Right Wing Journalism Fail: Breitbart.com Interviews ‘Bono’

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This is just classic. Last night, the geniuses at breitbart.com were trumpeting a HUGE EXCLUSIVE STORY, in which their ambush specialist Jason Mattera scored an EXCLUSIVE interview with U2 singer Bono.

Only problem with this BOMBSHELL: it wasn’t Bono. Apparently, Mattera encountered a guy with an Irish accent wearing sunglasses who looked sort of like Bono, and conducted an EXCLUSIVE BOMBSHELL INTERVIEW that blew up in his face: ‘DC’s Bad Boy Reporter’ Ambushes Bono Impersonator by Accident.

(Update: actually, this Bono impersonator doesn’t even have an Irish accent.)

When the mini-Breits realized that they had been bamboozled, they just 404ed the page, with no retraction or statement of any kind, and marked the video “private” at YouTube to hide the evidence of their hilarious screw-up.

But of course, the Internet never forgets, and now the heirs of Andrew are stuck in a moment they can’t get out of. Here’s a transcript of this BOMBSHELL EXCLUSIVE:

Mattera: By dodging taxes on royalties are you raiding the poverty programs you purport to champion?

Bono: No.

Mattera: No? Don’t you want governments to be generous with other people’s money and not yours?

Bono: I don’t have control over that… 

Mattera: How do you not have control over that? It’s your company. Are you not in charge of your own company?

Bono: It’s not my company.

Mattera: You have no say in what U2 does?

Bono: Not particularly.

Mattera: You don’t? You don’t have a say in what U2 does?

Bono: No.

Help — I’ve started laughing and can’t seem to stop. Looks like it’s not going to be A Beautiful Day for the Breitbrats.

What a bunch of idiots.

(And by the way, these right wing masterminds still have not fixed the millions of broken links at their sites.)

(h/t: Silvio.)

UPDATE at 3/21/12 9:48:56 am

And now, the video they tried to hide:

Video

(h/t: Gus.)

UPDATE at 3/21/12 10:27:49 am

Correction: buried at breitbart.com, we find an Editors’ Note by Joel Pollak that admits no mistake:

Last night, we removed an article about Bono at the request of the videographer who had provided the links to the videos upon which the article had been based.

These people are pathologically unable to admit any errors, even one as ridiculous as this.

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104 comments
1 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:15:12am

This is freaking hilarious. Epic fail! Love it.

2 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:15:38am

"Bring out yer dead!"

3 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:16:30am

I needed a laugh. Wow. Poor guy, I almost feel bad for him. Journalism is hard!

4 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:18:00am

So maybe the guys that used to do the GOP website are now IT at Brietbart?

5 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:21:00am

Consequences will never be the same.

6 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:21:20am

A new phrase for incompetent winger journalism is born: Pulling a Bono.

7 AK-47%  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:22:21am

This is what AB's brand of "modern investigative journalism" has brought us to: no professional standards, no journalistic standards, no ethical standards, no f*cking clue.

These folks are doing a bang-up job of honoring his legacy, aren't they?

8 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:22:42am

Image: 129154268829384858.jpg

9 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:23:27am

Breitbart wept.

10 bluecheese  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:24:17am

one failboat after another in the fail parade that is breitbart.com.


lol

11 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:24:53am

re: #9 Alaska Martyrs' Brigades

Breitbart wept.

Technically, "oozing" isn't the same as "weeping".

12 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:25:32am

re: #11 Pope Ron Polyp XXXVII

Dude, bad taste. That's ghoulish.

13 neilk  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:26:50am

I'm enjoying the utter lack of MSM reaction to this. Message: You guys had so little credibility that this isn't even surprising.

14 blueraven  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:27:36am

Priceless!

15 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:27:41am

This is pretty funny!

He could have tried spin it by saying "Bono is so one-dimensional few can tell a fake one from a real one." That would be better than the 404. People would wonder if he was in in the joke.

16 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:28:24am

re: #12 Obdicut

Dude, bad taste. That's ghoulish.

Eh. Don't want to be called slimy? Don't act slimy.

17 Archangelus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:28:26am

Damn, I needed that. Was laughing so hard I was momentarily worried that the neighbors actually called the cops to complain when a police car with an active siren passed by the building... :)

18 neilk  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:28:30am

From that transcript, it seems like the impersonator is not aware of what the interviewer thinks is happening.

