Friday Night Jam: Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros - Man on Fire
I want the whole damn world to come and dance with me
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Charles Johnson Fri, Jun 1, 2012 6:28:34pm |
This is a great little music video. Made me smile.
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 6:39:07pm |
re: #4 reine.de.tout
Had to watch it twice. Loved it.
I watched it twice too.
Once while standing on my head.
Boy, is my back sore now.
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Digital Display Fri, Jun 1, 2012 6:55:22pm |
re: #4 reine.de.tout
Had to watch it twice. Loved it.
Hi you! Read your post down stairs.. Let me make this public..
You have been and always have been one of my most favorite people on the whole fucking Internet..You are the best Reine..Thanks!
/So I picked up little Winston from Auntie today.. He had a wonderful summer break being effen spoiled.. We head back to Oklahoma in the morning.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 6:59:41pm |
re: #6 HoosierHoops
Hi you! Read your post down stairs.. Let me make this public..
You have been and always have been one of my most favorite people on the whole fucking Internet..You are the best Reine..Thanks!
/So I picked up little Winston from Auntie today.. He had a wonderful summer break being effen spoiled.. We head back to Oklahoma in the morning.
Hey!
You are so sweet.
I had no clue when I retired, that I would get to be so damned busy - I seriously have no idea when I ever had time to go to work. But I'm lovin' it.
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:01:32pm |
re: #6 HoosierHoops
Hi you! Read your post down stairs.. Let me make this public..
You have been and always have been one of my most favorite people on the whole fucking Internet..You are the best Reine..Thanks!
/So I picked up little Winston from Auntie today.. He had a wonderful summer break being effen spoiled.. We head back to Oklahoma in the morning.
Hoops, I agree with you about reine, but you're pretty cool too.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:03:10pm |
College regionals - Kent State & KY are in their 20th inning.
TWENTIETH INNING.
And I believe they have another game to play today.
Not sure how the pitchers are gonna do it.
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:03:48pm |
re: #9 reine.de.tout
College regionals - Kent State & KY are in their 20th inning.
TWENTIETH INNING.And I believe they have another game to play today.
Not sure how the pitchers are gonna do it.
They should just flip a coin.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:04:50pm |
re: #10 b_sharp
They should just flip a coin.
Seriously.
Baseball - 10 minutes of action packed into 3 hours of play.
Or in the case of Kent State/KY - - 6 hours.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:05:24pm |
re: #8 b_sharp
Hoops, I agree with you about reine, but you're pretty cool too.
He is, and so are you. Plenty of cool people here.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:05:49pm |
GROUP HUG!
Let's all sing Kumbaya. Or something.
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:06:09pm |
re: #11 reine.de.tout
Seriously.
Baseball - 10 minutes of action packed into 3 hours of play.
Or in the case of Kent State/KY - - 6 hours.
I loved playing baseball when I was a kid, probably because I was the pitcher. I find it boring to watch now, I much prefer football.
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PhillyPretzel Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:06:37pm |
re: #13 reine.de.tout
It is good to see you in the room again.
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:06:48pm |
re: #13 reine.de.tout
GROUP HUG!
Let's all sing Kumbaya. Or something.
Sorry, I don't know the words.
How about Stairway to Heaven?
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Digital Display Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:07:46pm |
re: #7 reine.de.tout
Hey!
You are so sweet.I had no clue when I retired, that I would get to be so damned busy - I seriously have no idea when I ever had time to go to work. But I'm lovin' it.
Kind regards..
So I guess I'm going to retire also..My Father's estate gave me the Lake house, Boat and cash from insurance. I'll send you pics of the place.
I'm going to need a new job..Something I really will enjoy and fulfill my life..
I have no effen clue..I'm so excited to walk into the unknown
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:08:01pm |
re: #15 PhillyPretzel
It is good to see you in the room again.
thanks!
re: #14 b_sharp
I loved playing baseball when I was a kid, probably because I was the pitcher. I find it boring to watch now, I much prefer football.
Baseball is a good game for kids - there are organized teams of course, but growing up in our neighborhood - all we needed was a bat and a ball and enough people to cover the bases, and we had a game. No expensive anything else needed.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:09:03pm |
re: #11 reine.de.tout
Seriously.
Baseball - 10 minutes of action packed into 3 hours of play.
Or in the case of Kent State/KY - - 6 hours.
I think we Gators are seeded número uno. Yeah!
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:10:48pm |
I really think the lizards should have a get together to meet each other in the flesh, cook some fantastic food, drink some new whatever, and have a great time shooting the shit.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:11:17pm |
re: #17 HoosierHoops
Kind regards..
So I guess I'm going to retire also..My Father's estate gave me the Lake house, Boat and cash from insurance. I'll send you pics of the place.
I'm going to need a new job..Something I really will enjoy and fulfill my life..
I have no effen clue..I'm so excited to walk into the unknown
Find something you LIKE to do, then learn to do it if you don't already know how to do it.
I am so enjoying doing the stained glass, I can't tell you. For 20 years I had in the back of my head that this was something I could learn to do and do fairly well. But it's very time-consuming, so I retired, daughter went off to college, et voila! I finally had the time. My sis-in-law and I are also taking a textured metal jewelry class starting next week, so there's another thing that will be fun (and creative).
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PhillyPretzel Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:11:44pm |
re: #20 b_sharp
That would be nice but I do not know how possible it is.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:13:10pm |
re: #22 PhillyPretzel
That would be nice but I do not know how possible it is.
San Diego is the best place to visit. Hint himt
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:13:27pm |
re: #18 reine.de.tout
thanks!
re: #14 b_sharp
Baseball is a good game for kids - there are organized teams of course, but growing up in our neighborhood - all we needed was a bat and a ball and enough people to cover the bases, and we had a game. No expensive anything else needed.
Before I started Little League, I had this crappy old plastic glove that had no padding at all, and no support. Before I hit 9 years old, I probably sprained my left thumb half a dozen times using that old thing.
I still have the Cooper leather glove my grandmother bought for me when I turned 9. It worked great.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:13:58pm |
re: #20 b_sharp
I really think the lizards should have a get together to meet each other in the flesh, cook some fantastic food, drink some new whatever, and have a great time shooting the shit.
That could be interesting - but methinks you would need to choose the group carefully. You wouldn't want a person getting pissed off about something and going off the deep end and ending up harassing and/or revealing personal info. This, I know about.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:14:30pm |
I have no pencil. Forgive this damn you auto correct moment
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:15:00pm |
re: #23 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012
San Diego is the best place to visit. Hint himt
How about the Black Hills?
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:15:04pm |
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:15:32pm |
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:16:25pm |
re: #27 b_sharp
How about the Black Hills?
But we'd need vans, cause I'm sure the easiest airport is not close?
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:17:39pm |
re: #26 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012
I have no pencil. Forgive this damn you auto correct moment
See, that's the sort of thing that happens to me when I try to use Siri to type out a text. Weirdest stuff. I don't think Siri understands Southern. I asked it once to find a "jewelry store near me", and it gave me an auto repair shop in a town 60 miles away. I could never get it to find a jewelry store near me. argh.
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:17:41pm |
re: #25 reine.de.tout
That could be interesting - but methinks you would need to choose the group carefully. You wouldn't want a person getting pissed off about something and going off the deep end and ending up harassing and/or revealing personal info. This, I know about.
I think meeting face to face would be different than on the web, all of the normal social structures and safeguards would be at play. I do get your meaning though.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:19:13pm |
[Link: www.esquire.com...]
Evening people, thinking about trying my hand at this. 79 words exactly to commemorate their 79th anniversary. Writing less is always more difficult than writing more in my experience.
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:19:17pm |
re: #31 reine.de.tout
See, that's the sort of thing that happens to me when I try to use Siri to type out a text. Weirdest stuff. I don't think Siri understands Southern. I asked it once to find a "jewelry store near me", and it gave me an auto repair shop in a town 60 miles away. I could never get it to find a jewelry store near me. argh.
I'm sorry, but I just had to LOL at the image of Siri trying to understand a southern accent.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:20:11pm |
re: #32 b_sharp
I think meeting face to face would be different than on the web, all of the normal social structures and safeguards would be at play. I do get your meaning though.
Throw down in the hills!
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:20:20pm |
re: #34 b_sharp
I'm sorry, but I just had to LOL at the image of Siri trying to understand a southern accent.
pfft. I was LOLing too. Stuff about Huns and really weird shit.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:21:26pm |
The crack up is the auto correct geniuses were 20 year old pervs at apple.
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PhillyPretzel Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:21:58pm |
Got to go. Good to see you Reine. Good Night to my fellow Lizards.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:22:39pm |
If you like damnyouautocorrect. Lamebook is pretty funny for funny stuff people put on facebook. There's another site that is wholly dedicated to people on facebook and elsewhere falling for Onion stories.
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:23:26pm |
re: #30 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012
But we'd need vans, cause I'm sure the easiest airport is not close?
Renting a van should be no problem and there are several cities with airports.
I'm not sure how close, but it's a major tourist destination so I expect there is lots of ways in and out.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:27:31pm |
re: #17 HoosierHoops
Kind regards..
So I guess I'm going to retire also..My Father's estate gave me the Lake house, Boat and cash from insurance. I'll send you pics of the place.
I'm going to need a new job..Something I really will enjoy and fulfill my life..
I have no effen clue..I'm so excited to walk into the unknown
Fishing?
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Eventual Carrion Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:32:54pm |
Something made me think of this unfortunate business name that just didn't transfer well to the internet URL syntax convention.
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Digital Display Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:33:12pm |
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:34:48pm |
re: #42 Dancing along the light of day
Fishing?
Dancing naked in the moonlight while reciting Poe's "Never Bet the Devil Your Head".
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Digital Display Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:39:36pm |
re: #45 b_sharp
Dancing naked in the moonlight while reciting Poe's "Never Bet the Devil Your Head".
Welcome to Wal-Mart..Would you like a cart?
/
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:42:29pm |
re: #46 HoosierHoops
Welcome to Wal-Mart..Would you like a cart?
/
The Attack of the Wal-Martians.
Every time I hear the name WalMart, I get images of 'the people of WalMart' I've seen on the web.
I think I've actually seen a few at our local store.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:48:36pm |
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:49:16pm |
re: #47 b_sharp
The Attack of the Wal-Martians.
Every time I hear the name WalMart, I get images of 'the people of WalMart' I've seen on the web.
I think I've actually seen a few at our local store.
I have seen some of these at my local WalMarks. My daughter, however, won't let me take pictures.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:51:18pm |
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Mocking Jay Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:53:27pm |
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:56:13pm |
re: #53 b_sharp
Thought you could sneak in and out real quick did you?
Dang, caught me!
(Sorry, I got diverted by penisland.)
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:57:39pm |
I see me and Reine are the Queens of Twittergulag. And I forgot the whips and chains. Mwwwhhhaaaaa...
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:57:41pm |
re: #54 What, me worry?
Dang, caught me!
(Sorry, I got diverted by penisland.)
You're forgiven. However, I'm not sure penisland is on the up-n-up.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:57:43pm |
re: #41 b_sharp
I wonder how much interest there is here for a get together?
Apparently if I recall correctly they tried before. Didn't happen.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 7:58:25pm |
re: #56 b_sharp
You're forgiven. However, I'm not sure penisland is on the up-n-up.
I sincerely hope not.
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:00:23pm |
re: #57 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012
Apparently if I recall correctly they tried before. Didn't happen.
Several of the blogs/forums/newsgroups I've been a member of have had, and some still have, get-togethers. Being in a totally different country I've never been able to attend.
I feel all left out.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:02:18pm |
re: #59 b_sharp
Several of the blogs/forums/newsgroups I've been a member of have had, and some still have, get-togethers. Being in a totally different country I've never been able to attend.
I feel all left out.
I'm in a different country, too. Florida :>
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:03:22pm |
re: #60 What, me worry?
I'm in a different country, too. Florida :>
Yah, I've heard of some weird stuff going on there. What gives?
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:03:44pm |
re: #61 b_sharp
Yah, I've heard of some weird stuff going on there. What gives?
We started the Zombie Apocalypse. I've always suspected Rick Scott was of the Undead.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:04:25pm |
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Mocking Jay Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:04:40pm |
re: #62 What, me worry?
We started the Zombie Apocalypse. I've always suspected Rick Scott was of the Undead.
It's like he heard people calling him "Governor Skeletor" and his response was "challenge accepted."
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:05:14pm |
re: #62 What, me worry?
We started the Zombie Apocalypse. I've always suspected Rick Scott was of the Undead.
Wasn't Jeb Bush there a while back? The Bushes don't seem to be so nutty.
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Digital Display Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:06:46pm |
re: #60 What, me worry?
I'm in a different country, too. Florida :>
Winston and I head to Oklahoma in the morning..That is a crazy state...In some ways it is so cool living there and other times you just shake your head.
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:07:33pm |
I watched a bit where George W Bush was getting his picture hung, I believe in the White House. Am I seeing things, or do GWB and Obama really get along?
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:08:12pm |
re: #66 HoosierHoops
Winston and I head to Oklahoma in the morning..That is a crazy state...In some ways it is so cool living there and other times you just shake your head.
Is that anywhere near Kansas?
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:08:53pm |
re: #59 b_sharp
Several of the blogs/forums/newsgroups I've been a member of have had, and some still have, get-togethers. Being in a totally different country I've never been able to attend.
I feel all left out.
I took a cruise to Alaska & met the most wonderful people from the mudflats. (blog). Excellent time. Then, ending so freaking sadly, the Mudflats blog put a shout out for any one in San Diego to visit this awesome contributor to the blog who was in the VA hospital. Moi. He died. They saved his cats all the way from AZ to I think North Dakota. Really, a blog is a wonderful community. If it goes that far.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:08:58pm |
Kind of intersecting to hear what real music sounds like after all these years
The Raconteurs - Level
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:09:51pm |
re: #67 b_sharp
I watched a bit where George W Bush was getting his picture hung, I believe in the White House. Am I seeing things, or do GWB and Obama really get along?
I dunno. Bush seems to respect him though. More than you can say about McCain or Romney.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:09:56pm |
re: #65 b_sharp
Wasn't Jeb Bush there a while back? The Bushes don't seem to be so nutty.
Nutty? No, just miserable for the state. I'm not a Jeb fan.
Did you hear Gov Scott's latest with the King of Spain?
[Link: blogs.miaminewtimes.com...]
Florida Gov. Rick Scott is taking his political follies to the international level.
King Juan Carlos I is feeling the fallout of one of the biggest controversies of his life for going on an elephant hunting trip in Botswana. It's a touchy subject in the country right now. Scott is on a trade mission to Spain this week and met with the King, and all the guv wanted to talk about was this hunting trip to Botswana. The king was not amused, and now the exchange has become a source of political comedy in Spain.
...
Now the scandal is the absolute last thing the king wants to talk about. However, Rick Scott apparently heard about the story but not the controversy."I've ridden elephants. I've never tried to shoot one," was literally the first words out of Scott's mouth as he entered the room to meet the king.
It goes on from there.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:10:00pm |
re: #55 What, me worry?
I see me and Reine are the Queens of Twittergulag. And I forgot the whips and chains. Mwwwhhhaaa...
Queens of the Vast Twitter-Gulag Conspiracy, no less!
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:11:18pm |
re: #66 HoosierHoops
Winston and I head to Oklahoma in the morning..That is a crazy state...In some ways it is so cool living there and other times you just shake your head.
Never been through OK, but it's always good to have a change of scenery.
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:12:14pm |
re: #69 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012
I took a cruise to Alaska & met the most wonderful people from the mudflats. (blog). Excellent time. Then, ending so freaking sadly, the Mudflats blog put a shout out for any one in San Diego to visit this awesome contributor to the blog who was in the VA hospital. Moi. He died. They saved his cats all the way from AZ to I think North Dakota. Really, a blog is a wonderful community. If it goes that far.
That is a sad but uplifting story. Sometimes online communities can be more real than meat-space.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:13:40pm |
re: #69 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012
I took a cruise to Alaska & met the most wonderful people from the mudflats. (blog). Excellent time. Then, ending so freaking sadly, the Mudflats blog put a shout out for any one in San Diego to visit this awesome contributor to the blog who was in the VA hospital. Moi. He died. They saved his cats all the way from AZ to I think North Dakota. Really, a blog is a wonderful community. If it goes that far.
That is a sad story... You met the Mudflats folks? I'm not surprised they would help like that. They really made the map during the 2008 campaign. Love em!
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:13:46pm |
re: #72 What, me worry?
Nutty? No, just miserable for the state. I'm not a Jeb fan.
Did you hear Gov Scott's latest with the King of Spain?
[Link: blogs.miaminewtimes.com...]It goes on from there.
Sounds like he suffers from terminal foot-in-mouth disease.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:14:44pm |
re: #73 reine.de.tout
Queens of the Vast Twitter-Gulag Conspiracy, no less!
All without tweeting! Amazing!
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:14:50pm |
re: #72 What, me worry?
Nutty? No, just miserable for the state. I'm not a Jeb fan.
Did you hear Gov Scott's latest with the King of Spain?
[Link: blogs.miaminewtimes.com...]It goes on from there.
I feel bad that you guys elected him. Not that Bob McDonnell is any good but Scott strikes me as a huge bully with what I've been reading about him.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:16:10pm |
re: #78 What, me worry?
All without tweeting! Amazing!
No kidding!
And, we will DENY IT.
But we will be lying.
And also, not tweeting.
But hey, why let mere facts get in the way of a good narrative?
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b_sharp Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:16:32pm |
Well there my friends, I think I'm going to make my bed on the floor and get some sleep. I fell off a ladder today and I'm a little sore in places.
Goodnight.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:17:04pm |
re: #81 b_sharp
Well there my friends, I think I'm going to make my bed on the floor and get some sleep. I fell off a ladder today and I'm a little sore in places.
Goodnight.
Dude, this is so not your week...
Rest well.
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Digital Display Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:17:09pm |
re: #68 b_sharp
Is that anywhere near Kansas?
LOL Yup.
