1 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 3:44:14pm

Mitt's statement wasn't a gaffe, at least according to 2 prominent speakers for his campaign.

2 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:01:15pm

Okay, I am truly overwhelmed by the package on this new Superman costume.

3 Obdicut  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:12:39pm

Romney is both being more of a dick and far more conservative than I would have thought, at this time in the election.

4 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:12:46pm

re: #2 It's a cookbook!

Okay, I am truly overwhelmed by the package on this new Superman costume.

meh.

5 Obdicut  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:17:29pm

re: #2 It's a cookbook!

David Bowie remains unimpressed.

This was a kid's movie. So wrong

6 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:19:32pm

re: #5 Obdicut

David Bowie remains unimpressed.

This was a kid's movie. So wrong

I had not noticed that until now. I deserve that for bringing this up.

7 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:21:34pm

re: #6 It's a cookbook!

I had not noticed that until now. I deserve that for bringing this up.

If you're into that kind of thing...

8 Only The Lurker Knows  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:23:41pm

Evening Lizards.

9 Obdicut  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:24:02pm

Totally OT: (from both Romney and crotches)

I found an awesome site that has tons of old radio programs. If you like Bob and Ray, or The Goon Show, or even really old stuff like Calling All Cars, this place has got 'em.

The search is a little funky: use the longest title you can think. Bob and Ray are Bob Elliot and Ray Goulding, on the search.

[Link: www.myoldradio.com...]

10 erik_t  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:27:06pm

re: #3 Obdicut

Romney is both being more of a dick and far more conservative than I would have thought, at this time in the election.

Tells you how secure he feels about his base. Or, y'know, shows he's a profoundly-out-of-touch blowhard.

Either-or.

11 engineer cat  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:32:49pm

Romney and crotches

sometimes finding something appropriate to contribute to a conversation can be more difficult than others

12 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:40:26pm

re: #11 engineer cat

Romney and crotches

sometimes finding something appropriate to contribute to a conversation can be more difficult than others

Crotchety old fart.

13 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:45:25pm

Charles, why is it I can tweet from this thread and the Poonawalla page, but I get a 403 error when I try to tweet from the Elizajane page?

14 freetoken  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:46:47pm

A review of the independent documentary The Revisionaries from a writer at the Seattle IFF:

A few years ago, Rachel Grady and Heidi Ewing made what’s perhaps their best-known film, Jesus Camp, a remarkably objective examination of right-wing fundamentalists indoctrinating children to be little “soldiers for Christ,” a film that a fellow critic described at the time (and rightfully so) as the scariest movie he’d seen that year. With The Revisionaries, Scott Thurman, flying solo for the first time as director on a doc feature, brings a similarly balanced eye to this documentary about the importance of the Texas Board of Education in determining the content of textbooks across the nation, and how Don McLeroy, a little-known Christian dentist got himself elected chair of the BOE and subsequently did all that the could to weaken the teaching of evolution in science textbooks in Texas.

If you heard about all that nonsense back when it was happening and thought to yourself, “Boy, I’m sure glad my kids don’t go to school in Texas,” this film will make you think again about the impact seemingly ridiculous happenings in the Lone Star state could actually have on your own kids’ education.

Part of what makes The Revisionaries so effective is McLeroy himself, who’s so jolly and earnest it’s hard to perceive him as potentially dangerous to the science education of children not just in Texas, but across the country. Far-right conservatives might take issue with the way in which they’re represented here by McLeroy and his fellow conservative Christian BOE members, who seem to have great difficulty grasping the concept of separation of Church and State, but Thurman’s just holding up a mirror to what’s actually there and showing it in the context of how these people’s religious beliefs actually impact the decisions of the nation’s major textbook manufacturers with regard to content that ends up being taught in our public schools.

I’d honestly never given any thought to how the ridiculousness in Texas over evolution and creationism could impact my own kids here in liberal Seattle, until Thurman pieced together here the way in which the textbook standards of a state like Texas — a huge source of revenue and therefore very influential in what ends up in books sold to other states — can affect students everywhere. Thurman makes his case effectively here, mostly by letting the real players just open their mouths and speak for themselves. But I’d be willing to bet, just as Jesus Camp played equally well to both sides, that if you showed this film to an audience full of Texas fundamentalist creationists, they’d walk out feeling like the film portrays a victory for Christ in keeping science at bay in textbook standards, and in advancing the cause of creationism and “intelligent design.”

[...]

And the trailer:

15 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:47:24pm

Anyone else think a Presidential debate moderated by Jon Stewart would be epic?

16 Obdicut  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:47:28pm

re: #7 Kragar

If you're into that kind of thing...

I'm going to do something terrible to you now.

Winston Churchill

Image: 128622_v1.jpg

17 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:49:14pm

re: #16 Obdicut

I'm going to do something terrible to you now.

Image: 128622_v1.jpg

It was cold out.

18 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:49:33pm

re: #13 Nucking Futs is the Place to Be.

Charles, why is it I can tweet from this thread and the Poonawalla page, but I get a 403 error when I try to tweet from the Elizajane page?

Which page is that?

19 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:50:22pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Which page is that?

This one:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

20 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:51:24pm

re: #19 Nucking Futs is the Place to Be.

This one:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Hmm, don't know. I just tweeted that Page and it worked fine.

21 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:52:43pm

re: #19 Nucking Futs is the Place to Be.

Checked the log and the actual error was "Status is a duplicate." Twitter thinks you already sent that tweet.

22 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:54:45pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Checked the log and the actual error was "Status is a duplicate." Twitter thinks you already sent that tweet.

I thought I had, but the thread shows no tweets were sent, so either my browser/brain is malfunctioning or the tweet counter is wrong.

23 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:01:41pm

re: #22 Nucking Futs is the Place to Be.

Well, that's the error message coming back from Twitter, not from the LGF tweet counter. For some reason Twitter thinks you already sent that one.

I've seen occasional weird glitches like this before with Twitter.

To make it a little less puzzling, I just changed the code that send tweets to show you the error description that Twitter sends back if there's an error (although sometimes it's not very helpful).

24 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:03:00pm

Jerry fucking Sandusky. So sorry I read the recap today. Sick twisted predator. I don't need to wait for the rest of the trial.

25 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:04:50pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Well, that's the error message coming back from Twitter, not from the LGF tweet counter. For some reason Twitter thinks you already sent that one.

I've seen occasional weird glitches like this before with Twitter.

To make it a little less puzzling, I just changed the code that send tweets to show you the error description that Twitter sends back if there's an error (although sometimes it's not very helpful).

Thanks.

26 Achilles Tang  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:07:49pm

re: #2 It's a cookbook!

Okay, I am truly overwhelmed by the package on this new Superman costume.

If we can't joke about racks, do you think it appropriate to joke about...

27 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:22:12pm

re: #26 Achilles Tang

If we can't joke about racks, do you think it appropriate to joke about...

Cartoon characters?

28 darthstar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:24:37pm

The second half of that segment is worth posting too. Funny shit.

29 freetoken  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:28:28pm

re: #25 Nucking Futs is the Place to Be.

Enjoyed your "Lord Plankton" name earlier.

Getting back to our old topic, Youtube poster Wayman29 just posted a video reviewing the older Ehrman book Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet of the New Millennium and makes the same note that I did about Ehrman - pretty much Ehrman's position in DJE was already written by him in his earlier books.

Wayman29 actually uses the term "prepper" wrt apocalypticism; I can see it now - an episode of National Geographic's Doomsday Preppers featuring Jesus™.

30 darthstar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:29:00pm
31 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:30:44pm

re: #29 freetoken

Enjoyed your "Lord Plankton" name earlier.

Getting back to our old topic, Youtube poster Wayman29 just posted a video reviewing the older Ehrman book Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet of the New Millennium and makes the same note that I did about Ehrman - pretty much Ehrman's position in DJE was already written by him in his earlier books.

[Embedded content] Wayman29 actually uses the term "prepper" wrt apocalypticism; I can see it now - an episode of National Geographic's Doomsday Preppers featuring Jesus™.

Sergey went that way ->

32 freetoken  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:31:31pm

WND proudly informs us that Arpaio is challenging Obama's eligibility in ... Florida!

[Link: www.wnd.com...]

33 jaunte  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:31:33pm
34 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:31:35pm

Actress Ann Rutherford is dead at 94. She was known for being Andy Hardy's sweetheart and also Carreen in Gone With The Wind. Here is my page: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

35 researchok  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:32:06pm

re: #14 freetoken

Train wreck ahead.

The evangelicals make the mistake of confusing evangelism with forcing ideology down people's throats.

They have every right to go out there, preach the Word and offer salvation to those who accept, by way of example and persuasion.

They do not have the right to force their beliefs down anyone's throats or to stifle or silence those who disagree with them.

This is not the era of the Inquisition Lite.

That the evangelicals have inserted themselves into the political system is a far greater problem than Citizens United, in my opinion.

36 freetoken  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:32:08pm

re: #32 freetoken

WND proudly informs us that Arpaio is challenging Obama's eligibility in ... Florida!

[Link: www.wnd.com...]

oops...

All these dynamic names iz confusing me.

37 darthstar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:34:50pm

Joshing with Josh...

38 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:35:32pm

re: #5 Obdicut

David Bowie remains unimpressed.

This was a kid's movie. So wrong

It was also watched by adolescent girls. Some of whom...fixated. Boys as well, I'm sure.

(A close friend reports that she first recalls feeling specified lust while watching that movie at the age of thirteen or so.)

"I'm the king of the goblins, and this is my package..."

39 darthstar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:37:02pm

re: #38 SanFranciscoZionist

I liked him in The Hunger with Catherine Deneuve...then again, I love anything that has Catherine Deneuve in it.

