FunnyOrDie: Republicans, Get in My Vagina!
The one thing women really want
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Kate Beckinsale, Judy Greer and Andrea Savage spread the Republican message.
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Targetpractice Tue, May 8, 2012 7:25:40pm |
Government small enough to fit in your uterus.
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erik_t Tue, May 8, 2012 7:29:21pm |
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 8, 2012 7:39:54pm |
There are likely many Republicans who'd like to get at least part of themselves into Kate Beckinsale's vagina.
/Sorry, I'm a guy.
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erik_t Tue, May 8, 2012 7:42:38pm |
re: #2 erik_t
Appropriately, I am being fed a Sheriff Joe advertisement.
I refreshed and got another one!
Thank you, Joe Arpaio, for saving me from the immigrant and cartel menace with your border wall, and also for investigating the veracity of Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate with your posse and/or commission.
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 7:43:04pm |
re: #5 Dark_Falcon
There are likely many men who'd like to get at least part of themselves into Kate Beckinsale's vagina.
/Sorry, I'm a guy.
She's hot and fixed with bipartisan spirit.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 7:43:35pm |
re: #5 Dark_Falcon
There are likely many Republicans who'd like to get at least part of themselves into Kate Beckinsale's vagina.
/Sorry, I'm a guy.
I imagine there are women who feel the same way.
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 7:44:41pm |
re: #9 ggt
I imagine there are women who feel the same way.
And then the inevitable "Can you blame them gets asked?" Seriously, she's a very attractive woman. I've felt that way for a while.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 8, 2012 7:47:14pm |
re: #9 ggt
I imagine there are women who feel the same way.
Yes, but I that would have made the post longer (heh) and less pithy.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 7:47:43pm |
re: #10 HappyWarrior
And then the inevitable "Can you blame them gets asked?" Seriously, she's a very attractive woman. I've felt that way for a while.
I guess I am just very frustrated right now with the knee-jerk response from many men to a subject I find very serious.
We are talking about my Human Rights.
But that's ok, I should just get used to it --it's be 47 years, why in the world should I expect things to change.
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 7:49:37pm |
re: #12 ggt
I guess I am just very frustrated right now with the knee-jerk response from many men to a subject I find very serious.
We are talking about my Human Rights.
But that's ok, I should just get used to it --it's be 47 years, why in the world should I expect things to change.
Oh I agree totally with you. I am just saying, I wouldn't blame any woman who would want to make out with Kate Beckinsale. This is a human rights issue as you say. It's not my place as a male to tell you what you can and can't do with yours.
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Digital Display Tue, May 8, 2012 7:50:08pm |
Hi Lizards! Almost time for the Lakers Game..
Hope you are well..
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jaunte Tue, May 8, 2012 7:50:27pm |
RNC attacks President Obama on Employment... from Overseas Call Center
“As tens of thousands across America protest corporate greed on the occasion of Verizon’s shareholders meeting, we get another reminder of how the company is shipping jobs overseas,” said CWA Chief of Staff Ron Collins, who began his career in a Maryland-based Verizon call center. “It’s hard to imagine anything more hypocritical than the RNC making calls about U.S. unemployment from a Verizon foreign call center.”
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 7:51:57pm |
re: #13 HappyWarrior
Oh I agree totally with you. I am just saying, I wouldn't blame any woman who would want to make out with Kate Beckinsale. This is a human rights issue as you say. It's not my place as a male to tell you what you can and can't do with yours.
The point is that instead of taking the subject seriously, or even thinking about it --the response is to make the subject all about them and their sexual fantasies. The women is objectified and then forgotten.
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Daniel Ballard Tue, May 8, 2012 7:52:02pm |
re: #14 HoosierHoops
We are just fine around here. Enjoy the game!
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Interesting Times Tue, May 8, 2012 7:52:46pm |
Rightwing misogynist piece of filth spews obscene insults at Sandra Fluke, whose classy, dignified response makes said rightwinger's piece-of-filthness all the more obvious:
.@geotie2323 When no one thinks saying something like that to a woman is acceptable. The sooner u change, the sooner I can stop fighting.— Sandra Fluke (@SandraFluke) May 9, 2012
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, May 8, 2012 7:53:33pm |
re: #14 HoosierHoops
Hi Lizards! Almost time for the Lakers Game..
Hope you are well..
Al Horford got more press time than I've ever seen. Love him!!
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 7:53:41pm |
re: #16 ggt
The point is that instead of taking the subject seriously, or even thinking about it --the response is to make the subject all about them and their sexual fantasies. The women is objectified and then forgotten.
Gotcha. Believe me, this is an issue I understand why people care about it. I helped out a couple of classmates when they were protesting McDonnell's decision to restrict abortion access here in Virginia.
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 7:54:56pm |
re: #18 Interesting Times
Rightwing misogynist piece of filth spews obscene insults at Sandra Fluke, whose classy, dignified response makes said rightwinger's piece-of-filthness all the more obvious:
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Nice guy. The shallow hatred this poor woman has been subjected to for advocating contraception coverage is sick. Thanks Rush for setting the tone you stupid jerk.
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dragonath Tue, May 8, 2012 7:56:25pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 7:58:27pm |
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Majacita Tue, May 8, 2012 7:58:52pm |
re: #18 Interesting Times
I think I love Sandra Fluke. She really is turning into a great role model. Perfect response.
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Decatur Deb Tue, May 8, 2012 7:59:05pm |
re: #22 Be Zorch, Daddio
Michelle Bachmann claims Swiss citizenship
-_-
Swiss begin production of "Bachmann clocks".
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 7:59:15pm |
re: #22 Be Zorch, Daddio
Michelle Bachmann claims Swiss citizenship
-_-
My poor distant Swiss relations.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 8, 2012 8:01:32pm |
re: #18 Interesting Times
Rightwing misogynist piece of filth spews obscene insults at Sandra Fluke, whose classy, dignified response makes said rightwinger's piece-of-filthness all the more obvious:
[Embedded content]
@geotie2323 @SandraFluk Rotten extraneous insults just make you look like an asshole. Be decent, be a real man!
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) May 9, 2012
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jaunte Tue, May 8, 2012 8:01:44pm |
Katha Pollitt:
...You know the slogan “Women’s rights are human rights”? Well, women’s rights are economic rights, too. Sometimes it’s obvious: when Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker signs a bill reducing access to the courts for women claiming wage discrimination, that’s clearly an attack on women’s paychecks. When Mitt Romney can’t say whether or not he would have supported the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act—which, let’s not forget, simply restored women’s right to sue for pay discrimination to where it was before the Supreme Court limited it—and then names four judges who voted against Lilly Ledbetter as models for his future appointments, he is saying businesses should have broad leeway to pay women less for doing the same work as men.
But when it comes to reproductive issues, apparently, the connection needs to be spelled out. So here it is: limiting women’s access to birth control and abortion is not “culture war” theater, and it is not just a “social issue” either. It’s an economic issue.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 8, 2012 8:03:25pm |
re: #27 Dark_Falcon
I don't agree with Sandra Fluke, but I'll be hanged if I just sit back and let an asshole like that insult a woman in that fashion.
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Majacita Tue, May 8, 2012 8:04:14pm |
re: #23 ggt
This means she can't run for president again. She's a dual citizen and according to the logic, her loyalties are now divided. I'm not completely versed in birther but isn't that the way it works? I wish other countries would offer to take some of the others. Isn't there anyone who would want Santorum?
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 8:05:08pm |
re: #30 Majacita
This means she can't run for president again. She's a dual citizen and according to the logic, her loyalties are now divided. I'm not completely versed in birther but isn't that the way it works? I wish other countries would offer to take some of the others. Isn't there anyone who would want Santorum?
Greenland?
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erik_t Tue, May 8, 2012 8:06:19pm |
re: #30 Majacita
This means she can't run for president again. She's a dual citizen and according to the logic, her loyalties are now divided. I'm not completely versed in birther but isn't that the way it works? I wish other countries would offer to take some of the others. Isn't there anyone who would want Santorum?
coughwhite
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 8:06:26pm |
re: #28 jaunte
Katha Pollitt:
Yep, per my t-shirt rant on the previous thread.
Economics 101: Number and Spacing of Pregnancies -for Conservative Voters
The demographic that really needs to be targeted are the seniors. They are very concerned with their personal economics as well.
I've tried various appeals to the heart of Grandma --like --We Still Need You and It's Not Over, Don't Give Up. But I can't seem to get it right.
If I get a good one, I'm considering posting classified ads in local news papers in the swing states. Small, relatively inexpensive--It's not the t-shirt sales I want but to plant the seed. Change a vote or two. It could make a difference.
AS I said before--What is written on a t-shirt and shared thru the internet seems to be the billboard of the future.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 8:07:10pm |
re: #29 Dark_Falcon
I don't agree with Sandra Fluke, but I'll be hanged if I just sit back and let an asshole like that insult a woman in that fashion.
I'm dissappointed that anyone would speak that way at all.
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 8:09:24pm |
re: #34 ggt
I'm dissappointed that anyone would speak that way at all.
He wouldn't in real life. Just another fake internet tough guy who thinks he's tough behind his keyboard. But yeah, it's disappointing but I can't say I am too surprised after reading some of the stuff I saw posted about Sandra Fluke on the internet after Limbaugh called her a slut.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 8:11:30pm |
re: #36 HappyWarrior
He wouldn't in real life. Just another fake internet tough guy who thinks he's tough behind his keyboard. But yeah, it's disappointing but I can't say I am too surprised after reading some of the stuff I saw posted about Sandra Fluke on the internet after Limbaugh called her a slut.
Probably a Christian too!
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 8:11:51pm |
OT but I just finished reading Jane Leavy's Sandy Koufax biography. Leavy's a good sports biographer. Unconventional since her biographies aren't linear but she integrates herself into her subject's life and the lives of regular people. The Mantle one was good too.
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Majacita Tue, May 8, 2012 8:12:46pm |
re: #36 HappyWarrior
I remember an old saying, do you kiss your mother with that mouth? I guess it should be updated.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 8:12:57pm |
I'm almost finished with the audio version of the Master and the Margarita, per Lizard recommendation.
It's good.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 8:16:40pm |
re: #41 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012
I'll help
AWESOME!
I need verbiage. Clear, concise, not snarky, with the intent to catch a persons attention and hit a nerve--that might make them think.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 8, 2012 8:17:16pm |
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Mich-again Tue, May 8, 2012 8:17:25pm |
re: #27 Dark_Falcon
I love how that idiot brags about being a father on his Twitter page. Nice example on display there pops.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 8, 2012 8:20:23pm |
re: #44 Mich-again
I love how that idiot brags about being a father on his Twitter page. Nice example on display there pops.
I wonder if he'd call his daughter* a slut if he found her on birth control?
*: If he has a daughter.
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Mich-again Tue, May 8, 2012 8:23:07pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 8:23:50pm |
re: #46 Mich-again
Oh no doubt about it. The loudest and the proudest kind..
ah, He Doth Protest Too Much?
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ProGunLiberal Tue, May 8, 2012 8:24:44pm |
re: #26 HappyWarrior
It fits her though. This is a nation that aided the Nazis in WWII, and, unlike Sweden who passed on intel, and begrudgingly took in refugees, and trained some Norwegians and Danish Policemen for being able to take back over when the Nazis fell. I don't agree with what Sweden did in whole, but I can see why they did it.
A small, underarmed nation Surrounded by two Totalitarian dickweeds. I can see why they acted that way. But at least they did something for the right side. Unlike Switzerland.
And one of the Swedish people who did help spirit away people from Concentration Camps then ended up assassinated by Lehi three years later. By Lehi. And that assassination is why Sweden is so frosty with Israel. Scandinavia hold grudges, evidently.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, May 8, 2012 8:24:48pm |
re: #45 Dark_Falcon
I wonder if he'd call his daughter* a slut if he found her on birth control?
*: If he has a daughter.
Dude, this father called Ms Fluke a C. He's a hateful hypocrite.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 8, 2012 8:27:12pm |
re: #49 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012
Dude, this father called Ms Fluke a C. He's a hateful hypocrite.
True that.
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 8:28:29pm |
re: #48 ProGunLiberal
It fits her though. This is a nation that aided the Nazis in WWII, and, unlike Sweden who passed on intel, and begrudgingly took in refugees, and trained some Norwegians and Danish Policemen for being able to take back over when the Nazis fell. I don't agree with what Sweden did in whole, but I can see why they did it.
A small, underarmed nation Surrounded by two Totalitarian dickweeds. I can see why they acted that way. But at least they did something for the right side. Unlike Switzerland.
And one of the Swedish people who did help spirit away people from Concentration Camps then ended up assassinated by Lehi three years later. By Lehi. And that assassination is why Sweden is so frosty with Israel. Scandinavia hold grudges, evidently.
Well to be fair, the Swiss also helped the Allies in some ways too. It was the destination of many an escaped Allied POW. Not that I'm defending the bad stuff but Switzerland wasn't exactly in the easiest of spots too. Besides I was being silly. And when it comes to World War II, we should admire individuals' actions more than nations.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 8, 2012 8:30:54pm |
re: #51 HappyWarrior
Well to be fair, the Swiss also helped the Allies in some ways too. It was the destination of many an escaped Allied POW. Not that I'm defending the bad stuff but Switzerland wasn't exactly in the easiest of spots too. Besides I was being silly.
Switzerland had to avoid antagonizing the Axis powers, as after the collapse of France in 1940 the Swiss were completely surrounded by Axis territory. And the still needed imports, and that meant trading with the Nazis.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, May 8, 2012 8:31:52pm |
re: #51 HappyWarrior
True, but Switzerland was a bit more sympathetic acting to the Nazis, through out the entire war. Sweden did begin to start refusing to do various actions for the Nazis and other things once it became apparent Germany would fall.
Though, the current situation politically may color my vision. Sweden resists the bug that has swept up most of Europe, while Switzerland embraces it.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, May 8, 2012 8:32:30pm |
re: #52 Dark_Falcon
Relatively the same with Sweden. After the fall of Norway, it became real difficult to trade with the allies.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 8, 2012 8:32:56pm |
Illustration #131 as to why the Pakistani ISI is our enemy:
May 8, 2012: Pakistan's ISI (their CIA/military intelligence organization) is accused of recently arranging the murder of Afghan Taliban who were willing to negotiate a peace deal with the Afghan government. This gruesome act became apparent over the last week as information came from surviving members of the "peace faction" and kin of the murdered men trickled into public view. It didn't take analysts long to conclude that about 25 Taliban (several leaders and their immediate aides) were killed last month by other Taliban, who opposed any negotiations. The killers were aided by the ISI, which created the Taliban two decades ago and have sought to control this Islamic radical group ever since. The ISI has been able to maintain considerable influence over the Afghan Taliban, because the leadership of that group was provided with sanctuary across the border from Kandahar (the home of the original Taliban) and protection from American UAV missile attacks.
In contrast, the ISI has lost control of the Pakistani branch of the Taliban, which is constantly under attack by American UAVs, although it still has a sanctuary (from Pakistani attacks) in North Waziristan.
The ISI influence on the Afghan Taliban is no secret and is yet another reason why most Afghans hate the Taliban. Afghans in general see Pakistan as a meddlesome and hostile neighbor. Pakistan, in turn, sees Afghanistan as a client state, one that should follow the lead of its more powerful neighbor. This attitude is not very popular in Afghanistan, and even many of Afghan Taliban reluctantly accepts aid from the ISI.
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erik_t Tue, May 8, 2012 8:32:59pm |
re: #53 ProGunLiberal
Though, the current situation politically may color my vision. Sweden resists the bug that has swept up most of Europe, while Switzerland embraces it.
I would expect nothing less. Could you find a wider brush?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 8:33:01pm |
WHAT THE FUCK.
I click the link on the last post on the last thread and it goes to MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK PAGE?
I logged-off and it is no longer visable.
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 8:33:23pm |
re: #52 Dark_Falcon
Switzerland had to avoid antagonizing the Axis powers, as after the collapse of France in 1940 the Swiss were completely surrounded by Axis territory. And the still needed imports, and that meant trading with the Nazis.
Right not just Germany but Italy too. As I said though, I admire the actions of individuals not nations.
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dragonath Tue, May 8, 2012 8:34:27pm |
re: #53 ProGunLiberal
I think you'e being too tough on the Swiss. They have their problems with the populist right, but we're born into this screwy world, and, really, whose history is it anyway.
They have their crazy 27%, too. Not much different than us.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 8, 2012 8:34:46pm |
re: #53 ProGunLiberal
True, but Switzerland was a bit more sympathetic acting to the Nazis, through out the entire war. Sweden did begin to start refusing to do various actions for the Nazis and other things once it became apparent Germany would fall.
Though, the current situation politically may color my vision. Sweden resists the bug that has swept up most of Europe, while Switzerland embraces it.
The thing was that the Swiss could not risk a break with Germany until late 1944. Even after Stalingrad, the Swiss were still surrounded by Axis territory for another 21 months.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, May 8, 2012 8:35:17pm |
re: #59 Be Zorch, Daddio
A little more than 27%. Remember the Minaret thing? I sure do.
Also, the nation's non-cooperation in regards to being a Tax Shelter.
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jaunte Tue, May 8, 2012 8:35:34pm |
Houston imam's 'fringe' comments draw criticism
Over the past several months, frequenters of the Main Center mosque at the Islamic Society of Greater Houston, the nation's largest Islamic community organization, have reported strange, slightly paranoid and often incoherent sermons from their head imam.
In April, for instance, leading Friday prayers in front of hundreds of Muslims, Omar Inshanally warned against a "global population reduction plan" and the dumping of fluoride, Prozac and lithium in the water "to control populations," according to Aziz Gilani, a 31-year-old venture capitalist in attendance.
Sounds like he's been listening to Alex Jones.
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 8:35:56pm |
OT but I'm finally listening to Charles' interview. Good stuff.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, May 8, 2012 8:36:19pm |
re: #60 Dark_Falcon
True. I think by 1943 Sweden was already beginning to play Hardball, and when the Lapland War started, they were able to become way more independent.
And screw the Pakistani Government with Barbed Wire Dildo.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 8:36:52pm |
re: #65 Be Zorch, Daddio
Safari? I had problems earlier!
How could a link go to my private facebook page? From someone who doesn't have access to it?
I'm not using Safari.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 8, 2012 8:38:35pm |
re: #64 ProGunLiberal
True. I think by 1943 Sweden was already beginning to play Hardball, and when the Lapland War started, they were able to become way more independent.
And screw the Pakistani Government with Barbed Wire Dildo.
