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Rodan Exposed: The Shocking Audio

Revealing audio of the founder of “The Blogmocracy” and “The Diary of Daedalus”
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CONTENT WARNING: Listener discretion is advised. The following video (audio) contains explicit language, hate speech, racial slurs, and violent rhetoric including descriptions of past incidents of violent crimes as described by the subject.

ADDITIONAL WARNING: Rodan also drops the N-Word towards the end of the audio.

The following is an audio recording of Rodan (real name: Rick Martinez) as described in the captioned text below the audio.

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Rick Martinez (aka “Rodan”)

The subject is Rodan (aka Trajan 75, Emporer Palpatine, et al). Rodan began as webmaster for Think Progress Watch and is currently the webmaster and primary functionary at The Blogmocracy and The Diary of Daedalus.

The Diary of Daedalus is a site dedicated to the tracking and harassment of Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs and members of Little Green Footballs. It has been previously cited in blogs or on Twitter by Andrew Breitbart; Dan Riehl of Riehlworldview; Donald Douglas of American Power; R.S. McCain of The Other McCain; Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch; and others.

Please note that I am not the creator of said video nor am I affiliated with the uploader of said video on Youtube. This is not an endorsement of his or her beliefs whatever they may be. Also note that this is all public information and this video/audio has been present on Youtube since 2009. The purpose of this information herein is to reveal the true nature and background of the creator and webmaster for The Blogmocracy and The Diary of Daedalus most commonly known as Rodan.

This description is from the original post at YouTube; Rodan and his followers reported the video for “hate speech” and got it pulled from YouTube. (Yes, they reported their own founder for hate speech.) It’s now hosted at LGF so they can’t make it disappear.

Rodan a.k.a. Emporer Palpatine shares his thoughts on Muslims, and gives anecdotes in regards to the Muslims he “sliced and diced” in the early 90’s.

The recording you are about to hear was recorded on the morning of June 6th, 2009 at approximately 3:40 AM.

It was recorded in “Wine Drinkers kick ass”; the room of Emporer Palpatine a.k.a. Rodan.

The following rant given by Rodan is recorded as it was, with the exception of a pause to insert Marlen2008’s text.

This, although heard by a select few, is being released after 6 months. We feel that it is time for this recording to be made public.

The subject matter may be shocking. Listener discretion is advised.

Related:
‘Diary of Daedalus’ Stalker Blog Links to Pro-Turner Diaries Video
Andrew Breitbart and ‘The Turner Diaries’

Update 4/19/2014: Glenn Greenwald Links to Diary of Daedalus in order to smear Charles.

In Which Glenn Greenwald Smears Me by Citing a Faked Graphic at a Far Right Hate Site

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339 comments

1 SpaceJesus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 2:50:35pm

This is the same guy who posts graphic videos celebrating genocide in the Balkans. He's a fascist, and a Reaganite.

2 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 2:52:21pm

What a nasty little man.

3 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 2:57:55pm

BOO-YAH!!!

4 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:01:11pm

re: #1 SpaceJesus

This is the same guy who posts graphic videos celebrating genocide in the Balkans. He's a fascist, and a Reaganite.

He supports "REAGAN!!1". The actual Ronald W. Reagan would think Dorkus a nutcase and would have nothing to do with him.

5 jaunte  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:01:58pm

What an idiot.

6 researchok  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:02:35pm

Long term job security for a clinical therapist.

Very, very long term.

7 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:04:07pm

Join a criminal street gang, and speak with pride about your violent, criminal activities.

That's not just un-American, that's anti-American.

8 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:05:52pm

re: #7 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Join a criminal street gang, and speak with pride about your violent, criminal activities.

That's not just un-American, that's anti-American.

And he's who the Stalkers take as one of their leaders? So those listening to that audio should feel no sympathy for the banned, unless they direct that same sympathy toward the devil.

9 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:09:18pm

re: #1 SpaceJesus

This is the same guy who posts graphic videos celebrating genocide in the Balkans. He's a fascist, and a Reaganite.

Only in the TPer/RWNJ sense in that they worship and co-opt a Reagan that never existed and ignore the one that did.

10 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:10:12pm

Get a load of this munted sack:

I think Rodan is a genious and people need to follow him. We need to respect Rodan. If the LATIN KINGS take care of the terrorists then God bless them and God bless Rodan, we love u

neferteasin 1 year ago

Yes, God bless violent street gangs. Pussies worshiping pussies.

11 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:10:58pm

Gus, I just have to say it:

BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!!!

Seriously, good find.

12 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:14:17pm

Since I can't upding this Page more than once, I gave everyone who has commented so far a free upding.

And let me also say, if you're a member of a criminal gang, you're every bit a terrorist and enemy of America as is a member of Al-Qaeda. No respect.

13 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:15:05pm

Help spread this around, folks - if you belong to Facebook or Twitter, please post it there.

14 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:16:09pm

re: #12 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Yep, not only is Rick Martinez a neo-fascist who loves Pinochet, Franco and Serb war criminals like Scorpions, he also belongs in prison.

15 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:16:33pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Help spread this around, folks - if you belong to Facebook or Twitter, please post it there.

Charles, perhaps this Page should be promoted to the front page? If not right now, then later today.

16 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:17:16pm

re: #15 Dark_Falcon

Charles, perhaps this Page should be promoted to the front page? If not right now, then later today.

Or at least keep it at the top of the Pages for a week. Just a suggestion.

17 jaunte  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:18:27pm
18 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:20:16pm

Gus, you have made my day. I hate fascists, and I hate gang bangers. The only way this could be better is if he were a zombie on top of all that. Fuck that wimpy douche bag.

19 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:20:27pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Help spread this around, folks - if you belong to Facebook or Twitter, please post it there.

Thank you. But now I have to run, BBL.

20 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:21:42pm

Promoted. And I also set the video to start after that too-long intro.

21 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:22:30pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Promoted. And I also set the video to start after that too-long intro.

Great. Thanks. Was thinking about doing that with the video. The intro would lose a lot of people.

22 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:22:48pm

I predict a frenzy of flaming, stalker butt-hurt.

23 jaunte  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:24:18pm

RS McCain, who cites a moronic fascist gang-banger to bolster his credibility:

"[T]he media now force interracial images into the public mind and a number of perfectly rational people react to these images with an altogether natural revulsion. The white person who does not mind transacting business with a black bank clerk may yet be averse to accepting the clerk as his sister-in-law, and THIS IS NOT RACISM, no matter what Madison Avenue, Hollywood and Washington tell us."
[Link: holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com...]

24 allegro  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:28:26pm

re: #23 jaunte

The white person who does not mind transacting business with a black bank clerk may yet be averse to accepting the clerk as his sister-in-law, and THIS IS NOT RACISM,..

Yeah, actually it is, numbnuts.

25 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:32:53pm

So how long before we hear self proclaimed patriots jumping to the defense of a POS gang banger?

26 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:33:17pm

re: #25 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

So how long before we hear self proclaimed patriots jumping to the defense of a POS gang banger?

15 minutes?

27 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:33:51pm

BRB

28 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:34:47pm

re: #26 Gus

Won't he just deny it's him or say it's made up or something?

29 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:35:44pm

re: #28 Obdicut

Won't he just deny it's him or say it's made up or something?

No, turns out he posted the vid yesterday and admitted it's him. He says he's been drunk and is only embarrassed a bit about the use of the n-word, which was due to him using the NY language.

30 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:37:44pm

The lice are of course all pooh-poohing the vid and defending their racist psycho blogmaster.

31 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:39:18pm

re: #29 Johnny Derp

Wow. What a turd. I think this is the same dude who defends the massacres of Jews and Muslims that occurred during the Reconquista.

32 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:39:35pm

Charles, I think it could be useful to add the link to goddamnfrank's page at the bottom of this article.

33 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:43:30pm

What a cheap little hoodlum.

34 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:43:39pm

re: #29 Johnny Derp

No, turns out he posted the vid yesterday and admitted it's him. He says he's been drunk and is only embarrassed a bit about the use of the n-word, which was due to him using the NY language.

In other words, Rodan's not really sorry about what he said, he's sorry that it got out and that he's had to address it.

Amirite?

35 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:44:09pm

re: #23 jaunte

It's really time for this whole seam of racist assholes to realize their time is over and shut the fuck up. Stop trying to think that you're going to be accepted, that somehow there'll be some division of the races. Race will remain as it always was, a factor of proximity, and our nation will continue to have its citizens mix freely.

Bow-chicka-bow-bow.

36 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:44:21pm

re: #31 Obdicut

Wow. What a turd. I think this is the same dude who defends the massacres of Jews and Muslims that occurred during the Reconquista.

He does. The conquest and settlement of Spain by Muslims, however, was 'genocide'.

37 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:44:36pm

re: #34 talon_262

In other words, Rodan's not really sorry about what he said, he's sorry that it got out and that he's had to address it.

Amirite?

Sure, and his posse of jackoffs looks the other way (with admiration).

38 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:46:38pm

And, well, I am glad I do not live in that angry head.

39 gummitch  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:47:30pm

Rodan aka Trajan aka a bunch of other stupid handles, used to haunt the comment section at Think Progress (hence the hysterically lame Think Progress Watch, which was mocked for a time by Think Progress Watch Watch). He spent a lot of time trying to convince others of his bizarre interpretation of history and to convince everyone he was a bad ass Latin King. Truly one of the stupidest asshats on the Inner Tubes.

40 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:47:51pm

re: #38 Dancing along the light of day

And, well, I am glad I do not live in that angry head.

You'd be swimming in a sea of rancid insanity...

41 Bob Dillon  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:50:45pm

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QuitStalkingMe.com
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State Cyberstalking Laws
ConnectSafely.org

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42 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:51:49pm

I knew that a lot of racism went underground after the '60s making it look like we were entering a post-racism era, but I had assumed the amount of racism was actually decreasing. It looks like racism may indeed dominate fewer people, but those who remain convinced of a racial hierarchy are becoming more vocal and seemingly starting to adopt PR tactics from anti-evolution, pro-smoking and anti-AGW. It may not be long before more become convinced of validity of the racist mantra.

43 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:52:32pm

National Review just fired Derbyshire:

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

44 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:53:17pm

Wow, Just, Wow. I am glad that the weather is nice enough for me to open a window to let the stench from that rant vent to the outside.

45 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:53:55pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

National Review just fired Derbyshire:

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

That was inevitable.

46 jaunte  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:54:05pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

"Derb has long danced around the line on these issues..."

"But now we're caught."

47 erik_t  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:54:12pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

National Review just fired Derbyshire:

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

I did not expect that.

I am poorer by one internet cookie, but I am richer in mind and spirit.

48 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:54:52pm

ONOZ! They restricted the Derb's freedom of speeeeech!!!1 ///

49 dragonfire1981  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:55:16pm

Here we see the power of the Internet in all its glory. Before the Web, people like Rodan would have been limited to underground newsletters and fringe group get togethers.

Now they can get millions of viewers/readers/listeners,spread their hate far more widely and make a bit of money in the process.

