Texas GOP Releases Platform, Goes Full Wingnut

The Texas GOP is opposed to critical thinking
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You can find the complete text of the Texas Republican Party’s 2012 platform here. Reading through it, here are some of the best bits:

2. The sanctity of human life, created in the image of God, which should be protected from fertilization to natural death.

7. Having an educated population, with parents having the freedom of choice for the education of their children.

9. A free enterprise society unencumbered by government interference or subsidies.

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.

Voter Rights Act – We urge that the Voter Rights Act of 1965 codified and updated in 1973 be repealed and not reauthorized.

Immunizations ― All adult citizens should have the legal right to conscientiously choose which vaccines are administered to themselves or their minor children without penalty for refusing a vaccine. We oppose any effort by any authority to mandate such vaccines or any medical database that would contain personal records of citizens without their consent.

Controversial Theories – We support objective teaching and equal treatment of all sides of scientific theories. We believe theories such as life origins and environmental change should be taught as challengeable scientific theories subject to change as new data is produced. Teachers and students should be able to discuss the strengths and weaknesses of these theories openly and without fear of retribution or discrimination of any kind.

Limited Federal Powers –We strongly support state sovereignty reserved under the Tenth Amendment and oppose mandates beyond the scope of federal authority, as defined in the U.S. Constitution. We further support abolition of federal agencies involved in activities not originally delegated to the federal government under a strict interpretation of the U.S. Constitution.

Law Enforcement - We support limitation of criminal jurisdiction of federal law-enforcement agencies into state and local jurisdictions and encourage them to enforce the laws under federal jurisdiction. The states have the right to protect their citizens if the federal government fails to enforce their applicable laws.

Elimination of Executive Orders - We reject the unconstitutional use of Executive Orders and other mandates lacking congressional approval.

Protection from Extreme Environmentalists – We strongly oppose all efforts of the extreme environmental groups that stymie legitimate business interests. We strongly oppose those efforts that attempt to use the environmental causes to purposefully disrupt and stop those interests within the oil and gas industry. We strongly support the immediate repeal of the Endangered Species Act. We strongly oppose the listing of the dune sage brush lizard either as a threatened or an endangered species. We believe the Environmental Protection Agency should be abolished.

Free Speech for the Clergy - We urge amendment of the Internal Revenue Code to allow a religious organization to address issues without fear of losing its tax-exempt status. We call for repeal of requirements that religious organizations send the government any personal information about their contributors.

I encourage you all to read the rest.

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1 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:22:00am

Voter Rights Act – We urge that the Voter Rights Act of 1965 codified and updated in 1973 be repealed and not reauthorized.

2 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:30:10am

We get it. Minorities, religious and racial, should not vote or hold elected public office. Women are for breeding purposes only. Except for slave women - because they are chattel. Education is what my Evangelical preacher says it is. The Federal Government is full of Blacks and Jews and is to be ignored and eventually overthrown. blablabla.

Sheesh.

3 RadicalModerate  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:30:53am

re: #1 Kragar

Voter Rights Act – We urge that the Voter Rights Act of 1965 codified and updated in 1973 be repealed and not reauthorized.

The Texas GOP wants to see a return to literacy tests, and I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to take a shot at overturning the 24th Amendment, given that they didn't ratify it until 2009, and might be having second thoughts.

4 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:32:15am

re: #3 RadicalModerate

The Texas GOP wants to see a return to literacy tests, and I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to take a shot at overturning the 24th Amendment, given that they didn't ratify it until 2009, and might be having second thoughts.

Ah, yes...the literacy tests. Questions (really!) like:
" How many bubbles are in a bar of soap?"

5 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:33:26am

Immunizations ― All adult citizens should have the legal right to conscientiously choose which vaccines are administered to themselves or their minor children without penalty for refusing a vaccine. We oppose any effort by any authority to mandate such vaccines or any medical database that would contain personal records of citizens without their consent.

Enjoy your pox kids!

6 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:35:53am

re: #5 Kragar

Immunizations ― All adult citizens should have the legal right to conscientiously choose which vaccines are administered to themselves or their minor children without penalty for refusing a vaccine. We oppose any effort by any authority to mandate such vaccines or any medical database that would contain personal records of citizens without their consent.

Enjoy your pox kids!

Leper colonies are a fun vacation spot! Whooping cough has a funny name! Chicken pox is only for birds!

*sigh*
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7 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:36:37am

Controversial Theories – We support objective teaching and equal treatment of all sides of scientific theories. We believe theories such as life origins and environmental change should be taught as challengeable scientific theories subject to change as new data is produced. Teachers and students should be able to discuss the strengths and weaknesses of these theories openly and without fear of retribution or discrimination of any kind.

Flying Spaghetti Monster and Cthulhu? Your day to be considered a valid scientific theory has come!

8 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:37:00am

Protection of life from fertilization until death? So where's the we oppose the death penalty and call for its immediate repeal? Also I like the executive orders be banned one because US presidents have issued executive orders going back to Washington's first year as president. Lot of gems here though.

9 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:38:35am

re: #7 Kragar

Where's Varek. The south Sith shall rise again.

There's no controversy there. The Sith are real, and among us. It's only a question of when they'll reveal themselves. /

10 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:38:39am

Gotta love the persecution complex. WE'RE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST!

11 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:38:58am

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.

Because we would never want anyone belief's challenged and them to actually be in danger of learning anything.

12 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:42:45am

re: #11 Kragar

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.

Because we would never want anyone belief's challenged and them to actually be in danger of learning anything.

re: #11 Kragar

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.

Because we would never want anyone belief's challenged and them to actually be in danger of learning anything.

Yikes man.

13 RadicalModerate  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:45:41am

Well, at least the official Texas GOP platform smoothed over some of the language of the Lubbock, TX version.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I'm sure that language like "One nation, one flag, one language, one loyalty." would have gone over really well nationally.

14 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:46:10am

Fairness Doctrine - We oppose any attempt by Congress or any federal agency to implement any policy comparable to the “fairness doctrine” as terminated in 1987.

Fairness Doctrine!!

15 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:46:13am

God must have a funny sense of humor.

16 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:46:45am
17 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:46:58am

re: #1 Kragar

Voter Rights Act – We urge that the Voter Rights Act of 1965 codified and updated in 1973 be repealed and not reauthorized.

I thought you were kidding about this.

Seriously, this platform is a joke, right?

18 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:48:25am

Down with logic!

Can we call them the Know Nothing Party already?

19 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:49:11am

re: #18 Gus

Down with logic!

Can we call them the Know Nothing Party already?

How about the No! Nothing! Party?

20 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:49:54am

Remember the days when conservatives and Republicans would like to try to use the Civil Rights Act's voting spread with more Republicans voting for the acts as proof that conservatives were somehow better on civil rights than Democrats and liberals even though practically every Democrat who opposed that legislation was a conservative and the kind of person that the southern strategy was made for. Yeah now we have state GOP platforms urging the repeal of such legislation. Awesome.

21 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:51:00am

It's the fucking dark ages all over again, and I'm right in the middle of it.

22 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:51:06am
Self-sufficient families, founded on the traditional marriage of a natural man and a natural woman.

As opposed to unnatural men and unnatural women....

23 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:52:41am

re: #22 Bulworth

As opposed to unnatural men and unnatural women...

You make me feel like an unnatural woman.

24 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:53:58am

United Nations – We support the withdrawal of the United States from the United Nations and the removal of U.N. headquarters from U.S. soil.

United Nations Agenda 21 -The Republican Party of Texas should expose all United Nations Agenda 21 treaty policies and its supporting organizations, agreements and contracts. We oppose implementation of the UN Agenda 21 Program which was adopted at the Earth Summit Conference in 1992 purporting to promote a comprehensive program of sustainable development projects, nationally, regionally and locally. We oppose the influence, promotion and implementation of nongovernmental organizations, metropolitan and/or regional planning organizations, Councils of Government, and International Council for Local Environmental initiatives and the use of American (Texas) citizen’s taxes to promote these programs.

25 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:56:00am

Census - We oppose the Census Bureau’s obtaining data beyond the number of people residing in a dwelling, and we oppose statistical sampling adjustments. We support the actual counting of people and oppose any type of estimation or manipulation of Census data. Only U.S. citizens should be counted for the purpose of adjusting legislative districts.

Gosh, I'd forgotten all about this "controversy".

26 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:56:52am

re: #22 Bulworth

Self-sufficient families, founded on the traditional marriage of a natural man and a natural woman.

Aren't those hippie terms, or is my memory failing me (again)?

27 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:58:02am

Unelected, Appointed Bureaucrats (Czars) - We decry the appointment of unelected bureaucrats, and we urge Congress to use their constitutional authority to defund and abolish these positions and return authority to duly elected officials, accountable to the electorate.

So, no Drug Czars then? GOP used to luv them some Drug Czars.

28 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:58:24am

Not hippies, Lou Rawls:

29 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 10:59:40am

re: #17 Bulworth

Seriously, this platform is a joke, right?

Sadly, no. It's very, very real. And it's why I would rather eat glass than ever vote Republican here in Texas.

30 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:00:29am

re: #26 Shiplord Kirel

Aren't those hippie terms, or is my memory failing me (again)?

I'm stumped by this. Maybe they have in mind the out of control problem of the millions and millions of unAmerican Muricans with sex changes getting married. /

31 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:00:49am

re: #26 Shiplord Kirel

Aren't those hippie terms, or is my memory failing me (again)?

You know, natural man and woman. Unlike those scary transgender folks who get sex reassignment surgery. We can't have them thinking they're normal or anything.

32 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:00:55am

They're definitely out of tune with Mitt on this natural man stuff as well. From the Book of Mormon, Mosiah 3:19:

19 For the natural bman is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam......

33 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:01:00am

re: #29 Lidane

Sadly, no. It's very, very real. And it's why I would rather eat glass than ever vote Republican here in Texas.

Yeah, I actually went to the Texas GOP website. Sigh.

34 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:02:05am

I'll be promoting this one in a few moments...

35 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:03:48am

re: #24 Kragar

Do they call for an audit of the Fed and a return to the gold standard? Also, are they full birther? I don't have the patience to read through it all.

I seriously can't wait for the national GOP convention. Their platform fights will be hilarious and frightening in equal measure.

36 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:03:49am

Constitutional Citations on Legislation - We urge that all bills presented in the U.S. and Texas Congress include citations to the authorizing constitutional provision, cost to implement, and impact on the family.

Except war authorizations. And we won't need those anyway once the GOP controls the executive branch. //

37 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:05:36am

re: #36 Bulworth

Constitutional Citations on Legislation - We urge that all bills presented in the U.S. and Texas Congress include citations to the authorizing constitutional provision, cost to implement, and impact on the family.

Except war authorizations. And we won't need those anyway once the GOP controls the executive branch. //

Really this is just more drivel written by legally illiterate politicians who have not even read the Constitution.

38 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:06:18am

re: #37 Ascher

Really this is just more drivel written by legally illiterate elected politicians who have not even read the Constitution.

FTFY

39 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:06:26am

re: #35 Lidane

Do they call for an audit of the Fed and a return to the gold standard? Also, are they full birther? I don't have the patience to read through it all.

I seriously can't wait for the national GOP convention. Their platform fights will be hilarious and frightening in equal measure.

I'm stocking up on popcorn for the convention.

40 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:06:31am

Washington D.C. - We strongly oppose making the District of Columbia a state or adding Congressional members.

Because shut up that's why. /

41 mr.fusion  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:06:49am
2. The sanctity of human life, created in the image of God, which should be protected from fertilization to natural death.

Ummmmmmm......do Texas Republicans realize that being strapped to a chair and electrocuted isn't a "natural death"?

42 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:06:50am

re: #35 Lidane

Do they call for an audit of the Fed and a return to the gold standard? Also, are they full birther? I don't have the patience to read through it all.

I seriously can't wait for the national GOP convention. Their platform fights will be hilarious and frightening in equal measure.

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Federal Reserve System – We believe Congress should repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. In the interim, we call for a complete audit of the Federal Reserve System and an immediate report to the American people.

43 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:07:43am

re: #41 mr.fusion

Ummm...do Texas Republicans realize that being strapped to a chair and electrocuted isn't a "natural death"?

Yes they do. That's why they are careful to say "natural death". They want to go on executin'.

44 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:08:22am

re: #40 Bulworth

Washington D.C. - We strongly oppose making the District of Columbia a state or adding Congressional members.

Because shut up that's why. /

Gee, I wonder why.

45 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:08:46am

Preservation of Republican Form of Government - We support our republican form of government in Texas as set forth in the Texas Bill of Rights and oppose Initiative and Referendum. We also urge the Texas Legislature and the U.S. Congress to enact legislation prohibiting any judicial jurisdiction from allowing any substitute or parallel system of Law, specifically foreign Law (including Sharia Law), which is not in accordance with the U.S. or Texas Constitutions.

Sharia Law!!

46 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:09:19am

American English - We support adoption of American English as the official language of Texas and of the United States.

YEEEEEEAHHHH fuck you, limeys!

47 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:09:27am

Do parents not have the right of choice of education for their children now?

My kids wish I would stay out of it. I choose: Toughest. Whatever the toughest choice is, that's the one you're doing.

I'm the meanest mom in the world.

48 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:09:29am

re: #45 Bulworth

Preservation of Republican Form of Government - We support our republican form of government in Texas as set forth in the Texas Bill of Rights and oppose Initiative and Referendum. We also urge the Texas Legislature and the U.S. Congress to enact legislation prohibiting any judicial jurisdiction from allowing any substitute or parallel system of Law, specifically foreign Law (including Sharia Law), which is not in accordance with the U.S. or Texas Constitutions.

Sharia Law!!

My my my Sharia!

/

49 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:09:54am

Reparations - We oppose any form of reparation.

Just because they can. /

50 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:10:54am

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Sound Money – Our founding fathers warned us of the dangers of allowing central bankers to control our currency because inflation equals taxation without representation. We support the return to the time tested precious metal standard for the U.S. dollar.

51 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:12:07am

By radicalizing every issue and dragging the dialogue into the far right corner of the spectrum (where they stand over it, drooling and growling) the GOP is making it impossible to discuss even remotely valid issues that they raise. Example: Public education is in pretty bad shape in some places. But you can't have a reasonable, outcome driven discussion about it because people like Jindal divert voucher funding to ACE.

52 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:12:30am

Remedies to Activist Judiciary - We call Congress and the President to use their constitutional powers to restrain activist judges. We urge Congress to adopt the Judicial Conduct Act of 2005 and remove judges who abuse their authority. Further, we urge Congress to withhold Supreme Court jurisdiction in cases involving abortion, religious freedom, and the Bill of Rights.

Jeebus.

53 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:13:04am

re: #4 celticdragon

Ah, yes...the literacy tests. Questions (really!) like:
" How many bubbles are in a bar of soap?"

