How Dana and Chris Loesch Exploited the Conservative Movement … Again

The Loeschs have a long history of profiting on the backs of the true believers
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In the wake of CNN contributer Dana Loesch’s latest conspiracy-mongering about LGF owner Charles Johnson, I thought this would be a good opportunity to review Dana and Chris Loesch’s long history of using movement conservatives for their own personal gain.

Roughly four years ago, Chris and Dana Loesch voted for Mitt Romney in the Missouri Republican primary against several other Republicans including Mike Huckabee and John McCain. Dana Loesch, in a live blog of a Republican debate, called Romney’s individual health insurance mandate “an exercise in conservatism.”

Since the election of Obama, however, the Loeschs have done an impressive job making money and gaining publicity by carefully constructing an image of being “hardcore conservatives.” There are several examples of how the Loeschs have directly profited off of their constructed image.

The Loeschs and John Wayne Tucker

During the 2010 elections, despite a claim of never endorsing in primaries, Dana Loesch supported a former Republican Chief of Staff for the Governor in a congressional primary against an uber conservative challenger. Loesch hosted the former Chief of Staff, Ed Martin, on her show frequently but shut out his opponent John Wayne Tucker (cool name, eh?), before ultimately going on a social media rampage against Tucker.

But what really makes this interesting is that at no point during her attacks on Tucker did Loesch reveal that her husband’s business, Shock City Studios, had actually been paid $5,000 by Ed Martin’s campaign to create a campaign commercial. Loesch was promoting Martin’s candidacy without ever letting on that her husband Chris Loesch was being compensated by the campaign. When my story about this was picked up by the local alt weekly, the Loeschs freaked out and gave an incomprehensible “explanation” for why this was not a clear conflict of interest that should have been announced.

Exploiting the St. Louis Tea Party

Of course, what really made the Loeschs some cash money was Dana Loesch’s rise as a pundit representing “the tea party.” This led to paid speaking gigs and a contract from CNN. In fact, I think it’s pretty obvious that the only reason anyone outside of St. Louis ever heard of her was the publicity she gained by calling herself a “co-founder of the St. Louis Tea Party.”

This fact, however, became awkward when the Loeschs had a bitter breakup with the St. Louis Tea Party (again over electoral politics with the Loeschs supporting the establishment candidate).

Most amazingly about this breakup, however, is the fact that the Loeschs consistently make the absurd claim that Dana Loesch’s rise in fame had absolutely nothing to do with the tea party. In fact, Loesch banned people from her Facebook page for even asking if her fame had something to do with the tea party.

In other words, they had absolutely no gratitude whatsoever to the movement that brought them whatever fame and fortune they have.

The Infamous “Twitter Gulag” Grift

And now we come to the current episode.

Chris Loesch was suspended from Twitter after triggering their spam algorithms by sending multiple unsolicited messages to other users. The Loeschs freaked out and declared that this was a “coordinated attack” on conservatives and riled up the right-wing blogosphere (based first on rampant speculation and later a chopped up email).

For two days, the right-wing bloggers were in a frenzy believing themselves to be fighting for the glory of Free Speech and the 1st Amendment. They declared this was a massive conspiracy orchestrated by Charles Johnson.

And what did they achieve with all of this frenzied activity based on misinformation? Absolutely nothing, except that Chris Loesch increased his twitter followers from a tiny number to 10,000+, thus adding to the “value” ($$$) of his account. He immediately took advantage by linking to a promotion for a music video.

Making conservatives look silly

So once again, the Loeschs were able to make the most out of a situation and further their own personal interest at the expense of wasting the time of conservatives and making them look silly. For myself and fellow liberals, this is actually reason to celebrate, because a “movement” led by people who care only about their own self-interest is destined for failure.

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217 comments
1 jaunte  Wed, May 2, 2012 1:37:21pm

"The first rule of grifting is, you can't cheat an honest man."

2 CuriousLurker  Wed, May 2, 2012 1:37:21pm

WOW. Just wow. O_o

3 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 1:40:56pm

“Nobody ever lost a dollar by underestimating the taste of the American public.”
― P.T. Barnum

4 Obdicut  Wed, May 2, 2012 1:41:26pm

It's amazing how obvious fakes like this can gain credibility in hard-core conservative circles. I guess it's because their brand of conservatism doesn't depend on having achieved anything, just about being an aggressive, anti-intellectual loudmouth.

5 Randall Gross  Wed, May 2, 2012 1:44:32pm

OT: TPM tries to combat trolls by moving comments to facebook, something I"m seeing more and more of.[Link: talkingpointsmemo.com...]

6 erik_t  Wed, May 2, 2012 1:44:52pm

re: #4 Obdicut

I guess it's because their brand of conservatism doesn't depend on having achieved anything, just about being an aggressive, anti-intellectual loudmouth.

This is a convenient answer to the question I hadn't yet had a chance to ask: who the hell were/are these people and why, precisely, is anyone supposed to give a damn what they have to say?

7 Randall Gross  Wed, May 2, 2012 1:46:13pm

Great write up here, I can't say I've held the notion a long time, but I've noted that lately most of the grenade throwers from the right are purely in it for the money, following the Coulter/Limbaugh path to wealth.

8 EdDantes  Wed, May 2, 2012 1:47:40pm

re: #2 CuriousLurker

WOW. Just wow. O_o

I hear Christopher Walken saying, "Wow."

9 Daniel Ballard  Wed, May 2, 2012 1:48:05pm

Tune in next week for the next episode of....
TROLLING FOR DOLLARS *Cheesy game show host voice-over"

10 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, May 2, 2012 1:51:06pm

I would change this to "people who want to run the country"

Image: 428223_367596253280202_197465000293329_1128077_619340489_n.jpg

11 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 1:51:32pm

re: #8 EdDantes

I hear Christopher Walken saying, "Wow."

"I really need to tell you, it could use some more dog whistle."

12 jaunte  Wed, May 2, 2012 1:51:44pm

Husband of CNN's Dana Loesch not targeted by leftists on Twitter, evidence suggests

Still, several outlets accept the idea that leftist thought police are systematically purging Twitter of conservative voices. The National Review Online writes that, "in recent days, left-wing users in America have taken to suppressing conservative accounts on Twitter. They have used Twitter's anti-spam measures to shut down conservative voices by flagging their accounts en masse as spam."

It's a TwitspamAlinskyspiracy.

13 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 1:52:52pm

re: #12 jaunte

Husband of CNN's Dana Loesch not targeted by leftists on Twitter, evidence suggests

It's a TwitspamAlinskyspiracy.

The lack of evidence IS the evidence!

14 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, May 2, 2012 1:53:40pm
15 EdDantes  Wed, May 2, 2012 1:54:28pm

re: #14 ggt

Of course.

16 jaunte  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:00:04pm

This part is great:

Chris Loesch increased his twitter followers from a tiny number to 10,000+, thus adding to the “value” ($$$) of his account. He immediately took advantage by linking to a promotion for a music video.

MegaProfits!

17 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:00:15pm
18 Decatur Deb  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:01:36pm

re: #14 ggt

Is this appropriate?

No. It's hurtful. Makes me want to covet every one of KT's downdings.

19 Varek Raith  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:03:56pm

Image: chickens.jpg

Good afternoon.

