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1 b_snark  Sun, May 13, 2012 6:06:06pm

I knew I picked the wrong musical instrument to play. I should have stuck with the kazoo.

2 Obdicut  Sun, May 13, 2012 6:09:51pm

He's really not a very good speaker.

3 b_snark  Sun, May 13, 2012 6:13:51pm

re: #2 Obdicut

He's really not a very good speaker.

Hey, don't attack the messenger.

Well, on second thought, if they're really stupid go for it.

4 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 13, 2012 6:14:37pm

Guitar music is a "fad that has run it's course"? Do you know what that mean's? It means that Rodan is right: Charles is officially uncool!!1

/Stalkers and Charles haters on Twitter

5 Daniel Ballard  Sun, May 13, 2012 6:17:43pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Just cause you said that...

6 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 13, 2012 6:18:04pm

Gus, thanks for the tip.

7 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 13, 2012 6:18:43pm

Don't say that Charles my dad is a finger style guitarist!

8 Amory Blaine  Sun, May 13, 2012 6:44:07pm

re: #2 Obdicut

He's really not a very good speaker.

Thank god.

9 b_snark  Sun, May 13, 2012 6:46:14pm

re: #8 Amory Blaine

Thank god.

Which one?

10 Amory Blaine  Sun, May 13, 2012 6:49:27pm

He's strumming the Gibson Les Paul robot. The first self tuning guitar.

11 Amory Blaine  Sun, May 13, 2012 6:50:57pm

re: #9 Cathartic Expression

Which one?

All of them!! So many gods I'm tripping over them.

12 b_snark  Sun, May 13, 2012 6:51:11pm

re: #10 Amory Blaine

He's strumming the Gibson Les Paul robot. The first self tuning guitar.

[Embedded content]

One more thing to break down.

13 b_snark  Sun, May 13, 2012 6:52:19pm

re: #11 Amory Blaine

All of them!! So many gods I'm tripping over them.

Put them back in the box.

14 Amory Blaine  Sun, May 13, 2012 6:58:58pm

re: #13 Cathartic Expression

Too late. Damn things are everywhere now.

15 Kragar  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:04:16pm

re: #11 Amory Blaine

All of them!! So many gods I'm tripping over them.

16 Mich-again  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:04:24pm

Santorum,

PRAISE HIS SWEET NAME

-- OR BURN IN SLACKLESSNESS TRYING NOT TO!

17 Kragar  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:12:28pm

Meanwhile, I'll ding your post for some scramp.

18 Lidane  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:17:08pm

More GOP words of wisdom:

Scott Fitzgerald is a longtime Republican State Senator from Juneau, Wisconsin. Known as "Big Fitz," he's one of the politicians who's been most active in moving Governor Scott Walker's awful agenda through the legislature, and as a result he's facing a recall election. His opponent is 41-year-old Lori Compas, a freelance photographer and writer who hails from from Fort Atkinson. Understandably, Fitzgerald is not happy to be faced with losing his seat, but instead of fighting to prove he's worthy of continuing to represent the people of his district, he's spending his time being a whiny, sexist pig by insulting his Compas's motives for running.

19 jaunte  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:17:09pm

re: #17 Kragar

You can easily make it at home from shoe polish and dessert topping.

20 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:19:39pm

re: #18 Lidane

Won't matter; Fitz will still win, as will Walker.

21 Lidane  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:20:32pm

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

Won't matter; Fitz will still win, as will Walker.

So it doesn't matter that he's a sexist asshole who only thinks he has a female opponent because her husband is pulling the strings?

Gee. I can't imagine why the GOP has a problem with women.

22 Kragar  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:21:51pm

re: #21 Lidane

So it doesn't matter that he's a sexist asshole who only thinks he has a female opponent because her husband is pulling the strings?

Gee. I can't imagine why the GOP has a problem with women.

If they would simply shut up and stay in their place, there wouldn't be any problem!
///

23 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:23:26pm

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

Won't matter; Fitz will still win, as will Walker.

What numbers are you seeing that give you so much confidence in Walker?

24 Kragar  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:23:57pm

re: #23 jamesfirecat

What numbers are you seeing that give you so much confidence in Walker?

The dirty tricks are way up this season.
/

25 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:26:52pm

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

Won't matter; Fitz will still win, as will Walker.

Fitz, yes, but damaged. He'll have a real opponent next time with party money. The senate will change hands, though, with the open seat going Democratic. Fitz wlll go back to being minority leader until the folks back home see him for what he is.

More video of Scooter offering to turn Wisconsin into a Right To Exploit State to a billionaire and he'll need to go to another state to find work. Of course that's because he's lost so many jobs here with his anti-Wisconsin policies. The trustworthy polls (ie not from the parties) show it a dead heat,) Not even all the blood money from Citizens United has been able to lie enough to change that reality.

26 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:29:37pm

re: #23 jamesfirecat

What numbers are you seeing that give you so much confidence in Walker?

Barrett can't get past a dead heat and he lost last time. Walker's supporters will prove the more determined I think, and Walker's greater warchest will also play a key role in winning the day.

27 Mich-again  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:33:25pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

Barrett can't get past a dead heat and he lost last time. Walker's supporters will prove the more determined I think, and Walker's greater warchest will also play a key role in winning the day.

Walker's problem is that WI is lagging behind the bell curve in job growth since he took office. If they used the same logic and arguments they are employing to unseat Obama, the GOP wouldn't even back Walker.

28 Kragar  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:34:53pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

Barrett can't get past a dead heat and he lost last time. Walker's supporters will prove the more determined I think, and Walker's greater warchest will also play a key role in winning the day.

Outside money soils Wisconsin politics

This historic recall election has seen unprecedented fundraising efforts; the amount of out-of-state contributions is staggering. Ahead of the May 8 primary, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel found that out-of-state contributions accounted for 57% of Walker's campaign funds and about 48% of former Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk's funds. Out-of-state money accounted for 13% of Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett's campaign funds. And this is only the beginning. With the recall election just a few weeks away and the Democratic challenger in place, the fundraising efforts and out-of-state cash flow will only intensify for both political parties in this race. (You ain't seen nothin' yet!)

Interlopers - those who do not live in Wisconsin and thus have no vote in Wisconsin - are using their big fat wallets to tell Wisconsin voters how to vote. And when they are not telling you how to vote, they are using their thick wallets to tear apart and trash a political opponent. They enjoy using their money to dirty up the race because they know you are listening and they want you to be poisoned against a candidate.

29 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:34:54pm

re: #12 Cathartic Expression

One more thing to break down.

so I can...get a Gibson robot, or I can get a normal guitar, a VG-99, a Pod500HD, and a V-synth for the same amount of cash

30 dragonath  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:36:42pm

SCOTT WALKER

slowly I turned

step by step

//

God, I hate what that guy's done. I think I'm going to make a list of all the crappy things he's responsible for.

31 darthstar  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:36:48pm

re: #28 Kragar

Outside money soils Wisconsin politics

Sshh...Walker's war-chest is clean I say! He is, after all, on the GOOD SIDE. Jesus/Mitt/RonPaul/Bush/General Dynamics. Don't confuse me with FACTS!

32 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:38:30pm

re: #31 darthstar

Sshh...Walker's war-chest is clean I say! He is, after all, on the GOOD SIDE. Jesus/Mitt/RonPaul/Bush/General Dynamics. Don't confuse me with FACTS!

Only white american blonde republican Jesus, you know, the one that figured out how to help a rich man pass through the eye of a needle

33 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:39:22pm

re: #28 Kragar

That argument didn't save Dick Lugar, and it will have little impact in Wisconsin. The piece is little more than any attack on funding sources that remain entirely legal. The Journal-Sentinel can fuck off, for they'll not really sway any notable number of people.

34 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:40:04pm

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

That argument didn't save Dick Lugar, and it will have little impact in Wisconsin. The piece is little more than any attack on funding sources that remain entirely legal. The Journal-Sentinel can fuck off, for they'll not really sway any notable number of people.

Enjoy your Taliban GOP

35 Lidane  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:40:05pm

re: #32 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

Only white american blonde republican Jesus, you know, the one that figured out how to help a rich man pass through the eye of a needle

Is that the same Jesus who built temples for the money changers and told the masses that they had no obligations to government or to anyone else other than themselves?

36 darthstar  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:40:54pm

re: #34 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

Enjoy your Taliban GOP

He's bucking for a position as a fuckin' taliban high priest or whatever the fuck they are.

37 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:41:23pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

Barrett can't get past a dead heat and he lost last time. Walker's supporters will prove the more determined I think, and Walker's greater warchest will also play a key role in winning the day.

Yay for out of state zillionaire money!////

38 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:41:36pm

re: #35 Lidane

Is that the same Jesus who built temples for the money changers and told the masses that they had no obligations to government or to anyone else other than themselves?

the very same! He drives a couple of Cadillacs, managed to switch places with someone for the crucifixion

39 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:42:10pm

re: #36 darthstar

He's bucking for a position as a fuckin' taliban high priest or whatever the fuck they are.

they call them wizards in America!

40 Mich-again  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:42:19pm

Now that the GOP has abandoned the center in order to shore up the right flank, they will find that to replace the centrist votes that they forfeited, they will have to keep lurching further rightward. Their poll numbers will be like a turd spinning in a toilet slowly sinking down. And its too late to turn back now and try to reclaim the center. Its all-in on the push to the right.

41 Lidane  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:42:28pm

re: #38 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

the very same! He drives a couple of Cadillacs, managed to switch places with someone for the crucifixion

So he outsourced the crucifixion? Sneaky.

42 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:42:38pm

re: #37 jamesfirecat

Yay for out of state zillionaire money!///

If you're a republican, it's okay! Invade the state, rape it in half, fill it with republican scum

43 darthstar  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:42:54pm

re: #38 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

the very same! He drives a couple of Cadillacs, managed to switch places with someone for the crucifixion

He had sky-box seats at the crucifixion...just happened to know some people who owned Philistines...

44 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:43:13pm

re: #40 Mich-again

Now that the GOP has abandoned the center in order to shore up the right flank, they will find that to replace the centrist votes that they forfeited, they will have to keep lurching further rightward. Their poll numbers will be like a turd spinning in a toilet slowly sinking down. And its too late to turn back now and try to reclaim the center. Its all-in on the push to the right.

We need to destroy the party to save it!

45 Interesting Times  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:51:06pm
46 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:52:22pm

re: #45 Interesting Times

Maybe he's senile! The poor dear. Gosh, maybe we should elect a president who can remember stuff!

47 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:52:44pm

re: #45 Interesting Times

I still prefer ballhemeriers, a disease that destroys your memory and gives you big enough balls to attack people for the very same things you used to do. See Mitt Romeny and the public mandate of healthcare for an example...

48 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:54:18pm

I notice some real geniuses here fell for the right wing wacko Elizabeth Warren bait

HURR HURR INDIAN

THE ONLY RACE IS THE WHITE RACE DERP SQUIRT SQUIRT JIZZ

49 dragonath  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:54:40pm

re: #30 Be Zorch, Daddio

Created a manufactured deficit
Almost wiped out funding for bike paths/rail trails
Prohibiting Gay/lesbian hospital visits
No-bid sales of state power plants
Changed state law so high schoolers can work 7 days a week
Slashed School/University funding
Killed wind farm inititives
Major Cuts in environmental protection
Stupid "More than 3 people in a group need a permit" rule in capitol
Going out of the way to discourage biomass power generation
Vetoing high speed train grants
Voter ID laws
Gerrymandering
Questionable parliamentary tactics
Forcing microbrewers to go through distributors
Running fake candidates in Democratic primaries
Mulitple aides charged with corruption
Support for private prisons
And of course, his crappy union legislation

AAARRGH

50 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:55:35pm

re: #49 Be Zorch, Daddio

He's the perfect republican!

51 Mich-again  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:57:09pm

re: #50 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

He's the perfect republican!

The list is missing the part about teaching ID alongside evolution in public school science class. freakin RINO..

52 Lidane  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:57:16pm

Ha! This is the best thing that George Lucas has done in years:

So what is George Lucas going to do with his property now that he's tired of his rich neighbors putting up a not-in-my-backyard stink? He wants to transform the property into low-income housing, naturally, ending their official statement with this zinger, "If everyone feels that housing is less impactful on the land, then we are hoping that people who need it the most will benefit."

