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1 jaunte  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:51:42pm

This is just a big bottle of wrong:

[Link: store.baconsalt.com...]

What started as an April Fool's joke is now a REAL product thanks to the thousands of people that emailed, harassed and sent us highly explicit explanations of what they would do with this (thanks for that).

Just Keep It Sizzlin' with baconlube. They'll be bacon for more.

P.S. It's vegan-safe, making this the perfect gift for the vegetarian in your life.

2 Mich-again  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:53:31pm

I was kinda hoping to see Grace Kelly in there somewhere. I think she was the most beautiful Hollywood actress ever.

3 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 9:57:02pm

re: #1 jaunte

This is just a big bottle of wrong:

[Link: store.baconsalt.com...]

The only thing more disgusting than bacon lube is the concept of what chemical fakery goes into vegan bacon lube.

Also...pork products are might be tasty, but they're more associated with the itis than with eroticism.

4 freetoken  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 10:04:16pm

Brilliant little video.

5 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 10:18:28pm

It's interesting how close Santorums 38% came to Mitts 42% in Wisconsin tonight while in Maryland he got spanked.

6 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 10:18:33pm

re: #1 jaunte

EWWWW!

7 freetoken  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 10:21:14pm

re: #5 Amory Blaine

And, it is interesting to see that if one add's Gingrich votes to Santorums that Santorum would have beat Romney.

Newtie spears Santorum's hopes again.

8 freetoken  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 10:23:01pm

And it ought to be sobering to the Romney campaign that even now, as the obvious nominee, he can only get 42% of the vote in what was one of the original sources of the Republican Party and in a state that has in recent years been called "purple" for the tight balance between both political parties in that state.

9 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 10:30:27pm

re: #8 freetoken

And it ought to be sobering to the Romney campaign that even now, as the obvious nominee, he can only get 42% of the vote in what was one of the original sources of the Republican Party and in a state that has in recent years been called "purple" for the tight balance between both political parties in that state.

Wisconsin has its own troubles for the GOP right now. The most recent poll is showing support for recalling Walker at 52%, versus 47% against. We may very well see Wisconsin go blue in November.

10 Kragar  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 10:34:19pm

George Pataki wins bracket with most tepid Romney endorsement

The thousands of Yahoo! readers who played our Mitt Romney tepid endorsement bracket have spoken: Former New York Gov. George Pataki has given the most lackluster nod of support this election cycle.

Pataki, by starting out his endorsement with the ringing words "He has a number of problems," edged out co-finalist Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who told the Daily Caller that "There are a lot of other people out there that some of us wish had run for president—but they didn't," while endorsing the former Massachusetts governor.

The pair rose to the top of our interactive, NCAA-style bracket that pitted eight Republicans who endorsed Romney in less-than-glowing terms against each other. Pataki edged out Rubio by about 600 votes. You can see their full quotes below.

11 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 10:45:11pm

re: #9 Targetpractice

Wisconsin has its own troubles for the GOP right now. The most recent poll is showing support for recalling Walker at 52%, versus 47% against. We may very well see Wisconsin go blue in November.

Two months to go till the actual vote and the Dems have their own primary first. Much will depend on the outcome of that primary. Full Disclosure: I oppose the recall and my father has donated to Scott Walker's campaign fund.

12 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 10:49:38pm

re: #11 Dark_Falcon

Two months to go till the actual vote and the Dems have their own primary first. Much will depend on the outcome of that primary. Full Disclosure: I oppose the recall and my father has donated to Scott Walker's campaign fund.

Dark, no offense, but I don't think there's many here who don't know where you stand on the recall.

13 RadicalModerate  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 10:54:42pm

Decided to check out the comments over on the "Godfather Politics" site mentioned in the crazy "Did Obama Threaten to Kill Chelsea Clinton" thread downstairs [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Holy crap.

There are many - and I mean LOTS of posts advocating the overthrow of the US Government, and several posts like these (I redacted the poster's email address and phone number to conform with LGF rules):

This is Secret-Service level craziness, and there's more than a few who had better be getting visits.

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

Stephen L. Buechler sr.

We can't wait until the election. We must make this man disappear now.We must be willing to sacrifice our selves to save the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE HAVE TO RISE UP NOW! We need to put an armed force on the ground when he's in the W.H. and take him and his whore of a wife and make them disappear. I know this may seal my fate but I can abide no more. If we continue to whine and moan it will be to late and we all become slaves. I am sure they are reading this as I write it but I can do nothing about that. I sleep with my weapon beside me already. I ask all red blooded American patriots to rise up immediately and join me on a cavalcade to Washington D.C. as soon as we know for shure he is at home or some place where we can get to him. steve_buechler@#####.com ph.# 850-###-#### be prepared to defend yourselves. I heard yesterday that an operation is already planned for this month. Perhaps we can join forces with them. They said to lay in a months food,water and toilet paper. Said you'll know it's on when people are taken into custody and no one knows why. Gave no date other than to say it is in April so be prepared. Supposed to be peaceful operation with law enforcement being backed by military who have already said they are in so be alert . LOVE AND VICTORY TO YOU ALL! Stephen

5 hours ago 7 Likes

Martini

The Supreme Court Must Have Obana Arrested For Obstruction Of Justice.
The Supreme Court Must Arrest For Violtion Of The Three Branches Of Government.
The Supreme Court Should Arrest Obama For Violating The US Constitution.
The US Should Have Obama Assissinated For Fraud, Bribery, Corruption, High Crime, Conspiracy, Treason.
Obama Must Die Along With The Enemies In The White House & The Enemies traitors Democrats In Congress & Senate For Perjury, Fraud, Bribery, Conspiracy, Hugh Crime, Treason, High Treason.
The Supreme Court & The People Should Never Tolerate Traitors & Communism & Islam In America.
America Is A Free Country For Free Americans Christian People Only One Nation Under God Founnded By The Forefathers Pilgrims & Our Founders & George Washington, Thomas Jefferson That Signed The Constitution To Protect The People Against Communism, Islam & Tyranny.
Time To Crushed & Destroy All Our Foreign & Domestic Enemies Of The United States Constitution & The People Republic One Christian Nation Under God.
Kill'em All Thy Enemies.The Only Way To Retake Our Country & Freedom

9 hours ago 3 Likes

14 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 10:57:07pm

re: #12 Targetpractice

Dark, no offense, but I don't think there's many here who don't know where you stand on the recall.

I know, but it's better to post your disclosure statement too much, as opposed to too little. At least that way you know you're being honest.

15 Shvaughn  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 11:00:56pm

re: #13 RadicalModerate

Decided to check out the comments over on the "Godfather Politics" site mentioned in the crazy "Did Obama Threaten to Kill Chelsea Clinton" thread downstairs [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Holy crap.

There are many - and I mean LOTS of posts advocating the overthrow of the US Government, and several posts like these (I redacted the poster's email address and phone number to conform with LGF rules):

This is Secret-Service level craziness, and there's more than a few who had better be getting visits.

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

Yeah, they are downright scary. I hope the secret service IS investigating.

16 Shvaughn  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 11:06:50pm

Here's that case in Pasadena, Calif. that I've been following:

Federal lawsuit details horrifying final moments of Kendrec McDade

In the final moments of his life, Kendrec McDade was handcuffed and "began to twitch" on the ground after being shot by two Pasadena police officers, according to a civil rights lawsuit filed Tuesday in federal court.

McDade, a onetime standout football player at Azusa High School, tried to talk to officers as he lay dying, the lawsuit reads.

Instead, Pasadena police officers left McDade handcuffed in the street late Saturday night "for a protracted period of time without administering first aid," the lawsuit filed by McDade family attorney Caree Harper reads.

The 19-year-old Citrus College student died later at Huntington Memorial Hospital.

This is the case where the 9-1-1 caller told the police that he was robbed at gunpoint, and later admitted that he lied about the gun. The cops thought they were responding to an armed robbery and shot an unarmed kid. The caller has since been turned over to immigration authorities since he's undocumented and was previously deported.

17 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 11:15:02pm

re: #14 Dark_Falcon

Honest, we know you are.
((hugs))

18 RadicalModerate  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 11:21:05pm

re: #13 RadicalModerate

Did a little more digging. The Buechler guy from the first comment above has written more than a few incendiary letters to Northern Florida newspapers
[Link: www.nwfdailynews.com...]

as well as apparently being an active Tea Party member:
(his profile page here - cached)

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

This guy is freaking dangerously nuts.

19 AK-47%  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 11:25:37pm

re: #18 RadicalModerate

And it's only gonna get worse in Obama's second term: The NRA has already warned us of his cunning and subtle plans to end gun ownership in America, they will be convinced of the need to get proactive.

20 Lidane  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 11:27:23pm

re: #19 Expand Your Ground

I'm already expecting all these "patriots" to suddenly become "lone wolves" that Faux News and the rest of the RWNJ blogosphere will feel obligated to disavow.

It's amazing how the first minority POTUS has so thoroughly unhinged some people.

21 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 11:31:47pm

re: #19 Expand Your Ground

And it's only gonna get worse in Obama's second term: The NRA has already warned us of his cunning and subtle plans to end gun ownership in America, they will be convinced of the need to get proactive.

If anything this starts to become self-fulfilling as more and more nutty "lone wolves" start acting in defense of their gun rights. Leading to pressures towards poorly written firmer controls in order to keep nuts from suddenly shooting up crowds. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
:p

22 AK-47%  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 11:40:44pm

And just imagine some widespread natural or man-made disaster (or combination of both) that results in a regional collapse of authority and requires the government to declare some sort of martial law.