20 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:05:24pm

Michael Steele just said Mitt Romney is a man of honor, I swore he'd be hit by lightning saying that.

21 Varek Raith  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:07:10pm

re: #20 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Michael Steele just said Mitt Romney is a man of honor, I swore he'd be hit by lightning saying that.

God was too busy laughing. Threw off his aim.

22 Decatur Deb  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:07:29pm

re: #19 Varek Raith

Image: chickens.jpg

Good afternoon.

Been babysitting the 20-month-old for three days. He loves Chicken McNuggets. We went out to the museum/farm today to see the chickens. Let mom explain that.

23 jaunte  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:07:52pm

Fox News’s Shep Smith, reacting to Romney's statement on Gingrich getting out of the race:

"Politics is weird. And creepy..."

24 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:13:45pm

re: #23 jaunte

ROFLMAO. Shep should know given the network he works for.

25 Varek Raith  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:17:53pm

re: #23 jaunte

Fox News’s Shep Smith, reacting to Romney's statement on Gingrich getting out of the race:

That's funny.

26 Gus  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:22:40pm

It wouldn't surprise me if Chris Loesch found a way to have himself suspended from Twitter and was thus suspended "by design." Of course, unlike them, I will admit this is unprovable or a bit of a conspiracy. For now, just call it a hunch.

27 CowboyLogic  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:23:20pm

Here is a factual statement that will make ALL of you folks here sit up and take notice. I was Andrew Breitbart's staunchest supporter on his websites. I was at Big Government from day one forward, until their recent change.

Dana Loesch is one of the contributing reasons why I left. She is an idiot.

28 Obdicut  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:24:26pm

re: #27 CowboyLogic

Were you taken in by the fraudulent ACORN videos, then?

29 Gus  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:24:38pm

Heh.

30 Decatur Deb  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:25:39pm

re: #27 CowboyLogic

Here is a factual statement that will make ALL of you folks here sit up and take notice. I was Andrew Breitbart's staunchest supporter on his websites. I was at Big Government from day one forward, until their recent change.

Dana Loesch is one of the contributing reasons why I left. She is an idiot.

Hello Cowboy. Welcome. We all hope you go on to the second step.

31 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:26:18pm

OT

Iron Maiden continues to fucking rock.

Go back about your business.

32 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:28:45pm

the right wing's own insane clown posse!

33 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:28:50pm

OT 13 days until Diablo III is released!

34 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:32:04pm

re: #33 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

OT 13 days until Diablo III is released!

14 days till the 2 year anniversary of Ronnie James Dio's passing.

35 dragonfire1981  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:35:04pm

I have decided from this moment forth I shall be known as Walton Hightower and henceforth will be a Tea Party activist/conservative commentator.

I am giving myself the following qualifications:

- BA in History from Red Liberty College
- Former Vice chairman of the greater lowenfield Tea Party
- Associate Pastor at Mighty Heaven Church of the Redeemer
- A former Fox News source who only spoke anonymously to protect my security, since I have vast knowledge of top secret and confidential plans and programs initiated by the current administration
- And, the owner and sole proprietor of Patriot Security Services, in which capacity I assist individuals in preparing for terrorist threats, both foreign and domestic.

Of course none of this is true, but it doesn't matter because no one will care.

I'll make millions I tell ya, MILLIONS!

Now all I gotta do is get a Twitter account, start bashing Obama and wait for a phone call from Sean Hannity.

36 CowboyLogic  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:36:19pm

re: #28 Obdicut

They were not fraudulent.
I know that, and you know that, and the world knows that.

37 dragonfire1981  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:36:30pm

re: #27 CowboyLogic

Here is a factual statement that will make ALL of you folks here sit up and take notice. I was Andrew Breitbart's staunchest supporter on his websites. I was at Big Government from day one forward, until their recent change.

Dana Loesch is one of the contributing reasons why I left. She is an idiot.

Come on now, that's disrespectful to idiots!

38 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:37:00pm

Oh boy.

39 dragonfire1981  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:37:19pm
40 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:38:01pm

re: #36 CowboyLogic

They were not fraudulent.
I know that, and you know that, and the world knows that.

Oh dear.

41 Hawaii69  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:38:26pm

re: #4 Obdicut

It's amazing how obvious fakes like this can gain credibility in hard-core conservative circles. I guess it's because their brand of conservatism doesn't depend on having achieved anything, just about being an aggressive, anti-intellectual loudmouth.

No, it's becasue she's attractive. End of story. How popular do you think Dana Loesch would be if she were 5'5", 180#? Sarah Palin? They're both fodder for leghumpers. They take pride in putting those people out there (along with Rupert's Angels, of FOX news), and saying "look how hot OUR chicks are compared to Liberal chicks!"

42 CowboyLogic  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:39:12pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

No.
No second step.

This isn't a Twelve Step Program, at least for me it isn't.

Back in the day, years ago, I read this website a lot, before you all went over the edge. At one time, I had a decent opinion of it.

History repeats itself.
What we will witness Dana Loesch do to the Conservative Movement, is the same thing that happened here.

43 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:40:12pm

re: #42 CowboyLogic

and what happened here? Charles, stopped drinking the kool-aid long enough to wake up and see what was really going on?

44 wrenchwench  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:40:27pm

re: #42 CowboyLogic

What we will witness Dana Loesch do to the Conservative Movement, is the same thing that happened here.

What do you mean?

45 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:40:30pm

re: #41 Hawaii69

No, it's becasue she's attractive. End of story. How popular do you think Dana Loesch would be if she were 5'5", 180#? Sarah Palin? They're both fodder for leghumpers. They take pride in putting those people out there (along with Rupert's Angels, of FOX news), and saying "look how hot OUR chicks are compared to Liberal chicks!"

Tits or GTFO is no way to frame a political discussion.

46 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:40:31pm

re: #41 Hawaii69

No, it's becasue she's attractive. End of story. How popular do you think Dana Loesch would be if she were 5'5", 180#? Sarah Palin? They're both fodder for leghumpers. They take pride in putting those people out there (along with Rupert's Angels, of FOX news), and saying "look how hot OUR chicks are compared to Liberal chicks!"

Exactly, The Fox Women are so sexed-up it is difficult for me to have any respect for them. Most are intelligent and accomplished -- I just shake my head and say WHY?

I know, the $$$$$$.

47 Obdicut  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:40:44pm

re: #36 CowboyLogic

Yes, they were. They were edited, and in some places directly dubbed. This has been demonstrably proved, over and over.

While it's nice that you can see that Loesch is an asshole, being a fervent Breitbartarian is not really any better.

48 goddamnedfrank  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:41:47pm

re: #36 CowboyLogic

They were not fraudulent.
I know that, and you know that, and the world knows that.

Just as I thought, you're a wingnut, relying on raw assertion to ignore abundantly available facts. Those ACORN videos were very deceptively edited. So was the Sherrod video. Andrew Breitbart was an incredibly dishonest rage filled asshole, the fact that he was more competent at running his conglomeration of websites than Loesch and those who've taken over since his death doesn't alter any of that.

Stop raping people!

49 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:42:01pm

Yes, this is the Fox News Drone Deprogramming Blog.

It might be a fun afternoon afterall.

