Breitbart.com Publishes Ludicrous ‘Not-Birther’ Article (Wink)

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In a way, it’s kind of sad to see what the right wing blogosphere has turned into. But also kind of hilarious.

Remember when Andrew Breitbart used to beg conservatives not to indulge the Birther conspiracy theory? (While, at the same time, appearing at speaking events with well-known Birthers?)

Well, with Andrew gone, the mini-Breitbarts who’ve turned his site from a propaganda machine into a laughingstock are no longer worried about that.

Possibly the dumbest right wing article you’ll read today, from breitbart.com’s Joel Pollak: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama’s Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: ‘Born in Kenya and Raised in Indonesia and Hawaii’.

FEAR THE VETTING!

Here’s what they “vetted” this time: a promotional booklet written and produced by a literary agency in 1991, not intended for public distribution, that incorrectly states Barack Obama was “born in Kenya.”

Pollak sanctimoniously invokes the name of their departed founder in an intro that says, “This isn’t a Birther article, folks, no matter how much it looks like one. (Wink, wink.)”

Note from Senior Management:

Andrew Breitbart was never a “Birther,” and Breitbart News is a site that has never advocated the narrative of “Birtherism.” In fact, Andrew believed, as we do, that President Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on August 4, 1961.

Yet Andrew also believed that the complicit mainstream media had refused to examine President Obama’s ideological past, or the carefully crafted persona he and his advisers had constructed for him.

It is for that reason that we launched “The Vetting,” an ongoing series in which we explore the ideological background of President Obama (and other presidential candidates)—not to re-litigate 2008, but because ideas and actions have consequences.

It is also in that spirit that we discovered, and now present, the booklet described below—one that includes a marketing pitch for a forthcoming book by a then-young, otherwise unknown former president of the Harvard Law Review.

It is evidence—not of the President’s foreign origin, but that Barack Obama’s public persona has perhaps been presented differently at different times.

Do I even have to tell you what kind of comments are being posted for Pollak’s ludicrous article? The place is lousy with Birthers, of course. A small selection of comments from the deluge:

This why all of his school history and college and law school writings remain hidden. His birth history and his Marxist education and ideology would have prevented him from being president. Let’s see NBC spin this.

[…]

The only mistake the birthers make is by jumping to the conclusion that, because the Obama birth certificate is a fraud (which it plainly is), therefore Obama is not an American citizen. There are a lot of reasons for forging a birth certificate. They all disqualify Obama from re-election. But they don’t all require that he isn’t an American citizen. The birther movement needs to focus on one thing and one thing only: making Obama explain why he has presented a fraudulent birth certificate to the public.

[…]

“It is evidence—not of the President’s foreign origin, but that
Barack Obama’s public persona has perhaps been presented differently at
different times.”

And why ISN’T it evidence of Obama’s “foreign origin”? Combined with his stalling over the release of his birth certificate, and his then releasing an obviously forged birth certificate, why in the world wouldn’t this be considered supporting evidence for his having been born in Kenya?

[…]

This:

“Note from Senior Management:
Andrew Breitbart was never a ‘Birther,’ and Breitbart News is a site that has never advocated the narrative of ‘Birtherism.’”

…is unfortunate. It smacks of elitism and ignorance. It is as if one has put a sign on his own bum that says, “Kick me, I’m a Dupe.”

[…]

WTF is with all the apologetic CRAP about “birthers”?

Look, if you AREN’T a birther, you’re a DUMB ASS. His birth narrative has been shown to be false, he has released TWO FORGERIES to the US pop’l AND is using a social security number issued from CT, a state he NEVER lived in, in 1977 to another person who has since died, a federal offense.

If you came to the conclusion that he WAS born in the US, then you lack ANY ability to logically reason and are a complete MORON. So why apologize for not being an IDIOT?!?!?

What, are you afraid the main stream media will attack you? THEY ALREADY DO! Are you afraid of the TRUTH!?!?!? C’mon now. Grow a pair.