50 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:55:31pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

National Review just fired Derbyshire:

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

Obama had him silenced! His freedom of speech was infringed!

51 SpaceJesus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:55:36pm

re: #9 talon_262

Reagan never raised taxes!

52 dragonfire1981  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:55:44pm

Also, OT, but George Takei has got to be one of the most awesome people in America:

53 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:56:07pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

National Review just fired Derbyshire:

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

That happened quicker than most expected. There were even a few that expected it not to happen.

54 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:56:13pm

re: #51 SpaceJesus

Reagan never raised taxes!

Santa Claus lives at the North Pole.

55 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:56:56pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

National Review just fired Derbyshire:

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

Wow...I didn't think they'd have the stones to do it, especially this soon.

Now, Derb gets to live out his self-fulfilling prophecy as a Martyr to the Conservative Cause and his sycophants will fill blogs everywhere with wailing and gnashing of teeth.

I love it...

56 erik_t  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:57:43pm

re: #55 talon_262

Wow...I didn't think they'd have the stones to do it, especially this soon.

Now, Derb gets to live out his self-fulfilling prophecy as a Martyr to the Conservative Cause and his sycophants will fill blogs everywhere with wailing and gnashing of teeth.

I love it...

NRINOs!!!!

57 Lidane  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:58:24pm

re: #46 jaunte

"Derb has long danced around the line on these issues..."

"But now we're caught."

Seriously. In 2003 he admitted that he was both a homophobe and a racist. In 2009 he was arguing that women should not have the right to vote because it's bad for conservatism.

It's amazing that it took an outright blatant piece of obvious racism that even NRO couldn't avoid or spin for them to finally fire him, but if you read what Lowry says, it's more because Derbyshire is identified as a National Review writer and is generating bad press for them than anything else.

58 dragonfire1981  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:58:50pm

re: #45 Johnny Derp

That was inevitable.

BREAKING NEWS! Breitbart.com hires John Derbyshire!

//

59 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:58:56pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

So that's what it takes.

But this kind of more subtle race-baiting shit is fine:

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

60 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:59:39pm

re: #51 SpaceJesus

Again, Reagan helped to unleash so much of this. Don't forget his speech in Philadelphia, MS.

Beneath the grandfatherly image was a vicious person and flamboyant racist.

61 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:59:41pm

re: #42 No Monkey Man (Born With a Banana in my Hand)

I knew that a lot of racism went underground after the '60s making it look like we were entering a post-racism era, but I had assumed the amount of racism was actually decreasing. It looks like racism may indeed dominate fewer people, but those who remain convinced of a racial hierarchy are becoming more vocal and seemingly starting to adopt PR tactics from anti-evolution, pro-smoking and anti-AGW. It may not be long before more become convinced of validity of the racist mantra.

It's too easy to ignore the amplification/replication effect of the new media. I was raised in the urban North in the 40s-50s and live in the deep South now. We're not in Beulah-land, but we really have come a long way. When you watch the kids, you know we're not going back.

62 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 3:59:48pm

re: #58 dragonfire1981

I don't think that one needs sarc tags.

63 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:00:26pm

re: #51 SpaceJesus

Reagan never raised taxes!

//And the Easter Bunny will be by tomorrow as well.

////Wife is expecting a large chocolate bunny.

64 dragonfire1981  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:01:18pm

re: #59 Obdicut

So that's what it takes.

But this kind of more subtle race-baiting shit is fine:

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

It's that thing where you can write an article and kind of sort of imply that blacks aren't really good people and you can kind of sort of imply that sometimes you need to defend yourself against them and you can kind of sort of imply that the police won't always be there to help you but you can't come right out and say: "Shoot all the N*****S!"

There is still a line there, though it appears to be rapidly deteriorating.

65 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:01:29pm

re: #39 gummitch

Rodan aka Trajan aka a bunch of other stupid handles, used to haunt the comment section at Think Progress (hence the hysterically lame Think Progress Watch, which was mocked for a time by Think Progress Watch Watch). He spent a lot of time trying to convince others of his bizarre interpretation of history and to convince everyone he was a bad ass Latin King. Truly one of the stupidest asshats on the Inner Tubes.

A friend's son went through a phase where he tried to convince his friends (at the School of the Madeleine, in Berkeley) that he was a badass gangsta thug, because he was black. They believed him, because, well, they also went to the School of the Madeleine, and they didn't know from gangsta thugs.

But he was in the fourth grade, and he cut it out after a while because it was stupid, and he was too mature for that stuff.

66 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:01:58pm

re: #63 Bubblehead II

//And the Easter Bunny will be by tomorrow as well.

No, he won't.

67 dragonfire1981  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:02:23pm

re: #62 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

I don't think that one needs sarc tags.

Neither do I, I simply added them to make it clear that what I posted was NOT an actual happening...yet.

68 Amory Blaine  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:03:24pm

Video removed.

69 abolitionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:04:53pm

re: #36 SanFranciscoZionist

He does. The conquest and settlement of Spain by Muslims, however, was 'genocide'.

When I watched Chocolat, one of the things I noticed was the architecture. The entire township was a walled fortress on a hilltop.

70 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:04:55pm

re: #68 Amory Blaine

This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy prohibiting hate speech.

YouTube has been stupidly selective about applying that standard. I think Gus has a back up, though.

71 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:05:56pm

re: #70 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

I can agree with you about that. I guarantee that Rodan flagged it or something.

72 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:06:42pm

re: #66 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

No, he's not.

How much?

73 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:09:16pm

re: #71 ProGunLiberal

I can agree with you about that. I guarantee that Rodan flagged it or something.

I don't doubt it. That video has been on YT for how many years? And then the day it gets featured here, poof.

Not that I necessarily disagree with YT's policy on hate speech, I just call "bullshit" on their lax and interpretive application of it.

74 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:09:26pm

re: #57 Lidane

Seriously. In 2003 he admitted that he was both a homophobe and a racist. In 2009 he was arguing that women should not have the right to vote because it's bad for conservatism.

It's amazing that it took an outright blatant piece of obvious racism that even NRO couldn't avoid or spin for them to finally fire him, but if you read what Lowry says, it's more because Derbyshire is identified as a National Review writer and is generating bad press for them than anything else.

Exactly the vibe I got from the very first paragraph, though Lowry did throw in a denunciation of sorts. Lowry may not have like what Derb wrote at TakiMag, but he's more pissed that Derb used NRO's name to give himself some bonafides for this "article".

75 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:09:39pm

re: #61 Decatur Deb

It's too easy to ignore the amplification/replication effect of the new media. I was raised in the urban North in the 40s-50s and live in the deep South now. We're not in Beulah-land, but we really have come a long way. When you watch the kids, you know we're not going back.

Yet the belief humans are contributing to AGW that not too long ago was held by the majority of North Americans is now held by fewer than 50%.

76 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:11:18pm

re: #75 No Monkey Man (Born With a Banana in my Hand)

I may be deluding myself, but I think there was a recent poll that showed the situation was not that bad.

77 Lidane  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:11:50pm

Someone over at Balloon Juice noticed that while they might have turned comments off at National Review about Lowry's statements on Derbyshire, readers there are using other stories to comment instead:

This comment is actually about "Derb's Screed" by Rich Lowry. External Link All I'll say is that yes, in 1968 or 1992 we had the demographic and economic cushion to indulge in some idealistic sanctimony about this issue. That time has passed.
More and more middle- and working-class Americans will come in contact with Derb's truths on a daily basis, and they are going to speak out about it and not feel guilty or morally inferior for doing so...as the years pass it's going to be pretty futile to shame them into shooshing up.
---

Derb's Screed/Lowry's Insult (to the readers) - I've never been much of a fan of Derbyshire and wondered why NRO retains him. Now I've become one. Lowry's link meant I read the Screed at takimag.com that I otherwise would not have. Brilliant Mr Lowry. Offensive yes - but also a long overdue over-the-top rejoinder to the poisonous racial politics that Barack Obama has INFLAMED.
You Lowry have now associated the Derbyshire Screed with NRO by vociferously disassociating late on a Fri evening in the finest Watergate - strike that - Obamagate style. Not the other way around as far as I can tell. Can't walk away from it now. I suppose you'll fire him. Will the NYT, NYPost, & Orlando Sentinel ever disavow their recent articles? Right.
You turned off comments to your imprudent post disclaiming any linkage between the Screed and NRO. What were you thinking?!? That you were gonna keep the readers from embarassing NRO further? The readers will comment on this now on every post about Romney, the Middle East etc for the next week - or longer - because of your silly attempt to dis-establish the linkage you've rushed to confirm.

[snip]
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Derb could be 100% wrong about his talk with his kids and the necessity of giving it to them, but you'd still be wrong to disavow him on the grounds of cowardly political correctness. People used to be allowed to be wrong, and opposing opinions, even ones we disagreed with, used to be tolerated, even protected. What happened?
Of course after the way you treated Ann Coulter, and the eagerness you and your ilk have shown for disassociating yourselves from Pat Buchanan, this comes as no surprise. But it's no less cowardly, and depressing, for all its predictability.
And before you judge Derb too sanctimoniously, maybe you should wait till you're the parent of two mixed race Eurasian teens who may well face challenges that you can't even imagine. Derb's responsibilities are to his family, not to catering to your maidenly sensibilities.
If your goal is to protect yourself from liberal opprobrium, mission failed. They like to pretend all conservatives are all racists all the time, though when you look at their actual record vs ours... Anyway, this doesn't disarm that attack, it simply presents them with ammo you have acknowledged to be live, just as when you falsely smear people like Buchanan and Ron Paul with tags they don't deserve, you don't make yourself look enlightened, you just make all conservatives look bad, and yourselves craven to boot.
This is thousand points of light, compassionate weenie Bush-Romney neoconservatism to a T. This is why you people are a laughingstock to real conservatives, and for that matter, to real classical liberals with a respect for free speech as famously described by Voltaire.

78 jaunte  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:13:34pm

re: #77 Lidane

If your goal is to protect yourself from liberal opprobrium, mission failed. They like to pretend all conservatives are all racists all the time, though when you look at their actual record vs ours...

I guess they couldn't think of any examples.

79 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:15:10pm

So, was the video pulled in the last 10 minutes, after being on YouTube since 2009????

80 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:15:59pm

re: #78 jaunte

He/she also suffers from a severe irony deficiency...

They like to pretend all conservatives are all racists all the time

81 makeitstop  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:16:28pm
People used to be allowed to be wrong, and opposing opinions, even ones we disagreed with, used to be tolerated, even protected. What happened?

Oh, that's rich. Since when have modern conservatives ever protected or tolerated opinions they disagreed with? Ever?

82 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:16:41pm

re: #79 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

Yup.

83 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:16:48pm

re: #76 Johnny Derp

I may be deluding myself, but I think there was a recent poll that showed the situation was not that bad.

It's higher than 50% on the left but much lower on the right. I should be able to find the poll I saw that on.
[Link: www.harrisinteractive.com...]

84 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:17:09pm

It's been a good while but I have had a brief exchange with this Rodan in the past. He seemed like a smug little asshole in text too.