40 darthstar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:38:54pm

One of these two people isn't worried about getting arrested and will eat your fucking heart in front of you before your brain shuts down.

Image: zimmerman-mug-shots-cropped-proto-custom_28.jpg

41 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:39:10pm

re: #39 darthstar

I liked him in The Hunger with Catherine Deneuve...then again, I love anything that has Catherine Deneuve in it.

Is that worded correctly?

42 engineer cat  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:39:28pm

re: #32 freetoken

WND proudly informs us that Arpaio is challenging Obama's eligibility in ... Florida!

[Link: www.wnd.com...]

i challenge the eligibility of florida to be a state

no respectable people live there anyway grumble grumble what the hell kind of a state is that grumble sticking out halfway to cuba like it wants to defect

43 darthstar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:39:54pm

re: #41 Nucking Futs is the Place to Be.

Is that worded correctly?

I've had a long day...giveafuckometer is broken.

44 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:40:26pm

re: #40 darthstar

One of these two people isn't worried about getting arrested and will eat your fucking heart in front of you before your brain shuts down.

Image: zimmerman-mug-shots-cropped-proto-custom_28.jpg

Easy to see who controls whom.

45 darthstar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:41:19pm

re: #44 Nucking Futs is the Place to Be.

Easy to see who controls whom.

Great...we'll get the "I was just trying to please my wife" defense now...and it'll probably work.

46 darthstar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:52:59pm
47 jaunte  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 5:57:01pm

re: #46 darthstar

James Lipton, of Inside the Actors Studio, was on MSNBC earlier giving Romney some advice on acting like a real live boy.

48 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:01:46pm

Gotta love that Lion King Soundtrack, it still gets you right there doesn't it?

49 freetoken  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:02:47pm

If you're interested in the role of the Bible in current American political/public life, Duke U. is having a conference later this summer:

[Link: jewishstudies.duke.edu...]

Some of the presentations:

"The Bible in the Presidential Elections of 2012, 2008, 2004 and the Collapse of American Secularism"

“God’s American Israel: Hebrew, the Bible and the American Imagination”

“Biblical Imagery and Political Action: the Roots of Christian Support for Zionism and Israel”

... and more. Should prove to be controversial in certain circles.

50 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:03:01pm

re: #48 jamesfirecat

Gotta love that Lion King Soundtrack, it still gets you right there doesn't it?

No.

51 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:05:07pm

Ok, I've been having tons of fun with photoshop and learning to fine-tune things.

click, and say ooooh-ahhhh

just to make me feel good

52 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:05:27pm

re: #49 freetoken

If you're interested in the role of the Bible in current American political/public life, Duke U. is having a conference later this summer:

[Link: jewishstudies.duke.edu...]

Some of the presentations:

... and more. Should prove to be controversial in certain circles.

Old books are like a box of chocolates.

53 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:06:21pm

re: #51 ggt

Ok, I've been having tons of fun with photoshop and learning to fine-tune things.

click, and say oooh-ahhh

just to make me feel good

oooh-ahhh.

54 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:06:41pm

re: #53 Nucking Futs is the Place to Be.

oooh-ahhh.

Thank you!

55 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:09:20pm

Evening Lizardim. What's new? Anything noteworthy from the world of derpitude?

56 darthstar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:10:47pm

re: #51 ggt

ooh aah

57 freetoken  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:13:24pm

re: #55 thedopefishlives

What's new? Anything noteworthy from the world of derpitude?

Well, Kanye and Kim are wearing Matching His & Her Air Yeezy IIs

58 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:14:06pm
59 jaunte  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:14:20pm

re: #51 ggt

Ooh-aah!

60 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:14:27pm
61 researchok  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:14:44pm

Canada best G20 country to be a woman, India worst

Policies that promote gender equality, safeguards against violence and exploitation and access to healthcare make Canada the best place to be a woman among the world's biggest economies, a global poll of experts showed on Wednesday.

Infanticide, child marriage and slavery make India the worst, the same poll concluded.

Germany, Britain, Australia and France rounded out the top five countries out of the Group of 20 in a perceptions poll of 370 gender specialists conducted by TrustLaw, a legal news service run by Thomson Reuters Foundation.

The United States came in sixth but polarized opinion due to concerns about reproductive rights and affordable healthcare.

62 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:17:15pm

re: #61 researchok

Canada best G20 country to be a woman, India worst

How could the northern commies of Canuckistan pull together a country like that?

63 freetoken  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:18:10pm

Our America, June 12, 2012 edition:

Creation Museum ad campaign features dinosaurs

A Kentucky museum where dinosaurs roam the biblical Garden of Eden is unveiling a national billboard campaign featuring the popular prehistoric reptiles.

The cartoon billboards for the Creation Museum are appearing in several cities including Chicago, San Francisco and Houston and feature colourful dinosaurs drawn in a vintage comic book style.

[...]

The Flintstones ride again!

64 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:18:25pm

re: #58 ggt

Anne Frank would have been 83 today.

Wow... In an amazingly ironic twist (for me), I was just reading her Wikipedia article at random during a lull at work this afternoon.

65 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:18:35pm

re: #51 ggt

Ok, I've been having tons of fun with photoshop and learning to fine-tune things.

click, and say oooh-ahhh

just to make me feel good

Ooh? A a a a a h

66 freetoken  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:19:14pm
67 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:20:17pm
68 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:21:41pm

re: #61 researchok

Canada best G20 country to be a woman, India worst

Today I decided I want to move to Montreal. Use that Francais I studied for so long. Craigslist apts next to the metro for 800.00.

69 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:23:23pm

re: #56 darthstar

re: #59 jaunte

re: #65 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

thank you, thank you, thank you

70 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:23:59pm

re: #68 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

800 a month for rent hmm that is almost what a pay a month on my itsy bitsy Philly row home.

71 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:25:19pm

re: #70 PhillyPretzel

800 a month for rent hmm that is almost what a pay a month on my itsy bitsy Philly row home.

I live in San Diego. Great weather but hard to afford living alone. Philly sounds good too.

72 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:25:21pm

re: #62 Nucking Futs is the Place to Be.

How could the northern commies of Canuckistan pull together a country like that?

Because if you piss the wife off and she kicks you out of the house you freeze to death.
///

73 researchok  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:25:55pm

re: #66 freetoken

No more coffee for you
/

74 freetoken  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:25:56pm

re: #70 PhillyPretzel

$800 barely gets one an unfurnished studio in San Diego. Most decent 1BR apts go for $1000 or so.

Lots of houses popping up for sale too, around here. I see lots of asking prices north of $400K.

75 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:26:02pm

re: #70 PhillyPretzel

800 a month for rent hmm that is almost what a pay a month on my itsy bitsy Philly row home.

I rented a lakeside cabin here in the wild north country for a little more than that. However, that rent did not include utilities.

76 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:26:29pm

re: #72 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Because if you piss the wife off and she kicks you out of the house you freeze to death.
///

I know how to build an igloo.

Ha!

77 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:27:21pm

re: #76 Nucking Futs is the Place to Be.

I know how to build an igloo.

Ha!

Do you use the 1/2 gallon cardboard milk cartons as molds?

78 freetoken  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:28:06pm
79 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:28:12pm

re: #76 Nucking Futs is the Place to Be.

I know how to build an igloo.

Ha!

And the ice weasels say "Crunchy on the outside, chewy on the inside!" OM NOM NOM!
:)

80 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:28:24pm

re: #74 freetoken

$800 barely gets one an unfurnished studio in San Diego. Most decent 1BR apts go for $1000 or so.

Lots of houses popping up for sale too, around here. I see lots of asking prices north of $400K.

I want a 1 Br. What a stretch!!!! I make pretty good salary but it would significantly cramp my living style to do it. Ya, we have the best weather, but I'm no more a beach girl. Reality is setting in.

81 freetoken  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:29:02pm

re: #80 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

The Price of Paradise.

82 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:30:51pm

re: #81 freetoken

The Price of Paradise.

While taking pictures on Maui, I almost tripped over a guy sleeping for free inside a Banyon tree.

83 freetoken  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:32:18pm

re: #82 ggt

San Diego too has a large homeless proposition. Out of sight, out of mind, for the majority who drive their cars on freeways, but if one walks around town and opens one's eyes, you will see them.

84 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:33:27pm

re: #78 freetoken

Is it time for Democrats to panic?

Perhaps.

Great story on NPR today. A lot of the rich democrats don't want to fund super pacs that negatively attack. Based on principle, we hate the super pacs. Guy quoted doesn't want to put his $ there. Republicans tho, no soul, no prob.

We are going to witness the big money campaign like never before. (I sent another $5 yesterday)

85 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:34:45pm

re: #83 freetoken

San Diego too has a large homeless proposition. Out of sight, out of mind, for the majority who drive their cars on freeways, but if one walks around town and opens one's eyes, you will see them.

yeah, it's pretty horrible.

Strangely enough, the guy in the Banyon Tree didn't give me the "homeless" impression. More like an old stoner who hadn't quite figured out yet he wasn't a teenager surfer dude anymore. WE saw a few of them in Hawaii.

86 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:35:25pm

re: #77 ggt

Do you use the 1/2 gallon cardboard milk cartons as molds?

We get enough wind hardened snow banks here the blocks just need to be cut.

87 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:38:05pm

re: #83 freetoken

San Diego too has a large homeless proposition. Out of sight, out of mind, for the majority who drive their cars on freeways, but if one walks around town and opens one's eyes, you will see them.

Up here, our homeless problem is a bit more complicated. We have them, like any major metropolis, but the complicating factor is not abandoning them to die in the bitter cold of the Minnesota winter. I believe that there are abundant homeless shelters scattered throughout the Cities, and Minnesota also has a rather unique program for mitigating winter heating bills.