That would provoke a mass of gun nuts to be convinced it is the first step in a government takeover and it could escalate nastily.

23 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 11:45:25pm

I just had an epiphany. After thinking about stuff since Sunday.

24 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 11:55:29pm

And good morning to the Lizards.

Connection was flaky yesterday with LGF. Couldn't update the thread or make comments. But is working today.

Overcast here near Koln today.

And an interesting wildlife sighting yesterday. Saw a weasel slinking about the low undergrowth near the admin building. (Standard build, not an ice weasel.)

25 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 11:57:35pm

re: #24 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

LOL! You saw a weasel, but it wasn't our Ice!

26 AK-47%  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 11:58:25pm

A common problem in many parts of Germany: weasels and martens climbing into car motors and eating the wiring.

27 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 11:59:30pm

re: #26 Expand Your Ground

That seriously sucks. That sounds like a doozy of a repair bill.

However, Weasels and Martens are cute.

28 Kragar  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 12:07:07am

Sarah Palin’s ‘rogue’ pick for VP: Allen West

Romney and West: The new Odd Couple, the comedy value alone would be worth it.

29 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 12:08:01am

re: #28 Kragar

The dipshit and the war criminal.

30 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 12:13:50am

re: #28 Kragar

Sarah Palin’s ‘rogue’ pick for VP: Allen West

Romney and West: The new Odd Couple, the comedy value alone would be worth it.

It sounds like something the GOP would do: guarantee an absolutely toxic atmosphere for the general elections. Right-wing pundits would be able to play the "reverse racism" card whenever they ran out of arguments.

31 Kragar  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 12:17:41am

re: #30 Expand Your Ground

It sounds like something the GOP would do: guarantee an absolutely toxic atmosphere for the general elections. Right-wing pundits would be able to play the "reverse racism" card whenever they ran out of arguments.

And any attempt to point out the guy committed war crimes and has been terrible at his job will be met with "Oh, so now look who is being racist?"

32 Lidane  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 12:21:15am

re: #28 Kragar

Sarah Palin’s ‘rogue’ pick for VP: Allen West

Allen West? After the wingers started jumping down the war criminal's throat for being outraged about Trayvon Martin's murder? As if.

33 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 12:24:27am

The GOP will nonetheless have to come up with some incredibly conservative VP candidate to "balance" Romney on social issues, one who would keep us hoping and wishing that nothing happens to Mitt while in office...

34 Lidane  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 12:28:56am

re: #33 Expand Your Ground

The GOP will nonetheless have to come up with some incredibly conservative VP candidate to "balance" Romney on social issues, one who would keep us hoping and wishing that nothing happens to Mitt while in office...

They might as well just nominate their hero Sheriff Joe. He's a birther, wants to deport everyone with a Spanish last name, and doesn't give a damn about pesky things like civil rights and the rule of law. The GOP base would love him.

35 Kragar  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 12:31:29am

re: #34 Lidane

They might as well just nominate their hero Sheriff Joe. He's a birther, wants to deport everyone with a Spanish last name, and doesn't give a damn about pesky things like civil rights and the rule of law. The GOP base would love him.

Oh shit... What if he picks Jan Brewer?

36 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 12:35:55am

re: #35 Kragar

Oh shit... What if he picks Jan Brewer?

Jeez...you have just guaranteed that I will have nightmares tonight. Sherrif Joe for Attorney General.

37 Lidane  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 12:38:19am

re: #35 Kragar

Oh shit... What if he picks Jan Brewer?

Then we'd see that picture of her wagging her finger at President Obama for the entire election. Bleah.

38 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 12:40:45am

re: #37 Lidane

Then we'd see that picture of her wagging her finger at President Obama for the entire election. Bleah.

That is exactly the image (and message) they want: "Annoy a liberal - vote Romney/Brewer!"

39 researchok  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 1:23:51am

Morning, all

40 freetoken  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 1:48:21am
41 EdDantes  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 1:50:12am

re: #40 freetoken

[Embedded content]

Weird! I was just thinking about this song at work. Although it wasn't Japanese it was Rolf Harris from 1962.

42 EdDantes  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 1:51:31am

"Tan me hide when I'm dead Fred. Tan me hide when I'm dead.

43 researchok  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 1:52:33am

I'm seeing polka dot mini dresses and white patent leather boots

44 EdDantes  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 1:59:05am

re: #43 researchok

I see those all the time!

45 EdDantes  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 3:00:55am
46 RogueOne  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 3:51:40am

Self-delusion as an art form:

The "I'm so beautiful" backlash
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

Yesterday, I wrote an article in the Mail, posing the question: Why do women hate me for being beautiful? The response it provoked has been extraordinary in its volume and vitriol, and beyond anything I could have imagined when I first started work at my keyboard.

Of course, I knew when I came up with the idea that it would provoke debate. I'd even prefaced the idea by explaining to the editor that I was fully aware I was setting myself up for a fall. I knew this was sensitive territory at which women would take umbrage — but I thought it was a taboo that needed shattering.

Yet even I could never have imagined the fury my piece would spawn and the thousands upon thousands of nasty comments I've been subjected to since it was published.

47 EdDantes  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 3:57:19am

re: #46 RogueOne

I just read about her somewhere. She is not quite as hot as she thinks she is.

48 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 3:58:55am

re: #46 RogueOne

First of all, she's not beautiful. Second, who is she?

49 Bob Levin  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 4:04:40am
50 RogueOne  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 4:07:31am

re: #48 Liberty Hedgehog (fka Freedom Alligator)

Don't hate her because she's beautiful.... She wrote this a couple days ago:
'There are downsides to looking this pretty': Why women hate me for being beautiful
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

It made it on the front page of FARK

51 RogueOne  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 4:13:45am

I haven't seen this in the US press:

Pepper-sprayed for protesting: 30 students left 'choking' after being doused by police at tuition fees demo
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

Campus police pepper-sprayed as many as 30 demonstrators after Santa Monica College students angry over a plan to offer high-priced courses tried to push their way into a trustees meeting.

Raw video posted on the Internet showed students chanting 'Let us in, let us in' and 'No cuts, no fees, education should be free.'
...
Students were angry because only a handful were allowed into the meeting room, and when their request to move the meeting to a larger venue was denied, they began to enter the building, said David Steinman, an environmental advocate who is running for Congress as a Green Party candidate.

Two officers were apparently backed up against a wall, and began using force to keep the students out of the room. Steinman said both officers used pepper spray.

They brought milk with them so someone had an idea they might get pepper-sprayed. Proper Planning and all that.

Image: article-0-12760B92000005DC-53_634x364.jpg

52 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 4:15:53am

re: #50 RogueOne

Now there's delusion...

Speaking of which:

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Anders Behring Breivik said psychiatric ward 'worse than death'

Good for him.

53 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 4:16:56am

re: #51 RogueOne

I haven't seen this in the US press:

Pepper-sprayed for protesting: 30 students left 'choking' after being doused by police at tuition fees demo
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

They brought milk with them so someone had an idea they might get pepper-sprayed. Proper Planning and all that.

Image: article-0-12760B92000005DC-53_634x364.jpg

This will be spun as the fact that they were out to deliberately provoke pepper spraying by being disorderly...

54 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 4:17:59am

re: #52 Liberty Hedgehog (fka Freedom Alligator)

Now there's delusion...

Speaking of which:

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Good for him.

Just don't throw him in that there briar patch!

55 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 4:19:42am

re: #54 Expand Your Ground

Just don't throw him in that there briar patch!

That was my first thought too ;)

56 RogueOne  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 4:20:59am

re: #53 Expand Your Ground

This will be spun as the fact that they were out to deliberately provoke pepper spraying by being disorderly...

I don't know about that, you don't have to look very hard to figure out why they had the inclination that they might end up getting sprayed:

Image: pepper_spraying_cop_meme_01.jpg

57 RogueOne  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 4:22:18am

This was the first meme pic to pop up on GIS:
[Link: i0.kym-cdn.com...]

58 RogueOne  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 4:36:54am

The AZ "do not annoy" law has been put on hold:

Internet Trolls Can Breathe Easy for a Minute -- HB 2549 Has Been Stopped
[Link: blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com...]

As we've already mentioned twice before, the bill was never transferred to the governor, contrary to the numerous media reports saying it has. The bill was amended before it passed the Senate, meaning it was returned to the House -- where it's apparently been stopped.
....
Williams says the actual intent of the bill is not to throw Internet trolls in jail -- the intent was to protect people from harassment and stalking, and defend people's privacy.

"We believed we were moving forward in good faith," Williams says.

The bill was not exactly interpreted that way by others.

No, it wasn't. Anon got involved in a hilarious way:

Anonymous Advocates Sending "Butthurt Report Form" to Jan Brewer, Legislators
[Link: blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com...]

One of the most popular Twitter accounts associated with the Anonymous community, "YourAnonNews," got wind of Arizona's House Bill 2549, which was labeled by one critic as a "bill to censor electronic speech."

The response -- repeated multiple times to the account's 562,000-plus followers -- is to fax a "butthurt report form" to Governor Jan Brewer and state legislators.

If you're at the Capitol with a "butthurt report form" in your fax machine, now you know why.

A "butthurt report form," as you can see from the image below, is a way of mocking people who get offended by things they see online.

For example, under the headline "please tell us more about the incident of butthurt," you can check off options such as "Someone made a blog post that I didn't agree with," and "Someone wrote a story or anecdote that brought up Bad Memories and made me cry."