85 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:17:55pm

re: #60 ProGunLiberal

Again, Reagan helped to unleash so much of this. Don't forget his speech in Philadelphia, MS.

Beneath the grandfatherly image was a vicious person and flamboyant racist.

I disagree with your assessment of Reagan; I truly believe he was much more tolerant in practice than you give him credit for, but he also knew who was buttering his political bread (the RR and RWNJs).

It doesn't make that sort of pandering and cold political calculus right by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't think Reagan was the Anti-Christ either.

86 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:18:20pm

re: #79 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

So, was the video pulled in the last 10 minutes, after being on YouTube since 2009???

Yup.

87 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:19:02pm

re: #82 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Yup.

I can just imagine it was the Rodan who complained to YouTube about obscenity after seeing this on LGF.

So, when does Charles post his copy?

88 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:19:04pm

re: #83 No Monkey Man (Born With a Banana in my Hand)

Ah, I remembered this, but it pertains to GW.

[Link: articles.latimes.com...]

3/4 of that for AGW is less than 50%, so you're right. Still, 62% for GW is at least something.

89 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:19:07pm

re: #82 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Yup.

re: #86 talon_262

Yup.

Stay outta my gawt-damned head you fucking Scanner!
/

90 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:20:13pm

re: #88 Johnny Derp

Ah, I remembered this, but it pertains to GW.

[Link: articles.latimes.com...]

3/4 of that for AGW is less than 50%, so you're right. Still, 62% for GW is at least something.

What bothers me is the numbers are going down because of the concerted effort to vilify climate scientists.

91 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:22:12pm

re: #87 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

I think Gus made a back up. He's out at the moment.

92 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:22:14pm

re: #89 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

re: #86 talon_262

Stay outta my gawt-damned head you fucking Scanner!
/

LMAO!

93 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:22:40pm

re: #91 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

I think Gus made a back up. He's out at the moment.

I pulled a copy too.

94 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:23:49pm

re: #30 Johnny Derp

The lice are of course all pooh-poohing the vid and defending their racist psycho blogmaster.

Good. I think that sheds a lot of light behind the reasoning many of them were banned from LGF.

95 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:23:57pm

re: #93 talon_262

The Memory Hole is quickly becoming a thing of the past in this digital age. That's a good thing.

96 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:24:39pm

re: #94 Gus

YouTube pulled the vid, Gus.

97 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:24:57pm

re: #83 No Monkey Man (Born With a Banana in my Hand)

It's higher than 50% on the left but much lower on the right. I should be able to find the poll I saw that on.
[Link: www.harrisinteractive.com...]

Wrong poll.
Shit.

98 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:25:31pm

re: #90 No Monkey Man (Born With a Banana in my Hand)

What bothers me is the numbers are going down because of the concerted effort to vilify climate scientists.

The point of the poll is that they're going up again.

99 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:25:37pm

re: #92 talon_262

Heh. Wasn't sure anyone would get that ancient reference.

100 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:28:05pm

re: #29 Johnny Derp

No, turns out he posted the vid yesterday and admitted it's him. He says he's been drunk and is only embarrassed a bit about the use of the n-word, which was due to him using the NY language.

The Mel Gibson defense. Right. He's boasted many times before about what he reveals in the audio. Has nothing to do with being drunk. This is the real him.

101 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:28:13pm

re: #88 Johnny Derp

Ah, I remembered this, but it pertains to GW.

[Link: articles.latimes.com...]

3/4 of that for AGW is less than 50%, so you're right. Still, 62% for GW is at least something.

Thanks for the link Derpy. I hadn't seen the upswing since 2010.

102 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:28:24pm

Digby said it right. They fired Derb but never mentioned the r-word.

103 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:28:53pm

re: #99 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Heh. Wasn't sure anyone would get that ancient reference.

104 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:29:56pm

re: #100 Gus

The Mel Gibson defense. Right. He's boasted many times before about what he reveals in the audio. Has nothing to do with being drunk. This is the real him.

Eh, the deed is done. Who will believe him but a bunch of psychophants?

105 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:31:25pm

re: #77 Lidane

Someone over at Balloon Juice noticed that while they might have turned comments off at National Review about Lowry's statements on Derbyshire, readers there are using other stories to comment instead:

And before you judge Derb too sanctimoniously, maybe you should wait till you're the parent of two mixed race Eurasian teens who may well face challenges that you can't even imagine.

Hold the fuck UP. I'm now supposed to be gracious about Derbyshire's racism because his mixed-race kids have special challenges that I can't even imagine?

Lemme 'splain this to you, MORON. Derbyshire's crap article was a mockery of a talk that black parents have with their kids because black kids in this society really DO have special challenges you REFUSE to imagine or take seriously.

Do tell. What are the special challenges that black people pose to Eurasian teenagers whose daddies are affluent racist assholes?

106 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:31:28pm

They pulled the video? OK. Time to upload it to Liveleak.

107 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:32:17pm

re: #102 Johnny Derp

Digby said it right. They fired Derb but never mentioned the r-word.

It's weak, quibbling dimissal that all but says, "his basic ideas aren't what we have issues with, it's that he breached social norms and damaged our public image."

And Derbyshire will go post his screeds elsewhere and NRO won't feel any ethical obligation to disagree or argue back.

108 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:32:28pm

re: #75 No Monkey Man (Born With a Banana in my Hand)

Yet the belief humans are contributing to AGW that not too long ago was held by the majority of North Americans is now held by fewer than 50%.

It's not going to be a triumphal march on all fronts, but humans are sort of smart and eventually know the right path when they blunder on to it. (Though with AGW it might be too late to avoid the penalty for 'smart-too-late'.)

109 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:33:42pm

re: #108 Decatur Deb

I think we're fucked. Pretty nihilist about it.

110 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:34:15pm

re: #93 talon_262

I pulled a copy too.

Can you upload that to Liveleak?

111 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:35:03pm

re: #110 Gus

You won't be able to insert it without Charles. And Charles has a copy. He will probably just put it on his server.

112 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:35:07pm

re: #106 Gus

Yep. I just tried to watch, and it was pulled via YouTube's policy against hate speech. Wait, this had been there since 2009? Good grief, that's 2 1/2 years. How did they never know it was there?

113 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:35:09pm

re: #79 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

So, was the video pulled in the last 10 minutes, after being on YouTube since 2009???

Spring cleaning.

114 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:35:44pm

re: #112 Lord of Republicandoucheistan

They wouldn't know, it was a popular vid.

115 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:35:50pm
116 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:36:35pm

re: #113 Decatur Deb

Spring cleaning.

Yeah. Which means one of those weasels complained. Here I thought they were proud of that rhetoric.

117 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:36:43pm

re: #115 Killgore Trout

I'm glad some conservatives are condemning it.

118 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:37:05pm

re: #116 Gus

Yeah. Which means one of those weasels complained. Here I thought they were proud of that rhetoric.

Not when it hits LGF.

119 kirkspencer  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:37:11pm

re: #85 talon_262

I disagree with your assessment of Reagan; I truly believe he was much more tolerant in practice than you give him credit for, but he also knew who was buttering his political bread (the RR and RWNJs).

It doesn't make that sort of pandering and cold political calculus right by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't think Reagan was the Anti-Christ either.

I truly believe he was much more tolerant as well. Which makes his demonization even more deserved.

Think of it. He was willing to sacrifice his integrity, his historical tolerance of other races, of unions, of everything on which he'd previously stood for his personal gain.

Yes, the true racists are scum. But those who know better and are willing, nay, encourage them? That's not doing nothing that evil may flourish, that's being evil in the purest sense.

120 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:37:16pm

But condemnation of such an obvious racist piece is a very, very low bar by which to judge worthiness.

121 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:37:53pm

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

And before you judge Derb too sanctimoniously, maybe you should wait till you're the parent of two mixed race Eurasian teens who may well face challenges that you can't even imagine.

Hold the fuck UP. I'm now supposed to be gracious about Derbyshire's racism because his mixed-race kids have special challenges that I can't even imagine?

Lemme 'splain this to you, MORON. Derbyshire's crap article was a mockery of a talk that black parents have with their kids because black kids in this society really DO have special challenges you REFUSE to imagine or take seriously.

Do tell. What are the special challenges that black people pose to Eurasian teenagers whose daddies are affluent racist assholes?

My two mixed race kids did have problems growing up, all from the non-aboriginal kids.

My son came home from grade 4 one day crying to us to dye his hair blonde and change his eye colour to blue.

122 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:38:36pm

re: #112 Lord of Republicandoucheistan

Yep. I just tried to watch, and it was pulled via YouTube's policy against hate speech. Wait, this had been there since 2009? Good grief, that's 2 1/2 years. How did they never know it was there?

I'm guessing Rodan and the rest of the DoD crew but a bug in YouTube's ear, using their system against those who are exposing them for what they really are in an attempt to flush that unpleasantness down the memory hole.

Sorry, Rodan, you still lose...

123 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:38:56pm

re: #117 Johnny Derp

I'm glad some conservatives are condemning it.

Most of the NRO crew seemed pretty put off by Derb's article. They did the right thing and didn't drag this out too much. He probably should have been fired long ago but it was the right decision.

124 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:40:25pm

One of the dead lice racists:

Can we get liveleak to pull it too? The chess game continues:

So instead of condemning a racist criminal they try to destroy evidence.

125 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:40:35pm

re: #109 Johnny Derp

I think we're fucked. Pretty nihilist about it.

We'll go through a slow-motion apocalypse, but what we've learned won't be unlearned. A gigabyte of memory could grow to the size of a football stadium and use a few percent of the nation's energy, though.

126 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:42:08pm

re: #123 Killgore Trout

Most of the NRO crew seemed pretty put off by Derb's article. They did the right thing and didn't drag this out too much. He probably should have been fired long ago but it was the right decision.

I have no doubt some of them were sincerely shocked (Ponnuru). But basically, they have a business to run, so that would have been the decision in any case.

127 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:42:18pm

re: #123 Killgore Trout

Most of the NRO crew seemed pretty put off by Derb's article. They did the right thing and didn't drag this out too much. He probably should have been fired long ago but it was the right decision.

Does it matter really? National Review still has a legacy of racism from 1957 by way of William F. Buckley in his editorial "Why the South Must Prevail":

...“The central question that emerges ... is whether the White community in the South is entitled to take such measures as are necessary to prevail, politically and culturally, in areas in which it does not prevail numerically? The sobering answer is Yes — the White community is so entitled because, for the time being, it is the advanced race. It is not easy, and it is unpleasant, to adduce statistics evidencing the cultural superiority of White over Negro: but it is a fact that obtrudes, one that cannot be hidden by ever-so-busy egalitarians and anthropologists.”

“National Review believes that the South’s premises are correct... It is more important for the community, anywhere in the world, to affirm and live by civilized standards, than to bow to the demands of the numerical majority.”

“The South confronts one grave moral challenge. It must not exploit the fact of Negro backwardness to preserve the Negro as a servile class... Let the South never permit itself to do this. So long as it is merely asserting the right to impose superior mores for whatever period it takes to effect a genuine cultural equality between the races, and so long as it does so by humane and charitable means, the South is in step with civilization, as is the Congress that permits it to function.”...

