On Meet the Press today, Rachel Maddow faced off with an old white man (GOP strategist Alex Castellanos), in a perfect illustration of the reason the Republican Party is so unpopular with women and young people.
The obvious condescension is a mask for fear; people like Castellanos are terrified of women like Rachel Maddow.
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erik_t Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:27:11pm |
The preview image for the video file is pretty much perfect. Mix of disbelief, disgust and sadness.
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Kragarghazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:28:25pm |
Nothing illustrates the point better than a old guy constantly interrupting a woman to tell her what she should think.
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Kragarghazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:36:27pm |
I also enjoyed how he made the attempt to distinguish between traditionally male occupations, ignoring the information which points to the salaries for women in those occupations.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:36:34pm |
He didn't compare apples to apples.
Do female engineers make less than their male counterparts?
Do female CEO's make less than their male counterparts?
etc.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:36:43pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:37:35pm |
In my mind 'bitch' is not a derogatory term.
It means you are a challenge.
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Eclectic Infidel Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:37:58pm |
What an incredible condescending, dishonest jerk. Got me angry watching that. Damn.
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erik_t Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:38:39pm |
re: #6 Unlike Some People
It's really been pathetic to watch CNN attempt to pander to the Fox News demographic without really understanding how to do so. At this point, any given segment might be interchangeable, the only difference being whether the segment grew out of incompetence or malice.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:39:04pm |
re: #9 Eclectic Infidel
You and me. I did not watch the whole thing because I would end up throwing my computer at the wall.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:39:09pm |
I love how Rachel takes things to the lowest common demoninator --the essence of an argument. "This is a factual issue, this is a style issue . . ."
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Ben G. Hazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:39:29pm |
re: #6 Unlike Some People
His "white hands" commercial:
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[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
What a POS, in the vein of Lee Atwater (before his deathbed repudiation of his tactics).
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Kragarghazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:40:37pm |
re: #7 ggt
In my mind 'bitch' is not a derogatory term.
It means you are a challenge.
I always think of it as a verb, and people who engage in that verb.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:41:06pm |
re: #14 Kragar
I always think of it as a verb, and people who engage in that verb.
noun -a female dog
verb-a complainer?
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Kragarghazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:42:03pm |
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Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:43:26pm |
Rachel: "This is not a math is hard debate"
Dinosaur with a mustache: "Yes it is"
LOL!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:44:01pm |
re: #16 Kragar
incessant complaining
either one is usually used condenscending response to someone who doesn't want to communicate, but one who wants to win an argument.
When it is used against me, it is almost always by someone who doesn't want to think and is frustrated because I am trying to reach a meeting of the minds, and won't let them win.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:44:56pm |
re: #19 Obdicut
That guy's smile is so creepy.
everything about him was creepy.
I sincerely get the impression that with these people, Rachel is by default, wrong because she is a Lesbian and a LIberal.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:46:17pm |
The obvious condescension is a mask for fear; people like Castellanos are terrified of women like Rachel Maddow.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:46:48pm |
re: #21 Charles Johnson
The obvious condescension is a mask for fear; people like Castellanos are terrified of women like Rachel Maddow.
YES!!!, we have a winner.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:48:52pm |
re: #21 Charles Johnson
Rachel has a functioning brain; the guy interrupting her does not.
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sagehen Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:55:12pm |
If I were 20 years younger, and a lesbian, and she were single... I'd totally hit that.
On second thought, I wouldn't even have to be a lesbian. If I were 20 years younger and she were single, I'd make an exception from my actual orientation. A brain like that makes up for not having my preferred anatomy.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Apr 29, 2012 1:55:54pm |
re: #24 sagehen
If I were 20 years younger, and a lesbian, and she were single... I'd totally hit that.
On second thought, I wouldn't even have to be a lesbian. If I were 20 years younger and she were single, I'd make an exception from my actual orientation. A brain like that makes up for not having my preferred anatomy.
Which is the point, right?
I was raised that Love has no Boundries.