Butthurt Report Form:
Image: butthurt-form.jpg

59 RogueOne  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 4:45:32am

"Snitches get stitches impaled, stabbed, strangled, beaten, their teeth pulled out, and set on fire."
[Link: blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com...]

Among other things, Simpson pulled Neely's teeth out, drove a nail into his head, bashed him with a tire iron, stabbed him around 50 times, and strangled him. Then she chopped up his body and threw the pieces in a trash can, which she lit on fire.

Simpson was already in jail on an unrelated armed robbery charge in August 2009 when she was interviewed by police, and admitted that she killed Neely.

Neely had been missing for about three days after he left an assisted-care facility in his motorized wheelchair on August 2, 2009.

On August 5, 2009, the fire department was called to a residential trash bin on fire, which was holding Neely's charred remains.

"Angela Simpson told investigators that she lured Terry Neely into an abandoned apartment and once inside, attacked, dismembered and placed him in a trash can," Phoenix police said at the time of her arrest on the murder charge. "Her detailed description matched the injuries that were found during the autopsy examination."

Simpson told the cops she thought Neely was a "snitch" for police, which wasn't true.

The scariest part is the CNN video (at link). She sounds so calm and normal.

60 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 4:58:45am

Wisconsin union-busting law overturned:

[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]

A federal judge struck down key provisions of the law that set off Wisconsin's labor wars and recalls, issuing an injunction "requiring a return to automatic dues deductions for all members of public unions no later than May 31, 2012," and enjoining the bill's "mandatory recertification of general employee unions by an absolute majority of their members."

And that means trouble for the other states that followed suit in a mob.

The biggest deal here is striking down the re-certification bullshit. One wry commentator noted that, if legislators were under the rules of re-certification that were imposed on unions, no elected official would ever stay in office.

61 RogueOne  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 5:10:09am

re: #60 Obdicut

"So long as the State of Wisconsin continues to afford ordinary certification and dues deductions to mandatory public safety unions with sweeping bargaining rights, there is no rational basis to deny those rights to voluntary general unions with severely restricted bargaining rights," Conley wrote.
.....
With regard to the "onerous recertification provision," Conley said it is "irrational to impose this unique burden on a voluntary union with highly restrictive bargaining rights while maintaining far less burden on public safety unions in which involuntary membership and monetary support continue to be mandated by law."
Conley found the ban on dues deductions violated the First Amendment because dues money is generally used to fund protected speech.

It looks like if they hadn't exempted "public safety" unions that portion would have passed muster.

62 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 5:17:14am

re: #61 RogueOne

It looks like if they hadn't exempted "public safety" unions that portion would have passed muster.

No, I don't think so. One of the key points the judge stressed was that participation in the non-public safety unions is voluntary. It's not so much about the public safety vs. non as it is the voluntary vs. non.

63 RogueOne  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 5:28:28am

Finally motivated enough to hit the gym. My bikini diet is coming along nicely and now that AZ didn't make it illegal (it's both lewd and lascivious!) I'll be sure to post my mankini pics at some point.....

Enjoy your day people!

(Possibly NSFW)
Image: careys_mankini.jpg

64 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 5:50:17am

Morning all!

How is it today?

65 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 5:53:49am

re: #64 ggt

How's your head?

66 Interesting Times  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 5:55:18am

Good morning...here's your disturbing-on-multiple-levels thought for the day:

67 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 5:56:58am

re: #65 Obdicut

How's your head?

Still here. I'm going to get out of the house today. Maybe walking around will help. Sometimes it does.

Thanks for askin'!

68 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 6:03:10am

re: #67 ggt

Sunshine can be a painful but efficacious remedy.

69 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 6:07:01am

I'm off.

have a great day all!

70 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 6:20:02am
71 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 6:38:00am

Today I have to lay the new shelving paper in the pantry and drawers that I will be using for Pesach (NOT the entire kitchen which I did for years and years until I realized it's only for ONE FREAKING WEEK), then go shopping and spend an idiotic amount of money on food.

This year it's only me and Zedushka for the seder, everybody else including the newlyweds decided they want to be somewhere else that MORE FUN.

Less work for me.

72 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 6:58:01am

LG LCD panels come packed in these things. I imagine they don't do a lot of business in Israel...

Image: wjVJh.jpg

73 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:00:41am

re: #72 Patronizing Laugh Track

Just like English speakers will never buy these German breath freshener drops:

smellis fresh-mint

74 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:07:15am

re: #72 Patronizing Laugh Track

LG LCD panels come packed in these things. I imagine they don't do a lot of business in Israel...

Image: wjVJh.jpg

I tend to not freak out when I see upright swastikas, it's the ones tilted at a 90-degree angle that can be "threatening."

Srsly, many years ago a co-worker put up her wedding invitation in the break room, it had swastikas all around the border like a cute little motif. Oh yeah, this was a Hindu wedding.

75 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:07:55am

re: #73 Expand Your Ground

Meanwhile, this shit isn't proving as popular as its makers would have liked:

Image: sport-spunk.jpg

76 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:08:28am

re: #75 Obdicut

Meanwhile, this shit isn't proving as popular as its makers would have liked:

Image: sport-spunk.jpg

Is that pedo bear?

77 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:09:07am

You can see that I totally do not want to go into the kitchen and lay down shelving paper.

78 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:11:04am

re: #10 Kragar

Pataki is nothing if not tepid. That is probably the best description of Pataki. Tepid.

The guy had no charisma and was a disaster for the NYS GOP despite winning reelection.

So an endorsement by Pataki will be tepid. Not that it means anything. No one considers him to be important in state politics.

His endorsement is nothing but a distant echo of a time when Pataki was relevant in state politics...

which makes a nice segue for my music choice for the morning:

79 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:13:14am

re: #71 Learned Mother of Zion

It's crazy the amount of money spent on food and preparations for one week, but it's enough to spawn an entire cottage industry in the Hasidic community in NYC.

80 iossarian  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:24:10am

re: #78 lawhawk

Mmm. David Gilmour shirtless!

81 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:28:29am

We used to be into any band that was big in the UK but had not made waves in the US. Some of them never caught on, like Slade, Hawkwind, Barclay James Harvest, T-Rex (save for one hit), but we were pleased as punch when Pink Floyd finally made it big and we could show off our extensive back catalogue of pre-Dark Side of the Moon LP's.

82 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:30:46am

re: #81 Expand Your Ground

My friends Annie and Michel are big in South America, moderate in Europe, but can barely fill a room in the US.

[Link: www.potionmusic.com...]

83 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:37:56am

And David Hasselhoff is still considered a pop star in Germany and Austria: "Looking for Freedom" was a no. 1 hit in the charts there...

84 iossarian  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:42:04am

re: #82 Obdicut

My friends Annie and Michel are big in South America, moderate in Europe, but can barely fill a room in the US.

[Link: www.potionmusic.com...]

Is that a comment on their popularity, or the relative girth of people from different continents?

85 iossarian  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:42:34am

re: #83 Expand Your Ground

And David Hasselhoff is still considered a pop star in Germany and Austria: "Looking for Freedom" was a no. 1 hit in the charts there...

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Do not.

Hassle the Hoff.

86 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:43:12am

I see a DK diary on their spotlight list that makes a good point. The correct "positive" term for anti-choicers is not pro-life, but pro-birth.

87 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:45:45am

re: #79 lawhawk

It's crazy the amount of money spent on food and preparations for one week, but it's enough to spawn an entire cottage industry in the Hasidic community in NYC.

That's so cool. I think I'll blog it.

88 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:49:52am

Pro-birthers. Sounds good.

89 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:53:25am
90 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:57:25am

re: #89 MikeySDCA

OT: It occurred to me that the Santorum campaign is rather like a Myrddraal. It takes a long time for it to figure out that it is dead.

No, he is already profiling himself for 2016, so that when Romney loses, he can make his claim that the GOP did not nominate a sufficiently conservative candidate.

Romney will come out of this with "loser" tattooed all over his forehead, Santorum will come away with the reputation of a fighter and an underdog.

91 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:57:32am

re: #87 Learned Mother of Zion

The thing that boggles the mind is the statement by one of the rabbis from the Orthodox Union (OU) interviewed that they can consider something kosher even if it has 1/60 by weight nonkosher ingredients, but if something has even a particle of chametz, the entire item is chametz:

Rabbi Menachem Genack, the rabbinic administrator of the Orthodox Union, which certifies foods in 83 countries, explains that the rules forbidding chametz are more severe than for nonkosher foods like pork. Jewish law tolerates some contamination of kosher food, as long as it does not exceed one-sixtieth of the total consumed; with chametz, even the slightest speck renders a dish inedible.

I wonder where that distinction comes from, and with technological advancements, is it even possible to render something truly chametz free - after all microscopic particles could show ongoing particles. Why do we not consider the same rules for chametz as we do general kashruth? /going on a 4 questions rant...

92 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:58:31am

re: #91 lawhawk

The thing that boggles the mind is the statement by one of the rabbis from the Orthodox Union (OU) interviewed that they can consider something kosher even if it has 1/60 by weight nonkosher ingredients, but if something has even a particle of chametz, the entire item is chametz:

I wonder where that distinction comes from, and with technological advancements, is it even possible to render something truly chametz free - after all microscopic particles could show ongoing particles. Why do we not consider the same rules for chametz as we do general kashruth? /going on a 4 questions rant...

Remember, we live in a country where the law says that hamburger can be up to 15% pink slime...