A black lawyer goes to the voter registration center in the Old South. He is given a "literacy test"

"What was the worst maritime disaster in history?"

-"The sinking of the Tintanic," he answers.

"How many people died there?"

-"1,517," he answers

"Name them!"

54 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:13:11am

These are good too, because they're all in a row.

Flag Desecration - Any form of desecration of the American Flag is an act of disregard for our nation and its people and penalties should be established for such.

Flag Code – The U.S. flag code should be made into Law and not left to the sole discretion of the President.

Symbols of American Heritage - We call upon governmental entities to protect all symbols of our American
heritage from being altered in any way.

Confederate Widows Plaque - We call for restoration of plaques honoring the Confederate Widow’s Pension Fund contribution that were illegally removed from the Texas Supreme Court building.

The Confederate flag on federal buildings is a desecration.

55 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:13:13am

re: #22 Bulworth

As opposed to unnatural men and unnatural women...

It's saying trans people don't count even after gender reassignment.

56 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:14:20am

I got a thing on FB the other day wanting to repeal the 17th amendment. Seriously.

The 17th amendment, for those of you who don't have this stuff memorized, is Direct Election of Senators. It was passed primarily because someone got himself appointed a Senator by his state legislature by, effectively, buying it.*

It was decided that buying an entire population was harder than buying a legislature.


*In his defense, he said "I never bought a man who wasn't for sale."

57 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:14:55am

It's like the Iowa GOP Platform, namely a "Shake a stick, hit a loony" approach to a platform. Name a wingnut conspiracy theory or belief and you can be sure it's in here. And a lot of others that nobody in their right mind ever thought was possible in the 21st century.

58 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:15:07am

re: #53 Expand Your Ground

A black lawyer goes to the voter registration center in the Old South. He is given a "literacy test"

"What was the worst maritime disaster in history?"

-"The sinking of the Tintanic," he answers.

"How many people died there?"

-"1,517," he answers

"Name them!"

I told my class last spring about the "Bubbles in a bar of soap" thing. They were astounded.

59 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:15:39am

Voting Rights - We support equal suffrage for all U.S. Citizens of voting age who are not felons. We oppose any identification of citizens by race, origin, or creed and oppose use of any such identification for purposes of creating voting districts.

Voter Rights Act – We urge that the Voter Rights Act of 1965 codified and updated in 1973 be repealed and not reauthorized.

Felon Voting - We affirm the Constitutional authority of state legislatures to regulate voting, including disenfranchisement of convicted felons.

A little overdoing on the felon voter thing. So convicted felons aren't citizens?

60 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:16:58am

OK. Finally skimming this nonsense. So far:

Czars!

Religious freedom!

Drug tests for welfare!

Teach the controversy!

Judeo-Christian nation!

ACORN!

And yes, they DO call for a precious metal (i.e., gold/silver) standard for currency. WTF.

61 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:17:40am

Voter Registration - We support restoring integrity to the voter registration rolls and reducing voter fraud. We support repeal of all Motor Voter laws; re-registering voters every four years; requiring photo ID of all registrants; proof of residency and citizenship, along with voter registration application; retention of the 30-day registration deadline; and requiring that a list of certified deaths be provided to the election administrator in order that the names of deceased voters be removed from the list of registered voters.

And they're just getting started....

62 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:17:52am

re: #59 Bulworth

The renowned Christian ethics of grace and redeption!

63 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:18:15am

Note: I uploaded the full document to Scribd.com and embedded it in the post above.

64 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:18:44am

re: #60 Lidane

OK. Finally skimming this nonsense. So far:

And yes, they DO call for a precious metal (i.e., gold/silver) standard for currency. WTF.

I really wish they would leave the Jews out of this. The "Judeo" part of judeo-christian was dumped long ago by the evangelicals, in all but name. It makes me uncomfortable (as a Jew)

65 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:18:49am

re: #62 Be Zorch, Daddio

The renowned Christian ethics of grace and redeption!

You were found with weed in your car when you were 19. NO DEMOCRACY FOR YOU!

66 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:19:00am

re: #52 Bulworth

Remedies to Activist Judiciary - We call Congress and the President to use their constitutional powers to restrain activist judges. We urge Congress to adopt the Judicial Conduct Act of 2005 and remove judges who abuse their authority. Further, we urge Congress to withhold Supreme Court jurisdiction in cases involving abortion, religious freedom, and the Bill of Rights.

Jeebus.

Nutty.

The Judicial Conduct Act of 2005: This bill establishes standards for impeaching federal judges and Supreme Court justices. Of particular significance is the bill's definition of "high crimes and misdemeanors," which is a ground for impeachment under the Constitution, Article II, section 4. Among the impeachable grounds cited by this bill are: a judge's "usurpation of power," "disgraceful or indecent behavior," "use of the office for personal ends," making dictates or decisions "beyond the jurisdiction of the court in which the justice or judge serves," a judge's basing his/her dictates or decisions on actions of "foreign institutions, governments, or multilateral organizations (e.g., the UN and European Union), making decisions or dictates "inconsistent with the text of the U. S. Constitution," and relying on "precedent from previous Federal court decisions that conflict with or are inconsistent with the text of the Constitution

67 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:19:02am

re: #54 Be Zorch, Daddio

These are good too, because they're all in a row.

Flag Desecration - Any form of desecration of the American Flag is an act of disregard for our nation and its people and penalties should be established for such.

Flag Code – The U.S. flag code should be made into Law and not left to the sole discretion of the President.

Symbols of American Heritage - We call upon governmental entities to protect all symbols of our American
heritage from being altered in any way.

Confederate Widows Plaque - We call for restoration of plaques honoring the Confederate Widow’s Pension Fund contribution that were illegally removed from the Texas Supreme Court building.

The Confederate flag on federal buildings is a desecration.

Claim to love the US yet celebrate the CSA. No contradiction there whatsoever.

68 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:19:03am

re: #56 Mostly sane, most of the time.

I got a thing on FB the other day wanting to repeal the 17th amendment. Seriously.

The 17th amendment, for those of you who don't have this stuff memorized, is Direct Election of Senators. It was passed primarily because someone got himself appointed a Senator by his state legislature by, effectively, buying it.*

It was decided that buying an entire population was harder than buying a legislature.

*In his defense, he said "I never bought a man who wasn't for sale."

It was William Clark, the "Copper King" of Montana, whose buying of state legislators to get himself a seat in the Senate not only contributed to the 17th Amendment, but the creation of the Montana law that SCOTUS just shat on yesterday barring the use of private funds to influence state elections.

69 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:19:06am

Obama Shuts Down Crowd Booing Romney: "No, Mr. Romney Is A Patriotic American"

70 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:19:15am
Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs

Don't they realize critical thinking skills can be used to rebut communist propaganda too? Nah, they have the Bible for that.

71 DodgerFan1988  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:19:20am

"The sanctity of human life, created in the image of God, which should be protected from fertilization to natural death."

Exception for Trayvon Martin.

72 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:20:10am

re: #63 Charles Johnson

Note: I uploaded the full document to Scribd.com and embedded it in the post above.

At this point, I suspect that this platform will be nearly identical to the national GOP platform. Damn near every state platform so far sounds exactly like this.

The GOP has gone so far over the edge into batshit crazy that the edge is a blip on the horizon.

73 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:20:13am

Pornography ― We encourage the enforcement of laws regarding all forms of pornography, because pornography is detrimental to the fabric of society.

Less government! /

74 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:20:24am

re: #59 Bulworth

Voting Rights - We support equal suffrage for all U.S. Citizens of voting age who are not felons. We oppose any identification of citizens by race, origin, or creed and oppose use of any such identification for purposes of creating voting districts.

Voter Rights Act – We urge that the Voter Rights Act of 1965 codified and updated in 1973 be repealed and not reauthorized.

Felon Voting - We affirm the Constitutional authority of state legislatures to regulate voting, including disenfranchisement of convicted felons.

A little overdoing on the felon voter thing. So convicted felons aren't citizens?

This just in--they also have some exciting new ideas about what should be a felony.

75 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:20:48am

Other tidbits:

American English - We support adoption of American English as the official language of Texas and of the United States.

As opposed to Texan?

On marriage:

Marriage and Divorce - We believe in the sanctity of marriage and that the integrity of this institution should be protected at all levels of government. We urge the Legislature to rescind no-fault divorce laws. We support Covenant Marriage.

They'd rather bring back divorce for cause, loveless marriages, and making it difficult to escape bad marriages. That strengthens the institution of marriage? Really?

NY was one of the last states to get no-fault divorce. Now, Texas wants to go the other way?

On homosexuality:

We affirm that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society and contributes to
the breakdown of the family unit. Homosexual behavior is contrary to the fundamental, unchanging truths that have been ordained by God, recognized by our country’s founders, and shared by the majority of Texans.

Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable “alternative” lifestyle, in public policy, nor should “family” be redefined to include homosexual “couples.” We believe there should be no granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin. Additionally, we oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction or belief in traditional values.

Log Cabin Republicans? You there? Can you hear the love you're getting from your fellow GOPers? They don't respect you. They don't care about you or your rights.

76 erik_t  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:21:06am

re: #52 Bulworth

Remedies to Activist Judiciary - We call Congress and the President to use their constitutional powers to restrain activist judges. We urge Congress to adopt the Judicial Conduct Act of 2005 and remove judges who abuse their authority. Further, we urge Congress to withhold Supreme Court jurisdiction in cases involving abortion, religious freedom, and the Bill of Rights.

Jeebus.

But, y'know, adhere to the Constitution as written, and all that.

Separation of powers: how the fuck do they work?

77 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:21:13am

re: #66 Gus

Nutty.

Found that here. And of course this was in the preceding text:

The "Contract" calls for the restoration of the Judeo-Christian worldview in all these policy areas, through a variety of actions — new legislation by Congress, effective enforcement of existing laws; and constitutional amendment. Topping the list for immediate action are several bills. Here is a simplified description of four high-priority bills:

78 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:21:50am
Log Cabin Republicans? You there? Can you hear the love you're getting from your fellow GOPers? They don't respect you. They don't care about you or your rights.

lallalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalal

79 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:21:57am

re: #68 Targetpractice

It was William Clark, the "Copper King" of Montana, whose buying of state legislators to get himself a seat in the Senate not only contributed to the 17th Amendment, but the creation of the Montana law that SCOTUS just shat on yesterday barring the use of private funds to influence state elections.

You are correct. Seen Twain's comments on him.

Every time I see someone wanting the general population to have less voting power, I wonder what it is that the population won't do that they want them to do.

80 makeitstop  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:22:00am

re: #50 Kragar

Page 21

Sound Money – Our founding fathers warned us of the dangers of allowing central bankers to control our currency because inflation equals taxation without representation. We support the return to the time tested precious metal standard for the U.S. dollar.

My, God, if they ever got to follow through on that one...

There is not enough gold in the world to cover this country's economy. They'd kill about 30% of the US economy if they ever went back to the standard.

81 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:22:46am

re: #64 Ascher

I really wish they would leave the Jews out of this. The "Judeo" part of judeo-christian was dumped long ago by the evangelicals, in all but name. It makes me uncomfortable (as a Jew)

They have to say "Judeo" to include the Old Testament.

82 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:23:17am

OMG

The Texas Solution – Because of decades-long failure of the federal government to secure our borders and address the immigration issue, there are now upwards of 11 million undocumented individuals in the United States today, each of whom entered and remain here under different circumstances. Mass deportation of these individuals would neither be equitable nor practical; while blanket amnesty, as occurred with the Simpson-Mazzoli Act of 1986, would only encourage future violations of the law. We seek common ground to develop and advance a conservative, market- and law-based approach to our nation’s immigration issues by following these principles:

1. Secure Our Borders – The U.S. Border must be secured immediately! We demand the application of effective, practical and reasonable measures to secure our borders and to bring safety and security for all Americans along the border and throughout the nation.
2. Modernize the United States Social Security Card – We support the improvement of our 1936 Social Security card to use contemporary anti-counterfeit technology. The social security card will not be considered a National ID card for U.S. citizens.
...

Sure, why State ID cards are fine!

Hahaha. The TEXAS Solution!

I wanna Godwin this. So. Bad.

83 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:23:25am

As the bumper sticker says,

"I'll believe corporations are people when the State of Texas executes one."

A Texas football program (a corporation in all but name) did get the death penalty back in the 80s but that was the work of the NCAA and not the state.

84 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:23:26am

re: #59 Bulworth

Many states eliminate voting rights for convicted felons and/or greatly restrict voting rights, even after term of incarceration. In some respects the greater incarceration of minorities does more to disenfranchise than any other effort out there.

In Texas, a felon may have his or her right to vote restored after the term of Incarceration plus parole and probation.

85 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:23:29am

re: #80 makeitstop

My, God, if they ever got to follow through on that one...

There is not enough gold in the world to cover this country's economy. They'd kill about 30% of the US economy if they ever went back to the standard.

They're convinced that that's just proof that our currency is "over-valued" and that getting us back to the gold standard would get America's spending back to a "sustainable" level.

86 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:23:42am

re: #11 Kragar

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.

Because we would never want anyone belief's challenged and them to actually be in danger of learning anything.

Unless you/parents are teaching them tenets of Islam. Then their parents teaching and such need to be changed to the 'right' way of thinking.

87 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:24:57am

re: #69 Killgore Trout

Obama Shuts Down Crowd Booing Romney: "No, Mr. Romney Is A Patriotic American"

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Sorry, Romney couldn't hear what the President said. Some asshole in a bus kept honking his horn the whole time.

88 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:25:50am

9. A free enterprise society unencumbered by government interference or subsidies.

......

RU 486 - We urge the FDA to rescind approval of the physically dangerous RU-486 and oppose limiting the manufacturers’ and distributors’ liability.

double think plusgood.

89 makeitstop  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:26:10am

re: #85 Targetpractice

They're convinced that that's just proof that our currency is "over-valued" and that getting us back to the gold standard would get America's spending back to a "sustainable" level.

Either that, or the gold bugs want the price to go up to about $56,000 per ounce - which is what it would have to be in order to cover our nut with the gold in US reserves.

90 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:26:28am

On health care/decisions:

Immunizations ― All adult citizens should have the legal right to conscientiously choose which vaccines are
administered to themselves or their minor children without penalty for refusing a vaccine. We oppose any effort by any authority to mandate such vaccines or any medical database that would contain personal records of citizens without their consent.

Right, so when Texas gets its next outbreak of whooping cough, chicken pox, measles, mumps, or other wholly preventable disease because some group of Texan parents decided that they know more than health care professionals, who is responsible?

The GOP.

91 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:27:30am

It's a freaking Phyllis Schlafly platform.

92 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:27:39am

re: #75 lawhawk

Other tidbits:

As opposed to Texan?

