Rick Santorum is giving another seemingly interminable concession speech, so here’s an open thread to discuss the Mitt Romney juggernaut.
Santorum’s family looks awfully sad on that stage behind him, but they should look on the bright side. Now he has more time to work on getting creationism into science classes.
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jaunte Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:27:00pm |
Goodbye, thou "California-universities-do-not-teach-American-history" fatuous liar.
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Lidane Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:31:28pm |
re: #3 austin_blue
How is The Inevitable Mittens doing?
Still trying to connect with just one voter before this is all over.
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Kragar Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:31:38pm |
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Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:32:47pm |
Santorum knows he's toast, but he's not yet ready to admit it.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:34:06pm |
re: #6 Charles Johnson
Santorum knows he's toast, but he's not yet ready to admit it.
That became obvious awhile back. But with Paul and Newt still holding on in hopes of forcing a brokered convention, I'm not sure if Santorum will drop out now.
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Kragar Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:34:09pm |
re: #4 Lidane
Still trying to connect with just one voter before this is all over.
Jon Stewart Jokes About Romney’s Tepid Endorsements
Mitt Romney has lined up a handsome collection of Republican endorsements. But Jon Stewart on Monday couldn’t help noticing: they’re not all that enthusiastic. “Romney’s gonna be the nominee, everybody’s decided. What they haven’t really decided is why,” he said.
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Lidane Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:34:50pm |
re: #6 Charles Johnson
Santorum knows he's toast, but he's not yet ready to admit it.
He can't admit it yet because the wingnuts can't accept it yet.
As soon as Santorum drops out, Mittens is the winner. Much wailing and gnashing of teeth will follow.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:37:13pm |
It was kind of awesome to hear President Obama call the GOP agenda "social Darwinism" today. That's exactly what's going on.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:37:28pm |
re: #8 Kragar
It's Kerry all over again, the guy who people are supporting because he's the least controversial of those running.
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Lidane Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:37:55pm |
re: #10 Charles Johnson
It was kind of awesome to hear President Obama call the GOP agenda "social Darwinism" today. That's exactly what's going on.
It was even more awesome to hear all the wingnut heads explode after he laid into them. Heh.
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Kragar Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:40:18pm |
re: #12 Lidane
It was even more awesome to hear all the wingnut heads explode after he laid into them. Heh.
"HE INVOKED THE NAME OF SAINT REAGAN YET DID NOT BURST INTO FLAME! WHAT DEVILRY BE THIS?!?!"
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Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:40:56pm |
MSNBC just called Wisconsin for Romney. It's all over but the shouting.
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Lidane Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:41:15pm |
re: #11 Targetpractice
It's Kerry all over again, the guy who people are supporting because he's the least controversial of those running.
Mittens is the "Eh. He'll do." candidate. He's the least shitty option in a slate of shitty options.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:41:22pm |
re: #14 Charles Johnson
MSNBC just called Wisconsin for Romney. It's all over but the shouting.
And there will be plenty of that between now and the convention. Mostly of four-letter words.
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Lidane Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:42:17pm |
re: #16 Targetpractice
And there will be plenty of that between now and the convention. Mostly of four-letter words.
Lots of begging and pleading for a brokered convention, or a mysterious White Knight coming in to save the party from itself. Hahaha.
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:42:33pm |
re: #11 Targetpractice
It's Kerry all over again, the guy who people are supporting because he's the least controversial of those running.
TofumentumMittmentum!
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Achilles Tang Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:43:23pm |
re: #10 Charles Johnson
It was kind of awesome to hear President Obama call the GOP agenda "social Darwinism" today. That's exactly what's going on.
Wasn't it Newt, the day before yesterday more or less, who called it social engineering? Like the weather in some places, if you don't like it now, just wait a while and it will be something else.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:43:26pm |
That sound you hear is the entire right wing base swallowing their pride and getting ready to vote for Mitt Romney.
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Kragar Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:43:34pm |
re: #11 Targetpractice
It's Kerry all over again, the guy who people are supporting because he's the least controversial of those running.
"We have voted enough."
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:45:24pm |
re: #19 Flame Fin Tomini Tang
Wasn't it Newt, the day before yesterday more or less, who called it social engineering? Like the weather in some places, if you don't like it now, just wait a while and it will be something else.
The president was harsh...but his examples were all real stuff that the (R) machine would like to stick down the memory hole now that they're not convienient.
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Mich-again Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:45:35pm |
I say Santorum looks just like Bob from the Church of the Sub-Genius without the pipe. Praise his sweet name you Slackers..
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:46:14pm |
re: #19 Flame Fin Tomini Tang
Wasn't it Newt, the day before yesterday more or less, who called it social engineering? Like the weather in some places, if you don't like it now, just wait a while and it will be something else.
IIRC, Newt spoke rather harshly of the Ryan Budget last year, but that was before he threw his hat into the presidential race.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:46:18pm |
Juggernaut? Mitt Romney's campaign is hardly a a Juggernaut. its more like a car with three wheels that is constantly shifting between drive and reverse, but it is still doing the best because the other cars are completely broken down.
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:46:37pm |
re: #6 Charles Johnson
Santorum knows he's toast, but he's not yet ready to admit it.
He's playing for 2016 at this point, sees that the most important thing in the GOP nominating process is being perceived as next in line. This strategy has the intended bonus effect of weakening Romney's brand going into the general. Even though he is becoming perceived as being motivated mostly by spite there's still little long term downside for him, since the social conservatives that are supporting him hate Mitt with an equal if not greater passion.
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jaunte Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:48:07pm |
Paul Ryan claiming President Obama can't run on his record.
March auto sales up 13 percent, recovery quickens
(The U.S. stock market is also near four-year highs)
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:48:19pm |
re: #25 jamesfirecat
Juggernaut? Mitt Romney's campaign is hardly a a Juggernaut. its more like a car with three wheels that is constantly shifting between drive and reverse, but it is still doing the best because the other cars are completely broken down.
The Romney campaign has been a "juggernaut" in only one respect: It has enough money to bomb its opponents out of existence. He's outspent those he's run against, but most of his "wins" have been hard fought for even then.
Even then, there's been rumor of donor fatigue starting to set in, that most of those bankrolling his campaign expected this to be a quick fight and now are afraid that they'll max out their donation limits before he can even get to the convention.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:49:18pm |
I highly recommend that everyone look up the history of "social Darwinism," because the parallels to today's GOP are really striking.
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jaunte Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:50:08pm |
OFA_LA: “If you truly value families, you shouldn’t play politics with a woman’s health.”—@BarackObama [Link: t.......] bit.ly/HQYbgi
— usdemocrats (@usdemocrats) April 4, 2012
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:51:13pm |
re: #29 Charles Johnson
I highly recommend that everyone look up the history of "social Darwinism," because the parallels to today's GOP are really striking.
For the sake of convienience, Social Darwinism:
Social Darwinism is a term commonly used for theories of society that emerged in England and the United States in the 1870s, seeking to apply the principles of Darwinian evolution to sociology and politics.[1] It especially refers to notions of struggle for existence being used to justify social policies which make no distinction between those able to support themselves and those unable to support themselves. The most prominent form of such views stressed competition between individuals in laissez-faire capitalism; but it is also connected to the ideas of eugenics, scientific racism, imperialism,[2] fascism, Nazism and struggle between national or racial groups.[3][4]
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:51:31pm |
Santorum’s family looks awfully sad on that stage behind him, but they should look on the bright side. Now he has more time to work on getting creationism into science classes.
With every silver lining comes a frickin' storm cloud. :sigh:
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Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:52:23pm |
Mitt Romney is suddenly very concerned about single mothers.
