Mitt Romney Impersonated a Policeman and Stopped Drivers

The weirdest story yet about Romney’s privileged early life
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This is definitely the strangest (and possibly the most disturbing) story yet to surface about Mitt Romney’s college days: Did Young Mitt Romney Impersonate A Police Officer? Another Witness Says Yes.

When Mitt Romney was a college freshman, he told fellow residents of his Stanford University dormitory that he sometimes disguised himself as a police officer – a crime in many states, including Michigan and California, where he then lived. And he had the uniform on display as proof.

So recalls Robin Madden, who had also just arrived as a freshman, the startling incident began when Romney called him and two or three other residents into his room, saying, “Come up, I want to show you something.” When they entered Romney’s room, “and laid out on his bed was a Michigan State Trooper’s uniform.”

Madden, a native Texan who graduated from Stanford in 1970 and went on to become a successful television producer and writer, has never forgotten that strange moment, which he has recounted to friends over the years as he observed his former classmate’s political ascent. The National Memo learned of the incident from a longtime Madden friend to whom he had mentioned it years ago.

Said Madden in a recent interview, “He told us that he had gotten the uniform from his father,” George Romney, then the Governor of Michigan, whose security detail was staffed by uniformed troopers. “He told us that he was using it to pull over drivers on the road. He also had a red flashing light that he would attach to the top of his white Rambler.”

In Madden’s recollection, confirmed by his wife Susan, who also attended Stanford during those years, “we thought it was all pretty weird. We all thought, ‘Wow, that’s pretty creepy.’ And after that, we didn’t have much interaction with him,” although both Madden and Romney were prep school boys living in the same dorm, called Rinconada.

Other eyewitnesses have previously recalled Romney’s alleged use of a police or trooper uniform in pranks during his high school years at the exclusive Cranbrook School in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan.

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219 comments

1 The Left  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:57:01am

Definitely creepy.

2 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:58:49am

Yeah, that's creepy all right. I guess this is what they mean when they say Mitt actually has a great sense of humor and isn't wooden at all.

3 Ming  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:59:13am

Wow. This reminds me of something I saw today in Andrew Sullivan's blog: [Link: andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com...] "Mr. Romney and his wife take regular walks around La Jolla, exchanging pleasantries with fellow strollers and occasionally enforcing the law. A young man in town recalled that Mr. Romney confronted him as he smoked marijuana and drank on the beach last summer, demanding that he stop..."

More "pranks" from Mitt Romney.

4 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 10:59:17am

Oh, just some crime from his youth. Did you know Obama ate DOG?

5 thatthatisis  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:00:08am

Romney is one peculiar dude.

BTW, I'm out in RI attending the DKos convention. Last year Andrew Breitbart crashed the assembly to cause trouble. This year we've already had a troll with a video camera making trouble. No evidence she was from Breitbart yet

And it's only the first day.

6 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:01:29am

Its good to be the King!

7 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:02:38am

Maybe Mitt should have became a cop. Oh wait, there's not as much money in that.

8 simoom  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:04:14am

Ever since Politico added their White House covering subsection, "Politico 44," I've always found it have an even hackier, more fox/RW-spin than the rest of Politico. I think they've finally gone so far over the line though that it's time for someone to be fired. This is currently their "Most Read" story on Politico:

Obama's joke?

President Obama, in Los Angeles for a fundraiser, offered this observation on his wife's exercise routine, via the pool report:

“Michelle outdoes me in pushups as well,” he said, after saying that she’s taken some criticism on her technique “because she doesn’t go all the way down” – a line that he let hang, naughtily, provoking laughter from the crowd.

That's the entire story. They add no further context of any sort. Note how Politico's paraphrasing reorders things to make the joke about Obama and Michelle. You almost have to assume this is intentionally deceptive and malicious editing as those quotes were pulled from the President introducing Ellen DeGeneres at a GLBT fundraiser, where he was referencing a push-up contest Ellen and Michelle had on Ellen's show:

I want to thank my wonderful friend who accepts a little bit of teasing about Michelle beating her in pushups -- (laughter) -- but I think she claims Michelle didn’t go all the way down. (Laughter.) That's what I heard. I just want to set the record straight -- Michelle outdoes me in pushups as well. (Laughter.) So she shouldn’t feel bad. She's an extraordinary talent and she's just a dear, dear friend -- Ellen DeGeneres. Give Ellen a big round of applause.

So Politico entirely removed Ellen DeGeneres from their paraphrasing, which is important as Politico's innuendo makes no sense if you leave the President saying Ellen as the source of the complaint that the First Lady only did partial push-ups.

I don't know, I'm still shaking my head at this one.

9 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:06:12am

re: #7 HappyWarrior

Maybe Mitt should have became a cop. Oh wait, there's not as much money in that.

Cops are a bunch of overpaid union thugs!
///

10 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:07:44am

re: #9 Kragar

Cops are a bunch of overpaid union thugs!
///

It's not a real job because it's not in the private sector.//

11 Big Steve  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:07:48am

sorry but something reported third hand from a bunch of 19 year olds 45 years ago.....means nothing.

12 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:09:39am

re: #11 Big Steve

sorry but something reported third hand from a bunch of 19 year olds 45 years ago...means nothing.

Ahhh, same as a birth announcement in a newspaper 50 years ago?

13 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:10:33am

re: #1 Millicent Islam

Definitely creepy.

That is serial-killer strength creepy.

14 Big Steve  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:12:53am

re: #12 RayFerd

Ahhh, same as a birth announcement in a newspaper 50 years ago?

yes equally irrelevant and equally irrelevant as future Presidents smoking dope when they were 19

15 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:12:59am

If this is true, and three or four eyewitnesses is enough for a first-report burden of proof, I am utterly dumbfounded. The rules just never did apply to Mitt, did they?

I'm not sure if I'm say his feelings for authority were contempt, utter disregard, or complete lack of worldliness. None of them are complementary.

16 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:13:15am

re: #11 Big Steve

sorry but something reported third hand from a bunch of 19 year olds 45 years ago...means nothing.

I don't get it either. Remember the guy who said he smoked crack and gave Obama a blow job?

17 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:13:40am

re: #14 Big Steve

yes equally irrelevant and equally irrelevant as future Presidents smoking dope when they were 19

Impersonating a police officer and pulling people over is the same as lighting a joint in your room? No pun intended, but are you high?

18 SpaceJesus  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:13:45am

One of his programmers must have forgotten to remove Robocop.dll from Mittbots registry back in his prototype days

19 Big Steve  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:16:39am

re: #17 erik_t

Impersonating a police officer and pulling people over is the same as lighting a joint in your room? No pun intended, but are you high?

Just commenting on the veracity not the crime. Again 19 year olds bullshitting around their dorm and then suddenly this is all remembered 45 years later....would you invest your money in this?

20 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:17:56am

re: #19 Big Steve

Just commenting on the veracity not the crime. Again 19 year olds bullshitting around their dorm and then suddenly this is all remembered 45 years later...would you invest your money in this?

These are college students, not twelve year olds. If three or more of them told me that they personally saw it, yes, I would believe them unless I had some reason not to.

'It's been a while' is not a very compelling reason.

21 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:19:04am

re: #19 Big Steve

Just commenting on the veracity not the crime. Again 19 year olds bullshitting around their dorm and then suddenly this is all remembered 45 years later...would you invest your money in this?

Also, even if this is 100% true nobody is going to care aside from the people who already hate Mitt.

22 Big Steve  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:19:51am

re: #20 erik_t

These are college students, not twelve year olds. If three or more of them told me that they personally saw it, yes, I would believe them unless I had some reason not to.

'It's been a while' is not a very compelling reason.

Well I have one of those creatures (a 19 year old) at home from college living with me and truth and him at not the best of buddies at times.

23 Big Steve  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:21:58am

re: #21 Killgore Trout

Also, even if this is 100% true nobody is going to care aside from the people who already hate Mitt.

Absolutely.....it is more of the 'hooray for our side" stuff of presidential elections. If our guy does it....it is understandable, but if that other sons of bitch does it I'll rip his nads off.

24 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:22:16am

It seems like a weird thing to make up. Honestly, I'd rather attack Romney on the issues but if this is true, I would love to hear what on earth he was thinking. There's pranks and then there's crap like that. Kind of like the hair thing. Young Romney seems a lot like old Romney, a prick with a sense of self-entitlement because of who Dad was.