50 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:42:29pm

Looks like we're going to need a soundtrack for this thread...

51 dragonfire1981  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:42:59pm

re: #50 Kragar

Looks like we're going to need a soundtrack for this thread...

[Embedded content]

I was expecting "Entry of the Gladiators"

52 goddamnedfrank  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:43:21pm

My avatar is an upside down American flag. Won't somebody take me seriously?

53 Targetpractice  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:44:06pm

re: #50 Kragar

Looks like we're going to need a soundtrack for this thread...

[Embedded content]

Have to disagree.

54 Aye Pod  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:44:49pm

Data is checking out this thread

55 wrenchwench  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:44:55pm

re: #36 CowboyLogic

They were not fraudulent.
I know that, and you know that, and the world knows that.

I know several cowboys. Only the one who has been kicked in the head two or three times uses that kind of logic.

56 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:44:56pm
57 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:45:16pm

re: #42 CowboyLogic

History repeats itself.
What we will witness Dana Loesch do to the Conservative Movement, is the same thing that happened here.

I'm not entirely sure how you define what happened here--I have my own theories--but if it happens to the Conservative Movement (TM), it will not be Dana Loesch that made it happen. She's just along for the ride and the easy living.

58 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:45:49pm

re: #53 Targetpractice

Have to disagree.

[Embedded content]

I was sticking to a theme.

59 Decatur Deb  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:45:59pm

re: #42 CowboyLogic

No.
No second step.

This isn't a Twelve Step Program, at least for me it isn't.

Back in the day, years ago, I read this website a lot, before you all went over the edge. At one time, I had a decent opinion of it.

History repeats itself.
What we will witness Dana Loesch do to the Conservative Movement, is the same thing that happened here.

Glad you still read here. I read Freep daily during elections years, for probably the same reasons.

60 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:48:40pm

I wish I could stick around for the festivities, but my bi-monthly (it seems) migraine has arrived. I've been dealing with it all day and am tired.

I'm going to sleep.

Have fun all!

DON'T FORGET THE GARLIC.

61 Hawaii69  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:49:34pm

re: #36 CowboyLogic

They were not fraudulent.
I know that, and you know that, and the world knows that.

How about "Ridiculous, and highly misleading"? I don't know how you can stomach James O'keefe, but not Dana Loesch.

62 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:53:04pm

Bryan Fischer promises to make Romney his bitch for the rest of the campaign season

While the governor may be privately complaining about our public criticism, the bottom line here is that he has done the right thing, for whatever reasons, and the truth is that pro-family activists have done him a huge favor here. The Grenell hire was going to be problematic for the governor with the evangelical base, without which he cannot win, and the sooner he was shuck of this baggage the better.

Since Gov. Romney will do the right thing when it is politically expedient, it’s our job to make it politically expedient for him to do the right thing on as many issues as possible. Let’s get cracking.

63 Gus  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:53:10pm

Gilbert shooting leaves 5 people dead

A man armed with several firearms shot and killed four people, including a toddler, before committing suicide, Gilbert authorities said.

It's not immediately known the gender or ages of the victims, besides the youngest of the group, a girl between 1 and 2 years old, said Gilbert police Sgt. Bill Balafas...

What gun problem?

64 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:53:42pm

re: #61 Hawaii69

How about "Ridiculous, and highly misleading"? I don't know how you can stomach James O'keefe, but not Dana Loesch.

Closing his eyes and thinking of England?

65 goddamnedfrank  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:53:51pm

Dont' you get it? I'm saying the country is in a state of dire distress because of liberal socialism or something. I show the upside down flag as my symbol on the internet because I'm a very clever person who says things like "I know that, and you know that, and the world knows that."

Seriously, that's axiomatic, unassailable logic right there.

66 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:54:09pm

re: #44 wrenchwench

My flounce meter is starting to twitch.

67 CuriousLurker  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:54:25pm

re: #42 CowboyLogic

Back in the day, years ago, I read this website a lot, before you all went over the edge. At one time, I had a decent opinion of it.

Okay, my curiosity got the better of me. I've only been here two years, so when did everyone go over the edge, in your opinion? When was the last time you had a decent opinion of LGF?

68 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:54:59pm

re: #62 Kragar

I wonder how this will actually play out as the election nears since this guy's rhetoric is nearing Fred Phelps territory

69 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:55:34pm

re: #65 goddamnedfrank

Why do you people not discuss the imminent threat of secular-Islam more?!?

70 Targetpractice  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:56:11pm

re: #62 Kragar

Bryan Fischer promises to make Romney his bitch for the rest of the campaign season

That's alright, already heard a couple wingnuts sound off on this today, declaring this story means nothing because Grenell quit instead of being fired, thus it's not a bad reflection on Romney or the GOP.

I wish I had that sort of flexibility, able to turn oneself into a pretzel to avoid admitting the obvious truth.

71 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:56:12pm

re: #66 Bubblehead II

My flounce meter is starting to twitch.

Tell them about the twinkie.

72 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:56:13pm

re: #42 CowboyLogic

No.
No second step.

This isn't a Twelve Step Program, at least for me it isn't.

Back in the day, years ago, I read this website a lot, before you all went over the edge. At one time, I had a decent opinion of it.

History repeats itself.
What we will witness Dana Loesch do to the Conservative Movement, is the same thing that happened here.

Over the edge = not sucking GOP dick on everything

9/11 neverforget never forgettin'!

73 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:56:24pm

re: #62 Kragar

Bryan Fischer promises to make Romney his bitch for the rest of the campaign season

Can he be Fischer's and Norquist's bitch at the same time? Can they have joint custody?

74 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:56:47pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

That's alright, already heard a couple wingnuts sound off on this today, declaring this story means nothing because Grenell quit instead of being fired, thus it's not a bad reflection on Romney or the GOP.

I wish I had that sort of flexibility, able to turn oneself into a pretzel to avoid admitting the obvious truth.

There's going to be a WHOLE LOT of "this means nothing" coming up :D


this is very good news for John McCain

75 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:56:47pm

re: #73 Assemble!

Can he be Fischer's and Norquist's bitch at the same time? Can they have joint custody?

Spitroast time.

76 Targetpractice  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:56:56pm

re: #67 CuriousLurker

Okay, my curiosity got the better of me. I've only been here two years, so when did everyone go over the edge, in your opinion? When was the last time you had a decent opinion of LGF?

My guess would be around '08, before The Great Flouncing.

77 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:57:08pm

re: #73 Assemble!

Can he be Fischer's and Norquist's bitch at the same time? Can they have joint custody?

we call that a


well I really shouldn't say

78 Targetpractice  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:57:40pm

re: #75 Kragar

Spitroast time.

I'll be mailing you the bills for the hours of therapy I'm gonna need now.

//

79 STLActivist  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:58:02pm

re: #27 CowboyLogic

Thanks for stopping by. I'm a liberal, but many in my family are conservative and I remember the days when people could have honest debates about these issues. You are absolutely correct that the Loeschs are damaging for conservatism in general. In fact, many (most?) conservative activists in the St. Louis region have already come to that conclusion.

80 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:58:48pm

re: #71 Kragar

Tell them about the twinkie.

??? You lost me there.

81 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:58:56pm

re: #75 Kragar

Spitroast time.

mein gott...