They still sold Germany iron ore, though they could hardly do otherwise. It was a major export, one Sweden had to export in order to have enough national income to maintain its own defenses, small though those were.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, May 8, 2012 8:39:09pm |
re: #62 jaunte
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palomino Tue, May 8, 2012 8:41:57pm |
re: #12 ggt
I guess I am just very frustrated right now with the knee-jerk response from many men to a subject I find very serious.
We are talking about my Human Rights.
But that's ok, I should just get used to it --it's be 47 years, why in the world should I expect things to change.
Because they will. Over 60% of college graduates are now female. In most professional schools (particularly law and business, where most politicians come from) women are now the majority. Furthermore, women under 30 make more than men...for the first time in our history. Thus women will not just vote, but also set the dialogue and agenda more and more with each passing day. The reactionaries may win this battle, but they can't win the war.
All FIVE Republican women Senators voted for renewing the Violence Against Women Act, while 75% of their fellow male Republicans voted against. Thing is the GOP can't remain 90% male in Congress much longer; nor will the Dems even remain at their current 65% male figure.
Sure, there are some fire breathing women out there who have gladly joined the GOP's war on women. But polls have consistently showed for decades that women overall are much more sympathetic to women's issues. So ultimately more women in power = policy changes.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, May 8, 2012 8:42:02pm |
re: #68 Dark_Falcon
The only reason Sweden has a significant military today is WWII. They were paranoid about being attacked by Nazi Germany, and had to find an adaption to it. Which was creating the ability for very flexible deployment, and quick turnaround time for Sorties. ALong with make fantastic equipment.
Such as Fighter Jets capable of getting a lock-on to an SR-71.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 8:43:23pm |
re: #70 palomino
Because they will. Over 60% of college graduates are now female. In most professional schools (particularly law and business, where most politicians come from) women are now the majority. Furthermore, women under 30 make more than men...for the first time in our history. Thus women will not just vote, but also set the dialogue and agenda more and more with each passing day. The reactionaries may win this battle, but they can't win the war.
All FIVE Republican women Senators voted for renewing the Violence Against Women Act, while 75% of their fellow male Republicans voted against. Thing is the GOP can't remain 90% male in Congress much longer; nor will the Dems even remain at their current 65% male figure.
Sure, there are some fire breathing women out there who have gladly joined the GOP's war on women. But polls have consistently showed for decades that women overall are much more sympathetic to women's issues. So ultimately more women in power = policy changes.
Thank You
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 8:45:09pm |
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]
I didn't even know Tymoshenko was in jail.
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palomino Tue, May 8, 2012 8:45:50pm |
re: #29 Dark_Falcon
I don't agree with Sandra Fluke, but I'll be hanged if I just sit back and let an asshole like that insult a woman in that fashion.
What did Sandra Fluke ever do to earn your disagreement?
She doesn't want your taxpayer money paying for her contraception; she wants her employer/school to do it, like most employers and schools.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 8, 2012 8:49:52pm |
re: #74 palomino
What did Sandra Fluke ever do to earn your disagreement?
She doesn't want your taxpayer money paying for her contraception; she wants her employer/school to do it, like most employers and schools.
She's politically liberal. Therefore I tend to disagree with her on policy matters. But i don't have to agree with her views to regard her as having been insulted and mistreated by assholes calling themselves 'conservative'.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 8:51:22pm |
Interesting Times explained things to me.
I'm calm again.
Man, that freaked-me-out.
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palomino Tue, May 8, 2012 8:54:24pm |
re: #75 Dark_Falcon
She's politically liberal. Therefore I tend to disagree with her on policy matters. But i don't have to agree with her views to regard her as having been insulted and mistreated by assholes calling themselves 'conservative'.
I know she's a liberal. But the only real position of hers that's been made public is on contraception. Her position there is hardly "liberal"; indeed, it's one that most moderates and independents (especially women) share.
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Mich-again Tue, May 8, 2012 8:56:30pm |
re: #18 Interesting Times
Rightwing misogynist piece of filth spews obscene insults at Sandra Fluke, whose classy, dignified response makes said rightwinger's piece-of-filthness all the more obvious:
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I found him on linked in, and then sent a bunch of his tweets to the corporate officers..
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freetoken Tue, May 8, 2012 8:56:42pm |
re: #62 jaunte
Houston imam's 'fringe' comments draw criticism
Sounds like he's been listening to Alex Jones.
Maybe the Imam has been reading JBS material?
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 8:57:42pm |
re: #79 freetoken
Maybe the Imam has been reading JBS material?
Ah the JBS putting the JBS in Jacked-up Bull-Shit since the 50's.
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goddamnedfrank Tue, May 8, 2012 8:57:55pm |
re: #74 palomino
What did Sandra Fluke ever do to earn your disagreement?
She doesn't want your taxpayer money paying for her contraception; she wants her employer/school to do it, like most employers and schools.
And to clarify even further, she want's the premiums she pays to go towards a more efficient and cost effective plan. Whereas right now she's locked into a plan that costs her and the school more precisely because it doesn't cover the kinds of preemptive care that prevents conditions like endometriosis and ovarian tumors. Being required to pay more to get less in order to have someone else's religious convictions foisted upon you seems genuinely un-american. Being put in that position solely due to your gender makes it even more of an egregious abuse of power.
If catholic and other religious universities want to accept and disperse Pell grants and Federally backed student loans then (ignoring the establishment clause of the Constitution for a moment) they still shouldn't be allowed to get away with such blatantly discriminatory behavior.
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palomino Tue, May 8, 2012 8:58:23pm |
re: #72 ggt
Thank You
Your very welcome. I can remember when there was lots of talk of affirmative action for women. No more, because they no longer need it; due to a variety of cultural reasons they are now outperforming men nearly across the board and by a significant margin. If anything it's us men who need affirmative action.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, May 8, 2012 9:00:09pm |
re: #80 HappyWarrior
I'm thinking he has some sort mental issue.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 9:00:30pm |
re: #82 palomino
Your very welcome. I can remember when there was lots of talk of affirmative action for women. No more, because they no longer need it; due to a variety of cultural reasons they are now outperforming men nearly across the board and by a significant margin. If anything it's us men who need affirmative action.
Becareful, there are men who are seriously freaked-out by the challenges of our Brave New World.
IMHO, that is what is behind the Anti-Contraception Idiocy. Whacko White men fear they are going to be outbred by the brown people and are willing to force motherhood on white women,
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goddamnedfrank Tue, May 8, 2012 9:02:50pm |
re: #75 Dark_Falcon
She's politically liberal. Therefore I tend to disagree with her on policy matters.
Why are your explanations in these situations often so thin, facile and lacking in any semblance of specificity? You might actually try to explain what disagreement you have with her on policy matters.
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 9:02:58pm |
re: #83 ProGunLiberal
I'm thinking he has some sort mental issue.
Yeah sounds like the rantings of a madman. But even smart people aren't immune from believing crazy conspiracies. Al it takes is a person who wants to believe. Kind of like Santa, except instead of believing for gifts, one believes that the Illuminati are out to get you.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 9:03:53pm |
re: #86 HappyWarrior
Yeah sounds like the rantings of a madman. But even smart people aren't immune from believing crazy conspiracies. Al it takes is a person who wants to believe. Kind of like Santa, except instead of believing for gifts, one believes that the Illuminati are out to get you.
Yeah, it's the paranoia that makes the difference.
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palomino Tue, May 8, 2012 9:04:52pm |
re: #81 goddamnedfrank
We hear all the time from indoctrinated talking point regurgitators that "America has the world's best healthcare." But, among developed countries, we pay the most and have the shortest life expectancy.
Normally when a product or service costs more and provides less in the way of results, it isn't labeled the "best in the world." Don't you just love propaganda?
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 9:06:43pm |
re: #87 ggt
Yeah, it's the paranoia that makes the difference.
Yep. Really CTers can be really hard to be around because if you don't share the paranoia, well it means, you're part of the grand plot. What that grand plot is, they never tell you but you're part of it if you call out their nonsense.
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Lidane Tue, May 8, 2012 9:12:15pm |
re: #29 Dark_Falcon
I don't agree with Sandra Fluke, but I'll be hanged if I just sit back and let an asshole like that insult a woman in that fashion.
What is there to disagree with her about? She advocated for greater access to birth control because there are more reasons than just preventing pregnancy for birth control pills.
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austin_blue Tue, May 8, 2012 9:13:28pm |
Sadly, sarcasm is probably lost on the R's.
They probably see that as a PSA.
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Lidane Tue, May 8, 2012 9:13:55pm |
re: #63 HappyWarrior
OT but I'm finally listening to Charles' interview. Good stuff.
I just finished listening to it as well. It was really interesting, IMO.
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SpaceJesus Tue, May 8, 2012 9:14:26pm |
GIT THE GUBMENT OUTTA MY MEDICARE, AND GIT IT INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S BEDROOMS! YEHAW! *shoots guns*
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 9:17:13pm |
re: #93 SpaceJesus
GIT THE GUBMENT OUTTA MY MEDICARE, AND GIT IT INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S BEDROOMS! YEHAW! *shoots guns*
I've tried asking about the disconnect on this issue that many on the right seem to have. I never get a honest answer. Usually some Santorum or Bachmann like answer about how giving gays the right to marry is giving them special rights or some shit excuse like that.
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austin_blue Tue, May 8, 2012 9:17:36pm |
re: #93 SpaceJesus
GIT THE GUBMENT OUTTA MY MEDICARE, AND GIT IT INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S BEDROOMS! YEHAW! *shoots guns*
Texas Tech grad? Guns up!
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goddamnedfrank Tue, May 8, 2012 9:19:24pm |
I love how almost nothing sinks into the conservative mindset, how virtually impenetrable it can be. Two months go by, the entirety of Fluke's testimony and the point she was clearly making gets posted, dissected, deconstructed and explained to the point where there's literally no mistaking her very clear and well reasoned position. Yet, somehow, the entire basis for disagreement with her can still be distilled down to an insultingly simplistic "She's politically liberal."
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 9:20:42pm |
re: #89 HappyWarrior
Yep. Really CTers can be really hard to be around because if you don't share the paranoia, well it means, you're part of the grand plot. What that grand plot is, they never tell you but you're part of it if you call out their nonsense.
YEAH, convenient how that works --huh?
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 9:21:53pm |
re: #97 ggt
YEAH, convenient how that works --huh?
It amuses me. I like watching Alex Jones' meltdowns for a laugh. Did you hear that he thinks Angelina Jolie is a war criminal? Gosh, I couldn't stop laughing.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 9:23:02pm |
re: #96 goddamnedfrank
I love how almost nothing sinks into the conservative mindset, how virtually impenetrable it can be. Two months go by, the entirety of Fluke's testimony and the point she was clearly making gets posted, dissected, deconstructed and explained to the point where there's literally no mistaking her very clear and well reasoned position. Yet, somehow, the entire basis for disagreement with her can still be distilled down to an insultingly simplistic "She's politically liberal."
"IT'S THE ECONOMY, Stupid."
The only think that registers is money --one has to make the topic relevant to money.
I don't think its such a long walk to go from women's preventative healthcare to a society's financial stability --but that is just me.
Not calling you stupid, just quoting.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 9:24:41pm |
re: #98 HappyWarrior
It amuses me. I like watching Alex Jones' meltdowns for a laugh. Did you hear that he thinks Angelina Jolie is a war criminal? Gosh, I couldn't stop laughing.
Does he think the movie "Salt" was a documentary?
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freetoken Tue, May 8, 2012 9:24:56pm |
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 9:26:18pm |
re: #100 ggt
Does he think the movie "Salt" was a documentary?
Hahaha probably does knowing that guy. My favorite CT nut is David Icke, who is best known for spreading the royal family and others like the Bushes and Rothchild family are actually a reptilian race conspiracy.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, May 8, 2012 9:26:34pm |
re: #98 HappyWarrior
It amuses me. I like watching Alex Jones' meltdowns for a laugh. Did you hear that he thinks Angelina Jolie is a war criminal? Gosh, I couldn't stop laughing.
What did Angelina do now?
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, May 8, 2012 9:27:44pm |
re: #102 HappyWarrior
Hahaha probably does knowing that guy. My favorite CT nut is David Icke, who is best known for spreading the royal family and others like the Bushes and Rothchild family are actually a reptilian race conspiracy.
I had a truly bizarre encounter a year or so ago, online, with an anti-Israel nut who linked, as part of her argument, to David Icke's site.
I pointed out that David Icke thinks the Queen of England is a big lizard, but she didn't seem to think that made him less of an authority on the evils of Zionism.
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 9:28:05pm |
re: #103 SanFranciscoZionist
What did Angelina do now?
I think he did it in response to her support of capturing Joseph Kony. You know Jones, he thinks guys like Kony are made up.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 9:28:29pm |
re: #102 HappyWarrior
Hahaha probably does knowing that guy. My favorite CT nut is David Icke, who is best known for spreading the royal family and others like the Bushes and Rothchild family are actually a reptilian race conspiracy.
Sounds like he has been doing same combination of drugs Hunter S Thompson was doing in Vegas . . . .
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 9:29:09pm |
re: #105 HappyWarrior
I think he did it in response to her support of capturing Joseph Kony. You know Jones, he thinks guys like Kony are made up.
A racist doesn't believe evil black men exist?
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Lidane Tue, May 8, 2012 9:29:42pm |
re: #106 ggt
Sounds like he has been doing same combination of drugs Hunter S Thompson was doing in Vegas . . .
Except that Hunter's drug-addled writing was entertaining. Haha.
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austin_blue Tue, May 8, 2012 9:30:04pm |
re: #96 goddamnedfrank
I love how almost nothing sinks into the conservative mindset, how virtually impenetrable it can be. Two months go by, the entirety of Fluke's testimony and the point she was clearly making gets posted, dissected, deconstructed and explained to the point where there's literally no mistaking her very clear and well reasoned position. Yet, somehow, the entire basis for disagreement with her can still be distilled down to an insultingly simplistic "She's politically liberal."
Yeah, well, she's a slut. Rush told me so.
The whole discussion has nothing to do with women's health. Birth control is right out, but Viagra is right in. Go figure.
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 9:30:11pm |
re: #107 ggt
A racist doesn't believe evil black men exist?
He believes he exists in the literal sense I am sure, but he thinks Kony is a scapegoat.
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Mich-again Tue, May 8, 2012 9:32:40pm |
re: #106 ggt
Sounds like he has been doing same combination of drugs Hunter S Thompson was doing in Vegas . . .
As your attorney, I advise you to hand me that bottle and those pills..
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 9:33:11pm |
re: #104 SanFranciscoZionist
I had a truly bizarre encounter a year or so ago, online, with an anti-Israel nut who linked, as part of her argument, to David Icke's site.
I pointed out that David Icke thinks the Queen of England is a big lizard, but she didn't seem to think that made him less of an authority on the evils of Zionism.
Yeah, I've seen people link to his stuff to prove their points. And I have to be like dude he believes the royals are lizard people, lizard people! As I said, CTers like that amuse more than piss me off because they're just that inane. I wouldn't trust anything Icke writes on anything much less Israel.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 9:33:40pm |
GOOD NEWS!
Brat Puppy has learned the difference between leather and rubber.
He was chewing a leather handle to my bag and I said "THAT is not yours!" He left it and went to a leather shoe. I repeated, "THAT is not yours!". He left it and walked away.
I hear chewing that sounds a lot like another leather piece was found and got out of my chair to investigate. Lo and Behold! He got his Pokey and was chewing on it.
Much praise and ear pats ensued.
I may survive living with this dog afterall.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 9:34:24pm |
re: #111 Mich-again
As your attorney, I advise you to hand me that bottle and those pills..
Dude, I don't have enough to share.
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austin_blue Tue, May 8, 2012 9:37:20pm |
re: #111 Mich-again
As your attorney, I advise you to hand me that bottle and those pills..
Savage Lucy, teeth like baseballs, eyes like jellied fire.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 9:40:06pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, May 8, 2012 9:41:22pm |
re: #106 ggt
Sounds like he has been doing same combination of drugs Hunter S Thompson was doing in Vegas . . .
If he says anything about "bat country," I'm leaving.
/
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freetoken Tue, May 8, 2012 9:49:32pm |
So, looking at the what Lugar wrote:
Lugar's parting words: Part defense, part warning
Lugar had his aides distribute a prepared statement that was part detailed defense of his ill-fated and often maligned campaign strategy, and part stark warning to both parties about the divisive state of American politics -- starting with Richard Mourdock, the Republican who beat him.
"His embrace of an unrelenting partisan mindset is irreconcilable with my philosophy of governance and my experience of what brings results for Hoosiers in the Senate. In effect, what he has promised in this campaign is reflexive votes for a rejectionist orthodoxy and rigid opposition to the actions and proposals of the other party," Lugar wrote of Mourdock,
Mourdock appealed to Republican voters by arguing Lugar's tolerance for compromise should be replaced by stand-your-ground confrontation."He has pledged his support to groups whose prime mission is to cleanse the Republican party of those who stray from orthodoxy as they see it," said Lugar of the GOP opponent who beat him.
"This is not conducive to problem solving and governance. And he will find that unless he modifies his approach, he will achieve little as a legislator. Worse, he will help delay solutions that are totally beyond the capacity of partisan majorities to achieve," said Lugar.
[...]
He said if Republicans continue to make it difficult for legislators to find compromise, "we will be relegated to minority status. Parties don't succeed for long if they stop appealing to voters who may disagree with them on some issues."
And he didn't stop there.
His stinging words about today's divisive politics were reminiscent of moderate Republican Senator Olympia Snowe's open disgust for what the process has become when she announced she was retiring.
"I don't remember a time when so many topics have become politically unmentionable in one party or the other. Republicans cannot admit to any nuance in policy on climate change. Republican members are now expected to take pledges against any tax increases. For two consecutive presidential nomination cycles, GOP candidates competed with one another to express the most strident anti-immigration view, even at the risk of alienating a huge voting bloc," said Lugar.
[...]
The problem is, not matter how wise Lugar's words, the masses of registered GOP voters who don't keep up on these things - all those little grey haired ladies watching DWTS - will still go to the polls are vote their party line, not really understanding what is going on within the GOP.
I agree with Lugar that the GOP is on the road to permanent minority status, but I fear it will take longer than some expect, and in the mean time great damage will be done.
And I also note the religious language that Lugar used. He's quite aware the the GOP "base" now is being reduced to Christian fundamentalists and that they are just sheep to the monied interests who know how to manipulate crowds.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 9:59:22pm |
re: #118 freetoken
Any modicum of moderation has left the GOP this election cycle.
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Mich-again Tue, May 8, 2012 10:01:30pm |
re: #118 freetoken
Lugar was one of Ronald Reagan's best buddies in the Senate. That the 2012 version of the GOP kicked him to the curb should be part of the Obama re-election campaign. This is not your Gipper's GOP.
