Announcing the Andrew Breitbart Bottom Feeder Awards for Right Wing ‘Journalism’

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This weekend the right wing Heritage Foundation is hosting an awards dinner in honor of Andrew Breitbart, and the award for “Best Blog” will go to “Ace of Spades.”

The same “Ace of Spades” who said this about women’s rights advocate Sandra Fluke:

Every day, the right wing establishment shows us what they’re all about. Give that man an award!

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273 comments
1 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 7:39:24pm

Yeah, nice.

/gah

2 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 7:41:38pm

We should have a 'vetting' procedure for this award, should we not? After all, Breitbart.com vets its stories with great care and precision.

/dripping

3 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 7:48:39pm

So ... Mitt Romney impersonated a state trooper to pull over drivers?

WTF?

4 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 7:49:13pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

So ... Mitt Romney impersonated a state trooper to pull over drivers?

WTF?

What are you referring to?

5 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 7:50:46pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Breaking story from Joe Conason...

6 jaunte  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 7:50:53pm
Every day, the right wing establishment shows us what they’re all about.

Related: Fox News is beginning to smear Gabriel Sherman for writing a biography of Roger Ailes that hasn't been published yet. Some of the accusations sound familiar:

...Tantaros' attack on Sherman was baseless. All he did was recount the curious tale of how Ailes' wife had taken the unusual step of canceling his newspaper subscription based on what Sherman might write about her husband.

What's also chilling is the loaded language Tantaros used in her Tweets, words like "harasser" and "stalker," as she portrayed Ailes' wife as the object of Sherman's obsession.
[Link: mediamatters.org...]

7 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 7:51:56pm

I got a text today from someone who is Pro-Walker. The commented about the "Walker-effect" on the Stock Market.

I didn't respond.

8 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 7:54:22pm

The National Memo » Did Young Mitt Romney Impersonate A Police Officer? Another Witness Says Yes

When Mitt Romney was a college freshman, he told fellow residents of his Stanford University dormitory that he sometimes disguised himself as a police officer – a crime in many states, including Michigan and California, where he then lived. And he had the uniform on display as proof.

So recalls Robin Madden, who had also just arrived as a freshman, the startling incident began when Romney called him and two or three other residents into his room, saying, “Come up, I want to show you something.” When they entered Romney’s room, “and laid out on his bed was a Michigan State Trooper’s uniform.”

Madden, a native Texan who graduated from Stanford in 1970 and went on to become a successful television producer and writer, has never forgotten that strange moment, which he has recounted to friends over the years as he observed his former classmate’s political ascent. The National Memo learned of the incident from a longtime Madden friend to whom he had mentioned it years ago.

Said Madden in a recent interview, “He told us that he had gotten the uniform from his father,” George Romney, then the Governor of Michigan, whose security detail was staffed by uniformed troopers. “He told us that he was using it to pull over drivers on the road. He also had a red flashing light that he would attach to the top of his white Rambler.”

In Madden’s recollection, confirmed by his wife Susan, who also attended Stanford during those years, “we thought it was all pretty weird. We all thought, ‘Wow, that’s pretty creepy.’ And after that, we didn’t have much interaction with him,” although both Madden and Romney were prep school boys living in the same dorm, called Rinconada.

9 Mich-again  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:02:06pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Yikes. $50 says Mitt won't be able to recall that but he'll apologize anyway.

10 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:02:30pm

I feel the need to listen to a book and be creative.

bbl

11 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:09:47pm
shiftless rent-a-cooch from East Whoreville.

Gotta love that description. He's panting for one, just like that!

12 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:10:18pm

Seems perfectly appropriate that the author of the Fluke tweet should get an award named for Breitbart.

13 nines09  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:16:17pm

It seems that shit seeks it's own level also.

14 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:18:52pm

It seems the Geico Gecko has a evil twin.

15 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:20:59pm

Stephen Fry - All about I (What I wish I knew when I was 18)

Youtube Video
16 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:24:44pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Stephen Fry - All about I (What I wish I knew when I was 18)

[Embedded content]

I found a very good article on new species recently unveiled. I found your favorite from the list right away, though.

17 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:25:03pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

So ... Mitt Romney impersonated a state trooper to pull over drivers?

WTF?

Isn't that... sorta... illegal?

18 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:27:14pm

"from East Whoreville."

I believe Whoreville is just to the east of Whoville, site of Doctor Seuss' lesser known work The Rush who stole International Women's Day....

19 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:29:28pm

re: #17 jamesfirecat

Isn't that... sorta... illegal?

That guy's wife nailed it - creepy. The kind of personality that would enjoy impersonating a cop and pulling people is deeply frightening.

20 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:30:27pm

re: #14 Dark_Falcon

It seems the Geico Gecko has a evil twin.

He sells flying car insurance. By night.

21 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:30:35pm

re: #18 jamesfirecat

"from East Whoreville."

I believe Whoreville is just to the east of Whoville, sight of Doctor Seuss' lesser known work The Rush who stole International Women's Day...

I believe that book was actually titled "Yertle the Turtle" before Mr. Gnistel realized that someone as hateful as Rush didn't belong in a children's story.

22 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:34:36pm

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

I believe that book was actually titled "Yertle the Turtle" before Mr. Gnistel realized that someone as hateful as Rush didn't belong in a children's story.

A brooding blowhard who lives in a swamp and only manages to advance himself by climbing over the backs of his own supporters who are forced to bear his weight.... seems legit.

23 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:38:13pm

re: #22 jamesfirecat

A brooding blowhard who lives in a swamp and only manages to advance himself by climbing over the backs of his own supporters who are forced to bear his weight... seems legit.

Indeed. Though Rush is an even bigger ass.

24 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:41:19pm

Hey do any of you guys know what symbolism a dead fish has associated with unions... besides the obvious one?

(Just watching Colbert Report)

25 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:44:03pm

re: #24 jamesfirecat

Hey do any of you guys know what symbolism a dead fish has associated with unions... besides the obvious one?

(Just watching Colbert Report)

Yes: Like the fish, the public sector unions in Wisconsin are going belly-up.

/heh

26 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:44:39pm

re: #24 jamesfirecat

Hey do any of you guys know what symbolism a dead fish has associated with unions... besides the obvious one?

(Just watching Colbert Report)

Cross the Teamsters and you sleep with them?
O_O

27 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:45:47pm

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

Yes: Like the fish, the public sector unions in Wisconsin are going belly-up.

/heh

You mean a creature just trying to live its life is being pulled from its natural habitat, slaughtered, and the hung out to dry, not as a source of food that was necessary to consume but simply a source of pride for its slayer?

28 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:47:32pm

re: #27 jamesfirecat

Nope, because said unions were far from 'just living their lives'.

29 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:49:51pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

Nope, because said unions were far from 'just living their lives'.

Wake me when there's proof that Scott Walker's union busting has improved Wisconsin's economy.

30 Interesting Times  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:51:25pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

Nope, because said unions were far from 'just living their lives'.

31 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 8:54:56pm

Not gonna get deep into this one again. We've been over it repeatedly and nobody's going to change anybody else's mind by now.

32 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 9:00:32pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

Not gonna get deep into this one again. We've been over it repeatedly and nobody's going to change anybody else's mind by now.

Fair enough, let's go back to drawing comparison between Doctor Suess' works and political figures.

//// That's a subject sure not to spark any bitter arguements!

33 Interesting Times  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 9:02:11pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

Not gonna get deep into this one again. We've been over it repeatedly and nobody's going to change anybody else's mind by now.

Heritage Foundation, Others, Oppose ADA Restoration Act

Have you been sitting quietly on the sidelines watching the ADA Restoration Act work its way through congress? The Deaf community and others cannot afford complacency in this battle. Large organizations such as the Heritage Foundation have now come out strongly against the Restoration Act. And many bloggers have followed suit in blogging against the ADA Restoration Act. That means it’s time for Deaf people to take action. And also for people–deaf or hearing, with or without disabilities–to write to their senators.

I’m looking for people (deaf or hearing, I don’t care) to please help by writing good rebuttals to some of the arguments used by the Heritage Foundation, the US Chamber of Commerce, or some of the bloggers around the web.

Haven't you yourself been granted accommodation under the Americans with Disabilities Act? Well, the puppetmasters who pull the strings of the GOP don't like it very much. But you vote for them anyway.

34 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 9:05:25pm

re: #33 Interesting Times

Heritage Foundation, Others, Oppose ADA Restoration Act

Haven't you yourself been granted accommodation under the Americans with Disabilities Act? Well, the puppetmasters who pull the strings of the GOP don't like it very much. But you vote for them anyway.

That was back in 2008. Thankfully, the ADA was a point of just pride for George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush, ever the loyal son, made sure that the ADA was in fact reauthorized and indeed enhanced.

35 Interesting Times  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 9:11:06pm

re: #34 Dark_Falcon

That was back in 2008. Thankfully, the ADA was a point of just pride for George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush, ever the loyal son, made sure that the ADA was in fact reauthorized and indeed enhanced.

So what? The Bushes are persona non grata to the GOP now.

36 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 9:13:38pm

re: #35 Interesting Times

So what? The Bushes are persona non grata to the GOP now.

Honestly, that is less about ideology and more about the fact that George W. Bush is still not remembered well. Jeb Bush is seen often enough within the party that I feel it correct to say its not 'The Bushes who are persona non grata, its one particular Bush who is, and would be regardless of ideology.

37 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 9:14:20pm
On June 26, 2006 Romney vetoed an improvement project with the price tag of $40,000 with his line item veto. The project would have allocated the money to Woburn Development Authority for improvements to an elevator to meet the standards set in the ADA.

Also on that day Romney vetoed an additional $25,000 to the Braintree, Massachusetts Council on Aging. The money was again proposed to meet improvements with the ADA.

38 bratwurst  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 9:16:41pm

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

There is a joke in there somewhere about elevators for disabled old people being bad, but elevators for cars being good...alas, I am too knackered to put it together.

39 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 9:26:07pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

Honestly, that less about ideology and more about the fact that George W. Bush is still not remembered well.

In other words it's about pure, gutless expedience. If Bush was remembered the way the GOP actually thinks he should be then all would be well, but since he's not they play at making him the scapegoat for their own demonstrably destructive policies. It's easier to discard the man than the ideology of tax cuts, massive military spending and total deregulation he sold on their behalf.

It's sad really, in his own way Bush was a victim. A victim of his own ignorant mentality and the yes men he surrounded himself with to be sure, but still a victim. Honest introspection and self criticism simply aren't in the conservative toolkit.

40 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 9:30:39pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

In other words it's about pure, gutless expedience. If Bush was remembered the way the GOP actually thinks he should be then all would be well, but since he's not they play at making him the scapegoat for their own demonstrably destructive policies. It's easier to discard the man than the ideology of tax cuts, massive military spending and total deregulation he sold on their behalf.

It's sad really, in his own way Bush was a victim. A victim of his own ignorant mentality and the yes men he surrounded himself with to be sure, but still a victim. Honest introspection and self criticism simply aren't in the conservative toolkit.

Conservatism can not fail it can only be failed by its practicioners.

41 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 9:31:08pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

In other words it's about pure, gutless expedience. If Bush was remembered the way the GOP actually thinks he should be then all would be well, but since he's not they play at making him the scapegoat for their own demonstrably destructive policies. It's easier to discard the man than the ideology of tax cuts, massive military spending and total deregulation.