Face it. He’s a foreign born America hating Marxist who has usurped the presidency.

Who could ever have predicted this kind of response?

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99 comments
1 neilk  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:36:13am

Good news, everyone. They've found the REAL Birthers.

2 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:36:56am

The only birther I know is thirteen years old.

3 ShaunP  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:38:54am

Government docs - irrelevant
Newspaper announcements from the time - laughable
Some guy wrote it - incontrovertible proof!!!1

4 HappyBenghazi  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:39:32am

re: #3 ShaunP

Government docs - irrelevant
Newspaper announcements from the time - laughable
Some guy wrote it - incontrovertible proof!!!1

Pretty much. Man the Breitbartians are morons. Talk about only believing what you want to see.

5 jaunte  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:40:04am

It's a sort of wonderfully goofy species mind that lets Pollak write a headline like "The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama’s Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: ‘Born in Kenya and Raised in Indonesia and Hawaii" and then accuse Obama of being manipulative.

6 neilk  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:41:20am

We are going to get to the bottom of this. Why does Obama try so hard to persuade us that he was born in Kenya?

7 lawhawk  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:41:32am

All that's missing is Orly Taitz showing up in the comments...

8 b_snark  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:42:02am

re: #7 lawhawk

All that's missing is Orly Taitz showing up in the comments...

Please do not say that name two more times.

9 Targetpractice  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:42:11am

re: #7 lawhawk

All that's missing is Orly Taitz showing up in the comments...

Her Senate campaign is probably keeping her busy.

...

Seriously, that's not a joke, so stop laughing.

10 Kragar  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:42:26am

Just when I thought they couldn't get any dumber, they pull something like this... AND TOTALLY REDEEM THEMSELVES!!!
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11 HappyBenghazi  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:42:48am

re: #10 Kragar

Just when I thought they couldn't get any dumber, they pull something like this... AND TOTALLY REDEEM THEMSELVES!!!
///

Dumb and Dumber for the win.

12 darthstar  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:43:05am

re: #8 Ghost of Insanity

Please do not say that name two more times.

She would make Beetlejuice vomit.

13 Mattand  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:43:33am

re: #7 lawhawk

All that's missing is Orly Taitz showing up in the comments...

It's not easy to post on a website in crayon.

14 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:44:37am

re: #3 ShaunP

Government docs - irrelevant
Newspaper announcements from the time - laughable
Some guy wrote it - incontrovertible proof!!!1

Have you ever walked through what it would take to get the newspapers announcement fakes in every library in the US (and probably some outside the US) on microfilm?

First--you have to have an inside man at the company that makes the microfilms. Every single library in the US does not have it's own machine for making the films, obviously.

You have to make a perfect copy that also appears to be over forty years old and is different only in that one page.

You have to have an operative go into every library (most public libraries, school libraries, and university libraries), check out the offending film and swap it out. You'll need a large stack of old reels, because using a brand new one would be suspicious. Smuggle the old film out. Nobody can see you do this, so you'll have to choose a time when the microfilm reader room is empty. No, they can't be checked out.

You can't miss a library, just in case.

15 neilk  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:45:25am

re: #14 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Really hoping Breitbart has someone checking every library's microfilm of old Hawaii papers. Just in case.

16 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:46:15am

Oh, and some libraries are starting to digitize things, so you'll need a hacker.

17 HappyBenghazi  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:48:03am

re: #16 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Oh, and some libraries are starting to digitize things, so you'll need a hacker.

It's a global conspiracy clearly. George Soros has his minions at work. Joking aside, great point about how hard it would be to do this. Birtherism is just as stupid as Trutherism and its adherents are both insane.

18 b_snark  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:48:10am

Where is the Breitbart mojo?

19 HappyBenghazi  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:50:51am

Heck I think even my loony CT brother thought bitherism was stupid. That should tell you alot since he's someone who believes crazy shit about the Masons, Bildebergers, Illuminati, etc.

