Herman Cain’s Sadistic New Video - Update: Pulled from YouTube

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Herman Cain’s advertisements attacking the economic stimulus are breaking new ground in simulated sadism, as he works his way up the animal kingdom. The first one showed a child killing a goldfish; Cain’s new ad simulates firing a rabbit out of a catapult and blasting it apart with a shotgun.

Yes, really.

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Herman Cain is a very sick man, and these ads are disgusting.

UPDATE at 3/26/12 9:53:00 am

Interesting — the video has been pulled from YouTube, although it does seem to be a legitimate Herman Cain advertisement. I’ve replaced it with another version from this Politico article about it: Rabbit ‘Shot’ in Strange New Herman Cain Video.

UPDATE at 3/26/12 10:07:59 am

This repellent ad was also posted on the front page of Herman Cain’s website, confirming that it’s genuine: Sick of Stimulus.

Maybe YouTube’s administrators were just appalled by it?

UPDATE at 3/26/12 12:58:16 pm

YouTube has now restored the video. Very odd.

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166 comments
1 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:38:31am

Last I heard, Smoking Mustache was still involved in his PR output.

2 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:39:57am

“Any questions?” I got a bunch of questions.

1. How much did this kid’s parents get paid to make this ad?
2. How did the kid feel while making this ad?
3. How many takes were needed?
4. How many animals died during these video shoots?

3 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:40:07am

Even if it’s simulated, I think I’ll pass on watching that one.

4 Obdicut  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:40:17am

I also automatically hate the hipster dude with the shotgun.

I think this is the philosophy of the Cain PR team:

Image: It_Seemed_Like_a_Good_Idea_at_the_Time.jpg

Also, didn’t he suspend his campaign? So… what the hell?

5 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:40:23am

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uh?

6 erik_t  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:40:44am

I prefer the demon sheep.

7 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:40:58am

re: #3 wrenchwench

It shows blood.

8 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:42:18am

And WTF?

9 Obdicut  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:42:57am

And yes, I have questions. As a small business owner, I wonder in what way I’m like a bunny rabbit, or my business is.

I also wonder what, exactly, the guy with the shotgun is supposed to represent. Dickish hipsters?

10 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:43:37am
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For the love of God, I hope he doesn’t make a video about abortions…

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11 rwdflynavy  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:44:24am

re: #9 Obdicut

And yes, I have questions. As a small business owner, I wonder in what way I’m like a bunny rabbit, or my business is.

I also wonder what, exactly, the guy with the shotgun is supposed to represent. Dickish hipsters?

Dickish hipsters appears to be redundant. Also, Cain’s ad is repugnant.

12 TedStriker  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:46:17am

What.The.Fuck?!?!

Cain and his whole crew are seriously fucked in the head if they think this shit counts as any sort of reasonable discourse.

13 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:46:31am

re: #7 ‘M AFFN FUN

It shows blood.

Sometimes that can bother me, other times not. This morning, this bothered me, so I’ll wait ‘til later, after my hormones shift or whatever does it.

14 Flounder  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:47:07am

Wow, flashbacks of my childhood when my dad brought home a rabbit from hunting. He would have a line of lead shot from the rabbit on his plate. Can’t do that today, steel shot cracks the molars.

15 Tigger2005  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:47:27am

I loved the old Muppet Show episode where they were firing Muppets across the stage from a cannon, but this is something else…

16 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:47:40am

Hey, I’m back after being busy for the last week an- Wait, what the hell did I just come back to? What the hell is this? I’m so confused. And what does shooting bunnies have to do with selling steel wool.

17 Obdicut  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:47:55am

Seriously, the ad doesn’t make any sense. Okay, that’s a small business. Okay, that’s the current tax code. So the current tax code is a catapult? Or is the catapult part and parcel of the guy with the shotgun?

18 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:48:47am

Yes, got questions.

1. Why is a young girl used in the clip? She doesn’t exactly create an endearing image.

2. What’s with the Creepy Cain standing on top of an apocalyptic landscape?

3. Why has the video been removed just now as a violation of YT’s policy against spam, scams and commercially deceptive content?

19 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:49:09am

This is where he gets the meat for his pizza toppings!

20 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:49:13am

“This video has been removed as a violation…..”

???

Whatever it was, who is paying for it?

21 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:49:46am

Does the President quick-morph into the bunny, or the shooter?

22 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:50:18am

re: #17 Obdicut

Seriously, the ad doesn’t make any sense. Okay, that’s a small business. Okay, that’s the current tax code. So the current tax code is a catapult? Or is the catapult part and parcel of the guy with the shotgun?

STUPID parody of the your brain on drugs egg frying ad.

That is about 20 years old and totally archaic.

Conservatives for you —archaic

23 Cinnabar  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:51:00am

“This is your business. This is your business on catapults. Any questions?”

Well yes, actually.

