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1 Kragar  Thu, May 10, 2012 10:15:38pm

That was odd.

2 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 10:24:44pm

kidz these days!

3 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 10:25:48pm

I liked the music. . .

dancer has awesome control of his body

4 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 10:31:35pm

Cleared out my hard drive of everything and anything to do with grad school except for a couple of papers that I was ridiculously happy with. The rest has gone into the digital graveyard where 1's and 0's go to die.

Graduation is on Saturday morning. I can't believe it's all over.

5 Targetpractice  Thu, May 10, 2012 10:38:22pm

re: #4 Lidane

Cleared out my hard drive of everything and anything to do with grad school except for a couple of papers that I was ridiculously happy with. The rest has gone into the digital graveyard where 1's and 0's go to die.

Graduation is on Saturday morning. I can't believe it's all over.

Destroying all the evidence, eh?

//

6 Lidane  Thu, May 10, 2012 10:44:20pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

Destroying all the evidence, eh?

//

That too. Haha.

7 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 10, 2012 10:48:12pm

re: #4 Lidane

Cleared out my hard drive of everything and anything to do with grad school except for a couple of papers that I was ridiculously happy with. The rest has gone into the digital graveyard where 1's and 0's go to die.

Graduation is on Saturday morning. I can't believe it's all over.

Con-grad-ulations!

And now, I'm off to bed.

8 Cheechako  Thu, May 10, 2012 10:53:47pm

I'm not much of a computer expert and have a question. Currently I'm using Firefox 3.6.28 and Firefox wants me to up grade to Firefox 12.0. Is this a good up-grade? When Firefox started "improving" I read that newer versions were not very good and had many bugs?

So, the question is: Should I up-grade to 12.0?

9 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 11:00:59pm

re: #4 Lidane

Cleared out my hard drive of everything and anything to do with grad school except for a couple of papers that I was ridiculously happy with. The rest has gone into the digital graveyard where 1's and 0's go to die.

Graduation is on Saturday morning. I can't believe it's all over.

Congrats!

10 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 11:01:14pm

re: #8 Cheechako

I'm not much of a computer expert and have a question. Currently I'm using Firefox 3.6.28 and Firefox wants me to up grade to Firefox 12.0. Is this a good up-grade? When Firefox started "improving" I read that newer versions were not very good and had many bugs?

So, the question is: Should I up-grade to 12.0?

switch to Chrome

11 Big Joe  Thu, May 10, 2012 11:10:09pm

re: #8 Cheechako

I still use FF, it's good. Ad Block is the main reason. I also use chromium 20.0, ad block is kinda funky with it.

12 ProGunLiberal  Thu, May 10, 2012 11:10:16pm

re: #10 ggt

Yep.

re: #9 ggt

Same here.

Unfortunately, my dad is here, and he has gotten WORSE since Winter Break.

13 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 11:13:11pm

ahhh!

Dryer Door kept popping open because the latch thingy was bent out of shape and came out of it's slot. I got the One-Size Fits All Wonder Tool (slotted screwdriver) out and rebent the thingy and put it back in its slot. Dryer door popped open again.

Now, I don't have time to start the dryer every 5 minutes and not alot of laundry was drying.

So, once again I did the rebending, repositioning the thingy exercise --slammed the door shut and sealed it with duct tape. Dryer door has stayed closed.

Yes, my Dear Ole' Dad was an Engineer!

14 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 11:13:56pm

re: #12 ProGunLiberal

Yep.

re: #9 ggt

Same here.

Unfortunately, my dad is here, and he has gotten WORSE since Winter Break.

This too shall pass --deep cleansing breathe, deep cleansing breathe . . .

15 Targetpractice  Thu, May 10, 2012 11:14:04pm

re: #13 ggt

ahhh!

Dryer Door kept popping open because the latch thingy was bent out of shape and came out of it's slot. I got the One-Size Fits All Wonder Tool (slotted screwdriver) out and rebend the thingy and put it back in its slot. Dryer door popped open again.

Now, I don't have time to start the dryer every 5 minutes and not alot of laundry was drying.

So, once again I did the rebending, repositioning the thingy exercise --slammed the door shut and sealed it with duct tape. Dryer door has stayed closed.

Yes, my Dear Ole' Dad was an Engineer!

Redneck engineering at its finest.

/

16 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 11:14:57pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

Redneck engineering at its finest.

/

$150 for Appliance Repair guy service call vs. Duct Tape

I call it smart economics!

17 ProGunLiberal  Thu, May 10, 2012 11:16:16pm

re: #14 ggt

My advisor is well aware of how my "dad" has acted with me and my amily, and how it has degraded my emotional strength over the past year.

He is also blunter than a hammer. There may be fireworks on Saturday during the reception.

Also, I invited many of the friends I still have at OU after the loss of APO, so I can be with them one last time. They are all in MSA.

18 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 10, 2012 11:18:13pm

re: #17 ProGunLiberal

My advisor is well aware of how my "dad" has acted with me and my amily, and how it has degraded my emotional strength over the past year.

He is also blunter than a hammer. There may be fireworks on Saturday during the reception.

Also, I invited many of the friends I still have at OU after the loss of APO, so I can be with them one last time. They are all in MSA.

At some point you'll learn how to stop giving your Dad the power to do that to you. I think I was 35? by the time I learned.

It does get better if you keep working at it.

19 AK-47%  Thu, May 10, 2012 11:55:40pm

re: #4 Lidane

Cleared out my hard drive of everything and anything to do with grad school except for a couple of papers that I was ridiculously happy with. The rest has gone into the digital graveyard where 1's and 0's go to die.

Graduation is on Saturday morning. I can't believe it's all over.

My grad school notes were all on ring binders, which I loaned to another student who was doing his finals, they were all washed away in a flood in Tucson...

20 AK-47%  Thu, May 10, 2012 11:57:02pm
21 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 11, 2012 12:24:26am

from twitter @aardvarkwizard

Atlas Shrugged is a v funny book wherein the bourgeois think that if they disappear society will collapse, lmao

22 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 11, 2012 12:29:55am

nytol

23 AK-47%  Fri, May 11, 2012 12:38:49am

re: #21 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

from twitter @aardvarkwizard

funny in that the bougeois think they can exist without the rest of society...

24 AK-47%  Fri, May 11, 2012 12:49:50am

oh dear, style slip...bourgeoise with an e when it's a noun. Forgive me, Mr Safire!!!

25 Kragar  Fri, May 11, 2012 1:06:34am

re: #23 Expand Your Ground

funny in that the bougeois think they can exist without the rest of society...

How many septic systems is John Galt going to build, install, and maintain with the sweat from his own brow?

26 AK-47%  Fri, May 11, 2012 1:10:04am

Everyone knows that private sewer systems are more efficient at dumping your shit on other people than government-run ones...

27 researchok  Fri, May 11, 2012 1:23:46am

Morning, all

28 freetoken  Fri, May 11, 2012 2:51:58am
29 AK-47%  Fri, May 11, 2012 2:53:37am

back on the drip...

30 researchok  Fri, May 11, 2012 2:57:43am

re: #28 freetoken

Nice- ease into the AM

31 iossarian  Fri, May 11, 2012 4:22:07am

re: #25 Kragar

How many septic systems is John Galt going to build, install, and maintain with the sweat from his own brow?

You forget the freedom-loving serfs who will make their pilgrimage to the gulch in order to happily slave away, 12 hours a day, for less than minimum wage.

32 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 11, 2012 4:31:57am

re: #31 iossarian

You forget the freedom-loving serfs who will make their pilgrimage to the gulch in order to happily slave away, 12 hours a day, for less than minimum wage.

Most of all I love the libertarian seasteading schemes. Visions of the 'black gangs' rising from belowdecks with daggers in their teeth.

[Link: www.seasteading.org...]

33 Shropshire_Slasher  Fri, May 11, 2012 4:33:32am

Lion tigers and bears OH MY!
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]
thought the pictures of the bear was cute.
Good Morning!
TGIF

34 iossarian  Fri, May 11, 2012 4:52:50am

re: #32 Decatur Deb

Most of all I love the libertarian seasteading schemes. Visions of the 'black gangs' rising from belowdecks with daggers in their teeth.

[Link: www.seasteading.org...]

That's a great website.

The wealth of the modern world comes from specialization and trade. Rather than trying to be self-sufficient, seasteads will specialize – trading sushi for steak.

I hear sushi chefs are highly paid!

35 Obdicut  Fri, May 11, 2012 5:01:56am

re: #32 Decatur Deb

Wait, that's a fucking non-profit asking for donations. How uncapitalist.

36 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 11, 2012 5:08:22am

Off for my monthly breakfast with the scum and villains I worked with for 30 yrs. BBL

37 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 5:43:12am

Morning Lizardim from the beautifully sunny wild north country. The governor's fishing opener is tomorrow, and for only the second time in 75 years, it will be held at a lake in the Twin Cities metro area. I don't plan on attending, but it should be a nice draw for the community; best of luck to Governor Dayton in catching the big one. Especially now that he can rest on his laurels for a bit after pushing through the Vikings stadium bill, which he signed. The final proposal calls for 49% of the cost to go through the team, with $150 million of the remaining to be supplied by the City of Minneapolis and the other roughly $350 million supplied by the state. And the best part of all this is, they'll have this nice new stadium, but the team is so bad, no one will ever actually go to it.

38 AK-47%  Fri, May 11, 2012 5:52:09am

Feels like a blow dryer outside here in Germany, brewing up for a summer thunderstorm in May.

39 darthstar  Fri, May 11, 2012 5:59:51am

Interesting replies to my comment on facebook "Right fuckin' on, Mr. President"

My brother He can now come out of the closet... (he's an anti-taxes conservative who is smart enough not to buy into the Obama hates America shit but does it anyway and fuels my dad's irrational hatred of the president)

His son At least he is taking a stand for liberty... isnt that what America is about? (also a conservative, graduating from a Catholic boys high school next month so it's not like he's exposed to alternative opinions all that often)

The change in attitude is, in fact, generational. In another 15 years, people will forget we ever had this debate.

40 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:08:39am

Mah brainz!*

*It's not really that bad. I just said that for dramatic purposes.

41 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:09:58am

re: #40 Gus

Mah brainz!*

*It's not really that bad. I just said that for dramatic purposes.

No, it really is that bad. I've been in your head, remember.

42 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:10:33am

re: #41 thedopefishlives

No, it really is that bad. I've been in your head, remember.

Thought I heard somebody.

//

43 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:13:23am

re: #42 Gus

Thought I heard somebody.

//

Madness does not always howl. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day, saying, "Hey, is there room in here for one more?"

44 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:14:25am

re: #43 thedopefishlives

Madness does not always howl. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day, saying, "Hey, is there room in here for one more?"

Madness doesn't have to be a lonely experience. There's always somebody to talk to.

//

45 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:15:34am

re: #44 Gus

Madness doesn't have to be a lonely experience. There's always somebody to talk to.

