1 wrenchwench  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:28:38pm

They're baaack!!!

We don't feel like satan.

...

Frank says:

Producing satire is kind of hopeless because of the literacy rate of the American public. -- A quote in response to criticism of "Jewish Princess" ("People" magazine, circa 1979)

TYVM.

2 CuriousLurker  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:34:59pm

Yay!

The fuad ramses of web design.
...

Frank says:

I want a garden!

3 jaunte  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:37:08pm
Frank says:

A true Zen saying, nothing is what I want.

Guess I just can't get too zen,
cause I'm glad the Frank sayings
are back again

4 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:38:49pm

re: #3 jaunte

Guess I just can't get too zen,
cause I'm glad the Frank sayings
are back again

Thats no haiku!

5 CuriousLurker  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:46:41pm

Now that Planet LGF is restored to it's proper order, I'm gonna go find a movie to watch. G'nite everyone.

6 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:51:08pm
7 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:52:00pm

re: #6 Killgore Trout

Image: frank-zappa-quote1.jpg

Linkage fail

8 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 5, 2012 6:55:11pm

.re: #7 Kragar

Linkage fail

try this
Image: frank-zappa-quote1_1_.jpg

9 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:01:59pm

Koskidz outline their strategy to silence political opponents and potty mouthed shock jocks (with bonus crap about Rawandan genocide)
Rush Limbaugh Backlash Evolves & Grows

10 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:02:56pm

Frank says:

Thanks to our schools and political leadership, the U.S. has acquired an international reputation as the home of 250 million people dumb enough to buy 'The Wacky Wall-Walker.'

11 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:07:05pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

Koskidz outline their strategy to silence political opponents and potty mouthed shock jocks (with bonus crap about Rawandan genocide)
Rush Limbaugh Backlash Evolves & Grows

Image: demotivational-posters-i-can-see-no-negative-repercussions.jpg

12 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:09:46pm

The Princess is trying to get me to watch this. I made it about fifteen seconds. How long will you last?

(And: I warned you.)

13 wrenchwench  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:10:08pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

Koskidz outline their strategy to silence political opponents and potty mouthed shock jocks (with bonus crap about Rawandan genocide)
Rush Limbaugh Backlash Evolves & Grows

The word "silence" seems to be incorrect. From your link:

By his own account, Spocko worked quietly, deliberately, and pretty much in isolation. He established contact with the advertising departments of corporations, linking audio of offensive commentary in his messages. He researched their corporate statement of values, and asked them to consider offensive content in light of those values. When a controversial radio personality voiced a company's ads, Spocko observed that this person was also the voice of the company. Spocko emphasized that withdrawing advertising support for a show didn't limit a host's free speech, it was simply ceasing to support offensive content with advertising dollars. He would summarize, "You can choose to advertise elsewhere. This is really about YOU. Do YOU want to be associated with these comments? Do you want your company and brand to be associated with these comments?"

Emphasis added.

14 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:13:57pm

You are all free to hate me now.

15 goddamnedfrank  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:14:13pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

Koskidz outline their strategy to silence political opponents and potty mouthed shock jocks (with bonus crap about Rawandan genocide)
Rush Limbaugh Backlash Evolves & Grows

You have a problem with this?

Spocko began posting the recordings in October 2005 on his blog, which evolved into a campaign to E-mail the clips to advertisers and urge them to drop their ads from KSFO.

"The advertisers, in a lot of cases, don't know this is going on," said Spocko. "They hear it, and they can choose to say, 'Well, that really doesn't reflect our corporate brand.' "

It worked.

He's simply providing the advertisers with a service, the opportunity to listen to what they've been sponsoring.

16 wrenchwench  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:14:42pm

re: #12 Mostly sane, most of the time.

The Princess is trying to get me to watch this. I made it about fifteen seconds. How long will you last?

(And: I warned you.)

[Embedded content]

I looked at the image. I did not click 'play'.

17 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:15:00pm

re: #12 Mostly sane, most of the time.

The Princess is trying to get me to watch this. I made it about fifteen seconds. How long will you last?

(And: I warned you.)

[Embedded content]

18 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:15:30pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

I looked at the image. I did not click 'play'.

Volume off, sans pants, no problem.
/

19 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:15:57pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

But it's evil to hold people accountable for their words!

20 engineer cat  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:18:13pm

okay, bought a fourteen dollar ticket to the artistic wonder of the age weekend, 8pm show

21 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:24:23pm

re: #12 Mostly sane, most of the time.

The Princess is trying to get me to watch this. I made it about fifteen seconds. How long will you last?

(And: I warned you.)

[Embedded content]

Sigh...I watched the whole thing, wow, that was pretty bad. Besides who was it that told the girl on the left that she was "hot?" Kinda destroys the whole premise of the song/video unless you have two "hot girls" singing it...

/

22 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:26:23pm

re: #12 Mostly sane, most of the time.

The Princess is trying to get me to watch this. I made it about fifteen seconds. How long will you last?

(And: I warned you.)

[Embedded content]

The girls in that video need to watch this:

23 wrenchwench  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:33:52pm

It was a long, eventful week, just ended. But the weird customer of the week award goes to a woman who was in on Tuesday morning. She was a large woman, resembling a fertility icon, except for the tattoos and the (male) Marine-type haircut. She told me a lot about herself, along the lines of having been kidnapped by Walt Disney as an infant and raised by strangers, having been beat up the night before and woke up in a ditch, and so on. She bought a bracelet (I don't usually sell jewelry, but we have some stuff on consignment for a friend) and when I put it on her wrist, she said "We're now married in the Wiccan church."

That afternoon, she came back and told me the bracelet had fallen off and she lost it. She said, "Someone must have needed it more than I did." All I could think was "Thank Goddess!"

24 Mocking Jay  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:35:11pm

re: #5 CuriousLurker

Now that Planet LGF is restored to it's proper order, I'm gonna go find a movie to watch. G'nite everyone.

We left our orbit?

25 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:35:35pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

Koskidz outline their strategy to silence political opponents and potty mouthed shock jocks (with bonus crap about Rawandan genocide)
Rush Limbaugh Backlash Evolves & Grows

"koskidz"

"Nelvana's Troll Hammer"

"Piss Up A Rope"

"St. Pancake"

spare us the old-timey beardo right-wing camo-pants 9/11 fetishist memes plz

26 Mocking Jay  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:37:10pm

re: #20 engineer cat

okay, bought a fourteen dollar ticket to the artistic wonder of the age weekend, 8pm show

Ouch. Was it in 3D?

27 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:39:19pm

re: #21 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Sigh...I watched the whole thing, wow, that was pretty bad. Besides who was it that told the girl on the left that she was "hot?" Kinda destroys the whole premise of the song/video unless you have two "hot girls" singing it...

/

Apparently, it was two girls who knew they couldn't sing and claimed they made it as a joke for their friends.

28 goddamnedfrank  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:40:16pm

Our nation's delicate discourse will be imperiled if advertisers find out that they're paying to be associated with "Halfrican" spewing right wing racists.

29 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:41:38pm

I'm watching Rodan, so don't bug me.

30 makeitstop  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:41:45pm

Weezer covers Radiohead...

31 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:44:27pm

re: #30 makeitstop

Weezer covers Radiohead...

[Embedded content]

Cool, but can they do it as Elmer Fud?

32 SpaceJesus  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:46:30pm

The Libertarian Convention is live on C-Span

[Link: www.c-span.org...]


They have announced the number 2 clown

33 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:46:57pm

For your amusement...

[Link: www.behance.net...]

"What If" movie posters.

34 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:47:04pm

re: #32 SpaceJesus

The Libertarian Convention is live on C-Span

[Link: www.c-span.org...]

They have announced the number 2 clown

Crusty?

35 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:48:32pm

Thomas Jefferson was a Libertarian?

36 makeitstop  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:48:41pm

re: #31 b_sharp

Cool, but can they do it as Elmer Fud?

Rivers' nerdy voice singing that song is almost too much nerdiness at once.

37 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:49:05pm

Why is this place so dead lately? Has everyone gone Twittering?

38 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:50:35pm

re: #37 b_sharp

I've been wondering how the "social media" (twitter, FB) would affect the blog forums.

39 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:52:15pm

Good grief, they're going with the Moses/Pharaoh story to defend their glibertarianism.

40 SpaceJesus  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:52:17pm

lol libertarians quoting moses in vegas

41 Varek Raith  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:55:40pm

re: #39 freetoken

Good grief, they're going with the Moses/Pharaoh story to defend their glibertarianism.

Wut

42 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:57:13pm

re: #41 Varek Raith

The guy nominating Lee Write for Lib VP wants to be set free, or something.

43 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 5, 2012 7:59:49pm
44 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:01:15pm

Yes, Mr. Lee Wrights, the Libertarian party really is the boogeyman.

45 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:01:23pm

I'm So Ronery
So ronery
So ronery and sadry arone

There's no one
Just me onry
Sitting on my rittle throne
I work rearry hard and make up great prans
But nobody ristens, no one understands
Seems like no one takes me serirousry

And so I'm ronery
A rittle ronery
Poor rittle me

There's nobody
I can rerate to
Feel rike a bird in a cage
It's kinda sihry
But not rearry
Because it's fihring my body with rage

I'm the smartest most crever most physicarry fit
But nobody else seems to rearize it
When I change the world maybe they'll notice me
But until then I'rr just be ronery
Rittle ronery, poor rittle me

I'm so ronery

46 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:07:17pm

I'm expecting Johnson/Gray to poll, say, about 1% in the general election.

47 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:08:33pm

re: #45 b_sharp

I'm So Ronery
So ronery
So ronery and sadry arone

There's no one
Just me onry
Sitting on my rittle throne
I work rearry hard and make up great prans
But nobody ristens, no one understands
Seems like no one takes me serirousry

And so I'm ronery
A rittle ronery
Poor rittle me

There's nobody
I can rerate to
Feel rike a bird in a cage
It's kinda sihry
But not rearry
Because it's fihring my body with rage

I'm the smartest most crever most physicarry fit
But nobody else seems to rearize it
When I change the world maybe they'll notice me
But until then I'rr just be ronery
Rittle ronery, poor rittle me

I'm so ronery

YOU ARE WORTHLESS ALEC BALDWIN!!!

48 SpaceJesus  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:13:15pm

re: #46 freetoken

If Ron Paul wasn't in Romney's pocket, he could always send his support to Johnson, but oh well.

49 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:16:20pm

re: #47 Kragar

I rove you too.

50 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:18:39pm

re: #23 wrenchwench

Don't you just LOVE working retail! That is a very funny story!

51 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:20:45pm

Do you think it has a chance?

Could this become a major election issue?

S.J.Res. 39: A joint resolution removing the deadline for the ratification of the equal rights amendment.

112th Congress, 2011–2012

Sponsor: Sen. Benjamin Cardin [D-MD]
Status: Introduced

How is everyone tonite?

52 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:22:08pm

re: #51 ggt

Do you think it has a chance?

Could this become a major election issue?

Not unless the President wants to make it one.

53 Romantic Heretic  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:22:27pm

re: #32 SpaceJesus

I think libertarianism is a marketing ploy, a rebranding.

Its adherents claim otherwise but since its central tenet, or so it seems to me, is, "When all forms of illegitimate authority vanish, and all of them are illegitimate, the world will be wonderful forever," shows they are anarchists.

Why the rebranding?

Well, giving it a new name cuts them off from history. Anarchy has a bad rep. So libertarians don't carry the weight of anarchy's past.

The other reason is that it sets the debate in favour of the libertarians before it even starts. Since liberty is the root word to argue against libertarianism is to argue against liberty itself. It's a rhetorical trick, but effective.

One of the best things I read recently was a conservative critique of libertarianism, Marxism of the Right. Although I disagree with some of his statements it's an excellent deconstruction of libertarianism.

54 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:26:42pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

I looked at the image. I did not click 'play'.

Same here!

55 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:29:26pm

Poor Japan, the two Rodans are just making a mess of the countryside.
And the volcano just erupted.

Oh, no the Rodans are being killed by the erupting volcano.

I'm so sad.

And ronry.

56 Varek Raith  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:29:49pm

re: #55 b_sharp

Poor Japan, the two Rodans are just making a mess of the countryside.
And the volcano just erupted.

Oh, no the Rodans are being killed by the erupting volcano.

I'm so sad.

And ronry.

Huh???

57 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:30:00pm

re: #51 ggt

Do you think it has a chance?

Could this become a major election issue?

How is everyone tonite?

Reading, drinking tea, and playing heated pillow for the Feline Overlord. Got a bunch of errands done today at least.

58 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:30:54pm

re: #56 Varek Raith

Huh???

Don't worry, at least one will be back for the sequels where needed to carry Mothra (in larval form) around.

59 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:31:06pm

re: #56 Varek Raith

Huh???

#29 and #45

60 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:33:40pm

re: #58 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Don't worry, at least one will be back for the sequels where needed to carry Mothra (in larval form) around.

That one is the baby of the first two.

Mothra had those two singing fairy chics.

61 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:33:49pm

re: #43 SanFranciscoZionist

Remember that guy who shot his kid's computer?

too funny!

62 [deleted]  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:34:45pm
63 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:35:16pm

re: #58 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Don't worry, at least one will be back for the sequels where needed to carry Mothra (in larval form) around.

QUICK! Get a set of tiny Japanese women to sing them back to sleep!

64 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:35:32pm

re: #62 MikeySDCA

OT: Earlier today I posted some comments on Obama Speaks in Ohio which were evidently not deemed sufficiently respectful to the Beloved Leader by the local troll population. For the record, their names:

How do you like me now, guys?

Huh?

65 austin_blue  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:36:01pm

re: #51 ggt

Do you think it has a chance?

Could this become a major election issue?

How is everyone tonite?

Finer than frog hair! But disappointed that scud blowing up from the south is interfering with

Super Moon! Perigee 2012!!!

I am *so* angry at god.

66 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:36:01pm

Oh no, here comes Conan.

A Japanese monster flick followed by Conan. My mind is going to be so fucked.

67 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:36:25pm

re: #62 MikeySDCA

OT: Earlier today I posted some comments on Obama Speaks in Ohio which were evidently not deemed sufficiently respectful to the Beloved Leader by the local troll population. For the record, their names:

How do you like me now, guys?

I'll go with "Not a single fuck was given".

68 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:37:02pm

re: #66 b_sharp

Oh no, here comes Conan.

A Japanese monster flick followed by Conan. My mind is going to be so fucked.

He's interviewing Godzilla on his talk show?

69 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:37:31pm

re: #62 MikeySDCA

OT: Earlier today I posted some comments on Obama Speaks in Ohio which were evidently not deemed sufficiently respectful to the Beloved Leader by the local troll population. For the record, their names:

How do you like me now, guys?

Even less.

70 ProGunLiberal  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:37:43pm

re: #64 Gus

He's whining that they disagreed with him. Mikey said all Obama can do is read off of a Teleprompter.

I personally think Obama is the best Anti-Terror President we have had since Lyndon Johnson. Good enough for me to vote for him.

71 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:38:07pm

re: #62 MikeySDCA

OT: Earlier today I posted some comments on Obama Speaks in Ohio which were evidently not deemed sufficiently respectful to the Beloved Leader by the local troll population. For the record, their names:

How do you like me now, guys?

Huh?

72 Varek Raith  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:38:44pm

re: #59 b_sharp

#29 and #45

Lol, I get it now.