19 iossarian  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:29:05am

re: #15 ReamWorks

This is pretty funny!

He could spin it by saying "Bono is so one-dimensional few can tell a fake one from a real one."

I've got an even better spin:

"I'm an incompetent right-wing douchebag hack who'll say anything to get noticed, and fuck the consequences!"

Oh, wait, that's not spin.

20 erik_t  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:31:49am

I anxiously await bold new Interview ID legislation to combat the terrible danger to society posed by Interview Fraud.

21 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:33:25am

Next you'll tell me that this isn't really Walt Mossberg:

Youtube Video
22 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:33:33am

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

23 b_sharp  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:33:45am

You're all heartless bastages. Can't you see how confused the Breitbartians are?

They've awoken from their Winter Stupor® too soon.

24 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:35:51am

re: #22 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

BWAHAHAHAHAHA


Official Seal of the GOP 2012 Election.

25 darthstar  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:37:39am

If you've seen one Bono you've seen them all.

Not to be outdone by Breitbart's orphans, Mitt Romney's spokesman likened his candidate to an Etch-a-sketch on CNN this morning.

Youtube Video
26 erik_t  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:38:09am

re: #25 darthstar

If you've seen one Bono you've seen them all.

Not to be outdone y Breitbart's orphans, Mitt Romney's spokesman likened his candidate to an Etch-a-sketch on CNN this morning.

I think you meant to type Bozo.

27 b_sharp  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:38:43am

re: #24 Varek Raith


Official Seal of the GOP 2012 Election.

I thought this was their Official Seal.

28 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:39:29am

re: #26 erik_t

I think you meant to type Bozo.

I think we're all Bonos on this bus.

29 AK-47%  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:42:16am

But is he Bono-fide?

30 b_sharp  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:42:47am

re: #28 wrenchwench

I think we're all Bonos on this bus.

We'd have way more fun on this bus if we were Bonobos.

31 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:43:59am

re: #30 Much Ado About Nuttin

We'd have way more fun on this bus if we were Bonobos.

I didn't come from no ape!

32 philosophus invidius  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:44:41am

I guess no one saved the video. I'd like to see that one.

33 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:45:14am

Here's the video!

[Link: www.ebaumsworld.com...]

34 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:45:38am

So, this guy just happened to think he saw Bono walking around someplace and thought he'd interview him? ??

35 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:46:44am

re: #34 Bulworth

So, this guy just happened to think he saw Bono walking around someplace and thought he'd interview him? ??

Do major rock stars usually just walk around in public? I know that Michael Jordan had said he was literally unable to do things like go to the mall.

36 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:47:12am

I saw a bunch of tweets from wingnuts this morning, gleefully parroting one of the stalkers who wrote "HUGE BLOW to Charles Johnson! Toulouse Killer linked to Al Qaeda!"

(All the stalkers are in my Tweetdeck global filter, so I only see the retweets from other wingnuts.)

Apparently it's now an article of faith that I was sure the Toulouse killer was a Nazi. The fact that I didn't write a SINGLE WORD about this incident is irrelevant in wingnut fantasy land.

Morons.

37 zora  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:47:22am

re: #25 darthstar

If you've seen one Bono you've seen them all.

Not to be outdone by Breitbart's orphans, Mitt Romney's spokesman likened his candidate to an Etch-a-sketch on CNN this morning.

[Embedded content]

he hit that one of the head. etch a sketch mitt. ha!

38 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:48:22am

re: #37 zora

#Romneytoys now trending on Twitter.

39 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:49:01am

re: #33 Gus

Here's the video!

[Link: www.ebaumsworld.com...]

He got his autograph! Proof of identity!

40 AK-47%  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:49:41am

I think the spin on this would be that he nonetheless takes advantages of tax shelters while advocating more government programs.

But the main message still remains that these guys are goombahs with no standards, professional, journalistic or moral.

41 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:50:27am

re: #35 To hold my temper, most of the time.

Do major rock stars usually just walk around in public? I know that Michael Jordan had said he was literally unable to do things like go to the mall.

I eagerly await the upcoming BOMBSHELL man-on-the-street interview with George Clooney. //

42 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:51:53am

re: #35 To hold my temper, most of the time.