I'll tell you what is cool.. I live off Campus at OU. It's summer time..40,000 freaking college kids are back home..Christmas and Spring break are also celebrated moments in Norman...Bye Bye kiddies for a couple of glorious months in College town.
I will admit my days at WalMart will be empty and wanting till all the girls get back...Our Walmart next to the campus rocks.. Whoops..Did I just say that?
/
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:17:28pm |
re: #81 b_sharp
Well there my friends, I think I'm going to make my bed on the floor and get some sleep. I fell off a ladder today and I'm a little sore in places.
Goodnight.
g'night, b-sharp!
I think I'm going to check on "my" eagle nest, and do the same, except not on the floor.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:18:53pm |
re: #79 HappyWarrior
I feel bad that you guys elected him. Not that Bob McDonnell is any good but Scott strikes me as a huge bully with what I've been reading about him.
Rick Scott, as CEO of Columbia Healthcare, presided over the biggest Medicare fraud case in U.S. history and ended with the hospital giant paying a record $1.7 billion in fines, penalties and damages. He should be in jail.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:19:52pm |
re: #72 What, me worry?
Nutty? No, just miserable for the state. I'm not a Jeb fan.
Did you hear Gov Scott's latest with the King of Spain?
[Link: blogs.miaminewtimes.com...]It goes on from there.
Yokels get elected and away we go
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:20:06pm |
re: #81 b_sharp
Well there my friends, I think I'm going to make my bed on the floor and get some sleep. I fell off a ladder today and I'm a little sore in places.
Goodnight.
Yikes! Treat yourself well, dear. Good to see you!
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:20:32pm |
re: #85 What, me worry?
Rick Scott, as CEO of Columbia Healthcare, presided over the biggest Medicare fraud case in U.S. history and ended with the hospital giant paying a record $1.7 billion in fines, penalties and damages. He should be in jail.
Yeah I heard about that. Amazed he got elected in the first place.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:25:37pm |
re: #75 b_sharp
That is a sad but uplifting story. Sometimes online communities can be more real than meat-space.
Sorry for the downer, but really an online community can be just that.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:26:07pm |
re: #88 HappyWarrior
Yeah I heard about that. Amazed he got elected in the first place.
Don't look at me!
These Republican millionaires play to the Tea Party's meme of "less government" and the idea of electing "non-politician types", as if they could ever be considered every-day-guys. "Businessmen know how to run a business! And the government is business!" Yeah, right. They want less government, alright. Less regulation, less taxes for the wealthy.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:28:05pm |
re: #88 HappyWarrior
Yeah I heard about that. Amazed he got elected in the first place.
It was the Teabagger wave. A whole lot of terrible assholes got sweep in with that tide. I truly believe this will be a most shameful period in our modern history. The damage these people are doing will take a generation.
Oh, and Rick Scott is not Skeletor. He's Lord Voldemort.
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Lidane Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:29:39pm |
Ugh. I don't know what the hell is wrong, but today has been a sick day of epic proportions. All day I've felt like one of those Aliens was going to burst through my sternum and I can't keep anything down.
G'night Lizards. I'm going to try and get some rest.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:30:57pm |
re: #91 moderatelyradicalliberal
It was the Teabagger wave. A whole lot of terrible assholes got sweep in with that tide. I truly believe this will be a most shameful period in our modern history. The damage these people are doing will take a generation.
Oh, and Rick Scott is not Skeletor. He's Lord Voldemort.
LOL Now that's precious!
The damage can be undone. We just have to get the right person in there. I have no idea who the Dems will be running next Gov election in Florida. Maybe Alex Sink could beat him this time. She's awesome.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:33:17pm |
And speaking of terrible Teabagger governors, how hilarious will it be if Scott Walker wins the recall only to be indited?
Image: Screen%20Shot%202012-06-01%20at%209.23.47%20PM.png
He's already transferred 160K in campaign funds to his legal defense fund because 13 of his old associates have been given immunity and they are singing like birds. I wonder if the same stupid wingnuts who donated to George Zimmerman donated to Walker.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:33:30pm |
re: #13 reine.de.tout
GROUP HUG!
Let's all sing Kumbaya. Or something.
A toast to you and all the good people here at LGF!
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moderatelyradicalliberal Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:35:42pm |
re: #93 What, me worry?
LOL Now that's precious!
The damage can be undone. We just have to get the right person in there. I have no idea who the Dems will be running next Gov election in Florida. Maybe Alex Sink could beat him this time. She's awesome.
She was I hope she runs again. I have friends and family in Florida and I went to collage there. It's a weird state. I need to call them and ask if they have been purged from voting by Lord Voldemort yet.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:38:54pm |
re: #91 moderatelyradicalliberal
It was the Teabagger wave. A whole lot of terrible assholes got sweep in with that tide. I truly believe this will be a most shameful period in our modern history. The damage these people are doing will take a generation.
Oh, and Rick Scott is not Skeletor. He's Lord Voldemort.
Yeah I feel ya there. We nearly lost the congressman in the district where I went to college because of that moronic wave.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:40:10pm |
re: #94 moderatelyradicalliberal
And speaking of terrible Teabagger governors, how hilarious will it be if Scott Walker wins the recall only to be indited?
Image: Screen%20Shot%202012-06-01%20at%209.23.47%20PM.png
He's already transferred 160K in campaign funds to his legal defense fund because 13 of his old associates have been given immunity and they are singing like birds. I wonder if the same stupid wingnuts who donated to George Zimmerman donated to Walker.
I think the [tea] party's over. I'd like to think so anyway.
My dad used to sing this to me whenever I had grave disappointment.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:40:49pm |
re: #78 What, me worry?
All without tweeting! Amazing!
That just 'proves' your eeevvill powers. After all, it can't be that many Stalkers got punted from Twitter because they were acting like assholes. No indee-dee! They must have lost their accounts due to diabolical left-wing manipulation..
/Must I?
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:40:53pm |
I really really hope Obama can beat Romney.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:41:01pm |
re: #93 What, me worry?
LOL Now that's precious!
The damage can be undone. We just have to get the right person in there. I have no idea who the Dems will be running next Gov election in Florida. Maybe Alex Sink could beat him this time. She's awesome.
The question isn't can it be undone, it's will anybody be given time to do it. We got the Teabagger wave because Americans decided that Obama hadn't fixed everything in less than two years even though the GOP had 8 years to wreck shop. This seems to be a pattern in this country. The GOP gets a lot of time to fuck things up, Democrats are elected to fix it in one election cycle and when they don't the GOP gets put back into power to cause more damage. Wash, rinse repeat. Every Democrat should say: Look this shit is all fucked up and I'm gonna need two terms to fix it and you better not send a bunch of crazy Republicans up in here to trip me up while I'm fixing all this shit.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:42:22pm |
re: #96 moderatelyradicalliberal
She was I hope she runs again. I have friends and family in Florida and I went to collage there. It's a weird state. I need to call them and ask if they have been purged from voting by Lord Voldemort yet.
I...can't...even...go...there. It makes my blood boil.
Folks need to be sure they're registered and where they go well in advance.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:42:31pm |
The electorate is really impatient as hell. They say they want better schools, roads, etc and then they bellyache when the reality comes in that these things in fact cost money.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:43:05pm |
re: #94 moderatelyradicalliberal
And speaking of terrible Teabagger governors, how hilarious will it be if Scott Walker wins the recall only to be indited?
Image: Screen%20Shot%202012-06-01%20at%209.23.47%20PM.png
He's already transferred 160K in campaign funds to his legal defense fund because 13 of his old associates have been given immunity and they are singing like birds. I wonder if the same stupid wingnuts who donated to George Zimmerman donated to Walker.
There's been a number of those anonymous stories. The news networks are ignoring them, though, as they are long on speculation and short on facts.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:48:05pm |
re: #100 HappyWarrior
I really really hope Obama can beat Romney.
He can beat Romney. Romney is a figurehead and the least of his problems. If Romney wins he won't be running the show. He has to beat the right wing billionaire funded superPACs, the right wing noise machine, the MSM, DLC corporate Blue Dog Democrats and the firebagger emoprog brigade. He's out there by himself it seems. If anybody can beat all of that back it's him, but I would have pulled a Palin told everybody to go fuck themselves and went home by now.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:50:50pm |
re: #105 moderatelyradicalliberal
He can beat Romney. Romney is a figurehead and the least of his problems. If Romney wins he won't be running the show. He has to beat the right wing billionaire funded superPACs, the right wing noise machine, the MSM, DLC corporate Blue Dog Democrats and the firebagger emoprog brigade. He's out there by himself it seems. If anybody can beat all of that back it's him, but I would have pulled a Palin told everybody to go fuck themselves and went home by now.
He's got a tough road ahead. Romney's really starting to piss me off with his smarmy condescension towards government. As if the corporate world is without flaws and the government only has flaws. I hate that mindset.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:50:59pm |
re: #104 Dark_Falcon
There's been a number of those anonymous stories. The news networks are ignoring them, though, as they are long on speculation and short on facts.
I don't doubt it. I hear the media in Wisconsin as very differential to Walker. Plus IOKIYAR. I've grown accustomed to the hesitation on the part of the MSM to go after Republicans on anything until they have to. The lead up to the Iraq war taught me that.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:52:47pm |
re: #105 moderatelyradicalliberal
He can beat Romney. Romney is a figurehead and the least of his problems. If Romney wins he won't be running the show. He has to beat the right wing billionaire funded superPACs, the right wing noise machine, the MSM, DLC corporate Blue Dog Democrats and the firebagger emoprog brigade. He's out there by himself it seems. If anybody can beat all of that back it's him, but I would have pulled a Palin told everybody to go fuck themselves and went home by now.
Obama's got the money to stay in. Sarah Palin was basically busted out of her office by the sheer expense of defending herself from an avalanche of citizen ethics complaints (the great majority generated by one woman who despised her). Sarah Palin's gubernatorial administration suffered the death of a thousand cuts.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:52:51pm |
re: #101 moderatelyradicalliberal
The question isn't can it be undone, it's will anybody be given time to do it. We got the Teabagger wave because Americans decided that Obama hadn't fixed everything in less than two years even though the GOP had 8 years to wreck shop. This seems to be a pattern in this country. The GOP gets a lot of time to fuck things up, Democrats are elected to fix it in one election cycle and when they don't the GOP gets put back into power to cause more damage. Wash, rinse repeat. Every Democrat should say: Look this shit is all fucked up and I'm gonna need two terms to fix it and you better not send a bunch of crazy Republicans up in here to trip me up while I'm fixing all this shit.
Well, the larger problem with Florida is we have a Republican legislature that blocks a lot of education legislation and programs aimed at benefiting children, healthcare and the poor. Our child welfare system is in a terrible shambles still. We also could use some better Democrats. All of them, every last one, voted for "Stand Your Ground" and I don't get that.
We have Debbie W-S and Bill Nelson still. If he loses his seat, I'll be really shocked.
Scott closed many prisons to "increase the education budget by $1 billion." The closed prisons amounted to increased job losses in an already stressed out economy, plus overcrowding of the remaining prisons.
And here's how the education budget went.
Scott’s shell game education budget
[Link: www.miamiherald.com...]
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moderatelyradicalliberal Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:52:51pm |
re: #106 HappyWarrior
He's got a tough road ahead. Romney's really starting to piss me off with his smarmy condescension towards government. As if the corporate world is without flaws and the government only has flaws. I hate that mindset.
Romney is an asshole and he can't hide, but a lot of powerful forces will be hard at work polishing up that turd.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:53:19pm |
re: #103 HappyWarrior
The electorate is really impatient as hell. They say they want better schools, roads, etc and then they bellyache when the reality comes in that these things in fact cost money.
They bellyache because it's "somebody else's" problem. The poor think the middle class should pay for it, while the middle class think the rich should pay for it. And the rich think it's a waste of money if it doesn't directly benefit them.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:55:28pm |
re: #109 What, me worry?
Well, the larger problem with Florida is we have a Republican legislature that blocks a lot of education legislation and programs aimed at benefiting children, healthcare and the poor. Our child welfare system is in a terrible shambles still. We also could use some better Democrats. All of them, every last one, voted for "Stand Your Ground" and I don't get that.
We have Debbie W-S and Bill Nelson still. If he loses his seat, I'll be really shocked.
Scott closed many prisons to "increase the education budget by $1 billion." The closed prisons amounted to increased job losses in an already stressed out economy, plus overcrowding of the remaining prisons.
And here's how the education budget went.
Scott’s shell game education budget
[Link: www.miamiherald.com...]
Rick Scott is a crook. He was a crook before he became governor and he's continued to behave as a crook as governor. In a just world he'd be in jail for Medicare fraud, but the world is not just and people are stupid.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:55:59pm |
re: #111 Targetpractice
They bellyache because it's "somebody else's" problem. The poor think the middle class should pay for it, while the middle class think the rich should pay for it. And the rich think it's a waste of money if it doesn't directly benefit them.
Ain't that the truth.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:56:04pm |
re: #107 moderatelyradicalliberal
I don't doubt it. I hear the media in Wisconsin as very differential to Walker. Plus IOKIYAR. I've grown accustomed to the hesitation on the part of the MSM to go after Republicans on anything until they have to. The lead up to the Iraq war taught me that.
It's not mostly that, instead it has to do with the reputation of news agencies. In order for them to accept the risk such a story might be wrong, they either need a source that will go on the record or documentary evidence targeting Walker. Absent those things, running with it is not worth the risk of being wrong.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:57:46pm |
re: #110 moderatelyradicalliberal
Romney is an asshole and he can't hide, but a lot of powerful forces will be hard at work polishing up that turd.
Yep. Anyhow, I've been finding out since I've started applying to federal jobs what Obama has done for people with disabilities. That makes me like him more than I did before. Can't see Romney doing anything like that. Probably is far from his and his advisers' minds. The only thing they seem to really care about is protecting big business's interests.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Fri, Jun 1, 2012 8:59:05pm |
re: #111 Targetpractice
They bellyache because it's "somebody else's" problem. The poor think the middle class should pay for it, while the middle class think the rich should pay for it. And the rich think it's a waste of money if it doesn't directly benefit them.
I would just like for there to be some basic things that all Americans get: A decent public education, universal health care and public safety and universal civil rights. After that everybody can be on their own and your life can be what you make it. The only reason we don't have those things is tribalism and I'm sick of it.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:00:39pm |
re: #110 moderatelyradicalliberal
Romney is an asshole and he can't hide, but a lot of powerful forces will be hard at work polishing up that turd.
They don't have to get too much gloss on that shine if they cover Obama in enough shit to compensate. In the end, their task is not to make Romney the best choice, they just have to make him the only choice. To convince folks that another 4 years of Obama won't lead anywhere good, but would actually destroy America.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:01:55pm |
re: #114 Dark_Falcon
It's not mostly that, instead it has to do with the reputation of news agencies. In order for them to accept the risk such a story might be wrong, they either need a source that will go on the record or documentary evidence targeting Walker. Absent those things, running with it is not worth the risk of being wrong.
Yeah, because the media was worried about being wrong with all of the James O'Keefe and Lila Rose bullshit videos. The media is afraid of the right in way they are not afraid of the left. It's a testament to how well screams of liberal bias has worked. I'm not knocking it, if anything I'm jealous.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:03:52pm |
Okie kiddies, I'm fading here. Ya'll have a good weekend.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:05:31pm |
re: #119 What, me worry?
Okie kiddies, I'm fading here. Ya'll have a good weekend.
Me too. Night all!
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:05:44pm |
re: #118 moderatelyradicalliberal
Yeah, because the media was worried about being wrong with all of the James O'Keefe and Lila Rose bullshit videos. The media is afraid of the right in way they are not afraid of the left. It's a testament to how well screams of liberal bias has worked. I'm not knocking it, if anything I'm jealous.
O'Keefe and Rose are part of the reason media outlets are more cautious about running stories that are not properly sourced: They got burn by people like Rose and do not want to repeat their earlier mistake.
Sorry, but my narcolepsy is hitting too hard for me to keep going. Good night, all.
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palomino Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:06:19pm |
re: #72 What, me worry?
Aww, poor Gov. Scott...never had the chance to kill an elephant. See, this is what happens in Obama's America: the noble huntsman can no longer bag the fearsome American Elephant. This is what socialism brings us.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:06:26pm |
re: #108 Dark_Falcon
Obama's got the money to stay in. Sarah Palin was basically busted out of her office by the sheer expense of defending herself from an avalanche of citizen ethics complaints (the great majority generated by one woman who despised her). Sarah Palin's gubernatorial administration suffered the death of a thousand cuts.
Check your facts. Sister Sarah's "fees" were paid by the fricken state of Alaska. Her propaganda machine=win!!!
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Kronocide Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:10:25pm |
re: #108 Dark_Falcon
Obama's got the money to stay in. Sarah Palin was basically busted out of her office by the sheer expense of defending herself from an avalanche of citizen ethics complaints (the great majority generated by one woman who despised her). Sarah Palin's gubernatorial administration suffered the death of a thousand cuts.
Shiny Fox News Things!
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palomino Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:12:20pm |
re: #108 Dark_Falcon
Obama's got the money to stay in. Sarah Palin was basically busted out of her office by the sheer expense of defending herself from an avalanche of citizen ethics complaints (the great majority generated by one woman who despised her). Sarah Palin's gubernatorial administration suffered the death of a thousand cuts.
You are just completely full of shit sometimes. Gullible as hell too. It's as if you uncritically repeat everything you heard on Fox in 2009.
Palin wasn't "busted" out of office. She was the Gov of one of the smallest states in the US, a state with a fairly weak Dem Party. And you think they were able to hound her out of office. Absurd.
She clearly wanted a new gig...governing the world's largest ice cube isn't exactly sexy. Tell me, how many other governors have ever resigned because the other party filed lawsuits against them? And if they can't stand that amount of heat, what the hell are they doing in politics. Palin had a completely different motive for resigning. The fact that you can't see that is inexplicable.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:13:42pm |
re: #125 palomino
You are just completely full of shit sometimes. Gullible as hell too. It's as if you uncritically repeat everything you heard on Fox in 2009.