128 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:42:39pm

re: #120 Johnny Derp

But condemnation of such an obvious racist piece is a very, very low bar by which to judge worthiness.

True but with today's wingnuts it's a nice surprise. I wouldn't have been surprised to see them go either way on this one. Fox kept Glenn Beck on the air for years spewing his insane conspiracy theories and saying that Obama hates white culture. I don't remember a whole lot of conservatives complaining him.

129 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:43:43pm

re: #124 Johnny Derp

One of the dead lice racists:

So instead of condemning a racist criminal they try to destroy evidence.

Short of Charles putting the clip directly on the LGF servers, Rodan and his derpy goons are going to keep gaming the system to get that clip pulled from any service we put it on.

130 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:44:13pm

re: #120 Johnny Derp

But condemnation of such an obvious racist piece is a very, very low bar by which to judge worthiness.

Particularly when the cited objection was that it was obvious rather than because it was racist. Up until now they loved his "political incorrectness" and "irreverance."

This is making an indiscretion go away, not confronting the larger problem.

131 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:44:28pm

re: #127 Gus

Does it matter really? National Review still has a legacy of racism from 1957 by way of William F. Buckley in his editorial "Why the South Must Prevail":

That was mighty white of Buckley Jr.

132 Lidane  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:44:43pm

re: #127 Gus

Does it matter really? National Review still has a legacy of racism from 1957 by way of William F. Buckley in his editorial "Why the South Must Prevail":

Let's not forget National Review's support of apartheid in South Africa, or their condemnation of violence during the civil rights era, not because it was wrong, but because it made blacks sympathetic and advanced the cause of civil rights.

133 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:45:15pm

re: #127 Gus

They could claim that it's ancient past, etc.
However, in order for such excuses to work they would have to reverse themselves 180 and publish an article after an article after an article condemning different facets of racism, prove their change by actions. To my knowledge that never happened. They stopped publishing the more inflammatory stuff, but they never really apologized or tried to mend the old faults.

134 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:45:58pm

re: #129 talon_262

Short of Charles putting the clip directly on the LGF servers, Rodan and his derpy goons are going to keep gaming the system to get that clip pulled from any service we put it on.

Is there a pitfall I don't see to putting it on LGF server? Copyright?

135 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:46:43pm

re: #121 No Monkey Man (Born With a Banana in my Hand)

My two mixed race kids did have problems growing up, all from the non-aboriginal kids.

My son came home from grade 4 one day crying to us to dye his hair blonde and change his eye colour to blue.

Crap. I'm so sorry.

Mind you, I'm not saying that being biracial isn't necessarily going to be a challenge for these kids. But as in the case of your kids, any shit they're going to get is going to come from the white kids they go to school with, not imaginary black hordes that their father will work overtime to keep them from going anywhere near.

136 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:46:56pm

re: #134 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

Is there a pitfall I don't see to putting it on LGF server?

That's on Charles...and he may be AFK for a bit.

137 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:49:09pm

re: #127 Gus

You should prolly tweet Charles.

138 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:49:35pm

re: #137 Johnny Derp

You should prolly tweet Charles.

I did. No big rush. :)

139 jaunte  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:51:17pm

Derp.

140 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:51:21pm

re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist

Crap. I'm so sorry.

Mind you, I'm not saying that being biracial isn't necessarily going to be a challenge for these kids. But as in the case of your kids, any shit they're going to get is going to come from the white kids they go to school with, not imaginary black hordes that their father will work overtime to keep them from going anywhere near.

The reason they went through crap was because too many white kids had parents who thought like Derbyshire. Get rid of the racism, (get rid of the Derbyshires) and they go through regular kid crap like how many playing cards to put in their bike spokes to sound like a motorcycle.

141 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:51:42pm

re: #127 Gus

Does it matter really? National Review still has a legacy of racism from 1957 by way of William F. Buckley in his editorial "Why the South Must Prevail":

Maybe it's because I never carried any kind of a torch for Buckley, but if they acted decent now, I would not hold 1957 against them. After a certain point, it starts to sound like people blathering about the Democrats voting against the Civil Rights Acts.

What's going on now needs to be seen in context, but it also needs to be taken on its own terms to some extent.

142 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:53:27pm

re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist

Maybe it's because I never carried any kind of a torch for Buckley, but if they acted decent now, I would not hold 1957 against them. After a certain point, it starts to sound like people blathering about the Democrats voting against the Civil Rights Acts.

What's going on now needs to be seen in context, but it also needs to be taken on its own terms to some extent.

That would be a better argument if Derbyshire hadn't been on the payroll yesterday.

143 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:53:36pm

re: #130 The Ghost of a Flea

Particularly when the cited objection was that it was obvious rather than because it was racist. Up until now they loved his "political incorrectness" and "irreverance."

This is making an indiscretion go away, not confronting the larger problem.

True. But at least the bar is still there.

The wingnuts may be hurling themselves against it, hoping it will break, but it's still better that there be some sort of social propriety, at least.

144 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:53:43pm

It's now on Liveleak. If Liveleak pulls it, I'll put it on my server.

145 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:54:07pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

It's now on Liveleak. If Liveleak pulls it, I'll put it on my server.

Excellent. Thanks.

146 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:54:43pm

re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist

Maybe it's because I never carried any kind of a torch for Buckley, but if they acted decent now, I would not hold 1957 against them. After a certain point, it starts to sound like people blathering about the Democrats voting against the Civil Rights Acts.

What's going on now needs to be seen in context, but it also needs to be taken on its own terms to some extent.

My favourite calling cards, context and nuance.

Ignore those two and you miss the point.

147 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:55:14pm

re: #142 Decatur Deb

That would be a better argument if Derbyshire hadn't been on the payroll yesterday.

Hence 'if they acted decent now'. They're not. I just hold that against them a hell of a lot more than what they did when my parents were in grade school.

148 recusancy  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:56:02pm

re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist

Maybe it's because I never carried any kind of a torch for Buckley, but if they acted decent now, I would not hold 1957 against them. After a certain point, it starts to sound like people blathering about the Democrats voting against the Civil Rights Acts.

What's going on now needs to be seen in context, but it also needs to be taken on its own terms to some extent.

I see your point but Democrats don't lionize the Dems who voted against the CRA. Buckley, and those like him are lionized.

149 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:56:07pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

It's now on Liveleak. If Liveleak pulls it, I'll put it on my server.

It's only showing 1:45 for time. I think it didn't fully load or something?

150 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:56:31pm

re: #148 recusancy

I see your point but Democrats don't lionize the Dems who voted against the CRA. Buckley, and those like him are lionized.

Well, since you brought that up, Byrd was pretty respected.

151 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:57:37pm

re: #149 Gus

It's an excerpt.

152 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:58:31pm

re: #149 Gus

It's only showing 1:45 for time. I think it didn't fully load or something?

Yeah, some of the more offensive shit towards the end is cut off. Wha hoppen?

153 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:58:52pm

But yeah, it's missing most of the good material.

154 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:58:55pm

re: #147 SanFranciscoZionist

Hence 'if they acted decent now'. They're not. I just hold that against them a hell of a lot more than what they did when my parents were in grade school.

Ah, kids. That's the difference between what you learned and I experienced.

155 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 4:58:59pm

re: #152 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Yeah, some of the more offensive shit towards the end is cut off. Wha hoppen?

Exactly.

156 recusancy  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:00:07pm

re: #150 Johnny Derp

Well, since you brought that up, Byrd was pretty respected.

Respected for changing his tune, but not lionized.

157 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:00:23pm

re: #148 recusancy

I see your point but Democrats don't lionize the Dems who voted against the CRA. Buckley, and those like him are lionized.

Sure, and not by particularly nice people. (Also, by people who are not as smart or sophisticated as Buckley.)

158 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:02:14pm

re: #143 SanFranciscoZionist

True. But at least the bar is still there.

The wingnuts may be hurling themselves against it, hoping it will break, but it's still better that there be some sort of social propriety, at least.

Mmm...

[indecisive wave]

It seems more strategic the proprietous. If you go full racist you can't you the established panoply of defenses of dog-whistling. NRO likes dog-whistling a lot.

159 abolitionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:02:45pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

It's now on Liveleak. If Liveleak pulls it, I'll put it on my server.

FYI, it had 317 views on Youtube according to a channel page I'd opened.

160 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:03:20pm

re: #156 recusancy

Respected for changing his tune, but not lionized.

I think he was lionized, as the oldest something or other, and a very knowledgeable something or other, etc. Look at his obits. Look at Obama's speech at his funeral.

161 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:03:31pm

re: #150 Johnny Derp

Well, since you brought that up, Byrd was pretty respected.

Also true, but Byrd had a second act. No one liked him for his Klan background or his filibuster of the CRA, they liked him for expressing his regret and sorrow over those things, and putting in hard work for decades helping one of the poorest states in the Union get a fair break. He apologized for mistakes he made, and when he made new mistakes he apologized some more.

He was far from a saint. There were saints and giants in his generation, and he was not one of them. But what he's actually respected for in Democratic circles is decent.

162 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:04:51pm

re: #161 SanFranciscoZionist

Do you think Buckley was respected for his old racist act? Maybe some people respected him for what they thought as his clean-up of the conservative movement while being true to its principles.

163 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:05:27pm

re: #158 The Ghost of a Flea

Mmm...

[indecisive wave]

It seems more strategic the proprietous. If you go full racist you can't you the established panoply of defenses of dog-whistling. NRO likes dog-whistling a lot.

Yeah, and we've discussed this. Is it better if they openly go full racist? Better for what, or whom? I tend to be of the side that argues that the more open they can be, the more easily they mainstream their views. A taboo isn't morality, but it's better than nothing.

But a strong argument for the other side always sways me a bit.

164 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:06:04pm

re: #149 Gus

It's only showing 1:45 for time. I think it didn't fully load or something?

Checking ... yeah, it looks like Liveleak cut it off. I think I'll just upload it to the LGF server and stop screwing around with Liveleak.

165 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:06:20pm

Yo, why doesn't anybody believe me dog? I'm a scary gang member who likes to cut Arabs and muslims in the face and stab them. I'm a DJ rapper who digs Pinochet, ch ch ch check it! Stop laughing!!

166 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:06:49pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

Checking ... yeah, it looks like Liveleak cut it off. I think I'll just upload it to the LGF server and stop screwing around with Liveleak.

Cool beans. Yeah. That will then prevent anyone from pulling it again. Thanks.

167 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:06:54pm

re: #165 goddamnedfrank

His proof he's not racist? He "used to DJ rap".

168 recusancy  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:07:35pm

re: #160 Johnny Derp

I think he was lionized, as the oldest something or other, and a very knowledgeable something or other, etc. Look at his obits. Look at Obama's speech at his funeral.

Possibly, I guess I just thought most people saw him as just another senate democrat. I think Obama was genuinely touched by Byrd coming up to him when he was a new senator and basically telling him he was embarrassed and ashamed of his past.