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TooManyJens Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:02:27pm |
What an unctuous jackass. I was glad that she straight-up told him, "That's really condescending." Not that he took her words to heart in the slightest, because she's just a woman and needn't be taken seriously. People like that love women as long as we stay in our place and do what they want us to do, but if we dare come to a conclusion that differs from their view of how the world is supposed to be, the knives come out. We're not for thinking; we're not for having our own goals and interests; that's not our purpose.
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Romantic Heretic Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:04:55pm |
I will give the jackoff credit for the facility with which he can pull facts out of his ass.
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austin_blue Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:10:40pm |
re: #28 Romantic Heretic
I will give the jackoff credit for the facility with which he can pull facts out of his ass.
Exactly. He pulls one sliver of one cherry-picked demographic and presents it as "So your entire point is wrong! It must be, because we found an exception!"
Stupid Flanders...
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TooManyJens Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:15:40pm |
The problem with the "men make more than women because men and women make different choices" argument is that it's much easier to make than it is to refute. The refutation is complicated. Yes, there are some simple cases of plain old wage discrimination, but there are also a lot of structural inequities that drive the "choices" men and women make. If a woman is married and has a child, she will almost certainly be largely responsible for the upbringing of that child, because we haven't nearly reached equity among parents in childrearing. So she probably won't be working as many hours. (And why is there the expectation that people will be working more than 40 hours, anyway? Fucking labor rights are shot to hell in this country.) You could say, "that's because of her decision to have a child," but is it really, when a man's choice to become a father doesn't have the same effect on his career? Or look at the grossly sexist atmosphere that drives a lot of women out of the tech industry. Again, you could say that it's women's choice not to be in that industry, but that choice is made in an unfair context. Lots of women's "choices" are influenced by shit that men don't have to put up with.
Now try explaining all this in between the interruptions of some preening asshole on cable news.
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TooManyJens Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:21:23pm |
re: #29 austin_blue
Exactly. He pulls one sliver of one cherry-picked demographic and presents it as "So your entire point is wrong! It must be, because we found an exception!"
I liked the "if you remove the marriage factor..." point he was starting in on. What the fuck? Most women over, IDK, 25 or so are married. They just don't get to have equality? Or maybe women just shouldn't get married, is that it? You just know this guy also calls himself "pro-family."
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Ghazicide Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:23:30pm |
re: #31 TooManyJens
I liked the "if you remove the marriage factor..." point he was starting in on. What the fuck? Most women over, IDK, 25 or so are married. They just don't get to have equality? Or maybe women just shouldn't get married, is that it? You just know this guy also calls himself "pro-family."
Women should shut up and make babies.
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Kid Aghazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:28:36pm |
re: #24 sagehen
If I were 20 years younger, and a lesbian, and she were single... I'd totally hit that.
Well, I'm probably Maddow's age, and I will say that if Rachel was straight, I would walk through hell with a can of gasoline, barefoot on broken glass to get a chance to have sex with her. Her mind is so fucking sexy, the aftertalk would be stimulating.
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Gus Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:31:12pm |
This is freaking too much. Republicans, Romney, et al, are a bunch of psychopaths:
Romney camp takes credit for the auto bailout's success tpm.ly/IwCc08— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) April 29, 2012
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austin_blue Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:33:05pm |
Great read from today's NYT:
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
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Interesting Times in Benghazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:34:59pm |
Speaking of clueless, condescending, nasty old GOP men:
@NatlWOW Rally in Salem, OR #UAWOW twitter.com/TboneHighlande...— Tara McLoud (@TboneHighlander) April 29, 2012
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Gus Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:35:26pm |
re: #37 Everything in Its Right Place
That tweet is a joke, right? RIGHT??!!
...
“[Romney’s] position on the bailout was exactly what President Obama followed,” Fehrnstrom said. “He said, ‘If you want to save the auto industry, just don’t write them a check. That will seal their doom. What they need to do is go through a managed bankruptcy process.’”