82 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:58:58pm

re: #67 CuriousLurker

Okay, my curiosity got the better of me. I've only been here two years, so when did everyone go over the edge, in your opinion? When was the last time you had a decent opinion of LGF?

they went over the edge the moment they LET THE ENEMY MUSLIM INTO THE LGF FOLD HO HO HO MY FRIENDS I'M HERE BEHIND THE GOLDEN MICROPHONE now pause for these messages about reverse mortgages, herbal supplements, and divorce lawyers for men

^_^

83 CuriousLurker  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:59:22pm

re: #76 Targetpractice

My guess would be around '08, before The Great Flouncing.

Maybe. I'm curious though becuase most of the really hard core conservative were gone by the time I got here, and the stalkers just spew, so I've never gotten a chance to ask anyone directly.

84 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:59:23pm

re: #42 CowboyLogic

No.
No second step.

This isn't a Twelve Step Program, at least for me it isn't.

Back in the day, years ago, I read this website a lot, before you all went over the edge. At one time, I had a decent opinion of it.

History repeats itself.
What we will witness Dana Loesch do to the Conservative Movement, is the same thing that happened here.

Yeah, well, it's just a bit rude to say the blog went over the edge just because you disagree with the new politics. This is a mostly center-left/liberal blog, pretty much within mainstream. Breitbart was over the edge.

85 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:59:30pm

re: #80 Bubblehead II

??? You lost me there.

"Ugly little spud, isn't he Venkman?"

86 Decatur Deb  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:59:33pm

Going to stop bringing small, defenseless creatures to show-and-tell if you're going to play rough and hurt them.

87 jaunte  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:00:09pm

Dang. I completely missed the edge when we went over. Must have been in my bunk.

88 RexMundi  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:00:39pm

OT: Holy crap!

[Link: www.addictinginfo.org...]

89 Targetpractice  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:00:47pm

re: #87 jaunte

Dang. I completely missed the edge when we went over. Must have been in my bunk.

What, you didn't see the shark tank we went over?

//

90 tifosa  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:00:58pm

Setting up strawmen to rile the rabid right. What's new?

91 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:01:01pm

re: #80 Bubblehead II

??? You lost me there.

92 CuriousLurker  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:01:34pm

re: #82 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

they went over the edge the moment they LET THE ENEMY MUSLIM INTO THE LGF FOLD HO HO HO MY FRIENDS I'M HERE BEHIND THE GOLDEN MICROPHONE now pause for these messages about reverse mortgages, herbal supplements, and divorce lawyers for men

^_^

Well, somebody's gotta the the bogeymen. If I'm "it" that's okay. I've kinda gotten used to it, heh.

93 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:02:00pm

re: #88 RexMundi

OT: Holy crap!

[Link: www.addictinginfo.org...]

That's not true. It's Puerto Ricans who always have knives on them...

///

94 jaunte  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:02:06pm

As I recall it, the edge busted out the window and moved to Overtonville.

95 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:02:42pm

re: #92 CuriousLurker

Well, somebody's gotta the the bogeymen. If I'm "it" that's okay. I've kinda gotten used to it, heh.

You can hide out in my closet any time, CL.

96 CuriousLurker  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:03:12pm

re: #95 Assemble!

You can hide out in my closet any time, CL.

Thanks! ;)

97 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:03:19pm

re: #85 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

Something to do with ghost Busters and the Stay Puff Marshmallow man scene I presume? Kinda thick today, for day of vacation and all that.

98 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:07:54pm
99 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:08:18pm

re: #87 jaunte

Dang. I completely missed the edge when we went over. Must have been in my bunk.

It was the one that we went over when we decided we didn't want to swim in the same sewage ponds as JW,AS and GoV. Besides, it wasn't much of an edge. more of a moderate, but very bumpy incline.

100 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:08:52pm
Paramedics took him to a hospital where he was treated for cramps, dehydration, a perforated esophagus (from swallowing a glass shard) and kidney failure, his lawyer said.

Chong was not going to be charged with a crime and should have been released, said a law enforcement official who was briefed on the DEA case and spoke on the condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak about the ongoing investigation.

Chong spent three days in intensive care and five total at the hospital before leaving Sunday.

"The DEA's answer to this is: `Oh, we forgot about him. I'm sorry,'" Iredale said.

101 goddamnedfrank  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:09:00pm

re: #79 STLActivist

In fact, many (most?) conservative activists in the St. Louis region have already come to that conclusion.

Those Rinos should just STOP RAPING PEOPLE and get on the Brain Train with the rest of us very clever true american conservative patriots.

When Andrew Breitbart was alive he kept Dana Loesch in line as just another typical necrophiliac with a water sports fetish. But now that he's dead she's become a total wack-a-doo! AMIRIGHT?

102 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:11:45pm

re: #98 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

Good job DEA, almost let a guy starve to death in jail, golf clap

If that's what winning the War on Drugs looks like, I'd rather lose it...

103 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:12:42pm

re: #69 Assemble!

Why do you people not discuss the imminent threat of secular-Islam more?!?

No bull received from the Atheist-Pope to do so yet. Of course.
//

104 CuriousLurker  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:19:35pm

re: #67 CuriousLurker

Okay, my curiosity got the better of me. I've only been here two years, so when did everyone go over the edge, in your opinion? When was the last time you had a decent opinion of LGF?

Hmm, looks like I'm not gonna get a response. Oh, well. *shrugs*

The UPS guy just brought my new carton of Indian incense and it smells wonderful, so I guess I'll go open the package and burn some.

What a typical hippy libtard I am, huh? I even have some patchouli oil and bake my own granola bars. Disgusting, I know. // LOL

105 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:20:24pm

re: #87 jaunte

Dang. I completely missed the edge when we went over. Must have been in my bunk.

I was in a tour bus with Al Jarreau once when the driver stopped by the side of the road in Florida, on Alligator Alley, in the middle of the night to take a leak. Thing is, he forgot to put on the emergency brake, and it was on a slight hill. The bus actually started to roll when he noticed and yelled "OH SHIT," ran back to his seat and got to the brakes just in time.

Would have been interesting because we were right next to the water there, supposedly full of gators. The headline would have been: "Entire Al Jarreau Band Eaten Alive by Alligators."

106 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:20:45pm

Speaking of going over the edge. Ahem.

107 wrenchwench  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:20:53pm

re: #104 CuriousLurker

What a typical hippy libtard I am, huh? I even have some patchouli oil and bake my own granola bars. Disgusting, I know. // LOL

Well, the patchouli oil is, but I like granola bars!

108 CuriousLurker  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:21:29pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

YIKES! O_o

109 wrenchwench  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:22:10pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

I was in a tour bus with Al Jarreau once when the driver stopped by the side of the road in Florida, on Alligator Alley, in the middle of the night to take a leak. Thing is, he forgot to put on the emergency brake, and it was on a slight hill. The bus actually started to roll when he noticed and yelled "OH SHIT," ran back to his seat and got to the brakes just in time.

Would have been interesting because we were right next to the water there, supposedly full of gators. The headline would have been: "Entire Al Jarreau Band Eaten Alive by Gators."

Was this before or during the 'bus plunge story' fascination?