21 garhighway  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:50:58am

re: #7 lawhawk

All that's missing is Orly Taitz showing up in the comments...

There is no topic that is not improved by the addition of a lawyer/dentist/realtor.

22 lawhawk  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:52:13am

re: #8 Ghost of Insanity

Betelgeuse. Betelgeuse. Betelgeuse.
/It's Showtime!

23 Kragar  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:52:17am

re: #21 garhighway

There is no topic that is not improved by the addition of a lawyer/dentist/realtor.

Here she is now.

24 HappyBenghazi  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:52:23am
25 JEA62  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:53:25am

"...not to re-litigate 2008..."

Right. This in no way, shape or form is an attempt to re-litigate 2008. Because if it was, it would only prove how bankrupt the far-right is of any ideas at all and how it must turn back the clock four years because it is bankrupt.

If this was meant "not to re-litigate 2008"...

26 Targetpractice  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:53:28am
27 Targetpractice  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:58:26am

Bitherism: The grand conspiracy, involving years/decades of hard work, subterfuge, and sleight-of-hand, designed to put a totally unqualified black man into the White House to enact a socialist agenda designed to tear down America...only to have the truth come out because somebody forgot to duct tape granny's mouth shut about Kenya.

And I thought Truthers were bad.

28 Kragar  Thu, May 17, 2012 11:58:28am

re: #26 Targetpractice

Yeah, but is he selling Pipboys?

//

Give him time.

29 Kragar  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:00:39pm

Missouri National Guard Probes Claims of Neo-Nazis in Ranks

The Missouri National Guard is investigating a new claim that its ranks are infiltrated with neo-Nazis – this time a “patched member” of the violent American Front, whose members stand accused of plotting violence in Florida.

The inquiry comes after the Missouri Legislature conducted a hearing in April to look into how the Guard took more than a year to process three complaints about another guardsmen who was an admitted neo-Nazi.

In the American Front case, a Missouri Guard member identified as Ryan Riley provided firearms and military combat training to members of the white supremacist, militia-style group, including ex-cons, last summer in Florida, court documents allege.

“In July of 2011, Ryan Riley who is a patched member of the AF Missouri chapter was present at an AF compound in north Florida,” the Florida court documents, which just came to light, say. “Riley is also a member of the United States National guard.”

30 HappyBenghazi  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:01:25pm
31 dragonfire1981  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:07:19pm

re: #29 Kragar

Missouri National Guard Probes Claims of Neo-Nazis in Ranks

And suddenly Limbaugh being added to the Hall of Famous Missourians makes much more sense...

32 Locker  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:12:04pm

Why do low brow, knuckle dragging morons think that THEY have exclusive information and insight on issue which they have zero knowledge?

Yes Mr and Mrs Redneck.. you've cracked the case! YOU have uncovered the massive conspiracy of Obama's fake birth certificate that the entire US Government couldn't uncover.

YOU... sitting in your trailer, watching Fox News and listening to Rush and Glen have the ultimate understanding and everyone else is just a denying moron.

Fucking... idiots...

33 KronoGhazi  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:12:24pm

Look, if you AREN’T a birther, you’re a DUMB ASS.

I have no counter to this. Turning off and leaving my computer, all is lost. Good bye now.

Regards, Boohoo Hoo.

34 Kragar  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:13:12pm

re: #33 Kronocide

Look, if you AREN’T a birther, you’re a DUMB ASS.

I have no counter to this. Turning off and leaving my computer, all is lost. Good bye now.

Regards, Boohoo Hoo.

Its pronounced Dumas.

35 simoom  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:14:20pm

Add to this what lawhawk posted a couple threads back, about Rep. Mike Coffman, and his Birther outburst, and it's like the Birther's are making a comeback:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

36 Gus  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:14:43pm

Derp.

37 erik_t  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:17:36pm

re: #36 Gus

Derp.

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Worst. Candidate. Evar.