It's sad really, in his own way Bush was a victim. A victim of his own ignorant mentality and the yes men he surrounded himself with to be sure, but still a victim. Honest introspection and self criticism simply aren't in the conservative toolkit.

They aren't in any political party's public toolkit,m and you know why: Give a fourteen minute presentation taking a self-critical assessment of a past action, and your opposition will ensure the thing people most remember is you saying "This is the mistake I made." Nobody can easily admit to error publicly, so politicians distort and BS their way around such points where they are in error.

42 Mich-again  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 9:46:13pm

re: #40 jamesfirecat

Conservatism can not fail it can only be failed by its practicioners.

That sounds just like the explanation about why communism never succeeded. It just hasn't been done right yet. ha

43 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 9:50:46pm

Good Night, all.

44 Mich-again  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 9:53:32pm

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

They aren't in any political party's public toolkit,m and you know why: Give a fourteen minute presentation taking a self-critical assessment of a past action, and your opposition will ensure the thing people most remember is you saying "This is the mistake I made." Nobody can easily admit to error publicly, so politicians distort and BS their way around such points where they are in error.

I don't mind a politician or businessman having made a mistake in their past. The key is, do they recognize it was a mistake and did they learn from it. Unfortunately the gene that makes a person want to gain political power is the same one that forces them to deny having made mistakes, or at the least to minimize or rationalize them. Its an ego thing.

45 Mich-again  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:02:08pm

re: #29 jamesfirecat

Wake me when there's proof that Scott Walker's union busting has improved Wisconsin's economy.

The jobs debate reminds me a bit of the chapter on the widespread drop in crime statistics across the USA in the book Freakonomics. Every police chief, mayor, governor tried to claim it was their policies that brought crime rates down. I'd love to see a data mining analysis on what really helped create and/or held back job creation these last couple years. Politicians are unable to do that sort of analysis. When your only tool is a hammer, all your problems look like nails.

46 Kronocide  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:15:45pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

Not gonna get deep into this one again. We've been over it repeatedly and nobody's going to change anybody else's mind by now.

A statement of virtue.

47 freetoken  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:18:55pm

Do we applaud Trump now?


Miss Pennsylvania USA claims pageant rigged

The Miss USA pageant representative from Pennsylvania resigned her crown claiming the contest is rigged, but according to organizers the beauty queen was upset over the decision to allow transgender contestants to enter.

A posting on Miss Pennsylvania Sheena Monnin's Facebook page claims another contestant learned the names of the top 5 finishers on Sunday morning – hours before the show was broadcast.

Monnin claims the other contestant told her the names of the top 5 she spotted on a planning sheet for the telecast – and she decided to step down as soon as those same contestants were named during the show.

[...]

Donald Trump, who runs the Miss Universe Organization, called Monnin's claims that the pageant was fixed "totally ridiculous" in a live interview Wednesday on ABC's "Good Morning America" and said the pageant organization plans to sue Monnin for making the "false charge."

"We're going to be suing her now. She made a very false charge and she knows it's a false charge," Trump said.

Pageant organizers confirmed Monnin resigned, but said it wasn't for the reason she claimed.

According to a statement from the Miss Universe Organization, the contestant who Monnin claimed saw the sheet vehemently refuted Monnin's account.

The statement includes text from an email organizers said Monnin sent citing the decision to allow transgender contestants into the competition as the reason she's resigning.

A transgender contestant was initially denied entry to the Miss Universe Canada pageant, but Trump subsequently overruled that decision.

[...]

48 freetoken  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:20:01pm

One reason why creationism belief will continue strongly in America:

Billionaire privatization activists pushing 'neovouchers' for North Carolina

49 Kragar  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:21:41pm

re: #47 freetoken

Do we applaud Trump now?

Miss Pennsylvania USA claims pageant rigged

Nope.

50 freetoken  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:26:52pm

Oh, look who's getting favorite treatment now, sugar-daddy to wingnuts:

Adelson Wins Favored Terms For Casino Loans: Corporate Finance

Junk-rated Las Vegas Sands Corp., the casino operator controlled by billionaire Sheldon Adelson, is getting investment-grade treatment from banks as cash flow from its properties in Asia outpaces those in the U.S.

[...]

Adelson is quite the work. The guy almost makes Trump look like a saint.

51 sagehen  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:28:03pm

re: #45 Mich-again

The jobs debate reminds me a bit of the chapter on the widespread drop in crime statistics across the USA in the book Freakonomics. Every police chief, mayor, governor tried to claim it was their policies that brought crime rates down. I'd love to see a data mining analysis on what really helped create and/or held back job creation these last couple years. Politicians are unable to do that sort of analysis. When your only tool is a hammer, all your problems look like nails.

Didn't Freakonomics end up deciding it was because abortion had been legalized fifteen years before the crime rate started dropping (and kept dropping), so there were fewer unwanted children being treated to the kind of childhood that makes people more likely to grow up to be criminals?

52 Kronocide  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:28:41pm

I'm struck by the contrast of a few wealthy people giving huge amounts of $ to the political process being ok, yet a huge amount of people giving a little money as an organization is a problem.

53 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:35:04pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

In other words it's about pure, gutless expedience. If Bush was remembered the way the GOP actually thinks he should be then all would be well, but since he's not they play at making him the scapegoat for their own demonstrably destructive policies. It's easier to discard the man than the ideology of tax cuts, massive military spending and total deregulation he sold on their behalf.

It's sad really, in his own way Bush was a victim. A victim of his own ignorant mentality and the yes men he surrounded himself with to be sure, but still a victim. Honest introspection and self criticism simply aren't in the conservative toolkit.

they eat their own

54 freetoken  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:39:22pm

Since I'm going on about right-wing uber-hypocrisy, this one might qualify for an award - Crosswalk, a Salem Communications outlet, the same company that owns Hotair, Townhall, and such, promotes a story about abortions in India to scare us about government control:

Forced Sterilizations in India Hold Wider Warning About Government Abuse

"I gained consciousness around 12 or 1 in the night," Devanti Devi told a reporter for RT, a Russian news channel. "I was bleeding heavily and came home without being given any medicine." Devi's account is only the latest in a slew of emerging stories of forced sterilizations in India, where government leaders have long pushed sterilization as a form of birth control in a country with 1.2 billion people.

[...]

Yes, their source is RT, a Russian government owned enterprise which not so subtly (but occasionally quite subtly) carries forth agendas of the Russian government.

The article goes on to criticize western aid to address over-population, etc.

Now, force sterilizations are indeed a cause worth investigating, but this story is just another instance of the standard Salem Communications double-speak wingnut approach to the world.

55 freetoken  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:40:29pm

I will note that the story originally ran in World Magazine, a Christian periodical covering a range of stories.

56 freetoken  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:10:53pm

The above mentioned hedonism-monger and friend of gamblers everywhere, Sheldon Adelson, looks to spend more money on the God-hawkers now dominating the GOP:

Sheldon Adelson Ready to Throw More Money Behind Republican Candidates

The Las Vegas casino magnate formerly known as the wealthy donor behind Newt Gingrich's tumultuous bid for the Republican nomination is ready to write more checks. Potentially large checks. Sheldon Adelson poured out more than $20 million to support Gingrich during his primary bid, and all he got for it was 132 delegates and some A+ pompousness.

A potential hitch for the Mitt Romney-affiliated super-PAC Restore Our Future, which is courting Adelson, is that Adelson said of the group's champion, he's "not the bold decision-maker like Newt Gingrich is.” But Adelson's apparent disillusionment with Romney may have been repaired with a roughly 45-minute meeting between the two at his Venetian Resort in Las Vegas last week, before Restore Our Future held a fundraiser there that included an "overview and strategy update," Politico reports. CNN writes that Adelson is now said to be "fully committed" to Restore Our Future.

According to CNN, Adelson previously discussed donating as much as $100 million this election cycle, but not necessarily toward only one candidate. [...]

I wonder what the angel Moroni thinks of casinos?

57 freetoken  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:11:48pm

pimf - linky for previous:

[Link: nymag.com...]

58 boredtechindenver  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:19:55pm

National Weather Service has issued a Tornado Warning for East Central Jefferson County (Lakewood) and Southwest Denver County.

This is right where I live, and I went outside to check. It is non-stop thunder and lightning, about 1 lightning bolt every second, and no stop in the thunder. I could hear some sirens in the distance, but I could not tell if they were emergency vehicle sirens or the big Civil Defense sirens on the schools. There is a school at the end of my block, so I am listening for that to go off if there is a tornado.

59 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:21:31pm

re: #58 boredtechindenver

National Weather Service has issued a Tornado Warning for East Central Jefferson County (Lakewood) and Southwest Denver County.

This is right where I live, and I went outside to check. It is non-stop thunder and lightning, about 1 lightning bolt every second, and no stop in the thunder. I could hear some sirens in the distance, but I could not tell if they were emergency vehicle sirens or the big Civil Defense sirens on the schools. There is a school at the end of my block, so I am listening for that to go off if there is a tornado.

Got a basement?

60 Kragar  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:22:09pm

re: #58 boredtechindenver

National Weather Service has issued a Tornado Warning for East Central Jefferson County (Lakewood) and Southwest Denver County.

This is right where I live, and I went outside to check. It is non-stop thunder and lightning, about 1 lightning bolt every second, and no stop in the thunder. I could hear some sirens in the distance, but I could not tell if they were emergency vehicle sirens or the big Civil Defense sirens on the schools. There is a school at the end of my block, so I am listening for that to go off if there is a tornado.

They should just have the state legislature ban tornadoes. That will fix everything.

61 Big Joe  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:25:34pm

it looks pretty intense when you zoom in

62 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:29:50pm

re: #60 Kragar

They should just have the state legislature ban tornadoes. That will fix everything.

Mother nature don't give a shit.

63 EdDantes  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:42:54pm

re: #62 Varek Raith

Mother nature don't give a shit.

Mother nature is pretty bad ass.

64 Kragar  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:47:55pm

re: #62 Varek Raith

Mother nature don't give a shit.

Pff, She's a woman. The GOP knows whats best for her.

65 boredtechindenver  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 11:54:44pm

It doesn't look like there will be a tornado, but I will stay up late, incase the sirens go off or NWS issues another alert. Its now a Severe Thunderstorm Warning, with the possiblity of ping pong size hail. The TV is in the basement (the one I watch at least) so I am okay. I may have to wake up SWMBO if the storm gets bad and bring her downstairs.

66 freetoken  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:48:10am
MP3 Audio
67 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:50:36am

Today is a holiday here in Germany, Fronleichnam or Corpus Christi, the Feast of the Holy Eucharist.

So why do they name religious holidays after towns in Texas?

And when is the Feast of St Lubbock??

68 freetoken  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:08:28am

re: #67 Expand Your Ground

And when is the Feast of St Lubbock??

Here?

69 researchok  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:17:36am

Morning, all

70 researchok  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:21:37am

re: #66 freetoken

It's hard to believe folk music is almost a relic of another time.

What a shame.

71 Kronocide  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 2:32:07am

re: #67 Expand Your Ground

Today is a holiday here in Germany, Fronleichnam or Corpus Christi, the Feast of the Holy Eucharist.

So why do they name religious holidays after towns in Texas?

And when is the Feast of St Lubbock??