//

It's enough to drive a man to madness. 'Course, for me, that's a pretty short trip.

46 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:18:03am

re: #45 thedopefishlives

It's enough to drive a man to madness. 'Course, for me, that's a pretty short trip.

Coffee helps prevent madness.

47 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:18:15am

re: #46 Gus

Coffee helps prevent madness.

Well, that explains a lot, heh.

48 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:18:57am

re: #47 thedopefishlives

Well, that explains a lot, heh.

Commie.

49 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:19:40am

re: #48 Gus

Commie.

I'm such a commie, I drink pink tea instead of green or black.

50 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:20:07am

re: #49 thedopefishlives

I'm such a commie, I drink pink tea instead of green or black.

Better red than sleepy.

51 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:20:44am

re: #8 Cheechako

I'm not much of a computer expert and have a question. Currently I'm using Firefox 3.6.28 and Firefox wants me to up grade to Firefox 12.0. Is this a good up-grade? When Firefox started "improving" I read that newer versions were not very good and had many bugs?

So, the question is: Should I up-grade to 12.0?

This may be missed by you since it's the next morning now but:
Skip Firefox.
Install Chrome instead.
You'll be much happier.

52 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:22:23am

re: #50 Gus

Better red than sleepy.

I have a bit of an issue with chronic tiredness anyway. Actually, I'm going to see a doctor about that, along with a few other health issues, on Tuesday. I hate going to the doctor, but I have a wife and a kid now and I owe it to them to make sure the ticker keeps on tickin'.

53 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:26:20am

re: #52 thedopefishlives

I have a bit of an issue with chronic tiredness anyway. Actually, I'm going to see a doctor about that, along with a few other health issues, on Tuesday. I hate going to the doctor, but I have a wife and a kid now and I owe it to them to make sure the ticker keeps on tickin'.

As long as I can remember I've always been tired. Never enough sleep or now some body part that doesn't get enough rest. Weird part is that I can handle not getting enough sleep better now than when I was younger.

This is making me sleepy.

54 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:28:53am

re: #53 Gus

As long as I can remember I've always been tired. Never enough sleep or now some body part that doesn't get enough rest. Weird part is that I can handle not getting enough sleep better now than when I was younger.

This is making me sleepy.

I do wish that I had retained my ability to run myself ragged and then turn around and sleep for 18 straight hours that I had when I was younger, though. That would feel pretty nice every now and again.

55 AK-47%  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:30:26am

re: #39 darthstar

Interesting replies to my comment on facebook "Right fuckin' on, Mr. President"

The change in attitude is, in fact, generational. In another 15 years, people will forget we ever had this debate.

I hope so. I thought the debate on contraception was over 20 years ago, too

56 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:31:26am

re: #54 thedopefishlives

I do wish that I had retained my ability to run myself ragged and then turn around and sleep for 18 straight hours that I had when I was younger, though. That would feel pretty nice every now and again.

I'm lucky if I can get 8 hours of straight sleep. Of course I will nap from time to time. That kind of sucks though because I'll use up my coffee quicker.

57 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:32:52am

re: #56 Gus

I'm lucky if I can get 8 hours of straight sleep. Of course I will nap from time to time. That kind of sucks though because I'll use up my coffee quicker.

Yeah, that's how I am now. My wife grumbles because I get up so early even on weekends, but I can't sleep in like I used to anymore. And I have found that it is rather futile for me to try to get to sleep too early on weekdays. Easier for me to just summon caffeine the next day than to try to force more sleep than my body will take.

58 darthstar  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:33:06am

re: #56 Gus

I'm lucky if I can get 8 hours of straight sleep. Of course I will nap from time to time. That kind of sucks though because I'll use up my coffee quicker.

Have you tried gay sleep?
//

Me, I go to bed around 9:30 or 10:00 and wake up at 5:30. It's not easy sleeping through the night like that, but apparently somebody has to do it.

59 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:34:07am

re: #58 darthstar

Have you tried gay sleep?
//

Me, I go to bed around 9:30 or 10:00 and wake up at 5:30. It's not easy sleeping through the night like that, but apparently somebody has to do it.

I'm a homosleeptual.

60 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:34:54am
61 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:38:16am

re: #60 Gus

Classy...

Fox News Smears Obama As A Drug Dealer

I don't even want to think about the comments that must be appearing over at Faux News right about now.

62 darthstar  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:39:12am

re: #60 Gus

Classy...

Fox News Smears Obama As A Drug Dealer

Hope is a drug.

63 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:39:37am

re: #61 thedopefishlives

I don't even want to think about the comments that must be appearing over at Faux News right about now.

I haven't looked at any wingnut site in weeks. It's the never ending insanity which will eventually lead to "peak wingnut" which some say is unattainable. ;)

64 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:40:18am

re: #63 Gus

I haven't looked at any wingnuts site in weeks. It's the never ending insanity which will eventually lead to "peak wingnut" which some say is unattainable. ;)

Are you suffering from withdrawal symptoms?

65 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:40:59am

re: #64 thedopefishlives

Are you suffering from withdrawal symptoms?

Not yet! Well. My hands are shaking less.

//

67 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:47:40am

re: #65 Gus

Not yet! Well. My hands are shaking less.

//

I bet your blood pressure is probably coming down a bit, too. Well, we can give you some meds for that./

68 darthstar  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:54:33am

Okay...the beach beckons. Happy Friday everyone.

69 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:57:40am

Christie Vetoes Obamacare Health Insurance Exchange in New Jersey

After months of mulling his options, Gov. Chris Christie vetoed state legislation Thursday that would have established a health insurance exchange in New Jersey, a fundamental step in implementing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act—known coloquially as "Obamacare"—in the state.

Christie had until Thursday, May 10, to make a decision on Assembly Bill #2171, passed by the New Jersey state Legislature in March, or the bill would have become law, with or without his signature.

Christie said that because the U.S. Supreme Court [SCOTUS] decided to take on Obamacare in March, just 10 days after the New Jersey Assembly passed the health exchange bill, the Affordable Care Act "might not survive [legal] scrutiny."...

70 Interesting Times  Fri, May 11, 2012 6:59:55am
71 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:00:36am

Governor Walker comes out as anti-labor

Not that anyone's really surprised, I guess.

72 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:00:52am

Is Tweetdeck down?

73 Varek Raith  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:03:17am
74 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:04:18am

I give up. OK, maybe for an hour. But right about now I'm feeling a part of any great "American community." Welcome to the United States of Narcissism. It's all about me. He with the most toys money wins. Now bend over.

75 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:07:30am
76 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:07:38am
77 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:07:58am

re: #75 Gus

re: #76 Gus

Words fail me.

78 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:09:04am

re: #77 thedopefishlives

re: #76 Gus

Words fail me.

Yep. See what I mean? (RE #74). All of it. Including the Christie veto. It might as well be 1952.

79 Varek Raith  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:09:45am

re: #76 Gus

[Embedded content]

Fox and Friends!
Der, Derp and Derpy.

80 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:09:47am

Fox News doing its best to be a propaganda arm aren't they?

81 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:10:09am

Three cheers for the red, white and bleh...

[Falls to the ground.]

82 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:10:17am

re: #78 Gus

Yep. See what I mean? (RE #74). All of it. Including the Christie veto. It might as well be 1952.

Ugh. It's like I'm living in a bizarro world. Proud to be an American? Hardly.

83 Varek Raith  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:13:03am
84 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:13:41am
85 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:13:55am

re: #83 Varek Raith

Bill Donohue: "Nature Has Ordained" That Only Men And Women "Can Have A Family. Gay People Have Been Disqualified From Nature"
Bill Derp has been disqualified from having a brain.

That stupid old argument. People don't always get married to create a family.

86 iossarian  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:15:14am

re: #84 Killgore Trout

Banks still playing dangerous games.
Regulators Looking into JPMorgan Trading Activities Before $2 Billion Loss

Surprise quotient: zero.

Bet the bankers all got paid shedloads of money though. Happy days. Hookers and blow.

87 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:15:49am

re: #83 Varek Raith

Bill Donohue: "Nature Has Ordained" That Only Men And Women "Can Have A Family. Gay People Have Been Disqualified From Nature"
Bill Derp has been disqualified from having a brain.

Same old, same old from Donohue. Bigoted and willfully ignorant to the end; ignoring the reality that his statement is, among other things, demonstrably false.

88 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:16:43am

re: #86 iossarian

Surprise quotient: zero.

Bet the bankers all got paid shedloads of money though. Happy days. Hookers and blow.

It's only a matter of time until they crash the global economy again.

89 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:16:50am

re: #83 Varek Raith

Bill Donohue: "Nature Has Ordained" That Only Men And Women "Can Have A Family. Gay People Have Been Disqualified From Nature"
Bill Derp has been disqualified from having a brain.

This is the same guy who wants to have the law discriminate against LGBT people but then whines whenever the Catholic Church is portrayed in an anything but flattering light. Donohue's a jerkoff. He's turning into a Catholic Bryan Fischer.

90 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:17:58am

re: #89 HappyWarrior

This is the same guy who wants to have the law discriminate against LGBT people but then whines whenever the Catholic Church is portrayed in an anything but flattering light. Donohue's a jerkoff. He's turning into a Catholic Bryan Fischer.

Oh, not turning into. This is nothing new for him. He just has started getting more exposure again recently.

91 Varek Raith  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:18:07am

Wow. I can't fathom how Steve Doocy makes infinitely dumber statements.
That's gotta be against the laws of physics.

92 Varek Raith  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:19:59am

Breaking News
Obama is President of NewsCorp
More@Derp

93 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:20:08am

re: #85 Gus

That stupid old argument. People don't always get married to create a family.

Ah, but under Catholic teachings it is. Wrong as his position may be, it's perfectly in line with what the Church says.

94 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:22:56am

re: #90 Simply Sarah

Oh, not turning into. This is nothing new for him. He just has started getting more exposure again recently.

True enough.

95 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:23:30am

re: #53 Gus

As long as I can remember I've always been tired. Never enough sleep or now some body part that doesn't get enough rest. Weird part is that I can handle not getting enough sleep better now than when I was younger.

This is making me sleepy.

It's a mysterious process called "getting older."

96 Obdicut  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:23:31am

re: #92 Varek Raith

Anything wrong in the US: Obama's fault.

Anything good in the US: In spite of Obama.

97 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:24:15am

re: #91 Varek Raith

Wow. I can't fathom how Steve Doocy makes infinitely dumber statements.
That's gotta be against the laws of physics.

Cartoon financial news from the Fox Cartoon-News Channel. The people in that segment even look and sound like cartoon characters. So JP Morgan Chase loses 2 billion dollars on volatile derivatives investments. They'll live I'm sure. That's the way these banks assholes make their money. The Fed will turn around and blindly give them another 0 percent interest "loan." Pigs at the trough. SNAFU.

98 Eventual Carrion  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:30:07am

re: #83 Varek Raith

Bill Donohue: "Nature Has Ordained" That Only Men And Women "Can Have A Family. Gay People Have Been Disqualified From Nature"
Bill Derp has been disqualified from having a brain.

