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Breitbart ‘Editor’ Joel Pollak: ‘We Went Through a Vetting Process’

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New York magazine’s Joe Coscarelli spoke to breitbart.com “editor” Joel Pollak about their utterly ridiculous EXCLUSIVE BOMBSHELL INTERVIEW with “U2’s Bono” (who turned out not to be Bono).

Pollak says, “We went through a vetting process on this and appropriate questions were raised and appropriate answers were given.”

Which, if true, is actually even more pathetic than if they hadn’t, because the guy really doesn’t even look much like Bono, and not only that — he has no Irish accent. They can’t even tell an obviously fake Bono from the real one, but they’re going to “vet” the President?

“We went through a vetting process on this and appropriate questions were raised and appropriate answers were given,” breitbart.com editor Joel Pollack assured us this afternoon by phone. “But the videographer then asked us to take it down, so we did.” But Pollak said he would “neither confirm nor deny” that mistaken identity was the reason for the scrubbing.

Again, the Breitbrats prove that they’re pathologically unable to admit they screwed up, big time. Or should I say, Big Hollywood Time?

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245 comments

1 mr.fusion  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 12:54:09pm
“We went through a vetting process on this and appropriate questions were raised and appropriate answers were given.”

Obviously you didn't, and they weren't

2 Targetpractice  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 12:55:39pm

What did this "vetting process" consist of?

"Hey, are you Bono?"
"No."
"Well, you kinda look like him, so answer these questions for us!"

3 Shvaughn  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 12:55:42pm

It's pretty clear that they have no idea what the term "vetting" actually means.

4 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 12:55:51pm

Pure comedy.
Thanks guys.

5 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 12:58:12pm

re: #3 Shvaughn

It's pretty clear that they have no idea what the term "vetting" actually means.

Vell, zey're certainly vetting zeir pants right now. /

6 Iwouldprefernotto  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:00:04pm

These are the same people that want to vet President Obama.

7 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:00:37pm

He got his autograph!! That's proof of identity!! (unless he wanted to vote...)

8 Sionainn  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:01:28pm

Thanks for making me laugh. I needed it. That dude didn't even look remotely like Bono.

9 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:01:58pm

"Is he the real Bono?"

"Dammit, Jim! I'm a Vet not a..."

10 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:02:23pm

Clearly this was a false flag operation carried out under the direct orders from George Soros though Eric Boehlert and Media Matters for America in order to discredit the patriotic warriors at Breitbart.com. Any criticism and ridiculing of Joel Pollak also shows that you're all antisemitic!!!!!!!!!

11 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:02:36pm

re: #6 Iwouldprefernotto

These are the same people that want to vet President Obama.

Have at it, guys!

Image: atw-obama-cp-6117408.jpg

We'll even bring him to ya!

12 Targetpractice  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:03:39pm

I know I've met a few people in my life who could, in a dark enough room, pass for a famous celebrity. But even I'd have to ask for identification before I started "interviewing" them.

13 engineer cat  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:03:53pm

vets? bonobos?

can we watch the home improvement channel instead?

14 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:04:36pm

re: #11 Obdicut

Have at it, guys!

Image: atw-obama-cp-6117408.jpg

We'll even bring him to ya!

BIG GOVERNMENT EXCLUSIVE!
OBAMA IS CARDBOARD!
PROOF HE'S NOT AMERICAN!!!
MUSLIMS!!!!

15 bratwurst  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:06:27pm

I think Breitbart would be happy to know that his followers are continuing to uphold his own journalistic standards.

16 iossarian  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:06:53pm

I seriously doubt if this Pollak character has the straight-up sociopathy necessary to fill the Breitbart clown shoes. He's not doing nearly enough frothing at the mouth which was the unlamented one's stock-in-trade.

For his own sake, I hope he makes a swift exit from the business and goes into tax accounting or something safe like that.

17 iossarian  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:07:14pm

re: #14 Varek Raith

BIG GOVERNMENT EXCLUSIVE!
OBAMA IS CARDBOARD!
PROOF HE'S NOT AMERICAN!!!
MUSLIMS!!!

IT WAS THE REAL OBAMA I TELL YOU!

CARDBOARD!!!

18 Randall Gross  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:10:00pm

Vetting Bono like they "vetted" President Obama... this is too rich!

19 neilk  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:10:05pm

I would vet Raquel Welch. I've a feeling she'd vet me.

20 Interesting Times  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:11:10pm
21 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:11:49pm
22 neilk  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:14:01pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

That kinda makes me miss Andrew for the first time. He would've come up with something good.

23 jaunte  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:14:36pm
24 Interesting Times  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:15:18pm
25 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:15:22pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

I wonder how many links to cute lizards he has bookmarked for just such an occasion.

26 iossarian  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:15:28pm

re: #22 neilk

That kinda makes me miss Andrew for the first time. He would've come up with something good.

That's what I'm saying. He would just start shouting some nonsense accusation at the camera.

LIBERALS WANT TO FLAY THE SKIN FROM OTTER BABIES!!!

The sad thing is, it kind of worked for him. But then - heart attack.

27 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:16:50pm

re: #25 wrenchwench

I wonder how many links to cute lizards he has bookmarked for just such an occasion.

Here's a pic of me.

28 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:17:42pm

re: #27 Varek Raith

Here's a pic of me.

Cute!!

/hides

29 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:19:07pm

re: #28 wrenchwench

Cute!!

/hides

Too sexy for my armor.

30 b_sharp  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:19:28pm

re: #27 Varek Raith

Here's a pic of me.

You mean the rat in the background?

31 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:20:32pm

re: #3 Shvaughn

It's pretty clear that they have no idea what the term "vetting" actually means.

Yes but they're determined that whatever "vetting" means, the Kenyan Soshulist didn't get it. So I guess they're going to bring their vetting talents to South Beach.

32 darthstar  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:21:14pm

Hey, look on the bright side...Breitbart.com will get more than 300 visits today because of this.

33 jaunte  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:21:30pm

If this is what they imagine a vetting process consists of, no wonder they continue to imagine Obama is a Communist Muslim Kenyan.

34 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:21:54pm

re: #30 etc/init.d/mailman start

You mean the rat in the background?

No.
That's lunch.

35 zora  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:24:26pm

Jason Mattera interviews someone — is it Bono?

One of the reasons that Mattera got so little from his interview is that Sfera doesn’t do the whole Bono routine — just the look. “I wasn’t pretending to be Bono,” says Sfera. “I don’t walk around with an accent. I don’t fake people out. . . . I have a very strong, independent life, and I’m comfortable in my own skin,” he continues, noting that he has been playing “Bonodouble” for 11 years.

Sfera says he was “waiting” for Mattera to figure out that he wasn’t really Bono. That moment didn’t come, and Sfera decided not to help his interlocutor. “I let him go,” says Sfera. “I didn’t think he was being legitimate and fair.”

He added, “I think in the end he was trying to find dirt, and I wasn’t there to give it to him. I didn’t speak as Bono for Bono with an Irish accent.” Sfera says he’s a “fan of charitable causes” and admires Bono’s work to “assist in extreme situations for humanity.”

After looking at some of Mattera’s work, Sfera noted, “He’s like those guys that did that whole ACORN thing.”

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

36 Targetpractice  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:25:21pm

re: #27 Varek Raith

Here's a pic of me.

You honorless p'taqh!

/(geek moment)

37 Amory Blaine  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:28:20pm

re: #32 darthstar

Hey, look on the bright side...Breitbart.com will get more than 300 visits today because of this.

Can they handle the traffic ?

38 Kragar  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:31:06pm

As proof they are never wrong, allow me to link back to this old story of theirs which ...

Never mind.

39 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:35:59pm

re: #35 zora

After looking at some of Mattera’s work, Sfera noted, “He’s like those guys that did that whole ACORN thing.”

Sfera's clearly better at this vetting thing than Mattera is.

41 blueraven  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:41:51pm

They vetted Bono about as well as McCains staff vetted Palin.

42 Lidane  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:42:26pm
43 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:44:45pm

Geniuses at The Blaze:

‘White Fu**in’ Mother Fu**ers Would Die’: FL Student Flips Out in Class, Threatens to Kill Prof.