38 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:17:50pm
39 Gus  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:18:24pm

re: #37 erik_t

Worst. Candidate. Evar.

I came up with a new campaign slogan. It's pretty simple. Can be used for all forms of advertising. Here it is:

ROMNEY SUCKS

40 Kragar  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:18:36pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

That's probably not good.

It does explain a lot about the shit being said and done in Missouri though.

41 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:21:10pm

Secret Right-Wing Dolphin partying site found.

42 Gus  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:22:05pm
43 Gus  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:22:44pm

re: #42 Gus

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Direct link:

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

44 Kragar  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:23:08pm

US Soldier Trained Neo-Nazis in Florida for "Race War"

The 10 members of a Florida-based neo-Nazi militant group arrested last week received training in close-quarters combat and other Army-approved tactics from a member of the US Army National Guard, according to court filings.

The co-conspirators, alleged to be members of the violent white-power American Front, face felony charges for hate crimes, paramilitary training, and preparing for a coming "race war" against blacks, Jews, and immigrants at a fortified compound in the marshlands of St. Cloud, Florida, just south of the amusement-park haven of Orlando. A short paragraph buried in the group's arrest affidavit shows a disturbing link between the Florida gang and a US military employee:

45 Kragar  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:30:26pm

Paged the Missouri Neo-Nazis articles.

46 ShaunP  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:30:32pm

re: #44 Kragar

US Soldier Trained Neo-Nazis in Florida for "Race War"

I always feel weird after updinging a post like this one...

47 Gus  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:30:53pm
48 dragonfire1981  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:31:31pm

re: #47 Gus

Romney: I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was

[Embedded content] Foghorn-Leghorn

Gosh, the Onion really has their work cut out for them these days don't they?

49 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:31:34pm

Looks like Roger L. Simon is turning into a Birther, of the "Bill Ayers wrote Obama's biography" style. Wow.

50 smashin grab  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:32:32pm

sunlight on these slugs is the best disinfectant..

51 Kragar  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:33:48pm

re: #50 smashin grab

sunlight on these slugs is the best disinfectant..

Salt is more effective.

52 simoom  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:34:55pm

re: #36 Gus

Derp.

Romney on Rev. Wright: "“I’m not sure what I said, but I stand by it whatever it was."

He really shouldn't ("stand by it") as what he said was a total mischaracterization of even Hannity's out-of-context quote from a 2006 Obama Speech.

This is the relevant section of the speech -- I'll bold the bit Hannity excerpted:

"While I've already laid out some of the work that progressive leaders need to do, I want to talk a little bit about what conservative leaders need to do — some truths they need to acknowledge.

For one, they need to understand the critical role that the separation of church and state has played in preserving not only our democracy, but the robustness of our religious practice. Folks tend to forget that during our founding, it wasn't the atheists or the civil libertarians who were the most effective champions of the First Amendment. It was the persecuted minorities, it was Baptists like John Leland who didn't want the established churches to impose their views on folks who were getting happy out in the fields and teaching the scripture to slaves. It was the forbearers of the evangelicals who were the most adamant about not mingling government with religious, because they did not want state-sponsored religion hindering their ability to practice their faith as they understood it.

Moreover, given the increasing diversity of America's population, the dangers of sectarianism have never been greater. Whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.

And even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools? Would we go with James Dobson's, or Al Sharpton's? Which passages of Scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is ok and that eating shellfish is abomination? How about Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount - a passage that is so radical that it's doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application? So before we get carried away, let's read our bibles. Folks haven't been reading their bibles.

This brings me to my second point. Democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal, rather than religion-specific, values. It requires that their proposals be subject to argument, and amenable to reason. I may be opposed to abortion for religious reasons, but if I seek to pass a law banning the practice, I cannot simply point to the teachings of my church or evoke God's will. I have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all.