Nature has many examples of asexual reproduction. Maybe he should have paid a little more attention in science class rather then filling his head with mythology and misinformation. And then I am sure a worm coupling would blow his mind taking it to the other side from asexual reproduction.

99 Eventual Carrion  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:31:35am

re: #90 Simply Sarah

Oh, not turning into. This is nothing new for him. He just has started getting more exposure again recently.

Yeah, but Romney has someone to bet with now at least.

100 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:32:16am

A Shock From JPMorgan Is New Fodder for Reformers

It didn’t take long for bank reformers to say we told you so.

JPMorgan Chase’s $2 billion trading loss, which was disclosed on Thursday, could give supporters of tighter industry regulation a huge new piece of ammunition as they fight a last-ditch battle with the banks over new federal rules that may redefine how banks do business.

“The enormous loss JPMorgan announced today is just the latest evidence that what banks call ‘hedges’ are often risky bets that so-called ‘too big to fail’ banks have no business making,” said Senator Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat who co-wrote the language at the heart of the battle between the financial and government worlds, in a statement. “Today’s announcement is a stark reminder of the need for regulators to establish tough, effective standards.”

The centerpiece of the new regulations, the so-called Volcker Rule, forbids banks from making bets with their own money, and a final version is expected to be issued by federal officials in the coming months. With the financial crisis fading from view, banks have successfully pushed for some exceptions that critics say will allow them to simply make proprietary trades under a different name, in this case for the purposes of hedging and market-making...

101 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:34:05am

Good morning lizards...here's a novel idea...

Free birth control and sterilization for drug addicts!

Group pays drug addicts to get sterilized or receive long-term birth control, sparks criticism

A controversial nonprofit group is seeking out drug-addicted women and paying them cold hard cash to get sterilized.

The group, Project Prevention, hangs stark ads in clinics and homeless shelters to reel in drug users. The posters feature hard-hitting taglines such as, "Don't let a pregnancy ruin your drug habit," and "She has her daddy's eyes ... and her mommy's heroin addiction."

Barbara Harris, founder of the program, insists she is only trying to help prevent unwanted pregnancies, which often lead to children being fed into an overwhelmed foster care system, and that she's not forcing anyone to get sterilized.

"I think it's really important for people to understand that the majority of women we sterilize are women who have had multiple children and don't want anymore," she told the Daily News. "It's their decision."

"And to say, 'Let's go ahead and let them keep having babies because one day they might decide to clean up and keep one?' It's just not fair," she said. "And it's preventable."

Harris said that the last 20 women she paid to get sterilized had been pregnant a total of 121 times.

"Thirty were either aborted, stillborn or died after being born," she said. "Seventy-eight are in foster care."

102 Interesting Times  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:35:25am

We now present your morning dead-thread derp. 9_9

OMG Obamas background is teh mystery! We know NOTHING about him!!1! #vettheprez #WAR

103 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:36:25am

So JP Morgan loses 2 billion. If I heard correctly they're going to cut back on banking hours. Which means those employed will be making less -- spending less. They will feel the effect. Those at the top? Business as usual an barely felt. The execs will get their bonuses.

104 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:37:30am

re: #102 Interesting Times

We now present your morning dead-thread derp. 9_9

I've been trying to ignore him. Still digging.

105 Interesting Times  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:39:33am

re: #104 Gus

I've been trying to ignore him. Still digging.

Remember how Obama ultimately handled the long-form birth certificate issue? Perhaps he's planning a similar move with his college transcripts, perfectly timed to make dribbling wingnuts look even dumber than they presently are :)

106 dragonfire1981  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:39:56am

You know all that religious right support Romney picked up yesterday?

I think he just lost most of it:

Romney says he is "fine" with gay couples adopting

107 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:41:10am

re: #106 dragonfire1981

You know all that religious right support Romney picked up yesterday?

I think he just lost most of it:

Romney says he is "fine" with gay couples adopting

Somewhere out there, a wingnut is crying, "Why do you keep toying with my emotions, Mr. Romney?!?"

108 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:42:00am

re: #106 dragonfire1981

You know all that religious right support Romney picked up yesterday?

I think he just lost most of it:

Romney says he is "fine" with gay couples adopting

Doesn't he realize that gay couple adopting straight babies will only turn those babies gay and create more gays in this world!!!!!!

//

109 dragonfire1981  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:42:01am
110 AK-47%  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:43:12am

I recall the old Christian adage of "Hate the sin, love the sinner". But for some people their attitude about gays seems to be that the sin and the sinner are identical.

111 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:46:24am
112 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:49:36am

Chicago police bulk up with $1m in riot gear for 'peaceful' Nato summit protests

Police in Chicago have spent $1m on riot-control equipment in the last few months ahead of next month's Nato summit, which is expected to attract thousands of anti-war protesters.

113 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:53:27am

re: #112 NJDhockeyfan

Chicago police bulk up with $1m in riot gear for 'peaceful' Nato summit protests

I seriously doubt Chicago is going to let these idiots riot. Let's hope we don't see any terrorism beyond harmless white powder mailings. I assume the Feds have informants on the case.

114 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:53:40am

re: #112 NJDhockeyfan

Chicago police bulk up with $1m in riot gear for 'peaceful' Nato summit protests

I'm sure that 1 million was wisely spent.

//

115 dragonfire1981  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:53:49am

re: #110 Expand Your Ground

I recall the old Christian adage of "Hate the sin, love the sinner". But for some people their attitude about gays seems to be that the sin and the sinner are identical.

I personally interpret it as: I may disagree with certain aspects of your lifestyle but that has no bearing on the way I will treat you. I will still afford you the same courtesy, respect and dignity I would afford to anyone else regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation or any other means of classification.

Or, to put it more simply: I will treat other human beings the way I wish others to treat me.

116 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:54:52am

re: #113 Killgore Trout

I seriously doubt Chicago is going to let these idiots riot. Let's hope we don't see any terrorism beyond harmless white powder mailings. I assume the Feds have informants on the case.

We should probably open up internment camps for these hippies and avoid the possibility altogether!

117 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:55:07am

re: #115 dragonfire1981

I personally interpret it as: I may disagree with certain aspects of your lifestyle but that has no bearing on the way I will treat you. I will still afford you the same courtesy, respect and dignity I would afford to anyone else regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation or any other means of classification.

Or, to put it more simply: I will treat other human beings the way I wish others to treat me.

That's how it should be. Unfortunately, a lot of the rabid right-winger Christians still somehow think it's OK to look down on someone they feel is "less moral". As if we don't all have skeletons in our closet.

118 Lidane  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:58:13am

re: #116 Gus

We should probably open up internment camps for these hippies and avoid the possibility altogether!

I hear FEMA has a few beds available at their concentration camps. Send the hippies there.

/Alex Jones

119 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:58:14am

re: #113 Killgore Trout

I seriously doubt Chicago is going to let these idiots riot. Let's hope we don't see any terrorism beyond harmless white powder mailings. I assume the Feds have informants on the case.

If the violence is kept to a minimum...broken storefront glass, white powder, Molotov cocktails, brick throwing, etc...it will be considered a peaceful protest.

120 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 11, 2012 7:58:56am

re: #119 NJDhockeyfan

If the violence is kept to a minimum...broken storefront glass, white powder, Molotov cocktails, brick throwing, etc...it will be considered a peaceful protest.

Yeah, I think that's the best we can hope for.

122 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:00:23am

[Throws wrench.]

123 Interesting Times  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:00:47am

re: #116 Gus

We should probably open up internment camps for these hippies and avoid the possibility altogether!

Michelle "The Twitchy" Malkin approves.

124 SidewaysQuark  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:00:53am

This is what passes for "clever satire" among conservatives these days:

Julia's Circle of Life

If the intent was a satire of the worldview of the right wing, it succeeded.

125 Obdicut  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:01:10am

re: #122 Gus

Thows sabot.

126 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:01:42am

re: #125 Obdicut

Thows sabot.

Like that? Just found it. Let's go protest NATO in Chicago man!!!!

127 AK-47%  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:03:10am

re: #113 Killgore Trout

I seriously doubt Chicago is going to let these idiots riot. Let's hope we don't see any terrorism beyond harmless white powder mailings. I assume the Feds have informants on the case.

Rahm Emmanuel has a reputation as a control freak and he is not going let anything get out of hand.

128 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:03:16am

Prominent Ron Paul Supporter Muses About Assassinating Mitt Romney

The co-founder of Veterans for Ron Paul devoted a segment on his talk show earlier this week to musing aloud about whether or not Mitt Romney should be assassinated.

Adam Kokesh, a prominent Paul supporter who has a YouTube talk show called "Adam vs. The Man" and was backed by Paul in his 2010 congressional bid, read parts of an email from a listener contemplating whether to kill Romney.

"There is a way the nomination can be given to Ron Paul," he read aloud. "There is a way to fix the situation we currently face with Obama versus Romney. Romney needs to die." Kokesh says the email came from a 19-year-old in Mississippi whom he wouldn't name.

In the video, Kokesh says of the email, "I have never endorsed such a plan. I have never suggested such a plan. But I cannot deny that the thought hasn't crossed my mind as well as so many other libertarians and Ron Paul supporters of late."

Kokesh says that "obviously this raises some interesting moral issues" and "it sure is tempting isn't it, to think that you could take out one life and prevent the deaths of so many others."

"Whatever you do, please please please don't forward this video to the Secret Service," Kokesh concludes.

Reached by BuzzFeed, Kokesh clarified that he wasn't endorsing the plan.

I suspect the Secret Service will be knocking on his door today.

129 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:03:32am

re: #127 Expand Your Ground

Rahm Emmanuel has a reputation as a control freak and he is not going let anything get out of hand.

Yep.

130 Obdicut  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:04:35am

re: #126 Gus

This is pretty cool:

German Police Used Only 85 Bullets Against People in 2011

"49 warning shots, 36 shots on suspects. 15 persons were injured, 6 were killed."

Meanwhile, in the U.S., where the population is little less than four times the size of Germany's, well, we can get to 85 in just one sitting, thank you very much. 84 shots fired at one murder suspect in Harlem, another 90 shot at one fleeing unarmed man in Los Angeles

131 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:04:41am

re: #98 RayFerd

Nature has many examples of asexual reproduction. Maybe he should have paid a little more attention in science class rather then filling his head with mythology and misinformation. And then I am sure a worm coupling would blow his mind taking it to the other side from asexual reproduction.

Don't give him too many ideas. So species of aphid are born already pregnant.

132 lawhawk  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:04:44am

About that $2 billion loss at JP Morgan. Seems that a significant percentage may be the work of one guy working out of a London office who was pushing these derivatives as a hedge on risk, but instead flooded the company with red ink.

The firm put on a complicated strategy that bet on the improving credit of selected companies. At the time, the trades were widely thought to be placed by a large firm backed with ample capital. The trader behind the strategy became known as "the London whale," though we now know that it was a French-born JPMorgan employee named Bruno Michel Iksil.