24 rwdflynavy  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:51:39am

Herman Cain irrelevancy watch.

“Big Potato Moths!!!”

25 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:51:50am

re: #17 Obdicut

Seriously, the ad doesn’t make any sense. Okay, that’s a small business. Okay, that’s the current tax code. So the current tax code is a catapult? Or is the catapult part and parcel of the guy with the shotgun?

OK, I think I have it. The catapult is George Washington, the rabbit is capitalism, the girl is the Virgin Mary, the shotgun is 999, the shot is the hopes and dreams of all Americans, and the guy is the area of a rectangular prism. I might be a bit off on some of those, though.

26 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:52:04am

re: #18 ‘M AFFN FUN

Yes, got questions.

1. Why is a young girl used in the clip? She doesn’t exactly create an endearing image.

2. What’s with the Creepy Cain standing on top of apocalyptic landscape?

3. Why has the video been removed right now as a a violation of YT’s policy against spam, scams and commercially deceptive content?

Bunny lobby.

27 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:53:06am

ONLY VIRTUAL BUNNIES WERE USED IN THIS AD.

NO BUNNIES WERE ABUSED IN THIS AD.

Did they forget the disclaimer?

28 blueraven  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:53:22am

The video has been removed? Wonder why?

29 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:53:33am

re: #18 ‘M AFFN FUN

Yes, got questions.

1. Why is a young girl used in the clip? She doesn’t exactly create an endearing image.

2. What’s with the Creepy Cain standing on top of apocalyptic landscape?

3. Why has the video been removed right now as a a violation of YT’s policy against spam, scams and commercially deceptive content?

Just noticed that too. It’s definitely a legitimate Cain ad — see the update above.

30 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:54:23am

re: #27 ggt

ONLY VIRTUAL BUNNIES WERE USED IN THIS AD.

NO BUNNIES WERE ABUSED IN THIS AD.

Did they forget the disclaimer?

Given their target audience, I think the disclaimer would be “We can assure you that real animals were in fact maimed and killed in the filming of this advertisement.”

31 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:54:46am

re: #27 ggt

They put it in the vid description like the last time. “The rabbit is fine”.

32 Flounder  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:55:59am

Shoulda used the holy hand grenade

33 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:56:08am

Here’s another YT copy:

Youtube Video
34 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:56:14am

Mmmm..hasenpfeffer.

35 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:57:15am

re: #31 ‘M AFFN FUN

They put it in the vid description like the last time. “The rabbit is fine”.

“Bit gamey, though.”

36 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:57:33am

re: #32 Tommy’s cone of shame

Shoulda use the holy hand grenade

Ah. So it was the Killer Bunny of Caerbannog! And Cain is filming the second part of the movie.


Youtube Video
37 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:57:33am

His target audience is?

I don’t get the obvious white-ness of the actors. Too stereotypical blond hair, suit and tie.

Bunny, straw, Cain in a sweater vest?

38 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:58:22am

I want to put in a plug for a charity I support

[Link: www.therabbithaven.org…]

Especially around this time of year, some people, in observance of a religious custom, buy bunnies for their kids and do not know how to take care of them. Thousands of bunnies are abandoned or dropped off at shelters each year after Easter.

Please don’t support Herm Cain, and support your local bunny rescue!

39 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:58:30am

re: #37 ggt

His target audience is?

I don’t get the obvious white-ness of the actors. Too stereotypical blond hair, suit and tie.

Bunny, straw, Cain in a sweater vest?

People off their meds.

40 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:58:47am

re: #30 Simply Sarah

Given their target audience, I think the disclaimer would be “We can assure you that real animals were in fact maimed and killed in the filming of this advertisement.”

I find it hilarious that YouTube calls it spam.

41 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:58:50am

re: #39 Simply Sarah

People off their meds.

ah!

42 Renaissance_Man  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:58:59am

I guess when your most receptive audience feeds themselves hate every waking minute of every day, you have to do something totally insane to even get their attention.

43 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:59:23am

re: #36 ‘M AFFN FUN

But then, the whole animal catapult is also from the Holy Grail:

Youtube Video
44 jc717  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 9:59:49am

Reminds me of the ‘Outpost.com’ commercials from the late 90s.
Of course, those were meant to be funny.

45 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:00:23am

I get the idea that Cain is pissed-off. He worked hard, attained the status of a Patrician and now is told the game is off. America doesn’t tolerate class differences.

He has to be a regular guy.

46 jvic  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:01:03am

I don’t react favorably to truculent underage know-it-alls.

What was the ad about, anyway?

47 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:01:06am

This shows you just how pathetic Cain really is. Mike Gravel could get by with silently staring into the camera for a few minutes before chucking a rock into a pond and walking away. He didn’t need any of these fancy catapults or lagomorphs in his videos.

