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Signs of Desperation: RNC Chair Priebus Calls GOP War on Women ‘Fictional’

Desperately spinning, as women bail on the GOP
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In the face of news that women are deserting the Republican Party in disgust, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus is brushing the whole issue aside and calling it as fictional as a war on caterpillars.

Which are you going to believe: the countless forced ultrasound bills, the “fetal pain” bills and “personhood” bills, the attacks on Planned Parenthood, the attacks on contraception, Rush Limbaugh’s nasty misogyny … or Reince Preibus’s transparent attempt to spin it all away?

“If the Democrats said we had a war on caterpillars and every mainstream media outlet talked about the fact that Republicans have a war on caterpillars, then we’d have problems with caterpillars,” Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus said in an interview on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital with Al Hunt” airing this weekend. “It’s a fiction.”

Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz and fellow party leaders have been hammering Republicans for supporting policies such as requiring women seeking abortions to get an ultrasound.

“The jury of women across America have ruled that the Republicans have been unbelievably extreme and out of touch and hyper-focused on cultural issues,” Wasserman Schultz said on “Political Capital.” That’s reflected in polling showing President Barack Obama beating former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney or other Republican presidential contenders by 18 points, she said. That gender gap showed up in a survey of swing states published April 2 by USA Today/Gallup.

The Republican Party’s war on women is absolutely real, of course — and so is the growing desperation of people like Priebus, because they know their focus on destroying women’s rights has turned into a huge disaster for their party. As it should.

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146 comments

1 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:09:58am

Keep on denying, friends. (Obama in 2012!)

2 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:12:18am

Yeah, but I've been told by that feminine icon, Ann Romney, that they're gonna "unzip" Willard in the fall and show the women of America just what they've been missing.

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3 blueraven  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:12:45am

So, women/caterpillars...whats the difference?

Jerk.

4 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:13:37am

Oh, I get it. What he really meant was that we women are clueless caterpillars and that all the Republicans are trying to do it push us to become beautiful GOP butterflies. Although I do think I might have had a couple shorts in my logic circuits when I thought that out.

5 Kronocide  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:14:24am

What does that make Reince Priebus?

6 Tigger2005  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:14:34am

Excuse me, an army of caterpillars is on my front yard calling for me to surrender. I have to go out and tell them, "Nuts!"

7 Tigger2005  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:14:46am

re: #5 Kronocide

What does that make Reince Priebus?

A creature from Dune?

8 AK-47%  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:14:54am

Kill it now!re: #2 Targetpractice

Yeah, but I've been told by that feminine icon, Ann Romney, that they're gonna "unzip" Willard in the fall and show the women of America just what they've been missing.

///

Yes, unzip him and show that he is not stiff...

Is that a good stragegy to win women voters?

9 Obdicut  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:14:58am

Man, how many of my 'fiscally-conservative' friends who voted GOP reassured me over and over there was no real attempt to roll back abortions rights, that it was just playing to the dumb masses?

Way too many people fell for that bullshit. All of them, interestingly, men. The women I knew in the GOP either favored restriction of abortion and were happy with what they saw as a clear GOP agenda to restrict abortion, or women who saw that this was a problem for the GOP but thought reform was possible.

So good going, guys, your self-blinding sure came out great for the women of America. But hey, no real skin off your backs.

10 Kronocide  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:15:25am

re: #7 Tigger2005

A creature from Dune?

He's sure hopped up on that GOP Spice.

11 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:15:31am
While Priebus rejected the idea that Republicans are waging a war on women, he said they can combat the perception by focusing on their plans for the economy. He said they will be making their case “to women and everyone in this country.”

What matters to a woman's economy more than control of her reproductive system? Nothing.

12 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:15:39am

Which is why they oppose ultrasounds for abortions and criticized Limbaugh. Oh wait, they don't.

13 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:15:53am

re: #3 blueraven

So, women/caterpillars...whats the difference?

Jerk.

Well, see, we're both just good for eating a lot, then shedding our outer coverings so that guys can get a good look at us.

14 nines09  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:17:11am

Right. What sky? They even admit as much and stick a finger in the eye of women everywhere with this bit of arrogance.
If you are a woman and vote anywhere for any GOP/TP candidate you know exactly who you are voting against. Yourself.

15 erik_t  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:17:11am

re: #9 Obdicut

Man, how many of my 'fiscally-conservative' friends who voted GOP reassured me over and over there was no real attempt to roll back abortions rights, that it was just playing to the dumb masses?

That might have been true for a while, but pander to the dumb masses long enough and some of them will eventually end up in your leadership positions.

16 Tigger2005  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:17:22am

Like my brother. I told him I couldn't have anything to do with these crazies like Michelle Bachmann and their extreme agenda. He said "They don't mean any of that stuff, they're just saying it to make the people who believe it happy."

News flash, bro. They WERE the people who believe it.

re: #9 Obdicut

Man, how many of my 'fiscally-conservative' friends who voted GOP reassured me over and over there was no real attempt to roll back abortions rights, that it was just playing to the dumb masses?

Way too many people fell for that bullshit. All of them, interestingly, men. The women I knew in the GOP either favored restriction of abortion and were happy with what they saw as a clear GOP agenda to restrict abortion, or women who saw that this was a problem for the GOP but thought reform was possible.

So good going, guys, your self-blinding sure came out great for the women of America. But hey, no real skin off your backs.