Now this is going to be difficult for some who believe in the inerrancy of the Bible, as many evangelicals do. But in a pluralistic democracy, we have no choice. Politics depends on our ability to persuade each other of common aims based on a common reality. It involves the compromise, the art of what's possible. At some fundamental level, religion does not allow for compromise. It's the art of the impossible. If God has spoken, then followers are expected to live up to God's edicts, regardless of the consequences. To base one's life on such uncompromising commitments may be sublime, but to base our policy making on such commitments would be a dangerous thing."

53 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:36:02pm

Look at what these idiots are writing.

54 smashin grab  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:37:26pm

i am also curious, are the notsobrightbrats still working out of liberal commie socialist gay great weather west LA? since andy was a little rich kid living in tony brentwood? and if you know LA, thats where many well heeled live....

55 Kragar  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:42:49pm

Donna Summer dies at 63

Summer died of cancer Thursday morning in Naples, Fla., said her publicist Brian Edwards. Her family released a statement saying they "are at peace celebrating her extraordinary life and her continued legacy."

56 bratwurst  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:43:38pm

If Obama's record (especially on the economy) is SO awful, why do his detractors need to dredge up the kind of garbage we are smelling today?

57 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:45:54pm

re: #56 bratwurst

If Obama's record (especially on the economy) is SO awful, why do his detractors need to dredge up the kind of garbage we are smelling today?

Because they don't have the capability to stand off and nuke it from orbit. (Luckily.)
/

58 Kragar  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:46:08pm

re: #56 bratwurst

If Obama's record (especially on the economy) is SO awful, why do his detractors need to dredge up the kind of garbage we are smelling today?

Because they've got nothing.

59 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:48:15pm

Wow, what a disappointment. I knew Roger Simon had moved way to the right, but I didn't know he was actually so far gone he'd start taking people like Jack Cashill seriously. Pathetic.

60 Targetpractice  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:51:13pm

re: #56 bratwurst

If Obama's record (especially on the economy) is SO awful, why do his detractors need to dredge up the kind of garbage we are smelling today?

Gas prices and unemployment are coming down, the economy is still growing, Bin Laden's dead, and GM is still alive.

They've got nothing to run on other than hatred of Obama.

61 Neo_  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:51:18pm

President Obama should be made aware that there is some other Barack Obama out there who says he was born in Kenya and was President of the Harvard Law Review

This is identity theft at it's worst

62 Gus  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:52:03pm

Mitt Romney should start referring to himself in the third person.

Mitt Romney doesn't know what Mitt Romney said, but Mitt Romney stands by it.

Whatever it was

63 Mattand  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:52:31pm

re: #29 Kragar

Missouri National Guard Probes Claims of Neo-Nazis in Ranks

There were stories floating around that the NJ State Troopers had a group of guys calling themselves the Lords of Discipline. Liked to wear Nazi gear off hours.

Racists with access to high powered ammo. God bless America, etc. etc.

64 Targetpractice  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:52:47pm

re: #62 Gus

Mitt Romney should start referring to himself in the third person.

Mitt Romney doesn't know what Mitt Romney said, but Mitt Romney stands by it.

Whatever it was

Then his metamorphosis into Bob Dole will be complete.

/

65 Kragar  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:55:01pm

re: #61 Neo_

President Obama should be made aware that there is some other Barack Obama out there who says he was born in Kenya and was President of the Harvard Law Review

This is identity theft at it's worst

He should also be told that he is a homosexual Muslim from Kenya. WND has all the facts to back that up.
/

66 Kragar  Thu, May 17, 2012 12:58:35pm

Edwards Defense: Criminalizing Affairs Would Lead To Prison Boom

“If what John did here [was a crime] then we better build a lot more courtrooms, hire a lot more prosecutors and build a lot more prisons, because the government will always be able to turn an affair into a federal crime,” lead defense lawyer Abbe Lowell told jurors.

That's how they sum up their defense?

/facepalm

67 Gus  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:03:02pm

re: #64 Targetpractice

Then his metamorphosis into Bob Dole will be complete.