110 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:22:16pm

Actually I think I'd edit that headline to: "Entire Al Jarreau Band Eaten Alive by Alligators in Horrifying Bus Plunge"

111 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:22:24pm

Okay this is fantastic :D


Watch it until the end ( a few seconds) +1 Shep

112 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:23:05pm

re: #104 CuriousLurker

That's because like the typical troll, it came in, left a couple of turds on the floor and then ran off when called out.

Karma: 6


CowboyLogic
Registered since: Mar 29, 2012 at 2:22 pm
No. of comments posted: 8
No. of Pages posted: 0

113 CuriousLurker  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:23:43pm

re: #107 wrenchwench

Well, the patchouli oil is, but I like granola bars!

Heh, yeah patchouli is one of those love it/hate things. One of my cats hates it. She get upset if you even show her the bottle.

I just started making my own granola bars last month. They taste wayyy better than the store bought ones.

114 Digital Display  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:23:53pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

Actually I think I'd edit that headline to: "Entire Al Jarreau Band Eaten Alive by Alligators in Horrifying Bus Plunge"

Que music...Hotwire.com!

115 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:24:25pm

re: #42 CowboyLogic

Man, that's a huge steaming pile of BS you left right there.

116 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:24:39pm

re: #114 HoosierHoops

Que music...Hotwire.com!

No no no. That one needs the Travelocity gnome.

117 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:25:33pm

re: #36 CowboyLogic

Now I know you're full of shit.

118 Obdicut  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:26:16pm

Goddamn this brisket I'm making smells delicious. only two and a half hours to go.

119 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:26:52pm

re: #118 Obdicut

Goddamn this brisket I'm making smells delicious. only two and a half hours to go.

ASSHOLE!

120 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:27:08pm

That bus driver went home the next day. Tour manager was not pleased. Too bad, he was a great guy to hang with, but boy did he ever screw up. People could have been killed for real.

121 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:28:24pm

re: #118 Obdicut

Goddamn this brisket I'm making smells delicious. only two and a half hours to go.

Doing spaghetti and Texas Toast tonight.

(See LGF Cookbook Vol.2 for basic ingredients.)

122 CuriousLurker  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:33:53pm

Here...*hums kumbaya while passing out sticks of incense & granola bars, keeps patchouli oil far away from wrenchwench*

Wait. Where's KT? Do you think he'll be willing to lead the drum circle for us?

123 blueraven  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:34:08pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

That bus driver went home the next day. Tour manager was not pleased. Too bad, he was a great guy to hang with, but boy did he ever screw up. People could have been killed for real.

Pee brain.
/

124 wrenchwench  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:34:28pm

re: #118 Obdicut

Goddamn this brisket I'm making smells delicious. only two and a half hours to go.

It's been in for about a week, hasn't it? Or is this a different brisket?

125 Obdicut  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:34:59pm

re: #124 wrenchwench

It's been in for about a week, hasn't it? Or is this a different brisket?

Heh. Different one. I bought two three pound cuts. This is the second one.

Most of it is going to go to feed my wife's classmates.

126 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:35:49pm

Water Guns Banned, Handguns Allowed at GOP Convention

In the politically-charged and likely protest-filled streets of Tampa, Fla., during the Republican National Convention in August, water guns will be strictly prohibited. Concealed handguns, on the other hand, will be perfectly legal.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott said this week that banning handguns from downtown Tampa during the convention, as the city's Mayor Bob Buckhorn requested, "would surely violate the Second Amendment."

"It is unclear how disarming law-abiding citizens would better protect them from the dangers and threats posed by those who would flout the law," Scott said in a letter to Buckhorn Tuesday, emphasizing the words "law-abiding." "It is at just such times that the constitutional right of self defense is most precious and must be protected from government overreach."

127 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:37:03pm

re: #122 CuriousLurker

Here...*hums kumbaya while passing out sticks of incense & granola bars, keeps patchouli oil far away from wrenchwench*

Wait. Where's KT? Do you think he'll be willing to lead the drum circle for us?

Fat chance. I'll be hanging out by the hookah listening to sitar music.

128 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:37:19pm

re: #126 Kragar

If Maddow is right, and Ron Paul supporters are packing the convention delegations then things could get really interesting...

129 CuriousLurker  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:38:29pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

Fat chance. I'll be hanging out by the hookah listening to sitar music.

Hahahaha!

130 Digital Display  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:39:10pm

re: #118 Obdicut

Goddamn this brisket I'm making smells delicious. only two and a half hours to go.

I hate you! *wink*
It's the NBA Play-offs tonight..Winston and I are going all in with Turkey..I like making the world's largest Turkey sandwich's and stupid sized salads..
A few thoughts..Planning on a trip to the Lake house this month. I haven't been there in years. Jeez..Time is speeding up..I'm going to be living there.. I'm getting pretty excited and planning is underway..

131 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:39:45pm

re: #126 Kragar

Water Guns Banned, Handguns Allowed at GOP Convention

Since when doesn't the 2nd protect my right to roam around with a Super Soaker full of hydrochloric acid?

132 erik_t  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:41:38pm

re: #126 Kragar

Water Guns Banned, Handguns Allowed at GOP Convention

I never am quite sure when Governor Skeletor is being honest and when he's pulling our collective leg.

133 Gus  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:42:10pm

re: #126 Kragar

Water Guns Banned, Handguns Allowed at GOP Convention

Pfft. Water is just a theory.

//

134 wrenchwench  Wed, May 2, 2012 3:45:33pm

Had a British couple in here about a half hour ago. She mentioned this ad when she saw the tandem on the floor. She said the last line is what "everyone says when they see a tandem". She didn't say the ad was from 1971!

135 Digital Display  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:00:28pm

Cont..Thoughts before game time..
I may open a Twitter account..You guys are having to much fun over there.
Plus who doesn't want to know what Megan Fox had for lunch?
I got invited back to the Huge Oklahoma BBQ for the Saturday's Basketball game..I had a blast last Sunday..They sure know how to lay out a spread in Oklahoma and people here are pretty awesome.

136 Targetpractice  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:14:48pm

*coughs*

137 wrenchwench  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:17:33pm

re: #136 Targetpractice

*coughs*

People are just watching that ad over and over...

138 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:17:40pm

re: #126 Kragar

Water Guns Banned, Handguns Allowed at GOP Convention

Is he saying that the 2nd amendment doesn't cover water pistols?

139 Gus  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:17:43pm

re: #136 Targetpractice

*coughs*

**hacks up loogie**

140 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:18:14pm

re: #134 wrenchwench

Had a British couple in here about a half hour ago. She mentioned this ad when she saw the tandem on the floor. She said the last line is what "everyone says when they see a tandem". She didn't say the ad was from 1971!

[Embedded content]

That's not what the chimps are really saying. They're really saying "Get us outa these stupid human clothes before we rip your fuckin face off!"

141 wrenchwench  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:19:15pm

re: #140 Learned Mother of Zion

That's not what the chimps are really saying. They're really saying "Get us outa these stupid human clothes before we rip your fuckin face off!"

"And get me a better bicycle!"

142 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:25:11pm

re: #139 Gus

**hacks up loogie**

Dinner time already?

143 Gus  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:25:57pm

re: #142 sattv4u2

Dinner time already?

With a garlic after taste.

