Overnight Video: Earthereal

I know so many people who absolutely love Joel Osteen. Some of the friends I have in Houston attend his church, and many have read his books. They just think he's great.

I've read a few of his books. They're interesting to me, at least in terms of seeing what people are connecting with religiously. It's definitely more self-help/Law of Attraction type stuff with religion thrown in than anything else. At least IMO.

freetoken Fri, Apr 27, 2012 9:57:44pm

re: #3 Lidane

You tell people "God" is on their side, of course they'll love you.

Odd thing about humans - tell people that "God" doesn't like them and is going to judge them - and they still will send you money.

We humans are easily manipulated.

freetoken Fri, Apr 27, 2012 9:58:30pm

The one thing you will rarely hear is "God doesn't give a damn either way".

CriticalDragon1177 Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:01:09pm

Charles Johnson

Nice except the quality wasn't perfect, still, I enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing the video.

Big Joe Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:05:37pm

re: #5 freetoken

The one thing you will rarely hear is "God doesn't give a damn either way".

That a tenet of my religion.

Big Joe Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:06:27pm

God is a honey badger.

Mich-again Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:07:16pm

The night shots showing what the city lights look like from space point out that just maybe 7 billion people really can affect a planet's climate system. The one excuse you always hear from deniers.. Earth doesn't even notice we're here.

Mich-again Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:08:52pm

re: #5 freetoken

The one thing you will rarely hear is "God doesn't give a damn either way".

If there is a God, it doesn't need anyone to represent him in the courts to make sure his rights aren't trampled on.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:09:47pm

re: #1 freetoken

Future shock:

Will Gattaca Come True?

Should we test for fetal problems? Should insurance companies cover it?

What are the options?

CriticalDragon1177 Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:11:13pm

Charles Johnson

By the way, I was just interviewed by Loon Watch a few days ago. Like you I once made the mistake of supporting the "counter Jihad," and I talk about what led me out of that nightmare. So for those reasons, I thought you might enjoy this, assuming you have not already seen it.

A Journey Out of Islamophobic Darkness

Also, just to let you know, I suggested they interview you as well, however that part didn't make it into the interview. But if you scroll down and read the comments, we still talk about that. You're still mentioned in the interview, however.

Do you think you would like to be interviewed by Loon Watch, if you got the offer?

Oh, one more thing, there's a mistake I made. They fixed it over at Loon Watch, but they haven't fixed it over at Spencer Watch, and Islamophobia today, when they mirrored it there.

freetoken Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:15:20pm

re: #11 SanFranciscoZionist

What are the options?

Well, one can always ignore the available option of testing, or want it but not be able to afford it.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:20:44pm

re: #13 freetoken

Well, one can always ignore the available option of testing, or want it but not be able to afford it.

I don't think that knowing if your child has a serious medical condition should be considered a luxury. That's my bottom line.

freetoken Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:27:01pm

re: #14 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't think that knowing if your child has a serious medical condition should be considered a luxury. That's my bottom line.

Ayn Rand would not approve of your socialism.

freetoken Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:28:18pm

re: #14 SanFranciscoZionist

Seriously, one can only imagine the uproar from the religious right if the Obama administration came out with the goal of having pre-natal testing available to all women, and requiring coverage of it by every health insurance company.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:31:55pm

re: #15 freetoken

Ayn Rand would not approve of your socialism.

Ayn Rand wouldn't approve of much about me, but the feeling's mutual.

Mich-again Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:32:56pm

I flew over the US from LA to Detroit today in the daylight, and seeing large cities in the middle of the desert with no lakes, rivers, or greenery nearby in the West particularly Arizona made me think these might just be the dumbest of the many hopeless long-term undertakings we've attempted as a Country.

How long till the desert cities are reduced to ghost towns?

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:33:06pm

re: #16 freetoken

Seriously, one can only imagine the uproar from the religious right if the Obama administration came out with the goal of having pre-natal testing available to all women, and requiring coverage of it by every health insurance company.

Lots is already available, of course, regardless of how the Rick Santorums of the world feel about it.

But yes, they'd scream. But they scream about everything.

austin_blue Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:33:29pm

re: #11 SanFranciscoZionist

What are the options?

Well, I, for one, really dislike people with brown eyes.

austin_blue Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:37:04pm

re: #18 Mich-again

I flew over the US from LA to Detroit today in the daylight, and seeing large cities in the middle of the desert with no lakes, rivers, or greenery nearby in the West particularly Arizona made me think these might just be the dumbest of the many hopeless long-term undertakings we've attempted as a Country.

How long till the desert cities are reduced to ghost towns?

Whiskey's for drinkin', water's for fightin'.

Midland/Odessa may be depopulated within ten years. So screwed by drought.

Kragar Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:41:38pm

The law of unintended consequences leaves me leery of excessive tampering with human genetics. Looking at the immunity flow for various diseases over history easily prove that what can be considered a flaw at one point in history can become a life saver generations later.

On the flip side, there are certain aberrations which can lead to debilitating conditions which a parent should be able to know about before bringing a child into the world.

austin_blue Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:48:51pm

re: #19 SanFranciscoZionist

Lots is already available, of course, regardless of how the Rick Santorums of the world feel about it.

But yes, they'd scream. But they scream about everything.

Hey, if Obama walked across the Potomac River, the Gaspers would claim that "He's too lazy to swim!"

sagehen Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:49:22pm

re: #22 Kragar

The law of unintended consequences leaves me leery of excessive tampering with human genetics. Looking at the immunity flow for various diseases over history easily prove that what can be considered a flaw at one point in history can become a life saver generations later.

On the flip side, there are certain aberrations which can lead to debilitating conditions which a parent should be able to know about before bringing a child into the world.

If I could know by 7 weeks that my fetus has a condition that's not going to become apparent until she's a toddler, and then she'll suffer for years and die by age five... I'd probably want to save my family the grief by terminating before my existing kids even know there's a sibling on the way. And then try again.

Which is exactly what the anti-abortion folks are worried about, that's why they oppose this kind of testing.

Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:53:54pm

If there is a family history --most definitely pre-natal testing should be covered by insurance.

Now, I think some is already --no?

Amnio is required for high-risk pregnancies anyway, isn't it?

Spina bifida comes to mind.