73 goddamnedfrank  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:38:48pm

re: #62 MikeySDCA

OT: Earlier today I posted some comments on Obama Speaks in Ohio which were evidently not deemed sufficiently respectful to the Beloved Leader by the local troll population. For the record, their names:

How do you like me now, guys?

Whining about down dings earns more down dings. Grow up and stop acting like an infant.

74 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:39:45pm

re: #68 Kragar

He's interviewing Godzilla on his talk show?

No, this is his twin, the barbarian.

75 Varek Raith  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:39:59pm

re: #62 MikeySDCA

OT: Earlier today I posted some comments on Obama Speaks in Ohio which were evidently not deemed sufficiently respectful to the Beloved Leader by the local troll population. For the record, their names:

How do you like me now, guys?

Have another. :)

76 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:40:01pm

re: #66 b_sharp

Oh no, here comes Conan.

A Japanese monster flick followed by Conan. My mind is going to be so fucked.

Because it's not enough already?

(you created that opening) :0

77 austin_blue  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:40:07pm

re: #73 goddamnedfrank

Whining about down dings earns more down dings. Grow up and stop acting like an infant.

Good advice.

78 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:40:20pm

re: #73 goddamnedfrank

Whining about down dings earns more down dings. Grow up and stop acting like an infant.

Quoted for truth.
Say what you mean and own it.
Or, STFU.

79 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:40:48pm

re: #62 MikeySDCA

OT: Earlier today I posted some comments on Obama Speaks in Ohio which were evidently not deemed sufficiently respectful to the Beloved Leader by the local troll population. For the record, their names:

How do you like me now, guys?

I downdinged because your comments about the teleprompter are a moronic diversion. Each prez since Ike has used a teleprompter. Obama is no different.

A teleprompter is no different from note cards. In fact, it's just a higher tech version of having your speech on paper.

Your "Beloved Leader" comment is teabagger garbage.

80 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:41:25pm

re: #73 goddamnedfrank

Whining about down dings earns more down dings. Grow up and stop acting like an infant.

Besides, you will NEVER have enough Karma to buy that toaster....
None of us will!

81 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:41:29pm

re: #76 ggt

Because it's not enough already?

(you created that opening) :0

But I hide it well.

82 ProGunLiberal  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:42:06pm

re: #79 palomino

I downdinged because your comments about the teleprompter are a moronic diversion. Each prez since Ike has used a teleprompter. Obama is no different.

A teleprompter is no different from note cards. In fact, it's just a higher tech version of having your speech on paper.

Your "Beloved Leader" comment is teabagger garbage.

And a projection. The right is more likely to do that sort of action.

83 Varek Raith  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:42:15pm

Hurr hurr, Obama uses a teleprompter! hurr durr.

Yeah, so did GWB. Clinton. GHWB. Reagan. Seriously, stupid attack is stupid.

84 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:42:30pm

re: #80 Dancing along the light of day

Besides, you will NEVER have enough Karma to buy that toaster...
None of us will!

I will.

85 austin_blue  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:42:35pm

re: #74 b_sharp

No, this is his twin, the barbarian.

I've always preferred Cohen the Barbarian from the Discworld series. Meanest little fucker supported by an intergalactic sea turtle and four elephants evah!

86 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:42:59pm

re: #84 Kragar

I will.

Not a four slice one!

87 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:43:16pm

re: #80 Dancing along the light of day

Besides, you will NEVER have enough Karma to buy that toaster...
None of us will!

I received my toaster in the mail months ago, a Cool Touch B&D.

88 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:44:21pm

re: #70 ProGunLiberal

He's whining that they disagreed with him. Mikey said all Obama can do is read off of a Teleprompter.

I personally think Obama is the best Anti-Terror President we have had since Lyndon Johnson. Good enough for me to vote for him.

Any dimwit who's ever heard Obama give an interview or do a town hall knows the guy is smart enough to answer questions articulately without a teleprompter.

It's the game of hating on a guy, Obama, who has done exactly the same thing as our last 10 presidents. It's truly the meme for cretins, imbeciles and other mental defectives.

89 austin_blue  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:45:08pm

re: #87 b_sharp

I received my toaster in the mail months ago, a Cool Touch B&D.

Dude, you got a Bondage and Discipline toaster? I don't *even* want to know...

90 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:46:15pm

re: #87 b_sharp

I received my toaster in the mail months ago, a Cool Touch B&D.

Careful, or you'll end up with a blackened pecker.

91 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:46:28pm

re: #86 Dancing along the light of day

Not a four slice one!

I only eat 2 slices at a time.

92 Varek Raith  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:46:47pm

re: #62 MikeySDCA

OT: Earlier today I posted some comments on Obama Speaks in Ohio which were evidently not deemed sufficiently respectful to the Beloved Leader by the local troll population. For the record, their names:

How do you like me now, guys?

Image: obama-got-osama.jpg

93 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:47:08pm

Yes, I'm here, and yes, that was a penis joke. Did you expect anything less?

Not here for long...need to go to bed before my ride tomorrow.

94 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:47:34pm

Derp.

95 Varek Raith  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:47:45pm

re: #92 Varek Raith

Image: obama-got-osama.jpg

That just kills you guys, doesn't it?

96 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:47:59pm

Another successful thread hijack.

97 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:48:07pm

re: #92 Varek Raith

Image: obama-got-osama.jpg

Love that pic. Can't wait to see it re-captioned. "You want to ride on Air Force One, Mitt? Hop on the roof."

98 austin_blue  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:48:54pm

re: #97 darthstar

Love that pic. Can't wait to see it re-captioned. "You want to ride on Air Force One, Mitt? Hop on the roof."

Now, see? That's comedy!

Well played!

99 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:49:13pm

re: #96 b_sharp

Another successful thread hijack.

100 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:49:46pm

re: #98 austin_blue

Now, see? That's comedy!

Well played!

As they say the penis mightier.

101 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:51:20pm
102 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:51:21pm

re: #100 Kragar

As they say the penis mightier.

The penis envy. (a direct quote from Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale, with one space removed.

103 goddamnedfrank  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:52:06pm

Here's the thing, teleprompter comments have zero originality or creativity behind them. None. I've seen wet farts in crowded elevators executed with greater wit and panache.

104 Varek Raith  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:52:38pm

It must suck having to vote for Mitt.

105 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:52:48pm

re: #101 ggt

Image: 582601_379659672079176_304002352978242_1189972_1849645562_n.jpg

Why does "testicular" sound like it should be something attached to an underwater sea monster?

"Careful with the testiculars! One bite from those and you're dead!"

//

106 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:53:02pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

Here's the thing, teleprompter comments have zero originality or creativity behind them. None. I've seen wet farts in crowded elevators executed with greater wit and panache.

Sorry about that. It was the chili.

107 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:53:28pm

re: #104 Varek Raith

It must suck having to vote for Mitt.

I love Mitt!

108 austin_blue  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:54:15pm

re: #105 Gus

Why does "testicular" sound like it should be something attached to an underwater sea monster?

"Careful with the testiculars! One bite from those and you're dead!"

//

Kinda like engaging in mastication in a public space.

109 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:54:45pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

Here's the thing, teleprompter comments have zero originality or creativity behind them. None. I've seen wet farts in crowded elevators executed with greater wit and panache.

Teleprompter Hitler Godwin.

110 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:54:52pm

re: #108 austin_blue

Kinda like engaging in mastication in a public space.

Didn't we just have a thread about Obama potentially engaging in mastication in a public space. Alone?

111 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:55:09pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

Here's the thing, teleprompter comments have zero originality or creativity behind them. None. I've seen wet farts in crowded elevators executed with greater wit and panache.

Presidents have been using teleprompters for decades now. If not those they also have built in teleprompters for the podium or just simply using a printed copy of a speech.

112 Varek Raith  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:55:36pm

That all ya got???

113 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:57:27pm

re: #109 palomino

Teleprompter Hitler Godwin.

That's what I plan on naming my first child.

114 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:58:45pm

re: #111 Gus

Presidents have been using teleprompters for decades now. If not those they also have built in teleprompters for the podium or just simply using a printed copy of a speech.

Exactly...those afflicted with ODS seem to think he's cheating somehow by using a teleprompter.

It's not "cheating" any more than writing your words on paper, note cards, or if you're a half-governor, on your hand...or some other body part.

115 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:59:13pm

re: #113 darthstar

That's what I plan on naming my first child.

Unless it's a girl, then I'll call her Sharia Kenya

116 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 8:59:26pm

re: #114 palomino

Exactly...those afflicted with ODS seem to think he's cheating somehow by using a teleprompter.

It's not "cheating" any more than writing your words on paper, note cards, or if you're a half-governor, on your hand...or some other body part.

They're still pissed he has a fully functional brain.

117 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:00:06pm

re: #115 darthstar

Is "teleprompter" masculine?

118 [deleted]  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:00:08pm
119 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:00:28pm

re: #113 darthstar

That's what I plan on naming my first child.

Good thinking...make Hitler the middle name.

And Teleprompter lends itself to all manner of cute nicknames.

120 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:00:38pm

Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan.

121 Mich-again  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:00:42pm

My man GWB used a teleprompter, but sometimes he couldn't pronounce words they typed in for him to read so he freelanced a bit..

122 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:01:21pm

re: #116 Kragar

They're still pissed he has a fully functional brain.

He doesn't fit in with their belief in The Bell Curve.

123 Varek Raith  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:01:25pm

re: #118 MikeySDCA

A textbook bully response.

Why do you care? Your party doesn't think bullying is a big deal.
;)

124 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:01:34pm

re: #117 freetoken

Is "teleprompter" masculine?

Yes, it is...you never see Sarah Palin with a teleprompter, in part because she writes her speeches in crayon.

125 Varek Raith  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:01:44pm

re: #121 Mich-again

My man GWB used a teleprompter, but sometimes he couldn't pronounce words they typed in for him to read so he freelanced a bit..

NUCULAR

126 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:01:53pm

re: #118 MikeySDCA

A textbook bully response.

Bully? What next? You going to claim you're being put into an LGF Gulag?

//

127 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:01:55pm
128 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:02:24pm

re: #123 Varek Raith

Why do you care? Your party doesn't think bullying is a big deal.
;)

I blame his parents.

129 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:02:47pm

Down-dingity!

130 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:02:56pm

re: #29 b_sharp

I'm watching Rodan, so don't bug me.

Why in the world for? The guys a nutcase stalker?

/Yes, I know, other Rodan. [waves to the Stalkers]

131 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:04:24pm

re: #118 MikeySDCA

A textbook bully response.

You're being bullied? How?

Being called an ignoramus for saying moronic things is not bullying. It's the response teleprompter-clinging ODS victims deserve.

132 goddamnedfrank  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:04:41pm

re: #111 Gus

Presidents have been using teleprompters for decades now. If not those they also have built in teleprompters for the podium or just simply using a printed copy of a speech.

Republicans love the teleprompter meme because it's perfectly Rovian, paint the opposition with one's own flaws. If the problem is that Republican candidates are all conversationally inept and uninspiring then there must be some other way of explaining why Obama keeps knocking speeches out of the park. They ignore the fact that he's written many of his own speeches and delivered many without a teleprompter because their audience is desperately hungry for a reason to dismiss this glaring gap in execution. Obama makes it look easy because for him it is, regardless of the format. So while Bush looked like a happy yokel, McCain an old fool, Palin an idiotic airhead and Romney an awkward android - Obama just looks cool, comfortable and connected, like someone who not only "gets it" but is enjoying himself at the same time.

133 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:05:32pm

re: #131 palomino

You're being bullied? How?

Being called an ignoramus for saying moronic things is not bullying. It's the response teleprompter-clinging ODS victims deserve.

People are disagreeing with me on the internet... CALL THE POLICE!!

134 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:06:12pm

re: #118 MikeySDCA

Frank's ill-tempered, but not a bully in my mind. He's actually been willing to concede when I've got a factual advantage over him, which a bully would do. I'd say he's got a temper, but it doesn't cover up the kind of insecurities a bully normally has.

135 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:06:29pm

re: #133 Kragar

People are disagreeing with me on the internet... CALL THE POLICE!!

No we're not!

136 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:07:02pm

re: #135 darthstar

No we're not!

I knew you would say that... just like Hitler!

137 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:07:07pm

re: #133 Kragar

People are disagreeing with me on the internet... CALL THE POLICE!!

Is Mikey 4 years old? Where's that thick-skinned "personal responsibility" his church/party is known for?

138 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:07:12pm

re: #104 Varek Raith

It must suck having to vote for Mitt.

It beats voting for Obama, that's for sure.

139 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:07:45pm

re: #136 Kragar

I knew you would say that... just like Hitler!

He learned it from his sister Kenya.

140 makeitstop  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:09:11pm

re: #117 freetoken

Is "teleprompter" masculine?

The feminine ones are 'telepromptresses.'

141 [deleted]  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:09:12pm
142 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:09:24pm

re: #138 Dark_Falcon

It beats voting for Obama, that's for sure.

I can't vote for either, but I trust Obama a lot more than I trust Romney.

143 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:10:05pm

re: #140 makeitstop

The feminine ones are 'telepromptresses.'

Do the feminine ones finish your sentence for you?

(Uh oh, did I say that out loud?)

144 Interesting Times  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:10:30pm

re: #138 Dark_Falcon

It beats voting for Obama women's rights, LGBT rights, worker's rights, earned benefits for the middle class, and environmental protection, that's for sure.

Now it's accurate.

145 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:10:32pm

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

Frank's ill-tempered, but not a bully in my mind. He's actually been willing to concede when I've got a factual advantage over him, which a bully would do. I'd say he's got a temper, but it doesn't cover up the kind of insecurities a bully normally has.

Why are you responding seriously to a guy pushing the teleprompter meme?

Mikey doesn't deserve serious attention, as he clearly doesn't make serious comments. Just because he's voting for your guy doesn't mean he's got half a brain.

146 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:11:21pm

re: #138 Dark_Falcon

Oh, come on P_S! That was a clean line decently delivered. It wasn't deserving of a downding unless you're just being blatantly partisan.

147 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:11:45pm

re: #138 Dark_Falcon

It beats voting for Obama, that's for sure.

Sometimes I really enjoy you, D_F...you're a great caricature of a Republican faithful soldier for Christ. I mean, you embody just about everything I enjoy mocking about them, with the possible exception of a secret gay lover you hide from your father...though it's totally cool if you do have one...I won't judge you for it.

148 makeitstop  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:11:54pm

re: #143 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Do the feminine ones finish your sentence for you?

(Uh oh, did I say that out loud?)

She'll be here all week, folks!

149 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:12:49pm

re: #147 darthstar

Insinuating that I'm gay makes you an asshole.

150 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:13:12pm

re: #141 MikeySDCA

I pointed out that he read well from a teleprompter and had good writers. Neither is in dispute. You, among others, seems to be overreacting. Is there an element of secret doubt here? Do you fear that the idol has feet of clay?

Feet of clay? You mean like Romney who can't stand up to the crazy theocrats in his party? Or can't even grow a spine to say anything worth a damn about Rush Limbaugh or Ted Nugent -- even after making a veiled threat to the president. From the flip flopping BULLSHIT ARTIST known as Mitt Romney? Those feet a clay?

151 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:14:30pm

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

Insinuating that I'm gay makes you an asshole.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.
/

152 [deleted]  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:14:32pm
153 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:14:55pm

re: #141 MikeySDCA

I pointed out that he read well from a teleprompter and had good writers. Neither is in dispute. You, among others, seems to be overreacting. Is there an element of secret doubt here? Do you fear that the idol has feet of clay?