As opposed to that foreign sounding British English. Heh.

NY was one of the last states to get no-fault divorce. Now, Texas wants to go the other way?

No fault divorce = people giving up instead of suffering in a shitty marriage like God intended for the rest of us!

I wish I was kidding. That's basically what it amounts to.

93 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:27:39am

re: #81 Mostly sane, most of the time.

They have to say "Judeo" to include the Old Testament.

Ideological fig leaf.

94 mikec6666  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:27:42am

This is the stupidest fucking platform ever written.

95 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:27:48am

Basically, the Texas GOP loves itself some 1950s. Can't get enough.

96 Jack Burton  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:28:30am

Oh, GOP... Dear GOP, you are so mercifully free of the ravages of intelligence.

97 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:28:34am

Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) - We oppose this act through which the federal government would coerce religious business owners and employees to violate their own beliefs and principles by affirming what they consider to be sinful and sexually immoral behavior.

But if a private citizen wants to exercise their beliefs and it doesn't fall in line with what we say, they're shit out of luck.

98 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:28:44am

re: #94 mikec6666

This is the stupidest fucking platform ever written.

This is a reflection of the 2012 Republican party.

99 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:28:44am

re: #90 lawhawk

On health care/decisions:

Right, so when Texas gets its next outbreak of whooping cough, chicken pox, measles, mumps, or other wholly preventable disease because some group of Texan parents decided that they know more than health care professionals, who is responsible?

The GOP.

Do you know who it is that spreads whooping cough?

1. Immigrants from countries without good vaccination programs.

2. Adults whose vaccinations have expired.

So, if you are reading this: when was your last DTP booster? I'm not kidding.

100 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:28:47am

re: #90 lawhawk

On health care/decisions:

Right, so when Texas gets its next outbreak of whooping cough, chicken pox, measles, mumps, or other wholly preventable disease because some group of Texan parents decided that they know more than health care professionals, who is responsible?

The GOP.

That's the problem with anti-vaxxers. BY refusing to vaccinate themselves or their kids they put everyone at risk.

101 allegro  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:29:04am

re: #66 Gus

The Judicial Conduct Act of 2005: This bill establishes standards for impeaching federal judges and Supreme Court justices. Of particular significance is the bill's definition of "high crimes and misdemeanors," which is a ground for impeachment under the Constitution, Article II, section 4. Among the impeachable grounds cited by this bill are: a judge's "usurpation of power," "disgraceful or indecent behavior," "use of the office for personal ends," making dictates or decisions "beyond the jurisdiction of the court in which the justice or judge serves,"...

So this kicks out Alito and Thomas, maybe Roberts. Is this really what they had in mind?

102 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:29:54am

This is interesting too:

Create an Effective and Efficient Temporary Worker Program – A national Temporary Worker Program should be implemented to bring skilled and unskilled workers into the United States for temporary periods of time when no U.S. workers are currently available. The program should also require:
• Self-funding through participation fees and fines;
• Applicants must pass a full criminal background check;
• Applicants with prior immigration violations would only qualify for the program if they paid the
appropriate fines;
• Applicants and/or Employers must prove that they can afford and/or secure private health insurance;
• Applicants must waive any and all rights to apply for financial assistance from any public entitlement
programs
;
• Applicant must show a proficiency in the English language and complete an American civic class;
• Temporary Workers would only be able to work for employers that deduct and match payroll taxes;
• All participants would be issued an individual Temporary-Worker Biometric Identification Card that
tracks all address changes and both civil and criminal court appearances as a defendant.

Liberty for me, but not for thee

103 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:30:18am

Let's see if Scribd document embedding works in comments, shall we?

104 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:30:36am

re: #92 Lidane

As opposed to that foreign sounding British English. Heh.

I wish I was kidding. That's basically what it amounts to.

I've spoken at length with a wingnut who believes no-fault divorce to blame for much of the downfall of society. He's a small-government Paulian who, at the same time, thinks the government should force you to undergo marriage counseling and force you to remain in your marriage, because the stats he believes say that single-parent households are tantamount to "child abuse."

105 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:30:41am

re: #103 Charles Johnson

works

106 Jack Burton  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:30:51am

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Si

107 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:31:11am

re: #94 mikec6666

This is the stupidest fucking platform ever written.

Iowa GOP: "We don't think anyone can beat this!"
Texas GOP: "CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!"

Now the other State GOP's are frantically rewriting their platforms to include EPA drones and removing executive privileges.

108 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:32:11am

Weren't we talking about this earlier:

Real ID Act - As the Real ID Act effectively creates an unconstitutional and privacy-inhibiting national ID card, we hereby call for its immediate repeal.

So, how does one prove citizenship?

109 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:32:12am

The re: #106 ArchangelMichael

Si

Es very good?

110 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:32:52am

Cognitive dissonance alert:

Judeo-Christian Nation – As America is a nation under God founded on Judeo-Christian principles, we affirm
the constitutional right of all individuals to worship in the religion of their choice

First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion

111 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:32:53am

re: #101 allegro

So this kicks out Alito and Thomas, maybe Roberts. Is this really what they had in mind?

They said it themselves: "We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs"

Their platform is proof.

112 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:32:53am

re: #108 ggt

Weren't we talking about this earlier:


So, how does one prove citizenship?

Everyone has to have a Texas driver's license. /

113 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:33:14am

re: #108 ggt

Service. /would you like to know more?

114 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:33:25am

re: #107 Kragar

Iowa GOP: "We don't think anyone can beat this!"
Texas GOP: "CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!"

Now the other State GOP's are frantically rewriting their platforms to include EPA drones and removing executive privileges.

And then they're gonna get to the convention, and the Old Guard's gonna shit a brick when it finds out that tacking Romney to the center and keeping the nutbars happy is virtually impossible.

115 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:33:40am

re: #108 ggt

Weren't we talking about this earlier:

So, how does one prove citizenship?

Everybody has to be a white member of a Protestant church

116 makeitstop  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:33:55am

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Let's see if Scribd document embedding works in comments, shall we?

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Now that is nifty!

117 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:34:08am

re: #108 ggt

Weren't we talking about this earlier:

So, how does one prove citizenship?

"I'm white, my parents were white, my grandparents were white, so I gotta be a citizen!"

//

118 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:34:28am

re: #81 Mostly sane, most of the time.

They have to say "Judeo" to include the Old Testament.

And it rhymes with "Rodeo"

119 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:35:00am

re: #115 Ascher

Everybody has to be a white member of a Protestant church

a conservative Protestant church. They think the liberal ones are heretical.

120 iossarian  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:35:11am

re: #81 Mostly sane, most of the time.

They have to say "Judeo" to include the Old Testament.

It's their way of pretending that they're really good pals with Jewish folks.

121 iossarian  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:35:51am

re: #118 Expand Your Ground

And it rhymes with "Rodeo"

Ha ha.

"Rodeo killed the Judeo star."

122 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:36:08am

re: #119 HappyWarrior

a conservative Protestant church. They think the liberal ones are heretical.

Hey, I think they are funny too. Oh, wait - heretical not hysterical. nvm

123 JAFO  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:37:20am

re: #120 iossarian

It's their way of pretending that they're really good pals with Jewish folks.

Actually I think they need the old testament to use against gays. Christ never talked about gays.

124 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:37:20am

What the fuck is this ass backwards shit?!

125 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:37:42am

If vouchers pass, my retired teacher friend and I might set up a whole line of alternate schools for children whose parents' values are out of sync with the public school system in various ways:

Mama Mao's Indoctrination Camp for Young Revolutionaries
The Brigham Young Memorial Academy for Children of Plural Marriage.
The Madalyn Murray O'Hair School of Atheist and Secular Studies (unlike public schools, this one really will ban Bibles).
The Timothy Leary Dropout Center for Altered Consciousness.
The Harvey Milk School of Texas
The William Tecumseh Sherman School of Military Logistics

Should be a lot of state money in this. No?

126 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:37:44am

re: #124 Varek Raith

What the fuck is this ass backwards shit?!

Today's Republican party.

127 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:37:53am

re: #123 Big Joe

Actually I think they need the old testament to use against gays. Christ never talked about gays.

You both are right.

128 Jack Burton  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:37:58am

Reading this is like what Maddox said about Loose Change... it's like being bukkaked with stupid.

129 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:38:07am

DAYYYYYY-OOOOOO

JUUUUUUU-DEEEEOOOOOOO

Whackos come and me wan go home

130 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:38:17am

The Ron Paul faction wins out:

Federal Reserve System – We believe Congress should repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. In the interim, we call for a complete audit of the Federal Reserve System and an immediate report to the American people.

Sound Money – Our founding fathers warned us of the dangers of allowing central bankers to control our currency because inflation equals taxation without representation. We support the return to the time tested precious metal standard for the U.S. dollar.

131 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:38:48am

re: #117 Targetpractice

"I'm white, my parents were white, my grandparents were white, so I gotta be a citizen!"

//

When did Texas actually become a country State?

132 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:38:52am

re: #124 Varek Raith

What the fuck is this ass backwards shit?!

A view into the mind of the modern GOP.

133 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:39:13am

re: #126 Lidane

Today's Republican party.

I thought it was somebody's crazy uncle that watches Fox News all day long.

//

134 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:39:43am

re: #130 lawhawk

The Ron Paul faction wins out:

They could peg the currency to the value of poop.

"How do you know he's the King?" "He must be the King. He's not covered in shit"

135 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:39:54am

re: #124 Varek Raith

What the fuck is this ass backwards shit?!

Modern conservatism. Can't wait to see what our state GOP platform looks like.

136 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:40:02am

re: #125 Shiplord Kirel

If vouchers pass, my retired teacher friend and I might set up a whole line of alternate schools for children whose parents' are out of sync with the public school system in various ways:

Mama Mao's Indoctrination Camp for Young Revolutionaries
The Brigham Young Memorial Academy for Children of Plural Marriage.
The Madalyn Murray O'Hair School of Atheist and Secular Studies (unlike public schools, this one really will ban Bibles).
The Timothy Leary Dropout Center for Altered Consciousness.
The Harvey Milk School of Texas
The William Tecumseh Sherman School of Military Logistics

How do I sign-up for the Timothy Leary one?
Should be a lot of state money in this. No?

137 JAFO  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:40:03am

re: #129 Be Zorch, Daddio

DAYYY-OOO

JUUU-DEEEOOO

Whackos come and me wan go home

The town of Rodeo, CA is pronounced like Judeo.

138 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:40:32am

re: #137 Big Joe

The town of Rodeo, CA is pronounced like Judeo.

Row-day-o

139 iossarian  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:41:17am

re: #123 Big Joe

Actually I think they need the old testament to use against gays. Christ never talked about gays.

Good point.

140 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:42:10am

On support of Israel:

Our policy is based on God’s biblical promise to bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel and we further invite other nations and organizations to enjoy the benefits of that promise.

The evangelical rationale... not necessarily for Israel's best interests or those of the region, but because religious doctrine dictates.

Where's that 1st Amendment again?

141 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:42:22am

re: #131 ggt

When did Texas actually become a country State?

1845.

142 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:42:48am

re: #120 iossarian

It's their way of pretending that they're really good pals with Jewish folks.

Jews don't get a vote on the use of Judeo-Christian because they rejected the Savior.

I wish the above were straight out fiction and parody...

143 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:42:51am

re: #125 Shiplord Kirel

If vouchers pass, my retired teacher friend and I might set up a whole line of alternate schools for children whose parents' values are out of sync with the public school system in various ways:

Mama Mao's Indoctrination Camp for Young Revolutionaries
The Brigham Young Memorial Academy for Children of Plural Marriage.
The Madalyn Murray O'Hair School of Atheist and Secular Studies (unlike public schools, this one really will ban Bibles).
The Timothy Leary Dropout Center for Altered Consciousness.
The Harvey Milk School of Texas
The William Tecumseh Sherman School of Military Logistics

Should be a lot of state money in this. No?

The General Santa Ana Reconquista Academy
The Timothy McVeigh Institute of Applied Chemistry

144 allegro  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:43:27am

For the purposes of contrasts...

2012 Texas Democratic Platform

Interesting reading.

145 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:43:31am

re: #140 lawhawk

On support of Israel:

The evangelical rationale... not necessarily for Israel's best interests or those of the region, but because religious doctrine dictates.

Where's that 1st Amendment again?

Seriously? They used the word "curse"? That's hilarious for a political platform.

146 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:43:53am

re: #123 Big Joe

Actually I think they need the old testament to use against gays. Christ never talked about gays.

Stephen Colbert made that point: Jesus was so aghast at them that he was SPEECHLESS!!!

147 Jack Burton  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:44:40am

re: #130 lawhawk

We support the return to the time tested precious metal standard for the U.S. dollar.

Translation: We want to reduce the US GDP by more than 60% at the expense of the poor and middle class. This is required to fulfill our unrealistic and wildly outdated Gold-standard fetish because current monetary policy is beyond our ability to work out on our fingers and toes and we'll be damned if we are gonna read a book or two about that shit. We also want doom the country to deflationary spirals, multi-decade long depressions, and eventual bankruptcy because the trade imbalance will no longer be offset by currency trading.

148 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:44:59am

re: #125 Shiplord Kirel

If vouchers pass, my retired teacher friend and I might set up a whole line of alternate schools for children whose parents' values are out of sync with the public school system in various ways:

Mama Mao's Indoctrination Camp for Young Revolutionaries
The Brigham Young Memorial Academy for Children of Plural Marriage.
The Madalyn Murray O'Hair School of Atheist and Secular Studies (unlike public schools, this one really will ban Bibles).
The Timothy Leary Dropout Center for Altered Consciousness.
The Harvey Milk School of Texas
The William Tecumseh Sherman School of Military Logistics

Should be a lot of state money in this. No?

There was a Brigham Young Academy. It became Brigham Young University.

And, yes, in the beginning years, children of plural marriages went there.

149 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:45:58am

re: #147 ArchangelMichael

Translation: We want to reduce the US GDP by more than 60% at the expense of the poor and middle class. This is required to fulfill our unrealistic and wildly outdated Gold-standard fetish because current monetary policy is beyond our ability to work out on our fingers and toes and we'll be damned if we are gonna read a book or two about that shit. We also want doom the country to deflationary spirals, multi-decade long depressions, and eventual bankruptcy because the trade imbalance will no longer be offset by currency trading.

Or, to put it more simply:

RON PAUL!

150 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:46:04am

They know that 100% of this is just what the Texas GOp supporters want to hear. Even if they succeed in passing only 10% of it into actual legislation, that is still way too much...

152 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:46:35am

This would be bad enough from a little band of cranks meeting at a local motel, but this is the party that ACTUALLY CONTROLS THE STATE GOVERNMENT as we speak.
We are in the hands of devils lunatics.

