#Twitchy.com Says 'Liberals' Are Posting Death Threats on Twitter

#Twitchy.com Says ‘Liberals’ Are Posting Death Threats on Twitter

Unsubtle race-baiting from Michelle Malkin’s far right fake news site

WingnutsJune 2012 • Views: 30,932

twitchy.com, Michelle Malkin’s fake right wing news site, has developed a great formula for firing up the wingnut blogosphere: they search Twitter for random nasty comments about conservatives, then label the tweeters “libs” and repost the tweets, leading to a right wing pile-on and rage-gasm.

Today’s case in point: “Kill Scott Walker”: Angry Libs Flood Twitter With Death Threats After Wisconsin Recall Defeat | Twitchy.

Tonight, liberal Twitter users are openly advocating the assassination of Gov. Scott Walker…

They certainly did find some death threats, which, as anyone who uses Twitter knows, is about as unusual as sand on a beach. Oddly enough, almost all of the people singled out by twitchy.com are African Americans.

What makes these tweeters “liberal,” though? I clicked through to some of their profiles and checked out their tweets, and found no real evidence that they’re “libs” or involved in liberal politics — but plenty of evidence that the people who post death threats also post lots of other freaky, nasty comments. Which is, you know, a big shock, if you’re from twitchy.com.

Twitchy’s latest exercise in paranoia was immediately parroted in unison by many right wing blogs, because that’s how they roll. The most ludicrous of these comes from breitbart.com editor John Nolte: ‘KILL SCOTT WALKER’: LEFT UNLEASHES DEATH THREATS.

Nolte finds a way to bring President Obama into it, of course:

We all know that the same president who intentionally ignited a racial firestorm around the shooting of Trayvon Martin by a Hispanic Democrat will never call for calm here, so let’s pray that Governor Walker, Lt. Governor Kleefisch, and those around them, take these threats seriously.

If past is prologue, these threats are no laughing matter.

If past is prologue, John Nolte is the last person who should be condemning others for death threats. See:

Breitbart Editor John Nolte About HBO ‘Stage Mom:’ ‘She Should Be Murdered’

Breitbart Editor John Nolte: ‘Teachers Who Take Kids to Protests Should Be Murdered’

Of course, it’s not unusual at all to see death threats and calls for violence in the comments at Breitbart.com, and the people who post this garbage are definitely right wingers. For just a few examples:

Yet Another Deluge of Racist Hatred and Calls for Genocide at Breitbart.com

UPDATE at 6/6/12 12:26:40 pm

Meanwhile, the comments from right wingers on twitchy.com’s own post about horrible “liberal death threats” are chock full of rage, overt racism, violent fantasies, and eliminationist rhetoric. A few examples (h/t: iceweasel):

bisquitbrain: It’s been going on longer than most on this blog have been alive. Nobody would believe you 25 years ago that it was a rapidly growing problem. Now it’s full grown and like a weed it will spring back up every time you whack it off. The roots must be dug out. That will take thirty years at the common rate of birth and death if 100% eradication is begun and that’s not possible without civil war.

[…]

How right you are - things will go wild when Obama is defeated - let’s make the defeat happen - it will get hot and I hope hot enough to cleanse this nation.

[…]

I worry about Mitt. I would not want to be the guy who beats BO. I remember when my kids were little, they were the most cranky before their nap. I think the unions and thugs are going to need a nap.

[…]

Yes, a dirt nap.

[…]

Some call it a riot. I like to refer to it as a ‘target rich environment.’

[…]

You are so right, Art. Two years ago I purchased a Sprinfield .40 cal. and my CHL, just in case. I hope to never need it but I certainly will if I have to. As the kids today would say…”Don’t start nothin’, won’t be nothin’.”

[…]

cbpelto: do not attend ANY gunfight with a handgun at all. Best is an AR-15 or an AK47 or AK74..keep the hand gun on you for a last resort option, only if your primary semi auto rifle fails

[…]

Hardwurkindaddy: Stay locked and loaded my friend. Myself, i have a few things they would have to dodge if they come at my family and I, german shepherds are known for going straight for the throats and I have 2 very big ones. 1/2 my family carries(the others are to young to carry) and these punks would have a little bit of a war on their hands should they come after us.

[…]

Touch any conservative with harm, and trust it will be the very last thing you ignorant liberal free loaders will ever do in this plain of existence.

Your disgusting, human imitating, mind swelling viral infections. Our patience and tolerance does indeed have a limit and you vile sore losing homonids are fastly approaching that limit. As we tire of your racist hypocrisies and your inability to think seperate of the dark princes collective.

Your just souless copies of what looks to be human but are actually just reused reprinted doubles on Charlie Rangels stationary.

Karma is a b!%ch and all of you libby reprints will be consumed and crushed by your own vile stank.

Purge liberalism now and forever. Pigs!!

[…]

Has anybody noticed the pictures of these douchebags tweeting the threats? Wonder where our welfare is being spent?

[…]

Diversity is our strength .. yeah .. sure. The bloody simians can’t even speak English yet they live in the United States. I am so sick of negrish.

[…]

These apes will go nowhere in life but prison…and by the look of it, prison life starts next week for the ‘groid.
LoL. good riddance.

[…]

Folks, when Zimmerman is acquitted or hung jury ‘Obama’s sons’ will riot. Be prepared to protect your neighborhoods! Form citizen defense squads and practice.
Don’t be the scared cracker that is dragged out your car and savaged by the feral animals called Obama voters!

[…]

You notice that most of these brainless morons are Obama supporters? The race war has started folks. Arm yourself legally and be prepared to take the scum out when they come to take you out. It is better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6.

