Birther Whacko Orly Taitz Will Not Be a Senator

Crazy lady loses

WingnutsJune 2012 • Views: 28,803

Scott Walker may have survived the recall in Wisconsin, but in California’s first-ever open primary election, loony Birther lady Orly Taitz’s challenge to Sen. Dianne Feinstein went down in flames.

The scary part, though, is that despite being a certified Grade A crackpot, Taitz convinced at least 113,000 California right wingers (yes, we have them) to vote for her.

(Remember, though: according to breitbart.com’s Dana Loesch, there are no Birthers on the right.)

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109 comments

brennant Wed, Jun 6, 2012 9:53:26am

O-RLY?

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 9:59:18am

I blame Obama.

Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 6, 2012 9:59:39am

Somebody at work posting from an Official Corporate Twitter Account tweeted from the airport: "Expedited screening, FTW"

BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:00:25am

re: #2 Kragar

I blame Obama.

This is good news for John McCain! /

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:01:29am

re: #4 Millicent Islam

This is good news for John McCain! /

I have it on good authority that McCain never really wanted to win the Presidency. Rush told me.

It makes sense to me. Why else would he have picked Palin?

BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:03:27am

re: #5 Kragar

Why else would he have picked Palin?

Overwhelming contempt for the process and the People?

lawhawk Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:05:23am

The GOP dodged a big bullet when Taitz didn't win, though her showing (4th after Feinstein/5th overall) indicates that there's plenty of support for birthers from the right.

Instead, Feinstein will be facing off against Elizabeth Emken.

Flounder Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:05:34am

That pic scares me

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:05:38am

113,000 people thought this woman was worthy of the Senate.

kirkspencer Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:07:02am

re: #9 HappyWarrior

113,000 people thought this woman was worthy of the Senate.

In some ways worse, over 3% of that voting population thought this woman was worthy of the Senate.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:08:15am

re: #10 kirkspencer

In some ways worse, over 3% of that voting population thought this woman was worthy of the Senate.

Scary.

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:09:05am

Do not the clinically insane deserve representation in our society as well?

Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:09:09am

re: #9 HappyWarrior

113,000 people thought this woman was worthy of the Senate.

This is California.

113,000 is 3% of the population.

You could probably find a larger percent that thinks that fluoride in the water is a plot.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:10:06am

re: #13 Mostly sane, most of the time.

This is California.

113,000 is 3% of the population.

You could probably find a larger percent that thinks that fluoride in the water is a plot.

113,000 or 3% is still a lot of people even for a big state.

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:10:40am

Perhaps Bryan Fischer can guide us thru these dark times...

Fischer: If Gays Aren't Discriminated Against, Christians Will Be

OK, I guess he can't.

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:11:30am

re: #14 HappyWarrior

113,000 or 3% is still a lot of people even for a big state.

I blame Orange County.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:11:35am

re: #15 Kragar

Perhaps Bryan Fischer can guide us thru these dark times...

Fischer: If Gays Aren't Discriminated Against, Christians Will Be

OK, I guess he can't.

Paranoia strikes deep again with Captain Dipshit.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:11:59am

re: #16 Kragar

I blame Orange County.

The OC was a Bircher enclave back in the day wasn't it?

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:15:28am

Ray Bradbury has passed away.

I got to meet him once at a book signing when I was in HS. He was one of the authors who really got me hooked on science fiction.

TedStriker Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:15:54am

re: #13 Mostly sane, most of the time.

This is California.

113,000 is 3% of the population.

You could probably find a larger percent that thinks that fluoride in the water is a plot.

I'm sure there's a lot of overlap between the two groups of nutjobs...

simoom Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:18:13am

The Romney campaign may want to reign this guy in as mainstream, national Republicans depend on getting some fraction of the union vote, so they usually avoid letting slip direct, full on, anti-union rhetoric:

Pack it in, Unions. It's over.
— Brett Doster (@BrettDoster) June 6, 2012

Brett Doster
@BrettDoster
Florida Senior Advisor, Romney for President; President, Front Line Strategies; Partner, the Revolution Agency
Tallahassee, FL · [Link: www.flstrategies.com...]