JPMorgan Chase acknowledges $2 billion trading loss

As the bet moved against the London Whale, Jamie Dimon brushed it off and even went so far as to say it was a "complete tempest in a teapot," during last quarter's earnings call. In off the record quotes, some JPM employees said the bank had run tests that showed that the strategy worked in any market conditions.

Huh?

This reminds me when a trader told me that Morgan Stanley's sub-prime bets were 100 percent hedged, except they weren't. Perhaps that's why Dimon called the mistake "egregious" and "self inflicted" and vowed to "learn from it ... fix it and move on."

133 Lidane  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:05:00am

re: #83 Varek Raith

Bill Donohue: "Nature Has Ordained" That Only Men And Women "Can Have A Family. Gay People Have Been Disqualified From Nature"
Bill Derp has been disqualified from having a brain.

I hope he keeps flogging this all the way through the election, especially now that the Romney camp has said that they will actively campaign on passing a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

And I'm still waiting for these bigots to tell me when we have ever amended the Constitution to take away equal rights.

134 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:05:37am

re: #130 Obdicut

This is pretty cool:

German Police Used Only 85 Bullets Against People in 2011

85 bullets? That like the average shots fired from one cop at one "suspect" holding onto a cell phone that "looked like a gun" in New York City.

//

135 Daniel Ballard  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:05:44am

Just got time for a friendly drive by
Ran across this music. Dude sounds like Freddie Mercury. Band called Fun. The song is Some Nights.

Intro
[Link: open.spotify.com...]

The track itself
[Link: open.spotify.com...]

136 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:06:22am

re: #135 Daniel Ballard

Just got time for a friendly drive by
Ran across this music. Dude sounds like Freddie Mercury. Band called Fun. The song is Some Nights.

Intro
[Link: open.spotify.com...]

The track itself
[Link: open.spotify.com...]

[Embedded content]

Don't forget about the ramp closures in LA today.

137 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:06:40am
138 iossarian  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:06:48am

re: #130 Obdicut

This is pretty cool:

German Police Used Only 85 Bullets Against People in 2011

I prefer to live in a country where everyone is as free as possible to fire guns at everyone else.

139 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:07:15am

re: #138 iossarian

I prefer to live in a country where everyone is as free as possible to fire guns at everyone else.

Especially if a gang of thugs attacks you trying to cut your hair.

140 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:07:27am

re: #121 Gus

NATO: Alliance partner Israel not invited to Chicago summit, chief denies any Turkey link!!!

And the chef for the summit denied he is serving Sharia turkey as well.
/

141 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:07:44am

re: #132 lawhawk

Whoopsy. I bet that's coming out of his paycheck.

142 wrenchwench  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:07:45am

re: #122 Gus

[Throws wrench.]

Hey!

143 iossarian  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:07:47am

re: #139 Gus

Especially if a gang of thugs attacks you trying to cut your hair.

No, then you should just calmly accept your fate as one of life's underlings.

144 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:08:12am

re: #143 iossarian

No, then you should just calmly accept your fate as one of life's underlings.

Scene at the country club from a 1980s movie.

//

145 Lidane  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:08:32am

More rational GOP rhetoric:

Report: Pittsburgh Tea Party Chair Compares Obama To Nazi Regime

At a Tea Party rally two weeks ago, Pittsburgh Tea Party Chair Patricia “Patti” Weaver told supporters that President Barack Obama, like the Nazis in World War II, is an “an evil in this country that you are standing up to,” according to a recent story in the daily Butler Eagle newspaper. Weaver is an elected representative for Allegheny County on the Pennsylvania’s Republican state committee and mounted an aborted campaign for Allegheny County Controller in 2011.

146 iossarian  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:09:25am

Etch-a-Sketch Mitt, The Bigoted Twit

147 lawhawk  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:10:21am

re: #137 Gus

Ah ... the Rampture.

148 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:10:23am
149 The Left  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:10:56am

re: #144 Gus

Scene at the country club from a 1980s movie.

//

"The world needs ditchdiggers too!"

--Caddyshack

150 Lidane  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:11:36am
151 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:11:46am

re: #147 lawhawk

Ah ... the Rampture.

152 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:13:13am

re: #149 Millicent Islam

"The world needs ditchdiggers too!"

--Caddyshack

Mittens should just start wearing those extra huge Annie Hall glasses.

153 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:16:25am

re: #137 Gus

Trying to remember where I saw the article, but there was one on how the original Carmageddon produced a sudden spate of pregnancies in the Los Angeles area. See, even the Carpocalypse has its upsides, if you plan for it.

154 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:17:34am

A belated good morning to the resident Lizards.

Feline Overlord went to the vet today for a follow-up on the eye.

Eyeball pressure is normal, so the steroid eyedrop is being discontinued. The blood in the pupil is lessening, but still covering about half of the eye, so the other eyedrop is continuing. His overall blood pressure is high normal, so his dosage of medication there (pills) is being tweaked slightly.

He got home from the vet in a cranky mood, ate half a can of cat food, and then allowed himself to be petted for a while before taking a nap while I went back to work.

A good enough prognosis that he does not need another follow-up until after Memorial Day. (Though the current challenge is getting a pet sitter who can give pills over Memorial Day weekend since I will be away.)

155 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:19:12am

We can always count on Joe Biden for a good laugh...

Joe Biden Makes Sign of the Cross in Front of Rabbis

156 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:19:15am

DJI not effected much by the JPM news.

12,902.53
+47.49 (0.37%)

157 The Left  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:19:41am

I see the wingnuts over at BrietBlart are spinning madly away over Mitt's haircutting issues....

158 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:19:51am

re: #153 thedopefishlives

Trying to remember where I saw the article, but there was one on how the original Carmageddon produced a sudden spate of pregnancies in the Los Angeles area. See, even the Carpocalypse has its upsides, if you plan for it.

I thought the Carpocalypse was when all the fish come out of the Mississippi River and overrun St. Paul.
O_O

159 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:20:17am

re: #154 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Oh good. Glad to hear that the Feline Overlord is doing okay.

160 Varek Raith  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:20:20am

re: #158 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Trying to remember where I saw the article, but there was one on how the original Carmageddon produced a sudden spate of pregnancies in the Los Angeles area. See, even the Carpocalypse has its upsides, if you plan for it.

I thought the Carpocalypse was when all the fish come out of the Mississippi River and overrun St. Paul.
O_O

*Shakes head*

161 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:20:50am

re: #158 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I thought the Carpocalypse was when all the fish come out of the Mississippi River and overrun St. Paul.
O_O

No, that's just a fish fry Friday.

162 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:21:14am

re: #157 Millicent Islam

I see the wingnuts over at BrietBlart are spinning madly away over Mitt's haircutting issues...

Tough guys no doubt. I'd like to see their reaction if this happened to one of their sons.

163 Varek Raith  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:22:25am
164 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:22:42am

re: #162 Gus

Tough guys now doubt. I'd like to see their reaction if this happened to one of their sons.

Could kill two birds with one stone by having a bunch of rowdy teens play a "prank" by grabbing him and waterboarding instead of a haircut.
///

165 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:22:54am

re: #157 Millicent Islam

I see the wingnuts over at BrietBlart are spinning madly away over Mitt's haircutting issues...

I see...

166 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:23:26am

re: #163 Varek Raith

Romney Will Increase Military Spending By $2.1 Trillion With No Plan To Pay For It
Fiscal Responsibility!

Just budgeting for a war there instead of it ending up being paid for by spending resolutions as things go along.

167 The Left  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:23:29am

re: #165 Gus

I see...

[Embedded content]

That ABL response was hilarious!

169 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:24:03am

re: #167 Millicent Islam

That ABL response was hilarious!

Freaking Donald Douglas. One of the original doughy pant loads of the 101st Fighting Keyboards.

170 bratwurst  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:24:29am

re: #130 Obdicut

This is pretty cool:

German Police Used Only 85 Bullets Against People in 2011

Come on now...you know darn well we could never have that situation here due to the ongoing crisis with violent hippies. /

172 iossarian  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:26:31am

re: #168 Daniel Ballard

Same sex marriage was a fact of the early Christian church?

Yeah but those early Christians didn't have guns and McDonald's so they're not, in fact, real Christians.

I bet they didn't even watch NASCAR. That's how heathen and ungodly they were.

YEEHAW!

*shoots tin can with shotgun*

173 ProGunLiberal  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:26:42am
174 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:26:56am

re: #173 ProGunLiberal

Well, this happened in Norway:

Man hurls shoe at killer Breivik during Norway trial

Who throws a shoe? Honestly!

175 Obdicut  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:27:05am

re: #168 Daniel Ballard

Same sex marriage was a fact of the early Christian church?

No. That is based on very bad research.

176 The Left  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:27:14am

Fox News Smears Obama As A Drug Dealer

As Fox News discussed the report that Mitt Romney forcibly cut a high school classmate's hair, the channel's hosts steered conversation toward President Obama admitting to drug use in his memoir, Dreams From My Father.

But Fox could not confine itself to reliving the details of a book published 17 years ago -- its hosts baselessly suggested that Obama had dealt drugs.

177 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:27:49am

re: #168 Daniel Ballard

Same sex marriage was a fact of the early Christian church?

That's interesting. I guess it should be too surprising. The Church's views on abortion has varied widely over 2,000 years as well.

178 Varek Raith  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:27:54am

re: #176 Millicent Islam

Fox News Smears Obama As A Drug Dealer

How goes it in the land of the Highlander movies?

179 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:28:03am
180 Daniel Ballard  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:28:47am

re: #175 Obdicut

Okay I'll repeat my caveat from the Page-My first look at the material. Do you think I should hide hide the Page, or is it worth kicking around?

181 Lidane  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:28:53am

Well, this was inevitable:

Rush Limbaugh Attacks Shep Smith Over Gay Marriage Comments

Rush Limbaugh went after Fox News host Shepard Smith for comments he made Wednesday that seemed to endorse President Obama's support for same-sex marriage.

Following Obama's announcement on Wednesday, Smith described the president as now sitting on the "right side of the 21st century." He then asked his colleague Bret Baier if the GOP would campaign against same-sex marriage "while sitting very firmly, without much question, on the wrong side of history on it."

182 The Left  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:29:38am

re: #179 Gus

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I see these deflections are obviously part of a wider wingnut strategy!

re: #178 Varek Raith

How goes it in the land of the Highlander movies?

Hey Varek! Good to see you! Things are fine here but cold-- maybe 45 Fahrenheit. How are you?

183 Obdicut  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:29:39am

re: #180 Daniel Ballard

Okay I'll repeat my caveat from the Page-My first look at the material. Do you think I should hide hide the Page, or is it worth kicking around?

I'll dig up the good refutation of it and post it there. No need to hide it, I'm sure it'll be kicked around the web plenty. It has in one form or another for a long time.

