Banjo-meister Béla Fleck jams with Ruth, the only female kalimba virtuoso in Uganda. Incredible music from the documentary film about Béla’s album featuring African musicians, Throw Down Your Heart, Tales From the Acoustic Planet.
Youtube VideoHere’s an Amazon sampler for the rest of this unique album:
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wrenchwench Sun, Jun 24, 2012 6:41:24pm |
A Liberal Infiltrates a GOP Town Hall Full of Paranoid Fast and Furious Propaganda politicususa.com/fast-furious-t... twitpic.com/a07q90 #fastandfurious— elvisgrace (@elvisgrace) June 25, 2012
Possibly Pageworthy story at the link in the tweet. I'm too tired. I washed my cats today.
Image: funny-pictures-kitten-did-not-like-his-bath.jpg
Later, lizards.
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bratwurst Sun, Jun 24, 2012 6:52:16pm |
Some good news...Wikipedia is going to stand up to bullies:
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Kragar Sun, Jun 24, 2012 7:02:29pm |
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 24, 2012 7:30:04pm |
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Kragar Sun, Jun 24, 2012 7:30:44pm |
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bratwurst Sun, Jun 24, 2012 7:42:02pm |
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 24, 2012 7:47:42pm |
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 24, 2012 7:51:25pm |
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Kragar Sun, Jun 24, 2012 7:53:52pm |
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Kragar Sun, Jun 24, 2012 7:58:46pm |
Just wrapped up 2 squads of Thunderwolf cavalry and have enough extra bits I can totally pimp out a full squad of Skyclaws. Rockin'.
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blueraven Sun, Jun 24, 2012 8:11:51pm |
Bela Fleck...you could not ask for a better goodwill ambassador for America.
You are right Charles, this did make me smile. Great video!
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jun 24, 2012 8:20:33pm |
The Transformation Is Complete - Little Green Douche is now shilling for the Islamaists #sad #sick @Lizardoid @Atlasshrugs— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) June 25, 2012
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Kragar Sun, Jun 24, 2012 8:21:58pm |
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jun 24, 2012 8:22:18pm |
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jaunte Sun, Jun 24, 2012 8:27:21pm |
re: #14 Kragar
Creeping Sharia is more convoluted than anyone realized.
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Kragar Sun, Jun 24, 2012 8:27:36pm |
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Gus Sun, Jun 24, 2012 8:34:26pm |
Speaking of the Dumbest Man on the Internet and all things dumb...
Louisiana Schools Teach That ‘Existence’ Of Loch Ness Monster Proves Creationism
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Kragar Sun, Jun 24, 2012 8:37:31pm |
re: #19 Gus
Speaking of the Dumbest Man on the Internet and all things dumb...
Louisiana Schools Teach That ‘Existence’ Of Loch Ness Monster Proves Creationism
Sasquatch proves that Jesus died for our sins.
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Gus Sun, Jun 24, 2012 8:42:15pm |
One ACE textbook – Biology 1099, Accelerated Christian Education Inc – reads: “Are dinosaurs alive today? Scientists are becoming more convinced of their existence. Have you heard of the ‘Loch Ness Monster’ in Scotland? ‘Nessie’ for short has been recorded on sonar from a small submarine, described by eyewitnesses, and photographed by others. Nessie appears to be a plesiosaur.” -- Scotland Herald
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Gus Sun, Jun 24, 2012 8:46:31pm |
Examples from A Beka Book and Bob Jones University Press Curricula
This video is an excerpt from a 35-minute documentary "School Choice: Taxpayer Funded Creationism, Bigotry, and Bias," produced by Rachel Tabachnick and Bruce Wilson. The full length video is about the funding of private schools in Pennsylvania through the corporate tax credit program (EITC).
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Kragar Sun, Jun 24, 2012 8:50:48pm |
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Gus Sun, Jun 24, 2012 9:00:04pm |
"To help them endure the difficulties of slavery, God gave Christian slaves the ability to combine the African heritage of song with the dignity of Christian praise. Through the Negro spiritual, the slaves developed the patience to wait on the Lord and discovered that the truest freedom is from the bondage of sin. By first giving them their spiritual freedom, God prepared the slaves for their coming physical freedom. "
-- Michael R. Lowman, George Thompson, and Kurt Grussendorf, United States History: Heritage of Freedom, 2nd ed. (Pensacola, FL: A Beka Book, 1996), p. 219.
More examples here.
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Kragar Sun, Jun 24, 2012 9:02:08pm |
re: #31 Gus
-- Michael R. Lowman, George Thompson, and Kurt Grussendorf, United States History: Heritage of Freedom, 2nd ed. (Pensacola, FL: A Beka Book, 1996), p. 219.
More examples here.
Know what might have worked better?
Not having Christians enslave them for generations and make up bullshit about how they found Jesus because of it.
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Gus Sun, Jun 24, 2012 9:07:06pm |
re: #32 Kragar
Know what might have worked better?
Not having Christians enslave them for generations and make up bullshit about how they found Jesus because of it.
Only the best school vouchers can buy.
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Kragar Sun, Jun 24, 2012 9:08:47pm |
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SpaceJesus Sun, Jun 24, 2012 9:21:17pm |
anybody thinking the supremes will hand down any rulings this week?
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Kragar Sun, Jun 24, 2012 9:24:36pm |
re: #36 SpaceJesus
anybody thinking the supremes will hand down any rulings this week?
Pretty sure someone thinks that.
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b_Snark Sun, Jun 24, 2012 9:31:31pm |
re: #36 SpaceJesus
anybody thinking the supremes will hand down any rulings this week?
No. They haven't been the same since Dianna Ross left.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 24, 2012 9:43:23pm |
re: #36 SpaceJesus
anybody thinking the supremes will hand down any rulings this week?
Think it's pretty much a given. Now, will they will be major rulings? That remains to be seen.
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Mich-again Sun, Jun 24, 2012 9:46:38pm |
re: #36 SpaceJesus
anybody thinking the supremes will hand down any rulings this week?
I see Ginsburg and Scalia in clash of opinions for a mixed ruling..
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Kragar Sun, Jun 24, 2012 9:46:56pm |
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SpaceJesus Sun, Jun 24, 2012 10:17:38pm |
re: #40 Mich-again
Maybe. Personally, I can't wait to see all of them look like hypocrites regarding the scope of the Commerce Clause.
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freetoken Sun, Jun 24, 2012 10:46:09pm |
Reading through some of the abstracts at the Society for Molecular Biology & Evolution 2012 meeting it is clear that a great deal of work has been done to unravel human evolution via genetic analysis, with growing evidence of more ancient separation of groups of humans.
Somehow, Adam and Eve didn't make it on the menu of choices. The Southern Methodists, who last week declared a literal, specifically created Adam and Eve to be infallibly true, aren't going to be pleased.
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Four More Tears Sun, Jun 24, 2012 10:52:28pm |
re: #43 freetoken
Reading through some of the abstracts at the Society for Molecular Biology & Evolution 2012 meeting it is clear that a great deal of work has been done to unravel human evolution via genetic analysis, with growing evidence of more ancient separation of groups of humans.
Somehow, Adam and Eve didn't make it on the menu of choices. The Southern Methodists, who last week declared a literal, specifically created Adam and Eve to be infallibly true, aren't going to be pleased.
Oh I'm sure they'll get right on top of rewriting their dogma to reflect newly discovered facts.
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Kragar Sun, Jun 24, 2012 10:59:27pm |
re: #44 It's a cookbook!
Oh I'm sure they'll get right on top of rewriting their dogma to reflect newly discovered facts.
You see, science is wrong because its constantly being revised, but the bible has to be accurate because its never changed since God handed it down.
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Four More Tears Sun, Jun 24, 2012 11:00:07pm |
re: #45 Kragar
You see, science is wrong because its constantly being revised, but the bible has to be accurate because its never changed since God handed it down.
If scientists were so smart they'd get it right the first time.
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freetoken Sun, Jun 24, 2012 11:12:00pm |
This poster may be of interest:
We have increased the sequence coverage of the previously published genome of an archaic human from Denisova cave in southern Siberia to approximately 30-fold coverage. This high-coverage genome provides the opportunity to identify the complete set of sequence changes that have risen to high frequency or fixation in modern humans since the split from the common ancestor with Denisovans. These recent changes may set anatomically modern humans apart from other extinct hominin forms.
Here we present an updated catalog of all single nucleotide changes (SNCs) and insertion/deletion events (InDels) now identified using the high-coverage genome data. Using variation data for modern humans we are able to identify sites where the Denisova genome sequence is ancestral while the derived allele is either fixed or at high frequency (>90%) in modern human populations. We can confidently identify 258 fixed and 393 high-frequency amino acid substitutions in protein-coding genes. A further set of nucleotide changes and InDels in 3’ and 5’ UTRs, splice sites, miRNAs and motif patterns in regulatory regions were also identified. An analysis of the chemical impact of specific amino acid changes, as well as an assessment of evolutionary conservation allows us to prioritize those substitutions that might have the largest phenotypic effect. This catalog is a resource for researchers wishing to determine those genome sequence changes that have occurred recently on the human lineage. Analyses are underway to prioritize particularly interesting candidates for functional studies.
Summarizing: Paabo and his colleagues have been able to reconstruct enough of the DNA from the Denisova cave bones to allow geneticists to determine, of those modern humans (namely, many people in SE Asia) who have alleles traced back to the Denisova-type humans, which alleles have remained fixed and which ones have subsequently changed in the population.
Another interesting poster:
High-coverage population genomics of diverse African hunter-gatherers
In addition to their distinctive subsistence patterns, African hunter-gatherers belong to some of the most genetically diverse populations on Earth. To infer demographic history and detect signatures of natural selection, we sequenced the whole genomes of five individuals in each of three geographically and linguistically diverse African hunter-gatherer populations at >60x coverage. In these 15 genomes we identify 13.4 million variants, many of which are novel, substantially increasing the set of known human variation. These variants result in allele frequency distributions that are free of SNP ascertainment bias. This genetic data is used to infer population divergence times and demographic history (including population bottlenecks and inbreeding). We find that natural selection continues to shape the genomes of hunter-gatherers, and that deleterious genetic variation is found at similar levels for hunter-gatherers and African populations with agricultural or pastoral subsistence patterns. In addition, the genomes of each hunter-gatherer population contain unique signatures of local adaptation. These highly-divergent genomic regions include genes involved in immunity, metabolism, olfactory and taste perception, reproduction, and wound healing.
Evolutionary history recorded in the DNA.
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freetoken Sun, Jun 24, 2012 11:34:03pm |
Here's another good one:
A genomewide map of Neandertal ancestry in modern humans
Analysis of the genomes of archaic hominins, such as Neandertals and Denisovans, has revealed that these groups have contributed to the genetic variation of modern human populations. Yet, we know little about how these ancient mixtures have shaped the genetic structure of human populations and even less about their impact on human evolution.
To answer these questions systematically, we need a map of archaic ancestry i.e., a map that labels whether each
region of an individual genome is descended from these archaics. Building such a map is technically challenging because of the antiquity of these gene flow events. We have identified signatures based on patterns of variation at single SNPs as well as haplotypes that are informative of ancient gene flow.We propose a principled method based on the statistical framework of Conditional Random Fields (CRFs) that
integrates these patterns leading to highly accurate predictions. We applied our method to polymorphism data in European and East Asian individuals from the 1000 genomes project, in conjunction with the draft sequence of the Neandertal genome, to obtain the first genomewide map of Neandertal ancestry. Analysis of this map reveals several findings:1. We identify around 35,000 Neandertal-derived alleles in Europeans and 21,000 in East Asians.
