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1 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:00:41pm

There is a great version of his famous painting of Jesus and the Constitution complete with quotes from the various Founding Fathers portrayed giving their views on religion.

I think it was posted here once.

There should be a new name for this genre. Capitalist Realism

2 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:01:16pm

re: #1 Expand Your Ground

There is a great version of his famous painting of Jesus and the Constitution complete with quotes from the various Founding Fathers portrayed giving their views on religion.

I think it was posted here once.

There should be a new name for this genre. Capitalist Realism

This one?

3 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:02:58pm

I was wounded by the unavailable video monster.

4 funky chicken  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:06:13pm

I was expecting Thomas Kincaid, to tell the truth.

5 Varek Raith  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:07:11pm

LOL.
"Who gave that slave a suit?"

6 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:11:24pm

Romney: Lord of the Flies.

One former classmate and old friend of Romney’s – who refused to be identified by name – said there are “a lot of guys” who went to Cranbrook who have “really negative memories” of Romney’s behavior in the dorms, behavior this classmate describes as “evil” and “like Lord of the Flies.”

The classmate believes Romney is lying when he claims to not remember it.
“It makes these fellows [who have owned up to it] very remorseful.  For [Romney] not to remember it? It doesn’t ring true.  How could the fellow with the scissors forget it?” the former classmate said.

7 nines09  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:11:57pm

"Art affectionado and televised bag of hammers, Sean Hannity". HA!

8 nines09  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:13:11pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Convenience? I think lying. Through his teeth.

9 Neutral President  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:14:41pm

re: #7 nines09

"Art affectionado and televised bag of hammers, Sean Hannity". HA!

I'm definitely going to have to remember that one. Hilarious and applicable to so many other than just Sean Vanity.

10 nines09  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:15:36pm

re: #1 Expand Your Ground

There is a great version of his famous painting of Jesus and the Constitution complete with quotes from the various Founding Fathers portrayed giving their views on religion.

I think it was posted here once.

There should be a new name for this genre. Capitalist Realism

I think you could call it Irrational Fear Induced Delusional Brain Scribblings.

11 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:15:49pm
12 elizajane  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:15:58pm

[dons art historian hat] 20th-century dictators have a solid history of supporting unsubtle, propagandistic art as an antidote to nasty, subversive modernist art. I know it's uncool to make analogies to Hitler so I won't, but can we bring in Stalin and Mao? The typology is pretty universal -- ideologically twisted dictatorship = bad, McNaughtony art and suppression/destruction of other cultural forms. [removes art historian hat and returns to being cross with Mitt Romney]

13 wrenchwench  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:17:27pm

re: #4 funky chicken

I was expecting Thomas Kincaid, to tell the truth.

This guy is what would happen if you crossed Thomas Kinkaid with Michele Bachmann.

14 Renaissance_Man  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:17:45pm

re: #8 nines09

Convenience? I think lying. Through his teeth.

Probably, but honestly, on the spectrum of things it's not a lie I'm especially concerned about. I'm sure he was an overprivileged douche in high school, but lots of people are. I was a colossal douchebag in high school too. It may have relevance to his current character, but that's between him and his psychiatrist - I'm not inclined to base my decision of the character of a man in his sixties on how much of a wanker he was in high school.

The arguments against Mitt Romney, as far as I'm concerned, start with the party he represents and the destructive, revanchist cult that controls it.

15 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:18:41pm
16 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:19:20pm
17 wrenchwench  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:22:47pm

re: #14 Renaissance_Man

I'm not inclined to base my decision of the character of a man in his sixties on how much of a wanker he was in high school.

My opinion of a man in his sixties is influenced by what he thinks of his wankerhood in high school. Failing to remember it and failing to realize how seriously he hurt someone are not good.

18 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:23:34pm

that guy is art like darrell worley is art

19 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:24:11pm

re: #17 wrenchwench

My opinion of a man in his sixties is influenced by what he thinks of his wankerhood in high school. Failing to remember it and failing to realize how seriously he hurt someone are not good.

And a man in his sixties acting like a teenager trying to get out of a speeding ticket with pathetic excuses of 'everyone else did it' is no man at all.

20 nines09  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:25:00pm

re: #14 Renaissance_Man

This is just a grain of salt on the pretzel. Mitt is a total buffoon. I suspect he is not all that bright nor all that savvy in everyday common things. His GOP is a broken and corrupt cult. He's an empty suit who has no vision nor answers. I wonder who will stand beside him and be foisted off as his "running mate." That should be a hoot. Can't be too sharp, make Mitt look bad.

21 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:26:25pm

Its like "Where's Waldo", except here, you're looking for the smallest hint of subtlety.

22 wrenchwench  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:27:06pm

re: #20 nines09

This is just a grain of salt on the pretzel. Mitt is a total buffoon. I suspect he is not all that bright nor all that savvy in everyday common things. His GOP is a broken and corrupt cult. He's an empty suit who has no vision nor answers. I wonder who will stand beside him and be foisted off as his "running mate." That should be a hoot. Can't be too sharp, make Mitt look bad.

Michele Bachmann would make Romney look great, but the Republican ticket would not be enhanced.

23 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:27:12pm

I don't know Art, but I know who Art can't marry in Utah.

24 gwangung  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:27:49pm

re: #14 Renaissance_Man

It's kinda small, stuff, true...but Romney is handling this with all the grace of a hippo on roller skates.

Just one of the MANY things that doesn't engender confidence.

25 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:28:29pm

re: #8 nines09

Convenience? I think lying. Through his teeth.

Or there were just so many such incidents that they blur in his mind.

26 jaunte  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:29:45pm
27 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:29:51pm

Franklin Graham: Obama is shaking his fist at God

“On Tuesday my state of North Carolina became the 31st state to approve a constitutional amendment defining marriage as being between a man and a woman. While the move to pass amendments defining marriage is relatively new, the definition of marriage is 8,000 years old and was defined not by man, but by God Himself.

In changing his position from that of Senator/candidate Obama, President Obama has, in my view, shaken his fist at the same God who created and defined marriage. It grieves me that our president would now affirm same-sex marriage, though I believe it grieves God even more.

The institution of marriage should not be defined by presidents or polls, governors or the media. The definition was set long ago and changing legislation or policy will never change God’s definition. This is a sad day for America. May God help us.”

HAHA! Graham doesn't realize the Earth is only 5000 years old!

28 nines09  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:29:53pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

Every time Michele opens her mouth dogs bark. Having her as the VP candidate would cause Mitts' head to explode. "Mitt? Michele said....BLAM!"

29 chonguey  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:30:36pm

As a Utahn, I am constantly amazed by the level of wingnuttiness of some my fellow citizens.

Jon McNaughton has a "Fine Art" shop in the Provo mall with his paintings displayed in the windows.

I am always pleasantly happy to see the store completely devoid of customers.

30 goddamnedfrank  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:30:41pm

re: #18 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

that guy is art like darrell worley is art

In grad school I had a psychology of human perception professor who was totally hung up on Bev Doolittle, thought she was the shit. Poor man was absolutely devastated when one of my classmates innocently asked, "Wait, but this is like bad art, right?"

31 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:32:00pm

re: #27 Kragar


Hey Franklin! When God gives you lemons, you find a new God!

32 jaunte  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:32:07pm

re: #27 Kragar

Franklin Graham has no faith that God can handle it.

33 Altermite  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:33:13pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Romney: Lord of the Flies.

The most common way to forget something like that is when it becomes habitual.

34 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:33:31pm

re: #27 Kragar

Franklin Graham: Obama is shaking his fist at God

HAHA! Graham doesn't realize the Earth is only 5000 years old!

Did Lindsay say the same when Cheney came out for gay marriage or does he only save his whine for Obama?

35 funky chicken  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:33:35pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

This guy is what would happen if you crossed Thomas Kinkaid with Michele Bachmann.

LOL. Thanks for that. I think I'll take a pass on exploring his work.

36 Obdicut  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:34:22pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

You don't like "Indian Shitting Doves", you philistine?

Image: LetMySpiritSoar.jpg

37 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:34:27pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

In grad school I had a psychology of human perception professor who was totally hung up on Bev Doolittle, thought she was the shit. Poor man was absolutely devastated when one of my classmates innocently asked, "Wait, but this is like bad art, right?"

lollll

I own Bev Doolittle books I've had since high school :D But I was also studying illustration and thought I was going to be doing razor-sharp oil paintings for stuffy book publishers as a career (thankfully I moved on from that) but I still sorta have a soft spot for Bev Doolittle, since she started her career literally travelling around the country in an Rv selling original watercolors at fairs and such.

38 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:34:48pm

re: #36 Obdicut

You don't like "Indian Shitting Doves", you philistine?

Image: LetMySpiritSoar.jpg

ahahahaha dying

39 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:35:55pm

re: #29 chonguey

As a Utahn, I am constantly amazed by the level of wingnuttiness of some my fellow citizens.

Jon McNaughton has a "Fine Art" shop in the Provo mall with his paintings displayed in the windows.

I am always pleasantly happy to see the store completely devoid of customers.

OF COURSE HE HAS A SHOP IN PROVO


OF COURSE HE DOES

40 sagehen  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:37:08pm

re: #27 Kragar

Franklin Graham: Obama is shaking his fist at God

HAHA! Graham doesn't realize the Earth is only 5000 years old!

If Graham would please consult the Book of Exodus, or Judges, he'd find that actually... God doesn't really object to having fists shaken at him. Sometimes, if people are yelling loud enough and make a logical case, God responds with "okay, okay already! I changed my mind, happy now!?!"

41 nines09  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:37:08pm

re: #36 Obdicut

You don't like "Indian Shitting Doves", you philistine?

Image: LetMySpiritSoar.jpg

You brought tears to my eyes. Great one.

42 makeitstop  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:37:19pm

re: #14 Renaissance_Man

Probably, but honestly, on the spectrum of things it's not a lie I'm especially concerned about. I'm sure he was an overprivileged douche in high school, but lots of people are. I was a colossal douchebag in high school too. It may have relevance to his current character, but that's between him and his psychiatrist - I'm not inclined to base my decision of the character of a man in his sixties on how much of a wanker he was in high school.

The arguments against Mitt Romney, as far as I'm concerned, start with the party he represents and the destructive, revanchist cult that controls it.

Past as prologue.

Mitt Romney clashed with a state commission tasked with helping LGBT youth at risk for bullying and suicide throughout his term as Massachusetts governor over funding and its participation in a pride parade. He eventually abolished the group altogether.

43 Obdicut  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:38:13pm

re: #42 makeitstop

But if we judge Romney on his record we'll see he's a moderate according to the view through Gigantic Rose-Colored Glasses.

44 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:40:09pm

re: #42 makeitstop

Past as prologue.

And just to show he's not limited to gaybashing:

Romney’s spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom later confirmed that the photos were a key concern as well as the events inclusion of the transgender community.

“This year, what was brought to our attention was a press release that was not authorized by this office but which went out on state letterhead promoting a parade that was hosted by a crossdresser and celebrating, among other things, transgenderism,” Fehrnstrom said.

I admit that I didn't know all those details. So basically Romney has issues with gays and lesbians, but those issues are utterly dwarfed by his disdain, hatred, and disgust at the trans and queer communities. I would have never guessed I could hate this man more than I already did.

45 wrenchwench  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:41:13pm

There's a car parked out front with a death-metal-style sticker on it that says

..TAMPON..
out for blood

with some nice red drips.

(back to work)

46 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:41:38pm

re: #44 Simply Sarah

And just to show he's not limited to gaybashing:

I admit that I didn't know all those details. So basically Romney has issues with gays and lesbians, but those issues are utterly dwarfed by his disdain, hatred, and disgust at the trans and queer communities. I would have never guessed I could hate this man more.

fucking cultists

47 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:43:07pm

re: #40 sagehen

If Graham would please consult the Book of Exodus, or Judges, he'd find that actually... God doesn't really object to having fists shaken at him. Sometimes, if people are yelling loud enough and make a logical case, God responds with "okay, okay already! I changed my mind, happy now!?!"

It seems Mr Graham is confusing the Prez with Vanni Fucci.

Image: Dali_The_Progphecy_of_Vanni_Fucci.jpg

48 Interesting Times  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:43:25pm

I've got to leave in a few minutes, but before I go, check out this picture I took outside earlier today - it's a sure sign that God approves of Obama's decision ;)

Image: iecgD.jpg

49 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:43:59pm

"Some of them might have gone too far." This is flippin dy-no-mite. 10 point drop among independents, guaranteed.[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

50 makeitstop  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:45:25pm

re: #44 Simply Sarah

And just to show he's not limited to gaybashing:

I admit that I didn't know all those details. So basically Romney has issues with gays and lesbians, but those issues are utterly dwarfed by his disdain, hatred, and disgust at the trans and queer communities. I would have never guessed I could hate this man more than I already did.

Yep. Hates The Other, and is objectively pro-bullying.

The 'grownup' Mitt is just an older version of that scissor-wielding kid from Cranbrook. A wealthy coward with no moral core whatsoever.

Not fit to be president.

51 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:45:40pm

re: #46 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

fucking cultists

Those few lines I quoted were enough to push me clearly past just disliking the guy into outright loathing him. Unless I hear something seriously clearing that up to not mean what it certainly seems to mean, I'm left with no choice but to feel he wants to destroy anyone that doesn't fit into his nice little binary gender boxes, with sorting based on his criteria.

52 Obdicut  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:47:37pm

re: #51 Simply Sarah

The weird thing about that to me is that some people are just born intersexed. It's undeniable. Even the guy who insists all homosexuality is a choice can't deny that some people are born with both male and female sexual characteristics. Not even getting into the people for whom it's 'just' psychological, there are physically intersexed people, and if your philosophy of gender simply can't deal with that fact, it's obviously a stupid one.

53 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:47:44pm

re: #2 Kragar

This one?

no, that one was once posted here, too.

this one (had to crop it to get it to upload)

Image: JesusUSA3.JPG

54 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:50:24pm

re: #53 Expand Your Ground

no, that one was once posted here, too.

this one (had to crop it to get it to upload)

Image: JesusUSA3.JPG

Mine was better.

55 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:51:27pm

re: #52 Obdicut

The weird thing about that to me is that some people are just born intersexed. It's undeniable. Even the guy who insists all homosexuality is a choice can't deny that some people are born with both male and female sexual characteristics. Not even getting into the people for whom it's 'just' psychological, there are physically intersexed people, and if your philosophy of gender simply can't deal with that fact, it's obviously a stupid one.

I'm honestly not sure how these people deal with intersex people. Or those that have sex chromosome setups other than XX or XY. Or those that are XX but naturally develop as a boy into a man or those that are XY but naturally develop as a girl into a woman. Or any other natural occurrence that doesn't fit nicely into their boxes.

Actually, I lied before. I know exactly how they deal with those people: They erase their existences so they can pretend those situations don't exist.

56 makeitstop  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:52:56pm

Listening to the radio clip, I now have a question -

Why does he not remember the incident, but remembers that whether someone was gay or not was the 'last thing on his mind in the Sixties?'

And even if you take him at his word regarding the homophobic aspect of this incident, how much better does it make him look? Is he really trying to make himself look better by claiming he was just a regular old bully and not a homophobic bully? Really?

57 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:53:17pm

re: #52 Obdicut

The weird thing about that to me is that some people are just born intersexed. It's undeniable. Even the guy who insists all homosexuality is a choice can't deny that some people are born with both male and female sexual characteristics. Not even getting into the people for whom it's 'just' psychological, there are physically intersexed people, and if your philosophy of gender simply can't deal with that fact, it's obviously a stupid one.

For fundamentalists who interpret the Bible literally as the Unchanging Word of God dictated by the Holy Spirit and merely written down by humans, there is no question on homosexuality.

For those people who are enlightened enough to say that although they feel the Bible was inspired by God, it was written by humans in a specific historical, social and cultural context and has to be seen as such.

And since our views of sexuality (as well as mental illness, miracles, "supernatural" events, witchcraft, etc...) have evolved since the Bible was written., it calls for an enlightened and modern interpretation of the Scriptures.

Or in other Fundamentalist terms: relativism, secularism and blasphemy...

58 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:56:34pm

Food for thought: Map of NC by county, 1st comparing the number of people with college degrees, then showing the results for the gay marriage ban.

Image: joB7S.jpg

59 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:56:35pm

re: #54 Kragar

Mine was better.

bloodier in any case...

60 Sinistershade  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:57:35pm

Great comment at, I believe, the HuffPost article:

Sweet Christ...Greg Marmalard is running for President!

61 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:57:48pm

re: #58 Kragar

Food for thought: Map of NC by county, 1st comparing the number of people with college degrees, then showing the results for the gay marriage ban.

Image: joB7S.jpg

just proves Santorum's claim that universities are nothing but secularist indocrination centers!

62 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:57:50pm

re: #59 Expand Your Ground

bloodier in any case...

Like I said, better.

63 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 10, 2012 1:58:39pm

re: #62 Kragar

Like I said, better.

I love Cthulucy!

64 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:04:42pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

This guy is what would happen if you crossed Thomas Kinkaid with Michele Bachmann.

They ain't making 'em like Norman Rockwell any more.

65 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:06:09pm

re: #29 chonguey

As a Utahn, I am constantly amazed by the level of wingnuttiness of some my fellow citizens.

Jon McNaughton has a "Fine Art" shop in the Provo mall with his paintings displayed in the windows.

I am always pleasantly happy to see the store completely devoid of customers.

Someone must buy this stuff. Probably online.

I have to admit, I find the paintings, and his explanations of what he puts in them, infinitely fascinating.

66 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:11:53pm

Jesus versus Cthulu

Conquered death? yes/yes
Promises to return? yes/yes
Has fanatical cults devoted to him? yes/yes
Promised to rid the world of suffering? yes/no
Promised to cause madness and suffering for all humanity? no/yes
Has kept his promise? no/yes

Advantage: Cthulu

67 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:16:41pm

re: #66 Kragar

Jesus versus Cthulu

Conquered death? yes/yes
Promises to return? yes/yes
Has fanatical cults devoted to him? yes/yes
Promised to rid the world of suffering? yes/no
Promised to cause madness and suffering for all humanity? no/yes
Has kept his promise? no/yes

Advantage: Cthulu

Roman Cthulic or Orthodox Cthulic?