48 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:01:38am

re: #38 ReamWorks

I want to put in a plug for a charity I support

[Link: www.therabbithaven.org…]

Especially around this time of year, some people, in observance of a religious custom, buy bunnies for their kids and do not know how to take care of them. Thousands of bunnies are abandoned or dropped off at shelters each year after Easter.

Please don’t support Herm Cain, and support your local bunny rescue!

God, people still do that? My mom always talks about it as one of the awful things people did when she was a little girl in the 50s.

49 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:01:43am

Man - I just love me a catapult bunny/shotgun small mammal political metaphor. They crack me up every time.

More disturbing than the add itself? Think of the mentality of the people they’re targeting.

50 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:02:09am

As someone who has several small businesses, I have No Idea what Herm Cain is trying to say about that ad. Obama certainly hasn’t made anything significantly worse for me (CA State is another matter. They truly hate working people.)

51 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:02:29am

Charles Johnson,

What is it with Herman Cain and his adds? Does he really think this will somehow scare people into supporting him?

The only thing I can think of is that he must of liked those old “this is your brain on drugs” commercials and wanted to imitate them.

52 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:02:38am

re: #45 ggt

I get the idea that Cain is pissed-off. He worked hard, attained the status of a Patrician and now is told the game is off. America doesn’t tolerate class differences.

He has to be a regular guy.

Scroo ‘im. He’d be a natural for governor of a state. If he were Democrat. And sane.

53 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:02:55am

So, is this video available anywhere else, or did he really just intend to publish on YouTube, for free?

54 Obdicut  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:02:58am

You can’t even see the video at their sickofstimulus site, since they just used the youtube video.

[Link: sickofstimulus.com…]

55 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:03:31am

re: #54 Obdicut

You can’t even see the video at their sickofstimulus site, since they just used the youtube video.

[Link: sickofstimulus.com…]

LOL!

56 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:03:51am

re: #43 ‘M AFFN FUN

But then, the whole animal catapult is also from the Holy Grail:

[Embedded content]

Kind of does put this into an outrageous outrage perspective.

57 Kronocide  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:04:16am

Why does Cain hate bunnies?

58 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:04:22am

re: #48 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes, they do! And we Jews can feel all good and self righteous about it! (Just don’t tell the Chicken Rescue people about kaporot.)

59 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:04:22am

re: #54 Obdicut

You can’t even see the video at their sickofstimulus site, since they just used the youtube video.

[Link: sickofstimulus.com…]

Well, embedding the YouTube video is normally a pretty good idea for saving bandwidth and stuff. It just…doesn’t work so well if Google puts the kibosh on it.

60 Obdicut  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:04:22am

re: #54 Obdicut

Maybe youtube thought this couldn’t fucking possibly be a real ad.

61 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:05:35am

re: #54 Obdicut

You can’t even see the video at their sickofstimulus site, since they just used the youtube video.

[Link: sickofstimulus.com…]

Notice that this moonbat site needs stimulus in the form of money solicitations.

62 nines09  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:05:38am

Herman Cain is one humorless jerkoff.

63 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:05:44am

re: #54 Obdicut

You can’t even see the video at their sickofstimulus site, since they just used the youtube video.

[Link: sickofstimulus.com…]

The fact that they posted it there is confirmation that it’s a genuine ad.

64 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:05:53am

Freak-o-rama!

Porn-star ‘stache guy has to be involved in this. It reminds me of that dot.com commercial from about 1999 where they shot a hamster out of a cannon. That was strictly for laughs, though, and the hamster was shown running away after it smacked into the target.

65 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:06:08am

I think two parallel realitys have over-lapped and we are seeing glimpses into the OTHER world.

Seriously. It’s easier to cope that way.

66 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:06:30am

YouTube doesn’t audit complaints. So if a video goes up and immediately some secret-sauce-threshold number of people click on “report abuse” away it will go, even if it’s a harmless video. The remedy is to contact them and wait a few weeks for it to be manually reviewed.

67 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:06:51am

re: #61 Blue Spot Vlamingii Tang

Notice that this moonbat site needs stimulus in the form of money solicitations.

moonbat or wingnut?

68 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:07:14am

re: #63 Charles Johnson

It was at the official CainConnection channel.

69 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:08:40am

re: #57 Kronocide

Why does Cain hate bunnies?

Their whole community is a bunch of freeloading vegetarians that screw irresponsibly and are too ‘good’ to take a job delivering pizzas.

70 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:09:07am

re: #64 Shiplord Kirel

Freak-o-rama!

Porn-star ‘stache guy has to be involved in this. It reminds me of that dot.com commercial from about 1999 where they shot a hamster out of a cannon. That was strictly for laughs, though, and the hamster was shown running away after it smacked into the target.

Then there was the radio jocks, Bubba The Love Sponge (yuck!), who thought they would throw a bunch of live turkeys out of a helicopter (I forget why, probably nobody knows). The morons didn’t know that domesticated turkeys can’t fly.

