TN Bill Mandates Publication of Names of Abortion Doctors and Patients

The Republican Party’s total war on women’s rights
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The GOP’s war on women’s rights now has another weapon in its arsenal; in Tennessee, Republicans are pushing a new bill that would mandate publication of abortion data, including the names of both doctors and patients.

Sheer insanity.

Doctors who perform abortions in Tennessee could see their names listed online, and women who undergo the procedures could be unintentionally identified under a bill pending in the state legislature.

State lawmakers are debating a measure that would require the Department of Health to publish more details about abortions, bringing Tennessee into a roiling, state-by-state battle over how to regulate abortion procedures.

Supporters say the bill, scheduled to come up Wednesday in a state House committee, only requires state health officials to post information online that they already collect. But critics say the measure is intended to intimidate women and doctors involved in abortions, even in emergency situations.

“I think publicizing this information will do nothing but cause serious consequences,” said state Rep. Gary Odom, D-Nashville. “This is dangerous. This is a dangerous piece of legislation.”

UPDATE at 3/22/12 5:27:29 pm

Today, the Republican sponsor of the bill withdrew the publication mandate, after a huge outcry against it: TN Abortion Bill Sponsor Withdraws ID Provisions.

And with massive irony, he’s now whining that he received threats of violence — exactly what his bill was intended to provoke against abortion providers.

A controversial proposal to post details about each abortion performed in Tennessee on a state website has been withdrawn, with its chief sponsor accusing opponents of spreading lies about it and inciting threats of violence against him.

Rep. Matthew Hill, R-Jonesborough, told members of the Legislative Health and Human Service Committee on Wednesday the threats came after news of his proposal went viral this week — including being debated on MSNBC and dissected by national bloggers who suggested it would endanger women and their doctors. He said false reports about his bill also spread after the attention.

Hill said he was withdrawing the controversial provisions to be able to focus on passing other parts of the bill. What remains of the Life Defense Act of 2012, or HB3808, would require all doctors who perform abortions to obtain admitting privileges at area hospitals.

Hill said opponents’ “categorization of me as a terrorist, murderer or more has been used by their leftist friends to engender hatred and incite the threat of violence against me.” He wouldn’t discuss specific threats but said most were from out of state, and he referred them to authorities.

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410 comments
1 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:05:14pm

Because really, what could go wrong?

2 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:06:03pm

Just name it the "Dancing on George Tiller's Grave" Bill.

3 allegro  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:07:14pm
..women who undergo the procedures could be unintentionally identified under a bill pending in the state legislature.

Bullshit. There's nothing unintentional there.

4 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:07:27pm

re: #1 Lidane

Because really, what could go wrong?

Nobody that counts in Real America will be threatened, harassed, and perhaps murdered.

5 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:08:02pm

Too early to call them fascists yet?

6 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:09:00pm

re: #1 Lidane

Because really, what could go wrong?

That does raise an interesting legal question as to whether the state government could be held criminally liable if one of the patients listed ends up dead.

7 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:11:38pm

re: #6 Targetpractice

That does raise an interesting legal question as to whether the state government could be held criminally liable if one of the patients listed ends up dead.

Beyond that, what the fuck? Patients don't have the right to keep their medical records confidential anymore?

It's no one else's business what doctors I go to or what procedures I get done, no matter what it is. If my own family can't know about my medical records without my consent, what the hell gives these assholes the right to publicize anyone else's medical records?

8 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:12:11pm

In other words, "we are painting a target on their forehead."

9 abolitionist  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:12:27pm

Isn't this a gross violation of federal laws with regard to privacy in medical matters?

10 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:12:49pm

"Small government," ladies and gentlemen!

11 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:13:25pm

re: #9 abolitionist

Isn't this a gross violation of federal laws with regard to privacy in medical matters?

These are the same people who want to force transvaginal ultrasounds and slut shaming on women. As far as they're concerned, women don't have rights when it comes to their bodies or their autonomy.

12 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:13:39pm

re: #10 Targetpractice

"Small government," ladies and gentlemen!

Small enough to fit in a woman's uterus.

13 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:14:07pm

re: #9 abolitionist

Isn't this a gross violation of federal laws with regard to privacy in medical matters?

Yep. HIPPA. But, States Rights!

14 Four More Tears  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:14:10pm

The GOP is a great party for you if you are a self-hating (fill in the blank).

Or a white male...

15 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:14:13pm

re: #8 ggt

In other words, "we are painting a target on their forehead."

"It's not a target, it's a surveyor's mark."

16 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:15:36pm
"Small government," ladies and gentlemen!

They said smaller, they never said less.

17 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:16:10pm

re: #15 Decatur Deb

"It's not a target, it's a surveyor's mark."

It's a mandela.

18 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:16:29pm

re: #13 Bubblehead II

Yep. HIPPA. But, States Rights!

Some Animals are Equal than Others

19 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:17:19pm

And they wonder why I turned down a position that would have required me moving to the South.

20 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:17:44pm

And, as with all laws like this, the AMA is nowhere to be found.

21 jaunte  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:18:23pm

Domestic terrorism by proxy.

22 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:19:43pm

What was that Pages Post?

Something like "help I have an elephant in my uterus!"

23 Mattand  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:20:22pm

Jesus Christ, when does this stuff stop? It's like a fucking plague with these guys. I read this and then look at the bullshit going on next door in PA and just shake my head. How many states now are pushing this kind of government interference in people's personal lives? 8? 10?

My kingdom for a conservative who will just call this for what it is: religious-based misogyny.

24 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:20:23pm

WTF.

25 Mattand  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:21:00pm

re: #20 Targetpractice

And, as with all laws like this, the AMA is nowhere to be found.

Ya know, that's a very good point. Have they weighed in on this at all?

26 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:21:09pm

Night Lizards. Time to go for a ride. It is currently 66 degrees today. Should be a good ride. And I need it after a depressing day of watching todays postings.

27 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:21:28pm

I demand to see a list of all Viagra recipients so we can properly identify sexual deviants who defy the will of God!

28 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:22:29pm

re: #27 Kragar

I demand to see a list of all Viagra recipients so we can properly identify sexual deviants who defy the will of God!

Also, they must write an editorial in the local paper telling all about their ED.

29 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:23:18pm

Dogs want food.

later all!

30 freetoken  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:23:18pm

Don't forget the other Hand-Of-God item in the Tennessee legislature:

Tenn. Senate OKs Bill To Allow Anti-Evolution Talk In Classrooms

31 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:23:49pm

re: #21 jaunte

Domestic terrorism by proxy.

Rule by threat of violence. Creating a legal structure that facilitates extralegal punishment and penalization.

"We can't hurt you, but we can tell these people who totally will hurt you where you live...now comply."

32 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:24:16pm

And special blue license plates.

33 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:24:33pm

re: #31 The Ghost of a Flea

Rule by threat of violence. Creating a legal structure that facilitates extralegal punishment and penalization.

"We can't hurt you, but we can tell these people who totally will hurt you where you live...now comply."

"Sure would be a shame if anything were to happen to a nice girl like you."

34 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:25:22pm

re: #33 Kragar

"Sure would be a shame if anything were to happen to a nice girl like you."

Of, when applying for a job, "Sorry, we don't hire sluts who kill babies."

35 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:26:55pm

re: #32 Varek Raith

And special blue license plates.

What, they run out of scarlet "A's"?

36 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:27:27pm

re: #34 Obdicut

Of, when applying for a job, "Sorry, we don't hire sluts who kill babies."

Housing, too.

And given that a sizable chunk of abortions are performed on poor women who need not to have another child, it's also outing desperate women to their husbands.

37 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:27:35pm

re: #2 Obdicut

Just name it the "Dancing on George Tiller's Grave" Bill.

Or Eric Rudolph Memorial Bill.

38 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:27:59pm

re: #23 mattand

My kingdom for a conservative who will just call this for what it is: religious-based misogyny.

In an election year? Ha! Good luck with that.

Kay Bailey Hutchison defended Planned Parenthood and she's getting savaged for it, but she can do it because she's not up for re-election anyway.

39 jaunte  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:28:37pm
40 jaunte  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:29:06pm

Stop Scaring Women, You Democrats!

41 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:30:17pm

re: #40 jaunte

Stop Scaring Women, You Democrats!

"Its only a War on Women because you guys won't back down and do what you're told!" - GOP

42 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:31:57pm

Cathy McMorris-Rodgers, more projection than my death star.

43 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:33:13pm

U.S. official: Bales to be charged with 17 counts of murder

44 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:33:27pm

re: #42 Varek Raith

Cathy McMorris-Rodgers, more projection than my death star.

That's a pretty low bar! //

45 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:34:33pm

re: #44 Liberal Entity

That's a pretty low bar! //

Oh?
Would you like to count your own atoms???
/

46 Talking Point Detective  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:34:58pm

re: #7 Lidane

Beyond that, what the fuck? Patients don't have the right to keep their medical records confidential anymore?

It's no one else's business what doctors I go to or what procedures I get done, no matter what it is. If my own family can't know about my medical records without my consent, what the hell gives these assholes the right to publicize anyone else's medical records?

I am a caretaker for two people. Whenever I want to act on their behalf, HIPAA rules require that I have signed documents before I can gain access to any information about their medical history. And this is for someone who is freakin' trying to help them manage their healthcare.

There is no way - using a consistent logic, that this bill can be consistent with HIPAA rules - both in terms of the letter of the laws and in terms of the spirit of the laws.

I tend to avoid over-the-top hyperbole - but this kind of legislation cannot but remind me of scarlet letters and stake-burning.

47 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:35:27pm

re: #43 Varek Raith

U.S. official: Bales to be charged with 17 counts of murder

Already with the derpy comments.

Obama (remember he is the Commander in Chief), and the rest of the liberal yahoos in his administration are gonna hang this guy out to dry. How can the Military support this Prez, when he obviously does not support them?

48 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:35:39pm

re: #45 Varek Raith

Oh?
Would you like to count your own atoms???
/

Twinkle, twinkle, wittle star ;)

49 Talking Point Detective  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:36:09pm

re: #35 Targetpractice

What, they run out of scarlet "A's"?

I missed this comment, but posted the same reaction below.

50 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:36:22pm

re: #46 Talking Point Detective

I tend to avoid over-the-top hyperbole - but this kind of legislation cannot but remind me of scarlet letters and stake-burning.

It's not over-the-top hyperbole if it's true. That's basically the point of bills like this.

51 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:36:39pm

re: #47 Varek Raith

Already with the derpy comments.

Yeah, how can you support the troops if you don't condone the shooting of civilians?
///

Fucking morons.

52 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:37:30pm

Good thing I'm going on vacation soon.
Too much insanity.
Yeesh.

53 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:37:57pm

re: #52 Varek Raith

Good thing I'm going on vacation soon.
Too much insanity.
Yeesh.

Heh. Where, if not a secret?

54 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:38:57pm

re: #53 Liberal Entity

Heh. Where, of not a secret?

Outer Banks of NC.
Was there last summer. Too bad it was 110 degrees the whole week.
Opted to go in spring this time.
House right on the beach.

55 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:39:25pm

re: #47 Varek Raith

Already with the derpy comments.

How many of those fuckwits have actually ever worn the uniform, have known the responsibility and commitment that comes with such an honor? Fellow soldiers from the fort Bales' is stationed out of have stated that they were shocked and appalled by what he's done, yet these armchair generals think that Obama should be supporting Bales for killing and burning women and children? Fuck the whole fucking lot of them!

56 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:39:27pm

re: #51 Kragar

Yeah, how can you support the troops if you don't condone the shooting of civilians?
///

Fucking morons.