17 AK-47%  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:17:43am

re: #11 wrenchwench

What matters to a woman's economy more than control of her reproductive system? Nothing.

That is part of Santorum's conservative thinking: that the decline in the traditional two-parent family has led to our nation's economic decline, and they need to address the moral issue before all that money that they are leeting job creators keep in order to create jobs is actually going to work.

And if trickle-down fails, it is not the GOP's fault because we are immoral scum.

18 Lidane  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:18:16am

re: #11 wrenchwench

What matters to a woman's economy more than control of her reproductive system? Nothing.

EXACTLY. That's what these assholes refuse to admit.

19 Kronocide  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:18:25am

Fiscally conservative/socially liberal

Go to the back of the tent.

20 blueraven  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:19:15am

re: #13 Simply Sarah

Well, see, we're both just good for eating a lot, then shedding our outer coverings so that guys can get a good look at us.

Crush them before they get their wings...after that it's all over!

21 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:19:26am

Moderation & reason are what is fictional in todays Republican party.

22 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:19:43am

re: #16 Tigger2005

Like my brother. I told him I couldn't have anything to do with these crazies like Michelle Bachmann and their extreme agenda. He said "They don't mean any of that stuff, they're just saying it to make the people who believe it happy."

News flash, bro. They WERE the people who believe it.

I never really got that. "Don't worry, they're not really crazy! They're just lying through their teeth!"

23 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:20:04am

re: #17 Expand Your Ground

That is part of Santorum's conservative thinking: that the decline in the traditional two-parent family has led to our nation's economic decline, and they need to address the moral issue before all that money that they are leeting job creators keep in order to create jobs is actually going to work.

And if trickle-down fails, it is not the GOP's fault because we are immoral scum.

He's proposing (a continuation of) control of women by religious ideology. I'm sick of it.

24 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:20:30am

re: #9 Obdicut

Man, how many of my 'fiscally-conservative' friends who voted GOP reassured me over and over there was no real attempt to roll back abortions rights, that it was just playing to the dumb masses?

Way too many people fell for that bullshit. All of them, interestingly, men. The women I knew in the GOP either favored restriction of abortion and were happy with what they saw as a clear GOP agenda to restrict abortion, or women who saw that this was a problem for the GOP but thought reform was possible.

So good going, guys, your self-blinding sure came out great for the women of America. But hey, no real skin off your backs.

GOP "moderate": "They're promoting jobs! And the economy! They know what America needs!"
Me: "And what of their calls for restrictions on abortion? And their talk against evolution, against science in general?"
GOP "moderate": "That's just for the rubes, nobody believes it! These guys are serious about getting America's financial house in order!"

So many lemmings, so little time.

25 Kronocide  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:22:06am

Big Tent indeed.

26 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:22:26am

What I don't get are people who take them seriously on the small government stuff. Reagan, Bush, all of them were as if not bigger government than Obama or Clinton. Of course when you point that out you get oh they weren't real conservatives. Always an excuse. Why? Because conservatism as they see it is a fantasy.

27 Lidane  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:23:03am

re: #22 Simply Sarah

I never really got that. "Don't worry, they're not really crazy! They're just lying through their teeth!"

Which is a hilariously bad selling point. "Oh, they don't mean any of that crazy abortion and birth control talk. They're just lying to the social conservatives to get votes."

Really? So how do I know they're not lying to everyone else to get votes when it comes to fiscal matters, and they're really more interested in protecting their rich friends and donors instead of doing anything for me?

28 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:23:06am

re: #25 Kronocide

Big Tent indeed.

It's a "big tent," alright. Gotta have plenty of space for all the inflated egos. They made room by running the moderates out on a rail.

29 nines09  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:24:13am

re: #26 HappyWarrior

What I don't get are people who take them seriously on the small government stuff. Reagan, Bush, all of them were as if not bigger government than Obama or Clinton. Of course when you point that out you get oh they weren't real conservatives. Always an excuse. Why? Because conservatism as they see it is a fantasy.

They live in a fantasy world that never existed and facts do not mean anything.

30 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:26:14am

re: #26 HappyWarrior

What I don't get are people who take them seriously on the small government stuff. Reagan, Bush, all of them were as if not bigger government than Obama or Clinton. Of course when you point that out you get oh they weren't real conservatives. Always an excuse. Why? Because conservatism as they see it is a fantasy.

No True Conservative.

31 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:29:10am

re: #30 Simply Sarah

No True Conservative.

Exactly. Whenever a conservative fucks up, he's not a true conservative. This will be the excuse for why Mitt lost if he loses.

32 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:30:39am

re: #24 Targetpractice

These guys are serious about getting America's financial house in order!

This explains it. If they swallow this, they'll swallow anything.

33 Lidane  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:30:45am

re: #31 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Whenever a conservative fucks up, he's not a true conservative. This will be the excuse for why Mitt lost if he loses.

I can only imagine what the GOP will turn into in trying to be "true conservatives" next time around. *shudder*

34 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:31:22am

re: #26 HappyWarrior

What I don't get are people who take them seriously on the small government stuff. Reagan, Bush, all of them were as if not bigger government than Obama or Clinton. Of course when you point that out you get oh they weren't real conservatives. Always an excuse. Why? Because conservatism as they see it is a fantasy.