“Consider that the crown jewel,” Fehrnstrom said. “The only economic success that President Obama has had is because he followed Mitt Romney’s advice.”
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Kid Aghazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:36:43pm |
re: #35 Gus
So what the fuck was this about?
IF General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye. It won’t go overnight, but its demise will be virtually guaranteed.
Romney, you are a fucking tool.
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Ben G. Hazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:37:53pm |
re: #35 Gus
This is freaking too much. Republicans, Romney, et al, are a bunch of psychopaths:
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From the NYT article:
Vice President Biden reiterated the president’s bottom-line election-year pitch on Thursday: “Osama bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive.” The opposite might be true, Biden said, if Mitt Romney had been president.
But top Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom is also giving credit to his candidate for the auto industry’s success. At a Saturday forum hosted by the Washington Post, Fehrnstrom said that Obama’s auto industry rescue was successful because it was exactly what Romney himself proposed.
“[Romney’s] position on the bailout was exactly what President Obama followed,” Fehrnstrom said. “He said, ‘If you want to save the auto industry, just don’t write them a check. That will seal their doom. What they need to do is go through a managed bankruptcy process.’”
“Consider that the crown jewel,” Fehrnstrom said. “The only economic success that President Obama has had is because he followed Mitt Romney’s advice.”
The Romney campaign has to have huge balls of granite to try to steal credit from the Obama administration carrying out the auto industry bailout...and the RWNJs will still have to hold their noses to pull the lever for him in the fall.
Quite a bit of chutzpah going on there...
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Stanghazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:38:27pm |
re: #20 ggt
everything about him was creepy.
I sincerely get the impression that with these people, Rachel is by default, wrong because she is a Lesbian and a LIberal.
and a Rhodes Scholar. And in the media. Sacre bleu! The quadruple path of fear!
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Kid Aghazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:38:55pm |
“[Romney’s] position on the bailout was exactly what President Obama followed,” Fehrnstrom said. “He said, ‘If you want to save the auto industry, just don’t write them a check. That will seal their doom. What they need to do is go through a managed bankruptcy process.’”
There was not a single private investor that was willing to put up their own capital into GM. Not one.
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Lidane Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:40:16pm |
re: #35 Gus
This is freaking too much. Republicans, Romney, et al, are a bunch of psychopaths:
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Wait -- Mitt "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt" Romney wants to take credit for the auto bailout? Haha.
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Gus Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:41:22pm |
re: #46 Lidane
Wait -- Mitt "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt" Romney wants to take credit for the auto bailout? Haha.
It's easy when you have an Etch-A-Sketch!
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erik_t Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:41:45pm |
re: #35 Gus
This is freaking too much. Republicans, Romney, et al, are a bunch of psychopaths:
The man is a model of efficiency. It's a slow process to flip-flop evolve your views. It's much more expeditious to just flat-out lie about your previous position.
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Lidane Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:43:55pm |
re: #45 Everything in Its Right Place
There was not a single private investor that was willing to put up their own capital into GM. Not one.
Facts have a liberal bias.
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Ben G. Hazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:45:11pm |
re: #45 Everything in Its Right Place
There was not a single private investor that was willing to put up their own capital into GM. Not one.
Hard to do a "managed bankruptcy" when everyone in rwmofo's vaunted private sector who would be able to sink money into it knows they'll either be out that money the moment they put it in (like the other debt holders) or the ROI wouldn't be large enough, fast enough for them; hence, the only viable investor in this situation WAS the federal government.
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Lidane Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:46:04pm |
re: #50 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012
Hi Jen. I've never had kids and still make less than the dudes doing the same shit. Motherhood as an excuse is a LIE.
Exactly. Motherhood might interrupt a woman's career path, but even women who haven't had kids and who have worked the entire time in their chosen field still make less than similarly qualified men at the same job.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:46:28pm |
OK, for the second Sunday in a row, the guy who was supposed to call me for a phone interview about a part-time job has stood me up.
I'm planning to e-mail.