Yes, I know more than one women who had testing done and the results made a huge difference.

I, for one, do not believe that G-d wants children to be born and suffer.

Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:55:59pm

What the anti-abortion groups seem to have issues with is 1) individual choice -because we can't presume to play G-d, and 2) Government mandated action - because we can't be like the Communists.

The only choices we have, in their eyes, seems to be to get married and have sex, or don't get married and go to hell for having sex.

austin_blue Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:04:31pm

re: #22 Kragar

The law of unintended consequences leaves me leery of excessive tampering with human genetics. Looking at the immunity flow for various diseases over history easily prove that what can be considered a flaw at one point in history can become a life saver generations later.

On the flip side, there are certain aberrations which can lead to debilitating conditions which a parent should be able to know about before bringing a child into the world.

For lethal defects, such as anencephaly, where the neural tube never closes and the chance of death is 75% at birth and 100% after days three post-partum, I don't think there is any question. Down Syndrome is another thing. I've got friends who have have high-function and low-function kids with Down's. That's a real roll of the dice.

austin_blue Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:07:36pm

re: #26 ggt

What the anti-abortion groups seem to have issues with is 1) individual choice -because we can't presume to play G-d, and 2) Government mandated action - because we can't be like the Communists.

The only choices we have, in their eyes, seems to be to get married and have sex, or don't get married and go to hell for having sex.

How do the Rabbi's weigh in on this issue? My understanding is that until quickening, termination is a legal (?right term?) option under Torah.

Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:10:43pm

re: #23 austin_blue

Hey, if Obama walked across the Potomac River, the Gaspers would claim that "He's too lazy to swim!"

True, that's politics. Giving the other side any credit is seen as self-defeating.

Kragar Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:21:00pm

I know with my wife, we had amniocentesis done both time. First time was covered by being a military dependent, second time was part of our regular health care. We didn't have to pay out of pocket either time.

Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:21:54pm

Ok, well, I opened a storefront --following darthstar's (?) lead.

Made me feel better, voicing one's opinion true product marketing --What an American Idea!

freetoken Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:23:55pm

re: #31 ggt

Now just add some Je$u$ branding and you'll be set!

Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:24:10pm

re: #31 ggt

Ok, well, I opened a storefront --following darthstar's (?) lead.

Made me feel better, voicing one's opinion true product marketing --What an American Idea!

I have another idea, but I have to find some of my old artwork first --scan and photoshop. maybe one design a week.

Fun even if it proves not to be profitable.

Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:24:13pm

re: #31 ggt

Ok, well, I opened a storefront --following darthstar's (?) lead.

Made me feel better, voicing one's opinion true product marketing --What an American Idea!

I first read that as "I opened a stormfront" and thought "Wait, wut?"

Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:25:24pm

re: #32 freetoken

Now just add some Je$u$ branding and you'll be set!

Well, there are some pretty specific guidelines for offensive material. Anything I post with Jesus in it would probably offend most people, as I have an usual sense of humor.

I really like the Zombie Jesus concept, but I"m sure it's already taken.

Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:25:38pm

re: #34 Assemble!

I first read that as "I opened a stormfront" and thought "Wait, wut?"

If I could . . .

freetoken Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:26:27pm

Today's look at Our America comes North Carolina:

Beyond science

As Darwin’s theory has evolved over the years, it has become the officially sanctioned creation story of the western world, almost universally affirmed by the academy and successfully defended against heresy. Teachers who express doubts are subject to re-education or even dismissal in extreme cases, while ordinary folks are ridiculed as anti-science (a bad thing) or as closet Christian fundamentalists (a very bad thing.)

Of course, if everything has a natural explanation, then something like Darwin’s theory must be true and science would be the best purveyor of all truth. However, that everything has a natural explanation has never been established. It is, therefore, an assumption, a belief, even, one might say, a faith. [sigh...]

We stand in awe and appreciation of scientific achievements and hope that they continue apace. Creationism is not science and is justifiably ruled out of the science curriculum. But the more we learn about biology the more scientific questions arise.

Those questions are not necessarily weaknesses of the theory nor are they confirmations. Everyone should get along just fine as long as the curriculum sticks to what is known and what scientists think it means. The problem comes when the academy claims that Darwin’s answer is the only possible answer. That is more than science knows.

Virgil Early

Smithfield

Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:27:46pm

re: #37 freetoken

Today's look at Our America comes North Carolina:

Beyond science

I don't think I really understand what he is saying . . .

help me out here.

freetoken Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:31:01pm

re: #38 ggt

It's just the old secularism-is-a-religion talking point that fundamentalist apologists like to make.

freetoken Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:47:22pm

SoundCloud

Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:47:29pm

O.O

A Chinese man was reportedly killed last week when a woman squeezed his testicles until he collapsed during a fight over a parking space.

Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:50:08pm

re: #41 Assemble!

O.O

A Chinese man was reportedly killed last week when a woman squeezed his testicles until he collapsed during a fight over a parking space.

So, we can call her a 'ball-buster', right?

Kragar Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:51:46pm

Some balls are held for charity or some for fancy dress.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:53:46pm

re: #40 freetoken

Reading Carrier's new response to Ehrman, and he sure makes it seem that Ehrman was less than honest in some instances.

Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:57:41pm

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

So, we can call her a 'ball-buster', right?

Not to her face!

Mocking Jay Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:00:52am

re: #43 Kragar

Some balls are held for charity or some for fancy dress.

It's my belief that my big balls should be held every night.

Mocking Jay Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:01:54am

I don't always dance with the dead in my dreams...

Image: 527992_10150676892465044_109273845043_9643747_1018602167_n.jpg

Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:02:35am

re: #47 Assemble!

I don't always dance with the dead in my dreams...

Image: 527992_10150676892465044_109273845043_9643747_1018602167_n.jpg

Yikes.

good night, all.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:03:48am

re: #47 Assemble!

Ahh dead skin mask

Mocking Jay Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:07:25am

re: #49 windupbird is in the gravity well

Ahh dead skin mask

Mr. Gaines?

Kragar Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:11:41am

re: #50 Assemble!

Mr. Gaines?

Gein, as in Ed Gein.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:12:32am

re: #12 CriticalDragon1177

CD, as I discovered some time ago, LoonWatch is a pretty problematic resource, what with it's hang-up on "Zionism" and its widespread usage of cartoons by the execrable Latuff.