Splat, splat, splat…

71 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:09:20am

re: #64 Shiplord Kirel

Freak-o-rama!

Porn-star ‘stache guy has to be involved in this. It reminds me of that dot.com commercial from about 1999 where they shot a hamster out of a cannon. That was strictly for laughs, though, and the hamster was shown running away after it smacked into the target.

Here it is. It was Outpost.com, and the critter is a gerbil rather than a hamster:

Youtube Video
72 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:09:27am

re: #67 ggt

moonbat or wingnut?

There’s a difference?

73 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:09:46am

re: #72 Blue Spot Vlamingii Tang

There’s a difference?

I think so.

74 Jimmah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:10:20am

Herman Cains brain is now officially a scientific curiosity.

75 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:10:58am

Flashback:

Youtube Video
76 Interesting Times  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:11:09am

re: #72 Blue Spot Vlamingii Tang

There’s a difference?

Yes, moonbat = far-left fringe, e.g. Cynthia McKinney, George Galloway, other people mainstream Democrats pay no attention whatsoever to

Wingnut = entire GOP presidential field

77 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:11:15am

I really have to get going —driving Mom around today

Have a good one!

78 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:12:13am

re: #76 Interesting Times

Yes, moonbat = far-left fringe, e.g. Cynthia McKinney, George Galloway, other people mainstream Democrats pay no attention whatsoever to

Wingnut = entire GOP presidential field

LGF adopted that as a convention—it’s not universal, though.

79 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:12:19am

re: #57 Kronocide

Why does Cain hate bunnies?

Kiww the wabbit!

Youtube Video
80 Four More Tears  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:12:20am

My twitter feed is now telling me that a family spokesperson has said that Trayvon was suspended because of pot residue in his bookbag.

This’ll get worse before it gets better.

81 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:12:39am

re: #76 Interesting Times

Yes, moonbat = far-left fringe, e.g. Cynthia McKinney, George Galloway, other people mainstream Democrats pay no attention whatsoever to

Wingnut = entire GOP presidential field

OK. One is left loon. One is right loon. I’ll just use loon then, since I’m independent.

82 Obdicut  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:12:48am

re: #80 Altar Boy of Darwinism

Everyone knows how violent people who smoke pot are.

83 Jimmah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:13:03am

Kill the wabbit!

Youtube Video
84 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:13:21am

I step away from the computer for a few hours and suddenly we’re talking about Herman Cain in the present tense again. This is a weird year.

85 Interesting Times  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:15:09am

re: #80 Altar Boy of Darwinism

My twitter feed is now telling me that a family spokesperson has said that Trayvon was suspended because of pot residue in his bookbag.

This’ll get worse before it gets better.

86 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:16:01am

re: #84 Pope Ron Polyp XXXVII

I step away from the computer for a few hours and suddenly we’re talking about Herman Cain in the present tense again. This is a weird year.

Don’t worry. I’m sure we’ll once again completely forget he even exists in a day or two.

87 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:16:14am

re: #78 Decatur Deb

LGF adopted that as a convention—it’s not universal, though.

Yep. Originally moonbat could be a non-partisan term, denoting any extremist who went so far in their partisan logic that they became unreasonable. Wingnut by its nature can also denote left-wing nuts, and one centrist guy has a book called “Wingnuts”, castigating what he sees as far left and right excesses (although it was MBFish).

88 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:16:27am

re: #80 Altar Boy of Darwinism

My twitter feed is now telling me that a family spokesperson has said that Trayvon was suspended because of pot residue in his bookbag.

This’ll get worse before it gets better.

Anyone here want to claim that that could never ever have happened to themselves?

89 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:16:53am

re: #70 Blue Spot Vlamingii Tang

Then there was the radio jocks, Bubba The Love Sponge (yuck!), who thought they would throw a bunch of live turkeys out of a helicopter (I forget why, probably nobody knows). The morons didn’t know that domesticated turkeys can’t fly.

Splat, splat, splat…

WKRP turkey drop:

Youtube Video
90 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:17:27am

re: #58 ReamWorks

Yes, they do! And we Jews can feel all good and self righteous about it! (Just don’t tell the Chicken Rescue people about kaporot.)

Chickens that are used for kaparos don’t need homes. They get eaten.

91 Jimmah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:17:42am

re: #84 Pope Ron Polyp XXXVII

I step away from the computer for a few hours and suddenly we’re talking about Herman Cain in the present tense again. This is a weird year.

There was a freak sighting of Joe The Plumber the other day.

92 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:17:58am

re: #88 Blue Spot Vlamingii Tang

Anyone here want to claim that that could never ever have happened to themselves?

I’m pretty sure if having so much as been around pot at some point in your life is grounds for being shot dead then we don’t really need laws against murder anymore.

