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National Review Writer Robert Weissberg Attends White Nationalist Gathering

‘American Renaissance Conference Takes to the Woods’
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In the wake of John Derbyshire’s racist article at Taki’s magazine and subsequent dismissal from National Review, I have just learned (via @silviobreckman) that another National Review writer, Robert Weissberg, appeared at the annual American Renaissance gathering alongside white supremacist and Political Cesspool radio host, James Edwards.

Robert Weissberg (left) alongside white supremacist James Edwards and Jared Taylor on the right.

American Renaissance Conference Takes to the Woods
by Leonard Zeskind
April 5, 2012

• Robert Weissberg argued that white nationalism itself should be abandoned in favor of finding segregated white enclaves to live in—which is what many white people are already doing. — Leonard Zeskind

• In his 2010 Bad Students, Not Bad Schools, he claims that Hispanics and blacks have lower IQs than whites and Asians, a difference, he claims, that is genetically determined. — Wikipedia

That the American Renaissance 2012 conference took place at all was a cause for minor celebration by the participants. The scientific racists, academics, lawyers and assorted white nationalists who attend these events had been frustrated for the several years by the anti-racists who had successfully protested their events, rendering it nearly impossible for them to fool a private hotel in a big city into booking their confab. So, this time the so-called racial realists retreated to the Tennessee woods. Specifically, American Renaissancers had to drive almost an hour west of the Nashville airport before they got to Montgomery Bell State Park, where they parked over the 16-17 March weekend. They were all pleased with the results: A quiet affair amidst beautiful surroundings with little noise intruding from the outside.

Robert Weissberg

By all accounts, the anti-Semites in the mix kept quiet about the “real enemy,” while American Renaissance chief Jared Taylor tried to construct a viable white nationalism without open hatred of “the Jews.” David Duke did not attend and stand up and demand a discussion of the people he loves to hate. Michael Hart did not pull out, insulted that David Duke had been allowed to pull off his unseemly stunt. There was little snarky national socialist sideline banter like that which acolytes of William Pierce had produced in the past.

James Edwards

The main subject at hand is always the problems created by people of color and white liberals who want to live in a society of political and social equality among the races. And Jared Taylor spoke as if this crowd of racists was really a group of Copernicus-like seers into the workings of the universe. Unlike the first Renaissancer conference that took place in 1994 at an Atlanta airport hotel, however, this event focused less on the “problem,” and more on finding a solution. Various forms of eugenics were proposed. Sam Dickson once again proposed the “ethno state,” not mentioning, of course, the Yugo-like bloodshed and horror that would be necessary to institute such a thing. American Third Position (A3P) presidential candidate Merlin Miller, a Hollywood film industry insider turned white nationalist, told the crowd that his was the only party concerned with “white dispossession.” And Robert Weissberg argued that white nationalism itself should be abandoned in favor of finding segregated white enclaves to live in—which is what many white people are already doing.

Read the whole thing at IREHR.

Leonard Zeskind is an American human rights activist, and president of the Institute for Research & Education of Human Rights (IREHR).

He worked in industry for thirteen years. Since 1982, he has been a community activist and human rights advocate. He is known for his research into extreme right, racist, and anti-Semitic organizations in the United States.

He is a lifetime member of the NAACP, and has served on the board of directors of the Petra Foundation, and the Kansas City Jewish Community Relations Bureau.

American Renaissance at SPLCenter

Founded: 1990
Location: Oakton, Va.
Profiled Leadership: Jared Taylor

Ideology: White Nationalist

Founded by Jared Taylor in 1990, the New Century Foundation is a self-styled think tank that promotes pseudo-scientific studies and research that purport to show the inferiority of blacks to whites — although in hifalutin language that avoids open racial slurs and attempts to portray itself as serious scholarship. It is best known for its American Renaissance magazine and website, which regularly feature proponents of eugenics and blatant anti-black racists. The foundation also sponsors American Renaissance conferences every other year where racist “intellectuals” rub shoulders with Klansmen, neo-Nazis and other white supremacists.