We all know he has a teleprompter with good speechwriters (himself included). We've known that for 5 years. What insightful observation will you make next--that he's half black, half white?

Your use of terms like "idol" and "Beloved Leader" to describe the president prove that you're not sincere in your comments, you're simply throwing around RW talking points like a dutiful, but mindless, Lim-bot.

Why should anyone take you seriously?

154 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:15:23pm

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

Insinuating that I'm gay makes you an asshole.

I didn't insinuate you were gay...I just said it was okay with me if you were. No need to be defensive. There are a number of gay lizards here and they're okay with it.

155 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:15:49pm

re: #141 MikeySDCA

I pointed out that he read well from a teleprompter and had good writers. Neither is in dispute. You, among others, seems to be overreacting. Is there an element of secret doubt here? Do you fear that the idol has feet of clay?

1) Repeat a nonsensical talking point.
2) When called on it play the victim.
3) When called on that, project butt hurt.
4) When called on that, return to #1.

If I remember correctly, your comment about Obama reading well from a teleprompter and having good writers, it was followed by a BFD.
A lot of context in that little 3 letter acronym.

156 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:15:52pm

re: #151 Kragar

Not that there is anything wrong with that.
/

Good...because I quite enjoy being an asshole.

157 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:15:55pm

Both Kevin D. Williamson and Nicle Gelinas have written columns using narratives to go after the Obama campaign's "Life of Julia". Of the two, I think Gelinas has the better one. It not nasty-hostile like Willianson's, but it makes its point and cuts Obama down a peg.

Check it out here.

158 goddamnedfrank  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:16:03pm

re: #138 Dark_Falcon

It beats voting for Obama, that's for sure.

What does Mitt Stand for again?

It seemed like it was 'his turn' and he seemed electable. My problem with him has become that he stands for nothing but a desire to be president. In that regard, he's worse than Gingrich, and worse than Obama as well. Both Barack and Newt want to be president because they have things they want to do and they need the presidency to enact them. Romney seems to just want to be president.

It's be nice if you at least actually acknowledged having said these things, and not all that long ago.

His use of footage of Obama wasn't quite as bad as what Grayson did, but it was very bad in my eyes. It'll prevent me from voting for Romney in the primary, since I don't support that sort of dishonesty. Mitt seems to have his eyes too closely focused on the prize, to the exclusion of principles and honesty.

It's fairly difficult at this point to understand what either of you really stand for, except perhaps momentary expedience.

159 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:16:08pm

re: #138 Dark_Falcon

It beats voting for Obama, that's for sure.

I'd rather vote for a human who hasn't lived his entire life in a bubble and is clearly incapable of relating to others.

160 Varek Raith  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:16:28pm

re: #156 darthstar

Good...because I quite enjoy being an asshole.

Fuck you!
:P

161 Interesting Times  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:16:33pm

re: #146 Dark_Falcon

Oh, come on P_S! That was a clean line decently delivered. It wasn't deserving of a downding unless you're just being blatantly partisan.

A vote for Romney is a vote against all the things I mentioned here. Are you motivated by facts, or feelings?

162 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:17:08pm

re: #160 Varek Raith

Fuck you!
:P

I'm saving myself for Dark_Falcon.

163 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:17:15pm

re: #159 palomino

I'd rather vote for a human who hasn't lived his entire life in a bubble and is clearly incapable of relating to others.

I bet you $10k we can find an average person Mitt can relate to!

164 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:17:48pm

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

Insinuating that I'm gay makes you an asshole.

He didn't insinuate.

165 Targetpractice  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:18:02pm

re: #163 Kragar

I bet you $10k we can find an average person Mitt can relate to!

"Average"?

166 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:18:19pm

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

Both Kevin D. Williamson and Nicle Gelinas have written columns using narratives to go after the Obama campaign's "Life of Julia". Of the two, I think Gelinas has the better one. It not nasty-hostile like Willianson's, but it makes its point and cuts Obama down a peg.

Check it out here.

Come on DF. Seriously? Williamson: "He is the author of the 2011 book The Politically Incorrect Guide to Socialism."

167 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:18:23pm

re: #163 Kragar

I bet you $10kTEN THOUSAND BUCKS we can find an average person Mitt can relate to!

Gotta use Romney's high falutin' language that he used on Perry.

168 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:18:44pm

re: #165 Targetpractice

"Average"?

Just the right height and everything.

169 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:18:53pm

re: #164 b_sharp

He didn't insinuate.

No...I just pushed a phobic little button.

170 [deleted]  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:18:56pm
171 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:18:56pm

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

Frank's ill-tempered, but not a bully in my mind. He's actually been willing to concede when I've got a factual advantage over him, which a bully would do. I'd say he's got a temper, but it doesn't cover up the kind of insecurities a bully normally has.

I've seen no evidence that his temper is any worse than yours.

172 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:19:19pm

re: #154 darthstar

I didn't insinuate you were gay...I just said it was okay with me if you were. No need to be defensive. There are a number of gay lizards here and they're okay with it.

I have nothing against gay people, but I felt that what you were saying seemed to be accusing me of being gay, a tactic sometimes used to tear people down.

173 Varek Raith  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:19:32pm

Knock it off, fools!
:P

174 Targetpractice  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:20:57pm

It's too late in the evenin' to be trying to beat each others heads in.

175 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:21:22pm

re: #140 makeitstop

The feminine ones are 'telepromptresses.'

telepromt attendent

176 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:21:27pm

re: #174 Targetpractice

It's too late in the evenin' to be trying to beat each others heads in.

That was the last thread's topic anyway.

/rimshot

177 goddamnedfrank  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:22:09pm

re: #140 makeitstop

The feminine ones are 'telepromptresses.'

Telepromtrix

178 Targetpractice  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:22:16pm

re: #176 Kragar

That was the last thread's topic anyway.

/rimshot

Feel like I need to dunk my monitor in bleach after that.

//

179 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:22:46pm

re: #166 Gus

Come on DF. Seriously? Williamson: "He is the author of the 2011 book The Politically Incorrect Guide to Socialism."

Yeah, seriously. Kevin D. Williamson is an excellent writer, and NR is luck to have him, but his reply to 'LoJ' was more hostile and seemed directly aiming at smacking Obama down. Gelinas is much less hostile and presents a more clever,less 'smashmouth' tale.

180 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:22:48pm

re: #177 goddamnedfrank

Telepromtrix

Now she's sounding sexy.

181 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:23:28pm

re: #177 goddamnedfrank

Telepromtrix

You dream about her, don't you?

182 darthstar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:23:39pm

Okay folks...time for bed. See you all down the road.

183 [deleted]  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:24:06pm
184 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:24:17pm

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

Insinuating that I'm gay makes you an asshole.

He was obviously joking about the fact that so many social conservatives are actually closeted gays. You're not a socon, so he clearly wasn't talking about you...where's your sense of humor?

185 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:24:23pm

Speaking of crazy theocrats and feet of clay, a well known fundamentalist Reformed organization, Ligonier Ministries, headed by R.C. Sproul, had a conference recently called The Christian Mind, with such invited luminaries as Stephen "The Cell is Too Hard For Me" Meyer, Mullah Al Mohler, and Del "The Delusional" Tackett.

And yes, they recorded the major sessions for all of us to enjoy.

For example, on the second day of questions they take up the age of the universe, at 42 minutes into this video:
[Link: www.ligonier.org...]

In the first day of questions, among other sticky questions, they tackle whether it is a sin for a Christian to vote for a Mormon or a Catholic, starts at 28:48:
[Link: www.ligonier.org...]

If you feel you just have too many brain cells you can watch those videos and take care of the problem. But take heart, the speakers aren't using teleprompters.

186 Varek Raith  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:24:40pm

re: #183 MikeySDCA

I love it! A few innocuous comments questioning BHO's eloquence, and an objection to bullying, have cost me 70 karma points. Perfect open discussion and not bullying here.

XD

187 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:24:43pm

re: #183 MikeySDCA

I love it! A few innocuous comments questioning BHO's eloquence, and an objection to bullying, have cost me 70 karma points. Perfect open discussion and not bullying here.

You're being a douche.

188 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:24:48pm

We were at Brat Puppy's dog show today. I got to meet lots of dogs and Brat Puppy didn't win.

Lots of puppy love and I am exhausted.

189 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:26:02pm

re: #172 Dark_Falcon

I have nothing against gay people, but I felt that what you were saying seemed to be accusing me of being gay, a tactic sometimes used to tear people down.

Is that really a tactic you see used here very often? A site as pro-gay rights as LGF?

190 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:27:04pm

re: #184 palomino

Sure as hell sounded like more than a joke.

191 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:27:29pm

re: #170 MikeySDCA

In a context where he was being lauded as a preternaturally eloquent genius, I was trying to lower the level of incense in the room. Evidently without success.

Nobody looks at Obama as perfect, but he has his abilities and when compared to his opponent giving him credit for those abilities is hardly out of line.

192 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:27:29pm

re: #179 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, seriously. Kevin D. Williamson is an excellent writer, and NR is luck to have him, but his reply to 'LoJ' was more hostile and seemed directly aiming at smacking Obama down. Gelinas is much less hostile and presents a more clever,less 'smashmouth' tale.

I've heard it all before. Don't care anymore. NR has a lot of bad history which continues to this day. I'm sure he makes a lot of his sense to conservatives but asking me to ready that and take it seriously ain't gonna happen. I'm never going back again. Ever. These are my roots and I'm sticking with it. Until then:

Image: Obama-SCOTUS.jpg

193 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:27:56pm

re: #172 Dark_Falcon

I have nothing against gay people, but I felt that what you were saying seemed to be accusing me of being gay, a tactic sometimes used to tear people down.

Nope, that's not what he did.

194 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:28:48pm

SOMEONE CLICKED ON SOMETHING ON THE INTERNET!!! OH GOD! OH, THE HUMANITY! GET OUT OF THE WAY PLEASE!

195 Varek Raith  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:29:15pm

The NR?
The publication that knowingly employed how many white nationalists for how long?
Yeah, no.

196 [deleted]  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:29:26pm
197 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:29:40pm

re: #183 MikeySDCA

I love it! A few innocuous comments questioning BHO's eloquence, and an objection to bullying, have cost me 70 karma points. Perfect open discussion and no bullying here.

You really think that's bullying?

198 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:29:56pm

So, I was talking with a "trying very hard to stay current" conservative. A person having a very difficult time with it all. Anyway, we were talking about LGBT topics and the biggest issue is that that person is afraid teenagers will experiment with the "lifestyle.".

My answer was, "So What?"

As this person has a relative or two who is LGBT and is totally supportive of them because they are good people, the concept was totally a conflict in their mind.

IMHO, teenagers experiment with sex regardless of anything we teach or don't teach. The only difference is whether or not they take away a sense of guilt and shame because of what is taught or not taught.

Those emotions are far more damaging than the experimentation itself.

199 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:30:16pm

re: #197 b_sharp

You really think that's bullying?

YOU'RE DOING IT AGAIN!

200 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:30:46pm

re: #187 Gus

You're being a douche.

If we're all getting a bee in our bonnets tonight, why do we use douche as an insult, but not enema?

Is this misogynist?

201 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:30:48pm

re: #190 Dark_Falcon

Sure as hell sounded like more than a joke.

I'm neutral on the subject.

When guys start talking like that I am in no position to judge the intent.

Guys can get very wierd about it. IMHO

202 Varek Raith  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:31:11pm

re: #199 Kragar

YOU'RE DOING IT AGAIN!

Gay.

203 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:31:21pm

re: #200 Mostly sane, most of the time.

If we're all getting a bee in our bonnets tonight, why do we use douche as an insult, but not enema?

Is this misogynist?

I think most men would rather be a douche than an emena?

Is it really an LGBT diss?

204 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:31:21pm

re: #170 MikeySDCA

In a context where he was being lauded as a preternaturally eloquent genius, I was trying to lower the level of incense in the room. Evidently without success.

Maybe he's not Einstein; on the other hand, he is clearly smarter than about 99%+ of the humans roaming the earth. And, given his background, he's more successful than about 99.99999% of humans who have ever walked the planet. So your flippant RW talking points from 2009 do nothing but repeat a broken record.

205 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:31:27pm

re: #198 ggt

So, I was talking with a "trying very hard to stay current" conservative. A person having a very difficult time with it all. Anyway, we were talking about LGBT topics and the biggest issue is that that person is afraid teenagers will experiment with the "lifestyle.".

My answer was, "So What?"

As this person has a relative or two who is LGBT and is totally supportive of them because they are good people, the concept was totally a conflict in their mind.

IMHO, teenagers experiment with sex regardless of anything we teach or don't teach. The only difference is whether or not they take away a sense of guilt and shame because of what is taught or not taught.

Those emotions are far more damaging than the experimentation itself.

Just so long as they don't get pregnant.

206 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:32:05pm

re: #205 Kragar

Just so long as they don't get pregnant.

spread disease, use violence, children or animals.

I do have limits.

207 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:32:24pm

re: #203 ggt

I think most men would rather be a douche than an emena?

Is it really an LGBT diss?

I have no idea. I don't use it. I'm just wondering.

208 Targetpractice  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:32:30pm

re: #198 ggt

So, I was talking with a "trying very hard to stay current" conservative. A person having a very difficult time with it all. Anyway, we were talking about LGBT topics and the biggest issue is that that person is afraid teenagers will experiment with the "lifestyle.".

My answer was, "So What?"

As this person has a relative or two who is LGBT and is totally supportive of them because they are good people, the concept was totally a conflict in their mind.

IMHO, teenagers experiment with sex regardless of anything we teach or don't teach. The only difference is whether or not they take away a sense of guilt and shame because of what is taught or not taught.

Those emotions are far more damaging than the experimentation itself.

Come on, you know better! Experimentation is wrong unless done in the proper place: college!

///

209 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:34:00pm

re: #201 ggt

I'm neutral on the subject.

When guys start talking like that I am in no position to judge the intent.

Guys can get very wierd about it. IMHO

Knowing DF and his right-leaning self, I do think the poster *might* have had an idea how it would have been taken.

Guys can be wierdly sensitive on the subject.

I don't get it. AT ALL

210 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:34:19pm

re: #206 ggt

spread disease, use violence, children or animals.

I do have limits.

Pregnancy is not often a danger during homosexual experimentation.

211 Interesting Times  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:34:50pm

re: #200 Mostly sane, most of the time.

If we're all getting a bee in our bonnets tonight, why do we use douche as an insult, but not enema?

Is this misogynist?

No, not at all. I explain why here :)

212 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:34:59pm

re: #190 Dark_Falcon

Sure as hell sounded like more than a joke.

Go back and read the post. He wasn't making fun of you for being gay. He was making fun of you for being a Republican.

213 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:36:13pm

re: #210 Kragar

Pregnancy is not often a danger during homosexual experimentation.

I've heard that . . .

AND a lot of "experimentation" is what I would call foreplay. Again, no pregnancy danger, but there danger of spreading disease.

A lot of kids don't realize that.

214 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:38:31pm

Another thing I've noticed about right-leaning men is that they have a hard time taking words at face value.

There seems to be some built-in filter that translates everything to "man speak".

Everything is considered a challenge or attempt at dominance.

I DON'T GET IT AT ALL.

I find it a real communication problem. Once guys realize I am "speaking girl" they calm down. I don't think many have learned the ability to do that if the speaker is a straight male.