2. The map allows us to identify Neandertal alleles that have been the target of selection since introgression. We identified over 100 regions in which the frequency of Neandertal ancestry is extremely unlikely under a model of neutral evolution. The highest frequency region on chromosome 4 has a frequency of Neandertal ancestry of about 85% in Europe and overlaps CLOCK, a key gene in Circadian function in mammals. The high frequency, Neandertal-derived variant is specific to Europeans; it is not very common in East Asians. This gene has been found in other selection scans in Eurasian populations, but has never before been linked to Neandertal gene flow.
3. Several of the Neandertal-derived alleles identified in 1) above are found in the >6,000 SNPs associated with common diseases listed in the NHGRI catalog. These Neandertal derived variants are found to be risk variants associated with obesity and protective variants against breast cancer.
4. We also investigate the possibility of using this map to reconstruct the genome of the introgressing Neandertal. Using the ancestries in Europe and East Asia, we can reconstruct about 600 Mb which we expect to increase with larger samples and additional populations.
Human populations vary.
One reason I keep harping on not using "Neanderthal" as a pejorative is because Neanderthals were indeed "human", and are in the ancestry of most of us with European or East Asian ancestry.
Many of us carry alleles from Neanderthal populations which are probably expressed in some manner during our lifetime.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Jun 24, 2012 11:34:07pm |
re: #45 Kragar
You see, science is wrong because its constantly being revised, but the bible has to be accurate because its never changed since God handed it down.
Evolution also indicates that God was wrong and didn't get creatures right the first time he created them. Why do you hate God?
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freetoken Sun, Jun 24, 2012 11:45:58pm |
A couple of days ago I mentioned the havoc that David Barton's Wallbuilders had wrought upon Alabama Public Television.
Today a followup story, an opinion piece of Al.com:
Alabama Public Television should be neutral turf
[...]
On June 12, the Alabama Educational Television Commission slipped into executive session and fired Alabama Public Television executive director Allan Pizzato and CFO Pauline Howland.
It was the shot heard round the public broadcasting world. Seven members of other boards that help operate APT resigned, and charges flew that the ax was ideologically wielded by right-wing cultural cleansers.
[...]
Not long after his appointment by Gov. Robert Bentley, Herring questioned APT's employee-developed "Mission, Vision and Values" statement, which said APT is strengthened by diversity that includes "disability, religious belief, age, culture, sexual orientation, physicality, education, and socioeconomic status."
It had to go. Over Pizzato's objection.
[....]
Also on the agenda before the firing -- and discussed previously -- was Herring's push for more "balanced programming," including shows about creationism.
Herring said last week he wanted balance between creationism and evolution for practical reasons, so as not to drive away Alabama viewers.
The Opelika chiropractor said he did have questions about evolution, based on his experience in the health field. An example he cited was this: "DNA prevents evolution," he said.
Herring has also sought to have APT air programming by the controversial conservative historian David Barton, whose Texas-based group argues that America was forged in a crucible of Christianity.
[...]
And there you have it. The governor appoints a creationist to the APT executive board. Said creationist, a follower of Barton, replaces a statement about APT emphasize diversity with a statement saying APT ought to work with Homeland Security (read the parts of the quote I cut), and said appointee (Herring) pushes for creationism on APT.
Yes, there is a culture war going on.
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Eventual Carrion Sun, Jun 24, 2012 11:52:00pm |
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Kragar Sun, Jun 24, 2012 11:53:48pm |
re: #49 Expand Your Ground
Evolution also indicates that God was wrong and didn't get creatures right the first time he created them. Why do you hate God?
Puberty.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Jun 24, 2012 11:57:52pm |
Why did god create us as children, who poo in their pants and get pimples and gangly limbs at puberty?
Why could he not create us a fully-formed individuals, ready to go out and prove our worth in the compteitive marketplace, where, as we all know, our material wealth is indicative of our inner grace?
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Kragar Mon, Jun 25, 2012 12:10:54am |
re: #53 Expand Your Ground
Why did god create us as children, who poo in their pants and get pimples and gangly limbs at puberty?
Why could he not create us a fully-formed individuals, ready to go out and prove our worth in the compteitive marketplace, where, as we all know, our material wealth is indicative of our inner grace?
God took the credit from the Great Old Ones.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 25, 2012 12:50:40am |
Come to think of it, given the choice between an old fart sitting in judgement of every act based on a really shitty set of arbitrary rules and giant space squids who think of humankind as less than amoeba, I'll go with the giant space squids.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jun 25, 2012 2:16:07am |
re: #55 Kragar
Come to think of it, given the choice between an old fart sitting in judgement of every act based on a really shitty set of arbitrary rules and giant space squids who think of humankind as less than amoeba, I'll go with the giant space squids.
If you insist on taking the Bible as the true, literal and unchanging Word of God, dictated by the Holy Spirit and merely written down by human hands, then you have no choice but to reject most of science and embrace a wealth of archaic, confusing and contradictory mythology and superstition.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Jun 25, 2012 3:53:49am |
Good morning Lizards!
Morning tea and reading comments before heading to work.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 4:14:38am |
California bill would sield [sic] churches from performing gay marriage ceremonies
[...]
A bill making its way through the Legislature would protect churches' nonprofit status if clergy members refuse to perform gay marriages. Senate Bill 1140 by Sen. Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, also states that marriage is a civil contract, not a religious one.
"Whether or not one believes that all Californians should have equal marriage rights or should be treated equally under the law, I think we can all agree that protecting religious freedom is important," Leno said.
[...]
Not all churches are on board.
The Rev. Rick Schlosser, executive director of the California Council of Churches, said some churches in his organization oppose the bill because of its implications.
"Their objective is they oppose marriage equality and are afraid this will take away one of their major arguments," Schlosser said.
Religious groups have taken offense to the part of SB 1140 that says marriage is a civil contract, not a religious one.
"It doesn't do what it is reported to do, which is to protect religion, and it creates confusion by introducing a new definition of marriage," said Bill May, president of Catholics for the Common Good.
[...]
There is just no pleasing some people. In this case, those who think homosexuality is the fast lane to damnation will never, ever accept gay marriage under any circumstance.
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Summer Seale Mon, Jun 25, 2012 4:30:44am |
re: #2 bratwurst
Some good news...Wikipedia is going to stand up to bullies:
It's a great article, but it's over three years old.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Jun 25, 2012 4:38:20am |
re: #63 freetoken
California bill would sield [sic] churches from performing gay marriage ceremonies
There is just no pleasing some people. In this case, those who think homosexuality is the fast lane to damnation will never, ever accept gay marriage under any circumstance.
Is there something in the California laws regarding marriage (the civil aspects thereof) that require the involvement of a church? If there aren't, why is a bill such as this needed? If there are, the better solution would be to strip out those requirements rather than granting churches some right of refusal.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 4:42:34am |
re: #66 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Is there something in the California laws regarding marriage (the civil aspects thereof) that require the involvement of a church? If there aren't, why is a bill such as this needed? If there are, the better solution would be to strip out those requirements rather than granting churches some right of refusal.
Aren't there enough churches in California that would be very happy to perform these ceremonies? Why would there even be a need to nuisance-sue congregations that don't perform same-sex marriage? Just like the couple who sued the photographer for not wanting to do their wedding. I am sure they could have found other photographers who would be thrilled to get the business.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 4:54:55am |
re: #66 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Is there something in the California laws regarding marriage (the civil aspects thereof) that require the involvement of a church?
No. At least, one can, to the best of my knowledge, be officially married by any civil authority.
It is, after all, the role of being an official witness which is important. Back in my home state "common law" marriages were not uncommon. I don't know if California still recognizes such or not, but I suspect that the law these days require an official witness for a marriage.
However, the bit in that story about the California constitution defining marriage between one man and one women I'm pretty sure was put there to preclude polygamy.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 4:55:45am |
re: #67 Learned Mother of Zion
There just is no pleasing some people.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:01:43am |
Here's the text as it now stands:
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS
SEC. 7.5. Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or
recognized in California.
That of course is the current version. The hope of many is to overturn that.
The court case that threw out Prop 8. I have not followed the ensuing legal battle.
I should have wrote that the original concern about marriage in California was over polygamy, and I confused it with the wording of the later amendment.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:21:27am |
California law already is clear that marriage is a "civil contract":
CALIFORNIA CODES
FAMILY.CODE
SECTION 300-310
300. (a) Marriage is a personal relation arising out of a civil contract between a man and a woman, to which the consent of the parties capable of making that contract is necessary. Consent alone does not constitute marriage. Consent must be followed by the issuance of a license and solemnization as authorized by this division, except as provided by Section 425 and Part 4 (commencing
with Section 500).(b) For purposes of this part, the document issued by the county clerk is a marriage license until it is registered with the county recorder, at which time the license becomes a marriage certificate.
[...]
307. This division, so far as it relates to the solemnizing of
marriage, is not applicable to members of a particular religious
society or denomination not having clergy for the purpose of
solemnizing marriage or entering the marriage relation, if all of the following requirements are met:
(a) The parties to the marriage sign and endorse on the form
prescribed by the State Department of Public Health, showing all of the following:
(1) The fact, time, and place of entering into the marriage.
(2) The printed names, signatures, and mailing addresses of two witnesses to the ceremony.
(3) The religious society or denomination of the parties to the
marriage, and that the marriage was entered into in accordance with the rules and customs of that religious society or denomination. The statement of the parties to the marriage that the marriage was entered into in accordance with the rules and customs of the religious society or denomination is conclusively presumed to be true.
(b) The License and Certificate of Non-Clergy Marriage, endorsed pursuant to subdivision (a), is returned to the county recorder of the county in which the license was issued within 10 days after the ceremony.[...]
308.5. Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or
recognized in California.[...]
So, the first section declares that marriage is a civil contract.
Section 307 allows for non-clergy to solemnize the marriage.
Section 308.5, and most likely similar laws in other States, is an example why the USSC will eventually have to give a ruling recognizing gay unions nationwide, as some states will allow them and others won't recognize it.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:33:10am |
re: #71 freetoken
So, the first section declares that marriage is a civil contract.
It also states "between a man and a woman" so that phrase would also have to be struck/ amended as well as Section 308.5
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:35:59am |
re: #50 freetoken
A couple of days ago I mentioned the havoc that David Barton's Wallbuilders had wrought upon Alabama Public Television.
Today a followup story, an opinion piece of Al.com:
Alabama Public Television should be neutral turf
And there you have it. The governor appoints a creationist to the APT executive board. Said creationist, a follower of Barton, replaces a statement about APT emphasize diversity with a statement saying APT ought to work with Homeland Security (read the parts of the quote I cut), and said appointee (Herring) pushes for creationism on APT.
Yes, there is a culture war going on.
APT is neutral in all important aspects--it has never taken a position on the Ironbowl.
(And no, education is not a neutral process. It assumes one person knows something, and that another does not.)
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:40:04am |
re: #73 Decatur Deb
It assumes one person knows something, and that another does not
I did not know that!!!
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:41:20am |
re: #73 Decatur Deb
it has never taken a position on the Ironbowl.
UNPOSSIBLE
NOBODY in Alabama doesn't have a position on the Ironbowl
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:42:51am |
One of the trippiest hip-hop songs ever written.
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:44:11am |
re: #67 Learned Mother of Zion
But does this really happen, these kind of lawsuits, in any significant numbers? I wouldn't think so.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:46:35am |
re: #77 Obdicut
But does this really happen, these kind of lawsuits, in any significant numbers? I wouldn't think so.
I just remember the case of the gay couple who sued the photographer. Stupid on so many levels.
1. Photographer could have just said "I am already busy for that date" instead of telling gay couple "I will not photograph your perversion!"
2. Gay couple could have found a friendly photographer.
Stupid cakes all around.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:47:31am |
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:49:16am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:50:11am |
re: #80 Decatur Deb
Started and stayed. Will resume after the start of the season.