He's working with the Marin Community Foundation to instead construct affordable housing for either low-income families or seniors living on small, fixed incomes. In order to smooth along the development, he's already given them all of the pricey technical studies and land surveys Lucasfilm spent years conducting. And we think that's just great. Because if there's one thing rich people will hate more than having movie magic made in their backyard, it's poor people moving in.

53 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:57:38pm

re: #50 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

He's the perfect republican!

The six million dollar asshole, able to be more of.a dick than any ordinary man could dream of!

54 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:58:28pm

re: #52 Lidane

Ha! This is the best thing that George Lucas has done in years:

I support this :D

I'm not a fan of Lucas, but I am a fan of messing with entitled fucks :D

55 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 7:58:57pm

re: #53 jamesfirecat

The six million dollar asshole, able to be more of.a dick than any ordinary man could dream of!

every rimjob earns compound interest

56 Mich-again  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:00:17pm

re: #52 Lidane

Because if there's one thing rich people will hate more than having movie magic made in their backyard, it's poor people moving in.

I think a great deal of what is identified as racism is closer to classism, it just so happens that minorities are more likely to be poor.

Most UMC white families wouldn't mind Dr. Huxtable and his family moving in next door. But they would freak out at a houseful of Jerry Springer show WT's moving in.

57 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:02:33pm

re: #56 Mich-again

I think a great deal of what is identified as racism is closer to classism, it just so happens that minorities are more likely to be poor.

Most UMC white families wouldn't mind Dr. Huxtable and his family moving in next door. But they would freak out at a houseful of Jerry Springer show WT's moving in.

they would freak out at a real family, but not a television family

basically, as long as your life is written out by scriptwriters to be as inoffensive and milquetoast as possible, you're in :D

58 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:05:38pm

Alabama's anti-immigration law works.*

[Link: latino.foxnews.com...]

*Works, verb. To keep farmers from planting.

59 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:11:03pm

re: #48 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

Jindal, Rubio, and Haley aren't white but don't let that stop your weird fantasy.

60 Lidane  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:11:14pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb

Alabama's anti-immigration law works.*

[Link: latino.foxnews.com...]

*Works, verb. To keep farmers from planting.

No surprise there. Agriculture depends on immigrant and migrant farm workers to get anything done.

61 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:11:55pm

re: #60 Lidane

No surprise there. Agriculture depends on immigrant and migrant farm workers to get anything done.

Now they tell us.

62 Lidane  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:12:07pm

re: #59 Dark_Falcon

Jindal, Rubio, and Haley aren't white but don't let that stop your weird fantasy.

They're also all targets of the birther whackjobs who don't consider them citizens.

63 Kragar  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:12:38pm

News from Japan:

Unicharm Corp.’s sales of adult diapers in Japan exceeded those for babies for the first time last year.

64 Interesting Times  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:17:44pm

re: #63 Kragar

News from Japan:

Unicharm Corp.’s sales of adult diapers in Japan exceeded those for babies for the first time last year.

Didn't realize it was a David Vitter tourist destination.

65 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:19:08pm

re: #63 Kragar

News from Japan:

Unicharm Corp.’s sales of adult diapers in Japan exceeded those for babies for the first time last year.

Paging Mr. Steyn, Mr. Mark Steyn! Please report to the Green Room.

//

66 Lidane  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:36:49pm

Evangelicals Unhappy With GOP’s Gay Marriage Strategy

Evangelicals and social conservatives are urging Republicans to make the fight against same-sex marriage an election-year priority and go after President Obama over his new-found support for the cause. So far, the GOP establishment is resisting.

Rick Santorum pushed Mitt Romney to use the issue to his advantage. “I think what you see is his is a very potent weapon if you will for Gov. Romney if he is willing to step up and take advantage of a president who is very much out of touch with the values of America,” the former presidential candidate said.

But the Republican establishment is singing a different tune, showing little interest in focusing on the issue, and instead fielding questions about it by pivoting to the economy. The result is a strategic divide over how to handle the issue of same sex marriage on the right, pitting politicians against the evangelical community as they negotiate their response to the president’s gay marriage position.

67 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:39:48pm

re: #66 Lidane

The establishment is being wise. This issue is a bomb-trap.

68 Lidane  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:41:07pm

re: #67 Dark_Falcon

The establishment is being wise. This issue is a bomb-trap.

And yet Romney's camp has already said they're going to campaign on a Constitutional amendment against gay marriage. How does that follow the establishment's "wisdom"?

69 Targetpractice  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:42:24pm

re: #68 Lidane

And yet Romney's camp has already said they're going to campaign on a Constitutional amendment against gay marriage. How does that follow the establishment's "wisdom"?

Yeah, heard about that and Boehner's subsequent response when asked about it by a reporter, which was to ignore the question and continue on yammering about the economy.

70 Mich-again  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:42:50pm

re: #67 Dark_Falcon

The establishment is being wise. This issue is a bomb-trap.

Like we talked about yesterday, when it comes to gay marriage the establishment knows that Mitt on Mute is the best option..

71 freetoken  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:43:18pm

re: #66 Lidane

I'm trying to imagine the Onion anchor in the video blurb reading what you copied... with that same voice and music in the background... and you know what?

It works.

72 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:44:43pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

Yeah, heard about that and Boehner's subsequent response when asked about it by a reporter, which was to ignore the question and continue on yammering about the economy.

Boehner was wise to do so. The economy is where Mitt can win, gayness is not.

73 Targetpractice  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:45:41pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

Boehner was wise to do so. The economy is where Mitt can win, gayness is not.

Mitt can win on the economy? How?

74 Obdicut  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:46:18pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

Boehner was wise to do so. The economy is where Mitt can win, gayness is not.

There's also the littler matter that what Romney is doing, opposing civil rights for your fellow Americans, is morally wrong.

Do you care about that?

75 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:47:30pm

re: #74 Obdicut

There's also the littler matter that what Romney is doing, opposing civil rights for your fellow Americans, is morally wrong.

Do you care about that?

of course he doesnt!

76 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:48:07pm

to care more about people than about the dominance of your tribe is to not be a republican

77 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:48:36pm

re: #74 Obdicut

There's also the littler matter that what Romney is doing, opposing civil rights for your fellow Americans, is morally wrong.

Do you care about that?

Not enou to let it effect his vote, but he will cry a single manly tear like a commercial Indian upon seeing a garbage dump.

78 Lidane  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:48:39pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

Boehner was wise to do so. The economy is where Mitt can win, gayness is not.

Again -- Mitt's camp has already said they're going to campaign on getting a Constitutional amendment passed to ban gay marriage. How does that square with the GOP establishment?

79 jaunte  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:49:09pm

re: #77 jamesfirecat

Was that guy really an Indian?

80 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:50:24pm

kicking queers is easy


understanding tax codes is hard


republicans!

81 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:53:21pm

re: #77 jamesfirecat

Not enou to let it effect his vote, but he will cry a single manly tear like a commercial Indian upon seeing a garbage dump.

Heh.

Good night. I'm fading fast now and need sleep.

82 Mich-again  Sun, May 13, 2012 8:54:02pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

Boehner was wise to do so. The economy is where Mitt can win, gayness is not.

The best way to fix the economy is to reduce waste in the commodities government uses and to help businesses to be more profitable. Just lopping off heads and eliminating departments shifts costs around to others, and might even increase overall costs when you look at everything. For example, if the Government decides to not invest in a road project that will alleviate traffic jams, then it ends up hurting consumers and businesses because the stop and go traffic wastes their time and money.

And when the government reduces waste in commodities it uses it decreases the market costs for those supplies and that helps private enterprise be more profitable.

83 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 13, 2012 9:03:08pm

Feelin' the love on Twitter:

84 Mich-again  Sun, May 13, 2012 9:07:47pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

1. Isn't it kinda ghey for a guy to judge another man's looks?
2. How can they ignore him if you keep tweeting about him?
3. Wall Street is thrilled you are defending them.
4. You shouldn't tweet when you are drunk.

85 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 13, 2012 9:07:59pm

That's only a small selection of the hate 'Defend Wall Street' is spewing at me tonight. There are many more similar posts.

I wonder what happened to "learning how to ignore Charles Johnson?"

86 Mich-again  Sun, May 13, 2012 9:10:00pm

Defend Wall Street is like a Internet Splodeydope. He is blowing himself up with stupid bombs to make a blip in the news for a day.

87 jaunte  Sun, May 13, 2012 9:19:23pm

Paul Krugman's latest is worth a read:

Why We Regulate

...What did JPMorgan actually do? As far as we can tell, it used the market for derivatives — complex financial instruments — to make a huge bet on the safety of corporate debt, something like the bets that the insurer A.I.G. made on housing debt a few years ago. The key point is not that the bet went bad; it is that institutions playing a key role in the financial system have no business making such bets, least of all when those institutions are backed by taxpayer guarantees.

For the moment Mr. Dimon seems chastened, even admitting that maybe the proponents of stronger regulation have a point. It probably won’t last; I expect Wall Street to be back to its usual arrogance within weeks if not days.

88 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 9:25:20pm

re: #86 Mich-again

Defend Wall Street is like a Internet Splodeydope. He is blowing himself up with stupid bombs to make a blip in the news for a day.

must be tweeting from work

GRR FRUSTRATED AT DUMB BORING JOB, ANGRY AT BLOGGER

89 KronoGhazi  Sun, May 13, 2012 9:30:24pm

Ah, cute. A wannabe Twitter bully.

Cheap insults is game because when it's adult rules they lose bad. If they can even place at all.

90 freetoken  Sun, May 13, 2012 9:42:45pm

Is American style SoCon politics seeping into New Zealand?


Is Conservative party leader Colin Craig a creationist?

91 Mich-again  Sun, May 13, 2012 9:45:57pm

And just in case the wingnuts try to say tomorrow that the Obama administration stepped into JP Morgan's business to tell them who to fire in wake of the $2 Billion loss.. Ina Drew who used to be the Chief Investment Officer and who earned a $15 million salary last year also serves as a director on the board for Legal Momentum, a women's rights organization that would not be considered pro-GOP by any stretch...

Just because I can hear them crying foul if Ina Drew had happened to be a Mitt supporter.

92 freetoken  Sun, May 13, 2012 9:57:48pm

The Quixotic Infidel skewers Bart Ehrman:


A review of Bart Ehrman's "Did Jesus Exist"

93 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 9:57:57pm

A lot of gay kids are dead because of people like Santorum

94 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 10:00:09pm

spread psycho rhetoric through GOP channels, psycho rhetoric filters through conservative bigot christian parents to their kids, their kids go to school, look for the gay kid to ruin their life, and viola

95 austin_blue  Sun, May 13, 2012 10:00:56pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

That's only a small selection of the hate 'Defend Wall Street' is spewing at me tonight. There are many more similar posts.

I wonder what happened to "learning how to ignore Charles Johnson?"

My man, you must be doing something right...

96 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 10:01:49pm

hope he looks at his kids one day and realizes his words are helping condemn kids like his kids to death


only they're not like his kids, because they're gay

Republican murderers :)

97 KronoGhazi  Sun, May 13, 2012 10:04:00pm

re: #93 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

A lot of gay kids are dead because of people like Santorum

And in a Cheap Orwellian Porno twist, they will accuse people who point that out of hating Christians.

98 dragonath  Sun, May 13, 2012 10:19:01pm

re: #90 freetoken

Holy shit this guy is nuts

While Craig says that the Conservative Party does not intend to "legislate morality",[8] he is an evangelical/fundamentalist Christian and does not support same-sex marriage, gay adoption, adolescent access to abortion in New Zealand, voluntary euthanasia or assisted suicide or common-law marriages and describes New Zealand's young women as "the most promiscuous in the world", based upon Durex research statistics

I hope a hobbit punches him in the nuts

99 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 10:46:25pm
Many say Putin, who returned to the presidency last week, has used the church as a potent tool in his command structure, allowing it to amass vast riches in return for unquestioning support of his policies and spiritual blessing for his leadership.

Read more: [Link: www.seattlepi.com...]