Reagan and Bush did support a "smaller government," but not as the rubes saw it. They supported it through the infamous "Starve the Beast" strategy, moving money upward by cutting taxes hither and yon while at the same time finding methods of killing or strangling revenue streams. The next step, as we see with the "Ryan Plan," is to "solve" the debt crisis created by decades of overspending and undertaxing by gutting the social safety net in its entirety.

35 Achilles Tang  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:31:25am

I honestly suspect these GOP apologists have asked their wives and daughters if there is a war on women and been told no; therefore it is all fiction./

(Of course there is a war against Christians, as we all know.)

36 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:31:36am

re: #33 Lidane

I can only imagine what the GOP will turn into in trying to be "true conservatives" next time around. *shudder*

Santorum will be "next in line." Shudder.

37 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:32:06am

Mr. Priebus? Your party is a classic case of 'the inmates have taken over the asylum.' Sticking fingers in your ears, chanting loudly and retreating to your happy place isn't going to change that.

38 sagehen  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:32:19am

re: #5 Kronocide

What does that make Reince Priebus?

If you disemvowel his name, he's RNC PR BS.

Coincidence? I think not.

39 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:32:56am

re: #35 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

I honestly suspect these GOP apologists have asked their wives and daughters if there is a war on women and been told no; therefore it is all fiction./

(Of course there is a war against Christians, as we all know.)

Him: "Honey, do you think I'm waging a war on women?"
Her: "No dear, I think you're saving unborn lives and ensuring a better America by promoting traditional families!"
Him: "Thanks dear. Now get back to that pot roast, you know I hate when it's too dry."

40 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:33:52am

re: #5 Kronocide

What does that make Reince Priebus?

A man whose name no human being can spell.

41 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:34:24am

I think it basically needs to be pointed out to the "fiscal conservatives" that vote for the GOP because they want "capitalist solutions", screw the social stuff that comes with it, is that both traditionally, as well as currently in most places in the world, liberal economic policy is right wing economic policy. The idea that it's considered on the left in the U.S. is rather insane.

42 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:34:57am

re: #27 Lidane

Which is a hilariously bad selling point. "Oh, they don't mean any of that crazy abortion and birth control talk. They're just lying to the social conservatives to get votes."

Really? So how do I know they're not lying to everyone else to get votes when it comes to fiscal matters, and they're really more interested in protecting their rich friends and donors instead of doing anything for me?

Because 'you're being tricked' is a more comfortable thought than 'I'm being tricked'.

43 Bulworth  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:35:15am

It's not a war on women it's the Democrat party's war on religion and men and the Supreme Court and it's really the Democrat party's war on women. What war on women?!

44 jamesfirecat  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:35:18am

re: #40 Romantic Heretic

A man whose name no human being can spell.

Or Pronounce.

45 alpuz  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:36:26am

re: #37 Romantic Heretic

He's one of the inmates.

46 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:36:33am

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

Because 'you're being tricked' is a more comfortable thought than 'I'm being tricked'.

Pretty much. Being the guy in on the joke is easier to accept that being the one who the joke is on.

47 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:36:39am

I see friends on facebook bemoan that there is no socially liberal and capitalist economic party. The Democrats are pro free market. Not pro the market does no wrong but they're different.

48 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:37:45am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

I see friends on facebook bemoan that there is no socially liberal and capitalist economic party. The Democrats are pro free market the actual capitalists. Not pro the market does no wrong but they're different.

Made a bit more clear.

49 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:38:12am

[Link: www.google.com...]
Sure Mitt, your anti union rhetoric will go over great in PA.

50 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:38:48am

re: #48 Simply Sarah

This is true. People are stupid tho.

51 AK-47%  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:38:57am

re: #33 Lidane

I can only imagine what the GOP will turn into in trying to be "true conservatives" next time around. *shudder*

Rick Santorum. He has all but admitted that he has given up seirous hope of 2012 and is looking towards 2016.

52 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:39:06am

re: #49 HappyWarrior

[Link: www.google.com...]
Sure Mitt, your anti union rhetoric will go over great in PA.

He's up by 6 points in the polls right now, up 23% from earlier this year. Even the Santorum campaign, which might as well have a toe tag right now about now, is calling it a "must-win" for them.

53 Bulworth  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:39:22am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

I see friends on facebook bemoan that there is no socially liberal and capitalist economic party. The Democrats are pro free market. Not pro the market does no wrong but they're different.

Point out to them that the Democrats took the Republicans' "free market" healthcare solution--the infamous individual mandate--and make it a feature of their own healthcare plan. Of course doing so only resulted in a

Government Takeover Of Healthcare! Socialism! Tyranny!

54 zora  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:40:00am

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

Nikki Haley: ‘Women Don’t Care About Contraception’

Defending her party after some of its members spent months going after contraception, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley (R) said today that birth control isn’t very important to women. “Women don’t care about contraception,” she said on The View.

nikki haley makes me sick.

55 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:40:06am

re: #52 Targetpractice

He's up by 6 points in the polls right now, up 23% from earlier this year. Even the Santorum campaign, which might as well have a toe tag right now about now, is calling it a "must-win" for them.

He says he will win PA in the fall.

56 Lidane  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:40:25am

re: #51 Expand Your Ground

Rick Santorum. He has all but admitted that he has given up seirous hope of 2012 and is looking towards 2016.

If he seriously becomes the guy who is next in line and the next "inevitable" nominee, I won't know whether to laugh or cry. At that point, the GOP might as well give up any pretense of being a functioning political party.

