Right Wing Blogger Calls for Police to Gun Down Occupy Protesters

And he calls himself a Christian
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Last night, police moved into New York’s Zuccotti Park to clear out the Occupy Wall Street protesters, and by all accounts they weren’t exactly gentle about it.

But right wing neo-Confederate racist Robert Stacy McCain didn’t get enough blood.

Today he’s so excited you can almost see the slobber on his keyboard, as he wishes the police would simply gun down the protesters.

That’s the way to do it, NYPD! Give ‘em a sweet taste of the nightstick!

But doesn’t NYPD have tasers? Jack ‘em up with some high voltage!

Billy clubs, tasers, pepper spray, whatever it takes to keep Marxist scum off the streets of New York, do it. These whiny deadbeats are a menace to public safety — scabies! tuberculosis! rape! — and if they refuse to disperse peacefully, they have thereby declared war on the law-abiding citizens of New York, whom the NYPD are sworn to protect and serve.

There are reports that a handful of Occupy protesters were hospitalized with injuries. Unfortunately, it was only a handful, and none of those injuries were wounds from 9mm pistols or 12-gauge riot guns.

UPDATE at 3/18/12 3:35:12 pm

McCain responds to this post:

UPDATE at 3/18/12 3:36:51 pm

And on his sick website, McCain continues by claiming that I “sided with Occupy against the NYPD,” in a totally incoherent rant about the “Red Menace:” Humor-Deficient Charles Johnson Sides With #Occupy Movement vs. NYPD : The Other McCain

UPDATE at 3/18/12 4:40:45 pm

A thoughtful tweet from McCain, answering my criticisms:

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378 comments
1 erik_t  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:56:27pm

Why not dogs and fire hoses, Robert? Would that tickle your violence-bone?

2 Targetpractice  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:56:39pm

You ever notice that the ones the quickest to scream "Marxist!" at their enemies are also the folks who would make Stalin smile at their bloodlust?

3 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:59:06pm

This is why I painted him as a brownshirt.

4 Lidane  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 12:59:08pm

Everyone knows that Occupy are evil, Marxist trust fund hippies that get all rapey-stabby. We're just in favor of restoring law and order.

Why do you hate law and order?

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5 engineer cat  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:04:04pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

You ever notice that the ones the quickest to scream "Marxist!" at their enemies are also the folks who would make Stalin smile at their bloodlust?

they would approve of stalin's authoritarianism and strong arm tactics except they fear that it was tainted with evil notions of cooperation and compassion from communist theory

6 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:04:20pm

How large is the market for right wing blowhards? Is this an attempt to siphon off a little of that shrinking Limbaugh audience?

7 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:04:21pm

The private owners of Zuccotti park have shown remarkable patience in clearing out the "Occupiers." And I think it was the correct strategy. I don't find much to like about the "Occupy" movement, but ignoring them is a better strategy than violently confronting them.

8 Lidane  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:07:21pm

re: #1 erik_t

Why not dogs and fire hoses, Robert? Would that tickle your violence-bone?

He wants live ammo and grenades. You know, to restore order.

9 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:07:36pm

Not only that, he has a history of it:

[Link: theothermccain.com...]

Permit me to praise you, courageous officers of the New York Police Department, for your admirable restraint in dealing with the smelly Marxist scum currently infesting your city.
While I haven’t previously bothered to grant any underserved publicity to the vermin involved in the “Occupy Wall Street” protests, I did notice some accusations of “police brutality.” For a few minutes Sunday, I wrestled with a sudden and nearly overwhelming urge to write an article recommending Medals of Meritorious Service for any NYPD officer who billy-clubbed or pepper-sprayed one of those protest pests.[...]

However, there is only so much that can be accomplished by psychological counseling, and not even the iron discipline of the NYPD can forever suppress the basic instinct that will, I know, finally unleash the pent-up fury the hard-working men and women of your force must feel toward the “Occupy Wall Street” protesters. Whether the result is merely a few hippie skulls busted by baton-wielding officers or, as I greatly fear, something more like the Ohio National Guard’s historic 1970 victory over Viet Cong sympathizers at Kent State, I just want to say to the officers involved in the unfortunate incident: We understand. We care. We’re here for you.

[Link: theothermccain.com...]

They’re the kind of commie scum who give commie scum a bad name and my trademark “hypothetical atrocity” rhetoric was intended to signify nothing other than my bottomless well of contempt for such people. Therefore if I were the commander of the NYPD riot squad, my orders would be to open fire and shoot to kill. We’d make Kent State look like a Sunday school picnic. The brutality would be something more on the scale of Guernica, complete with Predator drone airstrikes.

10 Targetpractice  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:09:46pm

re: #9 Tourquoise Supremacist

Not only that, he has a history of it:

[Link: theothermccain.com...]

[Link: theothermccain.com...]

A truly foul little man.

11 Kronocide  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:10:25pm

I'm so happy to see this vile Brownshirt Fantasy exposed for what it is.

At this point it is figuratively and practically impossible to Godwin this thread. McCain has pretty much Godwin'ed himself in perpetuity.

12 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:10:44pm

re: #10 Targetpractice

He linked to one of those as his defense, if you can believe it. "It was a joke!"

13 Lidane  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:11:28pm

Change a few words around and RS McCain sounds awfully familiar:

While I haven’t previously bothered to grant any underserved publicity to the vermin involved in the “civil rights” protests, I did notice some accusations of “police brutality.” For a few minutes Sunday, I wrestled with a sudden and nearly overwhelming urge to write an article recommending Medals of Meritorious Service for any Birmingham officer who billy-clubbed or set police dogs on one of those protest pests.[...]

However, there is only so much that can be accomplished by psychological counseling, and not even the iron discipline of the Birmingham Police Department can forever suppress the basic instinct that will, I know, finally unleash the pent-up fury the hard-working men and women of your force must feel toward the “civil rights” protesters.

14 Kragar  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:13:24pm

What a dick.

15 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:13:48pm

re: #14 Kragar

Satire!

16 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:16:41pm

re: #15 jaunte

Satire!

It's eminently predictable:

17 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:17:49pm
Last night, police moved into New York’s Zuccotti Park to clear out the Occupy Wall Street protesters, and by all accounts they weren’t exactly gentle about it.

Here's an occupier on Iranian state TV telling of the brutality of American police
NYPD 'clubbed' Occupy protesters (video)

Occupy protesters faced a violent crackdown by the NYPD while peacefully marching in lower Manhattan on Saturday.

Mark Bray, a member of “Occupy Wall Street” in New York told Press TV’s U.S. Desk that police arrested “at least 40 people” during their rally. “Members of the movement were clubbed by the police without any reason,” he said.

“There were broken bones and blood, so it was a very brutal removal of the movement”, Bray added.

18 Kragar  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:18:06pm

re: #16 jaunte

It's eminently predictable:

I'd like to see McCain gangbanged by Orangutangs... IT WAS A JOKE!


Nope, doesn't really work.

19 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:19:42pm

Geez, all I do is drop an asteroid on a major population center and all I get is crap about how evil and stuff I am.
Can't you all take a freaking joke?!?!
Humorless lefties.
/wingnut

20 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:20:40pm

re: #7 ReamWorks, SKG (fka Reuven)

The private owners of Zuccotti park have shown remarkable patience in clearing out the "Occupiers." And I think it was the correct strategy. I don't find much to like about the "Occupy" movement, but ignoring them is a better strategy than violently confronting them.

True but unfortunately the police have a job to do and these protesters aren't exactly peaceful. these scuffles are dangerous and this is how people get hurt. It's dangerous for the police as well as the protesters.

21 researchok  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:21:07pm

You know they are going to take the 'gun down' remark out of context.

22 Kragar  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:22:14pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

True but unfortunately the police have a job to do and these protesters aren't exactly peaceful. these scuffles are dangerous and this is how people get hurt. It's dangerous for the police as well as the protesters.

There is a difference between understanding the police have a difficult job to do and wishing the police would massacre your fellow citizens because you disagree with them.

23 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:22:34pm

"...if I were the commander of the NYPD riot squad, my orders would be to open fire and shoot to kill.
...
Just kidding, you humorless bastards."

24 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:22:49pm

Know what amazes me about people posting disgusting vile glee about seeing others they deem as "the enemy" being hurt??

Sadly,, nothing!

25 engineer cat  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:24:40pm

unleash the pent-up fury

he could of course unleash his own "pent-up fury" i'm sure but then there would be the chance he might get hurted and we can't have that

26 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:26:37pm

I checked RSM's post and he has some videos.

Youtube Video

You' have to click over to youtube and watch in full screen but the woman does indeed hit the cop in the face before getting arrested.
The video appears to have been filmed by occupiers, not wingnuts (not that it should make any difference)
You just can't assault police like this. Nobody can.
27 Lidane  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:26:49pm

re: #22 Kragar

Pfft. We're talking about Occupy. They're just a bunch of dirty Marxist hippies anway.

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28 Kronocide  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:27:26pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

True but unfortunately the police have a job to do and these protesters aren't exactly peaceful. these scuffles are dangerous and this is how people get hurt. It's dangerous for the police as well as the protesters.

It's a lot more dangerous for the protesters.... like duh.

I'm getting a big 'oh well' vibe from you because it seems that OWS is too Rapey Stabby so they deserve it, to some degree.

29 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:27:35pm

re: #22 Kragar

There is a difference between understanding the police have a difficult job to do and wishing the police would massacre your fellow citizens because you disagree with them.

Agreed. Mccain's comment if indefensible and way over the line even for me.

30 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:28:11pm

re: #28 Kronocide

It's a lot more dangerous for the protesters... like duh.

I'm getting a big 'oh well' vibe from you because it seems that OWS is too Rapey Stabby so they deserve it, to some degree.

See the video on #26.

31 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:30:09pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

I checked RSM's post and he has some videos.

[Embedded content]
You' have to click over to youtube and watch in full screen but the woman does indeed hit the cop in the face before getting arrested.
The video appears to have been filmed by occupiers, not wingnuts (not that it should make any difference)
You just can't assault police like this. Nobody can.

Sounds like a lot of work!!!
//

32 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:30:14pm

Here's the occupy version
Police brutality at #OWS ends with woman taken to hospital

The videos above apparently show police charging #ows activist Cecily McMillian. She left Liberty Plaza in an ambulance. Initial reports from the scene indicate that police broke her ribs; people on the scene reported via Twitter and livestream that she was convulsing in police custody before being loaded into the ambulance.

33 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:30:34pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

not that it should make any difference

Agreed, though you sang a different song a year ago ;)

You just can't assault police like this. Nobody can.

No idea if it was a cop, but agreed, just as police can't assault peaceful folks, and they sometimes do.

34 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:30:53pm

I wonder if McCain would feel differently if it were a tea party protest that resulted in busted skulls among the protestors?

35 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:31:48pm

re: #31 sattv4u2

Sounds like a lot of work!!!
//

Wow, she really clocks him.

36 Lidane  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:32:36pm

re: #34 _RememberTonyC

I wonder if McCain would feel differently if it were a tea party protest that resulted in busted skulls among the protestors?

The only people who would get busted skulls at a tea party rally are the liberal plants sent there to make good, decent Americans look bad.

Why do you hate good, decent Americans?

37 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:32:44pm

re: #35 Killgore Trout

Wow, she really clocks him.

It must have been the right TIME !!
/

38 Kronocide  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:32:50pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

See the video on #26.

I watched. Is that supposed to make the case for people getting the batons in masse, as OWS is saying?

39 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:34:54pm

re: #38 Kronocide

I watched. Is that supposed to make the case for people getting the batons in masse, as OWS is saying?

That should tell you that they are dishonest and lying about much of it. I'm sure there have been police misjudgements and mistake (see Tony Bologna) but much it it is explained when we see video of protesters serious assaulting police video while screaming about police brutality.

40 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:37:01pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

In that case we can chalk up OWS misjudgments and mistakes re: the police to the reaction to the police's misjudgments and mistakes re: OWS.

41 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:37:26pm

It really sucks to be RS McCain. The inside of that head is in a hell of his own making. Seething rot. I don't ever want to be able to understand violent hate like that.

42 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:38:33pm

re: #41 Daniel Ballard

He is a legend in his own mind. //

43 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:40:17pm

re: #41 Daniel Ballard

It really sucks to be RS McCain. The inside of that head is in a hell of his own making. Seething rot. I don't ever want to be able to understand violent hate like that.

OTOH,,, it's good to know that it's there, just for awareness

44 Digital Display  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:40:37pm

I expect our professional Police forces to conduct themselves as pros. 95% of the time they do..I really respect them.. I've done a drive with the Speedway Police..I couldn't be a cop..You have to be a special person..one night was all I could handle..My heart rate didn't slow down for hours..I posted about it..It was an awesome night..We pulled over a known gang member and the computer is flashing yellow and all this data is pouring in..A alarm is sounding off..
Alan tells me
, just stay here as he jumps out the car.. Really no shit Alan...