Is it there in/ around Opilaka-Auburn or did he get a change of venue (last I recall he was asking for one)
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:52:03am |
Morning Lizardim from the clear and warm wild north country. Looks like the torrential rains have subsided, welcome news for our more northern inhabitants as they begin to repair the damage. The feline overlords were in a tizzy, as the Mrs. Fish was hosting a wedding shower and there were numerous guests about. Of course, after it was all over, we were sure to go down to the basement and spend some time pacifying them. What's new out there on the front lines?
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:53:22am |
re: #81 sattv4u2
Is it there in/ around Opilaka-Auburn or did he get a change of venue (last I recall he was asking for one)
Judge says just to be careful at jury selection.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:54:58am |
re: #82 thedopefishlives
Woke up (way too early) in the the throes of a hay fever attack only to find out I had no pills left in the house
Thank God there's a QT (Quick Trip gas station/ convenience store) that about 10 minutes away
Drove there sneezing the entire time
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:56:24am |
re: #83 Decatur Deb
Judge says just to be careful at jury selection.
(prosecutors)
"your honor, I would like to submit for my panel the offensive and defensive lines of the Auburn Tigers!"
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:01:18am |
re: #85 sattv4u2
(prosecutors)
"your honor, I would like to submit for my panel the offensive and defensive lines of the Auburn Tigers!"
I'd be a good jury foreman--send the perp, his lawyer, and the prosecutor off to pick tomatoes for the summer.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:02:44am |
[Link: www.seattlepi.com...]
Man throws wife from car on I-90, attacks trooper
So when I saw the headline I figure the guy attacked the trooper as the cop was trying to take him into custody
But NO!!!!
the husband managed to break out the patrol car window. He then got out of the car and attacked the trooper who had pulled him over, the State Patrol reported. There was a scuffle and the suspect finally was subdued and taken into custody.
I can see him busting out the window (kicking his feet against it numerous times) but how does he get out and attack the trooper? Wasn't he cuffed??
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:02:59am |
Off to walk the dog between bursts of Debby.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:03:33am |
re: #86 Decatur Deb
I'd be a good jury foreman--send the perp, his lawyer, and the prosecutor off to pick tomatoes for the summer.
Better still
Make him camp out at Toomers Corner 24/7 and nurse the tree(s) back to health
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:33:08am |
Egypt's Mohamed Morsi wants to renew ties with Iran
"We must restore normal relations with Iran based on shared interests, and expand areas of political coordination and economic cooperation because this will create a balance of pressure in the region," Morsi was quoted as saying in a transcript of the interview.
Fars said it had spoken to Morsi a few hours before Sunday's announcement that declared him the winner of Egypt's presidential election.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:44:27am |
re: #91 Killgore Trout
Quiet in here this morning.
Was posting, but when it went quiet I took the dogs for a stroll before it gets into thew 90's here
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:46:05am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:46:59am |
re: #90 Killgore Trout
and btw,, was going to post about that,, especially the line about
""We will reconsider the Camp David Accord" that, in 1979, forged a peace between Egypt and Israel that has held for more than three decades, Morsi was quoted as telling a Fars reporter in Cairo on Sunday, just before his election triumph was announced.
He said the issue of Palestinian refugees returning to homes their families abandoned in the 1948 Arab-Israeli war and the 1967 Six-Day War "is very important".
Now,, taking it with a grain of salt because the only place he was "quoted" as saying that comes from the Fars news agency!
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:48:08am |
re: #93 freetoken
The Jewish Federations of North America are to be congratulated for condemning the statement by Israel’s Chief Rabbi Shlomo Amar last week in which Amar referred to Reform and Conservative Jews as “up-rooters and destroyers of Judaism, who have brought devastation upon the Jewish people in the Diaspora.”
That's a shitty thing to say.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:49:02am |
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:49:19am |
re: #93 freetoken
Well, this might heat things up:
Being a U.S. Jew and an "ultra-Orthodox" how about U.S. Jews mind their own damn business and let the Israelis decide on their own. Nobody has ever prevented non-Orthodox rabbis from creating their own "Chief Rabbinate" and electing their own "Chief Rabbis."
Anyway, I am doing actual, you know, work.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:49:55am |
re: #95 Killgore Trout
I hereby give you this Laurel, and Hardy handshake for UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE DAY
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:50:51am |
I guess the spotlight is on the USSC today. Liveblogs and all... we wait with a modified breath.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:52:02am |
re: #99 freetoken
I guess the spotlight is on the USSC today. Liveblogs and all... we wait with a modified breath.
GET YER OUTRAGE HERE ,,,, OUTRAGES HERE,,, CAN'T TELL THE PLAYERS WITHOUT AN OUTRAGE!!!
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:52:55am |
re: #97 Learned Mother of Zion
Being a U.S. Jew and an "ultra-Orthodox" how about U.S. Jews mind their own damn business and let the Israelis decide on their own. Nobody has ever prevented non-Orthodox rabbis from creating their own "Chief Rabbinate" and electing their own "Chief Rabbis."
Anyway, I am doing actual, you know, work.
When did you get your 'Ultra' certification? Did you have to pass a test?
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:53:44am |
re: #101 Decatur Deb
When did you get your 'Ultra' certification? Did you have to pass a test?
I don't call myself that, that's the label that others have loaded on me so I guess I have to wear it.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:54:07am |
re: #94 sattv4u2
Now,, taking it with a grain of salt because the only place he was "quoted" as saying that comes from the Fars news agency!
Agreed. But it's certainly possible the quotes are accurate since things like restoring ties to Iran and cancelling the peace treaty have been part of the MB platform for quite some time. They softened briefly for the elections. Now we get to see how pragmatic the MB is going to be in a leadership role. I'm not overly optimistic judging by their lack of cooperation with other parties when it came time to hammer out a constitution. There is part of me that thinks that maybe the military's moves to curb the powers of civilian government are part of an international agreement to keep the country and the region stable just in case the MB decides to go apeshit.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:55:04am |
re: #101 Decatur Deb
When did you get your 'Ultra' certification? Did you have to pass a test?
Octane measurement. Comparative mileage per matzo and bowl of chicken soup.
// ;)
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:57:17am |
re: #102 Learned Mother of Zion
I don't call myself that, that's the label that others have loaded on me so I guess I have to wear it.
Labor-friendly Orthodox female with a bad mouth--you ain't never getting your 'Ultra' merit badge.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:59:20am |
It looks like milk toast is off the menu:
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Interesting Times Mon, Jun 25, 2012 6:59:40am |
Justices not there when decisions released. They stay home and furiously post anonymous comments supporting their opinion.— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) June 25, 2012
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:00:22am |
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:01:54am |
Restive Iowa could decide the presidency
"Restive"? Isn't that the term the media always uses for unstable, protest ladened nations about to be torn apart by civil war?
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:02:45am |
re: #109 freetoken
Restive Iowa could decide the presidency
"Restive"? Isn't that the term the media always uses for unstable, protest ladened nations about to be torn apart by civil war?
What happens in the corn fields, stays in the corn fields
sshhhhhh!!!!
| 111 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:03:15am |
Update: Jimmy Carter still stinks
Jimmy Carter savages US foreign policy over drone strikes
At a time when popular revolutions are sweeping the globe, the US should be strengthening, not weakening "basic rules of law and principles of justice", Carter says in the paper on Monday. His criticisms, just months before Obama hopes to regain the White House in November's presidential election, lambast the use of drones and detention.
Attacks on human rights after the terrorist atrocities of 9/11, have been "sanctioned and escalated by bipartisan executive and legislative actions, without dissent from the general public", says the Nobel peace prizewinner. "As a result, our country can no longer speak with moral authority on these critical issues."
Carter adds: "While the country has made mistakes in the past, the widespread abuse of human rights over the last decade has been a dramatic change from the past."
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iossarian Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:04:43am |
re: #111 Killgore Trout
Update: Jimmy Carter still stinks
Jimmy Carter savages US foreign policy over drone strikes
Barbra Streisand. Jane Fonda.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:05:06am |
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:05:17am |
re: #111 Killgore Trout
Update: Jimmy Carter still stinks
Jimmy Carter savages US foreign policy over drone strikes
There has been dissent from the general public. Occupy Plains.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:05:21am |
Syrian authorities raid restive areas as bombing reported across country
Bomb hits bus in restive Pakistani province, killing six
Wow... Syria and Pakistan are restive.
And now Iowa is restive.
I didn't realize it was in such bad shape.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:06:16am |
re: #115 freetoken
Syrian authorities raid restive areas as bombing reported across country
Bomb hits bus in restive Pakistani province, killing six
Wow... Syria and Pakistan are restive.
And now Iowa is restive.
I didn't realize it was in such bad shape.
Think he meant resting.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:06:52am |
re: #109 freetoken
Restive Iowa could decide the presidency
"Restive"? Isn't that the term the media always uses for unstable, protest ladened nations about to be torn apart by civil war?
For what it's worth, Minnesota is in the process of trying to move its aircraft carrier down the Mississippi. Just in case, y'know.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:07:09am |
Carter adds: "While the country has made mistakes in the past
November 2nd, 1976 comes to mind!
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:08:17am |
re: #111 Killgore Trout
Update: Jimmy Carter still stinks
Jimmy Carter savages US foreign policy over drone strikes
Go back to building houses and leave the foreign policy debates for people who are actually relevant, like the current President and his staff.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:08:38am |
re: #119 thedopefishlives
Go back to building houses and leave the foreign policy debates for people who are actually relevant, like the current President and his staff.
and us!!
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makeitstop Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:10:27am |
This showed up on a fellow Long Islander's FB page...
Seems like a fair price to dine with a democracy-killing corporatist and a soulless automaton.
not enough / on the entire internet.
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iossarian Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:11:32am |
re: #121 makeitstop
This showed up on a fellow Long Islander's FB page...
Seems like a fair price to dine with a democracy-killing corporatist and a soulless automaton.
not enough / on the entire internet.
I appreciate that they give a discount for the high class rent girls that the captains of industry will be bringing along. Thoughtful.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:11:57am |
re: #121 makeitstop
This showed up on a fellow Long Islander's FB page...
Seems like a fair price to dine with a democracy-killing corporatist and a soulless automaton.
not enough / on the entire internet.
Should we take a jello salad?
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:12:59am |
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:13:08am |
re: #105 Decatur Deb
Labor-friendly Orthodox female with a bad mouth--you ain't never getting your 'Ultra' merit badge.
Sorry, already earned it after the 9th kid, and locked in "lifetime" after the 30th grandkid.
| 126 |
Flounder Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:13:27am |
Pat Tillman wrote his wife a goodbye note just in case.
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:14:01am |
re: #125 Learned Mother of Zion
Sorry, already earned it after the 9th kid, and locked in "lifetime" after the 30th grandkid.
You are confusing 'horny' and 'ultra'.
| 128 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:14:28am |
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:15:12am |
Even Gordon Ramsay couldn't make a $50,000 jello salad.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:15:51am |
re: #129 freetoken
Even Gordon Ramsay couldn't make a $50,000 jello salad.
Bill Cosby could, but he wouldn't.
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Gus Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:17:50am |
re: #111 Killgore Trout
Update: Jimmy Carter still stinks
Jimmy Carter savages US foreign policy over drone strikes
Nice word choice there, "savages." I don't think Carter (who I once upon a time voted for) could savage anything. Yeah, he can get in on the anti-drone hipster agenda. While we're debating this we could ask him about his involvement with East Timor and Central Americans death squads.
Last night I got a little bored and decided to check some of the old "war porn" of mostly JDAM strikes in Iraq and Afghanistan. Some of the videos showing multiple strikes of 2,000 pound JDAMs -- including one strike of approximately 9 2,000 pounders.
I know one thing. If I lived in the region I would prefer to see the Americans firing off a 500 pound Hellfire from a drone then be around 18,000 pounds of being dropped from a screaming Super Hornet.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:18:22am |
re: #127 Decatur Deb
You are confusing 'horny' and 'ultra'.