57 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:40:38am

re: #53 Bulworth

Point out to them that the Democrats took the Republicans' "free market" healthcare solution--the infamous individual mandate--and make it a feature of their own healthcare plan. Of course doing so only resulted in a

I don't do politics on fb.

58 AK-47%  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:41:21am

re: #54 zora

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

Nikki Haley: ‘Women Don’t Care About Contraception’

nikki haley makes me sick.

Exactly 2% of Catholic women "don't care about contraception".

59 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:41:32am

re: #38 sagehen

If you disemvowel his name, he's RNC PR BS.

Coincidence? I think not.

I try not to make fun of people's names, but I make an exception for Rinsed Prius.

60 Bulworth  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:41:59am

re: #54 zora

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

Nikki Haley: ‘Women Don’t Care About Contraception’


nikki haley makes me sick.

It's like a wind-up doll--wind it up and it spits out "What war on women?" "Women don't care about birth pills", etc.

61 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:42:06am

re: #54 zora

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

Nikki Haley: ‘Women Don’t Care About Contraception’

nikki haley makes me sick.

Delusion thy name is Haley.

62 Bulworth  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:42:28am

re: #57 HappyWarrior

I don't do politics on fb.

Me either, but I just thought I would throw that out there.

63 erik_t  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:42:31am

re: #56 Lidane

If he seriously becomes the guy who is next in line and the next "inevitable" nominee, I won't know whether to laugh or cry. At that point, the GOP might as well give up any pretense of being a functioning national political party.

FTFY, unfortunately.

64 euphgeek  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:43:18am

The Democrats' new ad: "Republicans think women are equivalent to caterpillars!"

65 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:43:30am

re: #62 Bulworth

Me either, but I just thought I would throw that out there.

Yeah it's true though.

66 Lidane  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:43:32am

re: #54 zora

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

Nikki Haley: ‘Women Don’t Care About Contraception’

nikki haley makes me sick.

She's getting ripped apart for that, as she should.

WTF. Women controlling their bodies and their reproductive schedule is what allows a woman to have a career and an education and independence. Of COURSE they care.

67 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:44:30am

re: #46 Targetpractice

Pretty much. Being the guy in on the joke is easier to accept that being the one who the joke is on.

I see people here do it occasionally when someone pops up to freak out about Planned Parenthood. The drill is very often "I'm glad that they were able to help you with non-abortion services, and that's really great, but do you understand that they're really just doing that to provide cover for their extremely profitable abortion business that's really most of what they do? I mean, it's nice that they were able to help you, but they're not telling you the truth about why they do it."

68 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:44:53am

re: #54 zora

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

Nikki Haley: ‘Women Don’t Care About Contraception’

nikki haley makes me sick.

Nikki Haley, she of the 34% approval rating? Another of those coy little strumpets out there amongst the GOP who are swearing that they won't accept a VP nod?

69 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:45:21am

re: #66 Lidane

She's getting ripped apart for that, as she should.

WTF. Women controlling their bodies and their reproductive schedule is what allows a woman to have a career and an education and independence.

You're missing her point. We women don't want to have a career or education or independence. We just want to live at home and take care of the house and kids and, if we're really lucky, be able to write our very own name!

70 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:45:43am

re: #68 Targetpractice

Nikki Haley, she of the 34% approval rating? Another of those coy little strumpets out there amongst the GOP who are swearing that they won't accept a VP nod?

Wow I didnt realize she was unpopular.

71 zora  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:47:34am

re: #64 euphgeek

The Democrats' new ad: "Republicans think women are equivalent to caterpillars!"

and farm animals.

72 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:50:08am

re: #58 Expand Your Ground

Exactly 2% of Catholic women "don't care about contraception".

No, exactly 2% of Catholic women don't USE contraception at some point. What that 2% thinks about contraception is not clear at all.

73 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:51:43am

re: #70 HappyWarrior

Wow I didnt realize she was unpopular.

Yeah, just a year in office and she's headed for Dubya-levels of disapproval amongst the voters. Between rumors of affairs, rumors of corruption, and her spending $127,000 on a "job-hunting expedition" to Europe and then responding to a reporter asking her about it by referring to her as a "little girl," it's amazing that her approval ratings not lower.

74 Lidane  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:52:31am

re: #70 HappyWarrior

Wow I didnt realize she was unpopular.

Oh yeah. Her support pretty much vaporized. She's less popular than John Kasich is in Ohio, IIRC.

75 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:52:55am

re: #69 Simply Sarah

You're missing her point. We women don't want to have a career or education or independence. We just want to live at home and take care of the house and kids and, if we're really lucky, be able to write our very own name!

Except, of course, for Nikki Haley, who's a state governor, and has two children after being married for sixteen years.

76 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:53:18am

re: #73 Targetpractice

Yeah, just a year in office and she's headed for Dubya-levels of disapproval amongst the voters. Between rumors of affairs, rumors of corruption, and her spending $127,000 on a "job-hunting expedition" to Europe and then responding to a reporter asking her about it by referring to her as a "little girl," it's amazing that her approval ratings not lower.

More of that moral values we hear so much about huh.

77 RadicalModerate  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:53:29am

re: #51 Expand Your Ground

Rick Santorum. He has all but admitted that he has given up seirous hope of 2012 and is looking towards 2016.