144 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:26:18pm

re: #135 HoosierHoops

who doesn't want to know what Megan Fox had for lunch

umm,, ME ,,

(or anyone else besides Megan, for that matter)

145 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:26:29pm

re: #143 Gus

With a garlic after taste.

{burp}

146 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:27:45pm

re: #130 HoosierHoops

It's the NBA Play-offs tonight..Winston and I are going all in with Turkey

I didn't know Turkey made the playoffs!

I'll stick with the Thunder and Celtics, though

147 STLActivist  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:28:46pm

Obviously I don't agree with CowboyLogic's assessment of LGF, but I will say that I think his story is legit. When Breitbart.com switched over to the new format, there was one discussion threat where basically everyone was talking about how much the new site sucked. 99% sure I remember CowboyLogic on there talking about how much he disliked the new design, and how the editors weren't listening to his complaints.

Of course, that doesn't make the ACORN tapes true..

148 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:31:04pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

Fat chance. I'll be hanging out by the hookah listening to sitar music.

Is there room enough for me, or will I have to Standar?

149 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:32:50pm

re: #148 sattv4u2

Is there room enough for me, or will I have to Standar?

There's enough room around the tabla

150 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:33:18pm

re: #121 Bubblehead II

Doing spaghetti and Texas Toast tonight.

(See LGF Cookbook Vol.2 for basic ingredients.)

Lemme guess

umm,,,, spaghetti,,, large pieces of toast!!
/

151 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:34:22pm

re: #149 Killgore Trout

There's enough room around the tabla

I just got one of those kind of Dell notebooks!!

152 blueraven  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:51:54pm

re: #147 STLActivist

Obviously I don't agree with CowboyLogic's assessment of LGF, but I will say that I think his story is legit. When Breitbart.com switched over to the new format, there was one discussion threat where basically everyone was talking about how much the new site sucked. 99% sure I remember CowboyLogic on there talking about how much he disliked the new design, and how the editors weren't listening to his complaints.

Of course, that doesn't make the ACORN tapes true..

Yeah, I think his story is true. I just dont understand why someone would want to join another blog and then insult everyone there.

Its one thing to not agree on certain posts, or with certain people, but he just threw out a mile wide insult.

153 Gus  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:53:14pm

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154 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:53:56pm

re: #152 blueraven

Yeah, I think his story is true. I just dont understand why someone would want to join another blog and then insult everyone there.

Its one thing to not agree on certain posts, or with certain people, but he just threw out a mile wide insult.

Yeah, at least get to know people first before you start insulting them so you can at least make them really personal and accurate.

155 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:54:39pm

re: #154 Kragar

Yeah, at least get to know people first before you start insulting them so you can at least make them really personal and accurate.

Yeah. No fun trying to push buttons if you don't know where the buttons are.

156 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:55:05pm

bbiaw. Taking the Wife out for her fist scooter to the store. This should be interesting.

157 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:55:28pm

re: #156 Bubblehead II

Pencil button. Right now.

158 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:56:16pm

re: #154 Kragar

Yeah, at least get to know people first before you start insulting them so you can at least make them really personal and accurate.

159 Talking Point Detective  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:58:37pm

Pardon me if this has already been linked (I imagine it has been):

Rightwing extremism? What rightwing extremism?

Armored gunman, 4 people dead in Arizona shooting

J. T. Ready, a neo-Nazi and member of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, was among the dead. It is still unclear what role he played in the shootings, although sources told azcentral.com that he was the shooter.

[...]

Law enforcement agents had been nervous about Ready, according to a 2010 story by the Associated Press, not just because he led a militia group that watched for immigrants crossing illegally into the United States, but because he was heavily armed and a self-proclaimed neo-Nazi.

usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/02/11507220-armored-gunman-4-people-dead-in-arizona-shooting?lite

160 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 4:58:54pm

re: #158 sattv4u2

[Embedded content]

There are exceptions to every rule.

161 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:01:30pm

re: #160 Kragar

There are exceptions to every rule.

Sadly, it often results in more rules for the exceptions!

162 Gus  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:02:25pm

Testing.

[Link: a860-nycma.nyc.gov...]

163 wrenchwench  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:03:19pm

re: #159 Talking Point Detective

Pardon me if this has already been linked (I imagine it has been):

Rightwing extremism? What rightwing extremism?

usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/02/11507220-armored-gunman-4-people-dead-in-arizona-shooting?lite

I was just Paging that. I think you were the first with the JT Ready link.

164 Gus  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:03:24pm

re: #162 Gus

Testing.

[Link: a860-nycma.nyc.gov...]

Collection:
DEG: DeGregario Collection
Identifier:
deg_26
Title:
Worth Street and Baxter Street [Five Points]
Subject:
Street Scenes
Subject:
Five Points
Description:
Boys roller skating. One-story house, tenements. "A. Goldber, Clothier" on corner.
Date:
1880-1899
Type:
Image
Format:
Lantern Slide
Format:
3 1/4 by 4 inches
Source:
Private donation from Mr. & Mrs. Felice DeGregario
Coverage:
New York
Notes:
Lantern slide collection probably originated with the New York Camera Club. All listed photographers were members.

165 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:03:43pm

re: #162 Gus

Testing.

[Link: a860-nycma.nyc.gov...]

heh..... looks like my old neighborhood

166 makeitstop  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:04:22pm

re: #159 Talking Point Detective

Pardon me if this has already been linked (I imagine it has been):

Rightwing extremism? What rightwing extremism?

usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/02/11507220-armored-gunman-4-people-dead-in-arizona-shooting?lite

That J.T. Ready guy was a pretty big deal in the neo-Nazi world, no? I know I've seen his name before.

167 Gus  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:04:28pm

re: #165 sattv4u2

heh... looks like my old neighborhood

Main link is at #153. Lots of cool stuff there. Including videos, audio, etc.

168 Talking Point Detective  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:08:28pm

re: #163 wrenchwench

I was just Paging that. I think you were the first with the JT Ready link.

It's going to be interesting to see how the rightwing spins this one. I guessing that according to them, he died a hero.

169 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:09:26pm

re: #159 Talking Point Detective

At 1st glance, this has the look of a domestic dispute murder/ suicide

,,,,killed four people, including a toddler, on Wednesday in Gilbert, Ariz., authorities told azcentral.com. He then killed himself.

170 Talking Point Detective  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:09:39pm

re: #167 Gus

Main link is at #153. Lots of cool stuff there. Including videos, audio, etc.

That site went down the other day because of overwhelming hits - is it running smoothly now?

171 Gus  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:10:18pm

re: #170 Talking Point Detective

That site went down the other day because of overwhelming hits - is it running smoothly now?

Yep. Been checking it and it finally went on line again today.

172 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:10:19pm

re: #166 makeitstop

That J.T. Ready guy was a pretty big deal in the neo-Nazi world, no? I know I've seen his name before.

Jason "J.T." Ready, 34

A member of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps as well as the founder of the prominent, Arizona-based nativist extremist organization Americans First, Jason "J.T." Ready advocates deadly force to stop Mexicans from crossing the U.S. border illegally. "I firmly believe in having a minefield across the border," he says in a widely distributed video. "This is 100% effective."