It's like the people who savaged the Bush administration for "not supporting the troops" over Abu Ghraib. What the fuck.

57 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:41:01pm

re: #55 Targetpractice

How many of those fuckwits have actually ever worn the uniform, have known the responsibility and commitment that comes with such an honor?

What? They're brave members of the 101st Chairborne. They're patriotic, don'tcha know.

///

58 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:42:35pm

OT, but very time sensitive--

Amazon is selling a nine-hour selection of Bach MP3 downloads for 99 cents. I think the deal goes away in a day or so. The collection is anchored by the B Minor Mass and the Brandenburgs. (The mass is broken into 28 files, but not stupidly.) It took about 15 minutes to download it, but you can use their Cloud feature. I had to fire up a Windows machine to catch it--the downloader didn't like my Linux.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

59 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:44:18pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb

OT, but very time sensitive--

Amazon is selling a nine-hour selection of Bach MP3 downloads for 99 cents. I think the deal goes away in a day or so. The collection is anchored by the B Minor Mass and the Brandenburgs. (The mass is broken into 28 files, but not stupidly.) It took about 15 minutes to download it, but you can use their Cloud feature. I had to fire up a Windows machine to catch it--the downloader didn't like my Linux.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

The B minor Mass will rip your head off if you see it live from good orchestra section seats.

60 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:46:04pm

re: #59 Killgore Trout

The B minor Mass will rip your head off if you see it live from good orchestra section seats.

If there is only one piece of music to be saved...

61 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:46:14pm

re: #56 Lidane

It's like the people who savaged the Bush administration for "not supporting the troops" over Abu Gharib. What the fuck.

The important thing is that our troops understand that what they do to foreign brown people really doesn't matter because we're God's chosen nation.

62 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:46:41pm

re: #61 The Ghost of a Flea

Let God sort'em out./

63 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:47:20pm

re: #46 Talking Point Detective

I am a caretaker for two people. Whenever I want to act on their behalf, HIPAA rules require that I have signed documents before I can gain access to any information about their medical history. And this is for someone who is freakin' trying to help them manage their healthcare.

There is no way - using a consistent logic, that this bill can be consistent with HIPAA rules - both in terms of the letter of the laws and in terms of the spirit of the laws.

I tend to avoid over-the-top hyperbole - but this kind of legislation cannot but remind me of scarlet letters and stake-burning.

The Republican party is inciting murder


that is exactly what they are doing, they are using the threat of murder as an intimidation tactic

64 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:48:54pm

re: #47 Varek Raith

I generally avoid arguing on the Twitter with crazy folk, but I couldn't resist today. Some woman was slamming the liberals, Obama, the Democrats (you know the story) while having an avatar of Mother Mary. Quite honestly, it disgusted me. It was like she was using her face to figuratively bludgeon people so I made a comment. I received a flurry of 7 tweets from her screaming about everything from Israel to Rev. Wright to abortion, racism, socialism. Just a real loony.

My first thought was how does Charles deal with this for... like 9 years now?

65 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:50:50pm

re: #43 Varek Raith

U.S. official: Bales to be charged with 17 counts of murder

I read that after coming back to his barracks and admitting what he did, he requested by name his attorney. Fucking asshole.

66 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:53:36pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb

OT, but very time sensitive--

Amazon is selling a nine-hour selection of Bach MP3 downloads for 99 cents. I think the deal goes away in a day or so. The collection is anchored by the B Minor Mass and the Brandenburgs. (The mass is broken into 28 files, but not stupidly.) It took about 15 minutes to download it, but you can use their Cloud feature. I had to fire up a Windows machine to catch it--the downloader didn't like my Linux.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Thanks for the tip - downloading now.

67 freetoken  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:55:39pm

Bachmania runs wild at LGF.

68 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:56:09pm

re: #67 freetoken

Bachmania runs wild at LGF.

Not really, if we don't count The Michelle.

69 researchok  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:56:10pm

Naming patients and doctors?

Might as well hand out bright red bulls eye t shirts.

70 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:59:52pm

Bach, Sarabande (BWV 996)

Youtube Video
71 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:01:00pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Bach, Sarabande (BWV 996)

[Embedded content]

I gotta dust off my lute one of these days, I haven't even opened up the case in years.

72 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:03:01pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

I gotta dust off my lute one of these days, I haven't even opened up the case in years.

Is that what the kids are calling that now?

73 BongCrodny  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:03:29pm

re: #64 Madge

My first thought was how does Charles deal with this for... like 9 years now?

They weren't quite as crazy before January 2009.

74 b_Snark  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:03:34pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

I gotta dust off my lute one of these days, I haven't even opened up the case in years.

Is it packed in lye?

75 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:03:54pm

For you Walking Dead watchers. My friend sent me this.

The Walking Dead

76 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:04:20pm

re: #72 Decatur Deb

Is that what the kids are calling that now?

Not all lutes are equal, size matters

Youtube Video
77 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:04:47pm

re: #73 BongCrodny

They weren't quite as crazy before January 2009.

They were plenty crazy.

78 ramex  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:05:00pm

One word: terrorism.

79 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:05:39pm

re: #76 Killgore Trout

Not all lutes are equal, size matters

[Embedded content]

That's one big ass lute.

80 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:06:00pm

CDC: Only half of first marriages last 20 years

Among women there was just a 52 percent chance that a first marriage would survive for 20 years, according to the report from the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics. Men appeared to be slightly more successful, with a 56 percent chance of a first marriage surviving for two decades.

The older marriage age doesn’t mean that people aren’t getting into relationships – they’re just choosing to live together instead. “There’s been a real rise in the prevalence of cohabitation,” said the report’s lead author, Casey E. Copen, a demographer with the National Survey of Family Growth at the National Center for Health Statistics.

The percentage of women living with a partner (as opposed to marrying him) has nearly quadrupled from 3 percent in 1982 to 11 percent in the newest survey. The earlier surveys included data only from women so the researchers couldn’t look at whether there had been a change in the rate at which men were choosing to live together rather than to marry.

81 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:06:17pm

re: #76 Killgore Trout

re: #79 Varek Raith

That's one big ass lute.

Overcompensating minstrel.

82 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:06:47pm

Some lute music played by Vladimir Vavilov:

MP3 Audio

MP3 Audio

MP3 Audio
83 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:07:05pm

re: #79 Varek Raith

That's one big ass lute.

Looks good on a death star!

84 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:07:50pm

re: #75 Oh geeze.

For you Walking Dead watchers. My friend sent me this.

The Walking Dead

Ha! I like that.

Also, Daryl is awesome. I can't wait to see him interact with Michonne.

85 b_Snark  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:08:00pm

My wife bought some Twinkies so we can watch Zombieland

86 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:10:10pm

re: #84 Lidane

Ha! I like that.

Also, Daryl is awesome. I can't wait to see him interact with Michonne.

Daryl is my fav. Did they ever find his bro? My memory from episode to episode is pretty damn faulty. I bought the last 4 on itunes. I enjoy re-watching. A lot.

87 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:10:26pm

re: #82 Liberal Entity

Some lute music played by Vladimir Vavilov:

[Embedded content]

Greensleves, the Stairway to heaven of lute players.

88 Talking Point Detective  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:11:02pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb

OT, but very time sensitive--

Amazon is selling a nine-hour selection of Bach MP3 downloads for 99 cents. I think the deal goes away in a day or so. The collection is anchored by the B Minor Mass and the Brandenburgs. (The mass is broken into 28 files, but not stupidly.) It took about 15 minutes to download it, but you can use their Cloud feature. I had to fire up a Windows machine to catch it--the downloader didn't like my Linux.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

From the disgusting (topic of this post) to the sublime:

Youtube Video

Nothing like a Bach cantata to raise my spirits.

89 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:12:57pm

re: #80 Lidane

CDC: Only half of first marriages last 20 years

No wonder America's falling apart, nobody will get married and stay married! We gotta end no-fault divorce and make it illegal to get out of a marriage! And then makes laws that make it virtually impossible to live together without getting married!

90 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:13:04pm

re: #86 Hoodies for Justice. T

Daryl is my fav. Did they ever find his bro? My memory from episode to episode is pretty damn faulty. I bought the last 4 on itunes. I enjoy re-watching. A lot.

No, Merle hasn't shown up again, except in one episode where Daryl was injured and hallucinating, IIRC.

91 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:14:05pm

re: #88 Talking Point Detective

I like the inspiringly devilish joi de vivre of Mahler's first.

Youtube Video
92 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:14:42pm
93 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:15:07pm

How wingnuts think:

94 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:16:26pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

How wingnuts think:

So then Jones thinks that pregnancy automatically strips a woman of all her rights, even allows the state to criminalize her activities from the moment of conception?

95 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:16:33pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

How wingnuts think:

Of course, once they're born, fuck 'em. Single moms are killing the country!


Fucking bastards.

96 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:17:22pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

How wingnuts think:

@Lizardoid great, we need to know who the baby killers are! It's not a woman's right issue, it's a life of the unborn issue.

— Nic Jones (@WorstNameInNews) March 23, 2012

Just as soon as they can make those babies without using a woman....

97 freetoken  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:19:15pm

Not quite on topic, but certainly qualifies for WTF?

Human fetuses found in luggage at Miami airport

Authorities say customs agents at Miami International Airport found two human fetuses in luggage coming from Cuba.

A Miami-Dade police spokesman said Thursday that the fetuses were found Jan. 30 in the luggage of two Cuban-American women returning from Havana.

Police say customs agents spotted one fetus when they X-rayed a clay jar and found the second when they opened the jar. One was male and one was female.

A medical examiner determined both fetuses were about 20 weeks and both had been still born. No foul play was suspected.

98 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:19:48pm

If anyone's using TweetDeck, there's a new version out today with some really nice new features: [Link: blog.twitter.com...]

99 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:20:23pm

re: #94 Targetpractice

So then Jones thinks that pregnancy automatically strips a woman of all her rights, even allows the state to criminalize her activities from the moment of conception?

That's pretty much the line of RWNJ "thinking" right there, but of course, as soon as the baby is born, all bets are off and all involved are on their own.

100 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:21:40pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

TYPICAL, A man states the case. Assholes.

101 erik_t  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:21:49pm

Reaaaaally not super-clear on how federal law works, I see. Or more cynically, well-aware that such a provision could never actually hold up in the courts, but great for firing up the idiot base (a) in general and (b) against the eeeeevil Activist Judges (TM).

Must be Thursday.

102 Interesting Times  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:23:04pm

re: #96 wrenchwench

I don't think you were online when I first posted this 46-sec Youtube clip:

Youtube Video

She'd make a fine GOP/Fox News pundit.

103 freetoken  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:25:28pm

Some older Republicans desperately crying out for help:


A Republican litmus test harms our party

By William Brock, Jack Danforth, Trent Lott and Don Nickles

[After trying to blame Senate Democrats for the lack of legislation...]

The question this election year is whether Republicans can build a coalition of voters large enough to win the support of our nation, gain a majority in the Senate, end the hyper-partisan gridlock so exemplified by the abusive actions of the Democratic Senate majority, and restore this land’s traditional spirit and optimism.

As the campaign season began, prospects looked promising. A dismal economy and the president’s low approval ratings suggested a clear opportunity. Moreover, Democratic Party policies of more spending, higher taxes, endlessly multiplying intrusive regulations, and picking winners and losers in business were opposed by Republicans across the board and served as ready-made rallying points on which to campaign. Our party held the high ground. We could fight the battle on principles central in the minds of every Republican.