68 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:19:45pm

re: #67 Expand Your Ground

Roman Cthulic or Orthodox Cthulic?

SPLITTERS!

69 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:20:12pm

Poor Mitt...he can't even shoot himself in the foot right.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

70 wrenchwench  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:21:26pm
Father, father, everybody thinks we're wrong
Oh, but who are they to judge us
Simply because our hair is long
Oh, you know we've got to find a way
To bring some understanding here today
71 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:22:03pm
72 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:25:08pm

For the retweeters...

73 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:25:23pm

Oops apologies to Lindsay Graham, seeing now the story is about Franklin, son of Billy.

74 makeitstop  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:46:59pm

Mitt as high school student is starting to look like the 'class clown' who was always way more annoying than funny.

75 makeitstop  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:52:26pm

The more I read of this interview, the less sense Romney's defense makes.

"The people involved didn't come out of the closet until years later," he noted. "The idea that this is something that was known by me ... is obviously absurd. I had no idea that this person might have been gay."

“I don’t remember that incident and I’ll tell you I certainly don’t believe that I, I can’t speak for other people of course, thought the fellow was homosexual," he said earlier in the interview.

WTF is that first sentence about? If 'the people involved didn't come out of the closet until years later,' doesn't that indicate some level of knowledge about the kid who Mitt attacked with the scissors?

And again - how does one not remember 'the incident' yet distinctly remember not thinking the victim was gay?

76 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:52:56pm

re: #74 makeitstop

Mitt as high school student is starting to look like the 'class clown' who was always way more annoying than funny.

He's the guy who thought he was the class clown, but who was really the rich, malicious asshole that few wanted to cross because of Daddy.

77 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:55:41pm

re: #76 Lidane

He's the guy who thought he was the class clown, but who was really the rich, malicious asshole that few wanted to cross because of Daddy.

And that is the sort of image that is going to dog him throughout the campaign.

Face it, he is the boss from "The Office". the guy with no friends who tries to be all chummy with his underlings, but just makes them feel uncomfortable.

And the rest of us 99-percenters are all just dogs to be tied to his roof or "sissy boys" to be held down and shorn with scissors.

78 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:55:49pm

Gotta love that religious compassion:

Bill Donohue: ‘I Want The Law To Discriminate’ Against Same-Sex Couples

I still want these bigots to show me when we've ever amended the Constitution to take away equal rights. WTF.

79 nines09  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:55:53pm

re: #71 darthstar

Popup of Mitt demonstrating firearms safety.

"Hey! It's Not LoadedBLAM!"

80 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:56:14pm

re: #79 Clap On! Clap Off! As Seen On TV!!!!!

"Hey! It's Not LoadedBLAM!"

He's just shooting a varmint.

81 nines09  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:57:27pm

re: #80 darthstar

Actually I don't know what he's doing. Playing for the camera but just what?

82 makeitstop  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:57:58pm

re: #80 darthstar

He's just shooting a varmint.

A small creature, if you will.

83 jaunte  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:58:31pm

re: #78 Lidane

DONOHUE: Oh, it’s very simple. It’s absolutely very simple. I have a doctorate in sociology from NYU, and I know what the literature says. The literature is definitive. There is one gold standard, one gold standard for children. That is: there is no substitute for a marriage between a man and a woman.
...
Donohue might want to revisit sociology before he makes such grandiose claims. Not a single study has compared married opposite-sex couples to married same-sex couples and found a difference in their parenting ability. Any claim otherwise is a distortion of the research, not a “gold standard.”

Donohue needs a refresher course in his doctorate subject.

84 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 2:59:42pm

re: #82 makeitstop

A small creature, if you will.

Mitt Romney is a small creature in more ways than one.

85 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:00:21pm

re: #83 jaunte

Donohue needs a refresher course in his doctorate subject.

He needs a refresher course in being a decent human being first. =P

86 wrenchwench  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:00:37pm

re: #75 makeitstop

The more I read of this interview, the less sense Romney's defense makes.

WTF is that first sentence about? If 'the people involved didn't come out of the closet until years later,' doesn't that indicate some level of knowledge about the kid who Mitt attacked with the scissors?

And again - how does one not remember 'the incident' yet distinctly remember not thinking the victim was gay?

Especially since it wasn't about how long the victim's hair was, but that it was "bleached-blond hair that draped over one eye".

87 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:01:30pm

re: #86 wrenchwench

Especially since it wasn't about how long the victim's hair was, but that it was "bleached-blond hair that draped over one eye".

I'm surprised Mitt didn't describe it as marvelous bleach blond hair...

88 Neutral President  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:02:00pm

re: #27 Kragar

Franklin Graham: Obama is shaking his fist at God

HAHA! Graham doesn't realize the Earth is only 5000 years old!

6015 years. Based on that 4004 BC date they pulled out of their asses in the middle ages.

89 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:02:26pm

re: #78 Lidane

Gotta love that religious compassion:

Bill Donohue: ‘I Want The Law To Discriminate’ Against Same-Sex Couples

I still want these bigots to show me when we've ever amended the Constitution to take away equal rights. WTF.

And yet this fucker whines about persecution. Fuck him seriously.

90 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:04:00pm

Romney looks even more petty and dickheadish when he tries to defend what happened.

91 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:06:22pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

And yet this fucker whines about persecution. Fuck him seriously.

They all whine about persecution, despite the fact that none of them are going to be rounded up and killed in the streets for their beliefs, or for openly criticizing the President.

We've got it really fucking good in this country. Whining about being persecuted when you consider all the freedoms that we have is just ridiculous.

92 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:07:32pm

re: #91 Lidane

They all whine about persecution, despite the fact that none of them are going to be rounded up and killed in the streets for their beliefs, or for openly criticizing the President.

We've got it really fucking good in this country. Whining about being persecuted when you consider all the freedoms that we have is just ridiculous.

I know. It's pathetic.

93 nines09  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:09:31pm

re: #91 Lidane

They all whine about persecution, despite the fact that none of them are going to be rounded up and killed in the streets for their beliefs, or for openly criticizing the President.

We've got it really fucking good in this country. Whining about being persecuted when you consider all the freedoms that we have is just ridiculous.

Their persecution is that they do not have total power. They are not obeyed by everyone. That they are just another part of a free society and not calling all the shots kills them. Power hungry sociopathic psychos.

94 Achilles Tang  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:09:33pm

re: #83 jaunte

Donohue needs a refresher course in his doctorate subject.

I think he is referring to the "principle" that it takes a man and woman to make children. Needless to say that does not mean raise children, so he should be against all single parenting as well as gay parenting, infertile couples being married (except God makes that an exception), artificial insemination and surrogate mothering; and of course we know about contraception.

People like Donohue make me think bad things about the Catholic religion and he makes it hard for decent Catholics to participate in debates like this.

95 funky chicken  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:10:26pm

re: #36 Obdicut

You don't like "Indian Shitting Doves", you philistine?

Image: LetMySpiritSoar.jpg

Tell me that's a photoshop or something.

96 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:11:52pm

re: #74 makeitstop

Mitt as high school student is starting to look like the 'class clown' who was always way more annoying than funny.

I'm surprised no one posited this, but the more stuff that comes out about Romney, especially the prep school stuff, the more he comes off looking like a real-life Niedermeyer from Animal House.

97 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:12:57pm

Its sad when Adam Sandler can give a more sincere apology than Mitt.

98 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:13:10pm

re: #96 ArthurSlugworth

I'm surprised no one posited this, but the more stuff that comes out about Romney, especially the prep school stuff, the more he comes off looking like a real-life Niedermeyer from Animal House.

Heh sounds right.

99 funky chicken  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:13:29pm

re: #75 makeitstop

Yeah, he was just new and weird, so we attacked him and chopped off all his hair. What's the big deal?

That's his defense?

100 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:13:52pm

re: #88 ArchangelMichael

6015 years. Based on that 4004 BC date they pulled out of their asses in the middle ages.

In defence of the middle ages, I must say that the number was reached by adding all the dates and generations found in the Bible. And that they presented it as the MINIMUM age of the earth.

Wingnuts are a more modern phenomenon.

101 dragonfire1981  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:15:08pm

Sorry folks, we still have to put up with Michele Bachmann:

Bachmann withdraws Swiss Citizenship

Rep. Michele Bachmann, a Minnesota Republican and former presidential candidate, announced Thursday that she was withdrawing her dual Swiss citizenship, which Politico first disclosed earlier this week.

In a statement, Bachmann said she did not want to leave the impression that she was uncommitted to the United States.

Today I sent a letter to the Swiss Consulate requesting withdrawal of my dual Swiss citizenship, which was conferred upon me by operation of Swiss law when I married my husband in 1978. I took this action because I want to make it perfectly clear: I was born in America and I am a proud American citizen. I am, and always have been, 100 percent committed to our United States Constitution and the United States of America. As the daughter of an Air Force veteran, stepdaughter of an Army veteran and sister of a Navy veteran, I am proud of my allegiance to the greatest nation the world has ever known.

102 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:17:11pm

re: #93 Clap On! Clap Off! As Seen On TV!!!!!

Their persecution is that they do not have total power. They are not obeyed by everyone. That they are just another part of a free society and not calling all the shots kills them. Power hungry sociopathic psychos.

You also forgot to add anytime somebody questions or mocks their beliefs.

103 funky chicken  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:17:45pm

Former Romney Classmate Describes ‘Bullying Supreme’ – A ‘Pack of Dogs’ Who Targeted ‘Different’ Boy

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

104 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:20:35pm

Girl Scouts under scrutiny from Catholic bishops

Long a lightning rod for conservative criticism, the Girl Scouts of the USA are now facing their highest-level challenge yet: An official inquiry by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

At issue are concerns about program materials that some Catholics find offensive, as well as assertions that the Scouts associate with other groups espousing stances that conflict with church teaching. The Scouts, who have numerous parish-sponsored troops, deny many of the claims and defend their alliances.

The inquiry coincides with the Scouts' 100th anniversary celebrations and follows a chain of other controversies.

Yeah, because the Catholic's inquiries about problems with children have such a great track record. Don't they have some priest they need relocated?

105 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:20:54pm

re: #103 funky chicken

Former Romney Classmate Describes ‘Bullying Supreme’ – A ‘Pack of Dogs’ Who Targeted ‘Different’ Boy

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

He was a jerk then as he is now.

106 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:21:11pm

re: #103 funky chicken

Former Romney Classmate Describes ‘Bullying Supreme’ – A ‘Pack of Dogs’ Who Targeted ‘Different’ Boy

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

"Ask any of my former classmates... EXCEPT THAT GUY!"

107 wrenchwench  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:21:27pm

re: #103 funky chicken

Former Romney Classmate Describes ‘Bullying Supreme’ – A ‘Pack of Dogs’ Who Targeted ‘Different’ Boy

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

From there:

Asked if Lauber was targeted because he was gay, as reported by the Post, Maxwell said, “We didn’t know that word in those days… but there were other words that were used. We weren’t ignorant, we just didn’t use the current names for things.

108 dragonfire1981  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:23:12pm

re: #104 Kragar

Girl Scouts under scrutiny from Catholic bishops

Yeah, because the Catholic's inquiries about problems with children have such a great track record. Don't they have some priest they need relocated?

Paged it: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

109 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:23:36pm

re: #104 Kragar

Girl Scouts under scrutiny from Catholic bishops

Yeah, because the Catholic's inquiries about problems with children have such a great track record. Don't they have some priest they need relocated?

Dear Bishops,

Instead of focusing on the Girl Scouts, how about cleaning up your own damn problems, like sexual predator priests?

No love,
Me

110 makeitstop  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:24:15pm

re: #103 funky chicken

Former Romney Classmate Describes ‘Bullying Supreme’ – A ‘Pack of Dogs’ Who Targeted ‘Different’ Boy

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

Wow.

I'll bet Team Romney is thinking they should have begged Mitt's school chums not to say anything.

This just keeps getting worse.

111 dragonfire1981  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:24:21pm

re: #103 funky chicken

Former Romney Classmate Describes ‘Bullying Supreme’ – A ‘Pack of Dogs’ Who Targeted ‘Different’ Boy

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

Oh no, Obama's going to EAT Romney!

112 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:24:28pm

re: #104 Kragar

Girl Scouts under scrutiny from Catholic bishops

Yeah, because the Catholic's inquiries about problems with children have such a great track record. Don't they have some priest they need relocated?

This is how I feel when Catholic orphenages whine that they're forced to close over policies that allow for gay parents to adopt. They have their own problems. They shouldn't be so judgmental as hell over other people.

113 makeitstop  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:24:51pm

re: #111 dragonfire1981

Oh no, Obama's going to EAT Romney!

Somebody had to say it! :)

114 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:25:36pm

re: #112 HappyWarrior

They shouldn't be so judgmental as hell over other people.

Thats kind of their schtick.

115 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:26:07pm

I bet Bryan Fischer is giddy after hearing Romney bullied a kid.

116 makeitstop  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:26:25pm

re: #114 Kragar

Thats kind of their schtick all they've got.

117 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:26:47pm

re: #114 Kragar

Thats kind of their schtick.

I know. There's a good reason they've lost members.

118 dragonfire1981  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:27:03pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

I bet Bryan Fischer is giddy after hearing Romney bullied a kid.

Right wing rage porn?

119 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:27:34pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

I know. There's a good reason they've lost members.

Advantage: Cthulhu

120 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:27:39pm

As if the wingnuts didn't hate him enough already:

Romney: Gay Couples Should Be Able To Adopt, But Not Marry

121 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:27:52pm

re: #118 dragonfire1981

Right wing rage porn?

No, that was what happened when Obama said he was pro gay marriage. This is Bryan's bullying gay kids wackoff jamboree.

122 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:28:36pm

re: #120 Lidane

As if the wingnuts didn't hate him enough already:

Romney: Gay Couples Should Be Able To Adopt, But Not Marry

Nothing says family values like denying an adoptive parent visitation rights if a kid has to go to the hospital.

123 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:29:07pm

re: #120 Lidane

As if the wingnuts didn't hate him enough already:

Romney: Gay Couples Should Be Able To Adopt, But Not Marry

Yeah they're going to be pissed because they think adoption will allow gays to molest kids.

124 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:31:09pm

re: #122 darthstar

Nothing says family values like denying an adoptive parent visitation rights if a kid has to go to the hospital.

I just love the pretzel logic needed for that position. LGBT couples can adopt kids and act like families, but somehow they're not entitled to the full legal rights and benefits that married parents would be entitled to under the law.

It's like he doesn't see the incoherence there. WTF.

125 dragonfire1981  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:32:18pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

No, that was what happened when Obama said he was pro gay marriage. This is Bryan's bullying gay kids wackoff jamboree.

Worst event ever!

126 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:32:46pm

re: #124 Lidane

Mitt Romney is a walking attack ad against Mitt Romney. I hope this kind of narrative continues into the fall.

127 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:36:07pm

You know, I'm starting to wonder if this story might end up actually hurting Romney some before it gets swept away. I mean, maybe I'm biased due to not being an asshole, but it seems to be reaching a point where I'd at least like to think it might make some vaguely ethical people that otherwise might support him pretty uncomfortable.

129 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:37:36pm

Boycott!
Delta Airlines pulls ads from 'Daily Show' after skit featuring manger draws fire from Catholic League

The skit showed a manger in between a woman's legs; Catholic League urges others to follow Delta's lead

130 Neutral President  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:38:26pm

re: #128 Lidane

Fox News Radio host: Public schools are ‘indoctrination centers’ for LGBT rights

I thought they were communist indoctrination centers... which is it Wingnuts?

131 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:39:35pm

re: #129 Killgore Trout

Boycott!
Delta Airlines pulls ads from 'Daily Show' after skit featuring manger draws fire from Catholic League

Look, perhaps we didn't make this clear before. If Donohue and Pals want to try and start a boycott of something, they're free to do so. If they can actually convince companies to go along with it, well, more power to the assholes, I guess.

132 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:42:46pm

re: #125 dragonfire1981

Worst event ever!

Hey. Is that you on Twitter?

133 gwangung  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:47:37pm

re: #131 Simply Sarah

Look, perhaps we didn't make this clear before. If Donohue and Pals want to try and start a boycott of something, they're free to do so. If they can actually convince companies to go along with it, well, more power to the assholes, I guess.

Well, they're still assholes, we get to call them assholes, and we get to counter what they try to come up; i.e., call up Delta and tell THEM their assholes for caving.

134 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:48:11pm

Drones!
U.S. drone kills 8 militants in Yemen

U.S. drone strikes killed eight Al-Qaeda militants gathered in a house in southern Yemen, tribal sources said Thursday, amid reports a Saudi mole had infiltrated the network and supplied information to the CIA.

The strikes took place around midnight Wednesday in the town of Jaar, an Al-Qaeda stronghold in Abyan province, a source in the town said.

“We heard three explosions rock the town,” the source said, adding that a “U.S. drone” carried out the strikes on a residence where the jihadists had been meeting in the dead of night.

“Eight militants were killed and their bodies were left in pieces,” the source told AFP as witnesses said parts of the two-storey building were completely destroyed.

135 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:48:11pm

re: #133 gwangung

Well, they're still assholes, we get to call them assholes, and we get to counter what they try to come up; i.e., call up Delta and tell THEM their assholes for caving.

That's basically how it works, yes.

136 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:49:18pm

re: #134 Killgore Trout

Drones!
U.S. drone kills 8 militants in Yemen

You know, maybe they should go back to that whole cave thing. Those might be harder to drone strike. Just saying.

137 dragonfire1981  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:50:39pm

re: #128 Lidane

Fox News Radio host: Public schools are ‘indoctrination centers’ for LGBT rights

MSNBC TV host: Catholic Schools are indoctrination centers for religious bigotry

138 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:52:05pm

re: #137 dragonfire1981

MSNBC TV host: Catholic Schools are indoctrination centers for religious bigotry

Did you just Tweet me?