Palin wasn't "busted" out of office. She was the Gov of one of the smallest states in the US, a state with a fairly weak Dem Party. And you think they were able to hound her out of office. Absurd.
She clearly wanted a new gig...governing the world's largest ice cube isn't exactly sexy. Tell me, how many other governors have ever resigned because the other party filed lawsuits against them? And if that can't stand that amount of heat, what the hell are they doing in politics. Palin had a completely different motive for resigning. The fact that you can't see that is inexplicable.
She clearly couldn't take the heat. Quitting on the state showed a lot about her leadership or there lack of. And I think that's something that even more conservative Alaskans would agree with given that her popularity in her home state has fallen dramatically since 2008.
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Kronocide Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:19:40pm |
Poor Palin. Teh Lamestream Media hounded her out of office with lawsuits. LAW-SUITS!
She saved her great state by resigning, saving them many $'s, only to be hounded by the LAME-STREAM MEDIA!
Go Sarah! We love you! Get them lieberals!
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palomino Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:21:46pm |
re: #126 HappyWarrior
She clearly couldn't take the heat. Quitting on the state showed a lot about her leadership or there lack of. And I think that's something that even more conservative Alaskans would agree with given that her popularity in her home state has fallen dramatically since 2008.
Agreed. It strains credulity to assert that Palin, with a decade of political experience and a run at Veep, was a serious politician suddenly struck by the vapors because of the same type of (largely?) nuisance lawsuits that governors and mayors around the nation deal with all the time.
I think you're right. She just said "screw it" because she didn't want the hassle and was looking for something more exciting. And she clearly finds the limelight of bright lights and big cities to be very alluring.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:23:08pm |
Are we sure Obama will be re-elected?
Weak jobs report deepens U.S. economic concerns
A weak jobs report Friday raised questions about the vigor of the economic recovery, increasing speculation the Federal Reserve will take further steps to bolster growth and casting doubts about President Obama’s handling of the economy among voters, who consider it the No. 1 issue.
The nation’s employers added 69,000 jobs in May, the fewest in a year and well below the 150,000 economists had expected. The national unemployment rate rose to 8.2 percent from 8.1 percent. In addition, federal labor officials slashed their earlier estimate of jobs created in April to 77,000 from 115,000.
[...]
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:26:28pm |
re: #128 palomino
Agreed. It strains credulity to assert that Palin, with a decade of political experience and a run at Veep, was a serious politician suddenly struck by the vapors because of the same type of (largely?) nuisance lawsuits that governors and mayors around the nation deal with all the time.
I think you're right. She just said "screw it" because she didn't want the hassle and was looking for something more exciting. And she clearly finds the limelight of bright lights and big cities to be very alluring.
I really think so. I mean the TV show on TLC and the fact her daughter has done Dancing With the Stars shows me that after the 2008 she realized she liked being a celebrity more than elected official. Plus, it's easier to second guess Obama's decisions when you don't have to make any real ones of your own.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:27:06pm |
WTF?
"The leak really did endanger sources and methods," Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California and chair of the Intelligence Committee, told Fox News.
Okay the wingnuts are going to be on this like paint on a car. But look at who said this. I'm speechless.
[Link: security.blogs.cnn.com...]
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palomino Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:28:13pm |
re: #129 freetoken
Are we sure Obama will be re-elected?
Historically presidents with 45-50% approval ratings and 8% unemployment (or other bad economic indicators) have a hard time getting re-elected.
A majority still has a favorable impression of Obama, ie, he's still personally popular. BUT there's a good chance that many independents and moderates, especially the low info ones, will adopt the following attitude: "I don't hate Obama, but he hasn't fixed the economy, so I'll give the other guy a chance, even if he's a robot." Or something along those lines. I'd say Obama's chances at the moment are only 50-50, unfortunately.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:29:03pm |
Some numbers: There were 69,000 payroll jobs added in May, with 82,000 private sector jobs added, and 13,000 government jobs lost. The unemployment rate increased to 8.2%. The household survey showed a strong increase in employment (422,000 jobs added), but the participation rate increased too (from 63.6% to 63.8%) so that pushed up the unemployment rate. The household survey job gains - and increase in the participation rate - are small positives.
More people want to work (thus the unemployment rate goes up), public employment is down (which the wingnuts ignore), etc.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:29:06pm |
re: #129 freetoken
Are we sure Obama will be re-elected?
Not sure much of anything at this point. Other than that no president since FDR has been reelected when unemployment has been above 7.2%, and his excuse was that the country was still going through the Great Depression.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:29:58pm |
re: #132 palomino
... BUT there's a good chance that many independents and moderates, especially the low info ones, will adopt the following attitude: "I don't hate Obama, but he hasn't fixed the economy, so I'll give the other guy a chance, even if he's a robot." ...
Or they just won't show up to vote.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:30:36pm |
Obama's got a tough road ahead of him. He needs to hammer hard that Mitt's policies will not help though and that he's been obstructed. Take a page from the Truman 1948 Playbook.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:30:51pm |
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:35:54pm |
re: #137 freetoken
re: #132 palomino
Are we psyching ourselves up for the term "President Romney".
I'm just trying to keep a level head about this. Personally, I think Obama's playing all the wrong notes right now with the "lowest spending" bit. The GOP's damning him anyway, working the numbers to show that spending still "exploded" and blaming even spending he'd inherited from the last guy in office on him.
Were I him, I'd be other there telling folks that focusing on the deficit, focusing on the debt, is a mistake. That those are long-term problems, ones that will not be fixed in two terms and sure as hell not in one. That what we should focus on is things that we can affect today, like the job situation. That there are miles and miles of roads, bridges, tunnels, pipes, and so forth that are in dire need of repair and replacement, but are being left to languish in a atmosphere of worry about other spending priorities. That, in the mold of FDR, what this nation needs now is the largest renovation program in its history, to make our infrastructure the envy of the world yet again.
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palomino Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:36:14pm |
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freetoken Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:40:56pm |
re: #138 Targetpractice
... Personally, I think Obama's playing all the wrong notes right now...
I agree, but I think he's been pretty much missing the mark for a while now. I chalk it up to the Democratic Party infrastructure and the institutional intransigence of the political consulting world.
The US needs visionary leadership as well as management competence. Political consultants provide neither.
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prairiefire Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:41:36pm |
re: #139 palomino
It will be hard fought battle, by tooth and claw.
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palomino Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:42:29pm |
re: #138 Targetpractice
I'm just trying to keep a level head about this. Personally, I think Obama's playing all the wrong notes right now with the "lowest spending" bit. The GOP's damning him anyway, working the numbers to show that spending still "exploded" and blaming even spending he'd inherited from the last guy in office on him.
Were I him, I'd be other there telling folks that focusing on the deficit, focusing on the debt, is a mistake. That those are long-term problems, ones that will not be fixed in two terms and sure as hell not in one. That what we should focus on is things that we can affect today, like the job situation. That there are miles and miles of roads, bridges, tunnels, pipes, and so forth that are in dire need of repair and replacement, but are being left to languish in a atmosphere of worry about other spending priorities. That, in the mold of FDR, what this nation needs now is the largest renovation program in its history, to make our infrastructure the envy of the world yet again.
Definitely, he should have been doing what you describe for the last 3 years, but shied away from it.
Cheney was right when he said deficits don't matter (politically). As long as people have jobs and the markets don't collapse, the deficit is an inconvenient abstraction to most people. Witness most of the 80s, much of the 90s and most of Bush's two terms. The only ones concerned with debt then were a few deficit hawks in Congress and oddballs like Ron Paul.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:44:58pm |
The march continues:
Abortion, levee, tax measures whip through Louisiana Legislature
[...]
The last-minute surge came as lawmakers cleared the decks for the last hours of the session, which must end Monday by 6 p.m. Legislators will take off Saturday before coming in Sunday to continue the battle over the state's $25.6 billion budget and the use of $204.7 million from the state's rainy-day fund, debates that are expected to consume much of their remaining time in Baton Rouge.
The abortion measure, filed by Senate President John Alario, R-Westwego, would restrict abortions to the first 20 weeks of a pregnancy. Current restrictions prevent abortion after a fetus is "viable."
Senate Bill 766, which contains the restrictions, passed the House unanimously early Friday before being sent to the upper chamber so senators could give their approval to changes made in a House committee. The Senate voted 38-1 to send the bill to the governor's desk, with only Sen. Karen Carter Peterson, D-New Orleans, casting a dissenting vote.
Rep. Frank Hoffman, R-Monroe, called the measure "another significant bill in Louisiana's pro-life history" and noted that the state was ranked at the top of a list of anti-abortion states this summer. The restrictions are expected to prohibit about 150 abortions a year, he said.
[...]
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prairiefire Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:45:25pm |
Obama addressed the infrastructure issue in 2011:[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:56:20pm |
re: #141 freetoken
I agree, but I think he's been pretty much missing the mark for a while now. I chalk it up to the Democratic Party infrastructure and the institutional intransigence of the political consulting world.
The US needs visionary leadership as well as management competence. Political consultants provide neither.
We need visionary leadership, yes, but we need a leader who's not looking to his next campaign. One who's willing to call the opposition on their bullshit, rather than trying again and again to promote the spirit of "bipartisanship" in an atmosphere toxic to it.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:56:41pm |
And here you all doubted that Kardashian and evolution could be worked together into a post:
Kim Kardashian's latest fragrance reflects evolution as a woman
Kim Kardashian's latest fragrance, True Reflection, hits the shelves this month.
The new scent was created to reflect Kim Kardashian’s evolution as a woman.
It is meant to inspire confidence, evoking the wisdom and glamour that can only be attained by experiencing life to the fullest.
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Digital Display Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:57:11pm |
Sitting in a Hotel with Winston ready to depart to Oklahoma in the Morning..
Random thoughts..
I have done the unthinkable.. It's late and I ordered a pizza from Domino's..
At least I ordered a Veggie with extra pineapples...No matter what you think..It will suck..
I think Hollywood should come out with Wargames 2..The first was a classic but updated it would be a winner..Total teenage geek movie with some light weight sexual tension thrown in..
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jun 1, 2012 9:58:26pm |
re: #141 freetoken
A couple of essential planks are missing from each side. From where I sit the Dems really need to embrace a youth based buy in on medicare. Really get after separating wealth from Congressional influence.
The GOP, well that seems well discussed already, like (at a minimum) living with Roe V Wade, evolution and contraception. Maybe I ask too little. Let's add global environmental sanity.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:02:46pm |
The magical word "vast" shows up regularly when discussing this topic:
Clinton tours Arctic as big powers vie for resources
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton boards a research ship on Saturday to tour the Arctic, where big powers are vying for vast deposits of oil, gas and minerals that are becoming available as the polar ice recedes.
[...]
Week after week some news story shows up touting "vast" deposits of oil and minerals in the Arctic.
When I see such writing I chalk it up to the author's ignorance of the topic showing.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:05:46pm |
re: #150 HoosierHoops
Have a safe trip, you two!
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freetoken Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:10:19pm |
This was the most reported creationism story today, in Our Amercia America:
More Americans Continue to Accept Creationism Than Evolution
The percentage of Americans who believe God created humans in their present form within the last 10,000 years is about the same as it was 30 years ago, a new survey indicates.
Today, 46 percent of Americans accept this creationist explanation for human existence, a negligible change from the 44 percent who said they agreed with it in 1982, according to Gallup polls.
In the most recent poll, conducted by phone in May, 15 percent of Americans fell on the other end of the spectrum, saying they believed God played no part in human evolution, a process that had taken millions of years. Nearly all of the rest of the respondents, 32 percent, choose the third option, saying they believed humans had evolved, but that God had guided the process, a belief called "theistic evolution." [eds. - wrongly reported by LiveScience, btw.]
[...]
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freetoken Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:11:25pm |
Maybe I'll do a Page on it. The reporting on this subject is pretty erroneous at times, with news articles mis-interpreting the Gallup Poll.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:16:44pm |
And yes, Gallup gets right to the point:
Majority of Republicans Are Creationists
Highly religious Americans are more likely to be Republican than those who are less religious, which helps explain the relationship between partisanship and beliefs about human origins. The major distinction is between Republicans and everyone else. While 58% of Republicans believe that God created humans in their present form within the last 10,000 years, 39% of independents and 41% of Democrats agree.
I suggest that this one fact is sufficient to understand the basic differences of which we discuss here.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:20:35pm |
Morning all!
I think this Cat Overlord is trying really hard to be patient with his human.
How are you-all?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:21:39pm |
re: #154 freetoken
This was the most reported creationism story today, in Our
AmerciaAmerica:More Americans Continue to Accept Creationism Than Evolution
I think I posted the Gallup page this morning. I get it in my email --maybe it was yesterday.
Anyway, I think we are all doomed.
Perhaps it is the Gallup report the above linked Cat Overlord is trying to be patient with.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:28:27pm |
re: #158 ggt
There's the actual substance of the Gallup Poll, and then there is the reporting on it.
The latter is pretty sloppy, generally speaking. Most people don't understand the fine differences between, say, Intelligent Design and Theistic Evolution, and both Gallup and the reporting on the poll don't help.
More importantly, "statistical error" is misunderstood, and the Gallup sampling method leaves one with little insight into whether there are long term trends or not, given the sample size is too small to differentiate between trends of only 1 or 2 percent per 20 years, or simple sampling errors. or just random noise.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:28:42pm |
re: #157 ggt
Morning all!
I think this Cat Overlord is trying really hard to be patient with his human.
How are you-all?
In the last days of my staycation, looking at at least a day's worth of house cleaning before my folks return. At the same time, I find myself wishing that the position of Devil's Advocate was a paying one.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:28:51pm |
Yes, Charles, this was a video worth sharing!
Thanks.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:31:11pm |
re: #159 freetoken
There's the actual substance of the Gallup Poll, and then there is the reporting on it.
The latter is pretty sloppy, generally speaking. Most people don't understand the fine differences between, say, Intelligent Design and Theistic Evolution, and both Gallup and the reporting on the poll don't help.
More importantly, "statistical error" is misunderstood, and the Gallup sampling method leaves one with little insight into whether there are long term trends or not, given the sample size is too small to differentiate between trends of only 1 or 2 percent per 20 years, or simple sampling errors. or just random noise.
IIRC there were three questions. They were pretty strait forward.
So, I think the poll was valid --reporting --well, it's a product.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:35:08pm |
re: #162 ggt
As far as being English sentences - yes, the choices given are simple English (grammar).
But, the meanings are not at all clear.
Indeed, the questions themselves are highly, highly biased.
The value the Gallup poll has is that they've been running the same poll now for 30 years. So, even with all its flaws there is a history that can be scoured.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:35:12pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:43:44pm |
So, it's Friday Night --Where is everybody?
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Digital Display Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:46:27pm |
re: #165 ggt
So, it's Friday Night --Where is everybody?
Sitting in a hotel room watching dumb movies
hope you are well
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:47:20pm |
re: #166 HoosierHoops
Sitting in a hotel room watching dumb movies
hope you are well
I am, thanks for askin'!
Why are you sitting in a hotel room on a Friday night?
Is Winston with you?
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Digital Display Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:49:00pm |
re: #167 ggt
I am, thanks for askin'!
Why are you sitting in a hotel room on a Friday night?
Is Winston with you?
yes..He is here..We head back to Oklahoma in the morning
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:49:28pm |
re: #168 HoosierHoops
yes..He is here..We head back to Oklahoma in the morning
Well, good!
I hate being in hotel rooms alone.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 1, 2012 10:50:21pm |
re: #165 ggt
So, it's Friday Night --Where is everybody?
Listening to the thunderstorm outside. Something almost soothing about the sound of rain.
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AK-47% Fri, Jun 1, 2012 11:05:30pm |
re: #106 HappyWarrior
He's got a tough road ahead. Romney's really starting to piss me off with his smarmy condescension towards government. As if the corporate world is without flaws and the government only has flaws. I hate that mindset.
As if the corporate would could even exist in its present form without close cooperation and collusion on the part of the government. Where would the oil companies be without their annual "energy strategy meetings" in the White House? Where would agribusiness be without the USDA and FDA?
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Digital Display Fri, Jun 1, 2012 11:05:50pm |
re: #171 ggt
Awww..that was awesome thanks..Had a great vacation..Winston spent 2 weeks at Aunt Peggy's house for his summer break.. I swear this woman lives in a zoo..Dogs, cats, skunks, Birds..She has like 6 effen Parrots in her bedroom talking trash 24/7.. That's our Auntie.. Winston jumped up on the other bed when we got here and has been asleep for hours.. Poor baby is exhausted..He doesn't have a clue we have many of miles to go to get back home
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jun 1, 2012 11:06:55pm |
re: #174 HoosierHoops
Awww..that was awesome thanks..Had a great vacation..Winston spent 2 weeks at Aunt Peggy's house for his summer break.. I swear this woman lives in a zoo..Dogs, cats, skunks, Birds..She has like 6 effen Parrots in her bedroom talking trash 24/7.. That's our Auntie.. Winston jumped up on the other bed when we got here and has been asleep for hours.. Poor baby is exhausted..He doesn't have a clue we have many of miles to go to get back home
Our Dogs go back to the breeders house when we go on vacation. I think they have a better time than we do.
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Kragar Fri, Jun 1, 2012 11:09:22pm |
After playing in depth RPGs for the longest time, I have to say I'm really having a lot of fun with the mindless violence in Saints Row.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 1, 2012 11:09:46pm |
re: #176 Kragar
After playing in depth RPGs for the longest time, I have to say I'm really having a lot of fun with the mindless violence in Saints Row.
1, 2, or 3?
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 1, 2012 11:15:24pm |
re: #178 Kragar
3
Yeah, plenty of mindless violence in that. Though I have to agree with Yahtzee, the game sort of went off the rails in believability. Granted, it wasn't all that believable to begin with, but still.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jun 1, 2012 11:23:55pm |
where do they travel to?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jun 1, 2012 11:27:03pm |
OK, I"m going to bed. You are hereby spared anymore links.
Have a great one all!
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AK-47% Fri, Jun 1, 2012 11:59:44pm |
sleep well knowing your links killed the thread...