Perhaps the optimism rose too quickly, for false divisions, based more on labels than facts, began to be raised. “Moderate” became an epithet to be hurled at opponents said to be something less than true Republicans. The acronym RINO (Republican in Name Only) was used to vilify men and women who had devoted much of their lives to serving in office or supporting our party’s candidates. One need go no further than to note that primary challenges were mounted against two of our most distinguished and dedicated Senate icons, Orrin Hatch and Richard Lugar, with claims that even these solid conservatives were not pure enough.

In our day, it was common for conservative Republicans to campaign for moderate colleagues, and vice versa. The goal was control of the Senate, not absolute ideological conformity, because the ultimate purpose was to keep Congress true to America’s core values — and that result required a majority.

Many of these more recent assaults constitute an attempt at a political purge, an effort to remove from the party all but the “doctrinally pure,” however critics define purity. Such efforts would deny all that our party is. We do not have the right to determine who can “be” a Republican on the basis of some litmus test, ever.


Republicans have learned from 150 years of practical experience in elective politics that inclusion, not exclusion, is the winning formula. Since the party’s inception, its principles and unifying philosophy have spanned the concerns and principles held by much of the American electorate. We have no need to qualify the word “Republican”; we simply have to live up to it.

The problem for this quartet is that they can't have their cake and eat it too. In other words, they want to play word games and blame games, then all of a sudden protest when the same thing is turned on them by their fellow "Republicans", who just happen to be either more theocratic or anti-democratic than they are.

104 Talking Point Detective  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:25:32pm

re: #91 Obdicut

I like the inspiringly devilish joi de vivre of Mahler's first.

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I'm not generally inclined towards Mahler - or the Romantic period more generally - but it's interesting to find the origination of that tune, and maybe I should open my mind more. I have, in the past, found that my musical prejudices can be broken down through more listening; Kenny G notwithstanding.

105 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:29:54pm

re: #94 Targetpractice

So then Jones thinks that pregnancy automatically strips a woman of all her rights, even allows the state to criminalize her activities from the moment of conception?

Yes. That's the activist "pro-life" position in a nutshell.

As soon as a woman gets pregnant or even opens her legs and has sex, all of her rights cease to exist.

106 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:30:46pm

re: #104 Talking Point Detective

I like Mahler better than most of the Romantics because he's so damn wicked and that undercuts all the hyperbole. The way that the funeral march breaks up into jaunty, almost jazzy movement is really funny to me.

107 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:31:49pm

See the update above: the sponsor of the crazy bill has withdrawn the publication mandate after a huge outcry -- and is now complaining that he received threats.

108 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:32:08pm
Republicans have learned from 150 years of practical experience in elective politics that inclusion, not exclusion, is the winning formula.

If by "inclusion" you mean working to appeal to every rich white Christian male landowner, then yes.

There's a reason why the GOP has problems with women and minorities, and it's not because the Dems are shining pillars of virtue.

109 freetoken  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:32:55pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

"Massive irony" indeed.

110 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:34:08pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

See the update above: the sponsor of the crazy bill has withdrawn the publication mandate after a huge outcry -- and is now complaining that he received threats.

Its like goldy or bronzy, but made out of iron.

111 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:35:01pm

re: #103 freetoken

Some older Republicans desperately crying out for help:

A Republican litmus test harms our party

By William Brock, Jack Danforth, Trent Lott and Don Nickles

[After trying to blame Senate Democrats for the lack of legislation...]

The problem for this quartet is that they can't have their cake and eat it too. In other words, they want to play word games and blame games, then all of a sudden protest when the same thing is turned on them by their fellow "Republicans", who just happen to be either more theocratic or anti-democratic than they are.

Another "moderate" shocked and appalled at the base's behavior, after spending years encouraging it and downplaying the possibility that the patients may take over the asylum. How much of it genuine and how much of it is just old-guard shocked that the base has drug them into such a precarious position that they might lose out their only chance to take over the White House and both houses of Congress in one election?

112 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:36:55pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

See the update above: the sponsor of the crazy bill has withdrawn the publication mandate after a huge outcry -- and is now complaining that he received threats.

Stupid idiot faced with the task of writing laws.

Sometimes I just feel like we are fucked.

113 abolitionist  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:36:58pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

See the update above: the sponsor of the crazy bill has withdrawn the publication mandate after a huge outcry -- and is now complaining that he received threats.

With Tennessee being a stand-your-ground state, this could get very ugly very fast. / just a wee bit

114 freetoken  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:37:43pm

re: #111 Targetpractice

The problem that these old guys face is that some of their still serving friends in the good-ol-boy chamber (the "Senate") are getting roughed up by the true believers.

This is what happens when the country club set can no longer control the hyper-religious masses which they've calculatingly used all these years to the advantage of the club set.

115 Robert O.  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:38:50pm

I have a better idea: How about we pass a bill mandating the publication of names of people and which way they vote on marriage equality referendums? Since major companies and their human resource departments tend to be quite progressive when it comes to bias, a right-winger choose to be total a--holes - they just won't be working for Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc.

116 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:41:17pm

re: #114 freetoken

This is what happens when the country club set can no longer control the hyper-religious masses which they've calculatingly used all these years to the advantage of the club set.

To paraphrase Charlie Pierce, no one is in control of the GOP's ship right now because a bunch of folks from steerage took over in 2010 and threw the wheel overboard.

The Republican party used their Southern Strategy for 40 years, playing on fear, ignorance, religious bigotry, and racial/class resentment. They made a lot of promises over that time, and never had any intention of fulfilling them. It was all just to win elections. Now they've got people in power who are determined to make good on what the GOP has been saying all these decades and it's biting the party leadership in the ass.

117 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:41:51pm

re: #114 freetoken

The problem that these old guys face is that some of their still serving friends in the good-ol-boy chamber (the "Senate") are getting roughed up by the true believers.

This is what happens when the country club set can no longer control the hyper-religious masses which they've calculatingly used all these years to the advantage of the club set.

Not just getting roughed up, but being forced to try to out-wingnut the wingnuts or just give up and walk away. How many seats are they gonna lose this November because the base has put so much pressure on them to "conform or get out"?

118 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:44:36pm

Dogs ate, are now full of energy and driving me crazy-er.

119 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:45:48pm

Stephen White ‏

RT @thinkprogress: Patrick Ewing, Ray Lewis, Jesse Jackson coming to Sanford city commission Monday #justice4trayvon

120 jaunte  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:46:26pm

re: #96 wrenchwench

Just as soon as they can make those babies without using a woman...

They need some excuse for practising so much.

121 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:46:30pm

re: #119 Hoodies for Justice. T

Stephen White ‏

RT @thinkprogress: Patrick Ewing, Ray Lewis, Jesse Jackson coming to Sanford city commission Monday #justice4trayvon

Sanford Florida, you deserve this. Fix it. Now.

122 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:47:53pm

Now up to 44 hits from that Breitbart.com link.

Wow. Their traffic really must be tanking. That's pitiful.

123 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:48:07pm

Richard Hanna, GOP Congressman, Tells Women To Give Their Money To Democrats

As the only Republican Congressman at a rally for the Equal Rights Amendment on Thursday, Rep. Richard Hanna (R-N.Y.) gave women an unexpected piece of advice: Give your money to Democrats.

"I think these are very precarious times for women, it seems. So many of your rights are under assault," he told the crowd of mostly women. "I'll tell you this: Contribute your money to people who speak out on your behalf, because the other side -- my side -- has a lot of it. And you need to send your own message. You need to remind people that you vote, you matter, and that they can't succeed without your help."

124 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:48:32pm

re: #46 Talking Point Detective

I am a caretaker for two people. Whenever I want to act on their behalf, HIPAA rules require that I have signed documents before I can gain access to any information about their medical history. And this is for someone who is freakin' trying to help them manage their healthcare.

There is no way - using a consistent logic, that this bill can be consistent with HIPAA rules - both in terms of the letter of the laws and in terms of the spirit of the laws.

I tend to avoid over-the-top hyperbole - but this kind of legislation cannot but remind me of scarlet letters and stake-burning.

My 79 yo old mother had to get my 81 yo Dad to sign Hippa papers before she could talk to the pharmacist about his meds. Dad had a stroke and couldn't talk, read or write. They had been married for 48 years.

Now what sensitive info could there possibly be that my Mom or Dad would sue the pharmacy over?

They used an STD as an example. REALLY?

125 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:48:42pm

re: #123 Lidane

Richard Hanna, GOP Congressman, Tells Women To Give Their Money To Democrats

RINO!

126 freetoken  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:49:15pm

re: #123 Lidane

Well, he's not going to last long at the roasting.

re: #125 Targetpractice

Heh.

127 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:49:47pm

re: #47 Varek Raith

Already with the derpy comments.

ROE are not a license to murder.

128 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:49:51pm

re: #124 ggt

My 79 yo old mother had to get my 81 yo Dad to sign Hippa papers before she could talk to the pharmacist about his meds. Dad had a stroke and couldn't talk, read or write. They had been married for 48 years.

Now what sensitive info could there possibly be that my Mom or Dad would sue the pharmacy over?

They used an STD as an example. REALLY?

Well, absent the stroke, an 81 year old could still be having a wild time...

Okay, no, that's stupid.

129 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:53:22pm

re: #127 ggt

ROE are not a license to murder.

But they're just dirty furriners who don't speak English and don't worship the right God! Who cares?

///

130 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:55:49pm

re: #128 To hold my temper, most of the time.

Well, absent the stroke, an 81 year old could still be having a wild time...

Okay, no, that's stupid.

Not stupid, it lightens the mood.

There's an old PBS story/film about sex in the nursing home. I'll never forget. One of the stories was of Dad, way gone with Alzheimer's. Family came for visit (including his wife) and caught him getting a blow job.

It is apparently a major thing to keep the seniors off each other.

gives me major hope.

131 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:57:05pm

re: #129 Lidane

///

I think soldiers must do some sort of mental gymnastics to live with the work the do. The enemy has to be objectified to some degree. I hope this is accomplished in a healthy way during training. I may be wrong, I've never worn the uniform.

Obviously every person with testosterone is not made to be a soldier.

132 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:57:48pm

re: #128 To hold my temper, most of the time.

Well, absent the stroke, an 81 year old could still be having a wild time...

Okay, no, that's stupid.

I understand that there are old women who charge to take their teeth out.

Seriously.

133 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 5:59:02pm

re: #130 Hoodies for Justice. T

Not stupid, it lightens the mood.

There's an old PBS story/film about sex in the nursing home. I'll never forget. One of the stories was of Dad, way gone with Alzheimer's. Family came for visit (including his wife) and caught him getting a blow job.

It is apparently a major thing to keep the seniors off each other.

gives me major hope.

Reproduction is a survival tool hard wired into the reptile brain.

134 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:01:19pm

re: #133 ggt

Reproduction is a survival tool hard wired into the reptile brain.

No, sex is just good. Always.

135 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:02:12pm

re: #134 Hoodies for Justice. T

No, sex is just good. Always.

WELL, according to the GOP, if you are not a white-male . . . . .

136 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:06:01pm

re: #135 ggt

WELL, according to the GOP, if you are not a white-male . . .

Regular white male or hispanic white male?
/

137 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:09:04pm

re: #135 ggt

WELL, according to the GOP, if you are not a white-male . . .

But you also can't be two males.

138 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:10:14pm

EXCELLENT!

139 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:11:21pm

Santorum insists Texas crucial to his campaign

"I need as many reactionary backwards hicks as I can get!"

140 SidewaysQuark  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:11:30pm

Of all these weird reproductive bills that have been introduced lately, this is without a doubt the foulest and most blatantly wrong.

141 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:12:14pm

Trent Lott is about as moderate as Ann Coulter. Which is to say, in the current GOP they are moderate.