139 dragonfire1981  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:52:28pm
140 dragonfire1981  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:52:42pm

re: #138 Gus

Did you just Tweet me?

Yep, sure did. I finally caved and joined the Twitterverse today, you and Charles were the first two I followed. I didn't see you online here and figured that was the next best way to get your attention.

141 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:52:47pm

re: #136 Simply Sarah

You know, maybe they should go back to that whole cave thing. Those might be harder to drone strike. Just saying.

These poor guys in Yemen are fucked. There have been more drone strikes in Yemen than Pakistan lately. We got their number.

142 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:52:50pm

re: #127 Simply Sarah

You know, I'm starting to wonder if this story might end up actually hurting Romney some before it gets swept away. I mean, maybe I'm biased due to not being an asshole, but it seems to be reaching a point where I'd at least like to think it might make some vaguely ethical people that otherwise might support him pretty uncomfortable.

It is a mortal wound.

143 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:52:58pm

Won't make a hobby of importing from rwnj sites, but this little gem is crystal-pure in its absence of self-awareness:


That’s what I really despise about the left.

Due to their underlying agenda, they force us to oppose things that we shouldn’t oppose, like environmentalism, and support things we shouldn’t support, like Romney’s election.

--Commenter on a Romney/bullying thread

144 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:54:43pm

re: #140 dragonfire1981

Yep, sure did. I finally caved and joined the Twitterverse today, you and Charles were the first two I followed. I didn't see you online here and figured that was the next best way to get your attention.

Ah. OK. Give me a minute.

145 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:54:48pm

re: #143 Decatur Deb

Won't make a hobby of importing from rwnj sites, but this little gem is crystal-pure in its absence of self-awareness:

--Commenter on a Romney/bullying thread

Heh. The reactionary's dilemma.

146 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:55:20pm

re: #140 dragonfire1981

Yep, sure did. I finally caved and joined the Twitterverse today, you and Charles were the first two I followed. I didn't see you online here and figured that was the next best way to get your attention.

Upload a profile pic. I hate those eggs. ;)

147 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:55:36pm

re: #145 Killgore Trout

Heh. The reactionary's dilemma.

Extra point for accurate use of the word.

148 Achilles Tang  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:55:46pm

re: #131 Simply Sarah

Look, perhaps we didn't make this clear before. If Donohue and Pals want to try and start a boycott of something, they're free to do so. If they can actually convince companies to go along with it, well, more power to the assholes, I guess.

“Delta doesn’t discriminate nor do we condone discrimination in regard to age, race, nationality, sexual orientation, religion or gender,” she added.

...but the Catholics sure as hell do, and we want their business more./

149 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:56:35pm

re: #148 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

...but the Catholics sure as hell do, and we want their business more./

Nah, most Catholics are cool. It's just the really loud ones you need to look out for. And the ones with funny hats.

150 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:00:47pm

re: #149 Simply Sarah

Nah, most Catholics are cool. It's just the really loud ones you need to look out for. And the ones with funny hats.

These ones?
Image: st-patricks-day-parades-new-york.jpg

or these?
Image: KnightsInChurchAltarServer.JPG

151 Achilles Tang  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:01:26pm

re: #149 Simply Sarah

Nah, most Catholics are cool. It's just the really loud ones you need to look out for. And the ones with funny hats.

I miss Reine here too, but the majority follow the loud ones and even Reine was very sensitive about any critique of her church. It's a hard line to navigate without offending and in person we do so by avoiding these topics altogether. Much of the reason we, or I anyway, are here is that we can have such discussions.

152 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:02:49pm

re: #128 Lidane

Fox News Radio host: Public schools are ‘indoctrination centers’ for LGBT rights

What a douchebag. Sounds not unlike those who claimed universities were indoctrination places for civil rights as if that's a bad thing.

153 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:02:49pm

re: #151 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

I miss Reine here too, but the majority follow the loud ones and even Reine was very sensitive about any critique of her church. It's a hard line to navigate without offending and in person we do so by avoiding these topics altogether. Much of the reason we, or I anyway, are here is that we can have such discussions.

Did Reine go?

154 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:03:52pm

re: #150 Decatur Deb

These ones?
Image: st-patricks-day-parades-new-york.jpg

or these?
Image: KnightsInChurchAltarServer.JPG

OK, fine. Some of the ones in funny hats. To be fair, they're also normally pretty loud.

155 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:04:02pm

re: #153 Decatur Deb

Did Reine go?

She's around a bit but her visits are rare.

156 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:05:35pm

re: #155 Killgore Trout

She's around a bit but her visits are rare.

That would be a loss. She starred during the BP screwup.

157 wrenchwench  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:06:23pm
Instead of playing in a championship baseball game, Paige Sultzbach and her team won't even make it to the dugout.

A Phoenix school that was scheduled to play the 15-year-old Mesa girl and her male teammates forfeited the game rather than face a female player.

Our Lady of Sorrows bowed out of Thursday night's game against Mesa Preparatory Academy in the Arizona Charter Athletic Association championship. The game had been scheduled at Phoenix College.

Paige, who plays second base at Mesa Prep, had to sit out two previous games against Our Lady of Sorrows out of respect for its beliefs. But having her miss the championship was not an option for Mesa Prep.

"Our Lady of Sorrows". I don't know whether to 'heh' or 'arg'.

Our Lady of Sorrows is run by the U.S. branch of the Society of Saint Pius X. The group represents conservative, traditional priests who broke from the Catholic Church in the 1980s.

Read more: [Link: azstarnet.com...]

158 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:07:45pm

re: #151 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

I miss Reine here too, but the majority follow the loud ones and even Reine was very sensitive about any critique of her church. It's a hard line to navigate without offending and in person we do so by avoiding these topics altogether. Much of the reason we, or I anyway, are here is that we can have such discussions.

I wouldn't want to speak on her behalf but I found her quite tolerant of Catholic criticism, she had some herself. I recall befriending her on the old LGF in a debate about when PZ Myers desecrated a communion wafer. She's a good egg.

160 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:08:40pm

re: #156 Decatur Deb

That would be a loss. She starred during the BP screwup.

She was also exceptionally helpful with the LGF community in general.

161 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:08:40pm

re: #151 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

I miss Reine here too, but the majority follow the loud ones and even Reine was very sensitive about any critique of her church. It's a hard line to navigate without offending and in person we do so by avoiding these topics altogether. Much of the reason we, or I anyway, are here is that we can have such discussions.

I'm very defensive against people trying to paint Catholics with negative broad brushes, but I'm sorry, I won't pull my punches against the official leadership of the Church. It was those backwards old men that in part drove me from the Church and I will not abide by them dragging it kicking and screaming back into the Dark Ages. If that offends some Catholics, well, tough.

162 dragonfire1981  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:11:18pm

re: #146 Gus

Upload a profile pic. I hate those eggs. ;)

Done and Done.

163 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:12:54pm

re: #162 dragonfire1981

Done and Done.

Also - if you go to your LGF account settings and link your Twitter account to LGF, your profile will have a Follow button and you can set it to automatically post a tweet whenever you create a new LGF Page, with your Twitter account.

164 Mattand  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:15:36pm

Quick top-of-my-head about Romney: the only way he could not remember assualting a fellow student with scissors is if he blocked it out of his memory. That would imply feeling guilty about the incident, which his comments about the incident don't indicate.

165 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:17:04pm

re: #162 dragonfire1981

Done and Done.

Looks good. Of course you might have to do some clean-up to your account since you'll likely be harassed by the usual weirdos.

166 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:17:56pm

re: #156 Decatur Deb

That would be a loss. She starred during the BP screwup.

I miss her.

167 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:18:06pm

re: #164 mattand

Quick top-of-my-head about Romney: the only way he could not remember assualting a fellow student with scissors is if he blocked it out of his memory. That would imply feeling guilty about the incident, which his comments about the incident don't indicate.

And since all reputable studies I'm aware of indicate that repressed memories don't actually exist, i guess we have our answer.

168 Genshed  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:20:06pm

It's going to get harder for the RWNM to push the "Obama is elite and out of touch" meme after this, I think. Although at least one commenter at some site said, 'well, at least I know WHERE Romney went to school!' as if Obama's personal history has somehow been shrouded from media scrutiny. I know more about his early life than I do about my mother's.

169 Achilles Tang  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:20:58pm

re: #153 Decatur Deb

Did Reine go?

Last I saw she has been absent for some months. I'm guessing it was hard for her to take what was going on about contraception/abortion and so on. It was a bit heated at times.

170 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:22:52pm

re: #164 mattand

Quick top-of-my-head about Romney: the only way he could not remember assualting a fellow student with scissors is if he blocked it out of his memory. That would imply feeling guilty about the incident, which his comments about the incident don't indicate.

I don't think Romney has much of a conscience.

That conclusion is just based on what I've read of his prior actions, so I may be completely out to lunch.

171 freetoken  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:26:01pm

Going around the 'net:

Marriage evolution is 'revolt against God', says syndicated preacher (of 1915)

Some things never change.

Someone found another version from same preacher, looking in the NYT archive:

[Link: query.nytimes.com...]


See what the evolution of marriage has wrought?

172 Achilles Tang  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:26:25pm

re: #158 Killgore Trout

I wouldn't want to speak on her behalf but I found her quite tolerant of Catholic criticism, she had some herself. I recall befriending her on the old LGF in a debate about when PZ Myers desecrated a communion wafer. She's a good egg.

Yes, but I still remember having my ears burned by her when I was critical of Catholic hospitals, often being the only regional hospitals, wanting to impose their doctrines on all those who depended on them. As I recall, I said they were not charities and took government money, and charged the same fees as any other, yet wanted to operate outside the secular laws.

173 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:29:33pm

Hey peeps! Made it home through the police gulag that is the neighborhood I am in. Speed traps.

Otherwise darthstar is made for twitter, and Bristol Palin is a full of herself mean asshole.

174 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:29:46pm

re: #171 freetoken

Going around the 'net:

Marriage evolution is 'revolt against God', says syndicated preacher (of 1915)

Some things never change.

Someone found another version from same preacher, looking in the NYT archive:

[Link: query.nytimes.com...]

See what the evolution of marriage has wrought?

My god, you're right. Because of all that, I'm wearing jeans right now. How will I ever live down this horrible disgrace on myself, my father, and God?

175 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:30:20pm

re: #171 freetoken

Going around the 'net:

Marriage evolution is 'revolt against God', says syndicated preacher (of 1915)

Some things never change.

Someone found another version from same preacher, looking in the NYT archive:

[Link: query.nytimes.com...]

See what the evolution of marriage has wrought?

The worst thing about equality, whether in marriage or in riding the bus, is the inevitable loss of superiority over members of obviously inferior groups.

Do I have to?

176 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:31:02pm

re: #173 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

Hey peeps! Made it home through the police gulag that is the neighborhood I am in. Speed traps.

Otherwise darthstar is made for twitter, and Bristol Palin is a full of herself mean asshole.

TMI.

177 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:31:42pm

re: #174 Simply Sarah

My god, you're right. Because of all that, I'm wearing jeans right now. How will I ever live down this horrible disgrace on myself, my father, and God?

My dog doesn't care if I wear jeans.

178 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:32:18pm

re: #177 Cathartic Expression

My dog doesn't care if I wear jeans.

That just means your dog is a heathen floozy.

179 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:32:36pm

Why the fuck does everyone leave when I get here?

180 freetoken  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:33:00pm

re: #179 Cathartic Expression

We're switching over to the night-watch.

181 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:33:12pm

re: #177 Cathartic Expression

My dog doesn't care if I wear jeans.

Cthulhu doesn't care if you wear jeans.

182 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:33:22pm

re: #179 Cathartic Expression

Why the fuck does everyone leave when I get here?

Jeans are the devil's gutchies.

183 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:33:51pm

re: #177 Cathartic Expression

My dog doesn't care if I wear jeans.

Nothing comes between you and your Calvins?

//

184 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:34:16pm

OK, if the problem is in my pants, then I'm going naked, dammit.

185 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:34:51pm

re: #184 Cathartic Expression

OK, if the problem is in my pants, then I'm going naked, dammit.

Works for me.

186 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:34:53pm

re: #183 Gus

Nothing comes between you and your Calvins?

//

That could cost you some hard Knox.

187 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:35:14pm

re: #184 Cathartic Expression

OK, if the problem is in my pants, then I'm going naked, dammit.

TMI

188 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:35:28pm

re: #187 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

TMI

Speak for yourself.

189 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:35:42pm

re: #186 Decatur Deb

That could cost you some hard Knox.

Aarrgghh.

190 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:38:40pm

It would be cool if reine came back & took on the thankless job of another cookbook.

191 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:40:22pm

I mean that sincerely. Both books were so cool and appreciated, but I assume the work was pretty brutal. We have a lot of foodies here still, new ones too.

192 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:40:57pm

Daddy's boy is desperate.

193 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:42:14pm

re: #192 Gus

Daddy's boy is desperate.

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Prez says: "Swiftboat, my ass."

194 Achilles Tang  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:43:25pm

Hey, does everyone know that everything will end on May 27th, 2012?

This moonbat ad comes up on Space.com, of all places

195 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:43:32pm

re: #192 Gus

Daddy's boy is desperate.

[Embedded content]

Mitt, dude, even if it was "planted" by Obama, it still happened and you still have to own up to it. Truth revealed in malice is still truth.

196 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:44:19pm

re: #194 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

Hey, does everyone know that everything will end on May 27th, 2012?

This moonbat ad comes up on Space.com, of all places

I feel fine.

197 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:44:33pm

re: #193 Decatur Deb

Prez says: "Swiftboat, my ass."

You can tell where my mind is when I start trying to figure out what kind of toy a swiftboat would be. :x

198 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:45:22pm

re: #191 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

I mean that sincerely. Both books were so cool and appreciated, but I assume the work was pretty brutal. We have a lot of foodies here still, new ones too.

And Juante's pens (pencils?) are itching to go I bet. Anyone new here who hasn't checked out the LGF cookbooks should.

199 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:45:31pm

re: #194 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

Hey, does everyone know that everything will end on May 27th, 2012?

This moonbat ad comes up on Space.com, of all places

How many times do these people have to be wrong before they give up?

200 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:46:24pm

re: #199 Cathartic Expression

How many times do these people have to be wrong before they give up?

The worst part for them? If they're ever right they won't be able to gloat about it.

201 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:46:26pm

re: #198 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

And Juante's pens (pencils?) are itching to go I bet. Anyone new here who hasn't checked out the LGF cookbooks should.

Damn straight. If not for the food, then for the art.

202 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:46:47pm

re: #199 Cathartic Expression

How many times do these people have to be wrong before they give up?

203 Achilles Tang  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:46:51pm

re: #199 Cathartic Expression

How many times do these people have to be wrong before they give up?

Another 2000 years??

204 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:47:02pm

re: #200 Simply Sarah

The worst part for them? If they're ever right they won't be able to gloat about it.

Don't you just love irony?

205 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:48:24pm

re: #204 Cathartic Expression

Don't you just love irony?

Not really, actually. It's too much of a pain to have people get the definition straight half the time.

206 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:49:18pm

re: #205 Simply Sarah

Not really, actually. It's too much of a pain to have people get the definition straight half the time.

*looks at Ms. Morissette*

207 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:50:46pm

re: #192 Gus

Daddy's boy is desperate.

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Poor baby.

208 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:51:47pm

[Link: www.lulu.com...]

209 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:53:45pm

re: #190 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

It would be cool if reine came back & took on the thankless job of another cookbook.

Did you know she isn't even a cook? I got drafted in late to the project to help with proofreading and learned she just did it out of the goodness of her heart and the love of the lgf community.

210 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:55:46pm

re: #205 Simply Sarah

Not really, actually. It's too much of a pain to have people get the definition straight half the time.

I just pull words out of a sack when I need them.

211 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:58:03pm

re: #209 Killgore Trout

Did you know she isn't even a cook? I got drafted in late to the project to help with proofreading and learned she just did it out of the goodness of her heart and the love of the lgf community.

I proofread too. Loved how manners was so pissed that she was missed from the first book that she demanded and received a special note. Sorry, that chick was mean, and peeps cowered. Ah, the shitty old days.

212 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:58:31pm

Have a good memory.

213 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:00:09pm

re: #211 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

I proofread too. Loved how manners was so pissed that she was missed from the first book that she demanded and received a special note. Sorry, that chick was mean, and peeps cowered. Ah, the shitty old days.

I loved Mandy, she was so base and hateful it was infinitely entertaining.

I did the proofreading thing too.

214 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:02:00pm

Shh! I'm watching Storage Wars.

215 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:05:22pm

re: #214 Cathartic Expression

Shh! I'm watching Storage Wars.

I HAVE a storage unit with all of my worldly possessions - ESP my kitchen - that I miss so much. That show has made all of us prompt payers no doubt. They would love my unit, the movers packed it in like an artistic puzzle. SIGH...

216 Achilles Tang  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:06:25pm
217 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:07:39pm

re: #215 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

I HAVE a storage unit with all of my worldly possessions - ESP my kitchen - that I miss so much. That show has made all of us prompt payers no doubt. They would love my unit, the movers packed it in like an artistic puzzle. SIGH...

I had my stuff in a locker for 3 years. I purposely buried my expensive stuff in the back in case of break-in.

218 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:10:46pm

re: #217 Cathartic Expression

I had my stuff in a locker for 3 years. I purposely buried my expensive stuff in the back in case of break-in.

Well it's been a little over a yr. I hope to hell I get to my own place this sept - my goal.

219 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:11:10pm

re: #216 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

Now this is a neat clip. Wait for the punch line.

In every crowd, someone clowns in front of the camera...Dear god, I'm the missing link.

220 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:12:22pm

re: #218 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

Well it's been a little over a yr. I hope to hell I get to my own place this sept - my goal.

It's been a year? Damn, does time go by fast.

221 freetoken  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:13:49pm

Have I ever mentioned how low of an opinion I have of NPR (or at least many programs made by NPR)?

223 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:16:23pm

re: #214 Cathartic Expression

Shh! I'm watching Storage Wars.

