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The Tale of the Obsessed Sperm-Donating Alabama Gubernatorial Candidate

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Former Alabama GOP gubernatorial candidate Bill Johnson has left his wife and family and moved to New Zealand, where he’ll be free to donate as much sperm as he wants.

Bill Johnson, a former Alabama gubernatorial candidate, has left his wife and family in Prattville to be with babies he secretly conceived as a sperm donor in New Zealand.

Johnson’s wife, Kathy Hale Johnson, told the New Zealand Herald that Johnson recently returned to live in New Zealand where he donated sperm to at least 10 women without her knowledge.

“He wants me to move over there. He’s not coming back,” she said told the newspaper.

She said Johnson plans to apply for residency so he can stay in New Zealand, and that he intends to donate sperm to additional women.

“He is obsessed with this. He doesn’t want to stop,” she said.

Bill Johnson ran, of course, as a “family values” candidate. Big, big families. Several of them.

Johnson, 52, finished fifth among a field of seven candidates for governor in the 2010 GOP primary, capturing less than 2 percent of the vote. He ran as a conservative Christian who opposed gay marriage.

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204 comments

1 Randall Gross  Sat, May 5, 2012 1:58:48pm

Didn't Law and Order do an episode on someone like this guy?

2 [deleted]  Sat, May 5, 2012 1:59:22pm
3 erik_t  Sat, May 5, 2012 1:59:35pm

'Donating sperm'? Is that what we're calling it?

4 Lidane  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:01:08pm

That's one way to be fruitful and multiply.

5 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:01:51pm

re: #4 Lidane

That's one way to be fruitful and multiply.

Thats a fap, er.. fact.

6 SpaceJesus  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:02:09pm

I'm pretty sure this is the exact plot to Mike Judge's film Idiocracy

7 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:02:35pm

Narcissist defined.

8 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:03:10pm

He was not the weirdest, most dangerous, of our gubernatorial candidates.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

9 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:05:15pm

New Zealand is a pretty nice place, I hear.

10 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:05:59pm

re: #1 Randall Gross

Didn't Law and Order do an episode on someone like this guy?

Probably. There are a number of them out there. It seems to be addictive for some men.

11 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:06:21pm

re: #9 freetoken

New Zealand is a pretty nice place, I hear.

Hobbity.

12 Randall Gross  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:10:03pm

re: #10 SanFranciscoZionist

Probably. There are a number of them out there. It seems to be addictive for some men.

I just don't get it, we are all pretty much the same in ancestry anyway, and people who write, paint, sculpt, compose, discover, study, build, and create will contribute to and influence the future much more than this guy ever will trying his selfish germ plasm ploy.

13 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:10:44pm

If you don't break up your marriage for it, I suppose there's no real harm in it.

14 Randall Gross  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:11:18pm

re: #13 SanFranciscoZionist

If you don't break up your marriage for it, I suppose there's no real harm in it.

Family Values!

15 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:11:35pm

re: #12 Randall Gross

I just don't get it, we are all pretty much the same in ancestry anyway, and people who write, paint, sculpt, compose, discover, study, build, and create will contribute to and influence the future much more than this guy ever will trying his selfish germ plasm ploy.

There is always a human tendency to define one's greatness by one's progeny. Some take this to foolish extremes.

16 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:11:36pm

re: #12 Randall Gross

I just don't get it, we are all pretty much the same in ancestry anyway, and people who write, paint, sculpt, compose, discover, study, build, and create will contribute to and influence the future much more than this guy ever will trying his selfish germ plasm ploy.

Only if you make the mistake of not home schooling and teaching anything but the Bible.
/

17 Randall Gross  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:12:05pm

This looks interesting, but I'm not willing to try the cholesterol bombwich after my heart surgery:

[Link: www.funpostbox.com...]

18 lockjawcanbefun  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:13:32pm

Wouldn't it be just special if some of his donated sperm ended up helping a lesbian couple start a family?

19 Mocking Jay  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:14:58pm

I'd click the link, but I'm pretty tired of reading Onion stories...

20 Targetpractice  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:16:38pm

Well, I guess that's one way to get around polygamy laws.

21 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:17:15pm

re: #12 Randall Gross

I just don't get it, we are all pretty much the same in ancestry anyway, and people who write, paint, sculpt, compose, discover, study, build, and create will contribute to and influence the future much more than this guy ever will trying his selfish germ plasm ploy.

I think for some guys it's just an enormously exciting experience to have fathered a child, and for a fertile man, of course, it's one you can repeat just about as often as you can find a lady with eggs who wants your sperm.

There are female equivalents, but it's a lot more energy and wear and tear on us.

I think the Duggars have a bit of this. It's not just that they feel they have a religious obligation to have (and now, of course, an audience for) a big family, I think they are deeply focused on the whole process of pregnancy and birth. My perception is that they get a huge kick out of that, more so than, say, having small children around.

22 Randall Gross  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:17:19pm

it's not the Onion, it's a visual recipe that includes onions though.

23 Wozza Matter?  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:18:41pm

I live.

Hey folks.

24 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:18:42pm
25 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:19:14pm

Okay, so the guy likes to masturbate.

26 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:21:00pm

re: #24 Bubblehead II

Obama is starting his speech.

CSPAN tv is showing the Libertarian Party convention. Jim Gray just won the nomination - for VP...Gary Johnson is their Presidential candidate. Who the hell is Jim Gray?

27 William of Orange  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:23:09pm

I've got to hand it to him. His name has a sense of irony when it comes to the subject.


And of course....


28 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:23:14pm

BBIAB

29 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:23:45pm

Romney's so fucking desperate he's got staffers showing up at Obama's rally in Richmond to get face time with the cameras.

30 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:24:06pm

re: #29 darthstar

Romney's so fucking desperate he's got staffers showing up at Obama's rally in Richmond to get face time with the cameras.

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Maybe they just want to see what a crowd looks like.

31 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:26:34pm

re: #26 darthstar

CSPAN tv is showing the Libertarian Party convention. Jim Gray just won the nomination - for VP...Gary Johnson is their Presidential candidate. Who the hell is Jim Gray?