And here I was so looking forward to seeing a repeat of this image come election day.

Image: santorum-family.jpg

78 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:54:41am

re: #77 RadicalModerate

And here I was so looking forward to seeing a repeat of this image come election day.

Image: santorum-family.jpg

That little girl's face will be Mitt's off camera come November.. It will kill him that the American people don't want him.

79 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:55:17am

re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist

Except, of course, for Nikki Haley, who's a state governor, and has two children after being married for sixteen years.

Shush! We will have none of your logic and reason here!

80 AK-47%  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:55:34am

re: #72 SanFranciscoZionist

No, exactly 2% of Catholic women don't USE contraception at some point. What that 2% thinks about contraception is not clear at all.

You pick a good nit.

So I will clarify just for the sake of pusilanimity: That 2% that do not use contraceptives is probably a lot less concerned about whether contraceptives would be available to them or not than the remaining 98% who use them.

81 dragonfire1981  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:55:44am

I am thinking at this point the only possible thing the GOP can use to hurt Obama as far as the general election is concerned is gas prices.

If prices go up through the summer (likely) and CONTINUE to go up through the fall, the GOP could run a PR campaign blaming Obama over and over and over for high gas prices and telling voters that voting Republican will lower them.

Since Big Oil is friendly to the GOP, they could also conspire to help drive gas prices up and turn up public frustration against Obama.

Of course, there's a good chance this WON'T happen, but we are fools if we honestly believe Mitt Romney has ZERO chance of being elected in November. It's not quite THAT open and shut yet.

82 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:55:50am

re: #77 RadicalModerate

And here I was so looking forward to seeing a repeat of this image come election day.

Image: santorum-family.jpg

The kids are older now...except for Isabella, who's three, and probably wouldn't care that much.

83 AK-47%  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:56:51am

re: #81 dragonfire1981

I see that not as their fallback position, but as their main strategy at this point. Women care about gas prices...

84 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:59:38am

re: #82 SanFranciscoZionist

The kids are older now...except for Isabella, who's three, and probably wouldn't care that much.

They have a daughter that young? Then again my Dad was 50 when my brother was born.

85 Lidane  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 10:59:39am

re: #81 dragonfire1981

Of course, there's a good chance this WON'T happen, but we are fools if we honestly believe Mitt Romney has ZERO chance of being elected in November. It's not quite THAT open and shut yet.

Nothing is open and shut until the votes are counted, and it's a long way between now and the election. Anything can happen.

I'm hopeful that President Obama will get a second term, but it's clearly too soon to say that he's got the election in the bag.

86 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:00:18am

re: #77 RadicalModerate

And here I was so looking forward to seeing a repeat of this image come election day.

Image: santorum-family.jpg

And the boy looks frightened out of his wits. As if an eyebrow twitches wrong it will be willow switching time.

87 Achilles Tang  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:01:54am

re: #54 zora

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

Nikki Haley: ‘Women Don’t Care About Contraception’

nikki haley makes me sick.

She could be the twin sister of that one who is not a witch.

88 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:04:35am

So we women are so stupid that we will just believe anything the media tells us, huh?

But now we're gonna be stupid enough to believe what this douchebag tells us instead, as long as it gets repeated enough times.

89 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:05:53am

re: #81 dragonfire1981

I am thinking at this point the only possible thing the GOP can use to hurt Obama as far as the general election is concerned is gas prices.

If prices go up through the summer (likely) and CONTINUE to go up through the fall, the GOP could run a PR campaign blaming Obama over and over and over for high gas prices and telling voters that voting Republican will lower them.

Since Big Oil is friendly to the GOP, they could also conspire to help drive gas prices up and turn up public frustration against Obama.

Of course, there's a good chance this WON'T happen, but we are fools if we honestly believe Mitt Romney has ZERO chance of being elected in November. It's not quite THAT open and shut yet.

I'd be more worried about the economic effects of high gas prices than the prices themselves. Especially in light of oil production and consumption being at highs and lows not seen in decades. And the overall reality that America's oil production does not constitute enough of a percentage of the world's overall production to drive prices up or down. We simply don't pump out enough crude in a year to make even OPEC break a sweat.

90 Achilles Tang  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:06:15am

re: #77 RadicalModerate

And here I was so looking forward to seeing a repeat of this image come election day.

Image: santorum-family.jpg

To be fair, rapid fire still photography can always come up with a weird facial expression if that is what one is hunting for; however my thought was how the girl is dressed. If I didn't know better I might have thought she was a budding FLDS bride to be.

91 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:07:27am

re: #90 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

To be fair, rapid fire still photography can always come up with a weird facial expression if that is what one is hunting for; however my thought was how the girl is dressed. If I didn't know better I might have thought she was a budding FLDS bride to be.

Oh come on. Her outfit is fine.

92 Achilles Tang  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:09:09am

re: #91 Simply Sarah

Oh come on. Her outfit is fine.

I admit, I couldn't see if her ankles were showing.

93 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:11:30am

re: #74 Lidane

Oh yeah. Her support pretty much vaporized. She's less popular than John Kasich is in Ohio, IIRC.

Colbert asked her if she was an anchor baby.

95 Lidane  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:12:28am

re: #93 RayFerd

Colbert asked her if she was an anchor baby.