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researchok Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:28:01am |
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sagehen Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:39:29am |
re: #172 Expand Your Ground
As if the corporate would could even exist in its present form without close cooperation and collusion on the part of the government. Where would the oil companies be without their annual "energy strategy meetings" in the White House? Where would agribusiness be without the USDA and FDA?
For that matter, what would the oil companies or agribusiness profit margins be without the United States military acting as a massive taxpayer-funded subsidy?
Please to remember the derivation of the phrase "banana republic".
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EdDantes Sat, Jun 2, 2012 2:20:34am |
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EdDantes Sat, Jun 2, 2012 2:25:50am |
Here are the lyrics:
Ue o muite arukoo I look up when I walk
Namida ga kobore nai yoo ni So the tears won’t fall
Omoidasu haru no hi Remembering those happy spring days
Hitoribotchi no yoru But tonight I’m all alone
Ue o muite arukoo I look up when I walk
Nijinda hoshi o kazoete Counting the stars with tearful eyes
Omoidasu natsu no hi Remembering those happy summer days
Hitoribotchi no yoru But tonight I’m all alone
Shiawase wa kumo no ue ni Happiness lies beyond the clouds
Shiawase wa sora no ue ni Happiness lies above the sky
Ue o muite arukoo I look up when I walk
Namida ga kobore nai yoo ni So the tears won’t fall
Nakinagara aruku Though my heart is filled with sorrow
* Hitoribotchi no yoru For tonight I’m all alone
(whistling) (whistling)
Omoidasu aki no hi Remembering those happy autumn days
Hitoribotchi no yoru But tonight I’m all alone
Kanashimi wa hoshi no kage ni Sadness hides in the shadow of the stars
Kanashimi wa tsuki no kage ni Sadness lurks in the shadow of the moon
Ue o muite arukoo I look up when I walk
Namida ga kobore nai yoo ni So the tears won’t fall
Nakinagara aruku Though my heart is filled with sorrow
* Hitoribotchi no yoru For tonight I’m all alone
(whistling) (whistling)
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 3:00:44am |
re: #137 freetoken
re: #132 palomino
Are we psyching ourselves up for the term "President Romney".
Just saying it out loud might be therapeutic for some, sort of take the shock off come November. //
Personally my preference is still Obama but not because I think he deserves to win. I'm not looking forward to a one party rule scenario again.
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Obdicut Sat, Jun 2, 2012 3:15:40am |
re: #195 RogueOne
I think most people realize that Romney might get elected, with all that means-- a further destruction of the US's science standards, continued AGW denial, further widening of the income disparity, crippling our economy, appointment of judges and Supreme Court justices who will further break down barriers between church and state, sweeping restrictions against women's rights, etc. etc.
There's a lot of people in the country that actively want those things, or who stubbornly refuse to give up their Ayn Rand view of economics even with all the recent banking debacles and the failures of austerity policies. That they're wrong in the most easily demonstrable way doesn't take away their right to vote.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 3:21:44am |
re: #196 Obdicut
Here's a question, if the president loses and the republicans maintain control of the house and re-take the senate how much of the blame do the democrats and the president deserve?
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 3:22:24am |
Here's my view, I've been saying for the last couple of years that they deserve almost all the blame by focusing on secondary issues instead of the 2 top issues. If the president had embraced his own debt commission and not spent 2 years on HCR he wouldn't be in this position and the repubs wouldn't be looking at a total takeover.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 3:27:52am |
A "no-shit" moment:
New Report Suggests Low-Carb Diets Not Harmful To Health
[Link: philadelphia.cbslocal.com...]
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 3:33:30am |
A few days ago the Supreme Court said it's juries that get to decide, not federal courts, thus:
Harrisburg Man Who Was Freed After Murder Conviction Overturned Must Now Report Back To Prison
[Link: philadelphia.cbslocal.com...]
and here is a video of one of the Edwards jurors:
Edwards juror on "flirting:" I think it's funny
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]
double-edged sword.
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Obdicut Sat, Jun 2, 2012 3:33:39am |
re: #197 RogueOne
Here's a question, if the president loses and the republicans maintain control of the house and re-take the senate how much of the blame do the democrats and the president deserve?
I'm not really very interested in blame, and I really don't even know what you're asking. Blame for what? For playing politics badly or something?
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Obdicut Sat, Jun 2, 2012 3:36:10am |
re: #198 RogueOne
Here's my view, I've been saying for the last couple of years that they deserve almost all the blame by focusing on secondary issues instead of the 2 top issues.
Oh, I see. How weird.
Health care reform is one of the most vital things to the health of our economy; sadly, HCR was crippled by the GOP.
Likewise, attempts at more stimulus spending would have been crippled by the GOP, so more attempts to help the economy in that way would have been rather futile.
If the president had embraced his own debt commission and not spent 2 years on HCR he wouldn't be in this position and the repubs wouldn't be looking at a total takeover.
Sure he would. The debt commission's recommendations aren't some magic bullet for the economy. I have no idea why you think they were. Furthermore, he couldn't just 'embrace' them, the GOP would have to go along as well, and the GOP are hostage-taking and then breaking the agreements made after that, anyway.
Is there any particular reason you choose to ignore the GOP obstructionism when apportioning blame-- other than it allowing you to blame Democrats?
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 3:42:25am |
re: #201 Obdicut
... Blame for what? For playing politics badly or something?
Exactly, they played politics badly. They spent the first 2 years making sure a good crisis didn't go to waste. If you want to continue winning and advancing your agenda you have to bring in more than just your own constituency. Neither party can win a majority based solely on the votes of their own party members.
Clinton managed to get re-elected after getting his ass handed to him in '94 because he was still able to advance his agenda by not over-reaching. If you care about your parties "Issue C" you better make sure you take care of the majorities "Issue A".
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Obdicut Sat, Jun 2, 2012 3:43:10am |
re: #203 RogueOne
Exactly, they played politics badly. They spent the first 2 years making sure a good crisis didn't go to waste.
Oy. Never mind.
I'm going to go work out.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 3:49:16am |
Oy, if it isn't the "Forgotten Man":
www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/images/vr/burden.jpg
Must be his grandpa. /
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 3:50:29am |
Speaking of Mr. Clinton:
Bill Clinton: Praising Romney's business record doesn't connote endorsement
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]
Appearing on CNN on Thursday, Clinton said of Romney: "A man who's been governor and had a sterling business career crosses the qualification threshold." Conservatives such as Rush Limbaugh crowed that the former president had "basically endorsed" the presumptive GOP nominee.
But at a rally in Paterson to support Rep. Bill Pascrell, Clinton said his remarks got "twisted around."
....
"So today, because I didn't attack him personally and bash him, I wake up to read all these stories taking it out of context as if I had virtually endorsed him, which means the tea party has already won their first great victory: 'We are supposed to hate each to disagree.' That is wrong."
I think he's mistaken. The "we must hate each other to disagree" is much more widespread than just the tea party.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 3:52:11am |
re: #206 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Oy, if it isn't the "Forgotten Man":
Must be his grandpa. /
It didn't come up so I googled the image name. This popped up:
Image: Conner%20Burden_jpg.jpg
What do you have against chubby kids playing basketball? Why do you hate america!
| 209 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 3:54:44am |
re: #208 RogueOne
OK, de-httpized the link.
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sagehen Sat, Jun 2, 2012 3:58:28am |
re: #203 RogueOne
Exactly, they played politics badly. They spent the first 2 years making sure a good crisis didn't go to waste. If you want to continue winning and advancing your agenda you have to bring in more than just your own constituency. Neither party can win a majority based solely on the votes of their own party members.
Clinton managed to get re-elected after getting his ass handed to him in '94 because he was still able to advance his agenda by not over-reaching. If you care about your parties "Issue C" you better make sure you take care of the majorities "Issue A".
Eric Cantor, Mitch McConnell, Karl Rove, Frank Luntz and a dozen other top Republicans had a dinner meeting in DC THE NIGHT OF THE INAUGURATION to plan how to obstruct Obama. Before he had a a chance to propose a single piece of legislation, before he had a chance to submit a single nominee to the Senate, the GOP had already determined to oppose every single thing on strict party line votes, to bring the full force of party discipline to bear, on Every. Single. Thing.
Mitch McConnell announced, publicly, that their single highest priority was to deny Obama a second term. Not to work towards consensus legislation, not to get the economy back on track, not to advance any legislation of their own preference... but just to block this president.
Four different Senators took turns pretending they might go along with the stimulus package if only they got this item taken out, or that concession, or yadda yadda, Olympia Snowe went through it line by line for weeks stripping it down, before finally giving it one vote in committee to take it to the floor (not that they needed any R votes in committee, but the president wanted *desperately* to try to reach out to any possible GOPer who'd speak to the Dems)... and it still got 0 Republican votes.
Anonymous holds on appointees, slow-rolling even assistant to the 3rd undersecretary of whosiwhatsit. Filibustering motions to even consider possibly discussing the possibility of opening discussion of bills. Some of the filibustered appointees were so uncontroversial that when they finally came to a vote they passed 94-2, but it took an extra 4 months to get that vote. Etc.
There is literally nothing Obama could have said or done that would have made the Republicans any less obstructionist. What they should have done is adopted filibuster reform on day one of the session, as proposed by two of the Freshman D senators -- to make filibusters something the R's would have to actually stand up and talk through and explain themselves on camera. Or failing that, to have recognized sooner what was happening, and just hardballed their own party discipline and jammed through as much of their agenda as was physically possible in the 4 months they had their filibuster-proof majority.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 4:09:18am |
re: #210 sagehen
I'm not trying to deny that the Republicans haven't exactly acted in good faith here but for 2 years they had an absolute majority and they chose to push for pet issues instead of dealing with what the majority in the country thought they should have been doing. Clinton managed to get things done while simultaneously dealing with Newt Freaking Gingrich as the Majority leader. That's a lot more difficult than dealing with Emo-Boehner as the minority leader.
And lets not lay all the blame for the discord strictly on republicans here. It was the president who said "I won" and the republicans could get on the bus but they were going to have to sit in the back and it was his chief of staff that laid the groundwork with "don't let a good crisis go to waste". They desperately wanted to get HCR done and ran with it while they had a huge majority. It was a major tactical error. Not only is it going to be struck down but it turned the country into a democrat wasteland in 2010 and they're looking at losing control of everything this year after it looked like the Republican party was dead in '08. They had the repubs on the ropes and not only let up on them, they handed them a bludgeon to beat them into submission.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 4:11:23am |
re: #211 RogueOne
That is the reason I'm still crossing my fingers for Obama during this cycle...because if the repubs take over all 3 branches I expect them to pull the same stunt.
| 213 |
RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 4:27:38am |
Revenge of the Nerds: Tech Firms Scour College Campuses for Talent
Companies Woo Best Students With Equity, Fat Salaries and Free Food
[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]
Universities are doing the same. My niece graduates HS #1 in her class Sunday. She had scholarship offers from a variety of schools with her preference being Michigan (Go Blue). When one of the other schools found out she was going to accept the Michigan offer they sweetened the pot. Not only does she get a free ride, they're also giving her a paid internship. Female engineering students are a hot commodity.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 4:54:31am |
Love, Ire, and Song - Frank Turner
......
Well it was bad enough the feeling, and the first time it hit
When you realised your parents had let the world all go to shit
And that the values and ideals for which many had fought and died
Had been killed off in the committees and left to die by the wayside
But it was worse when we turned to the kids on the left
And got let down again by some poor excuse for protest
Yeah by idiot fucking hippies in 50 different factions
Who are locked inside some kind of 60's battle re-enactment
And I hung-up my banner in disgust and I head for the door
......
Then where's the harm spending an evening
In manning the old barricades, so come on old friends to the streets
Let's be 1905 but not 1917, let's be heroes, let's be martyrs, let's be radical thinkers
Who never have to test drive the least of their dreams
Let's divide up the world into the damned and safe
And then ride to the valleys like the old life brigade
And straighten our backs and we won't be afraid
And they'll celebrate our deaths with a national parade
.....
| 215 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:11:39am |
Morning all!
Dogs are fed, watered, pooped and are now playing.
you?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:12:21am |
re: #213 RogueOne
Revenge of the Nerds: Tech Firms Scour College Campuses for Talent
Companies Woo Best Students With Equity, Fat Salaries and Free Food
[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]Universities are doing the same. My niece graduates HS #1 in her class Sunday. She had scholarship offers from a variety of schools with her preference being Michigan (Go Blue). When one of the other schools found out she was going to accept the Michigan offer they sweetened the pot. Not only does she get a free ride, they're also giving her a paid internship. Female engineering students are a hot commodity.
so much for the "math is hard" meme --huh?
| 217 |
RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:12:32am |
re: #215 ggt
Morning, I've been talking to myself for hours!
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:14:13am |
re: #216 ggt
She's a sweet, bright kid. Her family life is completely screwed so she poured herself into books and school work early. Silver lining I guess.
| 219 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:16:46am |
re: #196 Obdicut
I think most people realize that Romney might get elected, with all that means-- a further destruction of the US's science standards, continued AGW denial, further widening of the income disparity, crippling our economy, appointment of judges and Supreme Court justices who will further break down barriers between church and state, sweeping restrictions against women's rights, etc. etc.
There's a lot of people in the country that actively want those things, or who stubbornly refuse to give up their Ayn Rand view of economics even with all the recent banking debacles and the failures of austerity policies. That they're wrong in the most easily demonstrable way doesn't take away their right to vote.
I can't understand the adherence to Ayn Rand by the Right. She was anti-religion and very much Pro-science. I don't think her economic policies were quite what the Right thinks they are. She seemed to think every one could or would want to succeed if given the freedom to compete. Strange idealist, but I never saw her as Right Wing --she believed in abortion for Bob's sake.
| 220 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:18:21am |
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AK-47% Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:21:53am |
re: #219 ggt
I can't understand the adherence to Ayn Rand by the Right. She was anti-religion and very much Pro-science. I don't think her economic policies were quite what the Right thinks they are. She seemed to think every one could or would want to succeed if given the freedom to compete. Strange idealist, but I never saw her as Right Wing --she believed in abortion for Bob's sake.
They can be selective in their views of anyone they idolize, be it Ronal Reagan or Ayn Rand.
And yes, a lot of Americans are not only not troubled by the fact, but actively seeking to erase all the gains we have made in women's, minority and gay rights back by at least five decades.
The Democrats need to make that point very clear.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:22:18am |
re: #220 ggt
What did you say?
Frank Turner lyrics.
Reasons Not To Be An Idiot
So get up and get down and get outside
Cos it's a lovely sunny day
But you hide yourself away
You've only got yourself to blame
Get up and get down and get outside!
| 223 |
dragonfire1981 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:22:22am |
Wanted: Friends for Anders Behring Breivik
I have to say, I am a bit disappointed in the Norwegian justice system after reading that.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:26:38am |
This was posted the other day:
Superior Court judge says Nazi dad can't have his four kids back
[Link: www.nj.com...]
Campbell, who still lives in Hunterdon County, last saw his children roughly a year ago. He said he is now separated from his wife, Deborah, who lives out of state.
"If I have to give up my Nazism, then so be it. I’ll do it," he said. The children are "more my heart and soul and everything than anything."
If it's true that the only reason they still can't have their kids back is because he's a Nazi...I have some serious problems with the decision.
| 225 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:28:49am |
I give her credit for putting up with the BS for 60 years. I would have told everyone to stuff it after 6 months.
| 226 |
RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:30:29am |
re: #225 ggt
I love the pics of her in uniform:
Image: TSFt9.jpg
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:30:38am |
re: #224 RogueOne
This was posted the other day:
Superior Court judge says Nazi dad can't have his four kids back
[Link: www.nj.com...]If it's true that the only reason they still can't have their kids back is because he's a Nazi...I have some serious problems with the decision.
This was the guy that named his kid Adolf. He is whacko, not just Nazi. He shouldn't have his kids back.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:31:06am |
re: #226 RogueOne
I love the pics of her in uniform:
Image: TSFt9.jpg
I think she took after her mom. Queen Mum was awesome.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:32:06am |
re: #227 ggt
I disagree. Political orientation isn't a factor in deciding if someone is entitled to raise their own children. He has every right to be a Nazi and still have children.
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AK-47% Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:33:37am |
re: #223 dragonfire1981
Wanted: Friends for Anders Behring Breivik
I have to say, I am a bit disappointed in the Norwegian justice system after reading that.
Troubling to our eyes, but on reflection, we Americans have to realize that other nations have a justice system that is not based on simply punishment, but also on removing criminals dangerous from society and attempting to reform them.
And even though it is pretty clear that this fellow is not capable of being reformed, he is nonetheless not just regarded as another piece of human excrement to be quietly flushed away.
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AK-47% Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:34:39am |
re: #227 ggt
This was the guy that named his kid Adolf. He is whacko, not just Nazi. He shouldn't have his kids back.
I think the case can be made that he is a danger to his childrens' physical and mental well-being.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:37:52am |
So many people found work and prosperity in Detroit.
100 years ago (approx) various members of my family went to Detroit to work. They were in construction and there were lots of projects. My grandfather found work there during the depression.
My Dad was an engineer in the auto industry and did two tours-of-duty in Detroit.
I consider it my the home of my childhood.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:39:03am |
re: #229 RogueOne
I disagree. Political orientation isn't a factor in deciding if someone is entitled to raise their own children. He has every right to be a Nazi and still have children.
This guy is beyond Nazi. It's not about political orientation. He is whacko.
Really? to idolize someone that killed Millions of people to the point that you purposely name your child after that person?
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:40:01am |
re: #233 ggt
Same here. My G-pa moved the family from KY to Detroit for work in the early 50's. I was born there but the entire family, minus 3 cousins, have all moved out.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:44:16am |
re: #234 ggt
He's allowed to be odd. He's absolutely entitled to believe whatever he wants, we all have that right. It isn't up to the state to agree with people's political views. Unless the state can prove the kids were being mistreated they have no business taking them away because they disagree with naming the kid "Hitler". If they get away with it this time what's to stop them from taking kids away because the parents named them "Moonbeam" or "Lucifer" (which is a great name btw)?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:44:50am |
re: #237 RogueOne
He's allowed to be odd. He's absolutely entitled to believe whatever he wants, we all have that right. It isn't up to the state to agree with people's political views. Unless the state can prove the kids were being mistreated they have no business taking them away because they disagree with naming the kid "Hitler". If they get away with it this time what's to stop them from taking kids away because the parents named them "Moonbeam" or "Lucifer" (which is a great name btw)?