Just there for symmetry: GJ/JG 2012

32 Randall Gross  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:26:38pm

I wish more politicians used the P word. (Persistent, persistence)

33 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:27:11pm

re: #26 darthstar

Beats me. I don't follow the Libertarians.

34 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:27:29pm

re: #30 darthstar

Maybe they just want to see what a crowd looks like.

35 jaunte  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:27:42pm
Johnson plans to apply for residency so he can stay in New Zealand, and that he intends to donate sperm to additional women.

New Zealand government still pondering his request to change his name to 'The Johnson.'

36 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:29:12pm

CSPAN's fixed now...Obama's talking...crowd is just as enthusiastic as Ohio was this morning.

37 Lidane  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:33:48pm

re: #17 Randall Gross

This looks interesting, but I'm not willing to try the cholesterol bombwich after my heart surgery:

[Link: www.funpostbox.com...]

Ooh. That looks good. I might have to try that down the line.

One of my classmates swears by this recipe, although he changes some of the veggies that are used to suit his tastes:

[Link: www.cookingcomically.com...]

38 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:35:32pm

How can he just wantonly spread his precious bodily fluids around wily-nily like that? Doesn't he know that they must be conserved and protected for procreation with his legally married (within the church) spouse only?

39 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:36:11pm

re: #38 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

How can he just wantonly spread his precious bodily fluids around wily-nily like that? Doesn't he know that they must be conserved and protected for procreation with his legally married (within the church) spouse only?

Never trust a man who cannot contain his vital essence.

40 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:38:23pm

The President's emphasis on economic inclusiveness certainly stands in stark contrast to the position the Rominee is taking.

41 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:39:47pm

It's a far more emotive effort on the part of the President than Mitt Romney has done in many of his speeches.

42 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:42:26pm

re: #41 freetoken

It's a far more emotive effort on the part of the President than Mitt Romney has done in many of his speeches.

Emotions are for the rabble.
/

43 Lidane  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:42:31pm

re: #41 freetoken

It's a far more emotive effort on the part of the President than Mitt Romney has done in many of his speeches.

Romneybot's emotion chip is on the fritz.

44 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:44:44pm

Flipping to Freep for a sip of alternate reality.

45 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:46:42pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

Flipping to Freep for a sip of alternate reality.

Oops... Freep is featuring the death of the National Christmas Tree on Obama's watch.

46 Lidane  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:47:29pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

Flipping to Freep for a sip of alternate reality.

Small doses only. Right now they're busy whinging about the fact that Cinco de Mayo is more of an American holiday than a Mexican one.

47 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:48:10pm

re: #45 Decatur Deb

Yes, FoxNews ran an article... and you can guess at the comments.

Idiot fundamentalists... they still refuse to acknowledge that it's a Pagan religious symbol.

48 Lidane  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:49:27pm

re: #47 freetoken

Idiot fundamentalists... they still refuse to acknowledge that it's a Pagan religious symbol.

So are the eggs and rabbits at Easter, but hey, why would the nutjobs bother with facts?

49 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:49:56pm

re: #43 Lidane

Romneybot's emotion chip is on the fritz.

Something Data had a problem with on a few occasions...

/ST geek out

50 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:50:11pm

re: #46 Lidane

Small doses only.

Mithridatism?

51 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:52:35pm

re: #45 Decatur Deb

Oops... Freep is featuring the death of the National Christmas Tree on Obama's watch.

Try this one where Anders Breivik is declared a "future national Hero of Norway," that is quite a potent dose of alternate reality and you only have to read the first 10-12 comments, tops, before looking for that little red "X" in the top right corner of the page...

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

52 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:52:43pm

re: #29 darthstar

Romney's so fucking desperate he's got staffers showing up at Obama's rally in Richmond to get face time with the cameras.

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That isn't it. Romney isn't President and Obama is, which puts him at an attention disadvantage. One way to partially overcome that is to keep his people close to Obama and make sure that Obama's message is always contested right away. Far from pathetic, its good sound strategy for a challenger.

53 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:55:12pm

re: #38 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

re: #39 Kragar

Your drinks, gentlemen. [Dark_Falcon sets down two glasses of rainwater and grain alcohol at Ausader and Kragar's table]

54 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:56:40pm

This sort of greyish robin-egg blue color that the Obama re-election campaign has chosen is questionable, I think. It doesn't go well with fiery rhetoric or testosterone expression that is part of this whole prime-alpha-male system.

55 wrenchwench  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:57:59pm

re: #46 Lidane

Small doses only. Right now they're busy whinging about the fact that Cinco de Mayo is more of an American holiday than a Mexican one.

Image: funny-cat-pictures-happens-every-th-of-may-go-figure.jpg

56 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:58:04pm

re: #51 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Try this one where Anders Breivik is declared a "future national Hero of Norway," that is quite a potent dose of alternate reality and you only have to read the first 10-12 comments, tops, before looking for that little red "X" in the top right corner of the page...

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

They should run a freepathon to build him a statue.

57 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 2:59:39pm

re: #56 Decatur Deb

They should run a freepathon to build him a statue.

As long as the statue shows Brevik realistically, and that means with his head up his ass and his hands stained with innocent blood.

58 wrenchwench  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:00:25pm

re: #26 darthstar

CSPAN tv is showing the Libertarian Party convention. Jim Gray just won the nomination - for VP...Gary Johnson is their Presidential candidate. Who the hell is Jim Gray?

I guess Gary Johnson is doing well. That question used to be about him.

Jim Gray is a former judge who is in favor of legalizing pot.

Surprised?

59 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:01:46pm

The President seemed more at ease and on-time with his delivery than many of his earlier speeches from 2008. Experience counts.

Call me color-obsessed, but the color of those "Forward" signs and banners just don't look right. For example, Michelle was wearing a teal dress, and the President was wearing brown slacks, but both shades didn't look right next to the "Forward" color choice. The color choice reminds me of the '70's and those fondue pots which so quickly became dated icons of an era that no one really appreciated.

60 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:01:56pm

Spreading the seed for Jesus?

---

re: #11 Kragar

Hobbity.

Damn good lamb too.

61 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:03:03pm

Baby-kissing moment!

62 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:05:25pm

re: #59 freetoken

The President seemed more at ease and on-time with his delivery than many of his earlier speeches from 2008. Experience counts.

