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New ABC/WaPo Poll: A Lot of People Dislike Mitt

The likability factor
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Mitt Romney is going to be the official anointed candidate of the GOP, but he has a big problem; a whole lot of people simply don’t like him: Record Number See Romney Negatively; Obama Outpaces Him in Popularity.

Mitt Romney trails Barack Obama by 19 points in basic popularity as the 2012 presidential contest inches closer to the main event, with a record 50 percent of Americans in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll now rating Romney unfavorably overall.

Thirty-four percent hold a favorable opinion of Romney, the lowest for any leading presidential candidate in ABC/Post polls in primary seasons since 1984. His unfavorable score is higher than Obama ever has received; it’s been exceeded by just one other Republican candidate this year, Newt Gingrich, and by only one top candidate in 28 years, Hillary Clinton in 2008.

Obama, for his part, remains above water — 53 percent favorable, 43 percent unfavorable in this poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates. It’s Obama’s third consecutive month with a rating more than 50 percent positive, after dipping to 47 percent in September, the lowest of his presidency.

And the people who really don’t like Romney are the very same ones who will have to hold their noses and vote for him in November:

Although higher unfavorable ratings among independents, Democrats and liberals pushed Romney to a 50 percent overall negative rating this week, his more pressing problem, with the primaries still on, is his relative lack of popularity among core GOP groups.

Romney’s seen favorably by 62 percent of Republicans and 47 percent of conservatives overall, including 54 percent of strong conservatives. Obama fares much better on the other side of the political spectrum — 86 percent favorable among Democrats, 75 percent among liberals.

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149 comments

1 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:22:54am

This might go like Reagan V Mondale.

2 Flounder  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:24:18am

I'm surprised Mittens scored as well as he did with repubs and conservatives.

3 Kragar  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:25:02am

Mitt Romney: See Pyrrhus of Epirus

4 Flounder  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:26:13am

re: #1 Daniel Ballard

We need to get mittens in a tank, that will end his run.

5 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:27:51am

How is this going to effect Obama's poll numbers if it's found unconstitutional?

Justices poised to strike down entire healthcare law

6 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:28:08am

Is there any possible outcome for the Republican nominating process that would be more favorable for them than Mitt being the nominee? I can't think of one.

7 Flounder  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:28:57am

re: #5 NJDhockeyfan

WTF is going on in that picture?!

8 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:29:36am

re: #1 Daniel Ballard

This might go like Reagan V Mondale.

If the economy continues to improve, it probably will.

9 iossarian  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:29:51am

re: #7 Tommy's cone of shame

WTF is going on in that picture?!

Prayers for poor people to be left to die of easily-preventable diseases.

10 SpaceJesus  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:31:48am

Poor Mitt :(

11 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:32:03am

re: #5 NJDhockeyfan

How is this going to effect Obama's poll numbers if it's found unconstitutional?

Justices poised to strike down entire healthcare law

Hard to say. A broad ruling striking the entire law could have all sorts of political fallout. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of it energizing the left more than the right, but it could easily work the other way too. I'm not sure it would help the public's already less than amazing opinion of the Court, either.

12 iossarian  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:33:17am

re: #11 Simply Sarah

Hard to say. A broad ruling striking the entire law could have all sorts of political fallout. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of it energizing the left more than the right, but it could easily work the other way too. I'm not sure it would help the public's already less than amazing opinion of the Court, either.

Best possible outcome: law struck down -> galvanizing effect -> 2nd term plus 60 reliable votes -> single payer healthcare

13 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:33:19am

re: #5 NJDhockeyfan

It's an interesting question. This will surely be part of the answer:

About 2.5 million young people under age 26 are on their parents' insurance now because of the new law. If it were struck down entirely, "2.5 million of them would be thrown off the insurance rolls," said Edwin Kneedler.

14 nines09  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:34:16am

Now if Mitt can just take down the entire GOP/TP with him it would be a real victory.

15 iossarian  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:34:50am

re: #13 'M AFFN FUN

It's an interesting question. This will surely be part of the answer:

About 2.5 million young people under age 26 are on their parents' insurance now because of the new law. If it were struck down entirely, "2.5 million of them would be thrown off the insurance rolls," said Edwin Kneedler.

You can't have insurance because Clarence Thomas's wife needs another free holiday!

16 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:34:53am

re: #12 iossarian

Best possible outcome: law struck down -> galvanizing effect -> 2nd term plus 60 reliable votes -> single payer healthcare

It's unclear the Democrats will even hold a majority in the Senate. The chances of them getting enough Republicans to have 60 votes for a single payer system is likely next to nil.

17 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:35:07am

re: #5 NJDhockeyfan

How is this going to effect Obama's poll numbers if it's found uncontitutional?

Justices poised to strike down entire healthcare law

My guess is that this might be like when sections of the Patriot act were found to be unconstitutional. They might be able to make some tweaks or simple administrative changes so it passes constitutional muster.

18 Iwouldprefernotto  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:35:30am

re: #11 Simply Sarah

Hard to say. A broad ruling striking the entire law could have all sorts of political fallout. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of it energizing the left more than the right, but it could easily work the other way too. I'm not sure it would help the public's already less than amazing opinion of the Court, either.

If the law is thrown out and people are kicked off of their healthcare insurance, it will make Obama's case that reform was necessary. Of course insurance companies would probably wait until after the elections to eject their customers with preexisting conditions.

19 iossarian  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:35:40am

re: #16 Simply Sarah

It's unclear the Democrats will even hold a majority in the Senate. The chances of them getting enough Republicans to have 60 votes for a single payer system is likely next to nil.

Hey ho. Global warming and collapse of western civilization it is then.

20 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:36:37am

re: #17 Killgore Trout

My guess is that this might be like when sections of the Patriot act were found to be unconstitutional. They might be able to make some tweaks or simple administrative changes so it passes constitutional muster.