153 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:46:48am

More Ron Paul:

International Organizations – We support U.S. withdrawal from the International Monetary Fund, the World Trade Organization and the World Bank.

154 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:46:51am

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Let's see if Scribd document embedding works in comments, shall we?

[Embedded content]

Even worked in the Spy.

155 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:47:33am

re: #144 allegro

For the purposes of contrasts...

2012 Texas Democratic Platform

Interesting reading.

I perused it twice and didn't see anything about god and science. Was it in there?

156 Jack Burton  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:47:43am

re: #149 Lidane

I guess I could have just said:

Oh NOEZ! TEH JOO BANKERS!!!111!

157 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:48:29am

re: #148 Mostly sane, most of the time.

There was a Brigham Young Academy. It became Brigham Young University.

And, yes, in the beginning years, children of plural marriages went there.

Good, so there's even a precedent. There have also been Maoist indoctrination camps. These have not been funded by the state of Texas, at least not yet.

158 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:48:36am

re: #156 ArchangelMichael

Haha, pretty much. The whole thing reads like the deranged fantasies of Alex Jones and Ron Paul.

159 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:48:56am

re: #153 Be Zorch, Daddio

More Ron Paul:

International Organizations – We support U.S. withdrawal from the International Monetary Fund, the World Trade Organization and the World Bank.

Foreign Aid – We oppose foreign aid except in cases of national defense or catastrophic disasters, with Congressional approval.

160 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:49:07am

The convention is going to be fun to watch. Romney's going to have to defend alot of crazy crap that may be hard for even him to pander to like the Paulite crap.

161 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:49:51am

re: #159 Gus

Foreign Aid – We oppose foreign aid except in cases of national defense or catastrophic disasters, with Congressional approval.

I guess run-of-the-mill disasters don't rate.

162 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:49:57am

re: #160 HappyWarrior

The convention is going to be fun to watch. Romney's going to have to defend alot of crazy crap that may be hard for even him to pander to like the Paulite crap.

No, Romney is going to close his eyes, bend over and think about the White House

163 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:49:57am

re: #151 Big Joe

From the article:

“As awe-inspiring as Turkey’s friendship is, Turkey’s wrath is equally awe-inspiring,” Erdogan told the Turkish parliament on Tuesday.

Hehe.

OUR FRIENDSHIP IS TRULY AWESOME!

164 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:50:39am

re: #130 lawhawk

The Ron Paul faction wins out:

I initially read this as "Ron Paul fan fiction". And yes, that's exactly what this platform sounds like... *_*

165 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:50:40am

re: #159 Gus

Foreign Aid – We oppose foreign aid except in cases of national defense or catastrophic disasters, with Congressional approval.

Kind of contradicts what they said about Israel. But it's okay because they bless and don't curse it.

166 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:50:40am
167 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:50:43am

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel

Not hippies, Lou Rawls:

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Lou Rawls, meet Carole King.

168 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:51:21am

re: #163 Be Zorch, Daddio

From the article:

Hehe.

OUR FRIENDSHIP IS TRULY AWESOME!

We are your and our own best worst enemies, my friend. Open the gates of Hell!

169 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:51:32am

RESTORING INTEGRITY TO OUR ELECTIONS

Candidate Eligibility - A candidate running for office should be required to reside within the geographical boundaries of the office sought. The Secretary of State shall be required to certify that State and Federal Candidates placed on Ballots proffered in Texas meets the Statutory Requirements for the Office sought. A candidate must submit to the Secretary of State proof of qualifications for the office being sought, including proof of citizenship and in the case of a presidential candidate, an original or certified copy of a valid birth certificate.

170 allegro  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:51:36am

re: #155 ggt

I perused it twice and didn't see anything about god and science. Was it in there?

I think this covers it:

REFORM OF THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION
The Republican extremists steering the State Board of Education have made a laughingstock of our state’s process for developing and implementing school curriculum standards that determine what our students learn.

171 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:52:23am

re: #166 Varek Raith

Way to go Syria!

Turkey is likely to call for a 'solidarity' pronouncement at the next extraordinary NATO meeting

172 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:52:29am

re: #170 allegro

I think this covers it:

I think you are right!

173 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:53:36am

re: #169 Gus

RESTORING INTEGRITY TO OUR ELECTIONS

Candidate Eligibility - A candidate running for office should be required to reside within the geographical boundaries of the office sought. The Secretary of State shall be required to certify that State and Federal Candidates placed on Ballots proffered in Texas meets the Statutory Requirements for the Office sought. A candidate must submit to the Secretary of State proof of qualifications for the office being sought, including proof of citizenship and in the case of a presidential candidate, an original or certified copy of a valid birth certificate.

And there it is. The Texas GOP has officially gone birther.

174 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:53:46am

re: #169 Gus

RESTORING INTEGRITY TO OUR ELECTIONS

Candidate Eligibility - A candidate running for office should be required to reside within the geographical boundaries of the office sought. The Secretary of State shall be required to certify that State and Federal Candidates placed on Ballots proffered in Texas meets the Statutory Requirements for the Office sought. A candidate must submit to the Secretary of State proof of qualifications for the office being sought, including proof of citizenship and in the case of a presidential candidate, an original or certified copy of a valid birth certificate.

They must have clipped off the bit at the end that goes

"We will only accept birth certificates from white candidates, while black candidates will have to also submit to pressing until he admits he was foreign born."

175 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:54:13am

re: #169 Gus

RESTORING INTEGRITY TO OUR ELECTIONS

Candidate Eligibility - A candidate running for office should be required to reside within the geographical boundaries of the office sought. The Secretary of State shall be required to certify that State and Federal Candidates placed on Ballots proffered in Texas meets the Statutory Requirements for the Office sought. A candidate must submit to the Secretary of State proof of qualifications for the office being sought, including proof of citizenship and in the case of a presidential candidate, an original or certified copy of a valid birth certificate.

Um, you already have to live in the boundaries of the office you seek, at least officially. For Senators and Representatives and the President, that's actually in the Constitution.

The original birth certificates, I thought, don't actually leave the clerk's office. You always get a certified copy, or so I believed. Obama has already showed the world his certified copy.

176 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:54:42am

Unprocessed Foods ― We support the availability of natural, unprocessed foods, including, but not limited to, the right to access raw milk.

Eleventy!

177 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:54:47am

The Official GOP Party Platform in 29 Seconds.

178 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:55:10am

re: #176 Gus

Unprocessed Foods ― We support the availability of natural, unprocessed foods, including, but not limited to, the right to access raw milk.

Eleventy!

Oh geez.

179 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:55:30am

They should just be honest and re-title this declaration "stop trying to steal our thunder, arizona." its like some kind of winger arms race.

180 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:55:35am

re: #176 Gus

Unprocessed Foods ― We support the availability of natural, unprocessed foods, including, but not limited to, the right to access raw milk.

Eleventy!

Udderly ridiculous.

181 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:55:57am

re: #176 Gus

Unprocessed Foods ― We support the availability of natural, unprocessed foods, including, but not limited to, the right to access raw milk.

Eleventy!

If I'm not mistaken, raw cow milk leads to TB.

182 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:55:59am

re: #176 Gus

Unprocessed Foods ― We support the availability of natural, unprocessed foods, including, but not limited to, the right to access raw milk.

Eleventy!

No to vaccinations and yes to raw milk. For folks who spit upon the memory of Darwin, they sure want to prove the man right about survival of the fittest.

183 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:56:32am

re: #176 Gus

WTF is up with these guys and raw milk

184 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:56:38am

re: #182 Targetpractice

No to vaccinations and yes to raw milk. For folks who spit upon the memory of Darwin, they sure want to prove the man right about survival of the fittest.

Notice "not limited" to raw milk.

185 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:56:44am

re: #176 Gus

Unprocessed Foods ― We support the availability of natural, unprocessed foods, including, but not limited to, the right to access raw milk.

Eleventy!

because these people NO NOTHING of history. If they even read their own pedigrees (yes, I know) they'd see many people who died of "milk sickness". Gee, I wonder why that was?

187 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:57:12am

re: #180 wrenchwench

Udderly ridiculous.

Raw milk is gross. Actually, most milk is gross. I only use it for cooking. Left to my own devices, I'd rather have coconut or soy milk to drink.

188 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:57:25am

Uh oh. Catholic schools?

Foreign Culture Charter Schools in Texas – We oppose public funding of charter schools which receive money from foreign entities. We demand that these Charter Schools have accountability and transparency to local parents, taxpayers, the State of Texas, as do current public schools, including U.S. citizenship of public school trustees.

189 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:57:26am

re: #183 Be Zorch, Daddio

Because the ppl who drink it without succumbing to Listeriosis think it has magyckal powers of healing

190 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:57:32am

There is no passage about "maintaining the purity of our bodily fluids"?

191 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:57:34am

re: #181 HappyWarrior

I'm sure those Texans are really going to make sure their cows stay in a humane, healthy environment!

192 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:57:38am

Raw milk.
Why?
Seriously, why?
I don't get it.

193 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:57:44am

re: #101 allegro

So this kicks out Alito and Thomas, maybe Roberts. Is this really what they had in mind?

So in this 'stand your ground' era, they are threatening my life or are going to cause me physical harm, so I get to shoot them?

194 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:58:09am

U.S. citizenship of public school trustees?

195 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:58:23am

re: #188 Gus

Uh oh. Catholic schools?

Foreign Culture Charter Schools in Texas – We oppose public funding of charter schools which receive money from foreign entities. We demand that these Charter Schools have accountability and transparency to local parents, taxpayers, the State of Texas, as do current public schools, including U.S. citizenship of public school trustees.

No, Islamic schools and also Harmony schools. I had a page about that a while back

196 ShaunP  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:58:46am
Preserving National Security - We believe terrorism is a major threat to international peace and to our own safety. We urge our national leadership to:
• Protect and defend our Constitutional rights and swiftly wage successful war on terrorists
• Eliminate aid and cease commerce with any nation threatening us or aiding terrorists or hostile nations
• Publicly support other nations fighting terrorists
• Reasonably use profiling to protect us
• Prosecute national security breaches
• Revise laws or executive orders that erode our essential liberties

Profiling AOK, but don't erode our civil liberties while doing so? WTF? Are we sure this isn't from the Onion?

197 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:58:55am

Indefinite Detention - The Republican Party abhors any policies of indefinite detention of US citizens without due process. We urge Congress to terminate any practice of detention without due process.

198 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:58:55am

I demand that Texas GOP Party officials prove they aren't stupid.
GO!

199 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:59:18am

re: #188 Gus

Uh oh. Catholic schools?

Foreign Culture Charter Schools in Texas – We oppose public funding of charter schools which receive money from foreign entities. We demand that these Charter Schools have accountability and transparency to local parents, taxpayers, the State of Texas, as do current public schools, including U.S. citizenship of public school trustees.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

200 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:59:18am

re: #194 Gus

U.S. citizenship of public school trustees?

That line guarantees to me that there are school districts in Texas with resident alien members. Gee, maybe those people are interested in the quality of education their children are receiving?

201 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:59:18am

re: #187 Lidane

Raw milk is gross. Actually, most milk is gross. I only use it for cooking. Left to my own devices, I'd rather have coconut or soy milk to drink.

I skip milk and proceed directly to cheese.

202 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:59:26am

Maybe the Texas Republicans will curse the insolent Sun for their lack of water and crops next year.

203 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:00:12pm

re: #202 Be Zorch, Daddio

Maybe the Texas Republicans will curse the insolent Sun for their lack of water and crops next year.

Do not taunt Large Yellow Ball of Fusion!

204 erik_t  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:00:21pm

re: #201 Kragar

I skip milk and proceed directly to cheese.

Alas, I haven't yet figured out a good way to put cheese in my coffee.

205 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:00:24pm

re: #202 Be Zorch, Daddio

Maybe the Texas Republicans will curse the insolent Sun for their lack of water and crops next year.

God works in mysterious ways™©®

206 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:00:28pm

re: #201 Kragar

I skip milk and proceed directly to cheese.

Cheese is delicious. I have had raw milk, and I don't mind it. I acknowledge that it is a public health hazard, though.

207 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:01:00pm

re: #195 Ascher

No, Islamic schools and also Harmony schools. I had a page about that a while back

In practice. Of course in theory this would apply to any archdiocese with links to the Vatican. As well as effecting other religions.

208 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:01:00pm

re: #202 Be Zorch, Daddio

Maybe the Texas Republicans will curse the insolent Sun for their lack of water and crops next year.

Too many Texans skipped the Prayer rally. Next time, they will be forced to attend.

209 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:01:27pm

re: #183 Be Zorch, Daddio

WTF is up with these guys and raw milk

They probably have a pyramid scheme for selling it. I'm not kidding, an amazing percentage of the local GOP activists are eyeball deep in MLM operations of one kind or another, especially health supplements.

210 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:01:27pm

re: #201 Kragar

I skip milk and proceed directly to cheese.

Cheese is one of the greatest things ever. It's why I could never be a vegan. I refuse to give up things like cheese and ice cream. You'd have to pry them out of my cold, dead hands first.

211 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:01:34pm

re: #196 ShaunP

Profiling AOK, but don't erode our civil liberties while doing so? WTF? Are we sure this isn't from the Onion?

Basically, profile that guy with the Quran but don't suspect me of nothing because I have a bible.

212 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:01:37pm

re: #204 erik_t

Alas, I haven't yet figured out a good way to put cheese in my coffee.

I skip the coffee.

213 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:01:43pm

re: #183 Be Zorch, Daddio

WTF is up with these guys and raw milk

Raw Milk

The Weston A. Price Foundation notes this distinction about milk: pasteurized milk is processed and raw milk is fresh, unprocessed, and when consumed in its natural state is full of life producing enzymes and probiotics. WAPF believes that the pasteurization process destroys the nutrients as well as alters the protein structure of the milk. Their mission is to have raw milk sales legal in all 50 states and they do not want the government regulating its production.

Misleading consumers to think raw milk is safe

WAPF also professes that cows fed all-grass diets cannot harbor pathogens and that raw milk possesses the inherent ability to kill pathogens. They believe that if you know your farmer and the milk is not produced by a CAFO, the milk is safe to drink. This misinformation regarding raw milk leads well-intentioned consumers to believe that raw milk is safe to drink.

WAPF is organized in every state and their goal is to encourage raw milk consumption. Their website lists a multitude of illnesses that supposedly can be cured simply by drinking fresh, unprocessed milk. Infants and children are specifically targeted for consumption of this enchanted elixir.