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SpaceJesus Tue, May 8, 2012 10:02:05pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 10:03:06pm |
I almost forgot the cuteness for tonite.
I like the second picture --it looks like he is talking (or burbing)
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 10:03:19pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, May 8, 2012 10:03:33pm |
re: #118 freetoken
So, looking at the what Lugar wrote:
Lugar's parting words: Part defense, part warning
The problem is, not matter how wise Lugar's words, the masses of registered GOP voters who don't keep up on these things - all those little grey haired ladies watching DWTS - will still go to the polls are vote their party line, not really understanding what is going on within the GOP.
I agree with Lugar that the GOP is on the road to permanent minority status, but I fear it will take longer than some expect, and in the mean time great damage will be done.
And I also note the religious language that Lugar used. He's quite aware the the GOP "base" now is being reduced to Christian fundamentalists and that they are just sheep to the monied interests who know how to manipulate crowds.
Thing about Lugar, about Snowe, even about Ahnold the other day, is that these revelations are only coming after they might have mattered. Lord knows there's gotta be more folks like them on Capital Hill, shocked at what's become of their party, but keeping their lips shut for fear that it will hurt them come the next reelection bid.
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 10:06:11pm |
Lugar like Bob Bennett in Utah last year is just another Senate Republican who committed the sin of compromise. The GOP if you ask me deserves to have minority status. What have their leadership done other than shrill for corporate interests over the interests of the American people. You have Republican committee chairs in the house who prefer cutting things like Meals on Wheels and school lunches to corporate tax increases. Lugar was a conservative but he wasn't foaming at the mouth partisan. As voices like that are replaced in the Republican caucus by partisans who value that more than statesmanship, the worse things will be in the Senate.
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freetoken Tue, May 8, 2012 10:08:06pm |
re: #124 Targetpractice
It's part of being "conservative", which in this case means the most common denotation, in that those three were never known for being cutting edge as far as being in front of modern society.
They and so many older Republicans are now learning the truth about the deal they made years ago with the Religious Right (the Falwell lead group) - that religious fundamentalists will not stop until they have purged out what they consider "evil".
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Mich-again Tue, May 8, 2012 10:08:24pm |
re: #124 Targetpractice
Lord knows there's gotta be more folks like them on Capital Hill, shocked at what's become of their party, but keeping their lips shut for fear that it will hurt them come the next reelection bid.
Then they deserve to get steamrolled for being timid little pansy asses. The next great GOP leader will be the one who shouts out enough of this bullshit to the Birchers who are taking over the party.
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, May 8, 2012 10:10:27pm |
re: #120 Mich-again
Lugar was one of Ronald Reagan's best buddies in the Senate. That the 2012 version of the GOP kicked him to the curb should be part of the Obama re-election campaign. This is not your Gipper's GOP.
This should clue in anyone who says that they're a sane non-TPer Reagan Republican; the fact that what passes for the party base nowadays has rid the party of one of Reagan's staunchest GOP allies says plenty. Basically, the GOP, as it exists today, only wants to invoke Reagan when they can use him as a magical wild card to justify their actions or to beat the Dems over the head; when it comes to dealing with the reality of his administration, they run away from it.
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freetoken Tue, May 8, 2012 10:12:47pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, May 8, 2012 10:13:15pm |
re: #128 ArthurSlugworth
This should clue in anyone who says that they're a sane non-TPer Reagan Republican; the fact that what passes for the party base nowadays has rid the party of one of Reagan's staunchest GOP allies says plenty. Basically, the GOP, as it exists today, only want to invoke Reagan when they can use him as a magical wild card to justify their actions or beat the Dems over the head; when it comes to dealing with the reality of his administration, they run away from it.
I've heard the modern GOP described as a cargo cult built up around Reagan, and I think it the best description I've heard.
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 10:16:04pm |
I think another part of the problem is that there really are no moderates in leadership at all. Plus the party has grown more regional too. I always liked what I heard that Goldwater said in 1996 to Dole about how he and Dole had at one point been the conservatives in the party but now they were the new liberals. And arguably instead of moving forward on issues that the country has e.g. choice, gay rights, immigration, this is a party that is about exclusion rather than inclusion.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 10:16:07pm |
I have to sleep,
nytol.
Thanks for the support.
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Lidane Tue, May 8, 2012 10:17:00pm |
re: #132 Targetpractice
I've heard the modern GOP described as a cargo cult built up around an unrealistic, idealized version of Reagan that never existed, and I think it the best description I've heard.
FTFY
Personally, I think if the GOP is determined to continue on this ideological purge and in avoiding things like the Enlightenment, reason, science, critical thinking and anything more modern than the antebellum South, then they deserve to become an irrelevant, permanent minority party.
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 10:18:08pm |
OT but I feel a little dumb for not knowing Kitty from Arrested Development was in this video.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, May 8, 2012 10:18:18pm |
re: #136 Lidane
FTFY
Personally, I think if the GOP is determined to continue on this ideological purge and in avoiding things like the Enlightenment, reason, science, critical thinking and anything more modern than the antebellum South, then they deserve to become an irrelevant, permanent minority party.
They've morphed into the DixieCrats of the 1950's.
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 10:22:04pm |
They go from a party whose leadership supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to having rising stars like Rand Paul who say they would oppose that if it were proposed now. They've gone from President Bush who made an effort to respect the hopes and dreams of immigrants to Mitt Romney and Kris Koblash. They've gone from balance the budget to tax cuts or no deal. They've gone from Nixon's health care plan which was similar to Obama's to death panels. From Margaret Chase Smith to Sarah Palin. The GOP in 2012 is a case study I think in devolution.
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Lidane Tue, May 8, 2012 10:23:29pm |
re: #138 ggt
They've morphed into the DixieCrats of the 1950's.
Seriously. And even that's too modern for some of the ideas that these teabagger candidates spout. It's like the GOP has become an unholy hybrid of the Dixiecrats and the Know Nothings.
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Targetpractice Tue, May 8, 2012 10:24:09pm |
re: #134 HappyWarrior
I think another part of the problem is that there really are no moderates in leadership at all. Plus the party has grown more regional too. I always liked what I heard that Goldwater said in 1996 to Dole about how he and Dole had at one point been the conservatives in the party but now they were the new liberals. And arguably instead of moving forward on issues that the country has e.g. choice, gay rights, immigration, this is a party that is about exclusion rather than inclusion.
I've gotten the impression that Boehner is what one might consider a "moderate" in the modern GOP, or at least someone who is open to compromise and making deals. The problem is that he's only really leading two things: jack and shit.
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Digital Display Tue, May 8, 2012 10:26:32pm |
Lakers Lose! Awesome..It's after midnight and this was worth every minute!
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 10:30:36pm |
re: #141 Targetpractice
I've gotten the impression that Boehner is what one might consider a "moderate" in the modern GOP, or at least someone who is open to compromise and making deals. The problem is that he's only really leading two things: jack and shit.
Yeah could have a point there. I think as you've gotten at that Boehner has a real hard time controlling his caucus.
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engineer cat Tue, May 8, 2012 10:33:25pm |
Romney
Believe In America
like in fairies or santa claus?
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freetoken Tue, May 8, 2012 10:37:52pm |
re: #141 Targetpractice
I've gotten the impression that Boehner is what one might consider a "moderate" in the modern GOP, ...
He was, at one time, at least one of the more reasonable let's-make-a-deal House GOP members. But he sold that horse to become the Speaker, and now bows before the Tea Partiers.
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Digital Display Tue, May 8, 2012 10:40:26pm |
re: #142 HoosierHoops
Lakers Lose! Awesome..It's after midnight and this was worth every minute!
I'm so happy.. 6:30 am I'll be in the shower singing loudly.
It could be much worse.. Standing in dejection with warm water pouring over me cursing the Lakers again..
It's happy dance time!
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Targetpractice Tue, May 8, 2012 10:40:59pm |
re: #145 freetoken
He was, at one time, at least one of the more reasonable let's-make-a-deal House GOP members. But he sold that horse to become the Speaker, and now bows before the Tea Partiers.
He bows, but only because he's afraid if he doesn't, Cantor will put a dagger between his shoulder blades. I'm almost convinced now that Boehner's future as Speaker rests upon how well the GOP does at the polls come November. If they do poorly, we may see Speaker Cantor in the coming year.
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HappyWarrior Tue, May 8, 2012 10:46:52pm |
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
Yikes. Probably more armchair revolutionaries but still. I also love that they call Obama a "socialist ideologue." Who's the one threatening armed revolution if things don't go their way, assholes? 'Tis you.
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AK-47% Wed, May 9, 2012 12:11:02am |
re: #62 jaunte
Houston imam's 'fringe' comments draw criticism
Sounds like he's been listening to Alex Jones.
Reminds me that the "clash of civilzations" is not about Islam vs (Judeo-) Christianity, but between fundamentalism and enlightenment.
No religion has a monopoly on either...
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ProGunLiberal Wed, May 9, 2012 12:16:32am |
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AK-47% Wed, May 9, 2012 12:24:13am |
re: #150 ProGunLiberal
you could also call it a clash between reason and sanity vs madness and supersition.
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ProGunLiberal Wed, May 9, 2012 12:32:22am |
re: #151 Expand Your Ground
I see the madness, but not the superstition.
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AK-47% Wed, May 9, 2012 12:41:15am |
re: #152 ProGunLiberal
I see the madness, but not the superstition.
Remember the previous thread about Planned Parenthood being in collusion with Satan?
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ProGunLiberal Wed, May 9, 2012 12:49:50am |
re: #153 Expand Your Ground
Yes I do. It's just that this case doesn't go into my of superstition.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, May 9, 2012 1:23:34am |
Great. Because I wasn't willing to entertain Bob Levin's idle, unsubstantiated or debunked conspiracy theories about who financed the Nazis, and instead pointed out that they financed themselves, he accuses me now of "[absolving] many people of their more than willing participation in Nazi society".
Scumbag.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 2:30:13am |
I salute Sen. Lugar, one of the few elected Republicans I can respect. This statesman's departure shows that contrary to naive forecasts the GOP continues on its road of radicalization.
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freetoken Wed, May 9, 2012 3:09:35am |
Since the Way Back Machine is plugged into my music machine, here is one from Gilbert Becaud:
which was subsequently recorded in English by the Everly Brothers:
I prefer the Becaud version.
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Aye Pod Wed, May 9, 2012 3:26:56am |
Isn't this hilarious?
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]
US officials are quoted as saying that the person dispatched by Yemen-based al-Qaeda to attack a US-bound plane had infiltrated the group.
In an apparent intelligence coup, the agent left Yemen with the device and delivered it to the CIA.
Total humiliation for Al Quaeda (and no countries invaded either).
Hang on - I can't say THAT - I'm a lefty who has a problem with terrorism/
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Tigger2005 Wed, May 9, 2012 3:29:26am |
re: #18 Interesting Times
Rightwing misogynist piece of filth spews obscene insults at Sandra Fluke, whose classy, dignified response makes said rightwinger's piece-of-filthness all the more obvious:
[Embedded content]
God. I visited his Twitter page. Made me want to puke all over the screen. Calling him a piece of filth is generous. This guy is a full on ten day old maggot infested feces from Rush Limbaugh.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 3:37:11am |
re: #161 Aye Pod
Isn't this hilarious?
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]
Total humiliation for Al Quaeda (and no countries invaded either).
Hang on - I can't say THAT - I'm a lefty who has a problem with terrorism/
I'm bringing you a message from the Learned Elders of Leftism: excommunicated!!!
/
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 3:37:29am |
re: #162 Tigger2005
The creepy forced smile.
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Aye Pod Wed, May 9, 2012 3:40:16am |
Sean Carroll - 'The case for naturalism':
“Atheism” is a fine word, and I’m happy to describe myself as an atheist. God is an idea that has consequences, and those consequences don’t accord with the world we experience any better than countless other ideas we’ve given up on. But given a choice I would always describe myself first as a “naturalist” — someone who believes that there is only one realm of reality, the material world, which obeys natural laws, and that we human beings are part of it. “Atheism” is ultimately about rejecting a certain idea, while “naturalism” is about a positive acceptance of a comprehensive worldview. Naturalists have a lot more work to do than simply rejecting God; they bear the responsibility of understanding how to live a meaningful life in a universe without built-in purpose.
[Link: blogs.discovermagazine.com...]
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Tigger2005 Wed, May 9, 2012 3:40:36am |
re: #164 May Day! May Day!
The creepy forced smile.
That's a smile? It looks like the snarl of a rabid dog.
Says he's a father. I don't understand why women ever have sex with these things.
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freetoken Wed, May 9, 2012 3:45:44am |
re: #165 Aye Pod
The philosophers will of course object.
... there is only one realm of reality, the material world, which obeys natural laws ...
How does he know that?
And if the material world obeys...
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Aye Pod Wed, May 9, 2012 3:48:57am |
re: #162 Tigger2005
God. I visited his Twitter page. Made me want to puke all over the screen. Calling him a piece of filth is generous. This guy is a full on ten day old maggot infested feces from Rush Limbaugh.
I seriously pity those maggots.
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Aye Pod Wed, May 9, 2012 3:55:09am |
re: #167 freetoken
The philosophers will of course object.
How does he know that?
And if the material world obeys...
An atheist who is also a dualist (someone perhaps like David Chalmers) might well object.
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Aye Pod Wed, May 9, 2012 3:58:24am |
Having said that dualism is hardly all the rage these days in philosophy circles.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 4:00:46am |
re: #170 Aye Pod
Having said that dualism is hardly all the rage these days in philosophy circles.
It doesn't make much sense IMHO.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, May 9, 2012 4:01:17am |
re: #85 goddamnedfrank
Why are your explanations in these situations often so thin, facile and lacking in any semblance of specificity? You might actually try to explain what disagreement you have with her on policy matters.
Because the disagreement wasn't the point. The point was that she was being gone after by a jerk and I felt that the jerk's actions were both stupid and deserving of a smackdown.
Sorry about the long delay, I apparently had a narcoleptic episode bad enough that when I woke up I went straight to bed. I say 'apparently' because I don't remember going to bed last night.
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Decatur Deb Wed, May 9, 2012 4:02:11am |
There might be no god, but there is coffee. Or at least it appears that there is coffee.
'Morning, all.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 4:03:25am |
re: #173 Decatur Deb
There might be no god, but there is coffee. Or at least it appears that there is coffee.
'Morning, all.
Are you sure that it appears that there is coffee?
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Decatur Deb Wed, May 9, 2012 4:05:04am |
Something has transubstantiated in my cup. It has all the accidents of coffee, could be maple syrup.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, May 9, 2012 4:05:30am |
re: #174 May Day! May Day!
Are you sure that it appears that there is coffee?
It should appear that way to you as well. Let me make it clearer... [pours cold coffee over Sergey's head]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 4:06:20am |
re: #176 Dark_Falcon
It should appear that way to you as well. Let me make it clearer... [pours cold coffee over Sergey's head]
It was but an apparition of me in the Matrix. I felt nothing. Bwahaha.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 4:07:41am |
re: #175 Decatur Deb
Something has transubstantiated in my cup. It has all the accidents of coffee, could be maple syrup.
You can't be sure that what you think of as coffee is not but a false memory of events one millisecond removed.
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Decatur Deb Wed, May 9, 2012 4:11:24am |
re: #178 May Day! May Day!
You can't be sure that what you think of as coffee is not but a false memory of events one millisecond removed.
I believe it is coffee because I want to believe it is coffee.
Everyone is hung up on predation in the church. No one discusses the abuse of teaching 7-yr olds that the universe they see, feel, touch, and taste could actually be something else entirely.
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Aye Pod Wed, May 9, 2012 4:11:43am |
re: #171 May Day! May Day!
It doesn't make much sense IMHO.
Me neither. If I remember correctly even Chalmers whom I mentioned isn't really a ontological dualist anyway - I think he's more like a 'functional dualist'
(wrt mind-brain problem). I think full-on ontological dualism is pretty much dead from internal inconsistencies.
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Obdicut Wed, May 9, 2012 4:12:40am |
re: #178 May Day! May Day!
You can't be sure that what you think of as coffee is not but a false memory of events one millisecond removed.
Nah, it's all just a hologram.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 4:14:33am |
re: #181 Obdicut
Nah, it's all just a hologram.
A hologram coffee can still be coffee in some sense, it's just not made of the stuff we think it is made of. False memory coffee never was in the first place...
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 4:16:36am |
Thank you, Artist formerly known as Sonic the Hedgehog ;)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 4:18:05am |
The Anon supposedly attacks the Kremlin sites.
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Decatur Deb Wed, May 9, 2012 4:21:08am |
re: #184 May Day! May Day!
The Anon supposedly attacks the Kremlin sites.
Searching for the ultimate Tetris cheat.
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RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 4:26:55am |
re: #158 May Day! May Day!
I salute Sen. Lugar, one of the few elected Republicans I can respect. This statesman's departure shows that contrary to naive forecasts the GOP continues on its road of radicalization.
Sen. Richard Lugar: Five reasons he lost
[Link: www.indystar.com...]
I think the two biggest are...:
2. His voting record. Lugar voted for the Wall Street and auto bailouts, and the fact that those came at the request of President George W. Bush didn't help him any.
....
4. Lack of coherent campaign message. There was no cohesive theme. Lugar didn't remind voters until the very end of what he had done for them. And much of the campaign in the final weeks seemed more about potshots at Mourdock, which clashed with voters' image of Lugar as a statesman.
I'll admit I'm shocked he lost by 22pts. It was a slaughter. 2 months ago I thought he was still a shoo-in but he ran a horrible campaign, he's 80, and he hasn't actually lived in IN since 1977. He ran up against a decent candidate and acted like he was having a panic attack.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, May 9, 2012 4:27:22am |
re: #184 May Day! May Day!
The Anon supposedly attacks the Kremlin sites.
Those guys must have a death wish, going after Putin like that. His intel services are good in cyberspace, and Russia's reach is long.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, May 9, 2012 4:29:37am |
re: #186 RogueOne
Sen. Richard Lugar: Five reasons he lost
[Link: www.indystar.com...]I think the two biggest are...:
I'll admit I'm shocked he lost by 22pts. It was a slaughter. 2 months ago I thought he was still a shoo-in but he ran a horrible campaign, he's 80, and he hasn't actually lived in IN since 1977. He ran up against a decent candidate and acted like he was having a panic attack.
We saw that with Bennett in Utah in 2010. Neither of those two saw the danger till it was already great, and so were left in panic mode. John McCain in 2010, by contrast, saw the primary challenge coming and was ready, as a result he kept his seat.