Heh. One of my guilty pleasures on TV. It's hilarious.

224 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:16:32pm

re: #221 freetoken

Have I ever mentioned how low of an opinion I have of NPR (or at least many programs made by NPR)?

Not today.

225 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:17:13pm

re: #221 freetoken

Have I ever mentioned how low of an opinion I have of NPR (or at least many programs made by NPR)?

Well maybe this isn't up to par, but via twitter I saw this and all things considered did a report on it today. So fun, hilarious.

Watch

[Link: rookiemag.com...]

226 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:18:34pm

re: #216 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

Now this is a neat clip. Wait for the punch line.

I'll stick with the turtle.

227 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:19:01pm

re: #213 Cathartic Expression

I loved Mandy, she was so base and hateful it was infinitely entertaining.

I did the proofreading thing too.

Same here on Vol. 2. Got me an advance copy. Still bought the book though. It's a lot thinner than what I had printed out at Office Depot on 8x11 single sided.

228 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:22:04pm

re: #227 Bubblehead II

Same here on Vol. 2. Got me an advance copy. Still bought the book though. It's a lot thinner than what I had printed out at Office Depot on 8x11 single sided.

I bought a copy too, even though I had an advance copy. It was the right thing to do.

229 wrenchwench  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:24:36pm

re: #222 Gus

Mexican Mitt Romney for President (Music Video)

[Embedded content]

¡Ajua!

230 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:24:56pm

re: #227 Bubblehead II

re: #228 Cathartic Expression

Ok mines in storage so I have a year leeway, but what have you made? I did the memorable Rightwingconspirators shrimp once. To die for.

231 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:28:34pm

re: #230 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

re: #228 Cathartic Expression

Ok mines in storage so I have a year leeway, but what have you made? I did the memorable Rightwingconspirators shrimp once. To die for.

I don't know, I handed the book off to the wife.

232 wrenchwench  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:30:39pm

Adam Kokesh has gone 'round the bend. Even the Paulbots don't want him.

In his video program called Adam vs. The Man this week former New Mexico Congressional candidate Adam Kokesh read a letter from an unnamed young man from Mississippi who brings up the idea of assassinating Republican front-runner Mitt Romney to help Ron Paul get the presidential nomination and to stop what he says is an inevitable war with Iran.

Kokesh in the video stresses that he's not endorsing the idea , but says, "I cannot deny that the thought hasn't crossed my mind as well as so many other libertarians and Ron Paul supporters of late."

He then proceeds into a lengthy monologue in which he justifies his conclusion that violence against Romney wouldn't be a good thing.

He ends the video saying, "Whatever you do, please, please, please, don't forward this video to the Secret Service."

[...]

Compare the photo to the video of him. The man is not well.

233 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:33:37pm

re: #229 wrenchwench

¡Ajua!

I am the Juan percent!

234 wrenchwench  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:35:59pm

re: #233 Gus

I am the Juan percent!

Adios, amigos. Hasta mañana!

235 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:36:44pm

re: #233 Gus

I am the Juan percent!

I down dinged you twice, but it self negated and resulted in an up ding.

236 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:37:32pm

re: #235 Cathartic Expression

I down dinged you twice, but it self negated and resulted in an up ding.

Gurglededoda.

237 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:38:51pm

re: #228 Cathartic Expression

Of course. Proceeds went to our Vets.

238 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:40:56pm

re: #236 Gus

Gurglededoda.

Say what?

239 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:42:11pm

Hey, I didn't know that Robert Stacy McCain, in addition to being a racist troglodyte, was also a "Bill Ayers wrote Obama's memoir" conspiracy loon.

[Link: theothermccain.com...]

240 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:42:47pm

re: #230 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

I tried a couple of things from Vol. 2 the Chicken Fried Rice by Sanscran1948 on page 77 and the Ritzy Lemon Fish by Cape Coddah on page 73.

Anybody do my Lasagna De Bubblehead II on page 92?

241 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:43:23pm

And Instapundit linked to that moronic post.

Wow. Right wing blogs getting even crazier.

242 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:44:25pm

re: #240 Bubblehead II

I tried a couple of things from Vol. 2 the Chicken Fried Rice by Sanscran1948 on page 77 and the Ritzy Lemon Fish by Cape Coddah on page 73.

Anybody do my Lasagna De Bubblehead II on page 92?

I will!! Anything de bubblehead sounds worthy!

243 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:44:28pm

Hey Doofus, First Amendment means you can put verses from the Koran or from Atheists on signs too!

244 jaunte  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:46:12pm

re: #243 Learned Mother of Zion

One we won't be seeing on the welcome sign:

"But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."

245 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:46:18pm

re: #238 Cathartic Expression

Say what?

Nuttin. Just had a pizza and feeling low.

246 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:47:55pm

re: #241 Charles Johnson

And Instapundit linked to that moronic post.

Wow. Right wing blogs getting even crazier.

RS McCain was Tweeting to something at Prison Planet or Infowars. I forgot which. Weird people.

247 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:47:57pm

re: #245 Gus

Nuttin. Just had a pizza and feeling low.

I just had a pita crap.

248 freetoken  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:49:06pm

Yes, that nasty, lesbianism-inducing mystery organization called The Girl Scouts will finally come under scrutiny by the Holy See:


Girl Scouts under scrutiny from Catholic bishops

Long a lightning rod for conservative criticism, the Girl Scouts of the USA are now facing their highest-level challenge yet: An official inquiry by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.
At issue are concerns about program materials that some Catholics find offensive, as well as assertions that the Scouts associate with other groups espousing stances that conflict with church teaching. The Scouts, who have numerous parish-sponsored troops, deny many of the claims and defend their alliances.

The inquiry coincides with the Scouts' 100th anniversary celebrations and follows a chain of other controversies.
Earlier this year, legislators in Indiana and Alaska publicly called the Scouts into question, and the organization was berated in a series aired by a Catholic broadcast network. Last year, the Scouts angered some conservatives by accepting into a Colorado troop a 7-year-old transgender child who was born a boy but was being raised as a girl.

[...]

The new inquiry will be conducted by the bishops' Committee on Laity, Marriage, Family Life and Youth. It will look into the Scouts' "possible problematic relationships with other organizations" and various "problematic" program materials, according to a letter sent by the committee chairman, Bishop Kevin Rhoades of Fort Wayne, Ind., to his fellow bishops.

[...]

Girl Scout controversies surfaced recently in two state legislatures.
In Indiana, Rep. Bob Morris wrote to his colleagues depicting the Girl Scouts as a radical group that promotes abortions and homosexuality. He later apologized for "reactionary and inflammatory" comments, but stood by his contention that the Scouts have links with Planned Parenthood.

In Alaska, Rep. Wes Keller — before deciding whether to support a resolution honoring the Girl Scouts — said he needed to investigate information "floating around the Internet" about the alleged Planned Parenthood link. Keller later said he was convinced the rumors were baseless; the resolution passed unanimously.

[...]

249 freetoken  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:49:54pm

And of course we all know the Bishops' long standing concern for children and their sexuality makes them the authority here.

250 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:50:40pm

re: #247 Cathartic Expression

I just had a pita crap.

I'll bet you just falafel after that.

251 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:53:50pm

Well, I'll give credit to the stalkers who've done a closer reading of Mohammed Ansar's writtings.

Hurling truth against falsehood

Today we have the global media network, main stream media, corporate oligarchies and capitalist free markets economies. All perceive a threat by the advent of Islam. We have no conclusive proof of who committed 9/11, why the towers were ‘pulled’, why airplanes were modified, why steel melted at 800 degrees not 2,300 or the relevance of 'Operation Northwoods’. The pleas of the families for an inquiry are denied and the evidence has in the majority, been completely destroyed. However, any straw poll will almost entirely state it was the Moozlims.

I retract anything nice I said about him earlier. He's a massive dick and a radical loon.

252 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:53:53pm

re: #240 Bubblehead II

I tried a couple of things from Vol. 2 the Chicken Fried Rice by Sanscran1948 on page 77 and the Ritzy Lemon Fish by Cape Coddah on page 73.

Anybody do my Lasagna De Bubblehead II on page 92?

I have done a couple of recipes from the first book and 5-6 from Vol II. I don't think I did the lasagna though.

If there's a Vol III I will submit my slow cooker pulled pork recipe. Got a batch of dry rubbed pork shoulder currently sitting in the fridge for making some this weekend.

253 Daniel Ballard  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:54:56pm
re: #228 Cathartic Expression

Ok mines in storage so I have a year leeway, but what have you made? I did the memorable Rightwingconspirators shrimp once. To die for.

Why thank you very much.

254 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:55:39pm

re: #242 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

I will!! Anything de bubblehead sounds worthy!

It's good, but high in cholesterol (lots of dairy). I am asked to cook it for the Dept. Pot Luck when we have one (as well as my meatballs, but that is another recipe). The GM will always show up if she knows I brought either.

255 freetoken  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:56:23pm

Since I'm on the topic of religion, one bit of news that has been popping up the past week, which has almost universally been misrepresented by hacks of all stripes:

Archaeologists Claim They're One Step Closer to Proving the Bible True

A bundle of new discoveries on a rocky hill in Israel may upend the community of Biblical historians struggling to understand Judah in the time of King David. Professor Yosef Garfinkel from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and a team of archaeologists have been excavating the ancient city of Khirbet Qeiyafa, and have recently unearthed a trio of cultic shrines that date back to the time of King David. Along with stone and metal tools, pottery and art objects, the site provides the first evidence of a cult at the time of King David. Based on the archaeologists' analysis, the religious practices of the cult also match the traditions described in the Bible.

[...]

Fundamentalists (both Christian and Jewish) have jumped on Garfinkel's claims as some sort of great vindication of their literalist beliefs in the OT/Torah.

Only problem is, the actual archeological finds don't support the fundamentalists and even probably illustrates how polytheistic the region really was ca. 1000BCE.

One place to start for a more critical analysis:
The Qeiyafa Discovery and King David: The Da Vinci Connection

256 funky chicken  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:57:03pm

re: #103 funky chicken

Former Romney Classmate Describes ‘Bullying Supreme’ – A ‘Pack of Dogs’ Who Targeted ‘Different’ Boy

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

I just showed this to my conservative husband, who graduated from a military academy and is still active duty, and his response was, "shit, now what do I do? I can't really vote for Obama."

Real men don't like bullies.

257 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:57:06pm

I have a bunch of recipes in the LGF cookbooks. Try the Super Awesome To Die For Cheesecake!

Thank you very much, I'll be here all week!

258 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:58:40pm

re: #248 freetoken

Yes, that nasty, lesbianism-inducing mystery organization called The Girl Scouts will finally come under scrutiny by the Holy See:

Girl Scouts under scrutiny from Catholic bishops

My girlfriend and her 10 yr old daughter are aghast. And will fight these old men. What assholes.

259 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:59:06pm

re: #255 freetoken

When I find both halves of Dumbledore's wand, I'll prove Harry Potter was true.

260 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:00:58pm

re: #257 Learned Mother of Zion

I have a bunch of recipes in the LGF cookbooks. Try the Super Awesome To Die For Cheesecake!

Thank you very much, I'll be here all week!

Vol. number and page please.

Starts digging around for Vol. 1

261 Achilles Tang  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:01:19pm

re: #255 freetoken

I notice the reference, without hesitation, to a "cult". Presumably meaning they weren't really Christians.

262 freetoken  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:01:58pm

Sean Hannity's favorite artist certainly is in the mainstream of their movement:

[...] This son of Satan has called judgment upon the greatest nation in history. Remember: Woe to a nation who call evil good and good evil…. Also, we who remain silent will be called cowards. See Rev. 21:8. I will not stand before God on Judgment Day and be called a coward. I will speak out against the evil that has/is destroying my beloved country. Men fought and died for this? Our forefathers would be horrified if they knew what one man had done to destroy the Constitution in just 3 years and not one person in Congress dared to say a word or stop him. [...]

Super-powered Son of Satan destroys the Constitution single handedly in just 3 years.

That's better than X-ray vision.

263 freetoken  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:03:16pm

re: #261 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

The word "cult" in strict religious terminology, and not the popular use, comes from the word "cultus".

264 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:03:48pm

re: #251 Killgore Trout

Well, I'll give credit to the stalkers who've done a closer reading of Mohammed Ansar's writtings.

Hurling truth against falsehood

I retract anything nice I said about him earlier. He's a massive dick and a radical loon.

Yes, he's a loon. That being said, "interesting" credit or lead you have there.

O_o

265 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:04:00pm

re: #262 freetoken

Sean Hannity's favorite artist certainly is in the mainstream of their movement:

Super-powered Son of Satan destroys the Constitution single handedly in just 3 years.

That's better than X-ray vision.

Best super powers:
1) flying
2) invisibility
3) x-ray vision

266 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:04:24pm

re: #260 Bubblehead II

Vol. number and page please.

Starts digging around for Vol. 1

Vol. II p. 124.

267 freetoken  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:05:20pm

re: #265 Cathartic Expression

Where's Constitution-Destroying rank?

268 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:06:09pm

re: #251 Killgore Trout

Whatever. I'm not responsible for the opinions of everyone who follows me on Twitter.

But I'm not surprised to find that, as I predicted, they're now digging into Mohammed Ansar's posts in order to smear me.

They don't deserve "credit" for this.

269 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:07:25pm

re: #264 Gus

Yes, he's a loon. That being said, "interesting" credit or lead you have there.

O_o

Seriously. The stalker blog is being referenced to sustain KT's point. What next? Guest interview with rodan?

270 Daniel Ballard  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:07:35pm

Speaking of stalkers, is gus_807 one of them?

271 Achilles Tang  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:07:53pm

re: #263 freetoken

The word "cult" in strict religious terminology, and not the popular use, comes from the word "cultus".

The article, and others, is written for popular consumption. I guess cults are respectable if they are dead cults./

272 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:07:56pm

re: #270 Daniel Ballard

Speaking of stalkers, is gus_807 one of them?

Yes.

273 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:08:23pm

re: #272 Gus

Yes.

Only because he's 5 better than you. :)

274 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:08:41pm

re: #265 Cathartic Expression

Best super powers:
1) flying
2) invisibility
3) x-ray vision

X-Ray vision doesn't even rate being in the top 10.

Fricking amateurs.

275 Daniel Ballard  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:08:57pm

re: #272 Gus

Geez. Blocked. I am not skilled at twitter. LGF and FB are about all the time I got for online.

276 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:09:00pm

Mmmm Peach sorbet... a frozen sliver of heaven.

277 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:09:08pm

re: #267 freetoken

Where's Constitution-Destroying rank?

Since destroying the Constitution as a fundamental belief system would be almost impossible, yet quite easy to destroy the paper form, it would be both a wave and a particle near the top and near the bottom.

278 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:09:25pm

re: #270 Daniel Ballard

Speaking of stalkers, is gus_807 one of them?

Yes. There are three or four different Twitter handles based on Gus's username. That's one of them.

279 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:09:37pm

re: #274 Kragar

X-Ray vision doesn't even rate being in the top 10.

Fricking amateurs.

Unless you live next door to Sandra Bullock.

280 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:09:42pm

re: #270 Daniel Ballard

Speaking of stalkers, is gus_807 one of them?

Yup.

281 freetoken  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:11:19pm

re: #271 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

Inevitably the word "cult" throws lots of readers for a loop.

But, when the article is quoting from one of the historians or archeologists, I take the meaning of words to be those used in academia and not in popular thought.

When speaking of ancient Israel/Canaan, one can speak for example of the Yahweh cult, which was the influx of practitioners who referred to the head of the pantheon not by the really old name of "El" but by the new name.

282 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:11:21pm

re: #279 darthstar

Unless you live next door to Sandra Bullock.

Thats why shape shifting and hypnotic control rate higher than X-Ray vision.

283 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:11:52pm

re: #274 Kragar

X-Ray vision doesn't even rate being in the top 10.

Fricking amateurs.

You wouldn't say that if you had that power at a lingerie football game.

284 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:12:02pm

re: #258 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

Gee, I wonder why these, ahem, old, white men are so worried about the Girl Scouts.

Empowering Girls

In Girl Scouts, girls discover the fun, friendship, and power of girls together. Through a myriad of enriching experiences, such as extraordinary field trips, sports skill-building clinics, community service projects, cultural exchanges, and environmental stewardships, girls grow courageous and strong. Girl Scouting helps girls develop their full individual potential; relate to others with increasing understanding, skill, and respect; develop values to guide their actions and provide the foundation for sound decision-making; and contribute to the improvement of society through their abilities, leadership skills, and cooperation with others.

This we can not stand for and will therefore oppose.

285 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:12:33pm

re: #283 Cathartic Expression

You wouldn't say that if you had that power at a lingerie football game.

Who wants to see Peyton Manning's lingerie?

286 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:12:37pm

re: #275 Daniel Ballard

Geez. Blocked. I am not skilled at twitter. LGF and FB are about all the time I got for online.

'Gus_802' is LGF's Gus. Any other Twitter usernames starting with 'Gus_' are stalkers.

287 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:13:22pm

re: #284 Bubblehead II

Gee, I wonder why these, ahem, old, white men are so worried about the Girl Scouts.

Empowering Girls

In Girl Scouts, girls discover the fun, friendship, and power of girls together. Through a myriad of enriching experiences, such as extraordinary field trips, sports skill-building clinics, community service projects, cultural exchanges, and environmental stewardships, girls grow courageous and strong. Girl Scouting helps girls develop their full individual potential; relate to others with increasing understanding, skill, and respect; develop values to guide their actions and provide the foundation for sound decision-making; and contribute to the improvement of society through their abilities, leadership skills, and cooperation with others.

This we can not stand for and will therefore oppose.

Cut the head off at the base.

288 Daniel Ballard  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:13:27pm

re: #278 Charles Johnson

Thanks. I'll go back and find that stalker list. Time to take out the trash.

289 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:13:42pm

re: #286 Charles Johnson

'Gus_802' is LGF's Gus. Any other Twitter usernames starting with 'Gus_' are stalkers.