Call me color-obsessed, but the color of those "Forward" signs and banners just don't look right. For example, Michelle was wearing a teal dress, and the President was wearing brown slacks, but both shades didn't look right next to the "Forward" color choice. The color choice reminds me of the '70's and those fondue pots which so quickly became dated icons of an era that no one really appreciated.

Sorry but your post just strikes me as weird. I think about color choice more than most men, but you're focusing on it far too hard.

63 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:07:32pm

re: #59 freetoken

The President seemed more at ease and on-time with his delivery than many of his earlier speeches from 2008. Experience counts.

Call me color-obsessed, but the color of those "Forward" signs and banners just don't look right. For example, Michelle was wearing a teal dress, and the President was wearing brown slacks, but both shades didn't look right next to the "Forward" color choice. The color choice reminds me of the '70's and those fondue pots which so quickly became dated icons of an era that no one really appreciated.

You don't choose colour, colour chooses you.

64 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:08:33pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

I'm very visual. Partly explains my life-long love of photography. And why when watching movies I concentrate so much on the cinematography.

65 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:09:43pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Sorry but your post just strikes me as weird. I think about color choice more than most men, but you're focusing on it far too hard.

talk to any graphic designer

66 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:10:23pm

re: #63 b_sharp

You don't choose colour, colour chooses you.

Note the misspelling of the word 'color'. The u after the second o is a telltale sign that you're dealing with a Canadian Socialist rather than an honest Real American!

67 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:12:31pm

re: #64 freetoken

I'm very visual. Partly explains my life-long love of photography. And why when watching movies I concentrate so much on the cinematography.

Well its harmless, and it shows insight. Lord knows I've seem how color clash can ruin a look and thus obliterate the image one was trying to convey. It just struck me as a little over-the-top, but there was nothing wrong with it of course.

68 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:14:12pm
69 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:17:28pm

re: #59 freetoken

The President seemed more at ease and on-time with his delivery than many of his earlier speeches from 2008. Experience counts.

Call me color-obsessed, but the color of those "Forward" signs and banners just don't look right. For example, Michelle was wearing a teal dress, and the President was wearing brown slacks, but both shades didn't look right next to the "Forward" color choice. The color choice reminds me of the '70's and those fondue pots which so quickly became dated icons of an era that no one really appreciated.

Screw fondue pots!

Real Americans use mini deep fryers for party snacks. With my deep fryer I can make mozzarella sticks, donut holes, pizza snacks, pierogies, french fries, tater tots, fried Snickers, etc, etc.

All dripping with oil/fat and extremely tasty, unlike your european socialist style vegetables dipped in cheese that is all the "Fondue" has to offer...

///

70 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:18:37pm

re: #67 Dark_Falcon

Well, on a more serious note, that shade of blue isn't exactly a "power" color. It's not particularly "heavenly" a shade of blue either as it is too grey or green in overtones. I'm not sure what effect they were reaching for with that choice.

71 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:20:08pm

re: #69 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Screw fondue pots!

Real Americans use mini deep fryers for party snacks. With my deep fryer I can make mozzarella sticks, donut holes, pizza snacks, pierogies, french fries, tater tots, fried Snickers, etc, etc.

All dripping with oil/fat and extremely tasty, unlike your european socialist style vegetables dipped in cheese that is all the "Fondue" has to offer...

///

Hey, don't be knocking the cheese!!1 That comes from Wisconsin and Wisconsin is a Real American state as long as Scott Walker is governor.

/Yes, I support Walker, but I also like cheese and I wanted to make a 'cheesehead' type joke.

72 funky chicken  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:20:16pm

I hope he's got a big, big wallet.

73 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:22:27pm

Filling the gates at the Derby.

74 Sionainn  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:22:38pm

re: #59 freetoken

The President seemed more at ease and on-time with his delivery than many of his earlier speeches from 2008. Experience counts.

Call me color-obsessed, but the color of those "Forward" signs and banners just don't look right. For example, Michelle was wearing a teal dress, and the President was wearing brown slacks, but both shades didn't look right next to the "Forward" color choice. The color choice reminds me of the '70's and those fondue pots which so quickly became dated icons of an era that no one really appreciated.

The color reminds me of appliances from the 1950-60s, just a bit brighter. Maybe it's supposed to be a subliminal message for those who thought the '50s were the best time.

75 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:25:35pm

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Filling the gates at the Derby.

MY GOD!!! DON'T THEY REALIZE ITS KARL MARX'S BIRTHDAY?!!?
/

76 wrenchwench  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:29:05pm

re: #59 freetoken

The President seemed more at ease and on-time with his delivery than many of his earlier speeches from 2008. Experience counts.

Call me color-obsessed, but the color of those "Forward" signs and banners just don't look right. For example, Michelle was wearing a teal dress, and the President was wearing brown slacks, but both shades didn't look right next to the "Forward" color choice. The color choice reminds me of the '70's and those fondue pots which so quickly became dated icons of an era that no one really appreciated.

That color is a perennial favorite in New Mexico. It's the color of our Centennial license plates.

77 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:29:29pm

re: #75 Kragar

MY GOD!!! DON'T THEY REALIZE ITS KARL MARX'S BIRTHDAY?!!?
/

Simple answer for that: Put Marx's picture on the ground and shovel the horses' pre-race horseshit onto it. That gives Marx a proper treatment.

/no sarc The wignuts are yelling about Marx cause they've nothing else to yell about, but Karl Marx was still as asshole of a high order.

78 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:31:27pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

Simple answer for that: Put Marx's picture on the ground and shovel the horses' pre-race horseshit onto it. That gives Marx a proper treatment.

/no sarc The wignuts are yelling about Marz cause they've nothing else to yell about, but Karl Marx was still as asshole of a high order.

Marx was nothing more than a philosopher. In what way was he an asshole?

79 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:31:45pm

Ive got Dullahan

80 Lidane  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:32:56pm

re: #56 Decatur Deb

They should run a freepathon to build him a statue.

I'm surprised they haven't done it already.

I guess that will be on the agenda should Barack Obama win a second term, right behind trying to start the Second Civil War.