How would you phrase this? I'm still, actually, interested in the gig. But pretending that this isn't happening will make me look a little peculiar.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:47:07pm |
I'm so old I can remember when Alex Castellanos was sold to me as the "nice" "moderate" republican
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Kid Aghazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:47:55pm |
For real, I was against the GM bailout as well as TARP because I thought (and still think) that it creates an environment where there are no consequences to your actions; you can just dial up your Congress and get a check when you fuck things up.
However, after a lot of reading and thinking about the GM bailout, I came to the conclusion that it was the right thing to do because if GM collapsed, it would have sent a chain reaction throughout the entire auto industry. Believe it or not, a lot (and I mean A LOT) of people do not realize that car companies don't manufacture every single item that goes into a car! GM designs and puts together the cars, but doesn't manufacture the tires, the brakes, the alternators, the batteries, the belts. There are millions of jobs that produce all that stuff, and of course with all those jobs comes a lot of buying power. Good grief, it would have been a nightmare if President Bush had not authorized it, I'll at least give the jackass credit for that.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:48:35pm |
re: #54 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]
I remember a time when Republicans were considered nice people too. Now is not one of those times.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:48:40pm |
re: #52 Lidane
Exactly. Motherhood might interrupt a woman's career path, but even women who haven't had kids and who have worked the entire time in their chosen field still make less than similarly qualified men at the same job.
worst things ever: "brogrammer"
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:48:51pm |
re: #45 Everything in Its Right Place
There was not a single private investor that was willing to put up their own capital into GM. Not one.
Romney is counting on amnesia about how bad the credit crunch really was. The scary thing is this is a viable strategy because lot of people never really understood it to begin with. Add to that the confusion on differences between bankruptcy under chapters 7 and 11 and this is what you get, Romney rewriting history to take credit for everything good that came out of the auto bailout.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:50:26pm |
re: #56 PhillyPretzel
I remember a time when Republicans were considered nice people too. Now is not one of those times.
I grew up in Washington, I remember republicans who were at least not evil
but I guess the GOP brand is this shit now, and will remain this
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:51:06pm |
re: #56 PhillyPretzel
I remember a time when Republicans were considered nice people too. Now is not one of those times.
Some of the nicest people I know are Republicans. Most of them have developed permanent widening of the eyes as they stare at the state of the party, though.
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Kid Aghazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:51:40pm |
Here's Romney on the rag about the GM bailout in the NY Times Op-Ed:
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:51:53pm |
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Gus Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:51:59pm |
re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist
Some of the nicest people I know are Republicans. Most of them have developed permanent widening of the eyes as they stare at the state of the party, though.
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Stanghazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:53:08pm |
re: #53 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, for the second Sunday in a row, the guy who was supposed to call me for a phone interview about a part-time job has stood me up.
I'm planning to e-mail.
How would you phrase this? I'm still, actually, interested in the gig. But pretending that this isn't happening will make me look a little peculiar.
Heeeey, did you forget me dude? Nah, don't do that one.
Hello, I understand that you are busy and weekends are time to spend with friends & fam, but we had an appt right? Right?
Good luck, that sucks when the employer is less on track than you.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:53:11pm |
apparently Klout's offices are a great place to douse in gasoline and torch work due to the fact that they actively recruit "brogrammers"
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:54:01pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:54:33pm |
re: #63 Gus
is that from the No One Knows video
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:54:46pm |
re: #65 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012
Heeey, did you forget me dude? Nah, don't do that one.
Hello, I understand that you are busy and weekends are time to spend with friends & fam, but we had an appt right? Right?
Good luck, that sucks when the employer is less on track than you.
Well, the difficult part is that he apologized so nicely last time, and in the last exchange of mail he said "I'll call you at 2 PM on Sunday--famous last words."
So this is now embarassing for him, I'm sure, which means I need to be rather delicate in how I handle it on my end.
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Gus Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:55:47pm |
re: #68 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]
is that from the No One Knows video
Maybe? I've seen it before and just scooped it up from Google. Was looking for "deer in the headlights." Next up was the "1,000 yard stare" although that one was originally the "2,000 yard stare."