215 Interesting Times  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:38:33pm

re: #211 Interesting Times

No, not at all. I explain why here :)

And here too:

In terms of women's health, douching - contrary to the "oh so fresh feeling" marketing malarkey - is completely unnecessary, destroying the vagina's natural, healthy pH balance and leaving women more vulnerable to infections.

So, what better word to describe a person who, while pretending to be important and righteous, is actually useless at best, harmful and destructive at worst? :)

216 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:39:40pm

re: #196 MikeySDCA

Tu quoque.

You made some stupid comments earlier during your sudden inspiration for trolling this afternoon. I noticed those and ignored them since I really didn't care. You got down dinged left and right and made the bottom ten which led you to get really pissed off. Not just pissed off but depressed and probably a little bit sad. Then you came back -- not willing to count your losses -- and stuck your foot in your mouth with your belly aching and that "Beloved Leader" troll bait. You're continuing this behavior leads me only to believe that your acting similarly to what is colloquially called a douche bag interjected with the occasional troll bait.

217 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:39:54pm

re: #215 Interesting Times

And here too:

It is also NOT an effective form of contraception.

Although it was used for centuries as one --with varied results.

218 blueraven  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:40:22pm

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

Both Kevin D. Williamson and Nicle Gelinas have written columns using narratives to go after the Obama campaign's "Life of Julia". Of the two, I think Gelinas has the better one. It not nasty-hostile like Willianson's, but it makes its point and cuts Obama down a peg.

Check it out here.

Actually it starts out with a false premise, so the whole thing is stupid.

Age 0: Zachary is born. Nine months earlier, Julia’s government-provided birth control failed

Fail

219 goddamnedfrank  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:40:28pm

re: #183 MikeySDCA

I love it! A few innocuous comments questioning BHO's eloquence, and an objection to bullying, have cost me 70 karma points. Perfect open discussion and no bullying here.

I recently passed the coveted 4:1 karma ratio. Sure, like anything worth doing well there's a massive amount of whoring involved, but my biggest secret is basic situational awareness, something you're sorely lacking. If you make a stupid joke or something, know when to cut your losses, don't keep goddamned perseverating trying to hammer home your bullshit, unwelcome stupid opinion. People differ here, if for whatever reason you find yourself unable sell your point of view with a modicum of skill or talent then the answer isn't to keep whining about it over and over again, the answer is to shut the fuck up and then go talk to someone who demonstrably gives a shit.

But by all means, feel free to ignore this bit of advice and continue in your running cock fight with reality.

220 goddamnedfrank  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:43:16pm

re: #215 Interesting Times

And here too:

This is probably an awkward time to ask you to marry me.

221 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:44:29pm

re: #220 goddamnedfrank

This is probably an awkward time to ask you to marry me.

Certainly not very romantic!

:0

222 Interesting Times  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:46:22pm

re: #218 blueraven

Actually it starts out with a false premise, so the whole thing is stupid.

Age 0: Zachary is born. Nine months earlier, Julia’s government-provided birth control failed

Bwahaha, what an over-stuffed bag of disingenous derp, bursting at the seams with bloated bovine excrement. Thank you for reading that so my earlier decision not to is entirely validated ;)

223 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:46:40pm

re: #215 Interesting Times

And here too:

In terms of women's health, douching - contrary to the "oh so fresh feeling" marketing malarkey - is completely unnecessary, destroying the vagina's natural, healthy pH balance and leaving women more vulnerable to infections.

So, what better word to describe a person who, while pretending to be important and righteous, is actually useless at best, harmful and destructive at worst? :)

Actually, I don't think I would use the words "important and righteous" to describe the perception of that particular hygienic activity. How about "beneficial?"

224 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:47:53pm

re: #223 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Actually, I don't think I would use the words "important and righteous" to describe the perception of that particular hygienic activity. How about "beneficial?"

Actually, there are women who have the "cleanliness is next to godliness" obsession. So 'important and righteous" could apply.

225 blueraven  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:48:48pm

re: #222 Interesting Times

Bwahaha, what an over-stuffed bag of disingenous derp, bursting at the seams with bloated bovine excrement. Thank you for reading that so my earlier decision not to is entirely validated ;)

It was my turn. Ive been slacking lately.

226 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:48:55pm

re: #223 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Actually, I don't think I would use the words "important and righteous" to describe the perception of that particular hygienic activity. How about "beneficial?"

Oh jeez. We used to call each other douche bags whenever warranted when we were young and never thought about sexual identity, gender, hygiene or anything like that. As friends too. Someone started acting like an asshole and boom, you got called a douche bag.

227 [deleted]  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:48:55pm
228 Interesting Times  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:49:46pm

re: #223 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Actually, I don't think I would use the words "important and righteous" to describe the perception of that particular hygienic activity. How about "beneficial?"

re: #224 ggt

Actually, there are women who have the "cleanliness is next to godliness" obsession. So 'important and righteous" could apply.

I rest my case ;)

229 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:51:11pm

re: #227 MikeySDCA

As Louis-Ferdinand Céline said in Mort à crédit

Next time just say "fuck y'all", storm off and come back later. That's what I do from time to time.

230 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:51:47pm

re: #226 Gus

Oh jeez. We used to call each other douche bags whenever warranted when we were young and never thought about sexual identity, gender, hygiene or anything like that. As friends too. Someone started acting like an asshole and boom, you got called a douche bag.

Look at that last sentence. Really, wouldn't "enema," work better here?

231 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:51:57pm

Still working on it...

232 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:52:23pm

Well, that one doesn't really work...

233 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:52:57pm

re: #230 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Look at that last sentence. Really, wouldn't "enema," work better here?

Too close to the poop chute.

//

234 blueraven  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:58:08pm

re: #227 MikeySDCA

As Louis-Ferdinand Céline said in Mort à crédit

Awww...don't go away mad.

235 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 5, 2012 9:58:13pm

re: #62 MikeySDCA

OT: Earlier today I posted some comments on Obama Speaks in Ohio which were evidently not deemed sufficiently respectful to the Beloved Leader by the local troll population. For the record, their names:

How do you like me now, guys?

That's nice of you, but if I want to see who down-dinged you, it's very easy for me to click the button myself.

Let 'er go, dude.

236 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:00:16pm

re: #104 Varek Raith

It must suck having to vote for Mitt.

God knows, there have been years I wasn't all that excited about the guy the Democrats were running.

237 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:00:16pm

re: #233 Gus

Oh noes...

238 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:00:49pm

Glad we got that settled.

//

239 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:02:52pm

re: #154 darthstar

I didn't insinuate you were gay...I just said it was okay with me if you were. No need to be defensive. There are a number of gay lizards here and they're okay with it.

Have you ever suggested any of them had secret straight lovers they were hiding from their parents?

240 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:04:57pm

re: #234 blueraven

Awww...don't go away mad.

Now we'll get endless pages of VDH as punishment for the next couple of weeks.

//

241 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:05:19pm

re: #184 palomino

He was obviously joking about the fact that so many social conservatives are actually closeted gays. You're not a socon, so he clearly wasn't talking about you...where's your sense of humor?

Oh, come on. He was totally talking about him, and in such a way that any reponse could then be used for further fuel.

"Dude, are you sekretly gay? Not that there's anything wrong with that..."

Not a neutral statement.

242 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:05:58pm

You know who else had good writers and read from a teleprompter?

//

243 Kragar  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:06:20pm

re: #242 Gus

You know who else had good writers and read from a teleprompter?

//

Jesus?

244 Targetpractice  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:06:31pm

re: #242 Gus

You know who else had good writers and read from a teleprompter?

//

Nixon?

245 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:06:39pm

re: #243 Kragar

Jesus?

You're getting warmer.

246 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:07:07pm

re: #244 Targetpractice

Nixon?

Nah. Nixon was a Marxist.

//

247 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:07:46pm

The nightly T-shirt Rant

Share if you like

Thank you for listening.

248 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:08:17pm

re: #242 Gus

You know who else had good writers and read from a teleprompter?

//

Genghis Khan?

249 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:08:46pm

Reagan!!!

250 Targetpractice  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:10:29pm

re: #248 SanFranciscoZionist

Genghis Khan?

KHHHAAANNN!!!

Sorry, you were saying?

//

251 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:11:00pm

re: #239 SanFranciscoZionist

Have you ever suggested any of them had secret straight lovers they were hiding from their parents?

I have a secret straight edge and a rotary cutter that I'm hiding from the kids.

One of them got himself with it a month ago. He was wearing his earbuds when I had told the kids to leave it alone.

252 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:11:33pm

re: #227 MikeySDCA

As Louis-Ferdinand Céline said in Mort à crédit

It looks like you're pissing into a strong wind.

253 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:13:16pm

It's kind of creepy that we've reached a stage in American society where if we find our president objectionable we treat him (or her at some future date) like a foreign enemy. WTF. You might not like Obama but enough of this disrespect of the president. Obama won fair and square. Treating him like foreign enemy and using words to describe him as those of a foreign enemy is repulsive.

254 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:13:24pm

re: #239 SanFranciscoZionist

Have you ever suggested any of them had secret straight lovers they were hiding from their parents?

EXCELLENT point!

255 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:14:41pm

I never once compared Romney to Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Kim Jung-Il, whatever. I may have called him a wingnut but believe you me being called a wingnut is nothing compared to the former. It's bullshit.

256 Interesting Times  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:15:03pm

re: #240 Gus

Now we'll get endless pages of VDH as punishment for the next couple of weeks.

Heh. Reminds me of the ridiculous hissy-fit he threw when Charles tweaked the Pages system to show "views" instead of "clicks". Instead of, you know, asking politely for an explanation of what the changes meant, he jumped right into wingnut conspiracy land, attributing the adjustments to all manner of nefarious, speech-silencing motives. 9_9

257 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:17:46pm

re: #256 Interesting Times

Heh. Reminds me of the ridiculous hissy-fit he threw when Charles tweaked the Pages system to show "views" instead of "clicks". Instead of, you know, asking politely for an explanation of what the changes meant, he jumped right into wingnut conspiracy land, attributing the adjustments to all manner of nefarious, speech-silencing motives. 9_9

What? I missed that. That was around the time of his almost flounce no? Heck, half the time all I was seeing was his pages. I don't get it. I've even grown accustomed to his VDH pages and blow them off most of the time.

Sorry Mickey. We're not going to let you flounce. You're stuck here in the LGF Gulag and you shall be subjected to our torture from time to time. Bwahahaha!!! //

258 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:19:00pm

bbiab

259 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:19:40pm

And come on. You expect to come into LGF now and talk shit about Obama during an election year and go unnoticed. Be real dude. That's not going to happen.

260 [deleted]  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:20:00pm
261 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:20:50pm

re: #183 MikeySDCA

I love it! A few innocuous comments questioning BHO's eloquence, and an objection to bullying, have cost me 70 karma points. Perfect open discussion and no bullying here.

No toaster for you!

262 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:22:53pm

re: #260 MikeySDCA

Way back when, after I had been here a while but before Charles and the herd had been on the road to Damascus, I spent a while with negative karma. I was too liberal.

My views have not changed particularly. I'm still a conservative of the school of Edmund Burke and Alexander Hamilton. I'm still being down-dinged. C'est la vie.

I can sort of relate. It's interesting to hold still and let a blog rotate around you.

But teleprompter slams are STILL gonna get you down-dinged around here, and ain't nothing anyone is going to say will change that.

263 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:22:54pm

re: #219 goddamnedfrank

What color toaster did you order?

264 Mich-again  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:22:56pm

My girlfriend.. she thinks I'm a stalker.. Well, she's not exactly my girlfriend..

265 b_sharp  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:23:12pm

re: #260 MikeySDCA

Way back when, after I had been here a while but before Charles and the herd had been on the road to Damascus, I spent a while with negative karma. I was too liberal.

My views have not changed particularly. I'm still a conservative of the school of Edmund Burke and Alexander Hamilton. I'm still being down-dinged. C'est la vie.

We all have our crosses to bear.

266 [deleted]  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:26:17pm
267 palomino  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:34:21pm

re: #266 MikeySDCA

It was not intended as a slam. It was a factual observation which produced a hysterical overreaction.

You want to know why people are pissed off by your reference to teleprompters. Think about the context. For the last 4 years, right wing commentators have been hysterical about everything regarding Obama, including his use of a teleprompter. It's such a played out talking point, totally vacuous, and people are sick of hearing about it.

268 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:35:49pm

re: #266 MikeySDCA

It was not intended as a slam. It was a factual observation which produced a hysterical overreaction.

That's also going to happen sometimes.

Of course, calling out everyone who overreacted by name on a different thread could also be considered an overreaction.

269 Interesting Times  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:35:51pm

re: #266 MikeySDCA

It was not intended as a slam. It was a factual observation which produced a hysterical overreaction.

The problem is with the way you choose to express things. Snide, condescending, passive-aggressive one-liners coupled with a "you're too stupid to understand my rhetorical brilliance" attitude won't be received well under any circumstances.

And it's ironic you would complain about your so-called "innocent" comments being interpreted negatively when you did an exponential version of that very thing to Charles (i.e. assuming his adjustments to the Paging system were a nefarious plot to suppress your submissions - many of which were Featured, and updinged by others here, myself included.)

270 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:36:00pm

re: #266 MikeySDCA

It was not intended as a slam. It was a factual observation which produced a hysterical overreaction.

You should chill. It wasn't a "hysterical overreaction." If you think it was you'll only breed more, what's the word, vindictiveness. The angrier you get the more you're rhetoric will be heated. It becomes a viscous cycle. You'll get over this. I know you can. Don't let it build up.

271 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:37:06pm

re: #270 Gus

You should chill. It wasn't a "hysterical overreaction." If you think it was you'll only breed more, what's the word, vindictiveness. The angrier you get the more you're rhetoric will be heated. It becomes a viscous cycle. You'll get over this. I know you can. Don't let it build up.

Viscous cycles are all gooey.

272 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:37:33pm

re: #271 SanFranciscoZionist

Viscous cycles are all gooey.

They make life gooey. Might as will minimize. ;)

273 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:38:14pm

re: #266 MikeySDCA

It was not intended as a slam. It was a factual observation which produced a hysterical overreaction.

That Obama uses a teleprompter was a factual observation, though somewhat trite. "BFD" was an opinion and wide open to debate.

274 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:38:15pm
275 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:38:49pm

re: #274 ggt

Is this over-the-top or creative?

Better! A sick mind. Nice. ;)

276 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:38:53pm
277 Artist  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:39:01pm

re: #274 ggt

Is this over-the-top or creative?

Can we say both?

278 Interesting Times  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:39:32pm

re: #274 ggt

Is this over-the-top or creative?

"Oh, so you won't leggo of my Eggo. Well, I have ways of dealing with that..."

279 blueraven  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:41:09pm

re: #266 MikeySDCA

It was not intended as a slam. It was a factual observation which produced a hysterical overreaction.

It was a slam dude.

280 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:50:42pm

re: #266 MikeySDCA

It was not intended as a slam. It was a factual observation which produced a hysterical overreaction.

You know, I can understand the idea that you didn't think of it as a slam. But it was. Still, stuff happens; all you really need to do is put a tick mark in the "OOPS" column and carry on.

Be that as it may be, I enjoy many of your pages so I'll take a moment here and say thank you as well.

281 Mocking Jay  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:52:42pm

re: #266 MikeySDCA

It was not intended as a slam. It was a factual observation which produced a hysterical overreaction.