Mocking Jay Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:13:13am

re: #51 Kragar

Gein, as in Ed Gein.

That was a test...

Kragar Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:19:11am

re: #53 Assemble!

That was a test...

Well played, comrade Chikatilo, well played.

freetoken Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:25:54am

re: #44 I'm a Mavrik!

Reading Carrier's new response to Ehrman, and he sure makes it seem that Ehrman was less than honest in some instances.

I've not checked in with Carrier's blog for a couple of days, or any others' of the principals in the matter. I put all my notes into one Page and it ran over the 35000 character limit so I'm not sure how to proceed.

I did get via inter-library loan the latest English translation of Schweitzer's last version of his masterpiece, as well as the Cavaleri book (which is widely recommended on the topic.) I aim to show that Ehrman really hasn't added much to the discussion since Schweitzer. I had really hoped that Ehrman would have seriously tackled the developments of the last half of the 20th century, from the DSS to the Talpiot tomb (and similar marginal claims), to present a more circumscribed definition of the "historical Jesus".

My claim - that a great deal of the political/social harangue from the corners of Americana with which we deal here is evidence of the trauma involved in the de-Christianization of America - is bolstered by the unwillingness of so many Americans to even admit that the whole question of the historicity of "Jesus" (not to be confused with the Je$u$ of American capitalism) is a valid one, or that it even exists.

Take for example the continuing hand-wringing over evolution, and that many American Christians are fretting over the high visibility being given to Francis Collins and Biologos; e.g. see, Evangelicals discussing evolution in the blogosphere as just one example of what pops up everyday on the internet.

Then too are the wanna-bes, such as the trouble maker Robert Spencer - for example he has found another fan from an Ayn-worshipper at Review: Did Muhammad Exist? An Inquiry into Islam’s Obscure Origins. This is sort of a perverse pile-on effect that happens in our society as we try to avert our gaze from the real questions, ones we don't want to ask ourselves.

freetoken Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:37:25am

One thought that ran through my mind yesterday morning was how rarely any of these discussions (whether by atheists or believers, historicists or mythicists) discuss the centrality of the destruction of Jerusalem and for practical purposes Iron age Judaism by the Romans, and that "Christianity" as we know it would not have come about without that historical event.

In one sense, "Christianity" can be seen as a sort of collective PTSD by a defeated and displaced Jewish minority (that is, a minority of Jews) which struggled to make sense of what happened circa AD 70. By interpreting the event as a fulfilled prophecy, the early "Christians" laid the foundation for what today are considered the fundamentals of the faith.

This lack of appreciation (by so many in and outside of the Church) of the apocalyptic nature of Jesus' alleged teachings, and of the rest of the NT books and Christianity itself, is a key element in the thesis of Schweitzer (which is reiterated by Ehrman.)

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:39:52am

re: #41 Assemble!

O.O

A Chinese man was reportedly killed last week when a woman squeezed his testicles until he collapsed during a fight over a parking space.

So, he never saw Kathy (Cathy?) Bates in Fried Green Tomatoes?

Or Tyler Perry's Madea?

freetoken Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:42:21am

This is related, btw, to one of my complaints against so many mythicists - they seem to ignore 1st century history in Palestine and how much has been learnt about the people and that era.

Trying to make Jesus only a Hellenic (or Mithraic) myth, no matter how Hellenized the NT or even Palestine itself was in the 1st century, is to totally gloss over what really happened and what was really important at that time in that area.

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:45:51am

re: #58 freetoken

This is related, btw, to one of my complaints against so many mythicists - they seem to ignore 1st century history in Palestine and how much has been learnt about the people and that era.

Trying to make Jesus only a Hellenic (or Mithraic) myth, no matter how Hellenized the NT or even Palestine itself was in the 1st century, is to totally gloss over what really happened and what was really important at that time in that area.

I always thought the death of Jesus was more of a political execution than a religious one and the response to create a new religion was also political. Much like Martin Luther and his split from Rome.

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:47:28am

Well I have another design ready, but I can't get it to upload. First one uploaded no problem.

That's what I get for including layers!

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:50:53am

re: #59 ggt

I always thought the death of Jesus was more of a political execution than a religious one

The lack of primary sources will leave this issue largely in the dark. We only have biased accounts...

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:51:32am

re: #60 ggt

That's what I get for including layers!

So it was you who drew that birth certificate for Obama! ///

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:52:04am

OK, so my file is too large, by like 4x --how do I make it smaller from 28 to 7 mb?

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:52:27am

re: #63 ggt

Zipping doesn't help?

CriticalDragon1177 Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:52:38am

re: #52 I'm a Mavrik!

CD, as I discovered some time ago, LoonWatch is a pretty problematic resource, what with it's hang-up on "Zionism" and its widespread usage of cartoons by the execrable Latuff.

I'm a Mavrik!

If you had any issues with what Garibaldi posted there, perhaps thinking he meant anyone who considered Israelis right to exist, to be responsible for anti Muslim bigotry, you should read the third comment down, where he clarifies his position,

It makes you in the mainstream of Americans and Muslims who do not look to destroy Israel but to recognize an independent Palestine.

But this article does not debate that. It exposes the connection between radical Zionists who are pro-occupation, and the anti-Muslim bigots who are being funded by them.

In addition, they don't consider the ADL a hate group or an Islamophobic organization, otherwise they would have told me so, when I mentioned them in my list anti bigotry websites. Plus on one or two occasions some of the people leaving comments over there, linked to anti semetic websites, and I pointed out to the people running Loon Watch that those websites were antisemitic and they removed the links. Someone even linked to a site that tried to fight anti Muslim bigotry with anti Jewish bigotry. When I pointed out to them, that the person leaving the comment had done that, they were not happy.

Also, who is Latuff? I've never heard of him.

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:54:54am

re: #64 I'm a Mavrik!

Zipping doesn't help?

Trying as a JPG although PSD is preferred, they said for large files use JPG

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Apr 28, 2012 12:57:44am

“The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own”.

-Frank Zappa

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 1:05:34am

re: #65 CriticalDragon1177

CD, if he only meant radical Zionism, whatever it may be, or right-wing Zionism, he should have written so. Maybe he's just a poor writer, indeed, but that's still a pretty weird thing to read on an "anti-loon" site.