93 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:59:13am

re: #91 lawhawk

The thing that boggles the mind is the statement by one of the rabbis from the Orthodox Union (OU) interviewed that they can consider something kosher even if it has 1/60 by weight nonkosher ingredients, but if something has even a particle of chametz, the entire item is chametz:

I wonder where that distinction comes from, and with technological advancements, is it even possible to render something truly chametz free - after all microscopic particles could show ongoing particles. Why do we not consider the same rules for chametz as we do general kashruth? /going on a 4 questions rant...

It's a TRADITION to make up the most ridiculous chumros (stringencies) for Pesach that you can possibly think of!

94 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:00:09am

re: #90 Expand Your Ground

Santorum certainly thinks that he's going to be a frontrunner come 2016, but he's doing himself and everyone a great favor by showing just how radical he and the rest of the GOP have become. Moderates should fear what Santorum's selling - they aren't leaving the GOP - the party has left them in favor of the SoCon religious right agenda that seeks to impose their religious views on everyone else (and that extends to everything from being anti-science and creationist to womens' rights, contraception, abortion, etc.)

95 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:00:55am

Good morning lizards!

When I got home last night I watched the video of the Dallas tornado throwing tractor trailers around like tree branches. Unreal.

96 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:01:06am

re: #93 Learned Mother of Zion

Ah... Tradition.....

Tradition!!

97 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:03:42am

re: #96 lawhawk

Ah... Tradition...

Tradition!!

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My kids have made up new stringencies that I have never heard of. "Tradition," heh.

It actually worked out well last year when my daughter and her family came for the holiday, with a shitload of restrictions that they observe that we totally do not observe. Instead of getting into arguments, I let her do all the cooking!

Heh.

98 Talking Point Detective  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:04:43am

re: #71 Learned Mother of Zion

Today I have to lay the new shelving paper in the pantry and drawers that I will be using for Pesach (NOT the entire kitchen which I did for years and years until I realized it's only for ONE FREAKING WEEK), then go shopping and spend an idiotic amount of money on food.

This year it's only me and Zedushka for the seder, everybody else including the newlyweds decided they want to be somewhere else that MORE FUN.

Less work for me.

You seem like a good person to ask...

I'm bringing desert to a Seder and was thinking of chocolate mousse (I make a really good one), but thought of branching out and don't have a special Passover desert recipe.

Suggestions?

99 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:06:13am

re: #97 Learned Mother of Zion

My kids have made up new stringencies that I have never heard of. "Tradition," heh.

It actually worked out well last year when my daughter and her family came for the holiday, with a shitload of restrictions that they observe that we totally do not observe. Instead of getting into arguments, I let her do all the cooking!

Heh.

Well, at least you guys do not have any debates about ham and pineapple on pizzas...

100 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:06:34am

Why do the make shelving paper that is 4" shorter than the depth of the shelf? That sucks.

Of course the reason is to sell more shelving paper because you have to go back and cut off a little strip to cover the shelf that didn't get covered the first time around.

This year I "cheated" and covered up the leftover shelvage with masking tape.

101 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:06:40am

re: #97 Learned Mother of Zion

My kids have made up new stringencies that I have never heard of. "Tradition," heh.

It actually worked out well last year when my daughter and her family came for the holiday, with a shitload of restrictions that they observe that we totally do not observe. Instead of getting into arguments, I let her do all the cooking!

Heh.

Therein lies the true wisdom.

102 Simply Sarah  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:06:48am

Warning: Random rambling ahead

As we approach the Easter holiday this, at least for most Christians, Sunday I cannot help but ponder the meaning of the fact that a relatively minor Christian holiday, Christmas, seems to have become in many minds the most important Christian holiday largely due to how secularized it has become.

Contrast this with Easter, which is, without question, by far the most important Christian holiday for all major branches of Christianity, yet it often seems discounted by many Christians as little more than one of the few days a year they may go to church. It is also secularized to a degree, but not nearly to the level of Christmas and it certainly doesn't have the same cultural meaning.

It just all seems somewhat odd to me, even if I can mostly understand why it is the case.

103 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:07:00am

re: #98 Talking Point Detective

Mrs. Lawhawk does a couple of really good deserts. One's a thumbprint cookie with fruit fillings, a mandel bread, and a lemon chiffon cake.

104 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:08:05am

re: #94 lawhawk

Santorum certainly thinks that he's going to be a frontrunner come 2016, but he's doing himself and everyone a great favor by showing just how radical he and the rest of the GOP have become. Moderates should fear what Santorum's selling - they aren't leaving the GOP - the party has left them in favor of the SoCon religious right agenda that seeks to impose their religious views on everyone else (and that extends to everything from being anti-science and creationist to womens' rights, contraception, abortion, etc.)

The modern GOP is not capable of learning, and since all they are likely to see is that Romney loses by less than McCain, they will remain convinced that they only lost because they did not remain true to their conservative principles.

105 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:09:38am

re: #102 Simply Sarah

Warning: Random rambling ahead

As we approach the Easter holiday this, at least for most Christians, Sunday I cannot help but ponder the meaning of the fact that a relatively minor Christian holiday, Christmas, seems to have become in many minds the most important Christian holiday largely due to how secularized it has become.

Contrast this with Easter, which is, without question, by far the most important Christian holiday for all major branches of Christianity, yet it often seems discounted by many Christians as little more than one of the few days a year they may go to church. It is also secularized to a degree, but not nearly to the level of Christmas and it certainly doesn't have the same cultural meaning.

It just all seems somewhat odd to me, even if I can mostly understand why it is the case.

Certainly not the case in Eastern Europe and the Orthodox branches of Christianity, Christmas is no great shakes to them, it is all about Easter.

106 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:10:08am

re: #98 Talking Point Detective

You seem like a good person to ask...

I'm bringing desert to a Seder and was thinking of chocolate mousse (I make a really good one), but thought of branching out and don't have a special Passover desert recipe.

Suggestions?

We never serve dessert at the seder. Everybody is usually too stuffed by that time. The "afikoman" is supposed to be the "dessert"

You totally asked the wrong person. I hate the sugary eggwhite spongecake concoctions that pass for "dessert" during Passover week. Although I do have a recipe for cocoa chocolate brownies that I used to make back in the day, that were usually all gone within 30 seconds of taking them out of the oven.

107 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:11:33am

Must get back to papering more shelves.

108 Simply Sarah  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:11:41am

re: #105 Expand Your Ground

Certainly not the case in Eastern Europe and the Orthodox branches of Christianity, Christmas is no great shakes to them, it is all about Easter.

I suppose I should have been more careful and specified 'Western' Christians (Whatever the hell that means), since I'm aware this is almost exclusively a cultural, rather than religious, situation.

109 Talking Point Detective  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:12:04am

re: #103 lawhawk

Mrs. Lawhawk does a couple of really good deserts. One's a thumbprint cookie with fruit fillings, a mandel bread, and a lemon chiffon cake.

I thought of a lemon cake or mandel bread (just found a good looking recipe online), but I'm not sure how they'd turn out with matzo flour.

110 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:12:15am

re: #105 Expand Your Ground

Christmas is no great shakes to them

Not true at least for Russia. While Easter is the "main" one, Christmas is a close second.

111 Talking Point Detective  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:14:59am

re: #106 Learned Mother of Zion

You totally asked the wrong person. I hate the sugary eggwhite spongecake concoctions that pass for "dessert" during Passover week.

Yeah - I hear you. I'm not a fan of most Passover deserts either - which is why I'm looking for suggestions. Of course, I've had many a good flourless chocolate cake - but they're heavy and it seems to me they might require a few experimentations before getting them right.

112 Simply Sarah  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:15:08am

re: #110 The Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost

Not true at least for Russia. While Easter is the "main" one, Christmas is a close second.

Do you think at least some of that might be due to a combination of the suppression of the Orthodox Church for many years along with perhaps a wider exposure to 'western' thought in Russia compared to some of the other former Soviet bloc nations? And, of course, those Orthodox countries that weren't part of it.

113 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:17:58am

re: #112 Simply Sarah

It was so before the Revolution, so neither.

[Link: ricolor.org...]

114 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:18:22am

re: #110 The Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost

Not true at least for Russia. While Easter is the "main" one, Christmas is a close second.

When I was there, they had only just recognized Christmas as a holiday. The whole thing with the tree and the gifts and Father Christmas was taken over by New Year's.

115 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:19:30am

We (the inhabitants of formerly Christian territories) even count our years from the supposed birth of Jesus. So it was always a big deal.

116 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:20:01am

re: #114 Expand Your Ground

Yeah, but you were in early 1990s.

117 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:20:08am

re: #113 The Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost

It was so before the Revolution, so neither.

[Link: ricolor.org...]

Soviet children were allowed only two Christmas presents: one for each parent they turned in to the secret police!

118 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:22:04am

re: #116 The Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost

Yeah, but you were in early 1990s.

So it has recovered since then?

In the West, the Protestant tradition frowned on any ostentatious or excessive celebrations (remember that Cromwell even tried to ban Christmas).

119 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:23:00am

re: #118 Expand Your Ground

So it has recovered since then?

In the West, the Protestant tradition frowned on any ostentation celebrations (remember that Cromwell even tried to ban Christmas).

As a Church event, certainly. Secular-wise, it's nowhere near the New Year.

120 Lidane  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:25:53am

Cue the inevitable bleating by the wingnuts:

FLOTUS is going on The Colbert Report next Wednesday, April 11

I'm already expecting a bunch of derp and idiocy to end up on whatever article Faux News writes about this.