Well, I think the mandate would be easy enough to fix if the votes for doing so were there. But they aren't. Not even close. If the court strikes down the whole law, it's going to stay dead.

21 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:38:31am

Maybe they will do a CPR or go to the Pet Sematary, I'm sure she can be fixed despite the missing spine.

22 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:39:28am

re: #18 Iwouldprefernotto

If the law is thrown out and people are kicked off of their healthcare insurance, it will make Obama's case that reform was necessary. Of course insurance companies would probably wait until after the elections to eject their customers with preexisting conditions.

It certainly is possible that since the parts of the bill that have already been implemented are fairly popular, there will be a backlash against such a ruling. It would certainly cause a huge mess. Personally, I find it hard to believe that there wouldn't be at least some parts of the law that could be severed. As I'd said before, trying to read the positions of the justices based on oral arguments is often difficult at best and dangerous at worst.

23 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:39:39am

re: #7 Tommy's cone of shame

WTF is going on in that picture?!

They are praying for people to die of curable illnesses?

24 jamesfirecat  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:39:40am

re: #4 Tommy's cone of shame

We need to get mittens in a tank, that will end his run.

Can he strap a dog to the top of the tank? Or have a chauffeur drive the tank for him?

25 jaunte  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:40:01am

re: #9 iossarian

Prayers for poor people to be left to die of easily-preventable diseases.

None of those people upset about the individua
l mandate seem to have been distressed by the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act, that forces hospitals to provide care to people who can't pay for it. [Link: www.law.cornell.edu...]

26 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:40:20am

re: #17 Killgore Trout

My guess is that this might be like when sections of the Patriot act were found to be unconstitutional. They might be able to make some tweaks or simple administrative changes so it passes constitutional muster.

That would mean they would have to rewrite the bill and try to pass it again, right? I don't think it would make it to the president's desk if that's the case.

27 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:40:25am

re: #9 iossarian

Prayers for poor people to be left to die of easily-preventable diseases.

Damn, I just answered almost the exact same thing.

28 iossarian  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:40:52am

re: #27 RayFerd

Damn, I just answered almost the exact same thing.

GMTA!

29 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:41:11am

re: #5 NJDhockeyfan

How is this going to effect Obama's poll numbers if it's found unconstitutional?

Justices poised to strike down entire healthcare law

Couldn't they just refer it back to the lower court?

30 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:41:22am

re: #25 jaunte

None of those people upset about the individaul mandate seem to have been distressed by the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act, that forces hospitals to provide care to people who can't pay for it. [Link: www.law.cornell.edu...]

Shh... that's the next thing they'll try to undo.

31 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:41:25am

re: #26 NJDhockeyfan

That would mean they would have to rewrite the bill and try to pass it again, right? I don't think it would make it to the president's desk if that's the case.

At that point the GOP will 'own' the messed up system.
Congrats to all those kicked off the new system!
Wait...

32 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:41:46am

re: #26 NJDhockeyfan

That would mean they would have to rewrite the bill and try to pass it again, right? I don't think it would make it to the president's desk if that's the case.

Oh, I'm sure they can do something. Sometimes waving hands around helps. Maybe they will invite David Copperfield. Anyway, I trust KT's tentative conclusion. It will be fine./

33 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:42:15am

re: #26 NJDhockeyfan

That would mean they would have to rewrite the bill and try to pass it again, right? I don't think it would make it to the president's desk if that's the case.

I'm not sure how the patriot acts fixes went through. I don't think it was a full congressional vote. I think it was either done in committee or by presidential order. I forget.

34 jaunte  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:42:20am

re: #30 wrenchwench

That's where the 'broccoli' argument comes undone. No one makes a broccoli farmer give his produce to people who can't pay.

35 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:42:43am

re: #23 RayFerd

They are praying for people to die of curable illnesses?

"If you get sick, America, the Republican health care plan is this: die quickly!"
~ Alan Grayson

36 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:42:46am

re: #18 Iwouldprefernotto

If the law is thrown out and people are kicked off of their healthcare insurance, it will make Obama's case that reform was necessary. Of course insurance companies would probably wait until after the elections to eject their customers with preexisting conditions.

They would, technically, have to wait until the next policy anniversary date.

37 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:42:58am

All other issues aside, they way the mandate was implemented was very badly done. It never should have been designed in this manner. It should have been something like an increase in taxes with an exemption for having insurance or something similar, which would have been on much more solid footing in respect to the powers of the federal government.

38 iossarian  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:43:21am

re: #35 NJDhockeyfan

"If you get sick, America, the Republican health care plan is this: die quickly!"
~ Alan Grayson

So true.

39 jamesfirecat  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:43:22am

re: #5 NJDhockeyfan

How is this going to effect Obama's poll numbers if it's found unconstitutional?

Justices poised to strike down entire healthcare law

I can't see how it would make much of a difference. People who hate Obama would keep on hating him and people who support him would see this as a reason to redouble our efforts for single payer since clearly that is the only constitutional way to deal with this problem, well that or put immense pressure on our state governments).

Which way the eocnomy goes will make a bigger difference in my opinion.

40 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:43:31am

re: #35 NJDhockeyfan

"If you get sick, America, the Republican health care plan is this: die quickly!"
~ Alan Grayson

It was your guys who cheered at that debate question...

41 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:43:43am

re: #17 Killgore Trout

It will depend on what sections are deemed unconstitutional. If the individual mandate is struck down, that blows a huge revenue hole that can't be easily filled. That might kill related provisions, including the guaranteed issue and other insurance reforms. It wouldn't completely gut the reform, but it would undermine Congressional intent.

After all, some provisions of the PPACA are already operative notwithstanding the individual mandate that takes effect 01/01/2014. Those provisions would likely be retained.