Don't be such a Lubbite.

72 freetoken  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 2:54:06am

Elina Garanca:

MP3 Audio
73 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 3:30:21am

Morning folks:

Refugee Forcibly Tattooed On His Face
[Link: www.buzzfeed.com...]

Syrians are fleeing their country's widening civil war to protect themselves and their families, and many members of the country's Sunni Muslim Majority have fled to Lebanon, which is dominate by the Shi'ite branch of Islam.

This video appears to show renegade members of the political party and anti-Israel militant group Hezbollah reacting with extreme measures. The tattoo translates to "Oh Father of Abdullah, Hussein," referring to Hussein, a revered imam of Shiia Islam.

In the past four days, some 37,000 Syrians have fled Lebanon amid fears of this kind of persecution.

74 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 3:33:01am

re: #73 RogueOne

And Assad is still blaming "outside agitators"

If that were so, then why isn't he asking for outside help, or at the least cooperating with the UN and/or Arab league letting them inbed with Syrian forces to see 1st hand!?!?

75 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 3:37:37am

re: #74 sattv4u2

I'm wondering where the refugees are going to run. They can't take off through Lebanon, for obvious reasons, and I can't imagine they'll be all that popular in Iraq either. I guess Turkey is their only shot.

76 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 3:40:06am

More Buzzfeed:

23 Leaked LinkedIn Passwords That Will Ruin Your Day

[Link: www.buzzfeed.com...]
Good grief job hunters, this is some dark stuff. Business professionals: change your passwords. Then get help.

23.
Image: enhanced-buzz-12576-1339012264-1.jpg

77 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 3:42:05am

re: #75 RogueOne

I'm wondering where the refugees are going to run. They can't take off through Lebanon, for obvious reasons, and I can't imagine they'll be all that popular in Iraq either. I guess Turkey is their only shot.

Seems the center of the protests has been Homs. The Lebanese border is the closest so that was the "natural" escape route, I would imagine

Unlike the Iraq situation where the Kurds were more or less centralized in one region and were protected via the "no fly zone" I'm not sure what protections can be set up for Assads opponents

78 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:00:00am

Turkey is certainly positioning itself to benefit politically and militarily from this conflict.

79 Patricia Kayden  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:03:57am

If Romneybot 2.0 impersonated a cop, it was just a college prank. Chill y'all.

So Breitbart is now a saint in Rightwing world. The man was obnoxious in life and a proven liar. It's very fitting that Repubs love him so much. Wonder what they'll say about Derbyshire when he passes.

80 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:09:22am

re: #73 RogueOne

Morning folks:

Refugee Forcibly Tattooed On His Face
[Link: www.buzzfeed.com...]

Speaking of tattoo's (and this one was voluntary!!)

[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]
(kinda NSFW)

81 abolitionist  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:15:41am

Hope you all had a happy IPV6 Day.

IPv6 Day: Only the Biggest Change to the Internet Since Its Inception
By Matt Peckham | @mattpeckham | June 6, 2012

82 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:23:05am

re: #79 Patricia Kayden

If Romneybot 2.0 impersonated a cop, it was just a college prank. Chill y'all.

Exatly. Just the sort of thing to note and then move on. The Internet really promotes people brooding and lingering over such irrelevant topics...

83 abolitionist  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:23:53am

More info: [Link: www.worldipv6launch.org...]

84 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:34:08am

re: #47 freetoken

Do we applaud Trump now?

Miss Pennsylvania USA claims pageant rigged

Trump is an asshole attached to a bunch of hair. I don't think any woman who has won a state-level pageant can be considered "ugly" but fewer people are uglier than that flourescent orange hairball.

85 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:39:00am

re: #80 sattv4u2

What a maroon.

86 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:39:41am

re: #85 RogueOne

What a maroon.

more orange than maroon

87 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:41:28am

re: #86 Expand Your Ground

I've never been so irritable that I thought tattooing an insult to my leg was the way to go.

88 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:44:58am

Oh yes. The 'Ace of Spades'. I'm pretty sure I encountered him years ago.

I used to hang out at the dating site Plenty of Fish. This was before I met my wife. They had forums attached to it including a politics forum.

There was an 'Ace of Spades' there, and was he a vicious asshole. The 'award winner' is probably the same person. Personalities are too similar to be a coincidence.

89 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:45:47am

re: #87 RogueOne

I've never been so irritable that I thought tattooing an insult to my leg was the way to go.

My favorite was the fellow who had the tattoo from Leviticus about how homosexuality is an abomination punishable by death.

Leviticus also forbids tatoos...

90 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:48:04am

re: #14 Dark_Falcon

It seems the Geico Gecko has a evil twin.

It's one of those lizards I posted about the other day: SATANIC LEAF-TAILED GECKO LIZARD

91 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:54:39am

re: #54 freetoken

Since I'm going on about right-wing uber-hypocrisy, this one might qualify for an award - Crosswalk, a Salem Communications outlet, the same company that owns Hotair, Townhall, and such, promotes a story about abortions in India to scare us about government control:

Forced Sterilizations in India Hold Wider Warning About Government Abuse

Yes, their source is RT, a Russian government owned enterprise which not so subtly (but occasionally quite subtly) carries forth agendas of the Russian government.

The article goes on to criticize western aid to address over-population, etc.

Now, force sterilizations are indeed a cause worth investigating, but this story is just another instance of the standard Salem Communications double-speak wingnut approach to the world.

This is what is so stupid. Those for choice, including Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood --are for INDIVIDUAL CHOICE. Not government interference. But, of course, this is lost on the stupid and the brainwashed Fox Drones.

92 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:57:17am

re: #91 ggt

This is what is so stupid. Those for choice, including Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood --are for INDIVIDUAL CHOICE. Not government interference. But, of course, this is lost on the stupid and the brainwashed Fox Drones.

It is an ideological struggle, in which the Higher Truths trump mere facts.

And remember, these people are not just opposed to Planned Parenthood as an organization, they are against the very concept of planning parenthood in the first place.

93 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:58:30am

re: #92 Expand Your Ground

It is an ideological struggle, in which the Higher Truths trump mere facts.

And remember, these people are not just opposed to Planned Parenthood as an organization, they are against the very concept of planning parenthood in the first place.

because overpopulation and famine are good for the soul.

/gah

94 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 5:02:13am

Talk about brainwashed:

"lvaré takes this idea that the government is interfering in Catholic affairs and piles on the completely fallacious argument that the government aims to harm women by promoting sexual promiscuity with contraceptives that don’t even work anyway. On the latter point, she echoes the falsehoods promoted by her former employer, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops."

95 Lidane  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 5:10:40am

I can't imagine anything going wrong here:

Vlaams Belang to reward tipping off burqa offenders

One of the leading figures of the Flemish populist Vlaams Belang party, Filip Dewinter, announced that his anti-immigrants party will be offering a €250 reward to anyone who informs the police of women wearing burqas in public.

Dewinter stressed that the reward will “force the authorities” to implement the law on burqa prohibition regardless of the recent protests. He stressed that burqa is a “cloth prison for women” and reminded that Belgium has a law prohibiting wearing full-body covering burqas in public.

Spokesman of the Brussels metropolitan police said that policemen are implementing the law and added that the police was not informed of the reward offered by the Vlaams Belang. The law stipulates that burqa wearing is punishable by a €150 fine.

96 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 5:26:11am

re: #94 ggt

Talk about brainwashed:

"lvaré takes this idea that the government is interfering in Catholic affairs and piles on the completely fallacious argument that the government aims to harm women by promoting sexual promiscuity with contraceptives that don’t even work anyway. On the latter point, she echoes the falsehoods promoted by her former employer, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops."

The Catholic church can continue to try to convince the 98% of Catholic women who use contraceptives that they are immoral and express their disapproval.

But the law says that they have provide contraceptive coverage to their female employees...

97 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 5:29:57am

re: #96 Expand Your Ground

The Catholic church can continue to try to convince the 98% of Catholic women who use contraceptives that they are immoral and express their disapproval.

But the law says that they have provide contraceptive coverage to their female employees...

This year, the law says that. I really fear what a Republican POTUS and Republican Congress could do.

98 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 5:32:53am

re: #97 ggt

This year, the law says that. I really fear what a Republican POTUS and Republican Congress could do.

That is rather the point. Obama and Romney are really not that far apart on economic issues, they both answer to the same corporate ovrlords, but when it comes to social issues, the GOP is bent on turning the clock back by decades.

99 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 5:36:41am

re: #98 Expand Your Ground

That is rather the point. Obama and Romney are really not that far apart on economic issues, they both answer to the same corporate ovrlords, but when it comes to social issues, the GOP is bent on turning the clock back by decades.

yes, and it's driving me to distraction.

100 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 5:40:52am

re: #99 ggt

yes, and it's driving me to distraction.

It has to be the main point that the Democrats need to get across to the voters. Women voters, minority voters, and anyone who has a teenage child unless they want to see them getting knocked up and/or married way too soon...

101 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 5:41:55am

My neighbor got one of these about 6 months ago. She is absolutely adorable!

102 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 5:42:42am

re: #100 Expand Your Ground

It has to be the main point that the Democrats need to get across to the voters. Women voters, minority voters, and anyone who has a teenage child unless they want to see them getting knocked up and/or married way too soon...

All I know to do is to keep talking about it and sharing on fb. Well, of course, voting.

103 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 5:44:04am

Well, I'm going to continue my night's sleep. The dogs seem to be and the Cat Overlord approves.

Have a great morning all!

104 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 5:45:03am

re: #100 Expand Your Ground

It has to be the main point that the Democrats need to get across to the voters. Women voters, minority voters, and anyone who has a teenage child unless they want to see them getting knocked up and/or married way too soon...

Yes but there doing that about as well as they convinced voters that a Recall election was legitimate. Idiots will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and our grandchildren will still be paying the price decades from now.

105 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:00:09am

Iowa NAACP leader quits over same-sex marriage flap
[Link: qctimes.com...]
A week ago I posted this from my local paper, local NAACP leader resigns.
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]

106 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:25:37am

Crackdown on painkiller abuse fuels new wave of heroin addiction
[Link: openchannel.msnbc.msn.com...]
If you have kids this is a good read.

107 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:25:38am

re: #100 Expand Your Ground

It has to be the main point that the Democrats need to get across to the voters. Women voters, minority voters, and anyone who has a teenage child unless they want to see them getting knocked up and/or married way too soon...

Socon issues should be the garnish, not the meat and potatoes, in this election. The economy and jobs are the major concerns, 'specially in light of last month's job numbers. No president since FDR has been reelected with unemployment over 7.2%. People who don't have jobs, don't have money, don't really pay much attention to rights or freedoms.

108 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:30:31am

re: #107 Targetpractice

Socon issues should be the garnish, not the meat and potatoes, in this election. The economy and jobs are the major concerns, 'specially in light of last month's job numbers. No president since FDR has been reelected with unemployment over 7.2%. People who don't have jobs, don't have money, don't really pay much attention to rights or freedoms.

The economy should be the centerpiece, but my point is that both Romney and Obama are centrists when it comes to economic policy, with Obama slightly to the left, Romney slightly to the right.

And that if Romney wants to put any sort of centrist economic policy through, he will have to cave in to the socons in his party on every woman, gay and minority-bashing proposal their ideologues can float.

And that will wind up costing America dearly over the long run.