81 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:33:51pm

re: #78 b_sharp

Marx was nothing more than a philosopher. In what way was he an asshole?

He was pretty nasty to his daughters and his rages and bias formed the basis for a political philosophy that got tens of millions of people killed.

82 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:33:52pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

Simple answer for that: Put Marx's picture on the ground and shovel the horses' pre-race horseshit onto it. That gives Marx a proper treatment.

/no sarc The wignuts are yelling about Marz cause they've nothing else to yell about, but Karl Marx was still as asshole of a high order.

May 5th; Kublai Khan becomes leader of the Mongol empire, Obama officially begins his reelection campaign.

HOW CAN IT BE ANY MORE CLEAR THAN THAT?

83 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:35:02pm

re: #82 Kragar

May 5th; Kublai Khan becomes leader of the Mongol empire, Obama officially begins his reelection campaign.

HOW CAN IT BE ANY MORE CLEAR THAN THAT?

Obama's Democrats are like the Mongol Horde!!1

84 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:36:04pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

He was pretty nasty to his daughters and his rages and bias formed the basis for a political philosophy that got tens of millions of people killed.

That really doesn't narrow the field when discussing German philosophers.
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85 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:36:34pm

I'll have another.

86 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:37:28pm

re: #85 darthstar

I'll have another.

That's what Johnson said in NZ.

87 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:38:07pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

Simple answer for that: Put Marx's picture on the ground and shovel the horses' pre-race horseshit onto it. That gives Marx a proper treatment.

/no sarc The wignuts are yelling about Marz cause they've nothing else to yell about, but Karl Marx was still as asshole of a high order.

Not really a bad man Per se. Just another idealist who completely failed to take into account the basics of human nature when dreaming up his idea of the "perfect form of government." Any pragmatic realist could (and did) tell him that it was never going to work, but he believed in his dream of a more Idyllic state for mankind.

Even today people still ignore reality in an attempt to believe in his musings, but thankfully not all that very many of them.

88 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:38:08pm

re: #85 darthstar

I'll have another.

Such the obvious choice! I won the house pool w/3rd!!

89 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:38:09pm

re: #84 Kragar

That really doesn't narrow the field when discussing German philosophers.
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Yeah, but that just says something about why Germans should not be philosophers. :)

90 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:39:36pm

re: #88 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

Such the obvious choice! I won the house pool w/3rd!!

Stanley's buying!!

91 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:39:55pm

Funny...apparently I've been cheering for this year's Kentucky Derby winner for the past 27 years and didn't know it. I'll have another!

92 Sionainn  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:40:04pm

re: #76 wrenchwench

That color is a perennial favorite in New Mexico. It's the color of our Centennial license plates.

I noticed that at Christmastime when my brother and SIL came to visit. They struck me as being a very odd color.

93 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:40:42pm

re: #91 darthstar

Funny...apparently I've been cheering for this year's Kentucky Derby winner for the past 27 years and didn't know it. I'll have another!

Did your horse win?

94 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:40:50pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

Stanley's buying!!

Haha, 3 peeps, 3 dollars. But we are celebrating cinco w/margaritas!

95 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:41:40pm

re: #93 Dark_Falcon

Did your horse win?

Nope...

96 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:42:10pm

This is kinda cool.
Neil deGrasse Tyson: Atheist or Agnostic?

97 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:43:30pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

Simple answer for that: Put Marx's picture on the ground and shovel the horses' pre-race horseshit onto it. That gives Marx a proper treatment.

/no sarc The wignuts are yelling about Marx cause they've nothing else to yell about, but Karl Marx was still as asshole of a high order.

Have you ever actually read Marx? It's not too bad as economists go. He and Adam Smith had very similar economic analysis at their heart and some of it remains very accurate. He probably likes banks more than Adam Smith did, if nothing else :) If Marx's analysis of labor and value were incorrect, Wall Street, with its abstraction of value separated completely from the labor creating it, could not exist.

Now, this is not to excuse the various people who tried to take power based on a fundamental misreading of him, but the old painting of Marx by JBS & the like is just as big a fallacy.

98 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:43:52pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

He was pretty nasty to his daughters and his rages and bias formed the basis for a political philosophy that got tens of millions of people killed.

Lenin, Stalin, Mao can all be condemned for the atrocities they committed and permitted, but Marx just wrote a book on philosophy and what he saw as the inevitable outcome of capitalism. There are quite a few books out there that are as wrong as Marx's, including Ayn Rand's, but I feel uncomfortable condemning the author for the actions of others. It kind of smacks of book burning.

99 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:44:43pm

Well, enjoy the drink gents, but as I head off to see The Avengers, I'll leave you with this story to remember to inequity of our enemies:

Rebels burn Timbuktu tomb listed as U.N. World Heritage site

Elderly men were keeping watch Saturday over Timbuktu's main library after Islamists burned down a tomb listed as a UNESCO World Heritage site.

The attacks Friday were blamed on Ansar Dine, a militant group that seeks to impose strict Sharia law.

The ancient city in Mali was captured by at least two separatist Tuareg rebel groups in an anti-government uprising in the northern part of the country that began in January.

The rebels burned the tomb of a Sufi saint where people come to pray, said Sankoum Sissoko, a tour guide familiar with the place. He said the library and other heritage sites remained under threat.

Sufism is a mystical dimension of Islam and Islamists believe Sufi shrines are sacrilegious. As such, they have mounted attacks in several nations.

Sissoko said the attackers were dressed in signature Ansar Dine black robes and turbans. Timbuktu residents, he said, were ready to take up arms against the rebels, who have been linked to al Qaeda.

100 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:45:03pm

re: #97 William Barnett-Lewis

He's Marx! Marxism! Marxist! X Marx the spot! Hate! Hate! Hate! Hate! Hate!

101 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:45:51pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

To have enemies, you must first agree to be an enemy.

102 Sionainn  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:52:15pm

re: #92 Sionainn

I noticed that at Christmastime when my brother and SIL came to visit. They struck me as being a very odd color.

Not my brother and SIL...the license plates.

103 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 3:53:46pm

re: #102 Sionainn

Not my brother and SIL...the license plates.

Image: Talas2153.jpg

104 engineer cat  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:00:23pm

formed the basis for a philosophy that got tens of millions of people killed

but enough discussion about jesus...