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:52:58pm |
Santorum’s family looks awfully sad on that stage behind him, but they should look on the bright side. Now he has more time to work on getting creationism into science classes.
Nonsense. Isn't he going the Romney four-year-primary path? If not, why else hasn't he quit yet?
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Mich-again Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:53:09pm |
Romney's on record saying GM and Chrysler should have gone through bankruptcy without government involvement, which is to say they should have been liquidated. And with that particularly stupid view, He forfeited the rust belt States which means he won't win the WH. Oh he'll try to change what he said, but he's damaged goods around here.
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Robert O. Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:53:56pm |
The question is who will Romney choose as his running mate?
I am not sure he will pick an economic conservative (Ryan, Christie, Rubio) because he already has a big problem reassuring the vagina-politics crowd. They won't vote for Obama, but even a few of them staying home will cost him badly needed votes. After all that has happened in the primaries, Santorum or Perry are out of question. Palin has no chance either. A resurrection of Huckabee?
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:54:33pm |
re: #25 jamesfirecat
Juggernaut? Mitt Romney's campaign is hardly a a Juggernaut. its more like a car with three wheels that is constantly shifting between drive and reverse, but it is still doing the best because the other cars are completely broken down.
The Romney Robin?
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Kragar Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:55:35pm |
re: #33 Charles Johnson
Mitt Romney is suddenly very concerned about single mothers.
Etch-a-Sketch time.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:55:43pm |
re: #35 Mich-again
Romney's on record saying GM and Chrysler should have gone through bankruptcy without government involvement, which is to say they should have been liquidated. And with that particularly stupid view, He forfeited the rust belt States which means he won't win the WH. Oh he'll try to change what he said, but he's damaged goods around here.
He's tried to rewrite history, saying that he felt that they should have gone through "normal" bankruptcy proceedings, ignoring the very real fact at the time that nobody was willing to front that sort of cash as the economy was crashing and the credit crunch had kneed even the most rock-solid companies in the groin. If the government hadn't stepped in, we'd have seen the liquidation of the Big Three, as Ford would have been in bankruptcy once GM and Chrysler had gone under.
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jaunte Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:56:00pm |
Car elevator guy accuses President of being out of touch with real people. No, seriously. #Romney
— Chips (@___Chips___) April 4, 2012
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TedStriker Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:56:03pm |
re: #15 Lidane
Mittens is the "Eh. He'll do." candidate. He's the least shitty option in a slate of shitty options.
He's the turd with a "clean" end.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:56:32pm |
re: #35 Mich-again
Romney's on record saying GM and Chrysler should have gone through bankruptcy without government involvement, which is to say they should have been liquidated. And with that particularly stupid view, He forfeited the rust belt States which means he won't win the WH. Oh he'll try to change what he said, but he's damaged goods around here.
Mitt to Detroit: Fuck You
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:56:48pm |
re: #36 Robert O.
The question is who will Romney choose as his running mate?
I am not sure he will pick an economic conservative (Ryan, Christie, Rubio) because he already has a big problem reassuring the vagina-politics crowd. They won't vote for Obama, but even a few of them staying home will cost him badly needed votes. After all that has happened in the primaries, Santorum or Perry are out of question. Palin has no chance either. A resurrection of Huckabee?
My money's on McDonnell, as he hits the GOP VP trifecta: Male, Southern, and Redneck.
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Mich-again Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:57:01pm |
re: #39 Targetpractice
Exactly. You'd think a guy with so much experience as a vulture capitalist would know that.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:58:04pm |
re: #44 Mich-again
Exactly. You'd think a guy with so much experience as a vulture capitalist would know that.
The GOP as a whole's banking on mass voter amnesia to help them out at the polls.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:58:35pm |
re: #36 Robert O.
A resurrection of Huckabee?
Huck, Circa 2008: "Dear members of the press, my campaign staff made this really nasty, mud-slinger of a hit piece commercial about Mitt Romney, but I've decided not to air it on television after all. Would you and your camera crews like to see it anyway?"
Yeah, I don't think it'll be Huck. Still, this season has been truly weird. I suppose there's enough room left for some more weirdness.
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:58:53pm |
re: #33 Charles Johnson
Mitt Romney is suddenly very concerned about single mothers.
Concern troll concerned?
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:59:15pm |
re: #46 Targetpractice
The GOP as a whole's banking on mass voter amnesia to help them out at the polls.
And voter disenfranchisement.
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Four More Tears Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:59:16pm |
Mitt: "Where dreamers can have car elevators..."
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BishopX Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:59:33pm |
re: #43 Targetpractice
He's too interesting...Romney is going for someone boring...otherwise he'll get upstaged. Palin proved how dangerous interesting VP picks can be.
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Mich-again Tue, Apr 3, 2012 6:59:51pm |
I wonder if Condi would team up with Mitt if he asked or if she'd politely decline.
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:00:46pm |
re: #46 Targetpractice
The GOP as a whole's banking on mass voter amnesia to help them out at the polls.
Though they'll help the process along by lying shamelessly about the past and throwing a screaming fit when someone cites evidence of what was actually said and done.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:00:51pm |
re: #51 BishopX
He's too interesting...Romney is going for someone boring...otherwise he'll get upstaged. Palin proved how dangerous interesting VP picks can be.
That's just it, they gotta pull the Palin move of finding somebody for the VP slot who can boost enthusiasm amongst the base. They go for somebody as bland as Romney, the base will just stay home Election Day.
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jaunte Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:01:10pm |
"Apologizing for America abroad" gets a big hand.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:01:12pm |
re: #52 Mich-again
I wonder if Condi would team up with Mitt if he asked or if she'd politely decline.
She'd decline. She's not interested in politics anymore and she's way too smart to be window dressing. Plus, she's knows the GOP has gone crazy in the last three years.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:02:12pm |
re: #55 jaunte
"Apologizing for America abroad" gets a big hand.
I can't wait for the POTUS to rip into that lying sack of shit. I'll bet he can't wait either.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:02:48pm |
re: #57 moderatelyradicalliberal
I can't wait for the POTUS to rip into that lying sack of shit. I'll bet he can't wait either.
If his speech today is any indication, he's warming up already.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:03:06pm |
re: #54 Targetpractice
Here's my bet: Romney is going to try and win over the moderate and liberal voters by using a time machine to bring the Romney of 2004 back to the future to be his running mate.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:03:43pm |
re: #52 Mich-again
I wonder if Condi would team up with Mitt if he asked or if she'd politely decline.
Condi will announce she has become a Democrat.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:04:55pm |
Absolutely no substance in Romney's victory speech ... just platitudes and wingnut talking points.
"Join me. Walk together. We believe in ourselves." Not to put too fine a point on it, but it's pure-D bullshit.
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jaunte Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:05:00pm |
24 straight months of economic growth, vs. reducing the deficit by making the poor pay for it.
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Four More Tears Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:05:14pm |
re: #59 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks
Here's my bet: Romney is going to try and win over the moderate and liberal voters by using a time machine to bring the Romney of 2004 back to the future to be his running mate.
shake shake shake
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:06:02pm |
re: #56 moderatelyradicalliberal
She'd decline. She's not interested in politics anymore and she's way too
smartavaricious to be window dressing. Plus, she's knows the GOP has gone crazy in the last three years.
FTFY.
Palin likes media showmanship. There's no hard-and-fast standards on acceptable behavior, you can throw red meat and lie with few repercussions, and the money's easy to sock away by straddling the for-profit/non-profit line.