Latuff was a participant in the Iranian Holocaust cartoon hatefest. While I don't have evidence that he's a denier, he sure likes to rub shoulders with various haters and to draw cartoons comparing Israel to Nazis.

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 1:09:10am

ah, still doesn't like my design, probably too detailed. Will have to simplify.

Kragar Sat, Apr 28, 2012 1:09:25am

re: #67 windupbird is in the gravity well

“The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own”.

-Frank Zappa

I thought haircuts were involved as well.

freetoken Sat, Apr 28, 2012 1:17:53am

re: #70 Kragar

Speaking of haircuts...

Elvis, in a stereotypical period piece full of musical smarm:

SoundCloud

researchok Sat, Apr 28, 2012 1:21:15am

Morning, all

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 1:26:04am

Well, here it is. I still have to mess with it, it is too small, but I'm too tired tonite.

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 1:26:52am

re: #70 Kragar

I thought haircuts were involved as well.

No, that only involves a certain type of derivative transaction. Young Turks on Wall Street don't even understand it.

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 1:30:09am

re: #73 ggt

Well, here it is. I still have to mess with it, it is too small, but I'm too tired tonite.

I don't know why I can't get it to upload larger --oh ohh I may know . . .

freetoken Sat, Apr 28, 2012 1:46:45am

Chinese increased hunger for meat will show up at your grocery store:

Corn Prices Surge on Export Sales

Corn prices jumped 4.6% after the federal government reported the sixth-largest export sale ever for the grain, which analysts believe is headed for China.

The sale, the latest indication of the Chinese appetite for U.S. corn, coincided with analysts' expectations in recent weeks that China would make a large purchase from the U.S. to help replenish its reserves. China's state-owned grain-stockpiling enterprise, China Grain Reserves Corp., said in March that it would continue to import corn this year if it found a need or if doing so would be profitable.

[...]

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 1:52:47am

re: #76 freetoken

Chinese increased hunger for meat will show up at your grocery store:

Corn Prices Surge on Export Sales

Yep, I've been hearing about corn for a few years now --food or fuel, seems we can't have it for both and enjoy the prices we like.

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 2:02:21am

Yes, what everyone needs!

If you agree, post on your fb and twitter!

portions of all proceeds to go my favorite charity du jour, the local battered women's shelter.

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 2:05:10am

Now, we will have to move-on to Brat Puppy Products!

freetoken Sat, Apr 28, 2012 2:06:23am

re: #78 ggt

tweeted

Women's clothing, which is not approved by the GOP: cafepress.com/whatsonmymind1…

— free token (@freetoken) April 28, 2012

Kragar Sat, Apr 28, 2012 2:06:36am

Thought for the evening;

Adele and Eminem should date for 6-8 months so we can get a new break up album from each of them.

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 2:09:13am

re: #80 freetoken

tweeted

[Embedded content]

You are awesome --

It was so much fun. I don't care if anything sells. Makes me feel better getting it out there.

Kragar Sat, Apr 28, 2012 2:10:57am

In other news, Kanye West has announced he is going to open a new chain of breakfast restaurants called "Omelette you finish."

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 2:19:13am

Nytol --or Dayquil.

Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Apr 28, 2012 3:07:54am

Good Morning Honcos!

I'm leaving on my school trip to Hong Kong, Ho Chi Min City and Beijing today, so I'll be off the grid for about two weeks.

I know it will be hard, but try to carry on without me.
//

Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 28, 2012 3:45:53am

re: #85 Darth Vader Gargoyle

Good Morning Honcos!

I'm leaving on my school trip to Hong Kong, Ho Chi Min City and Beijing today, so I'll be off the grid for about two weeks.

I know it will be hard, but try to carry on without me.
//

Have a good trip. If you plan to defect, plz make sure your taxes are paid.

Kragar Sat, Apr 28, 2012 3:48:39am

Suffer from Extreme Tinnitus? You're not alone.

Youtube Video

Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Apr 28, 2012 3:50:39am

re: #86 Decatur Deb

Have a good trip. If you plan to defect, plz make sure your taxes are paid.

I'm in the military, we don't have to pay taxes right?
//

Kragar Sat, Apr 28, 2012 3:51:20am

re: #88 Darth Vader Gargoyle

I'm in the military, we don't have to pay taxes right?
//

Nope, you just leach off the government, living the sweet life.
/

Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 28, 2012 3:52:20am

re: #88 Darth Vader Gargoyle

I'm in the military, we don't have to pay taxes right?
//

Your taxes should keep you in JP8 'till at least the 4th of each January.

Obdicut Sat, Apr 28, 2012 3:56:54am

Probably only funny if you've played Skyrim:

Youtube Video

Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sat, Apr 28, 2012 4:32:29am

re: #91 Obdicut

Probably only funny if you've played Skyrim:

[Embedded content]

Cute.

Had a link somewhere to a video of the My Little Pony mod to Skyrim. Pinky Pie going to town. Fear the pony.

PhillyPretzel Sat, Apr 28, 2012 5:38:45am

re: #85 Darth Vader Gargoyle

Enjoy your trip.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 5:56:51am

Youtube Video

Shropshire_Slasher Sat, Apr 28, 2012 6:00:12am

I posted this story when this young man was arrested:
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]
This is no way an attack on President Clinton.
Shitty story all the way around.

Gus Sat, Apr 28, 2012 6:01:06am

Youtube Video

Shropshire_Slasher Sat, Apr 28, 2012 6:02:00am

re: #47 Assemble!

SLAYER!!!!!!
I am going to see them again in August

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 6:05:41am

re: #91 Obdicut

I would sooo play this version :P

Eventual Carrion Sat, Apr 28, 2012 6:13:00am

re: #37 freetoken

Today's look at Our America comes North Carolina:

Beyond science

As Darwin’s theory has evolved over the years, it has become the officially sanctioned creation story of the western world, almost universally affirmed by the academy and successfully defended against heresy. Teachers who express doubts are subject to re-education or even dismissal in extreme cases, while ordinary folks are ridiculed as anti-science (a bad thing) or as closet Christian fundamentalists (a very bad thing.)
[snip]

What did Darwin have to say about creation? His theory talks heavily about animal diversity and how they got there, but I really don't remember what he had to say about the actual creation part of the equation. Seems that what I could find of his beliefs is that he might fit in with the intelligent design people somewhat. But his idea of what happened after is what has the fundies hating on him.