Looks like the usual morons have spent all day trolling Joshua Holland. Might have been for several days actually.

290 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:13:58pm

re: #266 Learned Mother of Zion

/// You trying to clog my arteries?

291 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:15:02pm

re: #284 Bubblehead II

Gee, I wonder why these, ahem, old, white men are so worried about the Girl Scouts.

Empowering Girls

In Girl Scouts, girls discover the fun, friendship, and power of girls together. Through a myriad of enriching experiences, such as extraordinary field trips, sports skill-building clinics, community service projects, cultural exchanges, and environmental stewardships, girls grow courageous and strong. Girl Scouting helps girls develop their full individual potential; relate to others with increasing understanding, skill, and respect; develop values to guide their actions and provide the foundation for sound decision-making; and contribute to the improvement of society through their abilities, leadership skills, and cooperation with others.

This we can not stand for and will therefore oppose.

Weird and sad, but these girls will learn more about leadership and themselves by dealing with it. Sorry bishops, foiled again.

292 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:20:21pm

He's dead, they're alive.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

293 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:20:37pm

re: #285 darthstar

Who wants to see Peyton Manning's lingerie?

Image: lingerie-league.jpg

294 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:25:10pm

re: #292 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

He's dead, they're alive.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Good.

295 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:27:16pm

re: #292 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

re: #294 Cathartic Expression

Too bad the SOB couldn't have eaten a bullet before he killed their sister and mom.

296 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:29:22pm

Bad bad people.

297 Kronocide  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:37:43pm

LOL (commenting about Romney Bully story)

298 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:39:04pm

re: #297 Kronocide

Says the man who fantasizes about beating up kids on a subway train.

299 Simply Sarah  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:39:17pm

re: #297 Kronocide

LOL (commenting about Romney Bully story)

Stay classy, Dan.

300 jaunte  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:40:21pm

re: #297 Kronocide

Trust Dan Riehl to land stolidly on the wrong side of any human issue.

301 jaunte  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:40:55pm

re: #300 jaunte

The "load" star.

302 Kronocide  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:41:01pm

The only question is: was Dan bullied or was he a bully in High School?

303 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:42:40pm

re: #297 Kronocide

[Embedded content] LOL

Would be interesting to postulate Mitt's assault of this guy with Florida's SYG law.

304 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:45:51pm

re: #297 Kronocide

Guarantee you he was bullied, if not by classmates, by his father. Psych 101 - the origin of hate. See Breitbart.

305 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:47:31pm

So, any new stalker blog references?

306 Kronocide  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:48:44pm

Double Down Douche

307 Kronocide  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:50:17pm
308 Kronocide  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:53:38pm

Double Down Dan... fits like a glove.

309 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 6:59:32pm

re: #49 prairiefire

"Some of them might have gone too far." This is flippin dy-no-mite. 10 point drop among independents, guaranteed.[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Forget that, this is death knell.

310 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:00:45pm

re: #12 elizajane

[dons art historian hat] 20th-century dictators have a solid history of supporting unsubtle, propagandistic art as an antidote to nasty, subversive modernist art. I know it's uncool to make analogies to Hitler so I won't, but can we bring in Stalin and Mao? The typology is pretty universal -- ideologically twisted dictatorship = bad, McNaughtony art and suppression/destruction of other cultural forms. [removes art historian hat and returns to being cross with Mitt Romney]

Those were my thoughts too!

There is a difference between fine art (*ahem* Art Major Here) and Propaganda.

311 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:01:40pm

re: #284 Bubblehead II

Gee, I wonder why these, ahem, old, white men are so worried about the Girl Scouts.

Empowering Girls

In Girl Scouts, girls discover the fun, friendship, and power of girls together. Through a myriad of enriching experiences, such as extraordinary field trips, sports skill-building clinics, community service projects, cultural exchanges, and environmental stewardships, girls grow courageous and strong. Girl Scouting helps girls develop their full individual potential; relate to others with increasing understanding, skill, and respect; develop values to guide their actions and provide the foundation for sound decision-making; and contribute to the improvement of society through their abilities, leadership skills, and cooperation with others.

This we can not stand for and will therefore oppose.

The very idea of teaching girls Leadership Skills makes the organization suspect in the eyes of the Patriarchs.

312 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:01:49pm

And how is everyone this evening?

313 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:01:54pm

When reality stars attack

JWoww Slams Bristol Palin: "Keep Your Uneducated, Ignorant Mouth Shut"

After Palin, 21, wrote a heated blog post about President Barack Obama's recent support of same-sex marriage, Farley, 26, dissed the politician's daughter via Twitter.

"Bristol should keep her uneducated, ignorant mouth shut. If you're living in the past you wouldn't have a kid without marriage. Hypocrite. It's 2012!" Farley wrote. "My best friend will get married one day and not just have civil union with his man. Stop hating people."

314 ProGunLiberal  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:02:29pm

re: #313 Kragar

WOW!

I would say that is the pot calling the kettle black. But she has a point.

315 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:04:02pm

re: #213 Cathartic Expression

I loved Mandy, she was so base and hateful it was infinitely entertaining.

I did the proofreading thing too.

And narcissistic.

316 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:04:20pm

re: #292 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

He's dead, they're alive.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

I haven't been able to figure-out exactly what this story is all about --

glad the girls are safe tho.

317 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:04:45pm

re: #309 prairiefire

Forget that, this is death knell.

I come home & update the romnyite here. He said, it's over. But we are not talking about the old and young mean folks. They dont care. But the youngers? They DO.

318 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:05:37pm

re: #292 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

He's dead, they're alive.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

What a relief!

319 erik_t  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:05:41pm

re: #309 prairiefire

Forget that, this is death knell.

I don't believe there's such a thing anymore.

320 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:05:53pm

re: #302 Kronocide

The only question is: was Dan bullied or was he a bully in High School?

They aren't exclusive.

321 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:06:23pm

re: #319 erik_t

I don't believe there's such a thing anymore.

ZOMBIE REAGAN VOTE FOR MORE TAX CUTS SO THE UPPERCLASS CAN AFFOARD MORE BRAINNNSSSSSS!

322 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:08:19pm

re: #319 erik_t

I don't believe there's such a thing anymore.

I do, his numbers are going to go down...

323 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:08:41pm

re: #313 Kragar

When reality stars attack

JWoww Slams Bristol Palin: "Keep Your Uneducated, Ignorant Mouth Shut"

LOL, but please. Sarahpac is paying for bristols ghostwriter to attack that black man she hates . Bristol just needs a check. Omg, they make me puke. Thanks senator McCain!!

324 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:08:52pm

re: #311 ggt

The very idea of teaching girls Leadership Skills makes the organization suspect in the eyes of the Patriarchs.

Of course. Give them an education beyond basic cooking and housekeeping and well, they just might get uppity, you know, like those Nuns did.

No Sarc intended

325 ProGunLiberal  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:09:39pm

re: #323 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

The Palin Family are a bunch of ill-behaved trailer trash.

326 Four More Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:09:45pm

I've been involved in hijinks. I've pulled off pranks. This is neither of those.

Been on the other end of bullying, though. This reeks of it.

I only say this because I was listening to Hannity this afternoon dismiss this as just a silly "prank."

Douchebag.

327 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:09:51pm

re: #313 Kragar

When reality stars attack

JWoww Slams Bristol Palin: "Keep Your Uneducated, Ignorant Mouth Shut"

Okay, I never thought I'd say this but "Thank you, J-Woww." Perhaps it's a bit of a low blow to go for the fact she wasn't married when she had her kid but if Bristol is going to attack Obama for saying his wife and daughters influenced him to believe in equal rights, then I don't feel too bad for her. Not to mention Bristol's pathetic insinuation that Glee had something to do with it. And you know even if it did, so what, the Obama girls apparently realize that gay and lesbian Americans are citizens and should be treated with equality under the law. It's hardly a radical position.

328 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:10:01pm

re: #310 ggt

Those were my thoughts too!

There is a difference between fine art (*ahem* Art Major Here) and Propaganda.

Hey Art, how the heck are you?

Love your name, BTW.

329 funky chicken  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:10:47pm

re: #286 Charles Johnson

'Gus_802' is LGF's Gus. Any other Twitter usernames starting with 'Gus_' are stalkers.

These people really need to find a hobby or something.

330 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:11:07pm

re: #329 funky chicken

These people really need to find a hobby or something.

Hate seems to be their hobby

331 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:11:39pm

re: #328 Cathartic Expression

Hey Art, how the heck are you?

Love your name, BTW.

Yeah, I don't know what my parents were thinking. They named my brother Progaganda Minor Here.

:0

332 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:14:05pm

re: #316 ggt

I haven't been able to figure-out exactly what this story is all about --

glad the girls are safe tho.

I swear Anderson Cooper stepped into ghoul land - media money - when right after he tweeted that dude wasn't dead, tune into ac360.

This is when I turrn, what, socialist? But the almighty strive for $$$ is killing everything.

333 Talking Point Detective  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:14:45pm

Off topic - but as a Philly boy, this has to be done:

334 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:15:20pm

re: #312 ggt

And how is everyone this evening?

Tired. Going to fix some herbal tea, pet the cat, and then organize some papers for this weekend.

335 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:15:31pm

I still can't figure-out what this how this is all connected.

He thought the girls were his daughters--so he killed their mother and her husband? With the help of his mother-in-law and wife and they gave police information after he left with the girls?

He spent the night in their house to help them move?

It is so confusing

336 Interesting Times  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:15:37pm
337 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:15:55pm

re: #326 Assemble!

I've been involved in hijinks. I've pulled off pranks. This is neither of those.

Been on the other end of bullying, though. This reeks of it.

I only say this because I was listening to Hannity this afternoon dismiss this as just a silly "prank."

Douchebag.

Anything that can be construed as a product of liberal, progressive thinking will be rejected out of hand, so anti-bullying, as a touchy-feely leftist, elitist influenced idea has to be not only wrong, but contemptible.

338 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:16:54pm

re: #336 Interesting Times

[Embedded content]

He is the snobby jerk that we all hated in high school that could whatever the hell he wanted with no repercussions.

339 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:17:06pm

re: #330 ggt

Hate seems to be their hobby

Quickly becoming their vocation.

340 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:17:31pm

re: #326 Assemble!

I've been involved in hijinks. I've pulled off pranks. This is neither of those.

Been on the other end of bullying, though. This reeks of it.

I only say this because I was listening to Hannity this afternoon dismiss this as just a silly "prank."

Douchebag.

So if a rowdy bunch of teens cornered Hannity and shaved his head he'd just laugh and not try to have them charged with assault? Just askin'!
//

341 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:17:46pm

re: #327 HappyWarrior

Okay, I never thought I'd say this but "Thank you, J-Woww." Perhaps it's a bit of a low blow to go for the fact she wasn't married when she had her kid but if Bristol is going to attack Obama for saying his wife and daughters influenced him to believe in equal rights, then I don't feel too bad for her. Not to mention Bristol's pathetic insinuation that Glee had something to do with it. And you know even if it did, so what, the Obama girls apparently realize that gay and lesbian Americans are citizens and should be treated with equality under the law. It's hardly a radical position.

Ah but to the Wasilla Warriors it is.

Hypocrites & haters!

342 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:17:56pm

cuteness alert!

The one cub on the far right in the 1st picture looks like he is sad he didn't get any ice cream.

343 jaunte  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:18:44pm


Dan Riehl, doomed to relive his douchiness in Groundhog Day perpetuity.

344 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:19:00pm

re: #341 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

Ah but to the Wasilla Warriors it is.

Hypocrites & haters!

Because, like Iran, there are no LGBT in Alaska?

hmm, get's mighty cold up there.

345 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:19:03pm

re: #333 Talking Point Detective

Off topic - but as a Philly boy, this has to be done:

[Embedded content]

I presume that indicates the 76ers have taken the Bulls by the horns?

346 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:19:05pm

re: #341 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

Ah but to the Wasilla Warriors it is.

Hypocrites & haters!

Everything's radical to that loon. Everything except her and her separatist husband who are everything good and patriotic about America.

347 erik_t  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:20:58pm

re: #343 jaunte

[Embedded content]
Dan Riehl, doomed to relive his douchiness in Groundhog Day perpetuity.

I did some really shitty stuff in seventh grade that I do, in fact, regret.

You, uh, you just keep doin' your thing, Dan.

348 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:21:46pm

You can always count on right wing bloggers for moral relativism. Oh, this is exactly like blah blah. The fact of the matter is the other guys who took part in Romney's crazy mob felt guilty and the one felt guilty enough to apologize to the guy years later. It wasn't a mere prank. A mere prank is what my hallmates did when they messed around with our cushions and spelt out their names in tortillas. This was bullying and harassment on Romney's part.

349 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:21:47pm

re: #347 erik_t

I did some really shitty stuff in seventh grade that I do, in fact, regret.

You, uh, you just keep doin' your thing, Dan.

I was too busy trying to be invisible.

350 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:22:12pm

Palin's new home of Arizona has their own version of the Justice Dept suit against Sheriff Joe:

Justice Department Sues Sheriff Joe; Defiant Arpaio Says ‘Clean Your Own House’

351 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:23:05pm

re: #350 ggt

Palin's new home of Arizona has their own version of the Justice Dept suit against Sheriff Joe:

Justice Department Sues Sheriff Joe; Defiant Arpaio Says ‘Clean Your Own House’

I look forward to the day where Sheriff Joe is Inmate Joe. That guy's a crook who's gotten away with running that county like his own personal fiefdom for too long.

352 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:23:08pm

re: #349 Cathartic Expression

I was too busy trying to be invisible.

I was just enduring it.

I decided in 1st grade that Catholic School was something to be endured. I think it made a stronger person.

353 erik_t  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:23:19pm

re: #349 Cathartic Expression

I was too busy trying to be invisible.

I thought only the guy on the very very very bottom of the totem pole did that. In most other cases, shit, as they say, flows downhill.

354 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:24:39pm

re: #351 HappyWarrior

I look forward to the day where Sheriff Joe is Inmate Joe. That guy's a crook who's gotten away with running that county like his own personal fiefdom for too long.

Yeah, I know.

Because white people settled the area 1000 years ago and no one else should be allowed to move in.

/gah

355 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:25:09pm

re: #352 ggt

I was just enduring it.

I decided in 1st grade that Catholic School was something to be endured. I think it made a stronger person.

Good stuff.

I wasn't so fortunate.

356 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:25:43pm

re: #344 ggt

Because, like Iran, there are no LGBT in Alaska?

hmm, get's mighty cold up there.

There are some long, dark nights as well.

357 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:26:20pm

re: #354 ggt

Yeah, I know.

Because white people settled the area 1000 years ago and no one else should be allowed to move in.

/gah

He's such a publicity junkie too. Did you see where he spent a bunch of taxpayer dollars showing up in a tank with Steven Seagal to arrest a suspected cockfighting ring? The only thing Joe Arpaio cares about is Joe Arpaio having this image of this tough on crime sheriff. And I haven't even started on his ridiculous birther crusade.

358 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:26:38pm

re: #353 erik_t

I thought only the guy on the very very very bottom of the totem pole did that. In most other cases, shit, as they say, flows downhill.

I was the weirdest of the weird.

During grade three and four I had a friend who protected me, but the rest of the time I was a punching bag.

359 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:26:51pm

re: #355 Cathartic Expression

Good stuff.

I wasn't so fortunate.

A few months ago my Mom asked me what I thought of the grade/middle school I attended. I told her I hated it and was scared most of the time.

She was shocked. She LOVED going to school and couldn't imagine a better place for me.

She drank a lot then.

360 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:27:53pm

re: #357 HappyWarrior

He's such a publicity junkie too. Did you see where he spent a bunch of taxpayer dollars showing up in a tank with Steven Seagal to arrest a suspected cockfighting ring? The only thing Joe Arpaio cares about is Joe Arpaio having this image of this tough on crime sheriff. And I haven't even started on his ridiculous birther crusade.

Steven Seagal? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa!

Fat pseudo-martial arts master? hahahahahahahahaha

No, I didn't see it.

361 erik_t  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:28:22pm

My hipsterish French neighbors just bought a full-size van from a time zone away. It is sitting on a semi in front of my house.

Stereotypes broken.

362 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:28:41pm

re: #344 ggt

Because, like Iran, there are no LGBT in Alaska?

hmm, get's mighty cold up there.

No one they would knowingly associate with. Alaska is a free for all, cept the religion is ruining it.

363 jaunte  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:29:07pm

re: #361 erik_t

Scooby-Doo fans?

364 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:29:58pm

re: #363 jaunte

Scooby-Doo fans?

Or the A-Team was hard up for cash.

365 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:30:03pm

re: #358 Cathartic Expression

I was the weirdest of the weird.

During grade three and four I had a friend who protected me, but the rest of the time I was a punching bag.

I was never really bullied --I just hated everyone for being and I think they knew it. Kids generally left me alone. I had some friends who were in the same place I was. We hung out together on the play ground and waited for the bell to ring together. We read books.

I ignored everything and everyone that didn't have to do with grades and getting the hell out of there as fast as possible

366 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:30:04pm

re: #88 ArchangelMichael

6015 years. Based on that 4004 BC date they pulled out of their asses in the middle ages.

It wasn't the Middle Ages, it was the seventeenth century. And it wasn't exactly pulled out of asses, it was a rational attempt, given the history and science of the day, to figure out exactly when all of this stuff in the Bible was happening.

That it is being clung to now, by people who have much better information available to them, but can't fathom faith that coexists with rationality, is not exactly Bishop Ussher's fault.

367 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:30:18pm

TV's Frank via Facebook

"Bristol Palin says gay offspring will never know the pure Christian joy of getting knocked up when you're an unwed teen."

368 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:31:50pm

re: #365 ggt

I was never really bullied --I just hated everyone for being and I think they knew it. Kids generally left me alone. I had some friends who were in the same place I was. We hung out together on the play ground and waited for the bell to ring together. We read books.

I ignored everything and everyone that didn't have to do with grades and getting the hell out of there as fast as possible

In high school I spent most of my time in the library.