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RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 4:31:52am |
On a related note, 2 biggest "surprises" (IMO) from last evening...
Mourdock received almost as many votes as Romney...
[Link: www.indystar.com...]
Mitt Romney 406,594 - 65 percent
...
Richard Mourdock 396,938 - 61 percent
And Scott Walker picked up more votes than Falk and Barrett combined:
[Link: www.jsonline.com...]
Barrett , Tom Dem 390,109
Falk , Kathleen Dem 228,940
.....
Walker , Scott (i) GOP 626,538
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 4:32:38am |
re: #186 RogueOne
Mourdock: "They want a Senator who will walk the parade routes, visit the county fairs and festivals, and who will eat pork tenderloin and an ear of corn."
On this one I gotta agree with Killgore above. It's not (shouldn't be) a statesman's routine or a factor at all. If voters think it's a factor, they're stupid voters who will get what they deserve.
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RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 4:34:26am |
re: #188 Dark_Falcon
We saw that with Bennett in Utah in 2010. Neither of those two saw the danger till it was already great, and so were left in panic mode. John McCain in 2010, by contrast, saw the primary challenge coming and was ready, as a result he kept his seat.
Lugar spent 3x more money than Mourdock (and they were still complaining last night about the money Mourdock was getting from out-of-state) and almost all of it was on really bad negative tv/radio ads. I had planned on voting in the repub primary (for Lugar) but after all those ads I decided to stay out of it.
OTOH, I got guilted into voting in the Dem primary yesterday. First time ever!
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RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 4:37:21am |
re: #190 May Day! May Day!
I was talking to a local Judge (the gentleman that guilted me into voting) yesterday about the differences in running over the last 30 years. His contention was those visits (the local committees, the fairs, the churches) are important and no one wants to do it anymore. His belief is if you don't get the support of those local officials you aren't going to be pull off a local race much less a statewide one.
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Decatur Deb Wed, May 9, 2012 4:39:09am |
re: #190 May Day! May Day!
Mourdock: "They want a Senator who will walk the parade routes, visit the county fairs and festivals, and who will eat pork tenderloin and an ear of corn."
...snip
There goes the frum vote.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 4:39:50am |
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Decatur Deb Wed, May 9, 2012 4:40:20am |
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RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 4:40:55am |
re: #195 Decatur Deb
Or Weightwatchers.
That's half the voters in this state! A weightwatchers candidate could clean up around here.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 4:50:19am |
re: #202 Gus
So what's the skinny on the Teabilly that Lugar lost to?
Likes biting corn and tenderloin.
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 4:51:16am |
re: #203 May Day! May Day!
Likes biting corn and tenderloin.
Ah. Another intellectual conservative speaking to the hearts and minds of the pitch forked masses.
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 4:51:58am |
Mary Frances Forrester, right, the wife of the late N.C. State Senator James Forrester, embraces Tami Fitzgerald from Vote For Marriage NC as they celebrate the passage of Amendment One during an election night party at the N. Raleigh Hilton on Tuesday May 8, 2012. Senator Forrester was the person who proposed Amendment One before his death.
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AK-47% Wed, May 9, 2012 4:52:14am |
re: #204 Gus
Ah. Another intellectual conservative speaking to the hearts and minds of the pitch forked masses.
It's all about ideological purity over competence. Just like Russia under Stalin...
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Decatur Deb Wed, May 9, 2012 4:52:21am |
re: #201 Aye Pod
It sounds like another in a long line of sensible environmental interventions. PS Ice predicted you'd like this story :)
Kudzu was introduced here for grazing and erosion control.
[Link: www.jjanthony.com...]
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 4:52:24am |
re: #205 Gus
Mary Frances Forrester, right, the wife of the late N.C. State Senator James Forrester, embraces Tami Fitzgerald from Vote For Marriage NC as they celebrate the passage of Amendment One during an election night party at the N. Raleigh Hilton on Tuesday May 8, 2012. Senator Forrester was the person who proposed Amendment One before his death.
Insert "no true Scotsman fallacies here.
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RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 4:52:42am |
re: #201 Aye Pod
I was thinking Rabbits but those were released for a different reason (hunting) so they may not count.
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Obdicut Wed, May 9, 2012 4:53:45am |
re: #208 Gus
Damn, it's so bizarre to see people celebrating bigotry.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 4:54:32am |
re: #204 Gus
Ah. Another intellectual conservative speaking to the hearts and minds of the pitch forked masses.
OK, he's also a geologist, so that lowers his yahoo factor down a notch. Then again, he probably overcompensates his acceptance of old earth with something else.
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RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 4:55:38am |
re: #202 Gus
So what's the skinny on the Teabilly that Lugar lost to?
He's State Treasurer. Won 2 statewide elections including over 60% of the vote last time. His Dem opponent bailed on his congressional seat mostly because he wasn't going to win. He won by 1.5% last time in a race where the turnout was very low. There wasn't much of a shot of him winning re-election in '12.
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Aye Pod Wed, May 9, 2012 4:57:51am |
re: #207 Decatur Deb
Kudzu was introduced here for grazing and erosion control.
[Link: www.jjanthony.com...]
Wow. Looks cool though.
| 217 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 5:00:22am |
[Link: blogs.scientificamerican.com...]
“Those of us who are trained in the sciences look at problems differently,” says Mourdock. “We are more analytical and less ready to accept what appears to be the obvious answer.”But is he prepared to balance the views of his conservative constituents with his own training in science when faced with issues of climate change, reproductive health and evolutionary science?
[...]
Mourdock says that his background in science will allow him to take an analytical approach to politics. He scoffs at the notion that conservatives are waging a war on science.
“I think that’s silly. Galileo was attacked. Darwin was attacked. I don’t know that this is a political attack so much as a societal attack,” says Mourdock. “If it’s political, it’s because so much in our lives, and I’m not just talking science here anymore, seems to require involvement of government.”
Mourdock says that topics like teaching creationism in schools should be debated at the local level, not the national level.
[...]
Mourdock self-identifies as a Christian, but he does not take a Creationist view on the origin of the Universe. He says it is important that political parties not be divided into a party for science and a party against science.
“I tell my Christian friends: when you look at the rock record, the fossil record, of course evolution occurred. It continues to occur,” says Mourdock. “It is important that we understand that others can disagree. I’m more concerned, frankly, when I see science misused by politicians.”
Specifically, Mourdock says the debate is not over on global climate change. He says that in science the debate never ends.
“That is the most anti-scientific stance that you can take,” says Mourdock. “It’s never over. One question leads to another, leads to another, leads to another.”
Mourdock says there will be a consensus of a majority on climate change, but his preference is that it be based on science that is questioned. (Read positions by AGU , GSA and AAAS.)
“Politicians are always going to do a horrible job of assessing science when there is no clear, obvious outcome,” says Mourdock, “because science is being used to drive a political outcome.”
The bottom line is funding, he says.
“One group will want one outcome because it may mean funding in this area,” says Mourdock, “and another group will want another outcome because it means there won’t be funding in that area. It’s not about what the science says. It’s about how the science is being used.”
I'll give him that he's head above TP when it comes to evolution. But he is still full of BS on teaching science and about settled science.
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:03:07am |
re: #217 May Day! May Day!
I'll give him that he's head above TP when it comes to evolution. But he is still full of BS on teaching science and about settled science.
Just another pandering politico that believes in a spaghetti monster that doesn't exist.
| 219 |
Aye Pod Wed, May 9, 2012 5:04:35am |
re: #216 Gus
Billy Graham is a prick.
You can quote me on that.
blubber...not nice to attack ALL christians like that...sniff...
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:05:33am |
re: #219 Aye Pod
blubber...not nice to attack ALL christians like that...sniff...
[Embedded content]
Hang on. Let me go get my BANJO.
//
| 221 |
RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 5:06:16am |
All 3 IN candidates (Mourdock, Lugar, Connelly) are Pro-choice, Pro-war on drugs, "Tough on crime!!", Pro-drilling, and Pro-gun. Ironically, Lugar was to the left of the Dem (Connelly) on immigration.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 5:07:31am |
re: #216 Gus
Billy Graham is a prick.
You can quote me on that.
What is he up to again?
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
In the taped conversation, Mr Graham said the Jewish "stranglehold" on the media "has got to be broken or this country's going down the drain".
"You believe that?" Nixon replies.
"Yes, sir."
"Oh boy. So do I. I can't ever say that but I believe it," Nixon says.
"If you get elected a second time, then we might be able to do something," Mr Graham replies.
Later in the conversation, when Nixon raises the subject of Jewish influence in Hollywood, Mr Graham says:
"A lot of Jews are great friends of mine. They swarm around me and are friendly to me, because they know that I am friendly to Israel and so forth, but they don't know how I really feel about what they're doing to this country, and I have no power and no way to handle them."
[Link: www.jewishfederations.org...]
At one point on the tape, Nixon and Rev. Graham share their antipathy of American Jews while complimenting "Israeli Jews."
"The best Jews are actually the Israeli Jews," says Nixon.
"That's right," agrees Rev. Graham, who later concurs with Nixon's assertion that a "powerful bloc" of Jews confronts Nixon in the media.
"And they're the ones putting out the pornographic stuff," Rev. Graham adds.
Marty said the split of Evangelicals being "pro-Israel and domestically anti-Semitic is a very familiar story."
But the pro-Israel support is deceptive, he said, because it is based on the belief that a strong Israel is necessary for Jesus to come again, when they believe all Jews will be either converted or killed.
"Israel needs all the friends it can get, but not for these reasons," Marty said.
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]
The 1973 transcript is a wide-ranging conversation between Graham and Nixon in which Graham heaps praise on the president, telling him "Congratulations on everything," and "I believe the Lord is with you."
Nixon raises the news that Israel had mistakenly shot down a Libyan civilian airliner, killing all on board. Nixon says, "What I really think is, deep down in this country, there is a lot of anti-Semitism, and all this is going to do is stir it up."
Graham agrees that it will push anti-Semitism "right to the top." Then he turns the conversation to a report he read somewhere that Israel supposedly wants to "expel all the Christians." Graham mentions Jewish opposition to a Christian evangelical unified campaign, saying Jews are "going right after the church."
He also mentions an upcoming meeting with the interreligious affairs director of the American Jewish Committee, the late Rabbi Marc Tanenbaum. In 1977, the organization honored Graham, saying, according to Graham biographer William Martin, that "most of the progress of Protestant-Jewish relations over the past quarter century was due to Billy Graham."
In 1973, Graham calls Tanenbaum the "cleverest and most brilliant" of the rabbis.
Nixon mentions an upcoming dinner with Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir, and Graham, who said in earlier taped conversations that Israelis were the best kind of Jews, now brings up a biblical reference to the dense and difficult final book of the Bible, Revelation, which says in verse 3:9 that there are those who claim to be Jews who are liars, and that they belong to a "synagogue of Satan."
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:10:08am |
N.C.'s Amendment 1 Doesn't Just Screw Over Gay People
By Samantha Oltman
North Carolinians vote today on Amendment 1, a measure that would amend the state constitution—for the first time ever—to ban gay marriage. It's worth noting that gay marriage is already illegal in North Carolina. But if the amendment passes, which the latest poll suggests it will (with a 55-39 margin), North Carolina will join the 29 other states, including California, Ohio, and Texas, that have amended their constitutions to prohibit marriage between same-sex couples.
But Amendment 1 could also have troubling implications for straight couples. Thanks to the law's vague wording, critics argue it would likely strip away many of the legal rights associated with domestic partnerships or legal unions...
| 225 |
Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:10:58am |
I eagerly await a "Class of 2004" styled kangaroo investigation into the background of Samantha Oltman.
Derp.
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Shropshire_Slasher Wed, May 9, 2012 5:11:20am |
Stop this food talk you are making me humgry.
| 227 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 5:12:59am |
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:13:31am |
New From JMG: COLORADO: Republican Legislators Filibuster Civil Unions Bill Into Oblivion: In a riotous scene, l... bit.ly/LMUg79— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) May 9, 2012
| 229 |
Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:13:59am |
Got it? Even civil unions died in the freaking Colorado house.
This is another hillbilly state.
| 230 |
The Left Wed, May 9, 2012 5:14:32am |
"Republicans, get in my vagina!"
--the vagina is not a clown car.
| 231 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, May 9, 2012 5:14:43am |
re: #229 Gus
Got it? Even civil unions died in the freaking Colorado house.
This is another hillbilly state.
Well, I could've told you that. It's a little different up there in the rarefied air.
| 232 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 5:15:59am |
Politically, Graham is a registered member of the Democratic Party.[41]
o_0
| 233 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, May 9, 2012 5:16:01am |
re: #230 Millicent Islam
"Republicans, get in my vagina!"
--the vagina is not a clown car.
Good morning, {ice}. How are things across the pond? It has been a while.
| 234 |
Decatur Deb Wed, May 9, 2012 5:17:14am |
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The Left Wed, May 9, 2012 5:17:45am |
re: #233 thedopefishlives
Good morning, {ice}. How are things across the pond? It has been a while.
hello little {fishie}! How's the mrs fish and the wee fishspawn?
Things are fine over on this side of the pond, hope all is well with you. :)
| 238 |
Aye Pod Wed, May 9, 2012 5:17:56am |
re: #227 May Day! May Day!
He's the first man to do this while alive. A miracle!
Christ he's nearly 100. I thought he was dead...lol
| 239 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, May 9, 2012 5:19:28am |
re: #236 Millicent Islam
hello little {fishie}! How's the mrs fish and the wee fishspawn?
Things are fine over on this side of the pond, hope all is well with you. :)
We are doing quite well. Recovering from a nasty sinus/cough type infection all around, but otherwise peachy.
| 240 |
Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:19:39am |
Followed by home improvements and how alpha-males can get a wife in a beta-male world.
//
| 241 |
RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 5:19:53am |
re: #228 Gus
The underlying link is pretty funny interesting:
Civil unions bill killed along with 30 other bills in late-night game of political chicken
[Link: www.denverpost.com...]
A bill to allow same-sex couples to form civil unions died on the calendar late Tuesday, taking down more than 30 other measures with it in a dramatic game of political chicken in which no one would blink.
When Republican Speaker Frank McNulty acknowledged there was an impasse and abruptly ended his news conference on the House floor, Coloradans watching in the gallery started chanting: "Shame on you! Shame on you!"
Everyone was kicked out of the gallery after someone yelled, "I hope you (expletive) die!"
.....
in the process of making sure civil unions died on the calendar, a slew of other bills became casualties too.Among the bills ensnared in the tug-of-war in the House: $20 million worth of water projects statewide and a bill that sets a standard for driving while stoned.
.....
Rep. David Balmer, R-Centennial, practically screamed as he pounded on the lectern."Not a one of you has the courage to vote against chocolate!" he said.
I wonder how they were going to set the standard for stoned driving?
| 242 |
RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 5:21:30am |
re: #230 Millicent Islam
"Republicans, get in my vagina!"
--the vagina is not a clown car.
Maybe not yours but I've seen......never mind.
| 244 |
RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 5:22:43am |
| 245 |
RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 5:24:50am |
re: #240 Gus
What was the deal about chocolate and why do you guys hate it so much? I would think with the explosion of med-marijuana shops that chocolate would be the 3rd most popular snack item in the state.
| 246 |
The Left Wed, May 9, 2012 5:25:39am |
re: #245 RogueOne
What was the deal about chocolate and why do you guys hate it so much? I would think with the explosion of med-marijuana shops that chocolate would be the 3rd most popular snack item in the state.
What are 1 and 2? Doritos in there anywhere?
| 247 |
Eventual Carrion Wed, May 9, 2012 5:25:44am |
re: #178 May Day! May Day!
You can't be sure that what you think of as coffee is not but a false memory of events one millisecond removed.
Deja Brew
| 248 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, May 9, 2012 5:25:45am |
re: #243 Millicent Islam
Ha, I've been spending a lot of time reading manboobz lately.
That is so full of win. The thing that scares me is that I didn't even realize that there were places out there that harbored such irrational woman-hate as the guy that the author was quoting.
...Then again, the stalker blog is full of just such types, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.
| 249 |
RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 5:26:35am |
re: #246 Millicent Islam
What are 1 and 2? Doritos in there anywhere?
Doritos and Pizza have to be the top two. Anything else is un-american.
| 251 |
Decatur Deb Wed, May 9, 2012 5:27:52am |
re: #248 thedopefishlives
That is so full of win. The thing that scares me is that I didn't even realize that there were places out there that harbored such irrational woman-hate as the guy that the author was quoting.
...Then again, the stalker blog is full of just such types, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.
Every pathology you can imagine has at least one website. The intertubes is a giant rack of petri dishes.
| 253 |
RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 5:28:52am |
re: #250 Gus
What does Phil Simms have to do with it?
Image: simms.jpg
| 254 |
The Left Wed, May 9, 2012 5:28:59am |
re: #248 thedopefishlives
That is so full of win. The thing that scares me is that I didn't even realize that there were places out there that harbored such irrational woman-hate as the guy that the author was quoting.
...Then again, the stalker blog is full of just such types, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.
It's pretty crazy, isn't it?
| 255 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 5:29:04am |
re: #222 May Day! May Day!
Ugh, Nixon:
[Link: www.adl.org...]
"Anti-Semitism is stronger than we think," Nixon continued. "You know, it's unfortunate. But this has happened to the Jews. It happened in Spain, it happened in Germany, it's happening – and now it's going to happen in American if these people don't start behaving. … It may be they have a death wish. You know that's been the problem with our Jewish friends for centuries."
| 256 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, May 9, 2012 5:29:14am |
re: #251 Decatur Deb
Every pathology you can imagine has at least one website. The intertubes is a giant rack of petri dishes.
It's one thing to know that academically, quite another to read the words on the page and realize that somewhere, on the other side of the keyboard, there's a real live person that actually thinks that.
| 257 |
RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 5:30:39am |
Anyone else notice in the John Travolta hubbub that he sounds like a member of the Mel Gibson fan club?
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Decatur Deb Wed, May 9, 2012 5:30:47am |
re: #256 thedopefishlives
It's one thing to know that academically, quite another to read the words on the page and realize that somewhere, on the other side of the keyboard, there's a real live person that actually thinks that.
Probably better to have them in the open, though recruiting and bandwagon effects get stronger.
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:31:05am |
re: #252 Millicent Islam
Jimmah's been working on a video for Dr Butthurt's Downding Ointment, btw. A new Jimmah-Ice production.
Alternate: Dr. Butthurt's Downding Butter™
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 5:34:33am |
This one is as bad:
[Link: www.independent.co.uk...]
Nixon: There are times when abortions are necessary – I know that... Suppose you have a black and a white.