121 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:28:37am

New York pulls plans to ban words from standardized tests

New York (CNN) – One week after New York's Department of Education drew controversy with a request to ban 50 words and references from the city's standardized tests – including “dinosaur,” “birthday” and "religion" – the department announced Tuesday that it is abandoning the plan.

"After reconsidering our message to test publishers and the reaction from parents, we will revise our guidance and eliminate the list of words to avoid on tests,” New York Chief Academic Officer Shael Polakow-Suransky said in a statement.

“We will continue to advise companies to be sensitive to student backgrounds and avoid unnecessary distractions that could invalidate test scores and give an inaccurate assessment of how students are doing," the statement continued...

122 Simply Sarah  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:28:49am

I still find it somewhat bizarre that in so many places Christmas is the holiday that has turned into a huge celebration while Easter has remained relatively sombre. You'd think that Easter, being a celebration of the resurrection of Christ and being the end of Lent, would be ideal for everyone to splurge wildly. Instead it seems that's left to Mardi Gras.

123 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:29:01am

re: #102 Simply Sarah

Warning: Random rambling ahead

As we approach the Easter holiday this, at least for most Christians, Sunday I cannot help but ponder the meaning of the fact that a relatively minor Christian holiday, Christmas, seems to have become in many minds the most important Christian holiday largely due to how secularized it has become.

Contrast this with Easter, which is, without question, by far the most important Christian holiday for all major branches of Christianity, yet it often seems discounted by many Christians as little more than one of the few days a year they may go to church. It is also secularized to a degree, but not nearly to the level of Christmas and it certainly doesn't have the same cultural meaning.

It just all seems somewhat odd to me, even if I can mostly understand why it is the case.

Try eastern Orthodox, Greek Orthodox or Coptic Easter. It's a much bigger deal than Christmas and the services can be pretty spectacular. I think cristmas became a bigger deal in the West because the Catholics were coopting a pagan holiday to spread the religion throughout Europe.
The music is pretty cool
Fadia el- Hage: Alyâwm - Greek - Arab Orthodox Easter Chant

124 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:29:10am
125 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:31:49am

re: #111 Talking Point Detective

Yeah - I hear you. I'm not a fan of most Passover deserts either - which is why I'm looking for suggestions. Of course, I've had many a good flourless chocolate cake - but they're heavy and it seems to me they might require a few experimentations before getting them right.

There are a bunch of Passover recipes on Teh Interwebz.

Personally, I am so exhausted from all the cleaning that I don't feel like experimenting with fancy new recipes. We just stick to the old favorites.

126 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:31:53am

re: #121 Gus

Finally they can ask questions about sexy religious dinosaurs!

127 Simply Sarah  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:31:57am

re: #123 Killgore Trout

Try eastern Orthodox, Greek Orthodox or Coptic Easter. It's a much bigger deal than Christmas and the services can be pretty spectacular. I think cristmas became a bigger deal in the West because the Catholics were coopting a pagan holiday to spread the religion throughout Europe.
The music is pretty cool
Fadia el- Hage: Alyâwm - Greek - Arab Orthodox Easter Chant

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Yeah. As I said, I made the mistake in my original post of not being specific about which forms of Christianity I meant. I'm not nearly as familiar with the more eastern branches of Christianity as I should be, but I know enough to realize there are a ton of differences.

128 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:32:22am

Pakistani militant taunts U.S. over $10M bounty

"I am here, I am visible. America should give that reward money to me," he told reporters Wednesday, mocking Washington for placing a bounty on a man whose whereabouts are no mystery. "I will be in Lahore tomorrow. America can contact me whenever it wants to."

ok

129 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:33:00am

re: #126 The Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost

Finally they can ask questions about sexy religious dinosaurs!

...and their birthdays in which they get drunk and talk about their poverty stricken childhoods while shooting a 9mm into the the night sky.

//

130 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:33:54am
131 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:34:44am

But of course the "Monkey bill" is looking like it will go ahead in Tennessee.

Derp.

132 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:40:29am

re: #127 Simply Sarah

Yeah. As I said, I made the mistake in my original post of not being specific about which forms of Christianity I meant. I'm not nearly as familiar with the more eastern branches of Christianity as I should be, but I know enough to realize there are a ton of differences.

I have a special fondness for greek orthodox easter. We lived in Athens as a kid and used to go to midnight mass every year. The tradition there is they turn off all the lights and everyone holds a beeswax candle for the service. You get bonus good luck for the year if you get home without your candle blowing out. The smell of the beeswax and the glow of the candles always brings me back Athens when I was young.

133 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:41:02am

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

“I am the constitutionally and legitimately elected Sheriff and I absolutely refuse to surrender my responsibility to the federal government,” he said in a letter the Justice Department today. “And so to the Obama administration, who is attempting to strong arm me into submission only for its political gain, I say, ‘This will not happen, not on my watch!’”

134 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:42:22am

re: #128 Killgore Trout

Pakistani militant taunts U.S. over $10M bounty

ok

I'd like to give him an Apache present.

135 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:42:26am

And, of course, Easter is the occasion for the hoax known as "the Holy Fire": [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

136 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:44:59am

re: #128 Killgore Trout

137 darthstar  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:45:22am

re: #128 Killgore Trout

Pakistani militant taunts U.S. over $10M bounty

ok

Occupy cross-hairs.

138 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:46:15am

re: #124 NJDhockeyfan

My Dad sent me a ham and 1lb of bacon from Edwards of Surry, VA. The ham was excellent, but the bacon was to die for!

139 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:48:15am

re: #133 The Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges!

140 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:54:20am

Harry Reid loses procedural ruling on budget vote

The Senate’s chief referee has issued a key ruling against Majority Leader Harry Reid, POLITICO has learned — a move expected to bring unwanted election-year pressure on the Nevada Democrat to act on politically dicey budget bills.

Newly appointed Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough, whom Reid recommended for the job, has decided that last summer’s deal on the debt ceiling and spending caps does not preclude the Senate from taking up other budget resolutions this year. The ruling could force vulnerable Democrats to cast tough votes that hurt them in November, a situation Reid and other leaders are eager to avoid as they work to protect their fragile majority.

The written opinion, shared late last week with a handful of Democratic and GOP senators, gives Republicans significantly more leverage to push for votes on budgets of their choosing. It could mean roll calls on Rep. Paul Ryan’s House-passed GOP budget plan and others offered by Sens. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) and Rand Paul (R-Ky.). Democrats would gladly vote down the Ryan blueprint, which Obama described Tuesday as a “radical” vision that guts funding for Medicare and education.

But a version of President Barack Obama’s own $3.6 trillion budget proposal, which the House unanimously rejected last week, also could come to the Senate floor, ensuring an embarrassing replay of last year when not a single senator voted for the president’s budget.

Heh. It appears that Reid is going to have to do his job and actually attempt to pass a budget. How long has this been going on, 3 years now?

141 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:57:26am

re: #140 NJDhockeyfan

Are you missing the context that the GOP made a deal on the budget that they now intend to break over and over again?

The GOP has no interest in actual governing anymore. It's pretty sad.

142 Lidane  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:57:30am
143 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 8:58:58am

re: #142 Lidane

Patriots.

144 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:00:58am

re: #141 Obdicut

Are you missing the context that the GOP made a deal on the budget that they now intend to break over and over again?

The GOP has no interest in actual governing anymore. It's pretty sad.

Reid is the leader in the Senate. It's all in his hands. He's done nothing so far. Let see if he has any testicles to get the ball rolling on a budget.

145 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:02:13am

re: #142 Lidane

Supporters of North Carolina's #Amendment1 say marriage equality will destroy liberty, social stability bit.ly/HqJw75

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) April 4, 2012

And may even promote spontaneous dancing.

146 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:02:37am
147 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:03:29am

re: #144 NJDhockeyfan

Reid is the leader in the Senate. It's all in his hands. He's done nothing so far. Let see if he has any testicles to get the ball rolling on a budget.

I'm sorry, you appear not to have read my post.

Do you understand that the GOP made a deal with the Democrats in the budget? There was quite a bit reported on it at the time, both here and elsewhere.

148 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:05:55am

re: #102 Simply Sarah

Warning: Random rambling ahead

As we approach the Easter holiday this, at least for most Christians, Sunday I cannot help but ponder the meaning of the fact that a relatively minor Christian holiday, Christmas, seems to have become in many minds the most important Christian holiday largely due to how secularized it has become.

Contrast this with Easter, which is, without question, by far the most important Christian holiday for all major branches of Christianity, yet it often seems discounted by many Christians as little more than one of the few days a year they may go to church. It is also secularized to a degree, but not nearly to the level of Christmas and it certainly doesn't have the same cultural meaning.

It just all seems somewhat odd to me, even if I can mostly understand why it is the case.

It comes from the fact that you can't very well secularize Good Friday. Even the bunny doesn't do much to change the essentially religious nature of our spring festival. The joy of winter ending has been close coupled in the west with either the resurrection for a very long time and these kinds of things are very slow to change.

It also has to do with the fact that you can do without. for example, Christmas - quite a few protestant denominations have since the Puritans on down - but you can't get away from Easter if you are a Christian.

149 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:06:03am

re: #145 RayFerd

And may even promote spontaneous dancing.

May also lead to hard beverages beyond hot cocoa such as coffee and possibly Bisquick.