AmRen Conference Held in Tennessee
by Henry Wolff, American Renaissance
March 19, 2012

The first speaker Saturday morning was the always stimulating Robert Weissberg, Emeritus professor of University of Illinois at Champagne, who proposed “A Politically Viable Alternative to White Nationalism.” He argued that any movement that is explicitly based on white racial identity is “dead on arrival,” and must be repackaged in order to win successful recognition. The reality—that racial nationalism “is intuitive and written in our genes” and that even children are conscious of race—is a huge advantage for those who want to build a racial movement, but any white movement today that takes an explicitly racial stand will fail: “We are considered just above child molesters.” Prof. Weissberg also noted that there is no economic advantage to promoting white racial consciousness, and that most people do not act without financial incentives.

In 1999, Robert Weissberg wrote the following for American Renaissance:

In Defense of the Racial Spoils System
Today’s corrupt racial system may be the best we can expect.
by Robert Weissberg

I would like to advance a thesis that all AR readers — myself included — will find loathsome: Namely, that the existing racial spoils system (affirmative action, the double standard in crime, “sensitivity” towards black deficiencies, and everything else) is the best possible deal we can get under today’s deplorable circumstances. Perhaps “real-politik” more accurately describes my argument. Black-white co-existence is a little like having an incurable medical condition. Nothing even faintly resembling a commendable fix is on the horizon, and present corruptions are the best obtainable. This is a truly disturbing view but, alas, harshly realistic.

Let me state the argument starkly. I suspect few readers will challenge the facts except for point 6.

1. The black-white difference in cognitive ability is, at least for the foreseeable future, both large and intractable. The gap’s source — whether genetic or environmental — is irrelevant for present purposes. Remaining differences in accomplishment cannot be eliminated by combating discrimination, racism or any other nefarious white scheme, regardless of what blacks and their white allies contend. Top-down, hugely expensive remedial efforts to equalize intelligence have failed, and effective eugenic solutions are not possible in today’s political and moral climate.

2. Economic rewards generally follow the contours of intelligence, regardless of race. This has been established empirically and is obvious in daily life. Moreover, unless there is an egalitarian revolution, this intelligence-income nexus will probably grow closer. Blacks themselves may be making matters worse by promoting Afrocentric education and insisting on lower competency standards. The tenacious attachment of most blacks to preferential treatment is a tacit admission of their inability to compete. Without government intervention blacks will secure substantially less wealth than whites.

3. Blacks want the material rewards of modern society, especially what can be consumed personally (clothing, electronic appliances, cars), as much as anyone. Without white generosity, blacks cannot satisfy this material quest, so, predictably, it now defines the black political agenda in the form of so-called “economic justice.”

4. Blacks generally have a well-deserved reputation for hair-triggered collective violence. Such mayhem is easily but unpredictably provoked — a routine traffic stop can destroy an entire neighborhood. While the actual turmoil may involve depraved underclass blacks, it is usually defended by middle-class black politicians and academics.

Continues.

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96 comments

1 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 12:50:38pm

Hey! I was just about to start writing a post on this. Good thing I hadn't started yet - you beat me to it. This deserves a promotion - but I'll leave it here for a little while in case you want to edit anything.

2 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 12:52:04pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Hey! I was just about to start writing a post on this. Good thing I hadn't started yet - you beat me to it. This deserves a promotion - but I'll leave it here for a little while in case you want to edit anything.

Thanks. I'll give it a better look.

3 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 12:54:29pm

Suggestion: put his name in the title.

4 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 12:57:29pm

Check spelling of 'dismissal.'

5 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 12:58:28pm

Suggestion: link Derbyshire's name to the LGF article about his Takimag article.

6 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:02:23pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Suggestion: link Derbyshire's name to the LGF article about his Takimag article.

OK, did all that and added one of his "racial realist" pieces at the end.

7 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:05:53pm

Suggestion: link the word 'dismissal' to the LGF article about his firing.

8 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:07:52pm

By the way - I just set up an accesskey shortcut for editing posts. If it's your post, you can open the editing popup by typing Alt-E. (Ctrl-Option-E on Mac.)

9 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:08:13pm

Great page, Gus!

10 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:08:52pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

By the way - I just set up an accesskey shortcut for editing posts. If it's your post, you can open the editing popup by typing Ctrl-E. (Ctrl-Option-E on Mac.)

re: #9 Johnny Derp

Great page, Gus!

Thanks!

11 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:09:54pm

Sorry, that's Alt-E in Windows, not Ctrl-E.

12 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:12:21pm

Here's a handy reference for which modifier keys to use for accesskeys in the most popular browsers:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

There are a bunch of these set up at LGF, have been for years, but I suspect most people don't know about them.