Whoops. Crossed two streams in the thread. Disregard comment.
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Four More Tears Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:07:23pm |
re: #61 Charles Johnson
Absolutely no substance in Romney's victory speech ... just platitudes and wingnut talking points.
"Join me. Walk together. We believe in ourselves." Not to put too fine a point on it, but it's pure-D bullshit.
A couple of primaries ago some pundit remarked that he sounded like he was giving the opening speech for the Fargo Real Estate Agent convention. Sounds like a Carville comment now that I think on it...
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:08:17pm |
re: #64 The Ghost of a Flea
FTFY.
Palin likes media showmanship. There's no hard-and-fast standards on acceptable behavior, you can throw red meat and lie with few repercussions, and the money's easy to sock away by straddling the for-profit/non-profit line.
We were talking about Condi Rice.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:08:21pm |
re: #62 jaunte
24 straight months of economic growth, vs. reducing the deficit by making the poor pay for it.
It's the logical continuation of an economic policy that's been in place for 30+ years, with the exception of a brief 8 year blip that they prefer not to talk about.
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Mich-again Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:08:29pm |
re: #62 jaunte
24 straight months of economic growth, vs. reducing the deficit by making the poor pay for it.
The GOP plan fix the deficit by shrinking the economy won't work.
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Four More Tears Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:09:11pm |
re: #65 moderatelyradicalliberal
LOL!
[Link: twitpic.com...]
Photo ops like that are almost insulting. Stop pretending that you're like us! It's not helping!
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:10:36pm |
Queue another four years of the Right Wing bitching about how they only lost because their candidate "Was Not Conservative Enough." Their delusion is only going to get worse if Obama is re-elected, their millionaire media sources will be more than happy to continue pandering to their ignorant and racist fears in order to receive even more money from them.
Expect more violence and even more hate.
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:12:45pm |
re: #67 moderatelyradicalliberal
We were talking about Condi Rice.
My bad.
Your analysis makes total sense.
I have a hard time seeing Condi signing on the with Romney...or the current crop of Republicans. The way they've turned on her...and also on everything GWB did...as RINO is both foul and opportunistic.
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Kragar Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:12:47pm |
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:13:18pm |
re: #71 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Queue another four years of the Right Wing bitching about how they only lost because their candidate "Was Not Conservative Enough."
The beatings inward spiral shall continue until morale improves.
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Stanghazi Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:13:28pm |
re: #70 Altar Boy of Darwinism
Photo ops like that are almost insulting. Stop pretending that you're like us! It's not helping!
EXACTLY. His fricken kids never worked at a place like that. Fakarama
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:14:10pm |
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TedStriker Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:15:45pm |
re: #29 Charles Johnson
I highly recommend that everyone look up the history of "social Darwinism," because the parallels to today's GOP are really striking.
re: #31 The Ghost of a Flea
For the sake of convienience, Social Darwinism:
Sounds a bit like the policies that caused and exacerbated the Irish potato famine, though that happened a couple of decades before "social Darwinism" was coined.
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TedStriker Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:17:16pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:17:22pm |
re: #71 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
That's kinda why I was rooting for Santorum. Just so I could see the religious right eat that gawt-damned "not conservative enough" shit sandwich when he lost the general.
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Stanghazi Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:17:33pm |
re: #76 moderatelyradicalliberal
Game face.
If the Dems can dream, he's gonna drop the nice guy act and attack the lies. Hell, the indies will appreciate it. It's been a tough time dealing with the lies & slime.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:17:36pm |
re: #74 erik_t
The
beatingsinward spiral shall continue until morale improves.
Damnit if only we had nominated Hitler!
/uhh, yeah, oops, "accidental" Godwin. :p
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austin_blue Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:18:01pm |
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jaunte Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:19:24pm |
Well, this is new. A republican who wants no taxes and hates unions. #p2 #romney
— Joseph J. Santorsa (@Marnus3) April 4, 2012
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:21:08pm |
re: #82 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Damnit if only we had nominated Hitler!
/uhh, yeah, oops, "accidental" Godwin. :p
Not sufficiently outspoken on his love of baby Jesus.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:21:59pm |
Yeah, Romney had to pander to the base to get the nomination, then he will pander to the voters-at-large and lose in November.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:22:32pm |
re: #83 austin_blue
They didn't take personal responsibility for starving to death.
Well it is pretty obvious, Irish papist sin, therefore the potato blight, if only they had been willing to renounce Catholicism and thereby save themselves...
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:24:05pm |
Dr. Rice is not stupid.
She will not be be running for anything for a long time, if ever.
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:24:23pm |
In case you forgot:
Congratulations to President Obama for clinching the Democratic Party's Presidential nomination tonight! I was on the edge of my seat, I was.
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Stanghazi Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:25:19pm |
re: #87 ggt
Yeah, Romney had to pander to the base to get the nomination, then he will pander to the voters-at-large and lose in November.
THE MOST FUN WILL BE THE VP PICK!!!! Lol, how long will we have to wait!??!!!!
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:27:33pm |
re: #91 Hoodies for Justice. T
THE MOST FUN WILL BE THE VP PICK!!! Lol, how long will we have to wait!??!!!
No, I don't find it fun. It is excruciatingly disgusting to watch poltics, for me anyway. I want it over.
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Kragar Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:27:48pm |
re: #91 Hoodies for Justice. T
THE MOST FUN WILL BE THE VP PICK!!! Lol, how long will we have to wait!??!!!
I think we need a series of debates to vet all possible VP picks.
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:28:05pm |
re: #91 Hoodies for Justice. T
THE MOST FUN WILL BE THE VP PICK!!! Lol, how long will we have to wait!??!!!
Depends on when Romney thinks he badly needs a media cycle reboot. I assume the vetting (lol jk) has already begun.
So aside from the latter, same as last year.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:28:30pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:28:38pm |
re: #93 Kragar
I think we need a series of debates to vet all possible VP picks.
Not just no, but HELL NO!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:30:06pm |
re: #96 Targetpractice
Not just no, but HELL NO!
But...but...we should make Condi get on stage with them, just so we can watch the expression on her face...
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Kragar Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:30:35pm |
re: #95 ggt
OH PLEEZE, no.
We can get Sarah Palin to moderate the first debate, David Barton for the second, Bryan Fischer for the third...
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:31:10pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:31:28pm |
re: #89 ggt
Dr. Rice is not stupid.
She will not be be running for anything for a long time, if ever.
Looking back at it now I think Condi and Powell were the obvious choices to continue the Republican party. They were both thrown under the bus but Bush got the same treatment too.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:31:47pm |
re: #10 Charles Johnson
It was kind of awesome to hear President Obama call the GOP agenda "social Darwinism" today. That's exactly what's going on.
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Stanghazi Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:31:52pm |
re: #94 erik_t
Depends on when Romney thinks he badly needs a media cycle reboot. I assume the vetting (lol jk) has already begun.
So aside from the latter, same as last year.
Who's our next fuck up dark horse? Lieberman, I hear is no where. Like really, when's the last time HE disparaged the President?
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Four More Tears Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:31:55pm |
Ouch. Romney broke election law in WI by giving away those free sandwiches?
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:32:23pm |
re: #102 Hoodies for Justice. T
Who's our next fuck up dark horse? Lieberman, I hear is no where. Like really, when's the last time HE disparaged the President?
Liberman, also I think, is too smart.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:33:29pm |
re: #98 Kragar
We can get Sarah Palin to moderate the first debate, David Barton for the second, Bryan Fischer for the third...
Alright, that's it. For your crimes against all common decency, you are to be exiled to Rura Penthe!