The past president of the Mesa Community College Republican Club and current Maricopa County Republican precinct committeeman, Ready is deeply involved in mainstream conservative politics. He's also an outright neo-Nazi. Ready spoke at a rally put on by the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement in Omaha, Neb., last September (where he was billed as an "Arizona Republican activist") and appeared at the neo-Nazi National Vanguard's "Winterfest" gathering in Phoenix last December. He regularly posts to white nationalist online forums, including NewSaxon, where last December he offered this charming observation on the root causes of illegal immigration: "The truth is that negroids screw monkeys and rape babies in afreaka [sic]. Then stupid white man who licks kosher jew rear lets negroids in. … Stop Negroid immigration and integration now!!! Nature will take care of the rest."
Ready.

In 2006, Ready ran for Mesa City Council. He made headlines that March when he fired a pistol at a Latino man armed with a BB gun. Later, his campaign derailed when, shortly after Ready volunteered to act as master of ceremonies at the Mesa Veteran's Day parade, it came to light that Ready had been court-martialed and drummed out of the Marines.

173 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:10:55pm

people who think they're going to self-police the border are diseased and dangerous animals

174 Talking Point Detective  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:11:02pm

re: #169 sattv4u2

At 1st glance, this has the look of a domestic dispute murder/ suicide

,,,killed four people, including a toddler, on Wednesday in Gilbert, Ariz., authorities told azcentral.com. He then killed himself.

Now that would be tough to spin.

This is far from the first incidence of homicidal violence involving the minutemen - yet they remain heroes for many rightwingers.

175 Gus  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:13:29pm

[Link: a860-nycma.nyc.gov...]

Description: Lincoln Hospital: Ward 4B Female Surgery. In theory, capacity is 31, actually 56. Overcrowding is horrendous.
Date: 1947-1949

176 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:14:04pm

re: #174 Talking Point Detective

Now that would be tough to spin.

This is far from the first incidence of homicidal violence involving the minutemen - yet they remain heroes for many rightwingers.

How would it be a "tough spin" if among the dead and the one that survived were an ex wife/ girlfreind?

I'm not in any way shape or form defending this whack job, and as posted, he has a long history of BEING a whack job

But as stated, with a dead toddler AND him targeting a specific home and committing suicide at the end, it does look/ smell to me as a domestic murder/ suicide

177 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:14:42pm

re: #172 Kragar

Jason "J.T." Ready advocates deadly force to stop Mexicans from crossing the U.S. border illegally.

This is the republican party

You want to see the Republican party in a few years if its base is allowed to control it? Greece's Golden Dawn

178 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:15:52pm

re: #174 Talking Point Detective

Now that would be tough to spin.

This is far from the first incidence of homicidal violence involving the minutemen - yet they remain heroes for many rightwingers.

hatred of immigrants unites the republican party

179 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:17:03pm

re: #159 Talking Point Detective

Pardon me if this has already been linked (I imagine it has been):

Rightwing extremism? What rightwing extremism?

usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/02/11507220-armored-gunman-4-people-dead-in-arizona-shooting?lite

OMG, never saw this coming from that idiot!

180 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:18:46pm

there is almost no daylight between the anti-immigrant rhetoric of mainstream republicans in media, and the actions of border vigilantes


the difference between a neo-nazi and an anti-immigrant republican politican is working class versus elite. Same ideas, same rhetoric, the neo-nazi is the unstable foot soldier, the republican elite controls the dialogue

181 gwangung  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:18:57pm

re: #174 Talking Point Detective

Now that would be tough to spin.

This is far from the first incidence of homicidal violence involving the minutemen - yet they remain heroes for many rightwingers.

Feature, not bug.

182 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:19:54pm

Border militia leader identified as shooter

A border militia leader on Wednesday shot and killed four people at a Gilbert home, including a toddler, before committing suicide, sources said.

Sources identified the shooter as Jason “J.T.” Ready, a reputed neo-Nazi who made headlines when he launched a militia movement to patrol the Arizona desert to hunt for illegal immigrants and drug smugglers.

Ready was a former Marine who headed the the U.S. Border Guard, a militia-style group that routinely performed armed patrols in the southern Arizona desert.

At least one person survived the shooting.

It’s not immediately known the gender or ages of the other victims, besides the youngest of the group, a girl between 1 and 2 years old, said Gilbert police Sgt. Bill Balafas. The survivor was being treated at Maricopa Medical Center.

The gunman’s motives also is unknown. Authorities recovered two handguns and a shotgun from the scene, Balafas said.

183 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:20:21pm

re: #168 Talking Point Detective

It's going to be interesting to see how the rightwing spins this one. I guessing that according to them, he died a hero.

He killed a baby. They had better not.

184 Gus  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:20:34pm

Whoa. You can see some real graphic photos if you search for redrum.

185 Talking Point Detective  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:20:52pm

re: #176 sattv4u2

How would it be a "tough spin" if among the dead and the one that survived were an ex wife/ girlfreind?

I'm not in any way shape or form defending this whack job, and as posted, he has a long history of BEING a whack job

But as stated, with a dead toddler AND him targeting a specific home and committing suicide at the end, it does look/ smell to me as a domestic murder/ suicide

Looks like this guy is pretty active in the rightwing which lauds the Minutemen as heroes.

My point is that this being domestic violence just underscores the violent extremism and instability of the Minuteman.

Previous violence involving Minutemen has been spun away.

186 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:21:08pm

re: #183 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

He killed a baby. They had better not.

For those subhuman sacks of shit, it will depend on the race of the baby.

187 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:25:27pm

re: #184 Gus

Whoa. You can see some real graphic photos if you search for redrum.

I prefer Tommy Bahama White Sand brewed in Barbados or Wray & Nephew White Overproof from Jamaica !!

/

188 Gus  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:29:19pm

1900-1920... Talk about squalor.

189 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:34:31pm

Pigfucking nazi shot his own family

In what may be a quadruple murder-suicide, JT Ready shot and killed his girlfriend, 47-year-old Lisa Mederos, Lisa's daughter 22-year-old Amber Mederos, Amber's 22-year-old boyfriend Jim, and Amber's 2-year-old daughter Lilly.

Amber Mederos has been listed as a treasurer with the JT Ready for Sheriff campaign.

Ready is dead, but it's not clear whether the wound was self-inflicted, "as there is multiple weapons on scene," an official said.

Lilly was found still alive, but she died at the hospital.

We've learned another daughter of Lisa's, a 19-year-old, is alive and witnessed the events. She is being interviewed at this time.

And the comments are fucking disgusting.

190 Gus  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:41:26pm

re: #189 Kragar

Pigfucking nazi shot his own family

And the comments are fucking disgusting.

Image: 4808938959_cc4f8dfbd6.jpg

JT Ready on the left.

192 Kragar  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:43:12pm

And the conspiracists are already working to enshrine that scumball.

193 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:45:38pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

The agents mobilized Azir after receiving “an initial report of potential criminal activity and threats involving anarchists who would be attending” the “Occupy” event.

That suggests that the tip came from local police monitoring Occupy or from an Occupier.

194 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:47:54pm

re: #185 Talking Point Detective

My point is that this being domestic violence just underscores the violent extremism and instability of the Minuteman

And my point was that this had all the earmarks of a domestic murder/ suicide, which comes (unfortunately) in all shapes, colors, sizes and political spectra.