109 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:30:32am

Good Morning Lizards from currently sunny Philadelphia.

Most of the company is off today due to the religious holiday in Germany and Brazil. But the Americans slave at the wheel to keep the world productivity rate up! ;P

Feline Overlord update: Blood pressure good. Getting eye ointment goop in his eye 3-4 times a day, which he finds annoying. Eating and apparently sleeping without a great deal of discomfort. Trip to vet first thing tomorrow morning for a check-up on the status of the corneal ulcer. (Which I suspect is healing since otherwise it's generally very irritating.)

Also finished _Neptune's Inferno_. Recommended if you're interested in that period of USN activity in WW2. Not quite as comprehensive as Frank's _Guadalcanal_, but a good read.

110 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:32:30am

re: #106 Tommy's cone of shame

Crackdown on painkiller abuse fuels new wave of heroin addiction
[Link: openchannel.msnbc.msn.com...]
If you have kids this is a good read.

Because we tend to see see drug therapy as a) too expensive and b) a form of coddling criminals.

And it is cheaper just to let these people kill themselves, then they require no therapy, imprisonment or other social services...

111 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:37:25am

re: #108 Expand Your Ground

The economy should be the centerpiece, but my point is that both Romney and Obama are centrists when it comes to economic policy, with Obama slightly to the left, Romney slightly to the right.

And that if Romney wants to put any sort of centrist economic policy through, he will have to cave in to the socons in his party on every woman, gay and minority-bashing proposal their ideologues can float.

And that will wind up costing America dearly over the long run.

True enough, but at the same time, the polls already show that fights over social issues are at best temporary wins. Months after all the fussing over birth control ended, polls have women slowly filtering back into the Romney camp, convinced that now that Santorum's gone, the threat has passed.

What you're gonna run into a lot in coming months is that running theme that says that Romney is a closeted centrist who, once he doesn't have the pressure of winning the election on his shoulders, will tell the socons to buzz off. Chipping away at that's gonna be a very long process, one that you're not gonna accomplish before November.

112 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:42:56am

re: #111 Targetpractice

True enough, but at the same time, the polls already show that fights over social issues are at best temporary wins. Months after all the fussing over birth control ended, polls have women slowly filtering back into the Romney camp, convinced that now that Santorum's gone, the threat has passed.

What you're gonna run into a lot in coming months is that running theme that says that Romney is a closeted centrist who, once he doesn't have the pressure of winning the election on his shoulders, will tell the socons to buzz off. Chipping away at that's gonna be a very long process, one that you're not gonna accomplish before November.

So the GOP is going to make the same sell that they made for Reagan, Bush, etc. Once they get into office they will throw the socon agenda under the bus when it comes to actually supporting social legislation.

Given the current nuttery in the House I think it won't occur. The social legislation will come from there anyways without the White House stumping for it. The difference will be that I doubt that a GOP White House will stand in the way and threaten a veto of any such legislation.

113 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:45:53am

Are bath salts the reason for the zombie outbreak? That seems to be one of the common threads between a whole rash of cannabalistic crimes committed in the past couple of months, including the extremely graphic and brutal attack in Miami where a crazed man literally ate the face off another and had to be shot to stop him from causing still more damage.

Just in case, review the rules, use the double tap, and (don't) be a hero. /

114 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:46:58am

re: #113 lawhawk

Cardio!

115 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:47:00am

re: #112 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

So the GOP is going to make the same sell that they made for Reagan, Bush, etc. Once they get into office they will throw the socon agenda under the bus when it comes to actually supporting social legislation.

Given the current nuttery in the House I think it won't occur. The social legislation will come from there anyways without the White House stumping for it. The difference will be that I doubt that a GOP White House will stand in the way and threaten a veto of any such legislation.

I agree, and that is the major change that has come over the GOP since the Tea Party has hijacked policy.

They will apply the same rigidity of ideology to economic issues as they do to social issues and will not let themselves be "betrayed" as they were under Reagan

116 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:50:02am

re: #112 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

So the GOP is going to make the same sell that they made for Reagan, Bush, etc. Once they get into office they will throw the socon agenda under the bus when it comes to actually supporting social legislation.

Given the current nuttery in the House I think it won't occur. The social legislation will come from there anyways without the White House stumping for it. The difference will be that I doubt that a GOP White House will stand in the way and threaten a veto of any such legislation.

As noted, Romney's trying to make the same sell, but the difference is that the Tea Party intends to "keep him honest." If anybody honestly believes that a Romney presidency will be anything other than a rubber stamp for the nuts in the GOP ranks, then I got beachfront property in Nevada I'm selling for cheap.

117 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:51:10am
Every day, the right wing establishment shows us what they’re all about. Give that man an award!

Yeah, they're all about Principles. And Values. //

118 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:08:44am

re: #113 lawhawk

Are bath salts the reason for the zombie outbreak? That seems to be one of the common threads between a whole rash of cannabalistic crimes committed in the past couple of months, including the extremely graphic and brutal attack in Miami where a crazed man literally ate the face off another and had to be shot to stop him from causing still more damage.

Just in case, review the rules, use the double tap, and (don't) be a hero. /

I love how they start flinging blame before they even get the toxicology tests back. They started with "bath salts" but now they've moved onto Marijuana and "maybe" Ecstasy because he had water in his car. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it was a combination of both. The weed gave him the munchies and the E made want to hug the guys face so much he couldn't get enough.....

Reason sarcastically pointed out that he was also found with a Koran and a Bible and his mom said he always carried his bible with him. Therefore the one thing we know he was definitely under the influence of was religion.

119 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:15:43am

re: #116 Targetpractice

To be honest I'm starting to get very concerned about the economy. Most of the small business owners I know have been treading water the last couple of years, we can't afford for the economy to backslide and it certainly looks like it's headed in that direction.

I think you're right about the economic differences between Romney/Obama are pretty minimal. IMO, they're both big government politicians. My concern is that the repubs might take all 3 branches and I don't see that ending well. I won't be voting for Obama but I'm still hoping he pulls out a win. I have hope ( ..a little bit) that with a Dem president presiding over 2 republican legislative branches we might actual see the 3 of them get something done.

120 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:16:14am

re: #118 RogueOne

Forgot the link!

Exclusive: Causeway Cannibal Had Bible, Recently Smoked Pot When He Attacked
[Link: miami.cbslocal.com...]

121 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:18:27am

MSNBSad: Jon Stewart Laughs Through ‘All The Stages Of Grief’ In Wisconsin Coverage (video)
I got around to looking into the silly "Romney with a police uniform" story. It seems the attacks against Mitt are getting weaker and stranger.

122 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:19:26am

re: #121 Killgore Trout

The Stewart bit gave me the chuckles. I missed the police uniform story, what's that all about?

123 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:20:19am

re: #121 Killgore Trout

MSNBSad: Jon Stewart Laughs Through ‘All The Stages Of Grief’ In Wisconsin Coverage (video)
I got around to looking into the silly "Romney with a police uniform" story. It seems the attacks against Mitt are getting weaker and stranger.

What do you think a good thing to attack Romney would be? I'd prefer to go after his record of changing his mind whenever it's convenient for him.

124 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:22:10am

re: #123 HappyWarrior

I'd prefer to go after his record of changing his mind whenever it's convenient for him.

That's the best line of attack IMO. And, for pure snark value, his underwear//

125 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:22:55am

re: #122 RogueOne

The Stewart bit gave me the chuckles. I missed the police uniform story, what's that all about?

There are claims from classmates that Mitt had a police uniform as a freshman in college. MSNBC is inferring that he has some sort of secret and bizarre fetish for uniforms.

126 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:24:33am

re: #125 Killgore Trout

Maybe he was making beer decaf coffee money working as a Mormon stripper.

127 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:25:11am

re: #123 HappyWarrior

What do you think a good thing to attack Romney would be? I'd prefer to go after his record of changing his mind whenever it's convenient for him.

There are plenty of opening to attack him on policy. Especially the stuff he had to promise in the primaries that contradicts his past record. I think attacking him as a flip flopper might be ok but I think it would be best to just try to pin him down trying to explain himself.

128 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:25:57am

re: #126 RogueOne

Maybe he was making beer decaf coffee money working as a Mormon stripper.

Or maybe practicing to audition for the Village People.

129 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:26:35am

re: #124 RogueOne

That's the best line of attack IMO. And, for pure snark value, his underwear//

Agh I don't want to be thinking of any candidate's underwear but yeah that should be the line of attack. Point out that Romney has for example gone from saying he'd be better than Ted Kennedy on gay rights to signing NOM's pledge. Or his NYT op-ed about Detroit and his subsequent taking credit for Detroit's revival.

130 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:27:59am

re: #127 Killgore Trout

There are plenty of opening to attack him on policy. Especially the stuff he had to promise in the primaries that contradicts his past record. I think attacking him as a flip flopper might be ok but I think it would be best to just try to pin him down trying to explain himself.

Right, I agree with that. The Obama campaign has been focusing on that recently. I read an article about them pointing out that he had very little job growth as governor and the deficit increased. If they pointed that out, I think maybe more voters would realize that Mitt isn't as well suited for the economy as he makes himself out to be.

131 Interesting Times  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:28:09am

re: #119 RogueOne

I have hope ( ..a little bit) that with a Dem president presiding over 2 republican legislative branches we might actual see the 3 of them get something done.

Er...because it's worked so well so far? o_O The GOP are pure obstructionists. If they had the Senate as well, they'd be even worse than they are now. They would never under any circumstances "help" Obama get something done, unless that something is giving in to 100% of their demands. The GOP = hostage-takers.

132 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:28:43am

re: #128 Killgore Trout

Or maybe practicing to audition for the Village People.

A Mormon Village people bit for the Osmond Variety Hour on Utah PBS channel 40. All they'd have to do is add a kid in a white shirt, black tie, and a backpack.

133 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:28:54am

I think the worst thing to do is continue with the dog and police uniform stuff. It creates the appearance that there's no better angle to criticize Mitt with. He gets to continue platitudes and claim that he'd rather talk about policy. It doesn't look good to continue with this nonsense.

134 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:29:59am

Good morning lizards!

I think I have the rabbit problem fixed. Some furring strips and a couple rolls of chicken wire around the garden is keeping them out at the moment.

135 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:30:42am

re: #131 Interesting Times

Er...because it's worked so well so far? o_O The GOP are pure obstructionists. If they had the Senate as well, they'd be even worse than they are now. They would never under any circumstances "help" Obama get something done, unless that something is giving in to 100% of their demands. The GOP = hostage-takers.

The dems control the senate but that's about to change. If Clinton could get it done for 6 years Obama should be able to pull it off for a few.

136 Interesting Times  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:33:07am

re: #135 RogueOne

The dems control the senate but that's about to change. If Clinton could get it done for 6 years Obama should be able to pull it off for a few.

Gee, and just how did the GOP treat Clinton? I'm 99% sure they'll pull the exact same stunt with Obama, no matter how flimsy & frivolous or downright fraudulent the "reason".

137 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:36:21am

re: #134 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

I think I have the rabbit problem fixed. Some furring strips and a couple rolls of chicken wire around the garden is keeping them out at the moment.

Have you thought about harvesting some to keep the population down? A High powered air rifle would be cheap, effective and safe.

138 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:37:14am

Wow Ron Paul is actually admitting defeat. I didn't think humility was in the mad dwarf's vocabulary.