88 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:43:24pm

re: #87 thedopefishlives

Up here, our homeless problem is a bit more complicated. We have them, like any major metropolis, but the complicating factor is not abandoning them to die in the bitter cold of the Minnesota winter. I believe that there are abundant homeless shelters scattered throughout the Cities, and Minnesota also has a rather unique program for mitigating winter heating bills.

My bro works at a shelter in Orlando Fl. People he can't help - those who can't stay sober. (they, like I think all, are no tolerance dry). They feed during the day, but showers and a bed require sobriety.

89 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:44:07pm

Depressing

90 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:45:11pm

bbl

92 engineer cat  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:46:39pm

talking to mr jax b.re: #84 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

Great story on NPR today. A lot of the rich democrats don't want to fund super pacs that negatively attack. Based on principle, we hate the super pacs. Guy quoted doesn't want to put his $ there. Republicans tho, no soul, no prob.

We are going to witness the big money campaign like never before. (I sent another $5 yesterday)

republicans will win in the end because democrats are unwilling to fight as dirty and lie as much

hey, as long as i have a feudal lord job i guess i'll be ok

93 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:47:51pm

re: #91 Gus

The question isn't whether you are paranoid but instead are you paranoid enough?

What in God's name is that?! It looks like the software architecture diagram for the Business System from Hell.

94 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:48:53pm

Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

95 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:48:59pm

re: #93 thedopefishlives

What in God's name is that?! It looks like the software architecture diagram for the Business System from Hell.

Oh. Some crazy shit about "This Chart Shows The Bilderberg Group's Connection To Everything In The World!!11ty"

Want the link? :O

96 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:49:27pm
97 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:50:04pm

re: #96 Varek Raith

DoD procurement chart???
///

You win an Internet.

98 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:50:57pm

re: #97 thedopefishlives

You win an Internet.

An internet? How many internets are there and who is hiding the rest of these internets? The Juice?

//

99 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:51:26pm

re: #98 Gus

An internet? How many internets are there and who is hiding the rest of these internets? The Juice?

//

They're in the middle of that Bilderberg Group chart.

100 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:51:33pm

re: #95 Gus

Oh. Some crazy shit about "This Chart Shows The Bilderberg Group's Connection To Everything In The World!!11ty"

Want the link? :O

Who! Fucking! Cares! about the Bilderberg group?

101 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:52:25pm

How long do you think it took to make that chart???
Lol.

102 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:52:40pm

re: #100 Nucking Futs is the Place to Be.

Who! Fucking! Cares! about the Bilderberg group?

Who? The people that wear flesh colored helmets that's who!

//

103 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:53:37pm

re: #101 Varek Raith

How long do you think it took to make that chart???
Lol.

People who are that paranoid have a lot of time on their hands.

104 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:54:08pm

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

105 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:57:19pm

re: #104 Varek Raith

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

A cat would have said, "Big fucking deal, get me some food".
XD

106 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:58:29pm

re: #102 Gus

Who? The people that wear flesh colored helmets that's who!

//

I really think there is a group of Psychologists putting out all these ridiculous conspiracy theories.

107 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:01:00pm

re: #106 Nucking Futs is the Place to Be.

I really think there is a group of Psychologists putting out all these ridiculous conspiracy theories.

I always thought they were trolls.
/

108 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:03:43pm

re: #107 Varek Raith

I always thought they were trolls.
/

Sharia and the Bilderbergs is taking over the universe!

109 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:04:42pm

re: #108 Gus

Sharia and the Bilderbergs is taking over the universe!

How would that work, exactly? Aren't the Bilderbergs controlled by Da Juice? Seems to be a little at odds with the whole concept of Sharia...

110 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:05:14pm

re: #109 thedopefishlives

How would that work, exactly? Aren't the Bilderbergs controlled by Da Juice? Seems to be a little at odds with the whole concept of Sharia...

Good cop bad cop! It's a trick!

//

111 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:06:24pm

re: #109 thedopefishlives

How would that work, exactly? Aren't the Bilderbergs controlled by Da Juice? Seems to be a little at odds with the whole concept of Sharia...

You're distracted by talk of Sharia and thus do not notice them taking control.
/

112 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:09:16pm

re: #111 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

You're distracted by talk of Sharia and thus do not notice them taking control.
/

So THAT'S what Geller, Spencer, et al., are being paid to do! I KNEW IT!!!!1!one

113 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:11:16pm

re: #111 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

You're distracted by talk of Sharia and thus do not notice them taking control.
/

...

Submit to the TRUTH that the Bilderbergs are controlling the universe and begin the revolution NOW to transfer the power to the people, Alex Jones Naomi Wolf and a bunch of anarchist-baristas!!11ty

114 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:14:51pm

re: #106 Nucking Futs is the Place to Be.

I really think there is a group of Psychologists putting out all these ridiculous conspiracy theories.

That's the same kind of argument that some level against antivirus companies, saying the companies create viruses, Trojans, and malware so that unsuspecting suckers people buy their AV programs.

Kooksville...

///

115 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:15:22pm

re: #114 Gitarzan

That's the same kind of argument that some level against antivirus companies, saying the companies create viruses, Trojans, and malware so that unsuspecting suckers people buy that AV programs.

Kooksville...

Norton IS malware!!!

116 danarchy  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:16:29pm

re: #115 Varek Raith

Norton IS malware!!!

Mcafee is much more virulent than Norton...

117 Digital Display  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:17:37pm

Cont. riff on my 4 year anniversary today.
yea..You want to read this for the heck of it..
When I first got here our family was completely stressed with Jordan being in Iraq. I received such support from you lizards. My avatars were of my goofy son posing in Iraq in a war zone. In fact, At the Time I posted about a 3am Satt call from a rooftop in Fallujah.. I was exhausted when I wrote it and I believe it got more updings that any post in LGF history..But the backstory... The Iraq war ripped our family apart.. The stress every day was beyond imagination. My wife and I fought every day over nothing.. Nothing.. Just pure stress.. Hard to understand but within weeks we hated each other and I would post here just to keep my sanity. Not once did I tell you my life was melting away. We would fight over everything for no reason.
You guys really were a rock for me.. I would just post away and carefree.
After Jordan came home my Family moved back home to California. I was all alone in Indiana.. I just kept posting and you put up with me..
One day Paulie came by and dumped a dog on me.. Little Winston..
I have never had a pet in my life and wasn't in the mood to start.
Hundreds of posts later he has brought real joy to my heart..My little buddy that hangs out with me.

118 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:21:22pm

I've got a Gal in Kalamazoo

This is from "Orchestra Wives" in which Ann Rutherford who died today played a part. Glass of whiskey, big band and some fine bud. Ahhh.

119 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:26:03pm

re: #117 Digital Display

Happy LGF Birfday!

120 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:31:48pm

re: #119 Dancing along the light of day

You know you want a smiling Giraffe.

121 Digital Display  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:31:58pm

re: #119 Dancing along the light of day

Happy LGF Birfday!

And you..My favorite cute Lizard. You are awesome. ( Yes I love ya and buzzed watching the NBA Championship )
When I stop working this summer I think I need to visit a flower show for the hell of it..If you tell my friends I'll deny this post.. :)
/Hope today finds you well

122 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:33:00pm

re: #117 Digital Display

Happy LGF-versary.

123 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:35:45pm

re: #120 Killgore Trout

You know you want a smiling Giraffe.

Caution: Pic contains a mega-dose of Cute. those with high cuteness sensitives should exercise care in viewing it.

124 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:39:26pm

re: #120 Killgore Trout

You know you want a smiling Giraffe.

It's just gas.

125 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:39:50pm

re: #117 Digital Display

Amazing. Love ya Hoops.

126 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:41:15pm

re: #120 Killgore Trout

You know you want a smiling Giraffe.

Why thank you!

127 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:47:59pm

re: #126 Dancing along the light of day

Why thank you!

:)

128 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:51:37pm

re: #121 Digital Display

This one is amazing & in February
[Link: www.orchidsanfrancisco.org...]

And this is walking distance from the flowers!
[Link: www.greensrestaurant.com...]
Nom nom nom

129 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:52:34pm

Red Letter Media Talks About Prometheus [SPOILERS]

(Somewhat vulgar...)

130 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:52:50pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

[Link: funnyanimal4u.blogspot.com...]
Froggies!

131 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:53:53pm

WTF. I just found out that ambulance chaser Gloria Allred is involved in the Miami face-eater case.

Rudy Eugene's Girlfriend Yovanka Bryant, Gloria Allred Say 'Miami Cannibal' Was Religious, Non-Violent (VIDEO)

Here's the results of the non-violent boyfriend:

New Ronald Poppo Photos Released; Doctors Say Face-Chewing Victim 'Doing Well' (VIDEO, GRAPHIC PHOTOS)

132 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:56:02pm

Guillermo del Toro’s "Pacific Rim": Cthulhu vs Battle-Mech

It’s been nearly four years since Guillermo del Toro’s last directorial project (Hellboy II), but he recently wrapped a brand new directorial effort: Pacific Rim. The film involves “the finest fucking monsters ever committed to screen” and centers on a battle between ginormous creatures and human-manned robots. Del Toro recently talked about building several blocks of Hong Kong for the film only to demolish them all, and now the first image from Pacific Rim has landed online. While it’s not exactly a still from a scene, it gives us our first look at star Idris Elba in his Pacific Rim costume, and we start to get a feel for the atmosphere that del Toro will be bringing to the project. Though he only recently entered post-production, I expect we’ll get our first look at footage at Comic-Con in a couple of weeks. You can read our recent interview with Elba, in which he talks about working on Pacific Rim, right here.

Hit the jump to check out the image. The film also stars Charlie Hunnam, Rinko Kikuchi, Charlie Day and Ron Perlman. Pacific Rim opens on July 12th, 2013.