142 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:12:30pm

re: #140 SidewaysQuark

Of all these weird reproductive bills that have been introduced lately, this is without a doubt the foulest and most blatantly wrong.

Wait a week. They're constantly one upping each other.

143 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:12:52pm
144 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:13:01pm

re: #136 Kragar

Regular white male or hispanic white male?
/

depends if one is a rent boy . . .

145 Talking Point Detective  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:13:11pm

re: #124 ggt

My 79 yo old mother had to get my 81 yo Dad to sign Hippa papers before she could talk to the pharmacist about his meds. Dad had a stroke and couldn't talk, read or write. They had been married for 48 years.

Now what sensitive info could there possibly be that my Mom or Dad would sue the pharmacy over?

They used an STD as an example. REALLY?

Yeah - sometimes it's just absurd. The hoops I have to jump through sometimes fly in the face of common sense. I can't even get information such as whether they have received a form in the mail if they can't find the signed release in their files.

I understand the principle involved, and we're better off with those kinds of protections than without them - but sometimes the default of distrust is counterproductive. For example, I'm a caretaker for someone with mental illness, and instead of just talking with me to find out a reasonably balanced take on what's going on, sometimes people need to listen to a wigged out delusional explanation from the person I'm taking care of before they just give up and come back to me to hear what I have to say. I've learned not to get too pissed, but sometimes - particularly when I get that institutional condescension and rudeness - it's difficult to prevent myself from going upside people's heads.

146 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:13:14pm

Anybody watching that new Jack Bauer series with the psychic autistic kid?

I watched part of it last week. Sucked. There's no way TV script writers can sustain that story line without jumping a flock of sharks in outer space.

147 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:14:07pm

re: #146 Learned Mother of Zion

Anybody watching that new Jack Bauer series with the psychic autistic kid?

I watched part of it last week. Sucked. There's no way TV script writers can sustain that story line without jumping a flock of sharks in outer space.

I can't watch much TV anymore. It hurts my brain.

148 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:14:12pm

re: #139 Kragar

Santorum insists Texas crucial to his campaign

"I need as many reactionary backwards hicks as I can get!"

There are plenty of them around here.

Last poll I saw had Santorum winning in Texas by a near 3-to-1 margin. I'd be amazed if he dropped out before the primary here.

149 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:14:52pm

re: #147 ggt

I can't watch much TV anymore. It hurts my brain.

I watch TV when teh Intertoobz starts hurtin my brain.

150 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:15:06pm

re: #148 Lidane

There are plenty of them around here.

Last poll I saw had Santorum winning in Texas by a near 3-to-1 margin. I'd be amazed if he dropped out before the primary here.

I'll be amazed if anybody drops out before the convention. They're all now dedicated to one goal: Denying Romney the nomination, even if it means forcing a brokered convention.

151 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:15:10pm

re: #146 Learned Mother of Zion

does it turn out that according to the 25th amendment, the psychic kid is next in line to succeed president palmer

152 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:15:20pm

re: #138 ggt

EXCELLENT!

SERIOUSLY! Watch it, like the filmaker on your fb.

Wow, young people like this are, hopefully, our future.

153 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:15:40pm

re: #151 windupbird is in the gravity well

does it turn out that according to the 25th amendment, the psychic kid is next in line to succeed president palmer

Wasn't that a Michael Caine movie?

154 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:16:07pm

re: #149 Learned Mother of Zion

I watch TV when teh Intertoobz starts hurtin my brain.

That's when I read books.

155 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:16:27pm

re: #146 Learned Mother of Zion

Anybody watching that new Jack Bauer series with the psychic autistic kid?

I watched part of it last week. Sucked. There's no way TV script writers can sustain that story line without jumping a flock of sharks in outer space.

I heard the commercial "I'm here to help you" and my brain immediately added "I'M JACK BAUER!"

156 freetoken  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:17:39pm

The Fordham Institute blog entry from today:

Still dissing Darwin

Despite pressures to upgrade the teaching and learning of “STEM” subjects [...] state standards for science, although often revised, remain, on average, mediocre—undemanding, lacking crucial science content, and chockablock with pedagogical and sociological irrelevancies. That’s the conclusion of Fordham’s most recent review of state science standards to which I contributed. [...]

There are, of course, multiple reasons for the low marks. Among these, the saddest and least justifiable is what the authors call “Undermining Evolution.”

Evolution science (grown over 150 years far beyond geology and biology) is by no means the whole of natural science. [...] It is central to all life science and one of its most active fields. Yet the reviewers find that, in many states, evolution is weakly, incompletely, even erroneously presented—unlike elements of other currently active areas such as modern physics or cell biology. Evolution is singled out in high-minded calls for “critical thinking,” for “strengths and weaknesses”—as though it were less reliable, less scientific, than the others! Basics of evolutionary biology are sometimes covered while the E-word itself, evolution, is avoided, or mentioned reluctantly in connection with high school (but not elementary or middle school) work.

Particularly dismaying is how rarely state standards indicate that evolution has anything to do with us, Homo sapiens. Even states with thorough coverage of evolution, like Massachusetts, avoid linking that controversial term with ourselves. Only four states—Florida, New Hampshire, Iowa, and Rhode Island—discuss human evolution in their current standards. This isn’t just a Bible Belt issue. Even the bluest of blue states don’t expect their students to know that humans and apes share ancestry.

Why? The answer is not the first one that springs to mind: religion. To be sure, religion—biblical literalism—is one part of the thrust to undermine standards for evolution. But politics is the other, probably more important element. A focused combination of politics with religion, in pursuit of (or opposed to) governmental action, is vastly more effective than either one alone.

Those eager to deny evolution for religious reasons are not just Christians who steer by every word of scripture. They include some (not all) fundamentalists of all three Abrahamic faiths, plus a very few anti-science academics. Understandably, the literalists don’t want children taught in school what must be falsehoods from their perspective. By themselves, however, religious anti-evolutionists would wield scant power over state decisions. Real power comes by politicizing the arguments and switching them from scripture to more stylish notions: “scientific alternatives,” “critical thinking,” or—most commonly—“strengths and weaknesses of [Darwin’s] theory.” When these are pressed by politicians dissing “Darwinism,” a downgrading of science is underway.

[...]

Central to every effort to squeeze some variant of creationism into public education is the idea of grouping people, identifying the "other", and basing elections on this dichotomy.

It's a false dichotomy in many ways when it comes to evolution, because the truth is that so many people who get involved in political brouhahas over "evolution" really understand the concept.

For the hyper-religious the battle is important because the "others" are infidels. Then, craft politicians figure they can add that hyper-religious demographic to the combined constituency and get elected/re-elected.

Science is the sacrificial lamb for such politics.

157 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:17:49pm

re: #153 ggt

Wasn't that a Michael Caine movie?

surprise season finale plot twist, Drew Barrymore shows up at the end having been blackmailed by Viktor Draaazen, and sets Jack Bauer on fire with her Firestarter powers

then Viktor Drazen explodes into ravens

158 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:17:57pm

re: #155 Kragar

I heard the commercial "I'm here to help you" and my brain immediately added "I'M JACK BAUER!"

Kiefer Sutherland is going to be Jack Bauer for the rest of his life. It won't matter if he plays Steven Hawking.

159 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:18:39pm

re: #154 ggt

That's when I read books.

I have almost completely stopped watching TV or movies, it's great


rereading all the Bachman books! Running Man for the win

160 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:19:07pm

re: #158 Learned Mother of Zion

Kiefer Sutherland is going to be Jack Bauer for the rest of his life. It won't matter if he plays Steven Hawking.

he'll always be a Lost Boy to me

161 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:19:29pm

or Ace from Stand By Me, always relevant

162 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:20:10pm

I have a pile of non-fiction books piling up. I see a major book binge in my future.

This looks so interesting. I saw the author talk and can't wait to get into it.

163 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:20:35pm

re: #147 ggt

I can't watch much TV anymore. It hurts my brain.

Now that The Walking Dead is done until the fall, I don't have much of anything to watch anymore. Psych is winding down, and both Burn Notice and Leverage are done until whenever, so my TV watching is limited at best.

It's just as well. I just started my final project for grad school so that's going to take my attention until May. Maybe by then that Netflix series that Eli Roth is working on will be out. That might be interesting.

164 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:20:40pm

re: #162 ggt

I have a pile of non-fiction books piling up. I see a major book binge in my future.

This looks so interesting. I saw the author talk and can't wait to get into it.

You're an odd one.
/

165 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:21:06pm

re: #164 Varek Raith

You're an odd one.
/

I'm alive.

166 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:23:16pm

re: #165 ggt

I'm alive.

O_o

167 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:23:21pm

re: #162 ggt

you and my friend who serves on a utility board in oregon would get along great

168 Amory Blaine  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:26:59pm

Former James O’Keefe ‘Accomplice’ Reveals ‘Barn Incident’ And Harassment Complaint

Last week, we reported that Nadia Naffe, self-described “accomplice” to conservative activist James O’Keefe , had begun publishing a multi-part tell-all series of posts to her blog. Thursday morning, Naffe published the second part, which details her version of the events that led her to file a criminal harassment complaint against O’Keefe in November, and which includes documents related to a sexual harassment settlement between O’Keefe and “CNN Sex Boat Caper” whistleblower Izzy Santa. O’Keefe filed suit against Naffe on Wednesday to obtain an injunction against publication of those documents, and of emails that O’Keefe claims she stole from his computer.

Since publishing the first part of her tell-all, Nadia Naffe has been the subject of relentless attacks on Twitter, and has responded defiantly, promising to publish 7 years worth of O’Keefe’s emails and documents (which she says she obtained when the conservative provocateur borrowed her Android phone and linked his Gmail account with hers), and to give a full accounting of the events that led her to file a criminal harassment complaint against him in November. Ms. Naffe’s complaint alleged that O’Keefe invited her to his New Jersey home to work on a project, where she was to stay in a finished barn to save money on hotels. They got into an argument, according to Naffe, and O’Keefe abandoned her in the barn, refusing to take her to a train station so she could go home.

Naffe also alleged that she began to feel physical disorientation, and was eventually unable to move under her own control, after sharing beer with O’Keefe. She said O’Keefe and a friend eventually drove her to Penn Station in New York and that O’Keefe and his friend had to help her into the car, and that she passed out during the ride. She says she woke up at the train station, and later noticed items, including panties, missing from her luggage.

169 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:27:02pm

re: #162 ggt

I have a pile of non-fiction books piling up. I see a major book binge in my future.

This looks so interesting. I saw the author talk and can't wait to get into it.

This is next on my list after I finish school. Also, this. When I was growing up, my (now ex) stepdad worked at NASA, so this sort of stuff has always interested me.

170 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:27:09pm

Florida governor appoints new prosecutor in Trayvon Martin case

Florida Gov. Rick Scott and Attorney General Pam Bondi said Thursday that they had appointed a new prosecutor to investigate the shooting death of Trayvon Martin and would appoint a committee on citizen safety that would examine the state's "Stand Your Ground" law. Martin, an unarmed 17-year-old, was killed by a self-described neighborhood watch guard in February.

171 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:27:12pm

re: #167 windupbird is in the gravity well

you and my friend who serves on a utility board in oregon would get along great

The author talk was not dry, it was full of history that was relevant to today.

172 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:28:16pm

re: #169 Lidane

This is next on my list after I finish school. Also, this. When I was growing up, my (now ex) stepdad worked at NASA, so this sort of stuff has always interested me.

Those do look interesting!

173 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:29:31pm

Tweetdeck for iPhone doesn't have the global filter feature, so when I was just trying it out I got to see some of the tweets from the wingnuts I've blocked. Wow. Looks like the stalkers now have at least a dozen sock puppet accounts on Twitter, for no purpose except to harass me and everyone I interact with, and they're really, REALLY nutso.