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Apr 29, 2012 3:01:52pm |
re: #52 Lidane
Exactly. Motherhood might interrupt a woman's career path, but even women who haven't had kids and who have worked the entire time in their chosen field still make less than similarly qualified men at the same job.
That's the crucial point that Alex deliberately missed. Also, to put the modern workforce even further in to perspective, the women are on average better educated. They've surpassed men not only in college enrollment but in the attainment of advanced degrees.
As more and more men do the stay at home thing now as a result of women's greater earning power in individual relationships, the continued disparity for the same work done should become more and more noticeable. Factoring in marriage doesn't really explain things anymore.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 29, 2012 3:02:48pm |
re: #70 Gus
Maybe? I've seen it before and just scooped it up from Google. Was looking for "deer in the headlights." Next up was the "1,000 yard stare" although that one was originally the "2,000 yard stare."
I've seen that expression in pictures of child soldiers in Africa. It's uncanny on a grown man. In a little boy, it's...eeeeehhh.
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Stanghazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 3:03:23pm |
re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, the difficult part is that he apologized so nicely last time, and in the last exchange of mail he said "I'll call you at 2 PM on Sunday--famous last words."
So this is now embarassing for him, I'm sure, which means I need to be rather delicate in how I handle it on my end.
I'm brainstorming.
Email that says "I'm still interested"
That's it.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Apr 29, 2012 3:04:33pm |
re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, the difficult part is that he apologized so nicely last time, and in the last exchange of mail he said "I'll call you at 2 PM on Sunday--famous last words."
So this is now embarassing for him, I'm sure, which means I need to be rather delicate in how I handle it on my end.
Say "I'm sorry, I stepped out to go crossbow hunting and must have missed your call." This gives him an out and lets him know you go crossbow hunting.
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Ben G. Hazi Sun, Apr 29, 2012 3:05:41pm |
re: #74 goddamnedfrank
Say "I'm sorry, I stepped out to go crossbow hunting and must have missed your call." This gives him an out and lets him know you go crossbow hunting.
For squirrel and rabbit...
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Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 29, 2012 3:07:43pm |
re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, the difficult part is that he apologized so nicely last time, and in the last exchange of mail he said "I'll call you at 2 PM on Sunday--famous last words."
So this is now embarassing for him, I'm sure, which means I need to be rather delicate in how I handle it on my end.
With some careful phrasing, you could convey that you have your act together, and are not totally sure you want to work for an outfit that doesn't seem to have it's act together. Interviews work both ways.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Apr 29, 2012 3:08:11pm |
re: #75 ArthurSlugworth
For squirrel and rabbit...
The wolverines kept trying to attack my cousins, what the heck would you do in a situation like that?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 29, 2012 3:10:54pm |
Is opening with "Third time's the charm?" too obnoxious?
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Lidane Sun, Apr 29, 2012 3:12:52pm |
re: #21 Charles Johnson
The obvious condescension is a mask for fear; people like Castellanos are terrified of women like Rachel Maddow.
They're terrified of anyone who is smarter and more competent than they are. Castellanos knows he's outmatched in a battle of wits with Rachel so he has to resort to being a sexist, condescending douche instead.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Sun, Apr 29, 2012 3:21:44pm |
re: #53 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, for the second Sunday in a row, the guy who was supposed to call me for a phone interview about a part-time job has stood me up.
I'm planning to e-mail.
How would you phrase this? I'm still, actually, interested in the gig. But pretending that this isn't happening will make me look a little peculiar.
My mother's take in letters after being ignored 2-3 times was opening it with:
"DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN. Now that I have your attention..."
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blueraven Sun, Apr 29, 2012 3:24:35pm |
re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, the difficult part is that he apologized so nicely last time, and in the last exchange of mail he said "I'll call you at 2 PM on Sunday--famous last words."
So this is now embarassing for him, I'm sure, which means I need to be rather delicate in how I handle it on my end.