I can be completely celibate and still make grandbabies. :)
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Gus Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:18:39am |
BREAKING: the US Supreme Court has struck down Montana's campaign finance challenge to #CitizensUnited in a 5-4 ruling #source2012— OpenSecrets.org (@OpenSecretsDC) June 25, 2012
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lawhawk Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:18:45am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area, which is under t-storm watches/warnings today. Nothing like what they're seeing on the Gulf Coast though - where they're expecting 1-2 feet of rain as well as severe weather through the end of the week.
Anyhow, couple of quick hits.
Pro Swastika Day went about as well as expected, particularly when the folks behind the "day" combined a Jewish star with a swastika in a banner flown behind a plane around the metro area this weekend.
Oh, and there's this thing that the Supreme Court might be ruling on. Health care or something. Highly political. Very important. Could affect presidential politics. Apocalyptic. Apoplectic even.
Violence in Syria continues, and the Syrians are now dealing with fallout from shooting down a Turkish jet over the weekend as well as defections to Turkey of a general and group of soldiers.
Morsi is now president of Egypt, but what he's going to do and how it will actually improve the lives of Egyptians is ... up in the air since no one knows just how much power he's going to actually have since the military has retained most of the power.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:19:16am |
re: #131 freetoken
Anyone feeling especially poor right now?
Going to feel poorer after doing a Paypal to the Obama campaign. Going in a day or so, and haven't figured out the best strategy. Straight to Obama HQ, or to a PAC?
| 138 |
Gus Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:20:40am |
Supreme Court reverses in part and affirms in part Arizona vs. US. (3 out of 4 provisions invalidated).— CAP Action: Congress (@CAPcongress) June 25, 2012
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:20:50am |
re: #134 Learned Mother of Zion
I can be completely celibate and still make grandbabies. :)
After a certain age, kvetching is more productive than sex.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:22:29am |
re: #139 Decatur Deb
After a certain age, kvetching is more productive than sex.
The old man is much better at kvetching than I am.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:22:52am |
I guess this is a victory for democracy.
| 144 |
Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:23:57am |
re: #131 freetoken
Anyone feeling especially poor right now?
You know somebody who is looking for a job? Recruiters don't stop calling.
| 145 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:24:02am |
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:24:48am |
re: #144 Learned Mother of Zion
You know somebody who is looking for a job? Recruiters don't stop calling.
Me.
I don't sing, but I can dance a little.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:27:15am |
re: #147 Gus
Don't worry. It will get better soon.
//
Yeah, when Mitt Romney is President, all the rich will get more richer and then they'll fire up the magical hiring elves to give all us poor people better-paying jerbs.
[cough.]
| 149 |
Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:27:41am |
| 150 |
lawhawk Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:29:16am |
Supreme Court strikes down most parts of controversial Ariz. immigration law
The law had made it a crime for non-citizens who are unlawfully present in the United States to work in Arizona and requires police officers to check the immigration status of any person whom they have probable cause to believe is an illegal immigrant.
The decision was a victory for President Obama who had criticized the law, saying it “threatened to undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans.” The Justice Department moved quickly in 2010 to block enforcement of the law.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:30:23am |
re: #149 Learned Mother of Zion
Yes but can you program?
I refuse to do one's complement.
Funnily, I do have a MS in Software Engineering, but I always hated to do coding. Oh, my programs in classes or my own projects always looked good (properly documented), logical, readable by others (even got compliments), and so forth. But... I was always the slowest too. I think there's a correlation there...
| 152 |
Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:35:03am |
re: #151 freetoken
I refuse to do one's complement.
Funnily, I do have a MS in Software Engineering, but I always hated to do coding. Oh, my programs in classes or my own projects always looked good (properly documented), logical, readable by others (even got compliments), and so forth. But... I was always the slowest too. I think there's a correlation there...
What kind of job are you looking for?
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lawhawk Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:36:00am |
The AZ decision is here.
KENNEDY, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which ROBERTS,
C. J., and GINSBURG, BREYER, and SOTOMAYOR, JJ., joined. SCALIA, J.,
THOMAS, J., and ALITO, J., filed opinions concurring in part and dissenting in part. KAGAN, J., took no part in the consideration or decision of
the case.
| 154 |
lawhawk Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:38:27am |
Citizens United applies to state elections.
By a 5-4 vote, the court's conservative justices said the decision in the Citizens United case in 2010 applies to state campaign finance laws and guarantees corporate and labor union interests the right to spend freely to advocate for or against candidates for state and local offices.
The majority turned away pleas from the court's liberal justices to give a full hearing to the case because massive campaign spending since the January 2010 ruling has called into question some of its underpinnings.
The same five justices said in 2010 that corporations have a constitutional right to be heard in election campaigns. The decision paved the way for unlimited spending by corporations and labor unions in elections for Congress and the president, as long as the dollars are independent of the campaigns they are intended to help. The decision, grounded in the freedom of speech, appeared to apply equally to state contests.
But Montana aggressively defended its 1912 law against a challenge from corporations seeking to be free of spending limits, and the state Supreme Court sided with the state. The state court said a history of corruption showed the need for the limits, even as Justice Anthony Kennedy declared in his Citizens United opinion that independent expenditures by corporations "do not give rise to corruption or the appearance of corruption."
Twenty-two states and the District of Columbia, as well as Sen. John McCain and other congressional champions of stricter regulations on campaign money, joined with Montana.
Two liberal justices who were in dissent in Citizens United — Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer — already had challenged Kennedy's view that the independent campaign spending could not be corrupting by virtue of the absence of links to a campaign.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:40:19am |
One killed, six wounded by gunfire as Gaza celebrates Egypt vote
The Gaza Strip erupted in celebratory gunfire on Sunday with news that the Muslim Brotherhood’s candidate won the presidency in neighboring Egypt, but one person was killed.
Tens of thousands of joyous Palestinians took to the streets across the territory after Egypt announced that Mohammed Morsi won last weekend’s runoff election, the first time an Islamist has won that nation’s highest office.
Gunmen fired automatic weapons in the air, while mosque loudspeakers rang with prayer. Some revelers handed out candy on street corners. Others waved Egyptian flags and blasted the country’s national anthem from car speakers.
A Gaza health official said that one person was killed and six others wounded by celebratory gunfire.
Gaza is ruled by the militant Islamic Hamas, a local offshoot of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:40:27am |
re: #152 Learned Mother of Zion
What kind of job are you looking for?
Well, it's a bit early in the day for me to be serious...
But, if given a choice, I'd prefer to do writing (maybe editing) assignments. I'm best at presentations and technical reports, analysis, etc.
| 157 |
lawhawk Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:41:35am |
Another important case decided - the Court found it unconstitutional to grant life sentences without parole to young offenders.
The Supreme Court Monday struck down mandatory sentences of life imprisonment without parole for convicted murderers who were only 14 years old when they committed their crimes.
There are approximately 80 fourteen-year-olds nationwide who are serving such sentences.The justices ruled that imposition of a life-without-parole sentence on a fourteen-year-old person convicted of homicide violates the Eighth Amendment's prohibition against cruel and unusual punishments.
Oh, and no health care ruling today folks.
Thus ends your legal news for the day.... we now return to your regularly scheduled political punditry.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:42:46am |
re: #156 freetoken
Well, it's a bit early in the day for me to be serious...
But, if given a choice, I'd prefer to do writing (maybe editing) assignments. I'm best at presentations and technical reports, analysis, etc.
I'm getting calls for .NET developer
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:43:51am |
re: #157 lawhawk
we now return to your regularly scheduled political punditry.
What about a boob thread? We haven't had a good boob thread in a long while, even though we have some very good boobs here (myself included)
| 160 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:45:40am |
re: #154 lawhawk
Groan. Citizens United was a mistake, but it looks like the Supremes are standing by their decision to allow the political money machine to flow. Is it wrong that I'm depressed by this?
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:45:51am |
re: #133 Gus
I know one thing. If I lived in the region I would prefer to see the Americans firing off a 500 pound Hellfire from a drone then be around 18,000 pounds of being dropped from a screaming Super Hornet
You do know thew gov't has your address, right?
//
| 162 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:46:41am |
re: #158 Learned Mother of Zion
I'm getting calls for .NET developer
I find .NET amusing since I worked with VAX/VMS back in the early 90s with object libraries and LINK commands to build the EXEs - and you only had to copy the EXE around, not include 5 billion DLL files.
Only took Microsoft an extra decade or so to catch on the idea in a workable manner.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:47:41am |
re: #160 thedopefishlives
Groan. Citizens United was a mistake, but it looks like the Supremes are standing by their decision to allow the political money machine to flow. Is it wrong that I'm depressed by this?
You will never prevent Mitt being elected dog catcher, it's within his price range.
///
| 164 |
Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:48:09am |
re: #162 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
I find .NET amusing since I worked with VAX/VMS back in the early 90s with object libraries and LINK commands to build the EXEs - and you only had to copy the EXE around, not include 5 billion DLL files.
Only took Microsoft an extra decade or so to catch on the idea in a workable manner.
I also worked on VAX/VMS systems.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:49:51am |
re: #164 Learned Mother of Zion
I also worked on VAX/VMS systems.
I miss it every time I have to do a file search for text on a MS OS machine. (Though there is some nice 3rd party software that does it efficiently. But the base search program sucks something awful in that regard.)
| 166 |
sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:51:39am |
When will networks learn to just report the news instead of trying to make the news??
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
Sandusky lawyers may use NBC tape error in appeal
prosecutors showed jurors an inaccurate version of a bombshell NBC News interview with the former football coach, and the mistake may now form part of the basis for an appeal.
It's the second time in a matter of months that an error in a ‘Today' show broadcast has put the morning program at the center of a national criminal trial. In April, 'Today' aired a misleadingly edited phone call between the police and the man who shot Florida teenager Trayvon Martin
| 167 |
Mattand Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:51:58am |
re: #153 lawhawk
The AZ decision is here.
... SCALIA, J.,THOMAS, J., and ALITO, J., filed opinions concurring in part and dissenting in part.
Color me shocked the Three Stooges would vote to uphold portions of punitive immigration laws.
I'm sure they'll make themselves feel better on Thursday by gutting HCR.
EDIT: added "portions" to acknowledge they concurred in part.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:52:12am |
re: #159 sattv4u2
we now return to your regularly scheduled political punditry.
What about a boob thread? We haven't had a good boob thread in a long while, even though we have some very good boobs here (myself included)
There were plenty of them at Coney Island for the Mermaid Parade this weekend!
| 169 |
freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:52:23am |
Top Court Won’t Consider Cross At U.S. Veterans’ Memorial
The U.S. Supreme Court rejected an Obama administration appeal aimed at preserving a 29-foot Christian cross at a veterans’ memorial on federal land in San Diego, California.
The justices, without comment, left intact a federal appeals court decision that the display of the cross is an unconstitutional government endorsement of religion. The federal government took over the site from the city in 2006 under a law Congress passed during a court fight over the cross that began in 1989.
[...]
I'm so confused. I thought President Obama was an enemy of Jesus... then why was he fighting to keep a Christian cross on federal land?
| 170 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:53:24am |
re: #169 freetoken
Top Court Won’t Consider Cross At U.S. Veterans’ Memorial
I'm so confused. I thought President Obama was an enemy of Jesus... then why was he fighting to keep a Christian cross on federal land?
Separation of church & state!
Separation of church & state!
Separation of church & state!
| 171 |
sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:53:31am |
re: #169 freetoken
Top Court Won’t Consider Cross At U.S. Veterans’ Memorial
I'm so confused. I thought President Obama was an enemy of Jesus... then why was he fighting to keep a Christian cross on federal land?
So he can erect a mosque on top of it!!
Geeezz,, don't you know anything!!!
//
| 172 |
Mattand Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:54:11am |
re: #169 freetoken
Top Court Won’t Consider Cross At U.S. Veterans’ Memorial
I'm so confused. I thought President Obama was an enemy of Jesus... then why was he fighting to keep a Christian cross on federal land?