169 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:07:54pm

re: #162 Johnny Derp

Do you think Buckley was respected for his old racist act? Maybe some people respected him for what they though as his clean-up of the conservative movement while being true to its principles.

I honestly don't know. I think it depends a lot on who you are.

Derbyshire, doubtless, envies Buckley for having lived in a time when you could be a bissel respectable racist and be considered a respectable intellectual. (Derbyshire, BTW, is nowhere near as smart as Buckley.)

I think for others it's closer to what you describe.

170 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:08:06pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

Good decision. The dead lice racists wouldn't leave it alone anyway:

It’s on Liveleak now, lets see if we can pull it.

171 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:08:43pm

re: #170 Johnny Derp

Good decision. The dead lice racists wouldn't leave it alone anyway:

Splodey heads! Bet they start talking about lawyers now. lol

172 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:09:50pm

re: #168 recusancy

He used to be thought of as a walking encyclopedia of the Senate rules, as well as a Congress historian.

Some progressive obits can be read at [Link: www.dailykos.com...]

173 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:13:24pm

There we go. Now playing from our server. I added a note about what happened to the YouTube version.

174 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:13:50pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

There we go. Now playing from our server. I added a note about what happened to the YouTube version.

Thanks again.

175 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:13:56pm
176 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:14:15pm

This post by Gus should get their attention on a Saturday night.

Happy Weekend, lizards!
I just handed my small business expenses to my husband and am ready to read something more interesting.

177 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:14:45pm
178 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:15:10pm

re: #175 Johnny Derp

What on Earth is conservative about writing about how you teach your kids to stay out of black neighborhoods?

179 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:15:27pm

re: #167 Johnny Derp

His proof he's not racist? He "used to DJ rap".

???

Did he shoot video films and drive around in a car truck?

180 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:15:31pm
181 Randall Gross  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:16:16pm

One heads up to everyone: Derbyshire and all he wrote was evil, but let's not be like him. He's purportedly on chemo right now, so I recommend not being overly celebratory over the firing, even as overdue as it is.

182 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:16:19pm

re: #167 Johnny Derp

His proof he's not racist? He "used to DJ rap".

Say what?

183 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:17:18pm

re: #181 Randall Gross

You have a point.

184 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:17:25pm

re: #177 Johnny Derp

Wow. That's pretty offensive to Jews.

185 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:18:30pm

re: #181 Randall Gross

One heads up to everyone: Derbyshire and all he wrote was evil, but let's not be like him. He's purportedly on chemo right now, so I recommend not being overly celebratory over the firing, even as overdue as it is.

He should live forever, quietly, someplace.

186 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:18:37pm

re: #184 Gus

Wow. That's pretty offensive to Jews.

Pretty classic too.

187 Randall Gross  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:18:52pm

Hey Gus: good work and good find on this.

188 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:19:29pm

re: #175 Johnny Derp

Joshua Trevino is a first-class creep himself, by the way. He and Brooks Bayne deserve each other.

189 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:19:39pm

re: #185 Decatur Deb

He should live forever, quietly, someplace.

I hope Derb lives a long life, so that he may stew in his own rancid thoughts by himself.

190 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:20:03pm

re: #178 SanFranciscoZionist

What on Earth is conservative about writing about how you teach your kids to stay out of black neighborhoods?

It's supposedly anti-PC which has been presented as pro-conservative by quite a few talking heads.

191 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:20:52pm

re: #181 Randall Gross

One heads up to everyone: Derbyshire and all he wrote was evil, but let's not be like him. He's purportedly on chemo right now, so I recommend not being overly celebratory over the firing, even as overdue as it is.

My sympathies that he is sick.

I somehow suspect that he will not end up in the gutter, or on Medicaid, as a result of the firing, however.

If I am wrong, I suppose I will have to contribute a chai to his hospital bills fund.

192 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:21:39pm

re: #189 talon_262

I hope Derb lives a long life, so that he may stew in his own rancid thoughts by himself.

If he stops doing harm, and cannot be induced to do good, he is just 'human interest'.

193 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:21:45pm

re: #190 No Monkey Man (Born With a Banana in my Hand)

It's supposedly anti-PC which has been presented as pro-conservative by quite a few talking heads.

Oh, I get what the wingnuts think is conservative about it...I just think it's idiotic that they think so.

194 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:21:57pm

re: #190 No Monkey Man (Born With a Banana in my Hand)

It's supposedly anti-PC which has been presented as pro-conservative by quite a few talking heads.

anyone still waving around the term "politically incorrect" in any seriousness smacks to me of someone stuck 15-20 years ago, who still uses Windows 3.1 and makes "Bill Clinton Inhaled" jokes

195 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:22:50pm

re: #181 Randall Gross

One heads up to everyone: Derbyshire and all he wrote was evil, but let's not be like him. He's purportedly on chemo right now, so I recommend not being overly celebratory over the firing, even as overdue as it is.

I'm sorry, but unless that chemo is demonstrably affecting his mind it's not a valid reason to except or accept his words.

196 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:23:09pm

re: #165 goddamnedfrank

You know, the more I think about it, the more I think that ol' Rodan is nothing more than a moronic chickenshit poser; that goes for most of his crew too.

197 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:24:29pm

re: #194 windupbird is in the gravity well

anyone still waving around the term "politically incorrect" in any seriousness smacks to me of someone stuck 15-20 years ago, who still uses Windows 3.1 and makes "Bill Clinton Inhaled" jokes

Still have DOS 3.3 loaded on a Compaq Aero. Gotta learn to sell on eBay.

198 Patricia Kayden  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:24:33pm

Racists being revealed is always a good thing. Although I don't have the stomach to listen to Rodan Exposed. Would be nice if Maddow or another host on MSNBC picked up this story.

199 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:25:12pm

re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, I get what the wingnuts think is conservative about it...I just think it's idiotic that they think so.

As usual your words are wise beyond your years, oh teacher of little ones.

200 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:25:40pm

re: #166 Gus

Great catch, Gus. Kudos on the front page promotion. ;)

201 allegro  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:25:51pm

re: #181 Randall Gross

One heads up to everyone: Derbyshire and all he wrote was evil, but let's not be like him. He's purportedly on chemo right now, so I recommend not being overly celebratory over the firing, even as overdue as it is.

If he is ill, that is unfortunate. It is also entirely irrelevant. It is just as irrelevant that as much of a bummer for the Brietbart family that the man dropped dead, the facts of his unconscionably bad acts stand regardless. I don't celebrate but neither can I claim grief.

202 jaunte  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:26:40pm

re: #180 Johnny Derp

Whoever Todd Kincannon is, he should understand that National Review made a business decision, Derbyshire isn't actually in exile.

203 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:27:28pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

Joshua Trevino is a first-class creep himself, by the way. He and Brooks Bayne deserve each other.

I only know he's some sort of a wingnut. The name didn't ring a bell before the BB affair.

204 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:28:31pm

re: #163 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, and we've discussed this. Is it better if they openly go full racist? Better for what, or whom? I tend to be of the side that argues that the more open they can be, the more easily they mainstream their views. A taboo isn't morality, but it's better than nothing.

But a strong argument for the other side always sways me a bit.

Before living in Kentucky for a decade, I would have agreed with you. My position now is that racism is just as virulent regardless of the language in which it is encoded. I've learned over the years how the people around here--the great and the good of KY conservatism--have created their own little intellectual bubble that is just as wingnutty as blogs posters, but is camoflauged with civility and coded language.

A person that uses subtle insinuation is actively trying to make their racism palatable for an audience that might disagree by removing taboo components such as epithets and expletives. It's a rhetorical attempt to play upon weakness of certainty by evoking anecdotal evidence and "common knowledge"--making racism seem "reasonable" by the performance of being reasonable...polite, socially adjusted, knowledgeable of etiquette and poise. Indeed, the entire pitch of genteel racism is the social proposition that:

I'm clearly a reasonable, polite person who doesn't match existing tropes about white racists, and I'm not N-bombing or swearing: clearly this means that my opinions about "the blacks" are rooted in some nuanced understanding and personal knowledge, not just racism and/or racist assumptions.

And it's a cowardly rhetoric that hides from confrontation and facts. Talk back to a genteel racist and they eschew your opinion because you're impolite, impolitick, or "bringing up a subject polite people don't talk about." And if an anti-racist speaks in anger or issues an insult, then they discount the rhetoric of anti-racism as synonymous with aggression and antisocial conduct.

I half jokingly call the phenomenon the "No, You're the Asshole" Fallacy. You sometimes see it on LGF when a troll says a bunch of insulting stuff, then plays the victim--and declares themselves the winner of the argument--because someone uses the word fuck in a response post.

205 jaunte  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:29:39pm
206 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:30:25pm

Re Derbyshire, I'm always interested in the 'IQ tests prove something about race' argument, being as I am on both sides an interesting illustration of how this sort of nonsense changes over time.

On the Jewish side, for example, during the 1890s, over eighty percent of Jews trying to enter the United States were found by the best science of the day to be 'morons' or 'feebleminded'. Now, the more genteel kind of white supremacist tries to get us into the fold by praising how supersmart Jews are supposed to be--or rather, us Ashkenazim, who they always single out because they think we look more like them.

Bleah.

207 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:30:47pm

re: #204 The Ghost of a Flea

Before living in Kentucky for a decade, I would have agreed with you. My position now is that racism is just as virulent regardless of the language in which it is encoded. I've learned over the years how the people around here--the great and the good of KY conservatism--have created their own little intellectual bubble that is just as wingnutty as blogs posters, but is camoflauged with civility and coded language.

A person that uses subtle insinuation is actively trying to make their racism palatable for an audience that might disagree by removing taboo components such as epithets and expletives. It's a rhetorical attempt to play upon weakness of certainty by evoking anecdotal evidence and "common knowledge"--making racism seem "reasonable" by the performance of being reasonable...polite, socially adjusted, knowledgeable of etiquette and poise. Indeed, the entire pitch of genteel racism is the social proposition that:

I'm clearly a reasonable, polite person who doesn't match existing tropes about white racists, and I'm not N-bombing or swearing: clearly this means that my opinions about "the blacks" are rooted in some nuanced understanding and personal knowledge, not just racism and/or racist assumptions.

And it's a cowardly rhetoric that hides from confrontation and facts. Talk back to a genteel racist and they eschew your opinion because you're impolite, impolitick, or "bringing up a subject polite people don't talk about." And if an anti-racist speaks in anger or issues an insult, then they discount the rhetoric of anti-racism as synonymous with aggression and antisocial conduct.

I half jokingly call the phenomenon the "No, You're the Asshole" Fallacy. You sometimes see it on LGF when a troll says a bunch of insulting stuff, then plays the victim--and declares themselves the winner of the argument--because someone uses the word fuck in a response post.

So you've met my MIL in E'town.

208 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:32:38pm

re: #206 SanFranciscoZionist

Nisbett in Intelligence and how to get it touches on the Jewish IQ claims (along with the rest of the controversial topics, like the white/black av. IQ gap), but I haven't yet read till that part.