Seriously? Haha. That's awesome. XD

96 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:15:30am

re: #94 jaunte

"It should tell the American mainstream something important when the GOP moves so far to the ideological extreme that it's no longer the Party of Reagan"

Obama and the others are right. Reagan the abstract would win yes but Reagan the reality would struggle.

97 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:15:36am

re: #94 jaunte

"It should tell the American mainstream something important when the GOP moves so far to the ideological extreme that it's no longer the Party of Reagan"

I've said before that the Cult of Reagan worships at the altar of Ronaldus Magnus, the campaign icon rather than Ronald Reagan, the actual president.

98 AK-47%  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:16:21am

re: #89 Targetpractice

I'd be more worried about the economic effects of high gas prices than the prices themselves. Especially in light of oil production and consumption being at highs and lows not seen in decades. And the overall reality that America's oil production does not constitute enough of a percentage of the world's overall production to drive prices up or down. We simply don't pump out enough crude in a year to make even OPEC break a sweat.

That has little to do with it. The GOP will go to great lengths to insist that it is Obama's rejection of the Keystone Pipeline and his refusal to loosen all those pesky environmental regulations that is choking US production and driving up gasoline prices.

And there will be enough people who buy that argument.

99 Achilles Tang  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:17:48am

re: #94 jaunte

"It should tell the American mainstream something important when the GOP moves so far to the ideological extreme that it's no longer the Party of Reagan"

"I actually think Ronald Reagan would win handily in a primary and frankly in all the primaries," Romney told a group of newspaper editors [Wednesday].

Translation: "I knew Reagan, and I'm no Reagan."

100 erik_t  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:19:01am

Mittens knows that four years is just the right amount of time to spend at Harvard. And also that four is less than three. Or something.

Speaking in Harrisburg, Pa., Romney told an audience that Obama may have spent “too much time at Harvard,” according to NBC. Obama, who has a law degree from Harvard, spent three years there. Romney, who earned both a Harvard law degree and business degree, spent four years at the university...

101 Lidane  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:20:02am

re: #100 erik_t

Mittens knows that four years is just the right amount of time to spend at Harvard. And also that four is less than three. Or something.

*sigh*

Seven more months of this shit. Ugh.

102 Achilles Tang  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:20:13am

re: #100 erik_t

That logic is so weird, I don't get the point at all.

103 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:20:42am

re: #101 Lidane

*sigh*

Seven more months of this shit. Ugh.

Oh, I'm sure it won't stop with the election, regardless the results.

104 erik_t  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:20:45am

re: #97 Targetpractice

I've said before that the Cult of Reagan worships at the altar of Ronaldus Magnus, the campaign icon rather than Ronald Reagan, the actual president.

The GOP is a religion, not a cohesive and grounded political entity.

105 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:21:08am

re: #98 Expand Your Ground

That has little to do with it. The GOP will go to great lengths to insist that it is Obama's rejection of the Keystone Pipeline and his refusal to loosen all those pesky environmental regulations that is choking US production and driving up gasoline prices.

And there will be enough people who buy that argument.

I'd meet that with ads about how the GOP rejected an amendment to the Highway Bill, itself one big giveaway to the oil and gas companies, that would have banned export of oil and byproducts from the Keystone XL line. Or ads about the earthquakes that have been traced back to natural gas fracking, along with the tap water in towns that's as flammable as kerosene. Or hell, just one ad showing the infamous apology to BP execs because they were being told to put money aside for victims of the Deepwater Horizon spill.

There's plenty of fodder for ads that would put Big Oil on the defensive.

106 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:21:53am

re: #102 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

Mitt's trying to connect with the Rubes. So he tries to claim that Obama is elitist because he attended Harvard for three years - but he's not even as he did both undergrad and grad school there. Yeah, pretzel logic is in effect...

107 Sionainn  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:21:55am

re: #67 SanFranciscoZionist

I see people here do it occasionally when someone pops up to freak out about Planned Parenthood. The drill is very often "I'm glad that they were able to help you with non-abortion services, and that's really great, but do you understand that they're really just doing that to provide cover for their extremely profitable abortion business that's really most of what they do? I mean, it's nice that they were able to help you, but they're not telling you the truth about why they do it."

Just had a ridiculous argument about this exact thing with a conservative a few days ago.

108 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:22:44am

re: #101 Lidane

7 months and 4 years with the four years after Obama gets reelected seeing the rhetoric dialed up even higher and more intensely.

109 Sionainn  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:23:07am

re: #90 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

To be fair, rapid fire still photography can always come up with a weird facial expression if that is what one is hunting for; however my thought was how the girl is dressed. If I didn't know better I might have thought she was a budding FLDS bride to be.

The FLDS women wear solid colors.

110 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:23:24am

re: #100 erik_t

Mittens knows that four years is just the right amount of time to spend at Harvard. And also that four is less than three. Or something.

What a smug dick this guy is. Can't wait for his career to end.

111 Lidane  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:24:21am

re: #110 HappyWarrior

What a smug dick this guy is. Can't wait for his career to end.

His career ended years ago. No one's had the heart to tell him, so we're going to be stuck with listening to him for another seven months. Ugh.

112 jamesfirecat  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:24:52am

re: #97 Targetpractice

I've said before that the Cult of Reagan worships at the altar of Ronaldus Magnus, the campaign icon rather than Ronald Reagan, the actual president.

Ronald Reagan is to the GOP as the God Emperor of Mankind is to the Imperium Of Man. Something to be respected, worshiped, but whose teachings have either been lost, misunderstood or actively altered.