Unfortunately, this generation has lost touch with one important notion: why was pasteurization implemented in the first place? We are far removed from the horrors that occurred 100 years ago. Raw milk seems an easy solution to many physical ailments and it seems safe because few children are currently dying from its consumption. But I know the horror of the risk one takes when consuming raw milk, intimately. Had my son's face-off with raw milk happened even 30 years ago, he would have died. Modern medicine and machinery (ventilators, kidney dialysis, blood, plasma and platelet transfusions, antibiotics, narcotics, intravenous nutrition and surgeries) ultimately saved his life.

214 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:01:50pm

re: #183 Be Zorch, Daddio

WTF is up with these guys and raw milk

BREAST FEEDING

215 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:02:32pm

re: #214 Learned Mother of Zion

BREAST FEEDING

Are you trying to start a boob thread???
/

216 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:02:44pm

re: #192 Varek Raith

Raw milk.
Why?
Seriously, why?
I don't get it.

They want to emulate the French? /

217 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:02:44pm

re: #204 erik_t

Alas, I haven't yet figured out a good way to put cheese in my coffee.

Just buy a French press and some decent coffee. You won't need milk (or cheese) for your coffee after that.

218 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:02:46pm

re: #208 Kragar

Too many Texans skipped the Prayer rally. Next time, they will be forced to attend.

Gleichschaltung!

219 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:02:59pm

Alex Jones!

Electronic Privacy – We believe all law-abiding citizens should be free from government surveillance of their electronic communications except in cases directly involving national security, by court order. Except for non-citizens, we further oppose any national ID program, including the Real ID Act and the use of Radio Frequency Identification Chips (RFID) on humans.

220 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:03:29pm

re: #210 Lidane

Cheese is one of the greatest things ever. It's why I could never be a vegan. I refuse to give up things like cheese and ice cream. You'd have to pry them out of my cold, dead hands first.

I thought dairy was ok because nothing died in the process.

Well, with most vegetarians anyway.

221 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:03:52pm

GMO Labeling - We support labeling of all products containing genetically modified organisms (GMOs), as well as cloned organisms, in a uniform and recognizable fashion.

222 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:04:10pm

Smart Meters - We oppose the mandated use of Smart Meters as well as the use of collected data to reduce freedoms of U.S. citizens.

223 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:04:11pm

re: #220 ggt

I thought dairy was ok because nothing died in the process.

Well, with most vegetarians anyway.

Some go as far as any animal based product.

224 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:04:34pm

re: #220 ggt

I thought dairy was ok because nothing died in the process.

Well, with most vegetarians anyway.

The animal was enslaved.

225 erik_t  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:04:34pm

re: #212 Kragar

I skip the coffee.

You know who doesn't drink coffee? Communists, that's who. I bet you like pineapple on your pizza, too.

226 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:04:40pm

re: #213 ggt

Oh cool, pseudoscience. No regulation. What could possibly go wrong.

227 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:04:42pm

re: #221 Gus

GMO Labeling - We support labeling of all products containing genetically modified organisms (GMOs), as well as cloned organisms, in a uniform and recognizable fashion.

I like that one

228 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:04:45pm

re: #221 Gus

GMO Labeling - We support labeling of all products containing genetically modified organisms (GMOs), as well as cloned organisms, in a uniform and recognizable fashion.

What about Romneybot 6000? We demand truth in advertising damnit! /

229 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:04:48pm

re: #222 Gus

Smart Meters - We oppose the mandated use of Smart Meters as well as the use of collected data to reduce freedoms of U.S. citizens.

If they switched the name to Jesus Meters, they would love them.

230 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:04:49pm

re: #203 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Do not taunt Large Yellow Ball of Fusion!

Solar fusion is a liberal/humanist myth, according to the A Beka Christian school curriculum (coming to a state supported school near you, if you happen to live in a GOP state).

231 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:04:49pm

re: #222 Gus

Smart Meters - We oppose the mandated use of Smart Meters as well as the use of collected data to reduce freedoms of U.S. citizens.

Lolwhut.

I give up.

232 erik_t  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:05:04pm

re: #217 Lidane

Just buy a French press and some decent coffee. You won't need milk (or cheese) for your coffee after that.

The mouthfeel just isn't the same without a bit of cream.

233 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:05:30pm

re: #225 erik_t

You know who doesn't drink coffee? Communists, that's who. I bet you like pineapple on your pizza, too.

YOU ACCUSE ME OF PINEAPPLE? YOU SON OF A BITCH!

234 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:05:33pm

re: #230 Shiplord Kirel

Solar fusion is a liberal/humanist myth, according to the A Beka Christian school curriculum (coming to a state supported school near you, if you happen to live in a GOP state).

I GIVE UP!
Wake me when this is all over.
Kthx.

235 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:05:54pm

re: #231 Varek Raith

Lolwhut.

I give up.

They're convinced that Smart Meters are part of a grand liberal plot to punish people for "too much" energy usage.

236 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:06:23pm

re: #233 Kragar

YOU ACCUSE ME OF PINEAPPLE? YOU SON OF A BITCH!

A natural born son of a bitch?

237 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:06:24pm

re: #192 Varek Raith

Raw milk.
Why?
Seriously, why?
I don't get it.

Because our Public Schools aren't doing a good enough job teaching bacteriology and history.

There is no "nutrient" being destroyed that is as good as e.coli is bad.

238 erik_t  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:06:37pm

re: #233 Kragar

YOU ACCUSE ME OF PINEAPPLE? YOU SON OF A BITCH!

75% of the letters in 'Nazi' are also in 'pineapple'. Coincidence? You decide!

.
.
.
.
(Texas proceeds to ban pineapple)

239 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:07:02pm

re: #235 Targetpractice

They're convinced that Smart Meters are part of a grand liberal plot to punish people for "too much" energy usage.

Again, critical thinking is a liberal plot to destroy the traditional family.

240 allegro  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:07:03pm

re: #220 ggt

I thought dairy was ok because nothing died in the process.

Well, with most vegetarians anyway.

Seeing laying hen operation put me off of buying commercial eggs. Horrific conditions, the most abusive thing I have ever witnessed. I get all of my eggs from a local farm where I know the hens are happy and healthy.

241 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:07:26pm

re: #238 erik_t

.
.
.
.
(Texas proceeds to ban pineapple)

You aren't going to start with the mystic number comparisons are you?

/:)

242 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:08:05pm

Returning Veterans – We support the accommodation and reintegration of our troops once their military commitment has expired. Returning veterans must have access to educational benefits, job training and a wide variety of employment options. The Veteran’s Administration must become more responsive and more efficient by eliminating its backlog and reducing waiting times for treatment. We support the privatization of veteran’s healthcare.

This should be shoved in the face of all of the veterans who rely on the VA.

243 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:08:13pm

re: #239 Kragar

Again, critical thinking is a liberal plot to destroy the traditional family.

That may have been the best part and that's saying something.

244 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:08:18pm

Survival seeds!!

Food Choice ― We support the right of individuals to make their own dietary decisions. We oppose any laws regarding the production, distribution or consumption of food. Government should not restrict non-genetically engineered seeds.

245 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:08:24pm

re: #236 Ascher

A natural born son of a bitch?

Do you know who you're messing with?

246 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:08:38pm

re: #240 allegro

Seeing laying hen operation put me off of buying commercial eggs. Horrific conditions, the most abusive thing I have ever witnessed. I get all of my eggs from a local farm where I know the hens are happy and healthy.

I buy the "good" eggs (which I don't really know if they are that good). I like the way they are packaged --almost impossible to crack them in transport. And lower cholesterol.

247 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:08:39pm

re: #241 ggt

You aren't going to start with the mystic number comparisons are you?

/:)

Can't spell GOP Wingnut without ggt

Stone the Troll!

248 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:09:15pm

re: #247 Ascher

Can't spell GOP Wingnut without ggt

Stone the Troll!

OMG!!!!!

249 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:09:30pm

re: #242 Be Zorch, Daddio

Returning Veterans – We support the accommodation and reintegration of our troops once their military commitment has expired. Returning veterans must have access to educational benefits, job training and a wide variety of employment options. The Veteran’s Administration must become more responsive and more efficient by eliminating its backlog and reducing waiting times for treatment. We support the privatization of veteran’s healthcare.

This should be shoved in the face of all of the veterans who rely on the VA.

But they love the troops!

250 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:09:35pm

re: #230 Shiplord Kirel

Solar fusion is a liberal/humanist myth, according to the A Beka Christian school curriculum (coming to a state supported school near you, if you happen to live in a GOP state).

I read that.
All of it.
My brain stopped.

251 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:10:12pm

re: #239 Kragar

Again, critical thinking is a liberal plot to destroy the traditional family.

Somehow, I think it would be ok if there were gender segregated schools and critical thinking was only taught to the boys . . . .

252 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:10:29pm

re: #102 Be Zorch, Daddio

This is interesting too:

Create an Effective and Efficient Temporary Worker Program – A national Temporary Worker Program should be implemented to bring skilled and unskilled workers into the United States for temporary periods of time when no U.S. workers are currently available. The program should also require:
• Self-funding through participation fees and fines;
• Applicants must pass a full criminal background check;
• Applicants with prior immigration violations would only qualify for the program if they paid the
appropriate fines;
• Applicants and/or Employers must prove that they can afford and/or secure private health insurance;
• Applicants must waive any and all rights to apply for financial assistance from any public entitlement
programs
;
• Applicant must show a proficiency in the English language and complete an American civic class;
• Temporary Workers would only be able to work for employers that deduct and match payroll taxes;
• All participants would be issued an individual Temporary-Worker Biometric Identification Card that
tracks all address changes and both civil and criminal court appearances as a defendant.

Liberty for me, but not for thee

Don't worry, they'll get to you soon enough.

253 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:10:42pm

4. Solar Fusion is a Myth

The sun, as everybody knows, works by nuclear fusion. Unfortunately, Creationists have a pet theory, outlined on pages 7-9 of Science 1096 (a PACE devoted entirely to refuting evolution, packed with misinformation and distortions of the truth). In short, Creationists want to prove that the sun is shrinking. If the sun is shrinking at a constant rate, then billions of years ago it would have swallowed up the earth. This, they say, proves that the universe must be young.

Unfortunately for them, the sun is not shrinking. That’s because, contrary to their assumptions, the sun is not a massive gas boiler gradually shrinking as it burns fuel. It’s a fusion reactor. This doesn’t fit their model, so they outright deny the truth:

The nuclear fusion theory of how the sun emits heat and light is an invention of evolution scientists… All other theories require the sun to use up all its energy sooner than the evolutionists’ invented timetable would allow.

254 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:10:47pm

re: #244 Gus

Survival seeds!!

Food Choice ― We support the right of individuals to make their own dietary decisions. We oppose any laws regarding the production, distribution or consumption of food. Government should not restrict non-genetically engineered seeds.

Yea, let's throw out the FDA while we're at it. Who cares what extras are mixed in with the beef and bread to extend it? Or that the drugs we buy are pure?
:p ///
The GOP has gone straight to plaid.

255 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:12:34pm

re: #253 Varek Raith

Link might help.
[Link: leavingfundamentalism.wordpress.com...]

256 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:12:39pm
257 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:12:44pm

re: #254 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Yea, let's throw out the FDA while we're at it. Who cares what extras are mixed in with the beef and bread to extend it? Or that the drugs we buy are pure?
:p ///
The GOP has gone straight to plaid.

Yeah. They want to get rid of the FDA while demanding that food be labeled for GMOs!!!11ty

258 erik_t  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:13:09pm

re: #253 Varek Raith

4. Solar Fusion is a Myth

The sun, as everybody knows, works by nuclear fusion. Unfortunately, Creationists have a pet theory, outlined on pages 7-9 of Science 1096 (a PACE devoted entirely to refuting evolution, packed with misinformation and distortions of the truth). In short, Creationists want to prove that the sun is shrinking. If the sun is shrinking at a constant rate, then billions of years ago it would have swallowed up the earth. This, they say, proves that the universe must be young.

People say they're speechless a lot, or that their jaw dropped, or whatever. This rarely actually happens.

It just happened.

259 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:13:32pm

re: #257 Gus

Yeah. They want to get rid of the FDA while demanding that food be labeled for GMOs!!!11ty

Dude, stop finding holes in their platform!
/

260 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:14:16pm

re: #219 Gus

Alex Jones!

Electronic Privacy – We believe all law-abiding citizens should be free from government surveillance of their electronic communications except in cases directly involving national security, by court order. Except for non-citizens, we further oppose any national ID program, including the Real ID Act and the use of Radio Frequency Identification Chips (RFID) on humans.

Except for non-citizens which means it's totally awesome on non-humans oops, I mean Illegals.

261 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:15:05pm

re: #260 Be Zorch, Daddio

Except for non-citizens which means it's totally awesome on non-humans oops, I mean Illegals.

Mexicans. Like I said before. It's all about Mexicans.

262 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:15:27pm

re: #261 Gus

Mexicans. Like I said before. It's all about Mexicans.

And dinosaurs.

263 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:15:37pm

re: #260 Be Zorch, Daddio

Except for non-citizens which means it's totally awesome on non-humans oops, I mean Illegals.

The Mark of the Beast is okay for subhumans I guess?

264 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:15:53pm

re: #262 Varek Raith

And dinosaurs.

Don't forget Nessie.

265 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:16:05pm

re: #262 Varek Raith

And dinosaurs.

And Mexican Dinosaurs.

266 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:16:06pm

My poor brain...

267 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:16:28pm

re: #262 Varek Raith

And dinosaurs.

Mexican dinosaurs?

268 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:16:34pm

re: #265 Kragar

And Mexican Dinosaurs.

If they get the masks can they become wrestlers?

269 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:16:34pm
Voter Rights Act – We urge that the Voter Rights Act of 1965 codified and updated in 1973 be repealed and not reauthorized.

At least they're being open about this now.

270 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:18:09pm

re: #268 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

If they get the masks can they become wrestlers?

Luchasaurus Rex.

271 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:18:14pm

re: #268 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

If they get the masks can they become wrestlers?

Luchasaurs?

272 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:18:58pm

re: #269 Bulworth

At least they're being open about this now.

"The easiest way for us to win elections is if we're the only people allowed to vote!"

273 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:19:36pm

re: #272 Kragar

"The easiest way for us to win elections is if we're the only people allowed to vote!"

It would reduce voter fraud to a minimum...

274 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:19:42pm

re: #272 Kragar

"The easiest way for us to win elections is if we're the only people allowed to vote!"

Worked for the Athenians.

275 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:20:04pm

re: #265 Kragar

And Mexican Dinosaurs.

Tyrannosaurus Mex

276 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:21:03pm

The fusion myth. Of course, the H-bomb works by a similar process though fortunately on a much smaller scale. Are the fundies saying we could make a fusion explosion and God could not? More likely, they think the H-bomb itself is a gummint hoax, like the Moon landings or relativity.