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 6:17:23am

re: #99 RayFerd

Start with this: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

When he was an agnostic he didn't believe in creation (by def), but I suppose he didn't think evolution to be incompatible with it either. Before that he could probably be called a theistic evolutionist.

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 7:06:46am

The thread is dead, baby. The thread is dead.

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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Apr 28, 2012 7:13:21am

I'm awake!

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William of Orange Sat, Apr 28, 2012 7:39:21am

Awkward!

This is a killer!

"Paging Dr. Jon Stewart, paging Dr. Jon Stewart.
There's comedy in the emergency room!"

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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 28, 2012 7:53:28am

re: #12 CriticalDragon1177

Charles Johnson

By the way, I was just interviewed by Loon Watch a few days ago. Like you I once made the mistake of supporting the "counter Jihad," and I talk about what led me out of that nightmare. So for those reasons, I thought you might enjoy this, assuming you have not already seen it.

A Journey Out of Islamophobic Darkness

Also, just to let you know, I suggested they interview you as well, however that part didn't make it into the interview. But if you scroll down and read the comments, we still talk about that. You're still mentioned in the interview, however.

Do you think you would like to be interviewed by Loon Watch, if you got the offer?

Oh, one more thing, there's a mistake I made. They fixed it over at Loon Watch, but they haven't fixed it over at Spencer Watch, and Islamophobia today, when they mirrored it there.

Interesting article and kudos to you for being so open. My journey has been similar to yours so I can relate. However, I'm very cautious about repeating the same mistakes and listening to anti-islamophia activists. Not all of them are nice people. The EDL isn't really that much worse than the black block idiots who wgow up to fight with them. I found your article interesting enough that I started reading the comments and found this one 3-4 comments down...

It’s just as important that you see what is motivating Spencer (paid by Zionists), Geller and the ‘whole counter jihad’ movement. Ulitimately, they do have an aim, that is to lessen Muslim influence because they feel Islam stands in their way of the Likud agenda.

It’s the rabid far right Zionism, where they conflate AMerica’s interests as being the same as Likud.

Note how Geert Wilders, a one man politician wasn’t funded by Dutch, but by American neo cons, Daniel Pipes, a Jewish Likudnik and he has been to Israel over 40 times.

They want to expand territory, but they cannot with a world that won’t allow it, so they need a threat to exploit to convince the world otherwise.

Anti-Jewish conspiracy theories are still just as hateful as what Geller and Spencer write about and that's the sort of thing that makes me suspicious of people's motives. Replacing one crazy hatred with another one isn't a good idea.
Again, congratulations on the great interview and thanks for sharing.

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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 28, 2012 7:53:57am

Damn, it's quiet in here.

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 7:56:10am

re: #104 Killgore Trout

#52

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darthstar Sat, Apr 28, 2012 7:57:02am

re: #103 William of Orange

Awkward!

This is a killer!

"Paging Dr. Jon Stewart, paging Dr. Jon Stewart.
There's comedy in the emergency room!"

The best thing that could happen would be a couple of incidents (nobody getting killed), like a teabagger or three or four of them accidentally shooting himself/themselves in the foot on the convention floor...by the time Romney showed up, half the crowd would be staying away out of safety concerns.

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darthstar Sat, Apr 28, 2012 8:03:04am

re: #103 William of Orange

I will give up my supersoaker when they pry it from my cold, wet fingers.

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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 28, 2012 8:11:08am

re: #106 I'm a Mavrik!

#52

Ah, I continued reading the comments to see what the discussion was like. He later quotes and agreed with the zionist conspiracy.

You Wrote,
———————————————————————-
It’s just as important that you see what is motivating Spencer (paid by Zionists), Geller and the ‘whole counter jihad’ movement. Ulitimately, they do have an aim, that is to lessen Muslim influence because they feel Islam stands in their way of the Likud agenda.

It’s the rabid far right Zionism, where they conflate AMerica’s interests as being the same as Likud.

Note how Geert Wilders, a one man politician wasn’t funded by Dutch, but by American neo cons, Daniel Pipes, a Jewish Likudnik and he has been to Israel over 40 times.

They want to expand territory, but they cannot with a world that won’t allow it, so they need a threat to exploit to convince the world otherwise.
———————————————————————-

I agree. People need to understand the true nature of the “counter jihad” movement. Its main aim is not what they say they it is and those that are a part of it, who think they really are defending freedom are delusional and paranoid, like I was. Not to mention the fact that they are actually helping people who want to take away freedom.

I think I'll retract my kudos for the interview. He's just swapped one hate for another. Not much of an improvement.

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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 28, 2012 8:23:24am

re: #76 freetoken

Chinese increased hunger for meat will show up at your grocery store:

Corn Prices Surge on Export Sales

Decent news here in Illinois, though. Only Iowa grows more corn than we do.

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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 28, 2012 8:30:31am

re: #107 darthstar (click me, I dare ya)

The best thing that could happen would be a couple of incidents (nobody getting killed), like a teabagger or three or four of them accidentally shooting himself/themselves in the foot on the convention floor...by the time Romney showed up, half the crowd would be staying away out of safety concerns.

Not gonna happen. the Secret Service will not allow guns inside the center and their authority supersedes the state.

And the rule against local governments passing firearms laws is not 'absurd' (as the New York Times says). In fact, a similar such law in Pennsylvania went all the way to the Supreme Court, where it was upheld. The general principal is that in areas where federal power is not in play the controlling authority is the government of the individual state. Those powers held by municipal governments are held with the state's permission and the state may revoke them if it so chooses.

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William of Orange Sat, Apr 28, 2012 8:52:04am

re: #108 darthstar (click me, I dare ya)

I will give up my supersoaker when they pry it from my cold, wet fingers.

I'm quite surprised that supersoakers are not covered by the National Rifle Association.

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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:06:27am

Norwegian gets prison term for wrong turn in Arizona

WINSLOW, Ariz. (AP) — A Norwegian man who took a wrong turn onto a one-way street in an Arizona town and drove through a street festival has been sentenced to more than seven years in state prison.