//
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:34:07pm |
Well that sucks, the tig welds on the back of my computer desk chair just broke, now I have two metal tubes sticking up and no back rest.
Sigh, there goes another $90-120...crap. :(
/sympathy dings are always welcome ;)
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Stanghazi Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:34:22pm |
re: #93 Kragar
I think we need a series of debates to vet all possible VP picks.
That would be better Than 2008. She's an actress! Stop trying to teach her, GIVE HER CUE CARDS!!
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:34:55pm |
re: #78 talon_262
re: #31 The Ghost of a Flea
Sounds a bit like the policies that caused and exacerbated the Irish potato famine, though that happened a couple of decades before "social Darwinism" was coined.
Hm...not speaking with the weight of research and citation, but:
In a lot of ways Social Darwinism was just a re-styling of ideas already present, but given a "scientific" sheen by being affiliated with Darwin. The conclusions drawn ignored large chunks of Darwins' work--in particular his ideas about the benefit of social cooperation--and some versions were downright Lamarckian in their assertion that "the poors would breed people destined to be poor because heredity." Really, it was just waving out the word "evolution" as an excuse for the existing status quo in social status and economics. The other thing is that "Social Darwinism"--call it Malthusian or Spencerian thinking, or whathaveyou--was a fantastic post hoc reasoning for why an event was not only inevitable, but that passivity was not only an acceptable response to ugly and lethal tragedies, but that inaction was the morally right response.
I don't know enough about the Potato Famine to venture much beyond the fact that the British did similar things in India: keep a colonial exporting foodstuffs even as the local population starved.
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Kragar Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:36:04pm |
re: #101 Patronizing Laugh Track
Companies provide goods and services. They hire enough people to make it profitable. If people don't have the money to buy the goods and services, the companies have no reason to expand and create new jobs. "Job creation" based on giving them tax breaks is snake oil.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:36:37pm |
re: #106 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Well that sucks, the tig welds on the back of my computer desk chair just broke, now I have two metal tubes sticking up and no back rest.
Sigh, there goes another $90-120...crap. :(
/sympathy dings are always welcome ;)
That happened to me about a year ago but then I remembered the Lazy Boy I had stashed in the basement. I've been comfortably surfing the web ever since. Fuck office chairs.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:37:18pm |
re: #110 Killgore Trout
That happened to me about a year ago but then I remembered the Lazy Boy I had stashed in the basement. I've been comfortably surfing the web ever since. Fuck office chairs.
Works well with a laptop --not so much with a tower and screen.
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:37:53pm |
re: #105 Targetpractice
Alright, that's it. For your crimes against all common decency, you are to be exiled to Rura Penthe!
//
Pft. Rura Penthe is the Club Fed of Klingon gulags.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:37:56pm |
re: #98 Kragar
We can get Sarah Palin to moderate the first debate, David Barton for the second, Bryan Fischer for the third...
Hey!
Pat Robertson should obviously moderate the second debate, it would be quite entertaining when he denounces one of the candidates as a servant of the anti-Christ about 20 minutes into the debate format.
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:38:28pm |
re: #100 Killgore Trout
Looking back at it now I think Condi and Powell were the obvious choices to continue the Republican party. They were both thrown under the bus but Bush got the same treatment too.
I cannot take seriously any member of the Bush Cabinet who didn't resign for their own sanity/decency.
So I guess this does leave Powell.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:38:48pm |
re: #111 ggt
Works well with a laptop --not so much with a tower and screen.
Works fine with my desktop. I love it.
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Stanghazi Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:39:14pm |
re: #100 Killgore Trout
Looking back at it now I think Condi and Powell were the obvious choices to continue the Republican party. They were both thrown under the bus but Bush got the same treatment too.
When rove and ailes are behind the current crew, no.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:39:19pm |
re: #107 Hoodies for Justice. T
That would be better Than 2008. She's an actress! Stop trying to teach her, GIVE HER CUE CARDS!!
Somebody watched "Game Change"...
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efuseakay Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:39:27pm |
re: #91 Hoodies for Justice. T
THE MOST FUN WILL BE THE VP PICK!!! Lol, how long will we have to wait!??!!!
We should all guess who he will pick... I think he's going to go for Christie.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:40:22pm |
re: #109 Kragar
Companies provide goods and services. They hire enough people to make it profitable. If people don't have the money to buy the goods and services, the companies have no reason to expand and create new jobs. "Job creation" based on giving them tax breaks is snake oil.
Thankfully, the GOP did us the kind deed of hitching tax cuts up to gutting Medicare, making the fight against them all the easier.
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Stanghazi Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:40:25pm |
re: #118 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Somebody watched "Game Change"...
I believe it. What has she ever said off the script.
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:40:37pm |
re: #119 efuseakay
We should all guess who he will pick... I think he's going to go for Christie.
No chance. It's Rubio or bust.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:41:45pm |
re: #120 Targetpractice
Thankfully, the GOP did us the kind deed of hitching tax cuts up to gutting Medicare, making the fight against them all the easier.
Don't see it. Not only is Christie too "moderate" for the base's tastes, but he also has made clear that he has no intent to run this year. Being VP to Romney would be one massive albatross around his neck come 2016.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:42:06pm |
re: #106 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Well that sucks, the tig welds on the back of my computer desk chair just broke, now I have two metal tubes sticking up and no back rest.
Sigh, there goes another $90-120...crap. :(
/sympathy dings are always welcome ;)
When I registered my non-profit, one of my first home office purchases was a nice, comfy office chair.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:42:09pm |
It's funny how interested we are in the VP choice, given that VP is normally a completely useless job.
You ought to be able to hold it and another position, like person in charge of answering mail, or official cake decorator, or gardener.
Then you'd be moderately useful.
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:44:57pm |
re: #125 Mostly sane, most of the time.
It's funny how interested we are in the VP choice, given that VP is normally a completely useless job.
You ought to be able to hold it and another position, like person in charge of answering mail, or official cake decorator, or gardener.
Then you'd be moderately useful.
Romney's VP will have the important role of holding the positions that Romney isn't holding at that particular moment.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:45:38pm |
re: #122 erik_t
No chance. It's Rubio or bust.
He helps Romney by bringing a fresh face to the ticket, but nothing else. He certainly couldn't carry Florida, the base would lambaste him for not being a "Real 'Merikan!," and his comments on immigration reform won't drown out the screams of "Deport them all!"
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:48:07pm |
re: #127 Targetpractice
He helps Romney by bringing a fresh face to the ticket, but nothing else. He certainly couldn't carry Florida, the base would lambaste him for not being a "Real 'Merikan!," and his comments on immigration reform won't drown out the screams of "Deport them all!"
Romney's going to need someone with top-tier credentials in Gay-Hating and Free-Market-Jesus Loving.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:49:34pm |
re: #128 The Ghost of a Flea
Romney's going to need someone with top-tier credentials in Gay-Hating and Free-Market-Jesus Loving.
He needs someone that people love and that they connect to in an emotional way.
He needs someone to get the base excited.
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:49:39pm |
re: #127 Targetpractice
He has nominal foreign-policy credentials, he miiiiiiight help flip Florida red, and some idiots think that he could bridge the Latino gap.
It's not for nothing that I've been seeing a shit-ton of 'Rubio Endorses Romney' ads paid for by Mitt's campaign.
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Stanghazi Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:50:14pm |
re: #128 The Ghost of a Flea
Romney's going to need someone with top-tier credentials in Gay-Hating and Free-Market-Jesus Loving.
Gah, who?
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Stanghazi Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:51:15pm |
re: #129 Mostly sane, most of the time.