Obviously trying to push the race card here. Turns out this woman was having a mental breakdown of sorts and was taken to the hospital. A few of the commentators noticed this.

44 Targetpractice  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:47:04pm

re: #40 Kragar

'Severely Diminished Capacity': White House Ups Rhetoric Against GOP

Well, when your brilliant plan to box Obama in is to drag out last year's abomination, dust it off, and present it yet again, what other conclusion can be drawn?

45 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:47:37pm
46 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:55:39pm

Set phasers on stun.

47 freetoken  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:57:24pm

A sea of derpitude....

GOP Lawmaker Stokes ‘Birther’ Drama

Rep. Cliff Stearns, a senior Republican investigating the White House’s Solyndra energy loan guarantee, told reporters today that he is still, despite all evidence to the contrary, not convinced that President Barack Obama’s birth certificate is valid.

“I am, shall we say, looking at all the evidence,” Stearns, R-Fla., said at the Capitol today, just weeks after he waded back into the debate during a town hall meeting with constituents last month. [...]

48 darthstar  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 1:58:40pm

Here's a seat for the Breitbarts and Romneys of the world...

Sit-n-Spin

49 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:01:20pm

re: #43 Gus

Geniuses at The Blaze:

‘White Fu**in’ Mother Fu**ers Would Die’: FL Student Flips Out in Class, Threatens to Kill Prof.

Obviously trying to push the race card here. Turns out this woman was having a mental breakdown of sorts and was taken to the hospital. A few of the commentators noticed this.

That video is a week or two old. Maybe more. It seems they're reposting it with the implication it has something to do with the Zimmerman thing. I think it took place before the shooting.

50 BongCrodny  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:02:34pm

re: #8 Sionainn

Thanks for making me laugh. I needed it. That dude didn't even look remotely like Bono.

It was Fauxno!

51 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:02:57pm

The French prosecutors are saying that the shooting suspect is going to surrender after dark to be 'more discreet'.

How precious. Discreet. For fuck's sake.

52 freetoken  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:03:04pm

Speaking of which:

[...]

So what does this have to do with Missouri’s Senate Joint Resolution 47? The summary of the bill states: “This proposed constitutional amendment, if approved by voters, would modify Article IX, Section 8, commonly referred to as the "Blaine Amendment" by removing the prohibition on the distribution of public moneys to religious organizations. Instead, it provides that nothing will prohibit the enactment of legislation pertaining to any education program, funding, or other support to benefit children attending any Missouri public or nonpublic elementary or secondary school, so long as the legislation complies with the requirements of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.”

There are many problems with this action, even without the religious overtones. One of the most important is that private and parochial schools are exempt from the Missouri Assessment Program tests, so there is no legitimate method of measuring performance. If the state is licensing the programs to educate our children, why are these programs exempt from the one avenue to make sure our children are educated to the standards that publicly schooled children are held?

As important, there is the lack of any concern by our legislators that by allowing government fund to religious schools, the government of Missouri is messing with religion — something even constitutional purists can see if they would only open their eyes. If the tea party, libertarians and other conservative groups want to live the Constitution as originally written, SJR 47 is a clear violation of the First Amendment.

[..]

This isn't just about having, say, a church distribute emergency goods (paid by the state) or some other innocuous expenditure. Rather, it is an attempt to start fundamentally changing the way money is spent in MO, on education or anything else, but in the end especially on education.

53 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:04:10pm

This is what modern right wing investigative journalism is about: no standards, professional, journalistic or moral. One obtains an interview with a major figure like Bono through a press agent, one does not just come up to him.

And neither would a figure of his public stature give a casual interview to some goombah off the street, he would appear on a major network with a known interviewer. They were just too full of themselves and oblivious of the facts to even begin to think in these terms.

Ot to put in it Sergey's terms: In Soviet Union, Bono vets you!!!

54 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:05:29pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

That video is a week or two old. Maybe more. It seems they're reposting it with the implication it has something to do with the Zimmerman thing. I think it took place before the shooting.

That was my first thought too when I saw it. Like some kind of dumb response to allegations of racism WRT Zimmerman/Martin. "See THEY'RE racists!"

55 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:06:10pm

re: #51 Obdicut

The French prosecutors are saying that the shooting suspect is going to surrender after dark to be 'more discreet'.

How precious. Discreet. For fuck's sake.

What he may be doing in there worries me. That's enough time to make a suicide/murder bomb or booby trap the place. I hope he's just working up the nerve to walk out.

56 b_sharp  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:06:26pm

re: #54 Gus

That was my first thought too when I saw it. Like some kind of dumb response to allegations of racism WRT Zimmerman/Martin. "See THEY'RE racists!"

"I know you are, but what am I?"

57 BongCrodny  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:06:59pm

re: #53 Second Amendment Renegation

This is what modern right wing investigative journalism is about: no standards, professional, journalistic or moral. One obtains an interview with a major figure like Bono through a press agent, one does not just come up to him.

And neither would a figure of his public stature give a casual interview to some goombah off the street, he would appear on a major network with a known interviewer. They were just too full of themselves and oblivious of the facts to even begin to think in these terms.

Ot to put in it Sergey's terms: In Soviet Union, Bono vets you!!!

Given Bono's penchant for salty language, at the first "gotcha" question I'm sure he would have given Mattera a hearty "fuck off, pal."

58 Kragar  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:07:34pm

re: #51 Obdicut

The French prosecutors are saying that the shooting suspect is going to surrender after dark to be 'more discreet'.

How precious. Discreet. For fuck's sake.

Can we send them Zimmerman to help apprehend the guy?
/

62 freetoken  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:13:28pm

Should not try to get on "MasterChef":


No sweetness for meat-eaters

Many meat-eating animals have lost their ability to taste sugars, having lost a working copy of a gene that encodes a taste receptor for sugar.

Peihua Jiang and Gary Beauchamp at the Monell Chemical Senses Center in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and their co-workers sequenced DNA from 12 members of the order Carnivora, including spotted hyenas and several sea mammals. Seven of the species carried a malfunctioning copy of the Tas1r2 gene that encodes a sweet taste receptor. However, the exact mutations differed from one species to another, suggesting that carnivores have independently lost their ability to detect sugars during the course of evolution.

Furthermore, bottlenose dolphins (pictured) and sea lions lack working copies of the gene encoding receptors for tasting savoury flavours, or umami. Dolphins also seem to have lost a receptor that senses bitter compounds. The authors say taste may not affect what these creatures eat as sea lions and dolphins tend to swallow their food whole.

63 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:13:55pm
64 zora  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:14:24pm

re: #59 Kragar

Hagee: In End Times, ‘God Will Require a Life for Every Child Killed in Every Abortion Clinic in America’

enough with the rambo jesus shtick, already. haggee and his ilk always want to sic jesus on someone. i'm so tired of these "christians" using jesus / god as an excuse for their fuckery.

65 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:14:25pm

re: #59 Kragar

Hagee: In End Times, ‘God Will Require a Life for Every Child Killed in Every Abortion Clinic in America’

Let's see. So this God of his is going to avenge the abortions by taking people's lives that have probably nothing to do with abortion? Hypothetically speaking of course. And this God has decided "well I'll sit around and do nothing about abortions and when the time comes for me to destroy this Earth that I created then I'll get my revenge on some people for abortion." That's one lazy ass and creepy God he's constructed.

66 freetoken  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:15:15pm

re: #63 Second Amendment Renegation

You just don't understand. The US is God's chosen nation. Therefore our bombs are God's bombs, and God can kill whoever he wills.

67 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:16:05pm

re: #63 Second Amendment Renegation

How about every child killed by a US drone or cluster bomb?

You would think this God would prevent people from using or "needing" drones or cluster bombs. Nah. Too easy. He prefers the horror of playing with people's souls after death.

//

68 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:16:09pm

re: #64 zora

enough with the rambo jesus shtick, already. haggee and his ilk always want to sic jesus on someone. i'm so tired of these "christians" using jesus / god as an excuse for their fuckery.

I was gonna say, I don't recognize that concept of God at all. I know I'm a long-lapsed Catholic, but still...