[…]

There will be killing squads…if these Democratic party whores think their family will be safe after ‘killing’ an elected official then their entire family doesn’t deserve to live anyway. The entire nest has to be cleaned out.
After all…most are government uneducated useful idiots.
BUY AMMO. Protect your family from them.
Remember, they are ANIMALS first and only through proper family socialization do they become HUMAN.

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137 comments

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:03:55pm

You already said it but John Nolte is condemning death threats? Isn't that like Scott Walker accusing someone of union busting?

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:04:02pm

Not only they tried to present some stupid teens' comments as a liberal onslaught, they lied about at least one twitterer "threatening" Walker (when he had done no such thing), and some wingnuts promptly reported him or her to the FBI:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:05:19pm

It's all Obama's fault yet when these idiots actually use violent rhetoric themselves, it's that we on the left are too stupid to understand their brilliant wit and humor.

Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:06:10pm

re: #2 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

Not only they tried to present some stupid teens' comments as a liberal onslaught, they lied about at least one twitterer "threatening" Walker (when he had done no such thing), and some wingnuts promptly reported him or her to the FBI:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Stupid people can't tell the difference between Tweets and Retweets, though I think Retweeting a death threat is stupid all by itself.

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:07:09pm

Silly, don't they know satire when they see it?
/

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:07:42pm

re: #5 Kragar

Silly, don't they know satire when they see it?
/

Satire is only for Rush Limbaugh when he calls women sluts or when he calls liberals retarded.

kwb2003 Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:08:57pm

I knew Charles was up to no good, banishing all those True Americans to his Soviet-style Gulag with his secret supercomputer from his secret lab in the basement of Planned Parenthood.

dragonfire1981 Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:12:31pm

Why do people feel the need to be such dicks on Twitter? I don't understand what about that particular medium causes people to apparently not give two shits about what they are saying.

Bulworth Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:13:32pm

We all know that the same president who intentionally ignited a racial firestorm...

Oh yes. "We all know". //

iceweasel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:14:21pm

I saw this earlier and meant to page it: the best part is, you don't have far to look in the Twitchy comments before you come across eliminationist rhetoric:

adirondack_1 • 3 hours ago • Hide
bisquitbrain: It's been going on longer than most on this blog have been alive. Nobody would believe you 25 years ago that it was a rapidly growing problem. Now it's full grown and like a weed it will spring back up every time you whack it off. The roots must be dug out. That will take thirty years at the common rate of birth and death if 100% eradication is begun and that's not possible without civil war.

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jnh45 • 4 hours ago • Hide
How right you are - things will go wild when Obama is defeated - let's make the defeat happen - it will get hot and I hope hot enough to cleanse this nation.
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Barbfears • 3 hours ago • Hide
I worry about Mitt. I would not want to be the guy who beats BO. I remember when my kids were little, they were the most cranky before their nap. I think the unions and thugs are going to need a nap.
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TheNilvarg • 2 hours ago • Hide
Yes, a dirt nap.

and:

CopperheadCSA • 6 hours ago • Hide
Some call it a riot. I like to refer to it as a 'target rich environment.'

And:

Energy Guy • 4 hours ago • Hide
You are so right, Art. Two years ago I purchased a Sprinfield .40 cal. and my CHL, just in case. I hope to never need it but I certainly will if I have to. As the kids today would say...."Don't start nothin', won't be nothin'."

Not to mention all the comments they've already had to delete on that post. These are just the first few that stood out to me.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:14:46pm

Am I missing someone? But I think the only people who got upset at the president's remarks on Martin are people like Nolte who get upset when the president so much as wakes up in the White House and has his first cup of coffee.

Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:15:25pm

re: #8 dragonfire1981

Why do people feel the need to be such dicks on Twitter? I don't understand what about that particular medium causes people to apparently not give two shits about what they are saying.

People get used to chatting with friends and forget that they are actually broadcasting publicly on the internet with a permanent record of what they said.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:16:15pm

re: #10 Millicent Islam

I saw this earlier and meant to page it: the best part is, you don't have far to look in the Twitchy comments before you come across eliminationist rhetoric:

and:

And:

Not to mention all the comments they've already had to delete on that post. These are just the first few that stood out to me.

Gotta love it. A discussion about the meanie liberals threatening people becomes a conservative ragegasm.

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:17:34pm

re: #9 Bulworth

Oh yes. "We all know". //

LBJ? Nixon? Kennedy?

Targetpractice Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:18:13pm

re: #8 dragonfire1981

Why do people feel the need to be such dicks on Twitter? I don't understand what about that particular medium causes people to apparently not give two shits about what they are saying.

Normal Person + Anonymity + Audience = Total Fuckwad.

Otherwise known as the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory or GIFT.

iceweasel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:18:25pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Gotta love it. A discussion about the meanie liberals threatening people becomes a conservative ragegasm.

Exactly. All kinds of wingnutty fantasies in those comments:

head honch • 2 hours ago • Hide
cbpelto: do not attend ANY gunfight with a handgun at all. Best is an AR-15 or an AK47 or AK74..keep the hand gun on you for a last resort option, only if your primary semi auto rifle fails

And

rite2carry • 5 hours ago • Hide
Hardwurkindaddy: Stay locked and loaded my friend. Myself, i have a few things they would have to dodge if they come at my family and I, german shepherds are known for going straight for the throats and I have 2 very big ones. 1/2 my family carries(the others are to young to carry) and these punks would have a little bit of a war on their hands should they come after us.

Just like Dan Riehl's imaginary black kid beatdown!

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:20:34pm

re: #16 Millicent Islam

Exactly. All kinds of wingnutty fantasies in those comments:

And

Just like Dan Riehl's imaginary black kid beatdown!

They're so goddamn paranoid. As Sollonzo in the Godfather said, you give me too much credit kid. Really the last thing I want to do is pick a fight with a bunch of bitter right wing assholes.

Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:20:47pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Gotta love it. A discussion about the meanie liberals threatening people becomes a conservative ragegasm.

Soros pays me by the death threat, but since I can't make the twitters work the postage is killing me.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:21:36pm

re: #18 Decatur Deb

Soros pays me by the death threat, but since I can't make the twitters work the postage is killing me.

I vote Democrat because I want freebies from the government.//

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:22:57pm

re: #16 Millicent Islam

Exactly. All kinds of wingnutty fantasies in those comments:

And

Just like Dan Riehl's imaginary black kid beatdown!

Be nice. They have to talk about their guns because they can't brag about their education or penis size.

Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:24:37pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

I vote Democrat because I want freebies from the government.//

I used to get free MREs and ERDLated water. Sigh...the good old days.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:25:35pm

You gotta love the paranoia they have about union members though.My grandfather was a union member. A Korean War veteran, father of two, churchgoer, and someone who donated part of his salary to Downs Syndrome charities because of his sister having DS. There's your union thug.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:27:19pm

What the unions need to do and sorry to divert is have a PR campaign to show that their members aren't crazy radicals but rather just regular people trying to provide a better life for them and their families.

iceweasel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:28:13pm

anAmericanMom • 5 hours ago • Hide
They are not Americans.. they are cesspool scum

Nice screen name!

Dixie Trent • 7 hours ago • Hide
Death threats ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY BY THE FCC AND THE FBI, but since most are from blacks, I doubt that will happen!

Eric Holder and the Dept. of Injustice has just deemed, "Nothing to see here people".
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animal-lover/lib-hater • an hour ago • Hide
Yeah and isn't it funny---those are the ones most likely to actually follow THROUGH on their threats!

iceweasel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:28:32pm

This is my favourite:

tomtom1983 • 14 hours ago • Hide
Touch any conservative with harm, and trust it will be the very last thing you ignorant liberal free loaders will ever do in this plain of existence.

Your disgusting, human imitating, mind swelling viral infections. Our patience and tolerance does indeed have a limit and you vile sore losing homonids are fastly approaching that limit. As we tire of your racist hypocrisies and your inability to think seperate of the dark princes collective.

Your just souless copies of what looks to be human but are actually just reused reprinted doubles on Charlie Rangels stationary.

Karma is a b!%ch and all of you libby reprints will be consumed and crushed by your own vile stank.

Purge liberalism now and forever. Pigs!!

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:28:43pm

To sum up: @JonahNRO: 'I'd like to beat up a socialist.' @jamiekilstein: 'Try me.' @JonahNRO: 'You're so immature.' #okaythen
— Jamison Foser (@jamisonfoser) June 6, 2012

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:29:18pm

re: #25 Millicent Islam

plain of existence!

Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:30:35pm

They own this state lock stock and barrel. Probably the country soon as well.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:31:04pm

re: #8 dragonfire1981

Why do people feel the need to be such dicks on Twitter? I don't understand what about that particular medium causes people to apparently not give two shits about what they are saying.

because people are stupid and angry and not self aware, and this is their actual headspace

it's not that they're actively trying to be dicks on twitter, it's that this is how they naturally are inside their heads, and twitter is so quick and immediate that they can express that

people are crazy :D

Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:31:33pm

re: #25 Millicent Islam

This is my favourite:

Given a chance, which means a co-opted law enforcement and justice system, that will be the recruiting poster for KKK IV.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:32:51pm

re: #24 Millicent Islam

Nice screen name!

Bob Mueller is clearly a tool of the black panthers.

Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:33:26pm

re: #25 Millicent Islam

I've added a lot of these comments as an update, thanks for pointing them out.

Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:33:59pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

What the unions need to do and sorry to divert is have a PR campaign to show that their members aren't crazy radicals but rather just regular people trying to provide a better life for them and their families.

That doesn't work. They are just regular people providing to their families. To the american public, they are vermin.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:34:28pm

re: #25 Millicent Islam

This is my favourite:

You see comments like this alot- that call liberals subhuman and all that.. It's a dare I say very Nazi lway of looking at people. Where someone can't merely be wrong ideologically, they have to be beneath humanity. It's a scary mindset.

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:34:41pm

Damn liberal free loaders, driving on public roads, attending public schools, using the national utilities infrastructure, paying their taxes the whole time! YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!

Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:35:00pm

re: #35 Kragar

Damn liberal free loaders, driving on public roads, attending public schools, using the national utilities infrastructure, paying their taxes the whole time! YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!

I am.

iceweasel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:35:16pm

ABO 2012 • 3 hours ago • Hide
If Obama had a son, he would be on Twitter threatening to kill Gov Walker...
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7 up votes, none down.

Greg Howard • 14 hours ago • Hide
animals have better morals
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MrBK • 15 hours ago • Hide
What a bunch of mindless pigs.
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Needs more racism!

qwerty_321 • 2 hours ago • Hide
Diversity is our strength .. yeah .. sure. The bloody simians can't even speak English yet they live in the United States. I am so sick of negrish.
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nogard1951 • 3 hours ago • Hide
Be locked and loaded in November.

iceweasel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:36:04pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

You see comments like this alot- that call liberals subhuman and all that.. It's a dare I say very Nazi lway of looking at people. Where someone can't merely be wrong ideologically, they have to be beneath humanity. It's a scary mindset.

yeah, it's dehumanizing rhetoric. The GOP is very fond of that.

Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:36:30pm

re: #33 Amory Blaine

That doesn't work. They are just regular people providing to their families. To the american public, they are vermin.

Probably only about 3% to 15% of the public. I'm an optimist.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:36:33pm

re: #33 Amory Blaine

That doesn't work. They are just regular people providing to their families. To the american public, they are vermin.