All this assumes of course that the Court strikes down the mandate. Also, even if the mandate is struck down it might not kill other provisions since the Court - only offering up that it needs to resolve matters in a constitutional manner.

42 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:43:57am

re: #17 Killgore Trout

It's easy in concept. Tax it instead of sell it. or put it to the states-Pass the mandate or lose funding. Just like the old 55mph blackmail over highway funds. Legal as can be.

43 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:44:57am

re: #33 Killgore Trout

I'm not sure how the patriot acts fixes went through. I don't think it was a full congressional vote. I think it was either done in committee or by presidential order. I forget.

Don't forget the sun that never really sets on that.

44 Kragar  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:45:00am

Traveling through Time with Kirk Cameron: Looking at America through a Religious Right Lens

Cameron admitted that he is no history buff, telling his pastor, “I feel like a dry sponge when I learn all these things.”

Just as Cameron was a “dry sponge” when learning lessons about how the banana disproves evolution, he accepted the claims of Religious Right activists posing as historians at face value.

One of whom was Glenn Beck, who appeared via satellite feed. Cameron and Beck took turns complimenting each other, with the former Fox News host lauding Cameron, “You were in Left Behind while I was reading it.” Curiously, Cameron decided against attending Beck’s “Restoring Honor” rally after Brannon Howse, among others, warned evangelicals about joining forces with Beck, a Mormon.

Beck told Cameron that God told him that their mission to “wake up” America is a path they can’t veer from. “Return to me and I will protect you,” Beck says was God’s message, adding that God wants to be America’s “sword and shield.”

But the conservative celebrity appearances didn’t end there: Alveda King, Martin Luther King Jr.’s niece and a Religious Right activist, was in Cameron’s living room as well. Cameron asked her what she thought her uncle would want people to do if he were here today, to which Alveda responded that King would want people to watch Monumental!

She seems to think that King would endorse a movie that whitewashes America’s past, as Cameron determines that America’s problems only began in the last few decades.

45 blueraven  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:45:24am

re: #5 NJDhockeyfan

How is this going to effect Obama's poll numbers if it's found unconstitutional?

Justices poised to strike down entire healthcare law

Nobody knows how this is going to break.

46 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:45:40am

re: #41 lawhawk

It would seem from that item that Kennedy has already hopped onto the rescinding bandwagon, and he also agrees the law should be scrapped in toto. Right? He's the 5th vote.

47 makeitstop  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:47:30am

So, after all the debates and primaries and money spent, Mitt is still polling in the low 30s?

That's exactly where he was at the beginning of the Klown Show.

How much money did he spend to improve the brand, only to end up pretty much exactly where he started? I thought he was a Smart Businessman?

48 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:48:46am

Uh, I'm not sure how they can be "poised" to strike down the ACA, when they're not ruling for at least another month. That's a long time to stay "poised." Could result in a strained Achilles tendon.

49 jamesfirecat  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:48:57am

re: #47 makeitstop

So, after all the debates and primaries and money spent, Mitt is still polling in the low 30s?

That's exactly where he was at the beginning of the Klown Show.

How much money did he spend to improve the brand, only to end up pretty much exactly where he started? I thought he was a Smart Businessman?

Clearly Bain Capital needs to buy out his campaign, sell off the useful assets to other buyers and then let the whole shebang go bankrupt and cease to exist.

50 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:49:41am

re: #34 jaunte

That's where the 'broccoli' argument comes undone. No one makes a broccoli farmer give his produce to people who can't pay.

or buy other farmer's broccoli.

51 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:50:28am

re: #41 lawhawk

It will depend on what sections are deemed unconstitutional. If the individual mandate is struck down, that blows a huge revenue hole that can't be easily filled. That might kill related provisions, including the guaranteed issue and other insurance reforms. It wouldn't completely gut the reform, but it would undermine Congressional intent.

After all, some provisions of the PPACA are already operative notwithstanding the individual mandate that takes effect 01/01/2014. Those provisions would likely be retained.

All this assumes of course that the Court strikes down the mandate. Also, even if the mandate is struck down it might not kill other provisions since the Court - only offering up that it needs to resolve matters in a constitutional manner.

Agreed. Comments apparently made during arguments today notwithstanding, the Court striking down the entire bill would be rather shocking. Especially if they strike the Medicaid expansion as well. That could have wide reaching consequences across the board.

52 blueraven  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:50:52am

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Uh, I'm not sure how they can be "poised" to strike down the ACA, when they're not ruling for at least another month. That's a long time to stay "poised." Could result in a strained Achilles tendon.

The article is ridiculous on its face. This "reporter" assumes a lot.

53 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:52:45am

re: #15 iossarian

You can't have insurance because Clarence Thomas's wife needs another free holiday!

I just want to know why Clarence Thomas is even allowed to be part of the decision on this case, since he has such a blatant conflict of interest.

54 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:52:56am

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Uh, I'm not sure how they can be "poised" to strike down the ACA, when they're not ruling for at least another month. That's a long time to stay "poised." Could result in a strained Achilles tendon.

Well, to be fair, saying the Court is "poised" to rule in a certain manner is fairly common parlance with Court watchers.

55 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:53:22am

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Well, my tea leaves say X. Your chicken bones might differ /pick your poison

Divination of the Court's actions during oral arguments has gone to new levels with this case.

As you note, the decision wont be handed down until the end of the term, which is June so everyone is speculating what the court will do based on who said what and what questions were posed/responses.

56 Kragar  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:55:05am

San Diego Assemblyman Nathan Fletcher quits GOP

Fletcher, a lifelong Republican and former Marine, has been at odds with his party over the rights of gays to serve in the military, among other issues. Last year, he struck a deal with Assembly Democrats and Gov. Jerry Brown to make a change in state corporate tax formulas opposed by the Republican leadership.