I do a lot of work for Hollywood companies, and am in and around LA a lot (In fact, I'm at the airport right now waiting for the next flight to Burbank airport.)

I'm lousy at recognizing people, but some of my colleagues are good at it. It would be odd to see Bono just walking around in public without a staff. Most likely he gets in a car, with a driver waiting, and gets whisked from point to point. I'd really doubt that he'd just start talking to someone who shoved a camera in his face.

But you'll see all the B-List, C-List, and D-Listers all over the place (like I saw Guy Fieri chugging away recently on an elliptical in a hotel gym).

43 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:52:34am

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Apparently it's now an article of faith that I was sure the Toulouse killer was a Nazi. The fact that I didn't write a SINGLE WORD about this incident is irrelevant in wingnut fantasy land.

Morons.

They've advanced to mind reading. Unfortunately, they're illiterate in that language, too.

44 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:53:38am

So I tweeted that I didn't write a single word about the Toulouse incident, and this is the reaction:

45 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:53:52am

Reload the page to see the replies...

46 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:54:34am

Never mind - here's the reply:

47 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:55:16am

re: #36 Charles Johnson

I saw a bunch of tweets from wingnuts this morning, gleefully parroting one of the stalkers who wrote "HUGE BLOW to Charles Johnson! Toulouse Killer linked to Al Qaeda!"

(All the stalkers are in my Tweetdeck global filter, so I only see the retweets from other wingnuts.)

Apparently it's now an article of faith that I was sure the Toulouse killer was a Nazi. The fact that I didn't write a SINGLE WORD about this incident is irrelevant in wingnut fantasy land.

Morons.

I was sure the Toulouse killer was a Nazi. Had good reasons, too.

I was wrong.

I was sure that Breivik was a Islamic fundamentalist group. I had good reasons for that.

And I was wrong.

BTW, as far as I can tell, Debbie Schlussel has still not updated her website to reflect the fact that the man who shot Rusty Sneiderman was not a 'follower of Mohammed'. I mention this since Debbie Schlussel sometimes shows up here when I reference her, and I think it would be nice if she did something about that.

48 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:55:16am
49 b_sharp  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:55:49am

re: #31 wrenchwench

I didn't come from no ape!

That is quite true.

50 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:55:58am
51 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:57:25am

Racial hierarchy?

52 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:58:05am

Right! I just loves me some "Muslim murderers!"

What the hell is wrong with these people? Both of those idiots are now in the global filter too.

53 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 9:58:35am

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

I was sure the Toulouse killer was a Nazi. Had good reasons, too.

I was wrong.

I was sure that Breivik was a Islamic fundamentalist group. I had good reasons for that.

And I was wrong.

BTW, as far as I can tell, Debbie Schlussel has still not updated her website to reflect the fact that the man who shot Rusty Sneiderman was not a 'follower of Mohammed'. I mention this since Debbie Schlussel sometimes shows up here when I reference her, and I think it would be nice if she did something about that.

Exactly. We all get stories wrong from time to time. It's how you react to being wrong that really counts.

54 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:00:06am

Suspect arrested in Firebombing of senators office

55 philosophus invidius  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:00:24am

re: #51 wrenchwench

You know, supporting a president who steals all the good white people's money to give to lazy black people
/

56 jaunte  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:01:07am

re: #51 wrenchwench

Racial hierarchy?

Grumpy white dude victim-speak.

57 makeitstop  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:02:44am

re: #33 Gus

Here's the video!

[Link: www.ebaumsworld.com...]

That doesn't even look like Bono.

Seeing the video moves this one from 'simple fail' to 'ultra-mega-fail.' Mattera is not your everyday idiot. He's in the idiot elite.

58 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:05:29am

Toulouse siege:

"Mehar told negotiators he envisaged other murders, including one this morning of a soldier outside his home. He had other criminal projects, including two policemen in Toulouse, he expresses no regret except not to have killed any other victims and claims to have brought France to its knees," said Paris prosecutor François Molins.
He said he doesn’t have the "soul of suicide bomber - was happy to kill but not die for cause. He was a loner who was capable of staying locked in at home for long periods and fantasied on ultra-violent internet clips such as beheadings, the prosecutor said.
He helped police trace a Renault Megan rented in March, which contained a revolver, a scattergun, an Uzi, and ammunition.