I know and agree. I'm just saying that I think the unions could benefit from a PR campaign showing that. Just my opinion.

Targetpractice Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:36:36pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

What the unions need to do and sorry to divert is have a PR campaign to show that their members aren't crazy radicals but rather just regular people trying to provide a better life for them and their families.

At this point, I'd think the best thing unions in Wisconsin could do is lay low for a bit and let John Doe solve the problem for them.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:37:22pm

re: #38 Millicent Islam

yeah, it's dehumanizing rhetoric. The GOP is very fond of that.

I hate dehumanizing rhetoric. I mean why can't someone just be disagreeable or even wrong?

iceweasel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:38:23pm

mitch27 • 3 hours ago • Hide
Has anybody noticed the pictures of these douchebags tweeting the threats? Wonder where our welfare is being spent?

Cemal • 6 hours ago • Hide
I'm willing to bet that these were some of the same people screaming "Justice for Trayvon".......
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Crump's Brother • 6 hours ago • Hide
I can see why he got shot now
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Lovely.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:38:31pm

re: #41 Targetpractice

At this point, I'd think the best thing unions in Wisconsin could do is lay low for a bit and let John Doe solve the problem for them.

I agree. Speaking about unions as a whole here. Being from here in Va, I'm sure you've heard about McDonnell making a fuss out of the workers working on the Silver Line being union labor and using that as an excuse to delay construction to appease the wingers.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:38:53pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

because using typical bully logic they have to make themselves "superior" to everything and everyone else.

Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:38:56pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

Absolutely not. Any attempt at humanization of unions/members will be crushed by right wing media.

iceweasel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:39:09pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

I've added a lot of these comments as an update, thanks for pointing them out.

Cool, you're welcome!

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:39:13pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

I hate dehumanizing rhetoric. I mean why can't someone just be disagreeable or even wrong?

Because America, because mainstream right-wing protestantism, because folk devils, because hocus pocus and makebelieve and paranoia, because worship of money and power

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:39:27pm

I still like how these guys think owning a gun and a dog makes them important people to be reckoned with, like they're living out on the frontier waiting for bandits to attack.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:39:36pm

Because only black people use welfare and no white conservative has ever used the government for help. Never, conservatives are totally self-reliant and liberals are just leeches on the system.// Morons.

Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:40:01pm

re: #46 Amory Blaine

Absolutely not. Any attempt at humanization of unions/members will be crushed by right wing media.

BTW there are no public unions in Wisconsin. Not any with any power anyways. (ex. police, fire).

iceweasel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:40:42pm

re: #49 Kragar

I still like how these guys think owning a gun and a dog makes them important people to be reckoned with, like they're living out on the frontier waiting for bandits to attack.

Fantasies of the end times.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:40:51pm

re: #49 Kragar

I still like how these guys think owning a gun and a dog makes them important people to be reckoned with, like they're living out on the frontier waiting for bandits to attack.

TOM CLANCY'S ADVANCED AMERICAN WARHELMET

Targetpractice Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:41:25pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

I agree. Speaking about unions as a whole here. Being from here in Va, I'm sure you've heard about McDonnell making a fuss out of the workers working on the Silver Line being union labor and using that as an excuse to delay construction to appease the wingers.

I know it'll sound defeatist, but I'm almost of the opinion that we should let unions go into hiding for awhile, let people see what corporations are like when workers are left to fend for themselves. Thinks it's time for a reeducation of the American people of just what it was like a century ago for workers in this nation.

Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:42:35pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

It's not defeatist. It's reality.

Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:43:20pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

I know it'll sound defeatist, but I'm almost of the opinion that we should let unions go into hiding for awhile, let people see what corporations are like when workers are left to fend for themselves. Thinks it's time for a reeducation of the American people of just what it was like a century ago for workers in this nation.

It took immense work an a good bit of blood to get this far. I don't want to have to start over with the Knights of Labor and the Molly Maguires.

lawhawk Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:44:33pm

re: #53 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

Wolverine!!!!!!!

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:44:38pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

I know it'll sound defeatist, but I'm almost of the opinion that we should let unions go into hiding for awhile, let people see what corporations are like when workers are left to fend for themselves. Thinks it's time for a reeducation of the American people of just what it was like a century ago for workers in this nation.

You may be right.

Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:45:17pm

Let's be straight as well Tom Barrett is no union man. I could feel the heat from his gleeful hand rubbing when Walker gave him his "tools". The unions would not have been calling any shots. They may have at least had a spot at the table, but no way was Barrett going to give back what was taken away. Now we know. Wisconsin doesn't think teachers deserve a seat at the table.

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:45:51pm

re: #52 Millicent Islam

Fantasies of the end times.

"I got guns and German shepherd trained to kill!"

"Great, we're going to call animal control and report you for training attack dogs without a license, then when you get pissed and fly off the handle, we'll tape it and use it as evidence as to why we need a restraining order, plus we'll post it on youtube to make you look like an idiot. We'll also record when you come over to threaten us for posting it on the net, so the cops get arrest you for violating the restraining order, then we'll sue your ass for the threats, have your guns sold off to pay the settlement and adopt your dog to be ours."

Targetpractice Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:46:06pm

re: #56 Decatur Deb

It took immense work an a good bit of blood to get this far. I don't want to have to start over with the Knights of Labor and the Molly Maguires.

It's getting to the point where we're almost back at Square One. Out of the entire First World, we're close to if not at dead last in everything from paid vacation to maternity leave. People seriously have no clue what's been ripped out from under their feet as the unions have been beaten and bludgeoned into a mere shadow of themselves. But the worst part is they look at this situation and think it's "good" because the retreat of unions means "more jobs."

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:46:12pm

re: #57 lawhawk

Wolverine!!!