If they think this kind of crap is going to stop me, they're dreaming.

174 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:29:46pm

I'm still listening to Thomas Merton's autobiography. Some good observations and history, but so-far, I think he is a crack-pot.

I may change my mind by the end.

175 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:29:54pm

Sometimes reading Medal of Honor certifications is just terrifying.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

176 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:30:51pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

Tweetdeck for iPhone doesn't have the global filter feature, so when I was just trying it out I got to see some of the tweets from the wingnuts I've blocked. Wow. Looks like the stalkers now have at least a dozen sock puppet accounts on Twitter, for no purpose except to harass me and everyone I interact with, and they're really, REALLY nutso.

If they think this kind of crap is going to stop me, they're dreaming.

How does it feel being so irrelevant they've devoted so much time, effort and resources to make sure you know you're irrelevant?

177 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:30:53pm

re: #170 Kragar

Florida governor appoints new prosecutor in Trayvon Martin case

Well, Scott just took himself further out of the running for the VP slot.

178 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:31:04pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

Bless their hearts.

179 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:31:11pm

OK, I am back. WTF is up with you Women. I buy my Wife one of these.

I also bought her a Helmet, no complaints. But I also bought her knee and elbow pads. Can you say "Nuclear Fusion? Her response was I don't use them so why should I. Ummmmm, because you are going to dump the thing and get hurt, Just like I did. Ladies?

180 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:31:31pm

re: #175 Obdicut

Sometimes reading Medal of Honor certifications is just terrifying.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I've listened to a lot of the Priztker Military Library's Medal of Honor podcasts and am really, really glad I've never been in a combat situation.

181 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:32:30pm

re: #175 Obdicut

Sometimes reading Medal of Honor certifications is just terrifying.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Shielded another soldier from a grenade with his body? Didn't he realize anything other than killing the enemy feminizes the award?
/

Fuck you Fischer.

182 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:32:33pm

And of course, they're still obsessively watching every comment posted here, because what better way to illustrate how irrelevant I am than to stalk me 24/7 for years and years?

183 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:33:42pm

re: #181 Kragar

The dude did everything but pick up an enemy soldier and use that guy to kill other enemy soldiers.

184 labman57  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:33:45pm

What part of "medical privacy" don't these self-righteous theocrats understand?

185 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:33:56pm

re: #182 Charles Johnson

And of course, they're still obsessively watching every comment posted here, because what better way to illustrate how irrelevant I am than to stalk me 24/7 for years and years?

They have a plan...

The Horribly Slow Murderer with the Extremely Inefficient Weapon

Youtube Video
186 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:34:10pm

re: #179 Bubblehead II

OK, I am back. WTF is up with you Women. I buy my Wife one of these.

I also bought her a Helmet, no complaints. But I also bought her knee and elbow pads. Can you say "Nuclear Fusion? Her response was I don't use them so why should I. Ummm, because you are going to dump the thing and get hurt, Just like I did. Ladies?

Safety gear is a rather personal purchase.

187 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:34:42pm

re: #181 Kragar

Shielded another soldier from a grenade with his body? Didn't he realize anything other than killing the enemy feminizes the award?
/

Fuck you Fischer.

The only thing Fischer knows about bravery is that he has none. He's a coward.

188 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:34:45pm

re: #163 Lidane

Now that The Walking Dead is done until the fall, I don't have much of anything to watch anymore. Psych is winding down, and both Burn Notice and Leverage are done until whenever, so my TV watching is limited at best.

It's just as well. I just started my final project for grad school so that's going to take my attention until May. Maybe by then that Netflix series that Eli Roth is working on will be out. That might be interesting.

MAD FUCKING MEN.

But I relate to the cultural times. I was Sally.

189 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:35:58pm

re: #184 labman57

What part of "medical privacy" don't these self-righteous theocrats understand?

The part where it applies to women.

190 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:36:15pm

re: #183 Obdicut

The dude did everything but pick up an enemy soldier and use that guy to kill other enemy soldiers.

Desmond Doss

Desmond Thomas Doss (February 7, 1919 – March 23, 2006) was the first conscientious objector to receive the Medal of Honor and one of only three so honored (the others are Thomas W. Bennett and Joseph G. LaPointe, Jr.). He was a Corporal (Private First Class at the time of his Medal of Honor heroics) in the U.S. Army assigned to the Medical Detachment, 307th Infantry, 77th Infantry Division. He died the same day as another Medal of Honor recipient, David Bleak.

Drafted in April 1942,[1] Desmond Doss refused to kill, or carry a weapon into combat, because of his personal beliefs as a Seventh-day Adventist. He thus became a medic, and by serving in the Pacific theatre of World War II helped his country by saving the lives of his comrades, while also adhering to his religious convictions. Shortly before leaving the Army, Desmond was diagnosed with tuberculosis.[2]

His Medal of Honor was earned by the risks he took to save the lives of so many comrades.

191 Interesting Times  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:37:28pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

Now up to 44 hits from that Breitbart.com link.

Wow. Their traffic really must be tanking. That's pitiful.

Just for the sake of argument, I assume you're comparing this to a baseline of average traffic from the pre-redesign breitbart site? Otherwise it might just mean they (in true echo-chamber style) hardly ever follow links to non-wingnut sites.

192 EdDantes  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:37:36pm

I don't think right wingers (like me) care about the names of abortion providers. But why provide the nuts with targets?

193 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:37:51pm

re: #190 Kragar

Desmond Doss

Saving lives? What he didn't hack the dirty Japs to death with a machette? His MoH is feminized.//

194 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:38:11pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

Tweetdeck for iPhone doesn't have the global filter feature, so when I was just trying it out I got to see some of the tweets from the wingnuts I've blocked. Wow. Looks like the stalkers now have at least a dozen sock puppet accounts on Twitter, for no purpose except to harass me and everyone I interact with, and they're really, REALLY nutso.

If they think this kind of crap is going to stop me, they're dreaming.

They should, oh I don't know, watch TV or something.

195 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:39:01pm

re: #181 Kragar

Shielded another soldier from a grenade with his body? Didn't he realize anything other than killing the enemy feminizes the award?
/

Fuck you Fischer.

I learned about one or two other medics who received the Medal of Honor. Of course, I can't remember the specifics.

Unbelievable --oh I think the actions of one was used to create the Forest Gump character's actions . . .

This guy, Sammy L Davis.

When they are interviewed, these guys are always say they weren't brave, they were just doing what needed to be done and feel they don't deserve the award --their buddies that didn't make it home deserve it.

I cry during almost every podcast.

196 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:39:03pm

It should be clear to anyone that this is an attempt to intimidate anyone who gets or performs an abortion.

197 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:40:08pm

re: #174 ggt

I'm still listening to Thomas Merton's autobiography. Some good observations and history, but so-far, I think he is a crack-pot.

I may change my mind by the end.

Spoiler Alert--He liked beer and cheeseburgers. And Joan Baez.

198 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:40:38pm

Like I said on one of the Pages Posts comment sections. If they think every woman who wants an abortion should watch a video of an abortion, I think every man who wants to have sex with a women should watch a video of a birth.

199 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:41:11pm

re: #191 Interesting Times

Just for the sake of argument, I assume you're comparing this to a baseline of average traffic from the pre-redesign breitbart site? Otherwise it might just mean they (in true echo-chamber style) hardly ever follow links to non-wingnut sites.

The pre-redesign site never linked to LGF so I can't check that. But if their traffic is "terrific" as O'Connor claimed, there really should be a lot more visits than this, even allowing for the wingnut echo chamber effect.

200 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:43:31pm

re: #183 Obdicut

The dude did everything but pick up an enemy soldier and use that guy to kill other enemy soldiers.

We call that move the Double McBain.

201 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:43:34pm

re: #153 ggt

Wasn't that a Michael Caine movie?

Peter Sellers!

Being There

202 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:44:33pm

re: #186 ggt

Safety gear is a rather personal purchase.

But She is also my Wife. Do I not have a vested interest in insuring Her Safety?

203 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:46:15pm

re: #197 Decatur Deb

Spoiler Alert--He liked beer and cheeseburgers. And Joan Baez.

Well, he certainly had a rather horrible childhood (IMHO). He doesn't seem to allow for the dysfunction of his childhood in his thought process or belief structure.

As if his experiences were universal.

204 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:46:27pm

re: #199 Charles Johnson

I just found a hilarious comment over there about the redesign:

This is the first that I heard of Charles Johnson, but to tell you the truth Larry, as soon as you folks tossed out Intense Debate - a real man's commentary, I left along with many good conservative folks that I know. Choosing discus over Intense Debate is kind of like choosing some smarmy metrosexual who drives a prius with limp wrists on the east coast over the rugged individualist who explores the western frontier on horseback.

A) Apparently we have a western frontier again! I'm going to go stake me a claim.

B) That guy is really rather explicit about the kind of man he prefers.

205 EdDantes  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:47:15pm

What is this I hear on commercials about,"reptile dysfunction." Why do I need cialis, levitra or viagra? I don't even have a reptile. Geez.

206 jvic  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:47:38pm

re: #23 mattand

My kingdom for a conservative who will just call this for what it is: religious-based misogyny.

This is religion-based misogyny.

207 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:47:45pm

re: #204 Obdicut

I just found a hilarious comment over there about the redesign:

A) Apparently we have a western frontier again! I'm going to go stake me a claim.

B) That guy is really rather explicit about the kind of man he prefers.

He rides bikes too -- the kind that don't use gasoline!

208 jaunte  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:48:01pm
209 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:48:29pm

re: #179 Bubblehead II

OK, I am back. WTF is up with you Women. I buy my Wife one of these.

I also bought her a Helmet, no complaints. But I also bought her knee and elbow pads. Can you say "Nuclear Fusion? Her response was I don't use them so why should I. Ummm, because you are going to dump the thing and get hurt, Just like I did. Ladies?

Looks like a fun time.

210 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:49:58pm

re: #202 Bubblehead II

But She is also my Wife. Do I not have a vested interest in insuring Her Safety?

Well, you give her the money or a gift certificate and let her pick-out what she wants, safety gear or not.

211 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:53:01pm

More good history.

This author gave a great talk and was absolutely wonderful to meet.

212 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:54:01pm
Wielding a gun increases a person’s bias to see guns in the hands of others, new research from the University of Notre Dame shows.

Explains why I keep erroneously thinking people are walking around with penises in their hands.

/wait, did I just say that out loud?

213 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:54:16pm

re: #204 Obdicut

I just found a hilarious comment over there about the redesign:

A) Apparently we have a western frontier again! I'm going to go stake me a claim.

B) That guy is really rather explicit about the kind of man he prefers.

I almost wrote a post today about the comments for that ridiculous article, because almost all of the Breitbart.com audience hates the redesign. Many of them are complaining that there are a lot fewer commenters, too.

I wonder how long it will take the not-so-Breitbarts to totally run the site into the ground.

Also... I realized another huge reason why their traffic has plunged so dramatically. Breitbart did a smart thing by having news feeds from wire services at Breitbart.com, because Drudge Report constantly linked to their articles. That had to be good for millions of hits every month, literally -- Drudge generates an enormous amount of traffic.

The brats threw it all away when they got rid of the news feeds.

214 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:54:56pm

re: #204 Obdicut

I just found a hilarious comment over there about the redesign:

A) Apparently we have a western frontier again! I'm going to go stake me a claim.

B) That guy is really rather explicit about the kind of man he prefers.

ROFL. He likes it Brokeback.