93 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:18:32am

re: #91 Aye Pod

There was a freak sighting of Joe The Plumber the other day.

Not comparable—he won his primary.

94 sagehen  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:18:38am

Will his next video feature:

a) pulling the wings off flies
b) dropping a bag of kittens into a river
c) staking a puppy to an anthill

95 Four More Tears  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:18:58am

re: #88 Blue Spot Vlamingii Tang

Anyone here want to claim that that could never ever have happened to themselves?

I’m not judging the kid over it, but his detractors will.

96 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:19:09am

re: #80 Altar Boy of Darwinism

My twitter feed is now telling me that a family spokesperson has said that Trayvon was suspended because of pot residue in his bookbag.

This’ll get worse before it gets better.

So, wait, all my students that got caught with weed, that’s a death sentence that we wait for a random stranger to carry out?

97 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:19:42am

re: #88 Blue Spot Vlamingii Tang

Anyone here want to claim that that could never ever have happened to themselves?

It could never ever have happened to me in high school.

But that’s not the point.

98 Kronocide  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:19:50am

re: #91 Aye Pod

There was a freak sighting of Joe The Plumber the other day.

Joe The Plumber vs Lamestream Media

99 Obdicut  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:19:54am

re: #96 SanFranciscoZionist

So, wait, all my students that got caught with weed, that’s a death sentence that we wait for a random stranger to carry out?

Well, were they also caught being black?

100 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:20:25am

re: #94 sagehen

Will his next video feature:

a) pulling the wings off flies
b) dropping a bag of kittens into a river
c) staking a puppy to an anthill

It’ll be a Rube Goldberg machine. He’ll pull the wings off a fly, which will drop a puppy into a a meat grinder, which will trigger a boot kicking the sack of kittens into the river.

101 iossarian  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:20:31am

re: #99 Obdicut

Well, were they also caught being black?

Could they be described by right-wing mouth-breathers as “gangbangers”?

102 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:20:39am

re: #99 Obdicut

Well, were they also caught being black?

Mostly not, actually. The white kids were more into weed at Salesian.

103 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:20:44am

The Bible says nothing about pot.

104 Kronocide  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:21:00am

re: #96 SanFranciscoZionist

So, wait, all my students that got caught with weed, that’s a death sentence that we wait for a random stranger to carry out?

Only if they were thuggish: black, tattoos, suspended from school, and with weed residue.

105 Renaissance_Man  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:21:01am

re: #95 Altar Boy of Darwinism

I’m not judging the kid over it, but his detractors will.

And this is the problem. Detractors? He was an ordinary teenager who went to the convenience store for candy. Doing nothing wrong, he was stalked and murdered. Why the fuck does he have detractors? What the hell is wrong with Conservative cultists that they must attack a dead teenager to defend ‘their side’? Why the hell is this about sides?

106 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:21:18am

PETA complained about this video 3 weeks ago.

PETA: Herman Cain Ad No Better Than ‘Strapping a Dog to the Roof of Your Car’

107 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:22:14am

re: #104 Kronocide

Only if they were thuggish: black, tattoos, suspended from school, and with weed residue.

Well, I can easily get you the first three.

Or the last three.

Are all four needed?

108 Kragar  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:22:21am

re: #85 Interesting Times

[Embedded content]

Rush keeps using the term “the alleged shooter” to describe Zimmerman and I want to slap him. That Zimmerman shot Martin is an undisputed fact from all parties involved, alleged has nothing to do with it, other than to spread more disinformation.

109 Four More Tears  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:22:33am

re: #99 Obdicut

Well, were they also caught being black?

When white kids do weed they’re experimenting. When black kids do it they’re hardcore gangbangers.

/

I’ll bet real American money that the Dan Riehl’s of the world will try to paint him in that light.

110 sagehen  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:22:36am

re: #50 ReamWorks

As someone who has several small businesses, I have No Idea what Herm Cain is trying to say about that ad. Obama certainly hasn’t made anything significantly worse for me (CA State is another matter. They truly hate working people.)

Most of the regulations that make things difficult for small business are state laws and/or city ordinances — somebody at the Cato Institute got fired for doing a whole video about why the federal government isn’t really the problem.

111 Obdicut  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:22:49am

re: #106 NJDhockeyfan

Different ad.

112 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:23:06am

re: #104 Kronocide

Only if they were thuggish: black, tattoos, suspended from school, and with weed residue.

One of the 2 tattoos was, of course, “Sybrina”. Which is the name of his mother.

113 Kronocide  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:23:07am

re: #103 ‘M AFFN FUN

The Bible says nothing about pot.

It’s not in the Constitution either.

114 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:23:36am

re: #105 Renaissance_Man

And this is the problem. Detractors? He was an ordinary teenager who went to the convenience store for candy. Doing nothing wrong, he was stalked and murdered. Why the fuck does he have detractors? What the hell is wrong with Conservative cultists that they must attack a dead teenager to defend ‘their side’? Why the hell is this about sides?