Can you imagine the effort it took to stack 10 million tons of TNT on Bikini Atoll and set it off to fake those tests? I ran some numbers. It takes 25 cubic feet of TNT to make a ton. The fake H-bomb therefore had a volume of 250,000,000 cubic feet of TNT, considerably more than was used in World War 2. That is a cube 630 feet on a side. Didn't anyone notice this monolith going up on the island or later ones in the Nevada desert? How was it held together structurally? Perhaps Alex Jones will have the answers shortly.

277 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:21:48pm

Did these people not get the memo --1/2 of all births in this country were to non-white babies (reported this year).

do they think they were ALL to undocumented mothers?

278 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:22:01pm

re: #275 Gus

Tyrannosaurus Mex

No.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
/Dino nerd

279 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:22:11pm

re: #277 ggt

Did these people not get the memo --1/2 of all births in this country were to non-white babies (reported this year).

do they think they were ALL to undocumented mothers?

Undocumented mothers and welfare queens.

280 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:22:20pm

re: #275 Gus

Tyrannosaurus Mex

...

A phrase coined by comedian Johnny Sanchez, relating to an older man of Mexican heritage who, during the process of aging, developed a stomach so large his arms seems to shrink in comparison, making him akin to a tyrannosaurus rex.

The term came to fruition through Sanchez noticing how as Mexican men age, they tend to morph into the description of Tyrannosaurus Mex with larger stomachs and seemingly smaller arms.

Hmm. Sounds like me.

281 erik_t  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:22:38pm

re: #276 Shiplord Kirel

Can you imagine the effort it took to stack 10 million tons of TNT on Bikini Atoll and set it off to fake those tests? I ran some numbers. It takes 25 cubic feet of TNT to make a ton. The fake H-bomb therefore had a volume of 250,000,000 cubic feet of TNT, considerably more than was used in World War 2. That is a cube 630 feet on a side. Didn't anyone notice this monolith going up on the island or later ones in the Nevada desert? How was it held together structurally? Perhaps Alex Jones will have the answers shortly.

Formulating the TNT necessary to appropriate distribute the appropriate short-lifetime radioisotopes is, of course, left as an exercise to the reader...

282 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:23:19pm

re: #277 ggt

Did these people not get the memo --1/2 of all births in this country were to non-white babies (reported this year).

do they think they were ALL to undocumented mothers?

Page 3 -

Census - We oppose the Census Bureau’s obtaining data beyond the number of people residing in a dwelling, and we oppose statistical sampling adjustments. We support the actual counting of people and oppose any type of estimation or manipulation of Census data. Only U.S. citizens should be counted for the purpose of adjusting legislative districts.

283 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:23:46pm

re: #276 Shiplord Kirel

They were all fakes.

Yeah, that's right - there are people who believe that the atomic bombs, the video footage of same, are all fakes.

284 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:24:26pm

re: #283 lawhawk

They were all fakes.

Yeah, that's right - there are people who believe that the atomic bombs, the video footage of same, are all fakes.

I'd like to see them say that in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

285 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:24:31pm

re: #283 lawhawk

They were all fakes.

Yeah, that's right - there are people who believe that the atomic bombs, the video footage of same, are all fakes.

A fake so well executed, it killed John Wayne.

286 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:24:40pm

re: #283 lawhawk

They were all fakes.

Yeah, that's right - there are people who believe that the atomic bombs, the video footage of same, are all fakes.

godlikeproductions

Derp.

287 erik_t  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:24:51pm

re: #284 Lidane

I'd like to see them say that in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Two hundred thousand people don't count as witnesses, on account of being dead.

288 allegro  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:24:54pm

re: #282 Kragar

Page 3 -

Census - We oppose the Census Bureau’s obtaining data beyond the number of people residing in a dwelling, and we oppose statistical sampling adjustments. We support the actual counting of people and oppose any type of estimation or manipulation of Census data. Only U.S. citizens should be counted for the purpose of adjusting legislative districts.

Because having to repeat the gerrymandering every ten years to ensure Republican forevah has become so tiring.

289 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:25:14pm

Totally fake.

290 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:25:33pm

re: #279 Lidane

Undocumented mothers and welfare queens.

IIRC, most of the "welfare" money goes to rural whites --no?

291 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:25:39pm

re: #283 lawhawk

They were all fakes.

Yeah, that's right - there are people who believe that the atomic bombs, the video footage of same, are all fakes.

Including faking out the entire nation of Japan during a war...

292 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:25:57pm

Oreo posts a picture of a rainbow cookie, Freep absolutely loses its shit

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

To: kingattax

Lets face it, gay is in these days. Gay is cool gay is hip. Anal-obsessed perversion is in, heterossexuals are out. Heterosexuals are boring old white guys and their women Freepers are hateful troglodytes. Freepers are relics who will be dead soon to make way for the new gay, multi-culti, mixed marriages America.......

The Muslims and the ChiComs can smell this weakness from miles away.


13 posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:18:18 AM by dennisw

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293 allegro  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:26:20pm

re: #291 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Including faking out the entire nation of Japan during a war...

Ha! Made ya look!

294 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:26:51pm

re: #283 lawhawk

They were all fakes.

Yeah, that's right - there are people who believe that the atomic bombs, the video footage of same, are all fakes.

the Earth is Flat and those sea monster artwork on the fancy maps are REAL!

295 Lidane  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:27:05pm

re: #290 ggt

IIRC, most of the "welfare" money goes to rural whites --no?

Well, yes. But don't tell the GOP that. They've got a good thing going by convincing the bigots that only drug addled brown and black people get welfare.

296 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:27:14pm

re: #291 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Including faking out the entire nation of Japan during a war...

Twice.

297 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:27:23pm

Of course the alternate tack will be to load out the Supreme Court and then overturn Reynolds v. Sims. This would allow the various states to go about creating their representative districts without having to care about proportional representation.

298 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:27:51pm

re: #292 SpaceJesus

Oreo posts a picture of a rainbow cookie, Freep absolutely loses its shit

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

Clearly eating rainbow cookies makes you gay.

299 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:28:03pm

re: #291 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Including faking out the entire nation of Japan during a war...

The Japanese were just paying the US back for letting them fake Pearl Harbor.

[Link: www.google.com...]

300 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:28:08pm

re: #283 lawhawk

They were all fakes.

Yeah, that's right - there are people who believe that the atomic bombs, the video footage of same, are all fakes.

And of course. The usual psychos: Nuclear bombs are a Jewish hoax like everything is

The Juice are behind the fake atom bombs!!11ty

301 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:28:29pm

re: #295 Lidane

Well, yes. But don't tell the GOP that. They've got a good thing going by convincing the bigots that only drug addled brown and black people get welfare.

feudalism --I keep returning to that theme.

302 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:28:45pm

re: #298 HappyWarrior

To: kingattax

Which color represents sodomy and which one is AIDS?


18 posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:22:59 AM by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)

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303 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:29:44pm

re: #298 HappyWarrior

Clearly eating looking at a picture of rainbow cookies makes you gay.

304 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:29:47pm
To: Sacajaweau

I’ve got 11 grandkids. None of them will EVER get an oreo from me or Gramma —— NEVER!


19 posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:23:30 AM by Walrus (Today's question: Why doesn't anybody talk about rocketing inflation at the grocery store?)

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305 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:31:13pm

re: #302 SpaceJesus

Does this mean the traditional Oreo is a celebration of an interracial 3 way sex act?

306 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:31:21pm

re: #304 SpaceJesus

Yeah. Good Grandmas bake their grandkids cookies from scratch.

307 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:31:33pm

re: #305 Kragar

yes. with obama no less.

308 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:32:09pm

People that think Jews are behind everything need to be hospitalized.

309 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:32:22pm

I'm not even going to try to learn about the No-solar-fusion theory.

My brain can't handle the stupid.

310 allegro  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:32:52pm

My weatherbug is showing 105 degrees. At 2:30PM. In June.

We're fucked.

311 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:33:02pm

re: #304 SpaceJesus

Walruses shouldn't be allowed anywhere near computers.

312 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:33:30pm

Testing Scribd embedding, using the URL of the doc's page at Scribd -- Songwriter's Monthly:

313 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:33:47pm

re: #311 Be Zorch, Daddio

Walruses shouldn't be allowed anywhere near computers.

Hmmm. We should put that in our state political platform.

//

314 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:34:27pm

re: #309 Mostly sane, most of the time.

I'm not even going to try to learn about the No-solar-fusion theory.

My brain can't handle the stupid.

But all scientific theories are equally valid and deserve to be discussed without bias..

Oh wait, no they don't. Some are demonstrably stupid and should be tossed out on their incoherent butts.

315 iossarian  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:34:52pm
Boycotts are a slippery slope.
When I started the store chain boycott list of FR, we ran out of places to shop pretty quickly.

Uncommon self-awareness from the right.

316 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:35:12pm
To: kingattax

Black on the outside, Gay on the inside.

Sound like anybody you know??


55 posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:14:24 AM by Buckeye McFrog

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I think I've found it. I have found the perfect freep thread.

317 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:35:55pm

New TBN Lawsuit Alleges Rape Cover-Up

Back in April we reported on a suit filed against TBN – the right-wing televangelism powerhouse based in Orange County, California – by Brittany Koper, a granddaughter of TBN founders Paul and Jan Crouch and a former senior executive at the organization. The suit alleged “multiple cover-ups of sexual and criminal scandals,” including a cover-up of a “bloody sexual assault.” A new suit, filed last week by Koper’s 19-year-old sister Carra Crouch, sheds signficant light on the allegation.

318 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:37:01pm

re: #314 Kragar

But all scientific theories are equally valid and deserve to be discussed without bias..

Oh wait, no they don't. Some are demonstrably stupid and should be tossed out on their incoherent butts.

Wait --I think my brain still might be working enough to reason this out. Not Theories --but hypothesis are equally valid and deserve to be discussed, but not necessarily tested--as we would hope that during the discussion it would be determined that some are flat out bat shit crazy.

Hypothesis that are worth of testing and whose positive results can be duplicated may become Theories --

Did I get that right?

OMG, I am so ready to put myself back into a Sci-Fi novel exile until after the election.

319 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:37:15pm

Somebody ought to tell Buzz Aldrin about the hazards posed by gay oreos.

320 iossarian  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:37:30pm

re: #316 SpaceJesus

I think I've found it. I have found the perfect freep thread.

I think you're onto something.

Yet another thing I have to tell my daughter she can’t have. She loves Oreos. No more, and I’m headed off to the grocery store. Guess I’ll have to look for an alternate.

Other things on the list of "things right-wing nutball's daughters can't have":

- fun
- independence
- a sense of self-worth

321 gwangung  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:38:17pm

re: #314 Kragar

But all scientific theories are equally valid and deserve to be discussed without bias..

Oh wait, no they don't. Some are demonstrably stupid and should be tossed out on their incoherent butts.

Well, guys, there's this thing called evidence that drives science....evidence that generates new questions and new research...

Got any?

322 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:38:20pm

The major problem with a non-fusion sun, by the way, is the sheer amount of fuel necessary to produce that level of energy.

323 iossarian  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:38:48pm
I think there’s a spiritual component. In the Bible after the flood the rainbow is given as a promise from God that he will never destroy the world with water (note he doesn’t say anthing about fire). I think it’s a way of taunting God. They know they are doing something that warrants destruction but because a promise was made they think they can get away with it.

Hahahahaha

The POWER OF THE RAINBOW protects me from THE WRATH of THE SKY GOD!!!

BWAGHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

324 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:39:01pm

OK, Pages authors -- embedding of Scribd documents now also works in LGF Pages. Just paste in the URL of the page where the document lives. For example, here's the page for the Texas platform: 2012 Platform Final.

If you put that address on its own line, it turns into the embedded document.

325 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:39:09pm

re: #322 Mostly sane, most of the time.

The major problem with a non-fusion sun, by the way, is the sheer amount of fuel necessary to produce that level of energy.

There is a mix of Energizer Bunnies and hamsters hidden in the center.

326 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:39:54pm

re: #322 Mostly sane, most of the time.

The major problem with a non-fusion sun, by the way, is the sheer amount of fuel necessary to produce that level of energy.

Its all done by transformation of Jesusium into the warm loving glow of the Sun, which is why we shouldn't be afraid of global warming. Its just the Sun telling us he loves us even more.

327 gwangung  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:39:56pm

re: #318 ggt

Wait --I think my brain still might be working enough to reason this out. Not Theories --but hypothesis are equally valid and deserve to be discussed, but not necessarily tested--as we would hope that during the discussion it would be determined that some are flat out bat shit crazy.

Hypothesis that are worth of testing and whose positive results can be duplicated may become Theories --

Did I get that right?

OMG, I am so ready to put myself back into a Sci-Fi novel exile until after the election.

And theories are over-arching explanatory principles that hypotheses fit into and that explain the data. Holes in the theory generates new data that either extend the theory, modify it or find some new principle.

Ugh. Channeling grad school. Not recommended.

328 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:40:21pm

re: #317 Kragar

New TBN Lawsuit Alleges Rape Cover-Up

Praise the Lord! We take Visa, Mastercard, American Express and probably Paypal!

Use Tootie!

329 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:42:53pm

can fusion be derived from freep's never-ending obsession with gay sex?

330 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:43:20pm

re: #328 ggt

Praise the Lord! We take Visa, Mastercard, American Express and probably Paypal!

Use Tootie!

We go to the gold standard and destroy the economy and I'm pretty sure they'll be taking eggs and chickens as donations soon enough.

331 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:43:45pm

re: #330 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

We go to the gold standard and destroy the economy and I'm pretty sure they'll be taking eggs and chickens as donations soon enough.

Texas will be selling their souls for water.

332 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:43:59pm

re: #322 Mostly sane, most of the time.

The major problem with a non-fusion sun, by the way, is the sheer amount of fuel necessary to produce that level of energy.

re: #325 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

There is a mix of Energizer Bunnies and hamsters hidden in the center.

Jesus set the Holy Ghost on fire as a youthful prank.

333 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:44:23pm

re: #300 Gus

And of course. The usual psychos: Nuclear bombs are a Jewish hoax like everything is

The Juice are behind the fake atom bombs!!11ty

A comment,

Far too complicated!

So at the same time that the small countries are lying about building nuclear weapons and the bigger countries that know they are lying then go out to convince the world that they are building nuclear weapons and but will sort it out, then the small countries get bombed and bombarded yet through out all this stuff they all manage to keep a seal of silence that nobody has nuclear weapons and dont tell anyone that the reason they are being sanctioned and bombed is simply because the bigger countries are not wanting them to join in on the lie???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

334 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:44:26pm

re: #329 SpaceJesus

can fusion be derived from freep's never-ending obsession with gay sex?

Angels with very strong butt cheeks crushing the hydrogen nuclei close enough together to make helium.