184 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:30:03am

re: #182 Millicent Islam

Hey Varek! Good to see you! Things are fine here but cold-- maybe 45 Fahrenheit. How are you?

Brr! Keep warm over there, you and Jimmah.

185 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:30:53am

re: #182 Millicent Islam

I see these deflections are obviously part of a wider wingnut strategy!

re: #178 Varek Raith

Hey Varek! Good to see you! Things are fine here but cold-- maybe 45 Fahrenheit. How are you?

Drink more octopus juice with whisky.

//

186 The Left  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:31:57am

re: #185 Gus

Drink more octopus juice with whisky.

//

I think Jimmah and I are going to the pub tomorrow-- first time in a while. If so we'll probably drunk post when we get back!

187 Obdicut  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:32:27am

re: #180 Daniel Ballard

Here's the refutation.

[Link: www.learnedhand.com...]

Thus the Greek words that Boswell translates as "be united together" in the third section of the document quoted above are, in fact, rather ordinary words that mean "become brothers" (adelphoi genesthai); and when they are translated in this more straightforward manner, they impart a quite different sense to the reader.

188 Varek Raith  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:32:37am

re: #182 Millicent Islam

I see these deflections are obviously part of a wider wingnut strategy!

re: #178 Varek Raith

Hey Varek! Good to see you! Things are fine here but cold-- maybe 45 Fahrenheit. How are you?

Good, good. Chilly here too.

189 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:33:07am

re: #188 Varek Raith

Good, good. Chilly here too.

That's funny. Kind of chilly here as well!

See! What global warming? ///////////////////////////

190 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:33:44am

re: #189 Gus

That's funny. Kind of chilly here as well!

See! What global warming? ///

We've got your global warming, freaking 75 degree heat threatening to blister off all of my fair white pasty skin.

191 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:33:48am

Nigeria soldiers arrest Boko Haram commander

The arrested operation commander was identified by Nigerian authorities as Suleiman Mohammed, a Yoruba tribe member from Ogbomosho in southwest Nigeria. Sophisticated weapons were recovered during the raid, including a rifle, 10 improvised explosive devices (IEDs), three pistols, and 1,000 rounds of live ammunition. No shots were fired during the raid on Mr. Mohammed’s home.

192 Varek Raith  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:33:59am

re: #189 Gus

That's funny. Kind of chilly here as well!

See! What global warming? ///

I know! When two yahoos on the intertoobz can outdo climatologists....

193 The Left  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:34:29am

Rush Limbaugh: 1965 Was "A Great Year; Bullying Was Legal"

Rush Limbaugh today dismissed a Washington Post report detailing "pranks" and "troubling incidents" Mitt Romney engaged in as a high school student, saying: "You had long hair in 1965, you were gonna get razzed. It didn't matter. They weren't gonna think you were in the Beatles. If you had long hair in 1965, you were gonna get made fun of." Limbaugh added: "See, 1965's a great year; bullying was legal."

194 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:34:57am

re: #186 Millicent Islam

I think Jimmah and I are going to the pub tomorrow-- first time in a while. If so we'll probably drunk post when we get back!

How did the oatmeal chili come out?
:)

195 The Left  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:35:26am

re: #194 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

How did the oatmeal chili come out?
:)

Good! We're finishing it up today. :)

Glad to hear it sounds like things are improving for your kitty.

196 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:36:02am

re: #190 thedopefishlives

We've got your global warming, freaking 75 degree heat threatening to blister off all of my fair white pasty skin.

Yep. Saw this before:

re: #38 Expand Your Ground

Feels like a blow dryer outside here in Germany, brewing up for a summer thunderstorm in May.

197 Varek Raith  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:36:10am

re: #195 Millicent Islam

Good! We're finishing it up today. :)

Where's mine???
:(

198 The Left  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:36:38am

re: #196 Gus

Yep. Saw this before:

re: #38 Expand Your Ground

It's snowing in Inverness and Aberdeen.

199 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:37:03am

re: #195 Millicent Islam

Good! We're finishing it up today. :)

I had oatmeal once. I know what it's like to suffer. -- Mitt Romney

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201 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:38:33am
202 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:38:36am

re: #198 Millicent Islam

It's snowing in Inverness and Aberdeen.

The Mrs. Fish would be ecstatic. Of course, she's starting to actually get into the swing of spring now, so I don't know.

203 Varek Raith  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:39:20am

re: #198 Millicent Islam

It's snowing in Inverness and Aberdeen.

Snow! What the hell is that?!?!

204 AK-47%  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:40:45am

re: #155 NJDhockeyfan

We can always count on Joe Biden for a good laugh...

Joe Biden Makes Sign of the Cross in Front of Rabbis

He was just checking that everything was in place: spectacles, testicles, billfold, mobile...

205 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:41:23am

re: #203 Varek Raith

Snow! What the hell is that?!?!

Temperature based fall-out caused by the triggering of a large scale endothermic weapon.

206 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:41:50am

Lovely.

Top Romney aide gleefully outed transgender woman, ending her political career

Fehrnstrom saved his cheap shots for smaller-time Massachusetts pols. When a political activist and gadfly named Althea Garrison was elected to the Massachusetts House of Representatives, the fact that she was transgender was an open secret in Boston political circles. But Fehrnstrom was the first one to put that information into print—"I can remember his glee when he found the birth certificate," says former Herald reporter Robert Connolly—thus bringing a swift end to Garrison's future on Beacon Hill.

207 AK-47%  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:41:58am

re: #168 Daniel Ballard

Same sex marriage was a fact of the early Christian church?

we had this discussion yesterday.

notions and understanding of (homo)sexuality have changed and, well "evolved" over the years. Something we need to keep in mind when we are reading historical documents and Holy Scriptures as well...

208 Lidane  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:42:09am

re: #200 Varek Raith

Fox's Perino: College Grads "Don't Have A Right To Worry" About Work-Life Balance Until Their "Mid-30s Or Something"

Fuck that ignorant, deluded, uneducated Faux News Barbie doll. She can get bent.

209 AK-47%  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:43:52am

re: #200 Varek Raith

Fox's Perino: College Grads "Don't Have A Right To Worry" About Work-Life Balance Until Their "Mid-30s Or Something"

You know, I thought the "work/life balance" discussion was resolved with the intruduction of the 40-hour workweek.

Another thing that has been tossed aside in the name of the Free Market.

210 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:44:25am

Damn. These people are scum. I used to think Mittens was a creep with some good points but never knew he was this big a creep. He really is a wingnut.

211 Lidane  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:45:09am

re: #209 Expand Your Ground

You know, I thought the "work/life balance" discussion was resolved with the intruduction of the 40-hour workweek.

Another thing that has been tossed aside in the name of the Free Market.

You mean the same 40-hour work week that was the result of union protests and union efforts to create work/life balance? These cretins don't acknowledge anything that unions gave them.

212 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:45:47am

re: #211 Lidane

You mean the same 40-hour work week that was the result of union protests and union efforts to create work/life balance? These cretins don't acknowledge anything that unions gave them.

Wait, the unions did something good?! COMMIE!

213 Daniel Ballard  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:47:28am

.

214 SidewaysQuark  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:50:39am

re: #208 Lidane

Fuck that ignorant, deluded, uneducated Faux News Barbie doll. She can get bent.

I don't know any college grads who worry about a "work-life balance". Most of them able to find jobs spend their 20-somethings working their asses off, in my experience.

I am confident that this current trend of ragging on the efforts of every young person (young by Repub. standards meaning "under 45") in America will bear the fruit at the polls that any dummy could predict.

215 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:50:42am

re: #213 Daniel Ballard

.

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216 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:51:11am

This may create some friction between Bill Clinton and Obama...

Book Claims Bill Clinton Urged Hillary To Run Against 'Incompetent' Obama In 2012

A new book claims that former U.S. President Bill Clinton was so unimpressed with President Barack Obama, he urged his wife Hillary Clinton to quit her job as U.S. secretary of state and run against him in the primaries last summer -- calling the president "amateur" and "incompetent."

The New York Post published excerpts of best-selling and controversial author Edward Klein's unauthorized biography about Obama coming out Monday, "The Amateur," which includes bombshell revelations about the former president's aleged true feelings about Obama.

Reporter Carl Campanile writes that Bill Clinton "unloaded on Obama and pressed Hillary to run against her boss during a gathering in the ex-president's home office in Chappaqua last August that included longtime friends," according to Klein.

"The economy's a mess, it's dead flat. America has lost its Triple-A rating ... You know better than Obama does," Bill Clinton is quoted as saying in the book.

Bill Clinton reportedly continued to say that he had "no relationship" with Obama, who "doesn't know how to be president" and is "incompetent."

Klein based the conversation on interviews with two guests that were present for the Chappaqua meeting. According to those two sources, Hillary Clinton resisted her husband's plea.

217 ProGunLiberal  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:51:54am

re: #191 Killgore Trout

Awww, they didn't shoot him.

218 Obdicut  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:52:22am

re: #216 NJDhockeyfan

The Clinton camp has already called the author a liar, and I have no idea why the allegation is simply being reported as true.

219 SidewaysQuark  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:53:03am

re: #218 Obdicut

The Clinton camp has already called the author a liar, and I have no idea why the allegation is simply being reported as true.

Hey, never let the truth get in the way of a good story!

220 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:53:07am

re: #216 NJDhockeyfan

This may create some friction between Bill Clinton and Obama...

Book Claims Bill Clinton Urged Hillary To Run Against 'Incompetent' Obama In 2012

Doubtful. Everyone was and is well aware about how Bill Clinton felt during the 2008 election. It's no secret. The Clinton campaign was somewhat brutal but that's politics. Water under the bridge.

221 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:55:36am

re: #217 ProGunLiberal

Awww, they didn't shoot him.

He's too valuable as a source of intelligence. His life will be short and hellish.

222 iossarian  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:58:25am

re: #216 NJDhockeyfan

This may create some friction between Bill Clinton and Obama...

Book Claims Bill Clinton Urged Hillary To Run Against 'Incompetent' Obama In 2012

That's the spirit.

223 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:59:09am

re: #206 Gus

Lovely.

Top Romney aide gleefully outed transgender woman, ending her political career

Glee? Glee? Over destroying someone? What the fuck? Then again, after the article yesterday about how offended and disgusted Fehrnstrom supposedly was at the idea of transgendered people getting any sort of support or recognition, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. That man is clearly a hateful excuse for a human being.

224 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 8:59:17am
225 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:00:46am

re: #39 darthstar

Interesting replies to my comment on facebook "Right fuckin' on, Mr. President"

The change in attitude is, in fact, generational. In another 15 years, people will forget we ever had this debate.

Good luck with that -- In 1972 the Supreme Court decided that unmarried people could have contracepton --now we are arguing it again.

226 iossarian  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:00:50am

re: #224 Gus

Obama's college history was an inside job man!