209 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:32:50pm

Here's my take on Derbyshire being fired:

210 Interesting Times  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:33:06pm

re: #205 jaunte

Oh, that Todd Kincannon:
GOPer Calls Pelosi C-Word On Twitter, Tells TPM It Was A Joke

This Todd Kincannon, also too:

211 jaunte  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:33:28pm

re: #210 Interesting Times

Satire!

212 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:34:08pm

By the way, old-time LGF users may recognize Michele from the blog "A Small Victory," once one of my favorite blog reads. I was pleasantly surprised to encounter her on Twitter a couple of days ago.

213 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:35:38pm

re: #206 SanFranciscoZionist

Seems like the whole chapter 9 is about that, it's called "People of the Book".

214 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:36:21pm

re: #208 Johnny Derp

Nisbett in Intelligence and how to get it touches on the Jewish IQ claims (along with the rest of the controversial topics, like the white/black av. IQ gap), but I haven't yet read till that part.

Some of it is quite interesting...the amazing leaps and gains in intelligence by various ethnic groups once their children were in school and getting enough to eat is always quite amazing.

But for me, the bottom line is always "This yiddene is smart enough not to fall for this sort of crap."

215 austin_blue  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:40:27pm

I visited the Diary site and found he posted the audio. Claims he's not like that anymore. Also did a search for my nic on his site and found I was only mentioned once.

Dammit.

216 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:42:45pm

re: #215 austin_blue

I visited the Diary site and found he posted the audio. Claims he's not like that anymore. Also did a search for my nic on his site and found I was only mentioned once.

Dammit.

Akshully you're mentioned there quite a bit ;) Google gives 30+ results, though there may be some noise.

217 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:44:33pm

re: #216 Johnny Derp

Akshully you're mentioned there quite a bit ;) Google gives 30+ results, though there may be some noise.

How many for me? Over 800?

218 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:45:43pm

re: #206 SanFranciscoZionist

also IQ tests are sort of ridiculous by their nature, there's so much about cognitive ability they don't measure at all

219 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:45:47pm

'Sup bitches? I gets street cred by saying nuke Mecca yo! I'm in the Latin Kings and gots to defend my turf from Yemenites 'n shit. I stab, slice and dice snitches in rumbles 'cuz I'm hardCORE. My DJ rapper wit is razor sharp and will cut a fool. I'm training to be a CAGE FIGHTER!

220 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:46:39pm

re: #219 goddamnedfrank

In junior high! Derp.

221 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:48:54pm

re: #217 Gus

How many for me? Over 800?

("gus"|"gus_802") gives around 1220 results.

Note that to get a "truer" no. of results you have to go to the last search page. The no. on the first page is often an "estimate", that can be quite off.

222 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:49:45pm

re: #218 windupbird is in the gravity well

also IQ tests are sort of ridiculous by their nature, there's so much about cognitive ability they don't measure at all

As long as people don't claim that these tests capture the whole spectrum of intelligence, they're OK.

223 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:51:28pm

re: #219 goddamnedfrank

Pft. Cages are generally pretty tranquil and rarely need to be fought.

224 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:52:11pm

re: #220 Gus

In junior high! Derp.

You want me to name NAMES huh, of all the people I've STABBED?!?!

Oh Marlin Marlin Marlin.

225 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:52:19pm

re: #221 Johnny Derp

("gus"|"gus_802") gives around 1220 results.

Note that to get a "truer" no. of results you have to go to the last search page. The no. on the first page is often an "estimate", that can be quite off.

That works! lol Yeah. They're not obsessed with me. Uh huh. This is my first ever Diary of Diarrhea post. You'll also notice that I barely said anything about him and kept rather straight and to the point without any lunacy. Which way more I could say for them.

226 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:53:34pm

re: #224 goddamnedfrank

You can hear him smacking his gums. Yeah, "I probably cuts up 15 faces in my life." Or something.

227 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:53:34pm

re: #217 Gus

How many for me? Over 800?

OVER 9000!!!

/Goku envies you...

228 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:54:02pm

re: #221 Johnny Derp

("gus"|"gus_802") gives around 1220 results.

Note that to get a "truer" no. of results you have to go to the last search page. The no. on the first page is often an "estimate", that can be quite off.

Yes, Google uses a 'lazy pagination' system that just approximates the number of matched items, because it's quite resource-intensive to do an exact count and base the pagination on that. I've been looking into this, because I may have to implement something like that for LGF comment searches; with 9.5 million comments, the 'exact count' method is beginning to be problematic.

229 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:54:40pm

re: #222 Johnny Derp

As long as people don't claim that these tests capture the whole spectrum of intelligence, they're OK.

they're useful for what they are, but it's always these GOP shitbags that pull them out when they get on their eugenics trip

It's like the fucking Prisoner, reducing men to numbers

230 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:55:29pm

re: #227 talon_262

OVER 9000!!!

/Goku envies you...

"When the journalists come, I'll just destroy them!"

-Vegeta

231 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:56:14pm

re: #224 goddamnedfrank

232 justaminute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:56:20pm

When I joined LGF every one always referred to the stalker blog but what everyone said was enough for me that I had no desire to look them up. I'm glad that Gus brought this video up. Some argue that when we discussed them it just gives them the attention they lust after. I thought that maybe that might be true. I've changed my mind. The fast removal of the video after being out their for years just proves that sunshine is a good disinfectant. They must have removed it themselves.

After the shooting of Trevon and in Tulsa on Friday and the Derbyshire trash removal we need to talk more and more about all of this. It needs to all come out and be judged and confronted in our society. More please.

233 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:57:04pm

re: #231 Johnny Derp

BTW, Charles, can you add that &start feature for clips to the Spy?

234 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:59:18pm

re: #217 Gus

Almost scared to ask about myself, considering how mood swing-y I am.

235 Randall Gross  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:59:18pm

re: #195 No Monkey Man (Born With a Banana in my Hand)

Chemo's no excuse, he was an admitted racist long before that started.

236 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:59:28pm

re: #233 Johnny Derp

BTW, Charles, can you add that &start feature for clips to the Spy?

On the to-do list.

237 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 5:59:32pm

re: #226 Gus

You can hear him smacking his gums. Yeah, "I probably cuts up 15 faces in my life." Or something.

If I can be serious for a moment:

Piquerism.

the act of achieving sexual pleasure from penetrating the body with sharp objects, such as pins, nails, stilletos,etc. The sharp object is symbolic of the penis.

Just sayin', it's an odd and highly troubling fixation he's displaying. I mean, he's not talking about fighting or administering beat downs, he's very specific about cutting and penetrating human flesh.

238 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:00:03pm

re: #223 The Ghost of a Flea

Pft. Cages are generally pretty tranquil and rarely need to be fought.

Cage should be fought to the death. Not too fond of Schoenberg, either.

239 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:00:13pm

re: #29 Johnny Derp

No, turns out he posted the vid yesterday and admitted it's him. He says he's been drunk and is only embarrassed a bit about the use of the n-word, which was due to him using the NY language.

His accent sounds very 'New York/New Jersey' to me, though he now lives in Florida. Interesting, given that the Latin Kings were founded in Chicago and you don't normally see Chicago gangs in New York (or vice/versa)

240 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:01:10pm

re: #219 goddamnedfrank

Well, he does belong in a cage.

[waves to the Stalkers]

241 jaunte  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:01:22pm

re: #239 Dark_Falcon

He must have joined the Latin Kings Foreign Legion.

242 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:01:30pm

re: #239 Dark_Falcon

His accent sounds very 'New York/New Jersey' to me, though he now lives in Florida. Interesting, given that the Latin Kings were founded in Chicago and you don't normally see Chicago gangs in New York (or vice/versa)

He may be full of shit for all we know, we can't check. He's a psycho in any case. One day we'll probably hear about him in the news.

243 jvic  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:01:58pm

re: #238 Decatur Deb

Cage should be fought to the death. Not too fond of Schoenberg, either.

Morton Feldman is the man.

244 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:02:04pm

re: #239 Dark_Falcon

His accent sounds very 'New York/New Jersey' to me, though he now lives in Florida. Interesting, given that the Latin Kings were founded in Chicago and you don't normally see Chicago gangs in New York (or vice/versa)

He talks about Astoria (Queens, NYC), must be from Long Island.

245 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:02:25pm

re: #237 goddamnedfrank

This is a very disturbed individual.

246 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:03:01pm

re: #237 goddamnedfrank

If I can be serious for a moment:

Piquerism.

Just sayin', it's an odd and highly troubling fixation he's displaying. I mean, he's not talking about fighting or administering beat downs, he's very specific about cutting and penetrating human flesh.

That can be the sign of a very dangerous person.

247 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:03:46pm

I think Muslims around the place Martinez lives should know more about him. I think he is dangerous to them.

248 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:04:25pm

re: #243 jvic

Morton Feldman is the man.

Moondog

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

249 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:05:39pm

re: #244 Decatur Deb

He talks about Astoria (Queens, NYC), must be from Long Island.

Thanks. Still not where you'd expect to find a gang from Chicago, but its certainly possible. Chicago has recently seen the arrival of a Cripps franchise, after all.

250 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:05:45pm

re: #246 Dark_Falcon

True, but then again everyone has there own kink. Usually, most people don't go around talking about them. I have heard of people getting turned on by slashing exercise balls. Again, from Radio Dead Air.

However, the fact he makes it public is worrying.

251 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:06:22pm

re: #249 Dark_Falcon

Thanks. Still not where you'd expect to find a gang from Chicago, but its certainly possible. Chicago has recently seen the arrival of a Cripps franchise, after all.

So has Anniston, Alabama.

252 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:07:03pm

re: #238 Decatur Deb

Cage should be fought to the death. Not too fond of Schoenberg, either.

Bah! His student Anton Webern is one of my favorites.

253 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:07:59pm

re: #252 Satanic Ritual Kazoo

Bah! His student Anton Webern is one of my favorites.

Nice to think about, horrible to listen to.

254 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:09:10pm

re: #251 Decatur Deb

So has Anniston Alabama.

The Crips and Bloods might be the "old guard" of street gangs, but MS13 and other gangs can make them look like pikers in some ways.

Very violent.

256 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:09:58pm

re: #242 Johnny Derp

He may be full of shit for all we know, we can't check. He's a psycho in any case. One day we'll probably hear about him in the news.

If the crimes happened in NYC there are people who will remember them. NYC is a big city, but in many ways it's also a small town. Word travels amazingly fast through interpersonal networks that reach everywhere, from the schoolyard to the prison yard. And people have long memories.

257 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:10:57pm

re: #256 CuriousLurker

Dunno, I think it won't budge on its own. Somebody should ask around.

258 abolitionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:11:30pm

re: #232 justaminute

[snip]
After the shooting of Trevon and in Tulsa on Friday and the Derbyshire trash removal we need to talk more and more about all of this. It needs to all come out and be judged and confronted in our society. More please.

It's a double-edged sword. I took an interest in several of the extremist individuals and groups, with respect to blacks, muslims, misogynists, and terrorists of various stripes, etc, over the years. Many of my posting/links have been expunged. And I'm quite ok with that.

Charles' house. His rules.