Exhibit 36 for when some conservative complains that Obama is an atheist liberal who hates JC>
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:54:19am |
re: #158 Learned Mother of Zion
I'm getting calls for .NET developer
In Microsoft we Trust.
Well, not me.
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:55:39am |
re: #154 lawhawk
Really sad. Even with the obvious effects of out-of-state money in Wisconsin. CU is here to stay for awhile. If Romney wins, CU is just here to stay for the foreseeable future.
| 175 |
SpaceJesus Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:55:49am |
lol jan brewer not going to be happy camper
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:55:59am |
re: #173 freetoken
In Microsoft we Trust.
Well, not me.
Eh, it pays the bills. Much as I prefer not to work in a Microsoft environment, nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft.
| 177 |
Interesting Times Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:56:02am |
re: #150 lawhawk
Supreme Court strikes down most parts of controversial Ariz. immigration law
Someone didn't get the memo, it seems...
RT @politico: RT @mkady: MSNBC and CNN have the words "rejected" and "struck down" on crawl. Fox has the word "upheld" in its chyron.— Krystal Ball (@KrystalBall1) June 25, 2012
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:58:09am |
re: #165 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
I miss it every time I have to do a file search for text on a MS OS machine. (Though there is some nice 3rd party software that does it efficiently. But the base search program sucks something awful in that regard.)
Yeah, buncha stuff we could do very easily in VMS took MS a long time to catch up to. Now I can finally set breakpoints and step through code in Visual Studio just like I used to do in Fortran back in the '80's.
| 181 |
sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:58:26am |
re: #177 Interesting Times
Someone didn't get the memo, it seems...
[Embedded content]
And another
Supreme Court upholds key part of Arizona immigration law, strikes down rest
Guess it's a glass half full/ empty kinda day!
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:59:08am |
re: #166 sattv4u2
When will networks learn to just report the news instead of trying to make the news??
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
Sandusky lawyers may use NBC tape error in appeal
prosecutors showed jurors an inaccurate version of a bombshell NBC News interview with the former football coach, and the mistake may now form part of the basis for an appeal.
It's the second time in a matter of months that an error in a ‘Today' show broadcast has put the morning program at the center of a national criminal trial. In April, 'Today' aired a misleadingly edited phone call between the police and the man who shot Florida teenager Trayvon Martin
NBC has had some serious problems with deceptively edited tapes lately. Then there's also the MSNBC Mitt Romney edit about the sandwich machine. I don't know the corporate structure but I wonder if it's contagion from the activist journalism of MSNBC.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:00:07am |
re: #180 Learned Mother of Zion
Yeah, buncha stuff we could do very easily in VMS took MS a long time to catch up to. Now I can finally set breakpoints and step through code in Visual Studio just like I used to do in Fortran back in the '80's.
If I recall some of the developers from DEC who helped create VMS ended up with MS. And did take part in developing Win 2000. That's when I started spotting "VAX" things like ACLs in the OS.
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Mattand Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:00:19am |
re: #178 freetoken
Thursday for the final cut.
Yeah, given Scalia's transparent flip flop, it's a matter of how badly it gets torched.
Funny thing is I'm not wild about the personal mandate, but in retrospect Obama went with it because it's what the GOP was pushing for years. Drives me up a wall that people never acknowledge that.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:00:38am |
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:03:17am |
I went over to Fox Nation to see what their take was on the SB 1070 but found this instead. Thank you for brightening up this Monday, Fox.
[Link: nation.foxnews.com...]
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:06:09am |
re: #186 SpaceJesus
I went over to Fox Nation to see what their take was on the SB 1070 but found this instead. Thank you for brightening up this Monday, Fox.
[Link: nation.foxnews.com...]
Classy
(The White House denounced their actions the next day, btw)
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:07:13am |
Good morning fellow Lizards,
If you haven't already, I highly recommend watching "Gasland" it's a pretty sobering look at the natural gas industry and how they extract the gas.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:07:15am |
The Murdoch media is trying to put their own spin on the decision - note this headline:
Supreme Court upholds key provision in Arizona immigration law, strikes down three others
Which is just bull, of course. Checking the status of individuals already being held as suspects was never the hot-button part of the bill.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:07:18am |
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:08:28am |
Oh and I don't ever, ever want to hear about "activist judges" again.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:09:47am |
re: #189 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
the natural gas industry and how they extract the gas.
They have a vacuum pipe in my sons room after he and his friends have gone out for Tex Mex??
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bratwurst Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:10:13am |
re: #192 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
Oh and I don't ever, ever want to hear about "activist judges" again.
What's so ironic about Scalia is he's 1) the loudest complainer about Court politicization & 2) the most politicized Justice in a long time— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) June 25, 2012
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:12:59am |
re: #184 Mattand
Scalia's 'originalism' is just a blind, no more. He loves federal power when it's doing things that favor the GOP or conservatives, who hates it when it's supporting labor or Democrats. It is a little surprising he's being as blatant as to be anti-commerce clause now. Neo-confederacy seemed slightly too far even for him, but I guess not.
It's really funny: Scalia is arguing that states shouldn't be able to regulate their political campaign donations in the way they want to, Federal law taking precedent, but that they should be able to regulate commerce. Because obviously commerce is more intra-state than a state election.
Clownshoes.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:14:47am |
re: #193 sattv4u2
that would be the least toxic way to get it lol.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:18:05am |
The food police want to ban cranberry juice from schools. Luckily there is bipartisan support to stop that.
Mass. lawmakers come to defense of cranberry
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bay State's two U.S. senators have joined in a bipartisan effort on behalf of cranberry growers.
The Boston Globe reports that Democratic Sen. John Kerry and Republican Sen. Scott Brown are looking to keep cranberry juice cocktails from being added to a list of sugary drinks that may soon be banned from public schools because of a campaign to reduce childhood obesity.
While they support the overall goal of the campaign, the Massachusetts lawmakers say an exception should be made for the cranberry, in part because of the overall health benefits of the fruit.
Kerry, Brown and Rep. William Keating recently joined with other members of Congress to form a cranberry caucus to support the industry.
Cranberry juice has so many health benefits including preventing urinary tract infections you have to wonder why they want to ban it.
Helps to Reduce High Cholesterol Levels
Prevention of Kidney Stone Formation
Cranberries Combat Herpes Virus
Protection Against Macular Degeneration
Reduction of Dental Plaque
Prevents Stomach Related Problems
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:20:03am |
T-shirt at the RPG session on Saturday:
"Irony is the opposite of Wrinkly."
;)
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:21:34am |
re: #197 NJDhockeyfan
Unfortunately, cranberry "drinks" often have not so much actual juice from cranberries, but are mostly a sugar water item, flavored with cranberry juice.
True of many so called "fruit juice" drinks.
Cranberries are so tart that children are unlikely to drink the juice unless highly sweetened.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:22:57am |
re: #197 NJDhockeyfan
Massachusetts lawmakers say an exception should be made for the cranberry, in part because of the overall health benefits of the fruit.
That, and from Plymouth to Cape Cod are home of HUGE tracts of cranberry bogs and the home of the Ocean Spray company
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makeitstop Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:23:37am |
re: #199 freetoken
Unfortunately, cranberry "drinks" often have not so much actual juice from cranberries, but are mostly a sugar water item, flavored with cranberry juice.
True of many so called "fruit juice" drinks.
Cranberries are so tart that children are unlikely to drink the juice unless highly sweetened.
Exactly. The benefits of cranberry 'juice drinks' are mitigated by the high fructose corn syrup they use to sweeten it.
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:24:15am |
re: #197 NJDhockeyfan
Cranberry juice is great. Cranberry cocktails with cranberry flavoring and shitloads of corn syrup suck.
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makeitstop Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:26:08am |
Who said Governor Crazypants was gonna be mad?
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) touted today’s Supreme Court decision invalidating some but not all parts of SB 1070, a controversial immigration law, as a “victory for the rule of law.”
“It is also a victory for the 10th Amendment and all Americans who believe in the inherent right and responsibility of states to defend their citizens,” Brewer said in a press release. “After more than two years of legal challenges, the heart of SB 1070 can now be implemented in accordance with the U.S. Constitution.”
Must have gotten the news from Fox.
/
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:26:15am |
Saying cranberry juice is partially responsible for kids being obese is ridiculous. It's known to be very good for you. Banning it is just plain stupid.
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Interesting Times Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:26:36am |
Well fancy that - if you talk about something being a cultural tradition, or an aspect of a particular culture, you're a racist! Who knew? 9_9
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makeitstop Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:27:09am |
re: #204 NJDhockeyfan
Saying cranberry juice is partially responsible for kids being obese is ridiculous. It's known to be very good for you. Banning it is just plain stupid.
Load up anything that's good for you with HFCS, and it ceases to be good for you.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:28:54am |
re: #204 NJDhockeyfan
Saying cranberry juice is partially responsible for kids being obese is ridiculous. It's known to be very good for you. Banning it is just plain stupid.
They don't mean actual cranberry juice, but cranberry-flavored drinks which are mostly HFCS, food coloring, and water.
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:29:45am |
re: #204 NJDhockeyfan
Saying cranberry juice is partially responsible for kids being obese is ridiculous. It's known to be very good for you. Banning it is just plain stupid.
Saying cranberry drinks with lots of corn syrup in them (which people drink under the impression they're cranberry juice and therefore healthy) is responsible for kids being obese makes perfect sense, however.
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The Questionable Timing of a Flea Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:30:06am |
re: #204 NJDhockeyfan
Saying cranberry juice is partially responsible for kids being obese is ridiculous. It's known to be very good for you. Banning it is just plain stupid.
Cranberry juice versus Cranberry juice cocktail is actually a meaningful distinction in this case, as the latter can be a giant mass of additives with only a tiny bit of cranberry juice in it.
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:33:45am |
And in my personal war on obesity I've finally dropped down to below 175 pounds. I was at 200 at the max. The weirdest part is that I now look more like 'me' to myself.
Thank you, 92nd street Young Men and Women's Hebrew Association. You have an awesome, well-run gym with hilarious characters, and lots of impressively fit sixty year old guys who make me hopeful for the future.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:35:03am |
Peres conference provides platform for Farrakhan fan
Toward the close of the fourth Presidential Conference, Russell Simmons, the African American hip-hop mogul and co-sponsor of Rabbi Marc Schneier’s Foundation for Ethnic Understanding, made an outrageous statement accusing Anti-Defamation League head Abe Foxman of alienating Afro-Americans just as Louis Farrakhan had alienated Jews.
That Simmons had the chutzpa to make such a statement in Jerusalem was bad enough, but doing so as a guest of President Shimon Peres’s conference makes one question the judgment of the organizers who invited him.
Simmons has indeed condemned anti-Semitism, but he remains a staunch supporter and financial contributor to Farrakhan, the African-American radical leader of the Nation of Islam, probably the most loathsome and effective anti-Semite in the United States. A promoter of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, he describes Judaism as a “gutter religion” and praises Adolf Hitler as “a great man.”
What an asshole.
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bratwurst Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:35:06am |
I am in the midst of a career change, from language education to nutritional education, and this conversation about cranberry "juice" is a perfect example of the struggles I will be facing.
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Gus Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:35:51am |
re: #209 The Ghost of a Flea
Cranberry juice versus Cranberry juice cocktail is actually a meaningful distinction in this case, as the latter can be a giant mass of additives with only a tiny bit of cranberry juice in it.
So true. Why if it wasn't for government I would have known that excessive sugar consumption may lead to diabetes and other health complications.
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Mattand Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:37:23am |
re: #195 Obdicut
Sometimes I wonder if we should amend the Constitution to impose term limits on SCOTUS judges. Maybe something like 20 years. I dunno.