I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS OF ANY OTHER POLITICIAN I'VE VOTED FOR, BUT FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON I CANNOT BRING MYSELF TO BELIEVE THAT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WENT TO HARVARD ON MERIT ALONE

PS I AM NOT A RACIST

227 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:00:55am

re: #223 Simply Sarah

Glee? Glee? Over destroying someone? What the fuck? Then again, after the article yesterday about how offended and disgusted Fehrnstrom supposedly was at the idea of transgendered people getting any sort of support or recognition, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. That man is clearly a hateful excuse for a human being.

Fehrnstrom is a disgusting little man. You ever seen him in action off camera? That is on video tape? He's like this wired, neurotic thing. Like a "bad boss" personality.

228 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:01:33am

re: #46 Gus

Coffee helps prevent madness.

I didn't know that!

229 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:01:42am

Morning all!

230 allegro  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:02:54am

re: #216 NJDhockeyfan

This may create some friction between Bill Clinton and Obama...

Book Claims Bill Clinton Urged Hillary To Run Against 'Incompetent' Obama In 2012

I can see where President Clinton might have issues and I'm sure he would be delighted to be back in the White House as First Gentleman. However, too many of those statements accredited to him just don't make sense, specifically about the economy and credit rating. Clinton knows better than most how little power the President has over that with a recalcitrant Congress and I'm not buying that he's ignorant as to the obstruction going on since 2009.

231 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:03:27am

re: #227 Gus

Fehrnstrom is a disgusting little man. You ever seen him in action off camera? That is on video tape? He's like this wired, neurotic thing. Like a "bad boss" personality.

A waste of carbon and air is what he is. Hell of a wingman, Mitt. Hell of a wingman.

232 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:03:39am

re: #229 ggt

Morning all!

Good morning!

233 Lidane  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:04:01am

re: #214 SidewaysQuark

I don't know any college grads who worry about a "work-life balance". Most of them able to find jobs spend their 20-somethings working their asses off, in my experience.

You're assuming that all new college grads are 22 years old, and that they went through university fresh out of high school. So is she. They're not.

I spent my 20's working my ass off. Spent my early 30's still working my ass off. Decided at 35 that I wasn't going to hit 40 without finishing college. I've spent the last four years finishing both an undergrad degree and an MBA. I graduate tomorrow.

I'm not the only one in this boat. College students these days are getting older, especially in terms of graduate and professional students. And yes, there are work/life balance issues for them, particularly if the student in question has a job and a family. It's ignorant and short sighted of Dana Perino to assume that a college grad doesn't have the "right" to worry about these things. We're not all 22 year old kids.

234 Lidane  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:05:23am

re: #216 NJDhockeyfan

This may create some friction between Bill Clinton and Obama...

You mean the same Bill Clinton that did a campaign ad for Obama about the OBL raid?

235 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:05:37am

re: #230 allegro

I can see where President Clinton might have issues and I'm sure he would be delighted to be back in the White House as First Gentleman. However, too many of those statements accredited to him just don't make sense, specifically about the economy and credit rating. Clinton knows better than most how little power the President has over that with a recalcitrant Congress and I'm not buying that he's ignorant as to the obstruction going on since 2009.

Why would two people present at the meeting in Chappaqua say that? Do they have some sort of ax to grind with the President?

236 allegro  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:06:28am

re: #233 Lidane

It's ignorant and short sighted of Dana Perino to assume that a college grad doesn't have the "right" to worry about these things. We're not all 22 year old kids.

Those 22 year old college grads have PLENTY to worry about as well. No right to worry? WTF?

237 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:07:01am

re: #193 Millicent Islam

Rush Limbaugh: 1965 Was "A Great Year; Bullying Was Legal"

1965 was before the Civil Rights act, The Pill and what else?

It was great if you were white and male . . .

238 Lidane  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:07:08am

re: #236 allegro

Those 22 year old college grads have PLENTY to worry about as well. No right to worry? WTF?

Well, that too. Especially with the clusterfuck that is student loan debt.

239 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:07:14am

re: #216 NJDhockeyfan

This may create some friction between Bill Clinton and Obama...

Book Claims Bill Clinton Urged Hillary To Run Against 'Incompetent' Obama In 2012

I don't care how much of this may or may not be true. Why? Because I don't care what Bill Clinton thinks or has to say.

240 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:09:47am

hahahahahahaha!

JPMorgan shares dive after $2bn trading loss

Mr Dimon said the type of trading that led to the loss would not be banned by the so-called Volcker rule, designed to censure certain types of trading by banks with their own money.

But he acknowledged that the errors would be particularly embarrassing, given his public criticism of the Volcker rule.

241 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:13:54am

because they aren't making enough money already?

Facebook tests 'pay to promote post' tool

The 'promote a post' system has so far only been tested in New Zealand

By paying a small fee users can ensure that information they post on the social network is more visible to friends, family and colleagues.

The tests are being carried out among the social network's users in New Zealand.

Facebook said the goal was to see if users were interested in paying to flag up their information.

242 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:15:44am

re: #239 Simply Sarah

I don't care how much of this may or may not be true. Why? Because I don't care what Bill Clinton thinks or has to say.

Edward Klein

Klein's books have been dismissed by academics and journalists as "not only psychobabble", but "psychoblarney." An example of the criticism:

The Boston Herald has quoted him calling the late Carolyn Bessette Kennedy "a disturbed, neurotic, unstable young woman"; according to the Buffalo News, Klein's book The Kennedy Curse described Bessette Kennedy "sprawled on the floor in front of a sofa, disheveled and hollow-eyed, snorting cocaine with a gaggle of gay fashionistas." The News book review called The Kennedy Curse "a contrived and stretched effort that seeks legitimacy by surrounding a few interesting scoops with historical and psychological analysis," adding of one Klein passage: "He takes a long and involved analysis of Ireland's Great Famine of the 1840s, links it to the emigration of JFK's great-grandfather to Boston, and applies enough psychobabble to explain everything from President Kennedy's womanizing to William Kennedy Smith's celebrated rape trial in 1991."[2]

He came under fire for his biography of Hillary Clinton titled, The Truth about Hillary: What She Knew, When She Knew It, and How Far She'll Go to Become President which was released on June 21, 2005. On the day of its release Sean Hannity interviewed him on the radio. Radio host Al Franken, along with Joe Conason interviewed him on Air America that month as well. During the interview, Franken and Conason exposed inaccuracies in Klein's book, including incorrect names and deliberate omissions from quotes with the intention to deceive the reader.[3] Klein claimed that he was not told that Conason, who had authored The Hunting of the President in defense of the Clintons, would join the interview, but Franken asserted that Klein's publicist was informed that Conason would help conduct the interview.

243 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:15:56am

Oh, the Whackos are going to have a field day with this:

HIV prevention pill Truvada backed by US experts

Dr Robert Grant, Gladstone Institutes: ''I think we are in a era where we can see the end of the Aids epidemic''Continue reading the main story

A panel of US health experts has for the first time backed a drug to prevent HIV infection in healthy people.

The panel recommended US regulators approve the daily pill, Truvada, for use by people considered at high risk of contracting the Aids virus.

The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is not required to follow the panel's advice, but it usually does.

Some health workers and groups active in the HIV community have opposed the approval of the drug.

However, correspondents say the move could prove to be a new milestone in the fight against HIV/Aids.

Truvada is already approved by the FDA for people who are HIV-positive, and is taken along with existing anti-retroviral drugs.

244 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:16:42am

I think fb will eventually go the way of ebay. They priced themselves out of the market with fees, fees, fees.

245 Varek Raith  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:16:51am

re: #242 Gus

Edward Klein

Point. Set. Match.

246 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:17:39am

re: #245 Varek Raith

Point. Set. Match.

There's moar!

The Obama Identity

The Obama Identity: A Novel (Or Is It?) is a 2010 novel written by Edward Klein and former Republican United States Representative John LeBoutillier. Among other things, the book explores and promotes the Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories and Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories in the form of a novel. In an interview on Fox & Friends, Leboutillier claimed that the book uses "real things" and has "so much real stuff".[1] Following the interview, Media Matters for America published excerpts from the book in an article which criticized the book as having an "incomprehensible plot"

247 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:18:01am

re: #242 Gus

Edward Klein

Well, as I said, it may very well be a load of crap. It just doesn't much matter to me personally either way.

248 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:20:29am

Image: edward_klein_lean.jpg

Looks like a douche.

249 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:28:09am

Woot!

Lincoln Nebraska proposed LGBT protection ordinance: Best In Show!

Hat tip:

NSFW!

250 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:29:05am

I'm surprised nobody cracked up in the "audience."

251 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:29:45am

re: #249 Gus

Woot!

Lincoln Nebraska proposed LGBT protection ordinance: Best In Show!

[Embedded content] NSFW!

orgiers?

252 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:31:01am

re: #249 Gus

Woot!

Lincoln Nebraska proposed LGBT protection ordinance: Best In Show!

[Embedded content] NSFW!

What a disjointed --I don't know what it was . .

253 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:33:39am

re: #250 Gus

I'm surprised nobody cracked up in the "audience."

The faces of the people behind her!

LOL

254 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:34:55am

Soviet Union immigrants who escaped the horror of living under communism in the East are supporting the GOP.

Among New York’s Soviet Immigrants, Affinity for G.O.P.

To many Russian and Ukrainian immigrants, the cornucopia in the shops along Brighton Beach Avenue — pyramids of oranges, heaps of Kirby cucumbers, bushels of tomatoes with their vines still attached and a variety of fish, sausages and pastries — seems like an exuberant rebuke of the meager produce that was available to them when they lived in the Soviet Union.

This contrast helps explain a striking political anomaly: immigrants from the former Soviet Union are far more apt to vote for Republicans than are most New Yorkers, who often drink in Democratic Party allegiance with their mothers’ milk and are four times as likely to register as Democrats than as Republicans.

...One reason these voters tend to support Republicans is that they see them as more ardent warriors against the kind of big-government, business-stifling programs that soured their lives in the Soviet Union. Their conservative stances on issues like taxes and Israel seem to outweigh their more liberal views on social issues like abortion.

...Some scholars likened the attitudes of Soviet immigrants to those of the Vietnamese boat people who fled their homeland’s Communist government and of the Cuban refugees who fled the government of Fidel Castro, both of whom took a more conservative tack in the United States than the members of most immigrant groups.

“Having been seared by statism, they see Democrats as drifting toward statism and see that as dangerous for themselves and for the country,” said Fred Siegel, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute’s Center for State and Local Leadership.

Support for Israel is another motivator. The majority of the 350,000 Soviet immigrants in New York City are Jewish, culturally if not in practice; scholars estimate the number as between 70 percent and 90 percent. Many Russian speakers have relatives and friends in Israel, where their population has also exerted a rightward push on national politics, and they tend to reward Republicans, whom they view as more unswerving defenders of that nation.

...“The Republican Party was the party that brought them out of despair,” Mr. Yeger said.

Well how about that.

255 The Left  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:36:08am

re: #249 Gus

Woot!

Lincoln Nebraska proposed LGBT protection ordinance: Best In Show!

[Embedded content] NSFW!

Every body found without clothes has a partner that murdered them!