His party shift is also a nod to the state’s new election rules, which diminish the importance of party affiliation. Instead of the top vote-getter in each party advancing to a fall run-off for legislative, congressional or statewide offices, the top two finishers, regardless of party, will face off head-to-head.

In an interview with the Associated Press on Tuesday, Fletcher said of his move: “In all candor, I probably should have done it sooner.”

57 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:55:12am

re: #55 lawhawk

Well, my tea leaves say X. Your chicken bones might differ /pick your poison

Divination of the Court's actions during oral arguments has gone to new levels with this case.

As you note, the decision wont be handed down until the end of the term, which is June so everyone is speculating what the court will do based on who said what and what questions were posed/responses.

I dunno. I'm pretty sure I can tell you which way Thomas will go right now, just based on oral arguments.
/

58 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:55:54am

re: #56 Kragar

San Diego Assemblyman Nathan Fletcher quits GOP

A sane Republican is a former Republican. //

59 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:56:32am

re: #58 'M AFFN FUN

A sane Republican is a former Republican. //

Are you saying I am sane?

60 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:57:22am

re: #59 ggt

Are you saying I am sane?

No, I... Yes.

61 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:58:08am

re: #57 Simply Sarah

I dunno. I'm pretty sure I can tell you which way Thomas will go right now, just based on oral arguments.
/

And the fact that one of the plaintiffs in the case paid his wife a quarter million dollars last year will have no bearing on how he rules.

none whatsoever.

/////

62 Kragar  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:58:09am

re: #59 ggt

Are you saying I am sane?

Kiwi Sherbert.

63 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:58:51am

re: #61 RadicalModerate

And the fact that one of the plaintiffs in the case paid his wife a quarter million dollars last year will have no bearing on how he rules.

none whatsoever.

///

Kagan has a conflict as well, I thought.

So, they cancel each other out.

64 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:59:36am
65 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:59:55am

Sen. DeMint: People With Pre-Existing Conditions Actually Got Better Health Care Before Obamacare

DEMINT: I can guarantee you people with pre-exisitng conditions are going to get less health care—lower quality health care—under Obamacare than they would under a state-run plan.

KEYES: Do you think they get less health care under Obamacare than they did before Obamacare was enacted?

DEMINT: They probably will. It will definitely cost more for everyone and it will be inefficient and it won’t be as patient-focused. And so we need to make sure that we do the thing the right way and there are ways that everyone can have insurance, and that’s our goal.

What a load of bullshit.

66 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:01:10am

re: #65 Varek Raith

Sen. DeMint: People With Pre-Existing Conditions Actually Got Better Health Care Before Obamacare

What a load of bullshit.

Like my girlfriend who priced her athsma inhalers from Canada to Mexico and ended-up getting them from Mexico?

67 Kragar  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:01:46am

Shocker: One of CA’s most promising young Republicans abandons GOP in midst of heated SD mayoral race (VIDEO)

California State Assemblyman and San Diego mayoral candidate Nathan Fletcher, seen as one of the California Republican Party’s most promising future possibilities for statewide office, announced today he’s abandoning the GOP and “partisan politics” to become an independent.

The defection of Fletcher, who served in the Marine Corps for more than a decade and is an Iraq war veteran as well as a spouse of a prominent GOP activist — Mindy Tucker Fletcher, the former campaign spokeswoman for George W. Bush — is an ominous sign for the state Republican Party.
...
In his message to voters, Fletcher references what he calls the divisive partisan battles he has fought in his own party.
“I don’t believe we have to treat people we disagree with as an enemy,” Fletcher says in his message. “I’ve fought in a war and I’ve seen the enemy. We don’t have enemies in our political environment here…but in today’s political environment, you’re expected to play the game.”

“I’ve been told by people in the Republican Party that I’m not very good at this…I could care less about playing the game.”

68 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:01:54am

I was a little disturbed that Ginsberg had trouble remembering words during the questioning yesterday.

69 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:02:07am

re: #61 RadicalModerate

And the fact that one of the plaintiffs in the case paid his wife a quarter million dollars last year will have no bearing on how he rules.

none whatsoever.

///

Speaking honestly, Thomas would be the Justice that it would make, by far, the least sense to try and "pay off" on this case. Based on his history in cases involving federal power of this type, there is and was basically a 0% chance that he would uphold the law. His Constitutional jurisprudence, while rather quirky at times, is generally very clear on this sort of thing.

70 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:02:24am

re: #63 ggt

Kagan has a conflict as well, I thought.

So, they cancel each other out.

Kagan's confilct was due to her being solicitor, and was representing the US government.

71 Lidane  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:02:43am

re: #65 Varek Raith

Sen. DeMint: People With Pre-Existing Conditions Actually Got Better Health Care Before Obamacare

What a load of bullshit.

DeMint is always full of shit. It's a talent.

72 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:03:17am

re: #71 Lidane

DeMint is always full of shit. It's a talent.

His name always remind me of the liquer.

Creme deMint?

LOL

73 SpaceJesus  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:03:43am

I hope Kennedy and Alito have smart clerks

74 iossarian  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:06:58am

re: #53 RadicalModerate

I just want to know why Clarence Thomas is even allowed to be part of the decision on this case, since he has such a blatant conflict of interest.

It's OK if you're conservative.

75 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:08:13am

Nobody is going to make a great effort to go out and vote for Mitt, but the GOP has managed to mobilize a lot of women (and supporters of women's rights) who are going to make an effort to get out and keep the GOP candidate out of the White House

76 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:11:25am

So, conservatives don't want government doing what they think private enterprise doing --a/k/a managing health care.

It's not only a capital ($) offense to them, but a constitutional issue.

If it were left to the States to administer, that would be ok, under the constitution.

am I getting this correct?

Which sounds ok, but we all know that when such social issues are left to the States, there is never equality.