I just wish Scalia would be honest about this stuff. He's not ruling impartially. He's publishing a book that rejects a precedent that might support HCR. Forget the fact that he agreed with said precedent 6 years ago.
Funny how you never hear the phrase "activist judge" applied to this guy. He's as much a shill for the GOP as Fox News. And about as forthright.
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Gus Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:37:26am |
re: #208 Obdicut
Saying cranberry drinks with lots of corn syrup in them (which people drink under the impression they're cranberry juice and therefore healthy) is responsible for kids being obese makes perfect sense, however.
Parents are responsible. Not cranberry juice producers.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:37:36am |
re: #199 freetoken
Unfortunately, cranberry "drinks" often have not so much actual juice from cranberries, but are mostly a sugar water item, flavored with cranberry juice.
True of many so called "fruit juice" drinks.
Cranberries are so tart that children are unlikely to drink the juice unless highly sweetened.
Semi-related: I don't eat much sugar or processed food. I had a craving at the grocery store and bought a Digorno's frozen pizza. When I cooked it I could smell the sugar in it and looked at the label. Something like 7 grams of sugar in a pizza! (that's about 5 tablespoons). It smelled like a doughnut to me. I also don't eat McDonald's very often, the taste is ok but the smell of the sugar is pretty bad. It's amazing how much sugar is in everything we eat. Most people are just used to it.
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Gus Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:38:29am |
re: #216 Killgore Trout
Semi-related: I don't eat much sugar or processed food. I had a craving at the grocery store and bought a Digorno's frozen pizza. When I cooked it I could smell the sugar in it and looked at the label. Something like 7 grams of sugar in a pizza! (that's about 5 tablespoons). It smelled like a doughnut to me. I also don't eat McDonald's very often, the taste is ok but the smell of the sugar is pretty bad. It's amazing how much sugar is in everything we eat. Most people are just used to it.
That's terrible. You should sue Digorno's.
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:39:36am |
re: #215 Gus
Parents are responsible. Not cranberry juice producers.
I'm not really concerned with who is responsible. Public schools should serve meals that are healthy. It is unlikely to ever really be the case, though, especially since we often consider potato a vegetable.
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gwangung Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:39:51am |
re: #215 Gus
Parents are responsible. Not cranberry juice producers.
Um, isn't this about allowing cranberry products in schools?
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Mattand Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:40:01am |
re: #216 Killgore Trout
Semi-related: I don't eat much sugar or processed food. I had a craving at the grocery store and bought a Digorno's frozen pizza. When I cooked it I could smell the sugar in it and looked at the label. Something like 7 grams of sugar in a pizza! (that's about 5 tablespoons). It smelled like a doughnut to me. I also don't eat McDonald's very often, the taste is ok but the smell of the sugar is pretty bad. It's amazing how much sugar is in everything we eat. Most people are just used to it.
I need to get back on that train. I made a conscious effort to cut back sugars a few years back and actually saw a decent weight loss. Of course, I was exercising more back then. And was younger.
Ah, screw it. I'm gonna go snort a bag of sugar.
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Gus Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:40:31am |
re: #219 gwangung
Um, isn't this about allowing cranberry products in schools?
True. The same schools that consider pizza sauce a vegetable.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:43:00am |
The problem with natural cranberry juice is that it is so sour (like lemon juice) you can't drink it as a beverage without adding sweetener.
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:43:09am |
re: #222 Gus
Heh. Obesity is the crisis, diet is the source of the problem, and as for solutions, I can't actually think of any that would work. As with most of US problems, it's a cultural and educational problem.
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Gus Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:43:53am |
re: #224 Obdicut
Heh. Obesity is the crisis, diet is the source of the problem, and as for solutions, I can't actually think of any that would work. As with most of US problems, it's a cultural and educational problem.
Well. Good luck in that endeavor.
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bratwurst Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:45:12am |
re: #225 Gus
Well. Good luck in that endeavor.
Heh...as I mentioned above, I have found language teaching SUCH a dead end (after 18 years in 3 countries) that I am willing to give it a shot!
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:45:26am |
re: #215 Gus
Parents are responsible. Not cranberry juice producers.
If cranberry bushes wouldn't have unprotected sex we wouldn't have this problem.
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allegro Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:46:35am |
re: #216 Killgore Trout
Something like 7 grams of sugar in a pizza! (that's about 5 tablespoons)
Not defending sugar addition but... 7 grams of sugar is about .25 oz which is about a half TBS of sugar, not 5 TBS.
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:46:48am |
re: #225 Gus
Well. Good luck in that endeavor.
Thanks, but I'm not really doing shit about it. Michelle Obama is, with her constant promotion of gardening and good diet, and is fighting it really the only way it can be fought-- on the cultural front. Of course, she's met with howls of poutrage for daring to suggest that people's freedom to stuff whatever they want into their maws doesn't mean that downing a double-chocolate shake is an act of liberty and moral courage.
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Mattand Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:46:49am |
re: #224 Obdicut
Heh. Obesity is the crisis, diet is the source of the problem, and as for solutions, I can't actually think of any that would work. As with most of US problems, it's a cultural and educational problem.
My sister's brother-in-law was bitching at me about the Cookie Monster adding fruits and vegetables to his diet.
I'm actually of two minds on that one. I get the argument that a puppet is not responsible for your kids eating too many cookies. At the same time, the show's about education and it's influential. Is it really that horrible that Cookie Monster is broadening his diet?
Also, my sister's brother-in-law is a Grade A asswipe.
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Mattand Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:48:47am |
re: #229 Obdicut
Of course, she's met with howls of poutrage for daring to suggest that people's freedom to stuff whatever they want into their maws doesn't mean that downing a double-chocolate shake is an act of liberty and moral courage.
Can I use that phrase? That's great.
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:49:15am |
re: #228 allegro
Damn it, I was just setting up a cocaine deal with him. I was gonna be rich!
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:49:29am |
re: #231 Mattand
Can I use that phrase? That's great.
Not original with me, no idea who I stole it from.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:50:47am |
re: #220 Mattand
I need to get back on that train. I made a conscious effort to cut back sugars a few years back and actually saw a decent weight loss. Of course, I was exercising more back then. And was younger.
Ah, screw it. I'm gonna go snort a bag of sugar.
It's actually pretty easy. Learn to cook and you can probably eat pretty much anything you want. If you were to make a pizza yourself there's no way in hell you'd put 5 tablespoons of sugar on it. Same with pasta sauce. You can eat more and you'll lose weight if you cook it yourself. You probably wouldn't even need to make a conscious decision to cut make on sugar.
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The Questionable Timing of a Flea Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:51:26am |
re: #213 Gus
So true. Why if it wasn't for government I would have known that excessive sugar consumption may lead to diabetes and other health complications.
//
My point is that it's a lot of semantic weaseling to tout the benefits of the "juice cocktail"--which contain only a tiny amount of cranberry juice compared to the product that can actually be labelled "juice." Hence far less health benefits. Whether or not I agree with the sugary drinks ban, the reasoning being applied by these lawmakers is horseshit. And frankly I'm not in love with the way that food producers practice adulteration while relying on the ignorance of the customer...and that it's a legislature doing advocacy so that an industry can tout sugar water as healthy just gets my back up. Caveat emptor is a caution, not an excuse.
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iossarian Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:53:14am |
re: #234 Killgore Trout
It's actually pretty easy. Learn to cook and you can probably eat pretty much anything you want. If you were to make a pizza yourself there's no way in hell you'd put 5 tablespoons of sugar on it. Same with pasta sauce. You can eat more and you'll lose weight if you cook it yourself. You probably wouldn't even need to make a conscious decision to cut make on sugar.
Which is why the food industry in the US pours vast amounts of money into opposing any effort to educate people on the calamitous effects on public health of their processed products.
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:53:22am |
re: #234 Killgore Trout
Er, again, 7 grams is not five tablespoons. It's a little less than one, which is a perfectly appropriate amount to add to a pizza dough.
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gwangung Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:54:21am |
re: #236 iossarian
Which is why the food industry in the US pours vast amounts of money into opposing any effort to educate people on the calamitous effects on public health of their processed products.
You know, even in a libertarian world, this should be an allowable and encouraged function of government. Market places don't work without information.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:54:51am |
re: #228 allegro
Not defending sugar addition but... 7 grams of sugar is about .25 oz which is about a half TBS of sugar, not 5 TBS.
ah, I had to google it again. You are correct. 7 g sugar is a bit under 2 teaspoons. Still way too much for a small pizza. if I were to make it myself I would guess I'd use 1/4 teaspoon or less to rise the yeast for the dough. That's it.
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allegro Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:55:22am |
re: #237 Obdicut
Er, again, 7 grams is not five tablespoons. It's a little less than one, which is a perfectly appropriate amount to add to a pizza dough.
Some of that 1/2 TBS of sugar is probably in the tomato sauce as well. Tomato sauce gets bitter as it's simmered for some time to make a rich and yummy sauce. A teaspoon or so of sugar takes that bitter flavor out.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:57:11am |
re: #240 allegro
Some of that 1/2 TBS of sugar is probably in the tomato sauce as well. Tomato sauce gets bitter as it's simmered for some time to make a rich and yummy sauce. A teaspoon or so of sugar takes that bitter flavor out.
I blame Mary Poppins.
/
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Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:59:01am |
re: #217 Gus
That's terrible. You should sue Digorno's.
//
Sugar smells - and it's a horrible smell too!//
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allegro Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:59:13am |
re: #239 Killgore Trout
ah, I had to google it again. You are correct. 7 g sugar is a bit under 2 teaspoons. Still way too much for a small pizza. if I were to make it myself I would guess I'd use 1/4 teaspoon or less to rise the yeast for the dough. That's it.
Just one more small nitpick, an average fresh tomato has about 5 grams of sugar in it. If a pizza has tomato sauce along with other veggies like onions, green peppers, etc. a bunch of that sugar isn't added, it's just in the veggies.
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Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:00:17am |
Jamie Oliver is gonna hear about this./
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Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:01:53am |
re: #243 allegro
Just one more small nitpick, an average fresh tomato has about 5 grams of sugar in it. If a pizza has tomato sauce along with other veggies like onions, green peppers, etc. a bunch of that sugar isn't added, it's just in the veggies.
Definitely. I use tomatoes to sweeten my mince pies (you would call them ground beef pies I think).
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The Questionable Timing of a Flea Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:02:45am |
re: #238 gwangung
You know, even in a libertarian world, this should be an allowable and encouraged function of government. Market places don't work without information.
Large companies don't want informed consumers, competition, or independent standards of quality...and right now they're dumping a bunch of money into tamping those things down.
Heck, look at the Wisconsin law that forced small breweries to use distributors rather than circulate their own product.
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BARACK THE VOTE Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:02:56am |
re: #245 Aye Pod
Definitely. I use tomatoes to sweeten my mince pies (you would call them ground beef pies I think).
I call 'em tasty!
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lawhawk Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:04:24am |
Cranberry juice is great, though you're still going to need to add quite a bit of sugar.
Ditto for any of the cranberry sauces. It's a necessary component to making them palatable.
For instance, the Ocean Spray cranberry sauce has 21g of sugar per serving.
Ocean Spray 100% Juice Cranberry Blend: claims to have no added sugar, but has 36g of sugar per serving. Diet has 2g of sugar. The Cranberry juice cocktail has 30g.
It's no wonder that Ocean Spray would oppose a sugar beverage ban.
But it also goes back to something I've been saying - soda makers will probably try to add vitamins and minerals to their beverages to get around a ban by claiming they're not nearly as empty calories as they were once deemed. They wont cut back on the sugar content, but it's not the main reason for obesity - a sedentary lifestyle is a prime reason but you can't ban sitting on your ass. Banning certain beverages may have legs; banning super sized steak portions wont happen, even as that could have just as bad an effect on a person's health.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:04:39am |
re: #245 Aye Pod
Definitely. I use tomatoes to sweeten my mince pies (you would call them ground beef pies I think).