25 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:24:20am

re: #23 Big Steve

Absolutely...it is more of the 'hooray for our side" stuff of presidential elections. If our guy does it...it is understandable, but if that other sons of bitch does it I'll rip his nads off.

I'll tell you bluntly, if I found out Obama was impersonating a cop as a college student, I'd be wondering the same I do now. Now if it came out Romney smoked pot or boozed heavily, I'd be shocked but only because of his religious background. Sorry but I am not buying that this is simply partisan driven.Your average 19 year old doesn't do crap like this.

26 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:24:52am

North Dakota Constitutional Amendment says you can ignore any law you like if its a "religious burden"

Government may not burden a person’s or religious organization’s religious liberty. The right to act or refuse to act in a manner motivated by a sincerely held religious belief may not be burdened unless the government proves it has a compelling governmental interest in infringing the specific act or refusal to act and has used the least restrictive means to further that interest. A burden includes indirect burdens such as withholding benefits, assessing penalties, or an exclusion from programs or access to facilities.

To translate this a bit, many states and the federal government exempt religious believers from some laws that “substantially burden” their religious faith. The North Dakota initiative, however, targets any law that merely “burdens” a person’s religious faith. In other words, even the most minor inconveniences to religious practices would be suspect under the initiative. A person who is running late to church could claim it is illegal to make them obey traffic lights.

Seriously? This is what we've come to in this country?

27 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:25:45am

re: #26 Kragar

North Dakota Constitutional Amendment says you can ignore any law you like if its a "religious burden"

Seriously? This is what we've come to in this country?

Too bad there aren't much Rastas in North Dakota.

28 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:27:14am

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Too bad there aren't much Rastas in North Dakota.

Khorne demands blood and skulls. Its a religious obligation.
/

29 Gus  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:27:44am

What's the big deal about Romney allegedly impersonating a police officer when he was 19? I mean it's not like he was some black kid impersonating a police officer.

30 dragonath  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:31:16am

I wonder if this was his car?

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31 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:31:25am

re: #26 Kragar

North Dakota Constitutional Amendment says you can ignore any law you like if its a "religious burden"

Seriously? This is what we've come to in this country?

I'd like to know some specifics about what laws in particular impose a "religious burden." In Judaism dina demalchusa dina (the law of the land is the law) unless it specifically contradicts a command in the Torah. For example, requiring all citizens to participate in some public activity on Saturday, or a law prohibiting circumcision or kosher slaughter. But no such laws exist in the U.S.

32 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:31:48am

re: #25 HappyWarrior

I'll tell you bluntly, if I found out Obama was impersonating a cop as a college student, I'd be wondering the same I do now. Now if it came out Romney smoked pot or boozed heavily, I'd be shocked but only because of his religious background. Sorry but I am not buying that this is simply partisan driven.Your average 19 year old doesn't do crap like this.

Absolutely agree. If it came out that Obama did something like this, it would be a serious issue for me. This is way beyond a simple "prank," and any college student who did something like this today would probably be facing serious consequences. Impersonating a police office and stopping drivers is not "normal" college student behavior by anyone's measure.

33 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:33:31am

re: #30 Be Zorch, Daddio

I wonder if this was his car?

Image: 7146826347_fc08e340de_z.jpg

That can't be right. I have it on good authority that all police cars have always been and shall always be Ford Crown Victorias. I fully believe that any driver between the ages of 20 and 35 has an innate ability to spot a Crown Victoria profile, even with a low-profile lightbar, from at least a half mile.

Crown Vics for always and always, forever and ever amen.

34 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:33:35am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Absolutely agree. If it came out that Obama did something like this, it would be a serious issue for me. This is way beyond a simple "prank," and any college student who did something like this today would probably be facing serious consequences. Impersonating a police office and stopping drivers is not "normal" college student behavior by anyone's measure.

I just graduated. I saw my fair share of pranks. This is by far the strangest I've ever heard of. It's nothing like smoking a joint. Not even in the same universe really.

35 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:34:22am

re: #31 Learned Mother of Zion

I'd like to know some specifics about what laws in particular impose a "religious burden." In Judaism dina demalchusa dina (the law of the land is the law) unless it specifically contradicts a command in the Torah. For example, requiring all citizens to participate in some public activity on Saturday, or a law prohibiting circumcision or kosher slaughter. But no such laws exist in the U.S.

Any law requiring them to treat homosexuals or women as real human beings is a burden.

36 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:34:45am

re: #34 HappyWarrior

I just graduated. I saw my fair share of pranks. This is by far the strangest. It's nothing like smoking a joint. Not even in the same universe really.

Pranks are things you play on friends. Unless this was done out in the middle of nowhere and absolutely didn't involve third parties in any way, calling it a 'prank' is disingenuous at best.

37 Gus  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:35:48am

Yeah. Who cares what "they" did 43 years ago...

Insider Report: Hillary's College Thesis Revealed!!!

I see. So a college thesis [still] matters but impersonating a cop?

38 jamesfirecat  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:36:08am

re: #28 Kragar

Khorne demands blood and skulls. Its a religious obligation.
/

///Slaanesh demands santorum.

39 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:36:24am

Mediate has more on the story, and the fact is that the WaPo reported portions of this story in its coverage of Romney's bullying tactics. It was an off-hand comment that got short shrift in comparison to the bullying, but it has importance of its own. It also addresses how Romney and entitlement rub shoulders:

Conason’s reporting, though, does add an extra layer to this. Lawrence O’Donnell was overselling a bit when he said Romney had a “fetish” for uniforms, but the specific detail of the state trooper’s uniform, laid out on the bed years after the prank everybody already knows about, ratchets up the weirdness factor considerably.

Whether the story catches on depends on what people think it reveals about Romney. In selling this story (by selling, I mean shaping its importance; The reporting itself is solid), Conason and O’Donnell use the uniform as the pivot point to Romney’s avoidance of service in Vietnam. It’s an obvious choice, but shallow; it doesn’t really track beyond that surface similarity.

The detail that is revealing is that the uniform was given to Romney by his father, George Romney, rather than being earned through skill and public service. That theme, the desire to wield unearned power, and a broader sense of entitlement, resonates much more strongly, and encompasses Romney’s avoidance of service in Vietnam. Romney’s support for the draft, even as he went on to avoid it, isn’t so much an indication of hypocrisy as it is of that sense of entitlement. Of course, Romney can support drafting other people’s children, husbands, and fathers to die in Vietnam, yet not go himself; that’s not what Romneys are for. No one suggests that a cattle rancher should submit himself for milking or slaughter, do they?

It goes to character, judgment, and authority (and how to deal with it).

40 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:36:26am

re: #36 erik_t

Pranks are things you play on friends. Unless this was done out in the middle of nowhere and absolutely didn't involve third parties in any way, calling it a 'prank' is disingenuous at best.

That's true as well. Anyhow, my favorite prank was after some hallmates snuck into our suite(one of my roommates left the door ajam) and they got in and removed the cushions and spelt out their intials on the floor with paper towels and tortillas. I decided to pour toilet bowl cleaner on their door handle.

41 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:37:05am

re: #37 Gus

Yeah. Who cares what "they" did 43 years ago...

Insider Report: Hillary's College Thesis Revealed!!!

I see. So a college thesis [still] matters but impersonating a cop?

Hugging a professor is also bad.

42 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:37:08am

I wonder if he used the uniform to harass women. In my opinion, he already entertains contempt for them.

43 Gus  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:37:39am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Hugging a professor is also bad.

As is eating coconut ice cream...

44 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:38:13am

re: #39 lawhawk

And it raises still more questions about Romney's frame of mind where he thinks it's acceptable to impersonate a cop.

People have gone to prison for that.

45 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:38:42am

re: #44 lawhawk

And it raises still more questions about Romney's frame of mind where he thinks it's acceptable to impersonate a cop.

People have gone to prison for that.

People should go to prison for that.

46 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:39:04am

It seems to be an old already published in a book...
WaPo ‘Bullygate’ Profile Foreshadowed Mitt Romney ‘Police Impersonator’ Story

But in a well-known prank in which Romney flashed a police siren and, bearing a fake badge and cap, approached two friends and their dates parked on a dark country road, there was a stronger undercurrent of fear to the incident than commonly conveyed. Candy Porter, a Kingswood boarder from a small town in Ohio, had a strict 11 p.m. curfew. As Romney and his Cranbrook pals played out the joke, pretending to be shocked over empty bourbon bottles in the trunk, Porter thought of the dorm mothers waiting at the door and the threat of expulsion. “I just remember being like a deer in headlights,” she said. “I just remember being terrified.” Once she realized it was all a prank, and was safely back at her dorm, Porter joined in the laughter.