133 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:57:29pm

re: #131 Gus

Ugh, really? What's her dog in this hunt?

134 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:58:08pm

For those of you feeling down about the steady MSM anti-Obama drumbeat, some perspective: bit.ly/KlRoy8 #ourfailedmediaexperiment

Link, you gotta cut & paste (iPad sorrows). Balloon Juice.

135 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:58:58pm

re: #132 Kragar

Did you hear about this news, though?

Did Prometheus kill Guillermo Del Toro’s Mountains of Madness movie?

136 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:59:02pm

re: #131 Gus

WTF. I just found out that ambulance chaser Gloria Allred is involved in the Miami face-eater case.

Rudy Eugene's Girlfriend Yovanka Bryant, Gloria Allred Say 'Miami Cannibal' Was Religious, Non-Violent (VIDEO)

Here's the results of the non-violent boyfriend:

New Ronald Poppo Photos Released; Doctors Say Face-Chewing Victim 'Doing Well' (VIDEO, GRAPHIC PHOTOS)

Seriously folks, I've seen the photos and they are not for those who are easily frightened. But I hope the man who was attacked makes as full a recovery as possible, and I hope Gloria Allred gets mocked as the bottom feeder she is.

137 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:59:09pm

re: #133 thedopefishlives

Ugh, really? What's her dog in this hunt?

My only guess would be an excessive force claim and a multi-million dollar settlement from the City of Miami and the Miami PD for her client.

138 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:01:31pm

re: #132 Kragar

Guillermo del Toro’s "Pacific Rim": Cthulhu vs Battle-Mech

Best of luck to Idris Elba, though. Much love for Stringer Bell over here.

139 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:02:19pm

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

Seriously folks, I've seen the photos and they are not for those who are easily frightened. But I hope the man who was attacked makes as full a recovery as possible, and I hope Gloria Allred gets mocked as the bottom feeder she is.

I never heard of such a thing. What I'm assuming that Allred is aiming for here. Then again, we're talking Allred who can make anyone look like a victim.

Heck. Maybe Osama bin Laden's widow should sue. //

140 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:09:42pm

re: #137 Gus

My only guess would be an excessive force claim and a multi-million dollar settlement from the City of Miami and the Miami PD for her client.

A target of opportunity, then. I'm not a terribly big fan of lawyers to begin with, but scum-sucking profiteers like her really rankle. It's bordering on abuse of the legal system.

141 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:10:15pm

re: #138 It's a cookbook!

Best of luck to Idris Elba, though. Much love for Stringer Bell over here.

An excellent tragic character, one I think even William Shakespeare would have appreciated. It was unusual to have the tragic hero of Season 3 by the leader of a crime syndicate, but Simon and Burns made it work very well and in Elba they had an actor capable of bring the part to full life.

142 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:12:18pm

re: #141 Dark_Falcon

An excellent tragic character, one I think even William Shakespeare would have appreciated. It was unusual to have the tragic hero of Season 3 by the leader of a crime syndicate, but Simon and Burns made it work very well and in Elba they had an actor capable of bring the part to full life.

Well, it's hard to put the word "hero" anywhere near Bell's name. Yeah, he was trying to walk the straight and narrow, but with ill-gotten gains.

143 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:13:38pm

re: #135 It's a cookbook!

Did you hear about this news, though?

Did Prometheus kill Guillermo Del Toro’s Mountains of Madness movie?

Yeah, thats old news.

144 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:13:55pm

re: #140 thedopefishlives

A target of opportunity, then. I'm not a terribly big fan of lawyers to begin with, but scum-sucking profiteers like her really rankle. It's bordering on abuse of the legal system.

Yeah. It's sort of like "sorry I don't know what to tell ya' lady. You don't get to walk away a millionaire because of this tragedy. Sorry for your loss but your husband was in the process of murdering someone when he was shot and killed. If you need any help here's the number for social services. As far as giving you 2.8 million dollars I'm afraid we won't be able to do that."

145 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:14:29pm

re: #138 It's a cookbook!

Best of luck to Idris Elba, though. Much love for Stringer Bell over here.

I'm a Luther fan.

146 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:16:02pm

re: #144 Gus

Yeah. It's sort of like "sorry I don't know what to tell ya' lady. You don't get to walk away a millionaire because of this tragedy. Sorry for your loss but your husband was in the process of murdering someone when he was shot and killed. If you need any help here's the number for social services. As far as giving you 2.8 million dollars I'm afraid we won't be able to do that."

If she can get millions from that, I should've gotten millions from getting run over by a dump truck.

147 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:16:55pm

re: #146 thedopefishlives

If she can get millions from that, I should've gotten millions from getting run over by a dump truck.

Oh my. What happened there?

148 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:17:25pm

re: #133 thedopefishlives

Ugh, really? What's her dog in this hunt?

Hopefully to attack the war on drugs as a counter productive, damaging, entirely negative influence on society. Bath salts would never exist without it, the only reason they were invented was to exploit a narrow legal loophole, and while some States have caught on they still haven't been banned nationally or added to the Schedule 1 list. Once they are the chemists with come up with something else. Treating drug use, possession and addiction in itself as a criminal rather than medical problem is adding fuel to the fire. Society is playing an ever losing game of whack a mole with people's lives and livelihoods, and creating a market for more and more harmful drugs in the process.

149 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:17:51pm

Idris Elba on Pacific Rim:

You did two sci-fi things back-to-back, Pacific Rim and this. How did the monsters compare?
Well, Guillermo del Toro’s film is much more an Earth/human story with the looming attack of another race. Very different. Guillermo del Toro is an amazing director to work with. I learned so much about precision from him — about looking at you now and then looking one layer behind you at the leaves and then looking at the wall behind you and then looking at shadows on the wall. My depth of field is now so unbelievably clear I feel like I want to direct now because of what Guillermo taught me.

Really? What were the various things that you learned from him?
His attention to detail is amazing. His attention to sort of how to manipulate the audience to keep driving them forward in the story. As an actor, you kind of say the words, but he wanted us to really connect to each emotion. Whether the last time you saw me on the screen was six minutes ago or not, there was a real sort of connection to each one any time you were seeing me. That’s not something you teach, but it’s something that I was aware that he was paying attention to. It was interesting.

What does your character do?
He's yet another man of authority, but this time much higher up. He's the head of the army and the army is the essential fighting force against these monsters. The world is crumbled and this alien lived underneath the surface of the Earth for a long time. Our only defense has been these massive robots that fight back — they're basically tanks that are put together to look like men and can walk. I play the leader of that sort of movement. Then we lose our funding, basically, and the world decides to build walls around countries, which basically means the rich can get in and the poor can't. So our characters go, "No. We're going to fight this our way." It could be a box-standard, fight-against-the-aliens sort of film, but not with Guillermo.

It sounds like it's almost a commentary on class and immigration.
Well, it’s certainly a commentary on if the world were under attack who would survive and who wouldn’t. Interestingly enough, the poor would probably more survive than the rich.

Why is that?
Because they have less and are used to less; therefore, more resilient and more tough. If an alien attacks a big skyscraper, people in the skyscraper are going to die. The people on the floor may not.

150 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:18:02pm

re: #147 Gus

Oh my. What happened there?

That's old news - almost 6 years old, in fact. I was stopped behind a lady turning left, dump truck driver wasn't paying attention and plowed through the whole line of waiting traffic. Tore my Chevy 1/2 ton truck in half and busted open my nose.

151 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:20:01pm

re: #148 goddamnedfrank

Hopefully to attack the war on drugs as a counter productive, damaging, entirely negative influence on society. Bath salts would never exist without it, the only reason they were invented was to exploit a narrow legal loophole, and while some States have caught on they still haven't been banned nationally or added to the Schedule 1 list. Once they are the chemists with come up with something else. Treating drug use, possession and addiction in itself as a criminal rather than medical problem is adding fuel to the fire. Society is playing an ever losing game of whack a mole with people's lives and livelihoods, and creating a market for more and more harmful drugs in the process.

Yeah. I'm sure that's what Gloria Allred is after. ;)

152 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:20:05pm

re: #142 It's a cookbook!

Well, it's hard to put the word "hero" anywhere near Bell's name. Yeah, he was trying to walk the straight and narrow, but with ill-gotten gains.

It's somewhat hard to put the 'hero' label on Macbeth, too. You can use the the phrase "tragic protagonist" if you wish, but the classic term is "tragic hero". And as the creators of the Wire have openly stated they roots of the show in Greek Tragedy, it is hard not to see Stringer Bell as a tragic figure: He has strength, intelligence, and charisma and wit those seeks to mold Baltimore's drug trade in his image. But his betrayals and cruelties catch up with him, leading to his demise at the hands of two men he had wronged. But even at that last, Stringer does not whine and like Marshal Ney commands his executioners to fire.

153 freetoken  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:20:30pm

Amazingly, during tonight's constitutional I found... still firm loquats! Only a few, but on a tree that looks like it is from a selected variety. Sadly, the ground was covered with fallen, rotten fruit (and even more still on the tree.) So sad, really - I perhaps am the only one to have eaten fruit from that tree this year.

154 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:20:36pm

It's not my fault I got stoned out of my mind and drank 12 bottles of vodka. It's the government's fault!

//

155 darthstar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:21:51pm
156 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:22:22pm

re: #155 darthstar

It took a second for that one to register. Then I groaned.

157 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:23:05pm

re: #149 Kragar

Walking tanks that look like men?

Sounds like a game I play.

158 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:23:45pm

re: #156 thedopefishlives

It took a second for that one to register. Then I groaned.

So did Larry...

159 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:24:02pm

re: #158 Kragar

So did Larry...