Charles Colson, Aide: Or a rape.
Nixon: Or a rape... [Abortion] leads to permissiveness. It breaks a family.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 5:36:38am |
re: #263 Gus
Don't disparage the dead!!!
[Clutches pearls.]
I'll mourn President Nixon while you moonbat yahoos dance on graves.
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The Left Wed, May 9, 2012 5:36:41am |
re: #262 May Day! May Day!
This one is as bad:
I remember that, HuffPo or someone blogging about that a couple of years ago under the headline Nixon Would Have Aborted Obama
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:37:52am |
re: #264 May Day! May Day!
I'll mourn President Nixon while you moonbat yahoos dance on graves.
Coming up next! My morning exposé based on a comment found at Daily Kos.
Derp.
//
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 5:38:01am |
Where's Nixon's grave, btw?
Also I need a pair of dancing shoes.../
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:38:33am |
re: #267 May Day! May Day!
Where's Nixon's grave, btw?
Also I need a pair of dancing shoes.../
And a catheter.
//
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Aye Pod Wed, May 9, 2012 5:39:10am |
re: #266 Gus
Coming up next! My morning exposé based on a comment found at Daily Kos.
Derp.
//
Charles must stop talking to outsiders! Outside world bad!
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RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 5:40:10am |
Speaking of HuffPo, Remember the nerd trekkie that managed to get pulled over in IL after leaving a star trek convention in St. Louis? He's still angry...
Terrance Huff Files Lawsuit Against Illinois Police Officer Michael Reichert Over 'Trekkie Traffic Stop'
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
Not surprisingly:
Louis Meyer, the attorney representing Huff and Seaton, told HuffPost via email that his investigation has turned up more complaints against Reichert.
"We have discovered that Officer Reichert has a pattern and practice of fabricating probable cause to try and justify illegal traffic stops," Meyer wrote. "After making these illegal traffic stops, Officer Reichert conducts illegal searches of the individuals and their vehicles. Once again, he fabricates probable cause by falsely claiming that his K9 'alerted' to the presence of drugs in the vehicle."
Meyer added that "others have come forward and are willing to testify regarding their encounters with this officer and how it affected them."
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 5:40:58am |
re: #269 Aye Pod
Here's what I don't get - is Media Matters off limits too? They used to employ Rosenberg and didn't even fire him until he chose to leave... Is somebody using MM's research associating with hateful bigots?
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:41:30am |
re: #269 Aye Pod
Charles must stop talking to outsiders! Outside world bad!
People with extremist views should be EXPOSED! You don't even have to hear him speak in order me to disagree with him. He's an extremist!!!!
People are so OUTRAGED about Rush Limbaugh. I fear that censoring him will only lead to the destruction of political dialogue. You don't have to listen to him.
Wanna see a picture of my cat?
//
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:44:24am |
Charles Johnson gladly interviews with 911 truther and Bradley Manning supporter! Interviewer is also a supporter of the ANTISEMITIC!!! MJ Rosenberg.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 5:45:27am |
Who has won once I have become desensitized to outrageous outrage and am simply bored with it?
| 277 |
RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 5:45:51am |
More on the Kelly Thomas hearing and the release of the new video:
Videotape of Kelly Thomas beating rattles courtroom
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]
A videotape showing police beating victim Kelly Thomas elicited gasps and groans in a Santa Ana courtroom on Monday.
At one point, the judge stopped the tape and asked those who could not handle viewing it to leave the courtroom.
A shirtless Kelly Thomas is shown being hit again and again with fists, a baton and finally the butt of a stun gun by Fullerton police officers. In the video he can be heard repeatedly saying he's sorry and asking for his father.
If you haven't seen it, it's pretty brutal viewing.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 5:48:43am |
re: #277 RogueOne
The radical and violent police movement!
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 5:49:27am |
re: #279 May Day! May Day!
The radical and violent police movement!
"Now we see the violence inherent in the system!" is not amusing in this context.
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RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 5:50:29am |
re: #279 May Day! May Day!
Speaking of which....stay out of any demonstrations!
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
In the afternoon, a legislator asked Dmitry Peskov, Putin’s press secretary, whether he regretted saying riot police who clubbed protesters at a legal demonstration Sunday should have treated them even more harshly.
“They were too soft,” Peskov said, according to a tweet from Duma deputy Ilya Ponomarev. “Protesters who hurt riot police should have their livers smeared on the asphalt.” There was no immediate response from Peskov to the reported comment, which caused an outcry among opposition activists.
wtf!
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:50:37am |
re: #281 Millicent Islam
Time for some music...
[Embedded content]
What's happening in the land of octopi and kilts?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, May 9, 2012 5:50:59am |
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:51:51am |
re: #283 Millicent Islam
...
I think we've reached a NEW LOW at LGF.
Now if you'll excuse me I must go back to writing my porno flick review.
Derp.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 5:51:52am |
re: #282 RogueOne
I'm in Germany currently. All is quiet.
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The Left Wed, May 9, 2012 5:51:57am |
re: #284 Gus
What's happening in the land of octopi and kilts?
Not much, I'm putting off the grocery shopping. How's by you?
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 5:52:19am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 5:52:40am |
re: #282 RogueOne
“They were too soft,” Peskov said, according to a tweet from Duma deputy Ilya Ponomarev. “Protesters who hurt riot police should have their livers smeared on the asphalt.”
This reminds me of something.
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:52:53am |
re: #288 Millicent Islam
Not much, I'm putting off the grocery shopping. How's by you?
Waking up. Finished me coffee. Getting hungry. Eyeballing Twitter. Thinking about the derp.
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The Left Wed, May 9, 2012 5:52:57am |
re: #289 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Isn't that arguably both rapey and stabby at the same time?
//
Definitely hippie.//
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:53:10am |
re: #288 Millicent Islam
Not much, I'm putting off the grocery shopping. How's by you?
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RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 5:53:12am |
re: #287 May Day! May Day!
I'm in Germany currently. All is quiet.
Good. It's better to destroy your liver with german beer than having it smeared on the asphalt sober.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 5:54:25am |
re: #288 Millicent Islam
Not much, I'm putting off the grocery shopping. How's by you?
heh. just Google image "Wall Street Octopus".
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 5:55:22am |
re: #296 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
heh. just Google image "Wall Street Octopus".
Oh noz! I mentioned octopi within the context of OWS! I must be teh anti-Semitic twos!
//
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RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 5:58:52am |
In case anyone missed this:
Appellate court halts enforcement of IL law barring recording of cops
[Link: www.suntimes.com...]
A federal appellate court has ordered Illinois police and prosecutors not to arrest or charge anyone for recording police officers.
The state’s eavesdropping law — which makes it a felony to tape-record a police officer arresting someone — is being challenged in the courts and by state legislators.
City officials had already announced they would not be enforcing the law during the NATO Summit this month, because of the court challenges and because “police will have more important things to focus on than enforcing that law,” said Roderick Drew, a spokesman for the city Law Department.
The appellate court threw back to a lower court a case in which the American Civil Liberties Union sued Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez over enforcement of the law. The appeals court also issued an injunction in the meantime barring enforcement of the ordinance.
“The Illinois eavesdropping statute restricts far more speech than necessary to protect legitimate privacy interests. ... It likely violates the First Amendment’s free-speech and free-press guarantees,” federal Appellate Judge Diane Sykes wrote.
The ACLU filed the suit because it wants to be able to record police making arrests.
Those damn hippies at the ACLU! Record 'em if you got 'em!
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 6:00:11am |
BREAKING NEWS! Palestinian guy arrested for unpaid parking tickets. Charges include terrorism!!
//
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, May 9, 2012 6:00:49am |
re: #297 Gus
Oh noz! I mentioned octopi within the context of OWS! I must be teh anti-Semitic twos!
//
That's okay. I hear they make a pill for that now. I mean, how else did you expect us to earn our Zionist checks?
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RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 6:01:41am |
All these "nice" things people keep saying about Lugar couldn't have helped. I just heard Chuck Todd on MSNBC refer to him as "Richard Nixon's favorite mayor"....
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 6:02:22am |
Image: tumblr_lu3z3em8tk1qzde41o1_1280.jpg
Spineless! Not heartless!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 6:03:22am |
re: #303 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Image: tumblr_lu3z3em8tk1qzde41o1_1280.jpg
Spineless! Not heartless!
Kawaii! @_@
| 305 |
Aye Pod Wed, May 9, 2012 6:07:40am |
Ice's computer just crashed and I'm to off to do some chores - catch you all later :)
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 6:07:56am |
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 6:08:21am |
re: #305 Aye Pod
Ice's computer just crashed and I'm to off to do some chores - catch you all later :)
Bummer. Later guys. I can feel "it" coming already.
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RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 6:08:58am |
MSNBC just flashed a graphic of the 30 states with a gay marriage ban. IN is in the top 20 still! I can't recall the issue being mentioned at all around here. IL, IA, and IN are the only midwest states without a ban.
| 310 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 6:09:14am |
NJD Fan will be estatic this morning. The Devils eliminated the Flyers last night.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, May 9, 2012 6:10:35am |
re: #305 Aye Pod
Ice's computer just crashed and I'm to off to do some chores - catch you all later :)
Kick It (tm).
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, May 9, 2012 6:11:23am |
re: #308 Gus
Bummer. Later guys. I can feel "it" coming already.
There will be blood this morning. Or at least some very strong coffee.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 6:12:49am |
re: #312 thedopefishlives
There will be blood this morning. Or at least some very strong coffee.
Speaking of coffee it is time to go get a cup. Maybe some instant oatmeal too.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 6:18:54am |
Meanwhile a Republican congressman proposes to make Israel into an apartheid state:
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
The only viable solution for the Middle East is a one-state solution: one contiguous Israeli state from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea. There will not and cannot be lasting peace in the Middle East until then.
[...]
Those Palestinians who remain behind in Israel will maintain limited voting power but will be awarded all the economic and civil rights of Israeli citizens. They will be free to raise families, start businesses and live in peace, all of which are impossible under current Arab rule.
Watch as this racist shares Helen Thomas' fate in 3, 2, 1... Gotcha, sucker!/
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 6:22:02am |
re: #314 May Day! May Day!
Meanwhile a Republican proposes to make Israel into an apartheid state:
Watch as this racist shares Helen Thomas' fate in 3, 2, 1... Gotcha, sucker!/
I wonder where else Mr. Walsh would like to establish two tiers of citizenship where the lower tier has limited voting rights.
//
| 316 |
Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 6:23:26am |
re: #314 May Day! May Day!
Meanwhile a Republican proposes to make Israel into an apartheid state:
Watch as this racist shares Helen Thomas' fate in 3, 2, 1... Gotcha, sucker!/
Limited voting power? Logically it would require full voting rights. Not like it's going to happen. Otherwise, Joe Walsh shouldn't be deported for his opinion. //
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 6:23:47am |
re: #315 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
We were speaking of snarls earlier...
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 6:26:40am |
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RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 6:26:59am |
re: #318 Gus
I apologize for not pulling my weight this month....I'll pick it up later though.
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Decatur Deb Wed, May 9, 2012 6:28:35am |
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 6:29:43am |
re: #321 Decatur Deb
It'll work better than National Literacy Month.
The crazies would be all for it if it was renamed "National Read The Book Month".
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lawhawk Wed, May 9, 2012 6:39:15am |
re: #314 May Day! May Day!
Israeli Arabs (aka Palestinians living inside the Green Line) already have full voting rights. They elect members to the Knesset and can utilize all the benefits and rights of Israeli citizenship. They are also exempt from service in the military.
That idiotic proposal does nothing to advance the moribund peace process. It's a huge step back.
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 6:40:52am |
NC's Amendment One carries on a proud Southern tradition of declaring fellow human beings to be 2nd class citizens. avlne.ws/JZf7lM— Steve Silberman (@stevesilberman) May 9, 2012
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 6:45:59am |
re: #310 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
NJD Fan will be estatic this morning. The Devils eliminated the Flyers last night.
Good morning lizards!
All I have to say about that series with Philly... Total Domination!
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, May 9, 2012 6:46:01am |
re: #314 May Day! May Day!
Meanwhile a Republican congressman proposes to make Israel into an apartheid state:
Watch as this racist shares Helen Thomas' fate in 3, 2, 1... Gotcha, sucker!/
Meanwhile an Israeli journalist modestly proposes to (how can I put this?) minimize a particular demographic. He does not say exactly how to go about this.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 6:46:56am |
re: #323 lawhawk
It has several premises correct, i.e. in a single state if you don't wish harmful policies to be voted in by the new (Palestinian) citizens, you pretty much have to make them into 2nd class citizens, and the state ceases to be democratic. But that's why I'm for the 2 state solution and don't think the 1-state is workable.
| 328 |
RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 6:49:31am |
re: #324 Gus
Popehat being typically sarcastic:
Tonight I'm proud of my State and its longstanding traditions, especially the traditions of rebellion, fratricide, and secession.— Popehat (@Popehat) May 9, 2012
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 6:50:28am |
re: #326 Learned Mother of Zion
Wow. Whatever he means, it sounds ominous.
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darthstar Wed, May 9, 2012 6:52:18am |
I'm sure the vote wouldn't have been this close if Obama was also sporting such an awesome mullet.
[Link: xfinity.comcast.net...]
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darthstar Wed, May 9, 2012 6:54:49am |
re: #325 NJDhockeyfan
Good morning lizards!
All I have to say about that series with Philly... Total Domination!
Congratulations and happy 'Gloat in front of your co-workers' Day.
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RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 6:55:42am |
re: #330 darthstar
I saw you posted about Sendak yesterday, did you see the Colbert interviews? I hadn't seen them until yesterday. Hilarious.
| 333 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 6:59:00am |
re: #331 darthstar
Congratulations and happy 'Gloat in front of your co-workers' Day.
My boss is a Kings fan. I hope the Devils meet his team in the finals. The Stanley Cup will look great in Newark.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 6:59:43am |
re: #326 Learned Mother of Zion
Meanwhile an Israeli journalist modestly proposes to (how can I put this?) minimize a particular demographic. He does not say exactly how to go about this.
Not over the top enough to be a proper Swiftian piece. So that leaves it open to whether this is underdone satire (attempting to open discussion), or horribly misplaced opinion left wide open for criticism due to how he goes about singling out a group as "parasitic" and proposing "minimalizing" them.
| 335 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, May 9, 2012 7:00:08am |
And now for something completely different, the Minnesota State Senate approved a modified version of the Vikings stadium bill yesterday, which now goes to committee to get resolved. It is certain that Governor Dayton will sign it, because he has made this a major sticking point of late. The main differences to resolve are that the Senate did not push quite as much of the cost back to the team's owners, but instead opted for a 10% fee on parking and suites and a 6.875% fee on merchandising to cover the reduction in state contribution. Time will tell what form the final bill will take, but it looks like the Vikings are finally able to breathe a sigh of relief.
| 336 |
prairiefire Wed, May 9, 2012 7:02:04am |
re: #332 RogueOne
I saw you posted about Sendak yesterday, did you see the Colbert interviews? I hadn't seen them until yesterday. Hilarious.
I think that Sendak was one of the rare artists who could genuinely understand children. Terri Gross replayed her interviews of him on NPR's Fresh Air. He said he stopped book signings because it terrified the children too much. "They have to hand over their favorite thing to some strange old man to write in!" Mr Sendak's favorite response was from a boy who said "Do not crap up my book!".
| 337 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 7:02:06am |
re: #334 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
That's doubly strange seeing as he is not some marginal figure.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 7:02:58am |
re: #330 darthstar
I'm sure the vote wouldn't have been this close if Obama was also sporting such an awesome mullet.
[Link: xfinity.comcast.net...]
I guess Obama can scratch off WV on his list of states he might win.
| 339 |
Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 7:04:13am |
FACT: Last time North Carolina amended their constitution on marriage it was to ban interracial marriage twitter.com/thinkprogress/… #icymi
— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) May 9, 2012
| 340 |
RogueOne Wed, May 9, 2012 7:04:39am |
re: #336 prairiefire
....Mr Sendak's favorite response was from a boy who said "Do not crap up my book!".
HaHa! I had never really seen any interviews until the Colbert bits. He came across very likable, great sense of humor.
| 341 |
Talking Point Detective Wed, May 9, 2012 7:07:20am |
Richard Lugar speaking sense?:
If Mr. Mourdock is elected, I want him to be a good Senator. But that will require him to revise his stated goal of bringing more partisanship to Washington. He and I share many positions, but his embrace of an unrelenting partisan mindset is irreconcilable with my philosophy of governance and my experience of what brings results for Hoosiers in the Senate. In effect, what he has promised in this campaign is reflexive votes for a rejectionist orthodoxy and rigid opposition to the actions and proposals of the other party. His answer to the inevitable roadblocks he will encounter in Congress is merely to campaign for more Republicans who embrace the same partisan outlook. He has pledged his support to groups whose prime mission is to cleanse the Republican party of those who stray from orthodoxy as they see it.
| 342 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 7:09:44am |
re: #326 Learned Mother of Zion
Found this earlier piece: [Link: www.ynetnews.com...]
Are things that bad in Israel in Haredim v. non-Haredim relations that such bigoted language is employed and "demographic solutions" are talked about, or is this debate limited to some wingnuts and moonbats?
| 343 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, May 9, 2012 7:10:17am |
re: #334 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Not over the top enough to be a proper Swiftian piece. So that leaves it open to whether this is underdone satire (attempting to open discussion), or horribly misplaced opinion left wide open for criticism due to how he goes about singling out a group as "parasitic" and proposing "minimalizing" them.
At the very beginning he dismisses the current policy of integrating this population (of which I am one BTW) into the military and the workplace, and declares that the only "solution" is to reduce their numbers. He then neglects to explain how he would go about this.
| 344 |
Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 7:10:39am |
The never ending stream of moderate Republicans continues...
Tea Party Rep Submits Amendment To Prevent DOJ From Opposing DOMA: Tea Party darling Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-KS) h... bit.ly/LcbTdW— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) May 9, 2012
| 345 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, May 9, 2012 7:13:36am |
re: #342 May Day! May Day!
Found this earlier piece: [Link: www.ynetnews.com...]
Are things that bad in Israel in Haredim v. non-Haredim relations that such bigoted language is employed and "demographic solutions" are talked about, or is this debate limited to some wingnuts and moonbats?
Since this other article you linked to is also by this same Yaron London, I have not seen his suggestions embraced by anyone else. The current conversation is about integrating the Haredi population as it should be. Shame on YNet for giving this bigoted asshole a platform. Can you imagine the uproar if someone suggested a similar policy for Palestinians?
| 346 |
lawhawk Wed, May 9, 2012 7:14:11am |
re: #326 Learned Mother of Zion
Not minimize - shrink.