He wasn't wandering around pulling over drivers. The "uniform" was a hat and a badge. Labeling this as some sort of perverse fetish for uniforms is just silly. Nontroversy.

47 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:39:04am

re: #35 Kragar

Any law requiring them to treat homosexuals or women as real human beings is a burden.

I don't think the state can compel clergy to perform gay marriage ceremonies if their denomination does not allow it. However that is a minor inconvenience when you consider that this law could allow health care providers to deny significant and life-critical services to female patients.

48 Big Steve  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:39:35am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Absolutely agree. If it came out that Obama did something like this, it would be a serious issue for me. This is way beyond a simple "prank," and any college student who did something like this today would probably be facing serious consequences. Impersonating a police office and stopping drivers is not "normal" college student behavior by anyone's measure.

Yea its weird if true but again the provenance of the story is always going to be suspect. At a reunion 5 years a casual acquaintance classmate came up and said "remember when we...." and in detail discussed something that I absolutely was not a part of. I told him that and he completely disagreed and said I was there. Another friend listening laughed and said "well it sounds like something I would do." I am not arguing that if Romney did this, it would make you wonder, I am just saying it sounds doubtful it can be proven which just makes it a matter for faith whether you believe it or not.

49 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:39:56am

re: #38 jamesfirecat

///Slaanesh demands santorum.

Tzeentch finds privacy laws to be against his religious beliefs.
Nurgle hates vaccinations and condoms.

50 Tumulus11  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:40:35am
In The Real Romney, a biography published by Boston Globe reporters Michael Kranish and Scott Helman this year, another former friend recalled how Romney had 'put a siren on top of his car and chased two of his friends who were driving around with their dates.' The two friends were in on the scheme, but the girls were not. There was beer in the car trunk, according to a prearranged plan. Mitt told his two counterparts to get out of their vehicle and into his car. Then they drove off, leaving the girls behind.

. This was mean-spirited and abusive. Mitt would know that a quick call from the Governor's mansion would take care of any consequences.

51 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:40:41am

re: #46 Killgore Trout

It seems to be an old already published in a book...
WaPo ‘Bullygate’ Profile Foreshadowed Mitt Romney ‘Police Impersonator’ Story

He wasn't wandering around pulling over drivers. The "uniform" was a hat and a badge. Labeling this as some sort of perverse fetish for uniforms is just silly. Nontroversy.

All it was was a hat and badge, yet it took her until she got back to her dorm to realize he wasn't a cop?

Had she ever seen a police officer before?

52 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:41:05am

re: #47 Learned Mother of Zion

I don't think the state can compel clergy to perform gay marriage ceremonies if their denomination does not allow it. However that is a minor inconvenience when you consider that this law could allow health care providers to deny significant and life-critical services to female patients.

It would also allow business owners to refuse service to anyone they wanted if it was on religious grounds.

53 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:41:12am

re: #46 Killgore Trout

It seems to be an old already published in a book...
WaPo ‘Bullygate’ Profile Foreshadowed Mitt Romney ‘Police Impersonator’ Story

He wasn't wandering around pulling over drivers. The "uniform" was a hat and a badge. Labeling this as some sort of perverse fetish for uniforms is just silly. Nontroversy.

I also seem to recal the fake badge, hat and sirens used to be available at Spencer's Gifts in malls back in the 80's

54 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:41:23am

re: #49 Kragar

Tzeentch finds privacy laws to be against his religious beliefs.
Nurgle hates vaccinations and condoms.

Taz hate water!

55 jaunte  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:43:58am

re: #44 lawhawk

And it raises still more questions about Romney's frame of mind where he thinks it's acceptable to impersonate a cop.

People have gone to prison for that.

Romney was always privileged to do things for which other people would be punished.

56 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:44:42am

re: #51 erik_t

All it was was a hat and badge, yet it took her until she got back to her dorm to realize he wasn't a cop?

Had she ever seen a police officer before?

I think it's implying that she only really calmed down once they got back.

57 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:45:53am

re: #55 jaunte

Romney was always privileged to do things for which other people would be punished.

Well today he writes articles saying Detroit should fail and then Detroit turns around, and now he takes credit for Detroit's recovery. It's the story of Mitt's life where Mitt is always right and how dare you question him or his motives.

58 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:46:40am

re: #33 erik_t

Nope, chevrolet caprice.
I too can spot them mile away.

59 RadicalModerate  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:46:56am

re: #26 Kragar

North Dakota Constitutional Amendment says you can ignore any law you like if its a "religious burden"

Seriously? This is what we've come to in this country?

From the article:

An appeals court in New Mexico recently rejected an argument by an anti-gay business owner which could have exempted New Mexicans from any anti-discrimination law — including bans on race and gender discrimination — that they have a religious objection to.

Since courts struck down previous attempts to allow discrimination by fiat, South Dakota is going to try to do an end-around of the US Constitution by passing this state amendment. Honestly, I don't think that these people will be satisfied until we reinstate Jim Crow statutes and overturn all of the Civil Rights legislation from the 1950s/1960s.

60 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:47:42am

re: #58 Tommy's cone of shame

Nope, chevrolet caprice.
I too can spot them mile away.

A Chevrolet police car?! I think this calls for INTERNET WAR

61 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:48:32am

...and that's why MSNBC, Huffpo and Daily Beast are the only "news" outlets covering the story.

62 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:49:28am

A college prank is turning off the heat in their dorm room and then pouring 20 gallons of Jello on the floor.

63 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:49:31am

re: #59 RadicalModerate

From the article:

Since courts struck down previous attempts to allow discrimination by fiat, South Dakota is going to try to do an end-around of the US Constitution by passing this state amendment. Honestly, I don't think that these people will be satisfied until we reinstate Jim Crow statutes and overturn all of the Civil Rights legislation from the 1950s/1960s.

Well remember Rand Paul has said that he would have opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Apparently being able to tell someone they're not allowed to go somewhere simply because of their skin color is liberty. Liberty I guess to a psycho like that is the liberty to discriminate without repercussions.

64 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:49:47am

Everyone knows the only real cop car is the V-8 interceptor.

65 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:50:38am

re: #62 Tommy's cone of shame

A college prank is turning off the heat in their dorm room and then pouring 20 gallons of Jello on the floor.

Steal their pillow and fill the pillow case with shaving cream.

66 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:50:38am

re: #46 Killgore Trout

It seems to be an old already published in a book...
WaPo ‘Bullygate’ Profile Foreshadowed Mitt Romney ‘Police Impersonator’ Story

He wasn't wandering around pulling over drivers. The "uniform" was a hat and a badge. Labeling this as some sort of perverse fetish for uniforms is just silly. Nontroversy.

Well that is interesting. How long will it take the MSM to bring this part of the story out?

67 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:51:30am

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Steal their pillow and fill the pillow case with shaving cream.

Put a horse in the dean's office and fire a gun blank!

68 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:51:33am

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Taking the bed and putting it on the roof.

Or any of the MIT pranks/hacks.

69 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:51:40am

re: #65 Killgore Trout
Ben Gay in the underwear/jacque strap...

70 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:51:50am

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Steal their pillow and fill the pillow case with shaving cream.

The Wet the bed trick is good. My Dad and his brothers did that one to my oldest uncle.

71 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:52:41am

re: #46 Killgore Trout

He wasn't wandering around pulling over drivers. The "uniform" was a hat and a badge. Labeling this as some sort of perverse fetish for uniforms is just silly. Nontroversy.

No, that's not correct. The witnesses say Romney showed them a full uniform laid out on a bed.

72 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:54:07am

And by the way, Tommy Christopher's article at Mediaite goes on to say that Conason's reporting is solid, and that the story appears to be true.

73 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:54:45am

re: #71 Charles Johnson

No, that's not correct. The witnesses say Romney showed them a full uniform laid out on a bed.

He was bearing a cap and badge. No mention of pants of any sort, so I assume Romney was not wearing pants.

Inclusive versus exclusive operators: how do they work?