139 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:39:59am

re: #137 Killgore Trout

Have you thought about harvesting some to keep the population down? A High powered air rifle would be cheap, effective and safe.

I have been shooting BBs at them. They just jump when you hit them and hop a few feet. Chasing them away doesn't help either. They are all over in the mornings and evenings. My dogs like to chase the cat but have no interest in rabbits. If the fencing doesn't keep them out I will have to get a .22 rifle and shoot the fuckers.

140 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:41:09am

re: #138 HappyWarrior

Wow Ron Paul is actually admitting defeat. I didn't think humility was in the mad dwarf's vocabulary.

Paulbots heads exploding in 5...4...3...2...

141 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:43:15am

re: #138 HappyWarrior

Took him months to realize he had no shot at getting the nomination, and in that time, he did everything possible to potentially gum up the works at the convention.

Now? He'll spend the rest of his days working on getting his son into the White House - just you watch.

142 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:43:24am

re: #136 Interesting Times

I think you're making my point for me. They impeached the man and yet they were still able to get stuff through. CDFI, GATT, Welfare and Medicare Reform along with keeping spending in line with GDP and reducing our debt. He managed to get a lot of programs he wanted through Newt Gingrich and Co. I don't think Boehner will be as big of a pain in the ass.

What option do you think we have? Dem control of all 3 branches again? That's not going to happen. I'm telling you, the senate and house are both going to be under repub control after November. The only question is who is going to be pres. You and I both agree that having all 3 under repubs is not the way to go.

Stop raining on my hope!///

143 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:44:27am

re: #139 NJDhockeyfan

Have you thought about trapping? If you're feeling generous you can release them somewhere on your way to work, otherwise they make good eatin'.

144 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:45:31am

re: #143 RogueOne

Have you thought about trapping? If you're feeling generous you can release them somewhere on your way to work, otherwise they make good eatin'.

Eating them has crossed my mind. I had rabbit once in Colonial Williamsburg and it was very tasty.

145 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:46:05am

re: #123 HappyWarrior

What do you think a good thing to attack Romney would be? I'd prefer to go after his record of changing his mind whenever it's convenient for him.

The fact that he is weak-willed and reqdy to bend to whoever puts enough pressure on him.

And if he is elected that will be the Tea Party and the socon wing of the party.

146 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:46:51am

re: #143 RogueOne

Have you thought about trapping? If you're feeling generous you can release them somewhere on your way to work, otherwise they make good eatin'.

I talked to my hippie neighbors about that rats again. They are still upset that I'm killing them. They want me to live trap them and release them somewhere else. Insane.

147 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:48:38am

re: #144 NJDhockeyfan

Eating them has crossed my mind. I had rabbit once in Colonial Williamsburg and it was very tasty.

Do it. They're really good and easy to cook. If I were you I'd bag a whole bunch of them and fill up the freezer.

148 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:49:15am

re: #146 Killgore Trout

I talked to my hippie neighbors about that rats again. They are still upset that I'm killing them. They want me to live trap them and release them somewhere else. Insane.

Release them in their house.

149 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:49:20am

re: #141 lawhawk

Took him months to realize he had no shot at getting the nomination, and in that time, he did everything possible to potentially gum up the works at the convention.

Now? He'll spend the rest of his days working on getting his son into the White House - just you watch.

Yeah Rand's going to take his father's mantle and cult following.

150 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:49:29am

re: #148 NJDhockeyfan

Release them in their house.

lol

151 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:50:31am

re: #146 Killgore Trout

I talked to my hippie neighbors about that rats again. They are still upset that I'm killing them. They want me to live trap them and release them somewhere else. Insane.

I remember overhearing a conversation at the hardware store between two old ladies involving live traps. One commented that she never knew what to do with the critters she caught in her live traps.

"I usually just flush them down the toiled," replied the other...

152 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:53:06am

Rats are a different story, those things have to die. When it comes to killing animals I'm a complete wuss. I bought glue traps one year (because bashing their brains in with regular traps seemed unnecessarily cruel) and ended up spending 30 minutes working to free a little mouse I caught so I could let it go outside. I switched to poison bait. That way they crawl away somewhere else to die and helps keep my conscious clean.//

I don't like killing my own food but I'm glad there's someone to shoot Flower the Cow for me.

153 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 7:57:53am

re: #152 RogueOne

I don't like killing my own food but I'm glad there's someone to shoot Flower the Cow for me.

Sounds more morally upright to kil your own food but unless you truly live out in the toolies and have come from a family that knows how to slaughter, it is
probably not a good idea: [Link: www.slate.com...]

154 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:01:38am

DailyPaulbots comments are hilarious on the news of Luap Nor conceding the race...

Do you think the Bilderbergs
Submitted by shuleba on Thu, 06/07/2012 - 07:06. Permalink
Do you think the Bilderbergs have already decided who the next president shall be? Putting the taxpayers to the onerous expense of a democratic election is just to maintain the illusion that your vote matters. I cannot shake the cynicism that has taken hold of me. ...sorry!

...

The Bilderbergs don't care whether its Obama or Romney.
Submitted by jetmba on Thu, 06/07/2012 - 08:27. Permalink
If Romney gets the nod from the Republican party, the Bilderbergs work is already done.

...

Romney
Submitted by Peggy R on Thu, 06/07/2012 - 07:30. Permalink
is the next POTUS. The Bilderbergs have made their decision.

It's rigged and we all know it.

Bilderberg! It's rigged! LOL!

155 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:01:51am

re: #152 RogueOne

Rats are a different story, those things have to die. When it comes to killing animals I'm a complete wuss. I bought glue traps one year (because bashing their brains in with regular traps seemed unnecessarily cruel) and ended up spending 30 minutes working to free a little mouse I caught so I could let it go outside. I switched to poison bait. That way they crawl away somewhere else to die and helps keep my conscious clean.//

I don't like killing my own food but I'm glad there's someone to shoot Flower the Cow for me.

I'm a wuss too. I think I could shoot a wild rabbit but that's about it. I've thought about keeping rabbits, ducks or chickens for food but I think I'd probably just end up with a whole bunch of pets.

156 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:02:47am

re: #153 Expand Your Ground

Luckily for me, my generation was the first in the family to not live on a farm. G-Pa moved from the KY farm to Detroit when my mom was young.

I guess I could do it if I had to but if I want chicken I hit the grocery store. I have a friend whose family owns a small herd of cows. They slaughter a couple a year and I can get a good deal on fresh meat. Between the cows and deer season I don't know that he's ever actually bought meat.

157 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:04:55am

re: #154 NJDhockeyfan

DailyPaulbots comments are hilarious on the news of Luap Nor conceding the race...

Bilderberg! It's rigged! LOL!

Bildenberg!

158 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:10:13am

re: #155 Killgore Trout

I'm a wuss too. I think I could shoot a wild rabbit but that's about it. I've thought about keeping rabbits, ducks or chickens for food but I think I'd probably just end up with a whole bunch of pets.

I helped my uncle kill a bunch of his chickens when I was 9. It was pretty easy. We let one run around without a head. Funny as shit.

Fresh chicken cooked on the grill is unlike the stuff you get in the grocery store.

159 Interesting Times  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:10:22am

Yay plutocracy! Gilded age FTW!

160 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:11:41am

re: #159 Interesting Times

[Embedded content] Yay plutocracy! Gilded age FTW!

The nature of a post Citizens United world. Funny how spending is bad policy for the government in the GOP's mind but spending like a kid on his 21st birthday on their campaigns is cool.

161 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:11:47am

re: #134 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

I think I have the rabbit problem fixed. Some furring strips and a couple rolls of chicken wire around the garden is keeping them out at the moment.

Bunny Gulag!!1!!
///

162 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:14:53am

India eyes increased role in Afghanistan

India is among regional powers eyeing a larger role in Afghanistan as the US prepares to pull back. Some Afghans worry about becoming a proxy battleground for India and Pakistan.

Some interesting possibilities here. Pakistan is already interfering in Afghanistan and waging a proxy war against India in Kashmir. If we keep up the drone strikes to deplete the Taliban then India could step in and continue to squeeze and contain Pakistan's terrorism operations. It might be a great way to permanently contain Pakistan's destabilizing influence on the region.

163 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:19:24am

re: #162 Killgore Trout

India eyes increased role in Afghanistan

Some interesting possibilities here. Pakistan is already interfering in Afghanistan and waging a proxy war against India in Kashmir. If we keep up the drone strikes to deplete the Taliban then India could step in and continue to squeeze and contain Pakistan's terrorism operations. It might be a great way to permanently contain Pakistan's destabilizing influence on the region.

If I remember correctly, the administration has been boosting our ties with India. Good geopolitical thinking in my eyes.

164 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:19:41am

I work in a town with the smartest people in the country!

Report: Charlottesville Named America’s #1 Smartest City

Lumosity, an online brain training program, revealed Wednesday the top 25 smartest cities in America based on an analysis of its database of human cognition. Charlottesville ranked number one in the study.

...Below are the rankings of metropolitan areas and corresponding median percentiles, which represent the percentage of Americans the median users in that city scored higher than. For instance, the median percentile tells us that the median Lumosity user in Charlottesville had a higher score than 58.53% of Americans.

1. Charlottesville, Va. – 58.53%
2. Lafayette, In. – 58.41%
3. Anchorage, Alaska – 57.83%
4. Madison, Wis. – 56.84%
5. San Francisco – Oakland – San Jose, Calif. – 55.47%
6. Cedar Rapids – Waterloo – Iowa City – Dubuque, Iowa – 55.37%
7. Honolulu, Hawaii – 55.29%
8. Johnstown – Altoona, Pa. – 55.18%
9. Champaign – Springfield-Decatur, Ill. – 54.75%
10. Minneapolis – St. Paul, Minn. – 54.64%
11. Boston, MA – Manchester, N.H. – 54.49%
12. Austin, Texas – 54.18%
13. Rochester, N.Y. – 53.99%
14. Gainesville, Fla. – 53.97%
15. Fargo – Valley City, N.D. – 53.92%
16. Lansing, Mich. – 53.75%
17. Santa Barbara – Santa Maria – San Luis Obispo, Calif. – 53.73%
18. Burlington, Vt. – Plattsburgh, N.Y. – 53.72%
19. Pittsburgh, Pa. – 53.71%
20. Syracuse, N.Y. – 53.68%
21. Baton Rouge, La. – 53.58%
22. Columbia – Jefferson City, Mo. – 53.57%
22. La Crosse – Eau Claire, Wis. – 53.57%
24. Harrisburg – Lancaster – Lebanon – York, Pa. – 53.56%
25. Springfield – Holyoke, Mass. – 53.51%

165 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:20:05am

re: #162 Killgore Trout

That's not a particularly good thing - to bring India into the mix increases the chances of fighting erupting across the Line of Control or a skirmish between the two escalating into yet another war. After all, we're talking about two countries that have fought 5 wars and countless skirmishes with the loss of life since the two countries gained their independence.

India (like most of the rest of the world) definitely has interests in seeing a more stable Afghanistan, but they likewise need Pakistan to remain stable and to do more to police the frontier provinces. India can't force Pakistan to do that, but the US is in a position to cajole.

Pakistan's governance of the frontier provinces is one of the big reasons for the ongoing destablization in Afghanistan as well as Pakistan. It's a relief valve for Islamabad to allow the Islamists to hold sway there - and not focus their efforts on taking over the Pakistani government.