He thinks that the Haraedi are forced into yeshivas. That's not an accurate reflection of the state of affairs. The way Israeli law is written, they are given an exemption by studying in yeshiva - it's an incentive to allow study.
Integrating the haraedi into military service will accomplish far more than some ambiguous policy, which will somehow shrink that community. Spreading the burdens of national defense across more Israeli citizens.
| 347 |
lawhawk Wed, May 9, 2012 7:15:27am |
re: #327 May Day! May Day!
A 2-state is the only alternative here that has the potential for peace, but we've seen nothing from the Palestinian side to indicate that they're willing to accept the 2-state solution - not when Hamas is openly hostile to even recognizing Israel or its right to exist.
| 348 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 7:17:38am |
re: #345 Learned Mother of Zion
I remember limited uproar when Bibi called Israeli Arabs a demographic threat, but it didn't harm him.
| 349 |
HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 7:19:19am |
re: #344 Gus
The never ending stream of moderate Republicans continues...
[Embedded content]
So much for the BS that the Tea Party is only concerned with fiscal issues huh.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 7:19:29am |
re: #343 Learned Mother of Zion
At the very beginning he dismisses the current policy of integrating this population (of which I am one BTW) into the military and the workplace, and declares that the only "solution" is to reduce their numbers. He then neglects to explain how he would go about this.
Right. If he was going full-bore Swift I expected something about getting them declared kosher and eating them.
Since it didn't go into obvious satire that leaves it much too open to decide what he is trying to say - unless he is simply complaining in a way that comes across as very crasss and unhelpful; e.g. bitching about a group, deriding them, and not offering anything in terms of a solution.
I also do not have much knowledge of the degree and seriousness of the issue in Israel. Though from the articles published now and then on LGF I get the impression that part of it is fanatics on each side not being tolerant and thus constanting increasing the rhetoric or carrying out annoying stunts.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 7:20:32am |
re: #347 lawhawk
A 2-state is the only alternative here that has the potential for peace, but we've seen nothing from the Palestinian side to indicate that they're willing to accept the 2-state solution - not when Hamas is openly hostile to even recognizing Israel or its right to exist.
They have made it perfectly clear they will never recognize Israel's right to exist. However Israel always is the recipient of the blame game on why the peace process is not going forward. Go figure.
| 352 |
Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 7:22:43am |
Wisconsin Hero Injured Jumping In Front Of SUV Of 'Crazy Liberal Nut' Voting Against Scott Walker bit.ly/IXWlgY— Wonkette (@Wonkette) May 9, 2012
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 7:23:57am |
re: #314 May Day! May Day!
Meanwhile a Republican congressman proposes to make Israel into an apartheid state:
Watch as this racist shares Helen Thomas' fate in 3, 2, 1... Gotcha, sucker!/
Walsh is a turd, and this is another reason.
| 354 |
HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 7:24:48am |
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 7:24:54am |
Senior Hamas Official: Palestinians Don’t Come from Palestine
Hamas Minister of Interior and National Security, Fathi Hammad recently said that Palestinians actually came from Egypt, Yemen and Saudi Arabia. In an interview he gave to Al-Hekma TV, an Egyptian network, he discussed the necessity of Arab-Muslim solidarity and the support the Gazans need from the Egyptians to continue with their Jihad efforts. He declared that: “Al-Aqsa and the land of Palestine represent the spearhead for Islam and for the Muslims. Therefore, when we seek the help of our Arab brothers, we are not seeking their help in order to eat, to live, to drink, to dress, or to live a life of luxury. No. When we seek their help, it is in order to continue to wage Jihad”.
In an attempt to gain Egyptian sympathy, he said that all Palestinians have Arab roots, blood ties in various countries on the Arabian Peninsula and Egypt. Hammad said that half of his family was Egyptian and over thirty large families are named Al-Matzri, from Egypt. Half of all Gazans came from Egypt; the other half came from Saudi Arabia and Yemen. He repeated and clarified: “Who are the Palestinians? We have many families named Al-Matzri, whose roots are Egyptian. Egyptians! They came from Alexandria, Cairo, Dumietta, the North, from Aswan and Upper Egypt. We are Egyptians. We are Arabs. We are Muslims. We are a part of you”.
These statements stand in stark contrast to the common perception that the Palestinian Arabs have lived within the borders of the State of Israel from “time immemorial”.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 7:26:10am |
"So many assholes, so little time!" ~ Ambiguous Chameleon.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 7:27:09am |
re: #355 NJDhockeyfan
Yeah, an average Hamas official is pretty historically ignorant.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 7:28:49am |
re: #355 NJDhockeyfan
Senior Hamas Official: Palestinians Don’t Come from Palestine
Same guy probably believes the Protocols of the Elders of Zion are real. I wouldn't take him seriously.
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 7:29:26am |
re: #356 May Day! May Day!
"So many assholes, so little time!" ~ Ambiguous Chameleon.
I tells ya'. Some of these opinion pieces are clearly "sophisticated violence." It has me scared!
//
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 7:31:32am |
re: #358 HappyWarrior
On the other hand, all people are not from the places where they reside, aside for a few African tribes.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 7:32:30am |
re: #360 May Day! May Day!
On the other hand, all people are not from the places where they reside, aside for a few African tribes.
Yep.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 7:33:00am |
Talk about a dangerous situation going on in Libya...
WHENEVER the CIA uncovers a new plot overseas, like al-Qa'ida's latest scheme to blow up civilian aircraft using advanced, hard-to-detect explosives, people breathe a sigh of relief.
But this is a multifront war, and almost by definition, the attack that gets you is the one you didn't see coming.
For the past few months, I've been hearing private warnings about another threat to commercial planes - namely, the spread of shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles from Libya after the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi's regime. A State Department official said in February that Gaddafi had acquired 20,000 of these weapons, and that only 5000 of them had been secured through a $US40 million US program to buy up loose missiles.
"How many are still missing?" asked Andrew Shapiro, assistant secretary of state for political-military affairs, in a speech last February. "The frank answer is we don't know and probably never will."
Here's the scary part: Two former CIA counterterrorism officers told me last week that technicians recently refurbished 800 of these man-portable air-defences systems (known as MANPADS) - some for the African jihadist group Boko Haram that is often seen as an ally of al-Qaeda - for possible use against commercial jets flying into Niger, Chad and perhaps Nigeria.
The former CIA officers have been trying for eight months to alert US intelligence, without success.
...
Yikes!
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Digital Display Wed, May 9, 2012 7:35:31am |
I have been laughing my ass off this morning upon hearing the news that the new underwear bomber was a double agent.. It really messes with everything they do.
Ali the bomb maker: So you want to wear a bomb? huh? How do I know you are not a double agent?
Applicant: Well I'm not... but..
Ali: Take this bomb out back and pull trigger
BOOM!
Ali: You have done a fine job sorting applications today.
Assistant: thank you sir
Ali: Next!
Ali: Are you a double agent? Prove it! Take this bomb out back..etc.etc..
BOOM!
Ali: I see a future HR spot opening up for you..
Assistant: Thank you sir
Ali: Who's next?
Assistant: We have Abou..The venom from Yemen
Ali: Is he a...
Assistant: Double agent Sir? He brought his own bomb..
Ali: I like his spirit..Go out back pull the trigger..
BOOM!
Ali: May I say you have done a fine job today..
Assistant: thank you sir
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lawhawk Wed, May 9, 2012 7:37:09am |
re: #350 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Israeli law grants exemption from military service if you can prove that you're engaging in religious studies. It was amended by the Tal Law (expires 7/2012), but the Israeli Supreme Court ruled that it violated the equal protection provisions under Israel's Basic Law for Human Dignity and Freedom. The law will be allowed to sunset - it can't be reauthorized by the Knesset. The Knesset is considering how to expand service to the community.
The idea of the religious exemption dates back to Ben Gurion's decision to grant the exemption to religious students. But with the demographics shifting (the Orthodox are growing at a faster pace than non Orthodox), it's putting additional pressure on the secular community to achieve the obligations of service. Proponents think that bringing the orthodox into military service will spread the burdens, increase assimilation into Israeli society, and help the orthodox gain valuable skills (presently, the orthodox make up a major portion of welfare costs).
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 7:39:01am |
Meet Keith Judd, the felon who took 40 percent of the vote in the West Virginia primary against Obama: politi.co/Km4Mjv— POLITICO (@politico) May 9, 2012
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lawhawk Wed, May 9, 2012 7:40:19am |
re: #364 HoosierHoops
It's a double edge success. On the one hand, we got valuable intel leading to the airstrike that killed one of the perpetrators of the USS Cole bombing and thwarted the latest attempt at an underwear bombing of an aircraft.
On the other, that agent's utility is done. We've lost that agent's inside access to AQ and its upper echelons.
While AQ may have to reevaluate who everyone is that is joining up with various AQ cells and sows seeds of doubt about any potential recruits, we no longer have a guy at a top level passing along key intel.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 7:42:22am |
re: #368 lawhawk
It's a double edge success. On the one hand, we got valuable intel leading to the airstrike that killed one of the perpetrators of the USS Cole bombing and thwarted the latest attempt at an underwear bombing of an aircraft.
On the other, that agent's utility is done. We've lost that agent's inside access to AQ and its upper echelons.
While AQ may have to reevaluate who everyone is that is joining up with various AQ cells and sows seeds of doubt about any potential recruits, we no longer have a guy at a top level passing along key intel.
Do you think he could have continued on spying if someone didn't leak details of how the underwear bomb was captured?
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, May 9, 2012 7:44:10am |
re: #365 lawhawk
Israeli law grants exemption from military service if you can prove that you're engaging in religious studies. It was amended by the Tal Law (expires 7/2012), but the Israeli Supreme Court ruled that it violated the equal protection provisions under Israel's Basic Law for Human Dignity and Freedom. The law will be allowed to sunset - it can't be reauthorized by the Knesset. The Knesset is considering how to expand service to the community.
The idea of the religious exemption dates back to Ben Gurion's decision to grant the exemption to religious students. But with the demographics shifting (the Orthodox are growing at a faster pace than non Orthodox), it's putting additional pressure on the secular community to achieve the obligations of service. Proponents think that bringing the orthodox into military service will spread the burdens, increase assimilation into Israeli society, and help the orthodox gain valuable skills (presently, the orthodox make up a major portion of welfare costs).
Ben Gurion's original plan was based on the premise that the Haredi population, which at that time was still very small, would dwindle and eventually become extinct, except for a small handful who would be kept around for the entertainment of the tourists. He totally did not anticipate that the population would explode the way that it has.
The Haredim can be integrated into the IDF (my son served in the IDF Nahal Haredi) but then you have people screaming Haredim in the IDF is a National Disaster!1!ty
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lawhawk Wed, May 9, 2012 7:44:25am |
re: #370 NJDhockeyfan
The underwear bomber was the double agent. That's how we got that intel. It put a US agent in charge of the explosives - controlling and thwarting the plot at the time and place of our choosing. His "arrest/capture" meant that he was no longer in AQ.
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, May 9, 2012 7:45:19am |
I was going to post this article to my blog but Typepad is having serious issues now.
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Daniel Ballard Wed, May 9, 2012 7:45:52am |
I'd like to welcome president Obama to my neighborhood. Well George Clooneys house off laurel Canyon. They say he will raise 12 million. NPR ran a story as to one reason he will need the money. Raw stupid partisanship.
When GWB was president 3/4 of democrats polled said GWB had a lot to do with gas prices. Less than half of Republicans agreed. Now with a Democrat in the white house the stats have flipped. Essentially partisans lie to themselves in two or four year cycles.
- Brendan Nyhan, political scientist, Dartmouth College
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 7:46:30am |
re: #372 lawhawk
The underwear bomber was the double agent. That's how we got that intel. It put a US agent in charge of the explosives - controlling and thwarting the plot at the time and place of our choosing. His "arrest/capture" meant that he was no longer in AQ.
Gotcha. I hope we can get another one inside to find out how many more bombs are out there. This is scary stuff.
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Lidane Wed, May 9, 2012 7:50:51am |
Morning Lizards!
I would like North Carolina to reconsider its geographical lifestyle choice. Two Carolinas that close to each other is unnatural.
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iossarian Wed, May 9, 2012 7:51:54am |
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 7:53:04am |
James Carville is worried about November...
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 7:53:07am |
re: #355 NJDhockeyfan
Upon re-reading what he claims, his claim does not even contradict the "from time immemorial" meme, so Algemeiner is mistaken here. He doesn't say, after all, that Palestinians are recent arrivals. Maybe he means they arrived centuries ago from those territories. His mention of Saudi Arabia would be anachronistic, but he probably means just the territory. His claim would still be ignorant, since a lot of Palestinians are descendants of the ancient people of the region anyway.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 7:53:37am |
re: #376 Lidane
Morning Lizards!
I would like North Carolina to reconsider its geographical lifestyle choice. Two Carolinas that close to each other is unnatural.
I believe a Carolina should only be able to live near a Virginia or Georgia. Two Carolinas living side by side just isn't natural and it's unChristian.
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allegro Wed, May 9, 2012 7:55:14am |
re: #374 Daniel Ballard
When GWB was president 3/4 of democrats polled said GWB had a lot to do with gas prices. Less than half of Republicans agreed. Now with a Democrat in the white house the stats have flipped. Essentially partisans lie to themselves in two or four year cycles.
Didn't a couple of wars effectually increase prices? Was it just a coincidence? How is this a lie?
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 7:56:03am |
re: #380 HappyWarrior
I believe a Carolina should only be able to live near a Virginia or Georgia. Two Carolinas living side by side just isn't natural and it's unChristian.
What about the Dakotas?
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iossarian Wed, May 9, 2012 7:56:24am |
re: #379 May Day! May Day!
Upon re-reading what he claims, his claim does not even contradict the "from time immemorial" meme, so Algemeiner is mistaken here. He doesn't say, after all, that Palestinians are recent arrivals. Maybe he means they arrived centuries ago from those territories. His mention of Saudi Arabia would be anachronistic, but he probably means just the territory anyway. His claim would still be ignorant, since a lot of Palestinians are descendants of the ancient people of the region anyway.
No, but if you're the kind of lunatic that likes to undermine Palestinian claims to land so that Israel can go ahead and bulldoze away with impunity, then this kind of quote is just what you latch onto.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, May 9, 2012 7:56:29am |
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 7:56:38am |
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 9, 2012 7:57:42am |
re: #375 NJDhockeyfan
Gotcha. I hope we can get another one inside to find out how many more bombs are out there. This is scary stuff.
I think we might see more of this technique. Use of informants has worked wonders domestically. If a domestic terrorist tries to hook up with Al Qaeda of buy bomb making materials there's a good chance they'll be dealing with an FBI agent. It's a great deterrent. We could do the same thing internationally by sending volunteer martyrs followed by drones to kill whoever helps them. I think it's a brilliant strategy.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, May 9, 2012 7:58:01am |
re: #386 Gus
That's Wyoming.
D'oh! Goes to show how quickly the derp gets flushed from my system, I suppose.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 7:58:25am |
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Lidane Wed, May 9, 2012 7:59:00am |
re: #378 NJDhockeyfan
Those are an awful lot of words for Carville to state the obvious -- it's a long time between now and November and anything can happen.
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Aye Pod Wed, May 9, 2012 8:00:11am |
re: #368 lawhawk
we no longer have a guy at a top level passing along key intel.
How do you know that? How do they know that?
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Daniel Ballard Wed, May 9, 2012 8:00:27am |
re: #381 allegro
If you find the gasoline theory incorrect or inadequate, go back another campaign or two. G.H.W. Bush or Pres. Clinton. Or take a look at other issues that flip perceptions. The full article makes a far better case than my excerpt.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, May 9, 2012 8:00:37am |
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prairiefire Wed, May 9, 2012 8:01:31am |
re: #387 Killgore Trout
The intelligence community is concerned about the threat from surgically implanted bomb capability growing.
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lawhawk Wed, May 9, 2012 8:03:37am |
re: #391 Aye Pod
We know that this guy is no longer there. Could there be others? Possibly. And yes, we sow seeds of doubt that they may have other penetrations. If the organization is as degraded as we think it is, then the numbers of people involved makes penetrating that upper echelon more difficult and puts the AQ on the defensive - to try and weed out our moles.
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jaunte Wed, May 9, 2012 8:03:45am |
re: #394 Lidane
This is apparently how businessmen are trained to do politics.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 8:05:14am |
re: #394 Lidane
Ladies and gents, your 2012 GOP:
And then he'll claim that Obama is the most partisan ever. Kind of like when Cantor whines about partisanship then kisses the Tea Party's ass.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 8:05:17am |
re: #395 prairiefire
The intelligence community is concerned about the threat from surgically implanted bomb capability growing.
You can't tell of someone has wires sticking out of their ass by just frisking them.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 8:09:04am |
re: #383 iossarian
A study after a study has found closeness of Jewish and Palestinian DNA, so arguing that Palestinians are somehow recent arrivals is pretty strange and ahistorical.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 8:12:18am |
re: #376 Lidane
Morning Lizards!
I would like North Carolina to reconsider its geographical lifestyle choice. Two Carolinas that close to each other is unnatural.
But if you dosed North Carolina with Viagra it would promptly invade Knoxville!
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 8:12:47am |
Nazis Celebrate Amendment One: The neo-Nazi group World-Wide White Pride today celebrated the passage of Amendme... bit.ly/LOfh1l— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) May 9, 2012
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iossarian Wed, May 9, 2012 8:12:59am |
re: #394 Lidane
Ladies and gents, your 2012 GOP:
It really is like talking to 4-year-olds. There's no dialogue possible - they want what they want and they're going to thcweam until they get it.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, May 9, 2012 8:13:44am |
re: #403 iossarian
It really is like talking to 4-year-olds. There's no dialogue possible - they want what they want and they're going to thcweam until they get it.
The new GOP anthem:
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AK-47% Wed, May 9, 2012 8:14:03am |
re: #395 prairiefire
The intelligence community is concerned about the threat from surgically implanted bomb capability growing.
Plant them in your man-boobs?
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Lidane Wed, May 9, 2012 8:16:27am |
So not only is the Doughy Pantload a historically illiterate moron, but he's also a liar:
Conservative author Jonah Goldberg drops claim of two Pulitzer nominations
On the dust jacket of his new book, "The Tyranny of Clichés: How Liberals Cheat in the War of Ideas," best-selling conservative author and commentator Jonah Goldberg is described as having "twice been nominated for a Pulitzer Prize."
In fact, as Goldberg acknowledged on Tuesday, he has never been a Pulitzer nominee, but merely one of thousands of entrants.