74 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:54:49am

re: #46 Killgore Trout

So recalls Robin Madden, who had also just arrived as a freshman, the startling incident began when Romney called him and two or three other residents into his room, saying, “Come up, I want to show you something.” When they entered Romney’s room, “and laid out on his bed was a Michigan State Trooper’s uniform.”

A uniform is more than just a mere hat and badge. Just sayin'.

75 jaunte  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:55:25am

"Mitt Romney doesn't listen to Mitt Romney either."

76 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:56:34am

I hope Mitt was just stripping on the side.
//

77 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:56:52am

re: #61 Killgore Trout

I understand that you seem to be stuck permanently in contrarian mode, but at least try to get your facts correct.

78 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:57:44am

re: #46 Killgore Trout

The uniform was given to Romney by his father, George Romney. It was a full uniform not merely a hat and badge.

And even if it was just a hat and badge, that still doesn't reflect kindly on either Mitt or his father, because he was impersonating a law enforcement officer.

In Michigan, it's a misdemeanor, and there's been a move to increase the penalties to make it a felony (which I think it should be).

79 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:58:06am

*Head Desk*

80 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:58:44am

Romney Warns Obama Might End Free Enterprise

Mitt Romney sounded an alarmist tone about the future of the free enterprise system on Thursday, arguing that a second Obama term could lead to the takeover of the economy by the government. In a speech at a Hispanic-owned business in St. Louis, Mo. “One must ask,” Romney said, “whether we will still be a free enterprise nation and whether we will still have economic freedom.”

Next up, Romney warns Obama might ban puppies and rainbows.

81 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:58:51am

re: #79 Learned Mother of Zion

We're retweeting Loesch... so yes, we are much creepier. /

82 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:59:44am

re: #79 Learned Mother of Zion

*Head Desk*

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83 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:00:07pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

And by the way, Tommy Christopher's article at Mediaite goes on to say that Conason's reporting is solid, and that the story appears to be true.

Was it a college prank or was he walking around arresting people?

I know the left is working hard to dig up dirt on Romney but a story about possibly cutting some kid's hair when he was a teenager and pulling a college pranks with a fake police badge and hat is all they got?

Nobody is going to judge Romney by things he did during high school or college. It will be about the important issues like jobs and the economy.

Complete nontroversy.

84 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:00:46pm

re: #79 Learned Mother of Zion

*Head Desk*

Darn. I keep forgetting to get that Nerf Desk patent filed. And time is running out to get it on the market for the rest of election season.

85 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:00:53pm

re: #81 lawhawk

We're retweeting Loesch... so yes, we are much creepier. /

She's whining that that the kid who launched a homophobic rant on his radio broadcast (please explain how a 14-year-old gets to play Rush Limbaugh on his own radio show?) is being BULLIED.

86 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:00:58pm

re: #79 Learned Mother of Zion

*Head Desk*

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Yeah, progressives should do normal things like digging up the kid's address like Malkin did for the kid who testified for SCHIP, right Dana?

87 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:01:37pm

re: #85 Learned Mother of Zion

She's whining that that the kid who launched a homophobic rant on his radio broadcast (please explain how a 14-year-old gets to play Rush Limbaugh on his own radio show?) is being BULLIED.

I thought they liked bullying.

88 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:02:03pm

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

Was it a college prank or was he walking around arresting people?

I know the left is working hard to dig up dirt on Romney but a story about possibly cutting some kid's hair when he was a teenager and pulling a college pranks with a fake police badge and hat is all they got?

Nobody is going to judge Romney by things he did during high school or college. It will be about the important issues like jobs and the economy.

Complete nontroversy.

You do realize impersonating a cop is a crime right. It's not just some college prank. There are better things to attack Romney for like the fact his state had low job growth when he was governor and the deficit got worse. But this isn't a mere college prank.

89 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:02:10pm

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

I know the left is working hard to dig up dirt on Romney but a story about possibly cutting some kid's hair when he was a teenager and pulling a college pranks with a fake police badge and hat is all they got?

Psst, your talking points are out of date.

90 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:02:55pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

That contradicts pre-existing accounts of the story
[Link: books.google.com...]

(scroll up) The uniform was "similar to that worn by a police officer".

91 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:02:55pm

FBI to investigate Curt Schilling's failed company

Col. Steven G. O’Donnell, superintendent of the Rhode Island State Police, told the Journal today that his agency, the FBI, the U.S. Attorney’s office and the Rhode Island attorney general “are working together to investigate activities that have recently come to light at 38 Studios.”

92 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:03:19pm

re: #89 erik_t

Psst, your talking points are out of date.

He has been distracted by the Devils being in the Stanley Cup Final. Things should get back to normal in a day or two.

93 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:03:27pm

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

So I assume you also believe the demands for Barack Obama's college transcripts are a "total nontroversy?"

94 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:04:26pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

You do realize impersonating a cop is a crime right. It's not just some college prank. There are better things to attack Romney for like the fact his state had low job growth when he was governor and the deficit got worse. But this isn't a mere college prank.

Then why can you buy them at costume stores?

95 Gus  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:04:32pm

re: #78 lawhawk

The uniform was given to Romney by his father, George Romney. It was a full uniform not merely a hat and badge.

And even if it was just a hat and badge, that still doesn't reflect kindly on either Mitt or his father, because he was impersonating a law enforcement officer.

In Michigan, it's a misdemeanor, and there's been a move to increase the penalties to make it a felony (which I think it should be).

Given this and the hair cutting assault there's no doubt that had Romney been from the wrong side of the tracks he would have had a prison record by now. Had these two events been considered felonies in many states he would have been 2/3rd of the way towards a life sentence. None of this ever happened since Mitt is of course from a highly influential and privileged family.

96 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:05:04pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

(scroll up) The uniform was "similar to that worn by a police officer".

If I, as a non-expert on police regalia, saw someone dressed like a police officer but that I later found was not an actual cop, I would likely describe their dress as 'similar to that worn by a police officer'. It would be my assumption that they didn't actually have a real uniform, and this would influence my language.

It's hard to put an upper bound on the definition of the word 'similar'. I don't think you can draw an exact conclusion from this one way or the other.

97 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:05:24pm

re: #94 NJDhockeyfan

Then why can you buy them at costume stores?

Are you seriously telling me that impersonating a cop isn't a crime?

98 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:05:39pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

So I assume you also believe the demands for Barack Obama's college transcripts are a "total nontroversy?"

Sure. I want to know what is he going to do to turn around the economic. I could give a rats ass what his college transcripts are all about.

99 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:05:57pm

re: #94 NJDhockeyfan

Then why can you buy them at costume stores?

You can wear the uniform, you just can't go around telling people you're a cop and pulling them over.

100 leftynyc  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:06:31pm

re: #5 thatthatisis

Romney is one peculiar dude.

BTW, I'm out in RI attending the DKos convention. Last year Andrew Breitbart crashed the assembly to cause trouble. This year we've already had a troll with a video camera making trouble. No evidence she was from Breitbart yet

And it's only the first day.

I read about that on DK - crashed the Native American seminar looking for dirt on Elizabeth Warren and was obviously hoping the Native Americans were pissed at her - they're not at all. DK has already identified her and she went running away like the cowards they are.

101 Mattand  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:06:44pm

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

Complete nontroversy.

The GOP nominee for POTUS has a history of assault with a deadly weapon and now impersonating a cop, and everyone is supposed to shrug their shoulders and say, "Oh, that MItt!!" ?

Bullshit.

102 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:06:48pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

That contradicts pre-existing accounts of the story
[Link: books.google.com...]

(scroll up) The uniform was "similar to that worn by a police officer".

more controversy...
"...Mitt had responsibility for a duck that no longer existed."
If he can't protect a duck how can he protect the country?

103 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:07:01pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Are you seriously telling me that impersonating a cop isn't a crime?

If you are out arresting people or pulling them over, yes, of course it is. If you are pulling a prank on you friends I think that is OK.

104 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:07:09pm

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Dressing up as a police officer in costume, or pretending to be a police officer for the purpose of play or a harmless prank toward an acquaintance is generally not considered a crime, provided that those involved recognize the imposter is not a real police officer, and the imposter is not trying to deceive those involved into thinking he/she is.

105 jaunte  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:07:15pm

The political cure for these kinds of stories about Romney is not to completely discount them, but to balance them with stories about when he was kind or helpful to unrelated strangers, or acted like he was not a son of wealth and privilege. Maybe there are some of those stories out there...

106 JeffM70  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:07:57pm

Am I missing something or doesn't the article say it was a Michigan state trooper's uniform that he got from his father?