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:19:59am

re: #21 simoom

The Romney campaign may want to reign this guy in as mainstream, national Republicans depend on getting some fraction of the union vote, so they usually avoid letting slip direct, full on, anti-union rhetoric:

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Not very smart is he. At least he's honest though.

The Gender Ambiguity of a Flea Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:20:12am

re: #15 Kragar

Perhaps Bryan Fischer can guide us thru these dark times...

Fischer: If Gays Aren't Discriminated Against, Christians Will Be

OK, I guess he can't.

Of course, it goes unsaid that any Christian that disagrees with Bryan Fischer should also be discriminated against because they're not a Real True Christian(TM).

Dostoyevsky's The Grand Inquisitor is being played out in real time.

Shiplord Kirel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:21:50am

Cal is basically a blue state but its wingnuts are among the craziest and most aggressive of the entire species. Paulites, neo-confederates, creationists, isolationists, paranoid conspiracy kooks, and outright fascists all have their own flourishing compartments on the GOP crazy train.

For all I know there might even be small bands of Scoop Jackson style rational Republicans who have escaped extinction, perhaps by taking refuge with the Sasquatch in the high Sierra. I'll have to consult the anthropological literature and see if there have been any recent sightings.

Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:23:07am

re: #24 Shiplord Kirel

Cal is basically a blue state but its wingnuts are among the craziest and most aggressive of the entire species. Paulites, neo-confederates, creationists, isolationists, paranoid conspiracy kooks, and outright fascists all have their own flourishing compartments on the GOP crazy train.

For all I know there might even be small bands of Scoop Jackson style rational Republicans who have escaped extinction, perhaps by taking refuge with the Sasquatch in the high Sierra. I'll have to consult the anthropological literature and see if there have been any recent sightings.

Scoop Jackson was a Democrat, IIRC.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:23:35am

re: #25 Learned Mother of Zion

Scoop Jackson was a Democrat, IIRC.

He was, yes.

Mattand Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:25:42am

re: #15 Kragar

Perhaps Bryan Fischer can guide us thru these dark times...

Fischer: If Gays Aren't Discriminated Against, Christians Will Be

OK, I guess he can't.

If a Christian thinks like this fuckwad, they both deserve to be discriminated against.

What, me worry? Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:26:41am

re: #10 kirkspencer

In some ways worse, over 3% of that voting population thought this woman was worthy of the Senate.

Not necessarily. I saw on Twitter that people were going to vote for her as a joke. What gets me is that people would use democracy as a joke ?? The very thing they're killing themselves for in the Middle East. The very thing that countless have died for in THIS country, but folks think it's some kind of game. Sick F*s.

b_sharp Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:27:25am

My Orly Taitz bobble-head doll has a sad on.

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:27:41am

That sound you hear is a GOP talking point crashing and burning.

CNN On Solyndra Loan: Bush Started It, There’s No Evidence of Wrongdoing, And Romney’s Attacks Are Made Up

CNN has two dynamite pieces on Solyndra, “Romney wrong on Solyndra facts” and “Seven things you should know about Solyndra.”

The first one, by Steve Hargreaves of CNN Money, ends:

It’s one thing to spin something to one’s advantage. It’s another to simply make things up to make the other guy look bad. Romney’s Solyndra speech was an example of the latter. Disgraceful.

Hargreaves shows that Mitt Romney’s key claim — “An independent inspector general looked at this investment and concluded that the Administration had steered money to friends and family and campaign contributors” — has no basis in fact.

The second piece, also by Hargreaves, lists 7 key facts:

1. It was started by Bush: The DOE loan program that funded Solyndra was actually started by President Bush in 2005. It was intended to provide government support for “innovative technologies”….

More at the link

What, me worry? Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:31:23am

re: #29 b_sharp

My Orly Taitz bobble-head doll has a sad on.

The dentist from hell.

Youtube Video

dragonfire1981 Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:31:48am

Get your ass to Mars...and stay there!

BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:32:24am

re: #31 What, me worry?

The dentist from hell.