If we put it under Federal Jurisdiction, then we have a further breakdown of our separation of powers (meaning the states vs federal) which is an important factor in deterring tyranny.

Am I still getting this correct?

77 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:11:46am

re: #66 ggt

Like my girlfriend who priced her athsma inhalers from Canada to Mexico and ended-up getting them from Mexico?

With no guarantee they are genuine, and no recourse if they are not.

78 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:12:34am

re: #77 wrenchwench

With no guarantee they are genuine, and no recourse if they are not.

she ain't dead yet . . .

:0

79 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:13:57am

I have no words whatsoever for this, because I would likely be banned if I expressed them.

Lawmaker wearing hoodie removed from House floor

Washington (CNN) -- A congressman was removed from the House floor Wednesday after giving a speech about Trayvon Martin while wearing a hoodie.

Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Illinois, told House members, "racial profiling has to stop."

Rush, a former Black Panther who was active in the civil rights movement in the 1960s, then took off his suit jacket, pulled a gray hoodie on over his head and put on sunglasses.

"Just because someone wears a hoodie does not make them a hoodlum," he said.

The congressman spoke during the morning session, when members are allowed to address any issue. He applauded young people across the country who are wearing hoodies to make a statement about Martin, the teen who was wearing a hooded sweatshirt when he was killed by a neighborhood watch volunteer in Sanford, Florida.

As soon as Rush removed his jacket and put the hood on his head, Rep. Greg Harper, R-Mississippi, who was presiding over the House floor, began to gavel Rush down, saying he was out of order.

80 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:14:25am

re: #78 ggt

she ain't dead yet . . .

:0

As long as she doesn't have to go pick them up in person.

81 Kragar  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:16:26am

Arlen Specter Made the Grossest Romney Analogy Yet

On Wednesday Sen. Arlen Specter kicked the bar way up (or rather, down) in the insulting imagery department by comparing the candidate to a "pornographic movie queen." Because he changes positions so often, you see.

82 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:17:30am

re: #79 RadicalModerate

I have no words whatsoever for this, because I would likely be banned if I expressed them.

Lawmaker wearing hoodie removed from House floor

The upside is that he got more publicity because of the way they shut him down.

He said the public debate over Martin's death was a continuation of the movement in which he participated during the 1960's. "This is just another part of the struggle. I've never left those days. Those days are deep down in my soul."

Noting that he was standing in the Capitol, Rush added, "Many people have given their lives so I can be here and once I got here I can't forget whose shoulders I'm standing on."

Good for him.

83 Lidane  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:17:54am

re: #79 RadicalModerate

I have no words whatsoever for this, because I would likely be banned if I expressed them.

Lawmaker wearing hoodie removed from House floor

On a related note:

NRA Introduces New Hoodies With Gun Pockets In Online Store

84 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:18:15am

re: #83 Lidane

I think it's just a coincidence.

85 Shvaughn  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:19:31am

Oh, for those of you who were following the "banned words on NYC standardized tests" story, I wrote to the Department of Education asking for the RFP, but unfortunately they don't send it out via email, only if I register as a "Vendor" (which I'm not willing to do).

Thank you for reaching out to the Finance Service Center for assistance on obtaining a copy of RFP R0911. Unfortunately we are unable to send copies of bids via email. These files are only available by ordering through your vendor portal account. There is no cost for downloading files. The advantage of ordering your solicitations through your Vendor Portal Account is that whenever there are any changes or amendments to the solicitation, you will automatically receive updates of the changes made.

To download a copy of an open bid, please sign in to your account at [Link: vendorportal.nycenet.edu....]

NOTE: If you do not have an account, you would need to register for one and your request will take approximately one business day to process.

86 Lidane  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:19:48am

re: #84 Obdicut

I think it's just a coincidence.

It's marked as new on their site. If it had been there before now, surely someone would have mentioned it.

87 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:20:24am

re: #86 Lidane

It's marked as new on their site. If it had been there before now, surely someone would have mentioned it.

Someone did mention it, a couple days ago.

88 Shvaughn  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:20:39am

re: #86 Lidane

Still a coincidence; they can't just add a new item to their catalog on a whim. It would have been in the pipeline for a while.

89 dragonfire1981  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:23:46am

re: #79 RadicalModerate

I have no words whatsoever for this, because I would likely be banned if I expressed them.

Lawmaker wearing hoodie removed from House floor

I just paged it: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Makes me ashamed to be from MS, I tell you.

90 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:29:16am

And yet another unbelievably sickening torrent of racist comments at Fox News today, in this article:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

This goes on every single day at Fox News.

92 SidewaysQuark  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:32:30am

Y'all think the Republican Party was a "clown car" THIS primary season? Wait until Obama wins and they all decide that it was because they STILL weren't "conservative enough" - then the SuperTea Party will come out.

93 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:33:54am

re: #90 Charles Johnson

And yet another unbelievably sickening torrent of racist comments at Fox News today, in this article:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

This goes on every single day at Fox News.

I fear what kind of comments are going to show up when they open comments for the story of Rep. Bobby Rush getting kicked off the House floor today for the unpardonable sin of donning a hoodie while making a speech regarding the Martin case.

94 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:34:29am

The amount of money Romney is spending I think indicates that we'll be seeing a lot more SuperPAC action, which he can't directly control. Could get weird.

95 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:42:49am

Rule #18: every congressman shall be dressed like a penguin.

96 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:49:35am

Pravda not a fan of Romney ...

[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

Is this the start of Putin giving the President some space?

97 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:51:26am

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Some food for thought: Here's the first four rules for forum commentary from another website:

DO NOT advocate or suggest any activity which is illegal under U.S. law.
Keep discussion civil and productive:
No profanity. Avoid racial epithets.
No personal flames.

The site? Stormfront.