He needs someone that people love and that they connect to in an emotional way.
He needs someone to get the base excited.
Taylor Swift?
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Stanghazi Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:52:16pm |
re: #129 Mostly sane, most of the time.
He needs someone that people love and that they connect to in an emotional way.
He needs someone to get the base excited.
Who is that?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:52:43pm |
re: #133 Hoodies for Justice. T
Who is that?
If I knew that, they'd already be the presidential nominee.
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:53:04pm |
re: #129 Mostly sane, most of the time.
He needs someone that people love and that they connect to in an emotional way.
He needs someone to get the base excited.
Given the base's priorities, we're talking about the same thing.
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:55:16pm |
Hee hee
US Senate candidate and former sportscaster Craig James will be interviewed on the Todd Klein show on Lubbock's KRFE radio tomorrow. Big deal, you might say.
It just happens though that it was Craig's son Adam who was involved in the incident that led to the firing of popular football coash Mike Leach a couple of years ago. James complained that Leach denied his son medical treatment and had him shut in a small dark room after the younger James sustained a head injury during practice. The university investigated and Leach was given the boot from his $2M a year job. Leach has many, many rabid admirers in these parts, and many of them blame James for the coach's downfall. Only Judas Iscariot is more vilified in Lubbock, and he's dead.
Comments on Todd's Facebook page.
Break out the slime cleaner! Don't get to close to him Todd. That slime he has to sell doesn't come off your clothes. Will he be delivered by garbage truck? He's a Perry flunky. James & Perry were conspiring to get Coach Leach fired because Coach Leach teams beat A&M regularly.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:55:30pm |
re: #134 Mostly sane, most of the time.
If I knew that, they'd already be the presidential nominee.
Well Dick Cheney isn't doing anything much at the moment I hear...neither is Karl Rove.
///lol
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:56:15pm |
re: #136 Shiplord Kirel
Hee hee
US Senate candidate and former sportscaster Craig James will be interviewed on the Todd Klein show on Lubbock's KRFE radio tomorrow.
Will he comment on the alleged five dead hookers?
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:56:40pm |
re: #130 erik_t
He has nominal foreign-policy credentials, he miiight help flip Florida red, and some idiots think that he could bridge the Latino gap.
It's not for nothing that I've been seeing a shit-ton of 'Rubio Endorses Romney' ads paid for by Mitt's campaign.
I don't see the foreign policy creds, he's got no guarantee of bringing one of the major Florida voter blocs with him, and the Latinos will kick his ass over supporting a watered-down version of the DREAM Act.
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:58:19pm |
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:58:48pm |
re: #139 Targetpractice
I don't see the foreign policy creds, he's got no guarantee of bringing one of the major Florida voter blocs with him, and the Latinos will kick his ass over supporting a watered-down version of the DREAM Act.
1) He's on the Senate Foreign Relations and Intelligence Committees, which is vaguely better than being some Olympic committee dude, I guess.
2) Handwave something something not Al Gore!
3) But... Cubans are representative of all Latinos!!!1
To be clear, I think he's a weak-as-shit VP choice. This makes him superior to anybody else I can think of.
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Stanghazi Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:58:49pm |
re: #129 Mostly sane, most of the time.
He needs someone that people love and that they connect to in an emotional way.
He needs someone to get the base excited.
Still thinking.
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Mentis Fugit Tue, Apr 3, 2012 7:59:35pm |
re: #29 Charles Johnson
I highly recommend that everyone look up the history of "social Darwinism," because the parallels to today's GOP are really striking.
Strictly speaking, it should be called "Social Lamarckianism" as it's based on the inheritance of acquired characteristicswealth.
Now Municipal Darwinism, that's another kettle of steampunk.
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:00:37pm |
re: #137 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Well Dick Cheney isn't doing anything much at the moment I hear...neither is Karl Rove.
///lol
Cheney would at least have a heart this time around.
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:01:11pm |
re: #140 Shiplord Kirel
Only five?
The Senatorial campaign has not yet commented on the rumor that Craig James killed five hookers at SMU.
Did Craig James kill five hookers at SMU? I'm not sure, but Google sure has a lot of results about 'did Craig James kill five hookers at SMU?'
I hope Craig James will soon address the hateful and disgusting rumors that Craig James killed five hookers at SMU.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:01:39pm |
re: #100 Killgore Trout
Looking back at it now I think Condi and Powell were the obvious choices to continue the Republican party. They were both thrown under the bus but Bush got the same treatment too.
They've both made unambiguous public statements about race that preclude them from any significant future with today's GOP. Then again, your definition of "obvious" seems to be "nebulously discernible if squinted at through arbitrarily precalibrated filters" so never mind.
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:03:36pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:04:45pm |
re: #141 erik_t
1) He's on the Senate Foreign Relations and Intelligence Committees, which is vaguely better than being some Olympic committee dude, I guess.
2) Handwave something something not Al Gore!
3) But... Cubans are representative of all Latinos!!!1To be clear, I think he's a weak-as-shit VP choice. This makes him superior to anybody else I can think of.
Really, only thing I could see in Rubio's favor is that there's nothing about him that's deal-breaking. He's a "kid" in the GOP pool who's resume is about as short as Obama's was in '08. Really, it's arguable that he could even really bring much enthusiasm to the ticket.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:05:30pm |
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Mich-again Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:05:37pm |
re: #136 Shiplord Kirel
I got my kid's HS football coach fired this past Fall. And my kid was the starting quarterback. Oh that was a lot of fun. He was even on TV news around here a few times. He picked the wrong dad to f* with.
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:06:14pm |
re: #145 erik_t
The Senatorial campaign has not yet commented on the rumor that Craig James killed five hookers at SMU.
Did Craig James kill five hookers at SMU? I'm not sure, but Google sure has a lot of results about 'did Craig James kill five hookers at SMU?'
I hope Craig James will soon address the hateful and disgusting rumors that Craig James killed five hookers at SMU.
Craig James (Sort Of) Addresses That "Google Bomb" About Those "Five Dead Hookers"
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Stanghazi Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:06:33pm |
re: #149 Targetpractice
Really, only thing I could see in Rubio's favor is that there's nothing about him that's deal-breaking. He's a "kid" in the GOP pool who's resume is about as short as Obama's was in '08. Really, it's arguable that he could even really bring much enthusiasm to the ticket.
He's also lied in his pandering. Puleeze. The Cuban bloc is only Part Of florida. He lied and they've grown.
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:07:43pm |
re: #152 Mich-again
I got my kid's HS football coach fired this past Fall. And my kid was the starting quarterback. Oh that was a lot of fun. He was even on TV news around here a few times. He picked the wrong dad to f* with.
Did you hire Spaeth Communications (of Swift Boat fame) in order to mis/over-represent your concerns in order to get the coach fired?
Because that happened.
(I am glad you dealt with an asshole who deserved it, but Craig James is a fucking dirtbag)
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Stanghazi Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:08:26pm |
re: #153 Shiplord Kirel
Craig James (Sort Of) Addresses That "Google Bomb" About Those "Five Dead Hookers"
Not clicking, but isn't this a horrible sports smear? Geeze
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Stanghazi Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:09:35pm |
re: #155 erik_t
Did you hire Spaeth Communications (of Swift Boat fame) in order to mis/over-represent your concerns in order to get the coach fired?
Because that happened.
(I am glad you dealt with an asshole who deserved it, but Craig James is a fucking dirtbag)
Ok, now I'm researching.