69 Kragar  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:16:32pm

re: #65 Gus

Let's see. So this God of his is going to avenge the abortions by taking people's lives that have probably nothing to do with abortion? Hypothetically speaking of course. And this God has decided "well I'll sit around and do nothing about abortions and when the time comes for me to destroy this Earth that I created then I'll get my revenge on some people for abortion." That's one lazy ass and creepy God he's constructed.

I have a shrubbery God can use as an incendiary communication device anytime he wants.

70 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:17:35pm

re: #69 Kragar

I have a shrubbery God can use as an incendiary communication device anytime he wants.

Burning some shrubbery sounds pretty good right about now.

71 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:17:54pm

Hagee's God sounds more like the Devil.

72 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:18:15pm

re: #66 freetoken

You just don't understand. The US is God's chosen nation. Therefore our bombs are God's bombs, and God can kill whoever he wills.

You are getting to the core of his argument: in order to be worthy of the title of God's Chosen Nation, our nation's laws must reflect (their pinheaded interpretation of) God's Will on Earth.

If we allow abortion or gay marriage or gambling, prostitution, progressive taxation, etc.. we are violating (their cynical and bigoted view of) God's law and inviting him to visit His Divine Wrath upon us.

73 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:18:44pm

re: #71 Gus

Hagee's God sounds more like the Devil.

FTFY

74 JAFO  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:19:52pm

re: #62 freetoken

I've always wondered why dolphins didn't care for soy sauce on their fish.
//

75 zora  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:20:24pm

Newt and Santorum now have etch a sketches on the campaign trail. this should be fun.

from gingrich:

"Now given everybody's fears about Gov. Romney's flip-flops, to have his communications director say publicly to all of us, if we're dumb enough to nominate him we should expect by the acceptance speech he'll move back to the left, triggers everything we should worry about,"

...So here's Gov. Romney's staff, they don't even have the decency to wait until they get the nomination to explain to us how they'll sell us out, and I think having an Etch A Sketch as your campaign model, raises every doubt about where we're going."

from santorum:

Near the end of his speech, as he asked Louisiana voters for their support, Santorum put the election in binary terms, saying they should support a candidate who stands "firmly on the rocks of freedom, not on the sands of an Etch-A-Sketch toy."

[Link: www.politico.com...]

76 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:20:24pm

re: #74 Ghost of Tom Joad

I've always wondered why dolphins didn't care for soy sauce on their fish.
//

Yo! No soy marinero!

77 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:21:05pm

Back to the thoroughly annoying bike....

78 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:21:24pm

re: #75 zora

Freedom on the Rocks. Quite the image to describe America with Newt at the helm...

79 freetoken  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:23:29pm

Speaking of creationists, they don't seem to have any trouble with consuming 65 million year old oil:

Tawke oil well tops 25,000 b/d from Cretaceous

The Tawke-16 well in the Kurdistan region of Iraq flowed at a combined rate of more than 25,000 b/d of oil from multiple zones tested separately, likely making it the field’s test well so far, said DNO International ASA, Oslo.

Appraising the field’s undrilled northern flank, the well went to 2,369 m and cut more than 350 m of gross continuous oil column in the Cretaceous interval. It flowed 26-27° gravity oil and is expected to be connected to existing pipeline and processing facilities by mid-April.

The cost to drill, complete, and test the well was under $7 million.

DNO International is continuing to develop Tawke field with a goal of boosting production to 100,000 b/d by the end of 2012 (OGJ, Feb. 6, 2012, p. 48). Tawke-16 is the first of four wells targeting the Cretaceous that the company plans to drill in 2012. A fifth well, Tawke Deep, will also penetrate the deeper Jurassic and Triassic intervals in the field later in the year. [...]

BTW, one might argue this is why we went into Iraq - to return their oil production to above 3 million bpd. And, one can get a whole lot more oil per million dollars spent on a hole in Iraq than one can in, say, North Dakota or Alaska. Just don't tell Newt.

80 Kragar  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:23:39pm

re: #71 Gus

Hagee's God sounds more like the Devil.

What do Evangelicals and Metalheads have in common?

They both prefer the old Testament.

81 Targetpractice  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:24:19pm

re: #69 Kragar

I have a shrubbery God can use as an incendiary communication device anytime he wants.

"Shubbery God" sounds like a good name for a band.

/

82 jaunte  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:24:44pm

re: #54 Gus

That was my first thought too when I saw it. Like some kind of dumb response to allegations of racism WRT Zimmerman/Martin. "See THEY'RE racists!"

Fox News is doing this too, helpfully posting a video of a convenience store robber in central Florida beating a clerk.
[Link: foxnewsinsider.com...]

83 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:28:15pm

OT - For those of you who enjoy reading Sarah Posner over at Religion Dispatches, there's an interesting discussion between her and E.J. Graff (The American Prospect, Brandeis University) over at bloggingheads.tv:

On The Posner Show, Sarah and E.J. discuss whether more aggressive efforts to restrict access to abortion and contraception have sparked a resurgent women's movement. Can we thank Rick Santorum for this—for being honest about his views on contraception in a way that most conservatives are not? E.J. makes the argument that women's bodies are an economic issue, not a "culture war" issue. E.J. is optimistic about young women seeing this an freedom issue, and their activism through Slutwalks, social media, and more. Is the fight over contraception really just a rear-guard attempt to undo health care reform? Plus: Are liberals underestimating the political clout of religious conservatives?

85 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:31:55pm

re: #83 CuriousLurker

OT - For those of you who enjoy reading Sarah Posner over at Religion Dispatches, there's an interesting discussion between her and E.J. Graff (The American Prospect, Brandeis University) over at bloggingheads.tv:

...

Brandeis? That bastion of Communistic Judaica?

86 erik_t  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:32:27pm

re: #82 jaunte

Fox News is doing this too, helpfully posting a video of a convenience store robber in central Florida beating a clerk.
[Link: foxnewsinsider.com...]

Convenience stores are well known for carrying Skittles.

87 Lidane  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:32:35pm
88 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:32:43pm
89 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:33:05pm

Had an Apache crash there, if you noticed the site getting unresponsive.

Traffic's been pretty huge today.

90 erik_t  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:34:07pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

Had an Apache crash there, if you noticed the site getting unresponsive.

Traffic's been pretty huge today.

Got a 404 for a solid two or three minutes on my end.

I DEMAND MORE NINES

91 Targetpractice  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:34:08pm

re: #84 Kragar

Progressive Senators Introduce Bill That Would Force Regulator To Start Limiting Oil Speculation Within Two Weeks

And the GOP will swiftly kill it, as they simply must convince voters that drilling for more oil is the only way to bring down gas prices.

92 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:34:26pm

OT - For those of you who enjoy reading Sarah Posner at Religion Dispatches, there's an interesting discussion between her and E.J. Graff (The American Prospect, Brandeis University) over at bloggingheads.tv:

On The Posner Show, Sarah and E.J. discuss whether more aggressive efforts to restrict access to abortion and contraception have sparked a resurgent women's movement. Can we thank Rick Santorum for this—for being honest about his views on contraception in a way that most conservatives are not? E.J. makes the argument that women's bodies are an economic issue, not a "culture war" issue. E.J. is optimistic about young women seeing this an freedom issue, and their activism through Slutwalks, social media, and more. Is the fight over contraception really just a rear-guard attempt to undo health care reform? Plus: Are liberals underestimating the political clout of religious conservatives?

93 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:35:23pm

re: #90 erik_t

Got a 404 for a solid two or three minutes on my end.

I DEMAND MORE NINES

I was mildly inconvenienced for about thirty seconds. I'm suing.

94 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:35:35pm

re: #67 Gus

You would think this God would prevent people from using or "needing" drones or cluster bombs. Nah. Too easy. He prefers the horror of playing with people's souls after death.

//

Back to Tull.

"He who made kittens
put snakes in the grass"
- Bungle in the Jungle

95 Targetpractice  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:39:19pm
96 Lidane  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:39:56pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

Traffic's been pretty huge today.

So much for being irrelevant. Heh.