*WHACK!*

160 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:25:33pm

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

Walking tanks that look like men?

Sounds like a game I play.

Its like a titan, only smaller

Image: 24764_md-Apocalypse,%20Titan,%20Warhammer%2040,000,%20Warlord.jpg

161 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:26:02pm

re: #159 thedopefishlives

*WHACK!*

Yeah, that probably occurred as well.

162 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:28:46pm

re: #151 Gus

Yeah. I'm sure that's what Gloria Allred is after. ;)

Why wouldn't it be? Put your cynicism aside for a moment and ask where the money is coming from? There probably isn't any. So she's motivated by publicity, yes, but any lawyer would want to humanize their client. Do you really think eating faces was on this dude's agenda before he snorted (or smoked or whatever) a highly experimental drug that had zero in the way of clinical trials or IRB oversight? I don't, I think this shit does what the doctor's in ER's have come to believe it does, cause psychotic breaks and insanely violent behavior.

Should the guy be locked up for the assault, absolutely, but that's really not going to solve the structural problem with society that caused Bath Salts to be created. It won't do anything to keep the next generation of designer drugs off the streets. I don't really give a shit about Allred one way or another, but if she can use her influence to shed even an iota of light on the real problem then more power to her.

163 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:29:32pm

Alright, I'm outta here until tomorrow. Later lizards.

164 CarleeCork  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:29:38pm

re: #3 Obdicut

Romney is both being more of a dick and far more conservative than I would have thought, at this time in the election.

That should tell you something.

165 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:33:22pm

re: #160 Kragar

Its like a titan, only smaller

Image: 24764_md-Apocalypse,%20Titan,%20Warhammer%2040,000,%20Warlord.jpg

Well, we've got a thing to take on a Titan now. It's called an Omega, which is probably some sort of 40K heresy. It weighs 150 metric tons and mounts two Light Barrel, Extended Range (LB-X) Class 10 Autocannons and three magnetic accelerator cannons called Gauss Rifles. It'll smash your titan to rubble! MU-WAHAHAHA!!!

166 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:33:55pm

re: #162 goddamnedfrank

You're entitled to your opinion.

167 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:38:40pm

re: #166 Gus

You're entitled to your opinion.

Settle down, Gus. Here, have some of this lobster. Story is here.

168 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:38:44pm

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

Well, we've got a thing to take on a Titan now. It's called an Omega, which is probably some sort of 40K heresy. It weighs 150 metric tons and mounts two Light Barrel, Extended Range (LB-X) Class 10 Autocannons and three magnetic accelerator cannons called Gauss Rifles. It'll smash your titan to rubble! MU-WAHAHAHA!!!

Thats why they have Imperator Titans.

Image: 55895_md-Games%20Day,%20Games%20Day%202009,%20Imperiator,%20Titan.JPG

169 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:41:32pm

re: #168 Kragar

Thats why they have Imperator Titans.

Image: 55895_md-Games%20Day,%20Games%20Day%202009,%20Imperiator,%20Titan.JPG

OK, for that we're gonna need a nuke. Thankfully, Battletech has rules for those. :D

170 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:43:44pm

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

OK, for that we're gonna need a nuke. Thankfully, Battletech has rules for those. :D

That is what Exterminatus is for.

171 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:44:44pm

re: #167 Dark_Falcon

Settle down, Gus. Here, have some of this lobster. Story is here.

Sorry. I am settled down. I was outside smoking and I'm having a Chelada in here.

172 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:48:28pm

re: #170 Kragar

That is what Exterminatus is for.

I retort with my trump card, a Star Trek engagement ring.

173 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:51:28pm

re: #172 Dark_Falcon

I retort with my trump card, a Star Trek engagement ring.

The Doctor Who-Space Shuttle-Star Trek Ring

174 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:55:01pm

re: #173 Kragar

The Doctor Who-Space Shuttle-Star Trek Ring

the one I showed has a sapphire, while yours has no gem. So I win!

175 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:57:36pm

re: #174 Dark_Falcon

the one I showed has a sapphire, while yours has no gem. So I win!

But diamonds are a girl's best friend...

Dr. Who TARDIS Themed Engagement Ring

176 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:58:27pm

Some love music.

177 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:00:16pm

re: #176 Gus

Some love music.

[Embedded content]

178 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:05:37pm

this cracked me up for some reason

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.co.uk...]

179 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:08:47pm

re: #178 SpaceJesus

this cracked me up for some reason

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.co.uk...]

Meanwhile did you see this? (Spoilers abound in the link)

Space Jesus was actually part of the Prometheus script at one point before Ridley Scott took it out.

Rob's Prometheus FAQ

180 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:09:13pm
181 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:10:21pm

Might be time for a USAF safety film.

182 Mich-again  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:14:28pm

Maybe Romney will have another sekrit summit with the non-wingnut ex-Republican bloggers to reassure them all that his lurch to the extreme right is just a temporary play to get the neo-nazis, Birchers, Tea Party nutjobs, conspiracy kooks, Brietfarts, climate deniers, ID pushers, and the religious right to support him until after the election.

yeah right. He's all in with the kooks.

183 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:18:32pm

re: #179 Kragar

My agent had words with him

184 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:19:43pm
185 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:31:17pm

Not good.

Euro 2012: Football fans in Warsaw clash

Clashes between rival Russian and Polish football fans in the Polish capital Warsaw have marred a Euro 2012 tie between the two teams.

A march ahead of the match by thousands of Russian fans to mark their national day had to be halted and some missiles were thrown.

Police say they arrested at least 120 people and that 10 people were injured.

A heavy police presence was in evidence around the stadium after the match as further clashes broke out...

186 freetoken  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:38:13pm

re: #185 Gus

I'm sure VDARE will point out how the brown skinned youth are uncivilized monsters... oh, wait... you said Poland and Russia... never mind.

187 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:38:53pm

re: #186 freetoken

I'm sure VDARE will point out how the brown skinned youth are uncivilized monsters... oh, wait... you said Poland and Russia... never mind.

Yeah. Those types search for that.

188 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:41:47pm

Recent Blue Angels Facebook album. 2 weeks ago; Andrews AFB.

189 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:42:13pm

And this game has intrigued me by the simple tagline "Revenge solves everything."

190 Gus  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:51:23pm
191 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:54:00pm

Jeez, and if this game is half as good as its gameplay trailer...

192 Kragar  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:55:21pm

Just finished Dawn of War II- Chaos Rising, and tried the chaos storyline. I won the game and the story arc ended with me getting my head crushed by a hammer.

That was unexpected.

193 Mich-again  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 10:02:21pm

This snuck up on me and has become one of my favorite songs. Dangit I can't get it out of my head.. Incubus. If Not Now, When.

194 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 10:19:06pm

Good night, all.

195 freetoken  Tue, Jun 12, 2012 11:08:49pm

The not so subtle nod to Morricone I appreciate in this:

196 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 12:18:28am

Some good news out of Arizona:

Former Giffords aide wins election to finish her term

(CNN) – Democrat Ron Barber won a special election in Arizona on Tuesday to fill the remainder of former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' term in Congress, CNN projects.
[...]
A former Giffords aide, Barber was critically injured during last year's mass shooting that killed six and injured 13 others, including Giffords, who suffered a gunshot wound to the head. She resigned in January, about a year after the shooting.

197 EdDantes  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 12:39:38am

re: #196 RadicalModerate

Wonderful news. I can barely contain myself.

198 researchok  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 1:38:42am

Good Morning, all

199 freetoken  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 3:56:53am
200 freetoken  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 3:58:36am

Whoops, I think I meant this one:

201 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 4:30:19am

Survey Says!
Lets those boys hang free
[Link: www.independent.co.uk...]
Tighty whiteys are out if you want strong swimmers

202 AK-47%  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 4:39:23am

Tight jockstraps are ruining the dominance of the White Race in America!

/

203 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 5:21:03am

Morning Lizardim.

204 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 5:29:12am

Famous movie misquotes:
[Link: blog.timesunion.com...]
Dirty Harry is my favorite.

205 AK-47%  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 5:42:43am

re: #204 Tommy's cone of shame

Famous movie misquotes:
[Link: blog.timesunion.com...]
Dirty Harry is my favorite.

weasels ripped my flesh...

206 Interesting Times  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 6:26:24am
207 AK-47%  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 6:40:40am

The GOP still tries to sell us the image of the Obamas as disconnected, effete, clueless snobs.

208 Mattand  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 6:57:56am

re: #15 dragonfire1981

Maybe. Stewart would probably be better than most of the talking heads at a POTUS debate, but sometimes his MBF reflex gets annoying.

This video is a good example. Maybe I'm being dense, but is Stewart saying Obama actually committed a gaffe with the initial "private sector is fine" comment? Or is he mocking the idea that the comment was taken out of context?

209 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:02:55am

re: #206 Interesting Times

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Or Rush Limbaugh making comments about people's looks. Oh, wait.

210 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:09:12am

Henry Hill died. Goodfellas, a classic.

211 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:11:51am

Good morning lizards!

212 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:16:10am
213 Interesting Times  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:18:59am

Media/Democrat party!!11! Derp.

214 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:22:10am

re: #213 Interesting Times

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damn liburl media how ever does it work.

215 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:27:05am

re: #213 Interesting Times

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Does he have proof that he's a "GOP operative"?

216 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:28:55am

[Link: www.theonion.com...] Haha nice.

217 Interesting Times  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:29:07am

re: #214 HappyWarrior

damn liburl media how ever does it work.

And just what kind of track record does said hack have?

Herpty derp, chickens, counting, hatched, and all that:

(Milwaukee, WI)) -- Wisconsin Democrats moved closer to a recall win in the state Senate after a vote canvass in Racine County padded their candidate's lead by 55 votes.