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Mich-again Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:13:42pm |
re: #155 erik_t
No I just contacted the MHSSA in Lansing about his violations and they investigated and told the school either get rid of him or the program would be suspended. He was pushing creatine on the kids and telling them they needed to take it every day, he was dressing assistant coaches in pads to hit kids in drills, having year round practices with the whole team before and after school, and quite a few more. It really blew up when a pregame speech featured him referring to the other team from Detroit as a bunch of backyard N--ers from Detroit. When I told him he was out of line, he took it out on the kid. There is a lot more to the story..
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jaunte Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:14:09pm |
re: #159 windupbird is in the gravity well
"Serving under Kirk for many years, Uhura developed a great respect for him, both as a starship captain and a person. On stardate 5784.2, under the influence of powerful telepaths, Uhura was forced to kiss him. (TOS: "Plato's Stepchildren")
The kiss between Kirk and Uhura became famous, as it was the first kiss between an African-American and a Caucasian portraying fictional characters on American "episodic" television. The scene was seen as groundbreaking, even though the kiss was portrayed as having been forced by alien mind control.
According to her 1994 autobiography Beyond Uhura, the scene was, at the behest of NBC executives worried that Southern affiliates might refuse to air the episode, filmed with and without the kiss, but Nichols and Shatner consciously sabotaged the non-kiss takes so that there would be no choice but to leave the kiss in the final version."
[Link: en.memory-alpha.org...]
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:14:17pm |
re: #159 windupbird is in the gravity well
ONLY VULCANS DO THAT AND VULCANS AREN'T IN THE UNITED STATES OF 'MURRICA SOMEBODY SEND THIS TO SHERIFF JOE
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Four More Tears Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:15:55pm |
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:17:13pm |
re: #162 erik_t
ONLY VULCANS DO THAT AND VULCANS AREN'T IN THE UNITED STATES OF 'MURRICA SOMEBODY SEND THIS TO SHERIFF JOE
You know there's at least one wingnut out there who sees Star Trek as propaganda for a one-world government that takes away your gun.
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Mich-again Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:18:38pm |
re: #164 The Ghost of a Flea
You know there's at least one wingnut out there who sees Star Trek as propaganda for a one-world government that takes away your gun.
Complete with a diverse crew compliments of affirmative action.
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jaunte Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:20:30pm |
re: #164 The Ghost of a Flea
I think most of them would trade their guns for a working Holodeck.
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Mich-again Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:20:38pm |
re: #161 jaunte
I remember when Sammy Davis Jr. kissed Archie Bunker on All In The Family. That might have been the 2nd interracial kiss on TV.
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:20:47pm |
re: #163 Altar Boy of Darwinism
Mankind has spent a combined 235,000 years playing Halo.
Holy shit.
[Link: www.gamespot.com...]
That explains crude image of Master Chief on the back wall of Lescaux Cave.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:21:52pm |
re: #163 Altar Boy of Darwinism
Mankind has spent a combined 235,000 years playing Halo.
... and has probably spent a combined billion years bitching about The Kids These Days.
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:24:17pm |
re: #170 Patronizing Laugh Track
... and has probably spent a combined billion years bitching about The Kids These Days.
Sum internet porn viewing and it's age of the universe chopped into trillions of two to five minute intervals.
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jaunte Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:25:11pm |
A renewed assault on science in Oklahoma
...on March 28, 2012, Steve Russell (R-District 45) proposed to amend HB 2341 with the addition of a new section containing the language of HB 1551, encouraging teachers to present the "scientific strengths and scientific weaknesses" of "controversial" topics such as "biological evolution" and "global warming."
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:26:01pm |
re: #163 Altar Boy of Darwinism
Mankind has spent a combined 235,000 years playing Halo.
Holy shit.
[Link: www.gamespot.com...]
*snorts* Master Chief ain't got nothin' on Commander Shepard.
/
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Four More Tears Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:26:11pm |
re: #171 The Ghost of a Flea
Sum internet porn viewing and it's age of the universe chopped into trillions two to five minute intervals.
Well, most of it gets the fast-forward treatment...
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:29:34pm |
re: #156 Hoodies for Justice. T
Not clicking, but isn't this a horrible sports smear? Geeze
There is a similar but less serious claim about former Tech AD Gerald Myers, who actually fired Leach. Myers is well known for his somewhat sour disposition and demeanor: "The only time Coach Myers ever smiled was when he ran over a puppy on the way to work."
(Myers is 75 and a hard-shell Baptist to boot so he has precious little reason to smile in any case.)
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:30:41pm |
re: #175 Shiplord Kirel
I have to assume at this point that you're either a denizen of West Texas or a Washington State fan.
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Ming Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:30:46pm |
Mrs. Santorum now has the time to work on another medical lawsuit. She raked in $175,000 from a previous one, against her chiropractor.
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jaunte Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:32:12pm |
Romney's message, "Sorry, you have no other choice," seems to be gaining traction with voters.
— Andy Borowitz (@BorowitzReport) April 4, 2012
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:33:16pm |
re: #176 erik_t
I have to assume at this point that you're either a denizen of West Texas or a Washington State fan.
I live on a farm near Wolfforth, TX, which is near Lubbock; that is, the middle of nowhere, and I like it that way.
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:33:20pm |
re: #175 Shiplord Kirel
There is a similar but less serious claim about former Tech AD Gerald Myers, who actually fired Leach.
It is convenient to note that Mike Leach was due a low-seven-figure bonus were he retained through the New Year; he was fired on December 30th.
Curious.
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efuseakay Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:34:27pm |
re: #20 Charles Johnson
That sound you hear is the entire right wing base swallowing their pride and getting ready to vote for Mitt Romney.
It's not their pride they are swallowing...
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:34:28pm |
re: #180 erik_t
It is convenient to note that Mike Leach was due a low-seven-figure bonus were he retained through the New Year; he was fired on December 30th.
Curious.
An amazing coincidence, to be sure, simply amazing.
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freetoken Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:48:31pm |
re: #162 erik_t
ONLY VULCANS DO THAT AND VULCANS AREN'T IN THE UNITED STATES OF 'MURRICA SOMEBODY SEND THIS TO SHERIFF JOE
So now we know why Obama doesn't have a legit birth certificate!
He was born on Vulcan.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:48:51pm |
re: #183 freetoken
So now we know why Obama doesn't have a legit birth certificate!
He was born on Vulcan.
*arches eyebrow* Fascinating.
/
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:57:00pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:58:39pm |
re: #185 The Ghost of a Flea
Top Romney Surrogate: In General Election, Women Will See Romney’s ‘Real Views’
Pathetic.
It's like a meta-election
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Lidane Tue, Apr 3, 2012 8:59:53pm |
re: #185 The Ghost of a Flea
Top Romney Surrogate: In General Election, Women Will See Romney’s ‘Real Views’
Pathetic.
Because it's a total selling point to admit that your candidate is full of shit now and will only change his views later on.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:00:17pm |
the delegate from Spaceississippi votes for Romney Build 45.8.1
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:01:13pm |
re: #188 Lidane
Because it's a total selling point to admit that your candidate is full of shit now and will only change his views later on.
What i love is how insulting it is to republicans
it's like he's just rubbing their nose in it. 'I'm totally fake! And I'm the only game in town! Suck it, GOP!"
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jaunte Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:01:44pm |
Romney is treating the prospect of being POTUS like it's a slightly more appealing option than falling asleep in front of a CSI rerun.
— Maggie Serota (@maggieserota) April 4, 2012
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:01:55pm |
re: #185 The Ghost of a Flea
Top Romney Surrogate: In General Election, Women Will See Romney’s ‘Real Views’
Pathetic.