113 SmithCommaJohn  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:24:58am

When faced with the realization a political strategy that relies heavily on unflinching misogyny isn't working too well, I assumed the GOP would either re-examine its stances and rhetoric on issues that are important to women (unlikely, but wouldn't it be nice?), or start a campaign to repeal the 19th Amendment.

I didn't consider the "pitiful backpedaling" option. Though, in retrospect, it's the most obvious one.

114 Lidane  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:25:23am

re: #108 lawhawk

7 months and 4 years with the four years after Obama gets reelected seeing the rhetoric dialed up even higher and more intensely.

I can't imagine how they're going to dial up the derp and idiocy. Or what we're going to see from the RWNJ blogs if Obama gets a second term.

115 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:25:44am

re: #111 Lidane

His career ended years ago. No one's had the heart to tell him, so we're going to be stuck with listening to him for another seven months. Ugh.

Officially I mean. I wish Obama or his surrogates would point that the Founders that are so idealized were Ivy League men by and large. And what would be called ""elitists" today.

116 allegro  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:25:54am

re: #112 jamesfirecat

Ronald Reagan is to the GOP as the God Emperor of Mankind is to the Imperium Of Man. Something to be respected, worshiped, but whose teachings have either been lost, misunderstood or actively altered.

Kinda like Jesus.

117 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:26:49am

re: #112 jamesfirecat

Ronald Reagan is to the GOP as the God Emperor of Mankind is to the Imperium Of Man. Something to be respected, worshiped, but whose teachings have either been lost, misunderstood or actively altered.

Aww, I was hoping you were going to say he was a shriveled up sorta still alive corpse hooked up to a machine keeping him some semblance of alive.

118 Obdicut  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:27:53am

re: #117 Simply Sarah

Erch. That's a little ghoulish. It could be interpreted you were talking about the actual person, Reagan, and not the concept, Reagan.

119 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:28:28am

re: #118 Obdicut

Erch. That's a little ghoulish. It could be interpreted you were talking about the actual person, Reagan, and not the concept, Reagan.

Either works, really!
/

120 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:28:46am

re: #95 Lidane

Seriously? Haha. That's awesome. XD

Yeah, I think it was this past Monday nights episode that she was on. Couldn't find a clip right off.

121 Obdicut  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:29:25am

re: #119 Simply Sarah

I hope not. Seriously, even in sarcasm, that's pretty ghoulish.

122 jamesfirecat  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:30:22am

re: #117 Simply Sarah

Aww, I was hoping you were going to say he was a shriveled up sorta still alive corpse hooked up to a machine keeping him some semblance of alive.

//No that would be Dick Cheney.

123 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:30:49am

re: #116 allegro

Kinda like Jesus.

There will be no talk of your false gods here! Accursed heretics.
/

124 Amory Blaine  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:31:50am

re: #114 Lidane

I can't imagine how they're going to dial up the derp and idiocy. Or what we're going to see from the RWNJ blogs if Obama gets a second term.

I would say the think tanks are coming up with something and it ain't gonna be pretty.

125 AK-47%  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:32:26am

re: #105 Targetpractice

I'd meet that with ads about how the GOP rejected an amendment to the Highway Bill, itself one big giveaway to the oil and gas companies, that would have banned export of oil and byproducts from the Keystone XL line. Or ads about the earthquakes that have been traced back to natural gas fracking, along with the tap water in towns that's as flammable as kerosene. Or hell, just one ad showing the infamous apology to BP execs because they were being told to put money aside for victims of the Deepwater Horizon spill.

There's plenty of fodder for ads that would put Big Oil on the defensive.

That is too much nuance. Subsidies and the workings of the world energy market are too abstract and compley for their target electorate.

The GOP is going with the fact that most Americans will feel the squeeze at the pump and look about for a culprit, which they will provide in the form of a President who refuses to drill, baby drill.

126 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:32:48am

re: #122 jamesfirecat

No that would be Dick Cheney.

Dick Cheney is the Emperor of Mankind? No wonder things are so fucked up.
/

127 Amory Blaine  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:33:17am

re: #110 HappyWarrior

What a smug dick this guy is. Can't wait for his career to end.

I'm just glad he's gone from Wisconsin politics however we have 100s more where he came from. Sigh.

128 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:34:18am

re: #125 Expand Your Ground

That is too much nuance. Subsidies and the workings of the world energy market are too abstract and compley for their target electorate.

The GOP is going with the fact that most Americans will feel the squeeze at the pump and loko for a culprit, which they will provide in the form of a President who refuses to drill, baby drill.

I've seen Obama ads already out there talking about the "All the Above" strategy being taken to energy needs as well as the rising production/dropping consumption of oil in the US. That's the sort of ad I'd say would work as a good counter.

129 YoungLochinvar  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:39:52am

re: #53 Bulworth

I think the new talking point is that Republicans never actually believed in an individual mandate - it was simply an idea a couple of them tossed out in response to HillaryCare (or whatever they were calling it back then), but nobody in the party actually liked it or believed in it...

130 S'latch  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:41:03am

This election is going to be particularly sad for the GOP because they will learn nothing from it. When they lose, they will blame it on Mitt Romney's "moderation" instead of their own right wing extremism. It is going to be sad to watch.

131 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:41:34am

re: #121 Obdicut

I hope not. Seriously, even in sarcasm, that's pretty ghoulish.