256 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:38:06am

re: #255 Millicent Islam

Every body found without clothes has a partner that murdered them!

Not The Onion! This video is hilarious. The hat lends itself to the rhetoric.

257 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:38:24am

re: #255 Millicent Islam

Every body found without clothes has a homosexual partner that murdered them!

FTFY

hahahahahahahahaha

258 palomino  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:39:31am

re: #218 Obdicut

The Clinton camp has already called the author a liar, and I have no idea why the allegation is simply being reported as true.

Concern troll doesn't care. He cuts and pastes, and is apparently very proud of this ability.

259 palomino  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:41:15am

re: #254 NJDhockeyfan

Soviet Union immigrants who escaped the horror of living under communism in the East are supporting the GOP.

Among New York’s Soviet Immigrants, Affinity for G.O.P.

Well how about that.

How about that? Do you have an opinion? Can you shed some light on the issue, or even discuss it?

260 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:41:33am

re: #258 palomino

Concern troll doesn't care. He cuts and pastes, and is apparently very proud of this ability.

When the lefties on here does it...awesome!

When I do it...troll!

261 lawhawk  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:43:44am

re: #254 NJDhockeyfan

Yet, the way Brighton Beach actually votes runs counter: their local city council representative is a Democrat, their Congressional representative was Anthony Weiner (another Democrat) before his ouster and replacement by a Republican (Bob Turner), and their state assembly representative is on the Democrat/Republican/Working Families lines.

Not exactly running deep Republican. One could argue that the election of Turner and Grimm are the result of the locals punishing the Democrats for the malfeasance by Weiner - not necessarily because they're moving hard towards the GOP.

[addendum] - I'm pretty familiar with the area having grown up in nearby Sheepshead Bay and frequented Brighton Beach growing up (it really is Odessa by the Sea with the large population from the former Soviet republics).

262 palomino  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:43:46am

re: #260 NJDhockeyfan

When the lefties on here does it...awesome!

When I do it...troll!

Yeah, it's all a double standard meant to persecute you specifically. Do you have delusions of grandeur too?

263 SidewaysQuark  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:44:01am

re: #233 Lidane

You're assuming that all new college grads are 22 years old, and that they went through university fresh out of high school. So is she. They're not.

I spent my 20's working my ass off. Spent my early 30's still working my ass off. Decided at 35 that I wasn't going to hit 40 without finishing college. I've spent the last four years finishing both an undergrad degree and an MBA. I graduate tomorrow.

I'm not the only one in this boat. College students these days are getting older, especially in terms of graduate and professional students. And yes, there are work/life balance issues for them, particularly if the student in question has a job and a family. It's ignorant and short sighted of Dana Perino to assume that a college grad doesn't have the "right" to worry about these things. We're not all 22 year old kids.

Oh for sure. I'm someone who didn't finish grad school until well into my 30's, myself. My only point is that most young people are working hard to get by just like anyone else, and understandably aren't content to tacitly stand by while those born with silver spoons in their mouths deride their attempted contributions and work ethic.

And congrats on graduating - sounds like it's been a long road!

264 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:45:55am

re: #259 palomino

How about that? Do you have an opinion? Can you shed some light on the issue, or even discuss it?

I think it's awesome. I've talked to a few people who lived inside USSR and they are extremely grateful to be living in this country. Looks like they are not at all happy with what the Democrats are doing. Any reason you can think of to why they support the GOP over the Dems and where they are wrong?

265 Lidane  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:46:52am

Chivalry or cowardice? Here's an interesting tidbit about that Catholic school that forfeited rather than play a girl:

[Link: tucsoncitizen.com...]

All second baseman Paige Sultzbach wanted to do was play in her school’s state championship baseball game.

But because she is a girl, that won’t happen.

Sultzbach is a freshman at Mesa Preparatory Academy, which had been scheduled to play Our Lady of Sorrows Academy in Thursday’s Arizona Charter Athletic Association state championship at Phoenix College.

But Our Lady of Sorrows, a fundamentalist Catholic school in Phoenix that lost twice to Mesa Prep during the regular season, chose to forfeit the championship game rather than play a team fielding a female player.

They played that team with a girl twice and lost twice. I'd say that drove their decision to be a bunch of pathetic, sexist cowards more than anything else.

266 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:48:25am

re: #265 Lidane

Chivalry or cowardice? Here's an interesting tidbit about that Catholic school that forfeited rather than play a girl:

[Link: tucsoncitizen.com...]

They played that team with a girl twice and lost twice. I'd say that drove their decision to be a bunch of pathetic, sexist cowards more than anything else.

She didn't play in the prior two games. Her team kept her off the field out of "respect" for the other team.

267 darthstar  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:48:58am

re: #260 NJDhockeyfan

When the lefties on here does it...awesome!

When I do it...troll!

It's more than just magical balance fairy fodder. The Clintons and Obama are as close as ever, regardless of what your pet sites say.

268 AK-47%  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:50:38am

re: #264 NJDhockeyfan

I think it's awesome. I've talked to a few people who lived inside USSR and they are extremely grateful to be living in this country. Looks like they are not at all happy with what the Democrats are doing. Any reason you can think of to why they support the GOP over the Dems and where they are wrong?

Russians are very socially conservative, Soviet and post-Soviet society is still 50 years behind us on women's, gay and minority rights.

And coming from a country where almost every aspect of life was regulated down to detail, they would tend to support a party that is for less regulation.

it is as much a gut reaction as a measured, intellectual response. But that is how politics works.

269 Lidane  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:51:00am

re: #266 Simply Sarah

She didn't play in the prior two games. Her team kept her off the field out of "respect" for the other team.

And they weren't going to keep her off the field this time. She earned the right to play in the championship game and the school wasn't going to deny her.

The point still stands, though-- even without the girl playing, the fundie school that forfeited still couldn't beat them. They played twice and lost twice.

270 gwangung  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:51:03am

Just FYI

African-Americans Support Obama’s Same-Sex Marriage Stance

[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

271 lawhawk  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:51:28am

re: #267 darthstar

Well, it does provide a certain service - it provides insight into how the right views that relationship and if they think that it's on the rocks, that will hurt them going into November because it overestimates the problems and underestimates just how much the Clintons can help in Obama's reelection bid.

It gives the right a false sense of security that no one on the right should be banking on.

272 gwangung  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:51:49am

re: #269 Lidane

And they weren't going to keep her off the field this time. She earned the right to play in the championship game and the school wasn't going to deny her.

The point still stands, though-- even without the girl playing, the fundie school that forfeited still couldn't beat them. They played twice and lost twice.

Gotta agree. Losers. And twits.

273 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:51:51am

re: #269 Lidane

And they weren't going to keep her off the field this time. She earned the right to play in the championship game and the school wasn't going to deny her.

The point still stands, though-- even without the girl playing, the fundie school that forfeited still couldn't beat them. They played twice and lost twice.

Oh, I agree entirely. The whole idea of "We won't play teams with girls on them" is backwards and ignorant.

274 AK-47%  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:52:45am

re: #270 gwangung

Just FYI

African-Americans Support Obama’s Same-Sex Marriage Stance

[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

Let us also keep in mind that not all voters are single-issue ideologues. They look at all aspects of a candidate's positions and weigh them according to their own priorities.

275 palomino  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:53:04am

re: #264 NJDhockeyfan

I think it's awesome. I've talked to a few people who lived inside USSR and they are extremely grateful to be living in this country. Looks like they are not at all happy with what the Democrats are doing. Any reason you can think of to why they support the GOP over the Dems and where they are wrong?

Obviously there are a number of factors motivating their decisions, as you know, I'm sure, because you read the whole article, right?

But your implication that the Dems are somehow like the old Soviet government is so absurd I think even you know it. And if the immigrants are under the impression that the Dems have much in common with their former totalitarian masters in the USSR, then they are seriously misinformed.

Most immigrant groups support the Dems, but there are always exceptions. I guess that's enough to get you excited.

276 Lidane  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:53:53am

re: #273 Simply Sarah

Oh, I agree entirely. The whole idea of "We won't play teams with girls on them" is backwards and ignorant.

Especially when they played an all-boy team twice and still couldn't win.

What a bunch of ignorant cowards.

277 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:54:04am

Russians in NYC lean Republican. That's nice. Doesn't mean a thing to me.

278 lawhawk  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:55:41am

re: #277 Gus

And they don't even do so as much as the Times article implies once you actually look at their voting habits.

But not that it matters, because once the general election rolls around, NY will go for Obama quite strongly.

279 ProGunLiberal  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:55:54am

I reading through a Something Awful thread on Arpaio, and becoming horrified. Any updates on the investigation into the little fascist?

280 palomino  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:56:58am

re: #277 Gus

Russians in NYC lean Republican. That's nice. Doesn't mean a thing to me.

Don't you get it? The whole state is about to turn blue, fulfilling every hockey fan's wildest dreams. I mean they just legalized gay marriage, so they must be really conservative, right?

281 gwangung  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:58:32am

re: #274 Expand Your Ground

Let us also keep in mind that not all voters are single-issue ideologues. They look at all aspects of a candidate's positions and weigh them according to their own priorities.

Yup. Even in the so-called special interest groups, voters always have multiple interests.

It's something everyone should keep in mind. But I NEVER bought into warnings that blacks would abandon Obama over this. He hasn't done anything to harm black interests and fair enough to help them. And his power as a symbol is therefore great enough for the black community for them to give him the benefit of a doubt.

Similarly, not convinced that Republicans will make inroads into the Latino community. And they sure as hell won't into the Asian American community. They had their chance in the 1990s and they threw it away.

282 palomino  Fri, May 11, 2012 9:59:10am

re: #279 ProGunLiberal

I reading through a Something Awful thread on Arpaio, and becoming horrified. Any updates on the investigation into the little fascist?

He's a lunatic. Somehow he managed to help turn Arizona into a part of the Deep South. He's like a second rate J. Edgar Hoover, with his tremendous unchecked power and overall bigotry.

283 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:00:29am

re: #278 lawhawk

And they don't even do so as much as the Times article implies once you actually look at their voting habits.

But not that it matters, because once the general election rolls around, NY will go for Obama quite strongly.

Breaking news! Republicans and right wingers in Staten Island!

//

284 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:01:05am

re: #270 gwangung

Just FYI

African-Americans Support Obama’s Same-Sex Marriage Stance

[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

Well, I do suspect there is a deal of truth to the idea that some African-Americans will revisit and rethink their positions on this as a result of President Obama's statement, perhaps more than I originally gave him credit for. I mean, surprise, he's highly respected in much of the community and, as a result, isn't going to be dismissed out of hand on this.

285 darthstar  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:01:20am

Headed to Roger Waters' 'The Wall Live' tour tonight at AT&T park...this should be fun. It's always nice when my wife hooks me up like this.

286 jaunte  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:02:09am

re: #277 Gus

Maybe they're used to decaying national infrastructure.