45 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:43:01pm

re: #44 HoosierHoops

Alan tell me
, just stay here as he jumps out the car.. Really no shit Alan.

You didn't have the urge to jump out and do a Gomer Pyle-like "Citizens arrest,, citizens arrest" !?!?!
//

46 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:44:51pm

Robert would have enjoyed Tienanmen square back in '89.

47 Kronocide  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:46:33pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

That should tell you that they are dishonest and lying about much of it. I'm sure there have been police misjudgements and mistake (see Tony Bologna) but much it it is explained when we see video of protesters serious assaulting police video while screaming about police brutality.

I expect some of them to be dishonest and lying at any time. It's a group of emotionally invested people acting out in protest. For some, the ends will justify the means. Not excusing it, but it's understandable.

But it sure seems like the woman taking a swat at a cop pretty much justifies the rest of the response according to you. It also seems to validate that the rest of OWS are by default lying as well.

48 Digital Display  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:46:50pm

re: #45 sattv4u2

Alan tell me
, just stay here as he jumps out the car.. Really no shit Alan.

You didn't have the urge to jump out and do a Gomer Pyle-like "Citizens arrest,, citizens arrest" !?!?!
//

Nope! It was an exciting stop..You sign a waiver and wear a vest to drive around with a cop on a Friday night..It's something I've always wanted to do
I did multiple posts about it.. I could not be a cop..

49 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:47:16pm

re: #46 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

Robert would have enjoyed Tienanmen square back in '89.

Bad analogy (imho)
I'm guessing like most in the west even RSM sided with the protesters against a Communist regime

50 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:48:41pm

re: #40 Tourquoise Supremacist

In that case we can chalk up OWS misjudgments and mistakes re: the police to the reaction to the police's misjudgments and mistakes re: OWS.

It should be easy to comndemn something as simple as assaulting a police officer like that scene in the video. It's morally reprehensible. Of course the key difference is the police are authorized to arrest people. They are also authorized to use pepperspray, battons, etc within certain guidelines. It's their job. Mistakes can happen. Poor judgement leads to mistakes. There are no circumstances where protesters are legally authorized to punch the police in the face.
You can excuse it or support it if you want to but it's morally and legally indefensible.

51 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:49:01pm

re: #46 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

Burke C. Dabney likes to be on the side that's winning.

52 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:49:57pm

re: #48 HoosierHoops

Nope! It was an exciting stop..You sign a waiver a wear a vest a drive around with a cop on a Friday night..It's something I've always wanted to do
I did multiple posts about it.. I could not be a cop..

Yes you could

Start slowly,,, work up to it

Start as a crossing guard,,, or a hall monitor!!
//

53 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:50:50pm

...

54 Kronocide  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:51:05pm

re: #50 Killgore Trout

You can excuse it or support it if you want to but it's morally and legally indefensible.

Who the fuck is defending a woman punching a cop in the face?

55 McSpiff  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:52:50pm

re: #54 Kronocide

Who the fuck is defending a woman punching a cop in the face?

They see me trollin.. they hatin...

56 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:52:52pm

re: #50 Killgore Trout

It should be easy to comndemn something as simple as assaulting a police officer like that scene in the video.

Heh. You're the last person who will be telling me that.

57 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:52:53pm

re: #47 Kronocide

But it sure seems like the woman taking a swat at a cop pretty much justifies the rest of the response according to you. It also seems to validate that the rest of OWS are by default lying as well.

The response to her assault seems appropriate to me.
Remember when they guy tried to stuff himself under the police scooter and pretend they were running him over?
Police brutality is a serious crime. It's a shitty thing to lie about.

58 McSpiff  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:53:59pm

re: #57 Killgore Trout

I'm shocked that you can still admit police brutality is a real thing.

59 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:53:59pm

re: #56 Tourquoise Supremacist

Heh. You're the last person who will be telling me that.

Heh.

60 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:54:26pm

re: #50 Killgore Trout

....You can excuse it or support it if you want to but it's morally and legally indefensible.

This is quite simply false. There are many cases where it would be completely morally defensible.

61 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:56:57pm

re: #60 Gus

This is quite simply false. There are many cases where it would be completely morally defensible.

You'd really have to stretch to find a scenario where it would be appropriate. Regardless I really doubt it applies in this case, the video is pretty clear that her assault was completely unprovoked.

62 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:57:13pm

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Heh.

You can "heh" all you want, but you're being trollish and hypocritical.

But just for fun: suppose the ribs were broken. I'm not saying that they were, but as a hypothetical. In such a case would you unequivocally condemn the police perpetrator who would do this to a girl in exchange for a slap?

63 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:57:20pm

re: #49 sattv4u2

Bad analogy (imho)
I'm guessing like most in the west even RSM sided with the protesters against a Communist regime

But it was ok because they were (and are) such good business partners and their labor practices recall the antebellum south, a subject near and dear to Robert.
/

64 JamesWI  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:57:47pm

Changing a few words from yesterday's troll-fest:

I can't believe I'm the only one who can condemn rape police brutality regardless of the political persuasions of the victims. The next time we hear a story about rapepolice brutality , I guarantee I can predict some people'sKillgore's reaction based on the politics of the victim.

65 McSpiff  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:59:04pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

You'd really have to stretch to find a scenario where it would be appropriate. Regardless I really doubt it applies in this case, the video is pretty clear that her assault was completely unprovoked.

So defending oneself from police brutality is immoral in your opinion? Lay back and think of 'Merica...

66 Kronocide  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:59:20pm

re: #57 Killgore Trout

The response to her assault seems appropriate to me.
Remember when they guy tried to stuff himself under the police scooter and pretend they were running him over?
Police brutality is a serious crime. It's a shitty thing to lie about.

Of course it's a shitty thing to lie about it. It appears that you find it just to get beat with a baton for taking a swipe at a cop. Whether the cop needed to utilize the baton to gain control of the situation or not.

It also appears that you find it just if a woman takes a swipe at a cop, some cohorts lie about it, and a whole gaggle of them get beat up by cops, that's justified.

I find that pretty shitty too.

67 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 1:59:43pm

re: #49 sattv4u2

Bad analogy (imho)
I'm guessing like most in the west even RSM sided with the protesters against a Communist regime

Authoritarians tend to side with the authority regardless of ideological bent. So yes. A Chinese version of RS McCain would have done the same.

68 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:00:19pm

re: #60 Gus

This is quite simply false. There are many cases where it would be completely morally defensible.

I thought about arguing the point but then I remembered that one should never feed the trolls.

69 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:00:59pm

Jeff Sharlet tweeted a video in which two policemen bash a protester's head into a plate glass window, cracking the glass. McCain can save it to his hard drive and watch it again and again.
I think one of the problem the police department has in dealing with the OWS protests is that the leadership want to have the confrontations for the cameras and the police are all-too-willing participants. They're too easily manipulated into dealing out punishment at the time of arrest.

70 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:02:17pm

re: #62 Tourquoise Supremacist

You can "heh" all you want, but you're being trollish and hypocritical.

But just for fun: suppose the ribs were broken. I'm not saying that they were, but as a hypothetical. In such a case would you unequivocally condemn the police perpetrator who would do this to a girl in exchange for a slap?

It was more than a slap. It was a pretty solid elbow to the face. It also appears she resisted arrest. I wouldn't condemn the police if she was accidentally injured. If there's some evidence that they intentionally injured her there should be a trial.

71 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:03:18pm

re: #68 William Barnett-Lewis

I thought about arguing the point but then I remember one should never feed the trolls.

My next question was going to be something regarding lying to the police and the "moral defensibility" therein. Throw in Anne Frank for good measure.

72 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:04:05pm

If we're asked to "condemn" something that is "so easy to condemn", the assumption is that we support it in the first place. This assumption is insulting. Next thing that will be alleged is that we support rape, etc.

ohwait

73 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:05:39pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

You don't accidentally break ribs of someone.

74 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:06:02pm

Lol.

75 Achilles Tang  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:07:11pm

re: #73 Tourquoise Supremacist

You don't accidentally break ribs of someone.

Not hard for me to imagine. Just saying..

76 Altermite  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:08:08pm

re: #73 Tourquoise Supremacist

You don't accidentally break ribs of someone.

Uh, yes you can. I've seen it happen.

77 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:08:59pm

re: #73 Tourquoise Supremacist

You don't accidentally break ribs of someone.

huh?? I can think of dozens of ways it can/ does happen

78 JamesWI  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:10:06pm

re: #72 Tourquoise Supremacist

If we're asked to "condemn" something that is "so easy to condemn", the assumption is that we support it in the first place. This assumption is insulting. Next thing that will be alleged is that we support rape, etc.

ohwait

You must have missed yesterday's spectacular trolling. Apparently, Killgore is the only person here who doesn't approve of rape. He's such a noble guy!

79 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:10:12pm

Funny how this thread turned into an anti-OWS thing.
Let's just ignore RSM, it's those damn hippies who are to blame!
Funny.

80 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:10:27pm

re: #75 Blue Spot Vlamingii Tang

re: #76 Altermite

re: #77 sattv4u2

You are all wrong. Police brutality is the only way it can happen!!
//

81 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:10:53pm

re: #80 We are ANONYMOUS, WE ARE LEGION, we are arrested

re: #76 Altermite

re: #77 sattv4u2

You are all wrong. Police brutality is the only way it can happen!!
//

Accidentally, of course!!!
/

82 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:11:12pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

It was more than a slap. It was a pretty solid elbow to the face. It also appears she resisted arrest. I wouldn't condemn the police if she was accidentally injured. If there's some evidence that they intentionally injured her there should be a trial.

Hey. Maybe she "snapped." At least she wasn't on the battlefield and "snapped" and ended up murdering women, children and men in cold blood.

83 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:11:27pm

re: #72 Tourquoise Supremacist

If we're asked to "condemn" something that is "so easy to condemn", the assumption is that we support it in the first place. This assumption is insulting. Next thing that will be alleged is that we support rape, etc.

ohwait

Yes, I still find it morally reprehensible the the level of outrage depends on the politics of rapist or the victim. Posts about occupy related rapes get downdings, Tea Party rapes get updings.

84 Kragar  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:11:46pm

Romney admits he doesn't understand the global oil market, lies about US oil production.

Mitt Romney escalated Republican attacks on President Barack Obama's energy policies Sunday, calling for the firing or resignations of what he labeled the "gas hike trio" of top energy and environment officials in the administration.

The Republican presidential hopeful's remarks on "Fox News Sunday" illustrated a GOP strategy to target Obama for rising gas prices as part of a campaign narrative that depicts the president as stifling U.S. production in order to boost alternative energy sources.

85 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:11:58pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Yes, I still find it morally reprehensible the the level of outrage depends on the politics of rapist or the victim. Posts about occupy related rapes get downdings, Tea Party rapes get updings.

Bullshit.

86 Kragar  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:12:29pm

re: #80 We are ANONYMOUS, WE ARE LEGION, we are arrested

re: #76 Altermite

re: #77 sattv4u2

You are all wrong. Police brutality is the only way it can happen!!
//

PS: Steel cannot melt.

87 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:12:35pm

Lolx2

88 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:12:51pm

re: #85 Gus

Bullshit.

Updings!

89 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:13:03pm

re: #86 Kragar

PS: Steel cannot melt.

It did that one time!!!
//

90 Interesting Times  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:13:18pm

Re the "OMG leftist thinktank conspiracy!" crap:

91 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:13:26pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

Updings!

You're on one seriously weird head trip.

92 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:13:32pm

re: #86 Kragar

PS: Steel cannot melt.

Rosie,,, you've lost weight !!

93 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:13:34pm

re: #86 Kragar

PS: Steel cannot melt.

Thermite paint!

94 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:14:19pm

Let the permanent record reflect that I am opposed to rape and assault, though I might miss some up-and-down-dinging.

95 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:15:06pm

re: #94 jaunte

Let the permanent record reflect that I am opposed to rape and assault, though I might miss some up-and-down-dinging.

That's not up to you to decide anymore.
That's KT's job.
Or something.
Lolx3

96 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:15:40pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Yes, I still find it morally reprehensible the the level of outrage depends on the politics of rapist or the victim. Posts about occupy related rapes get downdings, Tea Party rapes get updings.

Yeah, well, the issue is not your grudges, but that you come here and out of the blue expect people to condemn what no one has endorsed in the first place. Then you count the downdings.

97 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:15:54pm

re: #94 jaunte

Let the permanent record reflect that I am opposed to rape and assault, though I might miss some up-and-down-dinging.

Me too!! If you don't upding this comment you love rape and assault!!
//

98 Kragar  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:16:13pm

re: #94 jaunte

Let the permanent record reflect that I am opposed to rape and assault, though I might miss some up-and-down-dinging.

Missed some?
Unacceptable, Mr Rapey McStabenmeister.

99 Lidane  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:16:15pm

re: #79 Varek Raith

Seriously.