Putin must be a republican lol

100 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 13, 2012 10:46:53pm

I remember when the Seattle Post-Intelligencer was a real paper :(

101 freetoken  Sun, May 13, 2012 11:19:37pm

It's a quiet Sunday night.

102 boredtechindenver  Mon, May 14, 2012 12:07:38am

So, I have been thinking about posting this video produced by a co-worker in India. I think she has made a very thought provoking video, but I am not sure how it will be received in the US. I have subscribed to get email for responses, so if you can give a response vs up or down ding, it would be appreciated.

I am not very well educated on the subject matter, and the feminist movement in India, however I do feel that the subject matter is important.

103 freetoken  Mon, May 14, 2012 12:17:27am

re: #102 boredtechindenver

I am not very well educated on the subject matter, and the feminist movement in India,...

Neither am I, though I appreciate the work that has gone into this video.

Speaking of the video, it first struck me about materialism, then existentialism, or perhaps smoking. Finally the gay theme was thrown in.

The problem with communicating the feminist concerns is that they only show up in the text at the end. It would have been much more powerful to have infant girls in the video itself.

Throughout Asia there is a concern that female infants are discarded, as pursuit of position or material wealth favors having male children. It's a problem percolating about which most Americans have no thought.

104 boredtechindenver  Mon, May 14, 2012 12:41:42am

It was the final message the made me feel that this was too important not to share, though i was not sure regarding the comment regarding choosing. If there are enough comments and requests, I can ask my co-worker if she would like to write something to post alongside the video as a Page.


OT RIP Donald "Duck" Dunn. My first and biggest introduction to you was "The Blues Brothers".

105 EdDantes  Mon, May 14, 2012 12:42:23am

re: #102 boredtechindenver

Is the theme "No women, hence homosexuality"? To my mind, that seems to be the point. A future where there are no women and men take what is available to them (which is other men) is repugnant to gay men.
Selectively aborting girl children is anathema in America and most of the west. Linking that to an increase in the "evil" of homosexuality would also be frowned upon.
Unless I viewed this wrong, that approached will not fly in this country.

106 EdDantes  Mon, May 14, 2012 12:47:38am

re: #104 boredtechindenver

Dunn is dead? I did not know that. I used to see him in the early seventies on a variety of rock concerts. RIP, indeed.

107 boredtechindenver  Mon, May 14, 2012 12:52:58am

re: #105 EdDantes

Is the theme "No women, hence homosexuality"? To my mind, that seems to be the point. A future where there are no women and men take what is available to them (which is other men) is repugnant to gay men.
Selectively aborting girl children is anathema in America and most of the west. Linking that to an increase in the "evil" of homosexuality would also be frowned upon.
Unless I viewed this wrong, that approached will not fly in this country.

That was one of the issues I had, but looking online, it appears that India has a culture/legal system that both implicitly and explicitly enforces homosexuals remaining closeted. Homosexuality was not decriminalized until 2009. There still may be a culture that people choose to be gay or straight. As I said, I don't know enough regarding Indian culture on the ground to decide that the video was not worth sharing

Also, I posted before letting her know i did so, but I have sent her the link to this page, so she may be looking at the comments. Constructive criticism will be appreciated.

108 EdDantes  Mon, May 14, 2012 1:09:41am

re: #107 boredtechindenver

Very good. I am opposed to abortion in this country if it is merely another form of birth control, but using to limit the number of babies of one particular sex is abominable. Many eastern countries seem to be comfortable with the practice but in America me are all agreed.

109 EdDantes  Mon, May 14, 2012 1:12:16am

re: #107 boredtechindenver

I hope your friend reads the comments.

110 researchok  Mon, May 14, 2012 1:15:21am

Morning, all

111 boredtechindenver  Mon, May 14, 2012 1:22:05am

I have to get to sleep. I have early appointment to get a CPAP machine That and a visit to an ENT Tuesday give me hope to be able to breathe and sleep well for the first time in a long time.

112 AK-47%  Mon, May 14, 2012 1:27:06am

re: #105 EdDantes

Is the theme "No women, hence homosexuality"? To my mind, that seems to be the point. A future where there are no women and men take what is available to them (which is other men) is repugnant to gay men.
Selectively aborting girl children is anathema in America and most of the west. Linking that to an increase in the "evil" of homosexuality would also be frowned upon.
Unless I viewed this wrong, that approached will not fly in this country.

This is another example of how views of (homo)sexuality have changed over time.

It was just seen as unhealthy to let men's sexual drives go unsatisfied, and if no women were present due to circumstances (especially during wartime) then other men (or boys) were seen as acceptable substitutes.

Sexual realtions between men were not necessarily frowned on unless they did so in preference to women or if in doing so they neglected their duty to sire more warrior sons to defend the tribe/city-state/kingdom.

113 freetoken  Mon, May 14, 2012 1:39:58am

Continuing on with Sviridov's Hymns and Prayers, here is mvt. 5:

114 researchok  Mon, May 14, 2012 1:49:54am

re: #113 freetoken

Really, really good.

TY.

115 EdDantes  Mon, May 14, 2012 2:01:46am

re: #114 researchok

Smirnoff's fifth is the best.

116 EdDantes  Mon, May 14, 2012 2:04:46am

I know when I make stupid jokes it is time to retire for the night.
Good night. :)

117 researchok  Mon, May 14, 2012 2:08:42am

re: #115 EdDantes

Smirnoff's fifth is the best.

Really sublime.

Great example of the 'pull' of sacred music.

118 A Mom Anon  Mon, May 14, 2012 3:48:00am

re: #97 Kronocide

A kid doesn't even have to be gay,just PERCIEVED as gay,to be harassed and tormented. Which is a small elephant in the corner when we talk about this.

My son is straight. He wears his hair long. He's autistic and a little different. The gay bashing started in 7th grade and hasn't really stopped. This is Georgia,it's not like anyone here in Outer Redneckia is going to try real hard to stop it either.

Which leads me to the wisdom about knowing people and liking dogs better.

119 AK-47%  Mon, May 14, 2012 3:58:19am

re: #118 A Mom Anon

A kid doesn't even have to be gay,just PERCIEVED as gay,to be harassed and tormented. Which is a small elephant in the corner when we talk about this.

I had the same problem as a kid, not as extreme, but I was a bit different, not interested in "guy" things like sports or muscle cars, I was more into art and music, which we all know are totally "gay".

And although I was certainly interested in girls, I was just too socially inept to actually have a real girlfriend.

120 A Mom Anon  Mon, May 14, 2012 4:16:42am

re: #119 Expand Your Ground

Same with my kid. He's adorable,but socially he's had a really rough go of it. I honestly don't know how to change high school culture,but we're doing it wrong. More Teachers? Smaller Schools? Less isolated school settings(more interaction in the community,meeting different people of different ages and backrounds)? And why oh freaking WHY is it a deficit to be smart at school with your peers? Seriously? Shouldn't that be the one place where it's a GOAL to be smart?

121 freetoken  Mon, May 14, 2012 4:17:17am

re: #120 A Mom Anon

insecurity

122 AK-47%  Mon, May 14, 2012 4:29:23am

re: #120 A Mom Anon

I honestly don't know how to change high school culture,but we're doing it wrong. More Teachers? Smaller Schools? Less isolated school settings(more interaction in the community,meeting different people of different ages and backrounds)? And why oh freaking WHY is it a deficit to be smart at school with your peers? Seriously? Shouldn't that be the one place where it's a GOAL to be smart?

Funny, when I was a minority white kid in a mostly black and Latino school in Gary, I got picked on a bit, but there were also kids who stood up for me, they thought it was cool to be smart.

Then we moved to a working-class mostly white neighborhood and I got picked on mercilessly for being a bookwork and a nerd.

123 dragonfire1981  Mon, May 14, 2012 4:57:16am

LLLLLLLLLLLLLets get ready to rumbleeeeeeeeee!!!!

Romney, Paul factions brawl at Oklahoma GOP convention

124 AK-47%  Mon, May 14, 2012 4:59:21am

re: #123 dragonfire1981

LLLets get ready to rumbleee!!!

Romney, Paul factions brawl at Oklahoma GOP convention

This is one aspect of the Tea Party and other strains of extremism that have gained influence in the GOP: it is not always just directed at Obama and the Democrats, it is directed at anyone they disagree with.

And it grows uglier by the minute.

125 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 14, 2012 5:07:55am

Morning Lizardim from the cool and clear wild north country. Governor Dayton's expedition on Lake Waconia was a bit of a flop, but that certainly didn't dampen anyone's spirits, with the beautiful weather drawing out the fishing crowd in droves. What's new among the Lizardim this post-Mother's Day Monday?

126 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 5:13:06am

Good morning from drizzly Philadelphia.

Pulled pork scheduled for lunch today. Following afternoon activities uncertain.

Only Mother's Day activity was a quick "hello, thinking of you" call to my sister-in-law. She's recovering from lung surgery to remove a tumor and associated lymph node, so she can't talk well, or for long.

Biopsy indicated that this tumor was something that had spread from her colon cancer a few years back. Which is not so good. So radiation treatment is under way, and there will be a round of chemotherapy as well.

Seems to be the trend nowadays at this age. Know four people currently undergoing treatment of one sort or another for cancer or a cancer-like (e.g. requiring chemo) condition.

Otherwise it looks like it may be a slow day at work. Which will be good for catching up on a few things.

127 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 5:17:34am

re: #120 A Mom Anon

Same with my kid. He's adorable,but socially he's had a really rough go of it. I honestly don't know how to change high school culture,but we're doing it wrong. More Teachers? Smaller Schools? Less isolated school settings(more interaction in the community,meeting different people of different ages and backgrounds)? And why oh freaking WHY is it a deficit to be smart at school with your peers? Seriously? Shouldn't that be the one place where it's a GOAL to be smart?

It's sort of odd where getting beaten on the field due to superior physical skills is looked up to or at least accepted, but getting out thought is seen as some sort of cheating. I'm sure there has been some study of that.

I also know of studies that indicate a number of cultures have severe pressures to conform, and that includes not standing out in terms of intellectual ability or achievement. While I guess standing out in terms of physical achievement might still be viewed as "natural".

128 Flounder  Mon, May 14, 2012 5:32:07am

This is a reminder for licensed professionals, instant karma might not get you, but computers flagging your personnel files will.
Joanne Farrell is a substitute teacher that may not be able to teach again.
Read more: [Link: www.timesunion.com...]

129 sattv4u2  Mon, May 14, 2012 5:44:42am

re: #126 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

a quick "hello, thinking of you" call to my sister-in-law. She's recovering from lung surgery

Thoughts and prayers to her and you

Seems to be the trend nowadays at this age

Yup,, I recall hearing my mother and aunt talking about "did you hear about soandos,,,he/she has cancer (of some type)"

Now that I'm at that age, I get an (almost) weekly call/ message about some friend or similar aged relative that has "it"

130 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:01:15am

Hmm. Politics as usual in New Jersey. This seems to be par regardless of which party is supposedly in charge.

[Link: openchannel.msnbc.msn.com...]

131 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:04:30am
132 sattv4u2  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:08:58am

re: #130 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Hmm. Politics as usual in New Jersey anywhere

ftfy

133 Flounder  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:12:20am

re: #130 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Is there a problem collecting what you earned?
I have an opportunity to collect my pension and unemployment, should I be barred from doing so?

134 sattv4u2  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:12:53am

re: #133 Tommy's cone of shame

'NO SOUP FOR YOU"

135 sattv4u2  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:15:58am

re: #133 Tommy's cone of shame

Is there a problem collecting what you earned?
I have an opportunity to collect my pension and unemployment, should I be barred from doing so?

Seriously though, the problem is putting in for (early) retirement, taking your full pension THEN taking a position with the same entity for a full salary

It's not like you retired from your company, taking your pension then going and working part (or even full) time somewhere else to 'stay busy"

136 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:16:01am

re: #132 sattv4u2

Hmm. Politics as usual in New Jersey anywhere

ftfy

True. But true in New Jersey to the point of being a stereotype.

I need to email my one friend living there and see what his viewpoint on this is. He definitely wasn't a Corzine fan, but I don't think he is horribly fond of Christie either.