I got the impression from Alton Brown that mincing with a claymore was an arduous process, and possibly not that safe for the modern kitchen.
/ ;)
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lawhawk Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:05:51am |
re: #249 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
The key is remembering which side faces away from you. /
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wrenchwench Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:07:39am |
The best part of the AZ ruling really is how hack 'winger bloggers are unsure if they can make snotty victory posts about it or not.— August J. Pollak (@AugustJPollak) June 25, 2012
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:09:00am |
re: #243 allegro
Just one more small nitpick, an average fresh tomato has about 5 grams of sugar in it. If a pizza has tomato sauce along with other veggies like onions, green peppers, etc. a bunch of that sugar isn't added, it's just in the veggies.
ah, I've been speaking from memory here so I searched the nutrition info.
Digiorno - Rising Crust Four Cheese Frozen Pizza
Serving size 1/6 pizza (which is about one slice)
that's 6 grams per slice.
the entire pizza has 36 grams of sugar!
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:09:44am |
re: #250 lawhawk
The key is remembering which side faces away from you. /
Now "Cooking with Explosives" would possibly be an interesting book. I'd need to look for the comic I saw where a character commented on how their mother (a combat engineer) had used to cook breakfast and they had the shrapnel scars to prove it.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:11:04am |
re: #252 Killgore Trout
that's 6 grams per slice.
the entire pizza has 36 grams of sugar!
that nine teaspoons of sugar in a pizza. It's insane and in no way normal.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:11:50am |
re: #250 lawhawk
The key is remembering which side faces away from you. /
Which applies to both the modern and ancient claymore.
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Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:11:57am |
re: #249 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
I got the impression from Alton Brown that mincing with a claymore was an arduous process, and possibly not that safe for the modern kitchen.
/ ;)
He was probably using the wrong kind.
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Crimsonfisted Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:12:41am |
Watching that lady play that instrument reminds me of watching the kids text. I cannot get them interested in music! Maybe this is e instrument they should try!
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:12:59am |
re: #248 lawhawk
It's the power of the sugar lobby at work too.
In the recent ag bill that made its way through the Senate, protection of US sugar producers are still in there, even though everyone claims to believe in "free trade".
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lawhawk Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:15:09am |
4 WTC should be topping out later today, weather permitting. It's the 977 foot tall skyscraper at the WTC that few are paying attention to because it's larger neighbor continues rising skyward, and development of 2 and 3 WTC are lagging behind, along with the museum and transit hub.
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kirkspencer Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:15:52am |
re: #224 Obdicut
Heh. Obesity is the crisis, diet is the source of the problem, and as for solutions, I can't actually think of any that would work. As with most of US problems, it's a cultural and educational problem.
Not completely sure I agree that diet is the source of the problem. I instead argue for the reduction of exercise being an equal offender.
Cooking is not the panacea either(and forgive me, Obdi, that's not yours. I'm running off another portion of this thread here for convenience.) In specific example I'm at about 240 lbs these days. I tend to [edit to add] AVOID things like sodas and other corn-syrup sweetened things. I cook almost all the meals in the house, and have for a long time -- and I'm not the only one who likes my cooking. I ballooned from 205 about three years ago when I quit doing much of anything physical, and am on the way back down because I increased caloric burn again.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:16:50am |
Let the challenges to "reasonable suspicion" as to citizenship begin. I think while Im in Tucson this week Im going to get a traffic citation and speak German to the officer and see what happens. Lets flesh out these "specific and articulable" facts a little.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:19:09am |
re: #243 allegro
Just one more small nitpick, an average fresh tomato has about 5 grams of sugar in it. If a pizza has tomato sauce along with other veggies like onions, green peppers, etc. a bunch of that sugar isn't added, it's just in the veggies.
I don't think the veggies count much for the sugar. The Veggie pizza and the cheese pizza have the same sugar content. I'd guess maybe 70-80% is just added sugar to accommodate American tastes.
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Schadenfreude 'r' Us Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:19:38am |
re: #248 lawhawk
But it also goes back to something I've been saying - soda makers will probably try to add vitamins and minerals to their beverages to get around a ban by claiming they're not nearly as empty calories as they were once deemed.
Hey, why not? It worked for the breakfast cereal industry. (It was several decades ago, but I still remember the consternation when it was shown that the "Breakfast of Champions" had about as much nutritional value as the cardboard box it was packaged in.)
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CuriousLurker Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:19:46am |
OT, but PG is in a fresh paroxysm of rage this morning over the following LA Times article, Jewish group cancels speech by controversial author Pamela Geller.
Apparently the SPLC is a "notoriously left-wing communist organization."
*lol headdesk*
On the not even remotely funny side, she included this graphic in one of last night's febrile rantings. Her hatred knows no bounds.
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:20:18am |
re: #260 kirkspencer
I'd say diet and lack of exercise compound with each other. It's ironically easier for me to work out now that I'm lighter than when I was heavier.
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allegro Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:21:03am |
re: #260 kirkspencer
Not completely sure I agree that diet is the source of the problem. I instead argue for the reduction of exercise being an equal offender.
Cooking is not the panacea either(and forgive me, Obdi, that's not yours. I'm running off another portion of this thread here for convenience.) In specific example I'm at about 240 lbs these days. I tend to things like sodas and other corn-syrup sweetened things. I cook almost all the meals in the house, and have for a long time -- and I'm not the only one who likes my cooking. I ballooned from 205 about three years ago when I quit doing much of anything physical, and am on the way back down because I increased caloric burn again.
I can attest to that as well. I started to gain weight when I moved out of my house into the motorhome. I no longer had a big house to clean, stairs to climb, and gardens to maintain. I hadn't realized how much physical energy those things required. What saves me now is my dogs. I have to walk them about an hour a day, rain, shine, and 100 degree heat.
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kirkspencer Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:21:12am |
re: #261 SpaceJesus
Let the challenges to "reasonable suspicion" as to citizenship begin. I think while Im in Tucson this week Im going to get a traffic citation and speak German to the officer and see what happens. Lets flesh out these "specific and articulable" facts a little.
Before you do this read the actual opinion. The court gave guidance on how the "show your papers" clause could be valid. This was a dual purpose guidance. First, to show why waiting for actual use was necessary before a challenge was made. Second, it was guidance to Arizona (and any other state) on what would be acceptable practice.
So what you should do if you're going into the state is see if they're following the supreme court's guidance when they demand (or not demand) you show your papers.
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wrenchwench Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:23:27am |
What in the world will Romney say about this in Ariz.? Maybe he'll keep it vague just in case. #betmylife— Sam Youngman (@samyoungman) June 25, 2012
Just read Romney statement. Zero idea what he thinks of ruling.— Sam Youngman (@samyoungman) June 25, 2012
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:28:39am |
re: #267 kirkspencer
Actually I did read the opinion, and I'd be checking not just for AZ's compliance with this decision but with others as well
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:32:38am |
@Atlasshrugs @JFedLA I made my first donation to JFedLA yesterday, in ur honor! #lgf #lgfpages #pushback #p2— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) June 25, 2012
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:36:32am |
re: #267 kirkspencer
Before you do this read the actual opinion. The court gave guidance on how the "show your papers" clause could be valid. This was a dual purpose guidance. First, to show why waiting for actual use was necessary before a challenge was made. Second, it was guidance to Arizona (and any other state) on what would be acceptable practice.
So what you should do if you're going into the state is see if they're following the supreme court's guidance when they demand (or not demand) you show your papers.
Did they write it in such a way that it hits our Alabama law and any other ALEC spawn?
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Michael McBacon Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:40:49am |
I've always loved the kalimba, grew up with a "hippie" neighbor in Minneapolis who had one.
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Michael McBacon Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:46:07am |
re: #270 Learned Mother of Zion
Did Pamz get wind of your donation?
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:47:03am |
re: #162 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
I find .NET amusing since I worked with VAX/VMS back in the early 90s with object libraries and LINK commands to build the EXEs - and you only had to copy the EXE around, not include 5 billion DLL files.
Only took Microsoft an extra decade or so to catch on the idea in a workable manner.
VMS, serious yummies. Better than Unix, almost as good as a LispM. I still have my distribution CD's for VAX and Alpha in case I get my hands on some real iron again.
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Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:50:10am |
Latest evidence from creationists that evolution is false: The Loch Ness Monster!
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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kirkspencer Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:56:29am |
re: #271 Decatur Deb
Did they write it in such a way that it hits our Alabama law and any other ALEC spawn?
Quoting: section D part 2 (breaks due to copying from pdf)
But §2(B) could be read to avoid these concerns. To take
one example, a person might be stopped for jaywalking in
Tucson and be unable to produce identification. The first
sentence of §2(B) instructs officers to make a “reasonable”
attempt to verify his immigration status with ICE if there
is reasonable suspicion that his presence in the United
States is unlawful. The state courts may conclude that,
unless the person continues to be suspected of some crime
for which he may be detained by state officers, it would
not be reasonable to prolong the stop for the immigration
inquiry. See Reply Brief for Petitioners 12, n. 4 (“[Section
2(B)] does not require the verification be completed during
the stop or detention if that is not reasonable or practica
ble”); cf. Muehler v. Mena, 544 U. S. 93, 101 (2005) (finding
no Fourth Amendment violation where questioning about
Cite as: 567 U. S. ____ (2012) 23
Opinion of the Court
immigration status did not prolong a stop).
To take another example, a person might be held pend
ing release on a charge of driving under the influence of
alcohol. As this goes beyond a mere stop, the arrestee
(unlike the jaywalker) would appear to be subject to the
categorical requirement in the second sentence of §2(B)
that “[a]ny person who is arrested shall have the person’s
immigration status determined before [he] is released.”
State courts may read this as an instruction to initiate a
status check every time someone is arrested, or in some
subset of those cases, rather than as a command to hold
the person until the check is complete no matter the cir
cumstances. Even if the law is read as an instruction to
complete a check while the person is in custody, moreover,
it is not clear at this stage and on this record that the
verification process would result in prolonged detention.
However the law is interpreted, if §2(B) only requires
state officers to conduct a status check during the course
of an authorized, lawful detention or after a detainee has
been released, the provision likely would survive pre-
emption—at least absent some showing that it has other
consequences that are adverse to federal law and its objec
tives. There is no need in this case to address whether
reasonable suspicion of illegal entry or another immigra
tion crime would be a legitimate basis for prolonging a
detention, or whether this too would be preempted by
federal law. See, e.g., United States v. Di Re, 332 U. S.
581, 589 (1948) (authority of state officers to make arrests
for federal crimes is, absent federal statutory instruction,
a matter of state law); Gonzales v. Peoria, 722 F. 2d 468,
475–476 (CA9 1983) (concluding that Arizona officers have
authority to enforce the criminal provisions of federal
immigration law), overruled on other grounds in Hodgers-
Durgin v. de la Vina, 199 F. 3d 1037 (CA9 1999).
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 25, 2012 9:59:31am |
re: #273 Michael McBacon
Did Pamz get wind of your donation?
I had JFedLA send her an email! And of course Teh Tweetz!
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Interesting Times Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:00:01am |
re: #268 wrenchwench
I will respond to the Arizona immigration decision as soon as my campaign donors tell me what my position is. #SCOTUS— Willard Mitt Romney (@MlTTR0MNEY) June 25, 2012
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Kragar Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:01:26am |
Liberty Counsel: True Science Always Reinforces the Bible
Today's episode of Liberty Counsel's "Faith and Freedom" radio program featured Steve Crampton and Harry Mihet praising the roundly criticized study by Mark Regnerus on gay parenting, calling it a "blockbuster" that "blows the lid" off of the claims that kids are not damaged by being raised in gay households.