They’re stomping their feet, and have tears in their eyes, as they resist the cruel, sadistic, high-handed attempt of mean people to act as though a teenage boy being shot is some kind of big deal.

I don’t get it either.

115 Kronocide  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:23:55am

re: #107 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, I can easily get you the first three.

Or the last three.

Are all four needed?

I think Zimmerman only needed one.

116 Gus  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:24:07am
117 Four More Tears  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:24:51am

re: #110 sagehen

Most of the regulations that make things difficult for small business are state laws and/or city ordinances — somebody at the Cato Institute got fired for doing a whole video about why the federal government isn’t really the problem.

I guess the poor person didn’t understand the concept of “narrative.”

118 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:25:00am

re: #108 Kragar

Rush keeps using the term “the alleged shooter” to describe Zimmerman and I want to slap him. That Zimmerman shot Martin is an undisputed fact from all parties involved, alleged has nothing to do with it, other than to spread more disinformation.

I’m seeing the SF Chron doing that as well. It’s odd, but I guess that the shooting hasn’t been established in court—except that I’m fairly sure Zimmerman said that he did it, and there appears to be no reason to doubt him on that point.

119 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:25:37am

re: #109 Altar Boy of Darwinism

When white kids do weed they’re experimenting. When black kids do it they’re hardcore gangbangers.

/

I’ll bet real American money that the Dan Riehl’s of the world will try to paint him in that light.

White kids are experimenting, unless they say something positive about birth control, or wear a lefty t-shirt to school.

120 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:25:52am

re: #112 ‘M AFFN FUN

One of the 2 tattoos was, of course, “Sybrina”. Which is the name of his mother.

What was the other?

121 iossarian  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:25:56am

re: #116 Gus

The Duke lacrosse case

The one where the privileged white alcoholic bastard killed his girlfriend, or the other one?

122 Gus  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:26:30am

re: #121 iossarian

The one where the privileged white alcoholic bastard killed his girlfriend, or the other one?

The “rape” case no doubt.

123 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:26:52am

re: #118 SanFranciscoZionist

However, comparing Rush to news outlets would be incorrect. Also, we know he wouldn’t afford the courtesy of “alleged” in many other cases.

124 Kragar  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:26:55am

re: #118 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m seeing the SF Chron doing that as well. It’s odd, but I guess that the shooting hasn’t been established in court—except that I’m fairly sure Zimmerman said that he did it, and there appears to be no reason to doubt him on that point.

Alleged implies there is the possibility that someone else shot Martin.

125 Bulworth  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:26:57am

Dear Herman Cain,

I’m sick of the rightwing’s complete lack of seriousness and malevolent ambitions.

Sincerely,

126 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:27:12am

re: #111 Obdicut

Different ad.

I just noticed. It’s hard to find the bunny one but I saw it.

127 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:27:15am

re: #105 Renaissance_Man

And this is the problem. Detractors? He was an ordinary teenager who went to the convenience store for candy. Doing nothing wrong, he was stalked and murdered. Why the fuck does he have detractors? What the hell is wrong with Conservative cultists that they must attack a dead teenager to defend ‘their side’? Why the hell is this about sides?

And, of course, even if he did attack Zimmerman…wouldn’t that have simply been Trayvon, you know, standing his ground? Defending himself from a perceived threat?

128 Flounder  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:27:43am

re: #118 SanFranciscoZionist

Until he gets convicted it is alleged. If you don’t use it you get sued for defamation.

129 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:27:59am

re: #124 Kragar

Alleged implies there is the possibility that someone else shot Martin.

True.

130 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:28:06am

re: #120 SanFranciscoZionist

What was the other?

I didn’t understand. But I’ve seen no allegations that those were gang tattoos.

131 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:28:10am

“They are my people! I am their sovereign! I LOVE Them. Pull!”
~King Louis

Youtube Video
132 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:28:26am

re: #106 NJDhockeyfan

PETA complained about this video 3 weeks ago.

PETA: Herman Cain Ad No Better Than ‘Strapping a Dog to the Roof of Your Car’

No, they complained about the goldfish video.

133 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:29:07am

re: #127 Simply Sarah

And, of course, even if he did attack Zimmerman…wouldn’t that have simply been Trayvon, you know, standing his ground? Defending himself from a perceived threat?

I’ve been amazed by the trolls over at ABL who will explain that following Trayvon was legally allowed, but that if Trayvon attacked Zimmerman out of fear, that was WRONG.

134 Gus  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:30:02am

re: #133 SanFranciscoZionist

I’ve been amazed by the trolls over at ABL who will explain that following Trayvon was legally allowed, but that if Trayvon attacked Zimmerman out of fear, that was WRONG.

Hand gun supremacists. Of course there is that other “supremacy” factor at play here too.

