Laughable ‘Reverse Racism’ Wingnut Argument of the Day

Pointing out that Dana Loesch used an Islamophobic smear against Obama is an Islamophobic smear
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There’s so much craziness today in the right wing blogosphere that I’ve just been marveling at it while I drink coffee. One jaw-dropping post after another. Where to start?

OK, this is probably the most ludicrous of the bunch: Islamophobia, Too, at Media Matters.

Yes, mini-Breitbart Joel Pollak is now accusing Media Matters of being the real Islamophobes.

The background on this risible article: Dana Loesch recently recycled the years-old, long-debunked right wing smear that as a child in Indonesia, President Obama attended a “madrassa.” Media Matters called her on it.

Now Pollak is floating the ridiculous argument that Loesch was only pointing out that Obama attended a Muslim school. No smearing at all. Snort.

Media Matters hack Chelsea Rudman points out that “the American media have most commonly applied the word to schools that sprang up in South Asia after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and engage in anti-Western “political indoctrination.” And she fails, pointedly, to even hint that Loesch shares that view. In fact, her article inadvertently shows that Loesch believes the opposite.

In hyping the use of “madrassa” as some sort of smear in itself, Media Matters is, in fact, reinforcing an Islamophobic sterotype.

Rudman takes Loesch to task for pointing out the differences between the Quran and the New Testament—also correctly—as if noting those differences in the texts were, itself, off limits. Apparently, for Media Matters, there are some truths that the American people cannot handle—will it suggest banning the Quran as a remedy?

I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a hilariously twisted example of the wingnut “reverse racism” argument, except possibly the last time Dana Loesch falsely accused me of using a “racist slur.”

With right wing pretzel logic, Pollak is using the same sort of idiotic sophistry as Loesch, trying to claim that pointing out Dana Loesch’s Islamophobic smear is itself an example of an Islamophobic smear. Really, that’s the whole argument — there’s nothing more to it.

It’s childish, and I don’t mean that as an ad hominem. This is literally how children argue.

UPDATE at 4/26/12 12:32:54 pm

By the way, as for Pollak’s claim that Dana Loesch’s “madrassas” comment was not at all bigoted, here’s what Loesch wrote on her blog, in September 2010:

Obama says that “As Americans, we will not or ever be at war with Islam.”

How many thousands of people must be murdered by Islam before he stops saying such?

Where did this nation’s balls go?

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24 comments
1 darthstar  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:29:39am

You know this is going to make her tweet all day about your hair.

I don't get this Lana Doesch woman and her crush on you at all.

2 Kragar  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:30:25am

re: #1 darthstar (click me, I dare ya)

You know this is going to make her tweet all day about your hair.

She's been drinking water and crossing her leg for hours just waiting for this.

3 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:30:50am

re: #1 darthstar (click me, I dare ya)

You know this is going to make her tweet all day about your hair.

Huh, wondered what that outburst of loud screeching was just now. Was afraid my computer's hard drive was about to go.

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4 darthstar  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:31:14am

re: #3 Targetpractice

Huh, wondered what that outburst of loud screeching was just now. Was afraid my computer's hard drive was about to go.

//

Ooh...you said "hard drive"...sexist.

5 Kragar  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:32:34am

re: #4 darthstar (click me, I dare ya)

Ooh...you said "hard drive"...sexist.

Hard is a racist slur.

6 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:36:49am

Keep classy Bruins fans.

[Link: prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com...]

7 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:39:04am

re: #6 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Keep classy Bruins fans.

[Link: prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com...]

How disappointing and saddening to see from my fellow Bruins fans and Commonwealth residents. Sigh.

8 b_sharp  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:39:12am

There's that damn context crap again. Boy, this understanding speech sure is getting tough.

9 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:41:09am

The paragraph preceding the excerpt above:

Media Matters cannot, and does not, take issue with any of the above--but tries, laughably, to associate Loesch with a false Islamophobic stereotype, as part of its obsessive campaign to remove Loesch from the airwaves--and to drive conservative voices in general out of the American media, the surest sign that the left cannot handle democratic debate and therefore is trying to prevent it.

Wah! They're trying to shut us up!

10 b_sharp  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:42:37am

Do the Brietbartians need another lesson on the nuances of language?

11 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:43:05am

re: #9 wrenchwench

The paragraph preceding the excerpt above:

American conservatives have gotta be the biggest babies I've ever seen when it come to criticism. Criticism does NOT equal trying to silence conservative voices and get them taken off the air but I guess when you have a massive perseuction complex.....