And he has railed in a blog about the need for New Jersey to start consolidating there governmental levels simply to reduce the overlap of services between municipal, township, and county level. Same issue exists in Pennsylvania, but I think to a lesser degree. (Though, for instance, the City of Philadelphia and County of Philadelphia are congruent and I think do not duplicate many services. As if that helps - the standard gripe here is that the only thing the city does effectively is parking enforcement.)

137 Lidane  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:16:50am

Morning, Lizards! It's a lovely day -- no more grad school to deal with, job interviews lined up for this week, and a couple of good books to read in the meantime. Life is good. :)

138 sattv4u2  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:17:08am

re: #136 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

True. But true in New Jersey to the point of being a stereotype

I've lived (or visited for great lengths of time) in many areas of this country where that "stereotype" holds true

139 sattv4u2  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:17:52am

re: #136 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste


re: #138 sattv4u2

True. But true in New Jersey to the point of being a stereotype

I've lived (or visited for great lengths of time) in many areas of this country where that "stereotype" holds true

It's like the anecdotes told here about how bad the drivers are wherever your "here" is

140 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:20:56am

re: #133 Tommy's cone of shame

Is there a problem collecting what you earned?
I have an opportunity to collect my pension and unemployment, should I be barred from doing so?

Interesting question. Though I guess that depends on whether defining "retirement" and getting a pension has legalese attached to it making you ineligible for unemployment. (And I vaguely recall that unemployment benefit costs do trace back to the last employer to some degree.)

You don't start getting your pension upon simply becoming unemployed. So it's a bit more complicated than getting or not getting "what you earned".

141 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:20:57am

re: #139 sattv4u2

re: #138 sattv4u2

It's like the anecdotes told here about how bad the drivers are wherever your "here" is

One interesting thing I've found about the driving stories, though, is that each locale has its own unique quirk of bad driving that they prefer to "own". When I was in the Chicagoland area, that was aggressive bumper-to-bumper speed driving. Here in Minnesota, it is the complete and utter lack of turn signals. And so on.

142 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:20:59am

re: #137 Lidane

Morning, Lizards! It's a lovely day -- no more grad school to deal with, job interviews lined up for this week, and a couple of good books to read in the meantime. Life is good. :)

Very cool! What are you reading?

143 sattv4u2  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:22:46am

re: #141 thedopefishlives

that was aggressive bumper-to-bumper speed driving.

Same here in Atlanta,, everyone here thinks that they're the next Dale Earnhart

144 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:22:56am

re: #138 sattv4u2

True. But true in New Jersey to the point of being a stereotype

I've lived (or visited for great lengths of time) in many areas of this country where that "stereotype" holds true

For stateside driving I'll give your idiots on 285 the prize. They have yankee attitudes and rebel disregard for good sense.

145 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:23:20am

re: #141 thedopefishlives

One interesting thing I've found about the driving stories, though, is that each locale has its own unique quirk of bad driving that they prefer to "own". When I was in the Chicagoland area, that was aggressive bumper-to-bumper speed driving. Here in Minnesota, it is the complete and utter lack of turn signals. And so on.

D.C. had both. Bumper-to-bumper 65+ mph traffic on the Beltway, plus the belief that turn signals "gave information to the enemy". I also saw deliberate acceleration to prevent lane shifts there.

About the only behavior I did not see much of was the "accelerate in right lane and do shift to left lane via miniscule gap" stunt. That seems to be a New Jersey and eastern Pennsylvania special.

146 Interesting Times  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:24:39am

re: #142 Millicent Islam

Good to see you :) You might be interested in this Page by Unlike Some People/000G - the same ridiculous birther/school-transcript garbage used to smear Obama is now being thrown at Elizabeth Warren, because she's right about the issues that really matter and we can't have that, now can we? 9_9

147 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:25:06am

re: #146 Interesting Times

Good to see you :) You might be interested in this Page by Unlike Some People/000G - the same ridiculous birther/school-transcript garbage used to smear Obama is now being thrown at Elizabeth Warren, because she's right about the issues that really matter and we can't have that, now can we? 9_9

Thanks, going to check that out right now. How are you?

148 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:25:38am

re: #142 Millicent Islam

Good morning, {ice}. How are things in bonny Scotland?

149 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:27:07am

re: #145 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

D.C. had both. Bumper-to-bumper 65+ mph traffic on the Beltway, plus the belief that turn signals "gave information to the enemy". I also saw deliberate acceleration to prevent lane shifts there.

About the only behavior I did not see much of was the "accelerate in right lane and do shift to left lane via miniscule gap" stunt. That seems to be a New Jersey and eastern Pennsylvania special.

I think D.C., like New York, must be a conglomeration of all the bad driving habits of the United States combined.

150 sattv4u2  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:28:55am

re: #144 Decatur Deb

For stateside driving I'll give your idiots on 285 the prize. They have yankee attitudes and rebel disregard for good sense.

Like I stated in #143,,,, they all think they're the next NASCAR star, and because 285 just makes one big circle around Atlanta, they treat it as their own Daytona 500

151 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:29:09am

re: #148 thedopefishlives

Good morning, {ice}. How are things in bonny Scotland?

Hello wee {fishie}! Scotland is pretty dreich today-- dark, cold, and rainy. It's nice and cozy here in our nest though. How are you doing?

152 Interesting Times  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:29:45am

re: #147 Millicent Islam

Thanks, going to check that out right now. How are you?

Disappointed that people I thought knew better are lapping up racist, sexist Mark Steynish propaganda, but other than that just fine :)

153 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:31:08am

Only drove in the outskirts, but Boston is often given the Northeast prize. Suicidal pedestrians are said to be the specialty. I've survived riding a motorcycle the lenghth of Manhattan (once) and rode a freakn' horse through traffic from Columbus Ave to Central Park.

154 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:31:27am

re: #149 thedopefishlives

I think D.C., like New York, must be a conglomeration of all the bad driving habits of the United States combined.

I think part of it is that with higher concentrations of drivers the number of extremely aggressive ones hits some sort of critical mass. As well as the tentative ones that create bottlenecks and chokepoints. The combination then feeds off each other and you see a mess.

Plus the odd phenomena of watching two lanes of traffic go start-stop-start on a 5-6 mile stretch of road that has no exits/entrances. It's all cars jockeying back and forth and "sorting out" causing slow-downs.

155 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:32:56am

re: #151 Millicent Islam

Hello wee {fishie}! Scotland is pretty dreich today-- dark, cold, and rainy. It's nice and cozy here in our nest though. How are you doing?

Doing well. It's a beautiful day here in the northlands. The Mrs. Fish and I are being treated to a baseball game by my folks, who are driving up from fish country even as we speak.

156 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:33:20am

re: #152 Interesting Times

Disappointed that people I thought knew better are lapping up racist, sexist Mark Steynish propaganda, but other than that just fine :)

Yeah, that was quite the comment thread. Upsetting.

157 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:33:44am

re: #155 thedopefishlives

Doing well. It's a beautiful day here in the northlands. The Mrs. Fish and I are being treated to a baseball game by my folks, who are driving up from fish country even as we speak.

How nice! I hope you have a wonderful time!

158 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:34:59am

re: #154 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

The dynamic here in the Twin Cities is slightly different. There are multiple exits/entrances per mile through the downtown areas, some of which are heavily used and some of which aren't, which leads to an interesting "push-pull" phenomenon where you go almost instantly from 15 to 50 and then wind up on the brakes 1/2 mile later.

159 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:35:57am

re: #157 Millicent Islam

How nice! I hope you have a wonderful time!

I'm sure we will. Target Field is a gorgeous facility and it's always good to get some time away from the little fishspawn. Plus, stadium food!

160 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:37:44am

And I had evil thoughts on Saturday night. Was driving I-76 East into Philadelphia (the infamous "SureKill Expressway") and hit a stretch where it slowed down to 55-60 mph with both lanes solidly filled.

Suddenly two motorcycles blitzed up the middle (on the dotted line) doing somewhere over 75 mph (probably more like 80-85). No police around, and obviously little/no chance of a pursuit even then.

My evil thought was whether a car would "hip check" one of the jackasses. Though with thinking it out a little further that would pretty much total a person, a motorcycle, damage a car, and probably seriously mess with the psyche of the car driver. Not good to think such ill on a person for being an asshole. Though I do wish the negative karma does catch up to them in a less physically harmful fashion.

161 sattv4u2  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:37:47am

re: #153 Decatur Deb

but Boston is often given the Northeast prize. Suicidal pedestrians are said to be the specialty

Not to mention the clever little device we put in there that drives visitors insane ,,

ROTARIES!!

BWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHHH!!!!

162 Gus  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:39:37am

re: #152 Interesting Times

Disappointed that people I thought knew better are lapping up racist, sexist Mark Steynish propaganda, but other than that just fine :)

Mark Steyn and that wingnut turd William A. Jacobson (Legal Insurrection). Perhaps we can get R.S. McCain's opinion while we're at it.

163 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:40:13am

re: #158 thedopefishlives

The dynamic here in the Twin Cities is slightly different. There are multiple exits/entrances per mile through the downtown areas, some of which are heavily used and some of which aren't, which leads to an interesting "push-pull" phenomenon where you go almost instantly from 15 to 50 and then wind up on the brakes 1/2 mile later.

There is that phenomena here in Philly and also in Pittsburgh. Part of "learning the ropes" is knowing the spots where one lane is much better to be in than the other due to merges or exiting. And that it varies by day of week and time of day - like the exit where the Philly Zoo is gets heavily backed up on weekend afternoons.

164 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:40:52am

re: #160 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

On I-394 heading out of Minneapolis, they have a limited access carpool lane. It's only separated by a double white line, so of course, overly aggressive jackasses like to cross over the line to pass people. The Minnesota State Patrol takes a particular kind of pride in nailing those bastards to the wall. I've even seen it happen on multiple occasions.

165 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:41:29am

re: #161 sattv4u2

but Boston is often given the Northeast prize. Suicidal pedestrians are said to be the specialty

Not to mention the clever little device we put in there that drives visitors insane ,,

ROTARIES!!

BWWAAAHAHAHAHAHHH!!!

Heh. Our town put in two "roundabouts" several years ago. The locals still treat them as 4-way stop signs.

(Italian roundabouts give priority to vehicles entering the circle. In theory that can't work.)

166 sattv4u2  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:42:28am

And this is universally,,,, ,but how does "granny" even make her way INTO the left lane of a highway to do her 35 mph? Presumably "she" had to enter from the right.

OR ,,, perhaps she got into the left lane at a much younger age and just stayed there and now that shes older can't figure out how to get back!!!

167 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:43:09am

re: #161 sattv4u2

but Boston is often given the Northeast prize. Suicidal pedestrians are said to be the specialty

Not to mention the clever little device we put in there that drives visitors insane ,,

ROTARIES!!

BWWAAAHAHAHAHAHHH!!!

I don't mind them. Saw plenty when I was over in Germany.

The threat of them is where drivers do not know the right-of-way rule for them*.

* - And New Jersey (of course) has some screwed up pseudo-rotaries that don't follow the standard rule; e.g. two of the four in directions don't have the stop/yield signs since they're a "major" road compared to the other road entering the rotary.

168 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:43:17am

re: #163 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

There is that phenomena here in Philly and also in Pittsburgh. Part of "learning the ropes" is knowing the spots where one lane is much better to be in than the other due to merges or exiting. And that it varies by day of week and time of day - like the exit where the Philly Zoo is gets heavily backed up on weekend afternoons.

Complicating the equation is the Lowry Tunnel running under the west side of Minneapolis. Technically, you're not supposed to change lanes in the tunnel zone, but of course, people do it anyway. And since many people are actively afraid of driving through the tunnel, traffic gets all sorts of messed up during peak times. To say nothing of what happens when an accident occurs therein.

169 Gus  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:44:26am

Haven't determined the reason yet. I'm sure it's the usual #twisters and Twitchy scum. You can see what people are Tweeting to her here. Click "all" to reveal current Tweets.

170 Eventual Carrion  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:44:59am

re: #124 Expand Your Ground

This is one aspect of the Tea Party and other strains of extremism that have gained influence in the GOP: it is not always just directed at Obama and the Democrats, it is directed at anyone they disagree with.