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:45:06am |
re: #236 ggt
He's in France. Going to be pretty hard to pick out the weirdo there....
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:45:34am |
re: #238 ggt
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
You don't agree that Lucifer is a great name? ////
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:46:45am |
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:48:58am |
Local news. This is sort of a novel argument:
Girl could have avoided sex with coach, school district argues
[Link: www.indystar.com...]
LAPORTE, Ind. — A northern Indiana school district has responded to an $18.7 million lawsuit from the family of a teenage girl who had sex with her volleyball coach, saying she voluntarily engaged in the relationship and assumed all risk.
The family filed the lawsuit last week, maintaining LaPorte Community Schools officials ignored signs the two were involved in a relationship. The lawsuit says the district 25 miles west of South Bend didn't properly supervise its employees or provide a safe environment for the girl.
Robert Ashcraft was sentenced to 21 years in prison last July on charges of sexual misconduct and child seduction.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:51:20am |
I just realized I haven't seen SFZ in awhile. She traveling or have I just missed her?
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Mattand Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:54:53am |
re: #211 RogueOne
Maybe. The "Obama shouldn't tackle HCR" meme rankles me because it's never a good time. If he got re-elected to a 2nd term and dealt with it then, it wouldn't be a good time. And it's not like Obama excluded the GOP from the discussion. Plus, they spent more time trying to derail it than contribute anything useful to the discussion.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:56:39am |
re: #224 RogueOne
This was posted the other day:
Superior Court judge says Nazi dad can't have his four kids back
[Link: www.nj.com...]If it's true that the only reason they still can't have their kids back is because he's a Nazi...I have some serious problems with the decision.
I've been just thinking about that. On the surface the decision seems like a no-brainer.
But then, where does one stop? Should the state take away someone's children if they name them after Mao? What if the parents name their children normally, but still indoctrinate them with Nazism? And if indoctrinating one's children with wacky stuff is a no-no, then shouldn't the state take away children of young-earth creationist wackos? What about the Phelps family?
IOW, what are the standards? Where does one stop?
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Mattand Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:57:44am |
re: #242 RogueOne
Local news. This is sort of a novel argument:
It's "blame the victim". Not really novel at all.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:59:21am |
re: #245 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
That's exactly my thinking. Allowing the majority to decide what is and what isn't appropriate for people to teach their kids is a dangerous precedent to set.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:00:47am |
re: #246 mattand
It's "blame the victim". Not really novel at all.
Was she actually a victim though? By "novel" I meant the whole "could have avoided" part. The imagery struck me funny.
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Mattand Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:01:19am |
re: #224 RogueOne
re: #245 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
I'm in uneasy agreement on this one. You could almost make this argument for one side of my family; not Nazis, but virulently racist and proud of it. Should they have had their kids taken from them despite their horrible views?
I hate to use "thought crime" but the decision does lean perilously close to that.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:01:40am |
re: #247 RogueOne
That's exactly my thinking. Allowing the majority to decide what is and what isn't appropriate for people to teach their kids is a dangerous precedent to set.
As an example, should the state take away that 4 y.o. boy that sang a homophobic song in that church? If not, why not?
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:02:54am |
re: #250 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
As an example, should the state take away that 4 y.o. boy that sang a homophobic song in that church? If not, why not?
I had seen that story last week. Didn't realize it was a Hoosier church until recently. We're all very proud///.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:02:56am |
re: #245 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
I've been just thinking about that. On the surface the decision seems like a no-brainer.
But then, where does one stop? Should the state take away someone's children if they name them after Mao? What if the parents name their children normally, but still indoctrinate them with Nazism? And if indoctrinating one's children with wacky stuff is a no-no, then shouldn't the state take away children of young-earth creationist wackos? What about the Phelps family?
IOW, what are the standards? Where does one stop?
You are really rationalizing here. Young Earth Creationists = Adolf HItler?
This is where I'd like to see a full psych evaluation and treatment before they get their kids back.
Somehow naming your kid after such a monster seems ok to you?
So, the kid is going to grow-up thinking it's just fine to gas 6 Million Jews?
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Mattand Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:03:53am |
re: #248 RogueOne
Was she actually a victim though? By "novel" I meant the whole "could have avoided" part. The imagery struck me funny.
No. The teacher had a moral imperative and professional duty to not have sex with a 15 year old.
The school's going with Magical Balance Fairy partly because this may not be the teacher's 1st on-the-job underage conquest.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:05:56am |
re: #249 mattand
re: #245 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
I'm in uneasy agreement on this one. You could almost make this argument for one side of my family; not Nazis, but virulently racist and proud of it. Should they have had their kids taken from them despite their horrible views?
I hate to use "thought crime" but the decision does lean perilously close to that.
On the other hand of the argument, should the parents be free to name their children "Shitheads", "Whores" and "C***ts"? And if not (and it's rather clear that they shouldn't be able to do that), why should they be able to call them "Hitler"?
I think the solution is not to take away the children after the fact, but not to let parents name them in such a way in the first place. I.e. the registrar should not have put down these names in the first place.
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Mattand Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:08:06am |
re: #254 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
On the other hand of the argument, should the parents be free to name their children "Shitheads", "Whores" and "C***ts"? And if not (and it's rather clear that they shouldn't be able to do that), why should they be able to call them "Hitler"?
I think the solution is not to take away the children after the fact, but not to let parents name them in such a way in the first place. I.e. the registrar should not have put down these names in the first place.
The problem with this is that this happend to Frank Zappa when he named one of his kids; Dweezil, IIRC. The nurse refused to sign off on the paperwork until the child got a "proper" name.
Fucking Nazis ruin everything.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:09:58am |
re: #253 mattand
I understand the states position that teachers having sex with their students is verboten. OTOH, 21 years in prison for consensual sex? Did he take advantage of her youth and naivete? Certainly. Should he go to prison for a couple decades and the family be awarded $18M? That's a tougher question in my mind. It almost gives someone a financial incentive to lie.
Remember this story from last week?
Brian Banks' rape conviction vacated
[Link: espn.go.com...]
In an initial meeting with him, she said she had lied; there had been no kidnap and no rape and she offered to help him clear his record, court records state.
But she refused to repeat the story to prosecutors because she feared she would have to return a $1.5 million payment from a civil suit brought by her mother against Long Beach schools.
During a second meeting that was secretly videotaped, she told Banks, "'I will go through with helping you but it's like at the same time all that money they gave us, I mean gave me, I don't want to have to pay it back," according to a defense investigator who was at the meeting.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:11:08am |
re: #254 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
I think the solution is not to take away the children after the fact, but not to let parents name them in such a way in the first place. I.e. the registrar should not have put down these names in the first place.
Aren't there places where that's the norm? I seem to recall a story not that long ago about it.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:12:08am |
re: #252 ggt
You are really rationalizing here. Young Earth Creationists = Adolf HItler?
This is where I'd like to see a full psych evaluation and treatment before they get their kids back.
Somehow naming your kid after such a monster seems ok to you?
So, the kid is going to grow-up thinking it's just fine to gas 6 Million Jews?
You ignored two things.
First of all, the Mao example.
Second is that there is no clear distinction between one wacky view and another, since it's a continuum. So where exactly does one stop? That's the point of my comment. Where is the demarcation? I happen to think that a child inculcated in YEC ideology is crippled, in a way. Yet I do not propose taking him away.
Also, it seems the children were taken away merely because of the names. If he named them John and Mary, he would be able to instill in them whatever ideology he liked.
Finally, again, do you think children of all racists, homophobes and misogynists should be taken away? Because that's multiple millions.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:13:40am |
re: #258 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
You ignored two things.
First of all, the Mao example.
Second is that there is no clear distinction between one wacky view and another, since it's a continuum. So where exactly does one stop? That's the point of my comment. Where is the demarcation? I happen to think that a child inculcated in YEC ideology is crippled, in a way. Yet I do not propose taking him away.
Also, it seems the children were taken away merely because of the names. If he named them John and Mary, he would be able to instill in them whatever ideology he liked.
Finally, again, do you think children of all racists, homophobes and misogynists should be taken away? Because that's multiple millions.
It was more than names. This guy was a like a Nazi Disciple, IIRC. The home enivronment was bizarre.
Seriously in need of psych help.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:13:43am |
re: #257 RogueOne
Aren't there places where that's the norm? I seem to recall a story not that long ago about it.
Do you mean local pockets of Nazis?
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:15:04am |
re: #260 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Do you mean local pockets of Nazis?
Well, Illinois is lousy with Nazis.//
I meant a database of names not to be used with children. For some reason somewhere in Europe comes to mind but I could be crazy.
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Mattand Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:15:40am |
re: #256 RogueOne
Apples and oranges. The Banks case involved two minors. The IN case involves a minor and an adult, who as part of his job description shouldn't be fucking his underage students.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:16:02am |
Court records also show that the oldest child, Adolf, frequently threatened to kill people.
The mother reportedly had also once given a note to her neighbour saying she was terrified of her husband, who had threatened to kill her.
The Campbells have previously defended the names, saying they chose them simply because they liked them and they were unique.
Campbell said he named his son after the Nazi leader as 'no one else in the world would have that name'.
Read more: [Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
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Mattand Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:16:34am |
re: #261 RogueOne
Well, Illinois is lousy with Nazis.//
Especially the ones who meet at Addison Ave.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:18:24am |
dogs are now taking their mid-morning nap.
I'm consulted the Cat Overlord and he has no objections to both of us joining them.
Have a great one all!
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:18:29am |
re: #262 mattand
Apples and oranges. The Banks case involved two minors. The IN case involves a minor and an adult, who as part of his job description shouldn't be fucking his underage students.
True but the scenarios aren't all that different. In the student/teacher case there isn't any suggestion that it wasn't consensual. If students know they can get paid millions for sleeping with their teachers.... I don't know. It feels like a situation just begging to get exploited.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:18:32am |
re: #259 ggt
I think that may have been the right decision because of the names. Because these children will live in a larger society.
I doubt that would have been the right decision merely because of ideology. Because if we agree to take away children because of ideology, I have a long list of pernicious ideologies ready that covers hundreds of millions children worldwide...
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Mattand Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:19:28am |
re: #263 ggt
Court records also show that the oldest child, Adolf, frequently threatened to kill people.
The mother reportedly had also once given a note to her neighbour saying she was terrified of her husband, who had threatened to kill her.
The Campbells have previously defended the names, saying they chose them simply because they liked them and they were unique.
Campbell said he named his son after the Nazi leader as 'no one else in the world would have that name'.
Man, why the hell didn't the judge cite this as his reason?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:20:23am |
re: #268 mattand
Man, why the hell didn't the judge cite this as his reason?
We'd have to look-up the text of the judgement. I'm not sure we can go with the media reports on this one. (or any one)
bbl
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:20:28am |
re: #268 mattand
From what I understand that was the initial reason for taking the kids but the investigations didn't turn up anything other than the name issue.
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Mattand Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:20:48am |
re: #266 RogueOne
True but the scenarios aren't all that different. In the student/teacher case there isn't any suggestion that it wasn't consensual. If students know they can get paid millions for sleeping with their teachers... I don't know. It feels like a situation just begging to get exploited.
The teacher should have said, "No" and gone to his superior.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:22:30am |
re: #266 RogueOne
I don't think it merits prison time, but on the other hand he knew the possible consequences, so meh.
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Mattand Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:23:38am |
re: #272 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
I don't think it merits prison time, but on the other hand he knew the possible consequences, so meh.
Sleeping with an underage student doesn't require prison time?
EDIT: Age of consent is 16 in IN, so the teacher officially had sex with an underage student.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:26:07am |
I need to bail too. I'm running late now. One more Frank Turner song:
Frank Turner - Once we were anarchists
I’m young enough to be all pissed off
But I’m old enough to be jaded.
I’m of the age where I want things to change
But with age my hopes have faded.
I’m young and bored of being young and bored –
If I was old I could say I’d seen it all before.
In short, I’m tired of giving a shit.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:26:44am |
re: #272 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
I don't think it merits prison time, but on the other hand he knew the possible consequences, so meh.
I'm not entirely against prison time but 21 years seems excessive.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:27:57am |
K. I'm gone folks. Enjoy your day, get outside!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:29:49am |
re: #273 mattand
Sleeping with an underage student doesn't require prison time?
OK, I missed that she is 15. I happen to think the reasonable age of consent is 16. But age aside, and looking at merely the teacher-pupil dynamic (which is not all this case is about), firing and fining is enough. E.g. a teacher and a 18 y.o. pupil.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:54:08am |
re: #242 RogueOne
Local news. This is sort of a novel argument:
Girl could have avoided sex with coach, school district argues
[Link: www.indystar.com...]
This item is why I assumed she was not underage (without looking further). How can one argue legally that she assumed all risks, etc., if legally there was no consent? Quite absurd. So I thought this was a teacher-student "legal" sex brouhaha, like another recent case. So the school district's position is not tenable.
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Talking Point Detective Sat, Jun 2, 2012 7:31:12am |
re: #245 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
I've been just thinking about that. On the surface the decision seems like a no-brainer.
But then, where does one stop? Should the state take away someone's children if they name them after Mao? What if the parents name their children normally, but still indoctrinate them with Nazism? And if indoctrinating one's children with wacky stuff is a no-no, then shouldn't the state take away children of young-earth creationist wackos? What about the Phelps family?
IOW, what are the standards? Where does one stop?
More information is needed. For example;
HOLLAND TWP. — Fearing for her life, Deborah Campbell wrote a chilling letter to authorities, telling them to investigate her husband if she turned up dead.
"If anything may happened to me please do an altops on me b/c My husband has done something to me," the letter read. "Im afread that he might hurt my children if they are keeped in his care."
Investigators later found more ominous signs in the family’s Holland Township home in Hunterdon County: the bedroom windows were nailed shut and her husband kept the only working cell phone.
[...]
Case workers reviewed police reports documenting calls about loud arguments in the house, as well as the letter Deborah Campbell wrote and tape recordings of other arguments a neighbor provided, according to court papers. A DYFS worker also noticed the nailed bedroom windows, according to the court documents.
"The case worker tried to persuade the mother to leave the home and go to a safe place that DYFS would provide, but she refused," the decision said.
A DYFS worker also relayed information about the children after they were removed from the home.
"The boy had been aggressive with his sisters, and at one point took a vacuum cleaner to his sister’s throat saying ‘I’m going to kill you,’" according to court papers. The boy also threatened to kill the foster mother and had been aggressive at school, the court papers said. During the hearings that followed the Campbells’ loss of custody, the mother disavowed the letter, saying she had written it only as an outlet for her anger. She went on to describe her husband as a "loving, caring father who had never hurt her or the children."
Maybe someone naming their kids after Nazis is an indication that someone is a problematic parent?
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darthstar Sat, Jun 2, 2012 8:24:28am |
Hey everyone...just stopped by to say you're all wrong.
Yes, you.
You too.
And especially you.
Have a good day. Might drop by again later if I feel like I wasn't understood clearly enough. Other than that, it's time to walk the dogs, go to the club, then go to my nephew's high school graduation (I hope he doesn't get really drunk and puke like I did at mine.)
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HappyWarrior Sat, Jun 2, 2012 8:26:13am |
re: #279 Talking Point Detective
More information is needed. For example;
Maybe someone naming their kids after Nazis is an indication that someone is a problematic parent?
In that case, it seems that involving CPS was justified and indeed the right move.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 8:31:48am |
re: #279 Talking Point Detective
More information is needed.
Indeed. Which is why the question was whether the names themselves were enough.
Maybe someone naming their kids after Nazis is an indication that someone is a problematic parent?
We can reasonably expect such a correlation. That's not the issue.
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Talking Point Detective Sat, Jun 2, 2012 9:20:17am |
re: #282 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Indeed. Which is why the question was whether the names themselves were enough.
We can reasonably expect such a correlation. That's not the issue.
There's a lot of "government overreach" out there. But the amount that actually exists is a small fraction of what libertarians see. A basic assumption should be that a judge would not be ruling on such a case purely on the basis of the names a father gives to his kids. Sure, trust but verify, but Rogue is frequently looking for these kinds of examples to advance a larger argument, and so confirmation bias should also be a baseline hurdle.
In this situation, it sure looks like naming his kids as a tribute to Naziism was an very solid indication that giving him custody is certainly problematic. In contrast, Rogue seemed willing to interpret the case as an indication of the majority dictating how kids should be raised - without doing a very basic Internet search.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 9:25:18am |
re: #283 Talking Point Detective
Well, I'm actually close to the view that the names alone are sufficient for such a decision. I'm probing the limits of this, however. Open question for me.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 9:34:14am |
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 9:42:53am |
Changed my mind, don't go outside! I went out to help a friend and came home with a big knot on my cheekbone. Looks like someone punched me in my eye.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 9:44:40am |
re: #277 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
In IN if it's a teacher/student tryst it doesn't matter how old they are, the teacher is going to jail. If he wasn't a teacher he still would have been in deep poo because she was underage. "15 will get you 20".
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Varek Raith Sat, Jun 2, 2012 9:45:32am |
re: #289 RogueOne
Changed my mind, don't go outside! I went out to help a friend and came home with a big knot on my cheekbone. Looks like someone punched me in my eye.
Who needs enemies...
:P
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 9:48:30am |
re: #290 RogueOne
In IN if it's a teacher/student tryst it doesn't matter how old they are, the teacher is going to jail. If he wasn't a teacher he still would have been in deep poo because she was underage. "15 will get you 20".
Well, that's my point. Prison for sex with a minor is obvious.
I don't believe in prison for a mere teacher-student relationship, however (if it's indeed consensual and is not initiated by a teacher - but that can be a problem in any situation, e.g. in an employer-employee relationship). Such a relationship is obviously unprofessional, thus improper. But to put the woman (or man) in prison for it?