107 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:08:19pm

re: #94 NJDhockeyfan

Then why can you buy them at costume stores?

Do you really not see the difference between dressing up for a costume party, and putting on a police uniform and a flashing light on your car and stopping drivers on the street?

108 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:08:35pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

more controversy...
"...Mitt had responsibility for a duck that no longer existed."
If he can't protect a duck how can he protect the country?

I heard he almost wore a fireman's outfit and was going to roam the streets looking for a fire to hose down.

109 carey94tt  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:09:07pm

there is no evidence that he actually DID what he said. He could have been just trying to impress friends with his "uniform". Let's see if he responds to the allegations.

Still kind of disturbing though.

110 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:09:13pm

re: #96 erik_t

If I, as a non-expert on police regalia, saw someone dressed like a police officer but that I later found was not an actual cop, I would likely describe their dress as 'similar to that worn by a police officer'. It would be my assumption that they didn't actually have a real uniform, and this would influence my language.

It's hard to put an upper bound on the definition of the word 'similar'. I don't think you can draw an exact conclusion from this one way or the other.

Agreed. It might have been a real uniform but it wasn't that long ago that plastic badges, fake caps, and flashing "police" lights were available in novelty shops along with the plastic dog poop.

111 Varek Raith  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:09:18pm

re: #108 NJDhockeyfan

I heard he almost wore a fireman's outfit and was going to roam the streets looking for a fire to hose down.

112 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:09:22pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

Do you really not see the difference between dressing up for a costume party, and putting on a police uniform and a flashing light on your car and stopping drivers on the street?

Mitt Romney was doing that?

113 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:10:13pm

re: #112 NJDhockeyfan

Mitt Romney was doing that?

It's literally in the main post.

Said Madden in a recent interview, “He told us that he had gotten the uniform from his father,” George Romney, then the Governor of Michigan, whose security detail was staffed by uniformed troopers. “He told us that he was using it to pull over drivers on the road. He also had a red flashing light that he would attach to the top of his white Rambler.”

114 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:10:14pm

re: #112 NJDhockeyfan

Maybe you should actually read the article.

115 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:10:30pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Dressing up as a police officer in costume, or pretending to be a police officer for the purpose of play or a harmless prank toward an acquaintance is generally not considered a crime, provided that those involved recognize the imposter is not a real police officer, and the imposter is not trying to deceive those involved into thinking he/she is.

Huh, I would have guessed it would still be technically illegal but somewhat tolerated.

116 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:10:38pm

re: #112 NJDhockeyfan

When did you stop beating your wife?!

117 JeffM70  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:11:36pm

re: #110 Killgore Trout

Um, doesn't the article say it was a Michigan state trooper's uniform Romney got from his father?

118 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:11:54pm

re: #115 Killgore Trout

Huh, I would have guessed it would still be technically illegal but somewhat tolerated.

I think the police have a very uneasy attitude about it given that serial killers like Bundy impersonated cops to get victims. Not that Romney is like Bundy mind you but I think that's why they don't take impersonating cops lightly.

119 leftynyc  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:12:18pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Absolutely agree. If it came out that Obama did something like this, it would be a serious issue for me. This is way beyond a simple "prank," and any college student who did something like this today would probably be facing serious consequences. Impersonating a police office and stopping drivers is not "normal" college student behavior by anyone's measure.

Not to mention it's also quite illegal. A felony.

120 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:12:41pm

re: #115 Killgore Trout

Huh, I would have guessed it would still be technically illegal but somewhat tolerated.

I suspect that criminalizing the actual wear of the dress would be legally challenging both from a provenance and a practicality point of view -- it's dramatically non-standardized, and can be mixed and matched.

Now, I bet an actual badge is different, but I bet those plastic replicas are pretty smeared on that point and don't actually claim to be a badge of a specific jurisdiction.

121 Mattand  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:12:45pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

I think the police have a very uneasy attitude about it given that serial killers like Bundy impersonated cops to get victims. Not that Romney is like Bundy mind you but I think that's why they don't take impersonating cops lightly.

I'm starting to wonder now.

122 Varek Raith  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:12:48pm

Impersonating a cop is a-ok if you're a republican!

123 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:13:15pm

Do we have proof Mitt wasn't actually a male stripper in college?

"Ladies, I'm sorry, but we've been getting some noise complaints."
"We didn't think we were being loud."
"You girls weren't being loud enough!"

/Tosses hat aside and begins removing shirt.

124 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:13:44pm

re: #121 mattand

I'm starting to wonder now.

Nah, I think he just thought it was good for a cheap laugh. A dickhead but not a psychopathic murderer.

125 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:14:29pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

Maybe you should actually read the article.

I am going to give this story the 48 hour rule. It sounds a bit far fetched to think he was out there pulling people over in their cars and was never arrested for it.

If he did do that was it part of the prank or was he generally pulling anyone over? If he did pull anyone over did he cuff them? Did he put them in the back of his car and take them to the police station? Did he read them their right first?

126 leftynyc  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:14:51pm

re: #39 lawhawk

Mediate has more on the story, and the fact is that the WaPo reported portions of this story in its coverage of Romney's bullying tactics. It was an off-hand comment that got short shrift in comparison to the bullying, but it has importance of its own. It also addresses how Romney and entitlement rub shoulders:


It goes to character, judgment, and authority (and how to deal with it).

Not only that - he also lied about not getting any deferrments - he got 4. Also first said he didn't want to go to war but then, when running for office of course, said it pained him not to be there. The man doesn't nothing but lie. Rachel did a segment on it last night.

127 Varek Raith  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:15:05pm

But let me tell you!
If Obama did this...
Or attended a fundraiser at a guy's house who collected Stalin made paintings....
Well....

128 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:15:31pm

re: #125 NJDhockeyfan

If he did do that was it part of the prank or was he generally pulling anyone over? If he did pull anyone over did he cuff them? Did he put them in the back of his car and take them to the police station? Did he read them their right first?

"My presidential candidate may have pulled over some people and cuffed them, but he let them out at the scene so it isn't really so bad."

Is this really the direction you want to go with this?

129 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:15:31pm

re: #125 NJDhockeyfan

I am going to give this story the 48 hour rule.

(chuckles)

130 jamesfirecat  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:16:46pm

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

Was it a college prank or was he walking around arresting people?

I know the left is working hard to dig up dirt on Romney but a story about possibly cutting some kid's hair when he was a teenager and pulling a college pranks with a fake police badge and hat is all they got?

Nobody is going to judge Romney by things he did during high school or college. It will be about the important issues like jobs and the economy.

Complete nontroversy.

It was not just cutting some kid's hair, it was leading a mob of people to hold the kid down as he was screaming for help to cut his hair.

It was not a quick run up behind someone snip their poneytail and scamper kind of thing, it was an action which would leave someone feeling weak and powerless in their own home/dorm room. It's the kind of thing that can have lasting cal effects because it involves depriving someone of any sense of personal privacy.


And Romney suffered no consequences for it......

131 Varek Raith  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:16:46pm

re: #128 erik_t

"My presidential candidate may have pulled over some people and cuffed them, but he let them out at the scene so it isn't really so bad."

Is this really the direction you want to go with this?

Evidently...
Lol.

132 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:17:19pm

re: #128 erik_t

"My presidential candidate may have pulled over some people and cuffed them, but he let them out at the scene so it isn't really so bad."

Is this really the direction you want to go with this?

If he was pulling over anyone driving their car he should have been arrested and probably would have.

133 Varek Raith  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:17:32pm

If it's a prank it's not illegal!

134 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:18:27pm

re: #133 Varek Raith

If it's a prank it's not illegal!

Nothing is illegal if you do it for the Lulz.

135 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:19:18pm

re: #85 Learned Mother of Zion

Criticism of a 14-year-old's comments isn't bullying. She (and the rest of the RW) don't get that. They don't care. It's just a talking point to them.

136 Mattand  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:19:20pm

re: #134 Kragar

Nothing is illegal if you do it for the Lulz.

And your father is a Governor who makes you untouchable.

137 Kragar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:20:24pm

Michigan Legislature To Ram Through Radical Anti-Abortion Measures

A bill that would outlaw abortion after 20 weeks, regardless of the woman’s or fetus’s health is being pushed through the Michigan legislature on Thursday. The measure does not include an exception for rape or incest.