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heh. Steve Martin was great in that.

b_sharp Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:32:33am

re: #30 Kragar

That sound you here is a GOP talking point crashing and burning.

CNN On Solyndra Loan: Bush Started It, There’s No Evidence of Wrongdoing, And Romney’s Attacks Are Made Up

More at the link

Yes, but!

Bush is an old Republican.
The new Republicans, or Neo-Republicans if you grok, would never do anything like that.

On the gripping hand, this is something the Democrats would have done had they been in power, so by proxy, Obama is at fault.

dragonfire1981 Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:32:44am

re: #33 Millicent Islam

heh. Steve Martin was great in that.

Steve Martin is usually great period.

b_sharp Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:34:32am

re: #35 dragonfire1981

Steve Martin is usually great period.

We'll only know for sure how good of an actor Steve is when he does a zombie movie, as the head zombie.

Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:35:50am

re: #34 b_sharp

Yes, but!

Bush is an old Republican.
The new Republicans, or Neo-Republicans if you grok, would never do anything like that.

On the gripping hand, this is something the Democrats would have done had they been in power, so by proxy, Obama is at fault.

I think the current GOP is all gripping hands, all the way down.
//

NJDhockeyfan Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:36:26am

re: #35 dragonfire1981

Steve Martin is usually great period.

He's on tour with his band The Steep Canyon Rangers. I just missed him playing here on Saturday. I would have liked to have seen it.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:36:32am

Call me unsurprised that Romney is lying about Solyandra.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:37:18am

Steve Martin is cool. Comedian, musician, novelist, etc. True renaissance man.

Varek Raith Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:37:51am

Image: Orly.jpg

b_sharp Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:38:06am

So, Wisconsin went full Re&$*%, did it?

37% of union families voted for him?

Are you people down there fucking nuts?

I guess today was a bad day to give up jumping out of planes without a parachute.

b_sharp Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:39:08am

Excuse me for a minute, I have to go terrorize a 7 legged wolf spider.

Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:39:36am

re: #30 Kragar

That sound you hear is a GOP talking point crashing and burning.

CNN On Solyndra Loan: Bush Started It, There’s No Evidence of Wrongdoing, And Romney’s Attacks Are Made Up

More at the link

Not to mention Romney's owm $1million dollar loan guarantee to a Massachusetts solar firm that also went belly up...

b_sharp Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:41:48am

Oh, she's heading for the water cooler.
She knew I was there so she scuttled into the dark where I can't see her.

She didn't even ask for my birth certificate.

BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:42:36am

re: #45 b_sharp

Oh, she's heading for the water cooler.
She knew I was there so she scuttled into the dark where I can't see her.

She didn't even ask for my birth certificate.

Orly Taitz is behind your water cooler?

Interesting Times Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:42:37am

What the fucking-fuckity-flippity fuck?!

Per AFL-CIO pol, approx 10% of WI union members saw Walker as divisive & favoring the wealthy over working ppl, voted for him anyway
— Molly Ball (@mollyesque) June 6, 2012

The only explanation I can possibly think of is that these are incumbent-loving "devil you know" types. Or they have a history of severe head trauma o_O

Varek Raith Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:42:45am

re: #19 Kragar

Ray Bradbury has passed away.

I got to meet him once at a book signing when I was in HS. He was one of the authors who really got me hooked on science fiction.

b_sharp Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:44:13am

re: #46 Millicent Islam

Orly Taitz is behind your water cooler?

I'll never tell.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:44:27am

re: #47 Interesting Times

What the fucking-fuckity-flippity fuck?!

[Embedded content] The only explanation I can possibly think of is that these are incumbent-loving "devil you know" types. Or they have a history of severe head trauma o_O

Why the hell does anyone vote like that? I understand opposing the recall on principle but voting for someone who you know sucks? Yikes.

Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:47:33am

re: #50 HappyWarrior

Why the hell does anyone vote like that? I understand opposing the recall on principle but voting for someone who you know sucks? Yikes.

I can at least understand people going with the principle of "it will be time to vote his ass out of office when his term is up."

lawhawk Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:47:57am

re: #47 Interesting Times

Or there's a simpler explanation - as per exit polling - they simply didn't think recall was called for over a policy difference, even if the policy changes are anti-union and anti-worker.