John Kristoffer Larsgard, 33, was convicted of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and six other charges in Navajo County last month. A reporter for Norway's largest paper, VG, wrote about the trial in March, drawing international attention.

Larsgard's lawyer said the case is a miscarriage of justice involving a confused driver. The county prosecutor said Larsgard turned his car into a weapon, hitting one woman and nearly running over several other people.

Larsgard and his mother, Liv Larsgard, of Oslo, were driving across the U.S. when they had car trouble in Winslow, Ariz., last September, The Arizona Republic reported ([Link: bit.ly...] ). They left the car there, got a rental car in another town and returned to pick up their possessions.

When they arrived back in the northwestern Arizona city made famous by the 1972 Eagles song "Take It Easy," they found an annual festival celebrating the song under way. Musicians, vendors, food tents and people crowded the streets.

Faced with numerous street closures, the pair soon were lost, and everyone agrees John Larsgard turned onto a crowded one-way street headed the wrong way. What happened next is in dispute.

SNIP

Larsgard apologized Thursday, blaming his state of mind for his erratic driving.

Candelaria said all his client was trying to do was leave as quickly as possible. The judge and jury rejected that explanation at his trial, and Larsgard is now awaiting transfer to Arizona's prison system to serve a 7 1/2 year sentence.

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:16:05am

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

Maybe he deserves some time, but 7 years? Barbaric.

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CriticalDragon1177 Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:18:29am

re: #68 I'm a Mavrik!

CD, if he only meant radical Zionism, whatever it may be, or right-wing Zionism, he should have written so. Maybe he's just a poor writer, indeed, but that's still a pretty weird thing to read on an "anti-loon" site.

Latuff was a participant in the Iranian Holocaust cartoon hatefest. While I don't have evidence that he's a denier, he sure likes to rub shoulders with various haters and to draw cartoons comparing Israel to Nazis.

Garibaldi made it clear in his comment clarifying what he was saying that he wasn't talking about all supporters of Israel or all Zionists.

As for you second point.
So Carlos Latuff whose cartoons have been featured on Loon Watch participated in a Holocaust denial cartoon contest? Okay I'll bring that up with them. Loon Watch is not an antisemitic website, so if one of the cartoonists they have used really did participate in an anti Jewish hate fest, they certainly won't like that. I'll bring it up with one of them and see what they have to say about it.

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William of Orange Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:19:44am

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

Norwegian gets prison term for wrong turn in Arizona

SNIP

Where's the "Stand you ground' law for car owners?

Sick...

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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:21:37am

re: #114 I'm a Mavrik!

Maybe he deserves some time, but 7 years? Barbaric.

Not really. A car can be considered a lethal weapon and the judge and jury decided he had aimed the car at people on purpose. That constitutes assault with a deadly weapon, and if aggravating circumstances are present that sort of charge can carry a long sentence.

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Lidane Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:22:36am

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

Norwegian gets prison term for wrong turn in Arizona

Maybe the Nowegian government should send Breivik in this man's place so there would be some hard prison time served. =P

///

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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:22:59am

re: #116 William of Orange

Where's the "Stand you ground' law for car owners?

Sick...

He did not claim self defense. That claim has to be asserted for SYG to be operable, and in this case it would still be an affirmative defense had it been claimed.

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Mocking Jay Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:23:18am

Jack Abramoff?

Four years.

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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:24:48am

re: #118 Lidane

Maybe the Nowegian government should send Breivik in this man's place so there would be some hard prison time served. =P

///

Brevik wouldn't last a season in a US prison. The guards would likely 'forget' some security measure and leave him to be killed by a lifer, as happened to Jeffery Dahmer.

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CriticalDragon1177 Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:25:59am

re: #104 Killgore Trout

Killgore Trout

Don't worry, I'm not antisemitic or anti Jewish. If you think one of the people leaving comments over there is, it might be a good idea to bring it up with them, and with Loon Watch. If you can convince that Loon Watch is antisemitic I'll leave, but I sincerely doubt that they are. For one thing they didn't object to me listing the Anti Defamation League as an anti bigotry website. Also so far, no one in the comments section is suggesting that the ADL is Islamophobic or shouldn't be listed as an anti hate site, since they support Israel.

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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:26:13am

re: #120 Assemble!

Jack Abramoff?

Four years.

Aggravated Assault with a Deadly Weapon is considered a violent crime, and those normally draw harsher sentences than white collar crime.

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:26:16am

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

Not really. A car can be considered a lethal weapon and the judge and jury decided he had aimed the car at people on purpose. That constitutes assault with a deadly weapon, and if aggravating circumstances are present that sort of charge can carry a long sentence.

Sure, but I don't see how it contradicts what I said. I didn't say it is not legal. Only that it is barbaric. Whether it is the bad law, the judge, the jury or a combination thereof are barbaric and responsible for the barbaric sentence is a secondary question.

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Mocking Jay Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:26:40am

re: #121 Dark_Falcon

Brevik wouldn't last a season in a US prison. The guards would likely 'forget' some security measure and leave him to be killed by a lifer, as happened to Jeffery Dahmer.

Ah, some good old dereliction of duty. Good stuff.

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Mocking Jay Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:27:13am

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

Aggravated Assault with a Deadly Weapon is considered a violent crime, and those normally draw harsher sentences than white collar crime.

Yes, Falcon, I know that.

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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:27:42am

re: #124 I'm a Mavrik!

Sure, but I don't see how it contradicts what I said. I didn't say it is not legal. Only that it is barbaric. Whether it is the bad law, the judge, the jury or a combination thereof are barbaric and responsible for the barbaric sentence is a secondary question.

How is it barbaric? That's what I don't understand. It's true John Larsgard claims he did not act out of malice, but the jury and judge did not believe him.

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simoom Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:29:30am

From Time's "Person of the Year" issue. Their story of Adm. McRaven:
[Link: www.time.com...]

McRaven speaks respectfully of Bush as Commander in Chief, saying he "made some very, very tough decisions." About Obama, without a question to prompt him, he waxes lyrical and at length. The planning and decisionmaking for the bin Laden raid, he volunteers, "was really everything the American public would expect from their national leadership."