Never mind RSM and his violent rhetoric, which could easily have been said by the anti-civil rights crowd back in the 60's. It's all about OWS instead.

Forget the fact that a guy has called for violence against Americans because they have different politics from him. Let's just talk about how bad those Marxist trust fund hippies are. WTF.

100 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:16:22pm

re: #94 jaunte

Let the permanent record reflect that I am opposed to rape and assault, though I might miss some up-and-down-dinging.

Uptwinkles!

101 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:16:33pm

re: #91 Gus

You're on one seriously weird head trip.

Slow motion flounce. Rather reminds me of how Cato did it.

102 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:16:40pm

Jazz hands!

103 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:16:49pm

Gee, I have a long list of things many here have not yet condemned.
They must obviously support them.

104 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:17:17pm

re: #96 Tourquoise Supremacist

Yeah, well, the issue is not your grudges, but that you come here and out of the blue expect people to condemn what no one has endorsed in the first place. Then you count the downdings.

You can add that to you file of bookmarks on me.It might come in useful later.

105 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:17:48pm

re: #103 Varek Raith

Gee, I have a long list of things many here have not yet condemned.
They must obviously support them.

Why do you hate puppies?
//

106 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:18:02pm

re: #104 Killgore Trout

You can add that to you file of bookmarks on me.It might come in useful later.

It's called "favorites", and you still have to top them. I expect you to, though.

107 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:18:18pm

Here's an idea

You don't like Kilgores posts about OWS,,,, This won't STOP the posts but it WILL eliminate the backlash and subsequent posts about OWS from him

IGNORE THEM,, DON'T RESPOND

108 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:18:34pm

re: #99 Lidane

Seriously.

Never mind RSM and his violent rhetoric, which could easily have been said by the anti-civil rights crowd back in the 60's. It's all about OWS instead.

Forget the fact that a guy has called for violence against Americans because they have different politics from him. Let's just talk about how bad those Marxist trust fund hippies are. WTF.

Well, In my view I think the video of the assault is a greater offense than McCain's violent fantasies.

109 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:18:52pm

re: #101 William Barnett-Lewis

Slow motion flounce. Rather reminds me of how Cato did it.

The slippery slope has progressed. One reason for disgruntlement leads to further disgruntlement regarding other issues. So OWS eventually lead to defending Rush Limbaugh, and so on. Then you have to factor in that it becomes personalized.

110 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:18:58pm

Why have you all not condemned Aum Shinrikyo?
/

111 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:19:29pm

re: #107 sattv4u2

Here's an idea

You don't like Kilgores posts about OWS,,, This won't STOP the posts but it WILL eliminate the backlash and subsequent posts about OWS from him

IGNORE THEM,, DON'T RESPOND

Then how will they complain about me derailing thread?
/

112 JamesWI  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:19:32pm

re: #96 Tourquoise Supremacist

His head is so far up his own ass, that he thinks if we downding his egotistical, self-righteous rants about how he's the only one who condemns rape, that must mean we actually support the rapes!

What a freak he has turned out to be.

113 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:20:18pm

re: #109 Gus

The slippery slope has progressed. One reason for disgruntlement leads to further disgruntlement regarding other issues. So OWS eventually lead to defending Rush Limbaugh, and so on. Then you have to factor in that it becomes personalized.

Bingo.

114 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:20:22pm

re: #111 Killgore Trout

Then how will they complain about me derailing thread?
/

If I respond I'm ignoring my own advice!!

Oh ,, wait ,, DAMN!!!

115 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:20:34pm

A sad, weak man who holds his ego up through virtual violence. I'm talking about RSM,not Killgore.

116 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:21:02pm

Hot balls of bee brains!

117 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:21:12pm

re: #107 sattv4u2

Here's an idea

You don't like Kilgores posts about OWS,,, This won't STOP the posts but it WILL eliminate the backlash and subsequent posts about OWS from him

IGNORE THEM,, DON'T RESPOND

Here's an idea, how about you ignore our posts about KT?
IGNORE THEM,, DON'T RESPOND

118 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:22:08pm

re: #116 jaunte

Hot balls of bee brains!

Bees with heat rays.
We're boned.

119 bratwurst  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:22:08pm

re: #110 Varek Raith

Why have you all not condemned Aum Shinrikyo?
/

Anyone who downdings your post OBVIOUSLY supports random subway gassings. I think it is SICK that anyone around here could get behind that.

120 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:22:15pm

re: #107 sattv4u2

Here's an idea

You don't like Kilgores posts about OWS,,, This won't STOP the posts but it WILL eliminate the backlash and subsequent posts about OWS from him

IGNORE THEM,, DON'T RESPOND

Wait, do you respond only to the comments you like?

121 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:24:17pm

re: #120 Tourquoise Supremacist

Wait, do you respond only to the comments you like?

I don't like this comment. Therefore, I'm ignoring it.
...
..
.
DAMMIT

122 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:24:21pm

re: #120 Tourquoise Supremacist

Wait, do you respond only to the comments you like?

No,, but I also don't complain about what another poster wants to discuss/ talk about/ link too

I'll debate them over the content but not over their choice of topic

AND ,, when there are things I care not to debate/ discuss,,, yes,, I do scroll over them without comment

123 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:25:27pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

Well, In my view I think the video of the assault is a greater offense than McCain's violent fantasies.

You can "fill in the blank" with this comparison with just about most of the world news. But that's not the topic at hand now is it? I suppose one could also assume "well if you don't like what RS McCain has to say then don't read it."

Why are we here then?

124 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:25:33pm

re: #122 sattv4u2

No,, but I also don't complain about what another poster wants to discuss/ talk about/ link too

I'll debate them over the content but not over their choice of topic

AND ,, when there are things I care not to debate/ discuss,,, yes,, I do scroll over them without comment

OK, I think we're pretty much discussing substance of his comments though.

125 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:27:29pm

re: #124 Tourquoise Supremacist

OK, I think we're pretty much discussing substance of his comments though.

Some are,,,
Others, not so much
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

126 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:27:34pm

NYPD investigating apparent Occupy Wall St. protester's online threat

Tweeted "we wont make a difference if we dont kill a cop or 2.”

127 Kragar  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:28:35pm

Brown Jokes About Santorum's 'Protection'

Sen. Scott Brown, a Republican running for re-election in Massachusetts, had a racy response on Sunday to the news that presidential candidate Rick Santorum is now under Secret Service protection.

"I see that both Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum now have Secret Service with them on the campaign trail," Brown joked during a traditional St. Patrick's Day breakfast in Boston. "And in Santorum's case, I think it's the first time he's actually ever used protection."

128 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:29:06pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

NYPD investigating apparent Occupy Wall St. protester's online threat

Geezz,, for a second there, I thought the plaincloths cop was the comedian Adam Carolla (sp?)

Could be his brother, he looks so much like him

129 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:29:14pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

That's not supportable.

130 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:29:23pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

NYPD investigating apparent Occupy Wall St. protester's online threat

Is this a condemnation request?

131 Lidane  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:29:24pm

re: #123 Gus

Why are we here then?

To have opinions but not be able to do anything with them, of course.

It's fine to think that RS McCain is a racist, vile douchebag for his violent fantasies against other Americans as long as you don't say anything about that. If you do, then you're clearly in favor of rapey-stabby Marxist trust fund hippies. Or something.

132 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:30:09pm

Because I feel that if we don't condemn this at once we'll be accused of something or other again.

133 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:30:25pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

NYPD investigating apparent Occupy Wall St. protester's online threat

More....

Activist Cecily McMillan, 23, is seen elbowing her arresting officer in the face as she is lead from Zuccotti Park in video released by police.

She then appears to suffer a seizure in video released by activists.

She was treated at New York Downtown Hospital and released into police custody, cops said. She was charged with assault on a police officer.

Her arresting officer suffered a cut to the eye but refused medical attention, police said.

A second protester, Daniel Murphy, 25, of Palo Verde, Cal., was also charged with assault on a police officer, officials said.

Christopher Geist, 38, who is homeless according to cops, was charged with attempted robbery and sexual abuse during the chaotic protests, officials said.

134 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:30:50pm

re: #131 Lidane

To have opinions but not be able to do anything with them, of course.

It's fine to think that RS McCain is a racist, vile douchebag for his violent fantasies against other Americans as long as you don't say anything about that. If you do, then you're clearly in favor of rapey-stabby Marxist trust fund hippies. Or something.

Well. At least it's not the old school passive/aggressive crap when they would hate the topic and immediately try and turn the thread into something about guns or Al Gore.

135 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:30:51pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

More...

Rapey McElbowey!
//

136 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:31:24pm

re: #135 We are ANONYMOUS, WE ARE LEGION, we are arrested

Rapey McElbowey!
//

kinky!

137 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:32:39pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

And yet, you have now problem with notable conservatives wanting to gun down protesters in the street.

(Two can play at this game)

138 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:32:56pm

I'm not going to Page this, because I hope the young woman is going to clean up her life after this arrest, and I don't think she needs additional attention brought to her circumstances, but I can't resist the snark line that would follow the headline:

Woman arrested for allegedly hiding crack cocaine in buttock area

Why do you think they call it 'crack'?

139 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:33:49pm

re: #137 ProGunLiberal

And yet, you have now problem with notable conservatives wanting to gun down protesters in the street.

(Two can play at this game)

Actually he has spoken against McCain twice.

140 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:33:51pm

re: #137 ProGunLiberal

And yet, you have now problem with notable conservatives wanting to gun down protesters in the street.

(Two can play at this game)

I denounced it several times today.

141 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:34:37pm

re: #138 wrenchwench

"Buttock area?"

142 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:34:52pm

re: #138 wrenchwench

Eh, I've seen these stories a million times on Radio Dead Air. This happens in the US roughly once every 2-4 weeks.

143 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:34:58pm

re: #140 Killgore Trout

Did you ever get around to denouncing yourself for supporting the violence used by Tony Bologna, by the way?

I know the denouncing list is pretty long, but that's one that should probably take priority, what with you being the paragon of consistency in this hypocritical bunch of sheeple.

144 Lidane  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:35:18pm

re: #134 Gus

Well. At least it's not the old school passive/aggressive crap when they would hate the topic and immediately try and turn the thread into something about guns or Al Gore.

Nope. It's a whole new type of passive/aggressive where a thread about violent rhetoric aimed at Americans is now about OWS instead, just like every other goddamn thread around here for the last six months. Who cares what the topic is? Here's something that someone said and/or did with regard to OWS.

This thread has gone from talking about McCain's vile rhetoric and the violent delusions he has about killing Americans who disagree with his politics to the same tired old talking points that have dragged things down for months. It's pathetic. You'd think that someone calling for his fellow citizens to be shot by the police would be a much bigger discussion.

145 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:35:32pm

re: #141 jaunte

"Buttock area?"

The headline writer was trying to avoid the obvious word.

146 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:35:32pm

re: #139 Tourquoise Supremacist

Actually he has spoken against McCain twice.

re: #140 Killgore Trout

I denounced it several times today.

details, details!! So pesky

147 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:35:48pm

re: #142 ProGunLiberal

Eh, I've seen these stories a million times on Radio Dead Air. This happens in the US roughly once every 2-4 weeks.

I lead a sheltered life.

148 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:36:30pm

re: #145 wrenchwench

It's a funny miss, if they were trying to be delicate.

149 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:36:52pm

re: #140 Killgore Trout

And yet, you seem to be okay with heavy police brutality.

And having an issue with people having their own freedom of speech against Limbaugh. Personally, I would be mildly happy if Limbaugh ended up a homeless bum.

150 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:37:03pm

re: #143 Obdicut

Did you ever get around to denouncing yourself for supporting the violence used by Tony Bologna, by the way?

I know the denouncing list is pretty long, but that's one that should probably take priority, what with you being the paragon of consistency in this hypocritical bunch of sheeple.

Yes, I stood corrected after the police report was completed. I'm sure Sergey has it bookmarked in his file on me.
/

151 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:37:06pm

re: #141 jaunte

"Buttock area?"

"...area"

So ,,,, lower back??

Upper thigh??

Those are both in the "area"!!

152 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:37:52pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

Yes, I stood corrected after the police report was completed. I'm sure Sergey has it bookmarked in his file on me.
/

Nah, I only have the heartfelt stuff. /

153 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:37:56pm

I'm sure NYPD is eager for this moron's advice.

154 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:37:58pm

re: #151 sattv4u2

"You can't say coccyx on the air!"

155 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:38:38pm

re: #145 wrenchwench

The headline writer was trying to avoid the obvious word.

Could have done it in my grandfathers heavy Italian accent

"uppa U.S."

156 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:40:09pm

re: #140 Killgore Trout

I denounced it several times today.

I've decided that is not good enough.
Denounce it 1,657 more times and I'll accept it with my superior morality.

157 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:40:10pm

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Here's an occupier on Iranian state TV telling of the brutality of American police
NYPD 'clubbed' Occupy protesters (video)

PressTV loves Occupy. It is a story that was pretty much tailor-made for them to work with.