138 jamesfirecat  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:21:42pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Not that Romney is like Bundy mind you....

///It all depends on your point of view, do you consider corporations people? Because if they are, Mitt Romney is in fact a serial killer....

139 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:21:46pm
140 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:22:18pm

re: #132 NJDhockeyfan

If he was pulling over anyone driving their car he should have been arrested and probably would have.

Another thing that the linked article alleges actually happened.

In The Real Romney, a biography published by Boston Globe reporters Michael Kranish and Scott Helman this year, another former friend recalled how Romney had “put a siren on top of his car and chased two of his friends who were driving around with their dates.” The two friends were in on the scheme, but the girls were not. There was beer in the car trunk, according to a prearranged plan. Mitt told his two counterparts to get out of their vehicle and into his car. Then they drove off, leaving the girls behind.

Go ahead and read the article. We'll wait.

141 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:22:45pm

re: #135 lawhawk

Criticism of a 14-year-old's comments isn't bullying. She (and the rest of the RW) don't get that. They don't care. It's just a talking point to them.

What Loesch & friends are actually doing is defending this kid's "right" to bully others.

142 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:23:01pm

re: #138 jamesfirecat

///It all depends on your point of view, do you consider corporations people? Because if they are, Mitt Romney is in fact a serial killer...

Coca-Cola was found brutally mutilated in an Atlanta park. Detectives identified the dead corporation with its polar bear tattoo.

143 Mattand  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:24:39pm

re: #137 Kragar

Michigan Legislature To Ram Through Radical Anti-Abortion Measures

For any people on this thread that are voting GOP this year; can you please explain to me how your party thinks this is good policy?

144 dragonath  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:25:15pm

re: #139 HappyWarrior

More small government.

Isn't it great how all these guys are Republicans. I bet the Romney supporters on this board just find that to be peachy keen.

145 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:26:27pm

re: #144 Be Zorch, Daddio

Isn't it great how all these guys are Republicans. I bet the Romney supporters on the board just find that to be peachy keen.

I just want to know how they reconcile it. I get a kick out of when Republicans complain about the nanny state when they're even bigger nanny staters than Democrats.

146 leftynyc  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:27:36pm

re: #122 Varek Raith

Impersonating a cop is a-ok if you're a republican!

Apparently plenty of stuff is OK as long as it's a republican.

147 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:27:48pm

I'm off to work. See ya in the morning lizards!

148 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:28:01pm

re: #145 HappyWarrior

I just want to know how they reconcile it. I get a kick out of when Republicans complain about the nanny state when they're even bigger nanny staters than Democrats.

QFT.

149 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:29:34pm

By the way, I'm not really a fan of Lawrence O'Donnell, and his description of this as a "uniform fetish" is ridiculous. It's actually something worse - an abuse of power, by the privileged son of a powerful politician.

150 leftynyc  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:29:38pm

re: #137 Kragar

Michigan Legislature To Ram Through Radical Anti-Abortion Measures

I've never seen a party so anxious to lose the women's vote.

151 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:29:39pm

re: #148 William Barnett-Lewis

QFT.

I mean my god look at the religious right. They want to have the state tell gay couples they can't marry, censor what can be read in school libraries, and I remember Santorum saying some pornography should be banned. Plus lest we forget the party that escalated the war on drugs in the 80's.

152 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:29:42pm

re: #115 Killgore Trout

Michigan Penal Code Sec. 750-215 (as currently enacted):

(1) An individual who is not a peace officer or a medical examiner shall not do any of the following:

(a) Perform the duties of a peace officer or a medical examiner.

(b) Represent to another person that he or she is a peace officer or a medical examiner for any unlawful purpose.

(c) Represent to another person that he or she is a peace officer or a medical examiner with the intent to compel the person to do or refrain from doing any act against his or her will.

(2) Except as provided in subsection (3), an individual who violates subsection (1) is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 1 year or a fine of not more than $1,000.00, or both.

(3) An individual who, in violation of subsection (1), performs the duties of a peace officer to commit or attempt to commit a crime or represents to another person that he or she is a peace officer to commit or attempt to commit a crime is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than 4 years or a fine of not more than $5,000.00, or both.

Attempting an arrest or pulling someone over while impersonating an officer is a felony.

If Romney dressed up in that uniform his father gave him and then proceeded to pull people over, that would be a felony (as currently enacted). While Wiki seems to give leeway for those in costume for the purpose of a harmless prank, the law doesn't have that exception. In practice there might be more leeway, but had the person who had been pulled over considered this to be more than just a prank, Romney would have been subject to arrest for impersonating an officer.

This differs from a situation where someone is going to a costume party and play-arrests someone there. Everyone at the party knows others are in costume, as opposed to a situation on an open road, where someone comes and flashes lights to stop the other driver and proceeds to act as a law enforcement officer might.

The expectations of the people who are the subject of the person in costume are totally different. The person who is pulled over has the expectation that the person coming up to their vehicle is a lawful law enforcement officer; no such expectation exists for the person at the costume party.

153 Mattand  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:30:20pm

re: #147 NJDhockeyfan

I'm off to work. See ya in the morning lizards!

Later. If you see any flashing lights in your rear view, it could just be your nominee checking up on you.

154 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:30:43pm

re: #125 NJDhockeyfan

It's gotten more than 48 hours. It's gotten a couple of weeks (it was in the WaPo reports when dealing with the bullying/hair cutting incident).

155 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:31:46pm

Why does google treat DU as a news source?
Did Mitt Romney rape anyone that he pulled over when impersonating a cop?

For the uninformed - Mittens got a police officer uniform from his dad, then Governor of Michigan. He would attach a red light on his car, and pull people over.

This is usually the behavior of a rapist or serial killer.

So did Mittens ever rape anyone while doing this?

What exactly did he say to the people he pulled over?

Are there any unsolved rape cases from that period of time in Michigan?

156 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:33:11pm

re: #152 lawhawk

Then, there's the situation of doing a "Punk'd" type scenario - where certain players are in on the action, but others aren't. One can make the argument that the women who were not in on the action were the victims of the police impersonation, and that the other men were in on the bit doesn't absolve Romney of liability (though being the son of a governor does have its privileges).

157 Big Steve  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:34:15pm

Although I do have to admit that in the picture shown on this post, Mitt does have that Animal House Omega "thank you sir, may I have another" look kind of going on....

158 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:35:54pm
159 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:36:06pm

re: #94 NJDhockeyfan

Then why can you buy them at costume stores?

As part of a play, as part of s stripper act, and other things that are explicit that it is just an act is acceptable (under the law). To cruise the streets acting as if you have police authority is against the law.

160 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:36:55pm

re: #157 Big Steve

Although I do have to admit that in the picture shown on this post, Mitt does have that Animal House Omega "thank you sir, may I have another" look kind of going on...

Marmalard. And this reminds me to watch the movie this weekend.

161 Achilles Tang  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:39:43pm

re: #137 Kragar

Michigan Legislature To Ram Through Radical Anti-Abortion Measures

I thought abortion after 20 weeks was illegal anyway, except for serious health reasons. I can imagine child incest/rape situations that do not come to light before 20 weeks, but surely an adult rape victim would make this decision long before then?

Are they bringing this up to specifically to deny life threatening reasons, or is it the other fine print that they want to get through?

162 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:44:12pm

I wouldn't care about this, except for the way it stacks with the hair-cutting attack. And that weird bit in one the debate where Romney decided that it was okay to reach over and grab Rick Perry's arm during a heated discussion.

And the constant, glib, opportunistic lying.

163 dragonfire1981  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:44:53pm

re: #150 leftynyc

I've never seen a party so anxious to lose the women's vote.

Not so fast. They've obviously locked up the vote of many Christian women. Statistics show that women are more likely to regularly attend church then men. Trust me, my church is FILLED with staunchly pro-life women who worked their tails off to try and get Proposition 26 (the Mississippi personhood amendment) approved.

164 Varek Raith  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:46:29pm
165 Big Steve  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:47:00pm

not to be too much OT but this is pretty funny and making the rounds and involves one of my former employers.....Shell

166 Interesting Times  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:50:05pm
167 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:50:25pm

re: #159 RayFerd

To cruise the streets acting as if you have police authority is against the law.

That's why I don't trust the MSNBC claim that it was an official full uniform. MSNBC mischaracterized the prank, he wasn't driving around pulling over random drivers. The claim that Mitt has a uniform fetish is just comical. Previous reports indicate it was probably a novelty costume used in a questionable prank. MSNBC's version is pretty different that the other two accounts we have of the prank.