335 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:44:36pm

re: #331 ggt

THE SUN IS GOLD

336 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:45:04pm

Republican Congressional Candidate Promises To Impeach Obama Over New Immigration Policy

QUIST: When Richard Nixon was threatened with impeachment, one of the articles of impeachment was violating the Constitution of the United States. So is this an impeachable offense? Yes. Whenever the Constitution is violated, it is an impeachable offense. [...]

QUESTIONER: Would that be something you would propose amongst your fellows there?

QUIST: I would not only propose it, I would argue it to the utmost of my ability and I would carry it like a banner to the American public.

337 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:45:11pm
It is Marxist ideology seeped in Pavlovian psychology (Pavlov and Lenin were close)-—it is well planned, orchestrated to elicit the “proper” emotions when they hear the word “homosexual”. It is so “good” and “cute” when it really is all about excrement.

71 posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:18:21 PM by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)

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shit. they have it figured out. jig is up.

338 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:45:20pm

re: #335 Be Zorch, Daddio

THE SUN IS GOLD

Giordano Bruno? ...is that you?

339 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:45:52pm
340 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:45:57pm

re: #335 Be Zorch, Daddio

THE SUN IS GOLD

Does it come with a Morricone score?

341 iossarian  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:46:02pm

re: #336 Kragar

Republican Congressional Candidate Promises To Impeach Obama Over New Immigration Policy

Republican Congressional Candidate Promises To Impeach Obama For Some Reason As Yet Unspecified

342 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:46:02pm

re: #333 Varek Raith

A comment,

What fabulous nutters!
HAHAHAHA.

343 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:46:17pm

re: #332 The Ghost of a Flea

re: #325 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Jesus set the Holy Ghost on fire as a youthful prank.

They've got a cat with a slice of buttered bread tied to its back.

344 iossarian  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:46:36pm

re: #337 SpaceJesus

shit. they have it figured out. jig is up.

I think someone had a bit of a tough time with toilet training.

345 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:47:17pm

re: #331 ggt

Texas will be selling their souls for water.

Well shit, the Texas Republicans won't have anything to bargain with if thats the case.

346 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:47:38pm

When a kooky conspiracy theorist says you've gone too far....

347 iossarian  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:48:02pm

It's kind of sad that the Republicans go balls out to trash the economy and fuck up the lives of people outside the chosen white male demographic, but to be fair to them they give you a lot of belly laughs along the way.

348 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:48:13pm

re: #345 Kragar

Well shit, the Texas Republicans won't have anything to bargain with if thats the case.

They might *ahem* have to enter into negotiations with Mexico to trade fresh water for something . . . . .

349 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:48:32pm

re: #337 SpaceJesus

shit. they have it figured out. jig is up.

What a dipshit:

Pavlov was highly regarded by the Soviet government, and he was able to continue his research until he reached a considerable age. He was praised by Lenin.[8] However, despite the praise from the Soviet Union government, the money that poured out to support his laboratory and the honours he was given, Pavlov made no attempts to conceal the disapproval and contempt in which he held Soviet Communism.

350 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:48:39pm

re: #347 iossarian

It's kind of sad that the Republicans go balls out to trash the economy and fuck up the lives of people outside the chosen white male demographic, but to be fair to them they give you a lot of belly laughs along the way.

tjhis shit will cease to be funny once they start implementing it on a broad scale...

351 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:48:48pm

re: #348 ggt

They might *ahem* have to enter into negotiations with Mexico to trade fresh water for something . . .

How about guns?
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352 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:49:07pm

re: #348 ggt

They might *ahem* have to enter into negotiations with Mexico to trade fresh water for something . . .

I'd demand the Alamo.

353 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:49:27pm

re: #352 Kragar

I'd demand the Alamo.

Viva Max!

354 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:49:40pm

Free Republic. Where straight old dudes get to hang out and talk about gay sex all day long every day of the week.

355 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:50:29pm

re: #320 iossarian

Yet another thing I have to tell my daughter she can’t have. She loves Oreos. No more, and I’m headed off to the grocery store. Guess I’ll have to look for an alternate.

Nutter Butters?

356 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:50:58pm

Texas GOP 2012: Reaching For Peak Wingnut

357 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:51:04pm

Way OT:
From yesterday's t-storms in the NYC metro area. Someone on SI posted this video showing a lightning strike just yards from their location.

358 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:52:23pm

re: #357 lawhawk

Way OT:
From yesterday's t-storms in the NYC metro area. Someone on SI posted this video showing a lightning strike just yards from their location.

[Embedded content]

That'll wake ya up!

359 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:53:28pm

Rand Paul sabotages years of work by attempting to add life begins at conception amendment to flood insurance bill

After years of delay, senators recently came to an agreement over the flood bill and were set to vote on it this week.

But now, Paul is threatening to hold up its final passage by adding an amendment defining when life begins. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) expressed his displeasure with that move this morning, saying he would not bring the bill up for a vote if the amendment is added:

This is ridiculous, that somebody says I’m not going to let this bill goes forward unless I have a vote on when life begins. I am not going to do that, and I think I speak for the majority of senators. Now, if the Republicans won’t stand up to the person who is going to do that, I’m not going to. I have tried my best to deal with these issues that have nothing to do with a piece of legislation.

361 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:54:48pm

re: #357 lawhawk

Way OT:
From yesterday's t-storms in the NYC metro area. Someone on SI posted this video showing a lightning strike just yards from their location.

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I am so glad you didn't post that on a morning thread!

362 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:54:58pm

re: #360 gwangung

What an asshole.

At least assholes contribute more to society.

//

363 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:55:58pm

I iz a libertaryan and I voted for teh Rand Paul becauz I beleev in liburty.

//

364 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:56:13pm

re: #359 Kragar

Rand Paul sabotages years of work by attempting to add life begins at conception amendment to flood insurance bill

Doesn't this violate the Texas GOP platform? Adding non germane stuff to bills? I'm sure the Texas GOP will let Paul know. /

365 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:56:18pm

re: #357 lawhawk

Way OT:
From yesterday's t-storms in the NYC metro area. Someone on SI posted this video showing a lightning strike just yards from their location.

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I saw a bolt hit my neighbor's deck last year. I could feel the energy. It was odd to say the least.

366 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:57:13pm

re: #359 Kragar

“Abortion is advocated only by persons who have themselves been born.”

- BOOM! REAGAN //

367 iossarian  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:57:19pm

re: #355 wrenchwench

Nutter Butters?

Haha genius.

368 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:57:29pm

re: #324 Charles Johnson

OK, Pages authors -- embedding of Scribd documents now also works in LGF Pages. Just paste in the URL of the page where the document lives. For example, here's the page for the Texas platform: 2012 Platform Final.

If you put that address on its own line, it turns into the embedded document.

Do we have to read the whole document before posting it?

never enough time

always a catch

pretty cool anyway

369 gwangung  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:58:12pm

re: #362 Gus

Point taken,

370 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 12:59:45pm

In Alabama Prisons, The Less Sheriffs Spend On Food For Inmates, The More They Earn

It took almost three quarters of a century, but one Sheriff in Alabama is finally speaking out against a 1939 law that allows for the state’s 67 sheriffs to keep leftover money the state provides to each municipality for feeding inmates in local prisons.

Sheriff Mike Rainey reportedly received $295,294 from the local, state and federal governments to spend on food for the county’s inmate population. But thanks to the old law, Rainey is entitled to pocket any money left over after he fulfills his responsibility of feeding his inmates.

It’s not hard to imagine how such a system could lead to massive corruption. In 2009, former Morgan County Sheriff Greg Bartlett was himself put behind bars after he admitted to keeping more than $200,000 from the prison’s food budget while the inmates he oversaw were provided with inadequate food.

Remarkably, Bartlett may not have actually broken any laws, a point the Alabama Sheriffs Association made to defend Bartlett during his trial.

371 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:00:06pm

re: #365 Varek Raith

Lightning isn't energy. It's just God throwing lawn darts. Really.

372 iossarian  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:00:45pm

Outta here. Have a good'un, everyone.

373 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:00:49pm

re: #31 Lidane

You know, natural man and woman. Unlike those scary transgender folks who get sex reassignment surgery. We can't have them thinking they're normal or anything.

Yep. They can't stand it when I go anywhere with my wife and kid.

374 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:00:49pm

re: #359 Kragar

live free!

375 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:01:08pm

I'd join the Texas-bashing, we know Alabama's only one State Supreme Court Chief Justice away from Heaven on Earth.

[Link: morallaw.org...]

376 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:02:56pm

Interesting by comparison and contrast:
GOP Platform 1956 A few select planks:

America does not prosper unless all Americans prosper.

We shall continue vigorously to support the United Nations.

Consistent with the Republican Administration's accomplishment in stemming the inflation —which under five Democrat Administrations had cut the value of the dollar in half, and so had robbed the wage earner and millions of thrifty citizens who had savings, pensions and insurance—we endorse the present policy of freedom for the Federal Reserve System to combat both inflation and deflation by wise fiscal policy.

I now believe in time travel. The GOP is moving backwards; in 1956 it was far more progressive than it is today.

377 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:04:30pm

re: #371 Be Zorch, Daddio

Lightning isn't energy. It's just God throwing lawn darts. Really.

I thought it was when he rubbed an angel and stuck it to the roof of the Celestial Dome.

378 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:04:50pm

Typical of the laser like focus the Republican party has on creating jobs and strengthening the economy...

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379 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:05:41pm

re: #376 Ascher

Interesting by comparison and contrast:
GOP Platform 1956 A few select planks:

I now believe in time travel. The GOP is moving backwards; in 1956 it was far more progressive than it is today.

Did it have a goatee in that universe?

380 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:08:25pm

re: #377 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I thought it was when he rubbed an angel and stuck it to the roof of the Celestial Dome.

What about when an Angel get's it's wings?

381 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:09:42pm

re: #376 Ascher

Interesting by comparison and contrast:
GOP Platform 1956 A few select planks:

I now believe in time travel. The GOP is moving backwards; in 1956 it was far more progressive than it is today.

And there in lies the tragedy of the Republican Party. Nixon had to win at all costs in 68 though

382 engineer cat  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:13:12pm

human life, created in the image of God

if humans are created in the image of god, how come they don't have fur and puddy whiskers?

383 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:13:21pm

re: #381 HappyWarrior

And there in lies the tragedy of the Republican Party. Nixon had to win at all costs in 68 though

The tragedy came in 2008 when the rabid bigots started taking over the party and the GOP establishment did not have the cojones to put a lid on it.

Since they gained seats in 2010, they were not able to dampen the fervor either and now it has assumed a life of its own.

384 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:13:40pm

re: #376 Ascher

Interesting by comparison and contrast:
GOP Platform 1956 A few select planks:

I now believe in time travel. The GOP is moving backwards; in 1956 it was far more progressive than it is today.

That was back before Nixon first extended a hand to the bitter Southerners post-CRA, then Reagan followed up by extending a hand to the Religious Right.

385 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:14:07pm

re: #382 engineer cat

human life, created in the image of God

if humans are created in the image of god, how come they don't have fur and puddy whiskers?

And absolute Jedi mind control?

386 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:14:16pm

re: #382 engineer cat

human life, created in the image of God

if humans are created in the image of god, how come they don't have fur and puddy whiskers?

You make an excellent point!

387 engineer cat  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:14:21pm

re: #1 Kragar

Voter Rights Act – We urge that the Voter Rights Act of 1965 codified and updated in 1973 be repealed and not reauthorized.

unfuckingbelievable

388 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:14:57pm

I'm a Canon guy, but I want this guy's job (and camera gear bag). Of course, I'd have to be in NASA and spend most of my time on the ISS (wait, that's a downside?)

389 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:15:47pm

re: #387 engineer cat

Actually, it's totally believable. This is the modern GOP, which is far less progressive and far more socially and economically conservative than the GOP from decades ago.

390 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:16:35pm

re: #387 engineer cat

unfuckingbelievable

This is a party dedicated to undoing every cultural advancement of the past century. It's totally believable.

391 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:17:21pm

re: #166 Varek Raith

Way to go Syria!

Turkey is not a country I would care to fuck with. I could not understand for the life of me why some hotheads in Israel were blogging about "Bring it on!" a couple of years ago after the flotilla incident. Israel could not even remotely hope to deal with the Turkish Navy, and the Turkish Air Force is every bit as good as Israel's.

Turkey is not an impovershed Arab nation with cast off 2nd rate Warsaw Pact weapons. They are a NATO member with a (very) large and well trained army and they have a first rate Navy and Air Force. Syria is biting off waaaay the fuck more then they can chew if they want to play with the Turks. Ask the Brits how well Gallipoli went for them.

392 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:17:21pm

re: #384 Targetpractice

That was back before Nixon first extended a hand to the bitter Southerners post-CRA, then Reagan followed up by extending a hand to the Religious Right.

Yep. Crazy that in a decade's time they go from being the party of Lincoln to the party of Thurmond.

394 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:17:49pm

re: #389 lawhawk

Actually, it's totally believable. This is the modern GOP, which is far less progressive and far more socially and economically conservative than the GOP from decades ago.

They've morphed into the Democratic Party of the same time period.

Some weird Feline Quantum juxtaposition of the Nixon/LBJ Paradox. Far too intricate for my feeble brain.

395 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:19:00pm

re: #376 Ascher

Maybe, but it's clear from reading it that the rot had begun. From the very first sentence:

America's trust is in the merciful providence of God, in whose image every man is created ... the source of every man's dignity and freedom. In this trust our Republic was founded. We give devoted homage to the Founding Fathers. They not only proclaimed that the freedom and rights of men came from the Creator and not from the State, but they provided safeguards to those freedoms.

Sound familiar? It shows up in the header of the Texas platform, albeit devolved:

The Republican Party of Texas unequivocally defends that dream. We strive to preserve the freedom given to us by God, implemented by our Founding Fathers, and embodied in the Constitution.

but it's shocking now to even hear Republicans pay lip service to:

...we are proud of and shall continue our far-reaching and sound advances in matters of basic human needs—expansion of social security—broadened coverage in unemployment insurance —improved housing—and better health protection for all our people.

It should be noted however, that the Democratic Platform that year has NOT ONE mention of God.

We oppose, as contrary to American principles, the practice of any government which discriminates against American citizens on grounds of race or religion. We will not countenance any arrangement or treaty with any government which by its terms or in its practical application would sanction such practices.

396 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:19:24pm

Couple of other points I just noticed in there:

Homosexuality ― We affirm that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society and contributes to the breakdown of the family unit. Homosexual behavior is contrary to the fundamental, unchanging truths that have been ordained by God, recognized by our country’s founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable “alternative” lifestyle, in public policy, nor should “family” be redefined to include homosexual “couples.” We believe there should be no granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin.

Additionally, we oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction or
belief in traditional values.

Militia versus Paid Army – We recognize that the original meaning of the word “militia” in the Constitution refers to an armed citizenry, not the formal paid professional military.