HOLY SHIT OBAMA USES A TELEPROMPTER THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION EDWARD R FUCKING MURROW!

282 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 10:52:55pm
283 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, May 5, 2012 11:07:56pm

Sweet dreams, all. Till later in the day...

284 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 11:14:52pm
286 freetoken  Sat, May 5, 2012 11:26:18pm
287 Gus  Sat, May 5, 2012 11:28:28pm

re: #286 freetoken

[Embedded content]

Lo espero hombre.

288 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 5, 2012 11:51:44pm

nytol

MS WALK is tomorrow.

Think of me.

289 Kragar  Sun, May 6, 2012 12:59:54am

and now... Anthrax

290 freetoken  Sun, May 6, 2012 1:08:19am
291 researchok  Sun, May 6, 2012 1:26:15am

Morning, all

292 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, May 6, 2012 1:41:41am

re: #141 MikeySDCA

I pointed out that he read well from a teleprompter and had good writers. Neither is in dispute. You, among others, seems to be overreacting. Is there an element of secret doubt here? Do you fear that the idol has feet of clay?

There is actually no doubt about Obama's rhetorical ability, both in writing and in speaking (remember that conference Obama had with the Republicans on healthcare? He whipped them without any teleprompter).

293 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, May 6, 2012 2:02:20am

re: #9 Killgore Trout

Koskidz outline their strategy to silence political opponents and potty mouthed shock jocks (with bonus crap about Rawandan genocide)
Rush Limbaugh Backlash Evolves & Grows

Good. Rush Limbaugh has a right to free speech, but nobody is obligated to help him with expressing it.

294 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 2:51:49am

Ladies and Gentlemen, expect my opinion of the Serbia slide more tomorrow. They will have an election tomorrow, and a nationalist party who is affliated with War Criminals is expected to win.

295 Eventual Carrion  Sun, May 6, 2012 4:10:02am

re: #177 goddamnedfrank

Telepromtrix

Talk QWERTY to me!

296 Dire Straits  Sun, May 6, 2012 4:26:06am

Good morning!

297 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 6, 2012 5:10:35am

Morning all!

No MS Walk for me and the kid today. Kid either has a nasty bought of food poisoning or a very unfriendly virus. Called the ER and the symptoms are going around.

Got him some Gatorade, and am standing watch. Hubby is Walking.

How is your morning going?

298 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, May 6, 2012 5:17:12am

re: #260 MikeySDCA

Way back when, after I had been here a while but before Charles and the herd had been on the road to Damascus, I spent a while with negative karma. I was too liberal.

My views have not changed particularly. I'm still a conservative of the school of Edmund Burke and Alexander Hamilton. I'm still being down-dinged. C'est la vie.

That makes it sound like the down-dings have little to do with your views. Maybe it has to do with your presentation and discussion style?

299 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, May 6, 2012 5:20:57am

re: #297 ggt

Morning all!

No MS Walk for me and the kid today. Kid either has a nasty bought of food poisoning or a very unfriendly virus. Called the ER and the symptoms are going around.

Got him some Gatorade, and am standing watch. Hubby is Walking.

How is your morning going?

Quiet and overcast here in Philly. Feline Overlord got me up to feed him, so I'm sitting here catching up and eating store bought apple strudel.

300 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 6, 2012 5:21:29am

re: #241 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, come on. He was totally talking about him, and in such a way that any reponse could then be used for further fuel.

"Dude, are you sekretly gay? Not that there's anything wrong with that..."

Not a neutral statement.

Thank you, SFZ. Thank you much for your defense of me while I was not here.

301 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 6, 2012 5:28:24am

re: #298 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

That makes it sound like the down-dings have little to do with your views. Maybe it has to do with your presentation and discussion style?

The problem is that these days it seems that just posting a positive reaction to a Republican office-seeker is enough to get SteelPH and publicityStunted to downding you. That makes me, at least, feel that the 'Unwelcome' mat has been rolled out for anyone right of center.

302 Artist  Sun, May 6, 2012 5:34:03am

re: #301 Dark_Falcon

The problem is that these days it seems that just posting a positive reaction to a Republican office-seeker is enough to get SteelPH and publicityStunted to downding you. That makes me, at least, feel that the 'Unwelcome' mat has been rolled out for anyone right of center.

Scott Walker and Rick Scott are not right of center. They are off the cliff to the right.

No amount of whitewashing their bullshit is going to change otherwise.

303 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, May 6, 2012 5:45:11am

Hmm. My clock and the sun must be wrong and it's still last night. I think I'll just go back to bed.

304 Aye Pod  Sun, May 6, 2012 5:45:43am

re: #183 MikeySDCA

I love it! A few innocuous comments questioning BHO's eloquence, and an objection to bullying, have cost me 70 karma points. Perfect open discussion and no bullying here.

Open discussion doesn't mean agreement, and equating a loss of 70 karma points to bullying is a laughable abuse of the term. Oh, and nice touch ramping up the troll factor by slipping in a little 'BHO' there.

305 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 6, 2012 5:47:50am

re: #303 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Hmm. My clock and the sun must be wrong and it's still last night. I think I'll just go back to bed.

I think that sounds like a wonderful idea, PROCEED!

306 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 6, 2012 5:53:09am

re: #302 Artist

Scott Walker and Rick Scott are not right of center. They are off the cliff to the right.

No amount of whitewashing their bullshit is going to change otherwise.

But yesterday you downdinged me for replying to Varek's "It must suck to have to vote for Mitt" with "It sucks more to vote for Obama." So it isn't just those two; You downdinged a partisan reply to partisanship, and didn't downding the original partisanship.

307 Aye Pod  Sun, May 6, 2012 6:23:51am

Ben Stiller film renamed due to Trayvon Martin shooting

A Ben Stiller comedy has been given a new title to avoid it being linked to the controversial shooting of an unarmed teenager in Florida.

Neighborhood Watch had already had promotional material pulled following the death of Trayvon Martin, who was killed by a Neighborhood Watch volunteer.

The film, which also stars Vince Vaughn, will now be called The Watch.

308 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 6, 2012 6:25:27am

re: #307 Aye Pod

Ben Stiller film renamed due to Trayvon Martin shooting

Smart move. Although some people may now think its about a Rolex. :)

309 Varek Raith  Sun, May 6, 2012 6:31:46am

re: #306 Dark_Falcon

But yesterday you downdinged me for replying to Varek's "It must suck to have to vote for Mitt" with "It sucks more to vote for Obama." So it isn't just those two; You downdinged a partisan reply to partisanship, and didn't downding the original partisanship.

It sucks to be human. :)

310 Varek Raith  Sun, May 6, 2012 6:33:18am

re: #308 Dark_Falcon

Smart move. Although some people may now think its about a Rolex. :)

Swatch!

311 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 6, 2012 6:34:58am

re: #309 Varek Raith

It sucks to be human. :)

Well, sometimes that's true, but not most of the time.

312 Varek Raith  Sun, May 6, 2012 6:36:01am

re: #311 Dark_Falcon

Well, sometimes that's true, but not most of the time.

Then you take these allergies. I'd appreciate it. :P

313 Aye Pod  Sun, May 6, 2012 6:38:27am

Well, I was going to hang out here a while, but then I took an arrow in the knee...

besides it's lunchtime. Later :)

314 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 6:40:13am

re: #308 Dark_Falcon

Are we really going to allow a perfectly good organization be sullied by one racist nut who wasn't even part of the official Neighborhood Watch?

315 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 6:42:01am

Also, early this morning something weird happened in Peru:

Hundreds of dolphins and more than 1,000 birds, mostly pelicans, die on the coast in the north of Peru.

Peru's Government has taken an extremely rational and good course of action. I am dead serious on saying this:

The government of Peru has warned people to stay off beaches along large stretches of its coastline as it investigates the mysterious deaths of hundreds of dolphins and seabirds.

316 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 6, 2012 6:43:41am

re: #314 ProGunLiberal

Are we really going to allow a perfectly good organization be sullied by one racist nut who wasn't even part of the official Neighborhood Watch?

no, we're not. But for the moment its better to just rename the movie and avoid the bad impression. Neighborhood Watch will get past this, but it is going to take some time.

317 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 6:44:52am

Meanwhile, the Algerian supported Ansar Dine has started destroying chunks of Timbuktu.

Mali Islamist militants 'destroy' Timbuktu saint's tomb

Islamist fighters said to be linked to al-Qaeda have destroyed the tomb of a local Muslim saint in the Malian town of Timbuktu, officials and locals say.

Algeria is a rogue state. Treat them as such. Also, pull out of Afghanistan for the time being. With Pakistan interfering, we will get no progress.

318 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 6, 2012 6:47:30am

re: #317 ProGunLiberal

Meanwhile, the Algerian supported Ansar Dine has started destroying chunks of Timbuktu.

Mali Islamist militants 'destroy' Timbuktu saint's tomb

Algeria is a rogue state. Treat them as such. Also, pull out of Afghanistan for the time being. With Pakistan interfering, we will get no progress.

Can't leave Afghanistan yet. We've got a timetable and we have to follow it or we'll look worse. Also Karzai wants us to stay through the next presidential election there, one he cannot run in. And I think that a reasonable request, to make sure their new president has time to get into office before we leave.

319 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 6:52:13am

re: #318 Dark_Falcon

I'm getting rather ticked at Algeria though. They are bullying Morocco, supporting radicals who have now infect the entire Northeastern 30-40% of Africa, and assisted Qaddafi last year.

Just for the Morocco thing alone, I want to swat them. And I won't lump the people into this. The Algerians are under a nasty China/Russia supported dictatorship. They can't do squat.

Unlike the Serbians or Greeks. Who still support ethnic cleansing and genocide, as shown by the results of their elections.

320 Only The Lurker Knows  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:02:46am

re: #274 ggt

Is this over-the-top or creative?

Let go of my Eggo!

321 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:08:14am

re: #319 ProGunLiberal

I'm getting rather ticked at Algeria though. They are bullying Morocco, supporting radicals who have now infect the entire Northeastern 30-40% of Africa, and assisted Qaddafi last year.

Just for the Morocco thing alone, I want to swat them. And I won't lump the people into this. The Algerians are under a nasty China/Russia supported dictatorship. They can't do squat.

Unlike the Serbians or Greeks. Who still support ethnic cleansing and genocide, as shown by the results of their elections.

Let it go, PLL. Algeria is not something that's going to be dealt with. There is no appetite in NATO for getting involved in another another Arab country. Iraq was bad enough, no one wants to do that sort of thing right now.

322 Interesting Times  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:15:47am

re: #306 Dark_Falcon

But yesterday you downdinged me for replying to Varek's "It must suck to have to vote for Mitt" with "It sucks more to vote for Obama." So it isn't just those two; You downdinged a partisan reply to partisanship, and didn't downding the original partisanship.

It has nothing to do with partisanship, and everything to do with what the republican party has come to represent.

One of my best friends from high school is gay, and married to her partner thanks to the Democratic gov of WA. If she were in a GOPer state, not only would her marriage be impossible, but she would be forbidden from visiting her wife in the hospital*. How would you like it if your best friend (whose opinion you almost always absorb as your own) were subjected to treatment like that? Would you vote for the people who did it?

*And I can't help but notice you downdinged that page. Don't complain about "partisan" downdings when you do something even worse, i.e. "kill the messenger".

323 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:24:26am

re: #322 Interesting Times

Actually, her being forbidden from visiting is no certain thing, as the law carries no such mandate. It simply says that hospitals cannot be compelled to allow such visits. And as Wisconsin does not recognize such couples as married...

324 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:31:25am

re: #323 Dark_Falcon

Actually, her being forbidden from visiting is no certain thing, as the law carries no such mandate. It simply says that hospitals cannot be compelled to allow such visits. And as Wisconsin does not recognize such couples as married...

In other words hospitals would be allowed to discriminate against same-sex couple thus allowing the bigotry to continue. It's wrong and the Wisconsin Republicans are wrong as is the worst governor in the USA, Scott Walker. Bigots all.

325 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:35:07am

re: #324 Gus

To me it is a matter of small import. Walker is attending to the things that matter and that earns my support.

326 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:35:21am

Suspect in bridge bombing plot signed lease on Occupy Cleveland warehouse

"We have a person facing terrorism charges on the lease of our warehouse," said one of the leaders. "If this gets into the media, it would be a disaster."

327 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:37:40am

re: #325 Dark_Falcon

To me it is a matter of small import. Walker is attending to the things that matter and that earns my support.

Attending to things that matter to YOU. So you're perfectly willing to support a governor that maintain a system of institutionalized bigotry against gay men and women.

328 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:38:19am
329 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:42:23am

re: #328 Gus

Who the fuck cares.

Lots of people. People in Ohio care, People who use that bridge care, the FBI cares and the criminal justice systems cares. You don't have to care but other people do.

330 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:42:47am

Still having lots of fun and diversion with Photoshop and cafepress.

What are you doing?

331 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:43:38am

re: #327 Gus

Attending to things that matter to YOU. So you're perfectly willing to support a governor that maintain a system of institutionalized bigotry against gay men and women.

Ultimately, yes. Taming the state of Wisconsin's finances and getting the economy moving in the right direction are far more important than hospital visit for a small minority.

The small minority isn't nothing, you understand, and if it was something on the level of active persecution I'd have a different view. But that isn't what this is, so the larger issues must be paramount.

332 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:47:15am

re: #329 Killgore Trout

Lots of people. People in Ohio care, People who use that bridge care, the FBI cares and the criminal justice systems cares. You don't have to care but other people do.

No shit. Really? You can go over to DoD and write a headline for them, "Gus doesn't care about domestic terrorism or the people that could have died from the bombing of bridge." Typical wingnut logic. It's "who the fuck cares" within the context of you trolling this place with your OWS concern ever since the first days of October 2011.

333 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:47:16am

re: #328 Gus

Who the fuck cares.

Occupy Cleveland make care a great deal. Because if the plotters used that warehouse to store bomb making materials or train in terrorist tactics, then I believe the lease can be voided and OcC* kicked out.

OcC= Occupy Cleaveland. OC was already taken.

334 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:47:59am

re: #330 ggt

Still having lots of fun and diversion with Photoshop and cafepress.

What are you doing?

I'm procrastinating. Too many things that need to be done today and I'm feeling overwhelmed. Most importantly I have to take apart my washing machine again and I'm not looking forward to it. Things around here are breaking faster than I can fix them.

335 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:49:08am

re: #334 Killgore Trout

I'm procrastinating. Too many things that need to be done today and I'm feeling overwhelmed. Most importantly I have to take apart my washing machine again and I'm not looking forward to it. Things around here are breaking faster than I can fix them.

Time to get a new washing machine, I'd wager.

336 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:49:17am

re: #332 Gus

No shit. Really? You can go over to DoD and write a headline for them, "Gus doesn't care about domestic terrorism or the people that could have died from the bombing of bridge." Typical wingnut logic. It's "who the fuck cares" within the context of you trolling this place with your OWS concern ever since the first days of October 2011.

Yeah, it a pretty shitty movement. Worse than even I expected back then. They've just gotten worse over time.

337 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:50:59am

re: #335 Dark_Falcon

Time to get a new washing machine, I'd wager.

They're a lot more expensive than I thought. My money situation will improve later this summer so I really don't want to go cheap and buy another shitty old used one. If I can get this one to last a few more months I'll be able to afford a nice quality machine.