215 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:55:06pm

re: #213 Charles Johnson

I almost wrote a post today about the comments for that ridiculous article, because almost all of the Breitbart.com audience hates the redesign. Many of them are complaining that there are a lot fewer commenters, too.

I wonder how long it will take the not-so-Breitbarts to totally run the site into the ground.

Also... I realized another huge reason why their traffic has plunged so dramatically. Breitbart did a smart thing by having news feeds from wire services at Breitbart.com, because Drudge Report constantly linked to their articles. That had to be good for millions of hits every month, literally -- Drudge generates an enormous amount of traffic.

The brats threw it all away when they got rid of the news feeds.

Why give them the time of day, much less space on your blog?

216 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:56:35pm

re: #215 ggt

Why give them the time of day, much less space on your blog?

Meaning, of course, I don't think they are worth it.

It's your blog, I am not trying to tell you what to do or post.

I hope you know that.

217 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:58:10pm

re: #216 ggt

No worries.

218 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:58:13pm

re: #214 Liberal Entity

ROFL. He likes it Brokeback.

I really am interested in where our new Western Frontier is. Are we just opening up the Indian Reservations to conquest again, or are we headed into Kamchatka?

219 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:58:51pm

re: #218 Obdicut

I really am interested in where our new Western Frontier is. Are we just opening up the Indian Reservations to conquest again, or are we headed into Kamchatka?

Outer Space?

220 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:00:50pm

re: #219 ggt

Outer Space?

That's to the west? And we've been wasting all this money going up, instead.

221 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:01:03pm

re: #219 ggt

Outer Space?

I claimed that centuries ago.

222 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:01:11pm

re: #218 Obdicut

I really am interested in where our new Western Frontier is.

A bunch of Super Wal-Marts have closed their doors out in California, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, and Arizona. Nobody knows what lies within those giant, empty buildings. There could be gold in them thar aisles.
///

223 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:02:27pm

By the way, Rachel Maddow's publisher has sent me two copies of her new book, both signed. One for me to read, and one to give away at LGF; now I have to come up with a good contest or something to choose who gets the book.

I just started reading it today -- looks great so far.

(It's terrible to be so irrelevant.)

224 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:02:38pm

re: #220 Obdicut

That's to the west? And we've been wasting all this money going up, instead.

This seems fitting on a couple of levels.

Youtube Video
225 Four More Tears  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:02:58pm

re: #222 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

A bunch of Super Wal-Marts have closed their doors out in California, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, and Arizona. Nobody knows what lies within those giant, empty buildings. There could be gold in them thar aisles.
///

Sounds like it could be New Vegas DLC...

226 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:03:02pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

Fucking Thunderdome. YES!!!

227 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:03:25pm

Also: Amount of Western Frontier explored by rugged individuals on horseback: Low.

Amount of Western Frontier explored by teams of people working together for a common cause: very high.

Lewis and Clark: Badass socialists.

228 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:03:46pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

Congrats!

229 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:04:46pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

Very cool.

230 Amory Blaine  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:05:15pm

Could it be a hot dog eating contest?

231 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:05:25pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

There's been some awesome pages recently, especially the ones tracking the bills on abortion, contraceptives, etc. I'd love to see the people who are far less lazy than I and contribute quality pages day after day get something.

But there's too many of them for just one book, of course.

232 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:05:43pm

re: #226 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Fucking Thunderdome. YES!!!

I'll get my lightsaber!
And some thermal dets.
And a flechette gun.
And...

233 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:05:50pm

Shoggoth races?

234 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:06:47pm

"and this community is an insult to the world!"

235 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:07:22pm

re: #232 Varek Raith

I'll get my lightsaber!
And some thermal dets.
And a flechette gun.
And...

"Jayne, how many weapons you plan on bringing? You only got the two arms."

236 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:08:12pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

Hope she also invites you on the program ;)

237 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:08:45pm

re: #222 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

A bunch of Super Wal-Marts have closed their doors out in California, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, and Arizona. Nobody knows what lies within those giant, empty buildings. There could be gold in them thar aisles.
///

Nah...they sold it all on the Shopping Network. Then took it to those Cash 4 Gold places.

238 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:09:36pm

re: #220 Obdicut

That's to the west? And we've been wasting all this money going up, instead.

To the West is where the Elves go (and a couple of Hobbits).

:0

239 Interesting Times  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:10:23pm

re: #231 Obdicut

There's been some awesome pages recently, especially the ones tracking the bills on abortion, contraceptives, etc. I'd love to see the people who are far less lazy than I and contribute quality pages day after day get something.

Yes, I was also thinking the contest should be somehow based on Pages, though I'm not sure what metric to use ("Most Viewed" isn't necessarily the best, since it can depend on factors having nothing to do with a Page's quality)

240 Lidane  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:10:33pm

re: #226 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Fucking Thunderdome. YES!!!

Youtube Video
241 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:11:34pm

re: #218 Obdicut

I really am interested in where our new Western Frontier is. Are we just opening up the Indian Reservations to conquest again, or are we headed into Kamchatka?

THE OCEAN.
They can fight the Kracken.

242 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:12:21pm

re: #239 Interesting Times

Yes, I was also thinking the contest should be somehow based on Pages, though I'm not sure what metric to use ("Most Viewed" isn't necessarily the best, since it can depend on factors having nothing to do with a Page's quality)

Wouldn't Curious Lurker be the hands-down winner?

243 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:13:09pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

By the way, Rachel Maddow's publisher has sent me two copies of her new book, both signed. One for me to read, and one to give away at LGF; now I have to come up with a good contest or something to choose who gets the book.

I just started reading it today -- looks great so far.

(It's terrible to be so irrelevant.)

Most awesome anti-OWS post contest!
/

244 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:13:39pm

re: #243 Killgore Trout

Most awesome anti-OWS post contest!
/

Dude.

245 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:14:14pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

Dude.

Too much?

246 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:15:02pm

Ok, jeepers. Just being silly.

247 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:15:28pm

re: #245 Killgore Trout

Too much?

Heh. No, I'm just happy to see you haven't totally lost your sense of humor.

248 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:15:33pm

re: #246 Killgore Trout

Ok, jeepers. Just being silly.

Check the dings on that comment.

249 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:16:39pm

re: #248 Liberal Entity

Check the dings on that comment.

Ok, I can't tell these days. It's all very confusing to me.

250 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:17:10pm

I know... wet t-shirt contest!

251 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:17:38pm

The parrot on my shoulder makes it hard for me to type, His name is Chip.

252 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:17:45pm

re: #249 Killgore Trout

Ok, I can't tell these days. It's all very confusing to me.

That must be the Zappa av. Yeah, that's it.

253 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:18:02pm

karaoke contest?

254 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:18:26pm

I'd suggest Tri-Tip cook off contest, but then I'd have to recuse myself based on my awesome skills on the grill.

255 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:18:34pm

re: #251 Killgore Trout

The parrot on my shoulder makes it hard for me to type, His name in Chip.

Let the parrot type sometimes!

256 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:19:05pm

100

257 Kragar  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:19:08pm

Most Monty Python Comments on record...

258 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:19:17pm

Geek trivia contest!

//

259 BongCrodny  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:19:21pm

re: #243 Killgore Trout

Most awesome anti-OWS post contest!
/

Can't say I'm a fan of the +/- ∞ OWS posts, but funny is funny.

260 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:19:23pm

re: #243 Killgore Trout

Most awesome anti-OWS post contest!
/

GEEZE. I'm gonna take your joke seriously, KT, it is so so so not about you.

261 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:19:34pm

re: #257 Kragar

You're trying to cheat.

262 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:19:42pm

re: #255 Liberal Entity

Let the parrot type sometimes!

He shits and squawks. No sign of typing skills.

263 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:19:44pm

re: #257 Kragar

Most Monty Python Comments on record...

What...is your name?

264 aagcobb  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:19:54pm

re: #257 Kragar

Most Monty Python Comments on record...

Say no more!

265 BongCrodny  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:20:29pm

Best use of "derp."

266 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:20:36pm

I really like the idea of something based on Pages. Maybe the most-tweeted Page for the past month?

267 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:20:46pm

Best pun.

268 blueraven  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:21:13pm

worst pun

269 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:21:17pm

re: #243 Killgore Trout

Most awesome anti-OWS post contest!
/

*Adds pepper spray to long list of armaments*
Let's get this Thunderdome started!!!

270 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:21:54pm

re: #268 blueraven

worst pun

Hey, not fair to the others! ///

271 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:21:57pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

Won't the assholes just fuck that up by spamming the direct link, to make some random-ass page win?

272 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:22:01pm

re: #267 Liberal Entity

Best pun.

NO!

273 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:22:16pm

re: #267 Liberal Entity

Best pun.

re: #268 blueraven

worst pun

Worst pun at the best time.
Best pun at the worst time.

274 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:22:35pm

Charles,

I am so jealous you are on a publisher's list.

275 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:22:44pm

re: #269 Varek Raith

*Adds pepper spray to long list of armaments*
Let's get this Thunderdome started!!!

I am so tired of this October, or was it December? Bullshit invading this blog, cause the instigator is well thought of. Yeah right.

276 blueraven  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:23:09pm

re: #273 Varek Raith

re: #268 blueraven

Worst pun at the best time.
Best pun at the worst time.

It was the worst of puns, it was the best...

277 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:23:15pm

re: #272 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

NO!

I used to like puns. Then I took an arrow in the knee.

278 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:23:29pm

re: #271 Obdicut

Nope, that avenue of attack has been closed.

279 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:23:50pm

re: #277 Varek Raith

I used to like puns. Then I took an arrow in the knee.

Electric chair is too mild.

280 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:24:26pm

re: #277 Varek Raith

I used to like puns. Then I took an arrow in the knee.

Pffft!

281 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:24:43pm

re: #269 Varek Raith

*Adds pepper spray to long list of armaments*
Let's get this Thunderdome started!!!

Bah, an honorable warrior fights with blades alone!

/

282 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:25:13pm

The irony is that a while back some one published the list of CCW in a certain community saying that the Public had a Right to Know.

The same people who were most against this are the same type of people to publish a list of abortion doctors.

Irony, or hypocrisy?

Our Friend, George Orwell nailed it.

283 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:25:34pm

re: #280 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Pffft!

Sneak attack!

Youtube Video
284 Achilles Tang  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:25:48pm

re: #253 HappyWarrior

karaoke contest?

Puns?

285 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:25:55pm

re: #260 Hoodies for Justice. T

GEEZE. I'm gonna take your joke seriously, KT, it is so so so not about you.

I'd wish you a happy day of painting but that might be problematic.

286 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:26:00pm

re: #281 Targetpractice

Bah, an honorable warrior fights with blades alone!

/

True.
*Fires phaser*

287 BongCrodny  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:26:00pm

Best post numbered 285.

288 BongCrodny  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:26:11pm

Dammit!

289 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:26:18pm

30,000 people demonstrating in Florida. This is huge. And another demonstration planned for Monday.

290 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:26:20pm

The most charitable donation to LGF! ///

291 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:27:03pm

re: #282 ggt

I think both ideas are stupid and dangerous. I guess that makes me a moderate.

292 Achilles Tang  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:28:18pm

re: #290 Liberal Entity

The most charitable donation to LGF! ///

Most charitable or biggest??

293 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:28:29pm

re: #289 Charles Johnson

30,000 people demonstrating in Florida. This is huge. And another demonstration planned for Monday.

Nobody cared about it all until the race-baiters got onboard! Tawana Brawley 2.0!

294 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:28:33pm

re: #285 Killgore Trout

I'd wish you a happy day of painting but that might be problematic.

It's been a good number of years since I did any kind of painting. I kinda miss it.

295 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:28:42pm

So, I would be a NPC?