105 wrenchwench  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:02:17pm

re: #102 Sionainn

Not my brother and SIL...the license plates.

Image: centennial-plate_20090811103825_320_240.JPG

106 allegro  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:06:34pm

re: #102 Sionainn

Not my brother and SIL...the license plates.

LOL! I was wondering about that... but afraid to ask.

107 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:06:40pm
108 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:06:46pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

Well, enjoy the drink gents, but as I head off to see The Avengers, I'll leave you with this story to remember to inequity of our enemies:

Rebels burn Timbuktu tomb listed as U.N. World Heritage site

You'll like the Avengers it even has a lot of subtle and some not so subtle humor in it, not just CGI explosions.

**WARNING SPOILERS BELOW**

Sorta Subtle: "He's adopted." (Thor about Loki when told he has killed over eighty people in two days, after having previously cautioned the other Avengers to not disparage him since he is a "Son of Asgard.")

Not so subtle: Loki to Hulk "That is enough, I am a God!" Hulk immediately "smash's" him into the floor about ten times in five seconds and then walks away leaving Loki senseless.

109 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:07:37pm

Notice the amazing number of Retweets from my Twitter army!

//

Actually kind of pathetic but I'll get around to that one day.

110 Sionainn  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:09:07pm

re: #106 allegro

LOL! I was wondering about that... but afraid to ask.

You can always ask. I don't get offended easily and sometimes my brain thinks I'm saying what I want to say...until I reread it and discover that I mucked it up. LOL.

111 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:09:09pm

Shaq got his Doctorate today! Congrats!

112 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:09:13pm

Re: The Avengers - Without any spoiling, the first of the two post credit scenes is very very interesting for long term story arc reasons.

I'm much more an X-men person though I like Captain America too.

113 Interesting Times  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:14:21pm

Lulz (look at the linked pic):

114 engineer cat  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:14:34pm

Stand With Mitt

sit with grandma

115 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:19:16pm

re: #112 William Barnett-Lewis

Re: The Avengers - Without any spoiling, the first of the two post credit scenes is very very interesting for long term story arc reasons.

I'm much more an X-men person though I like Captain America too.

OH yeah, it was definitely a "HOLY CRAP!" moment.

116 engineer cat  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:19:41pm

Stand With Mitt

Stands With A Frist

117 allegro  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:24:16pm

re: #113 Interesting Times

Lulz (look at the linked pic):

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Wow, Mitt and Ann look like they're scared of each other. Could they pucker any tighter or stand further apart? LOL

118 Targetpractice  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:25:40pm

"Stand With Mitt"? Seriously?

119 Interesting Times  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:30:13pm

Stand With Mitt
Who's full of shit
And always thinks you'll fall for it!

120 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:30:31pm

re: #117 allegro

Wow, Mitt and Ann look like they're scared of each other. Could they pucker any tighter or stand further apart? LOL

Clenched fists show love!

121 engineer cat  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:30:39pm

re: #118 Targetpractice

"Stand With Mitt"? Seriously?

that is the actual slogan in his actual campaign ad

actually in reality

what it lacks in euphony, it makes up for in vacuity

122 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:30:47pm

re: #119 Interesting Times

Stand With Mitt
Who's full of shit
And always thinks you'll fall for it!

Stand with Mitt.
In the manure.
Bring your boots.
Burma Shave

123 engineer cat  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:31:40pm

re: #122 Gus

Stand with mitt.
In the manure.
Bring your boots.
Burma Shave

someone else commented on eschaton "if you stand with mitt you'll fall for anything"

124 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:32:40pm

re: #123 engineer cat

someone else commented on eschaton "if you stand with mitt you'll fall for anything"

Stand with Mitt.
Bring a stool.
Burma Shave

125 Targetpractice  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:34:20pm

re: #121 engineer cat

that is the actual slogan in his actual campaign ad

actually in reality

what it lacks in euphony, it makes up for in vacuity

No shit. Why not just get the younger folks onboard with something like "I Believe In Mitt Romney!"?

126 engineer cat  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:36:02pm

re: #125 Targetpractice

No shit. Why not just get the younger folks onboard with something like "I Believe In Mitt Romney!"?

too edgy for mitt

127 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:36:04pm

re: #125 Targetpractice

No shit. Why not just get the younger folks onboard with something like "I Believe In Mitt Romney!"?

Younger folks? And Mitt?

128 Targetpractice  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:36:52pm

re: #126 engineer cat

too edgy for mitt

But it fits a man who's so two faced.

129 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:39:08pm

I think it got pushed on them by ALEC. They's been pushing this whole "I stand with Walker" schtick here since one of the recall groups used a "Stand With Wisconsin" slogan during the petition process.

Recall Primary is Tuesday. If you're from Wisconsin and you're reading this, you better vote!!!

130 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:39:14pm

Romney's more like lemon drops hard candy, sarsaparilla, and foot powder.

//

131 Cheechako  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:40:11pm

re: #127 Gus

Younger folks? And Mitt?

Well, he does have DF.

132 engineer cat  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:41:20pm

Stand With Mitt Package
$60.00

Showcase your support with an array of official Romney products, ideal for dedicated supporters. The Stand with Mitt package contains a t-shirt, hat, button, and two bumper stickers. All products made proudly in the USA.

also featuring the compelling slogan We Have A Moral Responsibility Not To Spend More Than We Take In

there hasn't been so much excitement in a republican presidential campaign since alf landon

133 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:42:39pm

re: #132 engineer cat

Stand With Mitt Package
$60.00

Showcase your support with an array of official Romney products, ideal for dedicated supporters. The Stand with Mitt package contains a t-shirt, hat, button, and two bumper stickers. All products made proudly in the USA.

also featuring the compelling slogan We Have A Moral Responsibility Not To Spend More Than We Take In

there hasn't been so much excitement in a republican presidential campaign since alf landon

Showcase your support with an array of official Romney products, ideal for dedicated supporters. The Stand with Mitt package contains a t-shirt, hat, button, and two bumper stickers surgical stockings, Doan's Pills, Preparation-H, and years supply of Metamucil. All products made proudly in the USA.