259 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:11:34pm

re: #214 SanFranciscoZionist

I think it has something to do with being the chosen people. The "meek shall inherit the earth." The tenacity of the Jewish human spirit despite having all taken from them for hundreds and hundreds of years. God bless, SFZ.

260 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:11:42pm

re: #247 Johnny Derp

I think Muslims around the place Martinez lives should know more about him. I think he is dangerous to them.

That can be arranged. Has anyone mentioned which city he is in?

261 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:11:48pm

Heh.

262 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:12:22pm

re: #238 Decatur Deb

Cage should be fought to the death. Not too fond of Schoenberg, either.

The theory of Cage's work is interesting...I really like the idea of the prepared piano. Listening to it? Not so much.

263 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:13:39pm

re: #257 Johnny Derp

Dunno, I think it won't budge on its own. Somebody should ask around.

Someone will if it can be verified that he was speaking of NYC.

264 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:14:37pm

But without the stalkers I'd have almost no returns from here at all on a Google search, I like them re-posting my shit and calling me an "anti-Christian lunatic" and "deranged" it gets me more views.

It is also funny as hell since I have to believe that maybe I have a little better grasp on this "Christianity thing" than they do, (as in actually following Christ and his teachings, not the hate propaganda spewed by most of the Right and currently called Christianity). I do hope that someday they get around to reading all of the bible instead of only the verses singled out by those that want to lead them astray.

265 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:14:40pm

Appetizer for tonight's dinner: a glass of Babble blended red wine, and a hunk of insanely sharp black wax Vermont cheddar. Nom.

266 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:15:12pm

re: #260 CuriousLurker

On google I see references to Tampa, but others will know more.

267 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:16:30pm

re: #250 ProGunLiberal

True, but then again everyone has there own kink. Usually, most people don't go around talking about them. I have heard of people getting turned on by slashing exercise balls. Again, from Radio Dead Air.

However, the fact he makes it public is worrying.

I took a class as the University of Washington called Sociology 275 - Murder. That's all it was about, studying the mentality, contributors and components of murder, along with law, investigative techniques, crime/control policies, victim and killer characteristics.

Piquerists often start out like the guy in your story, and the thing you need to always keep in mind is that the rubber ball is a surrogate.

268 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:17:35pm

re: #254 talon_262

The Crips and Bloods might be the "old guard" of street gangs, but MS13 and other gangs can make them look like pikers in some ways.

Very violent.

Yes. My daughter's jail is so paranoid about them that she has to destroy any textbook in which a student writes anything.

269 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:18:22pm

re: #267 goddamnedfrank

Huh, didn't know that.

Still stand by my assertion that most people have kinks that are mostly non-dangerous.

270 jvic  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:18:35pm

re: #248 Decatur Deb

I've heard the name. I'll check him out. Thanks for the recommendation.

Feldman was a rite of passage for me, though.

I was a philistine about post-WW2 "classical" music. At one point I found a Feldman CD at discount and bought it basically out of sarcasm. Here was Feldman on the cover, your basic NYC Jewish intellectual from Neptune, and he couldn't even get a job in the city (he taught at SUNY Buffalo iirc). Good for a yuk, said my peasant, Chicago-area blood.

It's obvious what happened, right? I was mesmerized at first hearing, and Feldman has served as a gateway to other contemporary repertoire.

He died too young.

271 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:18:48pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

Appetizer for tonight's dinner: a glass of Babble blended red wine, and a hunk of insanely sharp black wax Vermont cheddar. Nom.

Can't abide very sharp cheese, sorry. I'm more of a muenster type...
(or smoked cheeses, yummy)

272 sattv4u2  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:21:44pm

re: #271 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Can't abide very sharp cheese, sorry. I'm more of a muenster type...
(or smoked cheeses, yummy)

me too

but every time I put them in my pipe and light them it gets messy

273 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:23:12pm

re: #270 jvic

I've heard the name. I'll check him out. Thanks for the recommendation.

Feldman was a rite of passage for me, though.

I was a philistine about post-WW2 "classical" music. At one point I found a Feldman CD at discount and bought it basically out of sarcasm. Here was Feldman on the cover, your basic NYC Jewish intellectual from Neptune, and he couldn't even get a job in the city (he taught at SUNY Buffalo iirc). Good for a yuk, said my peasant, Chicago-area blood.

It's obvious what happened, right? I was mesmerized at first hearing, and Feldman has served as a gateway to other contemporary repertoire.

He died too young.

I don't know Feldman--old culture-bound ears. I can enjoy Glass and Moondog, but nothing less sensual. There's a good bit of Moondog on YT.

274 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:23:28pm

re: #271 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Smoked cheese is an abomination!/

275 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:23:28pm
276 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:24:01pm

re: #267 goddamnedfrank

I took a class as the University of Washington called Sociology 275 - Murder. That's all it was about, studying the mentality, contributors and components of murder, along with law, investigative techniques, crime/control policies, victim and killer characteristics.

Piquerists often start out like the guy in your story, and the thing you need to always keep in mind is that the rubber ball is a surrogate.

That class sounds fascinating. I'd love to sit in on that.

In my late teens, I had a girlfriend whose younger brother had been caught trapping, torturing, and killing squirrels on more than one occasion. Their parents knew about it, and didn't take it seriously at all. "They're just squirrels" and "boys are like that" was all they had to say about it. The kicker was that their father was an assistant state attorney general, and had worked on several high-profile murder cases during his career.

277 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:24:04pm

re: #274 prairiefire

Smoked cheese is an abomination!/

You don't know what's gouda for you

278 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:25:19pm

re: #277 Decatur Deb

You don't know what's gouda for you

This won't be long-lived, fersure./

279 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:25:46pm

So, this May I'm gonna re-visit Paris and Amsterdam. Yay.

280 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:25:49pm

re: #47 erik_t

I did not expect that.

I am poorer by one internet cookie, but I am richer in mind and spirit.

You can pay off with an upding, since I was right about Derbyshire.

281 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:26:18pm

re: #277 Decatur Deb

You don't know what's gouda for you

Decatur, I'm fontina you, but your argument is curdled.

282 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:28:29pm

If this is going to devolve into a pun-fest, then something something cheese reference.

283 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:28:31pm

re: #269 ProGunLiberal

Huh, didn't know that.

Still stand by my assertion that most people have kinks that are mostly non-dangerous.

All "kinks" aren't equivalent. Piquerists aren't furries, there's an inherent violence in the activity/fantasy that people should never let their guard down around. If there are inanimate objects as the target they are always a surrogate for the real thing, and it's the cutting, stabbing, penetrating that replaces the sex act.

284 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:30:51pm

re: #282 Satanic Ritual Kazoo

If this is going to devolve into a pun-fest, then something something cheese reference.

Something, something gorgonzola.

Over-reach. That's why I always lose at Scrabble.

285 jvic  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:31:47pm

re: #281 prairiefire

Decatur, I'm fontina you, but your argument is curdled..

A briesy retort.

286 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:32:09pm

re: #284 Decatur Deb

Something, something gorgonzola.

J'accuse!

287 Aye Pod  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:32:40pm

Great article, Gus.

Just how infantile is Rodan's attempt to explain away his use of the n-word? Could he really be so stupid as to think anyone will believe that a white person calling black people by that name in anger could conceivably be described as "NY street talk"? (answer=YES). What a joke.

He wouldn't last 5 seconds on the NY street pulling shit like that, not that he'd ever dare of course.

288 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:32:49pm

This pun thread is not in the mold of other pun threads.

289 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:32:59pm

re: #286 Johnny Derp

J'accuse!

Scusi?

290 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:33:30pm

re: #289 Decatur Deb

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

291 sattv4u2  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:33:40pm

and on that note,,, an 2 hours of maintenance on a back up power system followed by the long quiet drive home

292 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:33:51pm

re: #274 prairiefire

Smoked cheese is an abomination!/

If I made some Triscuit snacks with melted in smoked Gouda topped with a tiny dollop of salsa you would eat them and pronounce them yummy, come over to the "smoked side" padawan...

293 jaunte  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:33:58pm

re: #288 Johnny Derp

Each pun thread takes a unique formaggio of its own.

294 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:34:14pm

re: #275 Johnny Derp

Some of what changed was that Derbyshire made a direct accusation of inferiority aimed and African-Americans, one based entirely on race. That is still entirely out-of-bounds in a mainstream publication.

Also different was that Derbyshire said it in direct reaction to the commentary on the Trayvon Martin case. In so doing, he gave approving voice to the sentiments that led George Zimmerman to suspect Martin of wrongdoing based solely on his appearance.

Those two things alone would warrant termination.

295 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:35:23pm

re: #274 prairiefire

Smoked cheese is an abomination!/

you can pry my hazlenut-shell smoked Oregon bleu cheese from my cold dead hands

if I was a condemned man, the above would be part of my last meal

296 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:35:34pm

re: #290 Johnny Derp

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Ah. Zola. Hmmm. Monster authors with snakehair...mutter...mutter.

297 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:35:47pm

re: #277 Decatur Deb

That takes me feel bleu.

298 Interesting Times  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:36:31pm

Speaking of spittle-spewing, disconnected-from-reality derp, I normally don't engage Twitter wingnuts. On the rare occasions when I do, the inevitable result validates my initial reluctance entirely:

299 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:36:39pm

re: #293 jaunte

Each pun thread takes a unique formaggio of its own.

Que,so what's next?

300 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:37:23pm

re: #298 Interesting Times

We're supposes take someone named "Marlar" seriously? ///

301 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:38:13pm

re: #299 Decatur Deb

Que,so what's next?

Let's talk about Rush Limburger.

302 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:38:18pm

re: #284 Decatur Deb

Something, something gorgonzola.

Over-reach. That's why I always lose at Scrabble.

It works similarly for me. It's not our fault. "Gorgonzola" sounds like a creature in the Godzilla universe. Also consider "Rutabaga". Just as you would assume a political candidate named "Abaddon Vindictus" is probably not a man of the people, so too would you assume that a substitute teacher named "Rutabaga Glampers" would definitely NOT be a fun break from your regular teacher.

303 Aye Pod  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:38:51pm

re: #219 goddamnedfrank

If we were to believe him, he's a violent psychopathic thug. I think it's probably more likely that he's just a frustrated wannabe crusader in the usual chairborne mould. In either case we're talking about an infantile, bigoted, semi-literate idiot who is responsible for some of the dumbest internet postings we've ever seen.

304 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:39:23pm

re: #295 windupbird is in the gravity well

you can pry my hazlenut-shell smoked Oregon bleu cheese from my cold dead hands

if I was a condemned man, the above would be part of my last meal

Not in Texas.

[Link: articles.cnn.com...]

305 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:39:28pm

re: #287 Aye Pod

Great article, Gus.

Just how infantile is Rodan's attempt to explain away his use of the n-word? Could he really be so stupid as to think anyone will believe that a white person calling black people by that name in anger could conceivably be described as "NY street talk"? (answer=YES). What a joke.

He wouldn't last 5 seconds on the NY street pulling shit like that, not that he'd ever dare of course.