/

Now, hold on a minute, Mr. Obama. You know, I know, everyone knows where Mitt Romney stands on the issues. I am not mean spirited; and if you call me that again, I'll stick my pen up your ass. -- Mitt Romney

68 erik_t  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:03:47pm

re: #66 Kragar

Edwards Defense: Criminalizing Affairs Would Lead To Prison Boom

That's how they sum up their defense?

/facepalm

I want to watch an alternate-universe Edwards-Romney debate.

69 Targetpractice  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:04:00pm

re: #66 Kragar

Edwards Defense: Criminalizing Affairs Would Lead To Prison Boom

That's how they sum up their defense?

/facepalm

Seriously, that's his defense? He thinks he's on trial for the affair, not the cover-up?

70 sattv4u2  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:04:59pm

re: #66 Kragar

Edwards Defense: Criminalizing Affairs Would Lead To Prison Boom

That's how they sum up their defense?

/facepalm

They tried the "the dog ate my homework" one but the judge wanted them to produce the dog poop ,,,, SO ,,,,,

71 sattv4u2  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:05:33pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

Seriously, that's his defense? He thinks he's on trial for the affair, not the cover-up misuse of federal campaign funds?

72 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:09:47pm

re: #64 Targetpractice

Then his metamorphosis into Bob Dole will be complete.

/

Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos!

73 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:10:36pm
74 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:10:43pm

How many times does something need vetting before it becomes overvetted?

75 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:11:25pm

re: #74 Iwouldprefernotto

How many times does something need vetting before it becomes overvetted?

When it develops the consistency of microwaved Vetvetta?
;)

76 jaunte  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:13:37pm

re: #74 Iwouldprefernotto

We know that the brochure was offset printed, in silver and blue ink, but what were the Pantone™ numbers of the inks, and did they run it on a Heidelberg?
(You know who else ran things on a Heidelberg????)

77 lawhawk  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:13:43pm

re: #75 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Ah, String Cheese Theory. /

78 Targetpractice  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:14:59pm
79 Kragar  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:35:45pm

Coming soon to a theater near you...

Image: wtf-photos-videos-the-sequal.jpg

80 alpuz  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:36:50pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

Yep - good site. Here's more on the poll and the highly suspect pollster from fightingbob.com:

[Link: fightingbob.com...]

The poll was also released the same day Walker released his new and improved 2011 job numbers followed by an instant tv ad touting said numbers. It appears the waters are being intentionally muddied in Wisconsin.

81 AK-47%  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:37:48pm

re: #79 Kragar

Coming soon to a theater near you...

Image: wtf-photos-videos-the-sequal.jpg

They are almost out of comic book characters to make films out, soon they will run out of toys and video games to screenplay...

What's next, cereal boxes? Count Chocula meets Frankenberry?

82 Gus  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:40:31pm

re: #79 Kragar

Coming soon to a theater near you...

Image: wtf-photos-videos-the-sequal.jpg

"Based on actual events!"

//

83 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:42:46pm

Comments on this Breitbart Birther post are getting really wild. Heading toward 2,000 comments, and a majority of them are by Birthers. Lots of anger at the Breitbrats for not coming all the way out.

84 Gus  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:46:33pm

re: #82 Gus

"Based on actual events!"

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I was reading some description of a new movie to be released later this year called "The Possession". Part of which included "based on a true story" and "based on actual event." Needless to say my eyes rolled to the back of my head upon reading that. It's unbelievable how superstitious people remain in the 21st century. When Hollywood promotes this type of fiction as "based on a true story" it only perpetuates a mythology that only hampers the advancement of human civilization.

85 SidewaysQuark  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:48:01pm

re: #84 Gus

I was reading some description of a new movie to be released later this year called "The Possession". Part of which included "based on a true story" and "based on actual event." Needless to say my eyes rolled to the back of my head upon reading that. It's unbelievable how superstitious people remain in the 21st century. When Hollywood promotes this type of fiction as "based on a true story" it only perpetuates a mythology that only hampers the advancement of human civilization.