"The President was at all times presidential," he says. "I would contend he was the smartest guy in the room. He had leadership skills we'd expect from a guy who had 35 years in the military."

Strangely effusive praise from someone who was so obviously, according to the mini-Breits, being hung out to dry, eh (///)?:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

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CriticalDragon1177 Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:30:33am

re: #109 Killgore Trout

I don't think you understood what I was saying or what the person leaving that comment had said. If I misunderstood him and you can show me that he was being antisemitic, than I will take back what I said in reply.

I don't fear or hate Jews, and I'm not someone who supports Nazis or denies the Holocaust. I do not believe in any Jewish conspiracies either.

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:34:09am

re: #127 Dark_Falcon

How is it barbaric? That's what I don't understand. It's true John Larsgard claims he did not act out of malice, but the jury and judge did not believe him.

I don't see anything there to merit 7 fucking years even if there was momentary malice instead of panic. Slap a huge fine on him, make him pay to the people, maybe give him 1 year. 7 years. WTF?

This is a value judgment, of course, so you can see it differently.

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CriticalDragon1177 Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:34:42am

By the way, one more thing, for people who think I'm antisemitic, I support and recommend the Anti Defamation League.

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CriticalDragon1177 Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:36:57am

re: #131 CriticalDragon1177

I know I repeated myself, but I just wanted to make that clear, and yes I do support Israel's right to exist. I just don't see the conflict in black and white terms like I once did.

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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:39:52am

re: #130 I'm a Mavrik!

I don't see anything there to merit 7 fucking years even if there was momentary malice instead of panic. Slap a huge fine on him, make him pay to the people, maybe give him 1 year. 7 years. WTF?

This is a value judgment, of course, so you can see it differently.

Sentencing guidelines, quite likely. Often conviction on Aggravated Assault with a Deadly Weapon automatically carries a harder sentence than that which you have proposed. I've got more to say, but cannot as I must go. BBL

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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:43:10am

Morning all!

HOw is it?

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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:43:53am

re: #129 CriticalDragon1177

I don't think you understood what I was saying or what the person leaving that comment had said. If I misunderstood him and you can show me that he was being antisemitic, than I will take back what I said in reply.

I don't fear or hate Jews, and I'm not someone who supports Nazis or denies the Holocaust. I do not believe in any Jewish conspiracies either.

You don't need to justify anything to me but I don't think loonwatch is a site for me. If you're comfortable with it then that's ok. I wish you well on your journey.

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sattv4u2 Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:45:46am

re: #135 Killgore Trout

I don't think loonwatch is a site for me

You mean thats not where people go to talk about the movie On Golden Pond!?!?!

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CriticalDragon1177 Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:48:15am

re: #135 Killgore Trout

Okay thanks, than. But were saying that I agreed with a Zionist conspiracy and that I had just traded one type of hate for another, and that's not what happened at all.

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CriticalDragon1177 Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:50:33am

re: #137 CriticalDragon1177

Sorry that was a mistake, I didn't proof read before posting it, sorry.

what I meant to say was.

Okay thanks, than. But you were saying that I agreed with an anti Zionist conspiracy theory and that I had just traded one type of hate for another, and that's not what happened at all.

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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:52:46am

ha!

Image: 301711_3004265031963_1422493277_32268187_264201711_n.jpg

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Gus Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:57:44am

re: #138 CriticalDragon1177

Sorry that was a mistake, I didn't proof read before posting it, sorry.

what I meant to say was.

Don't worry about it.

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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:57:48am

This guy. What is he doing now?

Baradei launches new Egyptian party, but too late for election

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CriticalDragon1177 Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:58:47am

Also for those who think that Loon Watch is in anyway antisemetic, they see anti Jewish and anti Muslim hate mongers to be morally equivalent.

Robert Spencer and Julius Streicher, Islamophobia and Anti-semitism: Same Message, Different Minority

They may have had antisemetic, even Nazi websites link to them, but I don't think they appreciate that.

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Gus Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:59:05am

Spencer: Teaming Up with Euro-Supremacists Again

Here’s an interesting piece at Loonwatch on anti-Muslim blogger Robert Spencer’s latest excursion into extreme right wing European politics: Robert Spencer: Teaming up with Euro-Supremacists Again.

Robert Dreyfuss: Anti-Muslim Bigot Explains Islam to FBI | loonwatch.com

Robert Dreyfuss, contributing editor to the Nation Magazine and also a frequent contributor to Rolling Stone, The American Prospect, and Mother Jones has a great blog post about anti-Muslim bigot Robert Spencer of SIOA-fame training and explaining Islam to the FBI and Tidewater Joint Terrorism Task Force.

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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:00:47am

China dissident Chen Guangcheng 'under US protection'

good!

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:02:04am

re: #143 Gus

Personally, I wouldn't hold linking to LW against someone, if they don't know about the more controversial content that exists there. Also, initially LW didn't have that content, it only started appearing quite recently.

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Gus Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:03:06am

re: #145 I'm a Mavrik!

Personally, I wouldn't hold linking to LW against someone, if they don't know about the more controversial content that exists there. Also, initially LW didn't have that content, it only started appearing quite recently.

Understood. Just have to keep an eye on the traditional marginalizing.

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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:03:29am

WOW

Spanish unemployment hits record 5.64 million

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:04:02am

re: #146 Gus

Gotcha.

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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:05:10am

How Very Kewl!

Travelwise: Birth and spread of the world’s national parks

America’s “best idea,” as writer and historian Wallace Stegner called the national parks, went on to spur the creation of protected parkland throughout the world.

Who Knew?

There are now more than 4,000 national parks around the globe, according to the International Union for Conservation of Nature. In the US, more than 270 million people visit the national parks system each year.

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Mocking Jay Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:05:24am

re: #147 ggt

WOW

Spanish unemployment hits record 5.64 million

The austerity will continue until employment improves!

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ProGunLiberal Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:05:30am

re: #121 Dark_Falcon

Unfortunately, I couldn't work up any indignation about that theoretically happening.

re: #129 CriticalDragon1177

Even aside from that, Loonwatch (or its community at least) doesn't really allow for the talking of real problems, such as the Salafis. The people there say the Salafis aren't that bad, never mind the fact they want to get rid of the Age of Consent law in Egypt. Which, to me, makes the Salafis Pedophiles.