For example, the accesskey to jump into the LGF search box is S, and the key to search news is N.

13 Sophia77  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:20:32pm

Whoa. I cannot believe this. The assertions about "intelligence" and "white generosity" are breathtaking, especially in view of our history of slavery, and how Europe was enriched by slave labor, American too.

My goodness.

I think I need an aspirin now or maybe four.

14 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:21:57pm

It would help to know who Leonard Zeskind is and who or what IREHR is before clicking on the link. Thanks

15 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:23:15pm

re: #14 Bulworth

It would help to know who Leonard Zeskind is and who or what IREHR is before clicking on the link. Thanks

Leonard Zeskind is an American human rights activist, and president of the Institute for Research & Education of Human Rights (IREHR).[1]

He worked in industry for thirteen years. Since 1982, he has been a community activist and human rights advocate. He is known for his research into extreme right, racist, and anti-Semitic organizations in the United States.

He is a lifetime member of the NAACP, and has served on the board of directors of the Petra Foundation, and the Kansas City Jewish Community Relations Bureau.

16 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:24:14pm

re: #15 Gus
Thanks

17 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:27:58pm

OK, unless you want to do anything else with it, I'm going to promote it in a few minutes. The Twitter counter's already going wild.

18 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:28:36pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

OK, unless you want to do anything else with it, I'm going to promote it in a few minutes. The Twitter counter's already going wild.

I think it's ready. Just added the short blurb on the original author from Wiki.

19 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:30:12pm

OK, I'll give it 10 more minutes.

20 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:35:10pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

OK, I'll give it 10 more minutes.

Hope the direct links to AmRen are OK with you.

21 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:44:06pm

re: #20 Gus

Hope the direct links to AmRen are OK with you.

I went ahead and changed those to Google cache links. Here we go to the front page...

22 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:45:19pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

I went ahead and changed those to Google cache links. Here we go to the front page...

Thanks. I was being a little lazy.

23 researchok  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:48:43pm

Tool season.

Good catch.

24 STLActivist  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:53:42pm

Yikes, that's disturbing. Let's see how serious the National Review really is about taking a stand against racism. If they admitted they were wrong twice in one week I'm pretty sure that would be a world record for any right-wing organization.

25 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:54:16pm
26 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:57:10pm

re: #25 Gus

[Embedded content]

Nice job, Gus. I tweeted it too, to my 2 dozen followers. :)

27 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:57:37pm

Gus has been kicking ass and taking names.

28 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 1:58:28pm

re: #26 wrenchwench

Nice job, Gus. I tweeted it too, to my 2 dozen followers. :)

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Gus has been kicking ass and taking names.

Thanks!

29 Obdicut  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:04:03pm

re: #25 Gus

Sweet. That's one journalist I have a lot of respect for.

30 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:04:31pm

If it's not too late, note the repetitive block of text in the article--ending each with the phrase "are already doing".

31 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:06:12pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

If it's not too late, note the repetitive block of text in the article--last, and near-last.

Right. Charles can you remove the first one there. Without the bolded text.

The main subject at hand is always the problems created by people of color and white liberals who want to live in a society of political and social equality among the races. And Jared Taylor spoke as if this crowd of racists was really a group of Copernicus-like seers into the workings of the universe. Unlike the first Renaissancer conference that took place in 1994 at an Atlanta airport hotel, however, this event focused less on the “problem,” and more on finding a solution. Various forms of eugenics were proposed. Sam Dickson once again proposed the “ethno state,” not mentioning, of course, the Yugo-like bloodshed and horror that would be necessary to institute such a thing. American Third Position (A3P) presidential candidate Merlin Miller, a Hollywood film industry insider turned white nationalist, told the crowd that his was the only party concerned with “white dispossession.” And Robert Weissberg argued that white nationalism itself should be abandoned in favor of finding segregated white enclaves to live in—which is what many white people are already doing.

32 Obdicut  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:08:21pm

By the way, I've read Leonard Zeskind's book Blood and Politics: The History of the White Nationalist Movement from the Margins to the Mainstream. It's an excellent look at the way that white power organizations intentionally organize to affect politics in the US, and provides a good explanation of how so many nativists have been able to wield power inside the GOP for so long.

He provides an important reminder that white nationalists are not all face-tattooed assholes drinking pabst blue ribbon, but lawyers, doctors, and professors as well. Racism is not a class phenomenon.