150 Lidane  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:07:22am

Yes, there are violent assholes who have had a (D) after their names, too:

Arizona Lawmakers Say They’re Afraid Of Their Colleague

If what his colleagues in the Arizona statehouse say is true, Rep. Daniel Patterson might be the most feared politician in the state.

But it’s not his politics they say they fear. It’s his angry, threat-filled outbursts that they say are becoming all too normal. One such outburst managed to rattle a fellow lawmaker enough that she says she now sleeps with a weapon at her bedside — just in case.

This week, those same lawmakers said they are now considering throwing Patterson out of office after an ethics investigation uncovered a series of similar outbursts, along with other allegations, including that he once offered to give a lobbyist his vote in exchange for sex and that he regularly smokes marijuana.

The investigation came after prosecutors in Tucson charged Patterson with four misdemeanor counts of domestic violence. The charges, which he has pleaded not guilty to, stemmed from fights with his live-in girlfriend, who also happened to be his campaign manager at the time.

Here's the kicker. You'd think that the GOP in Arizona would want to toss Patterson to the wolves, using him as an example of out of control Democrats and/or liberals or something. Er... not so much:

GOP blocks effort to oust Patterson

Saying they want to let the process to play out according to rules, House Republicans on Tuesday rejected a Democratic effort to immediately expel Rep. Daniel Patterson.

The GOP majority used procedural moves to thwart two separate motions by Democratic leaders to immediately adopt the findings of an independent counsel who investigated the actions of the Tucson lawmaker. Rep. Cecil Ash, R-Mesa, said he had not even had time to review the 33-page report released Monday, much less the more than 200 pages of exhibits that were just made public on Tuesday.

Only Rep. Terri Proud, R-Tucson, broke ranks with her party, saying she believes Patterson should no longer be allowed to serve.

Patterson was not present at Tuesday's session but instead was in city court in Tucson where a judge was deciding whether to extend an order of protection against him obtained by his former wife. The judge denied her request.

151 wrenchwench  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:08:32am

re: #150 Lidane

Yes, there are violent assholes who have had a (D) after their names, too:

Arizona Lawmakers Say They’re Afraid Of Their Colleague

Here's the kicker. You'd think that the GOP in Arizona would want to toss Patterson to the wolves, using him as an example of out of control Democrats and/or liberals or something. Er... not so much:

GOP blocks effort to oust Patterson

They got a lot of freaks in office in Arizona.

152 wrenchwench  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:09:36am

re: #149 Gus

May also lead to hard beverages beyond hot cocoa such as coffee and possibly Bisquick.

If you're drinking your Bisquick, ur doin it rong.

153 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:10:03am

re: #151 wrenchwench

They got a lot of freaks in office in Arizona.

This proves the importance of wearing hats.

154 wrenchwench  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:11:00am

re: #153 Gus

This proves the importance of wearing hats guns.

Fixt it for the Zonies.

155 Mocking Jay  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:11:43am

Stupid fucking Arizona...

Arizona Legislators Trying To Declare Pregnancy Two Weeks Prior To Conception

Handmaid's Tale. Cautionary. Not how-to manual. Gah, I'm tired of making this joke. Heart's not in it anymore...

156 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:12:19am

re: #154 wrenchwench

Fixt it for the Zonies.

Guns! For when your dick is too small.

//

157 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:12:45am

re: #147 Obdicut

I'm sorry, you appear not to have read my post.

Do you understand that the GOP made a deal with the Democrats in the budget? There was quite a bit reported on it at the time, both here and elsewhere.

When do you think the Obama budget be up for a vote in the Senate? How many years does it take?

158 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:13:03am
159 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:13:06am

re: #150 Lidane

It makes sense that the GOP would like to see this dragged out for as long as possible to put the Democrats in a bad light and/or distract from their own dangerous nut cases like Sheriff Joe.

160 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:14:35am

And for you suckers for punishment...

161 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:15:48am

re: #160 Gus

And for you suckers for punishment...

Masochist: Hit me!
Sadist: No.

162 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:20:17am

This time-lapse is brilliant! I've always thought the set in Rear Window was one of the most beautiful sets ever created.

163 iossarian  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:24:16am
164 Lidane  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:24:32am

re: #159 Expand Your Ground

It makes sense that the GOP would like to see this dragged out for as long as possible to put the Democrats in a bad light and/or distract from their own dangerous nut cases like Sheriff Joe.

The Dems have already ousted Patterson from their ranks. He's now a registered independent according to that second article. The only thing left is getting him the hell out of office because he's clearly crazy and has severe problems.

It's maddening that something like a guy being a documented woman-beater isn't enough to get him immediately tossed out on his ass. WTF. You'd think the GOP would make an exception for that, but I guess with Sheriff Joe running around, you need anything you can hold on to in order to play MBF or something.

165 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:26:27am

Creating a stink: German artist invents toilet paper bearing a picture of Hitler's face

A provocative German artist has caused a stink by creating toilet paper featuring Adolf Hitler's face.

The loo roll bears an ink drawing

of the Nazi leader, but without his trademark moustache, so buyers can 'add a brown one'.

Georg Buchrucker, 32, invented what he calls the 'Draw Your Own Sh**ler' as a 'satirical statement' about the dictator.

He is selling the paper for $4.70 (£3.00) on his website, and says he has had orders from as far afield as Australia and the U.S.

'My toilet paper is not just practical, it is making a point with humour,' he told Metro.co.uk. 'Which moustache-wearing man in history would deserve this treatment more than Hitler?'

He has created a storm of controversy, however.

The artist told AllVoices.com: 'I'm just really pleased that my idea was so popular but I wish some people who are attacking me would loosen up a bit'.

166 dragonfire1981  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:27:46am
WATCH LIVE: Romney addresses the press tpm.ly/HkZlAK

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167 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:27:56am

re: #155 Altar Boy of Darwinism

Stupid fucking Arizona...

Arizona Legislators Trying To Declare Pregnancy Two Weeks Prior To Conception

Handmaid's Tale. Cautionary. Not how-to manual. Gah, I'm tired of making this joke. Heart's not in it anymore...

Not entirely impossible...

[Link: 2.bp.blogspot.com...]

168 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:28:49am

re: #149 Gus

May also lead to hard beverages beyond hot cocoa such as coffee and possibly Bisquick.

Bisquick is of Satan! But a good cuppa Jo has it's place in civil, god fearing society.

169 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:29:57am

re: #168 RayFerd

Bisquick is of Satan! But a good cuppa Jo has it's place in civil, god fearing society.

We're all infidels here, son! ///

170 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:31:29am

re: #93 Learned Mother of Zion

It's a TRADITION to make up the most ridiculous chumros (stringencies) for Pesach that you can possibly think of!

True.

171 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:32:05am

re: #157 NJDhockeyfan

When do you think the Obama budget be up for a vote in the Senate? How many years does it take?

So you're just determined to dodge the issue of the GOP breaking the agreement on the budget?

172 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:32:33am

re: #165 NJDhockeyfan

Creating a stink: German artist invents toilet paper bearing a picture of Hitler's face

There are still a lot of people there who are very uncomfortable at any mention of that aspect of their past, and if it has to be mentioned, then in hushed, serious academic tones. A satirical or critial approach just annoys them.

173 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:32:49am

re: #169 The Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost

We're all infidels here, son! ///

[Link: www.rocknadvolgoi.ru...]

174 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:35:35am

re: #173 Gus

A?

175 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:36:02am

We finally charged some of the 9/11 planners.

[Link: www.defense.gov...]

The Department of Defense announced today that the convening authority, Office of Military Commissions, referred charges to a military commission in the case of “United States v. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Walid Muhammad Salih Mubarak Bin 'Attash, Ramzi Binalshibh, Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, and Mustafa Ahmed Adam al Hawsawi.”

The charges allege that the five accused are responsible for the planning and execution of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, in New York, Washington D.C., and Shanksville, Pa., resulting in the killing of 2,976 people.

The convening authority referred the case to a capital military commission, meaning that, if convicted, the five accused could be sentenced to death. Pursuant to the reforms in the Military Commissions Act of 2009, each of the five accused have been provided, in addition to their detailed defense counsel, learned counsel, possessing specialized knowledge and experience in death penalty cases, to assist them in their defense.

Based on the allegations outlined in the charge sheets, the five accused are charged with terrorism, hijacking aircraft, conspiracy, murder in violation of the law of war, attacking civilians, attacking civilian objects, intentionally causing serious bodily injury, and destruction of property in violation of the law of war. The convening authority has referred all charges to a joint trial.

The charges are only allegations that the five accused have committed offenses punishable under the Military Commissions Act of 2009, and they are presumed innocent unless proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

In accordance with Military Commissions rules and procedures, the chief judge of the Military Commissions Trial Judiciary will assign a military judge to the case, and the five accused will be arraigned at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, within 30 days of service of the referred charges upon them.

176 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:37:19am

re: #174 The Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost

A?

Go! You must go!

//

177 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:39:25am

re: #171 Obdicut

So you're just determined to dodge the issue of the GOP breaking the agreement on the budget?

For three years? Epic fail by Reid and the Democrats in the Senate. Look, I know the Dems don't like Ryan's budget but not a single one voted for Obama's budget either. How long will this go on, another 3 years?

It's obvious the US Senate is severely lacking leadership.

178 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:41:06am

re: #176 Gus

o_o

179 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:41:29am

re: #177 NJDhockeyfan

For three years?

No, I'm talking about the deal that was brokered between the Democrats and the GOP in order to pass the budget, the one that involved a deal whereby if spending cuts couldn't be agreed upon, automatic sequestration would happen. This is the agreement the GOP is now breaking.