FTFY

134 engineer cat  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:44:51pm

re: #133 Gus

Showcase your support with an array of official Romney products, ideal for dedicated supporters. The Stand with Mitt package contains a t-shirt, hat, button, and two bumper stickers surgical stockings, Doan's Pills, Preparation-H, and years supply of Metamucil. All products made proudly in the USA.

FTFY

majik underwear, free market fairy, official Job Creator hat...

135 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:45:18pm

re: #134 engineer cat

majik underwear, free market fairy, official Job Creator hat...

Pink slips for the ladies!

//

136 jaunte  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:49:18pm

re: #132 engineer cat

We Have A Moral Responsibility To Grover Norquist Not To Take In Enough

137 Targetpractice  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:50:06pm

re: #129 William Barnett-Lewis

I think it got pushed on them by ALEC. They's been pushing this whole "I stand with Walker" schtick here since one of the recall groups used a "Stand With Wisconsin" slogan during the petition process.

Recall Primary is Tuesday. If you're from Wisconsin and you're reading this, you better vote!!!

Speaking of Walker, I hear he's startin' to really sweat. Began spinning up the "doom and gloom" machine for if he loses.

138 Mentis Fugit  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:50:50pm

re: #18 lockjawcanbefun

Wouldn't it be just special if some of his donated sperm ended up helping a lesbian couple start a family?

It did. (The source is reputable; The Herald would be the closest thing we have to a "newspaper of record" these days.)

More from Britain's Daily Mail.

139 engineer cat  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:54:05pm

We Have A Moral Responsibility Not To Spend More Than We Take In

seriously, this sounds like it was written in the grover cleveland era...

140 allegro  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:56:09pm

re: #139 engineer cat

We Have A Moral Responsibility Not To Spend More Than We Take In Leave Our Citizens Sick and Dying on the Streets

Now there's a moral imperative.

141 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:57:47pm

Night Lizards. May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.

142 Sionainn  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:57:57pm

re: #132 engineer cat

Stand With Mitt Package
$60.00

Showcase your support with an array of official Romney products, ideal for dedicated supporters. The Stand with Mitt package contains a t-shirt, hat, button, and two bumper stickers. All products made proudly in the USA.

also featuring the compelling slogan We Have A Moral Responsibility Not To Spend More Than We Take In

there hasn't been so much excitement in a republican presidential campaign since alf landon

Compare that with 19 pages of much cooler stuff for Obama.

143 CuriousLurker  Sat, May 5, 2012 4:58:22pm

re: #138 Mentis Fugit

HI, everyone.

Mentis, is that you that started following me on Twitter? Just checking to be sure as you don't have your Twitter ID connect to your LGF profile...

144 wrenchwench  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:12:15pm

I thought I would miss the rotating titles terribly, but I didn't think to look for them today until just now. Now I miss them! And Frank, too.

145 CuriousLurker  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:14:34pm

re: #144 wrenchwench

I thought I would miss the rotating titles terribly, but I didn't think to look for them today until just now. Now I miss them! And Frank, too.

Same here. :-(

#FreeTheRotatingTitles from the #LGFGulag

146 Tigger2005  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:17:45pm

re: #15 Dark_Falcon

There is always a human tendency to define one's greatness by one's progeny. Some take this to foolish extremes.

I hear Genghis Khan's genes are all over Asia.

147 allegro  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:20:39pm

re: #142 Sionainn

Compare that with 19 pages of much cooler stuff for Obama.

I love the Bo pins. Must get a set to pin on my Boys' bandannas.

148 Sionainn  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:22:29pm

re: #147 allegro

I love the Bo pins. Must get a set to pin on my Boys' bandannas.

They had a do-it-yourself coloring t-shirt of Bo for the kids. That looked cool.

149 jaunte  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:23:27pm

Bryan Fischer's slogan for Romney:

Mitt's Maneuverable!

...Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association, for example, was the ringleader of the anti- Grenell effort, and argued on Thursday that Romney has proven to be "maneuverable."

"Gov. Romney is a politician rather than a statesman. While he will not do the right thing out of political conviction, he will do the right thing out of political convenience. This represents both a great challenge and a great opportunity for the pro-family community, since the governor has demonstrated in the Grenell affair that he is maneuverable. [...]

"Since Gov. Romney will do the right thing when it is politically expedient, it's our job to make it politically expedient for him to do the right thing on as many issues as possible. Let's get cracking."

150 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:24:18pm

re: #145 CuriousLurker

I like the rotating titles. I still remember the first one I saw when I first came to this site. "I got it! Toasters!"

151 allegro  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:26:02pm

re: #148 Sionainn

They had a do-it-yourself coloring t-shirt of Bo for the kids. That looked cool.

I missed that. My boys, however, do not have thumbs so that's beyond their abilities. And the shirts wouldn't fit them neither. (They're dogs.)

152 Sionainn  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:27:34pm

re: #151 allegro

I missed that. My boys, however, do not have thumbs so that's beyond their abilities. And the shirts wouldn't fit them neither. (They're dogs.)

I figured as much...I don't know of anyone who puts bandanas on boys. ;-)

153 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:28:21pm
154 Sionainn  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:28:36pm

DIY t-shirtre: #151 allegro

155 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:28:39pm

Go outside right now and look at the moon if you live on the East Coast. It is the closest, biggest, and brightest, it will be for many years, and it is gorgeous!

156 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:31:48pm

P.S. Right now it is easy to see why people believed the moon glowed on it's own before science taught us that it was only reflecting sunlight.

157 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:31:51pm

re: #155 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

I am sure it is beautiful but it is overcast in NE Philly. :(

158 Sionainn  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:33:27pm

re: #156 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

P.S. Right now it is easy to see why people believed the moon glowed on it's own before science taught us that it was only reflecting sunlight.

Just discussed this last night with my 7-year-old. She reasoned it out...very proud mommy moment.

159 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:33:43pm

re: #157 PhillyPretzel

I am sure it is beautiful but it is overcast in NE Philly. :(

Sucks to be you then... ;)

/sorry.

160 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:34:26pm

re: #156 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

P.S. Right now it is easy to see why people believed the moon glowed on it's own before science taught us that it was only reflecting sunlight.

It glows on its own because it's a goddess.