And just think what would happen if it had succeeded and a Democrat took over; the GOP would gin up a recall at the first chance it got (say when that Democrat moved to overturn Walker's decisions).

Recall makes tremendous sense if the person engaged in criminal activities or other malfeasance. It has the potential to cause significant problems (and costs) if used over policy disputes.

And now that the recall is done with, this gives Walker additional money and power going into his next scheduled election - something that might not have happened if the Democrats held off on a recall. They've energized the GOP there by going through with the recall. Perhaps it would have been better to let him play out the term, and beat him in the next gubernatorial general election.

b_sharp Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:49:01am

re: #44 Expand Your Ground

Not to mention Romney's owm $1million dollar loan guarantee to a Massachusetts solar firm that also went belly up...

$1 million is not the same as $535 billion. Oops, sorry, $535 million.

I'm not sure where the break point is but I do know it's higher than Romney's ~~gift~~ subsidy amount, whatever that happens to be.

Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:51:44am

re: #53 b_sharp

$1 million is not the same as $535 billion. Oops, sorry, $535 million.

I'm not sure where the break point is but I do know it's higher than Romney's ~~gift~~ subsidy amount, whatever that happens to be.

There is also a difference in volume between a state and a federally-funded program. But if its a matter of "free market principles", then the sum is irrelevant

Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:52:12am

Dweeb, Doofus, Dumbass still not an anti-Semite, but he is a hateful Douche.

Obama has time 2 meet with rightwing Orthodox Jews twice in a week but no time 4 Wisconsin. Nuts. jta.org/news/article/2...
— MJ Rosenberg (@MJayRosenberg) June 6, 2012

Reminds me of GOP James Baker "F&$k the Jews, they don't vote for us anyway."

A Man for all Seasons Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:52:23am

re: #42 b_sharp

So, Wisconsin went full Re&$*%, did it?

37% of union families voted for him?

Are you people down there fucking nuts?

I guess today was a bad day to give up jumping out of planes without a parachute.

I got home late last night and was shocked that the race wasn't even close..Walker won by a larger margin than before...
So I've been flipping channels to see how this is being spun by both sides..We have an interesting dynamic going on here.
The left is claiming they only lost because they were out spent 8 to 1.
Weak spin if you ask me...Because I'm a registered Dem and a union member for 20 years I think I have the right to say this.
Don't pick a fucking fight over policy and try to recall a Gov for only the 3rd time in US History and then cry at the end you didn't have enough money. Pathetic spin.
/But other than that how is everyone? Man I've got a funny story to tell about last night in the OT Section

lawhawk Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:54:25am

re: #53 b_sharp

The size of the federal incentives might be different in terms of scale, but Romney approved of incentives for a solar-power company that will be going belly up just as surely as Obama approved incentives for a solar power company that also went belly up.

Both were intent upon providing incentives for business/industry in the hopes it would generate jobs, tech, and grow the economy. Those enterprises failed, and while Romney attacks Obama incessantly about Solyndra, the same criticisms should apply to Romney's actions. After all, he approved of the same kinds of incentives to the Mass. company.

What's also lost is that had these companies succeeded, they would have generated more jobs and tech.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:54:26am

Since we are discussing conspiracy theories, my kids like this one:

[Link: iwastesomuchtime.com...]

Jack Burton Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:56:42am

I was so tempted to vote for O RLY just for the extreme comedy that would ensue when she had to debate Feinstein for the general.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:57:46am

re: #56 HoosierHoops

I got home late last night and was shocked that the race wasn't even close..Walker won by a larger margin than before...
So I've been flipping channels to see how this is being spun by both sides..We have an interesting dynamic going on here.
The left is claiming they only lost because they were out spent 8 to 1.
Weak spin if you ask me...Because I'm a registered Dem and a union member for 20 years I think I have the right to say this.
Don't pick a fucking fight over policy and try to recall a Gov for only the 3rd time in US History and then cry at the end you didn't have enough money. Pathetic spin.
/But other than that how is everyone? Man I've got a funny story to tell about last night in the OT Section

Have to agree there Hoops. If you're going to do a recall, get ready to fight a war. Don't get killed in the fundraising efforts and then say woe is me. Anyhow that aside, life is good here. Got to watch the kid brother pitch last night. Poor kid works hard but he's got to be more stoic on the mound.

lawhawk Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:01:04am

re: #52 lawhawk

And I think that's the reasoning that Obama held back from politicking on behalf of the WI Democrats. He might have seen that very kind of scenario playing out and decided that fighting for the general election makes more sense than diverting resources to the recall.