338 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:55:41am

re: #334 Killgore Trout

I'm procrastinating. Too many things that need to be done today and I'm feeling overwhelmed. Most importantly I have to take apart my washing machine again and I'm not looking forward to it. Things around here are breaking faster than I can fix them.

I can relate --photoshop and cafepress is an escape as well. My list is way, way too long.

339 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:59:25am

At what point do we decide that human right issues ARE economic issues?

Seriously?

When (tonite's t-shirt) Economics 101 -Controlling Reproduction is ignored?

When A person's personal living arrangement (benefits etc) are ignored?

When the 1%'s hold the rest of us hostage for laize-faire financial regulation?

When Science Education is being underminded?

When Individuals are going bankrupt due to an inefficient Health Care system?

When the last 8 years of republican administration did not focus on domestic issues?

340 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 6, 2012 7:59:40am

re: #332 Gus

No shit. Really? You can go over to DoD and write a headline for them, "Gus doesn't care about domestic terrorism or the people that could have died from the bombing of bridge." Typical wingnut logic. It's "who the fuck cares" within the context of you trolling this place with your OWS concern ever since the first days of October 2011.

Why the Hell would he do that?! Killgore's not like Rodan, Gus: He doesn't blow things out of proportion in order to attack individuals. And saying someone should become a Stalker is just ugly.

341 RogueOne  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:02:21am

Morning All.

I don't know if you guys have noted the update on the Scott Walker story. It's a year old.
[Link: www.forbes.com...]

The last chapter of the story:

Judge upholds Wisconsin domestic partnership law
[Link: host.madison.com...]

In a 53-page decision, Circuit Court Judge Daniel Moeser said the registry, which went into effect Aug. 1, 2009, does not violate the Marriage Amendment to the state's Constitution passed in 2006.

The Wisconsin Family Action plans on appealing but....

Attorneys who defended former Gov. Jim Doyle and other parties in the lawsuit, however, said Moeser made it clear in his ruling that it was not a close call.

So there's that.

342 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:04:19am

re: #339 ggt

At what point do we decide that human right issues ARE economic issues?

Seriously?


When the 1%'s hold the rest of us hostage for laize-faire financial regulation?

When the last 8 years of republican administration did not focus on domestic issues?

Laize-faire? Financial regulations sure aren't that, and haven't been for a very long time.

And don't try the Blame Bush routine on this one. It's an absolute non-sequiter.

And lastly, I'd note that our Constitution does not support the concept of "positive economic rights".

343 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:10:57am

re: #341 RogueOne

Morning All.

I don't know if you guys have noted the update on the Scott Walker story. It's a year old.
[Link: www.forbes.com...]

The last chapter of the story:

Judge upholds Wisconsin domestic partnership law
[Link: host.madison.com...]

The Wisconsin Family Action plans on appealing but...

So there's that.

Well ain't that just a kick in the ass.

BBL

344 sattv4u2  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:26:13am

re: #328 Gus

Who the fuck cares.

Kilgore (amongst others)

Why should you care what he (or others) care about?

Or do we all have to care about the same things to the same degrees?

I see a post (or thread) ((with or without link)) that I don't care about, I move along!

345 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:27:37am

re: #342 Dark_Falcon

Laize-faire? Financial regulations sure aren't that, and haven't been for a very long time.

And don't try the Blame Bush routine on this one. It's an absolute non-sequiter.

And lastly, I'd note that our Constitution does not support the concept of "positive economic rights".

Laise-Fairre, DF--really?

The financial regulations that were put in place to prevent another great depression were systematically broken down for the last 30 years -- Dodd-Frank was an attempt to correct that as well as to reign-in the Shadow Banking System.

The idea that there is too much regulation is a LIE told by the Wall Street Types to hold the rest of us hostage. They won't let their money out into the market right now, using the "strong regulation and of tax laws" as an excuse.

I've done the research, you can go back thru the Pages if you are interested.

346 sattv4u2  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:30:35am

A Florida man is charged with felony drunken driving and wildlife violations after police discovered a small monkey in his truck.

[Link: hosted.ap.org...]

You mean everybody doesn't usually have a small monkey in their truck?

347 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:30:57am

re: #346 sattv4u2

A Florida man is charged with felony drunken driving and wildlife violations after police discovered a small monkey in his truck.

[Link: hosted.ap.org...]

You mean everybody doesn't usually have a small monkey in their truck?

Mine is usually on my back.

348 sattv4u2  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:32:13am

re: #347 ggt

Mine is usually on my back.

Guy was drunk

Cops should have let the monkey drive,,, unless he was drunk too

349 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:32:54am

re: #348 sattv4u2

Guy was drunk

Cops should have let the monkey drive,,, unless he was drunk too

Monkey was probably the one that suggested going-out in the first place.

:0

350 sattv4u2  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:34:01am

re: #349 ggt

Monkey was probably the one that suggested going-out in the first place.

:0

Banana daiquiri's, no doubt

351 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:34:13am

re: #331 Dark_Falcon

DF - two thoughts.

1) Scooter came into office with a small surplus. A surplus. His deficits were created by his give aways to those who had him elected. Then he said we had to gut the state to pay for his friends gifts. The tax payers are being abused by his pay for play corruption that makes what Tommy Thompson used to do look like the most honest politician in history.

2) The TP/GOP is actively persecuting women and LGBT. They are doing things to explicitly make their lives worse. They are explicitly telling big chunks of people that they are scum who should be dead because they aren't PC enough for the TP/GOP.

352 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:37:46am

Would lecti canis or lecto canis be correct?

353 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:38:01am

Major cyber attack aimed at natural gas pipeline companies

A major cyber attack is currently underway aimed squarely at computer networks belonging to US natural gas pipeline companies, according to alerts issued by the US Department of Homeland Security.

354 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:38:35am

re: #350 sattv4u2

Banana daiquiri's, no doubt

or schnapps.

355 sattv4u2  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:41:34am

re: #353 Killgore Trout

Kilgore

The Christian Science Monitor?

Really!!?

///(kill the messenger mode now off)

356 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:42:16am

I'm going back to bed.

3 hours sleep, sick kid, grumpy husband --I'm tired.

Have a great morning all!

357 sattv4u2  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:43:22am

re: #353 Killgore Trout

and BTW

Who the fuck cares.

:)

358 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:43:58am

re: #355 sattv4u2

Kilgore

The Christian Science Monitor?

Really!!?

///(kill the messenger mode now off)

Somebody recently did freak out over me linking to them because Christian was in the name. Oh, well.

359 Varek Raith  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:44:12am

I can broad-brush to.
J.T. Ready.
Your argument is invalid.

360 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:45:59am

Just in case you've ever tried to open a washing machine before, here are some tricks you need to know. If you just attack it with a screwdriver you're going to waste a lot of time. It's easy once you know the trick.
Washing Machine Repair

361 sattv4u2  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:48:20am

re: #358 Killgore Trout

Somebody recently did freak out over me linking to them because Christian was in the name. Oh, well.

{sigh}

Guess we better discount anything from
The San Jose MERCURY News (that stuff will kill you)
The Chicago SUN Times (too much exposure causes skin cancer)
The Arizona REPUBLIC (self explanatory)
The Arkansas DEMOCRAT Gazette (see above)

362 sattv4u2  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:50:30am

re: #360 Killgore Trout

I can't believe I'm actually watching this!!

363 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:51:37am

re: #362 sattv4u2

I can't believe I'm actually watching this!!

I spent a whole afternoon trying to figure it out myself until I decided to google.

364 sattv4u2  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:52:27am

re: #363 Killgore Trout

I spent a whole afternoon trying to figure it out myself until I decided to google.

Can we leave your sexual exploits out of this please

365 sattv4u2  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:53:15am

[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com...]

Islamic extremists desecrate Muslim saint's Timbuktu tomb

Okay ,,, but I'm missing the "WHY"!?!?

366 sagehen  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:53:55am

re: #292 May Day! May Day!

There is actually no doubt about Obama's rhetorical ability, both in writing and in speaking (remember that conference Obama had with the Republicans on healthcare? He whipped them without any teleprompter).

Which I'm sure he only saw the first five minutes of; it didn't take long for the Big O to start mopping the floor with congressmen, at which point Fox cut away (C-Span, MSNBC and CNN stayed on for the whole event).

Then Boehner and Cantor complained that Obama had blindsided them, forcing his way into the retreat (they'd invited him, and bragged for days ahead of time about the smackdown they were sure they'd be sending his way).

Anybody who wants to catch up, here it is:

367 RogueOne  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:55:19am

re: #360 Killgore Trout

Just in case you've ever tried to open a washing machine before, here are some tricks you need to know. If you just attack it with a screwdriver you're going to waste a lot of time. It's easy once you know the trick.
Washing Machine Repair

[Embedded content]

It comes apart quicker if you toss in a brick:

368 Varek Raith  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:55:25am

Generalissimo Obama
I'm told this is a credible source...
/

369 Lidane  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:56:01am

Morning Lizards! The wingnuts are going to blow a gasket:

Biden: I'm 'absolutely comfortable' with gay marriage

Vice President Joe Biden on Sunday said that's he's "absolutely comfortable" with married same-sex couples being granted the same rights as heterosexual pairs.

"I am absolutely comfortable with the fact that men marrying men, women marrying women, and heterosexual men and women marrying another are entitled to the same exact rights, all the civil rights, all the civil liberties," he told NBC's David Gregory on "Meet the Press." "And quite frankly, I don't see much of a distinction beyond that."

370 sattv4u2  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:56:47am

re: #367 RogueOne

It comes apart quicker if you toss in a brick:

[Embedded content]

But one will withstand at least two hours of cat spinning!!

[Link: www.myfoxny.com...]

371 Varek Raith  Sun, May 6, 2012 8:56:50am
372 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:01:20am

re: #368 Varek Raith

Generalissimo Obama
I'm told this is a credible source...
/

I see a Pulitzer for that one. Yeah. Free Beacon is the latest in trashy right-wing "journo-blogging".

373 Varek Raith  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:05:02am

re: #372 Gus

I see a Pulitzer for that one. Yeah. Free Beacon is the latest in trashy right-wing "journo-blogging".

OWS

374 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:07:14am

re: #371 Varek Raith

Oh, the end of the year is going to be awful.

375 sattv4u2  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:08:04am

re: #374 ProGunLiberal

Oh, the end of the year is going to be awful.

Especially if the Mayans are correct

376 Kronocide  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:08:49am

re: #368 Varek Raith

Generalissimo Obama
I'm told this is a credible source...
/

Other articles from the Objective Newsman Matthew Continetti:

Live Not By Obama’s Lies
Column: Don’t look now but the mainstream media may be starting to turn on Obama
BY: Matthew Continetti - April 27, 2012 5:00 am

Dog Eat Dog
Column: To win the coming nasty campaign, Romney must focus on Obama’s record and avoid distractions of news cycle
BY: Matthew Continetti - April 20, 2012 5:00 am

Stay the Course
Column: We will win this war on women
BY: Matthew Continetti - April 13, 2012 5:00 am

Marvelous
Column: Peevish POTUS has nothing to run on but demagogic attacks and demonization of Republicans
BY: Matthew Continetti - April 6, 2012 5:00 am

Democrats in Disarray
Column: A good week for the good guys – finally
BY: Matthew Continetti - March 30, 2012 5:00 am

A Derp a Week is all we ask.

377 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:10:10am

re: #375 sattv4u2

You should be swatted for that. I don't believe in psuedo-science that the Mayans themselves have called idiotic.

378 Varek Raith  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:10:56am

re: #377 ProGunLiberal

You should be swatted for that. I don't believe in psuedo-science that the Mayans themselves have called idiotic.

Methinks your sarcasm meter needs recalibration.

379 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:12:01am
380 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:12:11am

re: #378 Varek Raith

Maybe. I'm having a digestive issue after the pizza last night.

Think Jupiter.

381 Varek Raith  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:13:43am

re: #380 ProGunLiberal

Maybe. I'm having a digestive issue after the pizza last night.

Think Jupiter.

Hmm, we should declare a no-go zone within a 10km radius of you.
:P

382 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:14:43am

re: #381 Varek Raith

I really don't feel good. That could also be because I ate at least 5/8ths of the thing. May have taken to much.

384 sattv4u2  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:15:13am

re: #377 ProGunLiberal

You should be swatted for that. I don't believe in psuedo-science that the Mayans themselves have called idiotic.

For making a joke?

Well, alrighty, then!!!

385 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:16:49am

re: #384 sattv4u2

Sarcasm detector wasn't working. Sorry.

When do the results for the French Election come out?

386 Varek Raith  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:17:35am
387 Lidane  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:17:40am

re: #383 Assemble!

Puny Record.

‘THE AVENGERS’ NOW BIGGEST OPENER! Shocking $200M Record Domestic Weekend: Expecting $640+M Global From First 10 Days

This will be me on Tuesday, once my final presentation is done:

I'm all over seeing this movie.

388 Mocking Jay  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:20:03am

re: #386 Varek Raith

U Mad Bro?

Hm?

389 Varek Raith  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:20:36am

re: #388 Assemble!

Hm?

Damn. Troll attempt fail.

390 sattv4u2  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:20:56am

re: #385 ProGunLiberal

Sarcasm detector wasn't working. Sorry.

When do the results for the French Election come out?

Really? You're going with that?

A long standing joke here about the Mayan "end of times/ 2012" and you're attributing the ",,, should be swatted" to a broken "sarcasm detector"

Really?

391 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:21:57am

re: #390 sattv4u2

Sorry, I was a little punchy. I'll try not to be towards you on stuff from now on.

392 Kronocide  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:23:52am

Stephen King: Tax Me, for F@%&’s Sake!

And the meme will start:

In February, while discussing New Jersey's newly amended income-tax law, which allows the rich to pay less (proportionally) than the middle class, Christie was asked about Warren Buffett's observation that he paid less federal income taxes than his personal secretary, and that wasn't fair. "He should just write a check and shut up," Christie responded, with his typical verve. "I'm tired of hearing about it. If he wants to give the government more money, he's got the ability to write a check -- go ahead and write it."

Nothing like petty antagonism to respond to a point. This is the same irrational response as:

You're for war? Why don't you volunteer?

You believe in global warming? Why don't you quit driving cars?

This will likely be the response of the GOP and the wingtards: 'If you want to pay more have at it and wright the check.' It's not meant to continue a discussion, it's meant to end one.

393 sattv4u2  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:25:45am

Ah well

Shower, then off to forage around the grocery store

394 jaunte  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:25:49am

Chicago parking meter company wants more money; mayor balks

The private investors who run Chicago’s parking meters are doing better than expected, and now they’re demanding an additional $14 million they say they’re owed under obscure provisions of the wildly unpopular 2008 deal that privatized metered parking and caused rates to soar, records show.
...
Partnerships assembled by New York-based financial giant Morgan Stanley hold a 50.1 percent stake in Chicago Parking Meters. The rest of the company is owned by German financial company Allianz and the investment arms of the emirate of Abu Dhabi.

395 palomino  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:26:33am

re: #325 Dark_Falcon

To me it is a matter of small import. Walker is attending to the things that matter and that earns my support.

Ahh, yes, civil rights...a matter of "small import." Except to the tens of millions of Americans who happen to be gay. Can you feel empathy?

396 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:28:21am

re: #394 jaunte

And this is why you don't privatize social services. Right here.