And it grows uglier by the minute.

And I am loving it. I keep trying to get through to my dad about these people. He keeps going along with the religious fundies because of the abortion thing mainly, so he keeps voting repub. I just can't get it through to him that the true fundies see his religion (Catholic) as the whore of Babylon and when they are done with others that are mutually disliked by them and other religions, they will start attacking the other religions (namely his).

171 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:45:51am

Hm. Here in Motown we have such a thing as a Michigan Left Turn which is actually, you have to make a right turn in order to turn left. This means on a divided highway, you have to make a right turn to a little turnaround island in order to make your left turn.

172 Lidane  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:46:36am

re: #142 Millicent Islam

Very cool! What are you reading?

The biography of Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson, and 11/22/63 by Stephen King.

173 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:46:38am

re: #171 Learned Mother of Zion

Hm. Here in Motown we have such a thing as a Michigan Left Turn which is actually, you have to make a right turn in order to turn left. This means on a divided highway, you have to make a right turn to a little turnaround island in order to make your left turn.

Very common in New Jersey, where it's a "jughandle".

174 sattv4u2  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:48:06am

re: #171 Learned Mother of Zion

Hm. Here in Motown we have such a thing as a Michigan Left Turn which is actually, you have to make a right turn in order to turn left. This means on a divided highway, you have to make a right turn to a little turnaround island in order to make your left turn.

The road I used to take in South Carolina to get from Atlanta to the Myrtle Beach area had those

175 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:48:19am

re: #168 thedopefishlives

Complicating the equation is the Lowry Tunnel running under the west side of Minneapolis. Technically, you're not supposed to change lanes in the tunnel zone, but of course, people do it anyway. And since many people are actively afraid of driving through the tunnel, traffic gets all sorts of messed up during peak times. To say nothing of what happens when an accident occurs therein.

Pittsburgh has *2* major highway tunnels in/near the city, plus 3-4 more that affect commuting, and one of those being very long. Speed in tunnel jokes are long standing.

Back in the early 80s the City (County?) decided to enforce a "no-wake" speed limit on motor boats in the river right around Point State Park where the three rivers meet.

A cartoonist had a three-panel cartoon published soon afterwards:
Panel 1: Buoy with sign "No Wake Zone" - boats zooming by it
Panel 2: Buoy with sign "C'mon Guys!" - boats zooming by it
Panel 3: Buoy with sign "Maintain speed in tunnel" - boats "putt-putt" by it

176 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:50:28am

re: #171 Learned Mother of Zion

Hm. Here in Motown we have such a thing as a Michigan Left Turn which is actually, you have to make a right turn in order to turn left. This means on a divided highway, you have to make a right turn to a little turnaround island in order to make your left turn.

That's pretty standard in lots of places in NJ. 4-lane road with signs periodically that say "All Turns from Right Lane" with the little cloverleafs to facilitate doing the left. You need to watch for traffic merging from those when you come up to the major road on a cross street.

177 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:53:40am

re: #175 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

The best part about the Lowry is that it makes a rather severe 90-degree turn inside the tunnel. This results in all sorts of entertaining shenanigans, such as the time last year when a truck overturned and jumped the divider on the far side of the tunnel, shutting down traffic on I-94 completely for several hours.

178 Gus  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:55:15am

Ah yes. The Republicans with their lame attempt at creating an Israeli/Jewish wedge issue against Obama.

Meanwhile American Jews continue to support Obama and Democrats despite these fakers claims. Polling for Obama is also strong in Israel.

179 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:56:50am

re: #178 Gus

Meanwhile American Jews continue to support Obama and Democrats despite these fakers claims. Polling for Obama is also strong in Israel.

DOES NOT FIT NARRATIVE....CANNOT COMPUTE

180 Lidane  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:58:09am

McConnell: Breitbart, Rush And Drudge ‘Pioneers’

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell in an exclusive interview with Breitbart weighed in on the new media landscape and how it has affected conservatism. “… [I]f you’re looking for proof of the power and impact of new media today, look no farther than the outpouring of grief over Andrew Breitbart’s tragic passing,” McConnell said. “It was a fitting tribute to a real innovator who proved to a lot of young conservatives that they too had the power to break through the left-wing media filter. I put Rush and Matt Drudge in that category of early pioneers, but Andrew was obviously one of a kind too. He’s deeply missed, but he left an incredible legacy.”

181 Gus  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:58:20am

Article here:

GOP lawmakers: Romney should shame Obama with Israel trip
By Cameron Joseph - 05/14/12 05:00 AM ET

Mitt Romney should visit Israel soon, Republican lawmakers say, claiming that such a trip would highlight the fact that President Obama has not been there during his first term.

Congressional Republicans told The Hill that there would be many benefits for Romney should he go to Israel, explaining that it would both advance U.S.-Israeli relations and help him politically.

“It would be a good visit for him,” said National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Pete Sessions (Texas).

Continues.

Read one. It's the usual hillbilly/Confederate/wingnut congressmen.

182 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:59:09am

re: #177 thedopefishlives

The best part about the Lowry is that it makes a rather severe 90-degree turn inside the tunnel. This results in all sorts of entertaining shenanigans, such as the time last year when a truck overturned and jumped the divider on the far side of the tunnel, shutting down traffic on I-94 completely for several hours.

Ouch.

Most of the Pittsburgh ones are fairly straight. Though a few of the shorter local ones have bends in them. But they're not on an interstate.

Cleveland has a 90 degree left turn on I-90 (25 mph speed limit). I presume that one must be extremely fun in winter weather. But it's not in a tunnel.

I used to live near a fun intersection. 5-way intersection - four of the five had stop signs. Every so often a non-local would come up to it on the road without a stop sign, see the cars waiting at stop signs, and assume they had a stop as well - and stop. And then wonder why cars started honking at them from all directions.

183 Gus  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:59:23am

re: #180 Lidane

McConnell: Breitbart, Rush And Drudge ‘Pioneers’

Fitting. Birds of a feather flock together.

184 Lidane  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:00:21am

GOP Rep. Lankford Explains Why It Should Be Legal To Fire Someone For Being Gay: ‘It’s A Choice Issue’

Rep. James Lankford (R-OK) told ThinkProgress last week that he believes someone should be able to be fired for his or her sexual orientation.

In a conversation on Capitol Hill, Lankford expressed his strong belief that being gay is a choice, and that LGBT workers should not be protected from workplace discrimination because it’s something they can change.

185 sattv4u2  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:00:51am

:(

My managers son went to high school with this young lady,,,,,,

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

186 Interesting Times  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:01:41am

Racist, sexist, anti-gay
That's the GOP today
If you want your rights to stay
From power keep those creeps away!

187 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:02:03am

re: #186 Interesting Times

Love it!

188 Talking Point Detective  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:02:13am

re: #160 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

And I had evil thoughts on Saturday night. Was driving I-76 East into Philadelphia (the infamous "SureKill Expressway") and hit a stretch where it slowed down to 55-60 mph with both lanes solidly filled.

Suddenly two motorcycles blitzed up the middle (on the dotted line) doing somewhere over 75 mph (probably more like 80-85). No police around, and obviously little/no chance of a pursuit even then.

My evil thought was whether a car would "hip check" one of the jackasses. Though with thinking it out a little further that would pretty much total a person, a motorcycle, damage a car, and probably seriously mess with the psyche of the car driver. Not good to think such ill on a person for being an asshole. Though I do wish the negative karma does catch up to them in a less physically harmful fashion.

Actually, I think the official name is Surekill Crawlway

189 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:05:11am

Good morning lizards!

190 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:09:42am

re: #184 Lidane

GOP Rep. Lankford Explains Why It Should Be Legal To Fire Someone For Being Gay: ‘It’s A Choice Issue’

"In a conversation on Capitol Hill, Lankford expressed his strong belief that being gay is a choice, and that LGBT workers should not be protected from workplace discrimination because it’s something they can change."

Being Christian, Jewish, Hindu is something they can change...

Idiot.

191 Talking Point Detective  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:10:28am

re: #130 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Hmm. Politics as usual in New Jersey. This seems to be par regardless of which party is supposedly in charge.

Speaking of politics, NJ, and Christie - don't know if you saw this bit I thought it's interesting.

[Link: www.philly.com...]

Debate over Christie's addicts plan

N.J.'s governor wants to force nonviolent drug- addicted offenders into treatment instead of prison.

As the article discusses, there are some pretty problematic aspects, but maybe this initiative could lead to some improvements in the "war on drugs."

192 Eventual Carrion  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:11:34am

re: #176 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

That's pretty standard in lots of places in NJ. 4-lane road with signs periodically that say "All Turns from Right Lane" with the little cloverleafs to facilitate doing the left. You need to watch for traffic merging from those when you come up to the major road on a cross street.

That is the way it is on the less than major 4 lanes here in NW PA. We call them Jug Handles, but I still see people trying to make a left turn by stopping in the passing lane.

193 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:11:55am

U.S. Acceptance of Gay/Lesbian Relations Is the New Normal
For third year, majority says gay/lesbian relations are morally acceptable
by Lydia Saad
PRINCETON, NJ -- The slight majority of American adults, 54%, consider gay or lesbian relations morally acceptable. Public acceptance of gay/lesbian relations as morally acceptable grew slowly but steadily from 38% in 2002 to 56% in 2011 and is now holding at the majority level.

194 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:15:37am

African-American Church Leaders Condemn Obama For Gay Marriage Support

BALTIMORE (WJZ)– Just days after President Barack Obama announced his support for same-sex marriage, pastors and priests around Maryland took to their own pulpits with their reaction– and in some cases– condemnation of the president.

Derek Valcourt explains the president’s comments have folks on both sides of the issue fired up.

Both sides hope the president’s position helps sway votes in their favor when the issue hits Maryland’s ballot this November.

“I think same-sex couples should be able to get married,” President Obama said.

When President Obama announced that his position on same-sex marriage had evolved, it outraged some African-American pastors like Pastor and Del. Emmett Burns.

“He has said to his base, African-Americans, ‘I am going against your beliefs and your thoughts’,” Burns said.

He’s so opposed to same-sex marriage, he told church members he will no longer support the president and now predicts Obama will lose the election because of it.

He and many other leaders are pouring their energies into gathering the signatures needed to put Maryland’s same-sex marriage law on the November ballot.

Outrage!

195 Talking Point Detective  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:16:40am

re: #190 Decatur Deb

"In a conversation on Capitol Hill, Lankford expressed his strong belief that being gay is a choice, and that LGBT workers should not be protected from workplace discrimination because it’s something they can change."

Being Christian, Jewish, Hindu is something they can change...

Idiot.

I find the "Republicans are anti-science" argument to be pretty problematic at various levels - but that opinion is just flat out anti-science. No one who studies the research can argue that sexual preferences are simply a matter of "choice."

196 jaunte  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:18:59am

re: #183 Gus

Gus, thanks for the heads-up; no sightings on this end, though.

197 Gus  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:19:36am

re: #196 jaunte

Gus, thanks for the heads-up; no sightings on this end, though.

OK

198 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:20:10am

re: #171 Learned Mother of Zion

Hm. Here in Motown we have such a thing as a Michigan Left Turn which is actually, you have to make a right turn in order to turn left. This means on a divided highway, you have to make a right turn to a little turnaround island in order to make your left turn.

I learned to hate them with a passion when I drove semi. They are the single most evil traffic construction I've ever had to deal with. Only thing close is a round about where there should be a stop & go light but those Michigan monstrosities are worse.

199 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:22:14am

re: #195 Talking Point Detective

I find the "Republicans are anti-science" argument to be pretty problematic at various levels - but that opinion is just flat out anti-science. No one who studies the research can argue that sexual preferences are simply a matter of "choice."

Even if it were, 'choice' is not the criterion for anti-discrimination laws.

200 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:25:02am

re: #185 sattv4u2

:(

My managers son went to high school with this young lady,,,

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

This is incredible. It makes me want to keep my kids out of the creeks around here.

201 Talking Point Detective  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:27:45am

re: #199 Decatur Deb


True.