Just think what would have happened if the recall didn't occur. The state would not be in the conversation, talk would be about the general election in November, and Democrats would be able to work on a coherent strategy to win back the legislature and the governorship from Walker. Instead, Walker gets to crow about a renewed mandate to lay in to the unions and cut benefits and other services to Wisconsin residents in the name of cutting the budget. All the benefits inure to Walker and the GOP (particularly in how they can spin this as yet another rebuke of unions, Obama, Democratic party economic policies, and oh, Obama - even as Obama stayed largely away from the recall).

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:04:00am

I think Obama and the national party figured a few things: One, they want to retain Wisconsin in the general election, two there's a competitive senate race there, and three there are a couple competitive congressional ones as well. A recall is always risky. I had no idea there were only three in history? What is the other one if anyone knows? I remember the California one that got Arnold into the mansion in California but other than that I don't remember any other one perhaps because it was before I was born.

lawhawk Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:05:49am

re: #62 HappyWarrior

Here:

The only two previous recall efforts against sitting governors were Lynn Frazier in North Dakota in 1921 and Gray Davis in California in 2003. Both of those governors lost.

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:06:58am

Barton: 'It Makes Perfect Sense' that People are on Welfare Because they are not Reading the Bible

Wouldn't it be interesting to do a study between those that are on welfare and see how much and how often they read the Bible. You know, if Booker T. Washington is right that Christianity and reading the Bible increases your desires and therefore your ability for hard work; if we take that as an axiom, does that mean that the people who are getting government assistance spend nearly no time in the Bible, therefore have no desire, and therefore no ability for hard work? I could go a lot of places with this. I would love to see this proven out in some kind of sociological study, but it makes perfect sense.

Youtube Video

Varek Raith Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:09:37am

re: #64 Kragar

Barton: 'It Makes Perfect Sense' that People are on Welfare Because they are not Reading the Bible

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I'm not on welfare and I don't read the Bible.
Your argument is invalid.

Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:10:09am

It seems "gloating" is not just a RW trait:

Neither AIPAC nor Obama could save Muslim baiter, Israel Firster, Steve Rothman in NJ. Praise the Lord. mjayrosenberg.com/2012/06/06/pas...
— MJ Rosenberg (@MJayRosenberg) June 6, 2012

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:11:37am

re: #65 Varek Raith

I'm not on welfare and I don't read the Bible.
Your argument is invalid.

Dude this is the same guy who thinks John Calvin matters more than Thomas Jefferson.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:11:56am

re: #63 lawhawk

Here:

And that explains it, thanks.

Eclectic Infidel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:12:25am

And now we know how many certifiable right-wing kooks live in California.

dragonath Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:15:38am

That picture makes Orly Taitz look like a Rocky Horror Picture Show stand-in.

Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:18:03am

re: #70 Be Zorch, Daddio

That picture makes Orly Taitz look like a Rocky Horror Picture Show stand-in.

I was thinking Little Shop of Horrors. I wonder if her houseplants give her political advice.

lawhawk Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:18:38am

re: #66 Learned Mother of Zion

He has no clue about the district and its geographical/sociopolitical makeup. I am in Rothman's old district - but redistricting forced him to either run against Pascrell or Republican Scott Garrett. He would have had no chance against Garrett - the district leans too Republican and Pascrell retained more of his district in the redistricting than Rothman so Pascrell had the home-field advantage. Rothman was odd-man out when they did the redistricting earlier this year. It had nothing to do with his politics or his stance on Israel and everything to do with the fact that the folks in charge of redistricting wanted to keep as many safe for the incumbent districts as possible - rather than open up the possibility that there'd be turnover and more opportunties for a shakeup in party politics here.

Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:20:03am

re: #72 lawhawk

He has no clue about the district and its geographical/sociopolitical makeup. I am in Rothman's old district - but redistricting forced him to either run against Pascrell or Republican Scott Garrett. He would have had no chance against Garrett - the district leans too Republican and Pascrell retained more of his district in the redistricting than Rothman so Pascrell had the home-field advantage. Rothman was odd-man out when they did the redistricting earlier this year. It had nothing to do with his politics or his stance on Israel and everything to do with the fact that the folks in charge of redistricting wanted to keep as many safe for the incumbent districts as possible - rather than open up the possibility that there'd be turnover and more opportunties for a shakeup in party politics here.

Pascrell will run against Shmuley Boteach in the general election.

Eclectic Infidel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:21:16am

re: #15 Kragar

In a similar vein:

Hagee Tells Atheists to Leave the Country; They Are Not Wanted and Won't Be Missed

allegro Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:21:39am

re: #73 Learned Mother of Zion

Shmuley Boteach

That's really someone's name? =)

Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:21:44am

re: #72 lawhawk

I don't know why MJ thinks of this as the "fall of AIPAC" other than wishful thinking. Also, he's pissed that Obama doesn't agree with him that Orthodox Jews should be excluded from public discourse.

Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:22:04am

re: #75 allegro

That's really someone's name? =)

What's wrong with it?

allegro Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:22:39am

re: #77 Learned Mother of Zion

What's wrong with it?

I just find it odd and amusing.

Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:23:35am

re: #78 allegro

I just find it odd and amusing.

My grandson's name is Shmuley.

Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:25:16am

re: #64 Kragar

Barton: 'It Makes Perfect Sense' that People are on Welfare Because they are not Reading the Bible

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Calvinism revisited.

Wealth as an outward sign of inner grace. Poverty as a sign of moral turpitude.

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:25:58am

re: #80 Expand Your Ground

Calvinism revisited.

Wealth as an outward sign of inner grace. Poverty as a sign of moral turpitude.

That Jesus guy must have sucked.

Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:26:42am

re: #81 Kragar

That Jesus guy must have sucked.

Camels were a lot smaller then, and needles had really big eyes, too...

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:27:22am

re: #77 Learned Mother of Zion

Is "Boteach" pronounced as Boh-teh-AKH?

Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:27:26am

re: #79 Learned Mother of Zion

My grandson's name is Shmuley.

You probably have every possible Jewish name covered in your grandsons.

My mother doesn't have a lot of "English" names left for grandsons.

Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:28:12am

re: #83 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

Is "Boteach" pronounced as Boh-teh-AKH?

It's Boh-TAY-akh, not Bo-TEECH.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:28:50am

I don't know who said it but I always liked this quote, I believe it's by a South American priest but the quote is basically- "When I fed the poor, they called me a saint. When I asked why are the poor in fact poor, they called me a communist." It's quite true. As a society,we praise and rightfully so those who help the less fortunate but we're skeptical of those who ask why.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:28:53am

re: #85 Learned Mother of Zion

It's Boh-TAY-akh, not Bo-TEECH.

Yeah, I thought that may be a source of allegro's amusement ;)

lawhawk Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:29:43am

re: #73 Learned Mother of Zion

Yeah, based on the district demographics and interests, Pascrell holds an advantage - particularly in Passaic County.

Boteach may have name recognition for his books and media presence, but I don't know if anyone knows what he's about politically.

Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:29:54am

re: #86 HappyWarrior

I don't know who said it but I always liked this quote, I believe it's by a South American priest but the quote is basically- "When I fed the poor, they called me a saint. When I asked why are the poor in fact poor, they called me a communist." It's quite true. As a society,we praise and rightfully so those who help the less fortunate but we're skeptical of those who ask why.

That sums up the difference between a Catholic missionary and a Revolution Theologist.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:31:07am

re: #89 Expand Your Ground

That sums up the difference between a Catholic missionary and a Revolution Theologist.

Indeed.

Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:31:08am

re: #84 Mostly sane, most of the time.