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wrenchwench Sat, Jun 2, 2012 9:51:09am |
re: #289 RogueOne
Changed my mind, don't go outside! I went out to help a friend and came home with a big knot on my cheekbone. Looks like someone punched me in my eye.
We have so much smoke outside I turned off my swamp cooler. And there's a parade about to start, supposedly. Folks are sitting on the curb wearing those useless dust masks.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 9:52:55am |
re: #292 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
IN also doesn't have an upper-age limit like some states. There was a case in this county a couple years ago that involved a 16 year old girl and a 15 year old boy. The parents freaked and the local prosecutor had her arrested and charged.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 9:57:22am |
re: #296 wrenchwench
I remember you posting pics last week (?), didn't realize you were a native. I've only been there a few times, how long have you lived there?
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wrenchwench Sat, Jun 2, 2012 9:58:08am |
re: #297 RogueOne
I remember you posting pics last week (?), didn't realize you were a native. I've only been there a few times, how long have you lived there?
Since 1995.
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 9:59:47am |
re: #298 wrenchwench
I lived south of Tucson for awhile in the early 90's. When I got my first apt the manager was explaining the swamp cooler. I had never heard of such a thing.
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Talking Point Detective Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:00:24am |
re: #284 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Well, I'm actually close to the view that the names alone are sufficient for such a decision. I'm probing the limits of this, however. Open question for me.
I'd say it's reasonable that someone naming their kids in tribute to genocidal murders is valid grounds for an investigation. That seems like a reasonable limit to me. Custody decisions should never be made without a thorough investigation.
As for what comprises grounds to take away custody, there are certainly obvious extremes, but many of those decisions take place in very complex contexts. The bar for taking kids away from parents should be set pretty high, and most courts try to err on the side of caution when considering taking kids away.
Sure - over-reach by courts exists, and while I'm not big on authority, I feel that there is a pretty widespread phenomenon where people have a default conclusion that over-reach is taking place. My confirmation bias is that legitimate concern about government over-reach is being swamped by a binary approach to government authority - with pretty deleterious results.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:03:37am |
re: #299 RogueOne
I lived south of Tucson for awhile in the early 90's. When I got my first apt the manager was explaining the swamp cooler. I had never heard of such a thing.
Yeah, they were new to me when I got here too. I love 'em. Air conditioning is too intense, a swamp cooler is soothing, especially when the humidity is at 5%. It went up to 20% yesterday, felt kind of muggy. It's weird how you can smell a little bit moisture after being so dry.
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Varek Raith Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:06:00am |
re: #301 wrenchwench
Yeah, they were new to me when I got here too. I love 'em. Air conditioning is too intense, a swamp cooler is soothing, especially when the humidity is at 5%. It went up to 20% yesterday, felt kind of muggy. It's weird how you can smell a little bit moisture after being so dry.
20%?
Wimp.
:P
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wrenchwench Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:08:13am |
re: #302 Varek Raith
20%?
Wimp.
:P
I was in D.C. in June once for about half an hour at the train station. When I stepped off the train, it felt like warm jello. Do those people know there's a whole big country with lots of nice parts they can move to?
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:10:41am |
That didn't take long:
Protests erupt across Egypt after surprise Mubarak verdict
[Link: english.ahram.org.eg...]
Demonstrators hit streets to protest Saturday ruling which saw Mubarak and El-Adly sentenced to jail for life while sons, police chiefs were acquitted. Follow Ahram Online's blow-by-blow account of the countrywide protests
Reason pointed out: "..on CNN, Mona Eltahawy explained Egyptians want to see the whole judiciary cleansed, noting that no cops have been convicted in the last 15 months for any of the nearly 1,000 protesters killed in that time (though a few have been in absentia). The problems go a lot deeper than just Mubarak.."
| 306 |
RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:14:04am |
When I moved back to IN I got a nice flat right downtown. It was a great place. The night of July 3 I noticed people starting to fill up the downtown area around 10pm. What I didn't know was they have a Midnight Parade the morning of the 4th. 4 straight hours of sirens from every podunk town within 30 miles that has a volunteer fire dept. The next year I spent the night in a hotel.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:22:56am |
re: #289 RogueOne
Changed my mind, don't go outside! I went out to help a friend and came home with a big knot on my cheekbone. Looks like someone punched me in my eye.
I see your friend got the cash I sent him!
/
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:26:26am |
re: #307 sattv4u2
I see your friend got the cash I sent him!
/
Thanks man! I met him at the shop to weld a crack in one of his truck frames. The only way to get to it was to get all stretched out like a research monkey. I managed to snap a grinding wheel in half while it was going roughly 11k RPM's and half of it hit me in the face. It was a good thing I had on safety glasses. It seriously hurt my feelings. I can see my swollen cheekbone out of the corner of my eye, it's distracting.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:27:24am |
Well, that was short. Probably partly because of the smoke, and partly because the guy organizing it is a big, lazy jerk.
| 310 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:28:12am |
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wrenchwench Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:28:18am |
re: #306 RogueOne
When I moved back to IN I got a nice flat right downtown. It was a great place. The night of July 3 I noticed people starting to fill up the downtown area around 10pm. What I didn't know was they have a Midnight Parade the morning of the 4th. 4 straight hours of sirens from every podunk town within 30 miles that has a volunteer fire dept. The next year I spent the night in a hotel.
We have a great 4th of July parade, but it's in the daytime, like normal people do.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:28:45am |
re: #311 wrenchwench
We have a great 4th of July parade, but it's in the daytime, like normal people do.
Ours has cub scouts and girls scouts.
On bikes with streamers in the spokes.
You can't beat that.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:29:13am |
re: #308 RogueOne
Thanks man! I met him at the shop to weld a crack in one of his truck frames. The only way to get to it was to get all stretched out like a research monkey. I managed to snap a grinding wheel in half while it was going roughly 11k RPM's and half of it hit me in the face. It was a good thing I had on safety glasses. It seriously hurt my feelings. I can see my swollen cheekbone out of the corner of my eye, it's distracting.
Those things can kill you. I've heard stories.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:29:59am |
re: #312 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Ours has cub scouts and girls scouts.
On bikes with streamers in the spokes.
You can't beat that.
Yes we can. Our cub scouts are on unicycles with streamers in the spokes!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:30:51am |
re: #314 wrenchwench
Yes we can. Our cub scouts are on unicycles with streamers in the spokes!
Do they throw candy?
| 316 |
RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:31:50am |
re: #315 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Do they throw candy?
I forgot that part, there was freaking candy everywhere. Lots of people throwing, no one catching.
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Shiplord Kirel Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:33:13am |
How crazy and ignorant has the GOP base become? Feast you eyes on this
uber-guano selection at Freeperland (if you dare):
That the father of our president was a Kenyan Communist is a well documented fact--but little is known about his initiation into this proven evil ideology. At his age Barack Obama senior had to have been introduced to the Chinese Communist (Mau Mau being an affectionate shout-out to the murderer of tens of millions Mao Zedong) version of socialist tyranny in the late 40s or early 50s. Cynically exploiting the primitive phobias and superstitions of the Kikuyu, the Kenyan Chicom Commisars of the Mau Mau made recruits do horrible, depraved and damning things during "oath" ceremonies so that they were convinced disobedience would result in their paying for the terrible sins they commited during the initiations.
What occured during these Mau Mau "oath" ceremonies would make the Marquis De Sade blush--and I think these traumatic "Dreams From My Father" may have influenced our president in negative ways--no I don't actually "think" that.
This is pure fantasy. No reputable scholar has ever asserted that the Mau-Mau had more than the haziest affiliation with international communism, let alone Chicom commissars. Even the most rabid British propagandists did not claim the Mau-Mau were communists. Some wingnut has heard the name, noted its phonetic similarity to "Mao" and concluded that Chicom advisors were training and organizing the Kenyan insurgents.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:33:41am |
re: #316 RogueOne
I forgot that part, there was freaking candy everywhere. Lots of people throwing, no one catching.
Of course--you needs kids to catch the candy. At our 4th of July parade, the kids bring bags.
No four year olds at midnight--well, hopefully not.
| 319 |
wrenchwench Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:34:10am |
re: #315 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Do they throw candy?
The cubbies don't, but lots of other folks do. But mostly they walk alongside the parade and hand it out, because of a terrible accident in another NM town, where a kid among the scramble for candy got killed by one of the floats.
In today's parade, one entry was handing out bottles of cold water. Not throwing them, fortunately.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:35:29am |
re: #319 wrenchwench
The cubbies don't, but lots of other folks do. But mostly they walk alongside the parade and hand it out, because of a terrible accident in another NM town, where a kid among the scramble for candy got killed by one of the floats.
In today's parade, one entry was handing out bottles of cold water. Not throwing them, fortunately.
That's terrible about the kids getting hurt.
We have Reser's in town.
They give out jerky sticks.
They are very popular.
| 321 |
Shiplord Kirel Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:37:21am |
Save us, oh Gawd! The Mau-Mau overlord Obama is sending his FEMA drones to launch remote-controlled machetes into our bedrooms and butcher us all in our sleep! Help! I'm meeelllltttiiiiing......
| 322 |
RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:37:28am |
I was reading about the smoke advisory in Tucson and stumbled onto this:
Phony ballot pick-up service targets unwary voters
[Link: azstarnet.com...]
The Pima County Recorder is warning all voters not to give their completed balllots to strangers.
F. Ann Rodriguez said her office has received numerous calls from people that are being called and asked if they want somebody to come pick up their ballot and take it to the post office or recorder’s office. Others have reported people knocking on their door and offering to turn in their ballots for them.
The Pima County Recorder’s Office does not condone this and warns voters that there is no guarantee the ballots will actually be turned in.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:38:17am |
re: #317 Shiplord Kirel
Given that Obama barely knew his father in childhood, such a question is irrelevant to boot.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:38:58am |
re: #320 Mostly sane, most of the time.
That's terrible about the kids getting hurt.
We have Reser's in town.
They give out jerky sticks.
They are very popular.
The parade on the 4th has lots of softball teams in pickups. They get in water fights with each other, and sometimes with the spectators. A few years ago I was in the parade (with streamers in my spokes) and I used my water bottle to nail a kid who had a Super Soaker. The crowd cheered.
| 325 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:39:46am |
re: #322 RogueOne
The Pima County Recorder’s Office does not condone this and warns voters that there is no guarantee the ballots will actually be turned in.
especially if the person picking it up says he represents a Nigerian Prince and also asks for your banking info so he can send you millions! !!
/
| 326 |
wrenchwench Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:42:40am |
re: #322 RogueOne
I was reading about the smoke advisory in Tucson and stumbled onto this:
Phony ballot pick-up service targets unwary voters
[Link: azstarnet.com...]
You need to move back there and straighten some people out.
| 327 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:43:42am |
re: #324 wrenchwench
The parade on the 4th has lots of softball teams in pickups. They get in water fights with each other, and sometimes with the spectators. A few years ago I was in the parade (with streamers in my spokes) and I used my water bottle to nail a kid who had a Super Soaker. The crowd cheered.
What about the Dairy Queens and the Rodeo Queens with big hair? Gotta have those.
The standing ovation last year, though, went to the three survivors of Pearl Harbor who got their own car.
| 328 |
RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:45:50am |
re: #326 wrenchwench
You need to move back there and straighten some people out.
That's in the plans. When I decide to retire I'm either going to end up in southern AZ or Mexico. I have a friend who managed to retire at 40 (there's a ton of money putting braces on rich kids!) and he moved out to Chandler a couple years ago.
| 329 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:47:02am |
re: #327 Mostly sane, most of the time.
What about the Dairy Queens and the Rodeo Queens with big hair? Gotta have those.
The standing ovation last year, though, went to the three survivors of Pearl Harbor who got their own car.
ijits!!
[Link: www.adweek.com...]
//
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:50:36am |
re: #329 sattv4u2
Has it really been 25 years?
Although I should have said Dairy Princesses. It's a scholarship thing.
| 331 |
RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:50:42am |
re: #329 sattv4u2
I had a banana cream pie blizzard 3 times last week (rough week). I just checked, there are almost 1100 calories in just one of them. No wonder they taste so good!
| 332 |
wrenchwench Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:50:47am |
re: #327 Mostly sane, most of the time.
What about the Dairy Queens and the Rodeo Queens with big hair? Gotta have those.
The standing ovation last year, though, went to the three survivors of Pearl Harbor who got their own car.
No dairies, but lots of Rodeo Queens, and Miss [City] and Miss [County] and so on. Some years there's a long flatbed trailer with LDS veterans on folding chairs lining each side. They get lots of cheers. But the standing ovations go to the smoke jumpers, who march dressed like this:
Image: 300px-Mso_smokejumpers.png
in the 90 degree heat.
| 333 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:51:49am |
re: #328 RogueOne
That's in the plans. When I decide to retire I'm either going to end up in southern AZ or Mexico. I have a friend who managed to retire at 40 (there's a ton of money putting braces on rich kids!) and he moved out to Chandler a couple years ago.
Nice,,, but I need to be near an ocean or at the least, a body of salt water
We're deciding whether it's going to be South Carolina (where we have a condo) or the Gulf Shores Alabama area where we have a small plot of land
| 334 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:52:36am |
re: #332 wrenchwench
No dairies, but lots of Rodeo Queens, and Miss [City] and Miss [County] and so on. Some years there's a long flatbed trailer with LDS veterans on folding chairs lining each side. They get lots of cheers. But the standing ovations go to the smoke jumpers, who march dressed like this:
Image: 300px-Mso_smokejumpers.png
in the 90 degree heat.
Never forget the unsung hero of the parade. Oh yes, I refer to...the pooper scooper cart guys.
| 335 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:53:07am |
re: #331 RogueOne
I had a banana cream pie blizzard 3 times last week (rough week). I just checked, there are almost 1100 calories in just one of them. No wonder they taste so good!
After getting bapped in the face today, you deserve another!
(nana cream pie, that is,,, NOT another bap)
| 336 |
Varek Raith Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:54:45am |
| 337 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:54:46am |
re: #334 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Never forget the unsung hero of the parade. Oh yes, I refer to...the pooper scooper cart guys.
ESPECIALLY if the parade has elephants!
| 338 |
RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:55:13am |
re: #333 sattv4u2
That's awfully pretty territory but I'm really big on the desert and mountains. I can wander for days without getting bored.
| 339 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:56:01am |
re: #338 RogueOne
That's awfully pretty territory but I'm really big on the desert and mountains. I can wander for days without getting bored.
I can do the same along a shoreline!!
| 340 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:56:25am |
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RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:56:45am |
re: #336 Varek Raith
FTA:
Conservation officials say the bear was caught, but may be killed to ensure public safety.
The bear does a public service and they're going to put it down? Stupid Canadians....
| 342 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:57:45am |
Wassup with the human flesh eating lately?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:57:58am |
re: #341 RogueOne
FTA:
The bear does a public service and they're going to put it down? Stupid Canadians...
Not really
Do you have any idea how many people can be fed with all that bear meat!
| 344 |
RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:58:35am |
| 345 |
Shiplord Kirel Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:58:37am |
re: #336 Varek Raith
What will noted anti-Bear activist Bryan Fischer make of this? Fischer is a noted law and order guy and a proponent of capital punishment but a bear administering the sentence must surely place him in a quandary.
| 346 |
RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:59:45am |
re: #345 Shiplord Kirel
What will noted anti-Bear activist Bryan Fischer.....
| 347 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:00:33am |
| 348 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:01:49am |
re: #342 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Wassup with the human flesh eating lately?
Sushi is so 2000's !
| 349 |
Shiplord Kirel Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:06:28am |
re: #342 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Wassup with the human flesh eating lately?
Yet another outcome of Obama's failed economic policies, which starve small business of new capital and cannibals and rogue bears of more acceptable dietary choices. No doubt Michelle's anti-fat campaign plays a role as well. Note also that the bear attack occurred in Bolshevist Canada. Need I say more?
| 350 |
Amory Blaine Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:08:18am |
re: #342 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Wassup with the human flesh eating lately?
Well alot of us are more plump and juicy than in the past.
| 351 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:11:21am |
re: #350 Amory Blaine
Well alot of us are more plump and juicy than in the past.
| 352 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:13:24am |
Okay, time to take the kids to the library to sign up for the Summer Reading Program.
Free books!
| 353 |
RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:14:04am |
Lots of this going around:
Deputies: Former Altar Valley coach on the lam with teen girl
[Link: azstarnet.com...]
but the winner is...
Erin Sayar, teacher at Brooklyn’s infamous James Madison High School, arrested following alleged affair with 16-year-old student
[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]
Erin Sayar, an English teacher at Brooklyn’s infamous James Madison High School, was arrested on charges including rape for her torrid affair with a 16-year-old student, law enforcement officials said.
....
In legal papers filed Wednesday by Kevin’s parents in Brooklyn Supreme Court, Sayar is also accused of giving her student, now 17, pot that she kept in a school file cabinet.
| 354 |
RogueOne Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:15:01am |
Time for me to run too. Enjoy the rest of the day folks.
| 355 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:15:22am |
NATO rescues aid workers held by Afghan militants
It was a risky but successful operation: British and other NATO forces stormed a cave tucked in the mountains before dawn Saturday and rescued two foreign female aid workers and their two Afghan colleagues being held hostage by Taliban-linked militants.
Helicopters, flying under the cover of darkness, ferried the rescue team to extreme northeastern Afghanistan where they suspected the hostages were being held. After confirming the workers were there, they raided the site, killed several militants and freed the hostages, ending their nearly two-week ordeal.
| 356 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:16:39am |
re: #353 RogueOne
In legal papers filed Wednesday by Kevin’s parents in Brooklyn Supreme Court, Sayar is also accused of giving her student, now 17, pot that she kept in a school file cabinet.
Idjit
everyone knows you keep your stash in a locker!!
/
| 357 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:21:33am |
New Obama website: What has this man done for America?
I'm not too crazy about this one: [Link: obamamerica.org...]