12 b_sharp  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:43:26am

re: #9 wrenchwench

The paragraph preceding the excerpt above:

Poor wingnuts play the victim - again.

13 Kragar  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:44:12am

FRC warns "School libraries are one place where liberalism has a long shelf life."

In the library, what kids are really checking out is a new ideology. Hello, I'm Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council in Washington, D.C. School libraries are one place where liberalism has a long shelf life. For years, the American Library Association's been funneling inappropriate material to kids. And stopping them just got a whole lot harder. The Left wing's favorite billionaire, George Soros, is giving the ALA a half-million dollars a year to develop a "privacy curriculum" that teaches kids how to "bust through censor walls," "encrypt their communication," and "override filters." Even worse, librarians are told "to inform students that their book circulation data will never be shared with anyone, including their parents." Groups like Parents Against Bad Books in Schools are fighting back, but they need your help. "If enough parents become aware of how many objectionable books there are in [circulation] and work together in constantly challenging them, things can improve considerably," said a spokesman. Otherwise, what libraries will be lending isn't books--but a helping hand to the Left.

Thats right you primitive screwhead, libraries have information which you might disagree with. Information gathered from across the world over generations, much of it from people considered experts in their fields, and whose accomplishments modern civilization is built. Your open hostility to anything other than 2000 year old fairy tales didn't build what we have today, its a complete antithesis of progress. If you had one fucking brain cell functioning in your shit filled cranium, you might see that learning and being exposed to new ideas is something parents should encourage, not worrying that their child might learn something which would disrupt the smoke and mirrors craptastic world view that you think you've been blessed with.

Pigfuckers.

14 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:47:03am

re: #13 Kragar

FRC warns "School libraries are one place where liberalism has a long shelf life."


Thats right you primitive screwhead, libraries have information which you might disagree with. Information gathered from across the world over generations, much of it from people considered experts in their fields, and whose accomplishments modern civilization is built. Your open hostility to anything other than 2000 year old fairy tales didn't build what we have today, its a complete antithesis of progress. If you had one fucking brain cell functioning in your shit filled cranium, you might see that learning and being exposed to new ideas is something parents should encourage, not worrying that their child might learn something which would disrupt the smoke and mirrors craptastic world view that you think you've been blessed with.

Pigfuckers.

The goal is control. They don't care beyond that.

15 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:47:12am

re: #13 Kragar

FRC warns "School libraries are one place where liberalism has a long shelf life."

Thats right you primitive screwhead, libraries have information which you might disagree with. Information gathered from across the world over generations, much of it from people considered experts in their fields, and whose accomplishments modern civilization is built. Your open hostility to anything other than 2000 year old fairy tales didn't build what we have today, its a complete antithesis of progress. If you had one fucking brain cell functioning in your shit filled cranium, you might see that learning and being exposed to new ideas is something parents should encourage, not worrying that their child might learn something which would disrupt the smoke and mirrors craptastic world view that you think you've been blessed with.

Pigfuckers.

Libraries, fucking libraries AFA. I was part of a group in high school called Freedom to Read that was very opposed to PABBIS. Unfortunately many of my classmates didn't seem to care. If it had been about movies, music, or video games.

16 b_sharp  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:47:22am

re: #13 Kragar

FRC warns "School libraries are one place where liberalism has a long shelf life."

Thats right you primitive screwhead, libraries have information which you might disagree with. Information gathered from across the world over generations, much of it from people considered experts in their fields, and whose accomplishments modern civilization is built. Your open hostility to anything other than 2000 year old fairy tales didn't build what we have today, its a complete antithesis of progress. If you had one fucking brain cell functioning in your shit filled cranium, you might see that learning and being exposed to new ideas is something parents should encourage, not worrying that their child might learn something which would disrupt the smoke and mirrors craptastic world view that you think you've been blessed with.

Pigfuckers.

Stop being such a gentle soul, tell them how you really feel.

17 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:48:20am

The AFA are fascists pure and simple. They care about control and nothing else.

18 Kragar  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:52:07am

Logic Linked to Religious Disbelief, Study Implies

A rare and controversial study merging science and faith suggests that analytic thinking, a process that favors reason over intuition, promotes religious disbelief.