You probably have every possible Jewish name covered in your grandsons.

My mother doesn't have a lot of "English" names left for grandsons.

Actually there are a lot of duplicate names, since we name after deceased loved ones and rabbinical leaders.

5 Sarah's
3 Menachem's
3 Pinchas's
4 Moussiya's
2 Israel's
2 Schneur's

leftynyc Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:32:05am

re: #59 ArchangelMichael

I was so tempted to vote for O RLY just for the extreme comedy that would ensue when she had to debate Feinstein for the general.

I wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of her 100K+ votes came from people thinking the same thing.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:32:42am

Actually there are a lot of duplicate names, since we name after deceased loved ones and rabbinical leaders.
5 Sarah's
3 Menachem's
3 Pinchas's
4 Moussiya's
2 Israel's
2 Schneur's

My husband won't do repeats, so no Rachels, no Williams, no Lauras. Middle names are okay.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:34:09am

re: #93 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Re: gate - it's a legend.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:37:10am

re: #94 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

Point being that wealth can be a sign of inner grace, and poverty a sign of a sinful life, but the Bible is full of examples to the contrary.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:37:17am

We do a lot of repeats-
Johns
Kathryn(all of them go by Katie)
Kelly
Thomas
Not too many juniors though.

Political Atheist Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:38:20am

I am not a fan of Feinstein at all. That having been said, we need a far more credible contender, a person experienced and smart. That ain't Orly.

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:40:56am

re: #97 Daniel Ballard

I am not a fan of Feinstein at all. That having been said, we need a far more credible contender, a person experienced and smart. That ain't Orly.

You're just saying that because she's insane.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:44:11am

re: #96 HappyWarrior

We do a lot of repeats-
Johns
Kathryn(all of them go by Katie)
Kelly
Thomas
Not too many juniors though.

We have three Kate/Katherines.

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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:45:31am

re: #99 Mostly sane, most of the time.

We have three Kate/Katherines.

Kathryn was my grandmother. Always liked the name.

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Political Atheist Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:46:49am

re: #98 Kragar

You're just saying that because she's insane.

Orly or Diane?

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Eventual Carrion Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:47:02am

re: #86 HappyWarrior

I don't know who said it but I always liked this quote, I believe it's by a South American priest but the quote is basically- "When I fed the poor, they called me a saint. When I asked why are the poor in fact poor, they called me a communist." It's quite true. As a society,we praise and rightfully so those who help the less fortunate but we're skeptical of those who ask why.

From the song "The Rebel Jesus":

We guard our world with locks and guns
And we guard our fine possessions
And once a year when christmas comes
We give to our relations
And perhaps we give a little to the poor
If the generosity should seize us
But if any one of us should interfere
In the business of why they are poor
They get the same as the rebel jesus

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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:47:05am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Kathryn was my grandmother. Always liked the name.

My favorite sister was a Kathryn, too. Named a daughter after her, sort of: Rhiona, a Gaelic variant of "Catriona"

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dragonath Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:51:13am

re: #102 RayFerd

Hey, wait! That's not a certified Hillsongs™ song of worship. Heresy!

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Eventual Carrion Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:56:09am

re: #104 Be Zorch, Daddio

Hey, wait! That's not a certified Hillsongs™ song of worship. Heresy!

Go search up the rest of the words to the song :-)

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Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:01:17pm

The worst night on cable news
I finally got around to watching the Ed Schultz clip from last night. It still seems strange to me what we now consider journalism.

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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:06:46pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

The worst night on cable news
I finally got around to watching the Ed Schultz clip from last night. It still seems strange to me what we now consider journalism.

A natural byproduct of a media that relies on sensationalism rather than news.It's how people like Hannity and Schultz have jobs.

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Origuy Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:47:35pm

Orly got 6.1% of the vote in Orange County. She did relatively well in some of the Central Valley counties, too (4-6%.)

[Link: vote.sos.ca.gov...]

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Patricia Kayden Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:08:12am

So sad for Taitz. Perhaps she can go back to Russia or wherever the hell she's from. Always find it strange that she tries to "other" Obama when she herself is an "other".

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