It's just asinine no matter how you slice it, but your point is an excellent one: In between the constant whining about discrimination against Christians, they take the time out to say that discriminating against LGBT's is AOK because they think it's a "choice."

202 Talking Point Detective  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:32:13am

re: #199 Decatur Deb

Even if it were, 'choice' is not the criterion for anti-discrimination laws.

The more I think about that, the more I like it.

They need to stop worrying about the "War on Christmas," because celebrating Christmas is a "lifestyle choice."

203 jaunte  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:38:31am

War on veggies:

Some Alabama farmers cut back crops, citing illegal immigration crackdown

State agriculture officials said the law has created chronic labor shortages since it was passed last year by the Republican-controlled Legislature, where sponsors said they wanted to drive illegal immigrants from the state by making it difficult for them to live in Alabama.

204 lawhawk  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:39:03am

re: #130 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I'm far more concerned with the fact that the NJ budget revenue projections are coming in far lower than the Governor expected, and lower than even the nonpartisan Office of Legislative Services, which means that proposed property tax relief wont happen, or that they'll have to cut other services to offer up some form of tax relief.

It's a big problem, and one that stemmed from unreasonable expectations of revenue growth. Far too optimistic, and that leaves a budget hole that has to be filled.

We're talking about $300+ million (though it could be closer to $500 million).

And all this pales in comparison to the whole mess in Greece, or the JPM mess (where $2 billion in losses - in trades that supposedly were designed to reduce risk to the banks - has got new scrutiny on the banks and renewed calls for the Volcker rule).

205 Gus  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:39:38am

re: #203 jaunte

War on veggies:

Some Alabama farmers cut back crops, citing illegal immigration crackdown

But I thought "native born Muricans" wanted these jobs?

//

206 jaunte  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:40:52am

re: #205 Gus

I think this means we just wind up buying our tomatoes from big Mexican growers.

207 lawhawk  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:40:59am

re: #171 Learned Mother of Zion

Same as the NJ jug-handle. To make left turns, you have to go to the right lane to exit.

208 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:41:47am

re: #205 Gus

But I thought "native born Muricans" wanted these jobs?

//

They will, if our Alabama GOP-dominated government can raise the desperation level enough.

209 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:42:01am

Keep an eye out for this girl...

Stevie Bates, daughter of Satellite Academy basketball coach Darryl Jones, goes missing

Darryl Jones doesn’t have plans to celebrate Mother’s Day. At a time when households are honoring the maternal bonds of the family unit, Jones, the boys basketball coach of city-power Satellite Academy in the Bronx, which has won three of the past five city championships in the PSAL’s Alternative League, has a more pressing matter to deal with.

Jones’ daughter is missing, and hasn’t been seen by her family or heard from since April 27. Stevie Bates, a 19-year-old former cheerleader at the Bronx High School of Science, with an infectious smile and shoulder-length blond dreadlocks, was traveling cross-country with a group of friends she met through the Occupy Wall Street movement when she disappeared. Bates was last observed boarding a bus in Pittsburgh destined for New York, where she was supposed to arrive on April 28.

Vivian Bates, who is married to Darryl, last spoke with her daughter on the phone on April 27. According to Vivian, Stevie was at a Greyhound bus station in Pittsburgh during a layover. The time was 7:52 p.m. Stevie hasn’t been heard from since.

“That was her last layover,” Vivian told the Daily News. “I asked her if she wanted me to pick her up at the bus station (back in Manhattan) and she said ‘no.’ She was going to Brooklyn to meet up with some friends. But she never got there. She was coming home later that day.”

That was the last time Vivian Bates and Jones heard from their daughter, who is a 5-6, African-American female, weighs 120 pounds and is distinguished by her dreadlocks and a nose and belly piercing.
Sunday is Mother’s Day and Darryl says the family doesn’t have any plans to commemorate the occasion, except to keep looking for clues to find their daughter.

Having a couple daughters this really frightens me.

210 Gus  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:42:25am

re: #206 jaunte

I think this means we just wind up buying our tomatoes from big Mexican growers.

BMGs! Produce prices will go up if they haven't already.

211 Lidane  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:42:36am

re: #205 Gus

But I thought "native born Muricans" wanted these jobs?

//

They do, until about noon. Once they realize just how hard they're expected to work and for what wages, they quit.

212 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:43:30am

re: #209 NJDhockeyfan

Keep an eye out for this girl...

Stevie Bates, daughter of Satellite Academy basketball coach Darryl Jones, goes missing

Having a couple daughters this really frightens me.

Hope she has just gone to look for America.

213 Gus  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:44:14am

re: #211 Lidane

They do, until about noon. Once they realize just how hard they're expected to work and for what wages, they quit.

Yeah. Somehow I never could picture "Lynyrd Skynyrd dude" out in the middle of a field picking vegetables.

214 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:46:53am

Well, looks like my washing machine "repair" from last week didn't go as planned. It did a couple loads but when I went into the basement this morning I stepped into ankle deep water. It's been flooding since yesterday morning. I was wondering why the water pressure was so low. What a mess!

215 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:48:29am

re: #212 Decatur Deb

Hope she has just gone to look for America.

I can't imagine what her parents are going through. This sucks.

216 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:49:00am
217 bratwurst  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:49:33am
218 CuriousLurker  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:49:37am

re: #214 Killgore Trout

Well, looks like my washing machine "repair" from last week didn't go as planned. It did a couple loads but when I went into the basement this morning I stepped into ankle deep water. It's been flooding since yesterday morning. I was wondering why the water pressure was so low. What a mess!

Must be karma. *smiles sweetly*

//Washing machine jihad time!

219 Talking Point Detective  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:49:53am

re: #214 Killgore Trout

Well, looks like my washing machine "repair" from last week didn't go as planned. It did a couple loads but when I went into the basement this morning I stepped into ankle deep water. It's been flooding since yesterday morning. I was wondering why the water pressure was so low. What a mess!

If you need any advise on pumping water out of basements, I have plenty of experience.

220 William of Orange  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:50:30am

Did you see the fight of Barney Frank against Marsha Blackburn??!
Referee Stephanopoulos had a tough task of keeping them apart but Frank got Blackburn in the end with an uppercut. BOOM! Debt burden under the jaw!

Gosh! I'd like to see Frank now take on McCain on MTP.

Check it out at Crooks and Liars.

221 jaunte  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:51:25am

Charles Pierce:

And Now a Few Words from Professor Obvious

Wait, no, you're kidding me, right? You mean that government jobs actually count as, you know, jobs? That they actually pay people to do work and that, in return, those people get paid a salary, which many of them spend in stores and stuff like that, which helps the general economy just as much as the salaries that get paid to people in the private-sector do?

222 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:51:26am

re: #219 Talking Point Detective

If you need any advise on pumping water out of basements, I have plenty of experience.

I have a large wet vac (maybe 15 gallons). It'll take me most of the afternoon. Any better ideas?

223 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:52:29am

re: #222 Killgore Trout

I have a large wet vac (maybe 15 gallons). It'll take me most of the afternoon. Any better ideas?

A very very very big paper towel.

224 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:52:38am

re: #222 Killgore Trout

I have a large wet vac (maybe 15 gallons). It'll take me most of the afternoon. Any better ideas?

If you have a slope to provide a head, start a couple hose siphons.

225 CuriousLurker  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:55:25am

re: #223 NJDhockeyfan

A very very very big paper towel.

Yep. Here, take this...*hands KT spare box of Kleenex*

You can use it for the floor, or to wipe away your tears. //

Okay, I'm being shitty, I admit it. Sorry.

226 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:55:41am

re: #224 Decatur Deb

If you have a slope to provide a head, start a couple hose siphons.

Probably not. The basement is sunk about 6 inches below the nearest grade I can find outside but that's a good idea. I might look abound and see if I can get a hose long enough to reach lower ground. Maybe I can snake a hose into a storm drain out on the street.

227 jaunte  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:56:38am

re: #226 Killgore Trout

The local hardware store or Home Depot might rent you a sump pump, which should clear it out pretty quickly.

228 lawhawk  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:56:56am

re: #222 Killgore Trout

You might want to look at renting a pump system to drain the water out and then use the wet/dry to clean up the damp spots.

Tough situation to be sure, but you might want to look at a water cutoff to prevent it from happening in the future - it only lets water run to the washing machine when the machine is turned on.

229 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:57:09am

re: #226 Killgore Trout

Probably not. The basement is sunk about 6 inches below the nearest grade I can find outside but that's a good idea. I might look abound and see if I can get a hose long enough to reach lower ground. Maybe I can snake a hose into a storm drain out on the street.

A three foot head empties my barrel through a garden hose in about 30 min.

230 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:57:21am

re: #227 jaunte

The local hardware store or Home Depot might rent you a sump pump, which should clear it out pretty quickly.

I can shop for a new washing machine while I'm there.

231 Gus  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:57:37am

re: #230 Killgore Trout

I can shop for a new washing machine while I'm there.

[Link: www.homedepotrents.com...]

232 Talking Point Detective  Mon, May 14, 2012 7:58:32am

re: #222 Killgore Trout

I have a large wet vac (maybe 15 gallons). It'll take me most of the afternoon. Any better ideas?

You can get one of these pretty cheap - much better than a wet-vac.

[Link: www.wayfair.com...]

I use one of those plus a wet-vac. I don't know if your wet-vac has a pump attached (most they're selling these days don't) - but if it doesn't, you can buy, relatively cheap, a pump to attach to it.

And make sure you work proactively to eliminate mold especially if you have any drywall partitions. It's amazing how quickly mold develops and proliferates in a wet basement.

233 Talking Point Detective  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:00:30am

re: #227 jaunte

Sump-pumps, per se, is not really what you want (they're designed to work in a pit) - what you want is one that can sit on the surface of the floor and suck from the bottom; some require only about 1/2 inch of water or so to keep pumping.

Using one of those and a wet-vac to suck up the leftovers works pretty well.

234 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:00:46am

re: #230 Killgore Trout

I can shop for a new washing machine while I'm there.

If you have a gas or electric pressure sprayer, you have a pump.

235 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:03:36am

re: #234 Decatur Deb

If you have a gas or electric pressure sprayer, you have a pump.

Shop vacs work pretty well too.

236 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:05:21am

Ok, thanks for the advice folks. I gotta get to work.

237 lawhawk  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:07:50am

re: #236 Killgore Trout

Good luck!

238 Talking Point Detective  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:07:58am

re: #235 NJDhockeyfan

Shop vacs work pretty well too.

The problem with shop vacs that they sell these days is that you have to empty them by hand. The wet-dry vacs used to have pumps attached, but for some reason it's become kind of difficult to find those anymore. Maybe it's because they can make more money by selling a separate pump that you attach - or maybe it's because it was difficult to manufacture a combination vacuum and pump that lasted (the ones I had previously crapped out pretty quickly).

A couple different ones are still manufactured, but most Home Depots and Lowes' I've been to around the Philly area don't have them in stock.

239 Obdicut  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:31:51am

re: #238 Talking Point Detective

I like using sump pumps, but to sump pump you've got to have a sump from which to pump.

240 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:34:23am

It looks like the NATO summit protests are starting early...

Protesters arrested at Obama Chicago office ahead of NATO summit

CHICAGO, May 14 (Reuters) - Eight protesters were arrested at President Barack Obama's campaign reelection headquarters in downtown Chicago on Monday, giving local police a first taste of what is expected to be a week of protests centered on the NATO Summit this weekend.

About 100 protesters gathered at the Obama offices in a lakefront tower building as morning commuters were streaming into work. Eight were arrested on for trespassing at about 9 a.m. local time, Chicago police spokeswoman Laura Kubiak said.

According to local media reports, dozens of protesters entered the building and ran up escalators. The group, which was organized by the Catholic Worker movement, sang folk songs celebrating peace.

A representative for the Obama campaign had no immediate comment on the incident.

Obama hosts a meeting of leaders from the NATO military alliance beginning this weekend which is expected to include a discussion of the worsening situation in war-torn Afghanistan.

241 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:47:26am
242 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:48:43am

re: #240 NJDhockeyfan

It looks like the NATO summit protests are starting early...

Protesters arrested at Obama Chicago office ahead of NATO summit

I guess I won't be going into the City this week.

What a mess.