"Don't worry ladies, once he's done pandering to the Bible thumpers, he'll happily pander to you too!"
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Lidane Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:04:13pm |
re: #190 windupbird is in the gravity well
What i love is how insulting it is to republicans
I'm pretty sure this entire election cycle is insulting to anyone who considers themselves a sane Republican. The GOP simply doesn't function as a political party right now. They're just reacting to whatever President Obama does, even if they previously supported the idea.
it's like he's just rubbing their nose in it. 'I'm totally fake! And I'm the only game in town! Suck it, GOP!"
True. That part is amusing. Once he wins, they can't do a damn thing about it except blame him for not being conservative enough if he loses.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:06:08pm |
re: #193 Lidane
I'm pretty sure this entire election cycle is insulting to anyone who considers themselves a sane Republican. The GOP simply doesn't function as a political party right now. They're just reacting to whatever President Obama does, even if they previously supported the idea.
True. That part is amusing. Once he wins, they can't do a damn thing about it except blame him for not being conservative enough if he loses.
The GOP decided that, since (in their opinion) Obama can't "run on his record," they'll put forth a candidate who's spent years running away from his.
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freetoken Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:06:15pm |
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jaunte Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:06:59pm |
re: #185 The Ghost of a Flea
Top Romney Surrogate: In General Election, Women Will See Romney’s ‘Real Views’
Pathetic.
I just don't see how he's going to manage to unsay what he's said on such a short timeline.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:11:16pm |
It really is sad times for the GOP. They have a presidential candidate that nobody in their party really wants, their big issue (the economy) is slipping from them with each passing month, they've pissed off virtually every voting bloc except the old white male bloc, and they're reduced to hoping that shit gets bad (economy tanks or ACA overturned) just to have something to run on.
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:13:42pm |
re: #197 Lidane
And an Etch-a-Sketch.
I got tired of the robocalls the other day and wrote down the local Romney HQ phone number at the end of the message. I took to calling their line after every robo call and saying
Please stop calling me. I do not vote against my self interest. Even if I did, I would not be dumb enough to vote for Mittens McEtch-a-sketch. Thank you.(click)
Didn't do any good, but it made me feel better.
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Interesting Times Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:13:58pm |
re: #190 windupbird is in the gravity well
What i love is how insulting it is to republicans
it's like he's just rubbing their nose in it. 'I'm totally fake! And I'm the only game in town! Suck it, GOP!"
Mitt Sandwich™ - now with 30% less principle!
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:15:27pm |
re: #189 windupbird is in the gravity well
the delegate from Spaceississippi votes for Romney Build 45.8.1
Is that version .03.05 or did they jump the version number to .04 for that build?
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:17:12pm |
re: #196 jaunte
I just don't see how he's going to manage to unsay what he's said on such a short timeline.
At this point I wonder less about Romney and more about how terrible his handlers and spokespeople are.
Beyond the ethical dimension that drives me "center left" (and sometimes way left), there's the flinty part of my soul that appreciates the craftsmanship of a well-played con job. The latter part is just utterly contemptuous of Romney.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:18:42pm |
re: #196 jaunte
I just don't see how he's going to manage to unsay what he's said on such a short timeline.
Don't think it's gonna be possible. Certainly not when he has to keep the base from either going third party or just blowing off this election.
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freetoken Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:18:52pm |
Is Romney is doomed?:
Romney fields hostile question on Mormonism
A Green Bay voter confronted Mitt Romney over his religion at a town hall Monday, the day before Wisconsin's primary. Romney is a life long member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, whose members are commonly called Mormons.
"I guess my question is, do you believe it's a sin for a white man to marry and procreate with a black?" asked Bret Hatch, a 28-year old Ron Paul supporter from Green Bay.
[...]
Speaking with reporters after the event, Hatch, the questioner, said he believed his question was relevant considering the general election race against President Barack Obama.
"Either he believes the Book of Mormon or he doesn't," Hatch said. "I think that's an important issue. He's going up against a black guy! He's going against Obama. This is a racial issue."
The LDS Church has a troubled history on racial issues, and in 1978 lifted a ban on blacks serving in the priesthood.
Romney's father, former Michigan Gov. George Romney, publicly disagreed with his church over its record on civil rights.
Mormonism is more a rock around his neck than a boost to his career, I think. There are some non-Mormons out there who might like the fact that Romney is a religious man, but Mormonism has baggage.
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Interesting Times Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:20:57pm |
re: #190 windupbird is in the gravity well
By the way, the Daily Show guest tonight was the man who runs SCOTUSblog and also argued the case against "frivolous strip searches just because the cops feel like abusing their authoritay". As I'm sure you know, he lost 5-4 thanks to the RATS (Roberts, Alito, Thomas, Scalia) and Kennedy the Corporatist.
Let's just say I'm suddenly a lot more sympathetic to your views of the police, and even less desiring of setting foot in the US anytime soon :/
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:23:25pm |
re: #202 The Ghost of a Flea
Beyond the ethical dimension that drives me "center left" (and sometimes way left), there's the flinty part of my soul that appreciates the craftsmanship of a well-played con job. The latter part is just utterly contemptuous of Romney.
I fully agree. If the guy is so goddamned awful at basic retail politics, how can I trust him to do things that are actually hard?
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Lidane Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:26:21pm |
re: #206 erik_t
I fully agree. If the guy is so goddamned awful at basic retail politics, how can I trust him to do things that are actually hard?
Or to have any backbone while doing it. The guy is thoroughly unprincipled.
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Four More Tears Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:28:28pm |
re: #204 freetoken
Is Romney is doomed?:
Romney fields hostile question on Mormonism
Mormonism is more a rock around his neck than a boost to his career, I think. There are some non-Mormons out there who might like the fact that Romney is a religious man, but Mormonism has baggage.
O'Donnell had a segment tonight about Mitt trying to hang Atheism around Obama's neck. I doubt it's going to work.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:31:19pm |
re: #204 freetoken
Is Romney is doomed?:
Romney fields hostile question on Mormonism
Mormonism is more a rock around his neck than a boost to his career, I think. There are some non-Mormons out there who might like the fact that Romney is a religious man, but Mormonism has baggage.
Oh, screw it. Mike Huckabee flat-out said he wanted to rewrite the Constitution to make it match up with the Bible, and these folks didn't care then. Now they're all concerned about what Romney believes about interracial marriage?
Shenanigans.
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dragonath Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:31:58pm |
But... but... Jesse Helms told me that Atheism led to Communism and what's worse... liberalism!
hehe the Republican message is so played out
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Lidane Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:33:23pm |
re: #209 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, screw it. Mike Huckabee flat-out said he wanted to rewrite the Constitution to make it match up with the Bible, and these folks didn't care then. Now they're all concerned about what Romney believes about interracial marriage?
Shenanigans.
Mitt apparently believes in the "wrong" mythical sky father. The same people who cheered Huckabee wanting to impose a theocracy on America hate Mitt because they think Mormons are barely a half-step above Satanists.
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Kragar Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:33:57pm |
re: #210 Beware the Green Dragon!
But... but... Jesse Helms told me that Atheism led to Communism and what's worse... liberalism!
hehe the Republican message is so played out
Pff, everyone knows Atheism leads to an Islamic theocracy.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:34:20pm |
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Kragar Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:35:34pm |
re: #213 Targetpractice
...wait, what?
Gingrich fears 'atheist country ... dominated by radical Islamists'
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:35:58pm |
re: #208 Altar Boy of Darwinism
O'Donnell had a segment tonight about Mitt trying to hang Atheism around Obama's neck. I doubt it's going to work.