In my pessimistic view, superstition is the eigenstate of humanity, from which logical thought is a mere perturbation. In other words, old habits die hard, and probably always will.

86 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:48:19pm

Just a hit and run, flying bears in upstate NY
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]
If you consider falling flying, the locals are upset they don't put a mattress down for the little furry critter.

87 garhighway  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:49:19pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

Comments on this Breitbart Birther post are getting really wild. Heading toward 2,000 comments, and a majority of them are by Birthers. Lots of anger at the Breitbrats for not coming all the way out.

Anger? There?

Gee, that's a surprise.

88 bratwurst  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:51:49pm
89 Gus  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:56:04pm

re: #85 SidewaysQuark

In my pessimistic view, superstition is the eigenstate of humanity, from which logical thought is a mere perturbation. In other words, old habits die hard, and probably always will.

My view is that the hindrance to greater advancement with our civilization is more than mere biblical literalism. It includes the saturation of fiction as reality in the popular media including movies; Ghost Hunters; Alien-Hitler shows; etc. The saturation level is enormous and begins almost as soon as the child is brought home from the hospital maternity ward and placed nearby the television. Add in the popularity of the paranormal and it's respective "alternative medicine" quackery. So I believe that it's not just the biblical literalism and includes a possibly larger dose of hokum from secular norms.

90 SidewaysQuark  Thu, May 17, 2012 1:59:13pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

Comments on this Breitbart Birther post are getting really wild. Heading toward 2,000 comments, and a majority of them are by Birthers. Lots of anger at the Breitbrats for not coming all the way out.

Well, raise a pack of wild angry dogs and you can't pretend to be surprised when they don't fetch the newspaper on command.

91 SidewaysQuark  Thu, May 17, 2012 2:02:16pm

re: #89 Gus

My view is that the hindrance to greater advancement with our civilization is more than mere biblical literalism. It includes the saturation of fiction as reality in the popular media including movies; Ghost Hunters; Alien-Hitler shows; etc. The saturation level is enormous and begins almost as soon as the child is brought home from the hospital maternity ward and placed nearby the television. Add in the popularity of the paranormal and it's respective "alternative medicine" quackery. So I believe that it's not just the biblical literalism and includes a possibly larger dose of hokum from secular norms.

I agree with that 100%. I think, though, that we should also appreciate that we are in our infancy, history-wise, in our exercise of rational thought as a governing paradigm. Civilization is 20,000 years old (give or take), humanity is much older than that - the Enlightenment occurred within the last mere 300 years. To put it crassly, the birth of the beautiful baby of logic hasn't even yet been followed by its afterbirth.

92 Gus  Thu, May 17, 2012 2:12:04pm
93 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 17, 2012 2:17:13pm

re: #14 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Have you ever walked through what it would take to get the newspapers announcement fakes in every library in the US (and probably some outside the US) on microfilm?

First--you have to have an inside man at the company that makes the microfilms. Every single library in the US does not have it's own machine for making the films, obviously.

You have to make a perfect copy that also appears to be over forty years old and is different only in that one page.

You have to have an operative go into every library (most public libraries, school libraries, and university libraries), check out the offending film and swap it out. You'll need a large stack of old reels, because using a brand new one would be suspicious. Smuggle the old film out. Nobody can see you do this, so you'll have to choose a time when the microfilm reader room is empty. No, they can't be checked out.

You can't miss a library, just in case.

I have a collection of 35mm microfilm reels, of periodicals from the mid-19th century, which I am scanning and uploading. While most of the historical societies, like American Jewish Archives and American Jewish Historical Society, also have this collection, my collection is on the Internet (well, part of it) and theirs isn't.

If someone wanted to hack a page of "The Occident" they would start at my website, then sneak into those other historical society archives, but I still have my 35mm collection. And the hard copies! Which I have given to certain parties in case of my mysterious demise...