59 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:07:10am

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Right! I just loves me some "Muslim murderers!"

BREAKING!!! CHARLES JOHNSON ADMITS HE LOVES MUSLIM MURDERERS!!!1

60 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:10:06am

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Toulouse siege:

He was a loner who was capable of staying locked in at home for long periods and fantasied on ultra-violent internet clips such as beheadings, the prosecutor said.

A loner?

13.43 Explosives have been found in a car belonging to the gunman's brother, AFP reports

So much for that idea.

61 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:10:10am

re: #59 Charles Johnson

BREAKING!!! CHARLES JOHNSON ADMITS HE LOVES MUSLIM MURDERERS!!!1

Mayo or ketchup? //

62 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:11:44am

Glenn Beck's website has gone into full "blame-the-victim" mode for the killing of Trayvon Martin.

And get a load of the URL they posted for the story:

tawana-brawley-2-0-al-sharpton-sides-with-aggressor-in-self-defense-case

63 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:12:15am

re: #54 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Suspect arrested in Firebombing of senators office

Man accused of setting fire at Sen. Wendy Davis' office had visited twice in past week

A man living in an abandoned building, who had twice visited Sen. Wendy Davis' office in the past week, has been arrested in the firebombing of her Fort Worth office on Tuesday.

About 4 p.m., two staff workers noticed smoke and when they opened the door in the third-floor office, discovered waist-high flames. They managed to reach a fire extinguisher and put out the flames.

A man identified as Sedrick Steele was arrested around 11 p.m. and charged with arson. Police said they discovered empty bottles, wicks and an empty lighter fluid can in an abandoned building where he was living.

Steele had visited the office and asked to speak to Davis earlier, and was described by the staff as erratic. When he was informed she was unavailable in both visits, he told the staff that, "They would soon be reading about him in the news."

64 b_sharp  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:12:47am

re: #61 Alaska Martyrs' Brigades

Mayo or ketchup? //

Colon Cleanser Hot Sauce!

65 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:13:17am

re: #64 Much Ado About Nuttin

Colon Cleanser Hot Sauce!

Santorum!

66 Lidane  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:13:42am

re: #62 RadicalModerate

Glenn Beck's website has gone into full "blame-the-victim" mode for the killing of Trayvon Martin.

Because a kid walking home from the store with candy and a drink is totally to blame for the fact that a racist, gun-wielding maniac followed him in a car then chased him on foot and attacked and killed him.

What the fuck.

67 Lidane  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:15:14am

In re: the fake Bono interview, LOL forever. These mini-Breitbarts are fucking morons.

They deserve every bit of ridicule and scorn they get over this.

68 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:15:29am

re: #63 NJDhockeyfan

Man accused of setting fire at Sen. Wendy Davis' office had visited twice in past week

Hmmm, looking like it might just be a mentally ill homeless guy and not a wingnut.

69 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:15:43am

Notverybrightbrats.

70 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:16:09am

re: #67 Lidane

In re: the fake Bono interview, LOL forever. These mini-Breitbarts are fucking morons.

They deserve every bit of ridicule and scorn they get over this.

So, they lost their Google links but can't lose their phony EXCLUSIVE interview. #Winning

71 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:16:32am

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

I was sure the Toulouse killer was a Nazi. Had good reasons, too.

I was wrong.

I was sure that Breivik was a Islamic fundamentalist group. I had good reasons for that.

And I was wrong.

I'll just rephrase what I said here:

It doesn't make me happy, but I'm sort of relieved that it was a crazed jihadi instead of some new breed of Breivik-esque culture warrior. Better the devil you know and all that... I mean, we're already seen as the villains and probably will be for the foreseeable future, so we're sort of used to getting slammed. I'd rather get slammed than see the world have to deal with the alternative. *shrugs, puts on hazmat suit*

The problem is that there are people on both sides of the Atlantic who who seem to desire the alternative. Humanity doesn't need more hate—it's not like math where multiplying two negatives results in a positive.

72 AK-47%  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:17:08am

re: #66 Lidane

Because a kid walking home from the store with candy and a drink is totally to blame for the fact that a racist, gun-wielding maniac followed him in a car then chased him on foot and attacked and killed him.

What the fuck.

He claimed self-defense and the law is on his side...

73 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:17:43am

He can claim self-defense in the courtroom.