369 jaunte  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:32:58pm

re: #364 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Or the A-Team was hard up for cash.

[Link: www.tvshowsondvd.com...]

370 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:32:59pm

I'm still really pissed about the Rev Jesse Peterson's statement regarding giving women the right to vote.

I want to ask him if we should stop teaching them to read (like the Taliban?).

How would that sit with Booker T. Washington?

371 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:33:11pm

I remember thinking in High School "Anyone who says these are the best years of our life is full of shit."

372 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:33:39pm

re: #302 Kronocide

The only question is: was Dan bullied or was he a bully in High School?

My money is on bullied when younger & then a bully later on.

373 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:33:47pm

re: #327 HappyWarrior

Okay, I never thought I'd say this but "Thank you, J-Woww." Perhaps it's a bit of a low blow to go for the fact she wasn't married when she had her kid but if Bristol is going to attack Obama for saying his wife and daughters influenced him to believe in equal rights, then I don't feel too bad for her. Not to mention Bristol's pathetic insinuation that Glee had something to do with it. And you know even if it did, so what, the Obama girls apparently realize that gay and lesbian Americans are citizens and should be treated with equality under the law. It's hardly a radical position.

She's scolding an accomplished man more than twice her age for bad parenting, solely because she hates him for A. being a liberal and B. beating her mother in a fair fight. He can't tell her to fuck off, so I am glad that a girl her own age did it for him.

374 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:34:03pm

re: #360 ggt

Steven Seagal? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa!

Fat pseudo-martial arts master? hahahahahahahahaha

No, I didn't see it.

[Link: wonkette.com...]

375 RadicalModerate  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:34:03pm

re: #350 ggt

Palin's new home of Arizona has their own version of the Justice Dept suit against Sheriff Joe:

Justice Department Sues Sheriff Joe; Defiant Arpaio Says ‘Clean Your Own House’

I will be extremely happy when Sheriff Joe "Stormfront" Arpaio is behind bars for his MULTITUDE of criminal acts.

376 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:34:10pm

re: #368 Cathartic Expression

In high school I spent most of my time in the library.

Me, too! The librarian told me I should go for something in the drama dept. because I read so many plays, but I was too shy. In sumtotal, I had more conversations with various librarians than any teacher.

377 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:34:25pm

re: #368 Cathartic Expression

In high school I spent most of my time in the library.

High School was different. A larger group of kids --me more like me. But, then, I left Catholic School and went to Public High School. Life was much better.

378 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:35:40pm

re: #357 HappyWarrior

He's such a publicity junkie too. Did you see where he spent a bunch of taxpayer dollars showing up in a tank with Steven Seagal to arrest a suspected cockfighting ring? The only thing Joe Arpaio cares about is Joe Arpaio having this image of this tough on crime sheriff. And I haven't even started on his ridiculous birther crusade.

And again, he's making a huge retirement off of his notoriety. The new business model. Protecting and serving be damned.

379 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:35:53pm

re: #374 HappyWarrior

[Link: wonkette.com...]

Too frickin' funny!

380 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:36:03pm

re: #344 ggt

Because, like Iran, there are no LGBT in Alaska?

hmm, get's mighty cold up there.

And women are scarce.

381 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:37:27pm

re: #371 Kragar

I remember thinking in High School "Anyone who says these are the best years of our life is full of shit."

I agree, 20's was much better. Out of my parents house, had car and job and NO responsibilities past paying the rent on time.

Yes, go to work, go party, pass -out, wake-up go to mindless day job, rinse repeat.

Much better (although fuzzier) memories.

382 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:37:41pm

re: #380 SanFranciscoZionist

And women are scarce.

EXCELLENT POINT!

383 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:37:48pm

re: #360 ggt

Steven Seagal? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa!

Fat pseudo-martial arts master? hahahahahahahahaha

No, I didn't see it.

They killed 100 of this guys chickens. He's suing. They have reality show bank.

384 ProGunLiberal  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:38:17pm

re: #376 prairiefire

The teachers in High School took care of me emotionally.

Among the central teachers I had, I can only think of once when one got angry at me.

One day, after having a bad night, one of the nutty conservatives started yapping about abortion and crap. So I attacked her politics.

Then attacking her personality. She was broken up by it.

But the bullying I had up to that point stopped.

385 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:38:20pm

re: #373 SanFranciscoZionist

She's scolding an accomplished man more than twice her age for bad parenting, solely because she hates him for A. being a liberal and B. beating her mother in a fair fight. He can't tell her to fuck off, so I am glad that a girl her own age did it for him.

Yeah I don't expect him nor would I want him to respond to her. Real lame of her to call out his parenting like that not to mention she ignored that he said that he talked with his wife too. I wonder if Bristol thinks Dick Cheney's daughters watch Glee and that's why they're for gay marriage.

386 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:41:05pm

I had my roughest patch in middle school. Just a tough time to be a quiet kid who kept to himself and didn't adjust well to how friendships change during that time. I was never physically tormented probably because I've never been a small guy but I was picked on sure mostly for how I talked and just being unconventional. I was really shy through high school and probably my first two-three years of community college. When I transferred to GMU, I got better and as tacky as it sounds, turning 21 helped because I do like barhopping and making talk there over a drink. But I think I grew less afraid naturally too. Still have ways to go though.

387 Targetpractice  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:41:16pm

re: #371 Kragar

I remember thinking in High School "Anyone who says these are the best years of our life is full of shit."

A-fuckin'-men.

388 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:42:04pm

High school was strange for me. I went from the most affluent high school in the city living with my dad, to the least affluent school in the city living with my mom. While with my dad, during school hours I stayed away from the bullies by hiding in the library reading, and after school hanging with friends taking drugs. My marks were in the crapper.
At the poor school, there were no bullies and no drugs, and although every weekend was party time with lots of alcohol, my marks went way up.

389 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:42:19pm

re: #371 Kragar

I remember thinking in High School "Anyone who says these are the best years of our life is full of shit."

I quit, got my GED, then onto 4 year UF degree. High school was hell.

390 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:43:06pm

re: #385 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don't expect him nor would I want him to respond to her. Real lame of her to call out his parenting like that not to mention she ignored that he said that he talked with his wife too. I wonder if Bristol thinks Dick Cheney's daughters watch Glee and that's why they're for gay marriage.

He can't and shouldn't respond, but it's tacky. Especially after how positive and sane he was about her pregnancy, a courtesy no one in her family would have extended to anyone connected with him.

391 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:43:37pm

re: #381 ggt

I agree, 20's was much better. Out of my parents house, had car and job and NO responsibilities past paying the rent on time.

Yes, go to work, go party, pass -out, wake-up go to mindless day job, rinse repeat.

Much better (although fuzzier) memories.

Did I mention --shopping for shoes?

My Mom and Dad were the miserly type --Depression Era kids. The idea of buying something you didn't absolutely need and couldn't borrow was a sin to them.

I learned the wonderful pass-time of shopping while in my 20's. sigh!

392 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:44:36pm

This is one of the funniest things I've read in days. One of the girls from Jersey Shore ripped into Bristol Palin for criticizing President Obama:

JWoww Slams Bristol Palin: "Keep Your Uneducated, Ignorant Mouth Shut"

Jenni "JWoww" Farley has never been shy about voicing her opinions, as Bristol Palin learned firsthand Thursday.

After Palin, 21, wrote a heated blog post about President Barack Obama's recent support of same-sex marriage, Farley, 26, dissed the politician's daughter via Twitter.

"Bristol should keep her uneducated, ignorant mouth shut. If you're living in the past you wouldn't have a kid without marriage. Hypocrite. It's 2012!" Farley wrote. "My best friend will get married one day and not just have civil union with his man. Stop hating people."

I never thought I'd see the day when someone from Jersey Shore was right about something. Haha.

393 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:44:41pm

re: #388 Cathartic Expression

High school was strange for me. I went from the most affluent high school in the city living with my dad, to the least affluent school in the city living with my mom. While with my dad, during school hours I stayed away from the bullies by hiding in the library reading, and after school hanging with friends taking drugs. My marks were in the crapper.
At the poor school, there were no bullies and no drugs, and although every weekend was party time with lots of alcohol, my marks went way up.

My Freshman year was at an affluent HS --then we moved to a small town.

Rich kids are very strange.

394 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:45:07pm

re: #390 SanFranciscoZionist

He can't and shouldn't respond, but it's tacky. Especially after how positive and sane he was about her pregnancy, a courtesy no one in her family would have extended to anyone connected with him.

I think that's what pisses me off about their hatred to him. Now I realize they don't personally owe him any love but he was very positive and courteous about her pregnancy pointing out the situation his own parents were in. I can understand them politically disagreeing with him. What I don't understand is the nastiness they seem to have towards him. I don't see that from Meaghan McCain and I didn't see any from Bush's daughters directed at their father's opponents. And for that matter, I can't see Romney's sons doing something like this either.

395 ProGunLiberal  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:45:52pm

re: #384 ProGunLiberal

Unfortunately, that was also probably the time I learned that debating with brutality and malice to the other side was a good thing, and started one of many different threads of problems.

396 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:45:55pm

re: #394 HappyWarrior

I think that's what pisses me off about their hatred to him. Now I realize they don't personally owe him any love but he was very positive and courteous about her pregnancy pointing out the situation his own parents were in. I can understand them politically disagreeing with him. What I don't understand is the nastiness they seem to have towards him. I don't see that from Meaghan McCain and I didn't see any from Bush's daughters directed at their father's opponents. And for that matter, I can't see Romney's sons doing something like this either.

Trailer Trash is as Trailer Trash does.

397 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:46:42pm

re: #395 ProGunLiberal

Unfortunately, that was also probably the time I learned that debating with brutality and malice to the other side was a good thing, and started one of many different threads of problems.

Fighting Fire with Fire is sometimes the only way to go. Bullies of the world only respect other bully-like behavior.

398 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:46:53pm

re: #396 ggt

Trailer Trash is as Trailer Trash does.

I really don't want to call them trailer trash. I'll just stick with nasty people.

399 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:46:57pm

re: #389 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

I quit, got my GED, then onto 4 year UF degree. High school was hell.

It wasn't until the middle of my junior year that I decided I would give a rat's ass about my grades and start trying harder to get into the National Honor Society. That didn't happen, but I did get into a good college. This was on my own in the 70's, as I was being raised by wolfs. Well, crazy hippie parents, same difference.
Now, I think a 15 year old should not date a 21 year old, for instance, but back then nobody gave a shit.

400 Targetpractice  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:47:13pm

Apparently Sly Stallone is a Time Lord:

‘Sylvester Stallone’ spotted in 16th century painting

401 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:47:26pm

re: #396 ggt

Trailer Trash is as Trailer Trash does.

The ultimate goal is publicity, not making an actual political (or logical) point.

402 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:47:41pm

re: #389 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

I quit, got my GED, then onto 4 year UF degree. High school was hell.

I got my GED because I quit HS too soon. When they phoned to tell me I passed the test, the woman asked me why I bothered to take it.

I went to uni after.

403 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:47:43pm

My mother still won't leave a tip over 10% --A dolllar means so much to her.

Strange IMHO.

404 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:47:53pm
405 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:47:58pm

What the fuck, Charles? Is that Dan Riehl I see mocking Mitt Romney on twitter and you're RTing him? Did Varek open another one of his funky worm holes in the space-time continuum again?

406 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:48:08pm

re: #400 Targetpractice

Apparently Sly Stallone is a Time Lord:

‘Sylvester Stallone’ spotted in 16th century painting

Sly, you magnificent bastard.

407 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:48:23pm

re: #400 Targetpractice

Apparently Sly Stallone is a Time Lord:

‘Sylvester Stallone’ spotted in 16th century painting

I could actually believe that!

/;0

408 ProGunLiberal  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:48:42pm

re: #397 ggt

Problem is, I started treating every conservative this way.

409 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:49:05pm

re: #408 ProGunLiberal

Problem is, I started treating every conservative this way.

Yeah, not good.

411 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:51:34pm

re: #410 jaunte

Animal break:

Image: enhanced-buzz-6968-1336668519-2.jpg

The 35 Greatest Animal Photobombers Of All Time

Number one reminds me of the little guy in Ice Age. I love the hippo one too though because he's smiling and looks like he's hanging with an old friend.

413 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:52:28pm
414 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:53:32pm

re: #410 jaunte

Animal break:

Image: enhanced-buzz-6968-1336668519-2.jpg

The 35 Greatest Animal Photobombers Of All Time

In #19 the cat is gloating over the radio-controlled shock collar that has been put on the dog.

415 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:53:54pm

re: #390 SanFranciscoZionist

He can't and shouldn't respond, but it's tacky. Especially after how positive and sane he was about her pregnancy, a courtesy no one in her family would have extended to anyone connected with him.

My theory: dum dum dum

1. Ghostwriter paid by sarahpac
2. Sarah is still irrationally pissed (poor donators)
3. Sarah has lost a little shine, but has been out of the news cycle
4. Bristol, perfect (again) foil

416 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:54:21pm

re: #412 Gus

Jazz for Cows

[Embedded content]

OMG, they have a CD!

417 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:54:39pm

Night Lizards. I have been tossing a Nic change around in my mind. I am thinking about going back to who I used to be known as in the BBS world.

The Survivalist.

Now, before you go nuts, take into consideration that this Nic, yes, has some negative connotations. It also has many positive ones as well.

Think about it.

418 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:55:26pm

re: #415 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

My theory: dum dum dum

1. Ghostwriter paid by sarahpac
2. Sarah is still irrationally pissed (poor donators)
3. Sarah has lost a little shine, but has been out of the news cycle
4. Bristol, perfect (again) foil

Don't worry, Sarah will announce shortly that she turned down the citizenship papers that were enclosed in her packet of Swiss Miss hot chocolate.

Hard to keep up with the Bachmann's sometimes...
/

419 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:55:55pm

re: #416 ggt

OMG, they have a CD!

Do they? Go figure.

420 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:55:56pm

re: #415 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

My theory: dum dum dum

1. Ghostwriter paid by sarahpac
2. Sarah is still irrationally pissed (poor donators)
3. Sarah has lost a little shine, but has been out of the news cycle
4. Bristol, perfect (again) foil

I am thinking some of all the above but mostly 2 and 3. They fit in with the fact that the Palins are desperate to live past their fifteen minutes of fame.

421 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:55:56pm
422 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:55:59pm

re: #376 prairiefire

Me, too! The librarian told me I should go for something in the drama dept. because I read so many plays, but I was too shy. In sumtotal, I had more conversations with various librarians than any teacher.

Librarians, I think, are often the angels of a school that keep many of us alive. Well, them and the bartenders at the airport lounge a half-mile from the school that didn't check ID"s as long as you had cash and could hold your liquor :eek:

I did some acting but was too self conscious in those days to be any good at it. But I did find that working the lights for plays and programs was a hell of a lot of fun and so did that as often as possible in Jr & Sr High.

It's funny, public speaking never bugged me - I did forensics, gave speeches at left wing/peace-nik rallies all through high school, lectured a congressman about what was going on in Nicaragua, & wrote for the newspaper. But put me in a play? Fell all apart,

423 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:57:25pm

re: #393 ggt

My Freshman year was at an affluent HS --then we moved to a small town.

Rich kids are very strange.

Haha, if we're reminiscing and spilling, my parents moved me from Florida surfing/beach HS to inland Florida trucks and country music HS. I died.

424 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:57:44pm

Lesbian Seeking Marriage License Arrested in NC

A lesbian who sought a North Carolina marriage license with her partner and was rejected under a state law banning same-sex marriage was arrested with another person Thursday after they refused to leave a government office where several gay and lesbian couples were turned away.

425 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:59:30pm
426 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:59:30pm

re: #423 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

Haha, if we're reminiscing and spilling, my parents moved me from Florida surfing/beach HS to inland Florida trucks and country music HS. I died.

That sounds like abuse to me!

/

427 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:59:52pm

re: #399 prairiefire

It wasn't until the middle of my junior year that I decided I would give a rat's ass about my grades and start trying harder to get into the National Honor Society. That didn't happen, but I did get into a good college. This was on my own in the 70's, as I was being raised by wolfs. Well, crazy hippie parents, same difference.
Now, I think a 15 year old should not date a 21 year old, for instance, but back then nobody gave a shit.

So relate! So!

428 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:00:45pm
429 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:01:23pm

re: #403 ggt

My mother still won't leave a tip over 10% --A dolllar means so much to her.

Strange IMHO.

My brother-in-law is the cheapest fuckwad on the planet. He was born in 1956, but he learned how to pinch pennies from my in-laws, a skill that was never passed on to Zedushka or his sister.

Anyhow, this guy is an M.D. and he has tons of cash, but he drives a piece of shit 1990 Geo he bought for $400 (he has a fleet of these junkers in every city he works, and he pays some redneck $1/year to park in his driveway). He does not own a house, but crashes in flop houses.

He drove his piece of shit junk car from Buffalo to Cincinnati just so he could get a cheap plane fare from Cincinnati to San Francisco. He had schemes for cheating the airlines, but hasn't been able to commit these larcenies since 2001.

430 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:01:48pm

re: #405 darthstar

What the fuck, Charles? Is that Dan Riehl I see mocking Mitt Romney on twitter and you're RTing him? Did Varek open another one of his funky worm holes in the space-time continuum again?

He's not mocking Romney. He's singing the praises of anti-gay bullying.

431 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:01:53pm

re: #428 Cathartic Expression

My fav.

Spunky?

432 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:02:21pm

re: #428 Cathartic Expression

My fav.

I still give it to the squirrel, mostly because the couple is laughing so hard seeing him pop up in front of the camera...obviously a fun moment for them (yeah, I'm a hopeless romantic)

433 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:02:43pm

re: #417 Bubblehead II

Night Lizards. I have been tossing a Nic change around in my mind. I am thinking about going back to who I used to be known as in the BBS world.

The Survivalist.

Now, before you go nuts, take into consideration that this Nic, yes, has some negative connotations. It also has many positive ones as well.

Think about it.

You're asking a bunch of lizards with rotating NICs if you should change yours?