218 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:32:16am

re: #217 Interesting Times

[Embedded content] Herpty derp, chickens, counting, hatched, and all that:

What a hack.

219 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:33:20am

"Gallup has Obama ahead by 5 points!"

"Hooray for Gallup!"

Two weeks later...

"Gallup has Obama behind by 5 points!"

"Boo! Gallup is owned by Republicans!!"

220 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:40:59am

Gah, about 21 hours to go. Just the kitchen and my son's toys are all that's really left.

Then comes the 5 hour drive. Then the UNpacking.

Gah. The word for the day is GAH and the number of the day is the several thousands of dollars that the moving van costs... :banghead:

---------

And how is your morning going everyone?

221 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:42:44am

re: #220 William Barnett-Lewis

Gah, about 21 hours to go. Just the kitchen and my son's toys are all that's really left.

Then comes the 5 hour drive. Then the UNpacking.

Gah. The word for the day is GAH and the number of the day is the several thousands of dollars that the moving van costs... :banghead:

---

And how is your morning going everyone?

Mah brain hurtz. I blame the whiskey lobby. //

222 Interesting Times  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:44:08am

re: #219 Gus

"Gallup has Obama ahead by 5 points!"

"Hooray for Gallup!"

Two weeks later...

"Gallup has Obama behind by 5 points!"

"Boo! Gallup is owned by Republicans!!"

That's not the kind of stuff JeffersonObama does. I asked him last month where he gets his data, and this was his reply:

223 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:44:37am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Henry Hill has died. If that name sounds familiar, then you too probably watched Scorcese's classic (and I would argue best film) GoodFellas, which was largely based on Hill's real life exploits.

224 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:45:31am

re: #222 Interesting Times

That's not the kind of stuff JeffersonObama does. I asked him last month where he gets his data, and this was his reply:

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That's fine. I unfollowed him last month.

225 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:46:30am

re: #223 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Henry Hill has died. If that name sounds familiar, then you too probably watched Scorcese's classic (and I would argue best film) Goodfellas, which was largely based on Hill's real life exploits.

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I heard. Definitely among Marty's best and that's saying a lot given his resume.

226 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:52:08am

re: #220 William Barnett-Lewis

Gah, about 21 hours to go. Just the kitchen and my son's toys are all that's really left.

Then comes the 5 hour drive. Then the UNpacking.

Gah. The word for the day is GAH and the number of the day is the several thousands of dollars that the moving van costs... :banghead:

---

And how is your morning going everyone?

Do you have internet at the new place, or will we just have to sit here and wonder how the unpacking is going?

Enjoy the 5 hour drive. It might be nice, right?

227 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:55:31am

US 'troubled' at report of Cuba dissident abuse

WASHINGTON — The United States voiced concern Tuesday at the reported beating by authorities in Cuba of a prominent dissident who spoke by remote link with US lawmakers about the Communist-run island.

"The United States is disturbed by reports that Cuban authorities arrested and physically assaulted Jorge Luis Garcia Perez, otherwise known as Antunez, on June 9th," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said.

Nuland explained that the detention came two days after Antunez testified before a Senate foreign relations subcommittee, stressing: "This treatment is contrary to respect for universally recognized human rights."

In Havana, a dissident source confirmed that Antunez had been detained.
"He was beaten, and he has told his family he fainted after (state security agents) sprayed him with something" in the face, said a member of the Cuban Committee for Human Rights and National Reconciliation, a dissident information clearinghouse.

The person, who asked not to be named, said Antunez was "savagely beaten" in his own home in Placetas, in the central Cuban province of Santa Clara.

Nuland called for the immediate release of Antunez, and "the end of government-sponsored retaliatory harassment, violence and arbitrary detention in Cuba."

228 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:55:52am

re: #226 wrenchwench

Do you have internet at the new place, or will we just have to sit here and wonder how the unpacking is going?

Enjoy the 5 hour drive. It might be nice, right?

The Boss is dragging her feet about the internet - it would be good for the family after all to go all summer without it after all :roll-eyes: I figure that will last much less than a month before she misses all the TV she watches online. I'll have to go to the public library every day to check my email and such like.

230 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 7:59:09am

re: #228 William Barnett-Lewis

The Boss is dragging her feet about the internet - it would be good for the family after all to go all summer without it after all :roll-eyes: I figure that will last much less than a month before she misses all the TV she watches online. I'll have to go to the public library every day to check my email and such like.

Lots of changes. Can be great, can be tough. Enjoy the library trips. We have no TV and no internet at home, but obviously I have internet all day at work. And we play chess at home. And I win most of the time, so that's OK.

231 Interesting Times  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:00:23am
232 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:01:43am
233 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:04:50am
234 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:06:19am

L-1011 Aircraft Takes Off, Pegasus/NuSTAR Ready for Launch
Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:01:41 AM MDT

The Orbital Sciences' L-1011 aircraft carrying the Pegasus XL rocket has taken off from the runway at Kwajalein Atoll. Launch is set for noon EDT. The drop location for the Pegasus is 117 nautical miles south of Kwajalein, at an altitude of 39,000 feet over the Pacific Ocean. This location is 6.75 degrees above the equator. The NuSTAR spacecraft separation occurs 13 minutes, 14 seconds after deployment from the L-1011.

Weather is 100 percent "go" for launch.

Follow live coverage on [Link: www.nasa.gov...] and on the NASA launch blog at [Link: www.nasa.gov...]

235 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:06:42am

L-1011! Vintage!

236 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:07:52am

re: #234 Gus

L-1011 Aircraft Takes Off, Pegasus/NuSTAR Ready for Launch
Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:01:41 AM MDT

3:07am Thursday (MHT) - Time in Kwajalein, Marshall Islands

237 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:09:00am

I think they need some education reform in Gaza...

Gaza kindergartners want to 'blow up Zionists'

Children attending a kindergarten in Gaza that is run by Islamic Jihad celebrated their graduation by dressing up in army attire, waving toy rifles and chanting anti-Israel slogans.

"It is our obligation to educate the children to love the resistance, Palestine and Jerusalem, so they will recognize the importance of Palestine and who its enemy is," the kindergarten's director said.

The children were dressed up in uniforms of Jihad's armed-wing, the al-Quds Brigades, and each of them received a toy rifle. Some of them held up photos of Islamic Jihad founder Fathi Shaqaqi.

...During the ceremony the children were asked to stand next to mock coffins draped with flags of the various armed factions. The flags bore the images of "shahids (martyrs)."

One child, Hamza, said "When I grow up I'll join Islamic Jihad and the al-Quds Brigades. I'll fight the Zionist enemy and fire missiles at it until I die as a shahid and join my father in heaven.

"I love the resistance and the martyrs and Palestine, and I want to blow myself up on Zionists and kill them on a bus in a suicide bombing," he said.

238 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:10:07am

How California's GM food referendum may change what America eats

In Europe, only 5% of food sold contains GMOs, a figure that continues to shrink. In the US, by contrast, an estimated 70% of the products on supermarket shelves include at least traces of genetically engineered crops – mostly, corn and soy byproducts and canola oil, which are ingredients in many of America's processed foods.

Given their unpopularity with consumers, labeling "Frankenfoods" would undoubtedly hurt sales, possibly even forcing supermarkets to take them off their shelves. In one survey, just over half of those polled said they would not buy food that they knew to be genetically modified.

I don;t think it will make any difference. Most people already know they're eating GM food and I don't think labels are going to change that. Anyways, the GM corn is probably among the least problematic ingredient in processed food anyways.

239 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:12:37am

re: #238 Killgore Trout

How California's GM food referendum may change what America eats

I don;t think it will make any difference. Most people already know they're eating GM food and I don't think labels are going to change that. Anyways, the GM corn is probably among the least problematic ingredient in processed food anyways.

Oh yeah. A referendum. I'm sure it's all based on real science. //

240 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:14:16am

re: #237 NJDhockeyfan
It's always sad to see this kind of thing
Image: 1_wa.jpg
'Until I die as a shahid.' Gaza kids during party

241 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:15:30am

re: #235 Gus

L1011? That's old school and then some. Then again, it was probably cheap to obtain and modify than to get something more current (say an MD-8x) and/or there was something about the L1011 that made it a better platform for drop launches.

242 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:16:58am

re: #241 lawhawk

L1011? That's old school and then some. Then again, it was probably cheap to obtain and modify than to get something more current (say an MD-8x) and/or there was something about the L1011 that made it a better platform for drop launches.

The MD's are far too low. The other alternative would be a DC-10/MD-11 type config. There's a lot of nice L-1011s still around especially around Mojave. Not sure what the story is with this one. Let me look...

243 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:17:50am

re: #238 Killgore Trout

How California's GM food referendum may change what America eats

I don;t think it will make any difference. Most people already know they're eating GM food and I don't think labels are going to change that. Anyways, the GM corn is probably among the least problematic ingredient in processed food anyways.

It's all in the labeling. If they say it's 'genetically slimed', it's history.

244 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:20:13am
In the early 1990s, Orbital Sciences began to use a converted L-1011-100 named Stargazer to launch Pegasus rockets into orbit around Earth. This venture effectively rendered the small Scout rocket obsolete.[43][44] This aircraft was also used in support of the X-34 and X-43 programs. NASA performed aerodynamic research on Orbital Science's L-1011 in 1995.[45]
245 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:21:06am
246 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:23:17am

Oldest photo:

C-FTNJ / 510 (cn 193E-1067) Air Canada 790 heavy is pushing back for departure runway 24L routing LAX-YYZ. First flight was February 22, 1974. Delivery date was March 9, 1974. Other serials - 4R-TNJ with Air Lanka, and also N140SC with Orbital Sciences. Stored at MHV temporarily before operating with Orbital Sciences.