I'm always fascinated by the people they get interviews and such with.

158 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:40:15pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

Yes, I stood corrected after the police report was completed. I'm sure Sergey has it bookmarked in his file on me.
/

Vanity looks ugly on you, man. Trolling is easy, and Sergey's hobby is debating holocaust revisionists, so archiving interwebs stuff is second nature to him.

Anyway, do you have any thoughts on why you fucked up in that case? As I recall, you repeatedly insisted the protesters had attacked the cops, and that Bologna's actions were justified. You didn't wait for a police report to come out, right?

I'm just using my memory here, rather than a file.

159 Sionainn  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:40:26pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

You'd really have to stretch to find a scenario where it would be appropriate. Regardless I really doubt it applies in this case, the video is pretty clear that her assault was completely unprovoked.

How is this for a scenario? My husband as a 14-year-old riding with a friend in a car that he didn't know was stolen. The police stop the car. Husband follows all instructions by officers who then throw him in the gutter and kick the shit out of him. Oh, yeah, it would have been completely appropriate for the "officer" to have the crap kicked out of him.

160 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:40:56pm

re: #147 wrenchwench

This sort of story appears so much on the "What the Fuck is Wrong With You" segment of Radio Dead Air that it is actually on a "WTFIWWY" Bingo Card.

It is called "That doesn't go there"

Among the things that I have seen there is the Crack Up the Bum, Knife in the Vagina, Crack Pipes in the Vagina, S&W Model 10 up the butt. Those are the ones I remember off the top of my head.

161 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:41:03pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

True but unfortunately the police have a job to do and these protesters aren't exactly peaceful. these scuffles are dangerous and this is how people get hurt. It's dangerous for the police as well as the protesters.

Which is yet another reason to use good police work. Something R.S. McCain does not seem to know very much about.

162 Kronocide  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:41:38pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Yes, I still find it morally reprehensible the the level of outrage depends on the politics of rapist or the victim. Posts about occupy related rapes get downdings, Tea Party rapes get updings.

Shark jumped.

Have you considered for a moment it's you who is getting the downdings, and why you are getting the downdings?

163 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:42:07pm

Yeah, for those who don't know: look in the upper right corner of the comment box. See the heart? It's the "favorite" feature. You can bookmark comments with it, useful and not so much. It's made for a reason. Duh.

164 Sionainn  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:42:08pm

re: #68 William Barnett-Lewis

I thought about arguing the point but then I remembered that one should never feed the trolls.

I forgot. Sorry.

165 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:42:09pm

re: #160 ProGunLiberal

This sort of story appears so much on the "What the Fuck is Wrong With You" segment of Radio Dead Air that it is actually on a "WTFIWWY" Bingo Card.

It is called "That doesn't go there"

Among the things that I have seen there is the Crack Up the Bum, Knife in the Vagina, Crack Pipes in the Vagina, S&W Model 10 up the butt. Those are the ones I remember off the top of my head.

That's the perfect final phrase for that paragraph.

166 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:42:53pm
167 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:43:01pm

re: #162 Kronocide

Shark jumped.

Have you considered for a moment it's you who is getting the downdings, and why you are getting the downdings?

The funny hat he wears??

168 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:43:18pm

re: #166 jaunte

[ ] RON PAUL

169 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:43:45pm

re: #34 _RememberTonyC

I wonder if McCain would feel differently if it were a tea party protest that resulted in busted skulls among the protestors?

You know how McCain would feel about that.

This is someone who doesn't give a damn about the rule of law, or maintaining order. He just wants everyone on the other side to get as hurt as possible.

170 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:44:00pm

re: #158 Obdicut

Vanity looks ugly on you, man. Trolling is easy, and Sergey's hobby is debating holocaust revisionists, so archiving interwebs stuff is second nature to him.

Anyway, do you have any thoughts on why you fucked up in that case? As I recall, you repeatedly insisted the protesters had attacked the cops, and that Bologna's actions were justified. You didn't wait for a police report to come out, right?

I'm just using my memory here, rather than a file.

Since there was already videos of protesters attacking police and staging fake scenes of police brutality I gave the cops the benefit of the doubt. The police report proved me wrong.

171 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:44:17pm

re: #168 Varek Raith

[ ] RON PAUL

[ ] English

172 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:44:30pm

re: #166 jaunte

I somehow expected that, with Santorum acting like a dick to the Puerto Ricans.

re: #165 wrenchwench

I'm missing something.

173 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:44:45pm

re: #171 Tourquoise Supremacist

[ ] English Murican

FTFY

174 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:44:48pm

re: #171 Tourquoise Supremacist

[ ] English

[ ] Lon Pauru.

175 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:44:56pm

re: #161 SanFranciscoZionist

And it's important to remember that most cops don't want to be in the situation, and are scared and panicky themselves. The street-level cops don't set policy. I'm fine with holding assholes like Bologna to account for unprovoked assault, but the policy of violent confrontation-- and the increasing militarization of the cops-- isn't coming from the patrolmen and sergeants.

176 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:45:00pm

re: #166 jaunte

Puerto Rico results so far: Romney 88%, Santorum 6%.

No es bueno para Señor Santorum.

177 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:45:17pm

re: #174 Varek Raith

[ ] Lon Pauru.

[ ] Valek Laith

*runs away*

178 erik_t  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:45:20pm

re: #166 jaunte

Thank god he flew down there to campaign see how far he could fit his pie in his boca.

179 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:45:53pm

re: #172 ProGunLiberal

re: #165 wrenchwench

I'm missing something.

Just another funny place to put stuff, but far removed from the other places under discussion.

180 Lidane  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:45:57pm

re: #166 jaunte

I guess Rick's whole "SPEAK ENGLISH" thing didn't work out so well for him.

181 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:46:02pm

re: #177 Tourquoise Supremacist

[ ] Valek Laith

*runs away*

Like your name sounds any better in engrish???
:P

182 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:46:58pm

re: #181 Varek Raith

Like your name sounds any better in engrish???
:P

I'm pretty sure to your ear there's not much difference between "Sergey Romanov" and "Selgey Lomanov" /

183 Sionainn  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:47:03pm

re: #110 Varek Raith

Why have you all not condemned Aum Shinrikyo?
/

Who?

Oh, I see what you just did.

184 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:47:45pm

re: #170 Killgore Trout

Since there was already videos of protesters attacking police and staging fake scenes of police brutality I gave the cops the benefit of the doubt. The police report proved me wrong.

But there's also, of course, well-known incidents of police brutality, too. And let's be frank, you didn't just give them the benefit of the doubt, you stated your frank enjoyment in seeing women getting pepper-sprayed. It was, and remains, creepy-- especially from someone who then piously wraps himself in platitudes about how you're against violence. You're not, clearly, so why do you expect anyone to buy that bullshit?

It wasn't just you giving the cops the benefit of the doubt. It was also you declaring the women trust-fund Marxists-- something you pulled out of your ass-- and reveling in the violence done to them.

You've done a stellar job of avoiding this for months so I don't expect you to actually deal with this now, but this is one of the main reasons why your victim cards stick to your fingers.

185 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:48:47pm

re: #180 Lidane

Also, really, really stupid.

He doesn't realize Puerto Rico has English as an official language as well? That English and Spanish are co-equal? How much of a dumbfuck is he?

And because of that little language thing, that means that most Puerto Ricans have to learn English. And they probably know better than your average Cletus in the South.

186 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:49:14pm

re: #180 Lidane

Santorum Receives Endorsement from Former Major Leaguer Carlos Baerga in Puerto Rico

Santorum said, "I was a fan of Carlos for many years* and I'm thrilled to have his endorsement. Carlos is a role model for so many because of his career in baseball and his life as a Christian."

*Not intended to be, well, you know...

187 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:49:52pm

Image: gop_special_victims_unit-2.jpg

188 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:50:02pm

re: #183 Sionainn

Who?

Oh, I see what you just did.

Damn, it's been...seventeen years...since the attack on the Tokyo subway. Freaky evil SOBs.

189 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:50:25pm

re: #185 ProGunLiberal

Also, really, really stupid.

He doesn't realize Puerto Rico has English as an official language as well? That English and Spanish are co-equal? How much of a dumbfuck is he?

And because of that little language thing, that means that most Puerto Ricans have to learn English. And they probably know better than your average Cletus in the South.

He claimed that other states had the "speak English" requirement imposed on them before they became states, which New Mexico most certainly did not. He's ignorant and offensive.

190 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:50:56pm

I hereby condemn all that is bad and endorse all that is good. I'm also officially neutral on everything in-between.

There, this should do it.

191 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:50:57pm

re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist

Damn, it's been...seventeen years...since the attack on the Tokyo subway. Freaky evil SOBs.

I'm reminded of it whenever I reread The Invisibles. Which I highly recommend, if you haven't.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

192 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:51:21pm

re: #189 wrenchwench

He claimed that other states had the "speak English" requirement imposed on them before they became states, which New Mexico most certainly did not. He's ignorant and offensive.

As opposed to smart and offensive like me.
Jerk.

193 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:51:32pm

re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist

Damn, it's been...seventeen years...since the attack on the Tokyo subway. Freaky evil SOBs.

damn ,,,, time flies

194 nines09  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:51:36pm

re: #166 jaunte

Puerto Rico results so far: Romney 88%, Santorum 6%.

No es bueno para Señor Santorum.

Dead dog on side of road 6%

195 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:52:15pm

re: #190 Tourquoise Supremacist

I hereby condemn all that is bad and endorse all that is good. I'm also officially neutral on everything in-between.

There, this should do it.

Youtube Video
196 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:53:39pm

Pineapple on pizza, anyone?

197 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:54:08pm

re: #189 wrenchwench

He claimed that other states had the "speak English" requirement imposed on them before they became states, which New Mexico most certainly did not. He's ignorant and offensive.

From the 2008 GOP platform on Puerto Rico:

We support the right of the United States citizens of Puerto Rico to be admitted to the Union as a fully sovereign state after they freely so determine. We recognize that Congress has the final authority to define the constitutionally valid options for Puerto Rico to achieve a permanent non-territorial status with government by consent and full enfranchisement. As long as Puerto Rico is not a state, however, the will of its people regarding their political status should be ascertained by means of a general right of referendum or specific referenda sponsored by the U.S. government.

No mention of setting conditions about language.

198 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:54:14pm

re: #196 Tourquoise Supremacist

Pineapple on pizza, anyone?

Actually, I'm neutral on that.

199 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:54:19pm

re: #196 Tourquoise Supremacist

Pineapple on pizza, anyone?

Image: 78fba1939bbbf682165dcb6dbf3c5b2f.png

200 Kronocide  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:54:29pm

re: #196 Tourquoise Supremacist

Pineapple on pizza, anyone?

PIZZA TROLLING.

201 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:55:24pm

re: #197 SanFranciscoZionist

From the 2008 GOP platform on Puerto Rico:

We support the right of the United States citizens of Puerto Rico to be admitted to the Union as a fully sovereign state after they freely so determine. We recognize that Congress has the final authority to define the constitutionally valid options for Puerto Rico to achieve a permanent non-territorial status with government by consent and full enfranchisement. As long as Puerto Rico is not a state, however, the will of its people regarding their political status should be ascertained by means of a general right of referendum or specific referenda sponsored by the U.S. government.

No mention of setting conditions about language.

Santorum: Dumber and more offensive than the Republican Party.

That's not an easy achievement!

202 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:55:38pm

re: #199 Varek Raith

Image: 78fba1939bbbf682165dcb6dbf3c5b2f.png

He's putting pineapple on pizza?

203 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:55:55pm

re: #199 Varek Raith

Image: 78fba1939bbbf682165dcb6dbf3c5b2f.png

Oh, you like pepper on your pizza...

204 Kronocide  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:56:05pm

re: #199 Varek Raith

Image: 78fba1939bbbf682165dcb6dbf3c5b2f.png

Pepper Spray Pizza anyone? So good it'll bring you to tears.

205 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:56:20pm

re: #202 Tourquoise Supremacist

He's putting pineapple on pizza?

...
Yeah, that's it.
...
Don't close your eyes...

206 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:56:32pm

re: #189 wrenchwench

It'll be interesting in November to see what happens with the Plebiscite. I think the chance of them going for statehood is reasonably good.

If that happens, all sorts of knock on effects. We may have to repeal the statute in the House of Representatives capping the number of reps at 435. Also, we will have to become more involved with the Caribbean, and the Border Patrol will have to more people there. In addition, Illegal Immigration from the Dominican Republic and Haiti becomes an issue.

207 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:56:34pm

re: #203 wrenchwench

Oh, you like pepper on your pizza...

Indeed.

208 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:57:23pm

re: #196 Tourquoise Supremacist

Pineapple on pizza, anyone?

Big Pappa here? (Hawaiian Lizard, donchyknow)

209 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:57:32pm

re: #206 ProGunLiberal

I want to hear Nate Silver's opinion on Puerto Rico's Plebiscite. Who's for spamming him to ask him to address it?