135 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:30:06am

re: #130 ‘M AFFN FUN

I didn’t understand. But I’ve seen no allegations that those were gang tattoos.

A lot of kids get tattoos of their mom’s name. It’s popular right now.

I tell the boys, better your mom than the girl you think you’re in love with this week.

136 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:30:25am

re: #132 Charles Johnson

No, they complained about the goldfish video.

They’ll have a litter of kittens over this one (excuse the metaphor).

137 iossarian  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:30:33am

re: #121 iossarian

The one where the privileged white alcoholic bastard killed his girlfriend, or the other one?

Of course. Just pointing out that the very first analogy alighted on by Rush leads to a possible misinterpretation as an example of rich white people behaving as if they can do whatever the fuck they want.

138 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:30:54am

re: #128 Tommy’s cone of shame

Until he gets convicted it is alleged. If you don’t use it you get sued for defamation.

Incorrect. That he is the shooter is not in question. He is the shooter both according to himself and to the police. “Self-defense” assumes that he is the shooter. And it can’t be otherwise, since there may never be a trial at all.

139 Kragar  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:31:10am

Pat Robertson Says Homosexuality is ‘Related to Demonic Possession’

/facepalm

140 iossarian  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:31:20am

re: #137 iossarian

Meant for #122

141 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:31:25am

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel

They’ll have a litter of kittens over this one (excuse the metaphor).

They kill lots of animals every year. Fuck PETA.

142 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:31:35am

re: #116 Gus

Limbaugh on #Trayvon case: “When I first heard of this story the first thing I thought of was the Duke lacrosse case.”

— Charles M. Blow (@CharlesMBlow) March 26, 2012

Rush you fucking asshole. The Duke lacrosse case was the result of Crystal Mangum outright lying to police about having been raped and Mike Nifong caring more about short term political gain than justice or the truth or the Duke students. No crime or negative act was actually committed.

Contrast with Trayvon, who we know was shot and killed by Zimmerman. That alone makes it completely different. Never mind that Trayvon was unarmed and Zimmerman was stalking him.

143 Four More Tears  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:32:57am

re: #128 Tommy’s cone of shame

Until he gets convicted it is alleged. If you don’t use it you get sued for defamation.

Sooo.. if there’s never a trial he will always be the “alleged” shooter of Trayvon Martin?

Mohammed Atta “allegedly” flew a plane into the WTC then?

144 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:33:27am

Now, calling him a “murderer” could cause a lawsuit until the conviction. “Shooter” is a statement of fact. “Alleged shooter” is a misrepresentation of reality.

145 erik_t  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:33:42am

Familiar patterns emerge in SCOTUS health care hearings

The justices called on the lawyers for the White House and the Republicans to make the case that the Supreme Court has the requisite jurisdiction. Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Samuel Alito and Anthony Kennedy were less vocal than the liberal-leaning justices. Justice Clarence Thomas, as expected, did not speak.

Commentary unnecessary.

146 iossarian  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:34:33am

re: #142 Simply Sarah

The other thing about the Duke lacrosse case which didn’t involve a rich frat boy killing his girlfriend in a drunken rage, is that the initial behavior of the lacrosse team, while quite legal, is pretty revealing of the attitude which Rush is so willing to embrace:

“Hurr durr, let’s get some poor black chix in to strip for us.”

“How DARE she spoil our fun?”

147 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:35:11am

re: #71 Shiplord Kirel

Here it is. It was Outpost.com, and the critter is a gerbil rather than a hamster:

[Embedded content]

You know the difference between gerbils and hamsters?

Hamsters have more dark meat.

148 Kragar  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:35:53am

re: #144 ‘M AFFN FUN

Now, calling him a “murderer” could cause a lawsuit until the conviction. “Shooter” is a statement of fact. “Alleged shooter” is a misrepresentation of reality.

The fact is Zimmerman was the man who shot Martin. He admitted it. What is in doubt are his motives, legal justification, and how the local PD handled the incident.

149 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:36:35am

re: #148 Kragar

Moreover, he is free due to the law that assumes that he is a shooter.

150 darthstar  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:37:21am

re: #149 ‘M AFFN FUN

Moreover, he is free due to the law that assumes that he is a shooter.

A shooter in a hoodie shooting an unarmed kid in a hoodie…

151 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:37:57am

re: #146 iossarian

The other thing about the Duke lacrosse case which didn’t involve a rich frat boy killing his girlfriend in a drunken rage, is that the initial behavior of the lacrosse team, while quite legal, is pretty revealing of the attitude which Rush is so willing to embrace:

“Hurr durr, let’s get some poor black chix in to strip for us.”

“How DARE she spoil our fun?”

Oh, for sure. The Duke players clearly weren’t exactly saints and there was a lot of race and class privilege involved in their actions. They just, somehow, ended up being the lesser assholes in the whole thing.