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 8:17:12am |
re: #407 Lidane
So not only is the Doughy Pantload a historically illiterate moron, but he's also a liar:
Conservative author Jonah Goldberg drops claim of two Pulitzer nominations
More of that National Review exceptionalism.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 8:17:53am |
Toronto Islamic school apologizes for ‘anti-Semitic’ curriculum likening Jews to Nazis
A Toronto Islamic school under police investigation over its “anti-Semitic” curriculum has apologized to the Jewish community and promised to review its teaching materials following an outcry.
The East End Madrassah acknowledged in a press release that passages of its educational texts that referred to “crafty” and “treacherous Jews” and contrasted Islam with “the Jews and the Nazis” were a mistake.
But the apology did not end the controversy. Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty told reporters on Tuesday he was pleased the matter was being probed by police and school board officials. “There is no room for hatred or intolerance in this province,” he said.
Meanwhile, Jewish groups said they were not satisfied with the school’s response, and neither was Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak. “It’s not a matter of reviewing materials,” he said. “This is hatred. This is poison. This type of material has no place in our classrooms, no place in the province.”
...The school is one of three affiliated with the Islamic Shia Ithna Asheri Jamaat, an Islamic centre that once demanded the Ontario government apologize for hosting Salman Rushdie, the British author condemned to death by Iran over his book The Satanic Verses.
More recently, the centre’s resident scholar complained in a sermon posted online that the West was “hyping the whole world up” against Iran over its nuclear program, adding, “this is all because of this fellow sitting in the Middle East, Israel.”
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 8:20:00am |
re: #409 NJDhockeyfan
I hope somebody will go to prison. Canada has laws for that.
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Interesting Times Wed, May 9, 2012 8:21:24am |
re: #407 Lidane
So not only is the Doughy Pantload a historically illiterate moron, but he's also a liar:
Conservative author Jonah Goldberg drops claim of two Pulitzer nominations
BREAKING: Author of preposterous screed,"Liberal Fascism," @JonahNRO tweeted that the Pulitzer Prize Patrol was outside his door.— Shoq Value (@Shoq) May 9, 2012
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 8:21:25am |
"Onoz, leftists call for imprisonment of political opponents!"
Outrage!/
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 8:22:09am |
re: #410 May Day! May Day!
I hope somebody will go to prison. Canada has laws for that.
I find it hard to believe the school didn't know what was in the books and is being taught in their school. A small apology is bullshit.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 8:23:25am |
re: #413 NJDhockeyfan
I see this is not the end of the matter, so, as I said yesterday, the system works (for now).
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iossarian Wed, May 9, 2012 8:24:54am |
re: #413 NJDhockeyfan
I find it hard to believe the school didn't know what was in the books and is being taught in their school. A small apology is bullshit.
Obviously these people need to get onto ALEC to craft them some laws defending the teaching of hateful ideology in schools pronto.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 8:25:42am |
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Obdicut Wed, May 9, 2012 8:27:24am |
re: #387 Killgore Trout
I think we might see more of this technique.
Again, getting people to infiltrate groups is not a new technique or strategy. It's old as the hills, and I'm sure we've been doing it all along. It's challenging, given that we have fewer Arab-American resources to draw upon, but it's a completely standard way of doing intelligence work.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 8:27:31am |
re: #410 May Day! May Day!
I hope somebody will go to prison. Canada has laws for that.
Are they going to start investigating the books of the various private schools in the region as well? I'd be curious what sort of bad analogies and terminology would turn up there.
(Not an MBF claim. What was done here was bad. I am curious to see what else might be flying under the radar that is being ignored since it has no Islamic connections.)
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 8:27:32am |
re: #407 Lidane
So not only is the Doughy Pantload a historically illiterate moron, but he's also a liar:
Conservative author Jonah Goldberg drops claim of two Pulitzer nominations
Is every right wing book the exact same? I get it guys, liberals bad, conservatives saints on earth.
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iossarian Wed, May 9, 2012 8:28:12am |
re: #420 HappyWarrior
Is every right wing book the exact same? I get it guys, liberals bad, conservatives saints on earth.
TEN MORE REASONS TO FEEL ANGRY AND FEARFUL
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 8:28:59am |
re: #419 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Are they going to start investigating the books of the various private schools in the region as well? I'd be curious what sort of bad analogies and terminology would turn up there.
(Not an MBF claim. What was done here was bad. I am curious to see what else might be flying under the radar that is being ignored since it has no Islamic connections.)
No problem with a closer look at fundamentalists of any stripe.
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 8:29:40am |
re: #420 HappyWarrior
Is every right wing book the exact same? I get it guys, liberals bad, conservatives saints on earth.
It's the Liberals are Bad Book-Industrial-Complex.
//
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 8:29:50am |
re: #418 Obdicut
Again, getting people to infiltrate groups is not a new technique or strategy. It's old as the hills, and I'm sure we've been doing it all along. It's challenging, given that we have fewer Arab-American resources to draw upon, but it's a completely standard way of doing intelligence work.
You don't say, Mr. Hiss!
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 8:30:08am |
re: #416 iossarian
Obviously these people need to get onto ALEC to craft them some laws defending the teaching of hateful ideology in schools pronto.
What does Alec Baldwin have to do with this?
//
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 9, 2012 8:30:10am |
re: #419 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Are they going to start investigating the books of the various private schools in the region as well? I'd be curious what sort of bad analogies and terminology would turn up there.
(Not an MBF claim. What was done here was bad. I am curious to see what else might be flying under the radar that is being ignored since it has no Islamic connections.)
I think this is more about academic standards than free speech issue. There are probably regulations and standards for teaching materials in accredited private schools. The same rules would apply to everybody.
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Kragar Wed, May 9, 2012 8:31:37am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 8:31:38am |
re: #426 Killgore Trout
I think this is more about academic standards than free speech issue. There are probably regulations and standards for teaching materials in accredited private schools. The same rules would apply to everybody.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 8:32:05am |
re: #423 Gus
It's the Liberals are Bad Book-Industrial-Complex.
//
Heh no joke. I was on my kindle last week looking for a good current affairs book. Nearly all the books were Obama is bad in some way or form.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 8:32:27am |
re: #427 Kragar
I didn't know about this masterpiece b4 you linked to it a few days ago.
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Obdicut Wed, May 9, 2012 8:32:42am |
re: #428 May Day! May Day!
I believe a gentleman named Hitchens once gave a great speech about governmental censorship in regards to these hate speech laws.
Heh.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 8:32:52am |
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 8:33:58am |
re: #433 Millicent Islam
Conservative author Jonah Goldberg drops claim of two Pulitzer nominations
[Embedded content]
Doughy pantload drop doughy claim.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 8:34:12am |
re: #432 HappyWarrior
Barack Obama is President. The end.
They were like that for a looong time. Remember Malkin's Unhinged?
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 9, 2012 8:34:19am |
re: #428 May Day! May Day!
Yes, I know Canada has hate speech laws.
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Kragar Wed, May 9, 2012 8:34:23am |
re: #430 May Day! May Day!
I didn't know about this masterpiece b4 you linked to it a few days ago.
How is that possible?
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 8:35:29am |
re: #436 May Day! May Day!
They were like that for a looong time. Remember Malkin's Unhinged?
No, I avoid that part of the bookstore like the plague. If I wanted to see right wingers having a ragegasm, I'd go to FoxNation or Free Republic.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 8:35:36am |
re: #428 May Day! May Day!
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
The Criminal Code of Canada
Sections 318, 319, and 320 of the Code forbid hate propaganda.[3] "Hate propaganda" means "any writing, sign or visible representation that advocates or promotes genocide or the communication of which by any person would constitute an offence under section 319." Section 318 prescribes imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years for anyone who advocates genocide. The Code defines genocide as the destruction of an "identifiable group." The Code defines an "identifiable group" as "any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation." Section 319 prescribes penalties from a fine to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years for anyone who incites hatred against any identifiable group. Section 320 allows a judge to confiscate publications which appear to be hate propaganda. Under section 319, an accused is not guilty: (a) if he establishes that the statements communicated were true; (b) if, in good faith, the person expressed or attempted to establish by an argument an opinion on a religious subject or an opinion based on a belief in a religious text; (c) if the statements were relevant to any subject of public interest, the discussion of which was for the public benefit, and if on reasonable grounds he believed them to be true; or (d) if, in good faith, he intended to point out, for the purpose of removal, matters producing or tending to produce feelings of hatred toward an identifiable group in Canada.
This school has some splainin' to do besides a half-asses apology.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 8:37:25am |
re: #437 Killgore Trout
Yes, I know Canada has hate speech laws.
Yes, and that's why if there was hate speech in this instance, it falls under the criminal hate speech category, not only administrative correct standards category.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 8:38:43am |
re: #438 Kragar
I suppose this music is from the end titles, and I saw TA in a poor translated Russian version back then.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 8:40:03am |
re: #428 May Day! May Day!
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
I suspect someone could bust a Catholic private school in Quebec with very little effort based on these laws.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 8:41:28am |
re: #443 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
I suspect someone could bust a Catholic private school in Quebec with very little effort based on these laws.
How so? I know nothing about Catholic schools.
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Kragar Wed, May 9, 2012 8:41:54am |
re: #442 May Day! May Day!
I suppose this music is from the end titles, and I saw TA in a poor translated Russian version back then.
Yeah, it was closing credit music.
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Kragar Wed, May 9, 2012 8:49:12am |
Fischer 'Apologizes' to Romney, Gives Him Credit for Grenell's Resignation
apparently Fischer has since realized that demanding concessions from politicians and then mocking those politicians when then make the very concessions that you demanded might be somewhat hypocritical ... and so yesterday Fischer offered an amazingly back-handed "apology" to Romney, saying that even though the entire fiasco demonstrated Romney's weakness and utter lack of core values, he still deserves credit for having done the right thing in letting Grenell go:
I want to issue what amounts to sort of an apology to Gov. Romney. I was pretty hard on him on Friday and my point on Friday was his waffling when conservatives raised a concern about Richard Grenell - he went silent, he put a bag over Richard Grenell's head, let him fall on his sword, only said supportive things to Richard Grenell after he had resigned - it was an indication of the challenges that we have with Gov. Romney, that he does not seem to have a core set of principles, a core set of values by which he guides himself. And the fact that he could be so - I used the word intimidated or coerced or whatever - could be so influenced by a comparatively small number of conservatives ... and so I think it was illustrative of Gov. Romney's weaknesses and things that we've got to be concerned about.
But, at the end of the day, I didn't make enough of the fact that he did the right thing here. Now, regardless of why he did it - most likely, it was for reasons that are politically expedient - but he did the right thing. He allowed this resignation to take place, probably had some hand in bringing it about; I cannot believe that they were entirely passive in that. But here's the point: at the end of the day, Richard Grenell had stepped down, this homosexual activist, this crusader for gay marriage had stepped down and Romney could have taken a different tack. So I want to give Romney credit for doing that. Now, you'd like to know that he did it on the grounds of principle and conviction and all that - I believe that would kind of be a bridge too far - but nevertheless, Gov. Romney did the thing that he should have done.
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Obdicut Wed, May 9, 2012 8:49:33am |
re: #443 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
I suspect someone could bust a Catholic private school in Quebec with very little effort based on these laws.
You mean, because of anti-gay stuff, or what?
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 8:49:46am |
House Kills Measure to Fully Fund Mortgage Fraud Task Force
George Zornick on May 9, 2012 - 11:17 AM ET
With the financial sector sure to summon massive amounts of money and resources to battle any criminal or civil prosecutions over its role in the 2008 crisis, a key is how much resources authorities will have at their disposal to battle back.
When New York attorney general Eric Schneiderman appeared before the Congressional Progressive Caucus in late April, he asked the members to help him obtain funding for the Residential Mortgage-Backed Securities working group, which he co-chairs. “If you want to help me badger everybody, that’s good,” he said. “I’m a good badger by myself but I know there are some experts in this room.”...
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 9, 2012 8:49:55am |
re: #440 NJDhockeyfan
Section 319 prescribes penalties from a fine to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years for anyone who incites hatred against any identifiable group.
Damn, that's insane.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 8:51:09am |
re: #449 Killgore Trout
Damn, that's insane.
"The Code defines an "identifiable group" as "any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.""
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 8:51:19am |
re: #446 Kragar
Fischer 'Apologizes' to Romney, Gives Him Credit for Grenell's Resignation
Fischer will be taking Mitt's allowance next and then will say he gave it up too easily but that's okay.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 8:52:14am |
re: #447 Obdicut
You mean, because of anti-gay stuff, or what?
I think that would be the most likely path. Though that does not exclude there being materials slandering other perceived foes. Anti-Semetic for instance.
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Obdicut Wed, May 9, 2012 8:54:51am |
re: #452 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
There's not a lot of antisemitism taught in modern Catholic schools, no.
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Obdicut Wed, May 9, 2012 8:55:30am |
re: #449 Killgore Trout
You should listen to the speech Hitchens gave about the laws.
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Varek Raith Wed, May 9, 2012 8:56:34am |
The TP ousts Lugar for this putz? Lol.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 8:56:49am |
re: #454 Obdicut
You should listen to the speech Hitchens gave about the laws.
Hitchens was anti-Israel. Wouldn't want to associate with that hateful bigot. ///
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 9, 2012 8:57:23am |
Turkey ready to indict flotilla soldiers
Ankara's State Prosecution still waiting for Israel to send names of soldiers who took part in Marmara raid. 'When we receive the info, we'll issue indictments,' says justice minister
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Kragar Wed, May 9, 2012 8:58:45am |
Orangutans at Miami zoo use iPads to communicate
Jacobs said she began letting the orangutans use iPads last summer, based on the suggestion of someone who had used the devices with dolphins. The software was originally designed for humans with autism and the screen displays pictures of various objects. A trainer then names one of the objects, and the ape presses the corresponding button.
The devices have been a great addition to the enrichment programs Jungle Island already does with the orangutans, Jacobs said. Keepers have long used sign language to communicate with them. Using their hands, the orangutans can respond to simple questions, identify objects and express their wants or needs. The apes can also identify body parts, helping the trainers care for them and even give them shots.
"We're able to really monitor their health on a daily basis," Jacobs said of the need for communication with the orangutans. "We can do daily checks. If somebody's not feeling well, we know it immediately."
While Jacobs and other trainers have developed strong relationships with the orangutans, the iPad and other touchscreen computers offer an opportunity for them to communicate with people not trained in their sign language.
"It would just be such a wonderful bridge to have," Jacobs said. "So that other people could really appreciate them."
Orangutans are extremely intelligent but limited by their physical inability to talk, she said.
"They are sort of trapped in those bodies," Jacobs said. "They have the intelligence that they need to communicate, but they don't have the right equipment, because they don't have voice boxes or vocal cords. So this gives them a way to let us know what they know, what they are capable of, what they would like to have."
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Obdicut Wed, May 9, 2012 8:59:02am |
re: #458 Gus
Worlds largest ball of twine slightly larger today.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 8:59:13am |
March 19, 2012, New Jersey Devils vs New York Rangers.
I wonder if the Rangers win tonight we might see a repeat of this when they play the Devils.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 9:00:04am |
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 9:01:19am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 9, 2012 9:03:31am |
Morning al!
Hands are hurting, so I don't know how much I'll be on line today.
How are you?
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darthstar Wed, May 9, 2012 9:03:38am |
NC - where you can marry your cousin...just not your gay cousin. #lolgop #tcot #tlot— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) May 9, 2012
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darthstar Wed, May 9, 2012 9:04:42am |
re: #332 RogueOne
I saw you posted about Sendak yesterday, did you see the Colbert interviews? I hadn't seen them until yesterday. Hilarious.
No, I missed them...will look them up for sure.
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The Left Wed, May 9, 2012 9:05:16am |
re: #464 ggt
Morning al!
Hands are hurting, so I don't know how much I'll be on line today.
How are you?
Just back from grocery shopping, in the middle of making dinner. (chili) What's wrong with your hands?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 9, 2012 9:05:53am |
re: #453 Obdicut
There's not a lot of antisemitism taught in modern Catholic schools, no.
My son's elementary workbook from "Sunday School", actually grouped the Jews with the Catholics as G-d's Chosen. Jews = First Covenenant Catholics = 2nd.
Everyone else is eligible
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 9:06:30am |
re: #462 HappyWarrior
They're awesome animals.
They are now prepared to start conspiring with the dolphins against us!
O_O
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 9, 2012 9:07:13am |
re: #467 Millicent Islam
Just back from grocery shopping, in the middle of making dinner. (chili) What's wrong with your hands?
old age
thanks for askin'!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, May 9, 2012 9:08:20am |
so a gig in NC's Research Triangle just became a lot harder sell for any tech geek who actually cares about equality
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Varek Raith Wed, May 9, 2012 9:08:33am |
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 9:08:45am |
re: #453 Obdicut
There's not a lot of antisemitism taught in modern Catholic schools, no.
Well, my opinion is partially shaped by friends getting elementary-junior high education in a Catholic school compared to the secular school where I was living at the time in the 70s. A few bits were still working their way into the teaching back then, at least there.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 9:10:01am |
re: #467 Millicent Islam
Just back from grocery shopping, in the middle of making dinner. (chili) What's wrong with your hands?
So, how much oatmeal goes into Scottish chili? And does that substitute for the beans?
;)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, May 9, 2012 9:10:59am |
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 9:11:11am |
re: #474 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
So, how much oatmeal goes into Scottish chili? And does that substitute for the beans?
;)
I heard they put octopi in Scottish oatmeal.
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darthstar Wed, May 9, 2012 9:11:43am |
re: #472 Varek Raith
Hey...did you see the pic of the little girl I posted the other day...I could swear she was related to you.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 9:11:48am |
VIDEO: Accused bridge bomb plot suspect caught on camera talking violence in 'Occupy' documentary
CLEVELAND - We are getting our first look inside the Occupy Cleveland movement. NewsChannel5 exclusively obtained video of the recording by an independent documentary producer. One of the central characters in the video is Connor Stevens. He identifies himself in the video as an Occupy Cleveland participant.
In the video, Stevens is recorded as saying, "It's been really good, there's been a lot of stress and frustration but all around it's been a really good experience. Within the first day there was so much information that my mind was boggled. My favorite part is meeting people walking down the street, average people, talking to them, hearing about how they're affected by the economy, by the justice system, things like that..."
But now, the justice system has caught up with Stevens. He's at the center of what the FBI called a national security threat. He's one of the five people charged with attempting to blow up local the Route 82 bridge in last week over the Cuyahoga Valley National Park between Brecksville and Sagamore Hills.