33 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:08:43pm

I moved the Zeskind bio information to the bottom of his quoted article, by the way.

34 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:09:26pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

I moved the Zeskind bio information to the bottom of his quoted article, by the way.

Perfect.

35 jaunte  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:10:44pm

Robert Weissberg ignores any evidence to the contrary and posits that 'white racism' against blacks is a fabrication.

"Until the 1970s "white racism" never arose as explanations of racial inequality. Admittedly, many whites disliked blacks but aversion by itself hardly explained inequity. Dominant accounts stressed slavery's horrific legacy (including undermining black family life), restricted electoral access, third-rate schools, explicit "no colored need apply" policies among employers and landlords, ubiquitous self-esteem lowering segregation, physical intimidation and other outwardly visible culprits. White behavior, not attitudes per se, were decisive.
...snip...
To condense a complicated story, a market for un-provable, often outlandish "theories" to explain the unfathomable has always thrived. The inclination knows no particular race or era; it is probably an intractable human instinct. In the 14th century bad weather was blamed on witchcraft and witches were murdered. The bubonic plague was similarly attributed to Jews. In today's obsessing over racial equality of outcomes one must account for multiple discrepancies, and with the declining veracity of historic explanations, the impossible-to-refute, even imperceptible boogyman of "white racism" satisfies this powerful urge.

So when Obama's ill-conceived, extravagant healthcare plan "unexpectedly" floundered in Congress, blacks point the finger at white racism. Qualms about the plan being too expensive or too bureaucratic are just ruses. When the public loses confidence in Obama's economic stimulus plan, just repeat the now familiar indictment as if witches killed the crops. Rep. Charley Rangel even blames his tax problems on "white racism." This unseen devil theory of politics is almost addictive, a handy substitute for time-consuming serious analysis (and no prudent white public figure dares challenges blacks about their feelings). So, as more verifiable explanations for continuing racial inequality or inept policy-making by a black president are forcefully pushed aside, the reflexive "white racism" explanation fills the vacuum. And since white racism's debilitating power is invisible and beyond scientific verification, it will be with us so long as there are racial inequalities."

Google cache link:
[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

36 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:10:58pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

I moved the Zeskind bio information to the bottom of his quoted article, by the way.

There's also that extra block of text that needs to be deleted.

37 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:11:44pm
38 jaunte  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:15:43pm

re: #37 wrenchwench

How many white supremacists have to write for a magazine before it's just a white supremacist magazine?

Mark Steyn: "If Derb’s piece is sufficiently beyond the pale that its author must be terminated immediately, why is its publisher — our old friend Taki — proudly listed on the NR masthead?"

39 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:16:26pm

re: #35 jaunte

Robert Weisberg ignores any evidence to the contrary and posits that 'white racism' against blacks is a fabrication.

Yet he doesn't hesitate to come up with half-baked ideas under the banner of "scientific racialism". These are some of the worst kinds of racists. Intelligent and with a relatively influential audience. It is also easier to hide to the untrained eye since he doesn't outright use the rhetoric of "n-words" commonly associated with racists. Of course with Weissberg he also plays the roll of "what an intelligent man should sound like" to an ignorant audience.

40 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:19:03pm

Wow, our progressive peronitsa is on fire lately! Inside my head you're kinda starting to look like this guy now. ;o)

Great post.

41 Obdicut  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:19:35pm

So what'd they fire Derbyshire for? Looks like they're totally fine with white supremacists.

42 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:20:03pm
So when Obama's conservative-based, mandate centered ill-conceived, minimalist and incremental extravagant healthcare plan "unexpectedly" floundered in Congress

Fxd

43 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:20:35pm

re: #40 CuriousLurker

Wow, our progressive peronitsa is on fire lately! Inside my head you're kinda starting to look like this guy now. ;o)

Great post.

Thanks. I'm sure my other fan-club's heads are on fire once again.

44 Lidane  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:21:35pm

re: #41 Obdicut

So what'd they fire Derbyshire for? Looks like they're totally fine with white supremacists.

Of course they are. It's part of their history. These days, they just couch it all in talk of welfare queens, The Bell Curve, and urban crime.