There it is. MHV. That would be Mojave.

247 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:25:35am

Check out this Twitter tag:

#FailedRomneySlogans

249 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:27:26am

re: #247 Learned Mother of Zion

Check out this Twitter tag:

#FailedRomneySlogans

"Change that we believe in until otherwise determined."

250 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:28:15am

re: #235 Gus

L-1011! Vintage!

I've always wanted to fly on a Lockheed airliner but it's always been Douglas/MD or Boeing. Prettiest liner I've ever seen in person though probably was the last Boeing 307 at Oshkosh.

251 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:28:24am

re: #240 Killgore Trout

It's always sad to see this kind of thing
Image: 1_wa.jpg
'Until I die as a shahid.' Gaza kids during party

Cynthia McKinney was unavailable for comment.

252 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:29:24am

Comptroller slams PM in flotilla report

Despite being aware of risks posed by Gaza-bound flotilla ahead of time, Israel's leaders failed to follow decision-making protocols, state comptroller writes
...
Over two weeks prior to the raid, Ashkenazi warned that a flotilla debacle won't be over quickly and advised Netanyahu to choose a course of action that would prevent the flotilla from embarking on its journey.


"I have no doubt that force will be used," he said. "The people will confront us. We would be deluded to think that if 20 people parachute onto a ship of 400 passengers, they will get applause. The (passengers) will fight."

Along with an uncropped picture of the hostage taking from AFP.

253 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:30:55am

re: #250 William Barnett-Lewis

I've always wanted to fly on a Lockheed airliner but it's always been Douglas/MD or Boeing. Prettiest liner I've ever seen in person though probably was the last Boeing 307 at Oshkosh.

I imagine a ride on a Super Connie would be in the neighborhood of around $500. If you could find one.

254 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:33:58am

re: #253 Gus

I imagine a ride on a Super Connie would be in the neighborhood of around $500. If you could find one.

ZOOM!

255 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:35:26am
256 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:36:19am

North Dakota voters reject religious "liberties" measure; property tax repeal. They also approved a measure to retire the UND's Fighting Sioux mascot.

The religious liberties measure is a prescription for disaster - and a solution in search of a problem. The property tax repeal was likewise a bad idea considering that the tax revenues go to education funding, and while the state is flush with oil/gas tax revenues, that's not a certain thing going forward and legislative adjustments of the tax are appropriate- not the elimination of the tax altogether.

257 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:37:13am

re: #253 Gus

I imagine a ride on a Super Connie would be in the neighborhood of around $500. If you could find one.

You can get a ride on a Super Constellation, a half-way trip fare isn't that bad.

258 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:37:43am

re: #257 Decatur Deb

You can get a ride on a Super Constellation, a half-way trip fare isn't that bad.

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Yeah, no.

259 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:38:14am

re: #258 Varek Raith

Yeah, no.

Why? It's no worse than taking an elevator.

//

260 Interesting Times  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:38:33am

♫ Dimon is a Senator's best friend... ♫

261 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:39:39am

re: #259 Gus

Why? It's no worse than taking an elevator.

//

I'll get on an elevator.
I won't jump out of a perfectly good airplane.
;)

262 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:40:47am
263 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:41:07am

re: #256 lawhawk

North Dakota voters reject religious "liberties" measure; property tax repeal. They also approved a measure to retire the UND's Fighting Sioux mascot.

The religious liberties measure is a prescription for disaster - and a solution in search of a problem. The property tax repeal was likewise a bad idea considering that the tax revenues go to education funding, and while the state is flush with oil/gas tax revenues, that's not a certain thing going forward and legislative adjustments of the tax are appropriate- not the elimination of the tax altogether.

Good the religious liberties thing just seemed like trouble from the get go.

264 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:41:35am

re: #262 Varek Raith

Image: romney%20poor%20buy%20money.jpg

Haha or why don't their Dads send them to Harvard?

265 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:42:33am

re: #259 Gus

Why? It's no worse than taking an elevator.

//

I wouldn't jump out of a perfectly good elevator.

266 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:44:02am

re: #250 William Barnett-Lewis

Most of the Lockheed planes have been retired from US fleets. You'd have to go overseas to find any still around. Not cost effective to fly/maintain, and newer planes are much more efficient (which is why even 707/727/737s are being retired to make way for MD8x, 737x, A3x and newer variations by MDD, Boeing, or Airbus).

267 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:44:42am

Police using YouTube to tell own stories

After a dozen Occupy Minnesota protesters were arrested at a downtown demonstration, the group quickly took to the Internet, posting video that activists said showed police treating them roughly and never warning them to leave.
But Minneapolis police knew warnings had been given. And they had their own video to prove it. So they posted the footage on YouTube, an example of how law enforcement agencies nationwide are embracing online video to cast doubt on false claims and offer their own perspective to the public.

‘‘It certainly frustrates the street officers to see their work being twisted into something that didn’t happen or things being taken out of context,’’ said Minneapolis police Sgt. Bill Palmer. ‘‘Frankly, the use of force, which is what most people want to film, is never going to look good, and the context can easily be twisted.’’
After years of seeing officers’ misconduct captured on video, police departments across the nation are trying to use the medium to their advantage, releasing footage of their own to rebut allegations and to build trust within communities. One department even posted video of an officer punching a woman to show why he was fired.
Weeks before the Occupy demonstration in April, Minneapolis police created their own YouTube channel to give officers a venue to tell their own stories.

Occupy Video
OccupyMN & KSTP attacked by Minneapolis Police violating the US Constitution 4/7/12

Police Video

MPD orders to leave street and OccupyMN failure to do so

268 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:45:27am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

And that would have allowed "creeping Sharia" which some of the same groups detest - something that gets the old irony meter running in the red. Funny how that works.

269 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:45:35am

re: #267 Killgore Trout

It's dead, Jim.

270 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:46:29am

About 15 minutes to go. Watch live: NASA NuSTAR Launches to Space

You'll just see it drop off from the L-1011. Preferably Slim Pickens won't be on top of it. //

271 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:48:49am

NuSTAR Science

NuSTAR will be the first focussing high energy X-ray satellite in orbit, providing more than two orders of magnitude improvement in sensitivity as compared to previous high energy missions. The primary science goals of NuSTAR are broad, and include:

• Conducting a survey of black holes
• Mapping young supernovae explosions
• Studying nature's most powerful cosmic accelerators
• Identifying high energy sources in our Galaxy


The unprecedented sensitivy of NuSTAR will also be leveraged at a variety of additional programs:

Other science with NuSTAR

272 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:51:21am

re: #271 Gus

NuSTAR Science

Shiny.

273 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:53:08am

re: #268 lawhawk

And that would have allowed "creeping Sharia" which some of the same groups detest - something that gets the old irony meter running in the red. Funny how that works.

Somehow I doubt that crossed their minds. Kind of like when Newt Gingrich argues secularization will do the same. Because secular law leads to religious based law. Makes perfect sense*
* If you're trying to scare people like Newt was.

274 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:56:14am

Great. The feed died.

275 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:57:50am
276 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:58:35am

re: #274 Gus

Great. The feed died.

[Link: www.nasa.gov...]

277 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:00:02am

re: #276 Varek Raith

[Link: www.nasa.gov...]

Was about to post that but my connection sucks. Went back up in the mean time.

278 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:01:49am

ZOOM!

279 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:01:58am

Off it goes! Fin sweep, drop and a flash of the rocket engines. Past max. Q already.

280 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:05:53am

11,400mph.

281 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:07:27am

A blue man ‘dupe’: Parent panic at 32G ‘progressive’ school

The Blue School is one big play date in desperate need of adult supervision.

Parents are yanking their kids out of the “progressive,” $32,000 per-year private school founded by the Blue Man Group — which has no books and no tests — because their kids are barely learning to read, The Post has learned.

One mother, who is yanking her son at the end of the school year, complained that the school is “unstructured.”

“It’s true,” she said when asked if her kid was struggling to read.

In all, she added, four of her son’s first-grade classmates are leaving the Financial District institution.

Another parent who dropped her first-grade son off yesterday said he’s not coming back next year — because he’s got nothing to do.

“When a 6-year-old says they’re bored, there’s a problem,” the mother said. “I think they bit off more than they can chew.”

Other moms have taken to a popular message board to vent.

“It’s all fun and games until you realize your second-grader can’t read,” a parent wrote on Urbanbaby.com.

And parent Marina Brolin added, “I think they don’t push [reading] as much.”

282 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:09:22am

re: #266 lawhawk

Most of the Lockheed planes have been retired from US fleets. You'd have to go overseas to find any still around. Not cost effective to fly/maintain, and newer planes are much more efficient (which is why even 707/727/737s are being retired to make way for MD8x, 737x, A3x and newer variations by MDD, Boeing, or Airbus).

Oh, I understand all that quite well.

It's just that I can remember growing up on the farm just outside of Eau Claire WI in the late sixties and watching North Central DC-3's heading into the local airport. Old airliners and steam locomotives are major nostalgia makers for me.

283 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:10:13am

30 seconds until more zoom!

284 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:11:44am

In orbit.

285 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:12:12am

re: #281 NJDhockeyfan

A blue man ‘dupe’: Parent panic at 32G ‘progressive’ school

lol. Who would have thought a school started by mimes would suck?

286 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:14:45am

Payload separation complete.

287 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:14:49am

re: #284 Varek Raith

In orbit.

Payload sep!

288 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:15:04am
289 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:15:38am

NuStar signal acquired.
SCIENCE!

290 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:17:00am

Solar panels being deployed.

291 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:19:37am

re: #285 Killgore Trout

lol. Who would have thought a school started by mimes would suck?

They may not be able to read but they can play a piece of PVC pipe better than any other students from the area schools.