168 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:52:13pm

A somewhat-related anecdote.

My wife and I were vacationing in New Orleans back in 2001, and we happened to be on Bourbon Street on Halloween.

At one point in the evening, a young girl came around the corner onto Bourbon, wearing hot pants and a NOPD shirt and hat. She didn't get a half block onto Bourbon before she was stopped by NOPD officers, put up against the wall, cuffed and taken away.

I was close enough to hear the officers speaking to the girl, and they told her she was being arrested for impersonating an officer.

Since I assume she wasn't the governor's daughter, she was arrested.
/

169 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:52:50pm

re: #165 Big Steve

It's apparently a Fake.

170 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:53:08pm

re: #167 Killgore Trout

That's why I don't trust the MSNBC claim that it was an official full uniform. MSNBC mischaracterized the prank, he wasn't driving around pulling over random drivers. The claim that Mitt has a uniform fetish is just comical. Previous reports indicate it was probably a novelty costume used in a questionable prank. MSNBC's version is pretty different that the other two accounts we have of the prank.

It's possible he grabbed a novelty costume for a prank, when he already had a real one sitting around, but it seems to add unnecessary complexity to his life. Why not use what's sitting on the shelf? For that matter, it's much more believable that his friends' dates were legitimately confused if he wore the real thing.

171 leftynyc  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:54:10pm

re: #163 dragonfire1981

Not so fast. They've obviously locked up the vote of many Christian women. Statistics show that women are more likely to regularly attend church then men. Trust me, my church is FILLED with staunchly pro-life women who worked their tails off to try and get Proposition 26 (the Mississippi personhood amendment) approved.

I know plenty of so called pro-life (really anti-abortion) women who still think it should be legal and aren't fond of mostly male legislatures messing with their private lives.

172 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:54:57pm

re: #167 Killgore Trout

That's why I don't trust the MSNBC claim that it was an official full uniform. MSNBC mischaracterized the prank, he wasn't driving around pulling over random drivers. The claim that Mitt has a uniform fetish is just comical. Previous reports indicate it was probably a novelty costume used in a questionable prank. MSNBC's version is pretty different that the other two accounts we have of the prank.

This is not an "MSNBC claim." It's from a story reported by Joe Conason, editor-in-chief of the National Memo. The report does not say Romney "stopped random drivers."

And Conason's report also states that it was a full Michigan state trooper's uniform given to him by his father. I don't know why you keep trying to ignore this.

173 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:55:44pm

Has there been any state that got a GOP gov and majority in its legislature that hasn't tried shit like that yet? It's why I have a hard time buying that Mitt will suddenly govern as a moderate especially when he's on shaky ground with his party's base in the first place.

174 Mattand  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:57:13pm

re: #172 Charles Johnson

This is not an "MSNBC claim." It's from a story reported by Joe Conason, editor-in-chief of the National Memo. The report does not say Romney "stopped random drivers."

And Conason's report also states that it was full Michigan state trooper's uniform given to him by his father. I don't know why you keep trying to ignore this.

I can't fault KT for being skeptical about a sensational news story, given the current state of the media. However, there comes a point where being skeptical for skeptical's sake doesn't work any more.

EDIT: I'm not getting where MSNBC fits into this. They weren't the ones reporting this.

175 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:57:29pm

What Joe Conason did was further investigate the original report of Romney dressing as a police officer, which appeared in the Washington Post article, and discovered further corroboration and new witnesses who provided new details.

176 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:58:34pm

re: #117 JeffM70

Um, doesn't the article say it was a Michigan state trooper's uniform Romney got from his father?

Yes, but another article says it was similar and Killgore's reading comprehension is such that one account of similar rules out another of identical. Never mind that the the earlier account comes from a women who was scared out of her mind and only calmed down later while the account saying the uniform was real and a gift from his father comes from two people who allegedly saw it laid out on his bed and heard it from Mitt. Two people who were calm but creeped out by Romney's stated behavior of using it to pull people over.

177 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 12:58:42pm

re: #153 mattand

Later. If you see any flashing lights in your rear view, it could just be your nominee checking up on you.

Yep, so just flip them the bird and speed away.

178 sagehen  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:00:05pm

re: #31 Learned Mother of Zion

I'd like to know some specifics about what laws in particular impose a "religious burden." In Judaism dina demalchusa dina (the law of the land is the law) unless it specifically contradicts a command in the Torah. For example, requiring all citizens to participate in some public activity on Saturday, or a law prohibiting circumcision or kosher slaughter. But no such laws exist in the U.S.

I'm not old enough to personally remember Prohibition, but I've heard stories...

179 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:00:29pm

re: #174 mattand

I can't fault KT for being skeptical about a sensational news story, given the current state of the media. However, there comes a point where being skeptical for skeptical's sake doesn't work any more

And honest it fits a pattern given the hair cutting story.

180 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:00:37pm

OT:
UN observers shot at while trying to reach the scene of the latest massacre in the Hama province. They don't have the authority or ability to fight (let alone defend themselves) and aren't peacekeepers, so they're in the worst kind of position imaginable. They can only bear witness to the atrocities committed by Assad and his goons, as well as those carried out by the rebel forces.

There's no way to know who fired on the observers, but expect Assad to blame the rebels for this attack, even though the rebels have every reason to want the UN to see this if Assad's forces were behind the massacre. But then, Assad blames all the casualties on the rebel forces, even though there's little evidence that the rebels have the kinds of artillery needed to open fire at a distance (as reported in each of these massacres), when militias then finish the task with execution style murders.

181 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:01:49pm

re: #172 Charles Johnson

And Conason's report also states that it was a full Michigan state trooper's uniform given to him by his father. I don't know why you keep trying to ignore this.

I'm not ignoring it. The other two accounts describe the uniform "similar" to police or a cap and badge, not an official uniform. I see no reason to discard the previous two accounts and believe the new account. The prank was questionable but probably not criminal. The new version doesn't pass the smell test for me and it looks like MSNBC and Comedy central are the closest thing to MSM covering the story. My guess is it isn't completely accurate. They have an agenda. If Fox news claims that Obama wears a Mao suit I think it's best to let other outlets confirm it.

182 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:03:24pm

re: #167 Killgore Trout

That's why I don't trust the MSNBC claim that it was an official full uniform. MSNBC mischaracterized the prank, he wasn't driving around pulling over random drivers.

You have a weird way of inferring and then regurgitating exclusivity where it is in no way presented. The fact that he pulled over his friend and date once in no way indicates that he wasn't pulling over people unknown to him.

183 Mattand  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:04:39pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

I'm not ignoring it. The other two accounts describe the uniform "similar" to police or a cap and badge, not an official uniform. I see no reason to discard the previous two accounts and believe the new account. The prank was questionable but probably not criminal. The new version doesn't pass the smell test for me and it looks like MSNBC and Comedy central are the closest thing to MSM covering the story. My guess is it isn't completely accurate. They have an agenda. If Fox news claims that Obama wears a Mao suit I think it's best to let other outlets confirm it.

The MSNBC and Comedy Central reports I found both reference the National Memo report.

184 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:04:53pm

re: #182 goddamnedfrank

You have a weird way of inferring and then regurgitating exclusivity where it is in no way presented. The fact that he pulled over his friend and date once in no way indicates that he wasn't pulling over people unknown to him.

True. As DU speculated he could have been using to pull over women to rape them. Anything is possible. We'll have to wait for more information.

185 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:06:06pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

I'm not ignoring it. The other two accounts describe the uniform "similar" to police or a cap and badge, not an official uniform. I see no reason to discard the previous two accounts and believe the new account. The prank was questionable but probably not criminal. The new version doesn't pass the smell test for me and it looks like MSNBC and Comedy central are the closest thing to MSM covering the story. My guess is it isn't completely accurate. They have an agenda. If Fox news claims that Obama wears a Mao suit I think it's best to let other outlets confirm it.

Again, you infer things that aren't implied in the text. Similar in no way rules out identical unless you've got a biased reason to want it to.

186 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:06:49pm

Well maybe someone will ask him about it. Would love to know his answer.