97 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:40:14pm

Ugh, sorry for the double post. I hit "submit" exactly when the server went down and didn't realize the first one had gone through.

98 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:43:27pm

This is funny.

99 b_sharp  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:43:34pm

re: #86 erik_t

Convenience stores are well known for carrying Skittles.

There should be a law ...

100 b_sharp  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:44:13pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

Had an Apache crash there, if you noticed the site getting unresponsive.

Traffic's been pretty huge today.

Have you tried nginx or Cherokee?

101 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:45:56pm

re: #90 erik_t

Got a 404 for a solid two or three minutes on my end.

I DEMAND MORE NINES

NEIN NEIN NEIN

102 darthstar  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:46:00pm

re: #99 etc/init.d/mailman start

okay...funny nickname change...well played.

103 b_sharp  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:46:50pm

Hello ello llo lo o

104 Jack Burton  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:48:04pm

re: #101 talon_262

NEIN NEIN NEIN

105 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:49:38pm

re: #103 etc/init.d/mailman start

Hello ello llo lo o

Is there anybody in there...

106 b_sharp  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:51:41pm

re: #105 Gus

Is there anybody in there...

Just Floyd, and some flying pigs.

107 b_sharp  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:52:16pm

re: #102 darthstar

okay...funny nickname change...well played.

What, me?

108 makeitstop  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:52:32pm

I remain amazed that this Breitbrat couldn't see that the guy he was talking to wasn't Bono.

Are conservatives really that culturally deprived? I saw the guy's silhouette in the video and could tell it was an impostor.

109 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:52:37pm

re: #106 etc/init.d/mailman start

Just Floyd, and some flying pigs.

Comfortably Numb

Hello? Hello? Hello?

Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone at home?
Come on now
I hear you're feeling down.
Well I can ease your pain
Get you on your feet again.
Relax.
I'll need some information first.
Just the basic facts.
Can you show me where it hurts?

There is no pain you are receding
A distant ship smoke on the horizon.
You are only coming through in waves.
Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying.
When I was a child I had a fever
My hands felt just like two balloons.
Now I've got that feeling once again
I can't explain you would not understand
This is not how I am.
I have become comfortably numb.

O.K.
Just a little pinprick.
There'll be no more, ah!
But you may feel a little sick.
Can you stand up?
I do believe it's working, good.
That'll keep you going through the show
Come on it's time to go.

There is no pain you are receding
A distant ship, smoke on the horizon.
You are only coming through in waves.
Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying.
When I was a child
I caught a fleeting glimpse
Out of the corner of my eye.
I turned to look but it was gone
I cannot put my finger on it now
The child is grown,
The dream is gone.
I have become comfortably numb.

110 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:53:21pm

re: #106 etc/init.d/mailman start

Just Floyd, and some flying pigs.

hey,,, just because I'm on an airplane right now there's no need to call me a name!!//

111 b_sharp  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:54:50pm

re: #110 sattv4u2

hey,,, just because I'm on an airplane right now there's no need to call me a name!!//

I wasn't sure if what I heard was from you flapping your wings, or your gums...

112 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:55:50pm

re: #108 makeitstop

I remain amazed that this Breitbrat couldn't see that the guy he was talking to wasn't Bono.

Are conservatives really that culturally deprived? I saw the guy's silhouette in the video and could tell it was an impostor.

As mentioned earlier: the notion that they could just walk up & get a casual interview from Bono for some unknown interviewer off the street. Totally oblivious to how journalism works but completely full of self-importance.

113 makeitstop  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:56:16pm

re: #111 etc/init.d/mailman start

I wasn't sure if what I heard was from you flapping your wings, or your gums...

Speaking of flapping one's wings, check this out...

114 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:56:29pm

re: #111 etc/init.d/mailman start

I wasn't sure if what I heard was from you flapping your wings, or your gums...

Gums,,, for the ear popping!!

In Business Class,, the people back >>there have to do the flappin

115 b_sharp  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 2:59:32pm

Well, gotta go, I can hear the wife's gums aflappin'.

116 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:00:11pm

re: #115 etc/init.d/mailman start

Well, gotta go, I can hear the wife's gums aflappin'.

She doesn't have teeth, huh?

117 Lidane  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:03:20pm

re: #112 Second Amendment Renegation

As mentioned earlier: the notion that they could just walk up & get a casual interview from Bono for some unknown interviewer off the street. Totally oblivious to how journalism works but completely full of self-importance.

Seriously. Even if Bono got stopped in the streets by a CNN camera crew there's no guarantee he'd stop to talk to them without first setting up an interview, especially on something like his business dealings and his taxes. WTF.

It's like stopping Bill Gates in the street with a camera and expecting him to answer your questions about Windows 8 or some shit. Not gonna happen.

118 Kragar  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:04:28pm
119 Lidane  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:07:19pm

re: #118 Kragar

Ron Paul: Secret Service is welfare

Because the POTUS is just some other random guy. No one could ever possibly think to target him or his family or anything. And it's not the government's best interest to protect the guy in charge.

Crazy Uncle Ron is crazy.

120 Kronocide  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:08:26pm

Oh my, this is a Costco pallet of supersized fail.

121 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:08:49pm

re: #118 Kragar

Ron Paul: Secret Service is welfare

And the White House is government housing. To which Dr. Paul aspires.

122 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:09:30pm

re: #118 Kragar

Ron Paul: Secret Service is welfare

Secret Service is the one thing that all same human beings can agree that we owe our president.

123 Targetpractice  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:10:08pm

re: #118 Kragar

Ron Paul: Secret Service is welfare

I hate to have to defend Crazy Uncle Ron, but he was speaking in terms of his fellow candidates, who have accepted Secret Service protection. Still, if you read between the lines, it comes as yet another sign of how much of a "rich men only" club major party candidates have become. $50,000/day for private security protection is not something that Average Joe Sixpack could pay out of pocket, yet Ron thinks that accepting SS protection means you're accepting "welfare."

124 zora  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:10:11pm

re: #119 Lidane

Because the POTUS is just some other random guy. No one could ever possibly think to target him or his family or anything. And it's not the government's best interest to protect the guy in charge.

Crazy Uncle Ron is crazy.

he is crazy but he was referring to protection for candidates, i believe. not the pres.

125 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:10:19pm

re: #118 Kragar

Ron Paul: Secret Service is welfare

Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum have chosen the code names “Javelin” and “Petrus” for themselves, respectively, according to a report this week.

Oh, Rick. For real?

126 Kronocide  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:10:47pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

Had an Apache crash there, if you noticed the site getting unresponsive.

Traffic's been pretty huge today.

Most excellent. Your hammering of Pollack is epic. Keep it up.

None of them can be called journalists, they're all propagandists.

127 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:11:15pm

re: #124 zora

he is crazy but he was referring to protection for candidates, i believe. not the pres.

I'm willing to spend the money.

Even to protect Ron Paul.

128 makeitstop  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:11:58pm

re: #118 Kragar

Ron Paul: Secret Service is welfare

I'm guessing he'd rather hire a private goon squad who would answer to no one but his crazy old self.

129 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:13:28pm

re: #127 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm willing to spend the money.

Even to protect Ron Paul.

Thank you again for introducing this site to me.

130 Lidane  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:14:34pm

re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist

Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum have chosen the code names “Javelin” and “Petrus” for themselves, respectively, according to a report this week.

Oh, Rick. For real?

Petrus as in St. Peter? Really? WTF.

131 Targetpractice  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:15:19pm

re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist

Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum have chosen the code names “Javelin” and “Petrus” for themselves, respectively, according to a report this week.

Oh, Rick. For real?

Just a little full of himself, huh?

132 darthstar  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:15:41pm

re: #130 Lidane

Petrus as in St. Peter? Really? WTF.

He started the Catholic church...or so the story goes.

133 zora  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:17:59pm

re: #130 Lidane

Petrus as in St. Peter? Really? WTF.

kathleen parker's take:

A Javelin or a Petrus in the White House?

To those who know him, his selection of Petrus is perfect, again tinged with irony. In Latin, petrus means rock and also is associated with Saint Peter, the first pope of the Catholic Church. Jesus said to Peter, “Upon this rock I will build my church,” and so Peter did. St. Peter’s Basilica, the centerpiece of the Vatican, is built upon Peter’s bones.