Derbyshire's problem wasn't what he said. It was that he was too open about being racist asshole, and he was generating bad press for NR. =P

45 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:22:23pm

Check this out - the WSJ's James Taranto totally fell for a bogus William Jacobson blog post claiming the Sanford neo-Nazi story wasn't true:

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

46 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:23:46pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Check this out - the WSJ's James Taranto totally fell for a bogus William Jacobson blog post claiming the Sanford neo-Nazi story wasn't true:

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Charles. I'm still seeing that extra paragraph above the pic of James Edwards.

47 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:24:19pm

re: #44 Lidane

Of course they are. It's part of their history. These days, they just couch it all in talk of welfare queens, The Bell Curve, and urban crime.

Derbyshire's problem wasn't what he said. It was that he was too open about being racist asshole, and he was generating bad press for NR. =P

Pretty much. If they say it out loud, they lose deniability.

48 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:24:32pm

Looks like the entire right wing blogosphere has decided that the Sanford neo-Nazi story was bogus.

Despite the fact that there's a video showing an interview with the leader of the NSM talking about their plans to patrol Sanford.

Wow.

49 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:24:35pm

It looks more and more that the racists answer to Presidents Obamas near certain re election is double down and bitch for four more years. Trouble is they do have a violent component that may just break the whole ugly edifice wide open.

50 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:26:39pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Looks like the entire right wing blogosphere has decided that the Sanford neo-Nazi story was bogus.

Despite the fact that there's a video showing an interview with the leader of the NSM talking about their plans to patrol Sanford.

Wow.

What, they couldn't get people to agree that the Neo-Nazis were "just as bad" as the New Black Panthers?

51 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:27:27pm

re: #40 CuriousLurker

Wow, our progressive peronitsa is on fire lately! Inside my head you're kinda starting to look like this guy now. ;o)

Great post.

Man, gus has a funny hat.

52 dragonfire1981  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:28:50pm

Gus you really need your own blog. You constantly find great stuff to write on. I would say your a big part of the LGF pages A team.

53 jaunte  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:28:58pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

We noted in 2008 that the Southern Poverty Law Center was issuing dubious claims of an upsurge in white supremacy as a backlash against Barack Obama, then the presumptive Democratic nominee for president. As we wrote at the time, "the white supremacists and the 'experts' who oppose them have a common interest in maximizing the perception of the former's influence."

Taranto has discovered there is no such thing as neo-nazis or right-wing domestic terrorists.

54 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:29:54pm

Taranto is a wingnut. Secondly, I find it odd that they're so quick to discredit the notion that the NSM would attempt to patrol Sanford's streets.

55 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:30:01pm

Just wait, if cooler heads do not prevail we could have the NBP and the supremacists "patrolling" the same streets.

56 funky chicken  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:30:10pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

If it's not too late, note the repetitive block of text in the article--ending each with the phrase "are already doing".

beat me to it

57 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:31:16pm

re: #53 jaunte

Taranto has discovered there is no such thing as neo-nazis or right-wing domestic terrorists.

Yes, and the Citadel Council believes that "Reapers" are a myth.

/(geek moment)

58 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:31:59pm

re: #52 dragonfire1981

Gus you really need your own blog. You constantly find great stuff to write on. I would say your a big part of the LGF pages A team.

Thanks. Silvio helped since I saw his Tweet this morning. I don't even know if he's a member here? Anyway, I figured this would make a great page. Especially by adding the visuals of Weissberg standing right next to James Edwards.

59 b_sharp  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:33:07pm

re: #35 jaunte

What a shit-stained piece of work this guy is.

60 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:33:20pm
Despite the fact that there's a video showing an interview with the leader of the NSM talking about their plans to patrol Sanford.

Oh, the National Socialists? They're leftists and fascists. We don't have anything to do with them.

61 Lidane  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:33:51pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Reality has a well-known liberal bias. They simply can't handle it, so it's safer to deny everything, despite the evidence.

62 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:36:18pm

re: #61 Lidane

Reality has a well-known liberal bias. They simply can't handle it, so it's safer to deny everything, despite the evidence.

Oh I'm pretty sure that NRO will ignore Robert Weissberg's activity. Which means NRO still harbors white supremacists.

63 funky chicken  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:39:40pm
Robert Weissberg, Emeritus professor of University of Illinois at Champagne

I never came across a tenured White Supremacist before.

64 b_sharp  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:40:12pm

re: #62 Gus

Oh I'm pretty sure that NRO will ignore Robert Weissberg's activity. Which means NRO still harbors white supremacists.

NRO needs to admit it's a white supremacy based site.