That's right. The preeminent WN website in the United States has a more stringent commentary policy than FoxNews does.

98 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:52:57am

re: #96 _RememberTonyC

Pravda not a fan of Romney ...

[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

Is this the start of Putin giving the President some space?

And Putin is related to the irrelevant pravda.ru site how?

99 Lidane  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:53:23am

re: #92 SidewaysQuark

Y'all think the Republican Party was a "clown car" THIS primary season? Wait until Obama wins and they all decide that it was because they STILL weren't "conservative enough" - then the SuperTea Party will come out.

That's what worries me. What will these assclowns be like during a second Obama administration?

100 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:55:16am

re: #96 _RememberTonyC

I think it was because of the insanely stupid thing that Romney said. You can expect to hear him get shit from the Russians-- and from anyone with a lick of foreign policy sense-- for awhile.

101 Four More Tears  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:55:26am

re: #53 RadicalModerate

I just want to know why Clarence Thomas is even allowed to be part of the decision on this case, since he has such a blatant conflict of interest.

Because fuck you, that's why!

/

102 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:58:00am

re: #100 Obdicut

That blog post is ignorant as heck. Since when is Pravda.ru an "ex-Soviet newspaper"? Especially seeing how it's not a newspaper at all, but a news site.

103 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 11:59:08am

re: #96 _RememberTonyC

Pravda not a fan of Romney ...

[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

Is this the start of Putin giving the President some space?

You do realize that the post-Soviet Union version of Pravda is the Russian equivalent of the Weekly World News, don't you? Articles like you cite here are likely to run side-by-side with the latest "I married a space alien" story.

104 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:01:22pm

re: #103 RadicalModerate

You do realize that the post-Soviet Union version of Pravda is the Russian equivalent of the Weekly World News, don't you? Articles like you cite here are likely to run side-by-side with the latest "I married a space alien" story.

Not even that. Post-USSR version of Pravda is still an orthodox Communist newspaper. Here's it's site: [Link: www.gazeta-pravda.ru...]

Pravda.ru has nothing at all to do with the old official organ of the Communist Party (aside maybe for a few former Pravda journalists).

105 Four More Tears  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:01:29pm

re: #103 RadicalModerate

You do realize that the post-Soviet Union version of Pravda is the Russian equivalent of the Weekly World News, don't you? Articles like you cite here are likely to run side-by-side with the latest "I married a space alien" story.

They warned us that gay marriage would lead to this...

106 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:02:04pm

re: #102 'M AFFN FUN

Yeah, it's a little weird to think that people are so credulous, and don't even bother to look it up on Wiki. The writer of that article is rather sloppy.

107 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:02:56pm

re: #106 Obdicut

Yeah, it's a little weird to think that people are so credulous, and don't even bother to look it up on Wiki. The writer of that article is rather sloppy.

But the word is right there, in the URL, so it must be the same Pravda!! *drool*

108 SpaceJesus  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:11:39pm
109 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:11:53pm

re: #107 'M AFFN FUN

So how is freedom of the press in Russia, anyway? I've heard some stuff about things being suppressed, and certain about journalists getting killed.

110 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:19:12pm
111 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:19:21pm

re: #109 Obdicut

So how is freedom of the press in Russia, anyway? I've heard some stuff about things being suppressed, and certain about journalists getting killed.

There is a limited amount of freedom, especially online, but also in regard to some newspapers (e.g. cf. Novaya Gazeta). When there is a need to pressure, this is usually done by economic/"legal" means (e.g. through the infamous article 282 of the criminal code, accusation of "extremism" for the most absurd reasons). Journalists are killed from time to time, esp. in relation to Caucasus, although this is not some sort of state terrorism but rather a function of chaos/lawlessness.

112 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:19:59pm

The interesting thing about Romney is his continuing ability to have people dislike him in a apathetic not really caring kind of way. He doesn't inspire people to love him, nor does he inspire people to hate him. Generally, they're just... Meh. It's not Teflon, it's more like... I don't know, more like silly putty and newspaper comics. Attacks, his positions, people's opinions of him, they're all right on the surface, and easily removed and replaced with another surface impression.

Obama has the opposite problem, people have passion about him, both pro and anti. For whatever reason, and I'm not going to go into why here, The anti Obama crowd has totally lost their shit when it comes to anything Obama. Ultimately that 30% of the population wouldn't vote for Obama even if the alternative was *insert world war II dictator here*. Now, will they come out and vote for Romney? maybe, but, so far at least, there's no real drive and zeal for Romney.

The biggest danger for the republicans will be how short are Romney's coattails? will Republican meh about him depress turn out in the general election as it has with the Republican Primary? If it does, you could see some very surprising results in November.

113 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:23:00pm

re: #109 Obdicut

Oh, and TV is mostly in the crapper, since the federal channels are now state-controlled.

114 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:23:10pm

AWWW, BFF just stopped by w/her daughter and new grandson.

I got to see the baby!

nah, nah

115 SpaceJesus  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:28:26pm

Anybody in NYC know of anything particularly awesome going on this weekend by any chance?

116 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:29:13pm

re: #115 SpaceJesus

Anybody in NYC know of anything particularly awesome going on this weekend by any chance?

The people ride in a hole in the ground.

117 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:29:57pm

re: #115 SpaceJesus

Anybody in NYC know of anything particularly awesome going on this weekend by any chance?

I heard there was going to be this really awesome Party at your house. Journey is going to be playing live, open bar . . .

118 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:30:30pm

re: #116 Decatur Deb

The people ride in a hole in the ground.

On miles of strange, parallel metal.

119 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:30:58pm

re: #118 Varek Raith

On miles of strange, parallel metal.

is it magnetic?

120 I Am Kreniigh!  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:31:01pm

re: #31 Varek Raith

At that point the GOP will 'own' the messed up system.
Congrats to all those kicked off the new system!
Wait...