He wouldn't last 15 minutes in the real world talking like that. But yeah, I found this by accident. He figured out that I found it by a comment I left at LGF last night. So, he went and posted it on Diary of Diarrhea. Don't ask me what he said since that's all I know. Youtube pulls the video for hate speech. So, Charles had to host it on his server. Sure enough one of Rodents minions was saying some BS about "Charles hosting hate speech" over here. Right after Rodent put the same video up overnight or something.

306 Interesting Times  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:39:32pm

re: #300 Johnny Derp

We're supposes take someone named "Marlar" seriously? ///

It gets worse o_O

307 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:40:57pm

re: #306 Interesting Times

It gets worse o_O

WTF is that? Yikes. It's a pandemic of crazy.

308 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:41:27pm

re: #295 windupbird is in the gravity well

you can pry my hazlenut-shell smoked Oregon bleu cheese from my cold dead hands

Challenge accepted.

309 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:43:27pm

re: #306 Interesting Times

Well, there's another racist.

310 jvic  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:43:42pm

re: #273 Decatur Deb

I don't know Feldman--old culture-bound ears. I can enjoy Glass and Moondog, but nothing less sensual. There's a good bit of Moondog on YT.

Other than a year of violin, I have no musical training. There are major gaps in my knowledge of the repertoire, and I can't explain my likes and dislikes. But since my brother was encouraged to become a classical pianist, I'm pretty sure I'm legitimately registering structure.

Also, the repertoire I find accessible continues to grow with time, so I'm undergoing some kind of acclimatization and learning.

311 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:43:49pm

re: #305 Gus

Gus you did me a favor with this post. Usually I ignore the twitter/facebook/blog flame wars and rivalries quite deliberately. This post put it in my face as to why it's worth spending some time outing these particular haters. R/t'd & Liked

312 justaminute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:43:58pm

re: #247 Johnny Derp

I think Muslims around the place Martinez lives should know more about him. I think he is dangerous to them.

I know a lot of Muslims in Long Island. I'll ask around. But there's a lot of guys and girls that love to mouth off about Muslims or even if you look like what they assume a Muslim looks like and generally they spout off and leave as soon as they say it. Like on their way out of the door. I've seen that too many times at the restaurant and it's really true. When ever I witness it at the restaurant towards my husband they always are standing at the doorway with their hand on the door and make a fast exit. Every time.

After listening to Rodan, I really think he is a performance bigot and was playing for the crowd. He's trying to build and maintain a rep. Would love to see his pic. The "I'm not kidding" line seems to me that the story he is telling may not match his appearance. He probably looks like a little toad with a big mouth.

313 Aye Pod  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:44:03pm

re: #305 Gus

He wouldn't last 15 minutes in the real world talking like that. But yeah, I found this by accident. He figured out that I found it by a comment I left at LGF last night. So, he went and posted it on Diary of Diarrhea. Don't ask me what he said since that's all I know. Youtube pulls the video for hate speech. So, Charles had to host it on his server. Sure enough one of Rodents minions was saying some BS about "Charles hosting hate speech" over here. Right after Rodent put the same video up overnight or something.

LOL. The idiocy really is staggering to behold sometimes.

314 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:44:29pm

re: #301 Johnny Derp

Let's talk about Rush Limburger.

I'll kraft a clever reply--it's in process right now.

315 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:44:30pm

re: #311 Daniel Ballard

Gus you did me a favor with this post. Usually I ignore the twitter/facebook/blog flame wars and rivalries quite deliberately. This post put it in my face as to why it's worth spending some time outing these particular haters. R/t'd & Liked

Thanks!

316 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:45:24pm

re: #314 Decatur Deb

I'll kraft a clever reply--it's in process right now.

Gouda, gouda. This brynza me back...

317 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:46:02pm

re: #311 Daniel Ballard

Gus you did me a favor with this post. Usually I ignore the twitter/facebook/blog flame wars and rivalries quite deliberately. This post put it in my face as to why it's worth spending some time outing these particular haters. R/t'd & Liked

Yeah, the hate runs deep & ugly. This post should be considered a PSA.

318 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:46:40pm

re: #304 Decatur Deb

Not in Texas.

[Link: articles.cnn.com...]

I don't live there! Respect for Austin and The Sword, tho

319 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:47:17pm

re: #312 justaminute

Supposedly, like 600-800k Muslims live in NYC and the immediate area. I don't know if CuriousLurker is one of these, I can't remember if she said which Metropolitan area she is a part of.

Also, I have heard from someone I watch on Mondays that Long Island is rather snotty and other such things.

320 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:47:48pm

re: #317 CuriousLurker

Yeah, the hate runs deep & ugly. This post should be considered a PSA.

"Mothers keep your children away from people like this."

321 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:48:19pm

re: #316 Johnny Derp

Gouda, gouda. This brynza me back...

"As I ago walking one morning in May.."

322 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:51:25pm

re: #317 CuriousLurker

Yeah, the hate runs deep.. This post should be considered a PSA.

Indeed.

The change in my head was to take the new media haters as seriously as I do the print/radio/street haters. I make little use of FB & Twitter, so I under rated their importance.

323 justaminute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:51:33pm

re: #319 ProGunLiberal

Supposedly, like 600-800k Muslims live in NYC and the immediate area. I don't know if CuriousLurker is one of these, I can't remember if she said which Metropolitan area she is a part of.

Also, I have heard from someone I watch on Mondays that Long Island is rather snotty and other such things.

I don't pay attention when someone that characterizes a community one way or another. Generally they are just referring to someone they know that lives there. Ask them some questions about it, usually they refer to one or two people.

324 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:54:10pm

re: #302 Satanic Ritual Kazoo

It works similarly for me. It's not our fault. "Gorgonzola" sounds like a creature in the Godzilla universe. Also consider "Rutabaga". Just as you would assume a political candidate named "Abaddon Vindictus" is probably not a man of the people, so too would you assume that a substitute teacher named "Rutabaga Glampers" would definitely NOT be a fun break from your regular teacher.

I was once interviewed by a Saint Petersburg police detective whose name was Myron Shingledecker, I have to admit to having a hard time keeping a straight face when he introduced himself. Pity no one gets to pick their own name, except until recently online...

325 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:57:24pm

re: #305 Gus

He wouldn't last 15 minutes in the real world talking like that. But yeah, I found this by accident. He figured out that I found it by a comment I left at LGF last night. So, he went and posted it on Diary of Diarrhea. Don't ask me what he said since that's all I know. Youtube pulls the video for hate speech. So, Charles had to host it on his server. Sure enough one of Rodents minions was saying some BS about "Charles hosting hate speech" over here. Right after Rodent put the same video up overnight or something.

It's only "hate speech" if someone else points it out, right?

/Rodan, your ass sucks canal water

326 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:57:27pm

re: #319 ProGunLiberal

Supposedly, like 600-800k Muslims live in NYC and the immediate area. I don't know if CuriousLurker is one of these, I can't remember if she said which Metropolitan area she is a part of.

Yes, I live in the NY Metropolitan Area, and there are easily hundreds of thousands of Muslims. As a matter of fact, I have Muslims living on all sides of me in my apartment building. Plus, as with most non-Muslim NY'ers, people tend to move around between NYC/NJ/CT and southern states like NC/SC/GA and Florida. Word travels fast up & down those corridors.

Also, I have heard from someone I watch on Mondays that Long Island is rather snotty and other such things.

Depends on where you go and who you happen to encounter, just like anywhere else.

327 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 6:59:32pm

re: #326 CuriousLurker

Again, watch a person on Radio Dead Air during a particular segment who came from LI, and usually has some weird stories. She didn't exactly have a positive view of her former home.

328 justaminute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 7:05:22pm

re: #327 ProGunLiberal

Again, watch a person on Radio Dead Air during a particular segment who came from LI, and usually has some weird stories. She didn't exactly have a positive view of her former home.

We know 5 or 6 couples that lived in Oklahoma during their college years and moved to Long Island/NYC area and they love it. Most say that they wish they had moved there to go to college and wished they had never lived so long in Oklahoma. Everyone has an opinion. And we all love to share it. Ha ha

329 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 7:09:38pm

re: #328 justaminute

Right. I've ranted a great deal about COS, so I see your point.

I regret the way I acted in High School much more now. Why you ask? Because the friend of mine that I had feelings for (who is still very friendly with me), was just able to tear down my hardline against those I percieve as radical. I had no comeback, and I admit defeat.

If it weren't for the fact that I was mildly demonic in High School, she might feel differently. Now, I feel tremendously guilty about my past.

330 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 7:14:10pm

re: #245 Charles Johnson

BTW, many thanks to you as well for providing a well-known venue and the means to get things out there, Charles. You provide a level of exposure that we couldn't get on our own, and I know it costs you in terms of increased personal harassment.

Please know that it's noted & sincerely appreciated. Jazakallahu khayran.1

1. Listens for the sound of haters' *heads exploding*. ;)

331 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 7:16:59pm

re: #329 ProGunLiberal

If I could go back in time, I would smack sense into my High School self. Whether that would be physically or rhetorically, I wouldn't be able to tell you.

332 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 7:24:34pm

re: #331 ProGunLiberal

If I could go back in time, I would smack sense into my High School self. Whether that would be physically or rhetorically, I wouldn't be able to tell you.

Nothing you can do about the past, but you have the option of using the present & future to seek out positive things & people to feed your mind.

Free will—the choices are yours, and no one but you will answer for them. None of us knows how much time we have left, so it's best to use it wisely.

333 Kronocide  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 7:46:59pm

Wow, what a day. Derbyshire paid the price for being too racist, and the mask fell of one of the head stalkers.

What a disturbed dude.

334 Kronocide  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 7:50:40pm

CL: he accused you of 'threatening' him on his blog. For implying that you were going to warn local Muslims that he's unhinged, after he's on file as saying he has 'cut' and 'stabbed' Muslims.

That's so twisted, not even funny.

335 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 9:28:09pm

re: #317 CuriousLurker

Yeah, the hate runs deep & ugly. This post should be considered a PSA.

"Bigoted, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son."

336 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 10:13:18pm

CuriousLurker got me thinking.

Could you imagine if a Muslim had said this about Christians or Jews?

Even a nobody like Rodan.

If he were Muslim and that he helped attack a synagogue and had slashed Jews faces just for being Jewish?

337 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 11:49:27pm

re: #336 Gus

CuriousLurker got me thinking.

Could you imagine if a Muslim had said this about Christians or Jews?

Even a nobody like Rodan.

If he were Muslim and that he helped attack a synagogue and had slashed Jews faces just for being Jewish?

Well, I imagine that Rodan's supporters would feel rather differently about it in that case.

338 Gus  Sat, Apr 7, 2012 11:54:34pm

re: #337 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, I imagine that Rodan's supporters would feel rather differently about it in that case.

That's part of my point. They need to think about what it would be like from a different perspective. To think, what if it was me or my group?

339 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 10:09:52am

Gus,

I hope Rodan spends some quality time behind bars for what he did. I also hope this videos goes a long way to expose the "counter Jihad movement," for what it really it. The good news is that Rodan may well have helped us, and not realized it.


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