Heh I thought of Red Dawn too. They probably have this fantasy of North Korea or whatever nation invading and them being the brave resistance while Obama and the left accept and collaborate with the occupiers. It's kind of like those people who think they're superheroes only the former aren't really pissed off people who rage and rage.

Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:46:24pm

re: #59 Amory Blaine

Let's be straight as well Tom Barrett is no union man. I could feel the heat from his gleeful hand rubbing when Walker gave him his "tools". The unions would not have been calling any shots. They may have at least had a spot at the table, but no way was Barrett going to give back what was taken away. Now we know. Wisconsin doesn't think teachers deserve a seat at the table.

Barack Obama and Bill Clinton are not union men. They're just vastly better than the alternatives.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:46:37pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

Barack Obama and Bill Clinton are not union men. They're just vastly better than the alternatives.

Interesting Times Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:47:17pm

Need further proof of how far rightwing blog tentacles reach?

Sen. Chambliss asks AG Holder to look into incidents of conservative commentators being harassed > bit.ly/KguFhq
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) June 6, 2012

iceweasel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:47:55pm

Henry Thoreau • 7 hours ago • Hide
Wow, that's quite a collection of crack whores and communists. We really need to end welfare.

Kra kar • 3 hours ago • Hide
These apes will go nowhere in life but prison....and by the look of it, prison life starts next week for the 'groid.
LoL. good riddance.

And

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TimH • 4 hours ago • Hide
Folks, when Zimmerman is acquitted or hung jury 'Obama's sons' will riot. Be prepared to protect your neighborhoods! Form citizen defense squads and practice.
Don't be the scared cracker that is dragged out your car and savaged by the feral animals called Obama voters!

Good lord. If this is the stuff they're leaving up, what on earth did they delete?

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:48:53pm

re: #66 Millicent Islam

Some teaching their children this stuff, no doubt

Targetpractice Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:48:54pm

re: #62 HappyWarrior

Heh I thought of Red Dawn too. They probably have this fantasy of North Korea or whatever nation invading and them being the brave resistance while Obama and the left accept and collaborate with the occupiers. It's kind of like those people who think they're superheroes only the former aren't really pissed off people who rage and rage.

You've heard that a remake is coming out this November, right?

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:49:02pm

re: #66 Millicent Islam

And

Good lord.

You really should stop reading those comments. Tis good for your sanity.

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:49:25pm

re: #68 Targetpractice

You've heard that a remake is coming out this November, right?

Yeah with North Koreans right?

Targetpractice Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:50:53pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

Yeah with North Koreans right?

Yep. Was supposed to be the Chinese, but then MGM wimped out over concerns that it would be banned from distribution in China.

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:51:24pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

Yeah with North Koreans right?

The Chinese production company didn't like the original script for some reason.

Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:52:40pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

Yeah with North Koreans right?

How do they get here, paper hot-air balloons?

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:53:14pm

re: #73 Decatur Deb

How do they get here, paper hot-air balloons?

Glorious Leader's divine will?

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:53:48pm

re: #73 Decatur Deb

How do they get here, paper hot-air balloons?

Loc-Nar crashes in pyongyang, cue Black Sabbath

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:54:47pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

Yep. Was supposed to be the Chinese, but then MGM wimped out over concerns that it would be banned from distribution in China.

Our relationship with China is delightfully strange.

Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:54:53pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Glorious Leader's divine will?

Ah. So Limbaugh smuggles them in as his excess baggage.

TedStriker Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:54:59pm

re: #75 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

Loc-Nar crashes in pyongyang, cue Black Sabbath

Nice Heavy Metal reference...

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:55:08pm

re: #75 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

Loc-Nar crashes in pyongyang, cue Black Sabbath

Youtube Video

Varek Raith Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:56:28pm

re: #26 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

[Embedded content]

Yo momma!

Targetpractice Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:56:29pm

re: #73 Decatur Deb

How do they get here, paper hot-air balloons?

My guess, it'll be a "near future" scenario, sort of like Homefront.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:56:58pm

re: #79 Kragar

yes exactly that :D

they just run to America, in parallax, over the sea, like that, nobody is safe

HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:57:57pm

Speaking of commies, One of my favorite Simpsons sketches is when McBain fights "commienazis" I think if they made that sketch now, they would have gone with "Islamocommies."

Varek Raith Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:58:34pm

Youtube Video

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:58:51pm

re: #82 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

yes exactly that :D

they just run to America, in parallax, over the sea, like that, nobody is safe

The giant bats really did help though.

Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:59:27pm

re: #81 Targetpractice

My guess, it'll be a "near future" scenario, sort of like Homefront.

OK--that reads like a script treatment for the sequel.

Big Steve Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:59:50pm

nasty death threats, which, as anyone who uses Twitter knows, is about as unusual as sand on a beach.

Does this become a new law......."on any topic, there is squared relationship to the time in existence and the likelihood that someone on Twitter will say they want to kill it"

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:02:12pm

re: #87 Big Steve

Does this become a new law..."on any topic, there is squared relationship to the time in existence and the likelihood that someone on Twitter will say they want to kill it"

THAT'S ALWAYS YOUR ANSWER ISN'T IT

Youtube Video

K-K-K-K-K-KILL IT

allegro Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:02:13pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

I know it'll sound defeatist, but I'm almost of the opinion that we should let unions go into hiding for awhile, let people see what corporations are like when workers are left to fend for themselves. Thinks it's time for a reeducation of the American people of just what it was like a century ago for workers in this nation.

We're seeing it now after 30 years since Reagan took an ax to unions. They are nothing now compared to the power they once had and it shows dramatically with the demolition of the middle class. I was raised in a union-hating Republican household - seeing the results of increasingly impotent and non-existent unions, I'm now a serious union supporter and advocate.

Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:07:30pm

Iron Maiden break

Youtube Video

Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:10:40pm

The democratic party is in big trouble and the left for that matter. Who will advocate for the poor?

iceweasel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:10:41pm

Michael Gilmer • 6 hours ago • Hide
You notice that most of these brainless morons are Obama supporters? The race war has started folks. Arm yourself legally and be prepared to take the scum out when they come to take you out. It is better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6.

Robert Jones Twitchy · 7 hours ago

There will be killing squads...if these Democratic party whores think their family will be safe after 'killing' an elected official then their entire family doesn't deserve to live anyway. The entire nest has to be cleaned out.
After all...most are government uneducated useful idiots.
BUY AMMO. Protect your family from them.
Remember, they are ANIMALS first and only through proper family socialization do they become HUMAN.

That's it for me. They just go on and on....

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:10:52pm

re: #89 allegro

my father was in a union and that union made sure he kept his job and didn't get screwed over by the company he worked for. But yet he is a union hating republican.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:11:57pm

re: #92 Millicent Islam

they seem to keep going back to "the race war"

I guess Obama started the race war by becoming president, funny how that works

celticdragon Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:12:59pm

re: #92 Millicent Islam

There will be killing squads...if these Democratic party whores think their family will be safe after 'killing' an elected official then their entire family doesn't deserve to live anyway. The entire nest has to be cleaned out.
After all...most are government uneducated useful idiots.
BUY AMMO. Protect your family from them.
Remember, they are ANIMALS first and only through proper family socialization do they become HUMAN.

What. The. Fuck.

I don't know where to even begin.

Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:13:01pm

re: #93 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

my father was in a union and that union made sure he kept his job and didn't get screwed over by the company he worked for. But yet he is a union hating republican.

Walker won 37% of union households.

William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:13:29pm

re: #91 Amory Blaine

The democratic party is in big trouble and the left for that matter. Who will advocate for the poor?

What left? We have a center-right party - The Democratic Party.
We have a far right Falangist party - The Republican Party.

We do not have a "left" in the United States.

allegro Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:13:54pm

re: #93 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

my father was in a union and that union made sure he kept his job and didn't get screwed over by the company he worked for. But yet he is a union hating republican.

Wow, seriously? Did he resent his own union? Not recognize what it did for him? Does he think that it's just the other unions that are bad?

celticdragon Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:14:19pm

re: #94 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

they seem to keep going back to "the race war"

I guess Obama started the race war by becoming president, funny how that works

"He's a Ni*clang!*" is all these people can say.

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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:15:05pm

re: #98 allegro

Wow, seriously? Did he resent his own union? Not recognize what it did for him? Does he think that it's just the other unions that are bad?

Some unions did screw over their rank-and-file. Lookin at you, Jimmy.

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TedStriker Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:16:08pm

re: #81 Targetpractice

My guess, it'll be a "near future" scenario, sort of like Homefront.

Which makes sense, because John Milius was/is involved in all of it (Red Dawn [the original, not the remake, but Milius' Red Dawn is the basis for the new one] and Homefront).

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Obdicut Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:16:17pm

re: #89 allegro

We're seeing it now after 30 years since Reagan took an ax to unions. They are nothing now compared to the power they once had and it shows dramatically with the demolition of the middle class. I was raised in a union-hating Republican household - seeing the results of increasingly impotent and non-existent unions, I'm now a serious union supporter and advocate.

I think a lot of it is a basic misunderstanding of business. Glibertarians and other folks with rose-colored glasses claim that in the competitive free market, companies will treat workers well because it gives them a market advantage, turnover costs companies money, etc. This ignores the obvious reality that many places-- like Wal-Mart-- have systematized things so that turnover impacts them a lot less, and have taken the market position of being exploitative of labor. It's a viable economic position, just like selling shoddy merchandise that doesn't work that well is; some people will work the shit jobs because they can't get anything else or don't realize they can get something else, some people will buy the cheapest stuff on the market because they can't afford anything else or they're poor judges of quality or whatever.

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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:16:37pm

re: #100 Decatur Deb

Some unions did screw over their rank-and-file. Lookin at you, Jimmy.

And he got pardoned b which president. Hint he had a R next to his name.

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allegro Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:17:33pm

I can get why business hates unions because they make them treat employees fairly and give voice to worker concerns and needs. I sure as hell don't get why wage-earners would be anti-union. It makes no sense. But then I've been repeatedly flabbergasted for about 3 decades watching people vote Republican against their own interests.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:17:57pm

re: #98 allegro

he was in the teamsters and to hear him say it, it wasn't all roses. But we never paid a dime going to see the dentist or the doctor. They helped him when he was injured on the job and fought for him through contract negotiations as well as working with him to get his disability etc. Every time he brings up "the unions" I remind him of these facts and he gets quiet.

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Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:18:11pm

14-Year-Old Radio Host: Obama And Biden Are ‘Making Kids Gay’

A 14-year-old radio talk show host in West Virginia is claiming that President Obama and Vice President Biden are turning children gay by coming out in favor of same-sex marriage. “Homosexuality is a belief,” Caiden Cowger explained during a May 26th broadcast. “It is not mandatory in that person…it is sickening.” “I’m going to tell you this, guys: President Obama, Vice President Biden is [sic] making kids gay!” he insisted. “Obama — if you are encouraging it, you are making kids gay.”

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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:19:00pm

re: #105 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

he was in the teamsters and to hear him say it, it wasn't all roses. But we never paid a dime going to see the dentist or the doctor. They helped him when he was injured on the job and fought for him through contract negotiations as well as working with him to get his disability etc. Every time he brings up "the unions" I remind him of these facts and he gets quiet.

re #100.
Heh.