...All of this and more are contained in the name Petrus — and in the self-image of one Rick Santorum. Grandiose? Or self-sacrificing, humble and willing to submit to public humiliation and agony?

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

134 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:19:19pm

re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist

Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum have chosen the code names “Javelin” and “Petrus” for themselves, respectively, according to a report this week.

Oh, Rick. For real?

I'm guessing these are the origins of Mitt and Rick's Secret Service codenames:

Mitt: "Javelin", as in the AMC Javelin (seeing as AMC is the company his dad ran for many years).
Rick: "Petrus", as in Saint Peter, the first pope

135 Lidane  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:22:52pm

re: #132 darthstar

He started the Catholic church...or so the story goes.

Yeah, I know. Born and raised Catholic and made it to Confirmation. Quit right after high school and haven't bothered with church since.

I think it's incredibly egoistical of Torquemada Jr. to name himself after St. Peter. WTF.

136 Bubblehead II  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:23:02pm

bbiaw. Since the weather is nice, going for a scooter ride.

137 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:27:47pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

If you're still here, you might want to read the following as it references (among many other things) Anonymous, which you brought up downstairs in your comment #279:

Digital Posse Comitatus: Generals Obfuscate and Inveigle Congress

138 Lidane  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:30:52pm

George Zimmerman not a member of recognized neighborhood watch organization

When 28-year-old George Zimmerman was discovered by Sanford, Florida police standing over the body of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, they accepted Zimmerman's claim that he killed in self-defense as a neighborhood watch captain. Now, through a statement released by the National Sheriffs' Association (NSA) -- the parent organization of USAonWatch-Neighborhood Watch -- it has been revealed that Zimmerman was not a member of any group recognized by the organization. Zimmerman violated the central tenets of Neighborhood Watch by following Martin, confronting him and carrying a concealed weapon.

"In no program that I have ever heard of does someone patrol with a gun in their pocket," Carmen Caldwell, the Executive Director of Citizens' Crime Watch of Miami-Dade, told theGrio. "Every city and municipality has their own policies. Here in Miami-Dade we train people only to be the eyes and ears of their communities. Not to follow and most definitely not to carry a weapon."

Despite this, Zimmerman admitted that he had fired a weapon on the night of the incident. In addition, the non-emergency call Zimmerman placed on February 26 before the shooting revealed he had been pursuing Martin by car before accosting the youth on foot -- all direct violations of Neighborhood Watch policies.

139 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:31:10pm

Amazing. These wingnut assholes are stuck at an emotional age of about 5 years old.

140 Kronocide  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:32:57pm

I think that was a homosexual reference. Unbelievable.

141 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:37:12pm

re: #137 CuriousLurker

Learned a new word from that article by the way, heh:

jihobbyists - unhinged lone wolf wannabees

142 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:37:55pm

re: #117 Lidane

Seriously. Even if Bono got stopped in the streets by a CNN camera crew there's no guarantee he'd stop to talk to them without first setting up an interview, especially on something like his business dealings and his taxes. WTF.

It's like stopping Bill Gates in the street with a camera and expecting him to answer your questions about Windows 8 or some shit. Not gonna happen.

For chrissakes, peole like that work through their press agents and schedule interviews with major networks and heavy hitter interviewers. Anybody with any idea of journalism is aware of that.

But these people are just so self-inflated that they are ready to believe someone who is not even undertaking any sort of elaborate ruse to deceive them, this guy was just playing along with their vanity and idiocy.

143 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:38:56pm

re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist

Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum have chosen the code names “Javelin” and “Petrus” for themselves, respectively, according to a report this week.

Oh, Rick. For real?

Considering that Jesus probably used the name "Rock" as in "Dumb as a box of rocks", I'd say it's rather appropriate.

144 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:39:55pm

re: #143 William Barnett-Lewis

Considering that Jesus probably used the name "Rock" as in "Dumb as a box of rocks", I'd say it's rather appropriate.

No, actually, he used Petros to refer to Simon Peter.

It's an actual biblical reference, it's just a little...um...to use it to refer to yourself.

145 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:41:08pm

re: #137 CuriousLurker

If you're still here, you might want to read the following as it references (among many other things) Anonymous, which you brought up downstairs in your comment #279:

Digital Posse Comitatus: Generals Obfuscate and Inveigle Congress

Thanks, I gave it a skim but the guy seems to be a bit of a nutter. I'm not sure he's very credible.
Internal Documents Show the Department of Homeland Security Tried Pretty Hard Not to Monitor Occupy Wall Street (PDF's at the link)
For now it seems they were very careful about the constitutional limits and were mostly interested in tracking what Anon was up to. Most of that was from publicly available MSM articles. Mos of the other stuff about OWS was discussing how to answer press questions about security at federal buildings and the conspiracy theory that DHS orchestrated the nationwide crackdown on OWS camps (which they didn't). I did find it interesting that much of the discussion was about protecting protesters rights. It seems they were very careful.

146 Kronocide  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:43:46pm
147 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:45:33pm

re: #117 Lidane

Seriously. Even if Bono got stopped in the streets by a CNN camera crew there's no guarantee he'd stop to talk to them without first setting up an interview, especially on something like his business dealings and his taxes. WTF.

It's like stopping Bill Gates in the street with a camera and expecting him to answer your questions about Windows 8 or some shit. Not gonna happen.

I just love how the fake Bono keeps saying, "It's not my company... I don't control that ... No."

He meant it LITERALLY, but Mattera was too freaking stupid to get it. And if you watch the video, he doesn't even try to fake an Irish accent!

The fail in this one is monumental.

148 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:46:48pm
FRANCE: 3 blasts heard in Toulouse at site where suspected killer his holed up
149 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:48:51pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

Fuck all the Salafists.

I'm going to say that there is a 50-50 shot that at the next MSA meeting, I'm going to confront the Salafi fucker in order to vent my rage. These assholes are making it hard for us moderates to live our lives.

Bunch of cowardly inhuman pond scum.

150 engineer cat  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:49:45pm

on this Rick i will build my church?

151 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:49:57pm

re: #149 ProGunLiberal

Fuck all the Salafists.

I'm going to say that there is a 50-50 shot that at the next MSA meeting, I'm going to confront the Salafi fucker in order to vent my rage. These assholes are making it hard for us moderates to live our lives.

Bunch of cowardly inhuman pond scum.

Bad idea, dude. Maybe talk privately with you imam or your doctor. Keep cool.

152 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:51:00pm

re: #149 ProGunLiberal

It doesn't help that the Salafist in question I know has an interesting family history.

His family originally comes from the Hadramaut region of Yemen, and moved north into Saudi Arabia, and heavily supports the Saudi Government.

153 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:51:08pm

re: #149 ProGunLiberal

He'd probably love that.

154 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:51:47pm

re: #150 engineer cat

Change this first letter, and it will be better.

155 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:52:26pm

re: #152 ProGunLiberal

This should sound really familiar.

156 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:52:34pm

Does anyone see anything else weird about this article?

Since when is trail mix an unhealthy snack? Twinkies are unhealthy. Popsicles are unhealthy. Pork rinds are unhealthy.

If granola bars are unhealthy, then sorry, count me out.

[Link: www.ksl.com...]

157 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:54:39pm

re: #156 To hold my temper, most of the time.

Does anyone see anything else weird about this article?

Since when is trail mix an unhealthy snack? Twinkies are unhealthy. Popsicles are unhealthy. Pork rinds are unhealthy.

If granola bars are unhealthy, then sorry, count me out.

[Link: www.ksl.com...]

No, they called it "healthy junk food". I assume "junk food" in the sense of "something you eat to stuff your face, not because you need the nutrition".

158 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:55:20pm

re: #150 engineer cat

on this Rick i will build my church?

Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson is probably an more architecturally and mentally sound choice.

159 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:55:45pm

re: #156 To hold my temper, most of the time.

Granola bars are high calorie, and have lots of sugar and fat.

Whether that's unhealthy or not depends on your rate of consumption.