210 Lidane  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:57:45pm

re: #185 ProGunLiberal

How much of a dumbfuck is he?

It would take ages to answer that question.

There's a reason why Rick Santorum was considered the most friendless guy in the Senate when he was there.

211 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:57:54pm

re: #206 ProGunLiberal

It'll be interesting in November to see what happens with the Plebiscite. I think the chance of them going for statehood is reasonably good.

If that happens, all sorts of knock on effects. We may have to repeal the statute in the House of Representatives capping the number of reps at 435. Also, we will have to become more involved with the Caribbean, and the Border Patrol will have to more people there. In addition, Illegal Immigration from the Dominican Republic and Haiti becomes an issue.

Big increase in flag production. Good for China!

212 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:57:58pm

re: #208 sattv4u2

Big Pappa here? (Hawaiian Lizard, donchyknow)

He's Kronocide.

213 erik_t  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:58:15pm

re: #206 ProGunLiberal

In addition, Illegal Immigration from the Dominican Republic and Haiti becomes an issue.

Why would illegal immigration materially change after statehood? Or are you saying it would become An Issue politically, without actually changing at all?

214 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:58:45pm

re: #212 Varek Raith

He's Kronocide.

EVERYONE ,,, CHANGE YOU NAMES BACK,,,
I'm old !!!!!

215 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:59:00pm

Apropos of nothing except the election talk, I learned yesterday that during the 1952 election, my grandfather showed his support for Stevenson by borrowing a donkey from someone and putting it in his front yard, with lights on it at night, for some time.

My father recalls it boosting his status in the neighborhood. The kids all got to feed it carrots.

Ike won anyway.

216 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:59:42pm

Delusional.

Santorum: If I Win Illinois, I Win the Nomination

The prediction is bold indeed, considering that he trails Romney by 243 delegates and Illinois awards only 69. It is also a tough test for Santorum because Romney is expected to take the state and currently holds the lead. Romney is expected to take the wealthier Chicago area, while Santorum is expected to take the more conservative, working-class southern Illinois.

Not bold. Delusional.

217 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:59:51pm

re: #215 SanFranciscoZionist

Apropos of nothing except the election talk, I learned yesterday that during the 1952 election, my grandfather showed his support for Stevenson by borrowing a donkey from someone and putting it in his front yard, with lights on it at night, for some time.

My father recalls it boosting his status in the neighborhood. The kids all got to feed it carrots.

Ike won anyway.

*Steals elephant from zoo*

218 Kronocide  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:00:16pm

re: #212 Varek Raith

He's Kronocide.

I changed my name to Kronocide. But as the Official Hawaiian Lizard Brigade Commander of the Central Pacific, pineapple on pizza will be dealt with harshly and judiciously.

219 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:00:17pm

re: #215 SanFranciscoZionist

borrowing a donkey from someone and putting it in his front yard, with lights on it at night,

That musta been one pissed off donkey!

220 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:00:56pm

re: #216 Gus

Delusional.

Santorum: If I Win Illinois, I Win the Nomination

Not bold. Delusional.


You said '69'.

221 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:00:58pm

re: #213 erik_t

I would imagine that, with Puerto Rico actually being a state, more people might decide to pull a Boatride across the Strait. I can see a flaw with that thinking though.

re: #211 wrenchwench

Every single flag in the US would need to be replaced. That's billions of dollars. I personally wouldn't mind a law requiring US flags to be made in the US.

222 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:01:15pm

re: #217 Varek Raith

*Steals elephant from zoo*

Yes, it does occur to me that if the Zionists Sr. had been Republicans, this would have been a less feasible form of showing support...

223 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:01:16pm

re: #219 sattv4u2

borrowing a donkey from someone and putting it in his front yard, with lights on it at night,

That musta been one pissed off donkey!

As long as they are being fed carrots, they're pretty mellow.

224 Digital Display  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:01:43pm

re: #196 Tourquoise Supremacist

Pineapple on pizza, anyone?

I like a Veggie pizza with extra Veggies and extra Pineapples..I eat peaches and cottage cheese for breakfast..I like noodles and chinese food..
I am the world's most pickest eater

225 erik_t  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:01:49pm

re: #221 ProGunLiberal

Every single flag in the US would need to be replaced. That's billions of dollars. I personally wouldn't mind a law requiring US flags to be made in the US.

Um... how about no.

226 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:02:00pm

Heh, she is a socialist:
[Link: www.ydsusa.org...]

Northeast Regional Organizer

Cecily McMillan is a senior at Lawrence University in Appleton, WI. In addition to her participation in YDS, previous political involvement includes co-founding and leading her campus' FairWisconsin student organization, promoting LGBTQ rights, as well as organizing campus-wide political debates and small discussion groups. Before college, she was employed in Atlanta by Georgia PIRG, canvassing for community support on key environmental issues, and helped campaign/canvas for Nan Orrock, Georgia State Senator. Prior to Atlanta, she lived in several small towns/cities in Southeast Texas, and worked to create Young Democrats Organization's at two different high schools.

227 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:02:06pm

re: #219 sattv4u2

borrowing a donkey from someone and putting it in his front yard, with lights on it at night,

That musta been one pissed off donkey!

Well, no work, and lots of free carrots, so probably a sort of mixed situation.

228 compound_Idaho  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:02:13pm

re: #196 Tourquoise Supremacist

Pineapple on pizza, anyone?

[Link: www.silive.com...]

Goodfella's Brick Oven Pizza in Dongan Hills claimed first place in the gourmet pizza contest at the International Pizza Expo of Las Vegas.

The winning offering?

A "Tropical Pie," which features a Patron tequila and pineapple cream sauce, shrimp, mango salsa and a pineapple topping.

229 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:03:11pm

re: #228 compound_Idaho

[Link: www.silive.com...]

Goodfella's Brick Oven Pizza in Dongan Hills claimed first place in the gourmet pizza contest at the International Pizza Expo of Las Vegas.

The winning offering?

A "Tropical Pie," which features a Patron tequila and pineapple cream sauce, shrimp, mango salsa and a pineapple topping.

That's criminally wrong.

230 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:03:48pm

re: #228 compound_Idaho

[Link: www.silive.com...]

Goodfella's Brick Oven Pizza in Dongan Hills claimed first place in the gourmet pizza contest at the International Pizza Expo of Las Vegas.

The winning offering?

A "Tropical Pie," which features a Patron tequila and pineapple cream sauce, shrimp, mango salsa and a pineapple topping.

That would have to have LOTS of tequila for me to maintain my position of neutrality.

231 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:03:55pm

re: #228 compound_Idaho

Urgh.

232 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:04:43pm

re: #228 compound_Idaho

[Link: www.silive.com...]

Goodfella's Brick Oven Pizza in Dongan Hills claimed first place in the gourmet pizza contest at the International Pizza Expo of Las Vegas.

The winning offering?

A "Tropical Pie," which features a Patron tequila and pineapple cream sauce, shrimp, mango salsa and a pineapple topping.

Shrimp? Hate sea food pizza.

233 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:04:46pm

re: #228 compound_Idaho

[ ] Stays in Vegas

234 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:05:45pm

re: #232 Tourquoise Supremacist

Shrimp? Hate sea food pizza.

Image: 121710armandos6_sausage_anchovy.jpg

235 JamesWI  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:05:47pm

re: #184 Obdicut

But there's also, of course, well-known incidents of police brutality, too. And let's be frank, you didn't just give them the benefit of the doubt, you stated your frank enjoyment in seeing women getting pepper-sprayed. It was, and remains, creepy-- especially from someone who then piously wraps himself in platitudes about how you're against violence. You're not, clearly, so why do you expect anyone to buy that bullshit?

It wasn't just you giving the cops the benefit of the doubt. It was also you declaring the women trust-fund Marxists-- something you pulled out of your ass-- and reveling in the violence done to them.

You've done a stellar job of avoiding this for months so I don't expect you to actually deal with this now, but this is one of the main reasons why your victim cards stick to your fingers.

Hmmmm......silent since this post. Shocking

236 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:06:42pm

Fuck, it's snowing.

A couple of days ago it was 70° F.

Same thing happened last week. A couple of days in the 70s, then a couple of days of snow. Spring in the Rockies.

237 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:06:50pm

re: #223 wrenchwench

As long as they are being fed carrots, they're pretty mellow.

Not if they're awake 24/7

How do I know that??

We were young,,, we were in college ,,we were bored ,, don't ask!!

238 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:06:55pm

re: #234 Gus

Well, I don't count fish ;)

239 Kronocide  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:07:18pm

re: #235 JamesWI

Hmmm...silent since this post. Shocking

No, it's because Sergey did a Pineapple Pizza Derail.

Oldest one in the book.

240 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:07:21pm

re: #238 Tourquoise Supremacist

Well, I don't count fish ;)

Ah. Just stuff with "legs"?

241 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:07:45pm

re: #227 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, no work, and lots of free carrots, so probably a sort of mixed situation.

Also, I assume the lights didn't stay on all night. This was Fresno in the early 50s--traffic died down early.

242 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:07:58pm

Oh look a new member...

[Waits.]

243 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:08:02pm

re: #234 Gus

Cheese and seafood together just don't do it for me in any combination.

Now I'm craving sanddabs, and you can't get 'em in New York.

244 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:08:15pm

re: #240 Gus

Shrimps, clams, octopi etc.

245 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:09:10pm

re: #243 Obdicut

Cheese and seafood together just don't do it for me in any combination.

Now I'm craving sanddabs, and you can't get 'em in New York.

I like anchovies on a pizza. That works with cheese. Lots of sodium though.

246 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:09:14pm

re: #239 Kronocide

No, it's because Sergey did a Pineapple Pizza Derail.

Oldest one in the book.

I just revived a comatose thread.

247 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:09:19pm

re: #243 Obdicut

Cheese and seafood together just don't do it for me in any combination.

Now I'm craving sanddabs, and you can't get 'em in New York.

Parmesan halibut is pretty good.

Tuna melt.

248 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:09:25pm

re: #241 SanFranciscoZionist

Also, I assume the lights didn't stay on all night. This was Fresno in the early 50s--traffic died down early.

Not once word spread that there was a live donkey around!!!
//

249 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:09:59pm

It's almost forgotten today, but the right wing of the time engaged in some very raucous cheering at the time of the Kent State shootings in 1970. There was no internet of course, but I remember editorialists defending the National Guard, with some calling for a lot more shooting. Various far right publications spread all sorts of wild tales, including scurrilous personal attacks on the victims. James A. Michener documented some of this in his book about Kent State. It might be worthwhile for researchers to take another look at it now: Old-timers like me often comment on the parallels between today's right wing and its 60s predecessors. It might be helpful to have the hard data online and therefore readily at hand.
Today's right wing would like to bury this because, among other things, a large fraction of them now hold the National Guard in suspicion as a possible agent of gun-grabbing and FEMA camp round-ups.

250 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:10:04pm

re: #244 Tourquoise Supremacist

Shrimps, clams, octopi etc.

Sea cucumber? Resists chewing more than any other species. Except maybe a non-tenderized abalone.

251 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:10:27pm

Tuna pizza is actually my absolute favorite.

252 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:10:34pm

re: #244 Tourquoise Supremacist

Shrimps, clams, octopi etc.

Speaking of which,,,, I'm planning to dine on fresh Northern Atlantic seafood tonight

Can't get that back home

253 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:10:40pm

re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist

Parmesan halibut is pretty good.

Tuna melt.

I love smoked clams, smoked mussels, kippered herring with a sharp cheddar and crackers. Nom, nom!

254 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:11:14pm

re: #248 sattv4u2

Not once word spread that there was a live donkey around!!!
//

I have to assume that most Fresnans had seen one before.

255 prairiefire  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:11:14pm

re: #218 Kronocide

I changed my name to Kronocide. But as the Official Hawaiian Lizard Brigade Commander of the Central Pacific, pineapple on pizza will be dealt with harshly and judiciously.

Any interesting new food joints in Hilo? We will be hitting the Big Island to see family this year.

256 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:11:30pm

re: #253 Gus

I love smoked clams, smoked mussels, kippered herring with a sharp cheddar and crackers. Nom, nom!

What kinda pipe you need for that??
/

257 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:11:46pm

re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist

Parmesan I can see, since it's such a weird thingy. But no, tunamelts make me queasy.

Now I'm missing all kinds of Pacific seafood. I wonder what's on at the Anchor Oyster Bar tonight? Boy I miss that place.

258 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:11:51pm

re: #254 SanFranciscoZionist

I have to assume that most Fresnans had seen one before.

Although possibly not with flags over it, and spotlights.

259 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:11:56pm

re: #9 Tourquoise Supremacist

Not only that, he has a history of it:

[Link: theothermccain.com...]

[Link: theothermccain.com...]

the good news is that the NYPD wants no praise from the likes of Robert Stacy McCain nor would it ever act as brutally as he wishes it would. They actually have honor, which he clearly lacks.