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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:19:02pm

re: #89 allegro

We're seeing it now after 30 years since Reagan took an ax to unions. They are nothing now compared to the power they once had and it shows dramatically with the demolition of the middle class. I was raised in a union-hating Republican household - seeing the results of increasingly impotent and non-existent unions, I'm now a serious union supporter and advocate.

America is big on the ideology of rugged individualism and self-reliance.

Which somehow has been corrupted into the notion that each individual (or family) should bargain for health care and employment terms with multinational corporations without unions or government intermediaries, because the latter would "restric our personal freedoms and distort the market"...

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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:21:02pm

re: #106 Kragar

14-Year-Old Radio Host: Obama And Biden Are ‘Making Kids Gay’

Heh I just saw this on the pages. My 11 year old kid brother is probably one of the biggest spporters of equality of any kid I know yet he's a little ladies man. Right wing meme fail. Then again this kid is probably one of those morons who thinks Glee turns kids gay too.

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TedStriker Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:21:06pm

re: #108 Expand Your Ground

America is big on the ideology of rugged individualism and self-reliance. Which somehow has been corrupted into the notion that each individual (or family) should bargain for health care and employment terms with multinational corporations without unions or government intermediaries...

Getting steamrollered in the process and thanking them for the privilege.

What a pile of horseshit that is...

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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:22:23pm

re: #102 Obdicut

I think a lot of it is a basic misunderstanding of business. Glibertarians and other folks with rose-colored glasses claim that in the competitive free market, companies will treat workers well because it gives them a market advantage, turnover costs companies money, etc. This ignores the obvious reality that many places-- like Wal-Mart-- have systematized things so that turnover impacts them a lot less, and have taken the market position of being exploitative of labor. It's a viable economic position, just like selling shoddy merchandise that doesn't work that well is; some people will work the shit jobs because they can't get anything else or don't realize they can get something else, some people will buy the cheapest stuff on the market because they can't afford anything else or they're poor judges of quality or whatever.

It's this whacked out illogic that says "They won't do away with these things because too many people would make a fuss." It's the same strain of stupidity that says that major corporations can be deregulated because, if they do something that will cause a lot of people harm, the people will rise up and hold the company responsible. Or at least until "tort reform" gets passed that replaces lawsuits with arbitration, where the company holds all the cards and can force the injured parties into accepting peanuts.

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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:23:07pm

Can I just say I hate using kids for political purposes? One thing for a kid to have an opinion on the issues of the day which this kid is entitled to do so even if his views are messed up. It's another to create child political pundits like this and this is something I've seen far more with the right than left.

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Obdicut Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:23:53pm

re: #108 Expand Your Ground

America is big on the ideology of rugged individualism and self-reliance.

Yet at the very same time, most of those same people defend utterly the moral rightness of parents giving their children every possible advantage.

I don't get it. The two positions should be counter-intuitive. Rugged individualists should think that Romney was privileged so much from the outset he can't really be the right guy for leadership, since he's not a rugged individualist.

Its because it's a lie. It's not about rugged individualism, it's about dodging responsibility-- responsibility towards your country, your fellow citizens, responsibility not to pollute the common environment, to pick up after yourself, etc. Most things that the GOP is against are responsible things.

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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:24:55pm

re: #110 Gitarzan

Getting steamrollered in the process and thanking them for the privilege.

What a pile of horseshit that is...

You know how it goes. They go to their boss and say "I've worked here for years, I've done a lot of hard work, I think I deserve higher pay."

And their boss, whose bonuses depend on increasing productivity while keeping costs (salaries, benefits, etc) down, gives the employee a long look and tells him "Be glad you got a job. There's a dozen applications on my desk from guys who are just as experienced who'd kill for what you're getting paid now. Now get back to work before I put you on report."

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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:25:14pm

re: #111 Targetpractice

It's this whacked out illogic that says "They won't do away with these things because too many people would make a fuss." It's the same strain of stupidity that says that major corporations can be deregulated because, if they do something that will cause a lot of people harm, the people will rise up and hold the company responsible. Or at least until "tort reform" gets passed that replaces lawsuits with arbitration, where the company holds all the cards and can force the injured parties into accepting peanuts.

The only way too many people can make a fuss that a big company has to pay attention to is if they band together & use their right of assembly to form a Union. Funny how that works, isn't it?

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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:27:08pm

re: #115 William Barnett-Lewis

The only way too many people can make a fuss that a big company has to pay attention to is if they band together & use their right of assembly to form a Union. Funny how that works, isn't it?

True, but the corporations learned their lesson. Now they pump money into government to defang the NLRB, then hold the threat of job losses and other penalties over folks heads for even discussing the idea of forming a union. Or make "pleas" for the workers not to unionize, because otherwise they'll have to shut down the plant and move the jobs elsewhere.

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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:28:06pm

Amazing high-res Venus photo from the Japanese Hinode satellite:

Image: ZZ407E2764.jpg

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celticdragon Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:29:34pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

Amazing high-res Venus photo from the Japanese Hinode satellite:

Image: ZZ407E2764.jpg

Beautiful.

I love science. :)

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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:30:33pm

re: #116 Targetpractice

True, but the corporations learned their lesson. Now they pump money into government to defang the NLRB, then hold the threat of job losses and other penalties over folks heads for even discussing the idea of forming a union. Or make "pleas" for the workers not to unionize, because otherwise they'll have to shut down the plant and move the jobs elsewhere.

The NLRB bashing drives me nuts. I admit it's personal as my dad's dad was there from the start until the Nixon years. But the arbitrators really do a thankless job. My granddad's protege was still doing cases well into his early 90's. Great guy.