152 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:38:27am

If he denied that he is the shooter, the self-defense clause would not be applicable and there would have been a trial.

153 Flounder  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:41:48am

re: #138 ‘M AFFN FUN

So then you are not innocent unitl proven guilty.

154 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:42:54am

re: #153 Tommy’s cone of shame

So then you are not innocent unitl proven guilty.

Being a shooter is not the same as being guilty.

155 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:46:20am

re: #103 ‘M AFFN FUN

The Bible says nothing about pot.

Yeah it does:

Genesis 1:29

Young’s Literal Translation:
And God saith, ‘Lo, I have given to you every herb sowing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree in which is the fruit of a tree sowing seed, to you it is for food;

156 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:48:01am

And here’s the thing about Zimmerman. We don’t know for certain what happened, what he was thinking, etc. Maybe he really was just an over-zealous dude trying, if in an incorrect manner, to protect his neighborhood. Maybe Trayvon really did attack him. Maybe Zimmerman really did shoot out of fear for his life. Maybe he does feel broken and full of regret.

It’s just that none of that matters. This should have been investigated properly from the beginning. He should have been tested for alcohol and drugs. It shouldn’t have just been “Well, he says it was self defense, so I guess it was.” If that’s really what the law requires than it should be changed. Because the way this stands right now doesn’t help anyone innocent. If Zimmerman truly should be left free, I don’t see how anything short of a proper investigation clearing him can truly do that. And it may be too late for even that now.

157 sagehen  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:51:30am

re: #109 Altar Boy of Darwinism

When white kids do weed they’re experimenting. When black kids do it they’re hardcore gangbangers.

/

I’ll bet real American money that the Dan Riehl’s of the world will try to paint him in that light.

Mitch Daniels (yes, that Mitch Daniels) and his roomates were arrested in 1971 (junior year at Princeton):

Officers found enough marijuana in his room to fill two size 12 shoe boxes, reports of the incident say. He and the other inhabitants of the room were also charged with possession of LSD and prescription drugs without a prescription. Daniels and his two roommates in 111 Cuyler Hall, Marc Stuart ‘71 and Richard Stockton ‘71, were arrested and, after plea bargaining, Daniels eventually escaped with a $350 fine for “maintaining a common nuisance.”

Daniels, a Republican who served as George W. Bush’s budget director, portrays this incident as a youthful mistake for which he paid an appropriate price. “I don’t make excuses for anything,” he says. “Justice was served.”

[Link: reason.com…]

158 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 10:57:50am

re: #113 Kronocide

It’s not in the Constitution either.

Wasn’t the constitution written on Cannabis paper?

159 funky chicken  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 11:12:38am

re: #88 Blue Spot Vlamingii Tang

Anyone here want to claim that that could never ever have happened to themselves?

Oh, the stories I could tell…

160 sagehen  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 11:17:25am

re: #158 RayFerd

Wasn’t the constitution written on Cannabis paper?

The first hemp laws in America were passed in 1619 and they were ‘must grow’ laws. If you were a farmer living in America and you didn’t grow hemp, you would be jailed or kicked out of the country as a non patriot. These first laws were put in place by the Colonist Government of Great Britain. In 1773 and again in 1776, ( the year the Declaration of Independence was signed). American made their own must grow laws. At that time, it was one of the most widely used plants in the world. Fact - Cannabis hemp was legal tender (money) in most of America from 1631 until the early 1800s. Thomas Jefferson risked his life bring hemp seeds to America from overseas. Benjamin Franklin, started the first paper mill in America and all of the paper was made out of hemp.

[Link: www.nnytimes.com…]

George Washington grew hemp at Mt Vernon.

(it was first made illegal in 1937 — William Randolph Hearst agitated for such laws, because he wanted to reduce competition for his extensive timber interests)

161 Origuy  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 11:20:44am

re: #155 RayFerd

‘Lo, I have given to you every herb sowing seed,…’

I guess that excludes sinsemilla. (Spanish for “without seed”)

162 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 11:21:48am

re: #161 Origuy

I guess that excludes sinsemilla. (Spanish for “without seed”)

“Avoid GM Weed”


(We need a moonbat typefont.)

163 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 11:22:52am

Monty Python did this much better about 30 years ago.

164 SidewaysQuark  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 12:07:09pm

Does the rabbit smoke a cigarette?

165 JWBurns  Mon, Mar 26, 2012 3:26:46pm

I found the video hilarious in it’s absurdity. Which isn’t exactly what they were going for.. or maybe it was.

166 JRCMYP  Tue, Mar 27, 2012 9:59:23am

re: #9 Obdicut

And yes, I have questions. As a small business owner, I wonder in what way I’m like a bunny rabbit, or my business is.

I also wonder what, exactly, the guy with the shotgun is supposed to represent. Dickish hipsters?

Maybe just Dick Cheney?


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