260 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:12:21pm

re: #258 SanFranciscoZionist

Although possibly not with flags over it, and spotlights.

see??

261 Digital Display  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:12:25pm

re: #236 wrenchwench

Fuck, it's snowing.

A couple of days ago it was 70° F.

Same thing happened last week. A couple of days in the 70s, then a couple of days of snow. Spring in the Rockies.

Our weather is going to turn bad.. They have said here at the National Weather Center in Norman that this is going to be bad tornado spring..It is warm here..The cold air is coming down from Canada..The west side of the
State is under watch right now..But April and May is going to be bad here.

262 Kragar  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:12:51pm

What kind of nightmare thread has this become?

263 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:13:11pm

re: #262 Kragar

A tuna-donkey-melt one.

264 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:13:12pm

re: #249 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

It's almost forgotten today, but the right wing of the time engaged in some very raucous cheering at the time of the Kent State shootings in 1970. There was no internet of course, but I remember editorialists defending the National Guard, with some calling for a lot more shooting. Various far right publications spread all sorts of wild tales, including scurrilous personal attacks on the victims. James A. Michener documented some of this in his book about Kent State. It might be worthwhile for researchers to take another look at it now: Old-timers like me often comment on the parallels between today's right wing and its 60s predecessors. It might be helpful to have the hard data online and therefore readily at hand.
Today's right wing would like to bury this because, among other things, a large fraction of them now hold the National Guard in suspicion as a possible agent of gun-grabbing and FEMA camp round-ups.

I saw positive references to Kent State in relation to Occupy several months ago. Claimed that it succeeded in 'shutting up' the left, which is quite inaccurate.

265 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:13:21pm

re: #262 Kragar

What kind of nightmare thread has this become?

Yes, they done gone and made me hongry.

266 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:13:35pm

re: #262 Kragar

What kind of nightmare thread has this become?

Seriously.
DON'T FUCK WITH THE PIZZA.

267 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:13:38pm

re: #235 JamesWI

Hmmm...silent since this post. Shocking

Oh, I usually don't engage Obdicut too much. It's often pretty pointless. Yes, or course I condemn real police brutality. I stood corrected after the police report. My father worked in security so growing up things like mace, Pepperspay and even dialed down homemade tasers were a source of amusement, pranks and practical jokes. The women were participating in a violent protest and police were wresting with suspects resisting arrest nearby. These things happen, The investigation ruled against the cops and the protesters will probably win their law suit. That's fine by me.

268 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:14:01pm

re: #266 Varek Raith

Seriously.
DON'T FUCK WITH THE PIZZA.

Are comments invited on this one?

269 Kronocide  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:14:44pm

re: #255 prairiefire

Any interesting new food joints in Hilo? We will be hitting the Big Island to see family this year.

I don't know about anything new in Hilo, I'm in Kona/West Side. But I do go over a lot.

270 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:14:49pm

Has anyone ever actually put an anchovy on a pizza? I know pizza joints have it on their menus, but I've suspected this is only because they want to look exotic, with something for everyone (even anchovy-loving weirdos). For that matter I've wondered if anyone eats anchovies at all. Surely they do or companies wouldn't go to all the trouble to put the little buggers in cans and ship them all over the country.

Maybe Sheriff Joe can do something useful for a change and appoint a posse to look into it.

271 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:14:57pm

re: #268 Tourquoise Supremacist

Are comments invited on this one?

SILENCE!!!

272 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:15:20pm

re: #262 Kragar

What kind of nightmare thread has this become?

Image: pineapplecomfort.jpg

273 Lidane  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:17:05pm

re: #270 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

Has anyone ever actually put an anchovy on a pizza?

I knew one guy years ago who actually liked anchovies on his pizza. In fact, all he'd ever order was a cheese pizza with anchovies on it. No other veggies or anything.

I tried it once. OMG. Salty as all hell. I couldn't eat it. I tossed it out and went for a slice of pepperoni to clear the palate.

274 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:17:35pm

re: #270 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

Has anyone ever actually put an anchovy on a pizza? I know pizza joints have it on their menus, but I've suspected this is only because they want to look exotic, with something for everyone (even anchovy-loving weirdos). For that matter I've wondered if anyone eats anchovies at all. Surely they do or companies wouldn't go to all the trouble to put the little buggers in cans and ship them all over the country.

Maybe Sheriff Joe can do something useful for a change and appoint a posse to look into it.

I do, I love it but a lot of pizza places don't even offer it any more. They're also really good in all kinds of sauces. When you add then to the pan with garlic and onions they just dissolve into deliciousness.

275 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:17:40pm

re: #267 Killgore Trout

Heh. Yeah, it's totally pointless to explain why you claimed the women were trust-fund Marxists, to deal with the fact you were not just giving the cops the benefit of the doubt, as you claimed, but enjoying the violence done to them.

The women were participating in a violent protest and police were wresting with suspects resisting arrest nearby. These things happen,

No, the women weren't participating in a violent protest. Other protesters being violent elsewhere doesn't provide any excuse for Bologna's actions. "These things happen" is not a condemnation, either.

It's so funny you repeatedly crown yourself the king of consistency. You should make a hat you can wear while you post that says that.

276 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:18:49pm

re: #262 Kragar

What kind of nightmare thread has this become?

with a side of pineapples

277 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:19:31pm

re: #267 Killgore Trout

Oh, I usually don't engage Obdicut too much. It's often pretty pointless. Yes, or course I condemn real police brutality. I stood corrected after the police report. My father worked in security so growing up things like mace, Pepperspay and even dialed down homemade tasers were a source of amusement, pranks and practical jokes. The women were participating in a violent protest and police were wresting with suspects resisting arrest nearby. These things happen, The investigation ruled against the cops and they'll probably win their law suit. That's fine by me.

Killgore, do yourself a favor and in the future reply without stuff like the two sentences I highlighted. They are passive-aggressive and they turn people hostile to the rest of your post, which would have actually been pretty good without the passive-aggressive nonsense

278 prairiefire  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:19:47pm

re: #269 Kronocide

I don't know about anything new in Hilo, I'm in Kona/West Side. But I do go over a lot.

I will research online. I know the food trucks on Oahu have been getting good:[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

279 Altermite  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:20:15pm

re: #276 sattv4u2

with a side of pineapples

so long as they're on the side, and not on the pizza.

280 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:20:54pm

[Link: storify.com...]

The Guardian freelance reporter Laurie Penny:
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Cops attacking people with barricades. Was pushed to ground and my breast grabbed by an NYPD. Bit hurt but am ok.
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As I tried to cross a street an officer who punched my colleague on #D17 tried to stop me. I showed him my pass. "I don't care," he said,
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New York Daily News reporter Ciare Trapasso was clear in her criticism of the NYPD's tactics:
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Police are out of control shoving #ows protesters and reporters on the ground. Hurt my leg in the scuffle.
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BBC reporter Greg Palast asserted that his photographer Zach Roberts was hit with a baton during an impromptu march from the park:
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Our photographer ZD Roberts beaten @OWS Zucotti Park by cops. Thrown to ground, hair grabbd, hit with clubs while yelling, I'M PRESS PRESS!
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Fell down, got trampled by 6 people on top of me, cop hit me on my head with baton, pulled hair hit me again on back. Was yelling press #m17
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Michael Tracey, a freelancer for The Nation and Salon, also reported being hit as he attempted to cover the eviction, as did Columbia Journalism School student and freelancer Andrew Katz:
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As I was taking a photo in the park, one officer struck me in the shoulder. cc @jcstearns #M17
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Shoved by police a few times, nothing wild. Protestors were right behind me. Don't look so press-friendly right now. #M17
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Huffington Post reporter Jason Cherkis summed up the scene:
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so police clear Zuccotti Park without clear pretext, probable cause and deny press access. Nothing has changed.
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281 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:21:07pm

re: #270 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

It actually goes all the way back to the Romans. They had this fish sauce called garum that they'd slather on bread. When the pizza thing started in Napoli, they put fish sauce or whole anchovies along with tomatoes on the pizza, it was one of the original types.

It's fallen out of favor just 'cuz pizza has become less Neapolitan over time.

282 JamesWI  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:21:23pm

re: #275 Obdicut

Heh. Yeah, it's totally pointless to explain why you claimed the women were trust-fund Marxists, to deal with the fact you were not just giving the cops the benefit of the doubt, as you claimed, but enjoying the violence done to them.

No, the women weren't participating in a violent protest. Other protesters being violent elsewhere doesn't provide any excuse for Bologna's actions. "These things happen" is not a condemnation, either.

It's so funny you repeatedly crown yourself the king of consistency. You should make a hat you can wear while you post that says that.

Oh, but you see, he was only laughing because mace and tasers are funny to him! Not because he enjoyed the violence being done against OWS women.

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283 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:21:24pm

re: #270 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

Has anyone ever actually put an anchovy on a pizza

I've never personally "put one on",, but I have personally eaten many a pizza with them on it!!

284 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:21:45pm

Anchovy pizza is very traditional.

285 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:22:24pm

re: #279 Altermite

so long as they're on the side, and not on the pizza.

amen

286 Stanghazi  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:22:51pm

re: #278 prairiefire

I will research online. I know the food trucks on Oahu have been getting good:[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

Food trucks are the newest great thing. We have a few here. One goes down the street from my office on Wednesdays. really good gourmet.

Have fun planning!

287 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:22:53pm

re: #225 erik_t

Anyone like to explain why my idea on this is apparently bad? I don't believe in Free Trade. Rather, I want my Trade regulated, and certain nations having certain adjustments.

288 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:23:20pm

re: #284 Gus

Anchovy pizza is very traditional.

Growing up, we had anchovies not only on pizza, but in salads,, ESPECIALLY on Christmas eve

289 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:24:02pm

re: #270 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

Has anyone ever actually put an anchovy on a pizza? I know pizza joints have it on their menus, but I've suspected this is only because they want to look exotic, with something for everyone (even anchovy-loving weirdos). For that matter I've wondered if anyone eats anchovies at all. Surely they do or companies wouldn't go to all the trouble to put the little buggers in cans and ship them all over the country.

Maybe Sheriff Joe can do something useful for a change and appoint a posse to look into it.

My dad used to eat anchovies when he was in the Navy (during WW2) otherwise the Navy would make him eat a salt ration.

290 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:24:13pm

I recall a pizza order from Laverne and Shirley. A large pie with fish and put shoes on it; it is going for a walk. I think it was a take-out anchovy pizza.

291 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:24:35pm

re: #277 Dark_Falcon

Killgore, do yourself a favor and in the future reply without stuff like the two sentences I highlighted. They are passive-aggressive and they turn people hostile to the rest of your post, which would have actually been pretty good without the passive-aggressive nonsense

Well I did want to stress that it really doesn't mean anything if I don't reply to something. People day all kinds of outrageous things about me these days, too many to bother addressing much of the time. It often just perpetuates these fake outrages.

292 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:24:44pm

re: #288 sattv4u2

Growing up, we had anchovies not only on pizza, but in salads,, ESPECIALLY on Christmas eve

Fish used to scare me as a kid. Not in the aquarium but for eating. I grew into it as I got older. But my mom would put anchovies in the pizza from time to time which I liked.

293 dragonfire1981  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:24:52pm

re: #267 Killgore Trout

I have to ask and bear in mind this is not a personal attack against you but a serious question: What exactly are you trying to accomplish with your non-stop posting regarding the Occupy movement?

I every time I see one I feel like screaming "Ok, WE GET IT already!".

You don't like the Occupy movement, fine. That's your right. I don't agree with a lot of things they do either, but I don't have a need to fire off 10,15,20 posts a day to highlight that fact.

So again, back to the original question: What are you trying to accomplish with all the posts?

Are you trying to convince everyone here that Occupy is evil?

A lot of times I simply tune out your posts because I feel you've beat that dead horse more than I ever thought possible.

Having said that, I am still curious as to your aims with all of this as I assume you must have some objective in mind.

Again, this was not meant to be an attack against you. I have no issues with you posting negative stuff about Occupy, I just wish to understand why you keep doing so.

294 prairiefire  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:26:15pm

re: #286 March Madness, way better than politics!

Food trucks are the newest great thing. We have a few here. One goes down the street from my office on Wednesdays. really good gourmet.

Have fun planning!

Thanks! We will immerse the kids in their Asian heritage with all of their Japaneses cousins.
Air tickets are making me feel a little ill. Around $1150 or so per person. Jeez. We are on an austerity budget in the mean time.

295 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:26:18pm

re: #292 Gus

Fish used to scare me as a kid. Not in the aquarium but for eating. I grew into it as I got older. But my mom would put anchovies in the pizza from time to time which I liked.

I really enjoy an anchovy pizza

296 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:26:47pm

re: #295 sattv4u2

I really enjoy an anchovy pizza

It's great with beer. Lots and lots of beer!