In that case, I suppose maybe I shouldn't also mention that he ended up in that state after fighting to the death with his son Ron after Ron was corrupted by the forces of Progressivism and bestowed with the power of its four major gods: the fierce Teddy, the sickly Frankie, the sexual Jack, and the crafty Lyndon?
/ I don't know the meaning of pushing things too far.

132 jamesfirecat  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:43:36am

re: #131 Simply Sarah

In that case, I suppose maybe I shouldn't also mention that he ended up in that state after fighting to the death with his son Ron after Ron was corrupted by the forces of Progressivism and bestowed with the power of its four major gods: the fierce Teddy, the sickly Frankie, the sexual Jack, and the crafty Lyndon?
/ I don't know the meaning of pushing things too far.

Shouldn't Clinton be the Progressive Equivalent of Slaanesh?

133 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:45:07am

re: #132 jamesfirecat

Shouldn't Clinton be the Progressive Equivalent of Slaanesh?

I dunno. Jack Kennedy was pretty active himself, he's more of an icon, and he came before Reagan (That's what she said).

134 sean6886politik  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:45:18am

So, we have Nikki Haley going on the view to say women don't care about contraception, we have (cannot remember her name) the woman who wants to take women's rights back to the 40's giving a speech at the Citidel telling the students not to date feminists and now we have the chair of the RNC comparing this very important issue to catipillars. Oh, and don't forget Etch-A-Sketch RMoney will be singing the praises of women after promising to take away Planned Parenthood.
Me thinks the Rethugs don't like women.

135 Obdicut  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:48:54am

re: #131 Simply Sarah

Well, that's more clearly satire. It's all subjective.

136 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:52:24am

re: #135 Obdicut

Ghoulish satire:

137 Obdicut  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:57:45am

Wow, now this is passive aggression in its purest.

Someone used our debit card, the bank canceled it. My wife posted on her facebook on how annoying it was to have her card canceled right now during finals week.

Her holier-than-thou horse-farm-owning friend replied:

I guess I'll never understand the method of thinking that leaves people without even $10 in their pocket, and using debit cards for everything... Being 'owned' by the banks and their electronic systems just doesn't appeal to me. Yet it's so common these days..

138 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 12:00:27pm

LOL! The ad I'm getting is for Christian maternity clothing!!!!!!

139 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 12:00:56pm

re: #137 Obdicut

Is he one of those guys who will rail about Big Pharma and such?

140 erik_t  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 12:03:05pm

re: #137 Obdicut

Wow, now this is passive aggression in its purest.

Someone used our debit card, the bank canceled it. My wife posted on her facebook on how annoying it was to have her card canceled right now during finals week.

Her holier-than-thou horse-farm-owning friend replied:

I actually find it quite appealing to not have an artificial limitation on how much of my money is rapidly and readily accessible to me, and not having to worry about losing that money if I lose my wallet or whatever, aside from the temporary inconvenience caused thereby, this worst-case scenario requiring me to simply show up at the bank in person in order to get money for a week or two.

Different strokes, I guess.

141 Obdicut  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 12:03:28pm

re: #139 The Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost of a Ghost

Is he one of those guys who will rail about Big Pharma and such?

She, and I don't know her that well, just that she's offered us refuge at her horse farm in the case of an apocalyptic meltdown of society. But I couldn't stand how smug she'd be if we did, so instead our apocalypse hidey-hole is my survivalist friend in the Sierras, who was rejected by the army for being 'too militant', but is a really sweet man and more heavily armed.

142 Shvaughn  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 12:55:12pm

re: #137 Obdicut

Her holier-than-thou horse-farm-owning friend replied:

I guess I'll never understand the method of thinking that leaves people without even $10 in their pocket, and using debit cards for everything... Being 'owned' by the banks and their electronic systems just doesn't appeal to me. Yet it's so common these days..

This is why you got own GOLD!!!1! LUAP NOR!!

//

143 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 12:55:41pm
“If the Democrats said we had a war on caterpillars and every mainstream media outlet talked about the fact that Republicans have a war on caterpillars, then we’d have problems with caterpillars,”

You have a problem, but it's not with caterpillars. You have a problem with perception and dated rhetoric.

I'd say that at least 80% of the news I consume does not come from traditional, mainstream media sources. I get that 80% from the internet, which forces me, at least, to be more critical of the news I consume, and scrutinize the sources more carefully.

This added diligence on my part, BTW, has translated to an added diligence on all news sources, including traditional, mainstream media outlets.

And speaking of that other 20% of news I consume, I myself have not heard very much from the mainstream media about any kind of "War on Women".

Reince, you're trying to torch a strawman that has already been burnt to ash.

Heh, I actually saw him for the first time on television recently, and found him shockingly young. I always figured a name like "Reince Preibus" would belong to a man in his late 70's or early 80's.

144 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 1:29:34pm

re: #105 Targetpractice

I'd meet that with ads about how the GOP rejected an amendment to the Highway Bill, itself one big giveaway to the oil and gas companies, that would have banned export of oil and byproducts from the Keystone XL line

Over and over and over.

145 jaunte  Thu, Apr 5, 2012 7:51:56pm

Does Reince Priebus know any women?

146 Patricia Kayden  Fri, Apr 6, 2012 1:53:51pm

Preibus is nuts and clueless. Hope he stays in denial all the way up to the elections.


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