Although I fully support flag burning I think it's probably not a good idea to burn a flag for a campaign commercial [Link: obamamerica.org...]
| 358 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:25:10am |
re: #357 Killgore Trout
New Obama website: What has this man done for America?
I'm not too crazy about this one: [Link: obamamerica.org...]Although I fully support flag burning I think it's probably not a good idea to burn a flag for a campaign commercial [Link: obamamerica.org...]
Agreed
trying to tie other countries protesters burning a US flag is not a "their/ us" issue
Other countries protesters have burned our flag (and hung/ burned our leaders in effigy) regardless of which party held the office
| 359 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:26:26am |
re: #357 Killgore Trout
Although I fully support flag burning
Ah, um, surely you mean support the right to flag burning?
| 360 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:27:11am |
Lol. An observant Hot Air reader caught this Obama's America Building Bridges
| 361 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:28:25am |
re: #359 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Ah, um, surely you mean support the right to flag burning?
I'm pro-abortion too.
| 362 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:28:45am |
re: #357 Killgore Trout
Is it an official campaign site?
| 363 |
Charles Johnson Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:29:24am |
re: #357 Killgore Trout
New Obama website: What has this man done for America?
I'm not too crazy about this one: [Link: obamamerica.org...]Although I fully support flag burning I think it's probably not a good idea to burn a flag for a campaign commercial [Link: obamamerica.org...]
I seriously doubt this is an official Obama website.
| 364 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:29:31am |
re: #361 Killgore Trout
I'm pro-abortion too.
Well, last time I asked you said it's good if more people made abortions. I'm not sure why you would want more people to burn flags.
| 365 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:30:34am |
re: #360 Killgore Trout
Lol. An observant Hot Air reader caught this Obama's America Building Bridges
OUTSOURCING!!
| 366 |
wrenchwench Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:30:49am |
re: #362 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Is it an official campaign site?
Says right there:
Not authorized by any candidate
or candidate's committee
| 367 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:31:32am |
re: #363 Charles Johnson
I seriously doubt this is an official Obama website.
It's pretty poorly done. I suppose we could check who registered the URL.
| 368 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:31:34am |
An official site would have "approved by" legalese.
| 369 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:32:15am |
re: #366 wrenchwench
I don't see it.
| 370 |
Charles Johnson Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:33:06am |
re: #367 Killgore Trout
It's pretty poorly done. I suppose we could check who registered the URL.
It's definitely not an official site.
| 371 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:33:07am |
re: #367 Killgore Trout
You saw it at HotAir, right? That's what you get for taking wingnut nonsense seriously ;)
| 372 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:33:36am |
[Link: obamamerica.org...]
When was the last time we took POW's?
Whoever made that site is a moron.
| 373 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:34:22am |
| 374 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:34:33am |
re: #370 Charles Johnson
It's definitely not an official site.
Design and legalese aside, it's pretty obvious from the messages. Only a partisan wouldn't see it outright.
"Their America:
Lost The Will To Negotiate.
ObamAmerica:
Won The Nobel Peace Prize."
LOL. Prolly a wingnut fake.
| 375 |
Charles Johnson Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:34:59am |
re: #371 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
You saw it at HotAir, right? That's what you get for taking wingnut nonsense seriously ;)
Yeah, I notice that Twitchy.com is also ranting about this random website, as if it shows something about the Obama campaign. Clowns.
| 376 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:36:25am |
As the co-creator of America's longest running advertising campaign ("Stuck On Band-Aid Brand) I am proud to donate my talents and resources to the Re-election of the President. Please join me in this grassroots effort to keep America, America.
He should have stuck with the bandaids.
| 377 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:36:44am |
"Their America:
Lied To The World About War Casualties.
ObamAmerica:
Ended The Media Blackout On War Casualties."
LOL. I'm pretty sure the stupidosphere is burning with excitement right now!
| 378 |
Charles Johnson Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:37:42am |
| 379 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:38:19am |
| 380 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:38:46am |
re: #376 Killgore Trout
He should have stuck with the bandaids.
It's also very old. There's only one comment and it's from 9 months ago.
| 381 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:41:11am |
re: #378 Charles Johnson
Point and Laugh, but Bring Your Barf Bag: ObamAmerica | Twitchy
Yeah, they're having a good laugh. It's a pretty stupid site. They don't claim it's an official endorsed campaign ad.
| 382 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:41:15am |
re: #360 Killgore Trout
Lol. An observant Hot Air reader caught this Obama's America Building Bridges
So, are wingnuts at HA under impression that this is an official site?
| 383 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:41:29am |
re: #380 Killgore Trout
It's also very old. There's only one comment and it's from 9 months ago.
And he's modest!!
Now Advertising Age and the New York Ad Club refer to me as a legend. I'm far better than that
| 384 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:42:28am |
re: #380 Killgore Trout
It's also very old. There's only one comment and it's from 9 months ago.
I thought it was a "New Obama website"...
| 385 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:42:40am |
re: #382 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
So, are wingnuts at HA under impression that this is an official site?
Not that I'm aware of. I only skimmed the second page of comments. Mostly just laughing at how stupid the site is.
| 386 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:45:56am |
From the Twitchy post
Read this, keeping in mind the domain is registered to a "Smart Communications, Inc.": obamamerica.org
Smart Communications, Inc. It gets better and better.
We’re going to need some of that ObamAmerica health insurance to cure our bellyaches from laughing so hard!
| 387 |
Shiplord Kirel Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:47:16am |
re: #317 Shiplord Kirel
The voice of reason rears its unwelcome head at Freeperstan:
Probably the reason he was not a Mau Mau. Plus old man Obama was a Muslim, not a religion common amongst the Kikuyu ethnic group who constituted the Mau Mau. The Kikuyu political leader at the time of the Mau Mau uprising was Jomo Kenyatta. Kenyatta was imprisoned by the British at the time, but they couldn’t definifly connect him to the Mau Mau. However, from the time of independence for Kenya till his death in 1978, President Jomo Kenyatta was as staunch a US ally you could get in Africa. Some Navy vets of the time might remember port calls in Mombasa. Kenya was solidly on the side of the West during the Cold War.
The Kikuyu’s religion was animist, but the vast majority have become Christians over time. The Kikuyu are not Muslim. Thus Obama was not a Kikuyu, and if not a Kikuyu not a Mau Mau.
Both sides, the British and the Mau Mau, were anti-Communist. As I stated above, Kenyatta was a faithful US ally against the USSR his entire presidency until his death.Even today the Kenyan military is in combat against the Jihadists in Somalia. Now Nyerere of Tanzania was a true Communist. His last act was to instigate the Congo Wars of the 1990’s.
The freeper faithful are having none of it though:
The Mau Mau were created by the Communists even if their mission may have been confined to either expelling or exterminating the white settlers who were considered by universal communism as Capitalist imperialists.
The Mau Mau may have reformed into mere mild socialists (like the British only from a different tack) later but their Chicom origins are clear.
And Obama’s daddy was in the thick of it when the M&Ms were murdering black Bolsheviks. (emphasis added)
Note the difference in tone, with easily verifiable facts cited in the one case, and a series of unsourced, inflammatory claims in the other. This reminds me of the unfortunate Texas Tech history student who declared that the Spanish-American war was the result of "communist aggression."
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:48:10am |
Nontroversy.
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CuriousLurker Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:51:49am |
re: #385 Killgore Trout
Apparently it's also associated with an outfit called Obama Super PAC which, oddly enough considering their name, states on their website:
We are not a Political Action Committee but rather a Presidential Advertising Committee working hard to communicate President Obama's vision. If you believe in the American Dream, help us help the President Reunite America. Learn more at Facebook.com/ObamaSuperPac
If you click on "Accomplishments" you'll see it leads to the site in question. Considering they and Webber are supposed to be in advertising, they're doing a pretty piss poor job.
There's a little more info here, but I have no idea about how reliable the site is.
IMO, the whole thing is a giant *YAWN*.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:52:36am |
re: #388 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Nontroversy.
After taking Nontroversy, please consult a physician if you experience
Gas with oily spotting, loose stools, and more frequent stools that may be hard to control."
"Sleepwalking, and eating or driving while not fully awake, with amnesia for the event, have been reported."
"Do not use if you are a woman."
"Do not use if you ara a man"
"Serious risks include decreased sweating."
"Vision changes, such as seeing a blue tinge to objects or having difficulty telling the difference between the colors blue and green." Also, "An erection that won't go away."
"Some patients tried to end their own lives. And some people have ended their own lives." (Hint: While Paxil also has been linked to an increase in suicidal thoughts in some children/teens, that's not what we're looking for here.)
"The most common side effects following injection include temporary eyelid droop and nausea."
"This product is harmful to humans if swallowed. Avoid contact with skin."
"[In a small number of people] your skin and the whites of your eyes turn yellow
| 391 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:53:23am |
Yeah ,, i'm at work ,, It's a tad slow and I'm kinda bored ,, why do you ask!?!?
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wrenchwench Sat, Jun 2, 2012 11:59:56am |
re: #386 Killgore Trout
From the Twitchy post
"Smart Communications" has also registered Neocapitalistsociety.com .
And check this out. Weird.
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CuriousLurker Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:00:55pm |
re: #382 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
So, are wingnuts at HA under impression that this is an official site?
Doesn't matter. It's an opportunity to ridicule him.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:01:17pm |
re: #392 wrenchwench
"Smart Communications" has also registered Neocapitalistsociety.com .
And check this out. Weird.
As stated ,,, see 383!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:01:47pm |
re: #392 wrenchwench
"Smart Communications" has also registered Neocapitalistsociety.com .
And check this out. Weird.
He's a nut.
Silly wingnuts.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:03:02pm |
re: #392 wrenchwench
"Smart Communications" has also registered Neocapitalistsociety.com .
And check this out. Weird.
Check out #389. That article claims he buys antiObama domains and turn them into proObama sites. Maybe. I read through the comments at hot air and they're suspicious about it being a parody site.
| 397 |
CuriousLurker Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:03:26pm |
re: #386 Killgore Trout
From the Twitchy post
Yeah, Smart Communications, Inc. is also Webber: [Link: www.linkedin.com...]
| 398 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:04:28pm |
[Link: mybillionairebrain.com...]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:05:31pm |
re: #396 Killgore Trout
they're suspicious about it being a parody site.
Whatever could have led them to suspicion?!?! //
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CuriousLurker Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:06:13pm |
re: #392 wrenchwench
"Smart Communications" has also registered Neocapitalistsociety.com .
And check this out. Weird.
Creepy.
| 401 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:09:10pm |
re: #400 CuriousLurker
Creepy.
He seems pretty eccentric. He'll probably love all the attention he's getting from this.
| 402 |
CuriousLurker Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:10:15pm |
re: #401 Killgore Trout
He seems pretty eccentric. He'll probably love all the attention he's getting from this.
Heh, that's exactly what I was just thinking.
| 403 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:10:54pm |
re: #401 Killgore Trout
He seems pretty eccentric. He'll probably love all the attention he's getting from this.
Maybe we should all go post platitudes to him there!!
Every one of us,, post the EXACT SAME phrase!
| 405 |
researchok Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:12:51pm |
And with one comment, I've hit the thread carotid aretery
| 406 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:14:32pm |
re: #405 researchok
And with one comment, I've hit the thread carotid aretery
is there an app for that?
/
| 408 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:16:54pm |
re: #405 researchok
And with one comment, I've hit the thread carotid aretery
The thread turned into a bat and bit you. Now you're a thread too!
| 409 |
CuriousLurker Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:18:08pm |
re: #401 Killgore Trout
Looks like he's registered a crapload of domains. Ugh.
| 410 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:18:58pm |
Our friends in Pakistan, after convicting a doctor of helping us get Bin Laden, free more terrorists.
Pakistani court acquits 4 of helping NYC bomber
One of the men released Saturday, Muhammad Shoaib Mughal, had been charged with providing Shahzad with financial assistance, said his lawyer, Malik Imran Safdar. The other three men, Humbal Akhtar, Muhammad Shahid Husain and Faisal Abbasi were charged as Mughal's accomplices, said Safdar.
Following their arrests, several of the men were also accused of helping Shahzad link up with militants in the tribal region. But those accusations do not seem to have resulted in any charges.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:19:25pm |
re: #409 CuriousLurker
Looks like he's registered a crapload of domains. Ugh.
Hey ,, some people collect stamps for a hobby,,,, some garden ,,, looks like you've found his!
| 412 |
wrenchwench Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:20:42pm |
I've seen Twitter accounts with pro-Obama type names, posting anti-Obama comments. I think there will be a lot of false flag operations in social media during this campaign. This could be one of 'em.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:21:02pm |
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CuriousLurker Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:21:42pm |
re: #411 sattv4u2
Hey ,, some people collect stamps for a hobby,,, some garden ,,, looks like you've found his!
I guess that's one way of getting your name out there. Self advertising or whatever.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:23:17pm |
re: #412 wrenchwench
I've seen Twitter accounts with pro-Obama type names, posting anti-Obama comments. I think there will be a lot of false flag operations in social media during this campaign. This could be one of 'em.
You're just like Alex Jones!
| 416 |
CuriousLurker Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:23:49pm |
re: #412 wrenchwench
I've seen Twitter accounts with pro-Obama type names, posting anti-Obama comments. I think there will be a lot of false flag operations in social media during this campaign. This could be one of 'em.
Yep, I've almost blocked users on Twitter because at first glance I thought they were wingnuts, but they turned out to be parodies.
| 417 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:24:17pm |
| 418 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:25:36pm |
re: #410 Killgore Trout
The thing is, if the justice system there is as incompetent as described, it could easily be that some or all of these people aren't actually terrorists and were arrested because someone had to be arrested.
| 419 |
blueraven Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:25:50pm |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:28:57pm |
re: #418 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
The thing is, if the justice system there is as incompetent as described, it could easily be that some or all of these people aren't actually terrorists and were arrested because someone had to be arrested.
You would think if "someone had to be arrested" the authorities wouldn't pick people that "Most of the men acquitted Saturday come from the same stock as Shahzad — wealthy, urban, educated and with careers in computers, telecommunications and graphic design. Mughal was running a large computer dealership in Islamabad before his detention, instead, round up the "usual suspects"
| 422 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:32:56pm |
re: #421 sattv4u2
You would think if "someone had to be arrested" the authorities wouldn't pick people that "Most of the men acquitted Saturday come from the same stock as Shahzad — wealthy, urban, educated and with careers in computers, telecommunications and graphic design. Mughal was running a large computer dealership in Islamabad before his detention, instead, round up the "usual suspects"
Um, under such scenario people who come "from the same stock as Shahzad" and, in fact, may have connections of whatever nature to him - from wholly innocent and casual, to more private, to that of accomplices, would be the best targets for investigations and arrests. Not saying this is what happened, but it would be silly to argue that they have such competent police investigators and such incompetent prosecutors and judges. If the system is rotten it's usually in all aspects.
| 423 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:34:22pm |
"Hey, he is the best school buddy of that guy, could've been an accomplice. Let's arrest and *ahem* interrogate him."
| 424 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:37:17pm |
re: #423 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
"Hey, he is the best school buddy of that guy, could've been an accomplice. Let's arrest and *ahem* interrogate him."
No need. We have enough drones now.
| 425 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:38:07pm |
re: #423 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
"Hey, he is the best school buddy of that guy, could've been an accomplice. Let's arrest and *ahem* interrogate him."
Honestly, that can happen here, minus the torture part. If your best buddy gets arrested for something bad, the cops will likely want to talk to you. If they do, don't talk to them without a lawyer, because they don't have to tell you if they think you're involved.
| 426 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:38:28pm |
re: #424 Killgore Trout
No need. We have enough drones now.
So you think that all school friends of terrorists should be killed?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:41:08pm |
re: #426 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
So you think that all school friends of terrorists should be killed?
Not only all school friends,,, but anyone that has ever come into contact with them since they were, oh, say, 8 years old
doctors,, teachers,,, merchants,, the guy that sold the kid an ice cream ,soccer coaches ,,,third cousins twice removed by marriage ,, the guys butcher, baker and candlestick maker ,,,
| 428 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:41:16pm |
re: #426 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
So you think that all school friends of terrorists should be killed?
Because it's hard to interpret your comment otherwise. You could try though.
| 429 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:42:54pm |
re: #424 Killgore Trout
No need. We have enough drones now.
And sharks with frikin lasers attached to their heads
| 430 |
jaunte Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:43:51pm |
Jon McNaughton's new competition:
[Link: patriotdepot.com...]
"...Hang your print by the front door so as you depart your house and dive into the cultural trenches..."
| 431 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:43:55pm |
*crickets*
| 432 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:44:15pm |
| 433 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:46:05pm |
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:48:13pm |
re: #431 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
*crickets*
You can go ahead and add it to your creepy stalker file one me if you want. Of course the reality is that I'm just ignoring your obvious attempts to constantly manufacture fake outrageous outrages. It got old a long time ago.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:48:26pm |
re: #433 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Did anyone tell you you're a genius at comedy?
Is this a trick question?
Will this be on the final exam?
Do I have to show my work??
| 436 |
jaunte Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:49:21pm |
Conservative editor: Young Americans ‘so frickin’ stupid’ they shouldn’t get to vote
“It is a simple fact of science that nothing correlates more with ignorance and stupidity more than youth,” Goldberg said. “We’re all born idiots, and we only get over that condition as we get less young."
| 437 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:51:28pm |
re: #434 Killgore Trout
You can go ahead and add it to your creepy stalker file one me if you want. Of course the reality is that I'm just ignoring your obvious attempts to constantly manufacture fake outrageous outrages. It got old a long time ago.
I wrote:
"Hey, he is the best school buddy of that guy, could've been an accomplice. Let's arrest and *ahem* interrogate him."
You replied:
No need. We have enough drones now.
How is this not a suggestion to kill all of that guy's school buddies? And no, ad hominem like the above doesn't count as a legitimate reply.
| 438 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:52:20pm |
re: #435 sattv4u2
Is this a trick question?
Will this be on the final exam?
Do I have to show my work??