243 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:49:59am

re: #239 Obdicut

I like using sump pumps, but to sump pump you've got to have a sump from which to pump.

Don't bump your sump pump, or bump with your sump pump. You might accidently dump your sump pump and fall on your rump.

244 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:50:56am

This 121-Megapixel Photo of Earth Will Make Your Jaw Drop

Need something to put things into perspective on a Monday morning? Our suggestion: The largest single-shot photo of Earth ever taken.

Eclipsing NASA's updated "Blue Marble" shot, which is a composite of many satellite images, this image is a single-shot taken from 22,369 miles away by Russian weather satellite Elektro-L No.1.

The colors on the 121-megapixel photo are quite different from the ones on NASA's photos of Earth. To capture the image, the satellite combines visible and infrared wavelengths of light. Infrared light is used to see plants, which is why the parts of the Earth that would normally be green are seen as rusty brown.

245 HappyBenghazi  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:52:24am

re: #241 ggt

MORNING!

Must Watch to brighten your Monday Morning!

How is everyone?

All partied out- two parties this weekend. Life is good though.

246 Gus  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:53:31am

More knuckle dragger fun at link.

247 Gus  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:54:47am

re: #246 Gus

[Embedded content] More knuckle dragger fun at link.

...

One section asks this leading question: "Did dinosaurs and people live at the same time, and why do so many recently discovered ancient art works accurately picture dinosaurs?" The answer is a resounding "yes." "The only reasonable explanation for the stegosaurus carved in stone on the wall of the Cambodian temple is that the artist had either seen a stegosaur or had seen other art works of a stegosaur," Quist writes. "Either way, people and stegosaurs were living at the same time."

248 Gus  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:55:14am

re: #246 Gus

[Embedded content] More knuckle dragger fun at link.

...

In one memorable interview, Quist told a British reporter he believed women were "genetically predisposed" to be subservient to men, pointing to, among other things, the behavior of wild animals.

249 HappyBenghazi  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:56:48am

re: #246 Gus

[Embedded content] More knuckle dragger fun at link.

At least he doesn't believe fossils were planted by Satan to trick us but still Yabba Dabba Doo.

250 HappyBenghazi  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:57:43am

re: #248 Gus

...

He's obviously never seen a praying mantis.

251 Gus  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:58:20am

re: #250 HappyWarrior

He's obviously never seen a praying mantis.

He's another weirdo. Thinks "Job-41" is an example of the "Super Croc."

252 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:59:55am

Let's return to insanity -witchcraft and burning women at the stake?

Curb HIV With Female Circumcision And Shaving Heads, Says Zimbabwe Politician Morgan Femai

253 HappyBenghazi  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:03:14am

re: #252 ggt

Let's return to insanity -witchcraft and burning women at the stake?

Curb HIV With Female Circumcision And Shaving Heads, Says Zimbabwe Politician Morgan Femai

Honestly I am shocked Robert Mugawbe isn't the author of that statement.

254 Gus  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:04:48am

bbl

255 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:05:29am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

Honestly I am shocked Robert Mugawbe isn't the author of that statement.

When all else fails, blame your troubles on:

Jews
blacks
women &
cats

256 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:09:48am
257 KronoGhazi  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:10:22am

re: #252 ggt

Let's return to insanity -witchcraft and burning women at the stake?

Curb HIV With Female Circumcision And Shaving Heads, Says Zimbabwe Politician Morgan Femai

Hm... all these great ideas rely upon women bearing the burden of responsibility. How about men having their testicles removed?

258 lawhawk  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:11:27am

re: #257 Kronocide

That would take a huge set of balls to even propose that kind of measure. /

259 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:12:15am

re: #257 Kronocide

Hm... all these great ideas rely upon women bearing the burden of responsibility. How about men having their testicles removed?

Have to wonder if it is all women in Zimbabwe or just poor women, or women whose men are in opposition to the current tyrant.

260 lawhawk  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:13:28am

Egypt brokers deal to end Palestinian hunger strike against Israel over detentions and to move to end administrative detentions that can go on indefinitely:

While Israel had signaled it was prepared to offer concessions on prison conditions, it has showed no willingness to end so-called administrative detention, where prisoners can be held indefinitely without charge or trial.

Azzam al-Ahmed, a senior official of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas's mainstream Fatah movement, said prisoner leaders had been brought to a jail in the Israeli town of Ashkelon for discussions with Israeli officials on implementing the deal.

"We hope the agreement concludes today, barring any obstacles," Ahmed told Voice of Palestine radio.

Ahmed said that under the draft accord, Israel would release so-called "administrative detainees", prisoners held without trial, once their detention period was over. Israel usually holds such prisoners for six-month terms that a military court can extend.

A Palestinian official in Cairo said Israel also had agreed to renew family visits for prisoners from the Gaza Strip that had been suspended after Israeli soldier Gilad Schalit was captured by Hamas and taken to Gaza in 2006. He was released last October in exchange for more than 1,000 Palestinian prisoners.

261 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:16:52am

I love it when I post something on fb and the same person always kneejerk responds with a Fox News Hannity segment/interview.

I quit responding. What is the point?

262 KronoGhazi  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:19:16am

re: #258 lawhawk

That would take a huge set of balls to even propose that kind of measure. /

The equivalent measure would be for men to have the tip of their penis cut off.

But for women, a rational response to a pressing societal problem.

The whole rationalization sounds nutz. Because it is.

263 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:21:29am

re: #262 Kronocide

The whole rationalization sounds nutz. Because it is.

quoted and bolded for Truth!

264 Eventual Carrion  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:21:50am

re: #247 Gus

...

"The only reasonable explanation for the stegosaurus carved in stone on the wall of the Cambodian temple is that the artist had either seen a stegosaur or had seen other art works of a stegosaur," Quist writes. "Either way, people and stegosaurs were living at the same time."

Or a hippo in front of a lotus tree. Or would that be too unreasonable for this guy.

265 KronoGhazi  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:22:17am

re: #259 ggt

Have to wonder if it is all women in Zimbabwe or just poor women, or women whose men are in opposition to the current tyrant.

The answer to your question is yes. And if you're really bad, they'll clitorally circumcise you then rape you immediately after for having the temerity to tell them they're knuckledragging cavemen.

266 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:24:00am

re: #265 Kronocide

The answer to your question is yes. And if you're really bad, they'll clitorally circumcise you then rape you immediately after for having the temerity to tell them they're knuckledragging cavemen.

And that will prove . . .what exactly? (in their minds)

never mind, I don't want to know.

267 Flounder  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:26:26am

re: #230 Killgore Trout

Careful how you phrase your request at Home Depot for hose and head and such...

268 KronoGhazi  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:27:19am

We need to get back to traditions that valued the family. Like when you see a woman you want to marry, you offer two cows and a goat to her father.

Or the Real Man's way, you hit her over the head with your club and drag her by the hair.

269 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:28:15am

re: #240 NJDhockeyfan

It looks like the NATO summit protests are starting early...

Protesters arrested at Obama Chicago office ahead of NATO summit

I've been hearing a lot from the Catholic Worker movement since OWS started.

270 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:28:22am

Why Are So Many Young Adults Cavalier About Birth Control?

I probably don’t need to work too hard to convince you that this country has serious problems accepting scientific facts, but a short list of evidence: Anti-vaccination nuttery, homeopathy, global warming denialism, creationism. All these have high levels of popularity, or at least some amount of influence over ordinary people. This kind of suspicion of science affects how people understand the effectiveness of contraceptio. To make it worse, people’s understanding of how these things works relies so much on word of mouth. The problem is that a lot of people who misuse or don’t use contraception and then get pregnant claim to family and friends that they were using contraception, which reinforces the false belief that it’s less effective than it is and that you can’t stop fate when it comes to getting pregnant.

The second reason that there’s an overemphasis on this “fate” narrative is that Americans still just aren’t completely comfortable yet with sex for pleasure, especially when it’s women having it. Hard to believe in a culture drenched with porn, but yet there we are. The notion that a woman can go for years, decades, even her entire life having all the sex she wants without necessarily having to pay for it with an unintended pregnancy doesn’t make sense in the sin-and-punishment narrative that lingers in American attitudes about sex./blockquote>

271 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:30:55am

re: #268 Kronocide

We need to get back to traditions that valued the family. Like when you see a woman you want to marry, you offer two cows and a goat to her father. And on your wedding night, she closes her eyes and thinks of England.

Or the Real Man's way, you hit her over the head with your club and drag her by the hair.

FTFY

272 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:31:05am

The wet vac is working well. I Elevated it on milk crates and have a hose to drain to the outside. The draining is a bit slow but it's the easiest and least messy option for now. 150 gallons drained out of the basement and I haven't made a dent in the water level. Probably over 1,000 gallons down there.

273 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:32:51am

re: #272 Killgore Trout

The wet vac is working well. I Elevated it on milk crates and have a hose to drain to the outside. The draining is a bit slow but it's the easiest and least messy option for now. 150 gallons drained out of the basement and I haven't made a dent in the water level. Probably over 1,000 gallons down there.

(((Kilgore)))

I am so sorry. I have a particular aversion to houses and water in the same sentence. Been thru enough of it myself.

274 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:34:00am

re: #242 ggt

I guess I won't be going into the City this week.

What a mess.

But how will the back taxes on the orphanage get paid?!?
;)

275 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:35:01am

re: #274 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

But how will the back taxes on the orphanage get paid?!?
;)

I'll stage a Blues concert in some suburb . . .

276 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:35:57am

re: #248 Gus

...

Does karma now indicate that Quist reincarnates as a male preying mantis?

277 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:36:48am

re: #276 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Does karma now indicate that Quist reincarnates as a male preying mantis?

Well, yes, it would be the result of his Karma.

278 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:37:10am

re: #273 ggt

(((Kilgore)))

I am so sorry. I have a particular aversion to houses and water in the same sentence. Been thru enough of it myself.

Luckily there won't be much property damage. Most of my possessions are shit anyways. The only thing I'm worriried about is a few antique Persian rugs that my mom insisted on sending me. I don't want them but they're very valuable. I should be able to reach them later this afternoon.

279 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:38:03am

re: #278 Killgore Trout

Luckily there won't be much property damage. Most of my possessions are shit anyways. The only thing I'm worriried about is a few antique Persian rugs that my mom insisted on sending me. I don't want them but they're very valuable. I should be able to reach them later this afternoon.

They can be cleaned and restored.

All will be well.

280 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:38:48am

re: #272 Killgore Trout

The wet vac is working well. I Elevated it on milk crates and have a hose to drain to the outside. The draining is a bit slow but it's the easiest and least messy option for now. 150 gallons drained out of the basement and I haven't made a dent in the water level. Probably over 1,000 gallons down there.

You realize that you're simply attempting to stifle the frog's counterinvasion? You built a green house and excluded them, so they're preparing to invade your basement.
/ ;)

281 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:39:44am

re: #280 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

You realize that you're simply attempting to stifle the frog's counterinvasion? You built a green house and excluded them, so they're preparing to invade your basement.
/ ;)

Creating a wet, damp, cool place was just the first step in terraforming their new realm.

282 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:43:11am

Whoever Leaked the Underwear Bomber Story Ought to Be Nervous

The heat is on a U.S. official responsible for leaking details of al Qaeda's disrupted bomb plot to the Associated Press.

On the Sunday talk shows, high-ranking officials in both chambers of Congress across both parties called for investigations and the prosecution of the man or woman who leaked details about the infiltration of al Qaeda's Yemen branch. Unlike previous situations, where government crackdowns on leakers has been criticized, this appears to be a fairly clear-cut case of improper leaking.

Leaks have been a problem for many years. I think this one went too far and whoever it was will probably be made an example of.

283 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:44:30am

re: #282 NJDhockeyfan

Whoever Leaked the Underwear Bomber Story Ought to Be Nervous

Leaks have been a problem for many years. I think this one went too far and whoever it was will probably be made an example of.

Yeah, there is a big difference between leaking and whistleblowing . . .

284 KronoGhazi  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:44:44am

re: #261 ggt

I love it when I post something on fb and the same person always kneejerk responds with a Fox News Hannity segment/interview.

I quit responding. What is the point?