166 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:21:49am

Beer Run
[Link: reason.com...]

Former Edinburg, Texas, police officer Gilberto Montezano has pleaded guilty to official repression after taking a beer-filled ice chest from a driver during a traffic stop last year. He was sentenced to 18 months probation and a $500 fine. In 2010, Montezano was involved in a chase against traffic that ended with the suspect crashing into another vehicle, killing three of its occupants. That chase did not end his law enforcement career. Stealing the beer did.

Background on the chase:
[Link: www.themonitor.com...]

The chief said Montezano “made a judgment call” that night when he chose to pursue Tovar on the highway.

San Juan Police Investigator Rolando Garcia, whose agency is not involved in the Edinburg investigation, said it can often be difficult for officers to stop pursuits before the chase becomes dangerous.

“You start by thinking, ‘I want to get this guy’,” Garcia said. “That’s the key factor: Is the officer seeming a little bit too eager?”

Because no two chases are the same, it’s tough to say exactly when an officer should call off a pursuit. However, Garcia said, police must ensure that all chases are worth the crime initially committed.

Garcia said San Juan officers generally stop chasing burglary suspects if they can get close enough to the pursued vehicle to identify a license plate number.

“We need to take care of the community, the officer and the police department,” Garcia said. “The hardest thing for an officer to do is stop a pursuit.”

167 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:26:22am

Time to get back to work. Enjoy the day people!

168 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:28:00am

re: #164 NJDhockeyfan

Or, it's a sense that those towns play those games more than others. Slackers. /

169 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:35:07am

Woman charged with exposing privates at Pompano Beach intersection

POMPANO BEACH, Fla. -- A 35-year-old woman was arrested after stripping down at a Pompano Beach intersection and exposing her private parts.

Tracy Mabb was charged with exposing sexual organs in public and was being held in jail Wednesday on a $600 bond. She was also being held on a prior petit theft offense that allegedly took place April 8, according to Broward County court records.

Mabb began peeling off clothes while standing in the 800 block of South Dixie Highway about 5:40 p.m. Tuesday, according to a Broward Sheriff's Office report.

She pulled her long shirt up in front of drivers and pedestrians and exposed her entire body, including her breasts, vagina and buttocks, in a "complete vulgar and indecent manner," the report said.

She refused to put her shirt down and said, "I don't give a f---" about her actions, the report said.

Her mugshot is something else.

170 bratwurst  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:38:32am

re: #164 NJDhockeyfan

I work in a town with the smartest people in the country!

Report: Charlottesville Named America’s #1 Smartest City

Almost all of those towns have colleges or universities in them...what a bunch of snobs!

171 Interesting Times  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:39:41am
172 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:39:53am

re: #135 RogueOne

The dems control the senate but that's about to change. If Clinton could get it done for 6 years Obama should be able to pull it off for a few.

Clinton _was_ a Rockefeller Republican. Obama may be a center-right dem but he's still a real Democratic President. Also, his permanent tan is also there so that the Republicans will never work for him.

173 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:40:27am

re: #165 lawhawk

Ah, it seems there's an angle I hadn't noticed.
Pakistan Ponders Panetta's Visit to India

Independent security analyst Hasan-Askari Rizvi says that while Pakistan is still a regional player, the U.S. has other options, which means Pakistan's "relevance is decreasing."

He says Panetta’s talks with India on helping Afghanistan provide for its own security means Pakistan will have to ask itself what role it wants to play. “Will it continue with the current distrust and confrontation with the U.S., or it has to modify, keeping in view the kind of new developments that are taking place within the region," he said.

It looks like this is part of a hardball strategy against Pakistan to pressure them to play nice. If they don't get their shit together and start cooperating they are going to be surrounded by India. They are missing out on trade and development deals that are going to go to India instead. Pakistan needs to make a decision. If they decide to not cooperate we might as well had over Afghanist to India anyways because Pakistan is a useless ally.

174 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:49:48am

re: #119 RogueOne

I have hope ( ..a little bit) that with a Dem president presiding over 2 republican legislative branches we might actual see the 3 of them get something done.

Nope. The GOP's isn't somehow going to get more rational and willing to deal if they control the Senate, they're going to get even worse, and start pasing bills on the federal level in the way that have on the state-- anti-abortion, anti-labor, etc. That'll lead to Obama vetoing a ton of stuff, but the GOP will take hostages they way they have been doing and break any deals they make, as they've been doing.

Why do you think they'd get more rational if they also controlled the Senate?

175 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:51:20am

re: #173 Killgore Trout

Ah, it seems there's an angle I hadn't noticed.
Pakistan Ponders Panetta's Visit to India

Pakistan needs to make a decision. If they decide to not cooperate we might as well had over Afghanist to India anyways because Pakistan is a useless ally.

They have made their decision. They are just trying to escape the consequences of their decision...

176 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:54:26am

The new Tarantino movie looks pretty good
Trailer Django Unchained

Youtube Video
177 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:55:15am

re: #176 Killgore Trout

The new Tarantino movie looks pretty good
Trailer Django Unchained

[Embedded content]

Heard about that one. I really liked Inglorious Basterds. DiCaprio as a villain should be interesting but he's a very good actor.

178 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:57:58am

re: #174 Obdicut

Nope. The GOP's isn't somehow going to get more rational and willing to deal if they control the Senate, they're going to get even worse, and start pasing bills on the federal level in the way that have on the state-- anti-abortion, anti-labor, etc. That'll lead to Obama vetoing a ton of stuff, but the GOP will take hostages they way they have been doing and break any deals they make, as they've been doing.

Why do you think they'd get more rational if they also controlled the Senate?

It's not unlike what happened here in Va when the Republicans regained the state senate. Difference here is we have a Republican executive though. Plus I think McConnell's different from Dole, Lott, or Frist. Hasn't McConnell said bluntly that his goal is to limit the president to one term?

179 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:00:12am

re: #177 HappyWarrior

Heard about that one. I really liked Inglorious Basterds. DiCaprio as a villain should be interesting but he's a very good actor.

Leo can sure chew the scenery. I'm surprised he has never won an Academy Award.

180 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:02:31am

re: #179 Learned Mother of Zion

Leo can sure chew the scenery. I'm surprised he has never won an Academy Award.

I am too. It's funny. When I was a kid, I disliked him because of Titanic. But then I saw Gangs of New York which in my opinion is one of Scorsese's most underrated and my mind changed. And I have to admit it was cool to see him back with Kate Winslet and Kathy Bates as a supporting role in Revolutionary Road which I thought was fantastic.

181 Aye Pod  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:04:49am

Killgore OWS thread hijack alert

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Heh.

182 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:05:16am

re: #169 NJDhockeyfan
My kinda girl, no teeth
/

183 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:05:28am

re: #180 HappyWarrior

I am too. It's funny. When I was a kid, I disliked him because of Titanic. But then I saw Gangs of New York which in my opinion is one of Scorsese's most underrated and my mind changed. And I have to admit it was cool to see him back with Kate Winslet and Kathy Bates as a supporting role in Revolutionary Road which I thought was fantastic.

Titanic sucked because it was, you know, Titanic.

Leo was totally awesome in "The Aviator", GONY, and "J Edgar"

184 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:05:28am

re: #179 Learned Mother of Zion

He's got two Oscar bait roles coming out in Oscar season - Django Unchained and Baz Luhrman's Great Gatsby. He'll get his chances as both a lead actor and as supporting actor.

The Django Unchained movie seems to be a vehicle for Jaime Foxx and Chris Waltz, while the Great Gatsby allows Leo and Tobey Maguire to work their screen magic.

I thought Leo was quite good in The Aviator but should have won for Catch Me if You Can. At this point in his career, it seems that he can do no wrong in picking juicy roles.

185 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:06:59am

re: #181 Aye Pod

Meh.

186 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:07:15am

re: #177 HappyWarrior

It seems that Leo's role is almost a sendup of the Kenneth Branaugh role from Wild Wild West - over the top in badness.

187 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:08:13am

re: #177 HappyWarrior

Heard about that one. I really liked Inglorious Basterds. DiCaprio as a villain should be interesting but he's a very good actor.

The only Tarantino movies I didn't care for were the Kill Bill ones. There were some cool scenes but they just didn't appeal to me for some reason.

188 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:08:51am

re: #181 Aye Pod

Killgore OWS thread hijack alert

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Heh.

"The preceding was a self aggrandizing advertisement. Neither this station nor it's owners agree or disagree with the content"

From Wed Oct 5th, 2011 7:19am

Had that one in the holster for awhile, didjy!

189 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:09:12am

A certain RWNJ blogger has unleashed a tsunami of hate-tweets by pissing off the entire population of Poland.

190 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:09:16am

re: #185 Killgore Trout

Meh.

:)

191 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:10:27am

re: #187 Killgore Trout

Lars Ulrich (Metallica drummer) was offered to do the music for that movie but turned it down, he didn't understand the screenplay. He ended up loving the movie.

192 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:11:27am

West Bank mother to sue Hamas with the UN Human Rights Council

Woman does not recognise her own offspring, who were kidnapped seven years ago.

A West Bank mother who has been denied the right to see her two children for over seven years, says she is being punished by Hamas leaders for being a member of Fatah in her youth.

Feda’a Dablan, a Jordanian national, married a Gaza native and had two sons.

But following several failed attempts to reconcile the marriage, her husband sent her back to the West Bank without her children.

She took the case to court and won custody rights back when Palestinian courts were under the Palestinian Authority.

193 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:11:36am

Spaghetti squash is awesome, even leftover!

194 Aye Pod  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:11:37am

re: #185 Killgore Trout

re: #188 sattv4u2

"The preceding was a self aggrandizing advertisement. Neither this station nor it's owners agree or disagree with the content"

From Wed Oct 5th, 2011 7:19am

Had that one in the holster for awhile, didjy!

Sometimes a joke is just a joke. Lighten up Francis? :)

195 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:11:37am

re: #180 HappyWarrior

Gangs of New York

Love the scene where the gangs are about to square off and the elephants come rampaging through town!

196 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:13:01am

re: #194 Aye Pod

re: #188 sattv4u2

Sometimes a joke is just a joke. Lighten up Francis? :)

Hence, the italic section of 188 Sargent Hulka

197 RadicalModerate  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:13:52am

Well, who didn't see this coming?
So much for that "kinder, gentler neo-naziism" from Greece's Golden Dawn Party.

Greek far-right Golden Dawn MP wanted for assault

Greek prosecutors have issued an arrest warrant for the spokesman of the far-right Golden Dawn party after he slapped a left-wing politician in the face on live television.

Ilias Kasidiaris, who was elected to Greece's parliament in last month's elections, was debating with two female politicians on a chat show.

Video footage shows him throwing a glass of water at one of the women.

When the other intervened, he slapped her in the face three times.

Video of the incident here:

198 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:13:58am

re: #189 Learned Mother of Zion

What'd he do?

199 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:13:58am

re: #187 Killgore Trout

Mrs. Lawhawk isn't a big fan of the KB movies, but I find them fascinating to watch back to back. Huge fan of Reservoir Dogs and Pulp, and Jackie Brown is seriously underrated. Inglorious Basterds is quite good mixing up the humor with the blood satisfaction of a revenge fantasy (which could apply to KB, a rip roaring rampage of revenge).