But no matter what consequences the right manages to pull down onto themselves (and the rest of us), there will always be a counter narrative somehow blaming it all on the left. Always.

You might like to think that TGOP supporters affected adversely by an Obamacare takedown -- losing their coverage because of pre-existing positions, falling off their parents' insurance -- would have an epiphany and turn on the party that caused it. But talk radio and Fox will have a narrative ready, bet on it. Somehow it will all be Obama's fault, the Democrats' fault.

I'm an Eeyore today.

121 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:31:16pm

re: #115 SpaceJesus

Anybody in NYC know of anything particularly awesome going on this weekend by any chance?

Central Park itself is always awesomesauce.

There's a revival of Jesus Christ Superstar. if you feel self-referential.

I suggest you go to the Highline.

Drop me a line if you want to grab a beer.

122 SpaceJesus  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:31:25pm

re: #117 ggt

I have more than a feeling that might be the case

123 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:31:30pm

re: #120 I Am Kreniigh!

But no matter what consequences the right manages to pull down onto themselves (and the rest of us), there will always be a counter narrative somehow blaming it all on the left. Always.

You might like to think that TGOP supporters affected adversely by an Obamacare takedown -- losing their coverage because of pre-existing positions, falling off their parents' insurance -- would have an epiphany and turn on the party that caused it. But talk radio and Fox will have a narrative ready, bet on it. Somehow it will all be Obama's fault, the Democrats' fault.

I'm an Eeyore today.

are you wearing your tail?

124 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:32:03pm

re: #119 ggt

is it magnetic?

Oddly, yes.
I smell a chem trail.

125 SpaceJesus  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:32:39pm

re: #121 Obdicut

Maybe. An old friend of mine who now studies in Haifa is in town for a biology conference of some kind. I think we will be drunk a lot. Staying at the Waldorf

126 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:34:37pm

The baby had on Michael Jordan gym shoes!!!!!!!

They were soooo tiny!

127 dragonath  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:35:27pm

re: #115 SpaceJesus

There's a Don Hertzfeldt exhibition going on at the IFC movie theater!

I'd like to see that...

128 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:35:59pm

re: #126 ggt

The baby had on Michael Jordan gym shoes!!!

They were sooo tiny!

Please tell me these shoes do not cost as much as real Michael Jordan shoes.

129 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:38:03pm

re: #128 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Please tell me these shoes do not cost as much as real Michael Jordan shoes.

NO idea, first baby, first grandson. I have a feeling there is a Grandfather or two who are quite thrilled.

130 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:38:03pm

re: #126 ggt

The baby had on Michael Jordan gym shoes!!!

They were sooo tiny!

Toddler will beat his ass for those kicks.

131 Kragar  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:38:40pm

re: #115 SpaceJesus

Anybody in NYC know of anything particularly awesome going on this weekend by any chance?

I would make a suggestion, but I'll have to plead the fifth.

132 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:39:27pm

re: #129 ggt

NO idea, first baby, first grandson. I have a feeling there is a Grandfather or two who are quite thrilled.

I figured out early on that cute baby clothes are for the adults. Babies just want soft and warm.

That said, the day after I gave birth to The Princess, I went out and bought the fluffiest, pinkest dress I could find.

133 Lidane  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:39:57pm

re: #112 bloodstar

The interesting thing about Romney is his continuing ability to have people dislike him in a apathetic not really caring kind of way. He doesn't inspire people to love him, nor does he inspire people to hate him. Generally, they're just... Meh.

The Onion: Mitt Romney's Goal To Connect With One Voter By The Time This Is All Over

134 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:40:17pm

re: #132 Mostly sane, most of the time.

I figured out early on that cute baby clothes are for the adults. Babies just want soft and warm.

That said, the day after I gave birth to The Princess, I went out and bought the fluffiest, pinkest dress I could find.

Well, I'm glad I splurged on it when my son was little. I'm not even allowed in his room now.

135 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:41:28pm

He had on a bright plaid shirt and baby demin shorts.

OMG! He wouldn't wake-up, so I couldn't take him out of the bucket.

I wanted to soooooooooo bad.

136 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:42:51pm

I'm off for the afternoon.

Have a great one all!

137 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:46:50pm

re: #132 Mostly sane, most of the time.

I figured out early on that cute baby clothes are for the adults. Babies just want soft and warm.

That said, the day after I gave birth to The Princess, I went out and bought the fluffiest, pinkest dress I could find.

My daughter-in-law recently gave birth to her 5th child--a 4th daughter. She confided to me that she felt she had disappointed her husband (my son) by not giving him another son.

I said, "Did my son make you feel that way? I WILL KICK HIS ASS SO HARD HIS BUTT CHEEKS WILL HAVE TEETH IN THEM."

Then I suggested, "you know my daughter has just given birth to her 4th son and I know she wanted a girl. Why don't you just trade with her?"

She said "NO, I LOVE MY BABY! I would never trade her!"

I said, "Ha ha!"

138 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:52:27pm

re: #137 Learned Mother of Zion

My daughter-in-law recently gave birth to her 5th child--a 4th daughter. She confided to me that she felt she had disappointed her husband (my son) by not giving him another son.

I said, "Did my son make you feel that way? I WILL KICK HIS ASS SO HARD HIS BUTT CHEEKS WILL HAVE TEETH IN THEM."

Then I suggested, "you know my daughter has just given birth to her 4th son and I know she wanted a girl. Why don't you just trade with her?"

She said "NO, I LOVE MY BABY! I would never trade her!"

I said, "Ha ha!"

Then I went to "Janie and Jack" and bought a bunch of expensive frilly girly layette stuff.

139 Sionainn  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 12:59:52pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

And yet another unbelievably sickening torrent of racist comments at Fox News today, in this article:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

This goes on every single day at Fox News.

