recordings, you hear applause & people coughing)

That's way more than it's possible to listen to on a short trip to Toronto. On the way to NYC and back we played the complete Beethoven cycle about 6 times.

Lots of good stuff there. Teleman is under appreciated these days. Some Vivaldi would fit well with what you have listed. Felix Mendelssohn is always fun too.

Have a great trip!

86 engineer cat  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:35:21pm

re: #83 Learned Mother of Zion

Was Haydn a mentor of Mozart or a contemporary? Their works sound very similar. Also, Beethoven symphonies 1-2 sound very Mozarty.

to musicians of mozart's age he was known as papa haydn. haydn tried to convince mozart to stop trying to compete in the cutthroat world of vienna and to come with him to england and get an easy gig and rake in the dough

beethoven was of a younger generation than mozart but was emulating him in his early period

87 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:39:38pm

re: #83 Learned Mother of Zion

Was Haydn a mentor of Mozart or a contemporary? Their works sound very similar. Also, Beethoven symphonies 1-2 sound very Mozarty.

"Papa" Haydn was old enough to be his father and outlived his friend. They met after both were well known artists though he essentially taught Mozart how to write string quartets. Haydn had pretty much invented the "modern" idea of the symphony with his 104 of them so there's little surprise that Mozart's were very like Haydn or that even Beethoven needed some time to throw off his teacher's influence. Once he stared the Eroica, though, the symphony was never quite the same ;)

88 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:41:46pm

Really O.T.

Darth Vader In A Kilt On A Unicycle Playing Bagpipes


Okay...??

89 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:42:02pm

re: #85 William Barnett-Lewis

Lots of good stuff there. Teleman is under appreciated these days. Some Vivaldi would fit well with what you have listed. Felix Mendelssohn is always fun too.

Have a great trip!

Oh yeah, got Vivaldi too.

90 Four More Tears  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:45:10pm

re: #84 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

I'm waiting for the "Super Awesome, Xtreme, Kitchen Sink, Gold Edition" that bundles all three games for just $19.99.
/

Okay, but all the DLC will still add up to at least $100. :P

91 Targetpractice  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:48:46pm

re: #78 Meh.

I like the setting, but I'm not sold on it being in an Assassin's Creed game. It feels off. We shall see, though. Right now I'm contemplating whether or not to leave my house to snatch up ME3...

I'm still trying to work myself up to finishing one of my ME2 games so that the ME3 I got on opening day will be worth it.

92 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:49:04pm

re: #88 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Alright, 'fess up. Who broke the Seventh Seal?

93 engineer cat  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:50:55pm

haydn was the first great composer of what we now call the high classical style, originally the 'style gallant' - after the baroque and before the romantic - which was current roughly 1750 - 1820

it seems the baroque style was beginning to sound old fashioned and over-elaborate and people were asking why high class music couldn't be more like ordinary songs with their easily recognizable melodies and simple accompaniments. listen to how mozart will state the harmony as simple block chords played four or eight to the bar in many pieces...

beethoven in his early period is still within this style, but forged ahead and created the more unbounded, improvisatory, and emotional 'romantic' style that was to dominate the 19th century

94 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:52:23pm

re: #90 Meh.

Heh. Precisely why I waited for "FO3 GOTY Edition". I got ~$110 worth of gaming for ~$20.

95 Targetpractice  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:55:25pm

re: #94 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Heh. Precisely why I waited for "FO3 GOTY Edition". I got ~$110 worth of gaming for ~$20.

Yeah, but that's Bethesda, who actually seem somewhat generous when it comes to their games. EA and Bioware bleed you dry from the word "go." The original Mass Effect came out in '07 and you still have to pay for the DLCs separate.

96 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:58:22pm

re: #95 Targetpractice

Oh, don't get me started on Biowhere. Do. Not. Want.

97 Targetpractice  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:59:55pm

re: #96 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Oh, don't get me started on Biowhere. Do. Not. Want.

Yeah, but how much of Bioware's bullshit is post-EA takeover?

98 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:00:06pm

If I had the choice tomorrow of meeting a child for lunch or meeting a pornographer, I'd choose the pornographer. I guess that means I, too "favor pornographers over children."

(I also agree that purposely mixing the words "children" and "pornography" in the same sentence is to plant the concept of "child pornography" in people's minds.)

99 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:02:34pm

re: #97 Targetpractice

Yeah, but how much of Bioware's bullshit is post-EA takeover?

I've hated them since the IPLY days.

/glittering gem

100 Targetpractice  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:05:17pm

re: #99 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

I've hated them since the IPLY days.

/glittering gem

Ah, I see. Yeah, I've got no love for EA whatsoever, which tends to extend to the companies that it gobbles up and then imposes its will upon.

101 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:07:45pm

re: #100 Targetpractice

No love for EA from me, but I actually meant that I've hated Biowhat since the IPLY days.

/glittering gem

102 Targetpractice  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:11:39pm

re: #101 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

No love for EA from me, but I actually meant that I've hated Biowhat since the IPLY days.

/glittering gem

Which I agreed with.

103 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:13:45pm

re: #102 Targetpractice

I should stop cutting my hair so short. So much goes right over my head.

104 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:25:42pm

Okay this is just weird. I'm getting some HD footage of storm clouds blowing by. I'm just kinda monitoring the camera as it runs. Then the face recognition bracket shows up on the display screen. I take a close look and sure enough a "face" in the clouds for a bit, maybe 30 seconds. LOL. The software got spoofed by real clouds.

105 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:31:58pm

re: #104 Daniel Ballard

Face detection software can get thrown off by the darndest things.

106 efuseakay  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:51:19pm

It's all because of his scary foreign-sounding name and dark skin. There. I said it.

107 Mattand  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:25:10pm

On topic: calling the guy who ordered Bin Laden killed an "appeaser of evil? Logic: you're doing it wrong.

Off topic: I can get Mass Effect 2 fairly cheap right now from Origin. How much of a time sink are these games? Skyrim-level time sink?

108 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:28:51pm

re: #107 mattand

Depends on whether you do all the sidequests or not, much like Skyrim. If you want the good endings, you have to do the companion sidequests.

109 JamesS  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 5:14:37pm

"ranting crazily that the Justice Department favours pornographers"

Yes, damn them and that pesky "first amendment". Everyone knows the Bill of Rights doesn't count when it's For The Children (TM)!

"On topic: calling the guy who ordered Bin Laden killed an "appeaser of evil? Logic: you're doing it wrong."

You have a point, but when the message came up the chain of command "we've found bin Laden, kill him? (Y/n)" there weren't too many options; look at the flack Clinton took for not seizing a chance to capture/kill him back before 9/11!

110 labman57  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 6:46:06pm

Santorum's world seems to revolve around the concept of religious salvation, and he apparently feels an obligation to save the nation from itself, i.e., rather than using the pulpit to proselytize, he wishes to impose his religious values and mores onto the rest of society via public policy.


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