397 sattv4u2  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:28:36am

re: #394 jaunte

For $1.15 billion, paid upfront, the City Council approved a plan championed by then-Mayor Richard M. Daley in 2008 that privatized Chicago’s 36,000 meters for 75 years. In a deal that was widely criticized for selling taxpayers short, Chicago Parking Meters was given the right to keep all meter revenues until 2084. Drivers have since seen sharp increases in parking rates under the deal.

After leaving office a year ago, Daley, along with his former corporation counsel and two top press aides, went to work for Katten Muchin Rosenmann LLP, the law firm that handled the parking meter deal for the city

heh

398 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:30:03am

re: #397 sattv4u2

Oh corruption, I do see it.

399 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:30:26am

re: #395 palomino

Ahh, yes, civil rights...a matter of "small import." Except to the tens of millions of Americans who happen to be gay. Can you feel empathy?

Turns out that the Republican's gay problem isn't the result of the Bryan Fischers of this world. Neither is it completely the result of the theocrats. It's far more mainstream within the Republican establishment. No amount of spin from the slimy Karl Rove or Donald Rumsfeld will change that.

400 Lidane  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:32:09am

re: #325 Dark_Falcon

To me it is a matter of small import. Walker is attending to the things that matter and that earns my support.

Seriously? Civil rights and equality for LGBT people are a matter of small import for you, and they don't matter? Not cool.

401 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:32:57am

This been paged yet?

Arizona bans funding of Planned Parenthood

(CNN) -- Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed off on a bill that will prevent abortion providers like Planned Parenthood from receiving public funds in most cases, her office said.

"This is a common sense law that tightens existing state regulations and closes loopholes in order to ensure that taxpayer dollars are not used to fund abortions, whether directly or indirectly," the governor said in a statement.

"By signing this measure into law, I stand with the majority of Americans who oppose the use of taxpayer funds for abortion," Brewer said.

Kansas, North Carolina and Texas have enacted similar legislation, while Indiana, New Jersey and Wisconsin have used their budget processes to bar funding for abortion providers, according to her office...

402 palomino  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:34:13am

re: #399 Gus

Turns out that the Republican's gay problem isn't the result of the Bryan Fischers of this world. Neither is it completely the result of the theocrats. It's far more mainstream within the Republican establishment. No amount of spin from the slimy Karl Rove or Donald Rumsfeld will change that.

One of the few prominent Repubs who strongly supports gay marriage is Cheney. Of course he only supports it because of his gay daughter, and said nothing while in office, showing great courage, but there he is--way ahead of his own party on the issue.

403 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:34:28am

re: #401 Gus

I swear I saw a page for that in the last 24 hours, but I could be wrong.

404 palomino  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:35:29am

re: #400 Lidane

Seriously? Civil rights and equality for LGBT people are a matter of small import for you, and they don't matter? Not cool.

Yes, you see there's money involved. That's typically far more important on the right than civil rights.

405 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:39:53am

Family feud reveals luxuries at largest Christian TV network
Granddaughter attacks founders, who accuse her of embezzlement

NEWPORT BEACH, Calif. — For 39 years, the Trinity Broadcasting Network has urged viewers to give generously and reap the Lord’s bounty in return.

The prosperity gospel preached by Paul and Janice Crouch, who built a single station into the world’s largest Christian television network, has worked out well for them.

Mr. and Mrs. Crouch have his-and-her mansions one street apart in a gated community here, provided by the network using viewer donations and tax-free earnings. But Mrs. Crouch, 74, rarely sleeps in the $5.6 million house with tennis court and pool. She mostly lives in a large company house near Orlando, Fla., where she runs a side business, the Holy Land Experience theme park. Mr. Crouch, 78, has an adjacent home there too, but rarely visits. Its occupant is often a security guard who doubles as Mrs. Crouch’s chauffeur.

The twin sets of luxury homes only hint at the high living enjoyed by the Crouches, inspirational television personalities whose multitudes of stations and satellite signals reach millions of worshipers across the globe. Almost since they started in the 1970s, the couple have been criticized for secrecy about their use of donations, which totaled $93 million in 2010...

406 Kronocide  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:43:33am

Diageo to end funding of Heartland Institute after climate change outburst

Firm has 'no plans' to work with thinktank following campaign comparing people concerned about climate to mass murderers

407 Renaissance_Man  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:43:55am

re: #404 palomino

Yes, you see there's money involved. That's typically far more important on the right than civil rights.

In DF's 'defence', it's not really about the money. From what I see, Scott Walker's term isn't fiscally responsible either. What matters to him is that Democrats lose and Republicans win, and thus he supports Scott Walker because he wants to bust unions that generally support Democrats.

And, DF, I know you're not reading this, but you aren't being downdinged because you're right of centre. It's because the people you support do evil things, and you're totally okay with that because they have a R after their name.

408 Lidane  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:45:26am

re: #405 Gus

Family feud reveals luxuries at largest Christian TV network

Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker had nothing on Paul and Jan Crouch:

Image: PaulandJan.jpg

Yeah. You can just see their sincerity. LOL.

409 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:46:08am

re: #408 Lidane

Doesn't that much makeup poison you? Because, damn.

410 Kronocide  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:49:11am

re: #407 Renaissance_Man

And, DF, I know you're not reading this, but you aren't being downdinged because you're right of centre. It's because the people you support do evil things, and you're totally okay with that because they have a R after their name.

^This.

411 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:50:35am

re: #408 Lidane

Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker had nothing on Paul and Jan Crouch:

Image: PaulandJan.jpg

Yeah. I totally believe they're sincere believers. LOL.

Religion is on of the oldest professions. In Murica can also become quite lucrative business venture. I'm sure the sum total of this enterprise is well into the billions of dollars; and it's tax free.

412 Kronocide  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:54:21am

Quit attacking Christians Gus!

413 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:56:17am

re: #412 Kronocide

Quit attacking Christians Gus!

Of course.

414 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 9:58:42am
416 allegro  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:02:43am

re: #411 Gus

Religion is on of the oldest professions. In Murica can also become quite lucrative business venture. I'm sure the sum total of this enterprise is well into the billions of dollars; and it's tax free.

This is why I totally reject the statistics that claim that the religious give more to charity than the non-religious. Most of that giving is to their churches in tithes and other donations that I do not consider charity at all but scams run by these grifters for their own enrichment. Building a mega church is not charity. Donating to provide programs and services for one's self and/or family is paying for a hobby, not a charity. That is is all tax deductible is just... wrong.

417 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:03:53am

re: #415 Gus

The amount of makeup she is wearing must weigh as much as a baby.

418 allegro  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:05:07am

re: #415 Gus

Fixed.

Oh dear lord, that wig she's wearing looks like it came from one of those pony toys. That is very creepy.

419 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:08:18am

re: #418 allegro

Oh dear lord, that wig she's wearing looks like it came from one of those pony toys. That is very creepy.

She looks like a DQ.

420 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:09:35am

re: #418 allegro

Oh dear lord, that wig she's wearing looks like it came from one of those pony toys. That is very creepy.

She is a disciple of Ste. Pinkie Pie.

421 Kronocide  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:10:56am

re: #419 Gus

She looks like a DQ.

You can't prove she isn't.

Why are you attacking these hard working capitalists? If you raise their taxes and stifle their rugged individualism they'll stop investing in new jobs.

422 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:12:58am
423 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:14:25am

re: #365 sattv4u2

[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com...]

Islamic extremists desecrate Muslim saint's Timbuktu tomb

Okay ,,, but I'm missing the "WHY"!?!?

Extremist Sunnis don't like shrines to saints and that sort of thing. I don't know, the article doesn't say, but that's my first thought.

424 ThomasLite  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:15:25am

re: #358 Killgore Trout

Somebody recently did freak out over me linking to them because Christian was in the name. Oh, well.

Probably just missing the sarc here but to be sure: I thought CSM was a respectable, serious news source. was I wrong/misled?

425 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:16:45am

Here Gus, haven't put up any plane porn for you recently.

S.E.5a

426 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:17:17am

re: #423 SanFranciscoZionist

You nailed it. This is not the first event like this. It happens routinely in Saudi, and the Taliban was also known for it.

427 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:19:01am

re: #424 ThomasLite

Probably just missing the sarc here but to be sure: I thought CSM was a respectable, serious news source. was I wrong/misled?

Multiple Pulitzers probably don't lie.

428 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:19:01am

re: #424 ThomasLite

Probably just missing the sarc here but to be sure: I thought CSM was a respectable, serious news source. was I wrong/misled?

They are a serious news outlet. Somebody just saw the word "Christian" and thought they were some wingnut dominionist propaganda rag.

429 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:19:14am

Less than 45 minutes to the result of the French Presidential Election.

430 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:19:54am

re: #427 SanFranciscoZionist

Multiple Pulitzers probably don't lie.

I've been relying on them more and more lately. Not a lot of good reporting out there these days.

431 ThomasLite  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:20:52am

re: #427 SanFranciscoZionist

Multiple Pulitzers probably don't lie.

..ah, right. good point, thanks!

432 Kronocide  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:20:52am

re: #428 Killgore Trout

They are a serious news outlet. Somebody just saw the word "Christian" and thought they were some wingnut dominionist propaganda rag.

Where is this Christophobe?

433 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:22:52am

re: #428 Killgore Trout

They are a serious news outlet. Somebody just saw the word "Christian" and thought they were some wingnut dominionist propaganda rag.

I am, for some reason, highly amused by this, especially since, if you search on "Christian Science Monitor", at Yahoo Answers, you'll find that wingnut dominionists are prone to get pretty hysterical about how they're not real Christians of any sort.

434 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:23:13am

re: #418 allegro

Oh dear lord, that wig she's wearing looks like it came from one of those pony toys. That is very creepy.

How many My Little Ponies had to sell their hair for her to have that wig.

No, that's mean.

A good friend should sit her down, take both of her hands, and say softly, "Is something wrong with your mirrors?"

435 allegro  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:26:37am

re: #434 Mostly sane, most of the time.

A good friend should sit her down, take both of her hands, and say softly, "Is something wrong with your mirrors?"

That might be more effective than screaming "Oh, Jesus!" in shock from the vision when she enters the room. Her response to that would likely be a delighted, "Praise the Lord!"

/I know. I'm going to hell.

436 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:29:02am

re: #428 Killgore Trout

They are a serious news outlet. Somebody just saw the word "Christian" and thought they were some wingnut dominionist propaganda rag.

Who was that?

437 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:29:25am

re: #433 SanFranciscoZionist

I always thought they were related to the Christian Science guys. Am I right?

438 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:35:24am

re: #437 ProGunLiberal

I always thought they were related to the Christian Science guys. Am I right?

Yes. It was started by Mary Baker Eddy back in the day, but aside from a few clearly marked religious features, they run it like a nonsectarian newspaper.

439 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:38:35am

Sarkozy is on his way out with Hollande well ahead.

440 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:43:33am

re: #439 Gus

Expected that to happen, based on polling.

441 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:44:43am

re: #440 ProGunLiberal

I expect the result to be around 53-55% for Hollande and 45-47% for Sarkozy.

This helps Turkey at the EU.

442 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:45:04am

re: #436 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

Who was that?

I forget. It was about a week ago. I did lol privately but just didn't respond.

443 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:49:31am

Ok, problem with the washing machine has been identified. It was a bad switch, not the pump. It's been a fascinating process and really makes me wonder about the design of washing machines. Every visible screw (all of which I removed) does nothing to open the machine. the only two screws to open it are hidden in secret panels. Maybe they made it that way so you have to hire a repairman who knows the secret. It's going to take forever to put the damn thing back together.

444 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:54:46am

re: #443 Killgore Trout

Yes, that is how they make them. I went through something similar with my refrigerator.

445 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:58:34am

re: #441 ProGunLiberal

Although, I am not sure how I feel about Turkey joining the EU. Would they remain a bridge between the Christian West and Muslim West if they go to the EU? Would they be able to act as a balance to Saudi?

446 ThomasLite  Sun, May 6, 2012 10:59:21am

re: #444 PhillyPretzel

Yes, that is how they make them. I went through something similar with my refrigerator.

with a fridge there's a good reason, though. an idiot amateur mucking about with the pressurized parts of that system could easily hurt himself and/or others in a bad way. I'd much prefer people who only generally know what they're doing would stay the hell away from pressurized coolant systems. even though I thoroughly love me some mucking about :)

447 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:00:57am

re: #439 Gus

Sarkozy is on his way out with Hollande well ahead.

That's what they've been saying.

I don't think my dad is rooting for anyone this time. He had a crush on Segolene Royal, and rather took against Sarko, but since Hollande is male and boring-looking, I don't think he's as interested in the fate of France this time.

448 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:01:41am

re: #446 ThomasLite

My problem was the ice maker started to work after 10 years of no ice. I had moved a wire "bail" and once I put it back in the up position it stopped making ice.

449 Romantic Heretic  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:02:15am

re: #260 Channeling Confucius

Way back when, after I had been here a while but before Charles and the herd had been on the road to Damascus, I spent a while with negative karma. I was too liberal.

My views have not changed particularly. I'm still a conservative of the school of Edmund Burke and Alexander Hamilton. I'm still being down-dinged. C'est la vie.

Edmund Burke wasn't a conservative, and I hate that he's been hijacked by the present day 'conservatives'.

450 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:02:56am

re: #447 SanFranciscoZionist

I'll agree with boring looking part. However, I hope he is able to push back against the Academie Francaise and the Constitutional Court, and allow a modern policy on regional languages.

451 Kronocide  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:04:08am

Is Hollande the dude who invented that sauce? Cuz that sauce is, like, hella awesome.

452 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:05:10am

re: #451 Kronocide

No, he is the guy who Mr. Potato Head was modeled after. :P

453 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:05:16am

re: #448 PhillyPretzel

My problem was the ice maker started to work after 10 years of no ice. I had moved a wire "bail" and once I put it back in the up position it stopped making ice.

I had never had a fridge with an ice maker until about seven years ago, when we moved to the burbs. The landlord had put the refrigerator in a really awkward spot, blocking off access to a lot of storage space, and I tried to move it myself, but there was a very thin copper tube attaching it to the wall. I called the landlord for help in moving the fridge, and then spent twenty-four hours wondering about the tube, which I vaguely thought might be for ducting out moisture or something.

Then it dawned on me that the magical ice maker was getting the water for the ice cubes from somewhere, and felt like an idiot.

Me, and popular mechanics!

(We moved the fridge anyway. I decided I would rather have the cabinets and drawers and make my own ice.)

454 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:06:41am

re: #453 SanFranciscoZionist

I understand. I prefer to make my own ice too.

456 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:09:52am

Speaking of ice, the Feline Overlord is demanding ice cubes to be added to his drinking water today. Days must be getting long enough he thinks it's summer.

457 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:10:30am

re: #447 SanFranciscoZionist

That's what they've been saying.

I don't think my dad is rooting for anyone this time. He had a crush on Segolene Royal, and rather took against Sarko, but since Hollande is male and boring-looking, I don't think he's as interested in the fate of France this time.

I'm just glad it's not Le Penn.

458 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:11:52am

re: #455 Gus

François Hollande élu président de la République

Well, that looks pretty solid.

459 ThomasLite  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:12:25am

re: #448 PhillyPretzel

ah, right. that's not something anyone's likely to hurt himself with. I think. (what, icemakers on fridges? must be some US thing. honestly, I've seen everything up to integrated beer taps but never an ice maker).

460 dragonath  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:13:25am

re: #445 ProGunLiberal

Turkey was interesting when I visited there. Some of the cities are extremely secular, some aren't. Vendors were selling X-rated mags out on the street in Eskisehir, but only go 30-40 miles and you'll hit some heavy duty religious sites.