Duh.

161 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:34:34pm

re: #157 PhillyPretzel

I am sure it is beautiful but it is overcast in NE Philly. :(

[Link: www.ustream.tv...]

162 Mentis Fugit  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:35:36pm

re: #143 CuriousLurker

HI, everyone.

Mentis, is that you that started following me on Twitter? Just checking to be sure as you don't have your Twitter ID connect to your LGF profile...

Yes. Just signed up with Twitter a few days ago to follow folks and find out what all the fuss is about.

I've linked my LGF account to it now. Thanks for the reminder.

163 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:35:58pm

re: #161 Gus

Thanks.

164 Cheechako  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:40:47pm

Damn, won't be able to see the moon here because of clouds plus it's raining hard. Out of curiosity I just checked the local tide tables. The biggest tide change is for Monday . The Monday high tide at 2:09 am is +20.0 feet and the next low tide at 8:40 am is -4.7 feet for a total change of 24.7 feet!

165 wrenchwench  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:55:41pm

re: #158 Sionainn

Just discussed this last night with my 7-year-old. She reasoned it out...very proud mommy moment.

I knew a 13 year old who thought the sun and the moon were the same object, until she saw them out at the same time one day... :O

(She went to a hippy alternative school.)

166 jaunte  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:57:21pm
167 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 5, 2012 5:58:05pm

So, I'm in the backyard scraping paint off of some chairs for a service project (don't ask), and it's kind of boring.

Here's my thoughts: Do you suppose that Josiah Franklin, having had to give up on his dream of having Benjamin become a minister--do you suppose he saw this as a tragedy?

What about George Washington, whose mother refused to let him go to sea with the British Royal Navy? He undoubtedly would have been an admiral. He was simply too great not to be great.

Do we ever do this, in our smaller ways? Do we ever think we've lost, and that we're not going to be what we were meant to be, and really, we're just taking a different path? When and why? Because sometimes, someone can lose their way and fail to become what they might have been. Other times, they're just going down a different path.

Scraping paint is really, really boring.

168 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:02:31pm

Suddenly, Billy Squier

169 CuriousLurker  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:03:24pm

re: #167 Mostly sane, most of the time.

A very existential question. Those are good for long late-night talks with a friend...

Or for scraping paint. ;)

170 ProGunLiberal  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:05:37pm

re: #169 CuriousLurker

Gonna have to admit that Frank taught me something last night.

171 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:06:39pm
172 CuriousLurker  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:07:29pm

re: #170 ProGunLiberal

Good. Frank's a pretty smart guy.

173 ProGunLiberal  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:08:49pm

re: #172 CuriousLurker

Apparently, one of my secondary issues inhibits the effectiveness of my meds. I honestly did not know till yesterday. Family and teachers have always focused on Autism. I didn't know what effects Clonus can have.

174 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:09:00pm

A Serious question about Bill Johnson and his tiny swimmers:

The laws about sperm donor and recipient privacy must be a lot different in New Zealand than they are here (which I really truly doubt), so how in the hell does he know which women have even received his sperm much less whether or not that coupling produced a child?

Think about it, something here just does not pass the smell test, is that because he has violated the women's privacy thru bribes or threats, or because he is simply delusional and imagines he knows which kids are his?

Seriously, I'd like to know...

175 CuriousLurker  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:11:03pm

re: #173 ProGunLiberal

You should definitely see a doctor then. Maybe you can find relief.

176 allegro  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:11:24pm

re: #167 Mostly sane, most of the time.

There were many times when I was tromping through mud, swatting swarming skeeters feasting on my blood in futility while tracking a critter and collecting wet, stinky turds that I thought "I got a PhD for this?!"

My answer was always the same.

177 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:11:51pm

re: #174 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

A Serious question about Bill Johnson and his tiny swimmers:

The laws about sperm donor and recipient privacy must be a lot different in New Zealand than they are here (which I really truly doubt), so how in the hell does he know which women have even received his sperm much less whether or not that coupling produced a child?

Think about it, something here just does not pass the smell test, is that because he has violated the women's privacy thru bribes or threats, or because he is simply delusional and imagines he knows which kids are his?

Seriously, I'd like to know...

Maybe he donated to someone he knew already.

178 CuriousLurker  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:12:44pm

re: #176 allegro

LOL! But I'll bet you've also seen some pretty amazing things that most of the rest of us will never have an opportunity to.

179 allegro  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:12:54pm

re: #174 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

A Serious question about Bill Johnson and his tiny swimmers:

The laws about sperm donor and recipient privacy must be a lot different in New Zealand than they are here (which I really truly doubt), so how in the hell does he know which women have even received his sperm much less whether or not that coupling produced a child?

Think about it, something here just does not pass the smell test, is that because he has violated the women's privacy thru bribes or threats, or because he is simply delusional and imagines he knows which kids are his?

Seriously, I'd like to know...

It would seem to indicate that his sperm was not donated through a sperm bank, but rather directly.

180 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:13:26pm

re: #174 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

A Serious question about Bill Johnson and his tiny swimmers:

The laws about sperm donor and recipient privacy must be a lot different in New Zealand than they are here (which I really truly doubt), so how in the hell does he know which women have even received his sperm much less whether or not that coupling produced a child?

Think about it, something here just does not pass the smell test, is that because he has violated the women's privacy thru bribes or threats, or because he is simply delusional and imagines he knows which kids are his?

Seriously, I'd like to know...

IIRC from the original reports, he did not use an agency, relying on advertising to set up his 'assistance'. In two cases he also provided at least modest financial help to the mothers. (At the time, the total number of kids was just a rumor.)

181 ProGunLiberal  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:13:55pm

re: #175 CuriousLurker

Eh, I just know know that Therapy when I get back to Colorado is more important. The meds blunt the edge, but eventually, I should be able to leave them behind, if that is all they do.

182 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:14:21pm

re: #179 allegro

It would seem to indicate that his sperm was not donated through a sperm bank, but rather directly.

There's direct, and then there's very direct.

183 ProGunLiberal  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:15:28pm

re: #182 Mostly sane, most of the time.

That's a good question, actually.

184 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:16:02pm

re: #182 Mostly sane, most of the time.

There's direct, and then there's very direct.