I usually handle these situation with a bit of sarc/empathy
I do hope everything is OK with you...no health emergency, or other unforeseen matter that required your immediate and full attention...
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Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 29, 2012 3:26:38pm |
re: #78 SanFranciscoZionist
Is opening with "Third time's the charm?" too obnoxious?
Try: "I'll be out then, can I have a number where I can reach you at 3:00?"
Stephen Potter Rules.
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TooManyJens Sun, Apr 29, 2012 3:39:10pm |
re: #50 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012
Hi Jen. I've never had kids and still make less than the dudes doing the same shit. Motherhood as an excuse is a LIE.
Oh, I believe you. I'm just saying, there are lots of complicated factors behind the simplistic stats they like to cite, which lets people like Castellanos get away with doing the Gish Gallop.
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Mattand Sun, Apr 29, 2012 3:56:38pm |
re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist
Some of the nicest people I know are Republicans. Most of them have developed permanent widening of the eyes as they stare at the state of the party, though.
My experience is the opposite, in that while the Republicans I know are nice, the mental gymnastics they use to ignore/justify the current GOP lunacy is simply staggering.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Apr 29, 2012 4:49:58pm |
re: #84 mattand
My experience is the opposite, in that while the Republicans I know are nice, the mental gymnastics they use to ignore/justify the current GOP lunacy is simply staggering.
anyone can be "nice" to your face and still condone evil
isn't that how cars are sold? The salesmen are always "nice"
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 29, 2012 4:53:02pm |
re: #85 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]
anyone can be "nice" to your face and still condone evil
isn't that how cars are sold? The salesmen are always "nice"
Salespeople are always 'nice' when they're selling. The honest ones, like me, are the ones who'll tell you the truth about what the product does and if you really need it.
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William of Orange Sun, Apr 29, 2012 6:49:14pm |
Funvideo of the day!
This is how athiests deal with Islamic demonstrators. Aussie style!
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benf_dc Mon, Apr 30, 2012 8:33:15am |
Great Diane Rehm segment today on the Violence Against Women Act. There have been a number of shows recently where Rehm and her other guests have just let the Republican talking head go on unchallenged. While not completely over-the-top (Phyllis Schlafly’s performance last month was one for the ages), Charlotte Hays did reveal a great deal of the Republican mindset: these issues are more appropriately dealt with at the local level; rape is now too broadly defined; protective orders can be too easy to obtain; heightened focus on highly-vulnerable communities (foreign domestic workers, Native American women, et al.) is problematic; and on and on.
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Funky_Gibbon Mon, Apr 30, 2012 1:53:50pm |
It takes a brave (and stupid) man to be condescending to Rachel Maddow.
Alone in a Bathroom: The Fear and Uncertainty of a Post-Roe Medication Abortion Angel tucked two white pills into each side of her mouth, bracing herself as they began to dissolve. Her deepest fears and anxieties took over. Angel had wanted to talk to a doctor before she took the pills to ...
Cheechako
They Were Desperate to Get Pregnant. Then IVF Gave Them Extra Embryos. One morning last spring, Ashley Harrolle put her 1-year-old daughter down for a nap and went to the kitchen. She pulled up her fertility clinic’s contact information. It was time to make the call. In a freezer several hundred ... CheechakoJoe Bacon ✅
March FavoritesYou've seen these all already but looking back, just because. These are my favorite shots of this last month. That 1937 Zeiss Sonnar is such a gloriously wonderful bit of glass. Thanks for looking.
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Russia’s New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka When we landed on the moon, I thought about how science fiction had become real. Now, the robot wars have begun. It's more poignant somehow on the ground than in the missile wars we have in the air as ...
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Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... CheechakoKGxvi
Abortions Outside Medical System Increased Sharply After Roe Fell, Study Finds The number of women using abortion pills to end their pregnancies on their own without the direct involvement of a U.S.-based medical provider rose sharply in the months after the Supreme Court eliminated a constitutional right to abortion, according ... Cheechako
Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ... Cheechako
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