461 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:13:42am

re: #439 Gus

Sarkozy is on his way out with Hollande well ahead.

Yeah! Me does happy dance!

462 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:13:47am

re: #457 Killgore Trout

She got less than 20% in the First Round. Front Nationale is just the French Equivalent of the Tea Party.

Yes, my opinion of the Tea Party is that low.

463 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:13:53am

re: #454 PhillyPretzel

I understand. I prefer to make my own ice too.

Come on, join the twenty-first century, everyone simply must have a fridge with Ice and filtered water accessible from a door dispenser. (actually it is pretty handy, besides the cat really likes his water cold with crushed ice in it that he can paw at when it "crackles").

/

464 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:14:22am

re: #459 ThomasLite

ah, right. that's not something anyone's likely to hurt himself with. I think. (what, icemakers on fridges? must be some US thing. honestly, I've seen everything up to integrated beer taps but never an ice maker).

It's a common feature in the States. Most mid-to-high-range models have ice makers built in. Goes with our obsession with cold drinks.

Beer taps, now THAT I've never seen.

465 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:14:59am

re: #460 Be Zorch, Daddio

Turkey was interesting when I visited there. Some of the cities are extremely secular, some aren't. Vendors were selling X-rated mags out on the street in Eskisehir, but only go 30-40 miles and you'll hit some heavy duty religious sites.

I'm very liberal, but I think those should be sold in a place a children cannot get to them. Maybe it's just me being prudish.

466 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:15:00am

re: #459 ThomasLite

what, icemakers on fridges? must be some US thing.

It's actually one of the theories on why Americans are so fat. Always consuming drinks with lots of ice lowers the core body temp causing the body to store fat.

468 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:15:22am

re: #463 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

I have a filter on my faucet and I also use my ice cube trays to freeze other items like chicken broth.

469 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:15:51am

Wingnut panic ensues. They'll go back to hating France now. Maybe they never stopped hating France. Who knows.

"Freedum Fries!!!!!"

470 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:16:26am

re: #460 Be Zorch, Daddio

Turkey was interesting when I visited there. Some of the cities are extremely secular, some aren't. Vendors were selling X-rated mags out on the street in Eskisehir, but only go 30-40 miles and you'll hit some heavy duty religious sites.

I read an article on Turkey some years ago. The author explained that he'd found a cartoon from a 1920s magazine, which shows two girls, one dressed as a flapper, and the other in yashmak and a long coat, meeting on the street. The veiled girl says "Look how you're dressed! Aren't you ashamed to be seen?" The flapper says, "I could say the same to you!"

"That was ninety years ago," the author commented, "and nothing has changed."

(Except, I assume that the modern girl is now wearing tight jeans and a tank top.)

471 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:16:59am

re: #449 Romantic Heretic

Edmund Burke wasn't a conservative, and I hate that he's been hijacked by the present day 'conservatives'.

To me, that's almost as humorous as the worship of Adam Smith by those who have no clue what he actually wrote.

I do wish that many of those who think they're libertarian or conservative would actually read some of these dead white guys that they worship. Some Locke in there might help too...

472 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:17:21am

re: #469 Gus

lol Fries are from Belgium.

473 ThomasLite  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:17:45am

re: #464 SanFranciscoZionist

oh, it's quite lovely. some breweries (ginormous factories actually, but oh well) here sell small 'barrels' of beer, complete with overpriced home appliances that only fit their brand barrels. Now one or two appliance brands had a good idea and started fitting versions of those appliances (only with swappable connectors for different brands, we can get very picky when it comes to beer here) into the doors of their fridges. little bastards to clean, though. still, they sold a lot of those.

474 freetoken  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:18:07am

re: #467 Gus

Vive la France!

475 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:18:09am

re: #470 SanFranciscoZionist

That sounds like us a little bit, doesn't it?

476 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:18:42am

re: #474 freetoken

Vive la France!

Vive le socialisme!

477 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:19:59am

re: #466 Killgore Trout

It's actually one of the theories on why Americans are so fat. Always consuming drinks with lots of ice lowers the core body temp causing the body to store fat.

So what's Greece and Slovakia's excuse?

(Just picking on nations at the top of the obesity chart that aren't known for guzzling ice-filled drinks.)

478 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:20:22am

re: #469 Gus

Wingnut panic ensues. They'll go back to hating France now. Maybe they never stopped hating France. Who knows.

"Freedum Fries!!!"

I think they've generally always hated France. What would have made them stop?

479 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:20:53am

re: #476 Gus

He belongs to the most moderate wing of the party, which is committed to pro-growth policies, and global democracy.

I am to his left. In France, I would be a Royalist (Follower of Segolene Royal). The middle of the Party, the Social Democrats.

480 Gus  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:21:23am

re: #478 SanFranciscoZionist

I think they've generally always hated France. What would have made them stop?

Most normal people thought that would have changed with Sarkozy but it did not.

481 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:21:56am

French candidate Hollande's projected win could change eurozone's course

Mr. Hollande seems certain to set in motion a change to the strict German-led austerity measures that have so far allowed Berlin to dictate steep spending cuts in national budgets, even as the European debt crisis spilled over into a political crisis, with five governments falling and streets filling with protesters.

.... Hollande has campaigned on plans to incorporate elements of growth into the austerity mandate, an idea bolstered by support from Mario Draghi, head of the European Central Bank, who has suggested a "growth compact" for Europe. Across Europe, even some adherents to austerity are beginning to question it as a solution to the economic crisis. So when Hollande promises a “new direction for Europe,” as he did in his only debate with Sarkozy on May 2, the promise may be more than rhetorical, analysts say.

482 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:22:04am

re: #475 ProGunLiberal

That sounds like us a little bit, doesn't it?

Well, I don't think American political and religious differences can be boiled down to clothing as easily, but I guess national arguments do tend to go on and on...

483 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:23:10am

re: #477 SanFranciscoZionist

So what's Greece and Slovakia's excuse?

(Just picking on nations at the top of the obesity chart that aren't known for guzzling ice-filled drinks.)

I think much of it is the influx of "american" diet mostly of processed, frozen and microwavable food.

484 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:23:21am

re: #482 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, the societal divide I mean. Aside from Utah and Mormons, there aren't huge differences in dress regionally.

re: #481 Killgore Trout

Summary: Austerity Failed.

485 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:26:13am

re: #483 Killgore Trout

I think much of it is the influx of "american" diet mostly of processed, frozen and microwavable food.

Possibly, but then you get into questions like: why is obesity at the U.S. at 30%, Slovakia at 22.4%, and Canada all the way down at 14.3%, even though I'm fairly sure that Canada has access to all the processed, frozen, and microwavable crap they want, and a food culture probably more similar to that of the U.S. than Slovakia?

486 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:26:32am

re: #484 ProGunLiberal

Well, the societal divide I mean. Aside from Utah and Mormons, there aren't huge differences in dress regionally.

re: #481 Killgore Trout

Summary: Austerity Failed.

Um, seriously? Mormons dress radically different from the rest of the nation? We shop in regular department stores and just pick the shirts with sleeves.

487 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:27:47am

re: #468 PhillyPretzel

I have a filter on my faucet and I also use my ice cube trays to freeze other items like chicken broth.

I freeze herbs. Parsley, basil, etc. that don't dry freeze well. Chop 'em up, submerge them, and make herb cubes. Then shift to freezer bags so they don't sublimate.

488 Romantic Heretic  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:28:28am

re: #425 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Here Gus, haven't put up any plane porn for you recently.

S.E.5a

Sweet aircraft. Much better than the Camel in my opinion. Not as good as the Fokker Dv7 though.

489 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:28:34am

re: #464 SanFranciscoZionist

It's a common feature in the States. Most mid-to-high-range models have ice makers built in. Goes with our obsession with cold drinks.

Beer taps, now THAT I've never seen.

I have made a lot of money over the years by converting mini fridges to beer keg holders with a top mounted tap and overflow catch pan and collection pail (optional waste line connection fittings available for only a "bit" more).

You just cannot have a proper and complete "man cave" without your own personal beer tap. ;)

490 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:29:16am

re: #487 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

When I have herbs I do that too. One of the many good tips from America's Test Kitchen.

491 freetoken  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:29:23am

Greek elections: 3 parties vie for top position

[...]

According to the poll, commissioned by four major television stations and carried out by three polling agencies, New Democracy was projected to win between 17 percent and 20 percent of the vote, PASOK between 14 percent and 17 percent, and the left-wing Radical Left Coalition, or Syriza, between 15.5 percent and 18.5 percent.

The extreme right-wing Golden Dawn was predicted to win between 6 and 8 percent, well above the 3 percent needed to enter parliament.

Official results were expected later Sunday night.

[...]

492 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:31:19am

re: #485 SanFranciscoZionist

Possibly, but then you get into questions like: why is obesity at the U.S. at 30%, Slovakia at 22.4%, and Canada all the way down at 14.3%, even though I'm fairly sure that Canada has access to all the processed, frozen, and microwavable crap they want, and a food culture probably more similar to that of the U.S. than Slovakia?

Hungry Grizzly Bears, the need for the Keystone Pipeline and the Parti Quebecois.

493 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:32:02am

re: #486 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Um, seriously? Mormons dress radically different from the rest of the nation? We shop in regular department stores and just pick the shirts with sleeves.

I may have told you this story, but I heard a tale from a lady who also plays in the Society for Creative Anachronism. She and a friend, on the way to an event, stopped at a grocery store, and started shopping for camping essentials, wearing their fifteenth-century clothing.

A little boy, watching them whispers, "Mommy, why are they dressed like that?"

His mother whispers back. "Don't point. They're dressed like that because they're Mormons."

She and her friend got out into the parking lot before they began to shriek with laughter. As it happens, they are both Mormons, but this was not why they were wearing fifteenth-century costumes to the grocery store.

(We have a lot of Mormons in the SCA, for various reasons. The 'period styles that will conceal garments, ones that won't, and what creative thing I'm doing about it' conversation crops up on many a costuming list.)

494 freetoken  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:32:29am

The neo-Nazi Golden Dawn might enter the Greek Parliament.

Brave new world, this.

495 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:33:12am

re: #493 SanFranciscoZionist

I may have told you this story, but I heard a tale from a lady who also plays in the Society for Creative Anachronism. She and a friend, on the way to an event, stopped at a grocery store, and started shopping for camping essentials, wearing their fifteenth-century clothing.

A little boy, watching them whispers, "Mommy, why are they dressed like that?"

His mother whispers back. "Don't point. They're dressed like that because they're Mormons."

She and her friend got out into the parking lot before they began to shriek with laughter. As it happens, they are both Mormons, but this was not why they were wearing fifteenth-century costumes to the grocery store.

(We have a lot of Mormons in the SCA, for various reasons. The 'period styles that will conceal garments, ones that won't, and what creative thing I'm doing about it' conversation crops up on many a costuming list.)

I imagine.

I certainly am glad that being LDS does not require me to wear headdresses, trains, hoop skirts or corsets. Especially the corset.

496 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:33:41am

re: #488 Romantic Heretic

Sweet aircraft. Much better than the Camel in my opinion. Not as good as the Fokker Dv7 though.

I like them. In one of the WW1 aircraft games I have I prefer them over Camels. In the multi-plane melee games we play sometimes I will use a SE5a, a Sopwith Snipe, or a Fokker D.7. if I get my choice. They all have their advantages and weaknesses.

497 Renaissance_Man  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:35:11am

re: #466 Killgore Trout

It's actually one of the theories on why Americans are so fat. Always consuming drinks with lots of ice lowers the core body temp causing the body to store fat.

It's a theory with no basis in fact. An iced drink isn't going to lower your core body temp, otherwise you'd have people dying of hypothermia on sunny days. If anything, iced drinks will burn calories through sheer thermodynamics.

Furthermore, body temperature has a minimal effect on fat storage if there's any effect at all. It is insulin that causes fat storage, no more, no less.

498 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:39:17am

re: #495 Mostly sane, most of the time.

I imagine.

I certainly am glad that being LDS does not require me to wear headdresses, trains, hoop skirts or corsets. Especially the corset.

SCA-period corsets are not so bad. They didn't go in for the ridiculously tiny waist of some later periods, and I find that they support your back better than a bra. But the hennin would be a bit much. Especially if you worked in a cube farm in Salt Lake City. I suddenly have a vision of a row of 'princess hats' popping up over the top of the dividers.

499 Romantic Heretic  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:39:28am

re: #485 SanFranciscoZionist

Possibly, but then you get into questions like: why is obesity at the U.S. at 30%, Slovakia at 22.4%, and Canada all the way down at 14.3%, even though I'm fairly sure that Canada has access to all the processed, frozen, and microwavable crap they want, and a food culture probably more similar to that of the U.S. than Slovakia?

As a Canadian, I suspect the difference is in amounts.

When I visit my wife in the States I'm always amazed, and a little appalled, at how much food gets delivered to our table when we eat out. I can never finish it despite my healthy appetite. But the people at the surrounding tables scarf it all down and have dessert as well.

Even stuff meant to be used at home is designed to be used in massive amounts. The first time I made scrambled eggs there I ruined them because the Worcestershire sauce bottle was designed to pour rather than shake.

My hypothesis.

500 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:39:33am

re: #494 freetoken

I somehow think Alouette will be less worked up about the greater neo-nazi result herre than in Sweden some years ago.

The Swedish Democrats got 5.7% of the vote, which gave Sweden a collective anurism.

It looks like Golden Dawn got better than that. Also, unlike Sweden, Greece is guilty of Genocide (Greek Troops in Bosnia, particularly Srebrenica). And the Golden Dawn has members from that participated in the slaughter.

Screw Greece so much.

501 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:43:26am

re: #498 SanFranciscoZionist

SCA-period corsets are not so bad. They didn't go in for the ridiculously tiny waist of some later periods, and I find that they support your back better than a bra. But the hennin would be a bit much. Especially if you worked in a cube farm in Salt Lake City. I suddenly have a vision of a row of 'princess hats' popping up over the top of the dividers.

With sheer pink veils cascading from them.

502 Romantic Heretic  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:44:33am

re: #496 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I like them. In one of the WW1 aircraft games I have I prefer them over Camels. In the multi-plane melee games we play sometimes I will use a SE5a, a Sopwith Snipe, or a Fokker D.7. if I get my choice. They all have their advantages and weaknesses.

Snipe's a pretty good aircraft. Billy Barker took on the entire Richtofen Geschwader in one and lived. Barely.

When I play any aircraft game I prefer 'boom and zoom' fighters. Dogfighting is a messy business that isn't horribly survivable.

503 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:45:52am

re: #502 Romantic Heretic

I've played Ace Combat.

Favorite planes would have to the the Euro Fighters.

504 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, May 6, 2012 11:50:12am

re: #502 Romantic Heretic

Snipe's a pretty good aircraft. Billy Barker took on the entire Richtofen Geschwader in one and lived. Barely.

When I play any aircraft game I prefer 'boom and zoom' fighters. Dogfighting is a messy business that isn't horribly survivable.

That's one of the major advantages of the S.E.5a in Wings of War. Can pretty much outrun anything in the game. (Roughly four speed gradients, and only the SE5a and the SPAD XIII use the top one.) Being able to pretty much disengage at will is nice. But you're a bit less maneuverable than the others. And the Fokker D.7. does some low speed stuff that nothing else can do. Handle with care.


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