He was reported to be fairly hands-off.

185 allegro  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:17:55pm

re: #178 CuriousLurker

LOL! But I'll bet you've also seen some pretty amazing things that most of the rest of us will never have an opportunity too.

I would imagine so. One of the funniest was watching a couple of professional trappers, yanno, REAL men, great white hunters, in a row boat with their shotguns for some goose hunting. Suddenly, BLAM! And the row boat quickly sinking.

A water moccasin had crawled into the bottom of the boat during the night to snuggle under a raincoat for some warmth. One of the fearless hunters freaked and shot it.

Heh. Never did let him live that one down.

186 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:18:29pm

Initial story as reported locally:

[Link: blog.al.com...]

187 CuriousLurker  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:18:46pm

re: #181 ProGunLiberal

With sincere intention & perseverance many things can be overcome, but you have to really want to change the things that you are voluntarily able to. You'll no doubt fall flat on your face, but you just have to pick yourself up and keep going.

188 CuriousLurker  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:20:23pm

re: #185 allegro

Ha! What a great story. ;)

189 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:33:12pm

re: #50 The Ghost of a Flea

Mithridatism?

They put arsenic in his meat
And stared aghast to watch him eat;
They poured strychnine in his cup
And shook to see him drink it up:
They shook, they stared as white’s their shirt:
Them it was their poison hurt.
—I tell the tale that I heard told.
Mithridates, he died old.

190 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:33:52pm

re: #57 Dark_Falcon

As long as the statue shows Brevik realistically, and that means with his head up his ass and his hands stained with innocent blood.

Bernini could have done it justice.

191 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:35:07pm

re: #84 Kragar

That really doesn't narrow the field when discussing German philosophers.
///

On dark nights, you can still hear the beard howling in the streets.

192 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:35:46pm

re: #180 Decatur Deb

Thank you, that explains a lot. So he had "mistresses" in New Zealand, he just probably didn't sleep with them. This guy is one strange puppy...

More fuel for my upcoming treatise on how the current Rightwing obsession with eliminating abortion has more to do with trying to increase birthrates for the white race than it does with saving babies. Stay tuned. (yeah, you stalkers too, your really going to love this one :p)

193 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:36:08pm

re: #82 Kragar

May 5th; Kublai Khan becomes leader of the Mongol empire, Obama officially begins his reelection campaign.

HOW CAN IT BE ANY MORE CLEAR THAN THAT?

King: Do you bring me news of the Russian royal family mistaken for bison due to their excessive winter clothing, and hunted down, chopped to pieces and eaten as little sweets by Mongolian bandits?

194 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:41:06pm

re: #139 engineer cat

We Have A Moral Responsibility Not To Spend More Than We Take In

seriously, this sounds like it was written in the grover cleveland era...

Let's put it over with Grover, don't count your dough, give him your vote!
;)

195 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:55:34pm

Grump. No moon pics here tonight. Heavy overcast in Madison.

Sadz :(

196 joe90  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:56:11pm

Mr Johnson has certainly made the news here.

NZ Herald.

197 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:56:26pm

re: #167 Mostly sane, most of the time.

So, I'm in the backyard scraping paint off of some chairs for a service project (don't ask), and it's kind of boring.

Here's my thoughts: Do you suppose that Josiah Franklin, having had to give up on his dream of having Benjamin become a minister--do you suppose he saw this as a tragedy?

What about George Washington, whose mother refused to let him go to sea with the British Royal Navy? He undoubtedly would have been an admiral. He was simply too great not to be great.

Do we ever do this, in our smaller ways? Do we ever think we've lost, and that we're not going to be what we were meant to be, and really, we're just taking a different path? When and why? Because sometimes, someone can lose their way and fail to become what they might have been. Other times, they're just going down a different path.

Scraping paint is really, really boring.

I was really struck, this past year, by a sermon that focused in on this bit from Genesis:

And Jacob said to Pharaoh, "The years of my pilgrimage are a hundred and thirty. My years have been few and difficult, and they do not equal the years of the pilgrimage of my fathers."

The rabbi commented that when we look at Jacob we see a larger-than-life ancestor, the father of the tribes, a trickster, a visionary, the man who wrestled with God.

Asked how he sees himself, he says, "I'm an old man, and I've had a hard life."

Because those setbacks? The ones we gloss over because it's just part of the story? They really matter when you're living them. He ran away from home because his brother wanted to kill him. He worked hard for the girl he wanted to marry, got tricked, and had to work longer for her. Brother shows up again, scares him. He had a terrifying encounter with something not of this world which injured him. He lost his wife, his daughter was raped, his sons disobeyed him in avenging her. He lost a son. That son has now been restored to him, at the price of finding out that most of the rest of them are jerks. One of the jerks recently raped his concubine.

Now he's fleeing a famine.

He doesn't see himself as someone chosen by God for anything good. He's an old man who's had terrible things happen to him.

This isn't exactly what you're talking about, but it brought it to mind.

198 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:00:25pm

re: #197 SanFranciscoZionist

Favorited. It needs some ruminating... thank you.

199 Robert O.  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:03:41pm

Don't you just love Republican family values?

200 Mich-again  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:27:37pm

re: #129 William Barnett-Lewis

I think it got pushed on them by ALEC. They's been pushing this whole "I stand with Walker" schtick here since one of the recall groups used a "Stand With Wisconsin" slogan during the petition process.

One side aims Forward and the other side prefers to Stand.

201 CriticalDragon1177  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:48:50am

Charles Johnson

He ran as a “family values” candidate? Well he's certainly going to have a big family, in a way.

202 Genshed  Sun, May 6, 2012 1:37:05pm

It must be complicated when your sexuality, your reproductive capacity, and your self-image get all mixed up like that. It's clear that passing on his genes is vitally important to this man. If it were that important to me, wow - how much more work. As it is, my husband and I adopted two sons, and poof, all done. Of course, we're actually RAISING them.

203 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, May 7, 2012 2:26:57am

We can get comfort knowing that, according to the precepts of his religion, he will rot in Hell for eternity

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

204 Patricia Kayden  Mon, May 7, 2012 4:37:12am

I assume that he's making money from spreading his seed so widely. Interesting "family values".


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