Canadian researchers used math puzzles and “priming,” a technique that plants subtle suggestions in pictures and text, to persuade more than 650 believers and non-believers to think analytically. They then used surveys to probe religious beliefs, from faith in God to the power of prayer.

“If you can get people to engage in analytic thinking, whether it’s by looking at pictures or showing them difficult-to-read text, analytic thinking promotes religious disbelief,” said Will Gervais, a PhD student in psychology at the University of British Columbia and lead author of the study published today in the journal Science. “This indicates that analytic thinking is one of many factors affecting people’s religious beliefs.”

19 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:54:14am

re: #13 Kragar

FRC warns "School libraries are one place where liberalism has a long shelf life."

Thats right you primitive screwhead, libraries have information which you might disagree with. Information gathered from across the world over generations, much of it from people considered experts in their fields, and whose accomplishments modern civilization is built. Your open hostility to anything other than 2000 year old fairy tales didn't build what we have today, its a complete antithesis of progress. If you had one fucking brain cell functioning in your shit filled cranium, you might see that learning and being exposed to new ideas is something parents should encourage, not worrying that their child might learn something which would disrupt the smoke and mirrors craptastic world view that you think you've been blessed with.

Pigfuckers.

Come now, Kragar, they're just following in the footsteps of a fine tradition of protecting the people from subversive thought.

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20 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 11:57:53am

re: #19 Targetpractice

Come now, Kragar, they're just following in the footsteps of a fine tradition of protecting the people from subversive thought.

///

I have no doubt that the AFA would have those if they ever got their way. Not to violate Godwin but they have a serious hostility to different perspectives. It's fortunate that they're mostly pandered to rather than enabled.

21 What, me worry?  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 12:00:33pm
In hyping the use of “madrassa” as some sort of smear in itself, Media Matters is, in fact, reinforcing an Islamophobic sterotype.

You find this kind of "I'm rubber, you're glue" schoolyard arguing all of the Yahoo comments. Every person who calls racism is the true racist for being able to see the racism in the first place. Of course, we know that Yahoo is the cesspool of all internet commentary, but it's good to know they have company.

22 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 12:05:00pm

re: #13 Kragar

If you had one fucking brain cell functioning in your shit filled cranium, you might see that learning and being exposed to new ideas is something parents should encourage, not worrying that their child might learn something which would disrupt the smoke and mirrors craptastic world view that you think you've been blessed with.

If they aren't exposed to new ideas, they might be exposed to old germs.

Arizona infant dies of whooping cough

The Associated Press | Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:55 am | Comments

PHOENIX — The death of a Maricopa County infant from whooping cough is prompting health officials to urge residents to make sure they’re vaccinated.

The highly contagious respiratory infection formally called pertussis can be fatal to the very young but is preventable by getting an immunization called Tdap.

Infants can’t get a shot until they’re two months old and aren’t fully protected until getting a third dose at 6 months, so mothers and others in the home are being urged to make sure they’re vaccinated. The infant who died wasn’t old enough to be immunized and likely was infected by an adult.

Infants commonly get pertussis from an infected family member or caregiver.

Read more: [Link: azstarnet.com...]

23 gummitch  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 12:27:01pm
To take a recent example: Last winter, New York City announced plans for a new Arabic-language public secondary school in Brooklyn. An aggressive campaign against the school soon sprang up, despite the uncontroversial presence of Chinese, Russian, Spanish and other dual-language schools in the city. Opponents and local newspaper columnists began branding the (as yet unopened) school a “jihad recruiting center” and a “madrassa” and demanding it be closed. For Arabic speakers, the very title of the “Stop the Madrassa” campaign — now national in scope — is bound to have an uncomfortable ring. Madrassa is the Arabic word for “school”; it could not be more wholesome. But as the school’s opponents know, in this country it has taken on a far more sinister valence, thanks to press reports about religious schools in Pakistan that are said to teach Taliban-style militancy. The school’s principal was later replaced after a fracas over another Arabic word, intifada, that has taken on a meaning here entirely different from the one it has among Arabs.

[Link: tinyurl.com...]

RWNJs like to pretend that the way they use a word, regardless of context, is always harmless while the reverse is true for liberals. Deliberately using a loaded term and then pretending you didn't is standard procedure.

24 Mich-again  Thu, Apr 26, 2012 1:33:15pm
It’s childish, and I don’t mean that as an ad hominem. This is literally how children argue.

I know what YOU are, but what am I?


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