The local AM radio wingnut host has said for the past two days that Spike Lee needs to be "whipped."

140 leftynyc  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 1:10:07pm

re: #115 SpaceJesus

Anybody in NYC know of anything particularly awesome going on this weekend by any chance?

Are you looking for music/arts - inside/outside?

141 leftynyc  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 1:11:53pm

re: #125 SpaceJesus

Maybe. An old friend of mine who now studies in Haifa is in town for a biology conference of some kind. I think we will be drunk a lot. Staying at the Waldorf

Wow - fancy schmancy. I once had Buyers in town who stayed there in a 2 bedroom suite. We got wasted and flew paper airplanes out the window.

142 SpaceJesus  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 1:14:56pm

re: #141 leftynyc

Heh. I actually got a real good deal, that is, if they will let me in the place

143 SpaceJesus  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 1:16:01pm

re: #140 leftynyc

Anything. We both really like classic cocktails, and she wants places to eat that aren't Middle Eastern. I've been googling good places to eat in Little Italy, Chinatown etc.

144 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 1:20:07pm

re: #143 SpaceJesus

Anything. We both really like classic cocktails, and she wants places to eat that aren't Middle Eastern. I've been googling good places to eat in Little Italy, Chinatown etc.

I'm a million years out of town, but I think the Top of the Sixes is still right down the street from you. Used to be good food (could have changed), but really sold the view (hasn't changed, now that the Towers are gone).

145 leftynyc  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 1:33:59pm

re: #143 SpaceJesus

Anything. We both really like classic cocktails, and she wants places to eat that aren't Middle Eastern. I've been googling good places to eat in Little Italy, Chinatown etc.

For classic cocktails - the Oak Room at the Plaza is always a treat. Harry Cipriani is right across the street for some excellent food or right there is the entrance to Central Park and you can go get some hot dogs or pretzels while going to the zoo. It's also not terribly far from the Waldorf.

146 simoom  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 1:51:10pm

Another Poll from today (CNN/ORC) shows a double-digit general election match-up lead:

[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

If the general election were held today instead of in early November, 54% of registered voters say they would back Obama, with 43% supporting former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, the front-runner in the GOP nomination battle. That's up from a five-point 51%-46% advantage the president held over Romney in February.

And Obama would have a 55%-42% lead over Santorum, the former senator from Pennsylvania who's Romney's main rival right now for the nomination. The president led Santorum by a seven-point 52%-45% margin last month.

"President Obama currently wins majority support among groups that have been problematic for him in the past, including men, older voters, and suburbanites," says CNN Poling Director Keating Holland. "He has a solid lead among independents as well."

Still extremely wary of all the current early polling -- just have a gut feeling the election is going to be a brutal slog.

147 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 4:04:40pm

re: #146 simoom

Another Poll from today (CNN/ORC) shows a double-digit general election match-up lead:

[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

Still extremely wary of all the current early polling -- just have a gut feeling the election is going to be a brutal slog.

So was the last one. When people say this election will tough, it makes me laugh. Like electing a black man named Barack Hussein Obama was easy the first time around. The odds of Obama being reelected are better then they were of him being elected back in 2007 when he announced his first candidacy for 2008. It won't be easy, but it a little perspective. LGF wasn't exactly pro-Obama back then either.

The crazy on the right may be much louder and more obvious, but all of these crazy fuckers voted in the last election too and a lot more people actually liked John McCain then they like Romney. We just have to make sure that our people get out and vote.

148 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 28, 2012 4:10:46pm

re: #147 moderatelyradicalliberal

So was the last one. When people say this election will tough, it makes me laugh. Like electing a black man named Barack Hussein Obama was easy the first time around. The odds of Obama being reelected are better then they were of him being elected back in 2007 when he announced his first candidacy for 2008. It won't be easy, but it a little perspective. LGF wasn't exactly pro-Obama back then either.

The crazy on the right may be much louder and more obvious, but all of these crazy fuckers voted in the last election too and a lot more people actually liked John McCain then they like Romney. We just have to make sure that our people get out and vote.

Agreed--but I'm really worried about the voter suppression laws. They are impacting registration now, even if they are all booted later.

149 Stephen T.  Thu, Mar 29, 2012 5:28:05am

re: #76 ggt

So, conservatives don't want government doing what they think private enterprise doing --a/k/a managing health care.

It's not only a capital ($) offense to them, but a constitutional issue.

If it were left to the States to administer, that would be ok, under the constitution.

am I getting this correct?

Which sounds ok, but we all know that when such social issues are left to the States, there is never equality.

If we put it under Federal Jurisdiction, then we have a further breakdown of our separation of powers (meaning the states vs federal) which is an important factor in deterring tyranny.

Am I still getting this correct?

Close but not quite there yet. If it were left to the States to administer, that would be OK only if the states administered it in the way (social) conservatives wished. Take the state run health care in Mass. Even though it is popular and successful there are members of the GOP in Mass that continue to oppose it. Here's another, any state that opens up marriage to same sex couples is seen as "doing it wrong."


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1934 Had Worst Drought of Last Thousand Years-We Made It Worse
"It was the worst by a large margin, falling pretty far outside the normal range of variability that we see in the record," said climate scientist Ben Cook at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York. Cook ...

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The Scablands: A scarred landscape as strange as fiction
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I Stand With Big Sodomy!
Daniel Johnston-True Love Will Find You In The End.
A simple, imperfect, brilliant song, by a fascinating man. Link

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High Court Lifts Hold on Gay Marriage in Idaho
[large]YES![/large] WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court says same-sex marriage can go ahead in Idaho. More: High Court Lifts Hold on Gay Marriage in Idaho [large]YES![/large]

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 Frank says:

Get smart and I'll f*ck you over, sayeth The Lord.