200 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:14:46am

re: #189 Learned Mother of Zion

Oh, don't tease us like that - what'd the person do. Better yet, who did this.

201 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:17:52am

re: #199 lawhawk

Mrs. Lawhawk isn't a big fan of the KB movies, but I find them fascinating to watch back to back. Huge fan of Reservoir Dogs and Pulp, and Jackie Brown is seriously underrated. Inglorious Basterds is quite good mixing up the humor with the blood satisfaction of a revenge fantasy (which could apply to KB, a rip roaring rampage of revenge).

I was surprised how much I liked Death Proof. Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs are still my favorites.

202 Gus  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:18:35am

re: #200 lawhawk

Oh, don't tease us like that - what'd the person do. Better yet, who did this.

10 bucks sez it was Brooks Bayne.

203 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:19:47am

re: #201 Killgore Trout

The extended car chase is phenomenal and ranks up there with the great car chases in movie history (think Great Escape, French Connection, Italian Job, Matrix Reloaded, etc.) It was a homage to all the great stuntpeople through movie history.

204 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:21:38am

re: #201 Killgore Trout

Death Proof,, Never saw it/ heard of it

Pulp Fiction., Curiously interesting and entertaining

Reservoir Dogs ,, Never saw it

205 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:22:44am

re: #204 sattv4u2

You should see Reservoir Dogs. It really is a classic.

206 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:23:20am

Wonder how long it's going to take my body clock to adjust to my new schedule!

{grumble ,,, grumble grumble)

207 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:24:02am

re: #205 Killgore Trout

You should see Reservoir Dogs. It really is a classic.

Google Fu'ing it now

208 RadicalModerate  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:24:48am

re: #203 lawhawk

The extended car chase is phenomenal and ranks up there with the great car chases in movie history (think Great Escape, French Connection, Italian Job, Matrix Reloaded, etc.) It was a homage to all the great stuntpeople through movie history.

Wait. You list the CGI-enhanced Matrix Reloaded chase, but not Bullitt?

209 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:25:05am

re: #205 Killgore Trout

re: #207 sattv4u2

Google Fu'ing it now

Harvey Keitel

I'm sold!
Thanks

210 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:25:29am

re: #200 lawhawk

Oh, don't tease us like that - what'd the person do. Better yet, who did this.

Counselor Schlussel received a whole bunch of angry tweets from outraged Poles, I don't know what she said to piss them off so bad.

211 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:25:47am

re: #126 RogueOne

Maybe he was making beer decaf coffee money working as a Mormon stripper.

Or a village people tribute band.

212 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:26:05am

re: #203 lawhawk

don't forget the Blues Brothers car chase, epic.

213 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:26:23am

re: #203 lawhawk

The Matrix Reloaded scene made no sense. If they can move near-instantly and wraith-like along, why not just go to Neo's back seat and stab him in the ass?

I know, I know, the whole thing is pseudophilosophical gobbledegook so nothing has to make sense, but as a chase scene, when one of the groups can basically teleport it takes away from the drama of it.

214 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:26:23am

re: #128 Killgore Trout

Or maybe practicing to audition for the Village People.

Ha, GMTA

215 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:26:33am

WINGNUT OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE OF THE DAY:

Michelle Obama requires Photo ID at book signings!1!ty

216 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:26:44am

re: #212 Tommy's cone of shame

don't forget the Blues Brothers car chase, epic.

Best one ever.

Also, every episode of The Rockford Files, ever.

217 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:27:49am

re: #215 Learned Mother of Zion

At the same time, customers must also submit their social security number and show an official photo ID (driver’s license, passport) to a Secret Service agent, and they will be issued a wristband to the First Lady’s event on June 12.( Emphasis added)

Yeah. I'm sure this policy is set by Michelle, and not by the Secret Service.

For chrissakes.

218 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:29:36am

OT: Gorgeous time-lapse photo/video of New York City

219 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:29:36am

re: #216 Obdicut

Best one ever.

Also, every episode of The Rockford Files, ever.

And of course Bullitt.

Youtube Video
220 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:32:52am

re: #216 Obdicut

Best one ever.

Also, every episode of The Rockford Files, ever.

Dukes of Hazard

Image: The-General-Lee-550x302.jpg

221 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:33:08am

re: #212 Tommy's cone of shame

re: #208 RadicalModerate

That's why I included the etc. - no way I could mention every great car chase... and yeah, the Matrix is a CGI enhanced chase, but it did have strong visuals (even if it didn't make a whole lot of sense).

222 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:34:15am

re: #221 lawhawk

it did have strong visuals (even if it didn't make a whole lot of sense).
I once dated a girl like that

no,, wait ,, TWICE!!
//

223 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:35:38am

re: #221 lawhawk

re: #208 RadicalModerate

That's why I included the etc. - no way I could mention every great car chase... and yeah, the Matrix is a CGI enhanced chase, but it did have strong visuals (even if it didn't make a whole lot of sense).

I never get tired of watching the chase seen at the end of The Road Warrior.

224 GunstarGreen  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:39:07am

You see, the thing is, for right-wing partisans, there's no such thing as vile speech perpetrated by right-wingers. It simply does not exist, no matter what facts may say.

Was listening to Hannity the other day on the way home from work, hosting another one of his circle jerks with guests that won't question a single word he says, and he's going on and on about some left-wing radio host who called some right-winger a slut. I knew the topic of Rush's saying the exact same thing about Fluke wasn't going to come up, but I amused myself anyway keeping an ear out. They did not disappoint -- a good 10, 15 minutes of 'oh how terrible and vile this speech is!' without a single peep about the Supreme Leader's practice of the exact same.

What it must be like, I wonder, to have such well-trained mindslaves to play with.

225 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:39:07am

re: #218 lawhawk

OT: Gorgeous time-lapse photo/video of New York City

Thanks

I never tire of watching videos like that

226 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:44:36am

re: #221 lawhawk

Then there are the Bourne movie chases, such as this one:

Youtube Video
227 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:45:36am

Oh my, Barbara Walters has some splainin' to do...

"Syria's Kim Kardashian" And Barbara Walters Pal *Did* Get Into Columbia Grad School

Okay, is it time for Barbara Walters to walk back her claim that the former aide to Syrian dictator Bashar Assad didn't get into Columbia's School of International and Public Affairs? Because the school has confirmed that "Syria's Kim Kardashian"—a.k.a. Sheherazad Jaafari—has been accepted into its program. FYI, SIPA doesn't have classes in genocide!

Hackers released emails from Jaafari's account, which showed a very friendly relationship the 22-year-old had with Walters where Jaafari, the daughter of Syria's ambassador to the U.N., asked her for help in landing a job at CNN. Also, Walters asks if Jaafari is still planning on attending Columbia graduate school and offers to help her—of course Jaafari said yes to that.

Thinking that Jaafari was intending on applying to the Journalism School, Walters ended up contacted Columbia J School Professor Richard Wald (Wald is a former ABC News executive about Jaafari—"She is brilliant, beautiful, speaks five languages. Anything you can do to help?"—and Wald wrote back, "Through the Admissions Office network, I will get them to give her special attention. I am sure they will take her."

On Tuesday, Walters apologized, "I did offer to mention her to contacts at another media organization and in academia, though she didn’t get a job or into school. In retrospect, I realize that this created a conflict and I regret that," but a Columbia spokesperson says, "Ms. Jaafari was admitted based solely on the submitted application materials. We cannot comment on an individual applicant’s materials, which are confidential."

Jaafari, who helped set up the ABC News exclusive with Assad, was fired because Assad felt blindsided by Walters' questions.

228 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 9:55:02am

Heh. I haven't been watching movies much. But over Memorial Day weekend I got caught up a bit due to my brother's DVD collection.

Leo - Inception
sorta Tarintino - Machete
(and to round out the "Michelle Rodriguez film festival" as my brother termed it.)
Avatar (aka Dances with Smurfs)

229 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:01:10am

re: #224 GunstarGreen

You see, the thing is, for right-wing partisans, there's no such thing as vile speech perpetrated by right-wingers. It simply does not exist, no matter what facts may say.

Was listening to Hannity the other day on the way home from work, hosting another one of his circle jerks with guests that won't question a single word he says, and he's going on and on about some left-wing radio host who called some right-winger a slut. I knew the topic of Rush's saying the exact same thing about Fluke wasn't going to come up, but I amused myself anyway keeping an ear out. They did not disappoint -- a good 10, 15 minutes of 'oh how terrible and vile this speech is!' without a single peep about the Supreme Leader's practice of the exact same.

What it must be like, I wonder, to have such well-trained mindslaves to play with.

Same thing happened when Rahm Emanuel called liberal democrats retarded blowing off steam in private and then Limbaugh retorted that they really are retarded. Guess which one Palin got upset about. Yeah the one in private but the one on the airwaves was okay because "he was using satire." Jonathan Swift, Rush is not and will never be.

230 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:01:38am

re: #228 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Heh. I haven't been watching movies much. But over Memorial Day weekend I got caught up a bit due to my brother's DVD collection.

Leo - Inception
sorta Tarintino - Machete
(and to round out the "Michelle Rodriguez film festival" as my brother termed it.)
Avatar (aka Dances with Smurfs)

Michelle Rodriguez is a hottie.

231 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:03:24am

re: #228 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Heh. I haven't been watching movies much. But over Memorial Day weekend I got caught up a bit due to my brother's DVD collection.

Leo - Inception
sorta Tarintino - Machete
(and to round out the "Michelle Rodriguez film festival" as my brother termed it.)
Avatar (aka Dances with Smurfs)

I loved Inception. Plus I always get cool dreams afterwards like using a meta-pickup line and succeeding.

232 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:04:25am

re: #218 lawhawk

OT: Gorgeous time-lapse photo/video of New York City

After 13+ years of living in NYC & environs, the sight of it still never fails to take my breath away and make my heart race. There truly is no other place like it on Earth.

233 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:05:10am

Hmmm...just got a spam email from twitter containing tweets of people I follow. I stopped using twitter a long time ago but kept my account. Looks like it's time to close that account. Buh-bye, Twitter.

234 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:09:37am

Charles Johnson

That "Bizarro 5 President @AceofSpadesHQ" sounds so "reasonable." He will so no reward "hatred"

In all seriousness if that's what passes for his sense of humor, he'd make a horrible comedian.

235 Aye Pod  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:09:58am

Mitt Romney Is a Narc

What's it like to be Mitt Romney's neighbor? Pretty shitty, according to a Times article about the candidate's $12 million, three-bedroom house (once occupied by Richard Gere) in the San Diego suburb of La Jolla. For one thing, he is trying to "quadruple the size" of the house, which is annoying to everyone. And for another thing, he is a dick about people smoking pot on the beach

236 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:10:57am

Finally, Someone Figured Out How to Make a Helicopter Out of a Dead Cat

237 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:11:40am

re: #236 NJDhockeyfan

But will it bounce?

238 Interesting Times  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:13:16am

re: #236 NJDhockeyfan

Finally, Someone Figured Out How to Make a Helicopter Out of a Dead Cat

#newPentagonDronePrograms

239 dragonath  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:13:55am

Uh oh, somebody's doing a Robocop remake:

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

240 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:16:18am

re: #239 Be Zorch, Daddio

Come quietly.... or there will be..... trouble... on the muthafrakking plane. /

241 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:17:09am

re: #239 Be Zorch, Daddio

Uh oh, somebody's doing a Robocop remake:

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Since remakes are required to be worse than the original, I'm scared of this. How can anyone make a Paul Verhoeven movie worse? Is Uwe Boll directing?