But mainly Crampton and Mihet hailed the study for confirming both common sense and the Bible because, as Crampton said "true science always seems to me to reinforce and strengthen what the Scripture tells us from the start":
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:01:30am |
Syrian general said to defect to Turkey
BEIRUT (AP) - A Turkish Foreign Ministry official says a Syrian brigadier general defected to Turkey in recent days. If confirmed, it would be one of the highest level defections from the regime since the Syrian uprising began in March 2011.
Thousands of soldiers have defected from the Syrian regime, but most are low-level conscripts. The rebel Free Syrian Army, whose leadership is based in Turkey, is made up largely of defectors who want to bring down President Bashar Assad's regime by force of arms.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:02:05am |
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:02:59am |
re: #276 kirkspencer
Thanks--looks like AL would have a trip to DC on its own. Our state boasts that its ALEC version is 'toughest in the nation'.
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dragonath Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:05:15am |
Anyone think Justice Kennedy is worse than Thomas or Alito? In the two years since the original ruling there have been multiple precedents showing that unlimited money corrupts politics, but he ignores it because it would end up proving his rationale wrong.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:08:02am |
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iossarian Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:12:21am |
re: #285 Kragar
Bank CEO Pay Grew By 12 Percent Last Year, While Worker Wages Near All-Time Lows
Yeah but Jimmy Carter, so vote Republican.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:17:47am |
Imagine this guy in the House...
Top Democrats scramble to stop Charles Barron
Prominent New York Democrats have belatedly come to realize something the Hakeem Jeffries campaign already knew: Former Black Panther and New York City Councilman Charles Barron is a formidable opponent.
And now, the rush is on to stop him. Whether it’s too little, too late — or whether Barron turns out to be less of a threat to win than his antagonists feared — will become clear Tuesday night in New York’s primary.
...Press reports have described the campaign as “surging,” and the possibility that low voter turnout will play to Barron’s benefit has raised the blood pressure of the Democratic establishment.
“We always have taken Charles Barron seriously,” said Jeffries spokeswoman Lupe Todd. “What I don’t agree with is the notion that he is surging; there’s just no evidence of it.”
...Much of the movement against Barron stems from his past incendiary rhetoric. He once called the Israeli government “the biggest terrorist in the world,” and he has likened the situation in Gaza to a “concentration death camp.” He has praised Muammar Qadhafi as a “freedom fighter” and brought Zimbabwe’s controversial President Robert Mugabe to New York City Hall.
These days, though, Barron doesn’t want to talk about any of that. “I’ve said what I have to say,” Barron responded Friday when asked about his comments.
If Barron was looking to move beyond the controversy, an endorsement last week from former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke didn’t help.
On Tuesday I assume New Yokers in his district are smarter than that.
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Eventual Carrion Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:19:09am |
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RadicalModerate Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:20:48am |
Just saw on CNN interview with Sheriff Joe "Stormfront" Arpaio that he's going to continue to enforce the Arizona Immigration law as written, and ignore the US Supreme Court decision that bans things like "papers please" ID checks.
[Link: cnn.com...]
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:20:50am |
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Kragar Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:25:23am |
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lawhawk Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:25:52am |
re: #287 NJDhockeyfan
Assume nothing and there had been widespread opposition to Barron from the get-go. However, consider that the main motivating issue for the union support is that Barron opposes charter schools while Jeffries supports. That trumps everything else Barron has said and done as far as the unions are concerned (DC37; UFT has gone neutral in the race). Unions are a huge GOTV operation, so they could sway the election more than a bunch of politicians come out in support of his opponent.
So, despite a track record of anti Semitic craziness and statements in support of the likes of Khadafi and Mugabe, the district that includes a sizeable Jewish population may end up voting in Barron on the basis of whether the union can get out the vote more than Jeffries' supporters.
Jeffries should win, but it will be a whole lot closer than it should otherwise be.
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lawhawk Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:27:41am |
re: #289 RadicalModerate
Ah, so he'll find another way to waste taxpayer money - both in his half-assed law enforcement actions, subsequent investigations into his illegalities, and court actions to figure out what he'd gone and done.
All in a state that has serious financial troubles.
But blaming the illegal aliens trumps logic, reasoning, and most importantly, the law.
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RadicalModerate Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:45:10am |
re: #293 lawhawk
Ah, so he'll find another way to waste taxpayer money - both in his half-assed law enforcement actions, subsequent investigations into his illegalities, and court actions to figure out what he'd gone and done.
All in a state that has serious financial troubles.
But blaming the illegal aliens trumps logic, reasoning, and most importantly, the law.
I'm really hoping that the next time that he does one of his home invasions under the guise of "checking immigration status", that the FBI comes in to arrest his racist ass.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:49:28am |
This guy should be able to get a high level position in Charles Barron's office.
"Anti-Semitic Elmo" Handcuffed, Removed By Ambulance From New York's Central Park
A man who haunts Central Park dressed as Elmo, the lovable Sesame Street character, was handcuffed by New York City cops yesterday and whisked away in an ambulance after he launched into one of his trademark anti-Semitic rants.
The unidentified man, who police say was not arrested, was removed from the vicinity of the Central Park Zoo, where he has alternately posed for photos with park visitors, screamed curses, and launched into diatribes about assorted Jewish conspiracies.
For instance, last week the man was filmed loudly complaining that he was not making money because “the Jewish cops” were harassing him. He also suggested that parkgoers read “The International Jew,” a notorious series of anti-Semitic pamphlets distributed about 90 years ago by the auto magnate Henry Ford.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:55:20am |
Damn, I was hoping my comments about sugar in pizza would land me on the bottom comments list. I am disappoint.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:56:27am |
re: #297 Killgore Trout
You could always try the Jimmy Carter ploy.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:56:36am |
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Kragar Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:56:54am |
Barton: Christians who Criticize Me are Just Parroting their Secular Professor
Today on his radio program, Barton said he expects to be attacked by groups like us and Americans United and Media Matters because we all "hate God" but said he was surprised to get criticism from Christians and attributed that criticism to the fact that these Christians must have gotten their information from secular professors and are now just "parroting what they heard":
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:57:11am |
re: #298 freetoken
You could always try the Jimmy Carter ploy.
I tried that earlier too. I losing my mojo.
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dragonath Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:57:14am |
re: #296 NJDhockeyfan
Everybody knows democrats are really all black panthers and anti-semites with a penchant for kinky costuming.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 25, 2012 10:57:43am |
re: #299 Killgore Trout
Syria fires at second Turkish plane, deputy prime minister says
Yeah, keep fucking with the Turks. Its not like that has ever gone badly for anyone.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jun 25, 2012 11:00:30am |
re: #303 Kragar
Yeah, keep fucking with the Turks. Its not like that has ever gone badly for anyone.
If Turkey fires back, will Iran somehow get involved?
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 11:00:36am |
re: #301 Killgore Trout
I tried that earlier too. I losing my mojo.
Try celebrating women getting assaulted again. That's always good for it. Maybe a wife-beating joke.
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wrenchwench Mon, Jun 25, 2012 11:00:42am |
re: #301 Killgore Trout
Try Jimmy Carter with sugar on top.
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lawhawk Mon, Jun 25, 2012 11:01:19am |
re: #299 Killgore Trout
It wasn't just firing on a Turkish plane - it was firing on one of the Turkish search and rescue aircraft looking for the crew of the downed plane. The Syrians stopped firing after getting a warning from Turkey.
Those trigger happy Syrians are going to get a taste of their own medicine before long if this keeps up. We'll see just how brave they are when they start taking return fire.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Jun 25, 2012 11:02:40am |
re: #300 Kragar
Barton: Christians who Criticize Me are Just Parroting their Secular Professor
Heh paranoid much BArton.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 11:02:53am |
No surprise here: Darrell Issa: Tougher Gun Laws May Have Been Aim of ‘Fast and Furious’
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 11:03:11am |
re: #305 Obdicut
Try celebrating women getting assaulted again. That's always good for it. Maybe a wife-beating joke.
Outrageous!
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Kragar Mon, Jun 25, 2012 11:03:34am |
re: #307 lawhawk
It wasn't just firing on a Turkish plane - it was firing on one of the Turkish search and rescue aircraft looking for the crew of the downed plane. The Syrians stopped firing after getting a warning from Turkey.
Those trigger happy Syrians are going to get a taste of their own medicine before long if this keeps up. We'll see just how brave they are when they start taking return fire.
They've been gunning down civilians for so long, they've forgotten sometimes people shoot back.
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 11:05:50am |
re: #310 Killgore Trout
Outrageous!
Well, yeah. Being amused by women getting assaulted is outrageous. More creepy, but also outrageous.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 25, 2012 11:09:20am |
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Achilles Tang Mon, Jun 25, 2012 11:09:31am |
re: #288 RayFerd
What did the bible say about GPS and satellites?
True science? Not Science?
Of course the bible says what is true./ Such a self satisfying and self validating philosophy.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 11:09:48am |
re: #310 Killgore Trout
Outrageous!
It's too hot outside
Can't we have some nice INrageous time? I have the air conditioning set just right!
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 25, 2012 11:10:00am |
re: #311 Kragar
They've been gunning down civilians for so long, they've forgotten sometimes people shoot back.
Firing on a search and rescue plane is a war crime, I think. They can add that to their list.
That made me think of Sergey; has anyone seen him? I'm honestly slightly worried that after he announced Putin's goons were actively investigating opponents, going to their apartments and searching and stuff, he's not been back.
[Link: articles.chicagotribune.com...]
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 25, 2012 11:11:20am |
re: #313 Killgore Trout
It seems OWS is the only thing that works.
We could try selling this fight on pay per view to liven things up
[Link: blogs.denverpost.com...]
Maxine Waters to Tea Party: Let’s get it on
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Kragar Mon, Jun 25, 2012 11:12:50am |
re: #316 Obdicut
Firing on a search and rescue plane is a war crime, I think. They can add that to their list.
That made me think of Sergey; has anyone seen him? I'm honestly slightly worried that after he announced Putin's goons were actively investigating opponents, going to their apartments and searching and stuff, he's not been back.
[Link: articles.chicagotribune.com...]
I think the planes would need to have visible markings such as the red crescent or red cross for it to be considered a war crime.
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kirkspencer Mon, Jun 25, 2012 11:43:25am |
re: #297 Killgore Trout
Damn, I was hoping my comments about sugar in pizza would land me on the bottom comments list. I am disappoint.
You forgot the pineapple.
//
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jun 25, 2012 12:15:15pm |
Ok, so I just finished watching the full documentary thru Amazon (free with Prime Membership). OMG! So worth watching even if you have to pay for it.
I had to pause several times to write this down:
"Those of you who can raise children,
You should Thank G-d.
Because many people produce children
But fail to raise them.
For me, my father didn't know
that he will leave one time.
Father, you should have been there
to see what I have done for the world.
Death has made us suffer.
Death is counting our ribs.
Death, which use to be for the chickens,
is now among us."
-Walusimbi Nsimbambi Haruna
Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ...
Cheechako
Alone in a Bathroom: The Fear and Uncertainty of a Post-Roe Medication Abortion Angel tucked two white pills into each side of her mouth, bracing herself as they began to dissolve. Her deepest fears and anxieties took over. Angel had wanted to talk to a doctor before she took the pills to ... Cheechako
They Were Desperate to Get Pregnant. Then IVF Gave Them Extra Embryos. One morning last spring, Ashley Harrolle put her 1-year-old daughter down for a nap and went to the kitchen. She pulled up her fertility clinic’s contact information. It was time to make the call. In a freezer several hundred ... CheechakoJoe Bacon ✅
March FavoritesYou've seen these all already but looking back, just because. These are my favorite shots of this last month. That 1937 Zeiss Sonnar is such a gloriously wonderful bit of glass. Thanks for looking.
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Russia’s New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka When we landed on the moon, I thought about how science fiction had become real. Now, the robot wars have begun. It's more poignant somehow on the ground than in the missile wars we have in the air as ...
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Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... CheechakoKGxvi
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ... Cheechako
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