Interestingly, although there are many references to God and Christianity, I don't see any Shariah law fear language in there.

397 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:19:32pm

re: #393 Kragar

Top Republican Senator Suggests Impeaching Obama Over Immigration Policies

Charlie Pierce noted awhile back that, much like Clinton, the GOP has pretty much made it clear that, if Obama gets reelected, he will be impeached. That the GOP will decide that, if years of demonizing him and accusing him of every evil under the sun failed to turn the electorate against him, they'll just try to force the issue.

398 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:20:55pm

re: #397 Targetpractice

Charlie Pierce noted awhile back that, much like Clinton, the GOP has pretty much made it clear that, if Obama gets reelected, he will be impeached. That the GOP will decide that, if years of demonizing him and accusing him of every evil under the sun failed to turn the electorate against him, they'll just try to force the issue.

WHAT immigration policies --enforcing the law? doing what Bush II wanted to do?

I totally don't get this outrage.

399 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:22:13pm

re: #387 engineer cat

unfuckingbelievable

It's sort of like "Extremer Voter ID" where instead of (somewhat) covertly trying to keep minorities from voting, you instead overtly outright ban them from doing so.

Appalling.

400 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:22:30pm

re: #398 ggt

WHAT immigration policies --enforcing the law? doing what Bush II wanted to do?

I totally don't get this outrage.

The outrage is over a black guy living in what they think is their exclusive property.

401 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:23:01pm

re: #400 celticdragon

The outrage is over a black guy living in what they think is their exclusive property.

You said it nicer than I would have.

402 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:23:09pm
403 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:23:12pm

We should return to the original meaning of "militia" in the Constitution, namely an armed citizenry. And we should also revert to the weaponry used in 1787, namely muzzle-loading flintlocks...

404 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:23:33pm

re: #398 ggt

WHAT immigration policies --enforcing the law? doing what Bush II wanted to do?

I totally don't get this outrage.

The "outrage" is that Obama took an action without first asking the GOP "Mother, May I?"

405 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:23:43pm

re: #395 Be Zorch, Daddio

I knowingly cherry-picked.... Clearly, the GOP was still the GOP; the point is that it has managed to discard any pretense of being grounded in reality. Now, platforms are a menu of extreme positions from Analphabetism to Xenophobia

406 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:23:45pm

re: #400 celticdragon

The outrage is over a black guy living in what they think is their exclusive property.

Oh, because they think he, himself, is an illegal immigrant -----

gotz it!

407 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:24:27pm

What's that brown goop I see on the fan?

408 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:24:47pm

The book I though I would have to wait 5 weeks for is actually coming out this week! HUZZAH!!!

409 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:25:42pm

re: #408 Kragar

The book I though I would have to wait 5 weeks for is actually coming out this week! HUZZAH!!!

Title?

410 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:25:46pm

re: #403 Expand Your Ground

We should return to the original meaning of "militia" in the Constitution, namely an armed citizenry. And we should also revert to the weaponry used in 1787, namely muzzle-loading flintlocks...

In that case, I already have one. A lovely reproduction King's 2nd Land Pattern Brown Bess. The bayonet is absolutely wicked.

411 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:26:14pm

re: #408 Kragar

The book I though I would have to wait 5 weeks for is actually coming out this week! HUZZAH!!!

Hasn't the Necronomicon been out for awhile?

//

412 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:26:17pm

re: #409 Ascher

Title?

It's called "I though I".

//

413 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:26:57pm

re: #403 Expand Your Ground

We should return to the original meaning of "militia" in the Constitution, namely an armed citizenry. And we should also revert to the weaponry used in 1787, namely muzzle-loading flintlocks...

And all militia must march in straight lines and fire in volleys.

414 Gus  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:27:01pm

Whew. 100 already. See, I'd come up with a platform like this too if this weather keeps up.

415 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:27:04pm

this is going over my head sorry :(

416 makeitstop  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:27:18pm

re: #357 lawhawk

Way OT:
From yesterday's t-storms in the NYC metro area. Someone on SI posted this video showing a lightning strike just yards from their location.

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That happened here on Friday - I was walking outside the house and lightning was so close, I heard the crackle before the thunder. I swore I was hit.

417 shutdown  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:27:55pm

re: #414 Gus

Whew. 100 already. See, I'd come up with a platform like this too if this weather keeps up.

Can't blame the sun. Fusion is a lie.

418 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:28:09pm

re: #409 Ascher

Title?

The new edition of Warhammer 40k rules. I've been working on processing last months reports the last couple weeks, so my brain was wire to thinking it was May. I just realized June 30th is this weekend and not a month away.

419 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:28:41pm

re: #416 makeitstop

That happened here on Friday - I was walking outside the house and lightning was so close, I heard the crackle before the thunder. I swore I was hit.

When things like that happen, my husband grabs his heart with his left hand and raises his right hand to heaven and says "Elizabeth, I'm coming!"

Anyone here old enough to remember what that is from?

420 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:28:44pm

re: #417 Ascher

Can't blame the sun. Fusion is a lie.

Fusion Confusion?

421 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:29:07pm

re: #419 ggt

When things like that happen, my husband grabs his heart with his left hand and raises his right hand to heaven and says "Elizabeth, I'm coming!"

Anyone here old enough to remember what that is from?

Sanford and Son.

422 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:29:23pm

re: #415 Ascher

this is going over my head sorry :(

The Sun? Don't worry, it's over everyone's head.

423 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:29:59pm

re: #420 Kragar

Fusion Confusion?

Kung Fu-sion?

424 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:30:31pm

re: #411 Targetpractice

Hasn't the Necronomicon been out for awhile?

//

Oh, I've got one already.

425 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:30:37pm

Humidex is now at 38C (100.4F) here. Note: That's above the 50th parallel.

You know, the Great White North?

We have storm warnings and tornado advisories coming out the wazoo.

426 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:31:23pm

re: #419 ggt

When things like that happen, my husband grabs his heart with his left hand and raises his right hand to heaven and says "Elizabeth, I'm coming!"

Anyone here old enough to remember what that is from?

Fred Sanford, AKA Red Foxx.

427 dragonath  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:31:26pm

re: #405 Ascher

Yeah, I guess I wasn't being fair either, since American Christianity wasn't off the rails like it is today. But playing with God in public life is dangerous. What would a relative moderate like Muhammid Ali Jinnah see if he saw Pakistan today?

428 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:31:32pm

So, my house is close to a popular intersection. The sirens go buy a lot.

Now that my son is driving a lot and working . . . .

I need something --I can't handle the worry.

429 darthstar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:31:37pm

It's not easy to out-crazy Arizona, but Texas might just have done it.

430 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:32:04pm

re: #413 Targetpractice

And all militia must march in straight lines and fire in volleys.

Loading and firing in ranks is a pain in the ass.

431 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:32:32pm
America's trust is in the merciful providence of God

Then why all the money for bombs and guns, here and abroad?

I guess we're hedging our bets a bit with the whole God and providence thing.

432 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:32:55pm

re: #430 celticdragon

Loading and firing in ranks is a pain in the ass.

It beats the sword and the shield set-up the Roman's had.

433 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:33:06pm

Got here late. All I can say is, "Holy shit! That is weapon's grade derp!"

434 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:33:47pm

re: #412 Gus

It's called "I though I".

//

The Reader's Digest version is just called "II". And it's the sequel at the same time! And a floor wax!

435 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:34:06pm

re: #429 darthstar

It's not easy to out-crazy Arizona, but Texas might just have done it.

Actually, I think you got that backwards. Texas cornered the market on crazy long ago --Arizona and recently come into the race and is out-pacing Texas at an alarming rate.

436 renata39.5  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:35:31pm

After reading the excerpts, I know there's no way I could read the rest of that pile of goosery without extreme anger. The education points are extreme even for the GOP (which is likely why Texas is one of only 5 states that hasn't yet adopted the Common Core Curriculum Standard which focus on things like thinking and clearly writing what you think).

It's all fine though--in a few years, we can just quarantine Texas and let them suffer their own fate due to eating raw dairy and not being vaccinated while lacking the critical thinking skills to figure out why everybody's sick or how to pay for things on a gold-standard economy. It'll make a great reality show. We should probably offer relocation to sane citizens, so they don't have to suffer the results of the insanity of the GOP.

437 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:35:34pm

re: #430 celticdragon

Loading and firing in ranks is a pain in the ass.

Is rifling considered some sort of liberal/hippy thing, or is it allowed?

438 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:36:32pm

re: #437 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Is rifling considered some sort of liberal/hippy thing, or is it allowed?

depends on whether or not it is fingerprinted . . .

439 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:39:06pm

re: #413 Targetpractice

And all militia must march in straight lines and fire in volleys.

they can hide behind rocks and stuff, as long as they keep their powder dry...

440 Kragar  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:39:16pm

re: #437 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Is rifling considered some sort of liberal/hippy thing, or is it allowed?

Critical thinking is required to calculate the proper angle of the rifling for the barrel length, so I'm sorry, but you're going to have to use a smoothbore.

441 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:43:30pm

re: #396 dragonfire1981

Couple of other points I just noticed in there:

[snip]

Militia versus Paid Army – We recognize that the original meaning of the word “militia” in the Constitution refers to an armed citizenry, not the formal paid professional military.

Interestingly, although there are many references to God and Christianity, I don't see any Shariah law fear language in there.

But they suspiciously left off the "Well regulated" part of that statement from the constitution. So I guess they believe in the regulation of the armed citizenry as stated in the Constitution or no?

442 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:48:24pm

re: #419 ggt

When things like that happen, my husband grabs his heart with his left hand and raises his right hand to heaven and says "Elizabeth, I'm coming!"

Anyone here old enough to remember what that is from?

Fred Sanford line. Sanford and Son

443 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:48:29pm

re: #437 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Is rifling considered some sort of liberal/hippy thing, or is it allowed?

Rifles take much, much longer to load, so riflemen tended to hang out on the flanks and snipe at artillerymen, officers and drummer boys (sounds horrific, but killing the drummer boy makes it far harder to relay orders and the Brits at the time had all personal intiative drilled out of them. No officer and no drummer boy means they have no clue what to do)

One Brit unit at King's Mountain had breech loading Ferguson Rifles which were at least 70 years ahead of their time. They were easy to load, accurate and also mounted a bayonet. Every surviving Ferguson Rifle still around in the US at this point can be traced to an actual Confederate soldier, meaning that captured Fergusons taken from dead British soldiers in the Revolution were passed down in families and used at the outbreak of the Civil War.

444 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 1:52:00pm
Militia versus Paid Army – We recognize that the original meaning of the word “militia” in the Constitution refers to an armed citizenry, not the formal paid professional military.

Right. Because lightly armed, untrained, loosely organized part time citizen soldiers will beat heavily armed, well trained, properly organized, full time professional soldiers without breaking a sweat.

The U.S. tried that at the beginning of The Revolution and quickly learned they needed a professional army.

445 Achilles Tang  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 2:04:03pm
American Atheists, an atheist civil rights group dedicated to atheists’ civil rights and the separation of religion and government, announced today that the “Stand Up for Religious Freedom” rallies to occur nationwide on June 8 are a misnomer and blatantly ignore the intent of the First Amendment. The coordinators and coalition of groups supporting the rallies are equally supporting theocracy and religious oppression: the opposite of what they are claiming to support.

Blair Scott, Communications Director, stated, “Religious freedom is guaranteed to the individual: not a collection of individuals or an organization. A church does not have religious freedom: the individual congregants do. A collection of religious persons do not have religious freedom: the individuals in that collection do. You cannot amass your individual freedoms to trump the freedoms of others.”

The rallies are being put together by a coalition of well-known groups who continually pursue ways to violate the separation of church and state, including the main coordinating group, the Pro-Life Action League.

Dave Silverman, President of American Atheists, said, “This demonstration is a protest against religious equality. The protestors are demanding equal rights to support their church’s position, essentially subjugating America’s secular law under their religious dogma. How can we have equality if the government changes its laws to suit one religion?”

Religious freedom applied to this situation means that women and their partners can decide whether to use birth control pills or any other legal contraceptive they and their doctors see fit. It does not mean that a religious-based business can deny these options.

AJ Johnson, Development Director, observed, “The rallies are not only a misnomer, but an insult to the secular principles embedded in our Constitution. These groups are not promoting freedom; they are using specific religious beliefs to restrict women’s rights and access to healthcare. This is an attempt to enforce religious oppression by these groups and should not affect our public policy.”

446 labman57  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 6:17:33pm

Below is a list of the GOP's 2012 talking points, as elucidated by various conservative politicians and pundits:

- Corporations are people.
- Voting is a privilege, not a right
- Federal workplace standards and business regulations are unAmerican.
- Women who use birth control are sluts.
- A chicken in every pot, and a spy-cam in every uterus.
- College students are snobs.
- Students who must obtain federal loans are unworthy of a college education.
- Public education is part of a left wing brainwashing conspiracy.
- Gay Americans are an abomination.
- Poor people deserve to be poor.
- Union workers are socialist thugs.
- The unemployed are lazy parasites.
- Latinos are illegal until proven otherwise.
- Naturalized citizens with heavy accents are not true Americans.
- The Bible trumps the Constitution.
- America is a Christian nation.
- Secularism equals Satanism.
- Global warming is a hoax.
- Environmentalism is unpatriotic and an attack on the will of God.
- The U.S. auto industry should go bankrupt.
- Cutting taxes for the ultra-wealthy and subsidizing corporations is patriotic.
- Cutting taxes for the middle class and providing funding for Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and the Food Stamp program is unpatriotic.
- If you cannot afford to pay for your family's health insurance coverage or preventative health care, then all of you are simply taking up oxygen and deserve to die anyway.
- All progressives are communists.
- Liberal Democrats hate America.
- The U.S. President is a Muslim socialist agent from Kenya.

447 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jun 26, 2012 8:56:57pm

Texas GOP platform recipe
Serves: millions of idiots
Prep time: A long weekend of committee meetings

Ingredients
The Book of Genesis
The Book of Leviticus
The Letters of Paul (except II Corinthians

The Bible (except all the liberal parts)
John Birch Society mission statement
Constitution of the Confederate States of America
Protocols of the Elders of Zion
Alex Jones' conspiracy theories
Glenn Beck's conspiracy theories
1/4 cup pure virgin Oil of Unsubstantiation™
Seasonings: KKK salt, Holy Inquisition flakes, dried flowers of ignorance

Preparation
In a large bowl, toss ingredients until thoroughly anointed with Oil of Unsubstantiation™. Sprinkle with KKK salt, Holy Inquisition flakes and dried flowers of ignorance to taste. Serve in individual bowls, but only to those who have long form American* birth certificates.

* Except Hawai'i -- it's not really America.


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