74 AK-47%  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:18:16am

re: #71 CuriousLurker

I'll just rephrase what I said here:

Humanity doesn't need more hate—it's not like math where multiplying two negatives results in a positive.

You mean two wrongs don't make a Reich?

75 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:19:02am

re: #74 Second Amendment Renegation

You mean two wrongs don't make a Reich?

Actually, they might. That's what worries me.

76 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:19:54am

re: #71 CuriousLurker

I'll just rephrase what I said here:

It doesn't make me happy, but I'm sort of relieved that it was a crazed jihadi instead of some new breed of Breivik-esque culture warrior. Better the devil you know and all that... I mean, we're already seen as the villains and probably will be for the foreseeable future, so we're sort of used to getting slammed. I'd rather get slammed than see the world have to deal with the alternative. *shrugs, puts on hazmat suit*

The problem is that there are people on both sides of the Atlantic who who seem to desire the alternative. Humanity doesn't need more hate—it's not like math where multiplying two negatives results in a positive.

BREAKING!!! CHARLES JOHNSON CURIOUSLURKER ADMITS SHE LOVES MUSLIM MURDERERS!!!1

77 AK-47%  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:20:08am

re: #73 Bulworth

He can claim self-defense in the courtroom.

And he will, and the fact that the police suppressed or failed to collect any evidence to the contgrary will result in his acquittal.

I hate to say it, but I will be surprised if this guy sees anything beyond probation or a suspended sentence. If that.

78 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:20:43am

re: #73 Bulworth

He can claim self-defense in the courtroom.

If they'll ever fucking arrest him...

79 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:20:57am

re: #76 wrenchwench

BREAKING!!! CHARLES JOHNSON CURIOUSLURKER ADMITS SHE LOVES MUSLIM MURDERERS!!!1

Hmm, wrenchwench confirms they're all a bunch of terror-lovers there.

80 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:21:26am

re: #72 Second Amendment Renegation

He claimed self-defense and the law is on his side...

Even though every indication from the 911 calls as well as from witness testimony points at Zimmerman instigating, as well as escalating the confrontation that ended with Martin's death by Zimmerman's shooting him?

81 Kragar  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:21:37am

re: #72 Second Amendment Renegation

He claimed self-defense and the law is on his side...

Martin could probably also have argued self defense, except for the fact that he's dead.

82 darthstar  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:21:55am

Too nice on the coast today...WFH is the way to go.

83 Kragar  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:22:27am

re: #77 Second Amendment Renegation

And he will, and the fact that the police suppressed or failed to collect any evidence to the contgrary will result in his acquittal.

I hate to say it, but I will be surprised if this guy sees anything beyond probation or a suspended sentence. If that.

Wouldn't that allow a civil case for wrongful death to still be prosecuted?

84 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:22:57am

re: #62 RadicalModerate

Glenn Beck's website has gone into full "blame-the-victim" mode for the killing of Trayvon Martin.

And get a load of the URL they posted for the story:

tawana-brawley-2-0-al-sharpton-sides-with-aggressor-in-self-defense-case

Can we just pretend that Al Sharpton's not there, which God knows, I wish he wasn't, and focus on the actual case?

85 AK-47%  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:23:09am

re: #81 Kragar

Martin could probably also have argued self defense, except for the fact that he's dead.

What I really want to see is a thorough investigation, not only of the shooting, but of the police "investigation" of the matter. Or am I asking too much of the American justice system?

86 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:23:17am

re: #46 Charles Johnson

Never mind - here's the reply:

[Embedded content]

OMG! You used the word "incident"! Oh wait. Looks like some news organization have as well as shown here and here.

87 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:23:29am

re: #72 Second Amendment Renegation

He claimed self-defense and the law is on his side...

Oh, sure, they would have to prove b.t.r.d. that he acted not out of self-defense. To which I say: time to gather evidence, indict him and actually start proving this in the courtroom, and let the process go as it might.

88 Lidane  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:23:44am

re: #83 Kragar

Wouldn't that allow a civil case for wrongful death to still be prosecuted?

I would think so. Hell, OJ got slapped with a wrongful death suit even though he was acquitted on murder charges.

89 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:24:01am

Going back to work. BBL

90 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:24:02am

re: #66 Lidane

Because a kid walking home from the store with candy and a drink is totally to blame for the fact that a racist, gun-wielding maniac followed him in a car then chased him on foot and attacked and killed him.