195 Gus  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:47:59pm

J.T. Ready

Related Articles and Blog Posts
Jason “J.T.” Ready Revives New Saxon, Popular White-Supremacist Social Networking Site (2007)
Date of Birth: 1973
Date of Death: 2012
Location: Mesa, AZ
Ideology: Neo-Nazi

J.T. (Jason Todd) Ready, a former member of the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement, specializes in bashing immigrants. After being court-martialed twice, Ready was discharged from the Marines for bad conduct in 1996. Ready, who has run for various Arizona offices usually without success, advocates for the placement of landmines on the border and rails against Jews and nonwhites. In June 2010, Ready led a group of armed extremists into the Arizona desert to apprehend immigrants and drug smugglers...

196 Shvaughn  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:50:36pm

re: #159 Talking Point Detective

Pardon me if this has already been linked (I imagine it has been):

Rightwing extremism? What rightwing extremism?

usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/02/11507220-armored-gunman-4-people-dead-in-arizona-shooting?lite

Woah, JT Ready! That fascist prick!

197 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:55:42pm

re: #189 Kragar

Pigfucking nazi shot his own family

And the comments are fucking disgusting.

So he left a 19 year old alive for some reason after killing a young adult a woman and a baby, then killed himself?

There is absolutely no real consolation for watching your whole family get murdered. But I hope that it was the 19 year old that blew his ass away and it gives her some strength to deal with this horror.

198 Talking Point Detective  Wed, May 2, 2012 5:58:20pm

re: #194 sattv4u2

... which comes (unfortunately) in all shapes, colors, sizes and political spectra.

No doubt.

But the odds are increased when you add rightwing extremism, nativism, obsession with weapons, and proclivity towards violence, into the mix.

In other words, rightwing heroes like the Minutemen.

199 smashin grab  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:04:32pm

its always been easy to swindle a certain segment of the american public, the xtian mega shills do it all the time. there is an old documentary from the 70's called marjoe, about a guy who's parents made him into a little preacher, and when he grew up he did this film to show how easy it was to pull the wool over the eyes of these same sheeple.... drudge [ who is a middle class jew] plays them too.

i do enjoy your tweets, as the battle is just starting.... keep it up. you got people like me who have your back.

200 Shvaughn  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:06:11pm

Oh, LOL, Dim Hoff tried to make like JT Ready was an Occupy dude last year.

OCCUPY ACTIVIST KILLS FAMILY OF FOUR //

201 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:11:48pm

re: #176 sattv4u2

How would it be a "tough spin" if among the dead and the one that survived were an ex wife/ girlfreind?

I'm not in any way shape or form defending this whack job, and as posted, he has a long history of BEING a whack job

But as stated, with a dead toddler AND him targeting a specific home and committing suicide at the end, it does look/ smell to me as a domestic murder/ suicide

Which doesn't surprise me in the slighest--these guys are angry, overarmed, and don't respond well to reality checks. Their mental state leads well to murder-suicide freakouts.

But domestic violence is still a different kettle of fish from domestic terrorism, which would have been the first thing I'd have expected from GDF J.T. Ready.

202 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:12:46pm

re: #201 SanFranciscoZionist

domestic violence is still a different kettle of fish from domestic terrorism

That it is,, that it is

203 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:17:26pm

re: #194 sattv4u2

My point is that this being domestic violence just underscores the violent extremism and instability of the Minuteman

And my point was that this had all the earmarks of a domestic murder/ suicide, which comes (unfortunately) in all shapes, colors, sizes and political spectra.

True enough, but I would have put this particular guy high on a list of scumbags who were gonna kill someone (with a high probability of someone including women and children) some fine day.

And lo and behold, he does not disappoint.

204 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:19:16pm

re: #157 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Pencil button. Right now.

Too late. should have been scooter ride. She actually did very well.

For those of you who don't know, I am talking about one of these.

I got her one for our 28th anniversary/her 56th birthday.

She has the same complaint I do. The seat is a fucking brick (besides no suspension).

205 Kronocide  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:22:02pm

re: #36 CowboyLogic

They were not fraudulent.
I know that, and you know that, and the world knows that.

What world is that again? Bizzaro World?

206 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:23:45pm

re: #204 Bubblehead II

Too late. should have been scooter ride. She actually did very well.

For those of you who don't know, I am talking about one of these.

I got her one for our 28th anniversary/her 56th birthday.

She has the same complaint I do. The seat is a fucking brick (besides no suspension).

Christmas present

Image: silk-pillow.jpg

207 sattv4u2  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:24:13pm

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

208 Talking Point Detective  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:24:22pm

re: #176 sattv4u2


re: #200 Shvaughn

Oh, LOL, Dim Hoff tried to make like JT Ready was an Occupy dude last year.

OCCUPY ACTIVIST KILLS FAMILY OF FOUR //

And there you go: the rightwing did try to spin it.

209 Shvaughn  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:25:04pm
210 Shvaughn  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:26:21pm

re: #208 Talking Point Detective

re: #200 Shvaughn

And there you go: the rightwing did try to spin it.

Media Matters pointed out last year that JT Ready was involved in Tea Party rallies including as a 4th of July speaker.

211 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:28:15pm
212 Shvaughn  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:31:59pm

re: #211 SanFranciscoZionist

Of course they are.

One of Ready's supporters:

Kathy Bambi Khoury ‎@Boomer and Wendy, IT WAS A SET UP!!!!! JT WOULD NEVER KILL A CHILD OR HIS FRIENDS!!
YOU PEOPLE ARE STUPID AND MAY YOU BURN IN HELL!!! IT WAS THE ZOG....DUH!!

Yeah, the ZOG, of course.

213 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:32:04pm

re: #206 sattv4u2

Wouldn't fit. She is already thinking about additional padding that she can make. Given her talent with knitting, crocheting, and sewing in general, I have high hopes she will come up with something for both of us.

Her first statement when we got home. MOVE! I have to pee. Like I said, no padding and no suspension. LMAO! She WAS warned.

214 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:47:04pm

re: #212 Shvaughn

One of Ready's supporters:

Yeah, the ZOG, of course.

We've got to figure out a way to get these guys to start their murder-suicide plans with the suicide.

215 Mentis Fugit  Wed, May 2, 2012 6:51:28pm

re: #212 Shvaughn

One of Ready's supporters:

Yeah, the ZOG, of course.

BUT ZOG'S BEEN DEAD FOR DECADES!

216 Stephen T.  Thu, May 3, 2012 6:42:08am

re: #22 Decatur Deb

Been babysitting the 20-month-old for three days. He loves Chicken McNuggets. We went out to the museum/farm today to see the chickens. Let mom explain that.

There is nothing wrong with teaching children where their food comes from.

217 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Thu, May 3, 2012 9:48:44am

re: #42 CowboyLogic

No.
No second step.

This isn't a Twelve Step Program, at least for me it isn't.

Back in the day, years ago, I read this website a lot, before you all went over the edge. At one time, I had a decent opinion of it.

History repeats itself.
What we will witness Dana Loesch do to the Conservative Movement, is the same thing that happened here.

Hardly. Dana Loesch is a career opportunist. Charles learned and changed his view accordingly (and he didn't exactly gain any popularity through that). One is not like the other.


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