187 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:07:53pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

I'm not ignoring it. The other two accounts describe the uniform "similar" to police or a cap and badge, not an official uniform. I see no reason to discard the previous two accounts and believe the new account. The prank was questionable but probably not criminal. The new version doesn't pass the smell test for me and it looks like MSNBC and Comedy central are the closest thing to MSM covering the story. My guess is it isn't completely accurate. They have an agenda. If Fox news claims that Obama wears a Mao suit I think it's best to let other outlets confirm it.

As I thought we agreed upthread, for an uncertain observer, 'identical' is a subset of 'similar'.

188 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:08:57pm

re: #184 Killgore Trout

True. As DU speculated he could have been using to pull over women to rape them. Anything is possible. We'll have to wait for more information.

Then why did you make an iron clad assertion about what Romney wasn't doing? That wasn't very neutral or druidic.

189 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:09:12pm

re: #174 mattand

EDIT: I'm not getting where MSNBC fits into this. They weren't the ones reporting this.

Easy target.

190 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:09:17pm

Like the bullying incident, this is just another thing to note and keep in mind when weighing Mitt's character, and then move on to more recent issues and events.

The Internet really does encourage people to linger and overanalyze things like this.

191 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:12:02pm

re: #190 Expand Your Ground

Like the bullying incident, this is just another thing to note and keep in mind when weighing Mitt's character, and then move on to more recent issues and events.

The Internet really does encourage people to linger and overanalyze things like this.

Talking Head fodder since there is a lack of material to fill the 24/7 air time we have now on those channels.

192 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:17:13pm

re: #190 Expand Your Ground

I agree, it's not the bombshell scoop that will destroy Romney's candidacy, but it is an interesting and disturbing piece of information about his character.

Joe Conason, author of this report, is a left-leaning but reputable journalist with no history of publishing false stories.

193 darthstar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:17:54pm

Impersonating a police officer.
Impersonating a liberal candidate to become governor.
Impersonating a 'severe conservative' now to win the GOP nomination.

Mitt Romney isn't a sincere, ethical, honest, or trustworthy person, but he does a great impression of one.

194 jaunte  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:19:40pm

I won't believe it until I hear what Dick Morris says.

195 Varek Raith  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:21:05pm
196 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:21:23pm

re: #193 darthstar

Impersonating a police officer.
Impersonating a liberal candidate to become governor.
Impersonating a 'severe conservative' now to win the GOP nomination.

Mitt Romney isn't a sincere, ethical, honest, or trustworthy person, but he does a great impression of one.

This. The man is such a chameleonic shapeshifter I doubt even his staunchest supporters know who or what they're voting for.

197 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:21:31pm

re: #193 darthstar

Impersonating a police officer.
Impersonating a liberal candidate to become governor.
Impersonating a 'severe conservative' now to win the GOP nomination.

Mitt Romney isn't a sincere, ethical, honest, or trustworthy person, but he does a great impression of one.

The Romneybot 6000 is almost as accomplished as Leonard Zelig.

198 Big Steve  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:23:03pm

re: #169 lawhawk

It's apparently a Fake.

well they got me.....damn.....wish it were true.

199 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:24:10pm

re: #193 darthstar

Impersonating a police officer.
Impersonating a liberal candidate to become governor.
Impersonating a 'severe conservative' now to win the GOP nomination.

Mitt Romney isn't a sincere, ethical, honest, or trustworthy person, but he does a great impression of one.

Opportunist is the word I'd use. I disliked him when he started bashing the state he governed for cheap laughs during his 2008 candidacy. It was then apparent that Massachusetts was not home to him but rather a political stepping stone to the presidency.

200 darthstar  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:24:15pm
201 RadicalModerate  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:24:33pm

One thing that isn't mentioned in this story that I would be very interested in knowing - did Mitt Romney's state trooper's uniform include his carrying a sidearm (or a facsimile thereof?). It puts a completely different spin on whether he is "play-acting", and the more serious implication of impersonation of impersonating a police officer.

202 HeyTaxi  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:24:52pm

Young man, I was once in your shoes. The 5th Village Person.

203 dragonfire1981  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:25:52pm

re: #202 HeyTaxi

Young man, I was once in your shoes. The 5th Village Person.

"Sorry Chris, but YMCA only has four letters so, we're going to have to let you go..."

204 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:26:01pm

re: #200 darthstar

[Embedded content]

No one would fall for that one would they?

205 erik_t  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:26:44pm

re: #201 RadicalModerate

One thing that isn't mentioned in this story that I would be very interested in knowing - did Mitt Romney's state trooper's uniform include his carrying a sidearm (or a facsimile thereof?). It puts a completely different spin on whether he is "play-acting", and the more serious implication of impersonation of impersonating a police officer.

Completely different spin? I don't really think it does; it's 98% as wrong to impersonate a law officer in Great Britain, where the vast majority of them are unarmed.

206 gwangung  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:32:47pm

Yeah, this is bad, but ultimately inconsequential; it just shows you he's a dick you wouldn't want in charge of a hot dog stand.

Of course, that's no detriment to people who vote Republican...

207 RadicalModerate  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:35:58pm

re: #205 erik_t

Completely different spin? I don't really think it does; it's 98% as wrong to impersonate a law officer in Great Britain, where the vast majority of them are unarmed.

Gotta disagree with your assessment - the "gun and badge" mentality is ingrained into American society's visualization of what represents a law enforcement officer - in the United States, its pretty close to a 100% certainty that a holstered pistol is worn by uniformed officers - this is especially true for state troopers during the 1960s.

208 Ming  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 1:44:06pm

re: #196 goddamnedfrank

The man is such a chameleonic shapeshifter I doubt even his staunchest supporters know who or what they're voting for.

Romney is a master at straddling the fence. I just took a look at [Link: 2012.republican-candidates.org...] to see what his position is on stem cell research that uses human embryos. At first he seemed to be against it. Then I noticed that he's really against "cloning or embryo farming", whatever "embryo farming" is.

He goes on to say "Some stem cells today are obtained from surplus embryos from in-vitro fertilization. I support that research, provided that those embryos are obtained after a rigorous parental consent process that includes adoption as an alternative." which sounds like he won't try to stop the use of human embryos in stem cell research. Sounds kinda liberal, actually.

My point is that you could read that web page any way you want. Of course, many Republicans will do just that.

209 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 2:00:23pm

re: #16 Killgore Trout

I don't get it either. Remember the guy who said he smoked crack and gave Obama a blow job?

While I'm not ready to buy this as an established fact yet, there is no analogy with Sinclair, both because there are more witnesses than one, because these witnesses do not have the same credibility problems as a convicted felon (at least for now) and because unlike Sinclair they can be shown to have been plausibly "in contact" with Romney.

That said, youthful prank is youthful prank. It's creepy, but we have Romney's record since then to show that he's not a creep, personally.

To my mind this is a nontroversy.

210 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 2:57:27pm

Charles Johnson,

I told you guys about this on twitter. I knew the two of you would enjoy it. I personally hope that Romney has come to regret this. Regardless of how we feel about it, I hope he has come to see what a mistake this was.

211 diamonda2u  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 3:16:48pm

I haven't read any of the other comments yet but I will say, when I first read this article on another news site I thought "the only folks who impersonate police are perverts (rapist) and thieves"...so which was it, cause if he did this, that ain't t prank, that's just CREEPY, PERVERSE and WEIRD!

212 HeyTaxi  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 3:55:14pm

Better check old police records from that period for complaints and missing persons.

213 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 4:49:33pm

re: #94 NJDhockeyfan

Then why can you buy them at costume stores?

you are breathtakingly stupid hahaha

214 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 5:25:01pm

re: #69 Tommy's cone of shame

Ben Gay in the underwear/jacque strap...

Oh, you know Jacque Strappe too, huh?

///

215 krypto  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:06:50pm

All this is very interesting, and amusing, but I already have much better reasons to vote against Mitt Romney and the Republicans who would get into office with him, and for Obama instead.

216 diamonda2u  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:07:27pm

re: #212 HeyTaxi

My thoughts exactly! ;-)

217 Gus  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 6:48:33pm
218 BlazerBeav  Thu, Jun 7, 2012 11:33:16pm

This is weak faux outrage. Reading comprehension might be required, but the story posted above says that he chased two friends on dates - both of whom were not only aware it was Romney chasing them, but were in on the joke. This isn't someone posing as a state trooper and randomly pulling over motorists. If you're actually upset over this you should step away from the keyboard and do something more productive.

219 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 8, 2012 5:31:56pm

Attack of the dead thread hero, the sequel.


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