297 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:26:59pm

re: #291 Killgore Trout

Much easier than pointing out anything I said that's fake, of course. Because there wasn't anything I said that was fake.

298 prairiefire  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:27:06pm

re: #288 sattv4u2

Growing up, we had anchovies not only on pizza, but in salads,, ESPECIALLY on Christmas eve

Are you Sicilian?

299 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:27:41pm

re: #296 Gus

It's great with beer. Lots and lots of beer!

dammit ,,, I was going to go out for a nice seafood dinner,,, but now, I may revise that and go for an anchovy pizza!!

300 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:28:04pm

re: #298 prairiefire

Are you Sicilian?

1/4
(1/2 Italian ,, 1/4 Irish)

301 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:29:21pm

re: #300 sattv4u2

Aww, your ancestry is so simple compared to mine.

302 The Yankee  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:29:23pm

re: #294 prairiefire

Thanks! We will immerse the kids in their Asian heritage with all of their Japaneses cousins.
Air tickets are making me feel a little ill. Around $1150 or so per person. Jeez. We are on an austerity budget in the mean time.

Hey I never talked to you before but where did you get those ticket prices from. Did you try Skyscanner? Do all you guys have to leave together?

303 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:29:30pm

re: #281 Obdicut

It actually goes all the way back to the Romans. They had this fish sauce called garum that they'd slather on bread. When the pizza thing started in Napoli, they put fish sauce or whole anchovies along with tomatoes on the pizza, it was one of the original types.

It's fallen out of favor just 'cuz pizza has become less Neapolitan over time.

I know about garum from the writings of Harry Turtledove.
It was wildly popular but not everyone liked it:

Do you not realize that garum sociorum, that expensive bloody mass of decayed fish, consumes the stomach with its salted putrefaction?

—Seneca, Epistle 95.

304 BishopX  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:31:59pm

re: #301 ProGunLiberal

That's what happens to people on the east coast...there tends to be pretty strong ethnic communities and less intermarriage than out west (it helps that there are more recent immigrants).

305 erik_t  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:34:29pm

re: #287 ProGunLiberal

Anyone like to explain why my idea on this is apparently bad? I don't believe in Free Trade. Rather, I want my Trade regulated, and certain nations having certain adjustments.

Make sure that only we manufacture our national symbol? Somehow? I can't fathom a more pointless use of the power of government.

306 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:34:48pm

re: #304 BishopX

That's what happens to people on the east coast...there tends to be pretty strong ethnic communities and less intermarriage than out west (it helps that there are more recent immigrants).

So you're saying i shouldn't have married my 1st cousin!?!?!

307 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:35:01pm

re: #293 dragonfire1981
Thanks for the honest question.

So again, back to the original question: What are you trying to accomplish with all the posts?

I'm discussing the news and sharing information on a popular political movement. At first people told me that Occupy was just spiffy and my posts didn't accurately represent the reality of the movement. As evidence piled up they accused me of obsessing. The complained every time I posted about an occupy rape but suddenly yesterday rape became a popular topic again because a Tea Partier was arrested. I find the double standard interesting. I think it would be better if we all opposed political violence and rape regardless of the politics of perpetrators.
McCain's state about the protesters was vile and indefensible, however the threats to kill police and video of assaults on officers is a much more serious issue in my opinion.

308 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:36:45pm

re: #280 Tourquoise Supremacist

Cops attacking people with barricades. Was pushed to ground and my breast grabbed by an NYPD. Bit hurt but am ok.
Laurie Penny

The officer may once have been threatened by a breast-wielding mugger.

309 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:37:08pm

Ah. Only political violence. Got it.

310 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:37:27pm

re: #304 BishopX

That's what happens to people on the east coast...there tends to be pretty strong ethnic communities and less intermarriage than out west (it helps that there are more recent immigrants).

I'm not sure about that. My father's side came over from Argentina 50 years ago. Soon after that one of my uncles married my aunt from Cuba and another uncle married my other aunt from Poland. This all happened in Brooklyn.

311 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:37:53pm

re: #305 erik_t

At the very least, I loathe that the PRC makes so many of them. Between their human rights abuses, their bullying of neighbors, their piracy of damn near everything, and the government's duplicity, I have a hard time accepting our national symbol being made there.

312 BishopX  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:38:11pm

re: #306 sattv4u2

not surprising since you lived in Everett.

//

313 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:38:40pm

McCain is now saying that I "sided with Occupy against the NYPD," in a totally incoherent rant about the "Red Menace:" Humor-Deficient Charles Johnson Sides With #Occupy Movement vs. NYPD : The Other McCain.

314 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:39:53pm

re: #304 BishopX

My Mom comes from Pittsburgh, and her family caught damn near every group that came in. My dad's side in Michigan largely stayed to themselves, with the only exception be my Norwegian Great-Grandmother.

315 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:40:01pm

re: #307 Killgore Trout

At first people told me that Occupy was just spiffy and my posts didn't accurately represent the reality of the movement.

Not intended to be a factual statement.

316 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:40:51pm

re: #312 BishopX

not surprising since you lived in Everett.

//

((shhhh,,, thats where I am right now!!))))

317 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:41:44pm

re: #307 Killgore Trout

The problem I have with the 'occupy movement' is defining who's doing what. I think it's reasonable to have a discussion about the increasing income disparity in the US, and what to do about it. Trying to hide the leadership of OWS (to avoid the unpopularity of the organized socialist parties) is a dishonest tactic, probably borrowed from Anonymous, which is going to fail in the long run.

318 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:41:50pm

re: #313 Charles Johnson

... the only good Commie is a dead Commie.
Has such a perspective become archaic or obsolete, merely because the Soviet Union collapsed into the ash-heap of history 20 years ago? Or, as I think, is it important to remember the deadly evil that Marx and Lenin unleashed upon mankind, and to stand vigilant against any prospect of its recrudescence?

And once again the communism boogeyman is used to excuse any violence "necessary" to stop it.

319 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:41:59pm

re: #313 Charles Johnson

McCain is now saying that I "sided with Occupy against the NYPD," in a totally incoherent rant about the "Red Menace:" Humor-Deficient Charles Johnson Sides With #Occupy Movement vs. NYPD : The Other McCain.

Damn. Now there's one manic driven rant if I ever saw one.

320 Stanghazi  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:42:32pm

re: #294 prairiefire

Austerity now, austerity for the trip!

321 Lidane  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:43:46pm

re: #313 Charles Johnson

McCain is now saying that I "sided with Occupy against the NYPD," in a totally incoherent rant about the "Red Menace:" Humor-Deficient Charles Johnson Sides With #Occupy Movement vs. NYPD : The Other McCain.

What "Red Menace" is there anymore? The Soviet Union is gone. The Eastern bloc of nations are all dealing with varying forms of democracy that aren't communist. Even China might be a totalitarian regime, but they're capitalist enough to build all our shit.

I don't understand the communist bugaboo still being around anymore. WTF.

322 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:43:57pm

Humor-Deficient!

323 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:44:07pm

re: #291 Killgore Trout

Well I did want to stress that it really doesn't mean anything if I don't reply to something. People day all kinds of outrageous things about me these days, too many to bother addressing much of the time. It often just perpetuates these fake outrages.

Obdicut is not the type to peddle "OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!1" stuff, and you damn well know it.

324 Lidane  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:44:43pm

re: #322 jaunte

Humor-Deficient!

SATIRE!

325 erik_t  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:44:55pm

re: #318 Tourquoise Supremacist

And once again the communism boogeyman is used to excuse any violence "necessary" to stop it.

Is Glorious Capitalism A+ USA #1 the #FF.FF.FF or the pitch blackest of black inside a black hole in interstellar space after the heat death of the universe and everyone turned out the lights?

I can't keep track.

326 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:45:06pm

re: #317 jaunte

The main problem Occupy had-- as many people noted from the outset-- is that it was a mix of people who wanted to engage with the political system to enact change and ideological non-voters who condemned both Republicans and Democrats and didn't see any gain in engaging with the democratic system. That's what I found when I went down and talked with them. I didn't think there would be any way to bridge that divide, and there wasn't.

In addition, the tactic of Occupying a public space immediately turns the biggest question into a logistical one-- how will you actually remain there? It turns attention away from the actual point of why you're there, to just the fact that you're there.

But criticism like this is obviously too mushy and silly, I should be calling people Marxist trust-funders and laughing about them getting pepper-sprayed. Reasonable critique is for pansies.

327 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:45:14pm

re: #321 Lidane

What "Red Menace" is there anymore? The Soviet Union is gone. The Eastern bloc of nations are all dealing with varying forms of democracy that aren't communist. Even China might be a totalitarian regime, but they're capitalist enough to build all our shit.

I don't understand the communist bugaboo still being around anymore. WTF.

The deranged neo-Confederate racist is deranged, that's all there is to it.

328 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:45:48pm

re: #317 jaunte

The problem I have with the 'occupy movement' is defining who's doing what. I think it's reasonable to have a discussion about the increasing income disparity in the US, and what to do about it. Trying to hide the leadership of OWS (to avoid the unpopularity of the organized socialist parties) is a dishonest tactic, probably borrowed from Anonymous, which is going to fail in the long run.

It's also an issue that I care about as well. Income inequity is a problem and OWS isn't helping. It would be better if these protests died out and went away to be replaced with something more constructive. But that's not going to happen any time soon. They're still oddly fixated with camping in parks. Idiots.

329 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:45:51pm

re: #321 Lidane

What "Red Menace" is there anymore? The Soviet Union is gone. The Eastern bloc of nations are all dealing with varying forms of democracy that aren't communist. Even China might be a totalitarian regime, but they're capitalist enough to build all our shit.

I don't understand the communist bugaboo still being around anymore. WTF.

WOLVERINES!

330 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:46:23pm
Raised during the Cold War — when my uncles and cousins and neighbors were fighting the Viet Cong and the NVA, when American troops stood on guard against that doomsday moment when the Red Army decided to make a try for the Fulda Gap, when any blink of an eye might bring down a worldwide thermonuclear Armaggedon upon us — I developed a profound loathing of communism.

Born in 1959... what a POSER!

331 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:46:40pm

re: #321 Lidane

The problem is judeo-liberals like the neo-Marxist Brandeis, according to some absolute shitheads.

Seriously, red-baiting and Jew-baiting usually go hand-in-hand.

332 erik_t  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:47:09pm

I'm still a little unclear why we're talking about OWS in the present tense, any more than we talk about the Tea Party in the present tense. There might be a few fringe clingers-on, but does either movement exist in any meaningful sense at this point?

333 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:47:46pm

re: #326 Obdicut

The main problem Occupy had-- as many people noted from the outset-- is that it was a mix of people who wanted to engage with the political system to enact change and ideological non-voters who condemned both Republicans and Democrats and didn't see any gain in engaging with the democratic system. That's what I found when I went down and talked with them. I didn't think there would be any way to bridge that divide, and there wasn't.

In addition, the tactic of Occupying a public space immediately turns the biggest question into a logistical one-- how will you actually remain there? It turns attention away from the actual point of why you're there, to just the fact that you're there.

But criticism like this is obviously too mushy and silly, I should be calling people Marxist trust-funders and laughing about them getting pepper-sprayed. Reasonable critique is for pansies.

You are no species of pansy. You're firm and fight with conviction and good arguments.

334 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:48:29pm

re: #327 Tourquoise Supremacist

The deranged neo-Confederate racist is deranged, that's all there is to it.

That whole manic screed of McCain's can be compacted into one single sentence, "the only good commie is a dead commie." He's also making this wild assumption that all of the OWS protesters are "communists" to begin with which is simply not true. He must be on his 50th Mt. Dew of the day.

335 The Yankee  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:48:33pm

re: #307 Killgore Trout

Thanks for the honest question.

I'm discussing the news and sharing information on a popular political movement. At first people told me that Occupy was just spiffy and my posts didn't accurately represent the reality of the movement. As evidence piled up they accused me of obsessing. The complained every time I posted about an occupy rape but suddenly yesterday rape became a popular topic again because a Tea Partier was arrested. I find the double standard interesting. I think it would be better if we all opposed political violence and rape regardless of the politics of perpetrators.
McCain's state about the protesters was vile and indefensible, however the threats to kill police and video of assaults on officers is a much more serious issue in my opinion.

You do realize that some of the rapes were made up.

[Link: current.com...]

336 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:48:56pm

re: #332 erik_t

The Tea Party exists in that they successfully got a bunch of people elected and swung the GOP quite a bit to the right. OWS has had little or no impact on the Democrats.

The comparison should not be between the Tea Party and OWS, but the GOP and OWS. The GOP are a bunch of radicals too, the main difference being they have actual political power in this country.

337 blueraven  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:49:00pm

re: #291 Killgore Trout

Well I did want to stress that it really doesn't mean anything if I don't reply to something. People day all kinds of outrageous things about me these days, too many to bother addressing much of the time. It often just perpetuates these fake outrages.

Good grief, what a load of sniveling crap.