I had one of those last night, posting mind numbingly stupid crap about Obama EO's enabling the UN to trash US sovereignty and take over. Of course he titled the post 'Wake Up People.'

After about 20 posts he quit and Liked my last few posts, including this one:
This is what's wrong with our country: people repeat misinformation, don't check the facts, but repeat information they want to believe.

285 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:45:59am

re: #284 Kronocide

I had one of those last night, posting mind numbingly stupid crap about Obama EO's enabling the UN to trash US sovereignty and take over. Of course he titled the post 'Wake Up People.'

After about 20 posts he quit and Liked my last few posts, including this one:
This is what's wrong with our country: people repeat misinformation, don't check the facts, but repeat information they want to believe.

I do that to with this guy, I just don't have the stomach to watch the Hannity segment right now.

What I want to respond is to ask him to source something Other than Hannity or Fox News --but that would require him to do some thinking for himself.

Add to that, he falls into the category of "As long as white men (me) are prosperous, everyone else will be too."

286 Obdicut  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:46:39am

re: #282 NJDhockeyfan

Yep. Having agents go to the amazing danger and lengths of infiltrating organizations in secret isn't much good if it gets publicized. It also leads to people naively thinking that this is the first time we've done this sort of thing, which isn't really harmful but is kind of funny.

287 HappyBenghazi  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:48:04am

re: #284 Kronocide

I had one of those last night, posting mind numbingly stupid crap about Obama EO's enabling the UN to trash US sovereignty and take over. Of course he titled the post 'Wake Up People.'

After about 20 posts he quit and Liked my last few posts, including this one:
This is what's wrong with our country: people repeat misinformation, don't check the facts, but repeat information they want to believe.

UN fear conspiracies are as old as the UN itself.

288 b_snark  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:48:15am

re: #272 Killgore Trout

The wet vac is working well. I Elevated it on milk crates and have a hose to drain to the outside. The draining is a bit slow but it's the easiest and least messy option for now. 150 gallons drained out of the basement and I haven't made a dent in the water level. Probably over 1,000 gallons down there.

What happened?

289 b_snark  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:49:34am

re: #283 ggt

Yeah, there is a big difference between leaking and whistleblowing . . .

Depends.

290 KronoGhazi  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:49:55am

re: #287 HappyWarrior

UN fear conspiracies are as old as the UN itself.

I think it's just neo-Jewish Banker conspiracy. No less putrid.

291 HappyBenghazi  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:50:52am

re: #290 Kronocide

I think it's just neo-Jewish Banker conspiracy. No less putrid.

Probably.

292 b_snark  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:53:05am

There's a scorpion in your pants.

293 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:53:32am

Republican’s Mental Torture of Women

Unadulterated state-sponsored mental torture. The sonogram law has been sold as one which simply wants to make women better informed about the dangers of abortion. Bullshit. The law is nothing more than government forcing theocratic beliefs on its citizenry and is another step in the Christian fundamentalist wing of the Republican party’s war on women.

294 Flounder  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:54:15am

I thought he was going to walk,
Ex-state Sen. Pedro Espada Jr. got blasted with a grand slam of guilty verdicts today by a Brooklyn federal court jury.

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

295 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:55:46am

re: #288 Cathartic Expression

What happened?

My washing machine "repair" had some unintended consequences.

296 b_snark  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:56:46am

re: #295 Killgore Trout

My washing machine "repair" had some unintended consequences.

Holy shit. I hope to hell you have insurance.

297 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:58:47am

re: #296 Cathartic Expression

Holy shit. I hope to hell you have insurance.

It's an unfinished basement with cement floors. Clean up shouldn't take too long and property damage will be minimal. I doubt they'd cover my stupidity anyways.

298 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 9:59:20am

re: #295 Killgore Trout

My washing machine "repair" had some unintended consequences.

Another example of what My hubby and I have come to learn as we *ahem* get older.

"Paying the repairman his service call fee is a good idea."

I think we get to a point in our lives in which our time and physical effort is worth more than the money.

Age sucks in that respect. I totally cleaned the family room last week --walls, ceiling, books and bookshelves, furniture, carpet. What used to take me less than a day took me 3 days.

299 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:00:13am

re: #297 Killgore Trout

It's an unfinished basement with cement floors. Clean up shouldn't take too long and property damage will be minimal. I doubt they'd cover my stupidity anyways.

worth submitting, if the cost of the rental etc is over your deductible. They used to pay you for your time if you did it yourself because it would be cheaper than paying a professional to do it.

ASk your agent.

300 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:01:31am

imagine that?

Small Study Reports Benefit of Marijuana on MS Spasticity

May 14, 2012
A small clinical trial by California investigators found some benefit of smoked marijuana against spasticity (muscle tightness and spasms) and pain in people with MS. Participants also experienced significantly reduced thinking ability after smoking marijuana, highlighting the need for research on cannabis products or other treatments that can more selectively reduce painful symptoms without producing adverse effects on cognitive function. Additional research examining the effects of marijuana on spasticity in MS is being supported by the National MS Society and others. The current study was published online on May 14, 2012 in the Canadian Medical Association Journal (CMAJ).

301 Kragar  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:01:58am

Fischer: 'I am not Anti-Mormon, I am Anti-Mormonism'

Now I want to say this again, I am not anti-Mormon. I am anti-Mormonism because I think it's error, but I am pro-Mormon. I am for Mormons, I want to see them come to a full understanding of the truth. I bear them no ill will, I bear them no malice, I love them, I want them to come into the full light of the truth.

302 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:03:21am
303 b_snark  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:04:13am

re: #301 Kragar

Fischer: 'I am not Anti-Mormon, I am Anti-Mormonism'

I really do love the stupid bastards unless they refuse to believe what I believe because I'm bloody well as omniscient as God!

304 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:04:30am

re: #297 Killgore Trout

It's an unfinished basement with cement floors. Clean up shouldn't take too long and property damage will be minimal. I doubt they'd cover my stupidity anyways.

I went through that a few years back when I was renting a house. Make sure you use lots of bleach to prevent mold from growing. That would be a far worse problem than flooding.

305 b_snark  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:05:29am

re: #304 NJDhockeyfan

I went through that a few years back when I was renting a house. Make sure you use lots of bleach to prevent mold from growing. That would be a far worse problem than flooding.

Black mold can be a killer.

306 Obdicut  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:07:15am

re: #305 Cathartic Expression

I really like the show "Dirty Jobs", but the one time I wanted to punch the host was during the cleanup of a house in New Orleans post-flood. He did something that sent a cloud of dust-- and mold spores-- into the air, and everyone started at once saying "no no no". That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen him do on that show.

307 AK-47%  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:07:26am
308 Kragar  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:07:53am

Garlow: Opposing Gay Marriage May Cost Us Our Lives

Garlow weighed in, declaring that religious liberty and "the radical homosexual agenda" were on course for a head-on collision in America because "they cannot both exist in the same nation at the same time." As such, Garlow warned that advances in marriage equality will eventually force the Christian church underground because the gay agenda is all about "coercion, and crushing, and taking away our liberties and freedoms." But nonetheless, Garlow said, Christians must be willing to stand up and speak out in opposition even though "we are coming into an era where it could cost us everything, including our lives":

I love how these people have such a strong faith in their religion that people not living by their same beliefs is considered life threatening.

309 HappyBenghazi  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:08:26am

re: #308 Kragar

Garlow: Opposing Gay Marriage May Cost Us Our Lives

I love how these people have such a strong faith in their religion that people not living by their same beliefs is considered life threatening.

Oh yikes martyr complex much.

310 HappyBenghazi  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:09:48am

re: #307 Expand Your Ground

Being Republican is a choice. So is being a dickhead.

So, Lankford would be okay with someone being fired over being straight? Nah.

311 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:11:10am

I missed this:
Gates Foundation Will No Longer Make Grants to ALEC Nonprofit

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation today became the latest backer to withdraw financial support for the American Legislative Exchange Council.
A foundation spokesman told Roll Call that it does not plan to make future grants to the conservative nonprofit, which has come under fire from progressive activists for its support of voter identification laws and other contentious measures.
The foundation, run by the co-founder of Microsoft Corp. and his wife, contributed more than $375,000 to ALEC in the past two years and was the target of an online petition launched today by the liberal Progressive Change Campaign Committee that garnered more than 23,000 signatures in a matter of hours.

312 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:11:22am

re: #301 Kragar

Fischer: 'I am not Anti-Mormon, I am Anti-Mormonism'

I translate that as "I like your fanatical religious faith, but wish it was under my direct command rather than someone else's."

313 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:12:30am

Hatred of Israel is getting violent in Germany...

Radicals attack ‘I Like Israel’ event in Germany

BERLIN – Right-wing radicals attacked a booth distributing pro-Israel materials at the “I Like Israel” event in the west German city of Siegen on Saturday, resulting in physical injuries to two women and a man, according to the news outlet n-tv.

The veteran German journalist Ulrich Sahm reported on n-tv’s website that the public prosecutor investigating the assault said a 25-year-old right-wing extremist was arrested.

Roger Bückert, head of the pro-Israel group “neveragain” and an organizer of the booth, told n-tv that he was “not surprised but nonetheless shocked.”

The assault involved four to five masked anti- Israel radicals who are believed to be active in the neo-Nazi political scene. “I Like Israel” is a nationwide annual event that blankets 64 German cities and towns to promote solidarity with the Jewish state and celebrate its Independence Day – with the head of Germany’s Central Council of Jews, Dr. Dieter Graumann, serving as a patron.

According to n-tv, there have been verbal tirades against Israel supporters at the I Like Israel event in the past, but not physical attacks.

314 HappyBenghazi  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:12:43am

I'm not anti-douchebag, I'm anti douchbaggery.

315 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:13:35am

Only in Texas (so far..)

Can the state force a person to take drugs in order to execute him? That is the grisly question raised by the case of Steven Staley, a convicted murderer who believes polygraph machines are controlling and torturing him. Even though he’s psychotic, Staley is scheduled to be executed next week, based on a judge’s order requiring him to take medication he has refused. If Texas actually goes ahead with this deeply disturbing plan, it will be the first state, as far as I can tell, to drug someone in order to carry out a death sentence. That is a distinction that no one on the planet should want to have.

At least half the state will hoot & holler and have no problem with that whatsoever.

In the old days the heretic walked to the stake still a heretic, proclaiming his heresy, exulting in it. Even the victim of the Russian purges could carry rebellion locked up in his skull as he walked down the passage waiting for the bullet. But we make the brain perfect before we blow it out.

George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty Four

316 AK-47%  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:14:54am

re: #308 Kragar

Garlow: Opposing Gay Marriage May Cost Us Our Lives

I love how these people have such a strong faith in their religion that people not living by their same beliefs is considered life threatening.

Once again, this is Dominionism: the belief that America's unique standing in the world arises from the fact that our nation's laws reflect (thier bigoted, fundamentalist view of) God's Divine Laws.

The second that we stray from (their interpretation of) God's laws by allowing things like gay marriage, abortion, perostititution, drug use, gambling, gun control progressive taxation, etc., we are "shaking our fist at God" and inviting his Divine Wrath upon our heads.

That is what gets them so worked up, it is why they can never be content with the notion of "we disapprove of it, and don't want you to do it, but the law says it cannot be prohibited".

317 lawhawk  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:19:15am

re: #294 Tommy's cone of shame

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. He founded and ran the charity, but he ended up using the funds meant for those in need for his own benefit. It involves Medicare/Medicaid funding as well as state funds that were directed at Soundview by Espada when he was in office. With the convictions, it may kill the health care network and end health care access to many in those communities. So, it not only affects Espada, but those who the charity was meant to help.

318 Eventual Carrion  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:26:11am

re: #308 Kragar

Garlow: Opposing Gay Marriage May Cost Us Our Lives

I love how these people have such a strong faith in their religion that people not living by their same beliefs is considered life threatening.

Well there has been that rash of religious people getting dragged behind pickup trucks until dead, and being tied to a post until death, and being beaten to death, and ...

319 Eventual Carrion  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:27:14am

re: #310 HappyWarrior

So, Lankford would be okay with someone being fired over being straight? Nah.

Or for their "choice" of religion.

320 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:29:57am

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