94 Kragar  Thu, May 17, 2012 2:18:35pm

Robert Marshall: ‘Sodomy not a civil right’

Pressed by CNN’s Brooke Baldwin on how he couldn’t give a gay man a chance to be a judge in an age when black people are not forced to sit in the back of the bus and women can vote, Marshall shot back, “Sodomy is not a civil right.”

“Dr. Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks never took an oath of office they broke,” he said. “Sodomy is not a civil right, and there’s an effort by homosexual lobbyists to equate the two. That’s wrong. It is a pattern of behavior.”

He added, “When I was in public school … we all said, ‘Keep us from temptation.’ This was because we said the Lord’s Prayer. Nobody, nobody — should go where they’ll be tempted. That includes me, that includes you, that includes you, that includes a prospective judge.”

Asked whether there will ever be a gay judge in Virginia, Marshall responded, “We probably have appointed homosexuals in the past,” but clarified that he hasn’t had to “face” a openly gay judge in his state in 21 years.

Not a civil right? YOU ARE WRONG SIR!
LAWRENCE V. TEXAS

Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003),[1] is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court. In the 6-3 ruling, the Court struck down the sodomy law in Texas and, by extension, invalidated sodomy laws in thirteen other states, making same-sex sexual activity legal in every U.S. state and territory. The court overturned its previous ruling on the same issue in the 1986 case Bowers v. Hardwick, where it upheld a challenged Georgia statute and did not find a constitutional protection of sexual privacy.

Lawrence explicitly overruled Bowers, holding that it had viewed the liberty interest too narrowly. The majority held that intimate consensual sexual conduct was part of the liberty protected by substantive due process under the Fourteenth Amendment. Lawrence invalidated similar laws throughout the United States that criminalized sodomy between consenting adults acting in private, whatever the sex of the participants

95 wrenchwench  Thu, May 17, 2012 2:31:51pm

re: #91 SidewaysQuark

I agree with that 100%. I think, though, that we should also appreciate that we are in our infancy, history-wise, in our exercise of rational thought as a governing paradigm. Civilization is 20,000 years old (give or take), humanity is much older than that - the Enlightenment occurred within the last mere 300 years. To put it crassly, the birth of the beautiful baby of logic hasn't even yet been followed by its afterbirth.

Next up, breast feeding and potty training!

96 SidewaysQuark  Thu, May 17, 2012 6:01:16pm

re: #95 wrenchwench

Next up, breast feeding and potty training!

Hahaha, I don't think society is ready for that yet lol

97 Patricia Kayden  Fri, May 18, 2012 6:05:13am

How nice that in the minds of Righties, the first Black President is just not American. Period.

But don't you dare call them racists!

98 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, May 18, 2012 6:45:01am

Birther logic at play:

Obama makes a slip, says there are 57 states. RW cascade of ridicule follows.

Obscure admin asst makes a slip, says Obama was born in Kenya. RW cascade of credulity follows.

And WTF is going on with "vetting?" The man has been in office for almost 4 years, and served in the Senate before that. No one in RW squawked about Palin being vetted for all of 90 seconds, but Obama has to be vetted (while in office) for 4+ years?

It's all a smokescreen thrown up by tiny, bigoted minds.

99 RabbitRunner  Sat, May 19, 2012 1:52:00pm

Well there are three conclusions one may reach based on the evidence.
1) it was a simple mistake on the part of the publishers of this circular
2) Obama wanted to spice up his interest by claiming to be a Kenyan
3) He really was born in Kenya
If we exclude 3, then it was wrong info. If it was intentional, at worst that proves that 21 years ago he fudged his bio. At worst it could be a "he lied" sort of attack by Romney.

But since this sort of crap brings out just the kind of losers Romney wants to avoid, but really needs too. My guess is that mainstream cons, what is left of them, and even FOX will drop this in a few days after Hannity gets through with a few retarded "I'm outraged" moments. But the bloggers and talk radio people will kick this can all the way down the road.


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