287 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:02:27am

re: #285 darthstar

Headed to Roger Waters' 'The Wall Live' tour tonight at AT&T park...this should be fun. It's always nice when my wife hooks me up like this.

Hey you!

Someone on last night's thread wants a bumper sticker with your Osama/GM saying on it.

Can you add it to your cp store and post it?

288 iossarian  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:04:28am

re: #286 jaunte

Maybe they're used to decaying national infrastructure.

Exactly.

What's really stupid (even more so than the usual cut'n'paste daily fail stupidity) about that this argument is that, if ex-communists were supporting the Democrats, it would be all EX-COMMUNISTS SUPPORT DEMOCRATS ZOMG DEMS ARE COMMIE SCUM.

But somehow the fact that ex-communists support the GOP means that the GOP is wonderful and not at all bigoted or dysfunctional.

289 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:05:22am
290 darthstar  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:05:51am

re: #287 ggt

[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

291 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:06:02am

re: #288 iossarian

Exactly.

What's really stupid (even more so than the usual cut'n'paste daily fail stupidity) about that this argument is that, if ex-communists were supporting the Democrats, it would be all EX-COMMUNISTS SUPPORT DEMOCRATS ZOMG DEMS ARE COMMIE SCUM.

But somehow the fact that ex-communists support the GOP means that the GOP is wonderful and not at all bigoted or dysfunctional.

That seems to be part of the RW narrative. "These guys used to live under the Soviets! They know communism and see how the Demoncrats are really communists!"

292 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:06:11am

re: #285 darthstar

Headed to Roger Waters' 'The Wall Live' tour tonight at AT&T park...this should be fun. It's always nice when my wife hooks me up like this.

Major awesome! I saw Pink Floyd twice during the Delicate Sounds of Thunder tour and they did a bunch of The Wall songs. Too bad Roger Waters wasn't with the band.

Who is in Roger Water's band?

293 darthstar  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:06:20am

re: #287 ggt

Hey you!

Someone on last night's thread wants a bumper sticker with your Osama/GM saying on it.

Can you add it to your cp store and post it?

Oh bumpersticker...I'll add those now.

294 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:06:21am

re: #288 iossarian

Exactly.

What's really stupid (even more so than the usual cut'n'paste daily fail stupidity) about that this argument is that, if ex-communists were supporting the Democrats, it would be all EX-COMMUNISTS SUPPORT DEMOCRATS ZOMG DEMS ARE COMMIE SCUM.

But somehow the fact that ex-communists support the GOP means that the GOP is wonderful and not at all bigoted or dysfunctional.

The GOP version of the MBF is actually Monotonous Boring Fallacies.

295 iossarian  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:06:42am

Maybe Russians in NYC support Republicans because they're nostalgic for government that is harshly authoritarian, unaccountable and rife with cronyism.

296 allegro  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:06:48am

re: #287 ggt

Hey you!

Someone on last night's thread wants a bumper sticker with your Osama/GM saying on it.

Can you add it to your cp store and post it?

That reminds me of the car I was sitting behind at a light yesterday. Had a Marine Corp sticker, sticker that indicated the driver/owner had been in Iraq, a disabled vet license plate... and a sticker for Obama. I liked that.

297 palomino  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:08:44am

re: #281 gwangung

Yup. Even in the so-called special interest groups, voters always have multiple interests.

It's something everyone should keep in mind. But I NEVER bought into warnings that blacks would abandon Obama over this. He hasn't done anything to harm black interests and fair enough to help them. And his power as a symbol is therefore great enough for the black community for them to give him the benefit of a doubt.

Similarly, not convinced that Republicans will make inroads into the Latino community. And they sure as hell won't into the Asian American community. They had their chance in the 1990s and they threw it away.

Blacks have been voting 90%+ for Dems for decades now. And in most cases those candidates they cast ballots for were white. Hateful cynics on the other side will proclaim that it's racist for the vast majority of blacks to "support Obama because they only like him for being black." (It's the meme that Limbaugh helped establish when he said that Colin Powell, probably America's greatest living war hero, only endorsed Obama cuz he's black. It's a vicious insult to a highly respected General, and how the hell does Limbaugh know anyway?)

But first, untrue...Pres. Clinton, for example, had approval ratings among blacks that were nearly as high, and he got the same % of the black vote. Second, what the hell is so wrong about blacks having a special pride in Obama, particularly given our nation's history?

298 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:08:47am

2nd video

You can marry a turtle

ROTFLAMO

299 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:09:09am

re: #295 iossarian

Maybe Russians in NYC support Republicans because they're nostalgic for government that is harshly authoritarian, unaccountable and rife with cronyism.

Also keep in mind that we're looking at NYC Republicans. Yeah, that one group headed by Arkadiy Fridman backs Romney.

300 darthstar  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:09:12am

re: #293 darthstar

Oh bumpersticker...I'll add those now.

Done...the square sticker has a better perspective on the image...I'll have to make a new template for the wide bumper sticker.

301 gwangung  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:10:30am

re: #297 palomino

Second, what the hell is so wrong about blacks having a special pride in Obama, particularly given our nation's history?

Nothing, if you're a normal, thinking human being.

Everything in the world, if you're a Republican these days, apparently...

302 lawhawk  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:11:10am

re: #292 NJDhockeyfan

Saw them at Giants Stadium 10th row when they were on the Pulse Tour (when they played DSOTM). Amazing show.

303 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:11:53am

Yeah. Aversion to "big government." Like big government telling people who they can or cannot marry. And whether or not they can have an abortion. That's just for starters. You know. This all comes from THAT political party. Doesn't begin with a "D".

304 lawhawk  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:13:13am

re: #303 Gus

Big government. They keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means.

305 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:17:04am

re: #302 lawhawk

Saw them at Giants Stadium 10th row when they were on the Pulse Tour (when they played DSOTM). Amazing show.

I saw them at Giants Stadium in 1988 and Nassau Coliseum a few months later. They recorded the Nassau Coliseum concert and put out a video of the concert. My roommate didn't make it and I have her unused ticket.

306 palomino  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:17:23am

re: #303 Gus

Yeah. Aversion to "big government." Like big government telling people who they can or cannot marry. And whether or not they can have an abortion. That's just for starters. You know. This all comes from THAT political party. Doesn't begin with a "D".

One reason for the gender gap is that women are far less suspicious of the kind of "big govt" that Republicans hate so much. The kind of big govt they fear is the one you mentioned, that gets all up in their lady parts.

When govt gets too big, of course problems ensue. But the GOP seems to be taking the extreme position that govt.--one of the hallmarks of modern civilization--should be as small as possible and do as little as possible, which is a step backward in the development of fully functional democracies.

307 AK-47%  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:17:23am

re: #304 lawhawk

Big government. They keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means.

It means "Goverment that does stuff I don't like (or at least don't like having to pay for in taxes)."

308 darthstar  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:18:55am

re: #292 NJDhockeyfan

Major awesome! I saw Pink Floyd twice during the Delicate Sounds of Thunder tour and they did a bunch of The Wall songs. Too bad Roger Waters wasn't with the band.

Who is in Roger Water's band?

Not sure...but it should be a good show. I'll take lots of pics and post some.

309 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:19:02am

re: #303 Gus

Yeah. Aversion to "big government." Like big government telling people who they can or cannot marry. And whether or not they can have an abortion. That's just for starters. You know. This all comes from THAT political party. Doesn't begin with a "D".

Oops.

NYS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM (NYSEDAP)
ROUND #2 ALLOCATION PLAN

Staten Island Community Center $250,000
Arkadiy Fridman - President of SICC

That's the same "Republican Russian" mentioned in the NY Times piece.

310 Lidane  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:19:14am

re: #306 palomino

But the GOP seems to be taking the extreme position that govt.--one of the hallmarks of modern civilization--should be as small as possible and do as little as possible, which is a step backward in the development of fully functional democracies.

The problem is, they believe that government should only be small and ineffective if it impacts their investment portfolio. They've got no problems making government as big and obtrusive as possible when it comes to women, gays, minorities, etc.

311 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:19:26am

re: #303 Gus

Yeah. Aversion to "big government." Like big government telling people who they can or cannot marry. And whether or not they can have an abortion. That's just for starters. You know. This all comes from THAT political party. Doesn't begin with a "D".

The simple fact is that the mainstream and even most of the fringes of both parties aren't really for "smaller government". Rather, they're all for sizable government intervention some areas and often less in others. All "smaller government" means to much of the current GOP is "Screw helping people that aren't rich, white, and male."

312 AK-47%  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:19:32am

re: #306 palomino

When govt gets too big, of course problems ensue. But the GOP seems to be taking the extreme position that govt.--one of the hallmarks of modern civilization--should be as small as possible and do as little as possible, which is a step backward in the development of fully functional democracies.

I agree with Jefferson in that "the government is best that governs least", bu the GOP is dominated by ideologues like Grover Norquist who take it to the extreme of "The ideal government is the one that does nothing at all (except legislate morality)".

313 iossarian  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:19:53am

re: #309 Gus

Oops.

NYS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM (NYSEDAP)
ROUND #2 ALLOCATION PLAN

Staten Island Community Center $250,000
Arkadiy Fridman - President of SICC

That's the same "Republican Russian" mentioned in the NY Times piece.

WHAT'S A COMMUNITY CENTER IS IT LIKE A COMMUNITY ORGANISER SOUNDS GAY TO ME HURR DURR

314 Gus  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:20:52am

re: #313 iossarian

WHAT'S A COMMUNITY CENTER IS IT LIKE A COMMUNITY ORGANISER SOUNDS GAY TO ME HURR DURR

Methinks Mr. Fridman is talking out of his ass. Saying one thing and then grabbing "government money" with the other hand. Typical.

315 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:21:18am

As for me, I don't care about the size of government beyond wanting it to be as big as it needs to be, but no bigger.

316 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:22:51am

re: #315 Simply Sarah

As for me, I don't care about the size of government beyond wanting it to be as big as it needs to be, but no bigger.

But you don't want it to be run like a business? Oh wait, the goal of a lot of businesses is continual growth...
/

317 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:23:37am

re: #308 darthstar

Not sure...but it should be a good show. I'll take lots of pics and post some.

Please do. I hope they come here. I would go see them in a heart beat. I would have loved to have been at the concert in Berlin in 1990.

318 allegro  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:55:07am

re: #315 Simply Sarah

I don't care about big or small. Those terms are meaningless. I want effective government, one that meets the needs for the greater good in those things a government can do best by economy of scale and good sense as in education, infrastructure, single payer health (see Medicare and the VA system), law enforcement, environmental industry regulation, anti-trust, safety net programs, etc.

319 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 11, 2012 10:55:51am

re: #318 allegro

I don't care about big or small. Those terms are meaningless. I want effective government, one that meets the needs for the greater good in those things a government can do best by economy of scale and good sense as in education, infrastructure, single payer health (see Medicare and the VA system), law enforcement, environmental industry regulation, anti-trust, safety net programs, etc.

Exactly. I was basically trying to say as much in my own flippant manner.


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