338 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:49:02pm

re: #321 Lidane

I don't understand the communist bugaboo still being around anymore. WTF.

The problem is the OWS organizers look like something off of Glenn Beck's chalkboard. I'd forgotten that real Marxists and communists were still even around.

339 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:49:09pm

re: #331 Obdicut

The problem is judeo-liberals like the neo-Marxist Brandeis, according to some absolute shitheads.

Seriously, red-baiting and Jew-baiting usually go hand-in-hand.

WACL.

Also:

After communists, most of all I hate anti-communists.

- Sergey Dovlatov

340 erik_t  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:51:40pm

re: #336 Obdicut

The Tea Party exists in that they successfully got a bunch of people elected and swung the GOP quite a bit to the right. OWS has had little or no impact on the Democrats.

The comparison should not be between the Tea Party and OWS, but the GOP and OWS. The GOP are a bunch of radicals too, the main difference being they have actual political power in this country.

I don't mean to equate the movements in any context except their flash-in-the-pan demographic existence.

341 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:51:42pm

re: #335 The Yankee

You do realize that some of the rapes were made up.

[Link: current.com...]

I'd seen that but I'm uninterested in whatever list Breitbart was pushing so I haven't fact checked it. It wouldn't surprise me if he faked some stuff.
I got my stories from real news outlets.

342 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:51:57pm

re: #330 jaunte

Born in 1959... what a POSER!

To be fair, that would have him in his early 20's during Ronald Reagan's first term, when the SS-20s were aimed at western Europe and the Soviet threat was grave. But he still lays it on thick, and ignores that it is possible to loath communism while still not wanting to hurt actual people, even if those people are communists.

343 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:52:05pm

re: #339 Tourquoise Supremacist

WACL.

Awesome, a bunch of antisemite shitheads I didn't even know existed. What the fuck, South Korea? Didn't you love Kissinger to death?

344 The Yankee  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:53:19pm

re: #317 jaunte

The problem I have with the 'occupy movement' is defining who's doing what. I think it's reasonable to have a discussion about the increasing income disparity in the US, and what to do about it. Trying to hide the leadership of OWS (to avoid the unpopularity of the organized socialist parties) is a dishonest tactic, probably borrowed from Anonymous, which is going to fail in the long run.

How do you know they didn't borrow the tactic from the leaderless Tea Partiers?

345 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:54:39pm

re: #342 Dark_Falcon

He's making a claim of personal profundity for an experience that was shared by hundreds of millions of people, which adds to his silliness.

346 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:55:38pm

re: #330 jaunte

Born in 1959... what a POSER!

And then next paragraph is even worse:

It was a highlight of my journalism career when the news came across the wire that former CPUSA chairman Gus Hall had died, and it was my honor to write his obituary, thus bringing good news to the world because, as every patriotic red-blooded American knows, the only good Commie is a dead Commie.

(Italics in original)

To be gleeful at the death of another human being is the sign of deep sickness of the mind.

347 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:55:47pm

re: #342 Dark_Falcon

To be fair, that would have him in his early 20's during Ronald Reagan's first term, when the SS-20s were aimed at western Europe and the Soviet threat was grave. But he still lays it on thick, and ignores that it is possible to loath communism while still not wanting to hurt actual people, even if those people are communists.

Indeed. Commies shouldn't be anywhere near power, but their ideology is not necessarily inherently hateful, unlike that of the Nazis.

348 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:56:34pm

re: #346 Dark_Falcon

And then next paragraph is even worse:

(Italics in original)

To be gleeful at the death of another human being is the sign of deep sickness of the mind.

Uh. Don't be too speedy with that conclusion. Hitler, Bin Laden... ;)

349 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:58:38pm

re: #346 Dark_Falcon

And then next paragraph is even worse:

(Italics in original)

To be gleeful at the death of another human being is the sign of deep sickness of the mind.

Wow. What a "warrior". He wrote an obituary for Gus Hall. RS McCain is truly a very brave man. "Highlight of my journalism career." An obscure obituary for a once forgotten leader of the CPUSA. What do you expect from a man that's still fighting the Civil War in his mind.

350 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:59:26pm

re: #349 Gus

"Highlight of my journalism career."

Well, that part is true.

351 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:59:42pm

re: #349 Gus

Wow. What a "warrior". He wrote an obituary for Gus Hall. RS McCain is truly a very brave man. "Highlight of my journalism career." An obscure obituary for a once forgotten leader of the CPUSA. What do you expect from a man that's still fighting the Civil War in his mind.

I guess if he stole a candy from a toddler, he would think himself the biggest supervillain in the world.

352 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:03:09pm

re: #249 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator

You saw it coming. McCain quotes himself:

Therefore if I were the commander of the NYPD riot squad, my orders would be to open fire and shoot to kill. We’d make Kent State look like a Sunday school picnic.

353 Gus  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:04:42pm

re: #350 jaunte

"Highlight of my journalism career."

Well, that part is true.

Here it is in its full glory!

Pulitzer prize winning territory!

//

354 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:05:23pm

re: #353 Gus

Here it is in its full glory!

Pulitzer prize winning territory!

//

For the Washington Times, no less.

355 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:05:29pm

re: #353 Gus

Here it is in its full glory!

Pulitzer prize winning territory!

//

HA
HA
HA
HA
HA
(x1000)

356 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:05:39pm
357 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:07:46pm

re: #356 Charles Johnson

LOL for real at RS McCain. His insult is so lame its comical.

358 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:08:55pm

re: #353 Gus

The 1937 Steelworker's strike he talks about was the scene of the Memorial Day massacre of 1937 where cops shot and killed ten unarmed union protesters after a tree branch was thrown at them.

359 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:09:32pm

Here's what looks like a close up view of the occupier who punched the cop being arrested

Youtube Video

Skip to about 2:00

Looks like a pretty standard arrest for someone who's resisting. No sign of the claimed police brutality.

360 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:10:23pm

re: #348 Tourquoise Supremacist

Uh. Don't be too speedy with that conclusion. Hitler, Bin Laden... ;)

One can be glad the dirtbag is dead while still not thinking it cause to be happy. Be glad the great deed is done and the world made better, but do not rejoice in bloodshed. Its a fine distinction, I know, but I think it a necessary one.

361 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:10:41pm

Here are the commies who I disagree with but don't wish them dead since there is simply no reason for this:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

362 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:12:34pm

re: #352 wrenchwench

You saw it coming. McCain quotes himself:

How fortunate then, Robby, that the NYPD takes care to exclude violent fanatics such as yourself from its ranks.

/spits

363 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:13:26pm

re: #362 Dark_Falcon

He would fail the mental test.

364 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:14:28pm

re: #358 Obdicut

Edit: Different place, same organizations calling the strike. Guess he's talking about Youngstown, Ohio, which was not one of the more violent strikes so I have no clue why McCain was asserting it was-- thus my confusion. It was a sit-down strike, the strikers got tear-gassed, a couple got shot, but there wasn't mass violence.

365 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:17:46pm

Once again I have to say I'm very skeptical of the long list of claims about police brutality that was posted upthread, Going through the youtube videos it's mostly just the punchy and the guy getting his head smashed against the door. Both were resisting, The head smash might be more questionable but I doubt he'll win a court case on that.
Police brutality is serious and the steady stream of false accusations isn't helpful.

366 jaunte  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:18:20pm

re: #353 Gus

Mr. Hall’s 1995 report to the CPUSA convention denounced House Speaker Newt Gingrich as leader of the “extreme right fascist-like forces who took over the Republican Party.”

Heh.

"I have enormous personal ambition. I want to shift the entire planet. And I’m doing it. I am now a famous person. I represent real power."
-- Newt Gingrich

What to do about the problem of homelessness?
"Give the park police more ammo."
-- Newt Gingrich

"Look, I think there is a gay and secular fascism in this country that wants to impose its will on the rest of us, is prepared to use violence, to use harassment. I think it is prepared to use the government if it can get control of it. I think that it is a very dangerous threat to anybody who believes in traditional religion."
-- Newt Gingrich

367 Obdicut  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:19:08pm

re: #365 Killgore Trout

And the reporter's personal accounts you discount because..?

368 Kronocide  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:19:50pm

re: #307 Killgore Trout

I'm discussing the news and sharing information on a popular political movement. At first people told me that Occupy was just spiffy and my posts didn't accurately represent the reality of the movement. As evidence piled up they accused me of obsessing. The complained every time I posted about an occupy rape but suddenly yesterday rape became a popular topic again because a Tea Partier was arrested. I find the double standard interesting. I think it would be better if we all opposed political violence and rape regardless of the politics of perpetrators.
McCain's state about the protesters was vile and indefensible, however the threats to kill police and video of assaults on officers is a much more serious issue in my opinion.

This is the most intellectually dishonest post I believe I've ever read from you. I recall great ambivalence about OWS from the beginning, acknowledging the gripes giving rise to OWS, from a large contingent of Lizards here.

You cannot understand the people were complaining about you complaining about all the rapes and implying it was an OWS issue.

That was about you and your mission, not about rape. Either you don't get that, or you do get it and keep picking that scab with disingenuous comments. Which is actually worse.

And now you're continuing with a meme that a large contingent of Lizards care much less about rape if its from a leftist. And you're being ostracized for pointing out this perceived double standard.

I don't buy it.

369 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:21:56pm

re: #367 Obdicut

And the reporter's personal accounts you discount because..?

Which reporter?

370 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:25:27pm

re: #367 Obdicut

And the reporter's personal accounts you discount because..?

Ah, I see. Some of those tweets were from reporters. Well, if the stories are accurate then video will show up. Everybody in those crowds is filming.

371 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:27:11pm

re: #365 Killgore Trout

Once again I have to say I'm very skeptical of the long list of claims about police brutality that was posted upthread, Going through the youtube videos it's mostly just the punchy and the guy getting his head smashed against the door. Both were resisting, The head smash might be more questionable but I doubt he'll win a court case on that.
Police brutality is serious and the steady stream of false accusations isn't helpful.

It's not intended to help deal with the actual problem. False accusations fall into two categories:

1. Honest people who do not understand how hard it is to arrest someone who is not willing to cooperate. Such people do not understand that the police often have to club, pepper-spray, tase, or knock down someone who is resisting in a crowd. If it were only one person the cops could take their time and be less harsh, but when they have a largely hostile crowd around them they need to quickly subdue the arrestee to keep themselves from being piled onto by others in the crowd. A person complaining of police brutality who honestly does not understand this reality is ignorant, and quite likely foolish, but not necessarily a bad person.

2. Dishonest people who put out false reports of brutality to blacken the reputation of the police. The reasons for this vary, but mostly they involve forcing the police to back off so that some other power can make itself felt on the streets. This sort of dishonest complaint is the mark of someone acting in bad faith, usually either an asshole or a fanatic.

373 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:30:54pm

re: #371 Dark_Falcon

I think there's also a 3rd category.:delusional. It's seem to be part of the tactic to attack police and start screaming instantly about police brutality. I'm sure some of it's dishonest but my guess is a lot of people really believe the evil cops are beating them without cause.

374 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:33:39pm

re: #373 Killgore Trout

I think there's also a 3rd category.:delusional. It's seem to be part of the tactic to attack police and start screaming instantly about police brutality. I'm sure some of it's dishonest but my guess is a lot of people really believe the evil cops are beating them without cause.

I can accept that as valid. Some, though clearly not a majority, of the OWS protestors are conspiracists, and that as a rule means that their mind is running from reality. Seeing the NYPD as evil oppressors feeds their delusion. Your addition is accepted.

375 prairiefire  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 4:36:53pm

re: #336 Obdicut

The Tea Party exists in that they successfully got a bunch of people elected and swung the GOP quite a bit to the right. OWS has had little or no impact on the Democrats.

The comparison should not be between the Tea Party and OWS, but the GOP and OWS. The GOP are a bunch of radicals too, the main difference being they have actual political power in this country.

I would argue that the OWS movement has had a more extensive effect of defining the narrative then the TP. "1% vs Us, the 99%" by its very nature is a narrative with a broader appeal.

376 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 5:04:00pm

re: #367 Obdicut

He discounts them because they are against people he doesn't like. He probably has a gleeful response to the 1937 Strike Shootings mentioned earlier.

377 b_Snark  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 5:30:13pm

re: #361 Tourquoise Supremacist

Here are the commies who I disagree with but don't wish them dead since there is simply no reason for this:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Marxism is an interesting philosophical ideal, but it's as naive and ignorant of human psychology as is Ron Paul's libertarian free market.

378 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 7:58:43pm

re: #332 erik_t

I'm still a little unclear why we're talking about OWS in the present tense, any more than we talk about the Tea Party in the present tense. There might be a few fringe clingers-on, but does either movement exist in any meaningful sense at this point?

Hard to tell. There are still people DOING things. Here in the Bay Area, they've essentially become indistinguishable from much of the rest of the mass of the activist community/fringe left/etc. Same leadership, same goals, same basic mass of organization.


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