292 darthstar  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:21:37am

re: #291 NJDhockeyfan

Hey, did you catch game 6 the other night? What happened in the last five minutes? Your goalie turn into a permeable mist? That was fucking brutal. Still, a good season overall for you.

293 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:21:59am

re: #285 Killgore Trout

Here's their official website. HuffPo did a critique/review of the school and its curriculum as did CNN.

Curiously, neither addressed any issue about reading proficiency.

If that's the case, then the school has some serious deficiencies in key areas - being able to read/write is critical to future educational success and job opportunities/endeavors.

294 darthstar  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:22:20am

re: #289 Varek Raith

NuStar signal acquired.
SCIENCE!

Nice of Jesus to go up there and flip the switch.

295 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:22:58am

re: #292 darthstar

Brutal doesn't begin to explain it - the major penalty was the backbreaker and the Kings simply outmanned and outgunned the Devils. Damn 'em.

A great season though - highlighted by the fact that the Devils knocked out the Rangers. Woo!

296 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:25:26am

re: #295 lawhawk

Brutal doesn't begin to explain it - the major penalty was the backbreaker and the Kings simply outmanned and outgunned the Devils. Damn 'em.

A great season though - highlighted by the fact that the Devils knocked out the Rangers. Woo!

Boo Kings, Yay Caps!

297 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:25:51am

re: #292 darthstar

Hey, did you catch game 6 the other night? What happened in the last five minutes? Your goalie turn into a permeable mist? That was fucking brutal. Still, a good season overall for you.

The boarding penalty in the 1st period by Steve Bernier was a stupid move in his part. It went downhill from there.

298 erik_t  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:26:02am

re: #288 Gus

Made in California

Curiously, Orbital never counts in the Exciting New Wave of Private Space. I've never really figured out why.

299 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:28:39am

re: #298 erik_t

Curiously, Orbital never counts in the Exciting New Wave of Private Space. I've never really figured out why.

Nor I. Far more interesting to me than SpaceX but what do I know?

300 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:29:00am

re: #298 erik_t

Curiously, Orbital never counts in the Exciting New Wave of Private Space. I've never really figured out why.

Perhaps because they're been around since 1982. Maybe a name change would help: OrbitalX. Kidding. It's fine like this.

301 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:30:14am

'Hezbollah may move Syrian arms to Lebanon'

Concern is mounting in Israel over the possibility that Hezbollah will try to move sophisticated weaponry, including Scud missiles, from Syria to Lebanon to protect them in the event of Syrian President Bashar Assad’s downfall.

The concern stems from reports that Assad might be losing control over certain military capabilities including an air defense base which was captured by rebels earlier this week.

Syria is believed to have allocated a number of Scud D missiles – the most advanced missile in its arsenal – to Hezbollah already in 2010 but they have been stored in bases in Syria.

...Israel’s concern also focuses on the possibility that Syria’s arsenal of chemical weapons will fall into rogue hands. The concern over the stability of Syria’s chemical arsenal comes at a time when only about 60 percent of Israelis are in possession of gas masks. The IDF is currently lacking NIS 1.2 billion to complete the production and distribution of gas masks to the rest of the public.

Hezbollah may get SCUDs and chemical weapons from Syria? What could possible go wrong?

302 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:33:16am

re: #281 NJDhockeyfan

A blue man ‘dupe’: Parent panic at 32G ‘progressive’ school

Sounds like an attempt to do Waldorf without, you know, the training and the underlying philosophy and stuff.

303 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:33:20am

Video of launch:

Launch of NuSTAR

The Nuclear Spectroscopic Telescope Array begins its mission using high-energy x-rays to uncover some of the most powerful structures in the universe.

304 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:34:00am

[moonbat]Nuclear?!?!?!?11ty[/moonbat]

//

305 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:34:58am

re: #304 Gus

[moonbat]Nuclear?!?!?!?11ty[/moonbat]

//

WMD!
DRONES!
BILDEWHATSITS!!!!

306 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:36:07am

And when NuStar calls OnStar due to a collision with a micrometeorite, who is going to go do the maintenance work?

307 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:36:49am

re: #305 Varek Raith

WMD!
DRONES!
BILDEWHATSITS!!!

They lie! It's not a satellite for studying black holes! It will be used to spy on Americans and dissidents around the world!!11ty It's just a highly advanced NUCLEAR DRONE to help keep AIPAC and the Juice in power!!11ty

308 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:37:16am

re: #306 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

And when NuStar calls OnStar due to a collision with a micrometeorite, who is going to go do the maintenance work?

I nominate you.
Congrats!
Here's a ski mask.
It's cold up there!

309 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:37:46am

re: #308 Varek Raith

I nominate you.
Congrats!
Here's a ski mask.
It's cold up there!

Don't forget the S.C.U.B.A.

310 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:40:56am

re: #309 Gus

Don't forget the S.C.U.B.A.

That chart you posted yesterday was hilarious.

311 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:41:02am

heh.

Anyone's FO need a suit of armor?

[Link: www.jeffdeboer.com...]

312 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:42:05am

re: #310 Varek Raith

That chart you posted yesterday was hilarious.

The Bilderberg chart?

313 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:42:15am

re: #312 Gus

The Bilderberg chart?

Yes.

314 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:43:12am

re: #301 NJDhockeyfan

'Hezbollah may move Syrian arms to Lebanon'

Hezbollah may get SCUDs and chemical weapons from Syria? What could possible go wrong?

IIUC, the SCUDS are already theirs, they just want to get them out of harm's way.

As to the chemicals and 'what could possibly go wrong', I think calculating all the ways Syria and its fallout could get worse and not better is almost impossible at this point.

315 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:44:47am

re: #313 Varek Raith

Yes.

Yeah. Those Bilderberg nuts never give up. It's like the JFK assassination and UFOs.

316 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:46:52am

Ice cream van dispute in Blackburn investigated by police

An altercation between two rival ice cream sellers in a street in Blackburn is being investigated by Lancashire Police.

The dispute on Palatine Road in front of children buying ice creams on 2 June at about 18:00 BST was filmed and uploaded on YouTube. It has been viewed more than 400,000 times.

Zeheer Ramzan from Halifax, who trades as Mr Yummy, is seen breaking a window in his rival's van. The other ice cream seller Mohammed Mulla, aka Mr Whippy, from Blackburn then drives into the back of the other van.

Blackburn with Darwen Council, who issues licences for street trading, have also confirmed they are investigating the incident.

Here is the video...

751,000+ views so far

317 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:49:40am

re: #316 NJDhockeyfan

Ice cream van dispute in Blackburn investigated by police

Here is the video...

[Embedded content] 751,000+ views so far

319 Kragar  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:51:34am
320 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:52:15am

re: #316 NJDhockeyfan

Ice cream van dispute in Blackburn investigated by police

Here is the video...

[Embedded content] 751,000+ views so far

My question is this: if you were a parent living in this neighborhood, would you subsequently allow your child to buy from either Mr. Yummy or Mr. Whippy, or would you buy your own ice cream at Tescos, thereby avoiding the possibility that the jolly ice cream men are going to come back to shoot it out?

Also: these guys should have been characters in Roddy Doyle's "The Van".

321 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:56:53am

I loved this op-ed in today's Times

"I'm a Mormon, Not a Christian"

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Finally! A devout LDS who doesn't beat around the bush about this.

The efforts of some Mormons to appear "Christian" seems as disingenuous to me as "Jews for Jesus" groups that want to appear Jewish. It's something else, and should be treated as such.

322 Kragar  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 10:01:33am

Belief In God Plummets Among Youth (CHART)

Young Americans are abandoning God in droves.

A new survey by the Pew Research Center finds that belief in the existence of God has dropped 15 points in the last five years among Americans 30 and under.

Pew, which has been studying the trend for 25 years, finds that just 68 percent of millennials in 2012 agree with the statement “I never doubt the existence of God.” That’s down from 76 percent in 2009 and 83 percent in 2007.

Among other generations, belief in God is high and has seen few changes over the last few decades. Between 81 and 89 percent of older generations say they never doubt the existence of God, although the older the generation, the more likely they are to believe in God.

323 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 10:03:57am

re: #321 ReamWorks SKG

I loved this op-ed in today's Times

"I'm a Mormon, Not a Christian"

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Finally! A devout LDS who doesn't beat around the bush about this.

The efforts of some Mormons to appear "Christian" seems as disingenuous to me as "Jews for Jesus" groups that want to appear Jewish. It's something else, and should be treated as such.

Well, more precisely, they're not consubstantialists, if I follow his explanation correctly.

324 darthstar  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 10:12:58am

re: #312 Gus

The Bilderberg chart?

That's sweet...just facebooked it.

325 Gus  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 10:16:03am

Here's this to counter the Weekly Standard's slander of the Democratic Party:

Congressional Candidate Charles Barron Slammed
Charles Barron: not 'the heart and soul of the Democratic Party.'

While the Weekly Standard attempts to slander the Democratic Party by alluding that Charles Brown represents “The heart and soul of the Democratic party?” Democrats gather to oppose his candidacy.

326 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 10:18:57am

re: #325 Gus

Here's this to counter the Weekly Standard's slander of the Democratic Party:

Congressional Candidate Charles Barron Slammed
Charles Barron: not 'the heart and soul of the Democratic Party.'

The WS is actually calling this guy the heart and soul of the GOP? What a bunch of tools they are. This guy isn't even a nominee. He sucks and he is a bigot but to call him the heart and soul of the party stinks to high heaven and the hacks at WS know that.

327 b_sharp  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 10:30:58am
328 Mattand  Wed, Jun 13, 2012 10:33:02am

re: #285 Killgore Trout

lol. Who would have thought a school started by mimes would suck?

On the bright side, they weren't being taught creationism is science.


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