I actually feel uncomfortable with hitting Mitt with Mormonism. And in this specific case...while CoLDS might not always be my cup of tea, they actually did address the racism in the Book of Mormon in an open fashion.
Mormonism, I suspect, will be a larger millstone with the Religious Right than with liberals of assorted creeds and ideologies.
I however think it's gutless and deceitful to fear-monger about secularism. Mitt never had my vote, but his statement today made me lose even more respect for him. He'll really say anything.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:36:33pm |
From commenter Rael1964 on RawStory, responding to the guy Soledad O'Brien interviewed:
(Brief background, this guy claims that there were eight recent burglaries in the area Trayvon Martin was shot in, perpetrated by 'young black males'. Unfortunately, what no one can figure out is how that detail is known, seeing as there were arrests in only one of these cases.)
Encyclopedia Brown in The Case of the Republican Reprobate Racists
CASE: The Sanford Skinheads are about to play the Lefty Libs, but the umpire can't make it to the game due to car trouble. One of the Libs' parents, a computer salesman, volunteers to ump the game after declaring he was an umpire in the majors for three years. He immediately begins to make unfavorable calls towards the Skinheads (it is always implied that the children of Sanford learn their racist ways through their parents). When the ump dusts off the plate, some of the parents start hurling insults. When Encyclopedia reads the back of the ump's shirt with the message, "Don't go wrong when you buy a Krumm computer," that he realizes the ump is a fraud. At that point, George Zimmerman guns down an unarmed "young black male" for daring to possess a bag of Skittles in his neighbor-hood.
SOLUTION: If you thought there was something to do with computers here, well, that's exactly what you are supposed to think. Encyclopedia's "proof": umpires are trained to face the crowd when they dust off the plate in the majors, where it's considered bad manners to show your back to the crowd. But in Sanford, it's acceptable to gun down "young black males" in cold blood. Furthermore, Zimmerman's racist friend Frank "Pull My" Taaffee claims that no less than EIGHT burglaries were committed by "young black males," yet he also claims that only one was apprehended. How did he know they all were black if seven of them were never apprehended?
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Lidane Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:37:10pm |
re: #213 Targetpractice
...wait, what?
Bryan Fischer-- Secular sharia: Imam Obama to Christians: convert, submit or go to prison
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:37:27pm |
re: #215 The Ghost of a Flea
I actually feel uncomfortable with hitting Mitt with Mormonism. And in this specifc case...while CoLDS might not always be my cup of tea, they actually did address the racism in the Book of Mormon in an open fashion.
Mormonism, I suspect, will be a larger millstone with the Religious Right than with liberals of assorted creeds and ideologies.
I however think it's gutless and deceitful to fear-monger about secularism. Mitt never had my vote, but his statement today made me lose even more respect for him. He really say anything.
I have no patience for trying to make Mitt's campaign about Mormonism, for several different reasons.
This does not make me like Mitt any.
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Targetpractice Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:37:31pm |
re: #211 Lidane
Mitt apparently believes in the "wrong" mythical sky father. The same people who cheered Huckabee wanting to impose a theocracy on America hate Mitt because they think Mormons are barely a half-step above Satanists.
Not that Obama will hit him on that, or would be a damn fool if he did. Best to sit back and watch the party's religious win tear itself apart.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:38:15pm |
re: #217 Lidane
Bryan Fischer-- Secular sharia: Imam Obama to Christians: convert, submit or go to prison
Isn't this the same guy who thinks non-Christians should have to convert? Cognitive dissonance much Fischer?
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erik_t Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:38:21pm |
re: #217 Lidane
Bryan Fischer-- Secular sharia: Imam Obama to Christians: convert, submit or go to prison
Secular Imams always demand that you non-convert to their non-religion, you know.
Fucking idiots don't even listen to themselves talk.
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Four More Tears Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:42:11pm |
re: #215 The Ghost of a Flea
I actually feel uncomfortable with hitting Mitt with Mormonism. And in this specific case...while CoLDS might not always be my cup of tea, they actually did address the racism in the Book of Mormon in an open fashion.
Mormonism, I suspect, will be a larger millstone with the Religious Right than with liberals of assorted creeds and ideologies.
I however think it's gutless and deceitful to fear-monger about secularism. Mitt never had my vote, but his statement today made me lose even more respect for him. He'll really say anything.
Yeah, I don't give a damn about his religion either. I'm not going to hang all of the details about his faith around his neck. Many will, but it's no different than believing that all Muslims must want their women to be wearing burkas.
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:44:28pm |
re: #220 HappyWarrior
Isn't this the same guy who thinks non-Christians should have to convert? Cognitive dissonance much Fischer?
re: #221 erik_t
Secular Imams always demand that you non-convert to their non-religion, you know.
Fucking idiots don't even listen to themselves talk.
The best explanation I've ever encountered for this phenomenon is from the blog slacktivist. The author explains in one of his Left Behind pages that Real, True Christians--his term for the wingnutty, politicized Christians that listen to people like Fischer--seem to imagine that all other religions are just flimsy shells of Not-Christianity with no differentiable parts. As such non-RTCs are all either (1) completely naive dupes that haven't encountered the blazing truth of Real, True, Christian or (2) are apostates clinging to a false ideology because of their hate of Real, True, Christianity.
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Mich-again Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:44:51pm |
I look forward to watching GOP religious radicals attack Mitt for being outside the WASP nest and torpedoing his campaign in the process.
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jaunte Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:45:31pm |
re: #217 Lidane
Bryan Fischer-- Secular sharia: Imam Obama to Christians: convert, submit or go to prison
It's sad when mental patients are left uncared for.
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:46:42pm |
re: #224 Mich-again
I look forward to watching GOP religious radicals attack Mitt for being outside the WASP nest and torpedoing his campaign in the process.
Dig through RightWingWatch. Attacks and insults of Mormonism have already been a part of this primary season.
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Four More Tears Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:48:42pm |
re: #226 The Ghost of a Flea
Dig through RightWingWatch. Attacks and insults of Mormonism have already been a part of this primary season.
Yeah, the prime time for those attacks are gone.
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funky chicken Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:48:59pm |
re: #202 The Ghost of a Flea
At this point I wonder less about Romney and more about how terrible his handlers and spokespeople are.
Beyond the ethical dimension that drives me "center left" (and sometimes way left), there's the flinty part of my soul that appreciates the craftsmanship of a well-played con job. The latter part is just utterly contemptuous of Romney.
He's been getting terrible advice since about 2004 or so from the GW Bush handlers. What concerns me is that he followed it.
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Four More Tears Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:55:23pm |
re: #228 funky chicken
He's been getting terrible advice since about 2004 or so from the GW Bush handlers. What concerns me is that he followed it.
His foreign policy team is made up of former Bushies.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Apr 4, 2012 3:24:43am |
re: #204 freetoken
Is Romney is doomed?:
Romney fields hostile question on Mormonism
Mormonism is more a rock around his neck than a boost to his career, I think. There are some non-Mormons out there who might like the fact that Romney is a religious man, but Mormonism has baggage.
Perceived baggage. It's not like any religion doesn't have baggage upon objective view. Of course, the race-relations thing may be funny to watch when it's hanged on Romney. But imagine Huntsman in his place. Would that be fair?
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appleannie1 Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:15:01am |
Santorum listens to the voice of God in his head and believes he is the "chosen" candidate. His family looks sad because they are beginning to see how sick he really is.
Meanwhile Ann Romney is trying to unzip mittens to let him out so the whole world will get to see he is not stiff.
The clown car goes on.
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