Do you seriously not remember that?

180 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:42:59am

re: #114 Expand Your Ground

When I was there, they had only just recognized Christmas as a holiday. The whole thing with the tree and the gifts and Father Christmas was taken over by New Year's.

But New Years is a BIG DAMN DEAL.

There was a pair of elderly couples in the building I grew up in who would trade off trees. The American-born Christians would use the tree for Christmas, and then transfer it on Boxing Day over to the Soviet-born Jews. It worked very well.

181 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:43:53am

re: #118 Expand Your Ground

So it has recovered since then?

In the West, the Protestant tradition frowned on any ostentatious or excessive celebrations (remember that Cromwell even tried to ban Christmas).

The Germans got us over that, here in the US. In Britain as well, really. It was Victoria's influence that launched the big-ass Victorian Christmas Extravaganza.

182 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:44:34am

re: #178 The Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost

o_o

:P

183 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:45:07am

re: #179 Obdicut

No, I'm talking about the deal that was brokered between the Democrats and the GOP in order to pass the budget, the one that involved a deal whereby if spending cuts couldn't be agreed upon, automatic sequestration would happen. This is the agreement the GOP is now breaking.

Do you seriously not remember that?

Yes. Everything going wrong in the country is the GOP's fault, right? What is the excuse rest of the past 3 years of nothing getting done, the GOP again?

184 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:46:47am

re: #183 NJDhockeyfan

Yes. Everything going wrong in the country is the GOP's fault, right? What is the excuse rest of the past 3 years of nothing getting done, the GOP again?

You're not addressing Obdicut's point. You could concede it or refute it, but you ignore it while trying to move the goalposts.

185 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:47:15am

Just doing the final cleanup for Pesach

I hope Eli(jah) doesn't get shot in Florida this year....

186 Lidane  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:47:24am

re: #183 NJDhockeyfan

Because the House isn't currently filled with a bunch of reactionary nutjobs for a majority. Really. Debate has been productive and useful, and they've been willing to work with the POTUS.

187 Simply Sarah  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:47:28am

re: #148 William Barnett-Lewis

It comes from the fact that you can't very well secularize Good Friday. Even the bunny doesn't do much to change the essentially religious nature of our spring festival. The joy of winter ending has been close coupled in the west with either the resurrection for a very long time and these kinds of things are very slow to change.

It also has to do with the fact that you can do without. for example, Christmas - quite a few protestant denominations have since the Puritans on down - but you can't get away from Easter if you are a Christian.

I think you make a good point about Good Friday. And with the run-up to Easter being so sombre, bother with the specific dates and Lent in general, you really can't get into a partying mood ahead of time like with Christmas.

188 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:50:27am

re: #183 NJDhockeyfan

Yes. Everything going wrong in the country is the GOP's fault, right? What is the excuse rest of the past 3 years of nothing getting done, the GOP again?

I didn't say everything is the GOP's fault, though. I'm focusing on something very specific: The budget agreement that was reached between the GOP and the Democrats, that the GOP are now attempting to break. I'm not even passing judgment on whether or not it's a bad thing to break that deal, I'm simply trying to get you to acknowledge that is, in fact, what the GOP are doing.

I don't understand why that's making you fly off the handle in so many different directions.

189 Kragar  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:52:30am

EXCLUSIVE: Trayvon Martin Family Attorney Raises Questions About The Role Of George Zimmerman’s Father

The New York Times reported the following:

The day after the shooting, George Zimmerman, according to his father, returned with at least three police officers to the Retreat at Twin Lakes, back to that grassy area where plaintive cries for help had gone unanswered. The investigators, accompanied by someone with a video camera, wanted him to re-enact the events of the night when the two strangers had stood their ground.

Mr. Zimmerman’s father watched from nearby.

Jackson noted that Robert Zimmerman was a retired magistrate judge who “issued warrants” and knows “what probable cause needs to be” to justify an arrest. His presence at the questioning, according to Jackson, was unusual and potentially inappropriate because “we don’t know what coaching went on.”

In an interview with Fox 35 Orlando, Robert Zimmerman, speaking of his son’s conduct, said “If a law enforcement officer presented those facts to me and requested a warrant, he would absolutely be denied.” Robert Zimmerman’s unusual role could help explain how George Zimmerman avoided arrest despite the recommendation of the lead homicide investigator that he be charged with manslaughter.

Seperately, Ben Crump, Jackson’s co-council, sent a letter to the U.S. Deputy Attorney General urging him to investigate a number of irregularities in the conduct of local authorities. Crump wrote that he believed “family members of shooter George Zimmerman were present at the police department” the night Trayvon Martin was killed.

190 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:53:23am
191 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:53:25am

re: #189 Kragar

Knew this would come up.

192 Jimmi the Grey  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:53:31am

re: #184 The Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost

You're not addressing Obdicut's point. You could concede it or refute it, but you ignore it while trying to move the goalposts.

As the recent GOP primary debates have shown, they are free to answer whatever question they want, not whatever question is asked.

193 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:53:55am

re: #172 Expand Your Ground

There are still a lot of people there who are very uncomfortable at any mention of that aspect of their past, and if it has to be mentioned, then in hushed, serious academic tones. A satirical or critial approach just annoys them.

I can understand that. Forget the TP, this is really going to sir some outrage...

Mein summer camp! Hitler's Butlins-style Nazi holiday resort to become luxury hotel and apartments

A huge chunk of the largest holiday camp ever constructed by the Nazis has been sold for £2.2million.

Block One of the Colossus of Prora - built by Hitler in the 1930s along the lines of Butlins in the UK - will be converted into a 400-bed luxury hotel and 400 apartments.

The building, the single-biggest sold in post-war Germany, had a reserve price of £700,000, but telephone bidding at a Berlin auction on Saturday sent the price soaring.

Prora was constructed on the Baltic island of Ruegen by the stormtroopers of the Nazi 'Strength Through Joy' leisure organisation over a six-year period and occupies nearly three miles of beachfront.

It was meant to provide holiday entertainment for 20,000 of Hitler's hordes at any one time. But not a single Nazi ever got to stay there.

[puke]

194 iossarian  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:55:03am

re: #193 NJDhockeyfan

I can understand that. Forget the TP, this is really going to sir some outrage...

Mein summer camp! Hitler's Butlins-style Nazi holiday resort to become luxury hotel and apartments

[puke]

So I take it there are no Siemens shares in your 401K?

195 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:56:36am

re: #194 iossarian

So I take it there are no Siemens shares in your 401K?

Or IBM...

196 Lidane  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:58:00am
197 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:58:26am

re: #194 iossarian

So I take it there are no Siemens shares in your 401K?

No, I just don't reich those kind of investments.

198 Lidane  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:00:12am
199 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:00:56am

re: #193 NJDhockeyfan

The Interstate highway system, space travel, package holiday tours...not every single thing the Nazis came up with is to be rejected outright, just their militaristic ideology and inhuman racial theories.

200 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:01:43am

How is the afternoon going all?

201 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:01:51am

re: #195 The Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost

Or IBM...

Some of this stuff can reach the point of absurdity. What about Lufthansa? What about Volkswagen? What about most of the autobahn in Germany? Colossus of Prora seems like a nice location. Might as well put it to good use.

202 Simply Sarah  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:03:58am

re: #201 Gus

Some of this stuff can reach the point of absurdity. What about Lufthansa? What about Volkswagen? What about most of the autobahn in Germany? Colossus of Prora seems like a nice location. Might as well put it to good use.

Some Nazis watched movies at some time during their lives. And listened to the radio.

203 iossarian  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:04:26am

re: #201 Gus

In the world of the Daily Mail, anything remotely linked to the Nazis is just an opportunity to display your anti-Nazi bona fides.

All the easier to support discrimination against minorities once you have that fig leaf to hide behind.

204 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:05:02am

re: #201 Gus

Some of this stuff can reach the point of absurdity. What about Lufthansa? What about Volkswagen? What about most of the autobahn in Germany? Colossus of Prora seems like a nice location. Might as well put it to good use.

Lufthansa is an intersting case. The current Lufthansa is a completely different organization to the one that operated under the Nazi regime and made use of slave labor.

The modern successor simply took over the rights to its name, despite its sullied past.

205 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:05:10am

re: #188 Obdicut

I didn't say everything is the GOP's fault, though. I'm focusing on something very specific: The budget agreement that was reached between the GOP and the Democrats, that the GOP are now attempting to break. I'm not even passing judgment on whether or not it's a bad thing to break that deal, I'm simply trying to get you to acknowledge that is, in fact, what the GOP are doing.

I don't understand why that's making you fly off the handle in so many different directions.

The GOP want to put a cap on spending. What's wrong with that?

206 Simply Sarah  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:05:29am

re: #203 iossarian

In the world of the Daily Mail, anything remotely linked to the Nazis is just an opportunity to display your anti-Nazi bona fides.

All the easier to support discrimination against minorities once you have that fig leaf to hide behind.

Food! The Nazis grew food. I pledge to never eat again!

207 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:06:00am

re: #206 Simply Sarah

Food! The Nazis grew food. I pledge to never eat again!

Well, there goes beer.

Not that I care.

208 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:06:09am

re: #203 iossarian

In the world of the Daily Mail, anything remotely linked to the Nazis is just an opportunity to display your anti-Nazi bona fides.

All the easier to support discrimination against minorities once you have that fig leaf to hide behind.