296 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:29:56pm

re: #292 Blue Spot Vlamingii Tang

Most charitable or biggest??

Same?

297 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:29:58pm

re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

I think both ideas are stupid and dangerous. I guess that makes me a moderate.

You just might be a sane, rational human.

maybe not

/

298 Achilles Tang  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:30:33pm

re: #296 Liberal Entity

Same?

You need to think more deviously.

299 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:30:37pm

One of the coolest sights I always enjoy on the road trip to Toronto, is the the huge wind forest along the 401 highway outside Windsor.

These wind turbines are freakin HUGE and some of them are right up at the edge of the highway.

Also, the Canadian Ministry of the Environment is in the process of rebuilding all the rest areas along the highway with new sustainable "EnRoute" stations, very futuristic. They even have a case full of Kosher and Halal snacks, as well as all the usual Tim Horton's!

300 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:30:59pm

re: #294 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

It's been a good number of years since I did any kind of painting. I kinda miss it.

me too!

stupid hands --I don't like getting old.

301 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:31:43pm

Night Lizards.. May The Deity Of Your Choice Smile Down Upon You.

This time for real

302 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:31:56pm

re: #300 ggt

me too!

stupid hands --I don't like getting old.

Get one of these.

303 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:32:05pm

re: #298 Blue Spot Vlamingii Tang

You need to think more deviously.

The largest amount of racist comments we plant on right-wing sites? //devious enough?

304 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:32:23pm

re: #300 ggt

Awww. Now I haz a sad. :(

305 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:32:33pm

re: #302 Varek Raith

Get one of these.

But then there will probably be new soft-ware I'd have to learn.

Did I tell you I was old?

306 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:32:49pm

re: #294 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

It's been a good number of years since I did any kind of painting. I kinda miss it.

When I was a teen my mother was insane about forbidding painting, some nonsense about carpets and such. I was an artistic douche of a kid. Now she travels the world taking water colors classes. All's well that ends well.

307 BongCrodny  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:34:35pm

Maddow's new book is about the military; how about some sort of auction with proceeds to go to the USO or a service support organization?

308 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:34:44pm

re: #306 Killgore Trout

When I was a teen my mother was insane about forbidding painting, some nonsense about carpets and such. I was an artistic douche of a kid. Now she travels the world taking water colors classes. All's well that ends well.

I never let my kids have Play-Doh, some nonsense about carpets and such. So they got Play-Doh sets for all their kids. Well it's THEIR carpets, let THEM vaccuum out the crumbs.

309 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:34:47pm

re: #306 Killgore Trout

When I was a teen my mother was insane about forbidding painting, some nonsense about carpets and such. I was an artistic douche of a kid. Now she travels the world taking water colors classes. All's well that ends well.

I never understood women who put their house before their children's education and developement.

Hell, I painted the walls in my kid's room white and gave him paint markers. WTF --it would have to be repainted eventually and KILZ isn't that expensive.

310 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:35:27pm

re: #302 Varek Raith

Get one of these.

No one wants to look like a stupid Mech-Aug like that damn Gunther Hermann. I'm holding out for the nanites.

311 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:35:53pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

I really like the idea of something based on Pages. Maybe the most-tweeted Page for the past month?

How interesting is the most commented Page in the last month or week?
I must be a bit blog tone deaf, I can never guess what will get a lot of retweets. But we can see why it might have the most comments.

312 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:36:11pm

If Obama's For The Cushing Pipeline, Fox Is Against It
This is rich.

313 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:36:18pm

re: #310 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

No one wants to look like a stupid Mech-Aug like that damn Gunther Hermann. I'm holding out for the nanites.

By the time the technology is workable and affordable I probably won't know my own name.

I guess that doesn't mean I couldn't paint tho.

314 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:36:24pm

Ah yes I remember when I got new carpet in my entire house. I let my daughter pick out the carpet for her room: light pink.

Then her toddler sister found the nail polish and hysteria ensued.

315 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:36:37pm
Fox News chairman and CEO Roger Ailes is full of surprises these days. The latest: he’s encouraging people to read the new book by one of his ideological opposites: MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow.

Politico’s Dylan Byers reports Ailes has written a book blurb supporting “Drift: The Unmooring of American Military Power,” which comes out later this month.

People who like Rachel will love the book. People who don’t will get angry, but aggressive debate is good for America. Drift is a book worth reading.

[Link: www.mediabistro.com...]

316 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:37:50pm

re: #311 Daniel Ballard

How interesting is the most commented Page in the last month or week?
I must be a bit blog tone deaf, I can never guess what will get a lot of retweets. But we can see why it might have the most comments.

No, it'd probably just be some embarrassing bicker involving me.

317 Achilles Tang  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:37:58pm

re: #169 Lidane

This is next on my list after I finish school. Also, this. When I was growing up, my (now ex) stepdad worked at NASA, so this sort of stuff has always interested me.

You might like this also.

318 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:38:26pm

I also got washable crayons and my kid drew on the kitchen floor as soon as he was old enough to hold the toddler sized crayons.

Play-doh --he never really go into. But, when we played with it it was also on the kitchen floor.

Dogs probably ate any leftovers I didn't clean-up.

319 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:38:30pm

re: #306 Killgore Trout

I was a teen during the Satanic Panic of the 80's, and my mom didn't want me listening to any metal. Now Aerosmith is her favorite band. I even took her to the KISS/Aerosmith concert a handful of years ago.

320 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:39:28pm

re: #309 ggt

You. Are. Awesome.

321 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:41:01pm

re: #312 Varek Raith

If Obama's For The Cushing Pipeline, Fox Is Against It
This is rich.

Not surprising, the Right's been pushing the pipeline for months now under the whole "We need Canadian oil!" Except we don't, we've got plenty of it already and the pipes that already bring it across do not have a stellar track record where leak prevention is concerned.

322 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:41:13pm

re: #309 ggt

In college, I painted my room black and then slept in the walk-in closet because an all-black room is really depressing.

Later, I got a room that was in the center of a building, and had no windows, and when the door was shut, was perfectly black and filled with white noise. I put my bed in the exact middle of the room. It was awesome in a very weird sensory-dep kind of way.

323 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:41:16pm

re: #319 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

I was a teen during the Satanic Panic of the 80's, and my mom didn't want me listening to any metal. Now Aerosmith is her favorite band. I even took her to the KISS/Aerosmith concert a handful of years ago.

I met one mom so fanatical about the sexualization of girls that she wouldn't let her daughter wear make-up during a ballet recital on stage.

Really? I was suprised she let her wear the little ballet outfit where everyone could see her.

These whacko christians are not far from covering their little girls in bags and saying they aren't hijabs (not hijabs --what is the right word?)

324 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:41:25pm

re: #312 Varek Raith

If Obama's For The Cushing Pipeline, Fox Is Against It
This is rich.

No, this is Fox.

325 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:42:06pm

re: #322 Obdicut

In college, I painted my room black and then slept in the walk-in closet because an all-black room is really depressing.

Later, I got a room that was in the center of a building, and had no windows, and when the door was shut, was perfectly black and filled with white noise. I put my bed in the exact middle of the room. It was awesome in a very weird sensory-dep kind of way.

THAT SOUNDS AWESOME

326 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:42:20pm

re: #320 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

You. Are. Awesome.

aw shucks.

for the record, it took 3 coats of KILZ.

327 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:42:28pm

re: #323 ggt

Niqabs?

328 Digital Display  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:42:53pm

re: #316 Obdicut

No, it'd probably just be some embarrassing bicker involving me.

Brightlights, opinion, Art, love and Music..

You know Obdi...If you are going to be the most hated person the Internet you're going to have to try so much harder..
/

329 Achilles Tang  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:42:56pm

re: #322 Obdicut

In college, I painted my room black and then slept in the walk-in closet because an all-black room is really depressing.

Later, I got a room that was in the center of a building, and had no windows, and when the door was shut, was perfectly black and filled with white noise. I put my bed in the exact middle of the room. It was awesome in a very weird sensory-dep kind of way.

What did the women have to say about that?

330 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:43:07pm

re: #322 Obdicut

In college, I painted my room black and then slept in the walk-in closet because an all-black room is really depressing.

Later, I got a room that was in the center of a building, and had no windows, and when the door was shut, was perfectly black and filled with white noise. I put my bed in the exact middle of the room. It was awesome in a very weird sensory-dep kind of way.

Though I probably wouldn't paint a room black, more dark magenta/red and then zany EL/fairy lighting (which I sorta have now minus the painted walls)

331 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:43:55pm

re: #330 windupbird is in the gravity well

Though I probably wouldn't paint a room black, more dark magenta/red and then zany EL/fairy lighting (which I sorta have now minus the painted walls)

Naw, I would have used some sort of phosphorescent undercoat and sponged dark colors over it.

Wouldn't that be cool --may have to try it in a bathroom.

332 jaunte  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:44:01pm


Here's a case where the usual suspects will go all wobbly on states' rights.

333 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:44:15pm

re: #322 Obdicut

In college, I painted my room black and then slept in the walk-in closet because an all-black room is really depressing.

Later, I got a room that was in the center of a building, and had no windows, and when the door was shut, was perfectly black and filled with white noise. I put my bed in the exact middle of the room. It was awesome in a very weird sensory-dep kind of way.

The Black Houses of Olympia, Washington

these are real, a friend of mine attended a live art event at one

334 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:44:42pm

re: #331 ggt

Naw, I would have used some sort of phosphorescent undercoat and sponged dark colors over it.

Wouldn't that be cool --may have to try it in a bathroom.

Black lights!

I need more black lights

335 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:45:30pm

re: #334 windupbird is in the gravity well

Black lights!

I need more black lights

I love the interplay of light and color (energy and pigment)

I play with it alot.

336 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:45:32pm

re: #330 windupbird is in the gravity well

I knew a guy who painted the walls of his room a deep red, the ceiling a rich desert tan, and did the trim in gold. Sounds weird, but it gave the room sort of a far east, royal look. It was bad ass.

337 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:45:54pm

re: #334 windupbird is in the gravity well

Black lights!

I need more black lights

Write the ten commandments with black lights on white lights.

338 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:45:59pm

re: #331 ggt

Naw, I would have used some sort of phosphorescent undercoat and sponged dark colors over it.

Wouldn't that be cool --may have to try it in a bathroom.

a friend of mine paints in acrylics using Uv paint, cuts it with normal paint so the Uv glow intensity can be controlled for purposes of defining value

so you turn on the black light and it's an acrylic painting that glows as if it's a TV screen

339 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:46:22pm

re: #336 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

I knew a guy who painted the walls of his room a deep red, the ceiling a rich desert tan, and did the trim in gold. Sounds weird, but it gave the room sort of a far east, royal look. It was bad ass.

I believe it, awesome

340 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:46:28pm

Pfffttt, blue-gray is the way to go.

341 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:46:28pm

re: #336 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

I knew a guy who painted the walls of his room a deep red, the ceiling a rich desert tan, and did the trim in gold. Sounds weird, but it gave the room sort of a far east, royal look. It was bad ass.

I put aluminum foil up to mimic mirrors which I couldn't afford.

The room was so small, I wanted to create the illusion of space and it worked.

roommy loved it.

342 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:47:10pm

re: #341 ggt

I put aluminum foil up to mimic mirrors which I couldn't afford.

The room was so small, I wanted to create the illusion of space and it worked.

roommy loved it.

Nice way to block the mind control rays too.

343 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:47:30pm

re: #340 Varek Raith

Pfffttt, blue-gray is the way to go.

with mirrors,

good for claustrophobics. Calms them down.