You've shown it yesterday. Not very impressive.
| 439 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:52:28pm |
re: #436 jaunte
Oh Jonah you so cute *squeeze* You couldn't beat an egg into submission
| 440 |
jaunte Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:53:11pm |
Brainless commercial overreach of the day:
B&N replaces every instance of the word “kindle” in Nook edition of War & Peace. villagecraftsmen.blogspot.com.br/2012/05/nookd.…. HT @GreatDismal
— Fred Sharples (@fredsharples) June 2, 2012
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:53:23pm |
re: #438 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
You've shown it yesterday. Not very impressive.
Oh, the humanity!!
I didn't impress you. Whatever will I do! How can I go on!! GOODBYE CRUEL WORLD!!!
| 442 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:54:29pm |
re: #427 sattv4u2
Not only all school friends,,, but anyone that has ever come into contact with them since they were, oh, say, 8 years old
doctors,, teachers,,, merchants,, the guy that sold the kid an ice cream ,soccer coaches ,,,third cousins twice removed by marriage ,, the guys butcher, baker and candlestick maker ,,,
...and then kick all their puppies!
| 443 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:54:41pm |
re: #441 sattv4u2
Oh, the humanity!!
I didn't impress you. Whatever will I do! How can I go on!! GOODBYE CRUEL WORLD!!!
It's not about me, it's about you. It's pretty sad that you find your act impressive.
| 444 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:55:43pm |
re: #436 jaunte
Conservative editor: Young Americans ‘so frickin’ stupid’ they shouldn’t get to vote
I do agree with this part of what Goldberg said:
Goldberg has also recently said that he does not believe Mitt Romney, his favored candidate in the 2012 U.S. presidential election, is enough of a “hip cat” to win the youth vote. He told Fox News anchor Jon Scott last month that instead of appealing to youth voters, Romney should simply rely on their lack of enthusiasm for President Barack Obama and focus on appealing to other demographics.
Mitt Romney is the classic 'Organization Man' and he is never going to convince anyone that he is something else. There's no shame in being such a person, but it does mean he needs to rely more calculations of interest and anger directed at Obama to win. An 'Org Man' simply is not going to make people enthusiastic.
| 445 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:56:45pm |
re: #443 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
It's not about me, it's about you. It's pretty sad that you find your act impressive.
8 shows a week
Matinees on Sundays
try the veal, and tip your waitress!
| 446 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:57:12pm |
re: #437 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Downding isn't an explanation either.
| 447 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:57:20pm |
| 448 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:57:42pm |
re: #445 sattv4u2
8 shows a week
Matinees on Sundays
try the veal, and tip your waitress!
And, no doubt, you will be with us all night.
| 449 |
Mattand Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:57:42pm |
re: #436 jaunte
Conservative editor: Young Americans ‘so frickin’ stupid’ they shouldn’t get to vote
How many of them kids were on his lawn when he said this?
| 450 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:58:01pm |
re: #427 sattv4u2
Not only all school friends,,, but anyone that has ever come into contact with them since they were, oh, say, 8 years old
doctors,, teachers,,, merchants,, the guy that sold the kid an ice cream ,soccer coaches ,,,third cousins twice removed by marriage ,, the guys butcher, baker and candlestick maker ,,,
That ain't funny! If you know the 'collective responsibility policies' the Taliban and ISI often employ, that really is not funny.
| 451 |
allegro Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:58:04pm |
re: #444 Dark_Falcon
I do agree with this part of what Goldberg said:
Mitt Romney is the classic 'Organization Man' and he is never going to convince anyone that he is something else. There's no shame in being such a person, but it does mean he needs to rely more calculations of interest and anger directed at Obama to win. An 'Org Man' simply is not going to make people enthusiastic.
His policy positions - whatever they might be today - are plenty to limit enthusiasm alone outside of his core of "have mores."
| 452 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:58:10pm |
re: #444 Dark_Falcon
I do agree with this part of what Goldberg said:
Mitt Romney is the classic 'Organization Man' and he is never going to convince anyone that he is something else. There's no shame in being such a person, but it does mean he needs to rely more calculations of interest and anger directed at Obama to win. An 'Org Man' simply is not going to make people enthusiastic.
That's an interesting point. He does seem much more of an administrator than a "leader".
| 453 |
jaunte Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:58:24pm |
re: #444 Dark_Falcon
I just don't think Romney's plan to improve the economy is going to work any better.
| 454 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:58:57pm |
re: #449 mattand
How many of them kids were on his lawn when he said this?
None. He lives in NYC, I don't think he has a lawn. ;)
| 455 |
darthstar Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:59:00pm |
re: #280 darthstar
Hey everyone...just stopped by to say you're all wrong.
Yes, you.
You too.
And especially you.
Have a good day. Might drop by again later if I feel like I wasn't understood clearly enough. Other than that, it's time to walk the dogs, go to the club, then go to my nephew's high school graduation (I hope he doesn't get really drunk and puke like I did at mine.)
Okay, okay...you're alright. But you're not all right. :)
Yeah, it's that knd of day. Gotta satisfy my inner asshole before I start hanging out with family.
Cheers.
| 456 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:59:12pm |
re: #450 Dark_Falcon
That ain't funny! If you know the 'collective responsibility policies' the Taliban and ISI often employ, that really is not funny.
You've captured the essence of wingnut humor.
| 457 |
jaunte Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:59:21pm |
RT @Wonkette: Why I Am Challenging Jonah Goldberg To A Fight For Charity, By Jamie Kilstein bit.ly/JY7ZsG
— allisonkilkenny (@allisonkilkenny) June 2, 2012
| 458 |
Mattand Sat, Jun 2, 2012 12:59:52pm |
re: #447 sattv4u2
How could I forget the puppies ,,,
Slightly OT: what is it with the multiple commas in all of your posts? Your messages are getting across, but it's really distracting.
| 459 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:00:18pm |
re: #450 Dark_Falcon
That ain't funny! If you know the 'collective responsibility policies' the Taliban and ISI often employ, that really is not funny.
pointing to the absurdity of the question that was asked ,, sorry ,, but too bad
| 460 |
jaunte Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:01:16pm |
re: #458 mattand
That's the traditional sattv4u2™ punctuation style.
| 461 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:01:21pm |
re: #458 mattand
Slightly OT: what is it with the multiple commas in all of your posts? Your messages are getting across, but it's really distracting.
I have a comma quotient. I have to use "x" amount per post or I lose them!
| 462 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:01:52pm |
re: #459 sattv4u2
pointing to the absurdity of the question that was asked ,, sorry ,, but too bad
See #437. The killing of school friends was implied in KT's comment. What's absurd in asking to clarify?
| 463 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:03:33pm |
re: #462 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
See #437. The killing of school friends was implied in KT's comment. What's absurd in asking to clarify?
Becuase KT really Really REALLY meant all of someones school friends should be killed EVERY LAST ONE OF EM!
yup,, thats what he meant!
| 464 |
MittDoesNotCompute Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:03:48pm |
re: #390 sattv4u2
After taking Nontroversy, please consult a physician if you experience
Gas with oily spotting, loose stools, and more frequent stools that may be hard to control."
"Sleepwalking, and eating or driving while not fully awake, with amnesia for the event, have been reported."
"Do not use if you are a woman."
"Do not use if you ara a man"
"Serious risks include decreased sweating."
"Vision changes, such as seeing a blue tinge to objects or having difficulty telling the difference between the colors blue and green." Also, "An erection that won't go away."
"Some patients tried to end their own lives. And some people have ended their own lives." (Hint: While Paxil also has been linked to an increase in suicidal thoughts in some children/teens, that's not what we're looking for here.)
"The most common side effects following injection include temporary eyelid droop and nausea."
"This product is harmful to humans if swallowed. Avoid contact with skin."
"[In a small number of people] your skin and the whites of your eyes turn yellow
"Side effects may include explosive flatulence, severe anal leakage, and death"
///
| 465 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:04:31pm |
re: #464 Gitarzan
"Side effects may include explosive flatulence, severe anal leakage, and death"
In that order?
| 466 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:04:52pm |
re: #457 jaunte
[Embedded content]
I've just lost a lot of respect for Wonkette. When I click on your link, I found this obnoxious screed against George W. Bush. It's a ugly attack based on Bush's official painting, of all things. It's a hateful reminder that BDS is still alive.
Note: Not attempt at equivalence was made in this post, so the Magical Balance Fairy was not summoned.
| 467 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:04:53pm |
re: #463 sattv4u2
Becuase KT really Really REALLY meant all of someones school friends should be killed EVERY LASY ONE OF EM!
yup,, thats what he meant!
He wrote: "No need. We have enough drones now.". So what exactly does this mean, if not "they should be droned instead of interrogated by Pakistani police"? Maybe you can explain, oh discerning one?
| 468 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:06:43pm |
re: #467 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
oh discerning one
Ohhhh,,, ain't that cute I have a pet name now!! Thanks, Schnookums!
| 469 |
jaunte Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:07:33pm |
re: #466 Dark_Falcon
Yeah, that's pretty dumb. I can't endorse a lot of what Wonkette posts.
| 470 |
darthstar Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:09:02pm |
re: #466 Dark_Falcon
I've just lost a lot of respect for Wonkette.
I'll bet they feel just awful about that.
| 471 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:09:49pm |
re: #468 sattv4u2
oh discerning one
Ohhh,,, ain't that cute I have a pet name now!! Thanks, Schnookums!
Um, no, it's not a name or a moniker. It's a sarcastic reference.
But thanks for showing you don't know what KT meant, yet still you know what he did not mean. (Hence, a "discerning one".)
| 472 |
Mattand Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:10:07pm |
re: #461 sattv4u2
I have a comma quotient. I have to use "x" amount per post or I lose them!
Whatever floats your style sheet, I guess. Your posts would look less internet-y if you refrained from going comma-crazy, though.
| 473 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:10:51pm |
re: #472 mattand
Whatever floats your style sheet, I guess. Your posts would look less internet-y if you refrained from going comma-crazy, though.
i'll,, work,,, on ,, it ,,
DAMN!
| 474 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:11:37pm |
re: #471 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
It's a sarcastic reference
hmmmm,,,,, (we may have a clue here as to your quetion!!)
| 475 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:12:41pm |
re: #471 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
It's a sarcastic reference
If there was only some way to, oh, i dunno,, HIGHLIGHT the clue!!
Damn ,, I can't think of anything
any ideas???
| 476 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:12:43pm |
re: #474 sattv4u2
It's a sarcastic reference
hmmm,,, (we may have a clue here as to your quetion!!)
If you want to go with the Limbaugh defense, you would better explain what exactly the joke is. Because I sure as heck don't see it.
| 477 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:13:05pm |
re: #476 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
If you want to go with the Limbaugh defense, you would better explain what exactly the joke is. Because I sure as heck don't see it.
shocka!
| 478 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:13:39pm |
re: #477 sattv4u2
shocka!
So you don't know what the joke is either, but still, etc. (as per above).
| 479 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:14:56pm |
re: #478 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
So you don't know what the joke is either, but still, etc. (as per above).
As long as you say/ think so, it must be true!
| 480 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:16:58pm |
re: #479 sattv4u2
As long as you say/ think so, it must be true!
Whatever you mean? If you knew, you would have posted the explanation, you haven't, so you don't.
| 481 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:18:52pm |
re: #480 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Whatever you mean? If you knew, you would have posted the explanation, you haven't, so you don't.
Because I do know means I HAVE to post the explanation? And because I didn't, proves I don't know?
Really??? REALLY!?!?!
| 482 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:19:21pm |
re: #481 sattv4u2
Because I do know means I HAVE to post the explanation? And because I didn't, proves I don't know?
Really??? REALLY!?!?!
Unless you're a troll, yes.
| 483 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:19:21pm |
re: #480 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
and btw ,, I already gave you the clue,,,, TWICE !
| 484 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:19:49pm |
re: #481 sattv4u2
See, I assume the better about you. Heh.
| 485 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:21:03pm |
re: #483 sattv4u2
and btw ,, I already gave you the clue,,, TWICE !
Assume that I'm very dumb and write it out in plain language. Please.
| 486 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:21:14pm |
re: #482 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
I'll give you the clue one more time. It may IT'S be hard to find, but A if you concentrate SARCASTIC and look hard REFERENCE enough, maybe,, MAYBE you'll find it
| 487 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:22:36pm |
re: #486 sattv4u2
Yes, you've already stated it three times. You haven't explained what it's a reference to. What is the joke, exactly?
| 488 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:23:24pm |
re: #485 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Assume that I'm very dumb and write it out in plain language. Please.
I can't, because I know you're not
but maybe you did stay at a Holiday Innn Express last night!!
NOW ,, if you want to PLAY dumb as to antagonize Kilgore and pretend you didn't know what he was doing, well then, thats a you problem, not a me/ KT problem
| 489 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:30:04pm |
re: #488 sattv4u2
Here's what I know: a) there is no relation between that terrorist's school friends and drone strikes;
b) KT is obsessed with drones; c) KT called the guys who've been let off in court right now and who may be innocent (or some of them may be), "terrorists" (apparently he would approve of droning them). So why would I assume that what he wrote is a joke, esp. if there is no apparent meaning to the alleged joke?
If it was a joke, it was a pretty stupid and meaningless one, and moreover, it would be sufficient to write in response to my question, "it's a joke, dummy", instead of engaging in drama about "creepy stalker files" and whatever.
| 490 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:32:13pm |
In a perpetual personal feud, Duelists generally don't menace anyone but each other, unless, of course, another Warrior foolishly gets between them. They may not even remember what started the fight, but not they cordially loathe one another and seize every to go at each other. When the other Warriors eventually weary of their endless kvetching the Duelists will be shouted down or Nanny will ban them. Even after getting the heave-ho from one forum, however, it is not unusual for them to seeking each other in other forums to renew their fight.
| 491 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:34:29pm |
re: #489 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
You left out the puppies!
| 492 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:35:16pm |
| 493 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:36:31pm |
re: #492 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
So you still don't know what the "joke" was about.
didn't we already do this??
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
| 494 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:36:59pm |
re: #493 sattv4u2
didn't we already do this??
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Sure, repeat as necessary.
| 495 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:37:32pm |
So I went to an auto auction last night
WHAT a waste of time
Now one vehicle had UNDER 160K miles on it
Not One !
| 496 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:37:57pm |
re: #494 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Sure, repeat as necessary.
Ask the same question, get the same answer
As necessary!
| 497 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:39:50pm |
re: #496 sattv4u2
Ask the same question, get the same answer
As necessary!
Sure, but you never answered my question as to the meaning of that comment. So either you don't know or you be trollin'.
| 498 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:41:50pm |
re: #497 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Sure, but you never answered my question as to the meaning of that comment. So either you don't know or you be trollin'.
i'll take door # 3 Mr Barker
(oh ,, wait this isn't The Price is Right??)
| 499 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:43:12pm |
re: #498 sattv4u2
i'll take door # 3 Mr Barker
(oh ,, wait this isn't The Price is Right??)
You can engage in your verbiage further, but the comment stands unexplained.
| 500 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:43:34pm |
| 501 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:46:37pm |
| 502 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:47:46pm |
| 503 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:48:26pm |
| 504 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:48:49pm |
re: #502 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Also, I did not ask for a translation of *your* comment. Obviously. We're talking about the comment that started the brouhaha.
I never stated otherwise
| 505 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:49:45pm |
re: #503 sattv4u2
Is that a trick question?
You said there are more options beyond simply not knowing what KT meant and knowing, but not explaining for the purposes of trolling me. What are those options?
| 506 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:51:00pm |
Well, I did,, except I didn't!
What I mean is, the "translation" I did provide in 500 was about my 498,, but all others were in reference to the "brouhaha" comment
| 507 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:51:27pm |
re: #506 sattv4u2
OK.
| 508 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:54:02pm |
re: #505 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
either you don't know or you be trollin'.
Knowing and NOT trolling.
Door # 3
| 509 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:56:02pm |
and BTW ,,, it's not like I haven't told you
THREE times now,, VIA A HINT!!
REMEMBER!?!?
| 510 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:59:57pm |
re: #508 sattv4u2
either you don't know or you be trollin'.
Knowing and NOT trolling.
Door # 3
Knowing and not posting, while continuing this conversation is exactly trolling.
re: #509 sattv4u2
and BTW ,,, it's not like I haven't told you
THREE times now,, VIA A HINT!!
REMEMBER!?!?
Um, no. You claim that it's a sarcastic reference, but you've never explained how so and to what.
| 511 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 2, 2012 2:09:35pm |
re: #510 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
while continuing this conversation is exactly trolling
Am i talking to myself??
but you've never explained how so and to what.
How? umm,, SARCASM,,, Too,, umm,,, His commnet was a response to YOUR comment!! (odd, how that works, huh)
| 512 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jun 2, 2012 2:13:28pm |
re: #511 sattv4u2
while continuing this conversation is exactly trolling
Am i talking to myself??
but you've never explained how so and to what.
How? umm,, SARCASM,,, Too,, umm,,, His commnet was a response to YOUR comment!! (odd, how that works, huh)
Yes, you've repeated it for the 4th time now. You've never explained how what he wrote is logically connected to what I wrote in a "sarcastic" way. For sarcasm to work there has to be a relation of some sort. What was the point of the alleged sarcasm in this instance?
| 513 |
b_sharp Sat, Jun 2, 2012 2:42:49pm |
re: #466 Dark_Falcon
I've just lost a lot of respect for Wonkette. When I click on your link, I found this obnoxious screed against George W. Bush. It's a ugly attack based on Bush's official painting, of all things. It's a hateful reminder that BDS is still alive.
Note: Not attempt at equivalence was made in this post, so the Magical Balance Fairy was not summoned.
It was a child saying childish things.
| 514 |
palomino Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:01:25pm |
re: #466 Dark_Falcon
I've just lost a lot of respect for Wonkette. When I click on your link, I found this obnoxious screed against George W. Bush. It's a ugly attack based on Bush's official painting, of all things. It's a hateful reminder that BDS is still alive.
Note: Not attempt at equivalence was made in this post, so the Magical Balance Fairy was not summoned.
Do you have any sense of humor? If you're taking Wonkette seriously, then your synapses are misfiring. The article was a parody along the lines of what Colbert and Stewart do.
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