160 Lidane  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:55:50pm

re: #156 To hold my temper, most of the time.

Does anyone see anything else weird about this article?

Since when is trail mix an unhealthy snack? Twinkies are unhealthy. Popsicles are unhealthy. Pork rinds are unhealthy.

If granola bars are unhealthy, then sorry, count me out.

[Link: www.ksl.com...]

Granola bars themselves aren't bad. It's when they're made with too many artificial sweeteners and sugars that they're a problem, since some of them will have as many fat grams and calories as a candy bar:

[Link: www.beinghealthy.tv...]

Just read the labels and use portion control and you can enjoy all the trail mix and granola you want.

161 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:56:55pm

re: #144 To hold my temper, most of the time.

No, actually, he used Petros to refer to Simon Peter.

It's an actual biblical reference, it's just a little...um...to use it to refer to yourself.

There are some commenters who believe that Jesus called Simon "Petros" because he wasn't very bright. Plenty of faith which was more important, but dumb as a box of rocks in most respects. I was commenting that I thought, considering that commentary, "rock" was a good description for Torquemada Jr. to pick for himself.

And even from the perspective of just naming oneself after St. Peter, well, that's him in a nutshell too.

162 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:59:10pm

re: #153 Obdicut

It doesn't help that my patience for radically conservative religion ran out many years ago, so when something like this happens I go red very quickly.

163 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:59:18pm

Well, at least Mitt went for "Javelin" and not "Spearchucker"...

164 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:00:56pm

re: #145 Killgore Trout

Thanks, I gave it a skim but the guy seems to be a bit of a nutter. I'm not sure he's very credible.

You may be right, however Infosec Island is a respected resource among security specialists, so I'd be really surprised to find out that he's a flake. That's not to say he might not come off a bit odd, something not uncommon in a super-geeky industry that deals 24/7 with hacking, cryptography, chasing bad guys into the dark recesses of the internet, understanding impossibly complex networks & protocols, etc.

Internal Documents Show the Department of Homeland Security Tried Pretty Hard Not to Monitor Occupy Wall Street (PDF's at the link)
For now it seems they were very careful about the constitutional limits and were mostly interested in tracking what Anon was up to. Most of that was from publicly available MSM articles. Mos of the other stuff about OWS was discussing how to answer press questions about security at federal buildings and the conspiracy theory that DHS orchestrated the nationwide crackdown on OWS camps (which they didn't). I did find it interesting that much of the discussion was about protecting protesters rights. It seems they were very careful.

Yes, for now. That's precisely the part that bothers me. There's no more firewall, so to speak. As for the rest, I've never been an activist/protester sort of gal, so I really didn't have a lot of interest in OWS to begin with, and haven't kept up with it.

165 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:03:14pm

re: #164 CuriousLurker

To get me to actually protest takes alot, and also requires the protest not interfere with classes, or a chance to be with friends. My interest in politics is not paramount. There are quite a few things that come first.

166 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:03:32pm

re: #159 Obdicut

re: #160 Lidane

I just got back from the grocery store.

I admit that some granola bars are better than others, but as snacks go, they're worlds above most of what's out there.

Exhibit 1: The cookie aisle

Exhibit 2: Pre-made cookie dough aisle; ready-to-cook rolls right next to them

Exhibit 3: The bakery department

Exhibit 5: The deli department (Hey kids, let's get some jo jo's!)

Exhibit 6: 80% of the frozen food aisle

I find it ironic that they're calling trail mix unhealthy when as many American kids eat fast food as often as they do. It's like arguing about whether kids should exercise nine hours a week or nine and a half hours a week when most kids exercise one.

167 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:05:55pm

re: #163 Second Amendment Renegation

Well, at least Mitt went for "Javelin" and not "Spearchucker"...

No, that would be Oliver Harmon Jones.

/suicide is painless, it brings on many changes...

168 freetoken  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:06:08pm

re: #160 Lidane

It's because "granola" has just become a magic word for marketing whatever crunchy food someone wants to sell. Originally the word was to signify roasted grains used for human consumption, but given the human propensity to believe in magic the word has subsequently been used to market just about anything.

169 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:07:06pm

re: #168 freetoken

It's because "granola" has just become a magic word for marketing whatever crunchy food someone wants to sell. Originally the word was to signify roasted grains used for human consumption, but given the human propensity to believe in magic the word has subsequently been used to market just about anything.

Yeah, actually, the chocolate dipped granola bars make me wince.

170 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:09:07pm

re: #166 To hold my temper, most of the time.

re: #160 Lidane

I just got back from the grocery store.

I admit that some granola bars are better than others, but as snacks go, they're worlds above most of what's out there.

Exhibit 1: The cookie aisle

Exhibit 2: Pre-made cookie dough aisle; ready-to-cook rolls right next to them

Exhibit 3: The bakery department

Exhibit 5: The deli department (Hey kids, let's get some jo jo's!)

Exhibit 6: 80% of the frozen food aisle

I find it ironic that they're calling trail mix unhealthy when as many American kids eat fast food as often as they do. It's like arguing about whether kids should exercise nine hours a week or nine and a half hours a week when most kids exercise one.

Well...the problem is that most trail mix shouldn't be all-the-time snack food. It's food built for exertion, with a big dollop of fat and sugar in a small package.

Sitting around eating trail mix isn't a lot different than eating candy bars. And for most food-secure people the minerals and (maybe) vitamins are actually superfluous rather than necessary.

Granola--originally dried or grain--on the other hand, has had lots of extra stuff added that makes it more calorie-intensive. Dried fruit, for example, is deceptively unhealthy from a caloric standpoint.

171 Kronocide  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:09:24pm

re: #168 freetoken

Titanium Granola Hydrotherapyserum.

172 freetoken  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:09:37pm

re: #169 To hold my temper, most of the time.

Yeah, actually, the chocolate dipped granola bars make me wince.

Ironically, cacao beans are seeds and are not bad for you (he wrote, about to run out and buy some chocolate.) So if someone just wanted to break up and roll out some cacao beans and put them in a "granola" mix it would be fitting, but very bitter tasting.

The "chocolate" used in most confections has very little real chocolate in it, and is usually just sugar and vegetable oils.

173 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:09:45pm

re: #162 ProGunLiberal

It doesn't help that my patience for radically conservative religion ran out many years ago, so when something like this happens I go red very quickly.

You keep saying that and you keep broad brushing people and saying violent things. Cut the crap—when you identify yourself as a Muslim and then behave like that you make all of us look bad. You're really starting to piss me off. We get enough bad fucking press, we don't need you adding to it. Now step the fuck off. Got it?

If there's any part of the above you don't understand, let me know.

I don't like Salafis any more than you do, but they're not all bloodthirsty jihadis, and the guy you dislike wasn't responsible for what happened in France.

174 teresa  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:13:15pm

-------->insert hysterical laughter here

175 freetoken  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:14:04pm

It is spring.

The Equinox (well, I guess it happened yesterday - darned leap year.)

The birds are singing, the loquats are ripening, the Pittosporum are blooming - sounds like a good afternoon for a walk.

176 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:15:59pm
177 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:17:37pm

re: #169 To hold my temper, most of the time.

Yeah, actually, the chocolate dipped granola bars make me wince drool.

FTFMe. The key is to avoid the combination of yummy + sedentary. You gotta earn that stuff.

There's not much difference between a Snickers bar and a Power Bar, if you just look at the fat/carb/protein content. If you look at the price, the Snickers is a better deal.

178 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:18:51pm

re: #177 wrenchwench

FTFMe. The key is to avoid the combination of yummy + sedentary. You gotta earn that stuff.

There's not much difference between a Snickers bar and a Power Bar, if you just look at the fat/carb/protein content. If you look at the price, the Snickers is a better deal.

And the Snickers doesn't taste like cardboard...

179 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:21:12pm

re: #173 CuriousLurker

You keep saying that and you keep broad brushing people and saying violent things. Cut the crap—when you identify yourself as a Muslim and then behave like that you make all of us look bad. You're really starting to piss me off. We get enough bad fucking press, we don't need you adding to it. Now step the fuck off. Got it?

If there's any part of the above you don't understand, let me know.