344 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:47:43pm

re: #325 windupbird is in the gravity well

THAT SOUNDS AWESOME

The only bad part was it was so disorienting that when I woke up in the morning I had no idea which way the door was and had to feel around for it, but it was kind of like rebirth.

Unfortunately, it was normally rebirth into my douchey hippie flatmates having a passive-aggressive snipe-fest at each other about which of them upheld the principles of nonconfrontation best.

It was here:

[Link: maps.google.com...]

345 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:47:49pm

re: #342 Varek Raith

Nice way to block the mind control rays too.

aluminum?

they weren't gold foil lined.

346 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:48:01pm

re: #340 Varek Raith

Pfffttt, blue-gray is the way to go.

Obliterator concurs

347 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:48:51pm

re: #345 ggt

aluminum?

they weren't gold foil lined.

That's a trick. As gold amplifies the ray.
Tricksy FEMA is tricksy.

348 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:49:04pm

You can do cool things to create the illusion of space with flat and glossy paint as well.

349 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:50:18pm

Total Montessori Mom, yes that is me.

350 Digital Display  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:50:33pm

re: #343 ggt

with mirrors,

good for claustrophobics. Calms them down.

In college the thing was mirrors..every where, on the closet doors..on the ceiling, the bathroom..:)

351 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:51:12pm

I did bust out my lute after our earlier discussion. Still in fine shape and almost partially in tune after a couple years in the case. It's an 8 course renaissance lute, not one of those 12 course baroque monsters. I can still fumble through French tablature with passable derpiness. Like riding a bike. The greenhouse with glass walls and brick floor has nice acoustics, the cats are unimpressed.

352 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:52:12pm

re: #344 Obdicut

Unfortunately, it was normally rebirth into my douchey hippie flatmates having a passive-aggressive snipe-fest at each other about which of them upheld the principles of nonconfrontation best.

That's where Hunter S. Thompson steps in and bloodies a nose.

353 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:52:16pm

re: #329 Blue Spot Vlamingii Tang

What did the women have to say about that?

I don't recall ever inviting a woman back there, I tended to go to their places instead. And I was hanging out at MIT so I spent a lot of time over at Fifth East, speaking of places painted black:

[Link: web.mit.edu...]

This is my friend Jimmy there, on the Green Spool of Death. Jimmy is crazy now and lives in the middle of the desert in Texas, but I still hope one day he'll stride out of it with a earth-shattering philosophy or at least a new programming language.

Image: OneOnSpool.jpg

354 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:52:20pm

re: #351 Killgore Trout

I did bust out my lute after our earlier discussion. Still in fine shape and almost partially in tune after a couple years in the case. It's an 8 course renaissance lute, not one of those 12 course baroque monsters. I can still fumble through French tablature with passable derpiness. Like riding a bike. The greenhouse with glass walls and brick floor has nice acoustics, the cats are unimpressed.

Always worry if a cat is impressed.

355 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:53:39pm

re: #319 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

I was a teen during the Satanic Panic of the 80's, and my mom didn't want me listening to any metal. Now Aerosmith is her favorite band. I even took her to the KISS/Aerosmith concert a handful of years ago.

My mom, god bless her, took me to my first concert at the age of 15. Zappa somewhere in DC. Lots of pot smoke, sex dolls being bounced around. Not really her scene but she put up with it.

356 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:56:05pm

WTH.
ACLU: Facebook password isn't your boss' business

357 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:56:24pm

re: #351 Killgore Trout

The greenhouse with glass walls and brick floor has nice acoustics, the cats are unimpressed.

Cats will always be unimpressed by anything they can't chase, eat, or poop on.

358 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:56:31pm

Hugh Hewitt is calling out loon Bryan Fischer? Inconceivable!

359 Achilles Tang  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:56:39pm

re: #353 Obdicut

The hair styles look strangely familiar.

360 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:57:16pm

re: #356 Varek Raith

WTH.
ACLU: Facebook password isn't your boss' business

Really, if your page isn't public, it isn't public.

361 EdDantes  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:57:17pm

re: #352 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

" We'll chase them like rats across the Tundra."
Hunter S. Thompson

362 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:57:25pm

Dumb All Over

Youtube Video
363 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:58:06pm

re: #358 Charles Johnson

Well, I remember in 2007 or 8 Hewitt wrote a whole book about how a Mormon can become a good president. So if that counts as moderation, Hewitt is not a flaming wingnut. A pretty low bar though.

364 Interesting Times  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:58:47pm

I don't believe this. Look what I just found hanging out on one of my windows:

O Hai

In Southern Ontario. In March.

Obviously a Soros plant trying to trick people into thinking climate change is real 9_9

365 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:58:47pm

re: #356 Varek Raith

WTH.
ACLU: Facebook password isn't your boss' business

"I always forget my FB password, so I tattooed it on my penis. Shall I just whip it out here?"

366 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 7:59:37pm

re: #364 Interesting Times

I don't believe this. Look what I just found hanging out on one of my windows:

O Hai

In Southern Ontario. In March.

Obviously a Soros plant trying to trick people into thinking climate change is real 9_9

Blame KT.
Damn frogger.

367 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:00:20pm

So far, (knock on wood), I haven't seen resident Patio Frog.

368 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:01:28pm

Oooh. That Ashley Judd show is on TV. She's hawt.

369 Digital Display  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:01:50pm

re: #355 Killgore Trout

My mom, god bless her, took me to my first concert at the age of 15. Zappa somewhere in DC. Lots of pot smoke, sex dolls being bounced around. Not really her scene but she put up with it.

My mom was a great musician and golfer.. She could play anything on a piano, Classics, Rock and Rock, Ballads..My love of music was deeply entrenched by hours of sitting next to her as she played songs...I miss her deeply

370 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:02:24pm

Don't like frogs? Heresy! May chytrid fungus consume your eyeballs.


:p

371 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:02:41pm

re: #351 Killgore Trout

How did you become a lutist, as well as a luthier?

372 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:02:56pm

I'm off to hopefully finish Thomas Merton.

Have a great evening all!

373 Gus  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:05:54pm

re: #358 Charles Johnson

Hugh Hewitt is calling out loon Bryan Fischer? Inconceivable!

Good to see. re: #371 Liberal Entity

How did you become a lutist, as well as a luthier?

He kept breaking his lute.

//

374 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:06:37pm

re: #373 Gus

Took 5 sec to ingest ;) ROFL.

375 Digital Display  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:06:50pm

re: #368 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Oooh. That Ashley Judd show is on TV. She's hawt.

Saw her at Indy 500 a few years ago.. She is not hot
She is smoking hot
And she loves racing fans...Trust me..They love her..She is so nice
oh..and smoking hot..

376 Gus  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:08:04pm

re: #368 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Oooh. That Ashley Judd show is on TV. She's hawt.

Didn't she call in to Click and Clack last weekend? I think she did.

377 Gus  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:10:35pm

Anyone hear from FBV? He doing alright?

378 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:11:05pm

A short guide for determining if you are in the middle of nowhere:

Does the road have more than two lanes? If yes then you are somewhere. Keep driving.

If no, then you may be nowhere. Start waving or nodding at people. If more than 50% return your wave/nod then you are really in the middle of nowhere.

If you wave or nod and at least 50% of the people pull a gun or knife then you are in a libertarian middle of nowhere, AKA aluminum mesa.

If you wave or nod and at least 50% of the people flip you off, welcome back to civilization.

Sigh. I'm definitely back in civilization.

379 Gus  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:11:43pm

Cake is a lie!

380 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:12:36pm

re: #378 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter

Welcome back!

381 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:12:55pm

re: #377 Gus

Saw him a day or two ago.

382 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:13:18pm

re: #372 ggt

I'm off to hopefully finish Thomas Merton.

Geez, what did he ever do to you?

383 Gus  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:13:27pm

re: #381 Obdicut

Saw him a day or two ago.

Ah, good.

384 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:13:29pm

re: #379 Gus

Cake is a lie!

A plutonium cake with strawberries is a real deal. Do not taunt the plutonium cake with strawberries.

385 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:13:50pm

re: #376 Gus

Refresh my memory... Click and Clack?

386 Gus  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:14:04pm

re: #384 Liberal Entity

A plutonium with cake with strawberries is a real deal. Do not taunt the plutonium cake with strawberries.

Just don't put Data on it.

387 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:14:54pm

re: #386 Gus

Star Trek?

388 Gus  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:14:57pm

re: #385 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Refresh my memory... Click and Clack?

The Tappet Brothers...

Dewey, Cheetham, and...

389 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:15:14pm

re: #380 Varek Raith


Welcome back!

Thanks.

390 sagehen  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:15:23pm

re: #322 Obdicut

In college, I painted my room black and then slept in the walk-in closet because an all-black room is really depressing.

Later, I got a room that was in the center of a building, and had no windows, and when the door was shut, was perfectly black and filled with white noise. I put my bed in the exact middle of the room. It was awesome in a very weird sensory-dep kind of way.

Did you put glow-in-the-dark star stickers on the ceiling?

391 Gus  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:15:30pm

Car Talk.

392 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:16:06pm

re: #385 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Refresh my memory... Click and Clack?

[Link: www.cartalk.com...]

393 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:16:28pm

Oldie but goodie ;)

394 Gus  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:16:36pm

Now I forgot what I used it for.

395 Gus  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:17:02pm

Whoa.

396 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:17:38pm

re: #395 Gus

Whoa.

Hi Keeanu.

397 Gus  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:18:18pm

re: #396 Varek Raith

Hi Keeanu.

I just saw the next topic.

398 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:18:39pm

re: #371 Liberal Entity

How did you become a lutist, as well as a luthier?

Long story short: I smoked too much pot and skipped too much high school to become a productive member of society. Conservatory education was my only option.

399 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:18:43pm

(I love that comments now come pre-deleted.)

////

400 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:19:12pm

re: #398 Killgore Trout

Oh, you were an OWS guy! ///

401 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:20:36pm

re: #400 Liberal Entity

Oh, you were an OWS guy! ///

Moonbats are an occupational hazard.

402 Digital Display  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:20:48pm

re: #390 sagehen

Did you put glow-in-the-dark star stickers on the ceiling?

My first 2 years of College I lived at home going to Napa JUCO..It really wasn't too much fun till I went to State....

403 Gus  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:21:39pm

re: #400 Liberal Entity

Oh, you were an OWS guy! ///

Officer Wandidate School?

//

404 Gus  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:21:53pm

I'm hunting wabbits.

405 Gus  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:25:32pm

re: #401 Killgore Trout

Moonbats are an occupational hazard.

Port... not the wine but...

406 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:31:02pm

re: #405 Gus

Port... not the wine but...

I have no idea what that means but if it's pro-OWS you're going to lose the contest for the signed copy of Maddow's book.

407 Gus  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:32:43pm

re: #406 Killgore Trout

I have no idea what that means but if it's pro-OWS you're going to lose the contest for the signed copy of Maddow's book.

No/yes/notsure. You said something about an occupational hazard and I just thought, well, that's part of living in Portland. ;)

408 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 22, 2012 8:40:34pm

re: #398 Killgore Trout

Long story short: I smoked too much pot and skipped too much high school to become a productive member of society. Conservatory education was my only option.

re: #400 Liberal Entity

Oh, you were an OWS guy! ///

Well THAT explains a lot. Kinda like how ex-smokers are always the most insufferable ones. //

409 docproto48  Fri, Mar 23, 2012 3:50:30am

HIPPA HIPPA HIPPA
That law would place us in direct violation of federal privacy laws.

410 S'latch  Fri, Mar 23, 2012 5:40:01am

re: #409 docproto48

This was my thought, too. The proposed law would probably be preempted by the federal HIPAA law (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act).


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