//only half...

242 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:17:19am

re: #237 lawhawk

But will it bounce?

Check it out...

Approximately one half year ago, Orville, the pet tabby cat of Dutch artist Bart Jansen, sadly met his end when he was struck by a car. "We were very sad, and we mourned for a couple of days," says Jansen. "But then I thought we'd make a tribute to his name, and honor him by making him fly."

And how did Jansen do this? By having Orville taxidermied and turned into a remote-controlled helicopter. Now, writes Jansen on his website, Orville can "fly with the birds; oh how he loved the birds."

The Orville-copter was recently revealed at the KunstRai art fair in Amsterdam and viral fame followed soon after (Orville already has its own theme song). As is often the case, popularity has come with its fair share of detractors, PETA being among the most vocal. Says one PETA spokesperson, "It's a macabre way to honor a beloved family member. This is sick. Lay the poor cat to rest."

Jansen, however, will continue to honor Orville (and insult PETA) in his own way — by giving the cat more powerful propellers.

Fly on, Orville. Fly on.

243 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:18:54am

re: #239 Be Zorch, Daddio

Uh oh, somebody's doing a Robocop remake:

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Youtube Video
244 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:20:47am

re: #235 Aye Pod

Mitt Romney Is a Narc

You'd surprised me more if this was a story about him being laid back. He comes across as an uptight ass.

245 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:21:46am

re: #210 Learned Mother of Zion

Counselor Schlussel received a whole bunch of angry tweets from outraged Poles, I don't know what she said to piss them off so bad.

I'm sure Schlussel richly deserves whatever she's getting.

I watched her live, in action for the first time the other day. Pretty much everything that comes out of her keyboard is a vile insult. She absolutely savaged a conservative Jewish woman with the worst sort or defamatory, misogynistic abuse simply because she disagreed with her. She's a barbarian in every sense of the word. I'd say she's even worse than Geller, and you know how I feel about her.

246 dragonath  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:22:05am

re: #243 Kragar

Top Comment:

Breitbart's role model.
heubler1 3 months ago 21

247 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:23:43am

re: #245 CuriousLurker

I'm sure Schlussel richly deserves whatever she's getting.

I watched her live, in action for the first time the other day. Pretty much everything that comes out of her keyboard is a vile insult. She absolutely savaged a conservative Jewish woman with the worst sort or defamatory, misogynistic abuse simply because she disagreed with her. She's a barbarian in every sense of the word. I'd say she's even worse than Geller, and you know how I feel about her.

She's pretty bad but I don't know if I'd say worse than Geller. I don't know about Debbie alligning herself with openly fascist groups. Not to say I don't think she's nasty, I do. I'd wager to say most talk radio hosts are jerks though.

248 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:24:37am

re: #245 CuriousLurker

She absolutely savaged a conservative Jewish woman

Who was this conservative woman?

249 Interesting Times  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:27:34am

re: #245 CuriousLurker

I'd say she's even worse than Geller, and you know how I feel about her.

Agreed. Geller at least manages to be unintentionally hilarious. Schlussel is just plain vile (ever notice how "vile" and "evil" have the same letters? How apropos).

250 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:29:58am

re: #249 Interesting Times

Agreed. Geller at least manages to be unintentionally hilarious. Schlussel is just plain vile (ever notice how "vile" and "evil" have the same letters? How apropos).

True, Pam's more a trainwreck in the funny sense like when she claims Malcolm X was Obama's real biological father. Ignoring that in fact makes him a citizen or when she tried to say there's a prohibition against children of unwed couples. Not that experience with Ms. Schlussel I must say though since Charles gives us a lot of Geller laughs.

251 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:30:29am

re: #248 Learned Mother of Zion

Who was this conservative woman?

I don't remember her nic, but it went on for at least an hour.

252 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:30:55am

re: #236 NJDhockeyfan

That is so sad and creepy. I saw that, wanted to give him a (proverbial) slap in the face.

253 dragonath  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:31:20am

Megan McArdle will be SO disappointed:

Breaking: Pacific Institute Reinstates Peter Gleick After Outside Review Confirms His Public Statements On Heartland Affair

254 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:33:25am

UN springs into action
Pakistan advised to seek official investigation into US drone strikes

The United Nation's most senior human rights official has advised Pakistan to seek an official UN investigation into whether US drone strikes in the country are legal.

Navi Pillay, the UN's high commissioner for human rights, told Pakistan's prime minister he should invite the UN's special rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions to visit the country to examine the legality of missile attacks by remote controlled aircraft in the troubled tribal areas near the Afghan border.

The fact finding work of the UN's rapporteurs can often embarrass governments with their far reaching investigations into allegations of human rights abuses.

"Drone attacks do raise serious questions about compliance with international law," Pillay told a press conference in Islamabad.

"Ensuring accountability for any failure to comply with international law is also difficult when drone attacks are conducted outside the military chain of command and beyond effective and transparent mechanisms of civilian or military control."

255 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:36:41am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

She's pretty bad but I don't know if I'd say worse than Geller. I don't know about Debbie alligning herself with openly fascist groups. Not to say I don't think she's nasty, I do. I'd wager to say most talk radio hosts are jerks though.

She has praised Kahane (Google cache link). That's close enough for me.

256 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:39:34am

re: #254 Killgore Trout

UN springs into action
Pakistan advised to seek official investigation into US drone strikes

UN = United Nonsense

257 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:41:18am

re: #249 Interesting Times

Looks like her site is down. Oopsie! Must've pissed off the wrong people this time.

258 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:41:39am

Update on a story someone mentioned yesterday: Condemned Pakistan wedding women alive

"The girls said they are fine. They are under no threat and they have no fear," Mian Iftikhar Hussain told reporters, quoting the human rights activist Bari.

"The village elders assured us that the girls would suffer no harm," he added.

Precise details of the case have been shrouded in mystery.

Police say the scandal was rooted in tribal rivalry, saying the video was recorded three years ago and then edited in an attempt to implicate the party goers.

259 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:44:25am

re: #255 CuriousLurker

She has praised Kahane (Google cache link). That's close enough for me.

Ah okay absolutely then.

260 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:46:04am

re: #254 Killgore Trout

"Ensuring accountability for any failure to comply with international law is also difficult when drone attacks are conducted outside the military chain of command and beyond effective and transparent mechanisms of civilian or military control."

Outside military command? That's a damn lie. Our President authorizes the strikes or his generals do. He's so unhappy with drone strikes, fine let's deploy manned bombers with a big CAP. Make the tribal mountains a no fly zone.

261 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:48:15am

re: #260 Daniel Ballard

Outside military command? That's a damn lie. Our President authorizes the strikes or his generals do. He's so unhappy with drone strikes, fine let's deploy manned bombers with a big CAP. Make the tribal mountains a no fly zone.

Not all drones are Department of Defense assets.

262 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:50:59am

re: #260 Daniel Ballard

Outside military command? That's a damn lie. Our President authorizes the strikes or his generals do. He's so unhappy with drone strikes, fine let's deploy manned bombers with a big CAP. Make the tribal mountains a no fly zone.

It's all pretty silly. I'm not sure if they have a technical point. We are conducting military operations in a country without their permission but I don't know what the rules are. There also might be some legal issues under international law regarding the assassinations and hit lists. It really doesn't make much difference because nobody's going to stop it anyways.

263 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:51:16am

re: #261 Decatur Deb

Not all drones are Department of Defense assets.

Ah, good point.

264 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:53:49am

re: #261 Decatur Deb

That's why I mentioned the President. National Command Authority. NSA/CIA is all under his direction. He has the kill list. This ain't no rouge operation. I'm with Panetta on this one. They can clean house or we will do it for them. If civilians are hanging out with militant leaders, well it's damn risky behavior.

To me our drone attacks (legally) are the same as if the USAF got ongoing target packages from CIA and did it with planes or helicopters.

265 dragonath  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:55:33am

Scott Walker: Heartland Institute Keynote Speaker

266 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:55:43am

This could become a major problem for the WH...

FBI looks into possible White House leaks

(CNN) -- The FBI has launched an investigation into apparent leaks of classified information involving a cyberwarfare program against Iran, a U.S. official said Wednesday.

FBI spokesman Paul Bresson had no comment on the reported investigation.

Sen. Saxby Chambliss, ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said he was informed that an FBI inquiry was under way.

The senator from Georgia and other leaders of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees issued a joint statement Tuesday deploring the apparent leaks.

"In recent weeks, we have become increasingly concerned at the continued leaks regarding sensitive intelligence programs and activities, including specific details of sources and methods," said Chambliss; Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein, D-California; Chairman Mike Rogers, R-Michigan; and Ranking Member C.A. "Dutch" Ruppersberger, D-Maryland, in the statement.

"These disclosures have seriously interfered with ongoing intelligence programs and have put at jeopardy our intelligence capability to act in the future. Each disclosure puts American lives at risk, makes it more difficult to recruit assets, strains the trust of our partners and threatens imminent and irreparable damage to our national security in the face of urgent and rapidly adapting threats worldwide."

267 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:59:00am

re: #264 Daniel Ballard

That's why I mentioned the President. National Command Authority. NSA/CIA is all under his direction. He has the kill list. This ain't no rouge operation. I'm with Panetta on this one. They can clean house or we will do it for them. If civilians are hanging out with militant leaders, well it's damn risky behavior.

To me our drone attacks (legally) are the same as if the USAF got ongoing target packages from CIA and did it with planes or helicopters.

Morally, yes.
Legally, maybe.
Diplomatically, no.

268 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:59:30am

re: #260 Daniel Ballard

The UAVs are under the command of either the CIA or USAF, depending on the mission/target. There's coordination to some extent between the two, but it's also competitive as both want the ability to claim that they got the big targets.

R/MQ-1 Predators and MQ-9 Reapers are in use by both the CIA and USAF.

Since most airstrikes will not be confirmed by the military or CIA, each can use the other to claim plausible deniability over the attacks/assets involved and who the targets were unless they verify the target was eliminated.

269 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:01:36am

re: #267 Decatur Deb

Morally, yes.
Legally, maybe.
Diplomatically, no.

If I could post a period in a one point font, I could show you the faith I have in the Diplo view.

270 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:01:45am

re: #266 NJDhockeyfan

This could become a major problem for the WH...

FBI looks into possible White House leaks

Maybe, but these things usually end up as a partisan derpfest. Administrations leak things, often for public relations reasons. The article last week about Obama overseeing the kill list was almost certainly an intentional "leak" from the White House. It was their best campaign commercial yet.

271 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:03:38am

re: #269 Daniel Ballard

If I could post a period in a one point font, I could show you the faith I have in the Diplo view.

It's the level of ambiguity that makes Bin Ladin dead.

272 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:07:28am

re: #268 lawhawk

I don't see that as disagreeing with my point. CIA and NSA are directly under the NCA. Which IMO invalidates the UN dudes point at least 95%.

273 jharp  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:52:00pm

Registered here some time ago. Rarely post. And should visit more often.

Anyways. Just thought I'd say thanks and have noticed the good work you have been doing.


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