The only thing the British have left to be proud of in the world is that they held out and were on the winning side of WWII. And any opportunity to bash Nazis is seen as a chance to bring that up again.

209 Kragar  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:06:13am

re: #206 Simply Sarah

Food! The Nazis grew food. I pledge to never eat again!

I heard that the Nazis once breathed air.

210 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:06:20am

re: #204 Expand Your Ground

Lufthansa is an intersting case. The current Lufthansa is a completely different organization to the one that operated under the Nazi regime and made use of slave labor.

The modern successor simply took over the rights to its name, despite its sullied past.

Which reminds me of the White House being built with slave labor. No sense in tearing the place down because of that. We instead educate people.

211 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:06:40am

Godwin's rule is certainly appropriate these days.

212 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:06:49am

re: #202 Simply Sarah

Some Nazis watched movies at some time during their lives. And listened to the radio.

And wore pants.

213 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:07:19am

re: #212 Learned Mother of Zion

And wore pants.

NOW, don't go giving the teenagers any ideas!

:0

214 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:07:25am

re: #212 Learned Mother of Zion

And wore pants.

Actually, I'm not so sure I need lederhosen.

215 iossarian  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:07:32am

re: #212 Learned Mother of Zion

And wore pants.

That's OK, I'm not wearing any.

o_O

216 Simply Sarah  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:07:40am

Goddamn Nazis. They're taking everything from us. EVERYTHING!

217 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:07:42am

re: #212 Learned Mother of Zion

And wore pants.

Or Lederhosen.

//

218 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:07:51am

re: #214 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Actually, I'm not so sure I need lederhosen.

they're fine, just sew in a silk lining so they don't chafe...

219 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:08:03am

re: #214 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Actually, I'm not so sure I need lederhosen.

Argh. Ya beat me.

220 Lidane  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:08:37am

re: #201 Gus

Some of this stuff can reach the point of absurdity. What about Lufthansa? What about Volkswagen? What about most of the autobahn in Germany? Colossus of Prora seems like a nice location. Might as well put it to good use.

Two words: Leni Riefenstahl

From a technical perspective, she was a damn gifted filmmaker. Too bad she wasted her talents making Nazi propaganda.

221 dragonfire1981  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:08:49am

Interesting tweet here from Joe Arpaio:

222 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:08:59am

re: #220 Lidane

Two words: Leni Rifenstahl

From a technical perspective, she was a damn gifted filmmaker. Too bad she wasted her talents making Nazi propaganda.

Did she have a choice?

223 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:09:08am

I have to go shopping now, spend a shitload of money on expensive holiday food.

224 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:09:20am

re: #205 NJDhockeyfan

The GOP want to put a cap on spending. What's wrong with that?

No, that's not an accurate description of what they're doing, at all.

Since you're bound and determined to dodge the very simple, straightforward question about whether you understand that there was a deal brokered between the GOP and the Democrats that is now being broken by the GOP, I'm not going to keep asking you the same question. You clearly have no intention of answering it, and would rather just play dumb.

225 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:09:34am

re: #222 ggt

Did she have a choice?

Yes.

226 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:10:04am

re: #223 Learned Mother of Zion

I have to go shopping now, spend a shitload of money on expensive holiday food.

I laugh everytime to talk about Passover! I have a friend who goes thru the same thing. It is the only time of the year they celebrate anything Orthodox, the rest of the time they are Reformed.

She hates it.

227 iossarian  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:10:16am

re: #205 NJDhockeyfan

The GOP want to put a cap on spending. What's wrong with that?

It doesn't make any sense from an economic point of view?

It's just a piece of demagoguery to appeal to the people who don't understand that a national economy is not the same kind of thing as a household economy?

It's designed to target programs that save the country money in the long term, such as public health provision?

Is that enough reasons?

228 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:10:33am

Another incident happened, this time in Wisconsin. Found this story and its comments:

This isn't getting as much attention, but did any of you hear about the situation that happened in Wisconsin recently? A guy called the cops to report an underage drinking party, and the kids started fleeing when word spread that the cops were coming. One kid ran and hid on the neighbor's porch (the one that called the police), so the neighbor shot him dead. Of course, there were no repercussions, as Wisconsin just passed the Castle Doctrine! This country is moving so far right that is is firmly in wack job territory now, and I only imagine it's going to get worse. Conservatives have a huge loving hard-on for killing people that they don't like.

This is why I am worried come November, if Obama wins.

229 Lidane  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:11:21am

re: #222 ggt

Did she have a choice?

Absolutely. She chose to work with Hitler and approached him first.

230 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:11:40am

re: #228 ProGunLiberal

Another incident happened, this time in Wisconsin. Found this story and its comments:

This is why I am worried come November, if Obama wins.

The PORCH? I didn't realize a porch counted as "inside the home". Castle Doctrine is important, but I seriously thought it ended at the walls of the home.

231 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:11:55am

re: #229 Lidane

Absolutely. She chose to work with Hitler and approached him first.

I know nothing about her. Thanks for clarifying.

232 AK-47%  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:12:31am

re: #222 ggt

Did she have a choice?

Yes, she did. She embraced the Führer big time and helped create his image. She did not have to go along to the extent that she did, but she chose to in order to promote her career, and Hitler rewarded her handsomely.

But seen objectively, and without an eye for the propaganda, those films were technical masterpices, and even the international film community granted her numerous awards before the war.

233 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:12:37am

re: #226 ggt

I laugh everytime to talk about Passover! I have a friend who goes thru the same thing. It is the only time of the year they celebrate anything Orthodox, the rest of the time they are Reformed.

She hates it.

TRADITION!1!

234 Lidane  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:13:11am

re: #231 ggt

I know nothing about her. Thanks for clarifying.

If you've ever seen Triumph of the Will, you've seen her work.

Here's her Wiki entry: Leni Riefenstahl

235 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:13:16am

You think you have it tough with all the Nazis stuff. Now couple that with all the Commie stuff. Bwahaha.

236 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:13:56am

re: #230 ggt

Ah, and here is the link:

I honestly expect there to be a bloodbath in November in the likely event Obama wins. Anyone got evidence against it, because right now, I am assuming there will be multiple Breiviks.

237 Simply Sarah  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:14:22am

re: #235 The Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost

You think you have it tough with all the Nazis stuff. Now couple that with all the Commie stuff. Bwahaha.

Thinking back, it's actually sort of surprising people didn't try to ban Tetris.

238 Lidane  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:14:24am

re: #205 NJDhockeyfan

The GOP want to put a cap on spending. What's wrong with that?

It's economically stupid, for starters.

239 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:14:59am

re: #237 Simply Sarah

Thinking back, it's actually sort of surprising people didn't try to ban Tetris.

We don't need no Communist blocks in our country! //

240 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:15:07am

re: #236 ProGunLiberal

Ah, and here is the link:

I honestly expect there to be a bloodbath in November in the likely event Obama wins. Anyone got evidence against it, because right now, I am assuming there will be multiple Brieviks.

Honestly, I don't think so.

I don't know why, I just don't think there will be rioting. Perhaps a couple of local incidents, but not widespread. I think the 'Powers that Be' are well aware and watching.

241 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:15:18am

up up up

242 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:15:18am

re: #235 The Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost

You think you have it tough with all the Nazis stuff. Now couple that with all the Commie stuff. Bwahaha.

I would think then that Leni Rifenstahl (whom I am not familiar with) is certainly different than an inanimate object such as building or architecture. We also have the Colosseum in Rome which was the scene of incredible savagery or the plantations of the South.

243 Simply Sarah  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:15:34am

re: #239 The Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost

We don't need no Communist blocks in our country! //

I have to upding that for being so absolutely obvious and awful. :P

244 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:16:15am

I'm outta here again.

Have a good one all!

245 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:17:03am

re: #240 ggt

No, I'm not expecting rioting.

I'm expecting multiple repeats/copycats of the Utoya attack and OKC. I have absolutely no faith that the other side is civilized.

246 Gus  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:17:18am

BIAW

247 iossarian  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:19:22am

re: #242 Gus

I would think then that Leni Rifenstahl (whom I am not familiar with) is certainly different than an inanimate object such as building or architecture. We also have the Colosseum in Rome which was the scene of incredible savagery or the plantations of the South.

You make a good point about the Romans. People are quite happy to identify themselves with these noble, upstanding, cultured people who just happened to run a slave-dependent bloodthirsty empire of conquest and destruction.

Time heals all wounds it seems.

248 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:19:35am

re: #228 ProGunLiberal

Another incident happened, this time in Wisconsin. Found this story and its comments:

This is why I am worried come November, if Obama wins.

Some one busts into your porch at 1 or 2 AM, angry that you called the cops and you're supposed to sing Kumbayah? The DA said that even under previous law and case law precedent, it was a legal shooting. The homeowner legitimately feared for his life and the life of his wife and child.

Unlike in Florida, Wisconsin does investigate shootings. Has nothing to do with presidential politics. Now, go up to north east Wisconsin where the Neo-Nazi's & "Sovereign Citizens" hang out and it's a different story.

249 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:28:30am

re: #223 Learned Mother of Zion

While you're out... pick me up a Schick's rainbow cake and 7 layer goodness! :)

250 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 10:30:28am
251 Kronocide  Wed, Apr 4, 2012 6:29:38pm

re: #183 NJDhockeyfan

Yes. Everything going wrong in the country is the GOP's fault, right? What is the excuse rest of the past 3 years of nothing getting done, the GOP again?

The GOP is seriously screwed up and fucking this country up. It's been going on longer than 3 years.

Ideologue


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