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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:35:59pm

The right's fixation on the Second Amendment has led them to regard violence as a kind of ultimate trump card in their ongoing struggle against liberalism, reason, and science.
It's not going to happen, they don't have the stomach for it. It is not that they are especially averse to violence, heaven knows, it is simply that they have too much to lose. Even wingers of very modest means are exceedingly proud of their possessions, their mortgages, their credit ratings, and all the other signifiers of material status around which their culture is built. A crazed preacher would have only to imagine federal troops putting the torch to his warehouse full of health supplements and home-schooling supplies, and he would instantly tear up that seditious sermon calling the faithful to the barricades.

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lawhawk Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:37:14pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

So, I guess going to a Chris Colfer book signing event at Bookends in Ridgewood NJ would turn someone gay according to that general logic fail.

By that logic, my wife and I would be gay (she more than me) since she'll frequently watch Glee.

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:37:42pm

re: #106 Kragar

must have some real great parents, that one!

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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:37:57pm

Classic:

The wingnut profiled in this LGF article has deleted all the spam tweets that got him suspended in #TwitterGulag lgf.bz/Mgh1f4
— Charles Johnson (@Lizardoid) June 6, 2012

Yes, the guy whose abusive spamming I pointed out yesterday has now deleted all the tweets I posted.

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Political Atheist Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:38:09pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

Dude, excellent sanity break.

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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:39:35pm

Scoop Jackson was a Democrat. I'm going to repeat that once in a while so I remember.

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Interesting Times Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:42:26pm

re: #123 Charles Johnson

Did you see that Georgia GOP senator Saxby Chambliss has gotten directly involved in the whole Kimberlin thing?

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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:43:59pm

re: #120 Shiplord Kirel

The problem with that thought is the presumption that they can imagine that happening. Violence only happens to "someone else". And of course, the other big problem is their idea that the "ebil libruls" are incapable of defending themselves. None of them sicko's own guns after all! (eye-roll)

This is not a new set of fantasies. Look at how certain many in the South were that the Confederacy would be free after one battle because the Yankees weren't good warrior gentlemen. Hopefully they'll wakeup like you say, this time, but looking at historical precedent in this nation and England since the ECW, I'm not going to hold my breath.

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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:47:29pm

Idle thoughts: I wonder if General Sherman's rampage in Georgia might have been rooted in a recognition of the fundamentally materialistic nature of the southern ruling class. Hit 'em where it hurts. You can kill their downtrodden conscripts, blockade their ports, trample their flag, liberate their slaves, and they take it right in stride. Burn down their fancy houses and vandalize their imported furniture, though, and they come apart at the seams.

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Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:52:22pm

re: #128 Shiplord Kirel

Idle thoughts: I wonder if General Sherman's rampage in Georgia might have been rooted in a recognition of the fundamentally materialistic nature of the southern ruling class. Hit 'em where it hurts. You can kill their downtrodden conscripts, blockade their ports, trample their flag, liberate their slaves, and they take it right in stride. Burn down their fancy houses and vandalize their imported furniture, though, and they come apart at the seams.

"I intend to make Georgia howl." - William Tecumseh Sherman

"I would make this war as severe as possible, and show no symptoms of tiring till the South begs for mercy. " - William Tecumseh Sherman

"If the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war, and not popularity seeking." - - William Tecumseh Sherman

One did not fuck with Sherman.

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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:52:55pm

I can't take a week off to go liberal hunting! I got a mortgage to pay! And that bass boat payment is coming due and my wife's Escalade needs brakes.....

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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:55:13pm

re: #113 Obdicut

Yet at the very same time, most of those same people defend utterly the moral rightness of parents giving their children every possible advantage.

I don't get it. The two positions should be counter-intuitive. Rugged individualists should think that Romney was privileged so much from the outset he can't really be the right guy for leadership, since he's not a rugged individualist.

Its because it's a lie. It's not about rugged individualism, it's about dodging responsibility-- responsibility towards your country, your fellow citizens, responsibility not to pollute the common environment, to pick up after yourself, etc. Most things that the GOP is against are responsible things.

Rugged individudualism based on the nuclear family. Which, the way it is progressing, will lead us back to Feudalism within a few generations...

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Kragar Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:56:22pm

re: #131 Expand Your Ground

Rugged individudualism based on the nuclear family. Which, the way it is progressing, will lead us back to Feudalism within a few generations...

Rugged individuals tend to die badly. Communities survive.

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makeitstop Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:57:30pm

re: #25 Millicent Islam

This is my favourite:

Yeah, tryna write all smart and stuff.

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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Jun 6, 2012 2:00:31pm

re: #114 Targetpractice

You know how it goes. They go to their boss and say "I've worked here for years, I've done a lot of hard work, I think I deserve higher pay."

And their boss, whose bonuses depend on increasing productivity while keeping costs (salaries, benefits, etc) down, gives the employee a long look and tells him "Be glad you got a job. There's a dozen applications on my desk from guys who are just as experienced who'd kill for what you're getting paid now. Now get back to work before I put you on report."

Everybody should be a self-employed entrepreneur. On a day-laborer basis, waiting outside the offiece building for a boss to come by and say "I'm hiring six accountants and three IT people, eight bucks an hour!"

Sometimes I see that as the GOP ideal.

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Gus Wed, Jun 6, 2012 3:26:57pm

The Twitchy comments are some of the worst I've ever seen. In some cases worse than what one would find at Stormfront. Michelle Malkin has found her true audience which now extends well beyond her other "home" at the white nationalist, Vdare.

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CarleeCork Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:28:18pm

re: #49 Kragar

I still like how these guys think owning a gun and a dog makes them important people to be reckoned with, like they're living out on the frontier waiting for bandits to attack.

Hey, I have a 26 lb cat incapable of cleaning his ass. I'll put his stench up against any pussy hating dog.

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Patricia Kayden Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:06:06am

Malkin's site is really called Twitchy or is that just a joke?

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