434 darthstar  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:03:30pm

re: #430 Charles Johnson

He's not mocking Romney. He's singing the praises of anti-gay bullying.

He's doing it wrong...stupid fucker. All he's doing is making Mitt and people who support him look like bigger assholes than they already do.

435 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:03:46pm

re: #422 William Barnett-Lewis

One of my first jobs was petition work, which was excuriating because I felt so shy. I soon found out that my long line of tinkers and traveling salesmen grandpa's emerged and I can busk all day. Of course it is better to be paid. I just earned $11 an hour working for an advocacy/petition effort, for a four hour shift.
The flexible hours let me keep track of my kids.
There is all kinds of political money floating out there at the moment. Can you write copy for ads?

436 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:03:49pm

I think the first time I had to do a serious public speaking thing in school, my leg was shaking- I was that nervous. I still loathe doing it. I had to do a presentation in Spanish for Spanish last fall and I just couldn't do it. Professora says you can come to my office and do it there. That lady had no idea how grateful I was. And then the next semester, I was able to find a partner to do a presentation with and power-point helped a bit. The worst experience I've ever had public speaking though? Had to have been doing a scene out of Hamlet for a Shakespeare course. I had signed up for the course with the belief we'd just be reading the plays not having to act them out. My group was set to act on the last day of the class. The same week the big paper for the course was due. Well the previous night I had accidentally erased the paper and had to rewrite the essay. So I had to email the professor to get an extension. I got one but with the caveat my grade would be lowered for the paper being late. We had also been practicing for the play. None of us had ever acted before. And I had been working on my paper all night before I got to the class so I had completely forgotten any of the lines from Hamlet. None of my fellow actors were ready too. So, it began and I completely blacked, forgot my line- "Aw Damnit", class bursts in to laughter. Whole thing ended up being hilarious for both class and professor, who showed some comedic troop's silly interpretations of Shakespeare. Ending up getting a B in the course. First semester of an English minor. That was an interesting semester.

437 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:03:52pm

This is why I said earlier:

People like Dan Riehl love Mitt Romney in his bully persona. It's who they are.

438 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:04:22pm

re: #429 Learned Mother of Zion

My brother-in-law is the cheapest fuckwad on the planet. He was born in 1956, but he learned how to pinch pennies from my in-laws, a skill that was never passed on to Zedushka or his sister.

Anyhow, this guy is an M.D. and he has tons of cash, but he drives a piece of shit 1990 Geo he bought for $400 (he has a fleet of these junkers in every city he works, and he pays some redneck $1/year to park in his driveway). He does not own a house, but crashes in flop houses.

He drove his piece of shit junk car from Buffalo to Cincinnati just so he could get a cheap plane fare from Cincinnati to San Francisco. He had schemes for cheating the airlines, but hasn't been able to commit these larcenies since 2001.

Is he responsible for the stereotype?

My Mom is just on a different wave-length when it comes to money. To me, money has no intrinsic value --it is a representation of something. To my Mom it has a value I don't understand.

439 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:04:31pm

re: #425 darthstar

The Assvengers.

Maybe he was just butt-talking.

440 erik_t  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:04:43pm

re: #433 Cathartic Expression

You're asking a bunch of lizards with rotating NICs if you should change yours?

Anymore, onboard ethernet is fine for all practical purposes.

441 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:06:03pm

re: #431 Gus

Spunky?

Hot dog.

442 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:06:26pm

re: #430 Charles Johnson

He's not mocking Romney. He's singing the praises of anti-gay bullying.

It's a millstone around they're necks. A sound thinking American does not want a mob leading bully with sheers for a President. No way, no how.

443 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:06:30pm

re: #435 prairiefire

There is all kinds of political money floating out there at the moment. Can you write copy for ads?

Can I? Sure. Will I? I doubt I can get that hungry. Only if my son were going hungry.

444 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:07:34pm

re: #443 William Barnett-Lewis

Can I? Sure. Will I? I doubt I can get that hungry. Only if my son were going hungry.

For myself, I'd like some Botox.

445 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:08:03pm

re: #440 erik_t

Anymore, onboard ethernet is fine for all practical purposes.

GEEK!

Get him!

446 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:08:03pm

Dear Right Wing Nuts,

When Theodore Roosevelt said "Bully!" it meant something different. Just letting you know that now before you fall further into error.

447 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:08:05pm

re: #444 prairiefire

For myself, I'd like some Botox.

Jewelry!

448 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:09:20pm

re: #399 prairiefire

Now, I think a 15 year old should not date a 21 year old, for instance, but back then nobody gave a shit.

Heh. When I was 16 I dated a guy who was 21. I was a huge nerd in high school and had done the whole Model UN thing and he was one of the college mentors at the regional conference. That's where we met. My mom was surprisingly okay with me dating a college boy because he was cute and was a pre-law major.

Of course, this was back in the late 80's. I think parents would be way more sensitive about that sort of thing now.

449 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:09:47pm

re: #447 ggt

Jewelry!

Yum.

450 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:10:17pm

It's stupid to judge men by their hair.

451 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:11:26pm

re: #450 Gus

It's stupid to judge men by their hair.

But I enjoy making fun of Blago, Trump, Romney (who else)'s hair.

452 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:11:27pm

re: #450 Gus

It's stupid to judge men by their hair.

Better to judge them by their penises.

453 erik_t  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:11:45pm

re: #450 Gus

It's stupid to judge men by their hair.

????

454 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:11:52pm

re: #411 HappyWarrior

Number one reminds me of the little guy in Ice Age. I love the hippo one too though because he's smiling and looks like he's hanging with an old friend.

Censorship cat for the win

455 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:11:57pm

re: #452 Cathartic Expression

Better to judge them by their penises.

There you go wanting to talk about musical instruments again.

456 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:12:02pm

re: #450 Gus

It's stupid to judge men by their hair.

Any type of poor choice can be judged.

457 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:12:25pm

re: #452 Cathartic Expression

Better to judge them by their penises.

Content of their Character?

458 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:12:36pm

re: #451 ggt

But I enjoy making fun of Blago, Trump, Romney (who else)'s hair.

You can't make fun of my hair, I'm bald.

459 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:12:38pm

re: #450 Gus

It's stupid to judge men by their hair.

Unless their hair is a fashion disaster, in which case it can be used as evidence they're clueless or sloppy. But to call someone 'gay' over their hair is what the Nazi and Communists used to do, and what the Islamists do now.

460 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:13:21pm

re: #459 Dark_Falcon

Unless their hair is a fashion disaster, in which case it can be used as evidence they're clueless or sloppy. But to call someone 'gay' over their hair is what the Nazi and Communists used to do, and what the Islamists do now.

You can get bed head with short hair.

461 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:13:36pm

re: #459 Dark_Falcon

Unless their hair is a fashion disaster, in which case it can be used as evidence they're clueless or sloppy. But to call someone 'gay' over their hair is what the Nazi and Communists used to do, and what the Islamists do now.

Yes, I think grooming issues are open for comment.

462 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:13:46pm

re: #457 ggt

Content of their Character?

Not as easy to judge, and most people just don't have the time or insight to learn the content of most other's character.

463 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:14:35pm

re: #460 Gus

You can get bed head with short hair.

I just get feathers.

464 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:14:39pm

You guys.

[Bronx cheer.]

//

465 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:14:42pm

re: #462 Dark_Falcon

Not as easy to judge, and most people just don't have the time or insight to learn the content of most other's character.

Actually :), I was making a penis joke.

But, your answer is correct.

466 erik_t  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:14:45pm

re: #459 Dark_Falcon

Unless their hair is a fashion disaster, in which case it can be used as evidence they're clueless or sloppy. But to call someone 'gay' over their hair is what the Nazi and Communists used to do, and what the Islamists do now.

PONYTAIL!!!!1

467 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:14:56pm

re: #463 Cathartic Expression

I just get feathers.

Head gear.

468 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:15:03pm

re: #462 Dark_Falcon

Not as easy to judge, and most people just don't have the time or insight to learn the content of most other's character.

Not to mention overdoing it. Like John Edwards spending $400 selecting the proper font for his character.
/

469 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:15:37pm

re: #460 Gus

You can get bed head with short hair.

I mean more where someone just clearly doesn't care what they look like or chose something that clearly does not look good on them. And judgement based on the latter should be of extremely limited scope. Judgement on the former may extend to calling someone a slob.

470 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:15:49pm

re: #468 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Not to mention overdoing it. Like John Edwards spending $400 selecting the proper font for his character.
/

He has no character.

471 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:17:10pm

re: #466 erik_t

Very good point. Remember the lame Dana Loeche attacks on Chalres for his hair and how dumb those are.

[flips ponytail hating Stalkers the bird}

472 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:17:19pm

I went into 9th grade with long hair. Had a guy bully me for maybe a day. I told him to meet me out back. I was pretty pissed off by then. He never showed up.

473 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:20:00pm

And please welcome Lincoln Park Zoo's newest species, the Red River Hog. Any resemblance to Rush Limbaugh is purely coincidental.

474 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:20:11pm

Puppies love it when hubby is overtired and has an evening beer. He starts telling them what good dogs they are and gives them beer too!

LOL

475 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:20:29pm

re: #473 Dark_Falcon

And please welcome Lincoln Park Zoo's newest species, the Red River Hog. Any resemblance to Rush Limbaugh is purely coincidental.

You know, I have never been. Been to the Honolulu Zoo, but to Lincoln Park!

476 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:22:19pm

By Emily Friedman
@EmilyABC
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@stevenportnoy
May 10, 2012 2:02pm
Romney Friend Stu White Says Campaign Wants Him to Counter Prank Accusations
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ABC News’ Emily Friedman, Emily Stanitz and Steven Portnoy report:
One of Mitt Romney’s closest friends and a high school classmate has been asked by the Romney campaign to come out and offer “supporting remarks” in defense of the candidate following a Washington Post article that described pranks at the Cranbrook School in the 1960s that focused on a student who was “presumed” to be gay. Romney has denied that the pranks were targeted.
Romney’s older brother Scott called White, asking him to act as a surrogate for Romney on their high school years.
White, in an interview with ABC News, said that he is “still debating” whether he will help the campaign, remarking, “It’s been a long time since we’ve been pals.” While the Post reports White as having “long been bothered” by the haircutting incident,” he told ABC News he was not present for the prank, in which Romney is said to have forcefully cut a student’s long hair and was not aware of it until this year when he was contacted by the Washington Post.
According to White, he knows of several other classmates that have also been approached by the campaign to counter the article. White declined to name the fellow classmates.
Romney often mentions White on the campaign trail as the friend who threw the party where Romney met his wife Ann, whom he has now been married to for more than 43 years.
One former classmate and old friend of Romney’s – who refused to be identified by name – said there are “a lot of guys” who went to Cranbrook who have “really negative memories” of Romney’s behavior in the dorms, behavior this classmate describes as “like Lord of the Flies.”
The classmate believes Romney is lying when he claims to not remember it.
“It makes these fellows [who have owned up to it] very remorseful. For [Romney] not to remember it? It doesn’t ring true. How could the fellow with the scissors forget it?” the former classmate said.

477 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:22:24pm

re: #473 Dark_Falcon

And please welcome Lincoln Park Zoo's newest species, the Red River Hog. Any resemblance to Rush Limbaugh is purely coincidental.

Oh come on the little fella's cute and would go great between bread. Two things that can't be said about ole Rush.

478 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:22:24pm

bbiab

479 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:22:35pm

Anyway. Some of the biggest, thickest, and longest pony tails belong to a lot of right wing rednecks. You can't judge.

480 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:24:17pm

re: #479 Gus

Anyway. Some of the biggest, thickest, and longest pony tails belong to a lot of right wing rednecks. You can't judge.

481 jaunte  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:24:42pm

"The fellow with the scissors"
#Mitt Romney Movies

482 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:24:44pm

Funny when I had my hair at its longest and my beard at its thickest, a guy at the local Irish pub said "Sir, I don't know how you'll take this but you look like an IRA man." I laughed and finished my Guinness. Thing that made it funny was a friend had recently said I looked like Luke Kelly from the Irish folk band the Dubliners.

483 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:25:13pm

re: #475 ggt

You know, I have never been. Been to the Honolulu Zoo, but to Lincoln Park!

And you from Aurora. Tsk, tsk! Not trying to take you to task, but you really should go.

484 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:26:52pm

re: #482 HappyWarrior

Funny when I had my hair at its longest and my beard at its thickest, a guy at the local Irish pub said "Sir, I don't know how you'll take this but you look like an IRA man." I laughed and finished my Guinness. Thing that made it funny was a friend had recently said I looked like Luke Kelly from the Irish folk band the Dubliners.

I had an untrimmed beard and had just gotten my hair cut short that day and a friend told me I looked like someone off of a "10 Most Wanted" poster.

485 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:27:09pm

re: #475 ggt

You know, I have never been. Been to the Honolulu Zoo, but to Lincoln Park!

I can't believe that! Not on a school trip? Go, go soon! The gorillas and gibbons are amazing. Watch out for the seagulls!

486 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:27:57pm

re: #472 Gus

I went into 9th grade with long hair. Had a guy bully me for maybe a day. I told him to meet me out back. I was pretty pissed off by then. He never showed up.

I had long hair (think Robert Plant on Led Zep I) from grade 9 til after uni. Nobody but my grandmother said anything. I only responded to one fight call. I was scared shitless, so I threw him on the ground and sat on him.

487 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:27:58pm

re: #482 HappyWarrior

Funny when I had my hair at its longest and my beard at its thickest, a guy at the local Irish pub said "Sir, I don't know how you'll take this but you look like an IRA man." I laughed and finished my Guinness. Thing that made it funny was a friend had recently said I looked like Luke Kelly from the Irish folk band the Dubliners.

I just read Dubliners.

488 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:28:08pm

re: #433 Cathartic Expression

Actually, yes. "Survivalist" has a negative connotation in this Community. One that has been rightly earned. But not all of us have the same mind set.

489 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:28:23pm

re: #474 ggt

Puppies love it when hubby is overtired and has an evening beer. He starts telling them what good dogs they are and gives them beer too!

LOL

I like your hubby.

490 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:28:56pm

re: #484 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I had an untrimmed beard and had just gotten my hair cut short that day and a friend told me I looked like someone off of a "10 Most Wanted" poster.

I mad the poor choice not to get my beard shaved off the day before I gt my passport renwed. So now whenever I fly anywhere (which I always make sure to shave beforehand) I end up getting at least a second glance over just to make sure my face and my passport match up...

491 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:28:56pm

re: #488 Bubblehead II

Actually, yes. "Survivalist" has a negative connotation in this Community. One that has been rightly earned. But not all of us have the same mind set.

And "Bubblehead" works well with a submarine patch avatar. :)

492 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:29:00pm

re: #486 Cathartic Expression

Smother him with the hippie love!

493 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:29:08pm

re: #486 Cathartic Expression

I had long hair (think Robert Plant on Led Zep I) from grade 9 til after uni. Nobody but my grandmother said anything. I only responded to one fight call. I was scared shitless, so I threw him on the ground and sat on him.

I did that to one kid -- playing softball. He freaked. I was like OK no fighting from me so I just locked him down.

494 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:29:12pm

re: #487 Gus

I just read Dubliners.

Did you like it? I read it last summer. Joyce is a little hard to read but I like him.

495 erik_t  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:29:14pm
496 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:29:50pm

re: #494 HappyWarrior

Did you like it? I read it last summer. Joyce is a little hard to read but I like him.

I was thinking of the band.

497 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:30:05pm

re: #469 Dark_Falcon

I mean more where someone just clearly doesn't care what they look like or chose something that clearly does not look good on them. And judgement based on the latter should be of extremely limited scope. Judgement on the former may extend to calling someone a slob.

My stepdad, alas, has worn a wig/toupee for the last 30 years. It's gotten gray appropriately. I'm used to it, but I've become I think as a consequence very ok with aging.

498 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:30:34pm

re: #484 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I had an untrimmed beard and had just gotten my hair cut short that day and a friend told me I looked like someone off of a "10 Most Wanted" poster.

I got told similar- "You look like the reason why Megan's law was passed." I kept what I called a beard log, writing down what people said. I think my favorite was the guy at the campus burger place who said I looked like a lumberjack.

499 palomino  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:30:54pm

re: #437 Charles Johnson

This is why I said earlier:

[Embedded content] People like Dan Riehl love Mitt Romney in his bully persona. It's who they are.

Exactly, it was the mid 60s so Romney was symbolically striking a blow against the counterculture by demanding that everyone look the same.

Furthermore the person he assaulted was a "hippie fag" so that gets Riehl and his crowd really hard, after months of feeling flaccid about Romney.

500 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:30:57pm

re: #496 Gus

I was thinking of the band.

Oh you said you read it, I thought you were talking about the Joyce short stories, I didn't realize there was a book about the band. Any good?

501 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:30:57pm

re: #485 prairiefire

I can't believe that! Not on a school trip? Go, go soon! The gorillas and gibbons are amazing. Watch out for the seagulls!

I remember when the worst you had to worry about at the Landmark Cafe were the pigeons. But between the Peregrine Falcons and the seagulls, the pigeons are gone from that plaza. And the seagulls that have replaced them are less numerous but far more aggressive and much, much louder.

502 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:32:23pm

re: #500 HappyWarrior

Oh you said you read it, I didn't realize there was a book about the band. Any good?

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

503 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:32:32pm

re: #488 Bubblehead II

Actually, yes. "Survivalist" has a negative connotation in this Community. One that has been rightly earned. But not all of us have the same mind set.

Don't worry about it. Most people here form opinions about other lizards by what is said, not by the Nic.

504 freetoken  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:32:41pm

WND "Exclusive"! (where's that flashing light when one needs it...)

BREITBART WITNESS: HE DROPPED LIKE A SACK OF BRICKS

Describes 'thick white band' around forehead at death

OMG!! A THICK WHITE BAND!!

Now it's all so clear.

505 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:32:50pm

re: #502 Gus

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Thanks.

506 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:33:17pm

This is wonderful from James Joyce:[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

507 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:33:27pm

re: #505 HappyWarrior

Thanks.