What the fuck.

Why was he wearing a hoodie? Why was he walking at night? Why did he run? Why did he get suspended from school? Why did he cut math class twice? Why was his skirt so short? (No, wait, that's from the other list.)

91 AK-47%  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:24:09am

re: #84 SanFranciscoZionist

Can we just pretend that Al Sharpton's not there, which God knows, I wish he wasn't, and focus on the actual case?

No. The point is to keep throwing out the red herrings to distract from the case, hence the ongoing discussion of whether "Hispanic" is a race or an ethnicity, etc...

92 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:25:56am

re: #68 Killgore Trout

Hmmm, looking like it might just be a mentally ill homeless guy and not a wingnut.

Aliens. Jesus Christ. Aliens.

Where does a homeless guy get the materials for a firebombing, BTW?

93 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:26:11am

re: #88 Lidane

I would think so. Hell, OJ got slapped with a wrongful death suit even though he was acquitted on murder charges.

I've read on older threads that no, you can't, if justifiable shooting is not refuted. OJ was in another state.

94 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:26:37am

Well, there goes my NFL season next year.

Commissioner Goddell lowered the hammer on New Orleans for the "bounty" scandal. Head coach Sean Payton gets a one year suspension, without pay, GM Mickey Loomis gets a half-year suspension, the team loses a first and second round draft pick this year and a second-rounder next, and fined $500,000.

[Link: espn.go.com...]

95 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:28:18am

re: #81 Kragar

Martin could probably also have argued self defense, except for the fact that he's dead.

Why do I have a feeling that if the kid had turned and gunned down the man following him, they would have arrested him, law or no law? I have this feeling.

96 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:30:25am

re: #87 Alaska Martyrs' Brigades

Oh, sure, they would have to prove b.t.r.d. that he acted not out of self-defense. To which I say: time to gather evidence, indict him and actually start proving this in the courtroom, and let the process go as it might.

Unfortunately, the controversy over Florida's "stand your ground" law is that it doesn't require someone to prove they acted in self-defense, only to argue it.

[Link: www.slate.com...]

97 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:32:49am

re: #96 Pope Ron Polyp XXXVII

Unfortunately, the controversy over Florida's "stand your ground" law is that it doesn't require someone to prove they acted in self-defense, only to argue it.

[Link: www.slate.com...]

I know this and nothing I've said contradicts it. It also means the burden of proof is on the prosecutors. Which is what I wrote.

98 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:37:49am

re: #83 Kragar

Wouldn't that allow a civil case for wrongful death to still be prosecuted?

If it's no longer a justified shoot it becomes vastly easier to pursue it. Juries are still generally not sympathetic but in this case that's less likey. Zimmerman might well settle quickly just to avoid what a jury would do.

99 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:47:06am

re: #92 SanFranciscoZionist

Aliens. Jesus Christ. Aliens.

Where does a homeless guy get the materials for a firebombing, BTW?

Incendiaries 'R Us.

(Actually, using lighter fluid is pretty low-rent, material of opportunity.)

100 S.D.  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:50:07am

...
Bwa-Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
(gasp)
What a boob!!!!!

101 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:51:26am

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist

Why do I have a feeling that if the kid had turned and gunned down the man following him, they would have arrested him, law or no law? I have this feeling.

Counter-racialist-ist!!1!

102 makeitstop  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 11:35:37am

re: #94 RadicalModerate

Well, there goes my NFL season next year.

Commissioner Goddell lowered the hammer on New Orleans for the "bounty" scandal. Head coach Sean Payton gets a one year suspension, without pay, GM Mickey Loomis gets a half-year suspension, the team loses a first and second round draft pick this year and a second-rounder next, and fined $500,000.

[Link: espn.go.com...]

You think you've got it bad? Jets traded for Tebow. I have no idea how that's gonna work.

103 thecommodore  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 12:49:55pm

Sean Hannity fell for the Bono impersonator ambush.

[Link: distriction.com...]

Gullible doesn't even begin to describe these people.

104 teresa  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:55:36pm

I know now that Breitbart.com is staffed by rejects from SarahPalin.com. Seriously. It's the only explanation for so much fail.
But it's funnier than hell!


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