I don't like Salafis any more than you do, but they're not all bloodthirsty jihadis, and the guy you dislike wasn't responsible for what happened in France.

PLL/PGL, this is some industrial-grade learning C_L's giving you here; I'd suggest you take heed of it.

180 freetoken  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:21:40pm

re: #177 wrenchwench

I don't recommend the most common branded "Power Bar", unless one wants to spend a whole lot more for their high protein version. You can get a better deal through Amazon for a moderate sugar, protein bar like this.

181 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:22:02pm

re: #178 talon_262

And the Snickers doesn't taste like cardboard...

And you can eat 'em when they're cold. Power Bars need to be almost body temp. to be chewable.

182 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:22:35pm

One-third of America's kids eat fast food every day. (I believe this means that on any given day, 1/3 of kids eat fast food, not that 1/3 of kids are eating it every single day.)

A sandwich and a granola bar would be a big step up. At the very least, nothing would have been put into a deep-fat fryer.

183 compound_Idaho  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:22:48pm

re: #178 talon_262

And the Snickers doesn't taste like cardboard...

[Link: www.snickersmarathon.com...]

Snickers bar in a different package?

184 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:24:15pm

I'm gonna get outta here before I blow another gasket. O_o

185 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:24:22pm

re: #180 freetoken

I don't recommend the most common branded "Power Bar", unless one wants to spend a whole lot more for their high protein version. You can get a better deal through Amazon for a moderate sugar, protein bar like this.

Well, I get 'em wholesale, which is still almost too much for these, but boy are they good.

186 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:26:07pm

re: #183 compound_Idaho

[Link: www.snickersmarathon.com...]

Snickers bar in a different package?

Less sugar and more protein than a regular Snickers. I think. And more money for a smaller size.

187 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:29:20pm

re: #173 CuriousLurker

It's not so much not understanding as that history is part of what brought me to Islam. I've read about the Salafis have done in history (The Sack of Karbala being the most infamous example).

These historical events make them look barbaric. So I take the view that, since history shows they can't be dealt with rationally, one must be aggressive against them, since they understand little else. This view hasn't been helped by my dealing with this year's MSA president.

I just think trying to deal with them rationally is like trying to negotiate with a brick wall.

188 compound_Idaho  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:32:02pm

Supreme Court allows couple to challenge EPA on wetlands ruling.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

At least the land owner will have some recourse. I’m thinking they will probably prevail.

189 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:33:01pm
FRANCE –TOULOUSE: Assault on school shooting suspect's apartment has begun
190 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:33:32pm

re: #187 ProGunLiberal

It's not so much not understanding as that history is part of what brought me to Islam. I've read about the Salafis have done in history (The Sack of Karbala being the most infamous example).

These historical events make them look barbaric. So I take the view that, since history shows they can't be dealt with rationally, one must be aggressive against them, since they understand little else. This view hasn't been helped by my dealing with this year's MSA president.

I just think trying to deal with them rationally is like trying to negotiate with a brick wall.

I think your understanding of history and what it means for future action is not very deep.

191 b_sharp  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:34:49pm

re: #177 wrenchwench

FTFMe. The key is to avoid the combination of yummy + sedentary. You gotta earn that stuff.

There's not much difference between a Snickers bar and a Power Bar, if you just look at the fat/carb/protein content. If you look at the price, the Snickers is a better deal.

I'll have you know that my shape is significantly more geometric since I've combined yummy&sedentary.

192 freetoken  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:36:29pm

re: #185 wrenchwench

Well, I get 'em wholesale, which is still almost too much for these, but boy are they good.

They look tasty, but my diet is aimed at consuming as much protein as sugar, for my first meal of the day anyway, and most "granola" type bars fail on that.

193 William of Orange  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:37:12pm

Clearly this wasn't Bono Vox but Bono "Hussein" Fox. :-)

194 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:37:31pm

re: #190 wrenchwench

I probably need a little bit to cool down.

Still, history paints a poor picture of the Salafists.

195 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:39:11pm

re: #194 ProGunLiberal

I probably need a little bit to cool down.

Still, history paints a poor picture of the Salafists.

History can be deceiving.

I'm not particularly concerned about an attack by the Swedes.

My English ancestors, over a thousand years ago, were justifiably afraid.

(Really, though, they should have been afraid of the Viking kittehs.)

196 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:39:38pm

re: #187 ProGunLiberal

These historical events make them look barbaric.

Some of the stuff you spew makes all Muslims look barbaric. You wanna do something useful? BE A GOOD EXAMPLE. Stop wasting your time looking for faults in others and spend more time recognizing & fixing your own.

As for the rest, if you spent half as much time learning your deen as you spend here, and on TV Tropes, and playing video games or whatever, you'd be a lot better off.

FYI, I have blocked you on Twitter until you grow up. I'll leave you with an old Sufi saying—take it or leave it:

Self-justification is worse than the original offense.

Later, lizards.

197 freetoken  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:39:58pm

re: #189 Killgore Trout

Reportedly the doors have been blown off.

198 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:41:23pm

re: #197 freetoken

Reportedly the doors have been blown off.

Any live tv coverage available?

199 b_sharp  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:42:24pm

re: #195 To hold my temper, most of the time.

History can be deceiving.

I'm not particularly concerned about an attack by the Swedes.

My English ancestors, over a thousand years ago, were justifiably afraid.

(Really, though, they should have been afraid of the Viking kittehs.)

My Scottish ancestors had sex with them, my English ancestors ran from them.

200 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:42:31pm

Duh, I had it open already
[Link: www.france24.com...]

201 erik_t  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:42:40pm

Tying yourself to Bush-economics and TARP -- perhaps not so brilliant.

"I keep hearing the president say he's responsible for keeping the country out of a Great Depression," Romney said at a town hall in Arbutus, Maryland. "No, no, no, that was President George W. Bush and [then-Treasury Secretary] Hank Paulson."

More than anything else, Romney's candidacy has confirmed for me the degree to which money trumps all in politics. The man shows time and time and time and time and time and time again that he is just a terrible, terrible politician. He has no real clue how to connect or identify with people, how to handle tricky PR issues without several insulating layers of middle management, or when to shut up. This is city-council-level stuff, for crying out loud.

202 freetoken  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:47:46pm

re: #201 erik_t

Mitt Romney would have done well in a monarchy. By now he would have been a duke - Duke Willard of La Jolla, had his lands, gone hunting with his dogs, funded a few artists here and there and maybe opened an orphanage in his own name.

203 darthstar  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:48:31pm
204 freetoken  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:50:17pm

On another topic, Bart Ehrman really brought out various extremists with his latest entry at HuffPo:

Did Jesus Exist?

Seems to have touch some raw nerves.

205 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 4:52:24pm

Hoodies UP

206 Hawaii69  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:03:12pm

I have to wonder what Bonos charities, and taxes, have to do with "Big Hollywood", considering he is an Irish citizen, sheltering his income
from the IRISH government.

Even if he's been talking to the real Bono, the premise would have
been ridiculous

207 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:03:21pm
PHOENIX -- Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has sent a letter to the Director of the U.S. Selective Service System headquarters in Arlington, Virginia requesting the agency to conduct an investigation into Barack Obama's Selective Service registration form from 1980.

This comes after the preliminary findings of Arpaio's six- month investigation that determined it may a forgery.

The letter also asks for an original form so forensic document examiners can analyze the document for authenticity.

Apraio claims he is just doing his job, and isn't targeting the president.

"I'm not accusing anyone right now of any violation of law," Arpaio said. "However when you look at the birth certificate and the selective service form I think there's pretty good evidence that there's a possible forgery."

[Link: ktar.com...]

Your tax dollars at work AZ. Better spent looking for the Zetas, or landmines, or the beheadings.

whattajoke

208 carlaschluge  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:05:11pm

re: #207 Oh geeze.

He used no tax dollars.

209 Lidane  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:05:43pm

re: #207 Oh geeze.

Your tax dollars at work AZ.

I can't wait to see what that lunatic does if Barack Obama wins a second term.

210 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:06:02pm

re: #208 carlaschluge

What pays his salary?