65 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:40:45pm

re: #64 Born Young

NRO needs to admit it's a white supremacy based site.

Nationalist Review Online

66 jaunte  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:42:30pm

PZ Myers: In defense of John Derbyshire

He’s just been saying what the right wing has been thinking all along. And he’s been saying it for at least the last 10 years (which is about how long I’ve been aware of him), and no one on the right has been complaining about him. If his unashamed haunting of the cesspools of racism didn’t get him fired, why now? And if the wingnuts are just now getting around to cleaning house, can we expect Jonah Goldberg, Victor Davis Hanson, and Michelle Malkin to get the axe next? I mean, Derbyshire just whined about avoiding those black folks; Malkin has written a whole book advocating racist internment camps.

67 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:42:43pm

re: #63 funky chicken

I never came across a tenured White Supremacist before.

Kevin B. MacDonald could be seen as one. Although not tenured.

68 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:45:31pm

re: #51 Varek Raith

Man, gus has a funny hat.

Heh, yeah. He doesn't look very big, but I don't think I'd want to tangle with him. Tango maybe...no wait, Zamba...or Malambo even.

I hear those boots are good for kicking ass.

69 jaunte  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:45:46pm
70 Obdicut  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:46:39pm

Alright. Time to take my wife out for a dinner celebrating her completion of her 2nd year of medical school.

My wife is 1/4 Roma, an abhorrence to the white supremacist assholes. She's also in the top quarter of her class at one of the best medical schools in the country, and is brilliant, charming, lovely, gracious, and funny as hell.

Fuck you racists: You don't know what you're missing.

71 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:50:50pm

re: #70 Obdicut

awesome, congratulations to her

72 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:51:38pm

I started a new job today!

73 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:55:01pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Check this out - the WSJ's James Taranto totally fell for a bogus William Jacobson blog post claiming the Sanford neo-Nazi story wasn't true:

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

This is curious. I followed the links to the Miami News times.
Armed Neo-Nazis Now Patrolling Sanford, Say They Are "Prepared" for Post-Trayvon Martin Violence UPDATED

UPDATE: The Sanford Police Department says it has no evidence of neo-Nazis in the area. "We have not seen any neo-Nazis on patrol nor have we had any reports of them," Sgt. David Morgenstern says. He adds there have been no signs of the New Black Panther Party either.

The claim is doubtful that the neoNazis are performing patrols but it takes about 10 seconds to find recent pictures of the Black Panthers in Sanford. I'm not so sure the police statement is accurate.

74 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:56:15pm

re: #66 jaunte

PZ Myers: In defense of John Derbyshire

This wasn't simply a matter of firing Derbyshire. PZ Myers also didn't make an effort to criticize what he had written at Taki's and other places. He seems to be disturbed by the fact that they had fired him and I find that rather intriguing.

75 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:57:11pm

re: #72 Learned Mother of Zion

I started a new job today!

Hooray!

76 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 2:59:13pm

re: #74 Gus

This wasn't simply a matter of firing Derbyshire. PZ Myers also didn't make an effort to criticize what he had written at Taki's and other places. He seems to be disturbed by the fact that they had fired him and I find that rather intriguing.

Did you read all of PZ Myers's post?

Derbyshire is a racist, misogynistic hack who has been saying this stuff for years. It’s a non-story, something that everyone with any sense has been pointing out for years: for instance, I’ve talked about how Derbyshire claimed Obama will destroy science because he is black, and science would expose him as genetically inferior. This is the guy who thinks women shouldn’t be allowed to vote and wants to repeal the civil rights act. He’s a nasty piece of work.

77 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:00:26pm

re: #73 Killgore Trout

This is curious. I followed the links to the Miami News times.
Armed Neo-Nazis Now Patrolling Sanford, Say They Are "Prepared" for Post-Trayvon Martin Violence UPDATED

The claim is doubtful that the neoNazis are performing patrols but it takes about 10 seconds to find recent pictures of the Black Panthers in Sanford. I'm not so sure the police statement is accurate.

Doubt either of these clownshows have the manpower to mount a remote 24/7 effort. Both groups mailed a postcard and got the validating t-shirt.

78 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:02:41pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

Doubt either of these clownshows have the manpower to mount a remote 24/7 effort. Both groups mailed a postcard and got the validating t-shirt.

It seems the Panthers at least piled into a car and drove down to make an appearance. As far as I can tell the Nazis just phoned the press from home.