..."We were saying two years before that we would have been kicking out windows and stuff like that. Back in like 2008, I was at that state of mind and now I'm understanding that we're in it for the long haul and those kind of tactics just don't cut it. And it's actually harder to be non-violent than it is to do stuff like that," Stevens said.
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Kragar Wed, May 9, 2012 9:12:20am |
STUDY: Counseling And Waiting Periods Before Abortion Procedures Does Not Change Women’s Decisions
Researchers gathered data from pre-counseling needs assessment forms and clinical intake forms of roughly 5,000 women at one abortion clinic in 2008. State laws adding waiting periods and mandating information that doctors must tell their patients assume that women need time and counseling to make their decisions, but the study’s data show that these assumptions are wrong:
In nearly nine out of 10 cases, women expressed high confidence in their abortion decision before they received any counseling; these women would likely not benefit from additional mandated counseling or delay. Furthermore, one-size-fits all policies may not address the complex needs of women who experience ambivalence, have negative beliefs about abortion, feel pressured to have an abortion, have spiritual concerns about abortion or have low levels of social support.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 9:12:47am |
re: #476 Gus
I heard they put octopi in Scottish oatmeal.
Shh! Do NOT give them ideas for a new version of sea haggis!
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darthstar Wed, May 9, 2012 9:12:51am |
re: #477 darthstar
Hey...did you see the pic of the little girl I posted the other day...I could swear she was related to you.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Varek Raith Wed, May 9, 2012 9:13:27am |
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Obdicut Wed, May 9, 2012 9:13:57am |
re: #465 darthstar
There's really nothing much wrong with marrying your cousin, genetically speaking.
I have no cousins.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, May 9, 2012 9:14:13am |
re: #420 HappyWarrior
Is every right wing book the exact same? I get it guys, liberals bad, conservatives saints on earth.
CANNIBORTION: How The Liberal Hordes Of Satan Will Abort Your Children and Dine On Your Mothers
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darthstar Wed, May 9, 2012 9:15:22am |
re: #483 Obdicut
There's really nothing much wrong with marrying your cousin, genetically speaking.
I have no cousins.
The chances of passing on bad genetic traits goes down significantly in gay marriages, however.
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simoom Wed, May 9, 2012 9:15:49am |
re: #205 Gus
Mary Frances Forrester, right, the wife of the late N.C. State Senator James Forrester, embraces Tami Fitzgerald from Vote For Marriage NC as they celebrate the passage of Amendment One during an election night party at the N. Raleigh Hilton on Tuesday May 8, 2012. Senator Forrester was the person who proposed Amendment One before his death.
The centerpiece of that event:
[Link: www.newsobserver.com...]
About 250 amendment supporters crowded a ballroom at the Hilton North Raleigh for the celebration that was part standard-issue campaign victory party and part wedding reception.
There was a cash bar, and music that included love songs. The centerpiece was a seven-tier white wedding cake, capped by a plastic heterosexual couple embracing.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 9, 2012 9:16:26am |
re: #479 Kragar
STUDY: Counseling And Waiting Periods Before Abortion Procedures Does Not Change Women’s Decisions
on my fb
because we have such an excess of tax dollars, politicians need something to do?
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iossarian Wed, May 9, 2012 9:16:47am |
re: #487 simoom
The centerpiece of that event:
[Link: www.newsobserver.com...]
I wonder if the cake decoration couple was mixed-race.
Fucking bigots.
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Shropshire_Slasher Wed, May 9, 2012 9:17:08am |
I missed this yesterday and didn't pick up on it till I actually cracked open a real newspaper.
A retired state trooper from Saratoga County whose image in a Norman Rockwell painting became a legacy for police across the nation, died Sunday at 83.
Read more: [Link: www.timesunion.com...]
I have always enjoys Norman Rockwell paintings.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 9:17:13am |
re: #488 ggt
on my fb
because we have such an excess of tax dollars, politicians need something to do?
The mandatory drug test with the waiting period for the results is the next step.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 9, 2012 9:18:24am |
re: #491 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
The mandatory drug test with the waiting period for the results is the next step.
Drug testing companies are lobbying?
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 9:19:26am |
re: #483 Obdicut
There's really nothing much wrong with marrying your cousin, genetically speaking.
I have no cousins.
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allegro Wed, May 9, 2012 9:20:31am |
re: #488 ggt
on my fb
because we have such an excess of tax dollars, politicians need something to do?
Indeed. Truly from the Department of Duh.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, May 9, 2012 9:22:20am |
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Varek Raith Wed, May 9, 2012 9:22:51am |
re: #496 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]
oh jesus, don't go there
I won't anymore, sheesh that was radioactive!
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, May 9, 2012 9:23:09am |
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wrenchwench Wed, May 9, 2012 9:25:35am |
re: #483 Obdicut
There's really nothing much wrong with marrying your cousin, genetically speaking.
I have no cousins.
No sisters and no cousins! And I have 3 sisters, 30 cousins, and a willingness to share! They're all on my Facebook, I'll go fetch a few of them...
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Shropshire_Slasher Wed, May 9, 2012 9:26:48am |
Nothin like lovin than your second cousin!
/
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 9, 2012 9:27:06am |
re: #483 Obdicut
There's really nothing much wrong with marrying your cousin, genetically speaking.
I have no cousins.
I watched Deliverance for the first time a couple of weeks ago.
I think there are isolated areas of the world where, there is indeed, genetic reasons for not marrying your cousin.
:0
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Obdicut Wed, May 9, 2012 9:27:09am |
re: #490 Tommy's cone of shame
A more progressive dude than many realize, too. He's too often held up as '50s kitsch, but he was subversive in a lot of ways.
Image: norman_rockwell-school_fight.jpg
And I love his Rosies:
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 9, 2012 9:28:28am |
re: #501 ggt
I watched Deliverance for the first time a couple of weeks ago.
I think there are isolated areas of the world where, there is indeed, genetic reasons for not marrying your cousin.
:0
Paddle faster
I hear banjo music!
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Kronocide Wed, May 9, 2012 9:28:45am |
Kate Beckinsale went from super hottie to uber hottie.
Funny is sexy.
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Kragar Wed, May 9, 2012 9:29:53am |
re: #504 Kronocide
Kate Beckinsale went from super hottie to uber hottie.
Funny is sexy.
I will make the sacrifice of overseeing Kate's vagina.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 9, 2012 9:31:16am |
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Shropshire_Slasher Wed, May 9, 2012 9:32:44am |
re: #502 Obdicut
Heh, you made me smile. Rosie is my daughters favorite, she ran for school council and won using that image.
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darthstar Wed, May 9, 2012 9:32:44am |
re: #506 darthstar
...
What the hell? Let me try this tweet again...
Oh well...the text reads that Obama has a lead over Romney in likeability, but so do menstrual cramps.
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Kragar Wed, May 9, 2012 9:34:12am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, May 9, 2012 9:34:20am |
re: #501 ggt
I watched Deliverance for the first time a couple of weeks ago.
I think there are isolated areas of the world where, there is indeed, genetic reasons for not marrying your cousin.
:0
If you liked Deliverance, check out Zardoz! Same director! Only instead of rednecks, it's psychic immortals flying giant stone heads that spit guns at barbarians
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 9:35:09am |
re: #469 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
They are now prepared to start conspiring with the dolphins against us!
O_O
I want to get a tattoo of a dolphin with an orangutan. My two favorite animals. Plus the land meets sea thing.
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 9:35:40am |
The libertarians' guide :) twitpic.com/9j61t0
— Brasilmagic (@Brasilmagic) May 9, 2012
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Gus Wed, May 9, 2012 9:37:03am |
re: #513 HappyWarrior
I want to get a tattoo of a dolphin with an orangutan. My two favorite animals. Plus the land meets sea thing.
Baleen whale!
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Amory Blaine Wed, May 9, 2012 9:37:38am |
re: #483 Obdicut
There's really nothing much wrong with marrying your cousin, genetically speaking.
I have no cousins.
{jaw harp flick}
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, May 9, 2012 9:37:47am |
Was Obama photoshopped into famous bin Laden sit room photo? Anomalies in size of his head, gaze. ow.ly/aNMDA— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) May 9, 2012
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Obdicut Wed, May 9, 2012 9:37:48am |
re: #514 Gus
None of her supermen have the slightest sense of humor, either, except of the "Haha, I'm awesome" kind.
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Kragar Wed, May 9, 2012 9:38:20am |
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 9:38:27am |
re: #513 HappyWarrior
I want to get a tattoo of a dolphin with an orangutan. My two favorite animals. Plus the land meets sea thing.
An orang riding an orca in pursuit of something... the mythical banana seal?
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 9:39:03am |
re: #509 darthstar
What the hell? Let me try this tweet again...
Oh well...the text reads that Obama has a lead over Romney in likeability, but so do menstrual cramps.
Likability is fine but it doesn't help garner too many votes. Romney has a lead over Obama 45.5% vs 37.2% with Independents.
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Obdicut Wed, May 9, 2012 9:40:20am |
re: #517 Learned Mother of Zion
Wow, that's some serious straw-clutching.
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bratwurst Wed, May 9, 2012 9:40:54am |
More wingnuts focused like a LASER on jobs and the economy:
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 9:42:11am |
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 9:42:56am |
Nine men jailed in Britain for grooming underage girls for sex using drugs, alcohol
LONDON — A group of nine men of Pakistani and Afghan origin were sentenced to jail Thursday for grooming white British schoolgirls for sex, using drink and drugs.
The men, aged between 22 and 59, were convicted Wednesday of conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children under the age of 16, and other offences.
Passing sentence at Liverpool Crown Court in northwest England, judge Gerald Clifton gave them prison terms ranging from four to 19 years.
Some of the girls were as young as 13 at the time.
“All of you treated them as though they were worthless and beyond any respect,” Clifton told the defendants.
“One of the factors leading to that was the fact that they were not part of your community or religion.
“Some of you, when arrested, said it was triggered by race.
“That is nonsense. What triggered this prosecution was your lust and greed.”
The abuse took place in the market town of Rochdale outside Manchester in northwest England.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 9:42:56am |
Really, really? Next they'll claim Obama only ordered the mission in fear of a coup. Oh, wait......
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, May 9, 2012 9:43:24am |
re: #522 Obdicut
Wow, that's some serious straw-clutching.
I remember the uproar when some Yiddish magazine that nobody ever heard of Photoshopped Hillary out of the picture.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 9:44:22am |
re: #512 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]
If you liked Deliverance, check out Zardoz! Same director! Only instead of rednecks, it's psychic immortals flying giant stone heads that spit guns at barbarians
With Boorman in that time period getting out of the city was going into a dangerous place*. Hmm, if you include _Point Blank_ even in the city wasn't that safe.
Rednecks and barbarians and druids, oh my!
Plus the chance of getting stranded on Toshirō Mifune's island.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 9:44:35am |
re: #527 Learned Mother of Zion
Reminds me of CAIR adding a veil to a photo.
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dragonfire1981 Wed, May 9, 2012 9:44:40am |
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The Left Wed, May 9, 2012 9:45:29am |
re: #530 dragonfire1981
Incredible:
Prisoner gets 40 percent of vote in West Virginia because people don't like Obama
I was reading about that earlier. I guess Obama isn't polling well with the meth head demographic.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 9:45:59am |
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darthstar Wed, May 9, 2012 9:46:01am |
re: #530 dragonfire1981
Incredible:
Prisoner gets 40 percent of vote in West Virginia because people don't like Obama
Nah...it was his rockin' mullet.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 9:46:04am |
re: #530 dragonfire1981
Incredible:
Prisoner gets 40 percent of vote in West Virginia because people don't like Obama
Way to prove people stereotyping West Virginia right, West Virginia.
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lawhawk Wed, May 9, 2012 9:51:09am |
re: #530 dragonfire1981
It isn't as though the felon carried the state; it went for Obama with 59% of the vote - in a state that is most affected should the Administration reduce American reliance on coal (the state's big job sector).
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bratwurst Wed, May 9, 2012 9:56:44am |
re: #530 dragonfire1981
Incredible:
Prisoner gets 40 percent of vote in West Virginia because people don't like Obama
Seems like there are more than a few people on the mouth-breathing edge of the internets making a big deal out of this. The SHOCKING truth is that Obama may not have a good chance to take WV in November!
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The Left Wed, May 9, 2012 10:03:28am |
re: #536 bratwurst
Seems like there are more than a few people on the mouth-breathing edge of the internets making a big deal out of this. The SHOCKING truth is that Obama may not have a good chance to take WV in November!
He didn't take it in 2008, did he? I thought he didn't.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 10:05:59am |
re: #537 Millicent Islam
He didn't take it in 2008, did he? I thought he didn't.
No Democrat has won it since Clinton in 1996. It's become in presidential elections a solid Republican state which is amazing considering it went for Dukakis, I think in large part to cultural/environmental issues that have done this.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 10:06:32am |
re: #535 lawhawk
It isn't as though the felon carried the state; it went for Obama with 59% of the vote - in a state that is most affected should the Administration reduce American reliance on coal (the state's big job sector).
West Virginians don't like the possibility of losing their job because the closing of a lot of coal mines. Obama can kiss this state goodbye in November.
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jaunte Wed, May 9, 2012 10:08:53am |
re: #539 NJDhockeyfan
They should be blaming all the cheap natural gas from shale for their job losses. That's what's replacing coal right now, because it's cheaper.
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Daniel Ballard Wed, May 9, 2012 10:11:11am |
Page Authors-
Ever get a comment so good you wished you could "promote" it to the main part of the Page? Well Researchok wrote a comment so good that I copied it up into the main page.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 10:11:43am |
re: #540 jaunte
They should be blaming all the cheap natural gas from shale for their job losses. That's what's replacing coal right now, because it's cheaper.
Easier to blame Obama. Anyhow, I think West Virginians are anxious because for many of these mining families, it's something that goes back generations. But I think the transition will be more beneficial than harmful in the long run given that with less reliance on mines, people will live longer and make more money.
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Obdicut Wed, May 9, 2012 10:13:28am |
re: #539 NJDhockeyfan
Obama already kissed it goodbye. Unfortunately, there's a hell of a lot of racism in West Virginia. He was unpopular there before having anything to do with coal.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 10:13:57am |
re: #540 jaunte
They should be blaming all the cheap natural gas from shale for their job losses. That's what's replacing coal right now, because it's cheaper.
Cheap natural gas? This is what they are reading in their newspapers...
Power plant closures to cost US towns jobs, taxes
For more than 90 years, the coal-fired power plant in Glen Lyn, Va., has been churning out electricity and contributing to local prosperity. Of late, it has generated nearly a quarter of the revenue for the $1 million budget of the town.
Yet when the plant ultimately shuts down to comply with new federal air pollution regulations by the end of 2014, says Town Manager Howard Spencer, so too might the community of 200.
"If the town lost all of that revenue," he says, "we would struggle to even continue to be incorporated."
An Associated Press analysis has found that more than 32 mostly coal-fired power plants in a dozen states will be forced to close because of the new, more stringent regulations. Another 36 plants are at risk of closing.
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wrenchwench Wed, May 9, 2012 10:16:10am |
re: #539 NJDhockeyfan
West Virginians don't like the possibility of losing their job because the closing of a lot of coal mines. Obama can kiss this state goodbye in November.
They didn't vote for this guy
....because they thought he'd save jobs.
[...]
Keith Russell Judd is in a federal prison in Texas after making a threat at the University of New Mexico in 1999. It is unclear what type of threat Judd made, but he has made multiple appeals and frivolous lawsuits in the intervening time — so many that judges have ruled that he has to pay fees before he can file any more lawsuits. Some of these lawsuits include references to the Secret Service.
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Varek Raith Wed, May 9, 2012 10:16:17am |
re: #544 NJDhockeyfan
Cheap natural gas? This is what they are reading in their newspapers...
Mercury is good for you!
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 10:16:40am |
re: #543 Obdicut
Obama already kissed it goodbye. Unfortunately, there's a hell of a lot of racism in West Virginia. He was unpopular there before having anything to do with coal.
It was one of the few states he did worse than Gore/Kerry in. Don't forget about gun politics and Wayne LaPierre's effort to mislead and scare people about Obama and guns.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 10:17:33am |
re: #544 NJDhockeyfan
Cheap natural gas? This is what they are reading in their newspapers...
What, no coverage of the positive effects of having cleaner air downwind from this plant? What happened to the journalistic trend of equal coverage of both sides? Oh wait, this is because the EVIL government is out to squash the little guy!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 9, 2012 10:17:48am |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, May 9, 2012 10:21:29am |
re: #546 Varek Raith
Mercury is good for you!
If Mercury is harmful, why did they name a planet after it? Checkmate, atheists.
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jaunte Wed, May 9, 2012 10:27:08am |
re: #544 NJDhockeyfan
The biggest threat to continued use of coal-fired generation, Herholdt said, was the low prices of natural gas. “This is the kind of perfect-storm – we have these issues, abundant shale gas and unusually mild winter keeping natural gas prices low, natural gas well-head prices predicted to average $3 an MCF in 2012, $4 in 2013,” Herhodlt said. “As a result, electric utilities are looking to natural gas as a potential replacement for emission non-compliant, older coal-fired plants.”
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jaunte Wed, May 9, 2012 10:29:21am |
Natural gas plants are also almost 50% more efficient in converting energy into electricity. It's tough for coal to beat that.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 9, 2012 10:32:20am |
re: #552 jaunte
Natural gas plants are also almost 50% more efficient in converting energy into electricity. It's tough for coal to beat that.
Coal just needs a makeover and a good ad campaign!
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jaunte Wed, May 9, 2012 10:33:49am |
It's a trend...
Coal-to-gas switching to continue: Energy Department
Generation of electricity from coal is expected to slide again in 2012 as generation from natural gas continues to rise, according to the Short Term Energy Outlook released by the U.S. Energy Information Administration on April 10.
Generation from coal declines a steep 9.9 percent from 2011 in 2012 in the EIA's forecast, continuing a decline that brings coal-fired generation down nearly 23 percent from its peak in 2007.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 9, 2012 10:34:28am |
re: #552 jaunte
Natural gas plants are also almost 50% more efficient in converting energy into electricity. It's tough for coal to beat that.
That's awesome and I support that. The people who work in the coal mines might not understand that after all their jobs are gone.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 10:35:19am |
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
OT but Obama could be declaring support for marriage equality today. Could be a historical moment.
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Varek Raith Wed, May 9, 2012 10:35:19am |
re: #555 NJDhockeyfan
That's awesome and I support that. The people who work in the coal mines might not understand that after all their jobs are gone.
The invisible hand of the free market.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 9, 2012 10:43:39am |
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Isn't this the same guy who took credit for the auto industry's recovery. Projection, thy name is Romney.
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