However, my opinion of Likud is extremely poor. For me, they are in the same spot in my mental organization of various groups as the Salafis & Muslim Brotherhood, the BJP of India, and the Republican Party of the US. This is why I want an independent solution for Jerusalem. I don't trust either side, and I could see Likud allowing a bunch of fanatic rioters to destroy Al-Aqsa and Dome of the Rock, just like what happened at Babri Mosque.

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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:08:55am

re: #134 ggt

Morning all!

HOw is it?

Slow morning since my trip to New Jersey was canceled.

And I realize I have to go into work to fetch a flash drive with some files I need. So I'm putting that off by drinking tea, sitting next to the Feline Overlord, and mucking around with a coat-of-arms design program on a web-site.

This is not entirely wasted time since I'm saving designs now and then that might be useful in the Arthurian RPG sessions.

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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:10:15am

re: #152 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Slow morning since my trip to New Jersey was canceled.

And I realize I have to go into work to fetch a flash drive with some files I need. So I'm putting that off by drinking tea, sitting next to the Feline Overlord, and mucking around with a coat-of-arms design program on a web-site.

This is not entirely wasted time since I'm saving designs now and then that might be useful in the Arthurian RPG sessions.

Very cool, I had fun with photoshop in the wee hours and opened a store on Cafepress.

Does your Feline Overlord like tea?

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Gus Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:11:17am

re: #148 I'm a Mavrik!

Gotcha.

Hey. Do you have a link to the extremist version of the Jerusalem Post? I know that Arutz Sheva has Kahanists from time to time.

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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:11:23am

re: #150 Assemble!

The austerity will continue until employment improves!

It's at Depression levels over there --nearly 25%.

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Mich-again Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:11:23am

A snapshot I took of a vendor booth in Pattaya Thailand earlier this week. Lets see the themes, marijuana, Che', sex, whiskey, motorcycles, Hitler. Ya gotta sell what the Euro tourists want to buy apparently..

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:13:39am

re: #154 Gus

Hey. Do you have a link to the extremist version of the Jerusalem Post? I know that Arutz Sheva has Kahanists from time to time.

I see where you are going with that ;)

I don't read JPost regularly enough to have anything of interest. You may remember the stupid post-Breivik editorial there?

Or did you mean some other media source?

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Gus Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:16:32am

re: #157 I'm a Mavrik!

I see where you are going with that ;)

I don't read JPost regularly enough to have anything of interest. You may remember the stupid post-Breivik editorial there?

Or did you mean some other media source?

Unpossible! Oh. I don't remember the link but it seems as though I remember some strange version of the JPost that's chock full of typically American Christian extremism (right wing stuff) if I remember correctly. Been a while. Maybe it was during the heat of last summer.

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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:16:35am

re: #153 ggt

Very cool, I had fun with photoshop in the wee hours and opened a store on Cafepress.

Does your Feline Overlord like tea?

Sometimes he will stink his nose in the cup and take a lap or two if it's cool enough. Otherwise he generally ignores it.

Example: PNG file of a COA

Craneborne Manor

I also pick up graphics for use as NPCs off of Google. Generally clip them and/or do paint/photoshop adjustments. This one, for example, is going to be attached to a Saxon warlord NPC at some point.

Saxon Warlord

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ProGunLiberal Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:17:06am

re: #157 I'm a Mavrik!

Unfortunately, when I did a google search some time ago, I found other Israeli Newspapers saying the same things, and some Israeli blogs too.

Safe to say that, if Norway wasn't in Palestine's camp before, they are now. Although, with them being close to Turkey, the effect may have been negligible.

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:17:22am

re: #158 Gus

Ahh. Yes. The Christian version?

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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:17:26am

re: #159 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Sometimes he will stink his nose in the cup and take a lap or two if it's cool enough. Otherwise he generally ignores it.

Example: PNG file of a COA

Craneborne Manor

I also pick up graphics for use as NPCs off of Google. Generally clip them and/or do paint/photoshop adjustments. This one, for example, is going to be attached to a Saxon warlord NPC at some point.

Saxon Warlord

What kind of bird?

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Gus Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:17:44am

re: #161 I'm a Mavrik!

Ahh. Yes. The Christian version?

Yes. That's the one.

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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:17:47am

re: #158 Gus

Unpossible! Oh. I don't remember the link but it seems as though I remember some strange version of the JPost that's chock full of typically American Christian extremism (right wing stuff) if I remember correctly. Been a while. Maybe it was during the heat of last summer.

You might be thinking of their op-ed section. They run editorials from a lot of American wingnuts.

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:17:47am

re: #158 Gus

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

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Gus Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:19:34am

re: #164 Killgore Trout

You might be thinking of their op-ed section. They run editorials from a lot of American wingnuts.

Sergey posted the link.

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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:21:15am

re: #162 ggt

What kind of bird?

Those are cranes, but there are some other options in this designer (falcons, martlets, and of course eagles in a number of poses.) Since the town associated with the coat is Cranborne and is located on a river having cranes associated with the coat makes sense.

[Link: inkwellideas.com...]

Link there if you want to see it. Doesn't take a lot of practice for basic proficiency. And I also tend not to create real complex designs in any case.

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:21:52am

re: #166 Gus

I don't remember what the issue was about. Too lazy to search the comments.

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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:22:41am

re: #162 ggt

What kind of bird?

And I don't think the Saxon warlord is that picky about types of birds in any case.

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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:23:37am

re: #169 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

And I don't think the Saxon warlord is that picky about types of birds in any case.

Somehow, I thought there might be a loon joke in there, but I'm not awake yet.

Anyway, it looks like loads of fun.

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Gus Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:24:39am

re: #168 I'm a Mavrik!

I don't remember what the issue was about. Too lazy to search the comments.

That's OK. I'm running out of steam.

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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:26:18am

re: #170 ggt

Somehow, I thought there might be a loon joke in there, but I'm not awake yet.

Anyway, it looks like loads of fun.

Hmm, there's no loon in the basic graphics library. And it's not a traditional heraldic bird, though I'm sure it's used for some up in Canada.

Punning in coat-of-arms has historical precedence in any case. A family called Shelley used scallop shells on their shield in the 15th century. And so on.

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