211 Lidane  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:06:18pm

re: #208 carlaschluge

And yet he's still wasting tax dollars by bothering the federal government with his conspiracy bullshit.

212 erik_t  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:07:33pm

re: #207 Oh geeze.

Apraio claims he is just doing his job, and isn't targeting the president.

What say you, Maricopa County Sheriff's Department?

The Civil Division of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office is responsible as mandated by the Arizona Constitution, State Statutes and Court Decree in the service, processing, and execution of all Criminal/Civil Process of the Maricopa County Superior Court. Additionally, the Division is responsible for the collection of delinquent Tax Bills forwarded from the County Assessor's Office, the licensing of all Pawnshops within Maricopa County, the approval/disapproval of ATF applications for a weapons III firearm acquisition and the service of warrants generated by Sheriff's Office actions, including child custody and child support warrants.

Derp.

213 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:10:16pm

re: #208 carlaschluge

He used no tax dollars.

Well his time spent is tax dollars. Oh yeah, he works on this at night I'm sure.

214 erik_t  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:11:55pm

re: #208 carlaschluge

He used no tax dollars.

The press conference was at 1pm local time on a Thursday. I'm sure he took the day off.

Derp.

215 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:12:09pm

re: #208 carlaschluge

He used no tax dollars.

I find it very hard to believe that absolutely NO Phoenix/Maricopa County taxpayers' money has gone towards Sheriff Ahab's hunt for his white whale, no matter how much it was stressed that "private donations" were paying for his "Cold Case Posse".

216 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:12:42pm

♥ Mrs. Ortiz ‏ @xLovePatricia Close

I told myself I wouldn't cry... and then I turn around and see this. #JusticeForTrayvon #MillionHoodieMarch

[Link: lockerz.com...]

217 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:12:51pm

re: #194 ProGunLiberal

I probably need a little bit to cool down.

Still, history paints a poor picture of the Salafists.

You need to cool down a lot. And not just in the short term.

History paints, often justifiably, a poor picture of a lot of people. It's not a good standard on which to judge the living. The past is a damn charnel house.

And talking about purges and punitive action is just childish. Death shouldn't be trivialized, and warfare does not have video game, clear-cut victory terms. Silencing opponents by making them corpses isn't a "win"--it's a deferment at best.

And it's also not good to walk around angry about things you have no control over. From the way you talk about your family life here, it's sounds like you need to make terms with your own experiences, learns something from them, and not let your emotional life be defined by frustration, indignation and outrage. It doesn't help you, it doesn't help the things you care about.

The win in this situation is to not let the things/people that anger you control your life or what's going on in your head. Going off on Salafism and/or assholes in the MSA every day doesn't show that you care, it shows that these events dominate your thought process.

218 Achilles Tang  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:15:27pm

re: #208 carlaschluge

He used no tax dollars.

Does his job description say "do whatever the hell you want", or does it say something else?

I'm pretty sure he hasn't been wasting everyone's time on this crap on weekends or after hours.

219 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:15:32pm
220 carlaschluge  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:16:56pm

re: #218 Blue Spot Vlamingii Tang

He gets re-elected. As long as his constituents are happy enough to keep electing him, he can do whatever the hell he wants.

221 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:17:00pm

re: #216 Oh geeze.

♥ Mrs. Ortiz ‏ @xLovePatricia Close

I told myself I wouldn't cry... and then I turn around and see this. #JusticeForTrayvon #MillionHoodieMarch

[Link: lockerz.com...]

I am very discouraged. Hate this shit.

222 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:17:59pm

re: #204 freetoken

On another topic, Bart Ehrman really brought out various extremists with his latest entry at HuffPo:

Did Jesus Exist?

Seems to have touch some raw nerves.

Excellent.

223 erik_t  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:18:05pm

re: #220 carlaschluge

He gets re-elected. As long as his constituents are happy enough to keep electing him, he can do whatever the hell he wants.

I'm sure you were 100% against Bill Clinton's impeachment, then.

224 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:19:14pm

re: #223 erik_t

I'm sure you were 100% against Bill Clinton's impeachment, then.

whoop!

225 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:20:43pm

re: #220 carlaschluge

He gets re-elected. As long as his constituents are happy enough to keep electing him, he can do whatever the hell he wants.

Even if he's breaking laws?

226 carlaschluge  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:20:45pm

re: #223 erik_t

I was 100% in favor of the impeachment. He lied while under oath. He was disbarred because of that. He deserved to be impeached.

227 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:21:02pm

re: #220 carlaschluge

He gets re-elected. As long as his constituents are happy enough to keep electing him, he can do whatever the hell he wants.

Or get recalled by his other constituents.

And no, he can't do whatever he wants. He and his department are the subjects of federal investigations.

228 carlaschluge  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:21:06pm

re: #225 Obdicut

What law is he breaking exactly?

229 erik_t  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:21:32pm

re: #226 carlaschluge

I was 100% in favor of the impeachment. He lied while under oath. He was disbarred because of that. He deserved to be impeached.

Misappropriation of public funds is a crime, carl(a).

230 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:22:16pm

re: #220 carlaschluge

He gets re-elected. As long as his constituents are happy enough to keep electing him, he can do whatever the hell he wants.

He's law enforcement, not a feudal fucking baron. The standard of his job performance is not a popularity contest: it's how well he does protecting his constituents...which according to crime stats for Maricopa, isn't very well.

231 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:22:20pm

re: #228 carlaschluge

What law is he breaking exactly?

I'm referring to your "As long as he gets re-elected, he can do whatever he wants" comment.

He is under investigation, you know, right?

232 carlaschluge  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:22:24pm

re: #229 erik_t

Newsflash . . . he hasn't been convicted of anything, let alone misappropriation of funds.

233 carlaschluge  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:22:59pm

re: #231 Obdicut

Investigation does not equal a crime. Criminal law 101.

234 erik_t  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:23:31pm

re: #232 carlaschluge

Newsflash . . . he hasn't been convicted of anything, let alone misappropriation of funds.

With reading comprehension like that, no wonder you think such ass-backwards things.

235 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:23:58pm

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown Carlaschluge.

236 Gus  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:24:22pm

re: #233 carlaschluge

Investigation does not equal a crime. Criminal law 101.

So I imagine you also think calling CAIR an "unindicted co-conspirator" is wrong too?

237 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:26:57pm

re: #236 Gus

So I imagine you also think calling CAIR an "unindicted co-conspirator" is wrong too?

LOL

238 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:27:16pm

re: #233 carlaschluge

Investigation does not equal a crime. Criminal law 101.

And some people don't consider oral to be "sex," so Clinton wasn't really lying.

Semiotics 101.

239 carlaschluge  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:31:56pm

re: #238 The Ghost of a Flea

Hurry! Tell the Arkansas Bar Association that He should not have been disbarred!

240 Lidane  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:35:30pm

Clinton hasn't been POTUS for over a decade.

Can we focus on the people who ARE in elected office right now, like that lunatic Arpaio?

241 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:39:07pm

re: #233 carlaschluge

Investigation does not equal a crime. Criminal law 101.

I know. But your comment said that as long as people keep electing him, he can do what he wants. That's wrong. He can't do what he wants. He has to obey the law.

Yes?

242 Achilles Tang  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 5:42:28pm

re: #220 carlaschluge

He gets re-elected. As long as his constituents are happy enough to keep electing him, he can do whatever the hell he wants.

That is unfortunately true, ignoring the simple fact that in our system elected officials are supposed to serve even those who didn't vote for them, which is why most "jobs" as opposed to lawmakers are supposed to have specific responsibilities.

I suspect you are one of those who think government is the same thing as running a business. Do you know of any business, particularly a publicly owned business, that tolerates employees doing "whatever the hell they want"?

243 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 6:20:28pm

re: #130 Lidane

Petrus as in St. Peter? Really? WTF.


"That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

244 Bubblehead II  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 6:23:31pm

Night Lizards. May You sleep well.

245 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 21, 2012 6:29:32pm

re: #239 carlaschluge

Hurry! Tell the Arkansas Bar Association that He should not have been disbarred!

You know, I really like Bill Clinton, but I've never referred to him as He, with the caps and all.


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