79 Obdicut  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:02:56pm

re: #73 Killgore Trout

I think the police are talking about the NBP not walking around doing patrols. That's a picture of them standing near Trayvon's memorial.

I mean, it's a whole google search of unrelated pictures, but I assume the one you wanted was the one of them near Travyon's memorial on March 24th. Are you saying they're still there?

80 Obdicut  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:03:47pm

re: #78 Killgore Trout

How would you recognize a member of the national socialist party walking around?

81 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:04:02pm

re: #78 Killgore Trout

It seems the Panthers at least piled into a car and drove down to make an appearance. As far as I can tell the Nazis just phoned the press from home.

The Nazis are pretty damn lazy. At least the NBPs put some work into it!

82 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:04:10pm

re: #78 Killgore Trout

It seems the Panthers at least piled into a car and drove down to make an appearance. As far as I can tell the Nazis just phoned the press from home.

The Orlando Fox News outlet 'interviewed' someone--don't know if it actually involved going out in the sun.

83 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:04:38pm

re: #80 Obdicut

How would you recognize a member of the national socialist party walking around?

They wear black "uniforms" and carry weapons, according to what they told the press.

84 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:05:05pm

re: #80 Obdicut

How would you recognize a member of the national socialist party walking around?

Also, goosestepping.

85 Obdicut  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:05:41pm

re: #83 Shvaughn

They wear black "uniforms" and carry weapons, according to what they told the press.

Heh. I wonder if they stand out.

And yeah, wasn't there a live interview with a dude down there in Florida?

86 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:05:57pm

re: #74 Gus

This wasn't simply a matter of firing Derbyshire. PZ Myers also didn't make an effort to criticize what he had written at Taki's and other places. He seems to be disturbed by the fact that they had fired him and I find that rather intriguing.

No, he's saying the rest of them are as bad, if not worse. Which is true.

87 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:06:00pm

re: #84 Shvaughn

Also, goosestepping.

And they get twitchy when they hear radial engines.

88 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:06:22pm

re: #85 Obdicut

Heh. I wonder if they stand out.

And yeah, wasn't there a live interview with a dude down there in Florida?

I haven't seen a live interview. The interview with the Fox affiliate was on the phone.

89 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:06:30pm

re: #82 Decatur Deb

The Orlando Fox News outlet 'interviewed' someone--don't know if it actually involved going out in the sun.

I just rechecked the Fox segment. It was a phone interview.

90 jaunte  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:09:15pm

re: #74 Gus

This wasn't simply a matter of firing Derbyshire. PZ Myers also didn't make an effort to criticize what he had written at Taki's and other places. He seems to be disturbed by the fact that they had fired him and I find that rather intriguing.

He may take the point of view that it's better to have the racists out in the open saying exactly what they think and attracting like minds.

91 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:11:08pm

re: #90 jaunte

He may take the point of view that it's better to have the racists out in the open saying exactly what they think and attracting like minds.

PZ's article only is a "defense" of Derbyshire in a sarcastic, ironic sense.

92 Obdicut  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:12:25pm

re: #89 Killgore Trout

The Nazis probably ran out of gas, just like in the Ardennes. Hit 'em with the Jabos.

93 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:17:16pm

re: #91 Shvaughn

Yep. PZ:

But he shouldn’t have been fired. He’s just been saying what the right wing has been thinking all along.

Charles:

For the record, I wish NRO hadn’t fired him. Now they can use that as cover for the constant race-baiting and masked racism that continues daily at the site.

94 Gus  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:39:15pm

re: #91 Shvaughn

PZ's article only is a "defense" of Derbyshire in a sarcastic, ironic sense.

Never mind. I misread.

95 b_sharp  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 4:34:45pm

re: #74 Gus

This wasn't simply a matter of firing Derbyshire. PZ Myers also didn't make an effort to criticize what he had written at Taki's and other places. He seems to be disturbed by the fact that they had fired him and I find that rather intriguing.

He didn't criticize it because he considers the wrongness obvious. PZ is as far from a racist as is possible. I doubt the firing disturbed him in any way, he sounds more curious why the change from support to the firing now, when they could have fired him, and others before.

96 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Apr 9, 2012 7:18:49pm

re: #80 Obdicut

How would you recognize a member of the national socialist party walking around?

Don't they keep their arms in that stupid salute at all times?


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