I've played them before. :)

The Dubliners - In The Rare Old Times

508 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:33:38pm

re: #504 freetoken

WND "Exclusive"! (where's that flashing light when one needs it...)

BREITBART WITNESS: HE DROPPED LIKE A SACK OF BRICKS

OMG!! A THICK WHITE BAND!!

Now it's all so clear.

A speckled band would have been a much clearer indication of a conspiracy.

509 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:34:07pm

re: #492 prairiefire

Smother him with the hippie love!

I had his arms pinned and I was in the superior position. I could have pounded his face in, but I didn't.

510 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:34:15pm

re: #507 Gus

I've played them before. :)

The Dubliners - In The Rare Old Times

[Embedded content]

Cool deal. Always liked Raglan Road myself ever since I heard it in In Bruges.

511 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:34:30pm

re: #504 freetoken

Jonathan Kay Rule is in effect:

Belief in conspiracy theories is the sign of a mind in flight from reality.

512 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:34:47pm

re: #510 HappyWarrior

Cool deal. Always liked Raglan Road myself ever since I heard it in In Bruges.

Yep. I like good music.

513 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:35:33pm

re: #512 Gus

Yep. I like good music.

Yep good stuff right there.

514 jaunte  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:36:08pm

re: #504 freetoken

At WND’s request, inquiries about the thick white band have been sent to noted board-certified forensic pathologists Michael Baden, former chief medical examiner for the city of New York, and Cyril Wecht, best known for his role as a critic of the Warren Commission’s conclusions in the JFK assassination

Grassyknollery, Batman!

515 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:36:45pm

re: #488 Bubblehead II

Actually, yes. "Survivalist" has a negative connotation in this Community. One that has been rightly earned. But not all of us have the same mind set.

re: #488 Bubblehead II

Actually, yes. "Survivalist" has a negative connotation in this Community. One that has been rightly earned. But not all of us have the same mind set.

Survivalist (forget the Glenn beck shit)

516 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:36:46pm

re: #497 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

My stepdad, alas, has worn a wig/toupee for the last 30 years. It's gotten gray appropriately. I'm used to it, but I've become I think as a consequence very ok with aging.

My dad has a severe comb-over, and my brother looks to be starting one.

I will never have one, nor will I wear a rug, it's just too unauthentic.

517 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:36:52pm

From what I know now? My impression of Mitt Romney is completely different than what I thought in 2008 or before that.

518 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:37:04pm

re: #504 freetoken

BREITBART WITNESS: HE DROPPED LIKE A SACK OF BRICKS

That's pretty common in people having massive heart attacks. Didn't Breitbart die of heart failure and hardened arteries or something?

519 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:37:33pm

re: #498 HappyWarrior

I got told similar- "You look like the reason why Megan's law was passed." I kept what I called a beard log, writing down what people said. I think my favorite was the guy at the campus burger place who said I looked like a lumberjack.

My Scot grandpa was a lumberjack in his youth.

520 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:37:45pm

re: #514 jaunte

Grassyknollery, Batman!

"Back, and to the left."

521 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:38:17pm

re: #491 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

And "Bubblehead" works well with a submarine patch avatar. :)

I am what I am. Lets also throw this in the mix.

I am also cold warrior. A term that should resonate with the USAF vets.

But I doubt that you would understand that.

When was the last time you got a EAM?

522 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:39:11pm

re: #516 Cathartic Expression

My dad has a severe comb-over, and my brother looks to be starting one.

I will never have one, nor will I wear a rug, it's just too unauthentic.

My guy friends who would have had to do the combover thing just gave up and shaved their heads. They said it was easier than trying to fool anyone with a tacky toupee or looking like they were trying too hard.

523 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:40:44pm

re: #521 Bubblehead II

I am what I am. Lets also throw this in the mix.

I am also cold warrior. A term that should resonate with the USAF vets.

But I doubt that you would understand that.

When was the last time you got a EAM?

Don't call yourself "Cold Warrior". That nic was used by a former Lizard turned Stalker. Banned for his relentless hatred of all things Islamic, he still posts under the nic "Cold Warrior" on the Stalker Blog.

524 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:40:44pm

re: #521 Bubblehead II

I am what I am. Lets also throw this in the mix.

I am also cold warrior. A term that should resonate with the USAF vets.

But I doubt that you would understand that.

When was the last time you got a EAM?

Given my lack of military service, never.

525 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:40:50pm

re: #522 Lidane

My guy friends who would have had to do the combover thing just gave up and shaved their heads. They said it was easier than trying to fool anyone with a tacky toupee or looking like they were trying too hard.

That's what I do too.

526 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:40:54pm

Another good Dubliners one- Down By the Glenside, fun fact this song was written by the uncle of Brendan Behan who has one of my favorite quotes about drinking & writing ever: "I'm not a writer with drinking problems, I'm a drinker with writing problems."
527 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:42:21pm

re: #521 Bubblehead II

I am what I am. Lets also throw this in the mix.

I am also cold warrior. A term that should resonate with the USAF vets.

But I doubt that you would understand that.

When was the last time you got a EAM?

Well, Hoosier Hoops remembers the "Mare Island Mud Puppy" quite well.

528 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:42:47pm

re: #521 Bubblehead II

I am what I am. Lets also throw this in the mix.

I am also cold warrior. A term that should resonate with the USAF vets.

But I doubt that you would understand that.

When was the last time you got a EAM?

But I know the terms from having a friend who was on a boomer for a few tours.

529 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:43:04pm

Lizards. Getting out hand. May you al lhave a good night.

Sorry to those I pissed off. But sometimes, well. you just have to let go.

530 Stanghazi  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:43:19pm

Night friends, sweet dreams. See ya tomorrow.

531 freetoken  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:43:44pm

OMG!!!

You know who supplies THICK WHITE HEADBANDS?

Look HERE!!

That's right, the Girl Scouts are long known for their headbands:
[Link: www.vintagegirlscout.com...]

Now, finally, it's all getting clear.

Breitbart was onto the truth: Obama was is using the Girl Scouts to force lesbianism upon God-fearing Americans, and the agent who did in Andrew left the calling card just so everyone of Breitbart's associates would understand how dangerous it would be to go ahead with the story (which is why BigGovernment spiked the story.)

532 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:43:57pm

re: #529 Bubblehead II

Lizards. Getting out hand. May you al lhave a good night.

Sorry to those I pissed off. But sometimes, well. you just have to let go.

Who did you piss off?

533 b_Snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:44:26pm

G'night.

534 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:44:33pm

Massive heart attack you just bleed out internally.

535 freetoken  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:44:38pm

Evidently THICK WHITE HEADBANDS have replaced white roses as the mob's primary calling card.

536 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:45:08pm

re: #533 Cathartic Expression

G'night.

Latur mon.

537 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:47:13pm

re: #532 Cathartic Expression

Who did you piss off?

Somebody, somewhere I am sure.

// I seem to have that ability.

538 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:57:06pm

re: #489 Cathartic Expression

I like your hubby.

I do too!

Said Hubby and dogs are now huddled together in the bed snoring.

539 freetoken  Thu, May 10, 2012 8:57:27pm

Who knew that the Girl Scouts would be the destruction of America?

540 Mich-again  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:01:18pm

re: #539 freetoken

Who knew that the Girl Scouts would be the destruction of America?

Rush will probably join in and blame the Girl Scouts Samoa cookies for his obesity.

541 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:01:46pm

re: #539 freetoken

Who knew that the Girl Scouts would be the destruction salvation of America?

FTFY.

(Yet another reason why I went with Canterbury instead of Rome. Sorry, Momma.)

542 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:03:18pm

I had a very weird day.

Among other things, I severed ties with a good friends (Husband and Wife). They are just too dysfunctional for me. Have't had to do that in a very long time.

543 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:03:42pm

re: #531 freetoken

OMG!!!

You know who supplies THICK WHITE HEADBANDS?

Look HERE!!

That's right, the Girl Scouts are long known for their headbands:
[Link: www.vintagegirlscout.com...]

Now, finally, it's all getting clear.

Breitbart was onto the truth: Obama was is using the Girl Scouts to force lesbianism upon God-fearing Americans, and the agent who did in Andrew left the calling card just so everyone of Breitbart's associates would understand how dangerous it would be to go ahead with the story (which is why BigGovernment spiked the story.)

That's funny; I thought they didn't talk about that because Joel Pollack is just a two-faced asshole, and not an insane person.

544 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:04:54pm

re: #543 Dark_Falcon

That's funny; I thought they didn't talk about that because Joel Pollack is just a two-faced asshole, and not an insane person.

The one on the right looks like dancing devils?

I just remember the lame hat they wanted us to wear that nobody did.

545 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:07:01pm

re: #541 William Barnett-Lewis

FTFY.

(Yet another reason why I went with Canterbury instead of Rome. Sorry, Momma.)

Who couldn't go with Canterbury after Chaucer?

546 ProGunLiberal  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:07:22pm

re: #541 William Barnett-Lewis

Canterbury is awesome.

My candidate for the Christian Head of a Jerusalem Holy Sites (and Christian Sites in the Holy Land) in my optimum solution for the I-P conflict.

547 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:07:23pm

The girl scouts? Gays marrying? All real dangers but not global warming or increasing income disparities.

548 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:07:24pm

Well, I figured-out exactly what allergen is messing with me right now. When I took Brat Puppy to the vet for his Big Boy shots, there were clumps of cottonwood seedlings EVERYWHERE!

Yes, it is Springtime in Chicago.

549 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:07:57pm

re: #542 ggt

I had a very weird day.

Among other things, I severed ties with a good friends (Husband and Wife). They are just too dysfunctional for me. Have't had to do that in a very long time.

I've been lucky - simply time, letting them slip away, has sufficed for me.

My better half has not been, alas, so fortunate so I can all too well imagine your day.

550 prairiefire  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:08:01pm

re: #542 ggt

{{ggt}} You have to stay safe.

551 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:08:04pm

re: #547 HappyWarrior

The girl scouts? Gays marrying? All real dangers but not global warming or increasing income disparities.

No need to prosecute Wall Street criminals --we should just build a fence between Arizona and the Mexico.

/

552 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:08:41pm

re: #550 prairiefire

{{ggt}} You have to stay safe.

Sad watching people take themselves down the crazy hole. They are now separated and I don't see a good outcome.

553 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:08:51pm

re: #551 ggt

No need to prosecute Wall Street criminals --we should just build a fence between Arizona and the Mexico.

/

Build the darn fence and it will solve everything. Everything except the grizzly bears.

554 Mich-again  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:09:46pm

re: #551 ggt

No need to prosecute Wall Street criminals --we should just build a fence between Arizona and the Mexico.

Well the problem is that fence would stop traffic both ways..

555 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:11:28pm

re: #554 Mich-again

Well the problem is that fence would stop traffic both ways..

No, the problem with the fence is that Sheriff Joe and Sarah would still be on this side of it

:0

556 Gus  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:11:34pm
557 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:13:19pm

re: #546 ProGunLiberal

Canterbury is awesome.

My candidate for the Christian Head of a Jerusalem Holy Sites (and Christian Sites in the Holy Land) in my optimum solution for the I-P conflict.

If we could keep Rowan Williams +++ in office, as much as I disagree with him our own church political issues (even as I love his theological writings) I'd be tempted to agree. But any solution that puts it into one person's hands will fail badly in the ME. Too many groups to agree on who that one is (and my church is one of the many at fault there...)

558 Mich-again  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:15:36pm

re: #542 ggt

Among other things, I severed ties with a good friends (Husband and Wife). They are just too dysfunctional for me. Have't had to do that in a very long time.

you can't just leave us hanging like that! Whatdeydo?

559 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:15:46pm

re: #539 freetoken

Who knew that the Girl Scouts would be the destruction of America?

Which I think is both pathetic and hilarious. It's the Girl Scouts, who not only sell some ridiculously addictive cookies, but they do some great work for girls.

560 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:16:11pm

Xtra 15% off at Walgreens tomorrow --print the coupons

You can still use coupons and it applies to sale items.

561 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:16:16pm

re: #557 William Barnett-Lewis

That's funny, because Williams has always struck me as a weak-willed buffoon. His church is dying in the UK.

562 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:17:18pm

re: #560 ggt

Xtra 15% off at Walgreens tomorrow --print the coupons

You can still use coupons and it applies to sale items.

Thank you. A coupon like that is so much better than those old fruitcups.

563 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:17:25pm

re: #558 Mich-again

you can't just leave us hanging like that! Whatdeydo?

c my #552

564 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:18:43pm

re: #559 Lidane

Which I think is both pathetic and hilarious. It's the Girl Scouts, who not only sell some ridiculously addictive cookies, but they do some great work for girls.

And it's the girl scouts. I mean I'll admit I don't think much of the BSA because of their discriminatory policies against gays and atheists but I am not engaging in histrionics about how they're destroying America either. And mmmm Samoas and Thin Mints.

565 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:20:16pm

re: #562 Dark_Falcon

Thank you. A coupon like that is so much better than those old fruitcups.

Hey, I am a coupon queen.

566 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:22:08pm

This is cool!

I didn't realize there were so many places that did this.

567 Targetpractice  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:23:24pm

re: #559 Lidane

Which I think is both pathetic and hilarious. It's the Girl Scouts, who not only sell some ridiculously addictive cookies, but they do some great work for girls.

Don't you see, they're using Thin Mints to lull us into a false sense of security! They're plotting against us as we speak!

///

568 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:23:57pm

re: #567 Targetpractice

Don't you see, they're using Thin Mints to lull us into a false sense of security! They're plotting against us as we speak!

///

It's all creeping Sharia mint law.

569 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:24:39pm

re: #567 Targetpractice

Don't you see, they're using Thin Mints to lull us into a false sense of security! They're plotting against us as we speak!

///

Yeah, they'll grow-up to be Fox News Babes and seduce you with their legs into thinking all sorts of things.

/gah

My latest outrage --oh, I almost forgot --

Regarding Fox News Barbie Dolls --tonites t-shirt rant.

In the process of uploading to cafepress

570 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:26:54pm

re: #561 Dark_Falcon

That's funny, because Williams has always struck me as a weak-willed buffoon. His church is dying in the UK.

It's funny - he tries to be everything to everyone in his personal life but his theological writing is very crisp & clear. Not easy though, so perhaps that's a part of it.

But the COE must be disestablished if it is to survive. A church can only live if:
1) it is made up only of people who want to be there &
2) it is more than just a social club for those who do arrive.

The combination of these are why mainline protestant churches are failing. God aweful as they are, the mega-churches do a better job of pretending they care about more than their congregant's wallets.

I am also coming to the belief that churches. all of them, even my own, need to lose their tax exempt status in our nation. It would help reset the power imbalance that currently exists between the religious & secular in our nation. That imbalance strikes at the heart of the separation of church and state our founders wisely saw as a critical necessity to our national survival.

571 ProGunLiberal  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:30:27pm

re: #561 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, and so is the Catholic Church in Europe.

re: #557 William Barnett-Lewis

Well it has to be a centralized, non involved church.

Which eliminates the Egyptian Coptic, Ethiopian, Orthodox, and Catholic Churches.

Leaves very, very few options, unless you want to go with the route of the Hashemites, and but one of the heads of state of one of the nations with weak separation of Church and State who are Protestant.

Which leaves the UK, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and Finland.

572 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:38:16pm
573 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:41:08pm

Good night all. Till the morrow...

574 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:42:57pm

re: #572 ggt

There is now a 3 x 3 sticker available

Share if you like.

Do me a "Bin Laden's Dead: GM"s Alive - Obama/Biden 2012" bumper sticker and I'd be happy ;)

Off to bed for real now.

575 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:47:14pm

re: #574 William Barnett-Lewis

Do me a "Bin Laden's Dead: GM"s Alive - Obama/Biden 2012" bumper sticker and I'd be happy ;)

Off to bed for real now.

I think darthstar already did that --he has a cafepress store --from whom I got the idea.

ask him, he'll do you one!

576 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 10, 2012 9:52:48pm

re: #575 ggt

I think darthstar already did that --he has a cafepress store --from whom I got the idea.

ask him, he'll do you one!

Santorum flew.
Romney knew.
Lizard182!

;)

577 Mich-again  Thu, May 10, 2012 10:08:18pm

re: #552 ggt

Sad watching people take themselves down the crazy hole. They are now separated and I don't see a good outcome.

Its sad to watch, but nothing good comes out of getting in the middle to try to stop it. Well unless you can become a common enemy to them both and become the thing that brings them back together. /

578 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 10, 2012 10:19:45pm

re: #576 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Santorum flew.
Romney knew.
Lizard182!

;)

The trolls spew,
the owl calls "Hoo!"

:D

579 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 10:22:03pm

re: #577 Mich-again

Its sad to watch, but nothing good comes out of getting in the middle to try to stop it. Well unless you can become a common enemy to them both and become the thing that brings them back together. /

right, which I may have become.

Regardless, helping them to "rock-bottom" is the best I can do.

580 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 10, 2012 10:22:10pm

re: #576 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Santorum flew.
Romney knew.
Lizard182!

;)

Turk182? Only thing that kind had right was going after New York's mayor, who was a lousy Demo-Rat. Would've made him good though, if it hadn't been for the 'Turk' part. Namin' yerself after a buncha Moooslims means you're not a Real American!

581 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:11:03am

re: #482 HappyWarrior

Funny when I had my hair at its longest and my beard at its thickest, a guy at the local Irish pub said "Sir, I don't know how you'll take this but you look like an IRA man." I laughed and finished my Guinness. Thing that made it funny was a friend had recently said I looked like Luke Kelly from the Irish folk band the Dubliners.

I've been told I look like Jerry Garcia (by a drunk guy sitting on his front porch in Lincoln, Neb.), and either Karl Marx or Father Christmas here in China. It's the white hair and beard. If you've seen David Grisman lately, I bear a fair resemblance to him, too. Unfortunately, I can't play guitar worth a damn, my attempts to devise a new social order have failed, and I've touched a mandolin only once. The elves and reindeer are mumbling about Occupy North Pole, so I may be late next season.


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